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City Council, meeting 47, September 13, 2018 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
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Part 2 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7sqBddf9iE#t=11m42s
Meeting Navigation:
0:15:41 - Call to order
1:38:25 - Public Session
A
B
A
We
acknowledge
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
that
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit.
The
handi
should
not
be
the
Chippewa,
the
Hutt
nashoni
in
the
wind
up
peoples
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations
Inuit
and
made
tea
peoples.
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto
is
covered
by
treaty.
Thirteen
with
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit
for
the
benefit
of
those
who
are
connected
to
the
Internet.
The
city
clerk
has
posted
all
of
the
agenda
materials
for
today's
meeting
that
wgr
on
OCA
/
council.
A
This
special
meeting
of
council
was
called
for
the
following
purposes:
to
discuss
the
Ontario
government,
reintroduction
of
a
bill
to
reduce
the
size
of
Toronto,
City,
Council
and
use
of
section
33
of
the
Canadian
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms
to
exempt
this
bill
from
judicial
review
to
introduce
an
enact
a
confirming
bylaw
for
the
special
meeting
members
of
council.
As
this
is
a
special
meeting
under
councils
procedures,
no
new
business
items
such
as
notices,
emotions
may
be
introduced.
This
rule
cannot
be
waived.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest.
A
A
Okay,
we
will
not
review
and
confirm
the
order
paper
once
your
the
paper
has
been
approved
by
council.
Any
change.
We
need
a
two-thirds
vote.
We
have
one
item
before
us.
The
city
solicitor
has
submitted
a
supplementary
report
on
this
item,
which
has
been
placed
on
members
desks.
Council
will
recessed
between
12:30
and
2:00
p.m.
and
from
6:00
to
6:30.
We
are
scheduled
to
meet
until
8:00
p.m.
tonight.
Council
will
reconvene
tomorrow
9:30,
if
necessary,
all
those
in
favor
of
adopting
the
order
paper
recorded
vote.
E
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
and
good
morning.
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment,
as
I
did
the
last
time
we
had
one
of
these
special
meetings
to
explain,
especially
to
the
public
and
those
watching
at
home
or
at
work.
The
nature
and
purpose
of
this
meeting
I
have
today
convened
a
special
meeting
of
City
Council
to
discuss
the
reintroduction
of
a
provincial
bill
to
reduce
the
size
of
Toronto
City
Council,
which
includes
the
provinces
planned
to
use
section
33
of
the
Canadian
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms
to
exempt
this
bill
from
judicial
review.
E
We
then
sought
a
remedy
on
behalf
of
our
city
in
the
courts,
which
are
an
indispensable
part
of
our
overall
democratic
system,
standing
as
they
do
as
the
guardians
of
overreaches,
which
can
take
place
even
with
democratically
elected
governments.
The
City
of
Toronto,
together
with
other
applicants,
were
successful
together
in
convincing
the
court
to
find
bill
five,
contrary
to
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms,
now
we're
confronted
with
a
new
reality
that
the
province
is
preparing
to
invoke
the
notwithstanding
Clause
to
push
through
this
legislative
change
right
now.
E
Not
only
is
this
unprecedented
in
the
history
of
Ontario
and
an
unacceptable
process,
but,
more
importantly,
I
believe
that
this
overriding
of
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms
raises
very
big
questions
on
a
matter
such
as
this
one
and
even
bigger
questions
with
regard
to
profoundly
important
matters
that
we
may
not
even
know
about
today.
That
will
come
up
in
the
future
and,
as
such,
I
think
this
is
an
entirely
proper
and
necessary
meeting
for
us
to
hold.
Now.
E
He
told
tbo
tbo
hosts
Steve
Paikin
this
week
that
the
not
and
I
quote
the
notwithstanding
provision
has
understandably
rarely
been
used
because
of
the
primacy
of
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms
for
all
Canadians.
He
went
on
to
say
premier
Davis
did
that
it
might
now
be
used
regularly
that
it
might
now
be
used
regularly
to
assert
the
dominance
of
any
government
or
elected
politician
over
the
rule
of
law
or
the
legitimate
jurisdiction
of
our
courts.
Of
law
was
never
anticipated
or
agreed
to
wise
words.
E
That
I
hope
will
guide
us
in
this
debate
that
we're
gonna
have
today.
So
everyone
in
the
public
is
aware
we
will
shortly
in
all
likelihood
vote
to
go
into
camera
to
discuss
the
confidential
legal
advice
of
the
city
solicitor
related
to
this
bill
and
I
trust.
The
members
of
the
public
and
those
watching
us
online
will
understand
that
legal
advice
is
discussed
confidentially
because
it
often
includes
an
analysis
of
the
strengths
and
weaknesses
of
the
city's
own
legal
position
before
we
go
into
camera.
E
Finally,
I
will
just
say,
madam
Speaker,
that
I
know
we're
all
here
today
to
keep
standing
up
for
Toronto
and
I
know
we're
all
prepared
to
continue
to
do
that,
because
we
believe
in
this
city
and
even
more
importantly
than
that,
we
believe
in
the
almost
three
million
people
who
live
here
and
we
believe
in
our
ability
to
chart
a
responsible
course
for
the
city
that
we
all
serve.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
B
Council
recess
it's
public
session
to
meet
as
committee
of
the
whole
in
closed
session,
to
consider
CC
47
point
1,
discussion
of
the
reintroduction
of
a
bill
to
reduce
the
size
of
Toronto
City
Council
on
the
use
of
section
33
of
the
Canadian
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms
to
exempt
this
bill
from
judicial
review
reason
for
confidential
information,
litigation
of
potential
litigation
that
affects
the
City
of
Toronto
and
advice
for
advice
or
communications
that
are
subject
to
solicitor.
Client
privilege.
Thank.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
This
meeting
is
now
resumed.
City
council
has
completed
its
closed
session.
Consideration
of
item
CC
47
point
1
had
a
discussion
of
the
reintroduction
of
a
bill
to
reduce
the
size
of
Toronto
City
Council
in
the
use
of
section
33
of
the
Canadian
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms.
To
exempt
this
bill
from
judicial
review.
No
no
motions
were
placed
in
the
closed
session.
We
will
not
proceed
to
the
public
debate
on
the
matter.
We
have
any
public
questions
if
you
can
put
it
your
name
up,
request
to
question
staff
counts
their
Davis
I,
wonder.
G
The
provincial
government
has
appealed
justice,
Bella
Baba's
decision
on
bill,
5
bill
5
and
bill
31
are
very
similar.
They
do
they
both
would
reduce
the
size
of
council
to
25.
So
just
to
be
clear
in
the
context
of
an
appeal.
The
prior
ruling
remains
in
force
unless
there's
a
stay.
What
the
stay
does
is
it
effectively
puts
the
ruling
under
appeal
on
hold
until
the
appeal
has
worked
its
way
through
the
courts,
but
that's
see
that's
what
this
day
application
is
about
bill.
G
F
F
G
F
G
F
There
has
been
commentary
about
whether
or
not
there
are
other
options
to
pursue
in
relation
to
bill
31.
Could
you
I
guess
you
can't
explain
your
advice,
but
there
are
processes
that
can
unfold.
For
instance,
the
parties
can
challenge
the
legality
of
of
bill
31
that
correct.
Maybe
you
can
just
explain
that
so
people
understand
that.
F
F
A
F
You
I
asked
a
series
of
questions,
miss
vodkas
about
a
scenario
whereby
a
stay
might
be
granted
by
the
courts
prior
to
bill
31
achieving
if
it
does
a
Royal
Assent,
and
in
that,
in
that
case
we
would
revert,
I
understand
from
the
city
solicitor
to
back
to
a
25
Ward
model
and
the
date
for
registration
of
September
14.
Will
you
allow
those
applicants
or
candidates
who
have
not
yet
registered?
Who
were
waiting
for
a
decision?
Will
you
allow
them
to
register
this
week?
F
D
Is
I
believe
a
legal
question
once
the
stay
comes
into
effect,
you're,
correct,
counselor,
that
we
are
back
in
a
25
Ward
model?
However
I
don't
know
what
is
permissible
if
the
date
in
the
regulation,
under
the
bill
talks
about
September,
the
14th
or
whatever
it
was,
that's
simply
not
possible
for
me
to
change.
A
D
D
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
My
question
is
also
to
the
clerk
I
know.
Many
councillors
are
frustrated
with
this
process
and
that
they
feel,
like
the
government
of
Ontario,
wants
to
run
things
here.
What
would
happen
if,
in
response,
all
members
of
council,
including
the
mayor,
resigned
in
protests
who
would
be
in
charge.
H
H
G
C
Thank
you
very
much.
I
have
a
question
for
the
clerk
and
a
question
for
the
solicitor,
the
issue
of
advanced
voting
first
to
the
clerk,
the
issue
of
advanced
voting.
Many
of
us
have
folks
who
basically
leave
or
will
not
be
available
on
October
22nd,
and
they
are
starting
to
be
concerned
about
their
ability
to
vote.
Recognizing
that
you
are
in
a
pickle,
and
you
know
you
deserve
all
the
credit
support
therapy
that
you
need
to
to
whether
this
this
particular
time.
Can
you
just
give
us
some
indication
of
how
you
hope
to
manage
that.
D
The
bill
31
has
provided
up
is
now
containing
a
provision
if
it's
passed
that
would
give
to
the
clerk
the
discretion
not
to
hold
an
advance
vote.
I
believe
that
that
would
result
in
an
election.
That
is
not
fair.
That
does
not
meet
the
principles
of
the
Act.
That
does
not
meet
any
integrity
of
process,
because
I
mean
campaign,
workers
are
workers.
C
D
C
You
very
much
for
that
answer
to
the
solicitor
in
general
terms,
without
speaking
to
the
purple
paper,
there
is
a
federal
authority
called
the
the
power
of
disallowance.
Can
you
speak
to
that
in
a
general
way
and
what
what
the
not
ask
says,
City
Council,
but
the
federal
government
if
it
chose
to
exercise
that
what
it
would
look
like.
G
There
is
a
federal
power
of
disallowance
that
allows
the
federal
government
to
effectively
Trump
an
exercise
of
provincial
power
to
enact
legislation.
It
has
rarely
been
used,
so
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
examples
to
look
at
the
last
time
it
was
used
was
in
the
40s,
but
it
still
exists.
It's
still
on
the
books.
The
exercise
of
that
power
is,
of
course,
entirely
out
of
our
control
and.
C
C
There
is
nothing
that
nothing
there
is
no,
that
that
actually
is
the
final
recourse
would
that
be.
Would
that
be
fair
to
say
when
the
federal
government
feels
that
inappropriate
and
undue
an
inappropriate
decision
was
made
in
using
a
notwithstanding
Clause
or
a
severe
challenge
to
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms
was
undertaken
by
any
provincial
government
that
they
can?
They
really
have
that
power
to
step
in
and
set
it
right
when
they
feel
the
national
interest
is
at
stake.
C
C
G
C
G
I
I
I
I
D
D
I
I
D
D
I
D
I
I
certainly
do
not
envy
your
position
in
this
mess.
Final
question
spending
limits.
We
were
given
an
initial
spending
limit
based
on
47
awards
that
we're
getting
another
spending
limit
based
on
25
wards.
It's
another
letter
going
out
based
on
47
wards,
or
are
we
gonna
get
a
final
spending
limit
or
what
is
that
another?
That.
D
A
J
J
K
J
D
J
There's
another
date
that
is
important
to
as
the
September
27
date
for
signs
for
election
signs.
Have
you
had
situations
in
which,
before
nominations
open
for
a
new
set,
so
in
case
we
were
going
with
47
model
and
the
candidates
have
put
their
signs
out
on
27
based
on
that
model?
What
would
happen?
October
1st
I.
J
You
I
just
I,
mean
I,
know
you're
doing
what
you
are
more
than
what
you
need
to
be
in
this,
but
I
also
asking
this
question
to
get
clarification
for
public
to
see
what
kind
of
confusions
are
there.
So
if
somebody
who
is
in
a
ward
that
is
only
half
of
their
current
war
and
the
47
model,
they
would
be
putting
up
signs
and
twice
their
area
with
numbers
that
are
not
going
to
be.
There
are
going
to
be
different
if
legislation
passes.
B
Thank
You
Madame,
chair
through
you
to
the
clerk
and
I,
was
wondering
about
the
you
mentioned.
You
you've
you've
sought
out
independent
counsel
for
legal
advice
in
terms
of
the
ability
to
hold
a
fair
and
democratic
election.
I.
Remember
when
we
were
asking
questions
originally,
and
you
would
mention
this
and
given
the
list
that
you
provided
to
counsel,
which
seemed
a
lot
very,
it
would
seem
almost
insurmountable
for
you
to
move
forward
and
implement
all
of
that
and
now
with
with
it,
going
back
in
it,
going
going
back
and
forth,
I'm
wondering
what
is
legal.
B
D
B
D
B
L
L
L
We
are
very
concerned
about
engaging
our
youth
everyone,
but
especially
our
youth
in
the
political
process,
and
many
of
them
have
gone
away
to
travel
or
to
college
or
university,
and
so
the
proxy
votes
forms
were
not
available
before
they
went
away
so
I.
Just
if
you
could
take
us
through
the
process
of
when
those
forms
will
be
available,
because
at
this
point
we
will
have
to
mail
them
to
our
youth.
They
have
to
sign
them.
We
have
to
somehow
get
them
back
here,
mailed
back
possible,
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
scan
them.
D
This
is
getting
to
be
very
concerning
to
us,
because
people
no
longer
have
candidate
lists
that
are
entirely
reliable
under
whatever
the
circumstance
of
the
day
is,
and
we
have
equal
concerns
about
about
that.
That
is
why
we
had
initially
received
a
request
from
Council
to
hold
advance
votes
over
the
Thanksgiving
weekend,
which
is
no
longer
possible.
L
So
so
that's
a
problem
and
then
of
course,
for
students
who,
for
example,
my
daughters
at
the
University
of
British,
Columbia
she's
not
coming
home
for
Thanksgiving
and
many
students
are
not
coming
back
for
Thanksgiving,
so
that
would
have
even
helped
them.
But
you
so
are
we
still
able
to
send
out
the
proxy
forms?
September
17th
were
not.
L
D
L
M
Ma'am
speaker
with
respect
to
bill
31
I,
have
it
in
front
of
me
in
the
SEC
in
the
subsections.
It
makes
reference
many
times
to
that
to
the
fact
that
the
amendments
of
this
act
made
by
such
schedule,
three
surge
or
two
of
the
efficient
Local
Government
Act
apply
despite
the
Human
Rights
Code.
Can
you
unpack
that
sentence
for
me.
M
M
Answer
is
yes,
okay,
so
so
in
every
section
of
bill
31,
it
specifically
outlines
that
this
bill
should
override
the
Human
Rights
Code
and
and
with
respect
to
the
accessibility
for
Ontarians
with
Disabilities
Act,
because
you
know
I'm
the
chair
of
that
the
Truong
accessibility,
Advisory
Committee,
our
committee
was
was
consulted
quite
broadly,
as
well
as
the
advocates
of
those
who
advocate
for
accessible
voting,
accessible
election
planning.
A
lot
of
work
was
done
leading
up
to
this
election,
and
the
clerk's
may
want
to
pay
attention
to
this
question
as
well.
M
There
was
a
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
nine-day
period
around
the
voting
accommodations
for
people
living
with
requiring
accommodations
for
voting.
How
is
that
nine-day
period
now
affected
for
that
community,
because
we've
now
shrunk
the
advanced
voting
period,
you
may
even
get
rid
of
it
all
together.
Do
we
even
have
time
to
accommodate
those
nine
days
that
was
outlined
in
the
Municipal
Elections
Act.
N
Through
the
speaker,
as
the
clerk
said
earlier,
we
have
had
to
reduce
our
advanced
vote
dates,
given
the
circumstances
we're
finding
ourselves
in
so
originally,
we
had
planned
on
doing
nine
days
of
advance
vote
and
we've
now
reduced
it
to
five
days
of
advance
vote.
The
clerk
actually
has
discretion
on
how
many
advanced
states
she
sets
and
the
times
and
locations.
The
clerk
is
very
committed
to
accessibility
in
elections,
and
that's
been
one
of
the
key
activities
that
we've
put
a
lot
of
effort
into.
N
We
still
feel
confident
in
a
five-day
advance
vote
period
that
we're
still
meeting
our
accessibility
requirements.
We
are
piloting
a
home
visit
program
for
the
first
time
in
Toronto
this
election.
That
was
also
supposed
to
be
for
nine
days
pursuant
to
the
advance
vote
schedule
and
it
will
be
reduced
to
five
days.
However,
we
have
had
the
ability
to
double
up
our
schedule
and
feel
confident.
We
could
still
conceivably
serve
the
same
number
of
electors
in
that
reduced
time
period.
So.
M
There's
confidence
that
that
the
voters
who
were
who
were
supposed
to
be
served
under
the
nine
day
program
for
home
voting,
those
who
are
living
with
who
require
accommodations
and
who
are
living
with
disabilities.
But
is
there
st.
the
same
level
of
confidence
of
delivering
the
fair
and
free
elections
for
voters
who
are
not
requiring
the
home
visiting
program?.
N
M
G
This
bill
is
a
pretty
piece
of
provincial
legislation.
The
Human
Rights
Code
is
also
a
piece
of
provincial
legislation,
so
through
this
bill
it
is
possible
for
the
province
to
create
a
provision
trumping
something
in
the
Human
Rights
Code.
So
they
look
different
than
a
constant
human
rights
cause
a
little
different
than
the
Constitution.
That
way,
yeah.
M
G
O
A
O
Hole
through
to
the
clerk
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
clarity.
Madam
clerk,
you
had
mentioned
before
that
you
have
voter
cards
prepared,
so
consider
syns
still
expect
to
get
a
voter
card.
I
just
want
to
get
this
to
some
really
clear
messages,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
questions
out
there
from
citizens,
never
mind
what
councillors
have
about.
What's
going
on.
P
N
The
speaker,
one
of
our
contingency
plans,
councillor
given
the
uncertainty
in
the
election,
is
we
have
moved
forward
to
produce
print
and
distribute
two
sets
of
voter
formation
cards
under
both
a
47
and
25
ward
scenario.
We
have
not
yet
posted
those.
Our
plan
was
to
hope
for
some
certainty
in
the
coming
days,
so
that
we
knew
which
voter
information
card
we
should
be
distributing
to
the
public.
We
continue
to
monitor
and
we'll
pull
the
trigger
accordingly.
Once
we
have
some
certainty
before.
O
Either
way
citizens
get
a
voter
car
to
directs
them
to
go
to
some
voting
place.
I
think
I
heard
the
clerk
say
that
they
were
generally
going
to
be
similar
voting
places,
but
citizens
will
follow
what
the
card
says
just
like
it
was
in
last
election,
so
that
really
hasn't
changed.
Is
it
fair
to
say
that,
depending
on
how
bill
5:31
court
challenges
stays
play
out,
the
contents
of
the
ballot
will
be
different
when
they
get
to
the
voting
place?
N
O
N
Through
the
speaker,
we
have
been
receiving
that
question
from
a
number
of
candidates,
members
of
the
public
in
the
media
and
our
answer.
At
this
stages.
We
are
administering
the
election
under
47
word
model
pursuant
to
the
Superior
Court
decision,
and
the
MEA
requires
that
only
certified
candidates
technically
should
be
campaigning
at
this
point
in
time,
particularly
if
they're
raising
and
spending
money
right,
okay
and.
O
D
O
Are
the
if
you,
if
I
may
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
if
I
could
just
explain
a
little
bit
better
what
the
uncertainties
are
because
I
think
that's
the
heart
of
my
question:
what
are
the
things
that
are
uncertain?
That
voters
should
be
paying
attention
to
over
the
next
few
days
if
they
are
continuing
to
receive
information
and
they
will
get
a
voter's
card
which
tells
them
one
way
or
another
where
to
go
and
vote?
That
was
your
last
question.
A
D
The
uncertainty
that's
out
there
as
people
don't
know
which
ward
they're
in
they
are
following
this
debate
and
getting
different
issues
raised
every
single
day
about
who's
running
where
they're
running
where
they
are,
where
they
vote,
we're
getting
those
phone
calls
and,
frankly
it's
it's.
The
uncertainty
is
making
this
very
difficult.
K
You,
madam
Speaker,
to
through
you
to
the
clerk
I,
do
not
envy
your
position.
Ladies
question
is
as
follows:
if
we
are
in
a
scenario
that
were
in
today,
which
is
in
flux
and
September,
the
27th
around
and
signs
go
up,
we
are
right
now,
there's
no
place
that
we
can
I
mean
there's
no
restrictions
as
to
where
we
can
campaign
distribute
literature.
Would
there
be
restrictions
on
signs
and
where
signs
are
placed.
D
K
Chair
number
one:
would
you
be
able
to
put
my
time
and
hold
and
call
in
the
sign
law
by
people
because,
like
I
mean
if
we're
gonna
be
placing
signs
in
another
area
outside
where
we're
running?
What
is
the
result
of
that?
So
can
you
please
put
many
time
on
hold
and
maybe
we
can
contact
the
sign
viola.
People
play
okay.
A
Q
So
of
the
clerk,
madam
clerk,
it's
kind
of
following
even
on
that
last
question,
but
if
you
are
not,
can
I
if
you
are
not
a
registered
candidate
under
the
47,
which
I
understand
is
where
you
would
had
to
have
registered
now
to
be
a
candidate?
Can
you
raise
any
money?
Can
you
spend
any
money,
can
you
campaign,
or
can
you
do
nothing
until
legislation
comes
in
to
permit
the
new
ward
boundaries,
the.
Q
Q
A
Q
My
time
was
running
when
I
wasn't
able
to
get
a
question
see
if
you
could
hold
it
for
30
seconds
or
something
I'd
appreciate
it.
Madam
clerk
I'm
trying
to
get
clarification
if
you're
not
registered
in
the
47
wars
election,
which
is
all
that
we
have
right
now,
I
mine,
correct,
you
cannot
spend
money,
you
cannot
put
out
it
for
sure.
You
cannot
put
out
a
note
on
a
door.
You
cannot
canvass.
You
can't
have
a
campaign
office.
You
can't
have
a
telephone
because
you're
not
a
candidate.
Is
that
correct?
Q
Q
C
D
R
L
Q
I
guess
the
other
question
then
is
this
is
well.
This
is
a
very
without
a
confusing
situation.
What
could
the
provincial
government
do
so
you
don't
have
a
nervous
breakdown
and
I
don't
mean
it
that
way.
But
what
could
the
provincial
government
I
apologize
but
I
know
how
frustrated?
Oh,
what
could
the
provincial
government
do
to
help
alleviate
the
current
situation
and
make
it
get
better.
Q
Q
D
Q
Q
D
Q
N
Q
D
Q
B
B
N
The
speaker
as
the
clerk
and
I
have
said
earlier,
we
are
definitely
reaching
a
tipping
point.
I
think
that
every
day
matters
right
now
in
our
election
planning,
we
are
less
than
five
weeks
out
from
Election
Day.
We
we
are
seeking
third
party
independent
legal
counsel
and
in
terms
of
what
our
next
steps
are
in
the
public
interest.
I,
don't
think
we're
at
a
point
where
we
can
comment
on
that
counsel.
Then
my.
B
D
H
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
actually
have
a
question
from
one
of
my
residents.
Holly
is
watching
this
procedure
first,
what
she
wants
to
know
what
Ward
she'll
end
up
in,
but
I
will
deal
with
that
one.
She
would
like
to
know
that.
Will
there
be
a
report
coming
to
this
council
an
audited
report
coming
to
this
council
which
will
detail
the
additional
expenses?
The
city
is
incurring
with
this
debacle,
with
the
duplication
with
having
to
be
running
to
elections
at
the
same
time.
D
H
D
H
K
Good
morning,
thank
you,
madam
Speaker
Madam's
figures
through
you
to
staff.
We
were
told
by
the
clerk
that
we
can
campaign,
regardless
of
where
we're
registered
and
if
we
want
to
go
outside
the
boundaries
of
4:47
that
there's
no
restrictions.
However,
my
question
is
on
the
27th.
We
will
be
allowed
to
put
up
signs.
The
same
question
is
right:
now
we
can
campaign
outside
the
47
scenario.
J
K
J
K
Thank
you
appreciate
it
through
you,
madam
chair,
to
to
the
clerk
further
question
and
when
I
thank
the
staff
from
MLS
for
addressing
that
issue.
If
we're
running
under
scenario,
25
we're
able
to
spend
extra
amount
of
money
if,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
were
running
under
47,
but
we
spend
that
extra
money
do
we
still
are
we
still
restricted
under
the
47
or
we.
D
Q
S
S
It's
the
same
people
that
were
in
front
of
the
judge
who
rendered
the
recent
decision
would
be
in
front
of
another
judge
discussing
a
stay:
yes,
yourselves,
they're,
two
other
law
firms,
Canadian
Taxpayers,
Federation,
etc,
they're,
okay,
and
if
that
was
granted,
then
what
would
have
been
five
would
be
in
effect
at
that
point.
Yes,.
G
S
G
S
The
the
uncertainty
of
that
and
I
don't
want
you
to
put
words
in
the
clerk's
mouth,
but
that
is
part
of
the
uncertainty
of
this
election
because
we
don't
know
what
what
happened
on
the
18th.
If
there
is
a
state,
then
we
have
an
uncertainty
about
the
47
bill.
Five
might
be
in
effect,
but
could
get
overturned
on
the
appeal.
So
there
nothing
is
really
settled
at
this
point,
except
for
the
introduction
of
bill.
31
is
but
I'd
be
right
to
say
that
and.
G
With
the
decision
having
been
rendered
today,
it
is
in
force
and
the
election
is
being
administered
on
a
47
word
more,
but
there
are
a
number
of
uncertainties
because
of
the
fee
appeal
this
day:
application
and
the
introduction
of
bill
31.
There
are
a
number
of
uncertainties
and
pieces
of
the
puzzle
that
have
yet
to
be
determined
and
moving
forward.
Yes
and.
G
Put
it
like
that
clerk
to
speak
to
the
definition
of
that
group
of
200
I'm,
not
certain
whether
they're
people
who
have
attempted
to
register
or
whether
they're
just
people
who
registered
under
the
47
word
regime,
who
have
not
registered
under
25
and
may
perhaps
we
don't
know
whether
they
all
want
to
register
I'm
going
to
let
the
clerk
answer
that
answer.
That.
N
G
S
A
B
N
Through
the
speaker,
we
are
in
the
process
of
finalizing
the
voter
information
cards
under
both
the
47
Ward
scenario
and
a
25
Ward
scenario.
We
have
not
yet
determined
our
induction
date
through
Canada
Post
for
mail
out,
as
we
are
waiting
to
see
if
some
certainty
can
come
in
the
next
few
days,
but
our
plan
is
certainly
to
induct
by
likely
mid
next
week.
B
The
certainty
that
I
think
people
well
the
two
parts
of
the
certainty:
the
locations
have
really
actually
already
been
established
and
what
I
thought
I
heard
the
clerk's
say
was
that,
regardless
of
whether
it's
a
47
or
25,
the
locations
are
basically
the
same.
So
the
voter
ID
cards
going
out
would
establish
the
locations
and
there
shouldn't
be
all
that
much
difference
that
correct
through.
N
The
speaker,
we
have
been
able
to
confirm
voting
places
for
election
day
that
are
fairly
similar
under
a
twenty
five
and
a
forty
seven
Ward
model
with
some
minor
adjustments.
The
challenge
becomes
the
advance
vote
locations
which
we
include
on
our
voter
information
cards,
so
that
the
eligible
electors
are
aware
of
the
dates
and
locations.
They
can
utilize
an
advance
vote
option.
Okay,.
B
So
let
me
then
focus
on
the
advance
poll
dates,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
we
run
on
the
assumption
that
there
will
be
an
election
on
October
22nd,
regardless
of
what
transpires
over
the
next
number
of
weeks,
what
really
is
important
is
what
appears
on
the
ballot.
That's
the
uncertainty,
the
names
that
appear
on
the
ballot,
whether
on
Election
Day
or
on
the
advance
poll
day.
What
happens
if
we
aren't
able
to
establish
what
the
actual
ballots
look
like
by
the
advanced
polling
date?
B
D
Madam
Speaker
I
believe
I've
already
addressed
parts
of
that
question.
No,
it
is
not
sufficient
in
order
to
meet
the
principles
of
the
legislation
to
simply
have
ballots
at
various
locations
on
Election
Day
people
need
to
know
where
to
go
vote.
They
need
to
know
who
their
candidates,
our
I,
have
principles
that
I
must
comply
with,
and
we
absolutely
need
to
provide
some
level
of
advance
vote.
It's
it's
simply
not
possible
or
we
have
a
number
of
requirements
for
ballot
printing.
It
takes
a
large
amount
of
time
to
print
those.
N
B
D
A
P
P
P
P
F
P
B
R
B
R
D
R
D
D
N
N
The
speaker
I
think
generally,
our
poll
lists
are
fairly
comparable
between
the
province
of
Ontario
and
the
City
of
Toronto,
because
there's
only
so
many
libraries
community
centers
schools
and
churches
that
one
has
available
to
avail
themselves
as
a
poll
station,
but
they're
not
exactly
the
same.
Okay.
N
R
D
N
D
R
N
Through
the
speaker,
when
the
provincial
government
enacted
bill
five,
the
enacted
regulations
a
few
days
later,
that
provided
new
dates
through
regulation
that
were
already
passed
in
the
Municipal
Elections
Act.
So
we
would
need
a
similar
regulation
enacted
under
bill
31
to
enable
us
to
implement
an
election
and
still
meet
our
statutory
processes.
What.
N
R
J
B
Counselor,
that's
the
end
of
your
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'll
go
on
to
speakers.
First
on
the
speaker's
list
is
councilman.
Epic
fall
by
Councillor.
Mount
lau
I'd
remind
counselors
that
if
you
do
have
motions,
please
move
them.
When
you
stand
to
speak
before
you
actually
speak,
Thank
You,
counselor
havock.
You
have
the
floor.
C
C
Residents
of
the
City
of
Toronto
is
to
thank
our
staff
and
in
particularly,
and
particularly
the
legal
department
and
the
City
Clerk's,
like
someone
has
thrown
on
monkey
wrench
into
this
system
and
has
caused
a
real
mess
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
spending
not
a
few
hours
but
many
hours
every
day,
seven
days
a
week
and
have
been
for
the
last
several
weeks,
trying
to
sort
this
out,
I
know
that
people
are
stressed,
we're
all
stressed
and
they
deserve
our
total
support
in
a
lot
of
things.
My
motion
has
three
parts
to
it.
C
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
on
this
I:
don't
want
to
go
over
it
all,
but
to
use
that
stick
of
the
Charter,
the
no
standing
clause
to
override
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms,
and
for
the
premier
to
say
that
he
is
willing
to
do
that
again
and
again
and
again,
if
his
will
does
not
prevail,
is
an
abuse
of
the
legal
system.
It's
an
abuse
of
the
judicial
system.
It's
an
abuse
of
the
long-standing
traditions
that
have
governed
this
city,
this
province,
and
this
country
and
I
think
we
need
to.
C
While
the
wording
is
a
fairly
simple.
Let
Torontonians
know
that
we
as
a
people
do
not
accept
the
way
that
he
has
he
that
that
we
the
way
he
has
callously
overrun
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms.
The
second
motion
is
to
direct
the
city
solicitor
to
challenge.
No,
no
sorry
go
back.
The
second
part
of
the
first
motion
is
to
challenge
the
legality
of
bill
31
through
an
application
in
the
courts.
C
We
do
this,
as
as
our
cities,
a
legal
department
and
I'm
thankful
to
them
again
for
spending
countless
hours
going
over
precedents
and
ways
that
this
might
be
managed,
and
this
motion
includes,
of
course,
as
the
solicitor
has
said,
working
with
outside
solicitors,
who
are
being
being
hired
by
other
candidates
who
are
doing
this
on
a
pro
bono
basis
and
in
the
public
interest.
Of
course
it
includes
them.
We
need
to
continue
to
have
that
legal
fight
and
that's
what
the
second
motion
does.
C
The
third
motion
is
the
one
where
we
need
support
from
another
order
of
government
and
that's
the
federal
government.
We
know
that
there
is.
We
I
didn't
know
that
such
a
thing
existed.
It
comes
from
I
understand
the
Constitution
of
1867
that
the
federal
government
has
the
power
to
disallow
of
disallowance
with
respect
to
be
bill.
31
they
have
that
power.
They
have
not
exercised
it
since
World
War
two
is
this
one
of
those
extraordinary
cases
where
it
should
be
exercised?
I
think
we
as
a
council
have
an
ability
and
should
say
yes.
C
This
is
one
of
those
power
those
times
when
that
power
should
be
exercised.
We
need
residents.
We
need,
are
good
residents
to
ask
MPs
from
Toronto
to
watch
our
back,
to
have
our
back
and
to
say
to
the
federal
government.
This
is
an
appropriate
use
of
that
power.
When
the
provincial
government
inappropriately
uses
the
Gnawa
standing
clause
to
overrun
our
rights
and
freedoms
to
conduct
an
election
in
a
fair
and
transparent
way,
then
the
federal
government
has
not
an
ability
has
an
obligation,
dare
say
to
say
province,
you've
really
overstepped.
C
C
Madam
Speaker
I
think
all
of
us
here
whether
you've
been
here
one
term
or
many
terms,
know
that
we
are
in
extraordinary
times.
We
have
never
seen
anything
like
this.
We
need
to
be
extraordinarily
vigilant,
extraordinarily
strong
and
it's
extraordinary
frankly
working
in
hope
that
the
right
thing
is
done
in
this
in
this
situation,
so
I
hope
you
can
support
these
motions.
They
are
I
think
in
the
public
interest,
it's
not
about
us
as
individuals.
It
is
really
about
democracy
in
our
city
and
our
need
to
defend
it.
Thank
you.
C
K
C
K
K
Three
City
Council
requests
the
federal
government
to
exercise
the
power
of
disallowance
with
respect
to
bill
31,
to
preserve
respect
for
fundamental
rights
and
freedoms,
provider
being
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms.
So
what
we
were
asking
is
another
institution
of
governments
in
order
to
sit
on
this
on
the
provincial
government
say
you
can't
do
this
in
order
to
preserve
the
jobs
of
a
couple
of
city
councillors
and
the
City
of
Toronto.
Is
this
what
you're
asking
for
no.
C
A
K
C
In
this
extraordinary
moment
that
we
have
not
seen
in
the
history
of
municipal
provincial
relations
in
our
history
that
it
is
appropriate
for
the
federal
government
to
exercise
its
power,
it
has
this
power
to
intervene.
It
has
this
power
to
put
aside
this
provincial
onslaught
on
us
on
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms,
and
we
think
I
think
it.
They
have
an
obligation
to
act.
Regarde
counselor.
K
C
We
have
never
asked
formally,
there
may
have
been
some
individual
conversations,
but
we
have
not
formally
asked
this
council
and
we
are.
We
are
the
democratically
elected
voice
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
I.
Think
the
federal
government,
if
they
get
a
motion
from
us,
is
asking
in
it
can
I
finish
asking
in
a
very
serious
way
for
them
to
defend
our
local
civic
democracy
and
if.
K
C
A
A
S
Yes,
you
won't
get
walked
out
today,
yeah
well,
I'm,
just
wondering
councillor,
Matt
havoc
I
have
just
some
questions
for
you.
Some
councillors
seem
to
think
you're
moving
this
motion,
I
think
the
quote
is
doing
this:
to
preserve
your
job
or
to
preserve
councillors,
jobs
and
we'd.
Just
like
you
to
comment
on
that.
Yes,.
C
S
S
S
A
S
C
A
S
C
You
thank
you
very
much.
I
think
it
is
a
good
question.
I
think
all
of
us
around
here
recognize
that
there
is
an
element,
because
we
are
the
ones
who
will
be
the
beneficiaries
of
one
system
or
another
system
or
both
systems
or
neither
system,
and
you
know
it's
important
to
acknowledge
that
and
put
that
in
a
box.
However,
I
think
most
of
us
in
this
process
have
gone
to
our
public's
and
have
sought
out
the
wisdom
of
the
broader
community.
C
So
when
I
do
that
and
when
I
listen
to
the
wise
owls,
like
former
Premier
Bill
Davis,
former
premier,
Bob
Rae,
the
former
Prime
Minister,
Brian
Mulroney
and
frankly,
people
in
our
community,
they
are
appalled
by
this.
They
are
appalled
by
the
poor
way
in
which
which
this
particular
premier
is
a
all
thing:
the
Democratic,
their
democratic
rights.
C
C
S
A
C
I
did
experience
with
many
of
us
experienced
inefficiency
and
chaos
at
Council
that
was
2010
to
2014
I.
Think
this
last
term
of
council.
We
have
had
very
animated
conversations
and
I
think
it's
not
good
to
say
animated
conversations
and
debates,
equal
inefficiency.
We
have
had
some
tough
decisions
here,
we've
struggled
through
them,
we've
made
them
happen
and
we
have
moved
this
city
forward
in
the
last
four
years.
I'm
proud
of
that
I.
C
Think
most
of
us
are
proud
of
the
work
that
we
have
done
here
on
city
council,
just
because
there's
an
intense
debate
that
doesn't
mean
we're
not
advancing
the
the
city
forward,
so
I
don't
think
we're
inefficient.
In
fact,
I
think
we
are
one
of
the
most
efficient
orders
of
government,
given
the
volume
and
diversity
of
the
kinds
of
issues
that
we
deal
with
at
this
council.
Thank.