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City Council, meeintg 11, October 30, 2019 - Part 2 of 2
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F
Yes,
thank
you.
If
I
could
just
speak
to
this
very
quickly
region
reason
for
urgency
is
because
conditional
permanent
development
charge
deferral
is
required
to
address
a
delay
in
receiving
CMHC
funding
that
has
been
committed
to
finance
95%
of
an
open-door,
affordable
housing
project.
I've
worked
extensively
with
our
legal
team,
finance
and
building
department
for
this
motion,
and
it's
asking
for
a
five
day
a
conditional
building
permit
and
development
charge
deferral
for
this
project.
E
E
G
B
E
B
A
K
A
A
K
A
F
A
A
A
Mm
11.5
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given
this
motion
subject
to
referral
to
the
Toronto
nice
to
our
community
council,
a
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral.
This
motion
relates
to
an
alcohol
and
Gaming
Commission
of
Ontario
hearing
and
has
been
deemed
urgent
on
favor
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
paper
carried.
A
Mm
11.6
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given.
This
motion
is
subject
to
referral
to
the
executive
committee.
A
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral
on
favor
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
pardon.
Oh
I
didn't
hear
a
story
on
the
item
recorded
vote
on
the
referral.
Okay,
on
the
referral
recorded
vote.
Sorry
I
didn't
hear
you.
F
A
A
A
1Mm
11.8
notice,
okay,
can
I
ask
for
some
quiet.
Please
I.
It's
too
noisy
mm
11.8
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given
this
motion
subject
to
refer
to
the
Toronto
and
Easter
communicant,
so
2/3
boaters
were
required
to
waive
referral
on
favor
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
carry.
A
A
A
A
A
F
K
A
F
A
A
A
A
Mm
11:20
notice
that
this
motion
has
not
been
given
that
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
notice
this
moshus
subject
to
referral
to
the
executive
committee.
A
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral.
This
motion
has
been
deemed
urgent
by
the
chair
on
favor
of
waiving
notice.
Carry
on
favor
of
wavy
and
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
faber
carries,
recording
recorded
on
the
item.
A
Mm
1121
notice
that
this
motion
has
not
been
given
that
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
notice.
This
mulch
is
subject
to
referral
to
the
North
York
Community
Council.
A
2/3
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral.
This
motion
has
been
deemed
urgent
by
the
chair
on
favor
of
wavy
notice,
carried
on
favor
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
carried.
A
1122
notice
that
this
motion
has
not
been
given
a
2/3
vote
is
required
to
waive
notice.
This
motion
is
subject
to
refer
to
the
North
York
Community
Council,
a
2/3
vote
is
required
to
a
referral.
This
motion
has
been
deemed
urgent
by
the
chair
on
favor
of
wavy
notice,
carried
on
favor
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
carried.
A
A
A
A
11:25,
this
motion
has
been
deemed
urgent
by
the
chair.
This
motion
is
subject
to
reopening
of
mm
10.24.
A
2/3
vote
is
required
to
reopen
that
item.
If
we
open
the
previous
counter
decision
remains
in
force,
unless
council
decides
otherwise
on
favor
of
reopening
carried
on
the
item
on
paper
carried.
A
A
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A
A
E
A
A
B
N
B
N
N
A
N
B
N
B
A
I
B
Thank
You
speaker
so
just
interested.
That's
not
part
of
this
audit,
but
it
is
something
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
are
interested
in,
and
here
we
are
looking
at
what
steps
get
taken.
Then,
if
you
determines
or
someone
determines
that
there's
income
coming
in
that
would
take
you
off
of
being
on
rgi
through.
N
You
chair,
we
take
that
case
and
we
either
investigated
ourselves
or
we
provide
it
most
often
back
to
the
housing
provider
depending
on
their
level
of
sophistication
and
investigation.
During
this
audit
we
went
back
to
TC
HC
on
some
of
those,
and
they
were
very,
very
helpful
and
diligent
to
follow
up
the
cases
once
we
identify
the
higher
risk
cases,
so
we
gave
it
back
what.
B
N
What
they
should
be
doing
is
reporting
their
income
in
to
their
housing
provider
during
their
normal
rules,
and
if
we
looked
at
it,
we
would
take
in
every
that
into
account.
It's
not
just
at
this
point
in
time.
We
look
at
what's
been
on
file
for
the
entire
year
and
then
identified
the
ongoing
cases
of
most
risk.
B
N
B
I
For
the
question
so,
depending
on
the
nature
of
the
income,
your
your
rgi
calculation
would
change,
which
means
your
contribution
to
the
next
month's,
our
GI
rant,
would
increase
if
your
rent
increases
above
and
beyond
the
market
rent,
you
would
maintain
your
rgi
eligibility
and
pay
market
rent
for
a
period
of
12
months,
after
which
time
you
would
lose
your
eligibility.
So
it
allows
for
fluctuations
in
income
for
people
who
achieve
greater
income
through
jobs
or
otherwise.
12.
B
G
Kasia
Bava.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
through
you.
So
this
report
was
only
looking
at
our
GI
units,
correct.
That
is
correct.
So
have
you
looked
for
example,
at
the
rent
replacement
units
that
was
secured
through
planning,
so
it
would
be
the
rent
supplement
units,
the
rent,
the
rent
replacement,
which
are
required
to
have
affordable
that
are
maintained,
affordable.
Just
give
me
a
second.
K
G
N
Thank
you
and
through
your
chair,
they
may
have
done
it
on
in
certain
instances,
but
it's
actually.
We
didn't
find
it
to
be
a
regular
thing.
In
fact,
when
we
try
to
do
the
same
thing,
the
consent
form
was
not
what
it
needed
to
be
to
be
able
to
obtain
the
eligibility
information
that
we
required,
and
so
our
recommendation
is
to
fix
the
eligibility
form
and
then,
where
possible,
make
it
an
automatic
check.
So
you
can
do
a
high-risk
eligibility
checks
on
another.
G
We'll
follow
up
on
that
in
a
little
bit,
but
with
regards
to
the
centralization
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
your
recommendation
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why?
Because
I
from
the
experience
that
I
have
is
that
frontline
staff
is
extremely
important
to
actually
get
this
information
on
the
rent
gear
to
income
so
to
have
a
system
that
is
completely
centralized
and
you
actually
don't
have
the
superintendent's
and
these
people
actually
helping
the
tenants
and
helping
them
to
fill
out
the
forms.
I
think
there.
G
N
So,
thank
you.
It's
through
your
chair.
It's
a
bit
of
a
combination
so
in
our
first
report,
our
first
report
on
on
rent
geared
to
income
and
social
housing,
what
we
recommend
it
was
for
the
centralized
waiting
list
doing
the
pre
work
to
make
sure
those
who
get
on
the
list
are
qualified.
That
saves
a
lot
of
problems
down
the
road
when
you're
checking
their
assets
and
you're,
verifying
it
upfront,
and
that
would
be
done
mainly
by
the
city
since
they
should
be
doing
the
front-end
work.
The
information
as
its
updated
to
your
point.
N
The
housing
providers
can
assist
that
it's
just
that
we're
pausing
it
together,
instead
of
in
like
200
different
places
across
the
city.
So
that's
what
we're
doing
so,
so
it
doesn't
take
away
the
provider.
It's
simply
that
when
they
get
their
documents
it's
coming
together
and
they
can
review
so
the
city
will
be
doing
the
analytics
that
we
were
doing,
which
is
which
ones
appear
to
be
holding
properties
which
ones
so
with
the
information
together.
They
can
keep
doing
that.
So,
let's
read
how
it's
a
combination
now.
G
The
two
last
very
last
questions
one
are
asked
to
the
CRA
and
the
second.
How
is
our
choice
based
program?
Can
we
actually
expand
it
to
have
this
capability
and
I
know
that
the
tender,
if
it's
not
out
it's
about
like
we're,
we're
about
to
award
it?
So
can
we
work
with
the
provider
to
have
this
done
through.
M
The
speaker,
yes,
we
are
working
on
income,
verification
with
a
number
of
other
divisions
in
the
city
that
are
also
income,
verification
based
on
their
eligibility
or
at
a
time
frame.
I
actually
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
deputy
mayor,
but
I
will
get
that
for
you.
The
other
part
of
your
question
was
based
and
the
vendor
that
we're
going
with
absolutely.
We
have
the
ability
to
leverage
that
capability,
so
those
two
projects
will
come
together
and
we'll
be
looking
at
opportunities
to
create
that
synergy.
A
G
Yeah
I
just
want
to
say
a
few
words
okay,
I
do
want
to
thank
that
the
Auditor
General
and
thank
everybody
because
we
do
have
almost
90,000
rgi
units.
We
have
many
thousands
of
housing
subsidies
and
now
we
have
affordable
housing,
we're
in
the
process,
hopefully
of
bringing
in
inclusionary
zoning
that
is
going
to
bring
other,
affordable
housing
units
and
to
be
awarding
these
units
to
awarding
this
assistance
in
a
transparent
and
fair
way.
G
Not
just
because
you
happen
to
happen
to
pass
by
or
walk
by
a
building
that
happens
to
be
for
rent
or
not
being.
Actually,
you
know
deserving
of
the
subsidy
as
per
your
income.
I
think
it
is
really
important
as
a
city
we're
investing
a
lot
of
resources,
we're
revamping
the
way
that
we
do
housing.
The
way
that
we
offer
housing
in
the
city
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
bring
technology
and
to
support
our
housing
providers.
G
But
I
do
caution
that
this
idea
of
the
centralization
I
think
we
do
need
to
centralize
it
and
make
it
fair
and
equitable
for
all
the
housing
providers.
However,
they
play
a
key
role
in
ensuring
that
we
have
that
that
face-to-face
contact
with
the
tenants
and
support
the
tenants
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
forms
that
we
need.
The
last
thing
we
want
is
to
have
a
huge
spike
in
arrears
and
to
have
people
being
evicted
because
they
don't
know
how
to
how
to
fill
out
their
forms,
because
it's
all
done
centralized.
A
E
E
Okay,
the
second
category
is
contractors
and
I
mean
I,
can
remember
the
exact
words,
but
essentially
it's
somebody.
That's
doing
a
renovation
landscaping,
some
sort
of
work
on
a
property
and
there's
a
proposal
in
here
to
allow
the
contractor
to
put
a
sign
out
as
well.
We
see
them
all
the
time,
they're
those
plastic
bag
signs.
You
know
it
says:
Jim's
landscaping,
Brad's
roofing.
You
know
that
their
typical
all
over
the
place
and
they're
currently
not
permitted
at
all
and.
I
E
I
E
And
the
third
category
of
sign-
that's
also
new-
is
what
you've
deemed
advocacy
signs.
So
so
we
see
those
in
different
parts
of
the
city
and
to
be
clear,
they're,
not
the
slowdown
signs.
Those
are
handled
differently.
Those
are
signs
that,
let's
say
a
neighborhood
has
come
together
and
said.
We
don't
like
this
development
and
sometimes
you
see
those
signs
pop
up
on
lawns
for
periods
of
time
and
we
don't
have
any
rules
and
we
don't
permit
those
under
any
rules
at
this
point
in
time.
That's.
I
E
Staff
in
the
report
are
acknowledging
that
those
signs
can
exist
and
you've
got
some
some
limitations
on
them
in
terms
of
size
and
such
that
are
similar
to
the
contractor
signs.
But
you
don't
propose
a
time
limit
on
those,
so
in
essence
those
signs
can
remain,
as
is
for
an
indeterminate
amount
of
time.
All
the
time.
E
At
present
just
to
be
clear
to
members,
we
don't
allow
them
at
all,
there's
zero
permission
to
have
those
signs,
and
if
my
neighbor
had
a
sign
up
that
said,
you
know,
stop
the
development
and
I
didn't
like
it.
I
could
call
Emma
lessen,
say
my
neighbors
breaking
the
law.
Can
you
deal
with
that
and
you'd
have
to
go
out
and
figure
that
out.
E
And
one
of
the
principles
in
the
report
is
trying
to
strike
a
balance
between
what
we
know
are
civil
rights
to
to
have
the
ability
to
put
up
a
sign,
even
though
they're
not
allowed
today.
So
one
of
the
reasons
why
you're
creating
a
category
is
to
create
a
permission
so
that
it
this
type
of
work,
this
type
of
activity
can
coexist
with
the
community
through.
E
E
A
sign
creates
an
issue
and
is
objectionable
to
a
neighbor
or
there's
some
negative
aspect
to
it.
Do
you
have
anything
you
can
do
with
the
the
limitations
that
you
put
in
here
other
than
ensure
that
it's
the
correct
size
and
what
I'm
getting
at
is
there's
no
time
limitation
that
you
propose.
So
you
can't
you
can't
advocate
for
it
to
ever
be
taken
down.
It
can
just
remain
there
in
perpetuity
correct.
I
J
Maybe
this
is
for
the
city
solicitor
actually
probably
heard
from
from
councillor
Holliday
that
his
goal
is
to
give
the
tool
give
a
tool
to
MLS
to
be
able
to
take
a
sign
down
if
it's
got
a
problem
with
it,
but
that's
not
actually
what
he's
written
he's
saying
put
a
time
period
in
it.
Does
the
law
look
well
on
us
using
a
time
restriction
to
try
to
get
at
controlling
speech.
F
F
J
J
Right
so
counsel
Crawford
could
I
go
see
so
right.
So
if
they,
if
they
the
reasonableness
test,
if
we
just
sort
of
say
well,
we
wanted
a
way
to
regulate
these
and
we
couldn't
find
a
way.
So
we
said
you're
only
allowed
to
put
them
up
for
a
limited
period
of
time
that
wouldn't
be
kind
of
any
kind
of
reasonable
argument
or-
or
you
probably
can't
think
of
a
case
where
that's
successfully
been
argued.
F
B
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
something
at
committee.
I
think
I
ran
out
of
time,
and
it
does
talk
about
your
private
property
and
I
was
trying
to
discern
there
that
in
many
parts
of
the
city
that
the
little
front
lawn
that
you
have
much
of
it
is
actually
right-of-way.
And
apparently
nobody
will
able
to
put
a
sign
on
the
right-of-way.
Do
I
have
that
correct,
or
am
I
wrong
for.
I
B
B
C
H
B
B
B
Does
we
do
maintain
some
boulevards?
We
certainly
may
not
a
Boulevard
sidewalk
house.
We
do
not
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
house.
The
city
does
not
maintain
that
section.
The
homeowner
has
to
maintain
that
section.
That's
correct
so
I'm
just
going
to
do.
We
not
find
that
odd
that
somebody
cannot
put
an
advocacy
sign
on
the
very
property
that
they're
maintaining
on
behalf
of
the
city.
I
Through
the
chair
understand
the
challenge,
we're
not
trying
to
be
restrictive,
but
we
are
trying
to
limit
the
number
of
signs,
because
these
can,
as
as
written,
they
can
be
out
there
for
365
days.
One
sign
per
property
and
part
of
the
intent
from
the
stakeholders
was
to
minimize
the
number
of
signs.
How.
B
E
Thanks
about
a
speaker,
so
I
had
too
much
well,
it's
two
motions
on
one
page:
I
have
them
displayed.
They
were
pre
circulated
by
the
police
them.
The
first
is
to
put
a
time
limitation
on
the
contractor
signs
of
seven
days.
The
key
in
this
is,
it
doesn't
finish
around
the
idea
of
when
the
work
is
complete.
I
think
it
makes
enforcement
much
easier.
E
Think
if
we're
going
to
roll
out
these
changes,
we
should
take
some
small
steps
start
with
30
days
and
see
how
that
works
out
in
the
community.
So
I
hope
that
these
counselors
find
these
as
reasonable
reasonable
limits
as
we
create
changes
in
new
categories
out
there,
and
you
know
I'm
if
another
counselor
wants
to
suggest
that
we
take
a
look
at
this
after
a
year
or
a
year
and
a
half
I
didn't
build
that
in
the
motion,
but
might
be
worth
seeing
how
it
rules
out.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
O
E
Correct
the
way
that
I
read
the
regulations
is
and
from
the
questions
that
I
got
from
the
executive
director.
Is
they
really
don't
know
when
someone
starts
and
stops
the
work
because
they
could
be
in
the
house
working
on
something
so
pretty
hard
to
enforce,
so
I
think
a
policy
around
just
having
an
absolute
of
a
certain
number
of
days
that
it
may
be
out,
and
if
we're
talking
about
what
the
report
describes
is
some
landscaping
work.
E
O
Hope
you'll
see
this
is
clarification,
madam
Speaker,
because
it
really
is
have
you
ever
renovated
a
kitchen
most
certainly.
So,
if
the
contractor
is
in
your
house
and
there's
an
actual
permit
pasted
in
the
window
for
two
months,
you're
saying
he
can't
have
his
sign
on
the
lawn
at
the
same
time
that
the
permit
is
stuck
in
your
window.
E
For
the
same
logic,
I
think,
if
you
ask
the
next-door
neighbors
if
they
want
to
look
at
a
sign
for
two
or
three
months,
long
I
think
that
becomes
a
bit
excessive
when
we
talk
about
public
policy.
So
if
somebody
is
doing
a
small
job
having
a
sign
out
for
a
week
to
advertise
their
work
as
a
decent
first
considering,
we
don't
allow
them
at
all
and
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
limitation
that
balances
the
concerns
of
everybody.
E
O
F
E
E
Without
a
staff
to
interpret
how
they
figure
that
out,
but
seven
days
out
of
you
know,
I,
don't
know
how
long
contract
could
last
if
you're
cutting
grass
I
suppose
that
contract
could
start
in
May
and
go
till
October.
So
you
know
the
current
proposal
says
that
that
sign
can
be
up
form
a
toll,
so
almost
December
under
those
existing
rules,
because
that's
what
a
grass
cutting
contract
lasts.
F
E
E
A
J
You
I'm
going
to
address
myself
to
councillor
holidays
motion,
particularly
the
second
part
of
it,
as
soon
as
you
begin
to
tell
people
what
they
can
and
cannot
put
on
their
lawns.
In
terms
of
advocacy,
you
run
into
the
very
thorny
issues
around
how
people
are
allowed
to
express
themselves
in
our
society
and
in
our
society
there
are
moments.
There
are
a
few
where
you're
allowed
to
restrict
speech,
and
in
every
case,
as
you
heard
from
the
city
solicitor
the
mean
the
thing
you
restrict
has
to
reflect
your
purpose
in
restricting
it.
J
There
is
no
argument
that
can
be
made
anywhere
that
you're
only
entitled
to
30
days
a
year
of
speech,
it's
a
ridiculous
way
to
try
to
get
in
the
back
door.
If
we,
when,
when
staff
developed
this
policy,
they
put
some
restrictions
on
the
size
of
the
sign,
because
there
are
issues
we
have
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
drivers
can
see.
J
You
know
what
what's
around
the
corner
and
that
we
don't
have
are
all
of
our
front
lawns
cluttered
with
giant
signs,
ruining
the
urban
form,
but
saying
that
that
you're
only
allowed
to
have
an
advocacy
sign
for
30
days
is
absolutely
indefensible.
It's
completely
wrong
and
you
should
just
vote
mill
on
council
holidays
motion.
O
Well,
madam
Speaker
I
hate
to
pile
on,
but
but
I'm
gonna
speak
to
we've
heard
someone
speak
to
part
two
of
the
motion
and
I've
reviewed
it
and
I
occur
with
that.
Councillor
freaks,
but
I
want
to
speak
to
part
one
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
living
in
a
different
neighborhood-
and
maybe
people
have
a
different
attitude.
I'll
tell
you
what
does
bother
people
when
you're
doing
a
render
in
the
house.
The
thing
they
don't
like
looking
at
is
your
dumpster.
They
don't
like
looking
at
the
mess,
they
don't
like.
O
Well,
you,
the
material
piling
up
what
gives
them
comfort
well,
they
watch
your
hosts
being
ripped
apart.
What
gives
them
comfort?
It's
that
permit
sign
that
has
to
be
posted
in
the
window
and
I
got
to
tell
ya
when
they
see
the
contractors
name
in
the
architect's
name
sitting
on
a
sign
on
the
front
lawn.
They
are
comforted
by
the
fact
that
this
is
not
a
fly-by-night
job.
O
O
Thank
there,
please
yeah
the
recommendations
that
staff
put
in
this
report
take
into
account
the
realities
of
doing
work
on
these
types
of
properties
and
I.
Think
we're
really
clear
on
this.
There
are
all
sorts
of
things
about
renovation
that
neighbors
are
bothered
by,
but
the
comfort
of
knowing
a
credible
contractor
in
architect
whose
websites
you
can
get
on
right
now
and
make
sure
they
do
good
work
on
your
street.
Where
your
house
is
it's
something
they
actually
look
for.
O
A
A
O
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
I
too
also
have
an
amendment,
so
we've
been
working
with
TREB
on
some
of
the
bad
apples
that
we
have
in
terms
of
real
estate
agents
that
abuse
real
estate
signs,
and
so
TREB
has
committed
to
work
with
our
staff
to
create
a
system
that
there's
more
cooperation
that
they're
also
going
to
take
it
into
their
own
hands
to
to
penalize
these
people
that
are
not
following
the
rules,
so
we've
been
working
with
them
and
we've
worked
on
this
suggestion
as
well
on
their
side.
G
G
Yep
as
I
was
saying,
I
hope
I
can
get
your
support.
Like
I
said
these
are
initiatives
that
have
been
worked
out
with
the
industry
and
we're
all
trying
to
get
to
the
same
place.
You
know
the
vast
majority
are
people
that
are
doing
excellent
work
and
they
too
get
pissed
off
with
the
ones
that
are
not
following
the
rules,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
collaborate,
two
words
getting
into
the
same
place.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
F
Regarding
councilor
holidays
motions,
I
won't
be
supporting
this
maximum
of
seven
days.
It
is.
It
is
inherently
unenforceable
because
the
time
by
the
time
the
complaint
comes
in
and
a
municipal
license,
enforcement
officer
goes
to
visit,
they'll
be
well
past,
seven
days,
probably
14
days,
then
there's
a
compliance
time
of
two
to
three
weeks
and
then
there's
an
opportunity
for
an
extension.
At
the
same
time,
it's
important
to
realize
that
many
of
the
renovations
done
across
the
city
are
done
by
small
business
owners
they're
the
ones
who
are
usually
family
businesses,
sole
proprietors.
F
They
are
the
engines
of
the
economy
and
I.
Don't
think
they're
asking
the
son
of
the
moon
to
have
their
sign
out
there
and
their
name
on
someone's
property
indicating
that
they're
doing
work
on
site
I
think
the
business
needs
the
support
of
government
and
doesn't
have
to
be
undermined
by
government
and
I.
Think
it's
important
that
we
support
these.
F
These
mama
pop
organizations
to
small
businesses
by
allowing
them
to
post
their
signs
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
adding
more
stress
on
our
municipal
licensing
or
municipal
enforcement
officers,
who
are
already
stretched
to
the
limit.
Now
on
a
short
on
a
short-term
regulation
that
will
be
almost
impossible
to
enforce.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
D
D
O
F
Thank
you,
I,
don't
think.
I
have
a
conflict
of
all
speak
briefly,
just
in
case,
but
just
on
I'd
like
to
separate
the
two
parts
of
councilor
holidays
motion.
The
first
one
I
will
support
because
it
has
to
do
with
private
sides
and
as
much
as
we
would
like
to
help
small
business,
we
really
don't
want
public
property
being
used
for
a
proliferation
of
signs
and
I.
F
Think
seven
days
is
good
enough
advertising
at
some
locations
when
someone's
building
a
new
house,
for
example,
you
could
have
10
or
12
companies
coming
and
going,
and
just
you
just
have
a
big
lack
of
sign,
so
I'll
be
supporting
the
seven
days
on
the
commercial
signs,
because
I
think
that's
in
the
pub
interest
on
the
other
part,
though
that's
members
of
the
public
expressing
their
point
of
view
and
I
think
we
want
to
encourage
that.
We
don't
want
to
put
limitations
on
that.
O
O
O
O
A
Staff
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
concerns
as
well
with
this
item,
but
the
problem
that
I
have-
and
nobody
is
III,
don't
know
why
it
hasn't
been
mentioned.
It's
not
the
signs
that
are
on
the
lawns
as
much.
It
is
the
signs
that
are
put
up
on
traffic
lights
and
hydro,
poles,
people,
advertising
for
renovations
and
plumbing
that
continues
to
be
up
and
and
and
we're
not
removing
these
signs.
A
That's
the
problem,
I
an
issue
that
I
think
that
should
be
addressed
because
those
are
a
nuisance
where
you
see
all
these
signs,
just
taped
up
on
hydro,
poles
and
advertising
business
or
so
forth,
and
that's
not
I,
don't
know
if
that's
part
of
this
bylaw
or
not,
but
I
think
that
this
this
is
an
issue
that
should
be
addressed
rather
than
the
signs
of
someone's
doing
renovations
on
their
front
lawn
to
me,
that's
that's.
That's
important
to
me
and
I
and
I
think
that
at
one
point
we
need
to
introduce
that
bylaw
as
well.
A
If
it's
not
included
in
this,
because
if
you
see
them
everywhere-
traffic
lights
on
hydro,
poles
and
Gardens
and
people
just
advertising
their
business
and
it's
there
forever
until
someone
removes
them
and
we
don't
remove
them
on
city
property
and
they're
all
on
city
property
and
we're
not
removing
these
signs.
So
I
just
wanted
to
express
those
are
my
concerns
when
it
comes
to
science.
F
B
A
report
to
planning
and
housing
on
the
advocacy
signs
so
I'm
sorry
to
do
this,
but
we
keep
running
into
this
at
all
times,
because
one
size
does
not
fit
all
and
I
spoke
earlier
and
asked
questions
about
that.
Right-Of-Way
that
is
half
somebody's
lawn.
Not
it's
just
ridiculous
that
somehow
you
can't
have
an
advocacy
sign
on
part
of
the
city
property
that
you
maintain
365
days
a
year.
B
B
Way
and
there's
places
that
have
tiny
little
spots
then
you're
going
to
get
caught,
then
you're
going
to
get
fined
and
it's
just
not
worth
it.
This
is
something
we
had
to
deal
with
with
the
election
signs.
You
couldn't
have
something
near
an
intersection
well
in
councillor,
Cara
Genesis,
Ward,
there's
large
swaths
of
property
at
an
intersection
in
councilor
long
tabs,
Ward,
there's
no
property
at
an
intersection,
so
people
were
having
their
signs
taken
away
by
MLS
saying
those
are
illegal.
B
P
E
B
Intent
would
be
only
to
refer
the
section
but
I've
been
told
by
the
clerk
that
I
can't
only
refer
that
section.
I
would
prefer.
Okay,
just
send
the
advocacy
signs
and
let's
get
that
fixed
up,
but
apparently
legally.
We
can't
do
that
and
so
I'm
sorry
that
I
wasn't
and
didn't
have
more
things
prepared
today,
but
again
we're
back
on
that.
However,
many
meters
there
is
a
variety
of
way
with
the
small
lawns,
so
I
do
hope.
You'll
indulge
me
counselor,
that's
all
we'll
be
dealing
with
there.
Thank
you
for
the
clarification.
Thank.
A
E
E
L
E
L
E
L
E
L
E
L
The
policy
I
believe
should
be
upheld
to
allow
one
request
per
group,
because
a
number
of
groups
have
already
asked
for
at
least
in
some
cases,
one
additional
request
in
some
cases,
two
additional
requests
and
have
been
denied
in
accordance
with
the
policy.
So,
yes,
there
is
a
danger.
These
groups
will
all
come
back
and
ask
for
the
same.
The
same
requests
given.
E
E
C
K
C
C
K
C
K
C
K
K
The
speaker
I
can't
say
that
it's
exactly
the
same
day,
many
groups
that
come
in
they
do
select
its
various
states.
Some
of
them
tried
to
do
with
a
local
event
that
they're
doing
with,
or
they
want
a
weekend
or
it's
whatever.
The
organisation
works
on
it.
So
this
group,
the
Polish
group,
came
in
they
met
the
criteria
and
they
were
approved
and.
K
E
E
They've
already
had
a
chance
to
have
one
in
in
September
and
I
I
recognize,
there's
some
other
groups
competing
for
that
opportunity,
but
according
to
the
clerk,
everything
has
fallen
in
place
from
a
policy
perspective
and
the
clerk
expressed
concern
regarding
a
precedent
here
and
I'm
worried
that
if
we
grant
this,
it's
gonna
be
really
hard
to
say
no
in
the
future
to
other
groups
that
come
forward
and
say
well.
I've
got
a
second
and
third
day
that
I'd
like
to
raise
my
flag.
So
I
can't
support
this.
E
This
break
of
the
policy
just
because
I
think
it's
going
to
be
unsustainable
in
the
long
run
and
I
think
it's
really
important
that
council
treat
people
fairly
and
I
really
hope
it's
not
taken
as
a
slight
to
the
Moroccan
community.
I
don't
mean
that
in
any
way
it's
just
a
matter
of
as
a
City
Council.
E
We've
got
to
be
fair
to
everybody,
and
we
need
to
be
careful
about
what
we
grant
to
one
group
when
we
won't
be
able
to
fulfill
it
to
other
groups,
and
you
know
I
respect
my
colleague
councillor
ko
Janice,
for
bringing
the
request
forward
for
the
community.
That
may
have
approached
him
on
it.
But
I
think
council
needs
to
think
carefully
about
where
we're
stepping
now
and
what
this
will
mean
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
E
C
You,
madam
Speaker,
indeed,
you
have
to
respect
staff
and
and
and
what
the
work
that
we
are
like
we
have
given
them
to
do
in
speaking
to
protocol
office,
I
think
they're
in
a
position
right
now:
vamp
the
older
cake,
flag-raising
requirements
and
they
were
looking
forward
to
bring
something
to
council.
What
this
says
right
here
is
one
community
that
every
year,
along
with
the
Consul
General
and
their
embassy,
raise
the
flag
on
Independence
Day.
We
have
a
policy
that
says
if
another
group
nonprofit
organization
comes
before
the
community
group.
C
Well,
they
get
to
raise
their
flags.
So
we
have
a
splinter
group,
a
group
that
comes
in
and
says
we
want
to
raise
the
flag
of
the
Moroccan
King
and
on
his
birthday
and
yet
we
sly
of
a
community.
Can
you
imagine
if
we
were
to
do
this
to
the
Chinese
community
when
they
want
to
raise
their
flag
on
October,
the
1st
750,000
Chinese,
or
even
better,
try
to
do
that
to
my
community,
the
Greeks
or,
if
we're
gonna,
use
that
mentality?
Why
don't
we
just
say
to
them?
C
Look,
you
know
you
don't
have
to
do
this,
we're
not
gonna,
allow
you
have
the
parade
and
then
my
colleagues
they
will
not
be
able
to
be
participating.
The
Greek
community
parade
or
the
Italians
are
like
this.
This
is
a
community
that
did
not
have
an
opportunity
to
put
their
application
before
the
other
community.
So
the
only
thing
that
they
want
to
do
go
back
to
my
last
query
as
they've
done
every
year
and
there
is
their
flag
and
the
Esther's
colleagues
over
here,
let's
say:
well,
we
shouldn't
have
any
flag
raising
whatsoever.
C
Guess
what
to
those
colleagues,
more
than
57%
of
our
community
is
visible.
Minorities
close
to
80%
of
Toronto
are
people
that
are
first
or
second
generation
people
that
have
come
to
this
country.
We're
gonna
say
no
to
them.
You
can't
raise
your
flag,
we
cannot
celebrate
Greek,
Independence,
Day,
Chinese,
Independence,
Day,
Polish
independence
say
come
on
folks,
let's
get
real,
let's
allow
this
group
that
has
been
raising
their
flag
every
year
to
do
so
again
this
year.
Thank
you.
F
Very
much
Errol
I'll
speak
really
briefly:
I'm
supporting
cancer
Kari
Genesis
motion.
Originally
there
had
been
some
conflict
and
I
was
talking
to
the
clerk's
office.
There's
some
conflict
because
they
were
fighting
the
the
the
the
the
two
groups
were
conflicting
over
the
city
hall
flagpole
the
pole
here,
and
this
motion
was
amended
to
move
a
Moroccan
flag
quite
appropriately
up
to
North
York.
So
this
valley,
we
have
been
able
to
honor
the
Polish
community
and
the
Moroccan
community.
So
while
there
might
be
some
disagreement,
you
felt
disagreement.
F
J
A
A
O
Go
ahead
so
I
just
want
to
be
I
just
want
to
be
a
clear
of
staffs
interpretation
of
the
scope
of
the
motion,
because
the
name
of
the
motion
really
talks
about
restoring
status
to
a
particular
neighborhood.
But
the
motion
talks
to
doing
an
evaluation
of
the
neighborhood
improvement
area
program
so
which
is
it
what
what
was
staffs
intention
in
the
first
place?
O
K
O
City
and
to
do
the
evaluation,
it
takes
a
certain
amount
of
time
to
gather
the
data
because
it
has
always
been
a
data-driven
and
and
an
initial
study
driven
and
then
staff
recommend
to
us
who
the
neighborhood
improvement
areas
are.
So
that's
going
to
take
a
certain
amount
of
time
so
does
fulfilling
this
motion
really
become
it
just
folded
into
the
evaluation
that
was
coming
in
2020
anyway
and
we'll
just
wait
till
then
speaker.
E
The
really
quick
I'm,
a
speaker
I'm
just
flipping
for
the
motion,
but
I
just
want
to
this-
does
say
Scarborough
on
it,
but
I
just
want
to
be
made
sure
that
this
is
going
to
include
Etobicoke
as
well
through
the
speaker.
Yes,
and
specifically,
the
concerns
I
had
been
standing
for
a
while,
as
the
Etobicoke
Centre
neighbourhood
is
really
large
and
I'm,
not
sure
the
size
of
it
captures.
E
The
diverse
sections
of
it
and
I
did
note
in
one
of
the
earlier
reports
to
Council
on
Children's
Services,
there
was
a
carve-out
in
central
Etobicoke
and
it
stood
out
as
a
neighborhood
in
need
of
some
of
those
services.
So
could
I
take
a
bit
of
assurance
from
this
discussion
that
you
know
you'll
be
looking
across
the
city
and
you'll
include
the
neighborhoods
that
I
represent
in
your
assessment
in
the
future
of
our
whatever
we
designate
his
neighborhood
improvement
areas
through.
K
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
give
some
of
the
background
on
why
this
motion
was
brought
forward.
There
was
a
really
fabulous
report
that
was
published
by
John
Stapleton
and
his
colleagues
and
he's
a
social
policy
expert
and
what
he
did
is
he
looked
at
the
methodology
that
we're
using
for
our
neighborhood
improvement
areas,
and
he
looked
at
the
data
that
we're
using
and
one
of
the
things
he
looked
at.
H
Is
that
we're
deciding
on
them
based
on
income
and
he's
proposing
that
we
may
want
to
look
at
this
by
looking
at
income
minus
shelter,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
in
many
areas
of
the
city,
they
don't
have
turn
of
Community
Housing
and
they're
spending
a
lot
of
their
money
on
rent,
and
this
is
really
a
personal
issue
for
me,
because
this
is
how
I
grew
up.
I
grew
up
in
a
rental
building
in
Toronto.
We
didn't
have
a
lot
of
money.
H
H
The
other
thing
that
we
need
to
look
at
is:
should
we
be
looking
at
commute
times
as
a
metric,
because
areas
of
north
Scarborough
are
spending
a
lot
of
time
commuting
to
their
places
of
work
and,
in
many
cases,
they're
working,
multiple
jobs.
So
there's
something
a
term
I
learned
about
earlier
this
week.
That
I
think
is
really
important
and
we
should
think
about
as
we
do
the
neighborhood
improvement
area
designations
and
it's
time,
poverty
and
their
time
poor
in
Malvern.
H
They
were
time
poor
in
the
neighborhood,
where
I
grew
up
and
that's
because
people
are
working,
multiple
jobs,
they're
spending
all
of
their
time
on
the
bus
and
it's
extremely
extremely
hard
to
get
ahead
when
you're
living
that
kind
of
life
and
I
was
very
lucky.
I
was
born
to
teenage
parents
and
when
my
mother
was
when
I
was
in
grade
four,
she
went
back
to
school.
She
was
able
to
get
a
loan.
She
went
to
college,
but
she
also
worked
a
part-time
job
and
my
father.
H
He
spent
a
lot
of
time
commuting
and
working
really
hard
to
make
ends
meet
and
we
paid
our
rent,
but
there
wasn't
a
lot
more
than
that
and
there
certainly
wasn't
nutritious
food
every
day
that
we
spoke
about
on
Monday.
So
this
is
the
rationale
behind
this
motion.
It's
not
just
looking
about
at
income,
but
looking
at
all
these
other
determinants
that
say
whether
or
not
you
can
get
ahead
and
we
were
really
lucky.
We
got
ahead
and
I
was
really
lucky
because
I
was
able
to
live
at
home.
I
was
able
to
work.
H
Two
jobs.
I
was
able
to
pay
for
myself
to
go
to
school
and
I
have
a
very,
very
happy
life,
but
that
dream
is
not
easy
for
everybody
to
access
and
we
need
to
think
about
that
as
we
go
through
the
next
neighborhood
improvement
area.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
the
background
that
that
was
the
rationale
and
the
thought
behind
this
motion.
I
wanted
to
thank
John
Stapleton
for
having
another
look,
because
yes
I,
believe
in
evidence-based
decision
making,
but
we
need
to
look
at
the
metrics
that
we're
using.
H
We
need
to
look
at
the
data
that's
available
and
we
have
to
continually
evaluate
if
our
methodology
needs
to
be
updated,
and
this
might
be
one
of
those
cases
where
we
need
to
have
a
second
thought
to
look
at
the
methodology
that
we're
using
to
define
our
neighborhood
improvement
areas.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
background
with
you
that
this
is
where
this
comes
from.
It
comes
from
a
good
place
of
good
intention.
It
comes
from
a
report
that
uses
evidence
that
says
hey.
H
We
might
have
to
look
a
little
more
closely
at
North,
Scarborough
and
other
areas
of
the
city,
and
another
area
that
we
might
need
to
look
at
was
in
a
motion
that
was
brought
forward
by
Kristen
Tama
on
councillor
Tama
on
motion
mm
nine
point,
two
six
that
was
looking
at
the
st.
James
town
and
that
is
a
very
similar
problem.
I
think
that
we
have
through
North
Scarborough,
so
hopefully
through
this
important
tree
evaluation,
that's
happening
next
year.
We
can
look
at
these
areas
of
the
city
that
again
have
high
rents.
H
O
Cara
so
managed
Speaker
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
for
a
moment.
I
hadn't
read
the
report
from
mr.
Stapleton.
The
the
motion
stopped
me
because
you
know
I
can
give
actually
even
a
little
more
background
to
the
background
that
the
councillor
McKelvey
provided
us
with
I
have
a
couple
of
tower
block
neighborhoods
in
in
my
area
that
if
we
had,
if
we
had
only
used
income,
we
could
even
abuse
housing
times
income
in
2005,
then
the
peanut
and
Parkway
forest
would
surely
have
made
the
grade.
O
The
level
of
service
was
was
part
of
the
evaluation
and
I
I
stood
in
this
chamber
and
made
a
speech
that
I
resent
when
I'm
struggling
so
hard
with
some
of
the
issues
that
are
going
on
right
now
in
the
peanut
I'm
being
penalized
by
the
fact
that
some
women
councilor,
who
preceded
me
through
the
ages
of
municipal
government,
put
a
rich
supply
of
childcare
into
that
neighborhood
and
and
subsequent
NPP's
put
a
community
health
center
in
and
bam
I'm
off
the
list.
No
priority
neighborhood
for
you.
O
So
I've
been
doing
the
work
on
my
own
and
I
can't
complain.
I
really
can't
complain
because
I've
been
able
to
do
that,
because
it
also
happens
to
be
an
area
of
development
growth
and
so
what's
needed
to
be
done.
I've
done
with
the
the
community
benefits
that
come
from
development
growth,
and
so,
if
we
did
another
evaluation,
I
don't
know
that
I'd
make
the
grade
this
time,
but
there's
been
priority.
O
Neighborhoods
then
we
had
to
review
that
led
us
to
the
neighborhood
improvement
areas
and
the
update
we
started
to
pull
them
apart
and
concentrate
in
some
other
areas
and
I
might
I
might
still
not
make
the
great
because
I've
only
added
more
service.
We
now
we're
at
a
food
hub.
That's
even
dealt
with
a
hunger
issue,
but
all
of
these
are
considerations.
O
Data
is
gathered
to
measure
all
of
those
things.
It
is
not
just
measured
by
income.
The
good
news
about
this
is
councillor
McKelvey.
Well,
she
has
challenges.
We
all
have
challenges
in
our
neighborhoods,
where
incomes
are
lower.
The
priority
neighborhood
that
was
Malvern
was
actually
one
of
the
more
successful
organizations
in
the
beginning.
They
actually
had
a
really
good
priority,
neighborhood
action
committee,
and
they
actually
did
achieve
some
things
and
so
they're
getting
there
in
an
evaluation.
O
They
may
end
up
having
it
restored,
but
I
really
held
the
motion
not
because
I
want
to
begrudge
Malvern
anything,
but
because
I
want,
as
we've
had
going
along
a
look
at
all
the
determinants
of
what
makes
a
healthy
neighborhood
and
then
an
evaluation
that
comes
from
professional
staff.
To
tell
us
whether
or
not
these
are
the
places
where
should
target
the
lion's
share
of
our
resources
and
I
want
to
flag
for
staff.
That
I
will
be
looking
for
an
extra
chapter
in
that
report,
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
promised.
O
If
you
are
not
in
a
neighborhood
where
you
are,
you
have
the
designations,
the
knowledge
of
what
works
that
is
developed
in
those
areas.
The
promise
was
we're
gonna
target
in
these
areas
and
what
we're
going
to
learn
the
knowledge
we're
gonna
gather
about
what
works
and
what
can
surgically
make
a
big
difference
really
quickly
in
a
neighborhood
will
make
its
way
out
into
the
areas
who
may
not
have
the
designation
participatory
budgeting
is
one
of
the
ways
I'm
doing
it
in
my
neighborhood
I'm,
using
whatever
works
but
I'm.
Looking
for
that.
O
Every
time
there
is
an
evaluation
of
neighborhood
improvement
areas.
If
I,
don't
if
I
don't
win
the
Sweepstakes
and
get
a
designation
I
want
the
chapter.
That
tells
me:
what
are
you
learning
in
those
neighborhoods?
It's
gonna
make
its
way
to
my
neighborhood,
where
there
are
low-income
communities
that
need
quick
supports,
maybe
not
the
whole
program.
So
I
hope
that
is
a
part
of
the
evaluation
is
forthcoming.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
Thank
You.
D
Don't
think
that's
the
approach
that
should
be
taken,
I
think
it's
about
looking
at
the
whole
of
the
city
and
there's
variation
of
needs
and
there's
variations
of
challenges,
and
it's
not
all
based
on
where
you
live.
It's
based
on
a
number
of
factors
that
she's
pointed
out
I
know:
I
have
the
largest
public
housing
community
in
Canada,
Lawrence
Heights,
it's
been
a
designated
neighborhood
and
it
is
challenging
it's
much
larger
in
region
Park.
It
is,
unless
it's
not
always
about
Regent
Park,
there's
also
other
parts
of
the
city.
That's
my
point.
D
So
there
are
neighborhoods
that
have
been
traditionally
looked
upon
as
high
needs
and
we
applied
resources
there
and
I
also
want
to
mention.
There
are
marginal
neighborhoods,
like
in
my
ward,
I,
have
an
area
called
the
Laden
and
pathway
area,
it's
on
a
railway
track
built
by
a
developer
in
the
70s
who
built
high
densities,
sold
them
as
condos
and
then
walked
away.
No
amenities,
no
facilities,
zero,
the
only
they
have
a
rec
room
there,
that's
basically
condemned
because
of
mold.
D
So
therefore
there's
nothing
for
the
residents
of
Lawton
so
but
they
always
come
to
the
city
and
say
the
city
has
got
to
put
in
facilities.
The
city's
got
to
put
in
a
pool
this
flash
plan,
a
recreation,
well,
the
city
can't
because
it's
private
property,
so
I
spend
all
my
time
dealing
with
the
condo
board
and
the
condo
board
is
basically
dealing
with
his
own
issues.
So
there
is
an
area
with
working-class
people
that
many
of
them
came
from
Vietnam
as
boat
people,
they've
gone
on
to
university
they've
gone
on
to
great
careers.
D
Now
the
grandparents
are
still
there.
So
what
about
places
like
La
Turton?
How
are
they
going
to
get
help?
As
we
look
at
this
designation,
then
I've
got
another
area
which
is
also
sort
of
lost
in
the
shuffle
and
that's
the
Marley
Ville
area
in
the
City
of
York.
Before
you
were
mayor,
madam
chair
built
one
of
the
most
densely
populated
high-rise
communities
in
Toronto,
right
at
Marley,
north
of
Eglinton
on
the
Allen
Expressway
anyways.
D
They
built
about
ten
towers,
no
rec
center,
no
pool
no
Park,
nothing
of
a
public
amenity
anywhere
near
Marley
Bell,
with
all
these
towers
and
no
public.
So
they
don't
get
any
designation
because
there
are
people.
There's
the
condos
there,
there's
rental
buildings
there,
there's
low-rise
rental
buildings,
they're
all
jammed
into
one
corner
of
the
city
with
no
supports
whatsoever,
recreational
social
net
cetera.
D
We
could
really
help
a
lot
of
people
succeed,
but
right
now
they're
getting
marginal
help
because
they
haven't
been
at
all
identified
as
an
area
of
need.
So
maybe
we
all
have
to
make
sure
we
plead
for
these
neighborhoods
and
that's
why
I
support
councillor
McKelvey's
motion
because
she's
trying
to
do
that
and
I
congratulate
for
trying
to
do
that
on.
A
G
So
we've
created
a
process
to
place,
shelters,
drop,
pins
fairly.
Recent
correct,
that's
correct
in
December,
2017
Council
approved
a
process
on.
How
would
we
select
these
sculptures
so
has
staff
the
staff
have
delegated
authority
on
this
item
so
yeah,
that's
correct
the
decent.
My
position,
the
deputy
city
manager,
has
a
delegated
authority
to
select
the
sites
provided.
G
There's
funding
in
place
within
the
budget
that
we
that
it
meet
the
site
meets
the
requirement
of
the
city's
shelter
and
zoning
bylaws
and
that
it's
included
in
the
annual
shelter
infrastructure
plan
that
we
bring
forward
for
council
approval
every
year.
So
if
we
don't
change
that
process,
can
we
really
tell
you
to
stop
or
pause
or
tell
you
what
to
do
in
respect
to
that?
Okay,.
G
G
This
is
part
of
actually
the
commitment
that
you've
date
we've
done
as
a
council
on
on
the
shelter
system,
occupancy
levels
and
demand
continues
to
be
very
high,
so
we're
continuing
to
focus
on
expanding
the
shelter
system
by
the
thousand
beds
that
council
approved
last
year,
so
we're
we're
slowly
trying
to
add
those
beds
into
the
system
to
try
and
relieve
some
of
the
pressure
that
we're
currently
facing
great.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
P
Wong-Tam,
yes,
thank
you
very
much
with
respect
to
the
the
Downtown
East
action
plan.
That
action
plan
was
largely
constructed
and
devised
with
the
various
stakeholders
in
consultation
of
the
community,
but
all
the
divisional
staff
to
try
to
respond
to
the
epidemics.
The
crisis
that
was
taking
place
in
the
downtown
ease
around
the
lack
of
housing,
the
lack
of
of
adequate
supports
and
structural
deficiencies
and
gaps
around
community
service
provider.
Is
that
not
correct
so.
P
P
P
With
respect
to
that
forum
and
a
regular
meeting,
or
do
you
get
into
the
granular
conversations
about
about
which
facilities
are
performing
well,
which
Priscilla
tees
perhaps
are
underperforming,
how
to
introduce
new
services
when
new
services
are
appropriately
to
be
introduced?
Do
you
get
in
to
that
level
of
discussion
address
by
address
or
street
by
street.
G
P
P
M
Through
the
speaker,
we
looked
at
a
number
of
criteria,
some
of
the
was
size.
We
also
looked
at
buildings
that
were
already
zoned
for
such
use,
because
that
is
and
has
of
right
use.
We
considered
whether
or
not
the
building
was
for
purchase
or
for
sale.
We
considered
the
extent
of
the
renovations
that
would
be
required
to
provide
the
service
that
would
be
required
in
that
location.
We
also
considered
the
people
that
would
be
using
the
service.
P
P
M
Not
sure
how
they
how
they
get
the
delegated
authority,
it's
posted
online
whenever
realist
purchases
a
building
to
notify
that
they
have
exercised
that
delegated
authority.
If
someone
were
to
search
the
address,
they
may
find
the
delegated
authority,
but
it's
not
something
that
is
sent
out
or
shared
under.
P
The
process
and
recognizing
that
this
is
an
a
resource
center,
not
necessarily
a
shelter,
but
under
the
the
the
shelter
process
that
was
adopted
by
Council
in
December
2017.
Does
this
particular
facility
qualify
for
that
process
in
terms
of
engagement,
or
does
it
sit
under
a
different
process?
There.
M
Actually
is
not
an
approved
process
for
drop-in
centers,
in
fact,
when
we
opened
the
original
Adelaide
Resource
Center
and
the
partner
agencies
sistering
in
the
West
End,
there
was
no
consultation
at
all.
At
that
time
it
was
responding
to
an
urgent
need.
However,
this
time
we
are
using
the
shelter
engagement
process
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
engaged
and
is
in
the
position
to
successfully
integrate
the
service.
Thank
you.
That
was
your.
B
B
M
We're
just
in
the
early
stages
at
the
moment,
councillor
Fletcher.
Some
the
program
itself
is
not
anticipated
to
be
open,
til
the
end
of
2020.
Our
typical
engagement
process
begins
about
six
to
nine
months
prior
to
the
opening
of
the
location
where
we
engage
community
liaison
committee.
The
early
engagement
that
happens
at
this
point
in
the
process
is
reaching
out
to
local
stakeholders
to
identify
what
are
the
types
issues
or
concerns
that
the
community
might
have
so
that
in
developing
our
engagement
process,
where
we
ensure
to
take
those
things
into
consideration,
so.
B
Don't
have
a
the
delegated,
let's
be
clear
if
I
understand
it,
you
haven't
initiated
any
process,
but
somewhere
along
the
line,
Real
Estate
Services
has
posted
a
delegated
authority
on
a
public
website.
Am
I
right
to
just
put
it
like
that
that
is
correct,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
that
doesn't?
That
tells
me
that
there's
a
process
already,
because
it's
now
posted
who's
in
charge
over
all
of
the
roll
out
of
the
engagement,
including
understanding
of
the
delegated
authority
letter,
is
posted
on
a
public
website
now
so.
B
You
aware
that
posting
something
on
the
city
website
is
initiating
a
process
it's
already
initiated
at
that
point,
would
you
agree
with
me?
Yes,
I
would
so
there
has
been
no,
you
know,
but
you
don't
have
a
process
to
catch
up
to
that
you're
only
going
to
do
that
now.
So
that's
something's
missing
in
our
process.
Would
you
agree
with
me
I.
M
Think
there
is
a
there's,
a
disconnect
between
the
type
of
engagement
that
community
is
seeking
around
the
siting
of
a
location
and
the
type
of
engagement
that
we
want
to
do
around
the
integration
of
a
new
program.
But
every
time
we
do
a
engagement
process
with
the
community.
We
learn
something
new
and
we
put
that
into
the
process.
The
next
time,
we're
always
interested
in
how
we
can
improve
those
processes
and
learn.
G
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
I'm
gonna
be
very
short.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
work
happening
in
this
neighborhood,
because
there
is
a
very
high
concentration
of
services
in
the
neighborhood,
but
I
think
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
is
actually
to
make
it
better
make
it
better.
In
two
sense,
we
have
a
shelter
system
that
is
stressed.
G
G
This
council
has
committed
to
created
the
services
that
are
in
front
of
us
to
make
sure
that
you
know
when
we
have
the
winter
in
front
of
us
that
we
we
have
as
many
of
these
beds
as
many
of
these
drop-ins
open
as
possible,
we
actually
have
done
a
new
process
to
engage
communities
to
address
the
services
of
the
communities.
I
think
we
need
to
fine-tune
those
processes.
I
think
we
need
to
learn
from
these
experiences.
G
Lee,
listen
to
the
communities
that
we're
working
with,
but
I
think
it
is
really
important
that
we
move
ahead
and
we
open
these
services
and
we
serve
these
communities
as
much
as
we
can
that
we
work
with
the
local
community
and
and
that,
above
all,
that
we
make
sure
that
people
in
the
shelters
and
then
the
community
have
the
services
to
address
these
issues
that
were
the
the
city
is
very
very
difficulty
facing.
So
I
hope
that
that
we
can
have
the
support.
P
You
very
much
if
the
clerk's
can
please
put
the
motion
onto
the
screen.
I
will
be
amending
recommendation
number
three
and
inserting
simply
that
the
deputy
city
manager
of
community
and
social
services
is
to
expedite
a
engagement
process
regarding
the
establishment
of
the
drop-in
at
2:33
Carlton,
to
make
sure
the
local
residents
are
informed
the
decision-making
process
and
that
the
relocation
is
not
going
to
necessarily
tribute
to
any
increase
in
vulnerability
of
service
users
and
I.
P
Do
this,
madam
Speaker,
largely
because
I
recognize
that
recommendation
number
three
originally
contained
in
my
motion
is
procedurally
out
of
order.
The
matter
has
been
delegated
to
staff
and
rather
than
us
not
voting
on
it.
I
would
rather
us
vote
on
something
that
will
allow
the
community
to
be
better
engaged.
Moving
forward,
I've
also
escalated
the
matter
so
that
actually
now
sits
with
a
deputy
city
manager
and
not
necessarily
the
general
manager
of
s.
P
I
would
say
to
recognizing
that
we
all
have
a
responsibility
to
take
care
of
those
who
are
most
vulnerable,
but
it
also
needs
to
be
noted
that
the
good
people
of
Toronto
Centre,
and
especially
those
who
reside
in
the
Cabbagetown
Moss
Park
area,
they
are
also
at
living
with
a
disproportionate
number
of
facilities
and
services,
which
is
why
in
2017,
along
with
my
friend
and
colleague,
counter
Troisi
who's
joining
us
today,
we
both
advanced
a
motion
that
specifically
talked
about.
How
do
we
create
a
downtown
action
plan
that
will
pull
all
these
services
together?
P
So,
therefore,
we
can
actually
encourage
agencies
to
not
work
within
silos,
but
also
work
better
across
sectoral
divisions,
and
we
have
done
significant
work.
The
12-month
the
action
plan
actually
helped
move
that
dial,
where
we
are
able
to
bridge
some
of
the
service
gaps
and
also
have
service
providers,
talk
to
each
other
and
deliver
service
more
efficiently.
Last
earlier
this
year,
council
has
now
adopted
a
five-year
service
plan.
They'll
bring
us
to
2023.
This
is
a
significant
document
that
brings
significant
investments
on
trying
to
once
again
streamline
the
the
service
provision
in
the
area.
P
So
it
was
quite
surprising,
madam
speaker,
to
recognize
that
we
had
put
all
this
work
together
to
make
sure
that
all
the
divisions
and
all
the
agencies
were
coordinating
and
communicating
with
one
another.
Then,
all
of
a
sudden,
we're
being
told
that
there's
a
new
service
as
being
relocated
from
one
corner
of
st.
Lawrence
Market
into
cabbage
town
and
then
the
cabbage
town
is
going
to
receive
a
new
SH
and
then
the
st.
Lawrence
Market
is
going
to
be
receiving
a
new
shelter.
All
of
that
outside
of
the
Downtown
East
Action
Plan.
P
All
of
that
outside
of
any
real
conversations
that
was
formal
at
any
Standing
Committee
and
it's
and
it
has
everything
to
do
with
the
fact
that
the
communities
of
impact
need
to
know
in
advance
what's
coming
in,
so
they
can
also
inform
the
process.
I've
now
spoken
to
residents
who
are
asking.
Why
did
this
happen
when
here
we
were
having
them
at
the
table
coming
to
the
stakeholder
meetings
to
work
together
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
this
surprised-
and
so
it
is
very
difficult
to
establish
trust,
because
this
is
not
a
NIMBY
community.
P
I've
got
two
thousand
shelter
beds
in
Toronto,
Center,
that's
more
than
all
of
you.
So
this
is
not
a
community
that
doesn't
do
its
own.
They
carry
the
weight
of
the
city
on
their
shoulders,
but
to
be
asked
to
come
to
a
table
to
work
on
devising
communication
and
collaboration
strategy.
Cross-Sectoral
to
then
to
be
spirt
surprised
is
I
would
say
erroneous,
so
we
need
to
clean
that
process
up.
P
What
was
happening
and,
to
be
quite
honest,
neither
did
I,
so
we
need
to
be
able
to
regroup
and
make
sure
that
the
community
comes
forward
so
that
they
can
get
the
information
that
they
need
and
they
need
to
do
it
as
soon
as
possible,
and
so,
if
that
means
that
our
deputy
city
manager,
you
know
it
escalates
to
your
office
I,
have
every
confidence
that
you'll
be
able
to
to
bring
all
the
different
parties
together
and
then
to
actually
bring
forth
an
engagement
plan
that
will
work.
That
will
be
clear.
P
That
will
be
very
our
that
will
be
well
articulated,
so
we
will
know
what
service
is
coming
into
Cabbagetown
and
also
what
service
is
then
going?
What
additional
new
service
is
coming
to
st.
Lawrence,
Market
and
I'm?
Sure,
if
you
were,
if
you
were
to
treat
the
communities
with
with
that
level
of
respect
with
intelligence,
they
will
respond
accord.
We
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
B
Yes,
I'm
not
going
to
take
too
long
a
speaker,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
councillor
Wong
camp
for
her
leadership
here
and
do
understand
that
you
do
represent
a
very
caring
and
giving
community
that
has
a
lot
of
vulnerable
residents
and
a
lot
of
shelters,
a
lot
of
drop-ins
and
that
Adelaide
women's
centred
or
Adelaide
women's
drop-in
is
a
really
important
place
for
women,
the
coldest
nights
of
the
year.
They
actually
end
up
staying
there
in
order
not
to
freeze
to
death
on
the
street
and
so
well.
B
This
has
all
been
delegated
to
staff,
and
that
was
one
of
the
changes
that
came
about
through
our
looking
at
how
we
can
be
more
successful
in
establishing
shelters
and
establishing
a
thousand
beds
across
the
city
I'm,
and
that
would
be
a
delegated
authority.
It
doesn't
appear
that
the
start
here
is
making
this
successful.
The
whole
idea
is
to
be
successful.
B
It's
not!
Can
I
or
can't
I?
Can
you
or
can
you
not
have
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
that?
But
how
do
we
have
that
conversation
with
the
community?
So
somehow
you
have
a
lot
going
on.
You
have
your
east
side
working
group,
that's
dealing
with
many
things
and
you've
got
shelters,
you've
got
people
moving,
you've
got
George,
George
Street
Seton
house,
and
you
also
have
some
fantastic
leadership
in
the
community.
B
I
know
the
young
BIA
is
a
fantastic
leader
when
it
comes
to
the
situation
that
people
find
themselves
when
they're
homeless
and
they
were
very
helpful
in
establishing
the
new
protocols
for
establishing
shelters
I'm,
a
little
surprised
to
hear
that
technically,
this
isn't
a
shelter,
so
we
don't
have
to
follow
the
protocol.
That's
just
a
bit
odd
to
me.
It
obviously
is
a
change
in
the
community.
It's
worth
thinking
about
how
to
do
that
in
the
most
sophisticated,
friendly
and
successful
way.
B
Service
providers
are
at
the
table,
helping
others
along
it's
the
process
that
we
set
in
place
and
I'm
I
guess
I'm,
pretty
disappointed
that
it's
starting
off
in
this
particular
way.
We
shouldn't
be
surprised
that
people
go
on
the
website
and
find
things
for
goodness
sakes.
Of
course,
once
you
post
something
on
the
website
now,
you've
started
something
officially,
so
that
needs
to
be
part
of
the
plan
that
doesn't
appear
to
me
that
there's
a
plan
here
so
I'm,
confident
that
there
will
be
very
short
order
and
a
good
plan.
B
A
A
P
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
that
that
the
mayor's
office
and
the
mayor
himself
was
very
instrumental
in
helping
me
reshape
the
the
motion.
Largely
it
keeps
in
it.
Oh,
yes,
and
if
I
can
just
ask
the
clerk
for
that
on
the
screen.
So
in
essence
that
keeps
the
spirit
of
the
motion
that
was
originally
drawn
in
before
you.
P
The
Toronto
library,
so
that
the
Toronto
library
has
their
policies
that
align
with
with
the
city's
anti-discrimination,
Human
Rights
policies
as
well,
and
then
for
a
council
to
reaffirm
our
commitment
to
the
city's
Human
Rights
and
anti-discrimination
policy
and
the
protection
of
residents
from
discrimination,
harassment
and
tolerance,
especially
those
who
are
living
with
homophobia
and
transphobia
targeted
at
them.
And
madam
Speaker
I
just
want
to
say,
I
recognize
that
this
has
been
a
very
difficult
gushin,
largely
played
out.
I
would
say
in
the
public
media,
but
also
in
the
social
media
circles.
P
I
didn't
agree,
but
I
do
think
that
they
have
every
right
to
govern
and
manage
the
facilities,
because
that
was
their
mandate,
that's
the
job
we
gave
them
and
if
there
is
a
process
to
evaluate
that,
then
let
it
be
this
one
and-
and
let's
find
a
way
for
to
fix
this,
so
it
does
not
happen
again.
Thank
you.
E
P
The
part
one
specifically
provide
applies
to
city
policies
governing
public
spaces
right
and
and
I
would
say
that
the
library
I
mean
there
should
be
no
confusion
that
we're
talking
about
the
trial
public
library.
But
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
body
of
my
motion,
there
was
also
a
very
alarming
event
that
took
place
where
we
had
a
street
preacher
at
a
YouTube
personality
that
had
booked
up
a
Meccano,
Aquatic
Center
and
he
was
running
church
services
out
of
that
facility.
P
P
A
P
A
Yes
to
move
the
this
motion
has
been
deemed
urgent
by
the
chair.
This
motion,
subject
to
reopening
by
the
mighty
6.12
a
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
reopen
that
item.
If
reopen,
the
previous
council
decision
remains
in
force,
unless
council
decides
otherwise
on
favor
of
reopening
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
Carrie
mm
11
31
counts
to
Bradford.
Would
you
like
to
move
it
on
favor
Carrie
mm
1132,
counselor
perks?
Would
you
like
to
move
it.