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City Council, meeting 44, July 30, 2018 - Part 2 of 2
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A
B
We
have
spent
time
in
this
council
meeting.
We
have
recessed
it
a
number
of
times
in
order
to
respond
to
a
tragedy
and
unspeakable
tragedy.
In
the
City
of
Toronto,
two
people
killed
and
doesn´t
injured.
On
the
Danforth
we
have
recessed
in
show
our
respects.
We
have
recessed
to
go
to
a
vigil.
We
have
recessed
to
go
to
funerals
and
we
recessed
to
go
to
the
Danforth
to
show
our
support.
This
is
not
a
council
that
is
somehow
wasting
its
time.
B
Speaker
and
I'm
deeply
offended
and
I
believe
every
member
of
this
council
shall
be
deeply
offended.
That
was
not
at
Queen's
Park
today
saying
the
same
thing
and
I
have
to
speak
out
about
it
and
I'm
not
asking
for
an
apology
from
them,
but
I
am
saying
that
council
is
offended
and
I
cannot
tell
you
the
depths
of
my
of
my
umbrage
on
this
matter.
Speaker.
Thank
you.
B
C
D
A
D
Sauce
in
the
cow,
some
people
might
want
to
see
that,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
appetite
for
for
this,
including
my
own
constituents
who
want
me
to
do
this
and
and
I
asked
myself
the
question
knowing
that
I
can
go
into
an
election
and
losing
I'm
still
doing
it.
I'm
still
up
here,
saying
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
for
the
taxpayers:
I'm
not
being
selfish
about
it.
D
I'm
saying
we
have
to
do
this
and
then
I
asked
myself
the
question
about
others
that
clearly
might
be
losing
the
job
and
the
logic
and
the
reasoning
for
the
fight
that's
happening
not
only
in
this
chamber,
but
you're
posing,
but
outside
this
chamber
too.
I
know
exactly
what's
going
on
with
some
people
and
then
I
look
at
some
of
the
the
the
decisions
that
we've
made.
One
of
them
was
cutting
the
police
force,
cutting
jobs
who
supported
those
cuts,
the
same
people
that
stand
up
here
and
say
that
we
shouldn't
be
cut
in
half.
D
Why
is
it
okay
for
you
to
stand
in
your
place
and
cut
the
police
service
in
half
if
you
could,
but
when
it
comes
to
your
own
jobs,
you
don't
want
to
do
that.
I
can
give
you
hundreds
of
examples
of
manufacturers
that
have
lost
much
many
of
their
their
product,
their
their
productivity
and
their
work
because
of
decisions
that
were
made
here
in
the
council
chamber.
D
Why
is
it
that
we
stand
up
and
not
have
a
problem
with
other
people's
job
and
cutting
them,
but
when
it
comes
to
our
own,
we
have
some
difficulty
with
it,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
what
this
is
about.
You
can
use
the
argument
of
democracy.
You
can
use
the
argument
that
it's
the
best
thing
for
communities
you
can
do
all
of
that,
but
you
know
what
gets
lost
in
the
taxpayers,
mind
and
the
people
who
are
watching
and
and
and
talking
about
this
in
the
living
room.
D
It's
that
they
can't
figure
out
why
we
can
make
it
work
at
a
federal
level
with
25
we
can
make
it
work
at
a
provincial
level
with
five
and
why
we
need
more
than
more
than
double
at
a
municipal
level.
Yes,
yes,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
47
is
what
we
we
were
looking
at.
Doing
and
I've
got
to
tell
you
something.
I've
got
to
say
this
as
clear
as
I.
D
Mel
last
man
who
I
sat
beside
here,
along
with
all
the
other
mayor's,
had
the
best
gut
instinct
of
anybody
that
I'm
that
I've
known,
and
he
could
come
in
here
and
say
no
we're
not
doing
this
today,
because
I
don't
think
the
public
wants
us
to
do
that
and
he
would
fight
tooth
and
nail
based
on
his
on
his
gut
feeling.
The
premiere
of
this
province
has
that
same
gut
instinct,
whether
you
want
to
believe
it
or
not.
Rob
Ford
had
that
same
gut
instinct.
He
had
it
as
well.
D
It's
not
something
you're
taught
it's
something.
You're
born
with
and
I
can
tell
you
this.
It
is
I
can
tell
you
this.
This
premiers
got
that
knock
and
for
those
of
you
that
don't
want
to
don't
like
them
in
one
of
rally
yourselves
with
a
couple
hundred
people,
by
the
way
that
you
were
able
to
able
to
muster
up
thanks
to
the
Union
on
Friday,
there
were
only
a
couple
hundred
people,
the.
B
E
Madam
Speaker,
on
Friday
I,
asked
the
city
solicitor
a
series
of
questions
about
provincial
powers
and
the
timing
of
a
possible
referendum
from
her
response.
It's
clear,
the
provinces
decision
is
a
done
deal
for
those
who
believe
in
a
smaller
or
larger
council.
Let's
be
honest,
the
process
is
flawed
and
the
timing
was
extremely
bad,
but
there
really
is
nothing.
The
city
can
do
to
reverse
any
decision
made
by
the
province.
We
need
to
move
on.
My
life's
focus
has
been
public
service,
so
I'm
going
to
work
on
the
daily
issues
of
war.
E
28,
the
people
in
the
communities
of
Regent,
Park,
mas,
Park,
st.
James,
town
and
cabbage
town
have
some
incredible
challenges
of
safety,
poverty,
housing
and
a
need
for
expanded
services.
Our
youth
need
opportunities
to
succeed
and
we
must
get
rid
of
guns
from
our
streets.
When
you
appointed
me
as
councillor,
you
honored
me,
and
my
community
I
was
one
of
the
first
councillors
born
and
raised
in
Regent
Park
to
serve
on
council
as
one
of
13
kids
with
a
father
with
muscular
dystrophy
I
grew
up
knowing
poverty
I.
E
Wasn't
a
professional
politician
looking
for
a
job.
Just
a
public
servant
looking
to
do
more
for
people
who
grew
up
in
my
neighbourhood
and
I
hope
that
in
the
coming
election,
others,
like
myself,
will
step
out
from
their
neighborhoods
to
bring
their
unique
stories
to
this
chamber,
and
this
will
truly
represent
the
many
communities
that
make
up
our
great
city.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
Well,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker,
and
you
know
I
I'm
gonna,
be
very
brief
with
this
I
think
what
I
think
what
we
have
to
discuss
here
and
I
think
it's
very
along
the
same
lines
as
councillor
mammal
Amy
mentioned.
Is
that
I
think
time
and
time
again
we
have
heard
not.
This
is
going
to
happen
so
I'm
not
going
to
rail
on
a
politics
of
this.
We
can
against
it.
Here
we
can
debate,
debate,
debate,
2544
or
even
a
hundred
I.
Don't
think
that
is
what
is
in
front
of
us.
F
F
Take
your
eyes
are
very
welcome
change
that
is
needed
here,
but
what
we
need
to
be
focused
on
as
a
council
is
the
path
forward
on
how
do
we
set
the
stage
for
our
city,
our
city,
clerk's
or
chief
electoral
officer,
to
carry
out
this
election
because
we
know
it
is
coming
and
in
my
questions
to
city
staff
on
Friday
evening,
there
is
no
doubt
that
they
said
that
there
is
a
challenge
with
administering
the
election,
but
in
no
way
shape
or
form.
The
Senate
was
impossible.
F
A
list
that
has
been
provided
from
the
city
clerk
has
made
its
way
through
our
city
staff
and
what
they
deemed
to
be
issues.
But
it's
also
made
its
way
to
Queens
Park,
we're
in
the
ministry,
Municipal,
Affairs
and
and
all
the
senior
bureaucrats
over
there
has
given
an
a
commitment
from
what
I
have
her
to
our
our
city
staff.
I'm,
going
to
love
to
ask
the
question
on
the
fourth
floor
council,
but
that's
no
longer
an
opportunity,
but
they
have
said
that
they
will
give
all
the
resources
that
are
needed
to
carry
this
out.
F
So
in
order
to
carry
this
out.
Yes,
we
need
the
province
at
the
table
and
from
everything
I
have
seen.
They
are
at
the
table
to
help
roll
this
out
for
an
October
22nd
election.
The
other
thing
we
need
to
do
is
give
them
the
resources
from
City
Council
I.
Thank
the
mayor
for
placing
that
motion
all
right,
I
think
I
believe
it
was
the
mayor.
Yes,
Mara
Tory,
for
place
into
motion
to
give
the
resources
they
need
to
carry
out
this
election.
Now.
F
F
The
referendum
happened
on
June
7th
when
this
government
was
elected
with
one
of
the
largest
majorities
in
this
provinces,
history,
and
if
we
were
watching
the
same
campaign
and
same
election,
I
heard
very
clearly
from
this
premier
from
this
government
in
mpps
across
the
province.
Now
it's
about
reducing
the
size
and
cost
to
government
and
then
when
I
draw
a
connection.
F
This
is
absolutely
in
no
way
shape
or
form
outside
of
that
we
are
a
creature
of
the
promise,
so
I
absolutely
believe
a
full
confidence
that
this
government
is
governing
for
the
people
representing
the
people
and
what
they
have
heard.
I
know
just
in
my
hair
me
alone,
I
had
a
number
of
events
this
weekend,
including
an
environment
day
where
people
came
up
to
me.
F
I
need
not
hear
one
person
opposed
to
this
government's
direction,
so
I
will
rock
Locke
was
saying
I
think
there
are
a
couple
good
emotions
here
that
I
will
be
supporting
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
future.
How
do
we
adapt
to
I
guess
the
situation
we
have
been
put
in,
which
is
doable
and
move
forward?
Thank
you.
G
G
Some
of
the
soapboxing
the
speeches,
the
maneuvers,
the
128
members
motions
to
try
to
get
everything
fit
in
just
before
the
election,
so
it
can
go
on
to
a
brochure.
It
amazes
me
what
amazes
me
more?
As
I
sat
and
I
looked
at
people
in
this
chamber
and
what
I
saw
on
Thursday
night
when
I
guess
there
was
a
Twitter
Twitter
feed
that
talked
about.
Perhaps
some
changes
coming
from
the
province,
I
thought
about
the
kubler-ross
model,
and
that
is
the
the
five
stages
of
grief.
G
There's
denial,
there's
anger:
there's
bargaining
I
saw
that
I
still
see
it
going
on.
There's
depression
and
there's
acceptance
and
I.
Think
where
this
councils
head
has
to
be
is
understanding
acceptance
that
a
province
is
moving
ahead
on
something.
What
are
we
doing
to
prepare
ourselves
for
it?
There's
an
election
coming
up
in
two
and
a
half
months.
G
The
clerk's
have
outlined
some
concerns.
They
have
they're
very
capable
and
intelligent
and
hardworking
people.
What
are
we
doing
to
make
sure
that
they're
ready
to
administer
this
election
and
that
there
isn't
a
contest
on
the
results
afterwards?
Those
are
the
questions
we
need
to
be
asking
ourselves.
I
know
that
the
mayor
has
put
a
motion
to
put
some
resources
forward.
I
urge
everybody
to
support
that,
because
it's
it
very
important
that
this
body
supports
our
staff
through
that
election.
G
You
know
people
say
oh,
this
is
this
is
new.
You
know,
I
talked
to
my
dad
about
this
and
members
of
council
know
that
my
dad
sat
in
this
room
for
many
years
and
has
a
lot
of
political
experience,
and
he
smiled,
he
said
you
know.
Back
in
around
2000
I
wrote
a
letter
to
Minister
Clemente,
and
this
was
just
after
amalgamation
when
there
were
57
councillors
and
that
government
reduced
the
council
to
44.
G
Well,
as
my
dad
told
me,
Minister
Clemente
read
part
of
his
letter
in
the
house,
as
he
was
making
an
announcement
regarding
this.
So
unfortunately
didn't
go
farther
in
his
own
estimation,
but
here
we
are
in
a
natural
form
of
succession
making
that
change.
Many
years
later,
it's
my
dad's
birthday
tomorrow
I
think
it's
a
great
birthday
present.
Is
it
something
that
he
talked
to
me
about
for
many
many
years?
I
just
keep
hearing
these
things
about.
G
You
know
it's
gonna
be
more
work
or
something
you
know
it
counselors
make
a
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand
dollars
that's
more
than
most
people
make
in
this
city.
We
have
office
budgets
of
thirty
thousand
dollars,
that's
more
than
many
household
incomes
in
this
city.
There
are
spent
on
newsletters
and
expenses
and
other
things
I
think
we
should
be
working
really
hard
here,
and
you
know
people
talk
about
effective
representation,
pull
the
voting
record,
there's
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
sixty
eight
votes
that
are
recorded
in
the
system.
Ask
yourself
how
many
of
those
you've
cast?
G
E
Speaker
I
find
this
members
disparaging
remarks
about
the
people
who
have
been
elected
by
the
residents
in
their
wards
to
represent
them
here.
Unacceptable
and
I
want
him
to
withdraw
those
remarks
if
he
so
despises
this
role,
why
are
you
even
here
cut
the
counselor
holiday?
Why
are
you
even
here
if
you
have
so
little
four
thousand.
H
A
H
I
H
Regard
to
cutting
Council
in
half
to
25
I
am
asking
it's
it's
a
comparative
of
work
load
I'm,
asking
all
the
things
about:
BI
A's.
If
councillor
holiday
has
be
IAS
and
his
Ward
Business
Improvement
Association.
If
he
has
residents
associations
award,
if
do
you
do
a
newsletter,
a
weekly
or
monthly
newsletter,
but
County?
You
host
events?
Are
you
on
social
media?
How
many
development
applications
would
you
have
arena
board
house
to
make
ax
yeah
emails
and
phone
calls
now
to
make
beer
as
to
why
we.
A
J
A
J
A
J
G
J
Speaker
I
just
want
to
understand
the
logic
behind
the
fact.
48
47
counts,
less
would
be
fighting,
but
25
councilors
will
not
be
fighting.
Does
it
means
a
uniform
group
of
people
who
think
the
same
way
are
going
to
be
elected.
The
next
council
by
this
25
counts
list
is
that
only
one
way
of
thinking
people
that's
going
to
come
later.
I
think.
A
B
I
do
actually
speaker
and
I-
it's
very
difficult
for
me
to
actually
raise
this
and
I
hope
you'll.
Take
it
in
the
best
way,
but
on
Friday
I
would
just
ask
you
to
be
as
neutral
as
possible
in
your
interventions,
because
on
Friday
you
were
at
a
press
conference
called
by
a
number
of
councillors
in
the
members
lounge
to
completely
support
this
actions
that
are
taken
by
the
provincial
government
and
I
would
well.
You
do
have
the
right
to
do
that.
B
A
B
Point:
do
you
have
a
question
that
councillor
holiday
no
I
have
first
of
all
a
point
of
order,
which
is
that
the
speaker's
role
to
my
understanding
is
to
be
the
neutral
body
when
of
council
and
that
I
understand
you
have
a
personal
opinion
and
a
political
opinion,
but
you
have
a
higher
calling
from
this
council
and
that
is
to
be
the
speaker
and
to
represent
the
fact.
There
are
many
different
opinions
at
City,
Hall
and
on
city
council.
So
I'll
just
make
my
point
in
that
way
and
then
I'll
ask
my
questions.
A
B
A
F
A
B
B
B
Period
did
nominations
open
on
the
1st
of
May
I
believe
they
did
and
the
nominations
were
closed
on
the
27th
for
47
seats.
Is
that
correct,
I
believe
that's
true?
There's
no
legislation
as
of
2:30
on
Monday
afternoon.
So
technically
we
are
in
an
election
period
that
hasn't
been
changed
in
any
way,
except
for
an
announcement
that
it
might
be
changed.
Would
you
agree
with
that
sure
so
you're
asking
us
to
change
an
election
period
after
remember
how
long
we
depend.
G
D
A
D
The
motion
is
to
cut
ourselves
to
25.
Do
you
believe
that
we're
gonna
have
a
much
a
much
better
system
in
place
that
will
have
every
counselor
in
this
place,
with
25
with
something
that
they
can
do,
whether
it's
committee,
whether
it's
and
and
feel
like
they're,
actually
participating
in
the
administration
I,
do.
G
K
I
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
gonna.
Ask
my
colleague
from
Etobicoke
the
merits
of
his
motion.
I
do
have
I,
do
have
a
question
on
how
the
governance
model
in
this
place
might
operate.
Executive
Committee
has
eight
counselors.
Community
Development
has
five
members:
economic
development,
five
members,
government
management,
five
members,
licensing
standards,
five
members
parks
and
the
environment;
five
members
planning
a
growth:
five
members,
Public
Works:
five
members,
affordable
housing
committee,
audit
committee,
six
members,
Budget
Committee,
six
members,
labor
and
employee
relations.
Six
members,
civic
appointments
committee
has
not
up
to
nine
members.
K
There
are
the
five
nominating
panels:
there's
the
Toronto
Community
Housing
Corporation,
which
has
six
members:
Toronto
Hydro
hydro
corporation
three
members,
Board
of
Health
six
members,
Exhibition
Place,
four
members
plus
designates
by
the
mayor
atmospheric
fund
parking
authority.
Two
members,
Toronto
Transit
Commission,
has
seven
members
the
zoo
three
members.
There
are
various
disabilities
issues,
committees,
pension
boards,
occupational
safety,
CNE
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on
tronto
conservation
authorities.
K
K
G
I
Just
I
just
want
to
ask
my
colleague
why
he
would
want
to,
through
his
motion,
applauded
the
provincial
government
when
they
have
clearly
clearly
stepped
into
our
area
of
jurisdiction
and
basically
have
made
a
decision
for
us.
That's
clearly
our
decision
to
make.
Why
would
you
applaud
somebody
who
comes
in
and
basically
you're
getting
paid
a
lot
of
money,
but
you
didn't
get
to
make
this
decision,
they
made
it
for
you
and
why
would
you
applaud
someone
like
that?
Well,.
I
I
G
I
Me
ask
you
another
question
there
another
way
same
question
sure
that
government
that
premier
the
power
to
change
each
and
every
decision
you
make
here
all
4,000
votes
that
you
take
every
single
year.
They
have
the
power
to
come
in
and
say:
nay,
yay,
I
change
it.
So
every
time
you
vote
on
the
wrong
side,
you
and
your
daddy
write
a
letter
to
that
premier
and
say
change
that
decision,
because
I
didn't
agree
with
it
counts
to
Peru.
So
what
is
your
question?
That's
my
question.
I
I
A
Ok,
members
of
council,
that's
the
questions.
No,
no
there's
I
think
no
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
recess,
because
I've
informed
the
public
to
try
to
keep
it
down.
No
disruptions,
no
applauding,
and
you
continue
to
do
that.
If
you
continue
to
do
that,
I
have
to
ask
everybody
to
leave
the
council
chambers
no
heckling.
A
A
I
A
D
Yeah
and
it's
it's
it's
just
to
lighten
up
the
mood
a
little
bit.
If
you
don't
mind,
I'd
like
to
introduce
a
very
special
person
to
me,
that's
that's
in
the
chamber,
and
it
has
been
a
few
years
since
she's
been
in
the
chamber,
I
guess
what
watching
dad
work
and
that's
my
daughter,
Isabella
who's
behind
me
and
the
last
time
some
of
you
saw
her,
including
the
mayor,
was
probably
in
her
in
her
in
her
in
her
stroller
and
and
she
has
grown
up
to
this
place.
D
E
G
E
G
E
E
G
E
G
E
G
E
To
understand
some
of
the
rationale
behind
the
motion,
you
participated
councillor
and
provided
input
on
the
options
report
for
the
Toronto
boundary
review,
and
there
was
consultation
on
that
review.
There
was
input
from
the
public,
there
was
input
from
councillors
and
there
was
a
recommendation
in
the
end
to
adopt
a
47
Ward
model
and
within
our
jurisdiction
under
the
City
of
Toronto
act.
We
made
that
change,
so
why
would
you
support
a
process
that
did
none
of
those
things
that
had
no
consultation?
Your
daughter's.
K
E
A
L
And
through
you,
thank
you.
My
question
is
the
city
of
Trial.
Act
requires
a
final
decision
on
any
changes
to
wards
to
be
made
by
December
31st
of
the
year
before
the
municipal
election,
so
that
the
number
of
the
wards
and
their
boundaries
are
clear
to
voters
and
the
candidates
during
the
election
year.
Do
you
believe
that
this
change
from
forty
four
to
twelve
to
twenty
five
made
last
week
by
way
of
announcement?
Do
you
believe
that
that
number
one
it
now
contradicts
the
Municipal
Elections
Act,
which
I
just
read
to
you?
That's.
G
G
L
G
L
L
I
have
two
more
questions
regarding
the
25
Ward
proposition,
which
is
exactly
contain
in
your
motion.
One
of
the
reasons
the
consultants
decided
against
the
25
Ward's
was
that
it
was
going
to
fall
outside
the
plus
or
minus
10%
variance,
which
will
then
change
voter
parity
and
effective
representation.
L
You'll
probably
remember,
reading
that
report
correct
sure,
okay
and
that
by
the
year,
2026,
Don
Valley
East,
for
example,
in
Toronto
Center
North,
which
will
have
some
of
the
smallest
populations,
will
then
see
extreme
difference
between
the
largest
wards,
which
will
then
be
a
topical
lakeshore
by
a
difference
of
50,000
residents.
Meaning
Etobicoke
lakeshore
will
then
be
disenfranchised
if
you
vote
for
the
25
Ward
system.
Are
you
aware
of
that.
L
G
Thank
you.
That
was
the
last
question.
So
I
can
answer
the
the
answer.
I
can
give
as
I
understand
that
voter
parity
moves
with
time
and
I
suppose
that
you
will
have
to
take
and
figure
out
what
year
you
want
to
take
the
snapshot
in.
So
without
the
analysis
in
front
of
me,
I
can't
confirm
or
deny
what
you're
saying
here
but
counts.
K
G
Madam
Speaker
I
really
have
not
had
a
chance
to
read
the
the
proposed
legislation
that
I
understand
has
just
been
table.
So
I
couldn't
tell
you
if
there's
a
mechanism
already
built
into
that,
what
I
can
tell
you
is
today
I
think
the
25
councilors
is
better
than
44
or
47,
and
that's
really
what
the
motion
says.
K
Through
through
you,
we
could
my
colleague
25
is
today
in
1988
it
was
20
when
I
got
elected
federally.
Now
it's
25,
as
the
population
of
Toronto
increases
redistribution
gets
done
every
after
after
every
ten
years
after
a
census.
Would
you
be
willing
to
support
something
that
says
that
in
the
future,
as
the
increase
happens,
we
align
ourselves
to
the
federal
provincial
municipal
boundaries,
I.
G
M
G
I
can't
speak
for
why
the
federal
government
excuse
me
why
the
provincial
government
chose
that,
but
they
did
reference
the
configuration
of
25,
provincial
and
federal
electoral
districts.
So,
logically
speaking,
there
would
be
an
easier
understanding
by
the
public.
I
think
I
mentioned
that
before
and.
M
M
G
G
A
A
A
D
Point
I
mean
I,
stand
up
and
try
and
ask
some
questions:
I
get
cut
off
the
microphone
gets
shut
off
as
soon
as
I.
Have
you
ask
me
to
sit
down
for
exactly
the
same
reasons,
but
for
some
reason,
counselor
McKevitt
gets
to
play
it
out
as
long
as
he
can
I
think.
There's
fairness
that
needs
to
be.
There
needs
to
be
a
you
know,
kind
of
adopted,
and
this
trying.
A
N
E
G
C
Thank
you.
Madam
Speaker.
I
was
a
city
staff
member
at
the
time
of
amalgamation,
and
the
number
of
elected
representatives
just
in
the
city
of
Scarborough
was
reduced
from
15
to
10
a
33%
reduction
in
the
number
of
elected
representatives
in
Scarborough,
but
I
would
challenge
people
to
say
to
me
today
that
they
do
not
have
as
good
representation
in
Scarborough
today
as
they
did
20
or
30
years
ago,
that
somehow,
because
of
a
reduction
in
the
number
of
counselors,
they
have
less
service.
Their
calls
are
returned
slower.
C
The
staff
don't
respond
to
their
pothole
complaints
or
garbage
complaints
or
rooming
house
complaints
slower
than
it
than
it
did
20
or
30
years
ago.
I
would
actually
submit
to
you
that
the
duction
in
the
number
of
seats
in
scarborough
has
not
ended
the
world,
and
let
me
jump
out
to
the
to
this
city,
south
of
Steel's
Avenue.
At
the
time
of
amalgamation,
we
had
58
elected
representatives
and
at
the
time
of
amalgamation
through
the
Harris
government.
At
the
time
the
number
of
elected
representatives
fell
from
58
to
44
seats.
C
Many
people
at
the
time
because
I
was
there.
I
was
a
staff.
Member
I
was
at
all
the
public
meetings.
Many
people
claimed
the
world
was
going
to
end.
The
vibrancy
of
the
city
would
end
the
ability
of
people
to
participate
in
government
would
end
people
wouldn't
be
able
to
talk
to
their
local
councillor.
They
would
there
would
no
longer
be
a
sense
of
community
that
councillors
couldn't
make
proper
decisions
because
they
wouldn't
be
in
touch
with
their
residents.
Those
people
who
said
that
were
wrong.
That
has
not
happened.
C
In
fact,
when
the
megacity
came
here,
my
memory
is
correct:
I
didn't
have
a
cell
phone
I,
don't
think
anyone
I
knew
had
a
cell
phone
I
was
not
on
email
very
actively
back
then
we
did
some
for
City
business.
Youtube
wasn't
invented,
iPhone,
wasn't
around
Twitter,
wasn't
around
Instagram
wasn't
around
so
for
people
who
say
to
me,
you
know
I,
just
don't
like
going
down
to
20
25
because
of
the
we're
gonna
lose
their
vibrancy.
I
profoundly
disagree
with
them.
C
The
ability
to
contact
any
one
of
us
especially
say
in
Scarborough
your
local
Scarborough
councillor
is
much
easier
today
than
it
ever
has
been
in
the
history
of
the
City
of
Toronto.
If
you
have
an
iPad
at
home
or
a
computer,
you
can
send
me
an
email
instantly
and
people
get
upset
with
me.
If
I
don't
respond
to
the
email
on
the
same
day,
people
can
people
are
on
Twitter
they're
on
Instagram
they're,
on
Facebook
they're
they're
on
the
the
websites.
C
C
It
is
unfortunate
that
prefer
me
personally
that
perhaps
one
of
us
may
not
be
here
in
the
next
election,
but
when
you
go
to
the
next
Canada
Day,
there
will
still
be
a
councillor
Scarborough
Center,
and
anybody
who
wants
to
talk
to
that
counselor
will
get
their
fair
hearing
in
front
of
that
counselor
right
on
the
sidewalk
at
Thompson
Park.
In
fact,
many
of
us
counselors
in
Scarborough
actually
chase
our
constituents.
We
go
to
the
bus,
stops.
C
C
I
call
I,
just
I
can
only
describe
it
to
my
friends
and
my
families
when
I
go
home,
as
you
wouldn't
believe
what
happened
at
Council
today,
it
is
just
totally
dysfunctional.
When
David
Miller
was
in
office,
there
were
people
who
would
do
anything
they
could
to
stop
him.
No
matter
what
and
when
Rob
Ford
became
mayor
of
this
city.
There
are
people
who
would
do
anything
they
could
to
stop
him.
C
Now
we
have
mayor
Tory
as
our
mayor,
and
there
are
some
people
in
chamber
who
will
do
anything
they
can
to
stop
him
to
make
him
look
bad,
to
make
accusations
on
the
floor
of
counsel,
to
jump
up
and
say
things
that
simply
are
untrue
and
have
no
basis
in
fact.
Sometimes
our
points
of
order,
like
we've
just
seen
today
our
points
of
of
lecture
points
of
discussion,
points
of
rudeness.
C
This
council
has
become
dysfunctional
on
Friday
morning.
I
came
to
work.
This
past
Friday
I
came
to
work,
I
came
to
work
to
work.
There
are
15
items
left
on
the
agenda,
and
people
jumped
up
and
said
well
I'd
like
to
talk
about
my
own
job.
First,
let's
suspend
the
order
of
business
change
the
order
of
business
because
we
want
to
talk
about.
A
O
Speaker
I
I,
don't
know
where
to
start
this.
This
is
one
of
those
things
where,
if
I
were
to
categorize
the
kind
of
change
that
is
being
proposed,
it
is
known
as
transformational
change.
It
is
known
as
very
very
significant
change
or
current,
and
it
takes
me
back
to
my
previous
history.
One
of
the
real
transfer
transformational
changes
that
occurred
in
the
field
of
education
was
when
all
of
a
sudden,
the
education
system
in
the
early
90s
was
told
we're
eliminating
rate
30
and
in
the
process
of
eliminating
great
13.
O
O
Five
of
the
seats
that
are
being
added
on
to
the
25.
It
is
really
to
make
the
five
designated
deputy
mayors,
elected
positions
and
I
suspect
that,
when
the
provincial
government,
when
the
provincial
government
revisits
what
they're
doing
in
the
regions
and
they're
saying
well,
we
want
to
review
making
appointed
regional
chairs
elected
chairs.
Yes,
they
will
come
forward
and,
at
that
same
time,
I
believe
that
they'll
make
a
comment
on
the
composition
of
Toronto
Council.
O
Now,
in
the
meantime,
I
believe
that
it
is
inevitable
that
we
need
to
move
to
a
council
comprised
of
25
members.
The
provincial
government
has
all
the
power
to
make
that
change
mandatory.
There's
most
of
you
have
said
we
are
creatures
of
the
province.
We
are
elected
bureaucrats,
we
are
not
elected
politicians,
we
are
not
a
level
of
government,
we
are
giving.
We
are
given
marching
orders
by
the
province.
If
the
province
says
this
is
the
policy
then
through
counts,
through
the
mayor's
leadership.
O
O
Now
I've
heard
comments
say
this
council
is
in
an
ordered
state.
We
function
very
well,
we
listen
to
people
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
provincial
government
is
throwing
us
into
chaos.
The
other
side
of
course
says
this.
Council
is
in
a
very
chaotic
state,
and
the
provincial
government
is
introducing
legislation
that
represents
the
first
step
in
introducing
order
to
a
chaotic
situation.
There
are
some
of
us
that
mean
that
way
and
I'm,
one
of
them
I'm
one
of
those
people.
O
That
knows
that
the
changes
being
proposed
need
to
be
implemented
so
that
we
can
deal
with
important
issues
and
going
forward.
The
issues
that
are
important
are:
how
do
we
prioritize
the
expenditures
that
we're
having
to
make?
We
can't
keep
expending
at
the
rate
that
we
have
been
spending.
We
cannot
keep
spending
at
the
rate
that
the
municipal
land
transfer
tax
has
allowed
us
to
spend,
because
if
the
municipal
land
transfer
tax
stabilizes
or
starts
to
disappear,
we
are
going
to
be
in
that
chaotic
state.
So
what
this
seeks
to
say
is
the
motion.
O
Sorry,
the
the
legislation
seeks
to
do
is
to
say
look,
you've
been
taught
you've
been
talking
about
what
happens?
What
do
we
do
in
the
land
transfer
tax?
All
of
a
sudden,
disappeared,
Peter
Wallace
told
us.
We
were
running
into
a
danger
zone,
we
better
start
to
prepare
for
it.
This
is
the
first
step
in
preparing
for
it
because
we
were
now
we
all
know.
We
all
know
that
the
other
way
we
can
do
it
is
to
say
well
the
best
way
to
keep
spending
at
the
rate
we
have
Venice.
O
They
just
increase
the
property
taxes,
but
we
have
been
increasing
property
taxes.
The
land
transfer
tax
is
a
targeted
property
tax.
Some
people
have
been
carrying
the
burden
of
paying
more
property
taxes
through
the
municipal
land
transfer
tax.
Not
all
not
all
people
carry
that
burden,
but
if
we
start
increasing
property
taxes,
let's
say
three
years
down
the
road,
we're
gonna
say
we're
gonna,
increase
property
taxes,
five
percent
at
a
time,
I
can
tell
you
that
I
will
be
proposing.
O
Well,
those
people
that
have
paid
the
municipal
land
transfer
tax
in
the
last
ten
years
they
shouldn't
be
hit
with
that
property
tax
increase
because
you've
already
targeted
them.
So
that's
those
are.
Those
are
fundamental.
I've
heard
people
in
the
city,
they're
saying
my
property
values
are
going
up
five
percent
here
cute.
We
need
property,
tax
relief,
Thank.
P
P
P
P
So
we
think
the
confusion
in
terms
of
the
boundaries,
what
they
are
asking
me
and
whether
what
I
want
to
see
is
you
know
something
that
reflects
that
level
of
functionality,
a
council
that
gets
things
done
and
puts
ratepayers
first,
and
this
is
not
actually
happening.
I
mean
Anna
strong
support
from
day
one
about
having
a
strong
mayor
system
in
the
theater
on,
as
we
have
in
other
parts
of
North
America,
we
haven't
New
York.
P
Why?
Because
I
think
very
accessible
as
I
am
now
as
I
was
then
so
what
we
have
in
terms
of
consultation
with
the
community?
That's
something
that
bothers
me
a
lot
when
the
concept
that
was
implemented
of
having
them
the
new
model,
the
47
city,
councilors
I,
did
ask
the
very
question,
and
through
the
at
Oracle
your
community
council,
we
asked
to
have
a
referendum
to
consult
with
the
public,
and
that
is
in
that
proposition
was
shut
down
in
these
cancer
chambers.
P
However,
was
it
by
then,
and
how
dare
we
at
this
point
to
wind
up
that
part
always
say
you
know?
Well,
we
have
to
go
in
constantly
our
communities
when
I
spoke
about
that
and
when
the
local
community
council,
where
I
belong
to.
At
this
point,
we
asked
very
clearly
please
give
an
opportunity
to
our
residents
to
be
part
of
the
decision-making.
It
was
a
top-down
approach,
force
down
the
throats
of
our
residents
and
that's
not
right.
B
You
Thank
You
speaker
just
just
to
correct
one
thing:
I
think
it's
important.
We
have
correct
information
here
and
the
city
of
Los
Angeles
has
15
city
councilors
in
a
Metro
organization
and
96
councillors,
representing
neighborhood
councillors
for
114
representatives
in
the
city
of
Los
Angeles
speaker.
Thank
you.
J
Speaker
I
have
a
motion
to
amend
councilor
flesh,
Fletcher's
motion
that
adds
a
date
for
the
meeting
as
well
as
changes
the
language
a
bit
the
debate
about
where
there
are
forty,
seven,
forty,
four
twenty
five.
It's
an
important
debate
to
have,
and
it's
good
that
we
are
having
that
debate
and
I'm
all
willing
to
have
that
debate
and
I
think
there
are
clearly
points
being
made
for
for
for
pro
and
corner
on
that.
J
But
let's
talk
about
what's
happening
here
and
I
I
came
into
this
position
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
after
an
income
and
was
there
for
twenty
five
years
and
I
feel
a
bit
connected
to
candidates,
including
the
candidates
who
are
trying
to
run
against
me
in
my
ward
as
well.
When
people
prepare
them
when
people
you
know
fundraise,
when
they
have
tried
taking
time
off
when
they
have
decided
to
work
in
a
particular
area
to
unseat
an
incumbent
or
even
to
come
into
a
seat,
that's
become
vacant.
J
There's
a
lot
of
preparation
that
goes
into
it.
A
lot
of
family
sacrifice
that
goes
into
a
lot
of
hard
work
that
goes
into
it
and
at
that's
part
of
democracy
and
I,
think
we've
defined
the
game.
We
have
defined
how
this
is
going
to
be
held,
how
the
election
is
going
to
be
held
and
for
the
integrity
of
the
election
to
be
changed
halfway.
It's
total
disservice
to
the
candidates
who
have
put,
and
these
candidates
are
not
anybody
else.
They
are
Torontonians
themselves.
J
Those
500
people
are
torrent,
onehans
and
those
500
people
have
teams
of
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
who
are
Torontonians
as
well.
So
this
is
an
important
discussion
to
have
in
there.
They
are
uncertainty.
Their
plight
has
to
be
taken
into
consideration
and
the
other
piece
is
is
around
diversity.
You
know
we
had
four
wait
for
new
wards.
J
We
had
few
vacant
seats,
a
lot
of
young
people,
a
lot
of
racialized
community
members
were
vying
for
those
seats
because
it
is
hard
to
unseat
an
incumbent,
and
we
know
that
and
by
changing
it
at
25
those
Forks
out
of
here,
those
25
that
are
going
to
make
it
a
lifelong
job.
If
you
want
to
change-
and
there
are
many
counselors
who
got
up
here
and
said
this
is
dysfunctional-
this
is
dysfunctional.
Okay,
let's
take
a
collective
responsibility
of
dysfunctionality.
All
of
us
give
up
our
seats
and
let's
have
a
new
people.
J
New
set
of
people
come
in.
Would
we
be
willing
to
do
that?
Because
this
functionality
is
the
function
of
every
single
member
and
it
reflects
every
one
of
those
people
who
called
out
this
place,
because
it
is
very
important
for
us
to
have
spaces
for
discussion
more
people
having
an
almost
like
or
or
if
counselor
salaries
is
the
problem,
cut
it
into
half
and
let
people
who
really
deserve
some
of
these
jobs
apply
and
come
in
to
manage
these
things,
because
people
need
to
see
new
people
coming
here.
J
They
don't
just
have
a
party
structure
to
come
into
an
election
and
win
so
when
you
make
it
double
the
size
you're
making
it
harder
for
new
people
to
get
into
City
Council
and
becomes
the
same
group
of
people
that
will
make
those
determination,
because
there's
no
party
double
the
amount
of
fundraising
to
unseat
and
and
people
with
the
last
name.
People
who
have
passed
on
from
father
and
son
and
daughter
and
husband
and
all
those
people
will
continue
to
be
the
councilors
in
this
area.
J
It
is
very
important
to
focus
that
we
need
to
make
council
the
local
democracy
work
for
people
who
want
to
come
in
here.
Scarborough
has
six
hundred
and
thirty
two
thousand
people
Markham,
just
not
of
my
ward-
has
three
hundred
and
twenty
eight,
almost
half
of
it
with
12
councillors,
and
we
want
to
cut
Scarborough
councillors
to
half
the
size
of
their
six,
which
means
under
representations
and
committees.
You
know
how
many
of
us
are
going
to
be
able
to
be
representing
all
the
different
communities.
J
How
many
of
us
are
going
to
be
able
to
be
there
for
the
voices
so
having
more
people?
It's
important
for
Scarborough
to
have
the
voice
that
they
need
so
that
they
can
be
heard
in
various
decision-making
so
in
effectively
by
cutting
it
into
half
you're
gonna
get
under-represent
out
of
ten
counts
less
in
Scarborough,
and
you
know
they're
there
there
has
to
be
diversity
of
voices
in
our
decision-making
and
it's
important
for
us
to
keep
that
in
mind.
J
The
last
thing
I
want
to
I
want
to
make
sure
is
that
conducting
this
election
in
there,
such
a
hasty
manner,
which
sacrified
may
sacrifice
accessibility,
may
sacrifice
tenants
rights
to
find
a
safe
place
to
what
may
sacrifice
language
translation
may
sacrifice
the
advance,
avoiding
prohibitions.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
we
are
able
to
conduct
this
election
in
a
fair
method
so
that
we
don't
have
to
sacrifice
any
of
those
things
to
hold
a
fair
and
inclusive
elections.
That
city
of
Toronto
is
very
proud
to
have
had
in
the
past
many
years.
J
J
I
actually
would
like
to
see
this
discussion
happen
in
a
democratically
possible
way
with
with
community
man.
I
knocked
on
the
doors
last
two
days,
and
you
know,
there's
debate
about
some
people
125
some
people
147
some
people
who,
unless
some
people
who
want
more,
that
is
fine,
but
most
people
agree
changing
the
election
halfway
through
when
it's
happening.
J
It's
an
unfair
process,
regardless
of
where
your
political
spectrum
is,
regardless
of
what
you
think
about
a
particular
policy,
and
it's
important
for
us
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
discuss
this,
because
it's
not
unfair
for
just
the
councilors
who
are
running
for
reelection,
but
also
the
candidates,
their
teams
and
the
public
who
have
a
right
to
have
a
fair
and
equitable
representation.
Thank
you.
C
I
I
Let
me
let
me
say
that
one
more
time
the
population
of
the
city
of
Kingston
is
a
hundred
and
twenty-three
thousand
people.
They
have
12
councillors
and
a
mayor.
Are
they
being
reduced
in
half
or
consistent
with
the
provincial
seats
or
federal
seats?
No,
neither
is
Hamilton
Ottawa,
whatever
all
the
other
cities
Windsor
and
so
on.
I
I
You
get
it
for
free.
You
made
a
decision
last
week
to
save
that
money.
You
get
that
council,
you
get
all
the
politician
next
20
years
for
free
would
that
decision
have
gone
the
other
way.
Only
if
you
had
13
people
here,
ask
yourselves
would
that
decision
of
gone
the
other
way.
If
you
only
had
13
people
here,
I
can
answer
that,
for
you
most
of
you
can
answer
that
for
yourselves
in
your
own
heads
yes
said:
wouldn't
ya
would
have
given
it
away.
I
I
I
I
I'll
tell
you
another
thing:
that's
really
distasteful
for
me
and
you
should
always
ml
Galatian.
You
didn't
have
the
power.
The
cities
didn't
have
the
power
to
either
amalgamate
or
not
amalgamate.
That
was
a
provincial
power,
Mike
Harris
you
may
like
or
not
like
what
he
did,
but
it
was
his
decision
to
make.
I
That
was
a
provincial
decision.
This
is
not.
This
is
not.
This
is
a
decision
which
this
council
gets
to
make.
That's
where
you
get
elected.
That's
why
that's?
Why
holiday
gets
paid
the
big
bucks
to
decide
what
boundaries
he
doesn't
get
to
decide?
Oh
I
didn't
like
the
decision,
so
me
and
my
god.
You're
gonna
write
a
letter,
change
that
get
the
premier
to
exercise
his
absolute
power
and
change
that
for
us,
because
I
didn't
like
it
well
one
day
he
may
get
a
premier
that
he
may
not
like
up
there.
I
I
C
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
it's
no
secret
I
support,
reducing
the
council
to
25
and
I've,
always
supported
I've,
been
very
consistent
over
the
years
when
we
amalgamated
and
when
mal
last
Minh
was
mayor.
We
have
57
counselors
and
the
we
moved
emotion
at
that
time
to
reduce
council
to
44,
which
we
did
and
then
when
David
Miller
was
mayor,
there
was
a
similar
motion,
move
to
cut
it
to
22,
which
I
supported.
I
A
Then,
when
mayor
Ford,
there
was
also
a
motion
to
cut
it,
which
I
supported
and
two
years
ago,
when
we,
when
we
expanded
the
boundaries,
it
was
also
a
motion
which
I
supported
to
cut
so
there's
no
secret
I
support
it.
Absolutely
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
trying
to
hide
the
fact.
I
was
there
at
the
press
conference
on
Friday.
Yes,
absolutely
what
I
don't
support
and
I
haven't
supported
and
I
made
that
very
clear
as
well
to
my
constituents
and
to
the
media
is
on
the
timing
and
the
process.
A
I
do
not
support
that
I
expected
it
to
happen.
One
day,
I
was
I
was
shocked
when
it
happened.
A
came
a
complete
surprise
to
me.
I
I
would
have
thought
because
I
know
that
that
was
the
intent.
It
has
been
the
intent
for
the
last
20
years,
which
I
do
support,
but
I
thought
there
would
be
a
process.
I
thought
it
would
be
in
effect,
may
be
in
the
next
municipal
election
or,
if
anything,
maybe
the
municipal
election
delayed
to
give
an
opportunity
for
the
candidates
and
Presidium
selves.
A
As
it
was
mentioned
by
councillor
Campbell,
all
there's
a
number
of
committees.
We
have
to
sit
on
what
it
means.
It's
some
councillors
have
to
work
harder.
You
know
that's
what
it
means.
We
have
to
work
harder
and
you
know
well
maybe
it's
not
fair
councillor
perks
but
I'm
hearing
all
these
innuendos
against
each
other.
But
when
I
say
something,
it's
not
fair.
A
There
are
some
counselors
as
well.
I
mean
Sui,
amalgamated
and
and
by
the
way,
when
we
amalgamated,
we
did
a
referendum
as
well.
They
former
municipalities,
we
did
of
referendum,
and
it
didn't
mean
absolutely
nothing
because
the
premier
ignored
it,
even
though
it
was
overwhelming
support
against
megacity
the
province
passed
it,
but
we
did
consult,
though
we
did
have
the
opportunity
to
hear
from
our
constituents,
and
that
did
happen.
A
A
There
are
some
councillors
that
spend
more
than
others
they
spend
over
their
budget.
Some
counselors
have
constituency
offices,
some
councillors,
don't
so
each
counts
that
represents
their
community
in
a
different
way
and
so
we're
all
very
different
to
many
many
ways,
but
by
reducing
to
25
I,
don't
think.
A
That's
gonna
change,
I
think
that
members
of
council
that
are
doing
a
lot
of
community
work
and
working
with
the
constituents
that
would
that
would
still
remain
in
place
and
I,
don't
think
that's
the
representation
to
the
constituents
would
not
change
over
the
years
I've
heard
from
when
you
speak
to
constituents.
Why
can't
I
have
this?
Why
can
I
have
that?
Well,
we
don't
have
them.
Well
then
cut
the
cut
the
politicians,
then
you
have
too
many
politicians.
A
You
hear
that
over
and
over
again
and
you've
heard
that
over
and
over
again
but
I
do
not.
I
am
not
happy
with
the
process
and
I'm
not
happy
with
the
premiere.
How
he's
just
the
11th
hour
brought
a
Ford
not
giving
the
opportunity
for
for
consultation,
not
giving
the
opportunity
for
the
candidates
not
giving
opportunity
for
the
city
to
prepare
themselves
for
the
municipal
election.
I
am
not
happy
with
that
at
all.
So
those
are
my
comments.
Mr.
chairman
Thank.
C
Q
Why
why
would
they
do
this?
Why
would
they
pick
a
fight
with
the
second
biggest
government?
Why
would
they
use
up
their
very
first
few
weeks
in
their
legislature
doing
this,
which
they
didn't
even
run
on?
What's
going
on?
What's
this
about?
Is
it
about
money?
No,
it's
not
about
money,
we'll
spend
more
money
than
they
save
just
having
two
elections,
one
set
up
in
the
period
of
a
year.
The
cost
of
the
clerk
of
having
to
set
up
a
second
election
will
eat
up
all
the
savings.
It's
not
about
money.
Q
Is
it
about
us
disagreeing
with
each
other?
Well,
let's
hope
that
they
think
we
should
disagree
with
each
other,
because
governments
where
everybody
agrees
are
called
autocracies.
One
rule
we're
here
to
disagree
with
each
other.
That's
what
were
for
so.
Why
I'll
tell
you
why,
on
the
same
day,
the
premier
announced
that
he
was
cutting
mental
health
supports
we've
had
two
mass
killings
in
the
City
of
Toronto
in
the
last
few
months
and
he's
cutting
mental
health
supports.
Q
The
premier
is
already
cut
funding
to
TCH,
see
capital
repairs.
The
premier
has
already
gutted
our
climate
plan,
something
we
worked
on
as
a
council
for
a
whole
term
with
thousands
of
Torontonians.
The
premier
is
told
us
he's
coming
for
the
TTC
he's
told
us
he's
coming
for
the
life-saving,
safe
injection
sites.
Our
public
health
system
runs
he's
coming
for
the
things
that
make
Toronto
liveable
and
he
wants
us
distracted.
He
wants
us
back
on
our
heels.
He
wants
us
fighting
with
each
other.
Q
Q
Now
I've
heard
it
said
by
some
in
this
council
chamber
done
deal.
They
have
they
have
the
law
on
their
side.
They
get
to
do
it.
Well,
if
you're
saying
that
you've
forgotten
the
most
important
principle
of
government
governments
govern
with
the
consent
of
the
people,
no
piece
of
paper,
no
legislative
act,
no
decision
by
Doug
Ford
tells
the
people
of
Toronto.
They
have
to
be
governed
by
his
rules.
Q
We
only
get
to
be
here
because
the
people
of
Toronto
consent
to
having
a
City
Council
we're
not
a
creature
of
the
province
where
the
voice
of
Torontonians
and
our
job
is
not
to
toddle
up
to
Queen's
Park
and
ask
them
to
please,
sir:
can
I
have
a
referendum?
I
don't
want
their
permission
for
anything,
my
permission
doesn't
come
from
them.
Q
C
Thank
You,
councillor,
perks
and
I
would
remind
members
in
the
gallery
and
public
in
the
gallery
that
to
be
fair
to
all
councillors,
we
ask
that
you
not
do
the
cat
calls
or
the
applause,
although
it
may
be
counterintuitive
to
applause,
councillor,
perks
and
not
to
count
applause.
Councillor
Davis
is
not
appropriate,
so
please
treat
everybody
fairly.
You
know
what
to
do.
If
you
support
somebody
I
would
ask
you
to
be
respectful
of
all
councillors
as
we
go
through
this
democratic
process.
Thank
you.
Next
on
the
speakers.
K
R
K
You
know
I
applaud
some
of
the
theatrics
that
are
around
us
and
I
applaud
the
passion
the
people
have.
However,
let's
be
real,
I
have
a
motion
that
I
would
like
to
put
up
these,
and
the
motion
is
an
amendment
to
councilor
holidays.
That
says
that
in
the
future
to
continue
to
mirror
the
number
of
federal
and
provincial
writings
in
Toronto
theatrics,
we'll
probably
get
you
know,
we're
standing
up
and
beating
your
chest
again,
we'll
send
you
nowhere.
The
premier
was
elected,
duly
elected
by
the
people
of
Ontario.
K
Decision
was
made
by
the
people
of
Ontario.
The
premier
has,
we
are
a
creature
of
the
city
of
the
province,
other
municipalities
are
the
creature
of
the
province
and
the
premier
and
his
caucus
and
the
the
Queen's
Park
will
decide
where
we
go.
That
debate
is
to
be
handled
there.
However,
I
do
have
a
lot
of
colleagues
that
get
up
and
say
we
are
so
many
people
and
we're
going
to
get
downsized
100.
K
You
know
they
talk
about
the
City
of
Kingston
councillor
who
to
talk
about
the
City
of
Kingston
and
how
many
how
many
counselors
have
so.
Let
me
give
you
another
just
let
me
give
you
another
example
councillor
you
want
to
talk
about.
P,
I
bi
has
about
a
hundred
fifteen
thousand
people.
It
has
four
members
of
parliament
two
senators
and
something
like
30-plus
provincial
legislatures
as
well
as
a
so
many
counselors
hey.
You
know
what
that
is
their
constitution.
K
K
We
have
to
be
respectful
of
the
decision
they
make
at
Queen's
Park,
whether
you
like
it
or
dislike
it.
We
can
stand
here
in
doable
theatrics
and
we
can
stand
here
and
ask
people
in
the
crowd.
You
got
a
ride
right
in
the
streets
and
go
without
a
doubt
of
that.
I've
seen
that
before
we
did
it
when
the
gist
he
came
in
and
he
was
and
it
got
nowhere.
K
N
A
A
K
K
We've
been
colleagues
for
years,
so
either
I
want
to
retire
him
or
he's
gonna
retire
me,
either
or
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
keep
it
civil
with
each
other.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
what
we're
dealt
with
move
on.
Have
your
energy
for
the
campaign
and
standing
up
and
presenting
Patrick's
will
get
you
nowhere.
So
you
know
what
let's
move
on
and
let
the
people
speak.
Thank
you.
J
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
have
a
question.
You
were
I
assume
you
I
think
you
were
a
federal
member
when
the
boundary
changes
happened.
Think
federally
I
think
you
were
so
when
the
boundary
change
has
happened.
Federally
us
an
MP
was
actively
involved
and
you
were
engaged
right.
I
was
engaged
to
say
in
the.
N
I
K
A
point
of
order,
madam
chair
I,
did
not
vote
for
the
GST.
The
GST
was
driving
him
a
loonie
years
and
it
was
in
opposition
I
just
hope.
My
good
friend
gets
it
right.
Counselor
to
council
chan.
The
process
federally
allows
the
members
of
parliament
to
to
intervene
to
have
town
hall
meetings.
The
process
here
that
we're
being
dealt
with.
We
are
a
creature
of
the
province.
J
Pay
grade
so
the
other
question
is,
in
my
neighborhood,
for
example,
Morningside
Heights
neighborhood
gets
cut
into
two
malvern,
which
is
a
community
that
needs
a
lot.
More
support
is
being
cut
into
two.
These
changes
provincially
federally
may
be
different,
but
as
municipal
I,
do
you
see
that
municipal
work
works?
Our
neighborhood
works
around
geographical
divisions.
Would
that
be
fair
to
just
say
that
we
completely
aligned
the
federal
boundaries
all
the
time
counselor
you.
K
Have
as
an
individual,
the
right
to
put
input
into
the
when
the
lines
or
the
every
distribution
has
been
done,
federally
I
do
remember
a
former
colleague
of
ours,
graphic
guy
that
wanted
to
gerrymander
in
my
ward
and
I,
had
townhall
meetings
and
everything
else
and
I
made
sure
that
the
boundaries
of
people's
carburetor
court
were
represented
by
Scarborough,
a
checker,
so
the
members
of
federal
parliament
they
have.
Yes,
they
do
well.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
Commission
decided
so
I
mean
you
want
to
talk
about
gerrymandering
I.
S
There
by
now
thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
A
lot
of
people
have
tried
to
make
this
discussion
25
verses,
47.
Well,
we
all
know
that
this
is
not
what
is
in
front
of
us.
People
talk
about
efficiencies,
people
talk
about
governance,
I.
Think
one
thing
most
of
us
actually
could
agree
that
a
governance
review
is
in
place.
We
could
use
a
governance
review.
I
would
be
totally
open
to
work
with
our
new
premier
on
a
governance
review
for
Toronto.
We
can't
govern
the
city
of
2.8
million
people
the
way
that
we
govern
it
200
years
ago.
S
Absolutely,
but
how
come
other
things
haven't
been
taking
in
consideration?
How
come
you
know?
Maybe
councilors
at
large
haven't
been
taking
consideration
term
limits
haven't
been
taken
in
consideration.
The
talk
about
efficiencies,
the
fact
that
we
have
to
run
to
the
province
to
have
door-to-door
sales
approved,
haven't
been
taken
in
consideration.
Is
that
efficiency
that
no
matter
what
we
decide
in
here.
If
we
want
include
install
red
light
cameras
in
our
streets,
we
have
to
go
and
grunt
for
the
province
and
actually
ask
for
authorization.
Let's
talk
about
efficiencies.
S
Let's
talk
about
governance,
but
let's
have
an
depth
conversation
about
it.
The
premier
put
a
pause
and
said
that
you
would
review
the
elections
of
chairs
in
the
GTA.
Why
didn't
the
same
thing
happen
to
us?
Why
didn't
we
put
a
pause
and
have
a
conversation
with
the
people
of
Toronto
with
the
stakeholders
about
how
to
govern
better
this
city
and
work
in
a
collaborative
way.
The
issue
in
here
is
timing
and
process.
Madam
Speaker,
it
is
timing.
S
Thousands
of
people
come
to
this
city
because
we
are
a
Democratic
Society.
We
are
in
the
middle
of
an
election
like
it
or
not.
There
might
not
be
signs
out
there
in
the
lawns,
but
May
first,
a
little
an
election
started.
We
needed
to
respect
that.
We
needed
to
understand
that
there's
a
process
going
on.
We
needed
to
understand
that.
If
we
want
to
change
fine,
you
might
even
hit
the
pause
button,
but
to
stop
it
to
say
all
of
us
say
it
a
sudden
we're
gonna
change
the
rules
in
the
middle
of
the
game.
S
Council
Purusha
talked
about
the
five
hundred
million
dollars
that
we
approved
in
here
or
were
about
to
approve
in
here,
because
we
change
the
rules
in
the
middle
of
the
game.
Otherwise
it
wouldn't
be
fair
for
those
business.
How
fair
is
it
for
the
people
of
Toronto
two
point,
eight
million
dollars
that
we
change
the
rules
to
them
in
the
belle
of
the
game.
S
I
wonder
what
businesses
are
thinking
is
this
the
way
that
we're
gonna
deal
with
the
city
and
this
progress
that
they
change
the
rules
in
the
middle
of
the
game?
This
is
the
largest
city
in
the
country.
This
is
the
biggest
economic
in
China
of
this
province.
What
is
the
impact
that
is
gonna
have
on
this
economy?
What
message
are
we
sending
to
people
out
there
to
business
out
there
that
we
change
the
rules
in
the
middle
of
the
game?
Who
cares
what's
happening?
It's
not
a
pause.
It's
move
ahead!
S
That's
what
we're
talking
about
efficiencies.
Let's
talk
about
efficiency.
Imagine
that
you
go
to
the
bank
tape
want
to
take
out
a
mortgage.
You
have
your
pre-approval,
the
president
of
the
Bank
changes
and
they
change
the
rules
on
you
can't
close
the
deal
any
person
that
wants
to
buy
a
house
they
can
relate
to
that
both
tell
them
that
their
pre
approval
mortgage
is
done.
We
change
the
rules,
we
change.
The
president
doesn't
apply
anymore.
That's
what
we're
talking
about
in
here!
S
That's
why
we're
saying
if
you
want
to
have
a
conversation
about
these
issues,
absolutely,
let's
have
it.
It's
needed.
The
city
grew
too
much.
We
can.
We
can
have
better,
better
government,
more
effective
government,
there's
so
much
that
we
can
work
with
this
province
on
in
making
sure
that
we
have
a
more
effective
Council.
But
let's
do
it
right.
Let's
do
it
with
the
people
of
Toronto:
let's
not
challenge
the
MOC
recei.
Let's
enhance
democracy
in
this
city.
M
M
I'll
just
start
by
saying,
I
think
it's.
It's
been
well
stated
that
the
process
here
lack
of
process
stinks
I,
think
we
all
know
that
I
also
think
it's
quite
clear.
What
is
you
know
how
cynical
this
move
in
this
decision
is,
but
I
also
understand
it's
easy
to
generate
talking
points
to
defend
it.
Of
course,
no
one
wants
more
politicians.
Of
course.
It's
easy
to
say
governments
dysfunctional,
easy,
easy
talking
points,
but
it
doesn't.
M
It
doesn't
discount
or
change
the
fact
that
the
process
has
been
absent
non-existent,
and
this
is
a
really
mean-spirited
and
cynical
move
and
hasn't
been
well
thought-out.
I
just
want
to
touch
on
one
subject
matter
for
my
eight
years
of
elected
office.
In
this
chamber
we
have
spent
hours
and
hours
specifically
talking
about
the
good
people
of
Scarborough
and
how
those
650,000
voters
don't
get
their
say.
They're
not
heard
they're
not
fairly
represented,
they
don't
get
what
the
others
there
do.
M
Have
six
counselors
the
city
of
Markham
just
to
the
north
is
gonna,
have
double
that
twelve
counselors
and
their
population
is
half
the
size
of
Scarborough,
and
so
for
me
to
spend
the
better
part
of
my
entire
political
career
to
be
told
and
lectured
and
actually
support
those
people,
all
the
decisions
I've
made
and
to
say
that
they
deserve
fair
representation.
They've
been
left
out,
give
them
fair
representation.
A
E
M
That
the
premier
did
it
to
just
one
city
rather
than
actually
thinking
that
the
premier
should
use
this
approach
in
all
circumstances,
I
think
we
all
recognize
that
it
was
strange
and
maybe
that's
why
I
said
means
mean-spirited
and
cynical
how
Toronto
was
exclusively
targeted
for
this
type
of
efficiency
in
fairness
that
might
be
brought
through
reduction
in
council
and
so
yeah
I
think
you're,
you're,
pretty
bang
on
and
sorry
I'm
trying
to
see
you
there
on
what
the
intentions
and
statement
behind
this
notion.
Asst.
Thank.
O
M
M
B
F
H
You
very
much
so
this
is
wrong
just
plain
wrong,
and
why
is
it
wrong?
The
premier
wants
to
save
money.
Apparently,
is
this
gonna
save
money?
We
are
already
in
the
middle
of
an
election.
We
have
spent
a
fortune
on
a
two-year
ward
boundary
review.
Then
we
spent
money
at
the
OMB
with
the
same
review.
We
are
doing
renovations
in
this
City
Hall.
In
our
on
the
second
floor,
we
are
already
renovating
for
three
new
offices,
bathrooms,
etc.
Everything
has
been
changed
and
changing
with
the
construction.
H
The
complicated
convoluted
nightmare,
logistics,
spiderweb
mess
of
unraveling
the
current
election
and
starting
the
next
election
is
colossal.
We
heard
that
from
fantastic
Ely
Waqas
the
other
day.
How
is
that
ever
going
to
happen?
Where
are
the
resources
who's
paying
for
that?
This
is
not
a
savings
of
money.
That's
wrong!
H
Is
this
about
customer
service
which
the
premier
and
his
late
brother
prided
themselves
in
relentlessly
endlessly
on
customer
service.
How
is
this
chopping
council
in
half
to
25
councillors?
How
is
that
delivering
on
that
customer
service?
How
are
you
picking
up
the
phone
and
answering
those
calls
for
now
double
triple
the
number
of
residents,
and
we
I've
heard
more
than
once
from
some
councillors
in
this
chamber.
You
just
need
to
work
harder
work,
harder.
I
am
never
home.
I
got
my
kids
a
dog
in
2010.
H
That
dog
doesn't
even
know
who
I
am
it's
friendlier
with
the
postman
I
work
12
to
15
hour
days,
I
have
borderline
heart
attack
most
days,
I
have
bi
ace,
counselor
holiday,
I
have
six
pi/8
I.
Have
forty
community
groups,
I
have
residents,
associations
I
represent
the
beach,
they
are
very
engaged
and
active.
We
have
an
immense
amount
of
events
in
the
ward,
every
Music
Festival
in
Woodbine
Park.
H
Every
weekend,
huge
40,000
people
coming
down
I
host
my
own
events,
movie
nights
markets,
you
name
it
I
am
out
there
we're
Touche
around
the
ward
on
my
bike
on
transit
here,
triking
anywhere
I
can
get
to
those
events.
I
have
condo
applications,
I
have
an
arena
board.
That's
undergoing
a
huge
revitalization
of
a
second
pad
I
have
a
ox
to
a
Ox
I
get
150
emails
a
day.
My
phone
doesn't
stop
ringing,
it
is
not
sleepy
Etobicoke
with
six
emails
a
day
and
no
no
groups.
G
G
R
I
echo
those
comments:
Etobicoke
lakeshore
is
now
the
largest
constituency
in
the
country
with
with
tremendous
amount
of
development
reinvestment
everywhere.
One
of
the
largest
industrial
pockets
in
the
entire
city
and
and
I
have
great
respect
for
triple
I.
Believe
me
when
I
say
that,
but
I
would
ask
that
that
comment
be
retracted.
I.
H
That's
what
I
mean
because
I
do
have
I
do
have
friends
in
Etobicoke.
Some
of
them
don't
know
who
their
councillor
is,
unfortunately,
because
they
don't
get
a
newsletter,
a
newsletter,
no
social
media,
no
Twitter
that
so
for
those
councillors
who
say
just
work
harder.
That
is
an
impossible
request.
I
really
want
to
do
a
Freaky
Friday
week
or
a
day
where
you
switch
me
roles
you
come
to
the
beach
you
represent.
The
beach
I
would
happily
go
to
a
peaceful
area
with
with
not
the
workload
that
I
have
in
my
area.
H
The
last
thing
I
will
say
is
that
this
is
this
is
wrong
because
we're
in
the
middle
of
an
election,
it
is
beyond
unfair.
You
have
tons
of
candidates
out
there
who
have
been
planning
for
this
for
years.
Maybe
they've
taken
a
Toastmaster
course
four
years
ago,
gearing
up
maybe
they've
reconfigured
their
childcare
or
their
own
career
they're,
taking
leaves
of
absence
from
their
jobs.
They've
quit
their
jobs,
they're
working
on
nothing
right
now
campaigning
for
the
greater
good
for
their
passion.
H
K
Thinking,
man
to
speaker,
I,
don't
have
a
lot
to
say
beyond
what
I
said
earlier
about
all
of
these
all
of
these
boards
and
commissions-
and
you
know
we're
gonna-
have
19
fewer
councilors
down
here,
and
it's
almost
like
all
of
these,
these
ports
and
Commission.
Don't
matter
so
much,
you
know
we
spent.
We
spent
the
better
part
of
a
day
or
three
quarter
or
half
a
day
talking
about
the
implications
of
the
financial
performance
in
the
compensation
at
Toronto
Hydro,
and
we
had.
K
We
had
a
couple
of
councillors
who
are
on
that
board
who
perform
great
work
there,
and
there
are
three
of
them
so
going
forward.
Whether
is
there
gonna
be.
Is
there
gonna
be
one
I
mean
this
is
this
is
not
so
different
from
what
councillor
quo
is
saying
if
I
municipalities,
having
just
one
you
know
having
one
one
councillor,
because
there's
only
one
federal
or
provincial
riding,
you
know
all
of
these
to
say
that
all
of
these
boards
and
commissions
aren't
important.
K
It's
already
difficult
getting
quorum
with
44
councillors,
I
wasn't
in
favor
of
going
to
47,
I'm
sure,
not
in
favor
of
going
to
25
and
I.
I
do
have
a
feeling
that
those
that
have
written
to
me
and
have
written
to
your
offices
that
have
said
that
they
are
in
favor
of
it.
Don't
really
know.
What's
involved
in
being
a
councillor,
I,
probably
don't
work
as
hard
as
a
councillor.
K
Mcmahon
I,
don't
have
I
mean
it
sounds
like
she's
working
15
hours
a
day,
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
working
15
hours
a
day,
but
this
is
when
this
job
is
done
fully
and
properly.
And
you
read
your
reports.
I
mean
a
lot
of
councillors,
don't
bother
to
read
reports
when
you
read
your
reports
and
you
show
up
at
meetings.
K
I
like
responding
to
emails
to
them,
I
like
connecting
with
them
through
enews
letters
and
newsletters
and
and
talking
to
them
on
the
phone
and
I,
know
that
I'm
much
busier
doing
that
than
my
local
MP
and
we
are
we're
the
grassroots
of
the
city
we
are.
We
are
what
people
come
to.
You
know,
I've
been
out
knocking
on
doors
and
you
know
I
would
say
every
fourth
or
fifth
or
somebody's
got
something
to
say.
You
know
they
want
to
talk
about.
K
What's
going
on
in
their
community
and
I'm,
really
learning
I'm
a
dapper
duck
down
here
before
now,
I
really
know
what
all
politics
is
local.
So
one
of
the
things
I
like
about
about
running
for
elections
in
the
current
setup
is
you
can
over
the
course
of
three
months
you
can
go
to
almost
every
street
in
the
ward.
Now
you
can
talk
to
people
and
I.
Remember
every
doorstep:
I
remember:
I've
cried
out
loud
I,
remember:
Croatian
mailboxes!
You
know
that
I've
seen
before
I,
remember,
I,
remember,
patios
and
walkways
and
I.
K
Remember
people
and
I.
Think
I.
Remember
this
conversation
four
years
ago.
Well,
now,
that's
almost
impossible.
What
are
you
going
to
start
campaigning
a
year
before
the
election
I
mean?
How
are
you
gonna?
How
are
you
gonna?
Have
that
connection
with
people?
Now
some
people
may
say
well,
there's
a
savings
of
money.
Well,
you
know
what
reality
is.
Listen,
I
think
the
job
we
do
is
fairly
important.
You
know
I'm
on
the
Budget
Committee
and
we
oversee
the
budget.
This
is
a
complex
organization.
This
isn't
just
about.
K
You
know
showing
up
and
getting
newsletter
member
motions.
This
is
a
complex
organization
where
we
have
to
hold
the
staff
to
account
for
the
actions
that
they
want
to
take,
and
you
know
I'm.
A
fiscal
conservative
I
also
would
also
believe
we
have
to
build
a
city
and
building
a
city
requires
oversight.
If
we
take,
you
know,
God
love
the
civil
service,
but
you
know
what.
K
If
we
take
away
the
oversight,
the
civil
service
motors
will
just
run
the
show
so
I
know
that
premier
Ford
wants
to
save
money,
but
in
the
end
this
might
wind
up
costing
money.
You
know
you're
gonna
have
you're
gonna
have
bloated
budgets,
you
know
you
know.
God
love
a
mirror
that
can
that
can
reign
in
the
civil
service
when
he
doesn't
have
the
troops
around
him
to
do
so.
So
this
could
line
up
costing
money
in
the
end
and
the
25
million
dollars
I
mean
that's
a
joke.
K
What
is
our
budget
11
billion
14
billion
when
you
roll
everything
in
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
rounding
error
on
somebody's
on
some
books,
so
the
savings
are
not
going
to
amount
to
a
hill
of
beans.
In
fact
they
they
might.
It
might
even
wind
up
costing
more
in
the
end
because
of
the
lack
of
proper
oversight,
so
I
think
I'm
pretty
clear
about
about
where
I
stand.
I
feel
sorry
really
for
the
citizens
of
Toronto,
because
you
know
that
personal
interaction
that
they've
had
with
us
is
gonna
be
gone.
K
There's
no
question:
it's
gonna
be
gone.
You
know
some
guy
just
said
to
me:
man
Tsering
an
email.
He
said.
Oh,
you
know
what
I
think.
This
is
really
great
and
I
said
back
to
me.
I
said:
well,
you
know
what
you
might
not
think
it's
so
great.
When
you
don't
get
a
proper
flyer,
you
don't
get
a
reply
at
all
and
that's
that's
probably
what's
gonna
happen
because
I'll
tell
you
what
the
25
remaining
councilors
you're
gonna,
be
in
meeting
after
meeting
after
meeting.
K
If
we
keep
the
same
makeup
either
that
or
you're
gonna
have
committees
with
four
people
on
them
and
then
good
luck
getting
warmer
even
going
to
the
bathroom
for
crying
out
loud.
You
know
so
so
I
don't
know
where
proper
oversight
is
going
to
come
with
25
people
in
an
organization
this
complex.
That's
what
I've
learned
down
Thank.
N
N
They
are
in
legislation,
they're
cast
in
law,
and
so
he
has
the
ability
to
do
this.
I
I
agree
that
you
know
we
would
have
loved
to
have
had
more
time,
but
we
don't,
and
so
what
do
we
do
when
I
compare
this
to
amalgamation?
It
was
a
process
then,
where
people
were
complaining
and
I
remember,
the
late
Frank
will
bear.
Who
was
adamant
that
this
should
never
happen
and
so
on,
and
that
Scarborough
and
other
places
in
the
city
would
not
be
well
well
served.
I
do
think.
N
Scarborough
scarborough's
well
served
contrary
to
some
of
the
comments
here
by
the
members
of
council
who
are
part
of
the
Scarborough
Council
Speaker
I
I
know
that
it
has
been
stated
and
I
have
been
very
clear
with
respect
in
my
position,
I'm
in
agreement
with
respect
to
what
it
actually
is
on
the
table.
What
the
premier
has
done,
I've
often
felt
that
council
was
too
large
and
council
needed
to
be
reduced.
N
I
didn't
land
on
25,
but
this
is
where
we
are
today
and
I'm
going
to
agree
on
25,
because
I
don't
actually
get
to
vote
on
it.
I
just
get
to
act
because
that's
the
premier
and
the
Legislature's
responsibility
to
make
that
particular
decision.
It's
not
my
decision.
My
decision
is
to
respond
and
do
what
I
can
I
did
spend
the
weekend.
Talking
to
many
of
my
constituents,
both
at
a
town
hall
that
I
attended
as
well
as
just
being
out
in
the
community.
N
Many
of
them
said
to
me
they
would
prefer
that
they
had
more
notice
and
more
time
they
got
that,
but
they
didn't
objectively
say
we
don't
want
to
see
a
reduction
with
respect
to
the
size
of
council.
I
do
think
that
there's
a
requirement
that
we're
going
to
have
whoever's
here
is
going
to
have
to
have
more
staff,
more
constituency
office
and
more
utilization
of
those
types
of
services.
N
There
are
a
number
of
different
models
in
terms
of
the
size
of
councils
and
how
they
work
and
the
different
structures.
I,
actually
don't
see
a
problem
that
the
city
of
Toronto's
new
structure
won't
actually
and
can't
be
on
this
particular
list
here
and
won't
work
in
the
best
interest
of
the
people.
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
I
will
run
against
my
good
colleague,
councillor
Glenda
bear
maker,
but
I
will
always
know
because
we've
been
friends
since
we
were
young
boys
will
always
be
friends,
no
matter
what
it
is.
N
Not
my
position
with
respect
to
whether
or
not
I
become
a
counsellor
and
odd.
It
is
the
people's
decision,
and
so
the
opportunity
will
be
afforded
us
if
we
choose
to
run
and
we
run
against
each
other,
that
one
of
us
will
win
and
one
of
us
will
lose,
but
the
rain
and
Sun
will
shine
the
next
day,
quite
frankly,
and
I'll
be
happy
about
that,
and
so
I
will,
if
I'm
successful,
be
able
to
come
back
and
work
harder
if
councillor
demerit
carries
such
I
would
support
him,
because
he
would
then
be
my
counsellor.
N
Quite
frankly,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
my
last
speech
here
speaker,
but
what
I
simply
want
to
say
is
this
the
Premier
and
council
and
and
the
legislature
is
making
a
decision
and
there's
nothing
that
I
can
see.
That
would
actually
cause
us
to
change
that,
in
spite
of
our
views
and
the
people
that
are
here
today,
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
this
is
going
to
proceed
very
similar
to
what
happened
with
respect
to
amalgamation.
Thank
you
thank.
R
R
Man
speaker
the
reason
I
bring
this
motion
forward
is
that
over
the
last
few
days,
the
former
chief
planner
to
the
city
registered
to
run
for
mayor
and
over
the
weekend
has
since
doubled
down
on
her
campaign,
pledge
that
the
city
secede
so
I
think
when
we
return
for
an
emergency
meeting.
The
solicitor
should
get
back
to
us
with
respect
to
the
validity
and
constitutionality
of
this
idea
and
what
the
ramifications
are.
Quite
frankly,
it's
it's
confusing
to
me.
I.
Think
members
of
council
need
to
know
I.
R
Think
members
of
the
public
need
to
know
myself.
I
would
much
rather
hear
about
transit
and
gun
violence
and
infrastructure
and
housing
during
the
next
three
months,
but
this
is
going
to
be
an
issue.
This
is
going
to
be
a
debate.
So
how
does
it
work?
How
many
politicians
should
a
new
province
of
3
million
people?
Have
that's
going
to
be
a
question?
R
Will
the
province,
let
us
keep
the
five
billion
dollars.
They've
promised
us
for
transit
or
the
hundred
eighty
million
dollars.
They
promised
us
for
smart
track.
Do
we
have
to
give
the
money
back
or
is
it
shovels
down?
You
know,
setting
up
ministries.
How
long
is
it
going
to
take
to
set
up
a
Ministry
of
Health?
R
R
You
know
agriculture,
food
security,
I
mean
I,
know
we
approve
backyard
chickens,
but
I
doubt
that
a
few
eggs
from
my
backyard
and
counselor
my
Havoc's,
is
going
to
feed
feed
the
city.
So
these
are.
These
are
really
important
questions
that
I'm
hoping
through
this
motion
when
we
come
back
for
an
emergency
council
session,
we'll
have
the
the
city
solicitor
be
able
to
answer
for
us,
I
mean
you
know,
there's
been
talk
about
strong
mayor
systems,
but
I
guess
some
people
are
just
looking
for
strong
sovereign
power
systems.
R
A
A
T
A
R
R
Madam
Speaker,
with
respect
to
what
we're
actually
debating
here
today,
I
just
want
to
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
here
for
some
reason,
we're
talking
about.
There's,
there's
been
a
lot
of
fear-mongering
over
the
last
day
and
a
half
on
this
issue,
the
language.
You
know
that
councilor
Cressey
used
on
Friday
that
the
people
will
suffer.
R
That's
language
of
fear,
mounted,
speaker,
I,
don't
see
a
difference
between
that
and
what's
going
on
in
the
United
States,
let's,
let's
be
reminded
that
this
process
was
initiated
for
one
primary
reason:
to
bring
voter
parity
to
voters
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
It
is
a
right
to
fairer
elections
that
this
process
was
undertaken.
It
did
not
happen
that
way.
Despite
what
the
OMB
said
remember,
that
is
a
body
that's
being
reformed
for
a
reason.
R
Okay,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
now
have
wards
that
have
a
50,000
person
difference
going
into
the
next
election.
That's
not
voter
parity
and
it's
not
fair
for
the
citizens
of
Toronto.
What
the
MIT
with
the
premier
has
done
will
bring
nearly
1
million
residents
of
Toronto
back
into
voter
parity,
where
their
vote
will
be
weighted,
the
same
as
everybody
else.
That
was
the
most
important
aspect
of
this
whole
process
moving
forward.
R
If
we
continue
to
adopt
the
federal
and
provincial
writing
boundaries,
we'll
never
have
to
go
through
this
expensive,
time-consuming
process
again,
because
the
wards
and
the
boundaries
will
change
every
10
years
forever.
It's
a
system
that
will
be
independent
and
will
certainly
work
better
for
residents
of
the
City
of
Toronto.
So
again
we're
voting
on
all
kinds
of
motions
here
today.
None
of
them
that
have
any
effect
on
what's
going
to
happen
over
the
next
couple
of
days,
I
think
we
should
all
get
ready
for.
R
Q
L
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker,
and
for
my
final
speech
at
this
for
this
council
term,
I'm
going
to
be
very
succinct
and
brief
and
I
am
going
to
move
a
motion
if
the
clerk's
could
put
it
up
on
the
screen.
So
this
motion
is
to
express
support
for
reducing
the
size
of
council
but
subject
to
the
province
conducting
a
binding
referendum.
So
I
am
on
record
clearly
on
record
favoring,
less
politicians
and
reducing
the
size
of
councilman,
so
I'm
not
about
to
stray
from
that
at
this
moment.
L
But
what
I
don't
agree
with
is
the
way
this
has
happened,
and
we've
heard
that
loud
and
clear
today
and
on
Friday
and
really
this
motion
is
a
variation
on
the
theme
of
the
mayor's
motion
that
he
put
forward
at
the
very
beginning
of
this
session,
as
well
as
councilor
holidays
motion.
So
this
is
a
timing
is
unfortunate.
It's
it's
far
from
ideal
I
think
it's
been
very
jarring
for
many
people
it
came
out
of
nowhere.
We
were
blindsided.
Nobody
had
a
sense
that
this
was
coming.
L
A
O
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Just
while
I
appreciate
in
principle
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
councillor
Robinson,
so
this
binding
arbitration
process
that
we
will
undergo,
or
at
least
the
city
one
to
go,
how
long
do
you
anticipate
bright,
binding
referendum?
How
long
do
you
anticipate
it'll
take
could
have
take
up
to
three
years
before
final
decisions
paint.
L
O
O
O
L
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
an
administrator
of
this
election,
so
that's
really
for
the
staff
to
determine
based
on
the
outcome
of
this
motion,
but
there's
all
sorts
of
options
before
us.
There's
also
the
option
of
delaying
the
election
by
a
period
of
time
to
accommodate
this
so
I'm,
not
about
to
you,
know,
weigh
in
on
that's
those
specific
technical
pieces,
but
there
I
think
there's
many
options
before
us.
Okay,.
O
I
just
want
to
clarify
what
that
I
understood
from
staff
that
they're
having
tremendous
problems
trying
to
come
up
with
an
implementation
plan
that
allows
them
to
put
together
a
ballots
of
candidates
running
in
time
for
the
October
22nd
deadline.
So
what
I
mean
but
I
understand
your
response
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that
I.
O
L
L
Mike's
cutoff
I,
don't
know
the
ins
and
outs
of
this.
What
I
do
know
is
that
I
put
for
it
I've
placed
a
motion
because
I'm
on
record,
saying
I
believe
in
a
reduced
council
size,
but
I
don't
like
that.
Like
the
way
this
is
unfolded,
and
so
I
would
like
to
ensure
that
there's
public
consultation
which
you
and
I
and
many
of
us
in
this
room
are
support
of.
We
all
believe
in
civic
engagement,
and
we
want
to
see
the
hear
the
voice
of
the
people
through
this
process.
L
So,
while
I
support
it
I,
just
don't
think
the
timing
is
a
right
and
I
think
this
is
a
far
from
ideal
scenario.
Thank
you
very
much,
councilor,
that's
very
helpful,
and
so
considering
that
a
question
has
not
been
can
properly
framed,
we
we
don't
have
it
and
acted
through
through
a
bylaw.
We
we
seem
to
have
missed
a
time
period
that
we
can
actually
get
a
question
out
before
the
the
electorate.
We
we
have
a.
L
Into
your
question,
actually
madam
Speaker
I'm
trying
to
set
it
because
no,
please
please,
if
you
allow
me
to
finish
my
answer,
I
will
get
to
it.
My
my
question,
hey.
My
question
is:
thank
you
very
much.
Councilman
LED.
My
question
is
considering
that
the
premier
has
has
said
all
of
that
and
said
that
there
is
not
going
to
be
another
random
because,
according
to
him,
he
has
already
held
one.
L
A
A
L
A
L
K
L
I'm,
saying
here
clearly
is
I
support
reduction,
this
size
of
counsel
I'm
on
public
record.
Having
said
that,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
this
process
of
the
way
it's
unfolded,
and
so
therefore
I'm
asking
for
a
binding
referendum
as
part
of
the
process,
so
the
people
of
Toronto
have
a
voice.
Thank
you.
B
I'm
just
reading
from
a
legislation
that
amends
the
City
of
Toronto
Act
to
provide
that
the
current
division
of
the
city
and
Awards
no
longer
applies
after
City
Council
and
then
repeals
parts
of
the
act.
I'm
sure
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
this
act
and
sets
the
nomination
day
for
September
14th.
B
So
I
would
suggest
that
this
referendum
would
have
to
be
before
September
14th
and
then
nation
day
I
see
counselor
hearts
nodding
his
head
in
because
you
would
you
agree,
you
can't
have
an
election
on
October
22nd
have
a
referendum
that
says
we
don't
like
25
wards
and
that
somehow
it's
binding
this
would
be
more
chaos
than
we're
currently
facing.
So.
L
B
A
E
L
Yours,
what
is
mine
is
if
the
clerk's
could
put
it
up
on
the
screen,
objectify,
succinct
and
clear
that
we
that
I
do
support
a
reduction
in
council
voted
that
way
a
last
last
time.
We
as
a
council
voted
on
this
and
so
get
back,
given
that
I
do
think,
there's
a
process
that
needs
to
unfold
as
part
of
this
and
so
I'm
asking
for
that
binding
referendum
to
be
part
of
this
process,
and
so.
L
E
A
N
You
very
much
madam
chair,
through
you
and
to
the
councillor
I,
don't
mean
to
belabor
this
point,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
this,
so
this
binding
referendum
does
the
result
matter
with
respect
to
the
support
of
the
25,
because
the
way
I
read
this,
it
seems
to
suggest
that
we
should
have
the
referendum
and
the
results
is
immaterial.
It
doesn't
express
to
me
that
the
results,
either
yay
or
nay,
is
important.
It's
just
the
fact
of
the
referendum
being
taking
place
so.
L
L
So
absolutely
that's
what
you've
stated
and
I've
heard
that
elsewhere
right?
Having
said
that,
my
issue,
councillor
Thompson,
is
simply
this
I
do
I,
do
fully
support
a
reduction
in
the
as
a
council
have
for
since
the
dawn
of
time.
Having
said
that,
I
do
think
it
would
be
really
important,
as
part
of
the
process
to
include
a
reference
to.
A
N
D
L
Absolutely
that's
my
that's.
The
first
part
of
my
motion,
the
first
part
of
my
emotion,
and
why,
even
prior
to
being
a
city,
councillor
I
felt
that
this
was
a
necessary
step
that
it
would
I
think
make
for
a
much
more
effective
civil
service.
Bureaucracy
is
not
a
word
I
like
to
use,
but
civil
service
and
public
service
I
think
it
would
inspire
a
lot
of
public
servants
to
work
towards
customer
service
efficiencies
effectiveness.
So,
having
said
that,
I
do
also
believe
that
it
would
be
good
to
participate
in
this
process.
L
D
L
There
was
hundreds
of
reports
on
just
if
you
use
transportation
services
alone.
Hundreds
of
reports
were
requested
this
term,
not
all
of
them
actually,
as
you
know,
being
sitting
on
the
committee
I'm,
not
all
of
them
came
to
fruition
and
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
those
next
term,
but
they
felt
very,
very
overwrought
with
a
number
of
requests
for
reports
and
simply
couldn't
process
them
in
an
expedient
way.
Thank.
D
Q
A
Q
Q
Does
that
mean
that
the
clerk
has
to
prepare
for
both
of
those
elections
and
that
I
have
to
you
know?
I
currently
have
a
website
Gord,
perks,
18,
because
I
would
be
running
and
word
18
in
the
new
rule
so
after
go
in
and
put
in
a
hundred
bucks
to
register
for
Gord
perks,
Parkdale
High
Park
and
run
both
campaigns
at
the
same
time
until
the
referendum
decides,
which
one
is
happening
or
do
I
simply
not
campaign
and
the
clerk
not
prepare
until
September.
First,
if
you
could
just
help
me
understand
that
I.
L
L
A
lot
of
that
work
has
been
done
in
the
last
probably
18
months
to
two
years
as
part
and
parcel
of
the
province
of
Ontario's
elections,
team,
so
I
think
the
clerk's
have
fitnah,
maybe
not
faced
this
type
of
challenge
before,
but
I'm
sure
that
they
have
like
they
did
during
the
appeal
process
of
this
undertaking
develop
two
sets
of
plans.
That's
not
uncommon,
they
were
just.
L
Q
Appreciate
that
thinking,
but
you
know,
given
that
the
clerk
said
that
actually
a
municipal
election
isn't
the
same
thing,
we
can't
use
the
same
voters
list
because
we
have
to
look
at.
For
example,
if
people
are
registered
with
the
French
school
system
or
the
Catholic
school
system,
and
that
the
word
boundaries
of
the
trustees
won't
be
the
same
as
the
federal
and
provincial
Ward
boundaries.
We
can't
simply
use
that.
So,
given
that
the
clerk
has
said
the
scenario
you
just
described
can't
possibly
happen,
do
you
still
think
we
should
prepare
for
two
elections
simultaneously?
L
What
I
would
do
so?
This
has
been
a
surprise
for
all
of
us.
As
I
said
in
my
opening
comments,
we've
been
blindsided,
nobody
knew
about
this
in
the
chamber
and
we're
all
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
adapt
and
modify
and
work
our
way
through
this.
So
my
response
to
you
would
be
you're.
Welcome
to
amend
my
motion
or
modify
it
I
would
be
open
to
friendly
amendments.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
T
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
and
I'm
just
gonna
echo
a
few
things
that
were
said
by
my
colleagues
and
I
too,
had
heard.
Obviously
during
when
premier
Ford
was
running,
and
also
right
after
the
election
that
the
year
there
was
a
move
to
reduce
council
to
25,
but
I
had
also
heard
that
it
was
in
2022.
I
had
not
heard
that
it
was
at
all
during
this
election
and
that
there
would
definitely
not
be
enough
time.
T
There's
there's
many
concerns
that
I
have
I
remember
when
we
go
back
to
the
ward
boundary
review
that
we've
done
and
the
in-depth
review
that
we
did
and
I
too
actually
considered
the
reduction
of
council
just
because
I
think
that
it
would
be
more
efficient
and
more
effective.
But
having
worked
federally
and
provincially.
The
issue
is
that
the
issues
are
different
and
any
of
us
that
have
worked
federally
and
provincially
know
that
the
number
one
issue
federally
that
any
of
us
are
any
of
the
MPs,
are
dealing
with
his
immigration.
T
T
If
we're
moving
towards
that
new
model,
I
think
that
it
would
have
been
better
to
have
a
review
during
this.
Let's
say
the
next
term
of
council
that
gives
us
44
years.
I
mean
there's
so
many
aspects
of
it
from
the
boards,
the
ABCs,
the
administrative
body.
How
we're
going
to
do
that
I
know
so
many
peopie's
Lorenzo
had
told
me
about
all
about
amalgamation.
He
was
a
cherubim
men.
T
What
last
one
went
I
know
many
of
you
I
heard
many
many
many
many
stories
about
amalgamation
and
what
everybody
who
was
here
at
the
time
went
through
and
how
admin
committee
was
set
up
and
how
the
amalgamation
process
went.
So
in
setting
up
a
council
and
looking
at
our
committees
and
how
that
would
have
to
function.
T
T
I
was
speaking
with
a
few
of
my
colleagues
this
morning
about
possibly
and
reaching
out
to
the
premier
and
trying
to
get
a
movement
of
that
date,
at
least
so
that
the
clerk's
can
get
this
done
in
a
timely
manner,
because
I'm
concerned
about
the
fair
endemic
rata
process,
so
I
also
support
the
mayors
and
and
councillor
Robinson's
motion
about
a
referendum.
I
think
that
that's
that
would
have
been
again
something
that
we
would
have
undertaken.
T
I
think
that
it's
something
that
that
would
have
been
prudent
to
do
on
this
ballot,
this
election
and
then
move
into
a
different,
different
type
of
governance
in
2022.
So
with
that
I'm
not
going
to
continue
on
I,
just
I
know
that
we're
going
to
get
to
voting-
and
it's
again
my
last
speech
here
in
in
this
term
of
counsel
and
I,
just
hope
that
everything
runs
smoothly
unless
we're
called
back
for
some
emergency
counsel
in
the
interim.
Thank
you
so.
A
R
We
have
two
separate
motions
concerning
legal
action
on
the
table
to
be
and
for
having
spoken
with
the
city.
Solicitor
I've
been
advised
that
the
strongest
course
of
legal
action
is
motion
for
by
councillor
Fletcher,
so
with
that
I
can
be
withdrawing
to
be
so
long
as
accounts
counselor
pleasure
you're,
not
withdrawing
for
right,
no
okay.
So
as
long
as
one
of
those.