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City Council, meeintg 11, October 30, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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A
B
Thank
you
very
very
much,
madam
Speaker,
and
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
today
to
commemorate
the
career
of
Joe
frag
executive
director
of
corporate
finance.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
both
Ali
and
Connor
Joe's
children
are
in
the
audience.
If
you
don't
mind,
standing
up
and
waving
a
proud
moment
for
your
dad.
B
As
all
of
you
know,
public
service
is
an
incredibly
special
thing
and
so
to
have
an
opportunity
to
commemorate
fantastic
careers.
Is
such
an
honor?
For
me,
Joe
has
dedicated
the
last
29
years
to
Toronto
public
service,
and
it
goes
without
saying
that
his
accomplishments
and
contributions,
the
city
over
those
years
have
been
numerous
I'm
happy
to
have
the
opportunity
to
publicly
recognize
your
contributions.
B
This
includes
leading
the
development
of
rates
for
water
usage,
nine
percent
over
nine
years,
Joe
I,
say
no
more.
The
creation
of
Toronto's
Investment
Board,
the
creation
of
Canada's
largest
municipal
green
bond,
a
bond
program
to
name
just
a
few
on
revenue
tools
he
oversaw
the
policy
development
on
the
municipal,
land
transfer,
tax
and
implementation
of
our
municipal
accommodation.
Tax
Joe
was
also
part
of
the
negotiating
team
for
the
development
of
Field,
the
Raptors
training
field
facility.
B
So
I
guess
we
can
attribute
the
the
wind
the
world
championship
to
you,
which
is
always
a
good
thing.
Coca-Cola
Coliseum
and
waterfront
redevelopment
on
the
transit
file
Joe
has
been
and
continues
to
be,
a
value
contributor
and
advisor.
He
was
instrumental
in
the
acquisition
of
Union
Station
and
his
input
helped
secure
approval.
The
Sheppard
subway
in
the
Toronto
Spadina
subway
extension
and
most
recently
Joe,
has
provided
valuable
insight
on
the
transit
report
with
the
province
which
we
approved
yesterday.
B
Joe
you'll
leave
a
legacy
you
should
be
proud
of,
and
your
children
should
be
proud
of
one
that
has
always
put
Toronto
and
its
residents
first.
We
thank
you
sincerely
for
a
job
well
done
and
offer
our
best
wishes
to
you
as
you
enter
the
next
chapter,
your
life.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
would
like
now
like
to
invite
merit
orient
a
memento
of
appreciation
for
Joe's
contributions
to
the
Toronto
Public
Service.
C
Well,
Chris
thank
you
and
Joe
I've
only
been
here
for
five
years,
but
you
have
served
for
29
and
I've
certainly
had
a
chance,
though,
to
see
in
those
five
years
a
number
of
things.
Some
of
the
projects-
I
won't
repeat
them
all.
That
Chris
mentioned
that
some
of
which
took
place
before
I
was
here
and
some
not
and
I
I
did
learn,
because
I
was
taught
by
all
my
council
colleagues
that
when
people
would
mention
to
us
the
water
rates
going
up
9%
that
we
said
to
call
you.
C
But
if
you
think
about
what
a
responsible
thing
that
was
to
do
and
how
much
it's
put
us
in
a
good
position
today
in
terms
of
the
water
infrastructure
and
in
terms
of
the
principle
of
having
that
particular
obviously
vital
service
pay
for
itself
and
be
well
financed
on
a
sustainable
basis
going
forward.
It
was
a
very
important
initiative
and
I
should
say
you
were
involved
in
I.
C
Think
Chris
mentioned
this
I'm,
not
sure
in
the
development
of
the
first
development
charge,
bylaw
as
well
and
I
can
tell
you,
having
been
through
a
couple
of
the
sort
of
the
settings
of
the
development
charges
that
you
were
there,
a
force
to
be
reckoned
with.
Isn't
that
the
way
public
service
is
supposed
to
work
that
we're
getting
our
professional
advisers
to
give
us
in
a
way
that
is
sort
of
unflinching?
C
And
yet
you
know
respectful
and
professional,
their
best
advice
and
and
to
sometimes
push
back
against
our
inclination
to
do
some
things
differently,
and
certainly
in
that
instance,
the
most
recent
development
charge
negotiation
in
the
context
of
the
budget
that
I
guess
you
helped
to
see
us
through,
and
we
were
between
chief
financial
officers
and
on
the
transit
talks.
As
I
understand,
you
have
played
that
role,
always
the
same
way
professional.
C
So
I
wish
you
well
in
your
retirement.
I
always
find
it
the
other
day.
I
was
in
a
meeting
and
I
think
the
way
I
asked
but
I
said,
is
that
actually
happening
because
they
were
talking
about
the
council
meeting
and
you
hear
about
these
retirements.
You
look
at
people
who
seem
very
young
and
totally
sort
of
with
it
in
terms
of
their
professional
capacities
getting
better
by
the
day,
and
you
sort
of
say
you
know
what
why
are
they
retiring
but
it
is.
C
It
is
a
great
that
you've
made
this
decision
to
to
take
a
the
next
chapter
in
your
life.
I'm
sure
your
family's
going
to
be
excited
to
have
more
of
your
time
and
I
want
to
just
say.
Thank
you
for
a
job
extremely
well
done
extremely
professionally
done
done
with
conviction,
and
you
know
we
don't
the
this.
This
is.
This
is
what
it
is,
which
is
very
meaningful
on
the
one
hand,
and
that
it
comes
from
the
council,
but
we
don't
have
a
new
car,
a.
D
D
So
mr.
mayor
take
and
Chris,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
kind
words
and
the
acknowledgement.
They
truly
mean
a
great
deal
to
me.
So,
madam
Speaker,
it
goes
without
saying
that
none
of
my
career
accomplishments
would
have
been
possible
without
the
talents
and
dedication
and
support
of
so
many
colleagues
and
with
your
indulgence.
I
would
just
like
to
take
a
minute
to
recognize
them
there.
D
My
management
team
from
corporate
finance
they
include
jeff,
medley
Jeff
is
our
director
of
risk
management
and
insurance,
and
his
group
oversees
some
6,000
claims,
believe
it
or
not,
annually
against
the
city.
They
do
that
with
great
deal
of
professionalism
and
intact
in
resolving
them
Randy,
LeClair
and
Betsy
egg.
They
lead
our
capital
markets
section
together
with
the
Toronto
Investment
Board.
They
invest
some
seven
billion
dollars
of
city
assets
in
the
capital
markets,
Chris
to
me,
and
Borya
Navarre
Leyva
of
our
financial
policy
group.
D
They
also
look
after
our
property
tax
system
or
public
tax
policies.
These
account
for
the
largest
share
of
revenue
that
we
generate
annually
at
about
four
point:
three
billion
dollars
and
my
right
hand
Rob
Hatton,
who
is
our
director
of
strategic
initiatives
and
intergovernmental
policy,
Rob's
group
sort
of
deals
with
what
we
public
finance
dorks,
call
very,
very
sexy
projects,
Kota
revenue
tools,
ml
TT
revenues,
development
charges
and
the
like.
I'm,
truly
thankful
for
all
of
your
contributions
and
your
support
to
me
over
the
years.
D
I
would
also
like
to
thank
three
key
colleagues
that
I
have
the
greatest
of
respect
for
our
city
solicitor,
Wendy
Walberg
for
her
thoughtful
and
sage
advice
over
the
years
that
have
kept
me
out
of
trouble,
Josie
la
Vida.
You
know
we
didn't
often
agree
on
many
things,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
no
nobody
could
question
her.
Her
passion
for
public
service
and
her
municipal
finance
expertise,
and,
certainly
last
but
not
least,
Juliana
Carboni
Juliana
has
been
a
colleague
of
mine
for
some
25
years.
D
D
We
have
by
far
the
greatest
number
of
high-rise
cranes
that
daughter
our
city
more
than
any
other
municipality
or
city
in
North
America,
and
by
any
measure
we
ranked
as
one
of
the
most
livable
cities
in
the
world,
I
think,
with
with
greater
investment
in
public
transit
and
affordable
housing
by
the
other
orders
of
government,
the
likes
of
we.
What
we
saw
yesterday
and
perhaps
a
future
that
sees
us
access,
some
more
progressive
tax
taxes.
I
think
will
be
well
on
our
way
to
a
fiscal
sustainability
and
perhaps
a
greater
greater
social
equity.
D
Mr.
mayor,
it's
been
an
absolute
privilege
to
serve
as
a
member
of
the
Toronto
Public
Service
and
a
pleasure
to
work
with
you
and
your
office
for
the
past
five
years.
This
place
is,
like
you
know
a
second
home
to
me,
and
I
will
always
look
upon
it
and
new
members
of
council
with
great
fondness.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
C
The
notion
that
was
fairly
far-fetched
was
that
Toronto
was
gonna,
have
a
professional
rugby
team,
but
it
was
gonna
play
a
lot
of
its
game,
pretty
well
all
of
its
games,
except
for
its
home
games
and
even
some
of
us
home
games
overseas
and
that
when
it
played
its
home
games,
the
teams
were
gonna
come
from
overseas
to
play
here,
and
it
just
was
one
of
those
things
where
you
sort
of
thought
to
yourself.
How
are
they
going
to
make
that
work
and
are
they
gonna
make
it
work?
C
But
I
went
because
Jay
convinced
me
to
go
quite
frankly,
because
she
was
friendly
with
some
of
the
people
who
were
the
sponsors,
and
the
bottom
line
is
not
only
have
they
made
it
work,
they
made
it
work
in
two
ways
that
I
wouldn't
have
thought
possible.
The
the
the
the
one
that
you
thought
of
as
a
a
real
possibility,
but
not
a
sure
thing
by
any
means,
was
just
that
there
would
be
the
fan.
Support
and
what's
happened
is
because
I've
had
a
chance
to
go
to
the
games.
C
I
know
councillor
Grimes
as
much
call
him.
Senator
Graham's
that'd
be
quite
fitting
to
be
a
senator,
senator
Grimes.
I
know:
councillor
Grimes,
you
know
gets
is
a
very
loyal
supporter,
but
it
is
more
fun.
I
can
tell
you
for
who
haven't
had
a
chance
to
go
because
very
much
like
TFC,
because
I
think
it's
new
and
because
I
think
it
appeals
to
sort
of
a
grassroots
group
of
sports
fans.
C
It's
it's
tremendously
well
supported
and
the
games
are
a
great
fun
and
and
last
game
the
one
that
they
want
to
move
them
up
into
the
Super
League.
Just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
the
place
was
full
a
Lamport
stadium,
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
people
or
something
there
wasn't
a
seat
to
be
had,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
thought
wasn't
likely
all
that
possible.
C
But
the
other
thing
that
you
thought
wasn't
necessarily
possible
for
a
team
based
here
and
playing
in
the
circumstance
that
was
playing
back
and
forth
overseas,
and
so
on
was
that
they
would
be
able
to
be
a
winner.
You
know
with
most
teams
like
this:
it
takes
years
before
they're
able
to
be
contenders,
and
this
team
was
almost
a
contender
from
day
one
and
has
done
particularly
well
the
last
two
years
and
so
I.
Just
think
that
in
that
regard,
it
is
worthy
of
recognition
that
they
did
defeat
on
that
day.
C
A
couple
of
weeks
ago,
the
Featherstone
Rovers
24
to
six
in
the
bet,
Fred
championship
grand
final,
and
this
earns
them
a
spot
in
the
premier,
Rugby
League
in
the
Northern
Hemisphere,
and
when
I
had
the
chance
to
be
overseas
in
London.
Recently,
I
can
tell
you
that
people
were
aware
of
that
over
there.
It's
on
the
BBC
on
the
sports
and
that's
again
good
for
the
Toronto
name,
because
it
has
our
name
out
there
in
a
different
context.
C
But
the
guy
that
also
just
fit
sort
of
from
central
casting
is
their
coach,
Brian,
McDermott
and
all
the
staff
that
he
has,
but
he's
from
central
casting
and
I
gather
he's
one
of
the
most
highly
regarded
coaches
in
in
the
game
of
rugby,
which
is
a
great
and
exciting
game.
I
want
to,
of
course,
extend
our
congratulations
to
the
players.
C
Our
friend
mister
hunter
here
was
brought
in
to
be
the
the
seat
against
the
CEO
of
the
of
the
company
and,
of
course,
he's
well
known
to
us
in
the
sports
sporting
world
in
Toronto.
He's
had
a
role
to
play
in
many
of
the
exciting
chapters
in
Canadian
sports
and
in
Toronto,
sports
and
I
think
he
took
over
in
somewhat
challenging
circumstances
to
make
sure
that
every
part
of
this
team
could
rally
around
the
players
and
could
make
sure
the
fans
had
the
opportunity
to
cheer
on
this
team.
C
We
have
a
little
bit
of
work
to
do,
perhaps
with
them
in
making
sure
that
stadium
is
all
that
it
needs
to
be
so
that
it
can
be
a
home
for
the
community,
a
better
home
for
the
community,
as
well
as
for
the
Wolfpack
in
the
coming
years,
but
that's
a
discussion
for
another
day
and
so
may
I
just
say
to
to
you.
Congratulations
on
the
win
and
Bob.
C
Please
extend
our
congratulations
to
all
the
players,
to
the
coaching
staff,
to
the
management
team
and
just
say
to
them
we're
proud
of
you
as
we're
proud
of
our
sports
teams
that
have
had
such
a
good
run
recently.
Another
championship
team
for
Toronto.
In
fact,
I've
called
mayor
I,
was
in
Edmond
to
see
if
we
can
borrow
those
signs
that
they
have.
That
says,
city
of
Champions
and
just
stick
that
on
all
those
signs
that
are
at
Steeles,
Avenue
and
various
other
places
coming
into
the
City
of
Toronto.
E
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
and
thank
you
counselor
for
allowing
us
this
moment.
I
personally,
actually
would
like
to
pass
on
my
congratulations
to
Joe
for
egg
I
can
give
you
full
assurance
that
in
the
four
leases
I
negotiated
with
him
during
my
time
at
MLSE,
Joe
represented
the
city
very
well.
He
was
a
very
tough
negotiator.
We
did.
We
did
field
twice.
E
We
did
the
Raptors
practice
facility,
bio
seal,
now
ovo
and
we
need
the
Ricoh
Coliseum
now
coca-cola
Coliseum,
but
Joe,
and
the
team
and
Diane
young
and
the
legal
team
were
very,
very
tough
negotiators.
But
we
did.
We
got
a
deal
done
because
it
was
good
for
business
so
again,
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
and
especially
thank
you
for
dragging
your
dolly
and
your
cell
phone
to
the
last
game.
He
was
brave
enough
to
walk
across
the
field
in
his
boot.
E
He
didn't
take
the
the
stroller
is
whatever
it's
called
and
we
do
appreciate
your
being
there.
It
says
a
lot
to
our
fans
and
it
says
a
lot
to
the
city.
It
says
a
lot
to
our
players,
so
a
few
other
people
I
want
to.
Thank
that's
just
to
give
everyone
an
idea.
Three
years
ago
we
launched
this
undertaking.
We
brought
an
exciting
new
sport
to
the
city.
I
have
a
picture
in
my
office.
E
That
says
that
shows
the
opening
game
and
you
could
shoot
an
arrow
in
there
and
not
hit
anybody
as
the
last
game.
We
are
over
10,000
people,
Dini
I
know
it
only
holds
9,
but
we
were
able
to
squeeze
a
few
in
so
anyways,
but
David
Argyle
has
been
the
supporter
of
this
financially
and
emotionally,
and
he
is
really
really
a
keen
Toronto
white
who
has
a
passion
and
passion
for
for
rugby.
E
Three
years
in
a
row,
we've
been
promoted,
it's
just
a
wonderful
undertaking
and
to
the
mayor's
comments,
we're
now
at
the
epitome
of
the
professional
rugby
in
the
UK,
so
a
great
opportunity
to
market
this
city
and
to
market
Toronto,
and
to
give
you
an
idea
now
that
at
this
level,
the
visiting
teams
on
average
will
fly
in
a
thousand
fans
from
the
UK.
So
every
two
weeks
the
hotels
will
enjoy
the
benefit.
The
restaurants
will
enjoy
the
benefit
and
will
enjoy
having
them
here
so
a
great
opportunity
anyways
now
we're
cutting
it
short.
E
So
thank
you
to
David
Argyle,
thank
you
to
the
minister
of
sport,
mark
Grimes,
who
has
been
a
big
supporter
in
all
the
deals
that
we
had
to
do
with
Joe
Freck,
but
and
thank
you
to
the
city
as
our
landlord.
We
work
with
Janie
and
her
team
at
parks
and
forestry,
and
it's
been
a
very,
very
cooperative
and
amicable
relationship,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
going
forward
with
you
on
a
long
term
arrangement.
E
E
They're,
an
amazing,
hard-working
passionate
group
and
we
look
forward
for
them
to
grow
as
we
grow
in
the
league.
Last
but
not
least,
you're
all
invited
to
the
April
18th
home
opener.
We
because
of
the
season.
We
actually
play
three
of
our
home
games
in
the
UK
before
we
can
actually
get
back
here
and
into
warm
weather,
so
April,
our
18th
we've
got
lots
of
work
to
do
and
we
look
forward
to
working
in
with
you
on
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
You
members
of
council,
we
will
not
review
and
confirm
the
order
paper.
There
are
44
items
left
on
the
agenda,
including
29
member
motions.
Yesterday,
council
decided
to
consider
item
EC
8.16
on
provincial
funding
changes
and
previously
approved
childcare
capital
projects
update
as
this
first
item
of
business.
This
morning,
City
Council
will
consider
my
motions
at
2:00
p.m.
I
will
now
take
the
release
of
holds.
Please
put
your
name
on
the
request
of
questions
staff.
B
F
Have
to
move
that
for
information,
the
supplementary,
okay,
fair
enough,
those
two
items
so.
A
G
F
C
F
H
Have
an
amendment
to
the
staff
recommendation
and
that's
the
amendment
is
to
change
July
31st
2022,
January,
31st,
2020
I'm
doing
this
because
I'm
not
convinced
the
developer
in
fact
needs
the
additional
time,
because
every
time
I
ask
they
give
a
different
rationale
and
so
I
don't
think
we
should
continue.
It's
actually
a
sidewalk
occupation,
but
we
want
our
sidewalk
back
at
some
point.
H
A
A
F
A
B
Stretch
as
a
point
of
order,
but
I
just
want
to
point
out
to
members
that
there's
the
first
three
audit
items
are
potentially
available
to
go
in-camera
so
for
an
efficient
meeting.
If
members
have
questions
that
need
to
go
in
camera,
we
should
bundle
them
together
and
maybe
they
can
indicate
them
to
you
or
to
me,
so
we
can
hold
those
appropriately
yeah.
A
So
if
any,
if
any
members
of
council
will
want
to
go
in-camera
on
the
audit
committee
reports,
please
let
the
staff
know
so,
then
we
can
go
into
camera.
Okay,
our
first
time
diadem,
is
on
page
four
east
a/c
8.16
counts.
There
Crecy
you
held
the
item
down.
Do
we
have
questions?
Okay,
counts
of
crécy
questions,
Thank.
I
I
I
J
I
I
So
we're
dealing
in
front
of
us
today
is
the
latest
round
of
provincial,
the
latest
sag
and
provincial
cuts
to
childcare.
So
is
the
province
still
proposing
to
reduce
the
amount
as
a
cost
share
that
they
provide
for
the
subsidy
program
from
one
hundred
eighty
percent?
Are
they
still
doing
that
reduction
I'd.
A
J
I
J
I
J
I
J
I
There
is
no
guarantee
that
this
time
next
year,
we
won't
be
back
in
the
same
situation,
trying
to
make
up
that
15
million
dollar
gap
for
subsidies
which
impacts
760
families,
that's
correct,
okay
and
then
on
child
care
expansion.
Because
we've
talked
about
the
subsidy
program.
What
percentage
of
kids
is
just
at
you
know,
whatever
your
income
level
is
what
percentage
of
kids
are
in
licensed
childcare
right
now,
in
our
city,
approximately.
J
I
We
have
49
new
childcare
sites,
identified
right
across
the
city
and
every
Ward
to
help
us
meet
those
growth
targets
for
new
spaces,
regardless
of
income.
Is
that
right?
That's
correct.
Okay
in
the
province,
the
17
sites
were
building.
Now
the
province
was
paying
a
hundred
percent
of
the
capital
and
operating
for
these
49
additional
sites.
Have
they
changed
the
model
so
that
they
are
no
longer
providing
the
operating
the.
J
I
J
K
You
very
much
madam
Speaker,
no
council
kreski
has
asked
a
lot
of
the
questions
and
which
is
terrific.
That
I
was
about
to
ask
but
I
wanted
to
understand
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
process.
That's
ongoing
right
now
in
terms
of
discussion
with
the
province.
How
are
those
going
and
are
you
confident
that
we'll
be
able
to
address
many
of
the
issues
and
concerns
that
councillor
Crecy
has
just
brought
forward
through
this
mechanism?
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
need
to
assist?
You.
J
Madam
Speaker,
yes
I
can
I
can
confirm
that
the
city
of
Toronto
and
Children
Services
is
working
in
a
number
of
advisory
at
a
number
of
advisory
tables,
both
with
our
intergovernmental
partners,
other
municipal
partners
and
cross-sectoral
II,
so
throw
through
those
mechanisms.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
collaborate
with
our
partners,
provide
advice
and,
at
a
local
level,
really
indicate
what
our
needs
are
in
terms
of
bet,
the
best
outcomes
for
children
and
family
and
I'm,
confident
that
those
conversations
are
going
well
now.
K
K
J
K
J
K
K
Line
of
questioning
that
councilor
kress,
he
asked
and
you
provided
information
about
low-income
individuals
who
are
benefiting
from
the
subsidies
and
so
on,
I
met
and
the
mayor
and
I.
We
were
at
the
Birkdale
childcare
facilities.
There
were
folks
there
who
were
professionals,
there's
one
lady
I
believe
either
her
or
her
husband
was
a
lawyer.
Is
that
considered
low
income
in
terms
of
the
people
who
are
benefiting
because
some
of
those
individuals
there
indicated
that
they
too
were
benefiting
from
the
subsidies?
So
is
it
just
simply
people
who
are
low
income
or
what's
the
threshold?
L
K
J
We
cannot
provide
access
to
childcare
through
fee
subsidies.
We
have
a
number
of
families
who
would
be
unable
to
work
or
go
to
school
and
contribute
to
the
economy.
In
addition,
those
childcare
centers
would
have
vacant
spaces
that
they
could
not
fill
and
if
that
would
impact
their
financial
viability
and.
K
J
A
A
H
Fitting
that
we
have
a
elementary
school
class
join
us
for
our
child
care
debate.
There
are
two
different
expansion
plans
here.
There
is
the
subsidy
expansion
plan
and
then
the
total
number
of
spaces.
If
I,
if
I,
understand
correctly
from
counselor
crises,
questions
the
the
target
for
the
expansion
plan
for
spaces
is
that
fifty
percent
of
children
in
the
City
of
Toronto
have
access
to
a
licensed
childcare
space.
H
J
J
To
the
speaker,
the
expansion
is
taking
place
across
the
city,
the
expansion,
the
school
board,
expansion,
the
school
board's
select
the
schools
where
there's
an
opportunity
for
child
care.
We
layer
that
on
our
growth
strategy,
to
look
at
neighborhoods
that
where
there
is
a
need
which,
for
the
most
part,
every
neighborhood
has
a
need
so
jointly.
We
make
decisions,
but
I
can
say
that
the
spaces
are
spread
across
the
sea
of
Toronto.
So.
J
J
J
J
H
If
we
didn't
increase
the
city's
component
and
accept
that
this
is
an
outright
download
on
to
the
city,
then
you're
looking
at
7600
spaces
over
the
course
of
the
10-year
plan
that
wouldn't
be
paid
for
so
essentially
we're
paying
for
7600
more
spaces
than
we
would
have
last
year.
Had
the
province
not
changed
their
their
ratio.
H
H
J
H
M
J
Through
the
speaker,
we
are
providing
advice
on
a
number
of
items
and
the
province
is
looking
at
the
legislation,
doing
a
review
of
the
legislation
doing
a
review
of
the
funding
formula.
So
when
I
say
they're
going
well,
the
information
is
being
received,
they're
being
receptive,
we
have
definitely
seen
a
change
from
the
original
funding
announcement
in
April
to
our
announcement
last
Friday
there's
definitely
been
a
change,
so
it
seems
that
the
advice
that
we're
giving
about
how
those
major
changes
will
impact
families
is
being
heard
so,
but.
M
J
Targets
through
our
growth
strategy,
the
targets
around
expansion
actually
rely
on
all
three
levels
of
government:
provincial
federal
municipal,
to
contribute.
We
through
phase
one
of
the
growth
strategy.
We
did
make
significant
progress,
given
the
new
spaces
that
are
planned
over
the
next
five
years.
That
will
also
help
us
to
make
progress
in
our
growth
strategy,
but
we
certainly
do
rely
on
all
levels
of
government
to
contribute
in
order
to
reach
that
target.
So.
J
I
would
hesitate
to
say
who's
failing
the
federal
government's
continuing
to
contribute.
The
City
of
Toronto
is
making
a
contribution,
the
provincial
contribution.
Well,
it
has
decreased
by
2.8
million
this
year.
The
commitment
to
capital
to
building
the
capital
and
funding
the
capital
certainly
shows
a
commitment
to
growth,
but.
M
Guess,
given
the
given
the
trajectory,
though
we
anticipate
in
the
and
the
process
that
we
are
undertaken,
there's
there's
probably
a
very
good
chance
that
we're
not
gonna
meet
our
targets.
Would
you
say
that's
possible,
okay,
and
so
the
city
is,
is
definitely
at
the
table
and
we're
participating
and
we're
giving
us
we're
giving
the
funding
the
province
has
changed
there
since
the
the
previous
announcement
and
their
Liberal
government
and
now
under
the
that
forward,
government
they've
said
we're
not
going
to
fund
it.
M
The
way
we
our
predecessor
had
promised,
there's
been
no
changes
at
the
at
the
federal
level.
So
so
really
the
only
government.
So
far
that
hasn't
that's
that's
changed.
The
the
formula
has
come
to
the
table
says
we're
actually
not
going
to
give
you
as
much
is
so
far.
The
provincial
government
is
that
correct,
that's
correct
and
with
respect
to
those
who
are
going
to
be
most
impacted
and
and
you
we
talked
about
the
the
consequences
of
not
having
accessible,
affordable
childcare.
M
J
Madam
Speaker,
the
families
receiving
fee
subsidy
and
who
would
be
the
most
impacted,
are
typically
low-income
families
under
the
provincial
income
test.
Often
they
are
sole
support
women.
So
a
large
proportion
of
families
receiving
a
fee
subsidy
are
single-parent,
often
women.
Often
they
are
marginalised
families,
so
I
don't
have
the
numbers,
but
generally
that
gives
you
a
snapshot
of
the
families
that
would
be
most
impacted
and.
M
So,
by
not
being
able
to
fully
go
into
the
workforce
to
produce
an
income
for
to
sustain
a
family,
this
will
actually
run
counter
to
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
of
the
city.
Would
it
not
that's
correct,
so
we're?
Actually,
if
this
we're
gonna
fall
into
this
vicious
cycle,
for
those
who
actually
already
already
not
doing
well,
they'll
continue
to
further
not
do
well.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct
so,
right
now
before
us,
you've
got
a
series
of
recommendations,
I
think
there's
two
of
them.
What?
F
F
F
F
F
F
I
Thank
You
mr.
speaker
I
have
an
amendment
to
be
placed
on
the
screen,
which
is
a
request
on
the
province
around
multi-year
budgeting,
but
just
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
The
item
in
front
of
us
today
from
committee
is
for
all
of
us,
each
member
of
Council
to
make
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
to
call
on
the
province
to
not
reduce
but
reverse
the
cuts.
That's
what's
in
front
of
us.
Let
me
begin
by
thanking
our
staff.
I
Yet
again,
this
is
the
fourth
time
we've
had
an
item
like
this
at
Council
in
the
last
six
months
for
their
tenacious
work.
We
were
emailing
back
and
forth
on
Saturday
morning
and
so
I
want
to
thank
our
staff
from
Children's
Services
I
want
to
thank
the
chair
of
our
committee,
deputy
mayor
Thompson,
who
has
emerged
as
a
real
childcare
leader
in
the
city
and
the
Mayor
John
Tory,
who
has
been
steadfast
in
this
defense
of
childcare.
I
This
is
Groundhog
Day.
This
is
the
fourth
time
we
have
talked
about.
Utah
spoken
about
provincial
cuts
to
childcare
in
six
months.
The
fourth
time,
I
and
I've
said
it
before
it's
getting
closer,
it's
an
issue
that
has
become
deeply
personal
for
me
as
it
is
for
many
of
you,
because
my
spouse
and
I
are
having
our
first
kid
in
less
than
three
weeks
and
as
I've
told
you
before,
when
we
found
out
that
grace
was
pregnant.
I
I
Were
the
lucky
ones,
because
if
we
get
a
spot,
we
can
afford
to
pay
for
it,
we
will
between
household
costs
and
others
as
privileged
lucky
folks
in
the
city,
we
will
be
taking
on
debt
to
pay
for
child
care,
but
we
can
afford
to
do
that
and
we're
lucky.
Many
are
not,
and
so
the
discussion
we
have
about
child
care
for
the
fourth
time
in
six
months
here
should
be
centered
around
a
simple
premise,
which
is
that
child
care
should
be
accessible
and
affordable
for
everyone
who
needs
it.
I
That's
what
we're
working
towards
child
care?
If
you
need
it,
you
be
able
to
access
it,
and
you
should
have
been
able
to
afford
to
pay
for
it
just
like
public
school
or
healthcare.
For
that
matter,
nobody
should
have
to
choose
whether
or
not
to
put
their
child
in
child
care
due
to
financial
constraints.
Nobody-
and
so
here
we
are
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
where
childcare
is
the
most
expensive
of
any
city
in
Canada,
and
we
are
debating
for
the
fourth
time
in
six
months
how
to
stop
the
province
from
making
it
less
affordable.
I
We
have
30,000
people
on
subsidies
for
childcare,
but
a
waiting
list
of
17,000
people
we
should
be
debating.
How
do
we
reduce
that
waiting
list
instead
we're
debating?
How
do
we
protect
the
subsidies?
We
have
from
provincial
cuts.
Only
33%
of
people,
regardless
of
income
who
need
spaces
for
childcare,
can
currently
access
them.
I
We
should
be
having
a
debate
in
the
discussion
about
how
we
increase
the
number
of
kids,
who
can
access
childcare
instead
we're
discussing
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
new
provincial
cuts
to
those
new
spaces,
and
so
in
April
the
province
announced
an
85
million
dollar
cut
to
childcare.
As
you
recall,
the
wave
of
opposition
emerged
from
this
chamber
and
from
parents
and
kids
right
across
the
province
and
those
retroactive
cuts
were
reversed.
That
was
April
in
August.
I
The
province
announced
that
while
they
had
reversed
retroactivity,
they
were
carrying
forward
with
reduced
cuts
of
15
million
dollars.
We
debated
it
here
in
response
to
yet
again
a
wave
of
opposition
from
this
chamber,
and
parents
and
kids.
Those
cuts
have
now
been
reduced,
but
not
reversed,
and
so
this
really
slow
ripping
off
of
the
child
care
cuts.
Band-Aid
is
proving
to
be
far
too
slow
and
far
too
painful.
I
The
recommendation
in
front
of
us
today
is
to
call
on
the
province
not
to
reduce
the
cuts,
but
to
reverse
them,
and
if
we
truly
want
to
make
sure
that
childcare
is
in
fact,
affordable
and
accessible,
what
we
should
be
discussing
with
the
province
is
how
we
increase
funding
for
childcare,
not
tax
credit,
it's
but
spaces
and
subsidies.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker
I
support.
Obviously
the
motion
that
councillor
cressie
has
put
forward:
we've
been
able
to
work
with
him
and
staff
on
this.
Certainly
speaker,
there
are
challenges
and
pressures
are
facing
all
governments
at
this
particular
point
in
time
we
started
off
with
85.
We
went
down
to
15
and
now
we're
at
2.8.
K
Clearly,
we
want
to
do
more
to
find
mechanism
to
work
in
a
coordinated
cooperative
way
to
be
able
to
address
the
challenges
and
the
pressures
that
are
being
faced
with
respect
to
the
cost
of
childcare
in
this
city.
I
understand
that
you
know
other
governments
have
pressures
as
we
do
as
well.
You
know,
I,
we
haven't
sort
of
invented
the
Quebec
model,
which
is
seven
dollars
a
day
and
so
on.
I
understand
that
there
are
some
inherent
issues
with
that
as
well,
but
in
essence,
I
think.
K
We've
come
a
long
way
and
going
forward
I
think
that
what
we
certainly
hope
is
to
achieve.
Certainly
the
base
level
that
we
were
at
prior
to
the
changes
coming
in
place.
But
if
we're
not
able
to
do
that,
clearly,
we
at
least
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
terms
of
responding
and
addressing
the
issues
that
are
facing
us.
I
note
speaker
as
it
relates
to
the
early
on
programs.
K
I
know
what
I've
been
doing
in
my
own
area
now
has
been
putting
more
section,
37
fundings
to
make
sure
that
we
have
more
resources
available
to
help
in
those
programming,
because
we
know
that
there
has
been
an
impact
on
that
area
as
well,
and
we
know
the
real
benefits
that
is
accrued
to
families
and
newcomers
to
to
the
city.
It's
a
service
that
we
need
to
maintain.
K
Clearly,
we
know
with
respect
to
childcare,
it's
a
service
that
we
have
to
ensure
continues,
we've
heard,
but
the
numbers,
whether
it's
a
waiting
list
of
some
17,000
people.
That's
a
lot
of
people.
I
know
Casa
Cressy
pointed
out
when
you
know
he
found
that
he
and
his
partner
found
that
the
family,
that
his
partner
was
pregnant
and
they
went
ahead
and
and
gone
on
to
list.
I
can
tell
you
speaker
in
my
own
case
many
years
ago,
I
had
the
similar
situation,
the
first
occasion
of
knowing
that
my
wife
was
pregnant.
K
That
will
allow
for
this
opportunity
to
take
place
not
dissimilar
to
the
discussion
we
had
a
day
ago
with
the
city
manager,
and
he
talking
about
the
table
where
all
of
the
discussions
are
taking
place
around
transit.
So
obviously,
is
a
mechanism
place
that
particular
process
is
working.
This
process
is
working
as
well.
With
respect
to
mister
me,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
what's
going
on,
and
is
she
confident
that
that
process
is
is
yielding
some
benefits?
So
again
we
started
at
85
there's
a
33,000
plus
space.
K
We
went
down
to
15
another
760
space,
we're
now
at
2.8
and
a
186
spaces,
so
we
want
to
get
to
that
level
where
we're
not
losing
subsidy
and
so
on,
but
it's
it's
a
process
that
we
have
to
work
through.
So
we
have
the
mechanism,
let's
ensure
that
we
support
the
staff
and
encourage
a
positive
result.
Speaker
thank
you.
H
Don't
know
about
about
about
you,
and
many
of
you
clearly
are
on
a
different
side
of
this
to
me.
I
am
so
I'm,
actually
getting
sick
of
hearing
excuses
for
why
the
province
is
doing
this
to
us.
There
was
an
expansion
plan
for
the
number
of
spaces
and
the
number
of
subsidies
in
order
for
us
to
eliminate
the
wait
list
of
17,000
families
and
in
order
for
us
to
serve
only
half
50%
of
kids
in
our
city
with
licensed
childcare,
we
had
a
plan.
H
We
had
worked
in
conjunction
with
our
provincial
partners,
and
then
this
government
came
in
and
changed
that
plan
and
how
did
they
change
it?
Well,
they
decided
to
hold
us
hostage
over
some
space
expansion
when
they
knew
we
couldn't
reply.
This
was
earlier
in
the
summer
and
then
we
had
to
fight
to
get
them
to
back
off
and
now
they're
changing
the
formula
that
we
have
to
pay.
That's
downloading
the
cost
onto
us.
H
H
It's
gonna
cost
us
a
hundred
and
fifty
million
dollars
a
6%
increase
over
ten
years.
Just
for
this
childcare
file,
so
I
don't
want
to
hear
that
times
are
tough
at
the
province.
When
they
had
an
agreement
with
us,
we
started
to
execute
it
and
then
they
changed
the
rules
yet
again,
and
you
know
what
it
paint
we
pass
motion
after
motions
to
council
stands
up.
H
Centers
we've
been
out
to
child
care
centers
councillor
Thompson,
chair
Thompson's,
been
out
to
child
care
centers
trying
to
work
to
shape
the
public
narrative
that
this
isn't
something
that
should
be
downloaded
on
to
the
city
or
or
worse,
yet
that
we're
forced
to
choose
between
between
one
thing
and
and
actually
funding
childcare
for
our
kids,
which
is
a
decision
we're
gonna,
have
to
make
when
that
budget
rolls
around
and
it's
not
balancing
itself
out.
But
then
the
deputy
mayor
minute,
but
then
deputy
mayor,
min
and
Wong
goes
out
and
shifts
that
narrative
to
well.
H
They
had
to
do
it.
They
had
no
other
choice,
we're
working
at
cross-purposes.
Here
we
have
one
deputy
mayor,
saying
we
gotta
fight
for
our
kids
and
another
deputy
mayor
saying:
well,
let
the
province
cut,
what
of
their
one
choose
a
side,
choose
a
side
and
work
together,
because
we
had
an
agreement
with
the
province.
They
changed
the
rules.
So,
let's
fight
to
get
them
to
uphold
those
those
rules,
not
let
them
off
the
hook
like
deputy
mayor
minam
Wong
just
did.
F
C
My
sense
is
we're
fighting
when
we
have
to
fight
and
and
certainly
I've
tried
to
sort
of
calibrate
that
and
I
think
that's
the
secret
of
trying
to
make
progress
with
this
government
or
with
any
government,
but
I.
Think
with
this
one
in
particular
and
I,
think
the
things
are
heading
in
the
right
direction.
I
think
we
sometimes
forget
that
the
point
on
which
we
can
all
be
absolutely
United
I
believe
is
regardless
of
what
their
financial
problems
are
and
regardless
of
the
fact,
because
I
agree,
we
did
have
an
agreement.
C
It
was
a
plan
that
was
kind
of
stretching
out
over
a
number
of
years
to
address
the
problem.
The
question
really
is
that
I
think
we
can
all
fight
hard
on
together.
Is
that
no
government,
no
government
federally
no
government
provincially
should
be
trying
to
download
responsibility
for
social
programs
on
to
the
property
tax
base,
because
it
can't
sustain
it.
We've
always
known
that
everybody
knows
that
they
know
that
it
was
not
intended.
C
That
should
ever
be
the
case,
and
so
I
think
that
is
the
real
ground
on
which
we
have
to
put
forward
our
case
here
and
advocate,
which
is
that,
regardless
of
what
government
is
there
and
regardless
of
what
their
financial
problems
are,
that
you
know
they're
quick
to
remind
us
of
what
their
constitutional
authorities
are
when
it
suits
them
to
exercise
those
that
I
mean
any
provincial
government.
We
found
that
I
with
the
road
tolls,
for
example,
where
we
were
trying
to
do.
Something
that
was
right
is
still
right
would
have
still
been.
C
The
right
thing
to
do
would
be
on
the
verge
of
being
implemented
by
now,
and
they
when
it
when
they
chose
to
do
so,
exercise
their
power
to
say
no,
but
when
it
comes
time
for
them
to
exercise
their
power
and
I
just
mean
the
provincial
government,
not
any
particular
one
to
say
yes
to
their
responsibilities
under
the
very
same
Constitution
for
these
kinds
of
social
programs,
they
end
up
doing
things
that
in
effect,
say.
If
you
want
it,
you
pay
for
it
yourself,
you
meaning
property
taxpayers.
F
You
madam
Speaker
I'd,
just
like
to
acknowledge
and
welcome
my
city
councilor
from
Portugal
from
the
city
of
nezhoda,
mr.
Sheena
Piedad
much
she's
here
visiting
us
so
welcome
to
Toronto.
She
just
arrived
yesterday
so
another
day
if
you're
into
surfing
surfing.
You
really
know
about
the
waves
of
another
day:
mcnamara
served
their
wave
of
23
meters,
one
of
the
biggest
ones,
and
that
much
is
here
visiting
the
community
and
participating
in
some
event.
Oh
thank
you.
Welcome.
A
F
A
L
L
Okay,
thank
you.
The
council
recess
is
public
session
to
meet
as
committee
of
the
whole
and
closed
session
to
consider
audit
4.1
do
I
need
to
read
the
whole
thing.
It
yeah
cybersecurity,
a
robust
cybersecurity
program
needed
to
mitigate
current
and
emerging
threats,
reason
for
confidential
information,
the
safety
and
security
of
property
belonging
to
the
city
or
one
of
its
agencies,
and
corporations.
A
A
A
B
You
madam
Speaker
I,
will
be
very
brief.
Of
course,
I
will
thank
madam
auditor
and
her
team
for
their
hard
work
on
this
and
city
staff
that
have
also
done
great
work.
I
do
have
a
motion
to
place
and
that's
the
City
Council
request
the
city
manager
in
consultation
with
the
Auditor
General
to
report
to
the
December
17
and
18
2019
meeting
of
City
Council
on
mechanisms
required
that
would
enable
the
Auditor
General
to
conduct
assessments
or
investigate
cybersecurity
for
agencies
and
corporations
not
currently
within
the
Auditor
General's
purview
and
I.
B
L
Quickly
also
I
want
to
thank
the
other
General
another
series
of
outstanding,
although
highly
troubling
reports
I,
do
think
we're
turning
the
corner
here.
I
mean
what
all
of
these
reports
point
to
is
a
fairly
severe
lack
of
accountability
in
the
system.
I
do
think
we
are
starting
to
put
in
place
a
much
better
system
for
accountability.
Both
you
know
we
have
extremely
diligent,
Auditor,
General,
I,
think
the
city
manager
is,
you
know,
highly
motivated
to
insert
more
accountability.
L
The
system
and
the
audit
committee
really
is
doing
excellent,
excellent
work
under
Steven,
holidays
leadership,
so
I
think
the
public
can
feel
reassured,
even
though
these
examples
when
they
hit
the
pay
for
highly
embarrassing
and
makes
it
look
like
we're
wasting
money
very
freely
here.
What
in
fact
we
are
doing
is
we
are
catching
all
those
and
correcting
them
Thank.
G
Speaker
as
quick
as
I
can
get
to
it,
I'm
not
gonna,
move
a
motion
here,
but
I
believe
that
as
I
as
I,
you
know
turn
my
mind
to
to
technology
and
the
the
size
of
technology
and
not
just
cyber
security.
You
know
the
constantly
evolving
and
changing
technology
and
new
equipment
and
software,
and
the
amounts
of
monies
that
that
are
expended
in
this
area.
I
believe
that
there
has
to
be
a
political.
You
know:
division
or
accountability,
section,
I
and
I.