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City Council, meeting 1, December 13, 2018 - Part 1 of 2
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0:04:33 - Meeting resume
A
B
B
Do
note
in
this
report
that
we're
counselor
counselor
Cressy
is
now
the
city's
representative
on
Waterfront
Toronto
I
wanted
to
congratulate
him
for
that
I'm
glad
he's
there.
I
did
not
put
my
name
down
to
be
on
Waterfront
Toronto.
Getting
this
term
I
served
my
four
years
and
if
I
were
to
give
him
any
advice
when
he
goes
down
to
Waterfront
Toronto,
there's
going
to
be
a
big
glass
of
kool-aid,
that's
gonna,
be
presented
to
him
and
I
would
urge
him
not
to
drink
it.
B
The
Waterfront
Toronto
is
an
important
organization
and
it
I
think
it's
gotten
to
some
trouble
recently
over
its
criticisms
over
lack
of
transparency
and
I
hope.
He
goes
in
there,
understanding
that
there's
a
lot
of
important
work
to
be
done
there
and
that
the
public
expects
that
organization
to
be
open
and
transparent
and
that
it's
a
significant
initiative,
things
that
they're
doing
down
there
and
I
hope
he
always
puts
transparency
and
accountability
front
and
center
and
take
the
views
of
this
council
to
Waterfront
Toronto
and
make
sure
that
it
acts
in
the
public
interest.
Thank.
A
A
A
A
Q
members
I
will
now
review
the
order
paper.
Today's
session
is
a
continuation
of
our
special
first
meeting
of
council.
We
have
44
items
remaining
on
the
agenda
as
this
is
a
special
meeting.
No
additional
business
can
be
added
to
the
agenda.
This
rule
cannot
be
waived.
The
mayor
has
designated
the
following
items
as
this
key
matters
for
this
meeting.
The
first
key
matter
will
be
item
st
1.1
on
councilmember
appointments
to
committees,
boards
and
external
bodies.
The
second
key
matter
is
item
CC
1.3
on
housing.
A
Now
these
will
be
our
first
and
second
item
of
business.
Today,
members
I
also
propose
that
we
do
the
member
motions
run
through
as
part
of
the
order
paper
review
this
morning,
as
no
further
member
motions
will
be
submitted
to
this
special
meeting.
I
propose
a
city
council
set
a
time
for
a
closed
session.
It
required
later
in
the
meeting.
A
The
city
clerk
has
noted
the
items
that
members
wish
to
hold.
I
will
now
go
through
the
items
listed
on
the
order
paper
to
take
additional
holds.
I
will
recognize
request
to
make
matters
hñ
and
time
specific
after
I
go
through
the
items
for
additional
holds
once
the
order
paper
has
been
approved
by
count.
So
any
change
when
needed.
Two-Thirds
folks
on
page
three.
F
A
E
A
G
I
I
A
Okay,
it's
not
on
my
screen,
so
my
screens
not
working
all
right,
1.1
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given.
This
motion
is
subject
to
referral
to
the
Etobicoke
York
Community
Council.
Two-Thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral.
The
Toronto
Preservation
Board
has
submitted
a
transmittal
on
this
item.
1.1
a
with
recommendations,
okay
recorded
vote
by
way
being
referral.
Oh.
A
A
If
this
motion
has
get
been
given
this
motion
subject
to
referral
to
the
exact
Executive
Committee,
a
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral
all
in
favor
of
way
being
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
carried
1.3
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given
this
motion
subject
to
referral
to
the
executive
committee,
a
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral
on
favor
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
okay
counts.
The
perks
is
asked
that
the
item
be
held.
A
A
Mm
1.5
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given.
This
motion
is
subject
to
referral
to
the
Toronto
East
York
Community
Council.
A
2/3
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral
all
in
favour
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
carry
mm
1.6
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given.
This
motion
is
subject
to
referral
to
the
Toronto
East,
your
community
Council
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral
communication
mm
1.6
1
has
been
submitted
on
this
item.
All
in
favor
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
carry.
A
Mm
1.7
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given.
This
motion
is
subject
to
referral
to
the
Toronto
nice
to
our
community
councils.
2/3
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral
on
favor
of
waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
carried
1.8
notice
of
this
motion
has
been
given
this
motion.
Subject
to
referral
to
the
Toronto
least
your
community
council,
a
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral
on
favorite.
Waiving
referral
carried
on
the
item
on
favor
carried
1.9
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given.
A
A
A
A
Mm
1.14
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given
this
motion
subject
to
were
brought
to
the
executive
committee.
A
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
waive
referral
on
favor
of
waiving
referral.
Carry
on
the
item
on
favor
carry
mm
1.15
notice
that
this
motion
has
been
given.
This
motion,
subject
to
refer
to
the
general
government
and
licensing
committee
of
two-thirds
vote
is
required
to
a
referral
on
favor
way
being
referral.
F
J
Much
madam
Speaker,
on
page
three
CC
one
point:
six
engagement
with
the
province
on
Toronto's
transit
system,
I
request
that,
because,
as
matters
of
significant
public
interest,
I
know
that
there
are
a
number
of
community
organizations
and
as
well
as
elected
representatives
who
would
like
to
be
in
the
Chamber's
when
that
debate
takes
place.
I
would
request
that
we
time
this
item
to
be
heard
immediately
after
lunch.
Okay,.
A
J
A
A
Members
of
council
I
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
preparing
emotions
in
advance.
The
clerk
staff
are
here
to
help
you
prepare
your
motions
in
particular,
if
you
intend
to
move
emotion
during
the
release
of
holds,
I
will
insist
that
your
motion
be
prepared
in
advance
and
given
to
the
clerk.
If
you
do
not
have
your
motion
ready,
I
will
not
recognize
you
and
I'm
also
reminding
members
that
you
must
state
your
motion.
First
before
you
speak
to
it,
we
will
now
go
to
the
mayor's
first
key
item,
which
is
st
1.11.
L
On
a
point
of
order,
I
have
a
motion
that
I'd
like
to
put
in
front
of
the
council
that,
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
chapter
27
council
procedures,
City
Council,
reconsider
item
C
C
1.1
only
as
it
pertains
to
the
composition
of
the
Toronto,
Transit,
Commission,
board
of
directors
and
I.
Believe
I've
there's
been
some
correspondence
between
me
and
the
striking
committee
as
to
as
to
as
to
that
matter.
Okay,.
A
L
Map
speaker
I,
will
move
that
City
Council
amend
the
composition
of
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission
board
of
directors,
so
that
it
is
only
reduced
by
one
council
member
so
that
the
composition
of
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission
board
will
be
six
members
of
council,
including
the
chair
and
four
public
members,
and
that
part
v.
Dot
n
of
council's
decision
will
be
amended
accordingly.
A
L
Well,
first
of
all,
madam
Speaker
I
want
to
thank
the
members
of
council
for
their
cooperation
in
in
doing
something
slightly
different,
this
time
with
respect
to
the
timing
of
people
filling
out
the
sheets
with
respect
to
their
wishes.
Oh
I
have
a
motion,
of
course,
which
is
to
I
would
move
that
councillor
Shelley
Carroll
be
appointed
to
fill
the
make
the
newly
created
now
vacancy
on
the
TTC.
L
Carol
will
she's
always
taken
a
keen
interest
in
these
matters
and
will
be
a
welcome
addition
to
the
ranks
of
the
TTC
and
I
think
it
will
again
probably
cement
the
fact
that
we
have
a
good
balance
of
representation
from
the
City
Council
on
that
most
important
of
bodies
and
I'll
just
say
going
back
to
where
I
started.
That
I
would
thank
the
members
of
council
for
their
cooperation.
It's
a
difficult
process
because
even
with
25
and
practical,
perhaps
it
might
even
be
the
case,
especially
with
25
and
with
a
reduced
number
of
committees.
L
It's
harder
to
accommodate
everybody's
wishes,
but
we
did
manage
to
come
up
with
a
an
orientation
of
people
that
has
92
percent
of
people
on
the
council.
Getting
their
first
or
second
choice.
Committees
and
I
would
just
say
that
I
hope
that
now
we
can
move
forward
to
get
the
business
of
council
done
and
the
business
of
the
committee's
and
to
advance
the
agendas
that
the
voters
were
interested
in,
some
of
which
we're
going
to
begin
to
deal
with
today.
L
But
we
did
work
hard
within
the
context
of
a
smaller
council
on
a
smaller
number
of
committees
and
board
opportunities
to
to
try
and
reach.
As
best
we
could
a
fair
reflection
of
the
wishes
of
the
councillors.
So
on
that
note,
I
will
just
take
my
seat
and
not
use
the
time
that
otherwise
would
be
available
to
me.
Thank.
B
But
I'm
sure
it
might
be
out
of
order,
but,
however
I
do
want
to
point
one
thing
out
that
in
the
new
boundaries
my
name
is
put
on
the
list
to
be
on
the
Kennedy
BIA.
My
boundary
now
starts
north
of
401
versus
when
Castro
Kelly
was
there
and
started
at
Ellesmere.
So
I'd
like
to
take
my
name
off
Kennedy
BIA.
B
A
M
A
M
N
C
Obviously,
history
will
will
tell
whether
or
not
there
was
an
earnest
effort
to
bring
the
city
together
and
reflect
every
part
of
the
city
on
all
the
major
committees
or
not,
but
I
certainly
respect
the
fact
that
the
mayor
has
an
agenda
that
he'd
like
to
see
this
through
to
fruition
and
we'd
like
to
work
with
people
who,
he
believes
will
be
able
to
do
that.
Work
on
his
behalf.
H
G
C
Think
of
all
the
different
things
that
I
would
have
liked
to
work
on.
As
far
as
the
committee's
the
only
committee
that
we
indicated
to
the
mayor's
office
that
I
wouldn't
like
to
sit
on
again
because
I
was
sort
of
put
there
for
a
couple
of
terms,
was
the
licensing
committee
and
I
think
we
even
joked
and
in
a
very
friendly
manner
about
you
know,
maybe
one
day
I'll
be
released
from
from.
N
C
From
the
you
know,
from
from
that
assignment,
but
but
there
there
we
go
Here
I
am
there
again,
but
what
I
want
to
say
is
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
his
confidence
in
the
work
that
I
do
on
the
licensing
committee.
You
know
as
as
much
as
I
protest
as
much
as
I
demand.
Please
don't
put
me
there.
Clearly,
the
mayor
has
decided
that
I've
done
a
proficient
job.
C
That
I've
been
committed
to
the
assignments
that
I
have
been
entrusted
to
to
work
on
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
my
colleague,
councilor
Fillion
and
chair
Ainsley
and
the
rest
of
the
committee
on
doing
important
work.
I
remember
actually,
last
term,
we
work
together
on
implementing
the
rent
sage
initiative,
which
protects
the
rights
of
tenants
across
the
city,
and
there
are
many
other
initiatives,
I'm
very
proud
of
that
I
worked
on
that
committee
I'm
also
by
the
way.
My
first
choice
for
the
special
committee
was
audit
and
Thank
You.
Mr.
C
mayor
for
appointing
me
to
that
so
bottom
line
is:
we've
all
got
things
that
we
want,
and
there
are
one
or
two
of
us
that
don't
but
bottom
line
is.
We
need
to
work
together
to
make
sure
that
these
committees
function
well,
that
we
get
the
work
done
and
we
do
a
good
work
for
the
city
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
mayor
and
the
rest
of
the
council
on
making
sure
that
all
the
priorities
of
the
city
are
achieved.
Exemplary
and
we
do
good
work
for
the
people
of
Toronto.
Thank
you.
E
You
very
much
for
them.
Speaker
I,
have
a
motion
that
city
council
appoint
councillor,
Jennifer
McKelvey
to
the
Toronto
atmospheric
fund,
board
of
directors
for
a
term
of
office
until
December,
31st,
2020
or
and
until
a
successor
is
appointed.
There
is
one
spot
that
we
had
not
filled
for
the
Toronto
atmospheric
fund
board,
I'm
happy
to
say
that
jennifer
has
agreed
to
to
take
on
that
role.
I
approached
her
because
I
think
that
she's
depakene
interest
and
the
subject
turns
out
she
likes
reading
grants
so
she'll
be
officially
joining
me
on
the
grants.
E
Advisory
committee
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
her
advice
about
what
grants
should
be
given
in
that
regard.
I
also
like
to
thank
the
striking
committee
for
and
and
and
the
mayor
for,
putting
forward
the
the
recommendations.
I
think
in
some
cases
there
there
are
those
of
us,
including
myself,
that
that
got
on
many
of
the
committees.
I
was
really
hoping
to
get
on.
E
Unfortunately,
I
think
that
I
haven't
done
the
a
graph
of
seeing
if
we
could
accommodate
everyone's
requests,
but
but
I
really
truly
hope
that
that
work
was
done
and
in
fact
we
are.
We
were,
we
were
put
in
a
position
where
we
needed
to
fill
seats
on
licensing
rather
than
putting
people
there
that
wouldn't
have
otherwise
wanted
to
be
there.
E
Fortunately,
for
me,
I
found
councillor
Carol
and
councillor
McHale
be
willing
to
change
what
their
original
preferences
were
and
in
order
to
accommodate
that
board
and
in
the
future,
I
think
when
we're
trying
to
fill
those
types
of
vacancies,
that
I
think
that
that
approach
may
may
be
a
worthwhile
one.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
This
is
just
in
relation
to
what
councillor
Thompson
said.
My
name
was
put
on
the
list
for
the
Wexford
BIA
I,
know
I,
think
I
know
my
ward
pretty
well
that
I'm,
not
in
the
Wexford
area
and
I,
think
it
was
an
administrative
error
and
I
quite
simply
didn't
look
because
I
don't
have
a
BIA
in
my
ward,
so
I'm
just
none
I
do
not.
H
B
I
would
say
to
that:
that's
a
reflection
of
being
able
to
do
business
and
award
without
needing
necessarily
a
BIA
and
in
an
extra
form
of
taxation
of
all
in
terrorist,
so
I'm
just
state.
My
understanding
from
the
clerk's
office
is.
This
is
an
administrative
matter
that,
if
my
award
is
not
in
the
geographic
area
of
the
Wexford,
BIA
I
will
be
automatically
removed.
I
A
G
O
E
O
E
O
E
E
E
O
Through
the
chair
number
of
those
decisions
used
to
be
made
directly
by
City
Council,
however
Canada
Mortgage
and
Housing
Corporation
is
expecting
that
the
projects
that
they're
funding
are
supported
by
the
city's
wrong.
So
it's
more
of
a
partnership
arrangement
now,
as
opposed
to
the
city
making
its
own
independent
decisions.
Why
was
that
change
made
through
the
chair?
O
E
O
E
P
The
speaker,
the
current
currently
required
process,
is
to
bring
forward
first,
an
official
plan
amendment
that
sets
the
framework
for
the
inclusionary
zoning
bylaw
and
then
an
inclusionary
bottle
after
that.
So
we're
in
the
process
of
preparing
that
official
plan
amendment
and
the
first
step
there
is
to
prepare
a
housing
needs
assessment.
So
we've
retained
consultants
to
work
on
that
that
process
is
underway
and
we'll
be
bringing
forward
that
material
through
the
course
of
2019.
E
E
Cordarrelle,
a
drop,
the
draft
policy
will
come
at
the
same
time
as
the
official
plan
amendment
so
that
we
can
do
it
well.
The
draft
policies
are
the
official,
are
the
Official
Plan
men,
so
we
can
move
all
those
steps
forward,
we'll
be
working
as
expeditiously
as
possible.
Okay,
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
I
P
Currently
we're
working
with
TCH
on
a
number
of
specific
applications.
The
the
replacement
of
those
housing
units
is
the
first
order
of
business.
Of
course,
the
opportunity
to
add
units
on
a
TCH
site
is
canvassed
specifically
in
the
course
of
those
applications.
Certain
implications
of
adding
development
on
those
sites
are
reviewed,
there's
no
program,
ik
large
measure
underway,
for
that
they
happen
on
a
site
by
site
basis.
Right
now,
there's.
I
I
So,
as
the
shareholder,
the
there
is
no
just
interests
as
a
shareholder,
there's
no
policy
there
that
would
require
an
increase
in
affordable
housing
at
the
time
when
these
applications
are
coming
forward.
That's
what
I
have
we
don't
have
that
policy
its
site
by
site
they're
determining
that
right?
That's.
I
O
I
There
was
a
federal
program:
let's
call
it
federal
program
that
allowed
for
very
large
developments,
even
up
into
the
80s
and
I'll
just
note
that
I
uncocks
well
Avenue
and
the
other
side
of
my
ward.
There
is
a
large
seniors
building
large
mixed
income,
rgi
low
end
of
market
rent
buildings
that
were
built
entirely
affordable
housing,
but
with
money
from
the
federal
government,
counselor.
O
You're
you're
correct
in
that
it
is
essentially
social
housing
and,
through
the
chair,
essentially
as
well
operating
subsidies
were
attached
to
those
programs
that,
since
the
1993-94
period
of
time,
have
been
discontinued
by
both
the
federal
and
provincial
governments
on
new
developments.
So
those
projects
continue
to
receive
those
subsidies,
but
the
new
developments
that
occur
there
are
not
federal
provincial
operating
subsidies
so.
I
We're
looking
at
CMHC
and
looking
at
how
they're
going
to
be
erecting
housing
or
building
housing?
Is
there
any
clue
as
to
how
we
could
move
back
to
getting
more
operating
subsidies
from
the
federal,
obviously
from
the
federal
government,
or
even
from
the
provincial
government,
in
order
to
meet
the
needs
of
very
low
income
through.
O
I
A
R
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Through
you
to
staff,
I
know
what
the
school
board
under
the
Education
Act
under
regulation
for
for
for
surplus
declarations
have
to
be
circulated.
The
properties
have
to
be
circulated
to
other
a
government
bodies.
Are
we
bound
by
the
same
rules
when
we
declare
these
surplus?
Do
they
do
other
government
bodies
get
first
right
of
refusal
to
purchase.
R
They
do
not,
so
we
can
go
into
the
open,
open
market
right
when
it
comes
to
the
open
markets.
This
is
a
housing,
affordable,
housing
initiative.
How
do
we
put
in
place
conditions
on
sale,
or
do
we
put
in
conditions
on
sale
that,
whatever
goes
up
there
must
be,
must
meet
certain
criteria
based
on
our
planning
process
and
based
on
our
our
goals
of
having
affordable
units.
O
R
They
would
be
sold
on
the
condition.
That's
a
certain
number
of
units
be
available
for
a
certain
length
of
time
at
a
certain
I
guess,
a
certain
rate,
whether
it's
the
seventy
five
percent
of
market
or
we
set
those
standards
in
advance.
Any
buyer
would
know
what
they
would
have
to
construct
there
in
order
to
be
an
eligible
purchaser
for.
R
These
these
properties
are
quite
varied,
unfamiliar
in
particular
with
50
Wilson
Heights.
It's
part
of
the
tippet
regeneration
area,
which
we
worked
on
for
years
and
we
were
very
aggressive
in
in
securing
250,
affordable
units
in
the
southern
part
of
the
regeneration
area.
I
guess
maybe
this
is
two
planning,
but
do
we
have
to
reopen
this
has
been
approved
by
council?
Do
we
have
to
reopen
that
that
whole
discussion,
which
we
spend
years
on
to
to
make
this
this
happen.
P
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
process
associated
with
each
site
will
be
canvassed
in
the
review.
This
is
the
this
is
the
kickoff
for
this
initiative,
so
we're
actively
reviewing
what
requirements
are
included
with
each
of
the
sites
that
have
been
identified,
coordinating
that
with
the
housing
office
and
create
teo
and
cities
real
estate.
Stop
so
we'll
be
coming
forward
to
you
in
January,
with
more
of
a
comprehensive
look
at
each
site
and
what
the
road
map
looks
like
for
each
site.
R
And
when
it
comes
to
affordable
housing,
it's
always
been
my
understanding
that
we
make
sure
that
it's
spread
out
as
much
as
we
can
throughout
the
city.
So
so
it's
available
in
in
key
neighborhoods,
rather
than
clustered
I.
Look
at
I,
look
at
this
site
and
there's
a
TCH
building
right
across
the
street.
There's
a
TCH
building,
I,
don't
know
maybe
100
meters
away
and
of
course,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we've
secured
250,
affordable
housing,
ownership
and
rental
units
in
the
same
neighborhood.
R
O
Let's
revisit,
though,
the
amount
of
demand
there
is
in
Toronto
for
affordable
housing
and
also
recognize
that
the
kind
of
housing
that
is
being
proposed
as
per
the
questions
councillor
Layton,
was
suggesting
also
provides
housing
for
key
workers
in
our
economy,
nurses,
teachers
and
assistants
and
other
people
that
actually
require
housing
and
are
unable
to
find
it
in
Toronto.
The
sites
that
are
being
identified
as
part
of
the
mayor's
communication
are
all
essentially
transit
orientated
sites.
O
R
O
Through
the
chair,
I
think
it's
premature
to
speculate
on
it.
What
will
happen
on
any
particular
development?
There
may
be
some
developments
that
are
a
hundred
percent,
affordable
housing,
where
they're
very
small
and
with
they're
developed
by
nonprofit
organizations
and
organizations
that
support
people
with
disabilities
and
seniors
as
well,
but
in
other
instances,
you'll
probably
see
buildings
which
are
purpose-built
rental
with
a
component
of
affordable
housing
and
also
ownership
housing
that
we
would
expect
to
see
some
component
that
would
be
affordable
to
the
average
Torontonian.
Thank.
O
M
M
Maybe
I'll
ask
the
mayor
that
question,
but
you,
as
a
staff
member,
responding
to
what
is
a
crisis
in
the
City
of
Toronto
terms
of
people
who
our
needing
to
be
house
calling
for
more
housing
and
so
on.
What
is
that
actual
number
that
we
internally
have
either
arrived
at,
determine
or
have
been
told
that
exists
in
the
City
of
Toronto
in
terms
of
the
deficiency
that
exists?
What
is
that
number?
What
are
we
trying
to
achieve
in
terms
of
a
number
that
this
11
sites
that
you
have
here?
That's
terrific!
Well,
what's
our
goal?
O
The
chair,
that's
a
complex
question,
to
ask:
ask
relative
to
a
number
of
different
tools
that
were
using
to
assist
people
in
Toronto
that
are
in
need
within
the
full
housing
continuum.
But
council
had
adopted
a
target
of
one
thousand
units
a
year
of
new
rental
housing
that
would
be
affordable.
It's
very
clear
that
since
that
target
was
adopted
in
2009
and
what
has
happened
in
the
housing
market
in
Toronto
and
the
growth
of
need
that
that
number
is
insufficient
and
that
we
have
to
exceed
that
right,
and
so
the
40,000
number
is.
M
I
appreciate
that,
do
you
envision
us
being
able
to
be
successful
in
terms
of
addressing
the
shortage
that
exists
in
the
city
today,
simply
through
the
government
process?
What's
the
role
of
the
private
sector
and
what
mechanism
do
we
actually
have
in
place
in
order
to
invite
them
in
to
participate
in
order
to
address
this
fundamental
challenge
that
we
have
in
the
city
through.
O
The
chair,
the
councillor
staffer
reporting
on
this
item-
that's
before
you
today
in
January,
and
our
January
report
will
address
that
question
as
to
who
else
needs
to
be
involved
and
I
would
suggest
to
you
that
it's
an
all-hands-on-deck
approach
that
will
require
the
private
sector
as
well
as
nonprofits
and
other
organizations
that
actually
have
never
worked
in
this
field.
With
great.
M
Respect
through
you,
madam
a
chair,
I,
don't
mean
to
be
argumentative
or
anything
like
that,
but
when
Mel
Aspen
was
the
mayor
of
Toronto,
there
was
a
great
desire
to
address
this
issue
around
affordable
housing,
the
lack
of
housing
and
so
on.
It's
almost
20
years
later
that
we're
still
talking
about
this
particular
issue
and
we're
talking
in
terms
of
wanting
to
have
more
rapport
wanting
to
put
in
recommendations
and
so
on
so
forth,
while
a
lot
of
people
are
being
impacted
greatly,
I'm
just
wondering
with
respect
to
the
acceleration
and
I
realize
this.
M
This
is
part
of
that
from
your
expert
opinion,
because
I
know
you're
an
expert
you've
been
at
this
for
very
long
10
I
have
great
respect
for
you.
How
do
you
see
us
really
affecting
the
changes
that
are
necessary
in
order
to
address
this
crisis
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
because
more
reports,
more
reports
and
government
reports,
and
so
on
are
not
really
addressing
the
problem
that
exists
clearly
in
my
ward
and
I
just
suspect
every
Ward
in
this
in
this
in
this
chamber.
So
how?
What's?
What's
the
real
plan?
More.
O
Studies
know
through
the
chair
councillor:
we
need
more
action,
we
need
a
quicker
and
we
need
everybody
working
together,
including
the
federal
and
provincial
governments,
supporting
the
initiatives
that
the
city
is
getting
behind.
Building
new,
affordable
housing
is
one
of
a
number
of
things
in
a
toolbox,
but
one
of
our
challenges
is:
we
also
have
individuals
that
are
in
our
homeless
and
shelters
that
need
supportive
housing,
and
so
we
need
the
tool
that
up
as
well.
A
K
You
and
I'm
gonna
pick
up
on
some
of
the
questioning
from
councillor
Thompson,
so
this
plan
seems
to
be
using
the
tools
that
we
have
but
trying
to
expedite
and
make
it
a
lot
quicker
to
get
action.
A
lot
faster
is
that
what
you're
trying
to
to
get
out
of
this
plan
to
use
the
tools
and
the
resources
that
we
have
at
our
disposal
through.
O
O
O
We
believe
that
the
success
and
I
think
I
speak
for
all
staff
here
of
Toronto
and
housing.
People
is
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
live
in
any
neighborhood.
That's
what
our
housing
Charter
says
and
also
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
live
in
mixed
income
communities
where
there
are
not
gates
or
prohibitions
against
them
living.
So.
K
K
Ideally,
you
want
to
have
projects
that
have
some
level
of
deep
affordability.
I
mean
I.
Remember
that
when
we
had
200
Madison,
we
went
as
down
as
40%
CMHC.
All
the
way
to
80%
is
that
the
kind
of
mixed
income
to
serve
different
levels
of
affordability
that
we're
gonna
try
to
get
with
some
of
these
sites.
Well,
with
all
of
the
size
that.
K
Would
be
the
objective?
Okay
and
the
other
thing
is
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
dispose
100%
of
the
land.
I
know
that
in
other
scenarios
we
have
considered,
for
example,
ninety
nine
year
old
leases
and
be
able
to
still
own
the
land
and
respond
to
our
the
needs
of
our
city.
Will
you
be
considering
that
as
well
through.
K
F
F
Specifically
in
helping
them
develop
a
business
case,
you
have
that
expertise
in
your
office
through
the
Terios
we
do.
Okay,
the
federal
government
has
made
I've
lost
count
of
how
many
announcements
of
how
of
them
having
a
housing
program,
is
any
part
of
that
housing
program,
making
money
available
to
municipalities
and
not-for-profits
and
co-ops
for
direct
social
delivery
of
affordable
housing.
It's
intended
to.
Yes,
it's
intended
to
okay.
F
At
the
beginning
of
last
term,
we,
the
mayor
similarly
made
affordable
housing
a
priority
and
and
launched
the
mayor's
task
force.
One
of
the
recommendations
in
there
was
to
achieve
a
different
mix
of
people
on
how
you
know:
rent
geared
income
to
people
in
market
units
I
believe
it's
currently
a
TCH
see
90/10
and
the
idea
was
to
get
to
70/30.
Have
we
taken
any
steps
to
achieve
that.
O
O
F
F
A
H
You
mister
again
a
question.
First
of
all,
I
think
he
referred
to
the
importance
of
having
affordable
housing
or
reasonably
priced
housing
for
people
who
have
to
be
a
near
work
place
that
there's
becoming
a
real
challenge
now
for
some
employers
to
basically
attract
workers
because
they
can't
find
affordable
housing
close
to
where
they
work.
Well,
this
help
in
any
way,
possibly
through.
O
The
Jerry,
absolutely
this
initiative
would
help
recognizing
that
the
11
sites
are
all
primarily
on
transit
locations
and
subway
locations
and,
as
a
result,
mixed
income
housing.
There
provides
the
opportunity
for
lower-income
workers
and
individuals
and
families
to
not
have
to
own
a
car
and
not
have
to
live
in
far
reaches
of
the
city
or
live
outside
of
the
city,
but
actually
live
and
have
affordable
housing,
while
at
the
same
time
keeping
their
own
cost.
H
H
And
the
other
question
I
had
do
we
have
any
numbers
or
if
I
can
get
them
later
of
the
number
of
people
who
move
to
Toronto
every
year
and
of
those
people
who
are
moving
to
Toronto?
How
many
are
in
need
of
affordable
housing
or
can
get
by
with
market
rent?
So
do
we
have
any
numbers
and
every
year
how
many
people
actually
come
to
Toronto
I.
P
Think
I
speak.
Our
net
growth
is
in
the
order
of
thirty
five
thousand
people
that
that's
our
population
growth
annually,
estimated
of
course,
and
we've
been
discussing
the
importance
of
affordable
housing
and
the
nature
of
of
income
levels,
and
that
that
we
need
to
support
and
again
the
range
of
our
workforce,
whether
it
be
administrative
assistants,
teachers,
we
need
to
support
the
widest
possible
range
of
income
levels
and
the
full
spectrum
of
housing
that
would
be
necessary
to
support
the
composition
of
those
three
five
thousand
that
are
arriving
here
every
year.
Do.
H
P
That
underscores
speaker
the
importance
of
the
both
the
housing
needs
assessment
that
we're
doing
for
inclusionary
zoning
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
for
the
next
ten
year
plan
to
get
a
better
handle
on
what
metrics
we
need
to
establish
to
hit
those
goals.
It's
an
excellent
question
and-
and
these
exercises
are
intended
to
to
get
a
better
handle
on
and.
H
P
J
You
very
much
madam
Speaker.
Under
the
open
door
policy
program,
the
the
business
model
has
generally
been
to
declare
land
as
surplus
and
then
go
to
the
market,
hoping
that
you
can
find
a
developer
to
then
build
some
form
of
affordable
housing
with
some
mixed
income.
Mixed-Use
communities
is
that
the
same
approach?
That's
being?
Is
that
the
intended
approach
here
as
well
I.
J
O
The
chair,
counselor,
we
were
actually
quite
pleased
with
the
outcomes
we
achieved
in
the
open
door
program,
but
we've
also
recognized
that
we
can
do
better
and
and
so
we're
gonna
require
longer
affordability
periods
as
I've
described,
and
also
look
at
deeper
affordability.
The
difference
here
with
the
11
sites
is
that
we're
also
gonna
leverage
the
land
value
associated
with
those
sites
to
help
achieve
those
objectives,
and
so.
J
O
Through
the
chair,
it
also
can
include
long
term
leasing,
as
was
done
in
the
West
Don
lands
with
the
Ontario
government
and
so
I
think.
Our
first
preference
will
be
particularly
on
the
rental
housing
projects
is
that
we
would
retain
ownership
over
the
long
term
of
those
lands
and
in
return,
get
the
affordable
housing
within
a
mixed
project
and.
J
O
City
staff
will
be
working
very
closely
with
create
tío,
which
is
the
city's
consolidated
real
estate
organization
and
we'll
be
developing
those
metrics.
But
I
can
tell
you
that
there
will
be
a
high
priority
placed
on
those
projects
where
the
public
would
retain
ownership
of
the
land
and
where
that's
possible.
I've.
J
O
Through
the
chair
in
the
January
report,
we
will
identify
what
each
site
and
the
timing
associated
with
each
site
and
we're
looking
at
shaving
off
as
much
time
as
we
possibly
can
recognizing
that
a
number
of
them
also
will
be
required
to
go
through
the
planning
process.
And
we
work
with
planning
very
closely
with
respect
to
an
end-to-end
review
and
being
able
to
get
them
out
and
meet
the
objective.
J
J
O
O
O
A
M
M
So
on
the
questions
are
this
councillor:
Cole
was
asked,
you
know
what
is
the
range
I
was
kind
of
when
I
met
with
you
last
week
or
the
week
before.
I
was
kind
of
shocked
about
the
range.
So
a
nurse
was
on
that
list
as
needing
affordable
housing
like
what's
the
top
range
some
would
be
making.
That
would
still
require
formal
housing.
O
M
But
somebody
in
their
own,
seventeen
thousand
they
would
require
a
photo
housing.
Job
I
was
shocked
to
see
that
number
and
so
I
ask
you
this.
Also,
as
you
know,
we
were
out
there
negotiating,
we
mean
with
developers.
What
is
the
number
of
percentage
we're
looking
for
so
and
I
asked
you,
so
you
look
at
the
Westwood
Theatre
lands
and
with
the
new
award
three
four
percent,
you
know
we
I
think
the
former
counselors
counselor
to
channel
negotiated
twenty
percent.
Why
not
30
percent?
Why
not
forty
percent?
M
So
when
I'm
out
there
negotiating
with
with
developers
with
the
planning
department,
how
do
we
make
it
consistent,
I'm
asking
for
twenty,
and
you
know
counselor
Thompson
over
in
Scarborough,
say:
well,
you
know
Grimes
festering
twenty.
You
know
you're
asking
me
for
forty.
What
number
are
we
looking
for
on
these
sites?
So
you
look
at
that.
Just
take
the
Western
theater
lands.
We
have
complete
control
that.
Why
not
fifty
percent?
Why
not
sixty
percent?
What's
the
number
we're
looking
for
so.
O
Percentage-Wise
through
the
chair,
that's
an
excellent
question.
Each
site
will
have
its
own
business
case
associated
with
it
and,
of
course,
there's
a
cost
in
providing
affordable
housing,
regardless
of
whether
it's
a
non-profit
or
a
private
sector
organization.
But
if
you
look
at
other
organizations
across
the
across
North
America,
where
public
land
is
at
in
play,
we
would
anticipate
on
average
about
a
third
of
the
site
would
be
essentially
deemed
affordable.
Very.
M
Great
yes
and
the
last
question
following
my
colleague,
couch
long
Tam's
questions
about
other
sites,
TPA
sites,
there's
other
sites
that
the
city
may
be
negotiating
right
now
at
the
board
on
sites
where
the
very
needs
we
need
things
from
the
city,
anything
for
them.
But
this
would
be
a
great
bargaining
tool
say:
listen
if
you
added
some
more
affordable
housing
in
this
may
be
a
good
bargaining
tool,
I
think
of
the
medical
triangle
and
Mimico,
where
that's
all
gone
to
the
board.
M
O
K
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
I
do
have
a
motion
and
I
think
the
the
reason
I
am
placing
this
motion
is
I
think
it
is
important
to
further
enhance
the
letter
and
the
request
that
the
mayor
made
to
have
these
11
sites
I
think
we
need
to
give
a
little
bit
of
direction
to
staff
as
they
are
preparing
the
business
cases
as
they
are
preparing
the
RFPs
to
go
out.
What
exactly
we
are
looking
for
and
what
this
program
absolutely
is
looking
for
expediency.
K
The
needs
that
we
have
is
to
ensure
that
the
best
public
interest
comes
out
of
these
sites
and
for
that,
the
core
principles
that
guide
these
RFP
needs
to
be
be
healthy
communities
absolutely,
but
we
need
to
to
be
guided
by
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
that
is
going
to
come
out
of
this
site
and
the
depth
of
affordable
housing.
Those
need
to
be
the
the
key
guiding
principles.
K
So
if
we
have
a
site
that
we
can
maintain
in
our
ownership
and
have
a
99
year
lease
that
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
dispose
right
now
and
take
the
public,
the
good
public
benefit
of
having
a
high
amount
of
affordable
rental
with
that
that
that's
an
and
a
very
diverse
level
of
affordability
that
can
respond
to
people
from
the
very
low-income,
like
15,000
or
20,000
or
30,000.
The
receptionist.
That
Shawn
was
talking
about
all
the
way
to
families
that
are
at
in
the
income
level
of
sixty
and
seventy
thousand.
K
That
is
what
we
truly
build:
a
mixed
community
but,
more
importantly,
a
response
to
the
needs
of
the
different
affordability
levels
that
we
have
in
the
city.
We
don't
have,
unfortunately,
needs
in
one
bracket
of
the
income
we
have
needs
across
the
housing
spectrum,
and
so
what
I'm
asking
for
your
support
in
here
is
that
we
give
some
guiding
principles
to
our
staff.
K
That
say,
where's
possible
that
we
retain
the
land
that
we
prioritize
the
rental
as
tenure,
that
the
guiding
the
core
guiding
principles
is
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
and
the
depth
of
affordable
housing
and
that
they
come
back
in
January.
We,
these
guiding
principles
in
mind,
and
they
come
back
responding
to
the
needs
that
we
know.
I
know
that
the
needs
assessment
that
is
being
done
is
going
to
inform
how
we
proceed
on
this
file
a
lot
more
in
the
future.
But
we
know
off
off
the
bat
that
there's
some
key
needs.
K
Key
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
and
I
think
that
having
these
guiding
principles
is
going
to
help
everybody
and
making
sure
that
council
and
staff
are
on
the
same
the
same
page
on
how
we
produce
this.
This
report
and
put
these
11
sites
out
as
fast
as
possible
and
have
them
built
as
fast
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
house
the
people
of
Toronto.
K
G
Thank
You,
speaker
and-
and
let
me
begin
by
saying
that
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
in
this
term,
housing
is
and
will
be,
and
must
be
probably
the
defining
issue
for
this
council
and
it's
on
that
basis.
I
should
begin
in
a
public
forum
congratulating
and
thanking
councilor
by
Lao
for
taking
the
helm
on
it
and
indeed
to
Mara
Torre
for
making
it
a
prominent
issue
for
his
administration
and
in
doing
so
by
naming
councilor
by
law
as
our
chair
on
it.
G
When
we
look
at
the
housing
ladder
and
the
unaffordability
of
it
on
every
rung
of
the
ladder,
we
are
struck
every
single
room.
If
you
are
homeless
and
looking
for
shelter,
we
have
8,000
people
who
are
homeless.
In
two
nights
ago
we
had
a
thousand
people
using
our
respite
sand,
shell
and
out
of
the
cold
programs.
If
you're
looking
for
supportive
housing,
especially
you
need
that
wrap
around
health
care
supports,
there's
a
waiting
list
of
14,000
people
if
you're
looking
for
permanent,
affordable
housing.
G
The
list
which
is
demonstrative
but
not
exhaustive,
of
need,
is
at
a
hundred
and
eighty-one
thousand
people,
and
that's
just
on
the
realm
of
housing,
affordability
for
people
needing
subsidy,
how
about
the
missing
middle
and
just
being
able
to
live
in
the
city?
We
talked
about
the
average
asking
price
for
a
one-bedroom
apartment.
G
The
average
asking
price
is
more
than
two
thousand
dollars
for
a
one-bedroom
apartment,
I'm,
not
exaggerating
when
I
tell
you
that
I
have
staff
in
my
office,
who
are
wondering
whether
they
can
continue
to
live
in
this
city
as
a
renter,
and
so
when
we
talked
about
housing,
affordability.
This
is
about
what
type
of
city
do
we
want
to
build
and
what
type
of
city
do
we
want
to
ensure
people
can
live
and
work
in
and
so
I.
Look
when
I
look
to
this
term
and
I
am
fully
supportive
and
I.
G
Think
it's
critical
of
the
amendments
that
councilor
bylaw
was
brought
forward
to
provide
some
guiding
principles
for
how
we
think
about
affordable
housing
in
this
term,
starting
with
these
eleven
sites,
because
land
is
the
most
valuable
asset
that
we
have
when
it
comes
to
affordable
housing.
It's
our
land,
building,
affordable
housing
starts
with
how
we
look
at
the
land
we
own.
We
are
the
largest
landowner
as
the
city
in
this
jurisdiction,
and
so
when
we
have
this
focus
for
this
term
on
affordable
housing.
G
G
A
F
My
intention
here
is
to
complement
the
work
that
the
mayor
and
I
know
what
the
correct
titling
word:
deputy
mayor,
chair
of
the
Planning
and
Housing
Committee
councillor
by
Lao.
The
idea
here
is
very
simple
among
the
principles
that
councilor
by
Lao,
put
in.
In
addition
to
what
the
mayor
had
was
that
we
look
at
an
option
of
leasing,
some
of
the
land
and
maybe
finding
some
partnerships
so
that
we
can
deliver
it
directly.
F
What
I'm
trying
to
do
here
is
be
a
little
bit
more
explicit
about
one
thing
before
we
consider
any
sale
or
before
we
enter
into
any
sale
or
enter
into
any
project.
We
should
have,
as
a
test
case,
to
evaluate
the
project
what
it
would
look
like
if
we,
the
city
in
perhaps
in
partnership
with
coops
or
not-for-profits,
or
with
Toronto
Community
Housing,
what
we
could
accomplish
and
if
what
we
could
accomplish,
because
we
already
own
the
land
and
we
don't
have
to
get
the
return
on
investment
that
a
private
developer
has
to
get.
F
Would
that
be
a
better
case?
And
if
that
better
case,
is
there
then
clearly
what
we've
seen
through
the
RFPs
isn't
acceptable
and
we
should
either
re
tender
or
simply
deliver
to
ourselves.
It
doesn't
commit
us
to
doing
that
way,
but
what
it
does
is
give
us
a
yardstick
to
measure
whether
or
not
we're
achieving
the
most
that
we
can.
F
In
his
remarks,
councillor
Crecy
pointed
out
that
the
successful
models
where
people
are
actually
solving
this
problem,
mostly
in
Europe,
follow
this
path
of
looking,
first
at
some
form
of
social
or
public
ownership
and
delivery
and
delivery
of
the
project.
In
my
questions
to
mr.
Gavin,
I
was
asking
about
how
we're
doing
with
the
recommendation
of
the
task
force,
which
kicked
off
the
beginning
of
the
last
term
of
council
in
trying
to
achieve
a
better
mix
between
rent
geared
to
income
and
market
units
within
the
existing
portfolio
that
we
have
the
bottleneck.
F
So
if
we
look
perhaps
expanding
the
suite
of
publicly
or
socially
delivered
housing,
we
create
that
opportunity
of
not
only
creating
new
mixed
income
housing
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
We
create
the
opportunity
of
improving
the
quality
of
life
and
the
mix
in
our
existing
portfolio.
I
want
to
be
clear.
I
made
a
point
of
asking
mr.
Godin.
If
his
office
has
experience
in
developing
or
reviewing
these
kinds
of
business
cases,
he
said.
Yes,
we
have
that
expertise
in-house.
F
This
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
not
just
try
paddle
like
mad,
to
try
to
get
ahead
of
the
problem,
but
to
actually
envision
solving
multiple
problems
at
once
and
improving
the
quality
of
life
for
those
people
who
can't
afford
market
housing
right
across
the
board.
It's
also
something
we
could
do
in
parallel
with
the
rest
of
the
program.
It
doesn't
set
this
up.
As
you
know,
first
you
develop
a
public
model
and
then,
if
it
fails,
you
go
and
canvass.
The
market
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
do
something
in
parallel.
F
It
allows
us
to
bring
all
of
the
best
thinking
to
how
to
solve
this
problem,
looking
at
multiple
pathways
to
solve
it.
So
congratulations
to
the
mayor,
congratulations
to
councilor
by
Lao
and
I,
encourage
you
to
also
support
this
motion,
so
we're
looking
at
a
full
suite
of
options
to
solve
multiple
problems
at
once.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
F
Would
say
that
there
are
two
things
that
give
me
pause
about,
whether
doing
it
through
an
RFP
is
there
one
is
and
I
know
this
from
dealing
with
the
housing
sector.
If
you
are
a
not-for-profit
operator,
finding
the
capital
up
front
to
be
able
to
make
that
transaction
without,
say
the
city
directly
partnering
has
been
a
barrier
for
many
of
them
to
be
able
to
enter
the
market.
The
second
thing
is
that
in
the
language
we
use
to
discuss
this,
we
always
talk
about
a
third
party
not-for-profit.
F
K
F
Not
saying
we
should
I'm
saying
that
that's
an
option
we
should
explore
and
put
it
up
against
anything
else
that
the
market
or
not-for-profit
brings
in,
and
it
may
be
in
some
case
that
the
wisest
thing
to
do
is
to
do
it
ourselves,
perhaps
in
partnership
with
the
co-op
movements
or
not-for-profits
or
TC
HC.
But
you
won't
so
my
motion
is
not
either/or.
It's
what
you
proposed
plus
something
else.
So
it's
both
an
but.
F
There
I
would
take
issue
because
I
think
there's
a
bear
to
them
being
able
to
participate,
which
is
raising
the
necessary
capital
to
be
a
principal
partner
and
if
we
go
in
with
a
joint
project,
publicly
delivered
with
them
with
some
agency
or
not
or
co-op
involved,
alongside,
as
was
done,
say
on
the
st.
Lawrence
lands.
We
create
more
opportunities
for
that
third
sector
to
get
involved.
C
C
We
often
talk
about
how
important
is
to
engage
the
private
development
sector
in
providing
leadership
on
affordable
housing.
We've
been
asking
the
province
for
many
years
and
hopefully
we're
moving
forward
with
inclusionary
housing,
inclusionary
zoning
rather,
but
it's
I
think
incredibly
important
for
us
to
demonstrate
the
leadership
ourselves
where
we
have
lands
that
can
be
better
utilized
to
provide
more
opportunities
to
address
a
crisis,
an
affordability
or
city
that
we
do
that
and
and
that's
what
we're
doing
today.
Moving
forward
with
a
select
number
of
sites
and
and
I'm
really
proud
of.
That.
C
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
meritorious
leadership
on
this
right.
In
the
beginning
of
this
term,
his
staff,
member
and
I
want
to
acknowledge,
also
ed
bird
balm
over
there
who
walked
around
and
on
the
mayor's
behalf
and
made
sure
that
every
member
of
council
who
had
a
site
in
their
ward,
was
directly
engaged
in
this
process
and,
moreover,
that
we
felt
comfortable
with
how
it
was
being
put
together
and
moving
forward
on
it.
One
of
things
that
I
want
to
address
in
cancer
by
Liao's
motion
that
I
think
is
very
important
for
our
communities.
C
Is
that
in
no
way
does
this
mean
that,
just
because,
as
a
council,
our
priority,
one
of
our
priorities,
is
to
address
the
affordability
crisis
in
the
city
that
in
some
way
we're
then
just
going
to
sort
of
build
whatever
whatever
we
want.
It
still
needs
to
go
through
the
through
the
planning
process.
It
still
needs
to
take
into
consideration
what
the
appropriate
built
form
for
that
site
is.
How
does
it
really
transition
into
neighborhoods?
We
want
to
get
benefits
for
affordability,
but
we
also
want
to
get
benefits
for
communities
and
I.
C
Think
if
we
strike
the
right
balance,
we're
gonna
build
buildings
that
we
can
be
proud
of
in
the
community,
but
also
make
sure
that
our
communities
are
accessible
to
so
many
people
in
the
city
who
can't
afford
to
live
in
these
communities,
including
where
I
represent
right
in
the
center
of
the
city.
So
I
just
again
want
to
acknowledge
not
only
the
mayor,
but
all
the
members
of
council
who
are
involved
in
this
initiative
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
seeing
this
change.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
S
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
just
wanted
to
to
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
and
and
talk
about
how
its
reflected
in
our
community
b2z,
Stewart,
Ward,
19,
I
think
this
is
such
an
important
moment
for
the
city
as
we
as
we
continue
to
grow.
We
heard
comments
today
from
a
number
of
our
colleagues
about
affordability
across
the
spectrum
and
deeply
affordable
units,
of
course,
are
a
continuing
challenge
and
we
need
to
build
more,
but
it
is
affordability
across
the
spectrum.
S
I
think
councilor
Grimes
comments
and
questions
to
Scott
staff,
really
illuminated
that
I
was
pleased
to
hear
counselor
Fletcher
acknowledge
that
there
are
multiple
tiers
of
sites
and
we're
moving
forward
with
these
first
eleven,
because
they're
ready
to
go,
we
can
move
on
them
quickly
and
and
delivering
on
the
mayor's
mandate
of
40,000
units
over
the
next
12
years.
That
is
a
huge
priority
for
all
of
us
in
this
chamber,
but
there
is
a
second
tiers
and
third
tier
sites
and
I
think
about
ours
in
in
Danforth
and
Cox.
S
Well,
the
Danforth
garage
site
and
we've
had
fantastic
conversations.
We
create
create
Co
about
the
opportunities
to
bring
in
different
uses
on
that
site
and
and
I
think
councillor
Vilas
motion
here.
Establishing
guiding
principles
for
the
report
is,
is
really
important.
Okay,
yeah
very
important
for
this
report
and
understanding
how
these
sites
can
can
do
more
than
just
housing
but
accommodate
a
variety
of
uses
and
counselor
counselor
Matt
Lowe
was
acknowledging
that
as
well
and
I
think
that's
very
important,
so
I
I
think.
S
As
we
come
back
with
this
report,
you
know
we
need
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
who
will
be
developing
these
properties
and
how
we
will
be
managing
the
actual,
affordable
housing.
That's
created.
Of
course,
the
definition
of
a
portable
housing
is
always
important
to
clarify
and
what
percentage
of
those
units
will
be
affordable
and
how
many
of
those
units
will
actually
be
delivered,
we're
looking
to
do
40,000
over
the
next
12
years.
So
we
really
do
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
moving
forward
with
this
as
quickly
as
possible.
S
A
T
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
First
of
all,
as
a
new
addition
to
the
council,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
mayor
for
taking
the
leadership
to
putting
his
word
to
build
more
affordable
housing
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
I
came
from
a
big
city,
Hong
Kong
I
immigrated
here
46
years
ago,
and
we
had
affordable
housing
buildings
like
we
were
going
to
build
in
Hong
Kong
46
years
ago.
So
we
do
need
to
catch
up.
T
We
have
a
lot
to
catch
up,
but
I
really
like
to
thank
the
committee
I
chair
by
deputy
mayor
Bulow,
to
take
the
initiative
to
make
more
affordable
housing.
Rental
housing
in
the
in
Toronto
and
I.
I've
noticed
that
in
the
11
sites
that
we
have
now
there's
none
in
my
ward,
23
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
record
that
my
in
my
board
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
staying
in
rooming
houses
and
that
really
needs
help
and
I
really
wanted
to.
T
A
J
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
also
want
to
rise
and
and
acknowledge
the
good
intentions
in
the
mayor's
letter
in
counselor
by
allows
motion
and
in
councillor
perks,
is
motion.
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
not
squander
these
opportunities
and
I
say
this,
madam
speaker,
largely
because
I
have
seen
during
my
time
here
on
council
where
land
has
been
declared
surplus
and
it
has
been
sold
off
either
through
TPA
parking,
lots
or
other,
perhaps
other
city-owned
sites,
and
we
haven't
to
necessarily
maximize
the
the
maximize.
The
community
benefits
that
we
needed
to.
J
Madam
Speaker
is
that
we
actually
don't
replicate
that
model.
So
what
I
see
as
being
utterly
important
by
way
of
councillor
perks
is
motion
is
that
we
don't
give
up
the
title
and
land
ownership
so
quickly
and
that
we
do
that
we
do
put
the
community's
best
interest
in
this
bit
city's
best
interests
before
everything
else.
Otherwise,
once
you
sell
it
off,
you
don't
get
it
back,
and
even
if
you
do
a
long
land,
lease
I
think
that's
that's
a
very
good
way
to
go
about
it.
J
J
In
this
case
it
was
the
provincially
owned,
land,
would
be
put
into
private
hands
and
all
we
would
have
received
was
600
units
coming
back
for
for
less
than
50
years.
So
councillor
perks
is
motion.
Is
the
one
that
I
think
helps
us
tie
it
all
together
to
build
whether
or
not
the
business
case
on
whether
or
not
we
should
be
going
to
the
market
and
sounding
the
market
for
for-profit
development,
which
will
always
eat
up
some
of
the
the
the
nonprofit
housing,
because
you
can
only
build
so
high.
J
You
can
only
build
so
many,
you
don't
want
to
breach
the
local
planning
context
and
something
has
got
to
give
so
the
quicker
we
sell
the
land,
the
quicker
we
lose
the
land,
but
the
the
more
detailed
nuance
and
retention
of
the
land
through
a
sophisticated
business
model
develop
deliver
us
the
best
outcome,
with
the
largest
amount
of
affordable
housing
in
the
widest
range
of
affordable
housing
and
holding
as
long
as
we
can
is
to
me
the
best
outcome
of
this
arrangement
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
report
in
January.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
I
want
to
first
of
all
give
a
shout
out
to
the
mayor
for
making
this
the
first
order
of
business
and
he's
moved
very
quickly
on
this
and
I
think
it's
up
to
us
and
I
think
the
rest
of
the
mechanisms
of
the
city
to
make
sure
this
doesn't
take
forever,
because
we've
identified
the
sites.
I
know
I
have
a
great
sight
in
my
ward
right
at
the
corner
of
the
Allen
and
Eglinton
I.
H
H
H
Councillor
perks
is
examining
that
in
his
motion,
I
just
want
to
say
there
is
an
incredibly
successful
model
of
building
affordable
mixed
income,
housing
underway
right
now,
in
the
middle
of
the
city,
it's
called
the
Lawrence
Heights
revitalization,
okay,
it
is
the
largest
publicly
owned,
affordable
housing
complex
in
Canada.
Madam
chair,
you
know
about
Beach
Hall,
but
I
bet,
you
don't
know
about
Lawrence
Heights
I
mean
okay,
Lawrence
Heights,
a
hundred
acres
owned
by
the
city.
Already
it's
about
a
hundred
times
bigger
than
beach
hall
to
beach
all
site.
H
So
there
it's
already
underway,
we've
almost
completed
phase
one.
If
you
ever
go
on
the
subway
get
off
at
rainy
Avenue,
you
can
see
the
three
gleaming
new
buildings
already
up.
People
are
about
to
move
back
in,
one
is
a
condo
at
market.
Others
are
affordable,
mixed
integrated
housing,
it's
an
incredibly
successful
model
that
has
been
developed
in
the
city
and
has
to
be
replicated.
We
are
now
finished
phase
one
I'm
hoping
we
can
start
to
get
some
funding
for
Phase,
two
of
the
revitalization
of
Lauren
sites.
H
So
if
you
want
to
look
at
an
incredibly
successful
model,
the
city
has
developed
just
look
at
Lawrence
Heights,
I
counsel,
err,
Wow
from
Scarborough
I'll.
Take
you
on
a
tour
of
Lawrence
Heights
and
see
the
incredible
place
that
is
being
built
there
right
on
the
subway
on
the
north
side.
There's
the
Yorkdale
subway
station
on
the
south
side
is
the
Lawrence
Heights,
the
Lawrence
West
subway
entrance
so
bounded
by
some
on
each
side.
Great
parks,
the
bay
cross
park,
is
a
great
sight.
So
that's
what
we
need
to
replicate.
H
You
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
We
already
invented
the
wheel
at
Lawrence
Heights,
but
we've
got
to
get
on
with
Phase
two
and
besides
these
other
eleven
sites.
So
that's
a
hundred
acres.
If
I
can
emphasize
again.
Madam
chair,
you
know
how
much
100
acres
is
right
in
the
middle
of
the
city.
It's
an
incredible
opportunity
that
we've
got
to
pursue
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
there
are
other
other
options
that
work.
There
is
a
program
called
options
for
homes.
I've
got
two
of
those
buildings.
H
I
know
councillor
Moscow
was
the
pioneer
who
promoted
these
sites.
I've
got
one
on
Bathurst
Street,
the
old
Asbury
United
Church,
which
is
a
mixed,
condo,
affordable,
housing
and
then
I've
got
another
condo
that
I
think
650
Lawrence
right
next
to
the
subway.
Where
what
happens
is
the
city
Canada,
Mortgage
and
Housing?
H
It's
one
of
the
other
ways
of
providing
affordable
mixed
income
housing
and
in
partnership
with,
could
be
nonprofit
sector
or
could
be
the
market
builder.
So
there
are
things
that
work
out
there.
It's
just
that.
We've
got
to
really
get
a
sense
of
urgency
and
I.
Think
the
mayor
has
really
done
that
to
get
these
underway
and
done,
and
hopefully
we
can
all
support
these
in
our
own
community,
so
we
get
people
who
want
to
live
and
work
in
Toronto
that
could
live
in
some
place
where
they
don't
have
to.
A
R
R
So
I
did
a
little
bit
of
a
profile
of
Ward
six
York
Center
and
we
have
a
wide
mix
of
what
may
be
easily
defined
as
affordable,
affordable
housing
coming
in
various
forms
and
I
urge
staff
to
look
at
these
models
because
they
seem
to
be
working
on
the
social
capital
side.
We
have
three
buildings
that
are
actually
owned
and
managed
by
Binet
breath
faith-based
organization
that
managed
to
negotiate
various
funding
agreements
with
the
city
and
with
the
federal
government
to
open
three
buildings
in
our
city
and
offer
below
market
rent,
mostly
the
seniors.
R
At
the
same
time,
we
have
ten
TCH
buildings
across
Ward,
six,
which
which
has
have
over
a
thousand
units
which,
of
course,
we
all
know
what
TCH
s
and
we
all
know
the
important
role
it
plays
in
the
tippet
regeneration
area,
which
is
the
Wilson
Wilson
Heights
area.
Where
there's
upwards
of
three
kind
of
in
3,000
condominium
units
going
to
be
built
in
the
coming
years.
R
Nobody
is
doing
business
in
Ward
six
unless
they
come
to
the
table
with
a
certain
percentage
of
their
buildings,
of
affordable
rental
and
affordable
ownership
and
to
date,
we've
we've
secured
over
250
units
in
the
tippet
regeneration
area.
So
here
we
have
social
capital
providing
below
market
below
market
rental.
We
have
TCH
blood,
providing
a
model
for
well
below
market
rental
and
of
course,
we
have
private
sector
condominium
developments
in
which
we
are
securing
a
growing
number
of
affordable
rental
and
affordable
ownership.
R
But
at
the
same
time,
I
urge
you
to
support
councilor
Bella's
motion
we
spent
years
and
years
working
on
the
tippet
regeneration
site.
This
is
a
worthy
site
that
that
could
be
developed
but
severed
for
affordable
housing.
We
had
already
committed
to
the
community
a
community
park,
some
retail
and
of
coop
and,
of
course,
preserving
some
of
the
commuter
parking
spaces
that
were
also
there,
in
fact
preserving
a
good
percentage
of
them.
R
So
that
is
something
we
want
staff
to
take
into
consider
as
we
as
we
go
forward
as
we
circulate
these
properties
and
put
them
up
for
sale
that
there's
one
size
doesn't
fit
all
that
we
have
to
respect
what's
going
on
on
the
ground
as
as
it
currently
exists,
and
that
we
work
with
local
communities
to
understand
what's
best
and
works,
what
works
in
in
those
local
communities.
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker
Thank.
D
D
It
was
sold
to
a
private
developer
and
I
doubt
very
much
that
there
will
any
truly
affordable
housing
on
that
site.
Had
we
been
partners
in
that
I'm
sure
we
could
have
come
up
with
a
plan
that
would
have
ensured
that
Toronto
Hydro
realized
the
full
value
from
the
site
and
we
could
have
with
ten
acres
built
something
that
was
truly
affordable
in
an
area
that
has
the
highest
average
rates
in
the
city.
So
I
just
hope.
I
But
whenever
there's
a
development
opportunity
there
for
Toronto
Community
Housing
that
we
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
that's
land
the
same
as
any
other
city-owned
land
that
does
need
to
be
used
in
a
more
social
way
and
understand
its
replacement.
Housing
gets
paid
for,
but
I
want
to
just
say
that
we
have
a
finite
amount
of
land
that
we
have
access
to,
and
we've
heard
today
some
of
the
discussion
about.
I
Well,
we
did
this
on
this
land
and
we
didn't
get
anything
affordable
there
and
how
we've
used
that
big
asset
is
to
get
highest
and
best
financial
use.
Sometimes
early
days
of
Bill
Toronto,
it
was
mm-hmm
that
was
their
mandate.
Then
we
added
more
of
a
social
mandate
in
with
create
geo
and
now
we're
being
very
clear
about
our
land,
because
just
like
lakefront,
which
is
finite
land,
particularly
in
south
of
Eglinton,
is
in
very
finite
supply.
I
And
when
we
move
to
these
large
tracts
of
land
that
we
own
or
a
particular
the
very
large
tracts
of
land
that
Toronto
Community
Housing
owns,
we
have
had
a
policy
there
of
simply
replacement
housing
and
we've
not
had
a
strong,
robust
policy
of
putting
land
out
for
affordable
housing
and
making
sure
that
we
have
key
sector
housing
that
the
up-and-coming
generations
have
a
place
to
rent
a
place
to
live
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
That
is
our
work
force.
I.
I
It's
particularly
speaking
to
my
motion,
which
is
a
hundred
acres,
a
hundred
acres
of
land
and
the
replacement
housing.
That's
been
approved
for
that
hundred
acres
I
believe,
is
the
original
four
hundred
units
at
Lawrence,
Heights
and
even
Phase
two
doesn't
have
baked
in
affordable
housing
as
part
of
what
would
take
place
in
that
time.
So
we,
when
we
look
behind,
we
say
Wow
in
the
rear
view,
mirror
we
should
have
done
this.
We
should
have
done
that
look
at
if
we
had
only
done
this.
I
Look
at
the
I,
don't
know
how
many
acres
that
are
owned
there
by
a
trauma
by
Toronto
Community
Housing,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
acres
there
and
we
need
to
be
quite
have
a
good
conversation
about
how
the
last
of
those
lands
should
be
used
because
we've
used
the
let's
say
the
region
park
lands
to
redevelop
the
housing
for
the
2000
units
and
then
500
more
added,
but
for
the
acres
and
acres
and
acres.
That's
it
next
time
it
comes
to
renew
that
housing.
I
There's
no
land
left
to
rebuild
anything
new
on
and
so
being
very
prudent
with
our
one
resource
that
we
can
bring
to
the
table
is
so
critically
important
and
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
making
this
a
big
issue
in
the
election
at
every
door.
I
was
at
everybody
agreed,
affordable
housing
number
one
I
believe
we
have
the
public
behind
us
because
everyone
is
facing
for
their
kids
for
their
parents,
for
people
that
want
to
move
into
the
city
for
people
that
want
to
work
in
the
city
they're
facing
the
same
thing.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker
I
just
want
to
make
a
couple
of
comments.
First,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
mayor
and
deputy
mayor
by
Lao
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
think
that
this
is
one
one
area
that
that
you'll
find
you'll
have
unanimous
support
for
for
action
on
mr.
mayor
and
from
from
this
chamber,
the
where
I
would
would
caution
just
in
a
couple
areas
that
haven't
been
brought
up.
Yet
if
we
look
back
historically
about
the
direction
that
council
made
to
to
build
Toronto.
E
This
was
the
city's
agency
responsible
for
for
for
divesting
the
city
of
its
assets,
despite
having,
within
their
mandate
a
requirement
to
look
beyond
the
monetary
value
of
sites
and
into
what
other
city
building
initiatives
they
could
accomplish,
and
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
City
Council
to
build
affordable
units.
Despite
both
those
things,
the
they
did
not
manage
to
actually
build
very
much
affordable
housing,
and
that
was
until
Council
and
individual
councillors
started
really
laying
down
the
law.
And
then
then,
a
leadership
change
had
build.
E
Toronto
actually
resulted
in
the
last
term
with
a
bit
of
a
change
in
direction.
So
I
would
caution
us
from
just
saying
once
we
hand
it
over
to
other
agencies
that
we're
actually
gonna
get
the
result
that
we
want
to
see.
It
takes
a
commitment
on
the
part
of
local
councillors
for
for
the
lands
that
are
in
their
community
to
demand
that
affordable
housing
be
a
major
component
of
the
project,
and
it
takes
the
will
of
this
council
and
and
our
senior
staff
to
ensure
that
we
do
our
best
to
achieve
those
goals.
E
I
would
just
make
one
other
comment.
I
asked
some
questions
of
our
chief
planner
I
am
just
so
ashamed
of
this
of
the
slow
pace
that
we're
moving
and
that
that
we
have
moved
on
inclusionary
zoning.
It
was
a
couple
years
ago
where
City
Council
said
you
know
what,
in
anticipation
of
a
provincial
change,
let
us
develop
a
policy
and
get
it
moving
and
it
did
like
it's
not
all
our
fault.
It
took
years
for
the
provincial
government
to
finally
take
action.
When
do
they?
E
Inclusionary
zoning
powers
I
think
that
we're
doing
a
great
injustice
to
our
city,
because
every
day
that
goes
by,
we
get
new
applications
coming
in
the
door
and
know
what
most
of
them
don't
include.
Affordable
housing
know
what
they
would
include
if
we
have
inclusionary
zoning
powers,
affordable
housing,
and
that
meant
is
not
only
our
lands
that
were
activating
it's.
E
We
deserve
to
ensure
that
our
housing
mix
is
better
off
and
we
should
demand
that
of
every
developer
and
we
need
to
start
that
as
soon
as
possible,
because
every
day
that
goes
by
new
applications
come
in
and
it's
a
lost
opportunity
on
our
part,
thousands
of
units
we
could
have
achieved
over
the
last
decade-
probably
tens
of
thousands
and
we
lost
that
opportunity.
Let's
not
let
another
council
term
go
by
with
us
without
us,
taking
a
strong
action
to
ensure
affordable
housing
in
every
new
development,
not
just
the
ones
that
we're
proposing.
Thank.
D
B
B
The
proposition
here
is,
is
to
have
government
run
and
own
the
these
particular
sites
and
develop
them,
and
I
would
suggest
to
you
Toronto
housing,
for
example.
Their
plate
is
already
full
managed
managing
their
existing
inventory
and
the
financial
drain
in
terms
of
managing
and
keeping
these
properties
is
quite
significant.
I
believe
that
the
private
sector
is
far
more
equipped
to
to
to
run
these
operations
to
build
the
operations.
B
For
example,
you
know
when,
if
you
were
to
ask
anyone
the
question
who
can
who
do
you
think
can
build
a
site
more
cheaply
and
more
efficiently
the
public
sector
or
the
private
sector?
I
think
the
answer
is
obvious.
The
second
question
who
do
you
think,
can
better
operate
and
maintain
housing.
Is
it
the
public
sector
or
the
private
sector,
I
think
it's
the
private
sector
and
while
this
may
sound
very
attractive
over
the
short
term
to
have
the
city
do
it
over
the
long
term?
B
We
all
know
the
financial
obligations
and
requirements
long
term
what
it
has
on
our
budget,
the
financial
pressure
it
has
not
not
maybe
in
the
first
ten
years,
but
when
as
properties
get
older.
That's
a
real
financial
drain
on
us
and
we
see
that
in
our
social
housing
stock
now
so
I'm
rising
in
support
of
the
report.
But
I
am
voting
against
councilor
perks
and
councillor
Fletcher's
motions.
B
D
L
L
That
could
then
be
brought
here
for
consideration
so
that
we
could
get
a
fast
start
in
this
and
I
want
to
thank
them
for
their
efforts
in
responding
to
that
very
quickly
and
I
want
to
thank
the
members
of
council,
because
in
each
case
as
councillor
Matt
Lowell
made
reference.
Obviously
those
pieces
of
land
that
we're
talking
about
today
fall
within
the
Ward's
of
certain
councillors
and
they
came
together.
L
We
asked
them
to
come
together
right
away
so
that
they
would
understand
that
this
was
the
beginning
of
a
process,
hopefully
an
urgent
and
expedited
process,
but
a
process.
Nonetheless,
that
allowed
them
to
represent
their
constituents
properly
and
to
have
something
that
was
open
and
transparent.
With
respect
to
what
possible
use
we
could
make
of
these
pieces
of
land
to
produce
more
affordable
housing
and
to
produce
it
faster.
L
And
the
second
thing
that
that
so
in
that
sense,
I
will
be
looking,
for
example,
to
sell
a
piece
of
land
at
Dundas
and
Victoria,
because
I
don't
know
why
we
owned
that
you
know,
and
so
I
would
be
looking
to
sell
that,
because
I
think
there's
lots
of
people
who
might
want
to
buy
it.
Perhaps
including
Ryerson
I,
won't
be
looking
to
sell
these
kinds
of
individual
parcels
even
for
affordable
housing.
Unless
somebody
came
along
and
said,
we
were
gonna
do
extraordinarily
better
in
terms
of
the
quantity
of
affordable
housing,
but
I.
L
But
that's
why
we're
having
a
process
is
to
see
what
the
people
out
there
private
and
nonprofit,
and
by
the
way
in
in
in
following
on
the
comments
of
councillor
perks,
I
I
won't
vote
for
his
motion,
but
I
don't
have
any
objection
in
fact,
I
would
encourage
the
Toronto
Community
Housing
Corporation
if
they
would
to
bid
to
bid
on
on
these
properties
and
to
tell
us
when
we
go
through
this
process
of
saying
what
would
you
do
with
this
land?
Have
you
had
it
in
the
context
of
public
horse
or
affordable
housing?
L
Put
it
in
a
bid?
You
know
we
have
directors
over
there
that
represent
the
interests
of
us
as
the
shareholders,
and
they
may
or
may
not
think
that's
a
good
idea,
but
I
I
certainly
think
that
they
would
be
most
welcome
to
bid
and
it
does
accomplish
what
other
nonprofits
bidding
would
accomplish,
which
councillor
perks
referred
to,
namely
that
there
isn't
a
profit
motive
that
people
have
to
squeeze
out
of
the
economics
of
what
they're
doing.
L
I
also
want
to
just
follow
on
the
comments
of
councillor,
Layton
and
say
I
entirely
agree
with
I
mean
inclusionary.
Zoning
has
been
a
long
time
coming
for
a
variety
of
provincial
and
municipal
reasons,
but
now
we
have
the
opportunity
to
ensure
that
people
who
have
done
well
by
the
development
of
real
estate
in
Toronto
contribute
to
solving
the
affordability
crisis,
that
a
number
of
councillors
made
reference
to
I.
Think
on
our
part
and
I'll.
Just
conclude
with
this,
we
have
to
operate
better
on
the
timetable.
L
I
was
even
struck
by
the
fact
that,
when
these
first
11
pieces
of
property
came
forward,
the
timetable
to
even
get
started
on
doing
anything
and
to
have
the
line
put
into
a
position
where
it
could
be
put
out
for
bid
we're
talking
we're
talking
two
years.
Just
for
that
and
that's
not
acceptable.
It's
not
acceptable
to
me,
I'm
sure
it's
not
acceptable
to
you
and
it's
certainly
not
acceptable
to
the
people
of
Toronto
and
I'll.
Just
conclude
with
two
messages
to
the
other
two
governments.
L
We
need
the
federal
government
in
particular,
which
has
done
an
inventory
of
its
land
and
has
not
put
any
of
it
up
yet
in
Toronto
for
affordable
housing
to
come
forward
and
and
join
in
this
process
with
their
land,
and
we
know
they've
done
the
inventory
and
they
have
surplus
land.
And
secondly,
we
need
the
federal
government
to
come
forward
with
the
money
from
the
National
Housing
Strategy,
which
was
scheduled
to
happen
in
2019.
But
we
now
need
to
see
it's
real
and
it's
election
year.
L
So
I
think
it's
a
good
year
to
have
that
discussion
and
then,
finally,
we
need
the
province
to
come
forward
in
a
big
way
as
real
partners
in
this,
but
in
particular,
I
would
say
where
they
can
be.
Most
helpful
is
with
respect
to
supportive
housing,
because
we
all
know
that
in
our
shelters
and
many
other
places
there
are
people
in
need
of
support
who
are
not
getting
it
because
it
doesn't
exist
and
that
that
would
help
us
with
the
housing
problem
in
many
different
ways
as
well
and
so
I.
L
A
A
A
E
D
Madam
Speaker,
the
recommendation
to
end
at
6
p.m.
which
would
be
a
about
an
hour
and
15
minutes
shorter
than
usual.
It's
really
in
response
to
require
concerns
expressed
by
members
about
having
time
available
for
community
meetings
in
the
evening
with
it
with
their
additional
constituency
duties.
So
it
goes
with
the
report.
Really
the
council
considered
last
week
to
streamline
the
appointments.
This
is
about
streamlining
your
time
in
council,
so
so.
E
B
E
A
E
For
for
60
seconds
it
was,
it
was
counselor
min
and
Wang
that
raised
this
issue
at
striking
and
I.
Just
think
it
needed
to
be
highlighted
that
we're
making
what
essentially
is
a
fairly
significant
change
to
how
we
operate
our
council
meetings
not
determining
to
stay
well
into
the
evening.
Every
night,
I
personally
don't
mind
the
change.
It
means
I
might
be
able
to
talk.
My
girls
in
on
council
nights
at
home,
so
I
welcome
the
change,
but
there
may
be
some
nights
where
we
do
off
to
stay
late.
A
A
A
B
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
to
staff,
to
the
Solicitor
General
the
route,
the
regulations
as
we're
getting
them
from
the
regulations
as
we
getting
them
from
the
province.
Does
that
allow
us
to
set
up
through
licensing
our
standards
set
our
own
rules
as
to
how
far
they
are
from
religious,
educational,
religious
institutions
or
this
is
a
take-it-or-leave-it,
opt
in
or
opt
out.
K
B
B
K
When
counsel
makes
a
formal
request
of
the
province
to
amend
legislation,
it's
done
through
a
Council
resolution
and
communication
from
the
city
clerk.
The
council
could
also
direct
my
staff
and
and
other
staff
to
to
engage
with
provincial
government.
However
I
there
is
a
timing
issue
here,
because
the
deadline
for
opting
out
is
January
22nd
that
does
appear
to
be
a
firm
deadline.
Do.
B
K
D
G
G
G
G
So
when
you
talk
about
with
a
regulatory
approach
to
mitigate
the
harms
associated
both
to
remove
the
harms
associated
with
criminalization,
but
to
mitigate
the
harms
associated
with
legalization,
what
are
the
has?
Have
you
made
recommendations
and
has
the
Board
of
Health
made
recommendations
to
the
federal
and
provincial
governments
on
how
the
regulatory
approach
should
be
conducted?
Yes,.
N
N
In
fact,
that's
the
method
by
which
you
get
the
best
in
terms
of
regulation
and
you
actually
achieve
the
public
health
objectives.
You
do
limit
the
damage
and
the
harms
associated
absolutely
with
criminalization
of
the
substance,
but
you
also
mitigate
the
harms.
You
manage
to
limit
access
to
youth
and
create
the
regulatory
environment
in
a
manner
that
actually
supports
health
best
for
the
population
and
in
particular,
for
youth.
So.
G
I
just
want
to
delve
into
those
specifics,
so
you
talked
about
the
from
a
public
health
perspective,
your
recommendation
and
support
for
a
government-run
and
operated
framework
for
the
distribution
and
sale
of
cannabis.
You've
talked
about
mitigating
the
risk
of
sale
to
youth.
How
from
a
public
health
perspective,
can
other
harm
reduction
approaches
be
used
through
a
government-run
and
operated
system?
Well,.
N
Through
the
speaker,
there
are
some
other
elements
that
are
important.
Clearly,
you'd
want
to
do
such
things
as
limiting
the
number
of
retail
locations,
particularly
next
to
sensitive
uses.
Schools
would
be
a
prime
example
of
that
other
examples
of
regulatory
measures
that
could
be
taken
would
include
limiting
the
hours
of
sale.
N
You
would
want
to
also
ensure
that
you're,
observing
and
monitoring
cannabis,
retail
and
adjusting
policies
in
accordance
with
what's
actually
happening
out
there,
and
certainly
there
would
be
an
interest
in
monitoring
and
enforcement
in
a
public
health
interest
in
monitoring
and
enforcement
on
restrictions
on
such
things
as
advertising,
marketing
and
promotion.
So
so.
G
N
Through
the
speaker,
we're
supportive
of
the
current
recommendation
as
it
stands
right
now
to
not
opt
out.
I
believe
is
the
way
the
recommendation
is
worded.
We
are
conscious
of
the
fact
that
there
are
regulatory
elements
that
do
need
to
be
considered
as
I've
just
outlined,
and
we
did
provide
before
that.
We
wanted
and
would
had
recommended
from
a
public
health
point
of
view
better
to
have
a
government-run
operation.
That
clearly,
is
not
the
direction
that's
being
taken
at
this
point
in
time,
however,
there
are
other
aspects
limiting
ours:
limiting
locations,
watching
advertising
and
promotion.
N
G
G
N
I
think
at
this
stage
of
the
game,
through
the
speaker,
if
we
were
to
opt
out,
what
you
end
up
with
is
pushing
youth
and
the
market
towards
illegal
markets
and
I.
Think
that's
a
major
concern
that
we
have
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
put
forth
that
it
was
better
to
support
the
legalization
of
cannabis.
Thank.
N
H
N
Through
the
speaker,
I
think
we
have
to
balance
the
harms
and
the
benefits
here
and
I
would
suggest
to
you
that,
having
looked
at
the
circumstances,
there
are
some
regulatory
issues
we
are
in
support
of
legalization
of
cannabis.
We
were
very
clear
on
that
issue
and
the
Board
of
Health
supported
that
stance
through
previous
reports.
N
Might
our
understanding
of
the
circumstances
that
it
is
better
from
a
health
perspective
to
at
least
create
some
regulation
and
try
to
mitigate
harms
and
learn
from
the
practices
as
we
move
forward,
we
don't
want
to
see
people
being
pushed
into
an
illegal
market
where
there
is
no
regulation
and
absolutely
no
control.
I
think
that's
a
greater
harm
to
health.
So.
H
There
therefore
you're
saying
you're
a
happy
or
content
with
unlimited
numbers
of
cannabis
stores,
opening
up
all
over
the
city.
There's
because
we
in
this
regime
right
now,
the
city
licensing.
You
have
no
power
to
stop
a
hundred
cannabis
stores
from
being
established
on
Queen
Street,
for
instance,
you're
happy
with
that
through.
N
The
speaker,
you
know
this
is
not
the
model
that
we
recommended.
It
is
not
the
model
I
recommended
to
the
Board
of
Health,
and
it
was
not
the
model
that
the
Board
of
Health
recommended.
However,
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
there
are
other
substances
out
there.
Alcohol
in
particular
that
actually
doesn't
have
much
in
the
way
of
regulation,
and
it
does
cause
some
harm,
but
by
moving
it
into
a
regulatory
environment,
you
have
the
better
options
available
at
our
behest
in
terms
of
actually
mitigating
the
risks
to
health.
You.
H
Know
I
would
say
there
is
no
regulatory
environment
here,
because
it's
the
Wild
West
they
could
established
a
cannabis
store
next
to
a
mental
health,
Outreach
Center
they
could
establish
one
next
to
a
child
daycare
center.
They
could
establish
one
next
to
five
methadone
clinics.
Add
another
50
cannabis
shops,
so
by
opting
in
this
is
forever.
What
I
think
some
those
you
think
is
better
to
say:
we
want
to
opt
out
that
gives
us
the
option
of
opting
in
a
later
date.
Once
we
get
some
regulatory
powers
locally,
don't
because
you
want
regulatory
powers.
H
So
why
not
have
this
leverage
whereby
say
we
may
opt
in
later,
but
we
first
want
to
get
some
regulatory
powers
to
protect
public
health
to
protect
vulnerable
communities?
Why
would
you?
Why?
Would
you
give
up
this
leverage
by
at
this
time
saying
yes
without
consultation
with
the
public,
we're
going
to
opt
in
so
through.
N
N
However,
you
know
regulation
and
the
specific
rules
I
may
have
to
defer
to
my
colleagues
here,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
reviewed
this
very
carefully
and
we
believe
that
the
greater
harm
here
is
in
pushing
things
towards
an
illegal
market
with
unregulated
product
and
unregulated
circumstances.
Altogether.
Now,.
H
It's
not
a
matter
of
being
against
that.
What
I'm
saying
is
why
not
give
yourself
the
power
is
a
city
as
Board
of
Health
to
say:
listen.
We
want
more
regulatory
powers
to
protect
the
public.
So
let's
wait
a
month
by
rushing
to
opt-in,
you
give
yourself
you
give
up
that
option
and
you
won't
have
any
opportunity
to
do
your
hours
at
the
location.
I
mean.
Do
you
want
the
cannabis
shop
and
not
to
say
that
this
is
a
reality.
I
believe
eventually,
gonna
have
to
opt
in
now
so,
let's
hold
on.
Q
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
just
for
context,
councilor
coal,
we
have
had
an
experience
of
retail
cannabis
stores
operating
in
the
city
of
Toronto,
since
March
of
2016
wholly
unlawfully
up
to
over
90
prior
to
the
legalization.
We
do
understand,
and
we
did
report
to
Council
and
council
did
endorse
a
provincial
ear
n
store
model
with
the
change
and
the
considerations
for
from
a
public
interest
in
public
health
and
safety
perspective.
We
do
believe
there
are
considerations
in
that
regard.
In
the
provincial
statute.
Q
We
are
an
ongoing
discussion
with
the
alcohol
Gaming
Commission
of
Ontario
who's
been
identified
as
the
registrar.
There
are
opportunities
once
an
application
for
a
retail
store
is
received
for
the
public
council,
the
city
to
offer
input
and
respect
to
public
interest,
particularly
focused
around
concerns
related
to
public
health
and
safety,
access
for
youth
and
the
Packt
of
the
illicit
market.
So
there
are
mechanisms.
Currently,
the
regulation
as
well
does
provide
for
operating
hours
from
9:00
a.m.
until
11
p.m.
understanding.
Q
The
conversations
we've
had
with
the
AG
CEO
as
recently
as
this
morning
that
this
is
a
bit
of
a
learning
curve
for
all,
but
they
are
as
the
undertaking
that
I
have,
as
they
are
taking
a
very
strict
and
considerate
approach
in
the
regulation
that
they
have
and
the
laws
that
they're
acting
within
to
ensure
that
the
Public
Interest
bite
for
all
three
levels
of
government
and
the
public
health
objectives
that
are
sought
are
met.
Thank
you.
A
K
I
K
Q
Q
This
is
based
on
the
first
two
years
of
funding.
There's
40
million
dollars
set
aside
to
be
shared
across
municipalities.
We
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
next,
so
there's
this
first
tranche
in
January.
The
second
tranche
is
coming
in
March
and
then
there's
additional
funding,
there's
a
source
for
extraordinary
expenses
related
to
enforcement,
and
there
are
requirements
on
what
the
funding
can
be
used
for.
There's
also
some
provision
and
I'm
not
sure.
Q
I
Is
our
what
is
our
revenue
share?
Do
we
know
don't
know
that,
yet
what
a
revenue
share
is.
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
because
in
2016,
councilor,
Frankie,
raucous
and
I'd
sent
a
letter
outs
outlining
a
number
of
things
in
BC.
These
places
need
to
be
200
metres
from
schools,
community
centered,
neighborhood
houses,
no
ATMs.
Is
that
something
that
we're
able
to
look
at
with
what
you
suggested
miss
Cooke,
which
is
that
there
will
be
a
conversation
with
counselors
and
others
about
the
siting
of
the
private
retail
operations.
Q
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
what
is
in
the
provincial
legislation
is
the
150
meter
buffer
from
a
school
beyond
that
it
speaks
to
the
public
interest,
so
once
an
application
is
received
for
a
retail
store
authorization,
the
city,
the
public,
the
municipality
has
the
opportunity
to
provide
input
indicating
concern
around
public
health
and
safety.
He.
I
N
I
I
I
The
retail
outlets
that
have
been
there
for
years
are
now
all
closed
with
a
number
to
phone
for
home
delivery.
Are
you
aware
that
what
have
been
the
private
retail
money-making
operation
are
now
moving
to
a
new
model
where
they're
closing
retail
and
now
suggesting
people
can
phone
and
have
home
delivery?
Yes,.
Q
I
Q
D
Poured
thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker,
and
through
you
to
staff,
so
I
know,
there's
a
couple
questions
about
the
often
opt
outs,
so
we
do
not
have
too
often
right
this.
Second,
we
have
the
option
of
afternoon
and
any
dates
if
we
were
to
opt
in
I
assume
that
there
is
no
reversing
that
we're
in
Warren
is
that
is
that
accurate.
D
D
Q
N
D
Q
You
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
with
the
new
provincial
statutes.
We've
actually
received
some
extraordinary
authorities
for
enforcement,
including
the
opportunity
to
issue
interim
closure
orders
against
illegally
operating
storefronts,
which
we
have
done.
We've
also
sought
and
received
designation
for
the
enforcement
of
the
provincial
statute
by
MLS
by
law
enforcement
officers,
taking
some
of
that
burden
off
of
the
Toronto
Police
Service
and
working
in
partnership
with
them
to
address
the
illegals.
There
are
significant
fines
captured
in
the
cannabis
Control
Act
as
well,
for
operators
and
those
participating
in
the
illegal
market
and.
D
I
guess
what
we're
on
that
train
of
thought?
Three:
human
AM
speaker:
the
costs
associated
I'm,
really
curious
about
the
costs
associated
to
pre
legalization.
What
were
the
cost
to
your
department,
closing
down
in
legal
cannabis,
shops,
I,
guess
in
conjunction
with
Toronto
police
mm-hmm?
Would
that
be
correct?
Yes,.
Q
Q
Q
So
it's
our
III,
madam
Speaker
I
preempted.
Your
question,
sorry,
certainly,
the
extent
of
enforcement
cost
and
responsibility
will
be
dependent
upon
the
decision
of
counsel
and
whether
we
opt
in
or
opt
out
and
if
we
are
opted
out
what
that
outfall
of
potential
illegal
operations
will
be
prior
to
October
17.
We
had
92
illegal
storefronts
operating
in
Toronto
on
October
17,
the
day
of
legalization
that
was
down
to
36,
open
and
operating
illegal
storefronts.
Q
As
of
yesterday,
we're
down
to
14,
that's
the
lowest
number
we've
been
at
for
illegal
illegally
operating
storefronts
since
March
of
2016.
So
no
the
goal
and
the
purpose
of
recommending
the
opt-in
was
to
ensure
that
there
is
a
legal,
regulated
market
and
available
availability
of
the
product
for
consumers
who
wish
to
consume
and
help
defeat.
The
impact
of
the
illegal
market
that
we've
experienced
here
in
Toronto
greater
than
any
other
jurisdiction
in
Canada
right.
D
Q
So
through
you,
madam
speaker,
certainly
the
the
intention
and
the
goal
is
once
there
is
a
regulated
lawfully
operating
a
retail
access
for
consumers
to
the
product
that
the
illegal
market
will
be
going
away
and
ultimately
reduce
our
needs
for
enforcement.
Time
will
tell
certainly
I
think
the
that's
our
belief
that
that
will
occur.
Okay.
S
Q
Q
Through
you,
madam
speaker,
certainly
when
this
started,
sir
back
in
March
of
2016,
we
started
legalization,
there
were
a
lot
of
discussions
had
and
really
it
depended
upon
the
approach,
because
there
was
the
responsibility
for
distribution
for
retail,
was
given
by
the
federal
government
to
the
province
and
the
province
to
determine.
Certainly
our
inputs
along
our
public
health
concerns
and
our
public
safety
and
public
nuisance
concerns
fed
into
those
discussions.
Q
S
Thank
you
I'm
curious
about
potential
additional
tools
that
the
concerns
that
we
hear
about
often
are
about
the
location,
the
density
and
the
distribution
of
the
stores
does
the
City
of
Toronto?
Do
we
have
any
way
of
providing
regulations
around
the
distribution,
the
density
of
the
stores?
At
this
point?
No.
Q
S
Q
3A,
madam
Speaker,
certainly
our
ability
to
enact
by
laws
governing
placement
site
is
not
permitted
by
the
law,
but
there
is
everything
permitted
for
us
to
have
those
ongoing
discussions
on
how
the
impacts
are
occurring
in
the
city.
I
would
expect
that
ongoing
dialogue,
as
we
work
through
this
new
world
of
legalization
right.
Okay,
if.
S
Q
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
certainly
so
the
just
for
clarity
we
are
in
unless
a
resolution
is
passed
and
provided
to
the
province
by
January
22nd
indicating
that
we
are
opting
out
okay,
okay,
we
do
recognize
that.
Quite
quite
honestly,
since
March
of
2016,
we
have
been
the
most
impacted
municipality
in
this
entire
region.
As
far
as
illegal
storefronts
go
and
as
I
said,
when
we
did
a
significant
enforcement
effort
in
May
of
2016,
we
were
up
at
almost
90.
Q
At
that
point
we
were
up
again
at
almost
90
the
other
jurisdictions
around
us
Markham
Vaughn,
Richmond,
Hill
Mississauga
have
not
experienced
the
illegal
storefront
issue
that
we
have.
So
it's
very
it's
difficult
to
contextualize.
What
would
happen
in
an
if
we're
opted
in
or
we're
off
to
doubt
scenario,
I.
Believe,
though,
the
opting
out
around
us
will
put
additional
pressure
on
and
may
encourage
people
to
continue
to
operate
illegally
in
Toronto.
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Well,
just
before
that,
madam
Speaker,
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
that
we
hadn't
formally
welcomed
here,
because
we've
just
begun
to
meet
our
new
chief
financial
officer,
Heather,
Taylor
and
she's
here,
sitting
next
to
the
city,
manager
and
I
was
most
anxious.
We
should
do
that
because,
having
now
sat
through
one
morning
of
council,
I
didn't
want
her
to
escape.
L
We
hadn't
we
had
introduced
her
because
I
think
she's
now
realizing
the
complexities
and
difficulties
of
our
budgeting
process
here,
but
she
comes
with
a
distinguished
career
in
the
Ontario
public
service
at
the
Ministry
of
the
Environment
and
also
service,
Ontario
and
I.
Think
we
were
very
lucky
to
get
her
and
she's
part
of
the
team
now,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
if
this,
our
first
business
meeting,
that
her
presence
here
was
acknowledged
and
that
we
gave
her
a
very
warm
welcome
and
noticed
that
you
it's
too
late
now.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
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Thank
you
before
we
recess
members,
the
clerk
has
advised
me
that
a
confirming
confirming
bylaws
required
to
support
councilors
decision
on
item
1.1
and
to
meet
and
to
meet
a
filing
deadline
in
this
matter
later
today,
so
counselor
Grimes,
you
have
a
motion
to
introduce
the
confirming
bill.
Yes,.