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City Council, meeting 2, January 30, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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0:10:57 - Call to order
A
We
acknowledge
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit,
the
Anishinaabe,
the
Chippewa,
the
Hutt
nashoni
and
the
wind-up
peoples,
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations,
Inuit
and
maytee
peoples.
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto
is
covered
by
treaty.
Thirteen
with
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit
for
the
benefit
of
those
who
are
connected
to
the
Internet.
A
The
city
clerk
has
posted
all
of
the
agenda
materials
for
today's
meeting
at
Toronto,
dot,
CA
/,
council
members,
I
want
to
ignore
the
city
clerk
and
her
staff
for
the
new
anthem,
recording
and
video
that
started
our
meeting
today.
Thank
you
to
the
staff.
The
anthem
was
performed
by
the
singing
of
Toronto's
largest
LGBT
O+
mixed
community
chorus,
composed
of
more
than
140
members
who
reflect
the
diversity
of
the
city.
Video
images
and
editing
were
provided
that
by
the
city's
in-house
photo
video
production
and
unit
of
the
City
Clerk's
office
members.
A
B
A
B
Well,
thank
you
for
that
support.
So
I,
don't
look
like
I'm
completely
out
of
it.
Madam
Speaker
I
would
hope
in
this
term
of
office
good
morning,
everybody
and
I
hope
in
this
term
of
office.
This
will
be
the
first
of
many
important
trophies
that
are
celebrated
here
in
City
Council
on
behalf
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
but
none
would
give
us
greater
pride
than
today
to
celebrate
and
recognize
as
we
try
to
do
any
chance.
B
We
can
the
just
excellent
members
of
our
Toronto
paramedic
service
in
November
of
2018,
a
team
of
Toronto
paramedics
participated
again
in
the
International
trauma.
Life
support
conference
trauma
competition
and
they
won
first
place
for
the
second
year
in
a
row.
To
win
once
is
amazing
in
this
international
competition,
but
for
our
city
of
Toronto
and
our
team
to
win
twice
is
a
truly
significant
achievement.
B
The
competition
takes
place
annually
and
in
2018,
seven
teams
from
around
the
world
competed
in
a
series
of
simulated
scenarios
and
participants
are
judged
on
the
standard
of
care
as
adjudicated
by
an
international
trauma
care
organization.
The
winning
team
consisted
of
our
paramedics,
Jamir
Bembridge,
Rachel,
Jane,
ER,
Christopher
rotolo,
and
along
with
their
coach,
Superintendent,
Martin,
Johnston,
Christopher
and
Rachel
our
returning
champions,
and
this
is
Jimmy's.
B
First
competition
and
Rachel
was
also
honored,
with
the
George
Neely
Addis
memorial
award
and
this
award
is
presented
to
the
trauma
care
competition
participant
who,
during
the
competition,
demonstrates
the
highest
level
of
professionalism
and
leadership
in
trauma
care,
and
if
that
name
rings
a
bell
with
you,
it
well
should
because
it
was
George.
Elliot
us
was
a
deputy
commander
of
our
paramedics
who
tragically
lost
his
life
in
a
motorcycle
accident
in
2017,
and
we
paid
tribute
to
him
in
this
chamber
at
that
time.
B
He
was
also
a
dedicated
member
of
the
International
trauma
life
support
organization.
What
is
particularly
I
think
noteworthy
about
this,
but
it
should
come
as
no
surprise,
given
the
immense
community
spirit
and
community
contribution
of
our
all
of
our
paramedics
from
the
chief
down
is
that
this
team
voluntarily
practiced
for
the
competition
in
in
evenings
and
outside
of
their
regular
shifts.
So
they
stepped
up
to
volunteer
to
be
part
of
this
competition
and
then
and
brought
such
great
credit
to
the
City
of
Toronto
in
doing
as
well
as
they
did
in
the
competition.
B
And
so
I
will
say
to
you.
You
have
set
a
an
admirable
precedent
here,
which
we
hope
will
be
repeated
by
other
Toronto
teams,
not
just
in
bringing
the
trophy
once,
but
in
bringing
it
twice
and
we're
looking
forward
to
seeing
that
good
example
followed
and
I'd
like
to
ask
you
all
to
come
up
here
and
bring
the
trophy
I
think
you
have
it
with
you
to
be
recognized
formally
by
the
council
and
to
have
a
photograph
taken
and
so
that
we
can
all
share
in
the
celebration
of
your
work.
C
C
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Yesterday
January
29th
marked
the
second
anniversary
of
the
horrific
attack
and
mass
shooting
at
the
Islamic
cultural
center
of
Quebec
City,
a
mas
in
Quebec
City
on
the
evening
of
January
29
2017.
Two
years
ago,
six
men
were
killed
and
19
others
were
injured.
They
were
at
their
place
of
worship.
They
were
congregating
in
prayer,
my
heart
and
I
believe
our
heart
goes
out
to
the
family
and
friends
of
all
those
victims,
those
who
were
murdered
and
those
who
were
injured.
C
C
A
B
Last
night
on
behalf
of
the
council
again
and
the
people
of
Toronto
to
simply
make
the
statement
that,
as
other
parts
of
the
world
are
seemingly
running
in
the
direction
of
polarization
and
division,
we
and
Toronto
just
have
to
exactly
the
opposite
direction
and
keep
running
as
hard
as
we
can.
And
it
means
all
the
things
that
counselor
wong-tam
said
about
recognizing
and
speaking
up
and
doing
the
things
in
a
very
practical
way
to
make
sure
that
we
remain
a
place.
B
A
A
D
A
B
Do
a
madam
Speaker
I
would
move
that
the
report
from
meeting
one
of
the
executive
committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration
and
I
will
just
speak
briefly
to
it.
There
were
a
number
of
other
items
that
were
considered
but
I
think
by
far
the
most
important
item,
and,
of
course
it
will.
It
will
be
a
significant
item.
Mike
first,
two
key
item
on
the
agenda
of
our
meeting
today.
Is
the
housing
now
initiative
this?
B
B
Somebody
at
the
executive
committee,
one
of
the
decadence,
said
that
he
hoped
that
the
type
of
substantive
announcement
that
this
represents
the
housing
now
initiative
would
be
an
annual
event
and
I
certainly
would
concur
in
that,
at
least
in
other
words,
that
I
would
hope
that
every
year,
if
not
more
frequently,
we
can
be
coming
forward
throughout
the
term
of
this
council,
with
initiatives
as
significant
as
this
and
frankly,
more
frequently
than
annually,
so
that
this
represents
a
beginning.
But
I
don't
think
we
should
underestimate
for
a
second,
madam
Speaker,
the
significance
of
this
beginning.
B
This
is,
and
it's
going
to
get
done
because
I
have
the
determination,
I,
know,
deputy
mayor
by
law
does
and
I
know
the
members
of
council
do
and
I
know
the
city
staff.
Do
that
I
think
this
by
itself,
when
it
gets
done
when
these
eleven
pieces
of
property
are
successfully
developed
into
rental
housing,
including
a
substantial
component
of
affordable
housing
and
and
deeply
affordable
housing,
hopefully
participated
in
by
as
many
nonprofit
housing
organizations
as
possible.
I'd
be
very
happy
if
the
result
of
a
competitive
circumstance
was,
they
were
all
developed
by
the
nonprofit
sector.
B
B
This
development
as
a
whole,
which
is
estimated
to
produce
10,000
new
rental
units
and
3,700,
affordable
housing
units,
is
something
that
is
in
excess
of
the
size
of
the
Saint
Lawrence
community
when
it
was
created
all
those
years
ago
and
was
seen
quite
properly
as
the
significant
event
that
it
was,
and
so
I
think.
If
we
do
this
properly.
B
If
we
do
this
expeditiously
and
we
do
it
in
a
way
that
is
meant
to
reach
out
to
the
broadest
spectrum
of
people
that
are
in
the
housing
business
and
give
them
all
a
chance
to
tell
us
what
they
can
do
for
us
with,
obviously
a
very
important
iteration
being
what
is
the
component
of
their
proposal?
That
is
affordable
and
in
in
in
in
in
instances
deeply
affordable
and
everything
in
between
I
think
it's
gonna
make
a
huge
contribution
to
getting
a
good
start
on
a
challenge
that
we
have
in
front
of
us.
B
I
would
like
us
to
exceed
that,
but
this
is
the
start,
and
this
is
the
start
that
I
hope
we
will
allow
to
happen
in
a
way
that
doesn't
get
it
bogged
down
as
people
in
the
City
of
Toronto
have
often
done
in
the
past,
where
there
are
so
many
conditions
and
studies
and
consultants
and
different
kinds
of
things
that
you
actually
don't
end
up
getting
on
with
the
job.
Our
city
staff
have
moved
I.
Think
with
absolutely.
You
know
incredible
speed
to
put
a
substantive
report
in
front
of
us
today.
B
That
gives
us
a
roadmap
to
go
forward
and
actually
get
this
done.
There
are
indications
from
them
that
dependent
upon
the
results
of
the
RFP
that
will
result.
We
could
actually,
in
some
of
these
cases,
if
some
of
these
parcels
of
land
have
shovels
in
the
ground
to
begin
the
process
of
construction
next
year
and
I.
B
Think
that
will
be
something
that
the
city
of
residents
that
the
City
of
Toronto
will
take
note
of
if
we
can
actually
move
that
quickly
to
begin
to
address
what
is
a
growing
problem
in
the
city
and
so
I
commend
this
this
initiative
to
the
members
of
council.
It
is
something
that
is
a
beginning,
not
an
end.
B
It
is
a
significant
beginning,
though
it
is
not
another
study,
it
is
an
actual
series
of
11
pieces
of
property
that
we've
taken
and
I
think
will
quite
properly
use,
as
opposed
to
a
lot
of
the
past
practice,
which
was
to
sell
these
off
and
get
money
and
I'm
sure
that
money
was
put
to
good
use
on
various
things.
But
in
this
case
we
are
specifically
saying
no
we're
not
going
to
sell
those
off.
B
What
we're
gonna
do
is
we're
going
to
lease
them
out
and
make
them
available
to
the
nonprofit
and
and
the
housing
sector
generally
to
produce
rental
housing
and
specifically
substantial
amounts
of
affordable
housing
and
we'll
have
more
to
say
about
this
as
the
debate
unfolds.
But
I
do
commend
this
particular
item
as
well
as
the
other
items
that
were
approved
by
the
executive
committee.
This
one
I
would
note
like
most
of
them
was
a
unanimously
by
the
executive
committee
and
I
hope
it
will
get
the
same
kind
of
support,
I
hear
at
City
Council.
A
E
Would
we
have
two
items
on
the
agenda
here
today?
The
first
is
related
to
heat
relief,
in
particular
around
enhanced
measures
to
mitigate
the
harms
of
heat,
during
that
what
can
be
dangerous
summer
months,
especially
for
vulnerable
populations
and
people
in
the
second,
is
a
confidential
update
from
our
legal
staff
related
to
student
nutrition.
That
is
all
that's
in
front
of
us
today.
I'll
just
keep
my
remarks
brief.
Thank.
A
A
F
A
G
F
H
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
one
of
infrastructure,
Environment
Committee,
listed
on
the
agenda
Council
be
presented
for
consideration.
I
would
simply
like
to
congratulate
councilor
McKelvey
for
putting
her
name
forward
as
vice-chair,
and
she
was
selected
by
her
colleagues
unanimously.
I
would
like
to
also
bring
to
attention
to
items
that
are
before
you.
H
One
is
item
I,
1.4
I
would
a
series
of
linked
Lozier,
x'
lane
reductions
and
turn
restrictions
that
will
be
affecting
Midtown
along
the
Eglinton
crosstown
and
I
urge
councilors,
who
will
be
affected
by
that
to
take
a
close
look
at
what's
before
you
and
how
it'll
affect
your
local
communities?
I
would
also
like
to
bring
to
attention
counselors
to
ie
one
point:
five:
where
committee
unanimously
made
the
biking
on
Richmond
streets
in
Adelaide,
Street
little
bike
lanes
permanent.
Thank
you
very
much.
Man.
A
I
A
G
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
two
of
the
North
York
Community
Council,
listed
on
the
agenda
for
council
be
presented
for
consideration.
I
would
only
like
to
congratulate
councilor
Keller
for
Keller
Carol
for
putting
her
name
forward
as
vice-chair
of
North
York
Community
Council.
J
A
H
C
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
have
several
petitions
to
present
and
I
would
ask
for
indulgence
just
because
it
takes
a
little
time
to
read.
First
petition
is
signed
by
in
total
there's
13,000
signatures
of
from
residents
from
across
the
city,
calling
on
city
council
to
declare
homelessness
and
housing.
The
housing
crisis,
a
state
of
emergency
front
line
housing
workers
are
reporting
a
dramatic
new
wave
of
homelessness
and
under
housing.
C
In
2018
there
were
approximately
one
hundred
and
eighty-one
thousand
individual
on
Toronto
centralized
weightless
an
applicant
can
expect
to
wait
seven
years
or
more
for
a
bachelor
unit,
12
years
or
more
for
a
one-bedroom
unit
and
10
years
and
longer
for
larger
units.
Toronto's
housing
crisis
is
so
dire
that
disaster
relief
structures
are
being
put
into
use
and
they
are
responding
to
the
emergency
at
all
levels.
The
city
has
a
capacity
to
shelter
over
7,000
people,
and
yet
we
are
very
short
from
meeting
the
need.
C
The
province
of
Ontario
emergency
response
plan
defines
an
emergency
as
a
situation
or
impending
situation
that
constitutes
a
danger
of
major
proportions
that
could
result
in
serious
harm
to
persons
or
substantial
damage
to
property
or
other
health
risks.
It
goes
on
to
say
that
these
situations
could
threatens
Public,
Safety
public
health,
the
environment,
property
and
critical
infrastructure
and
economic
stability.
It
is
clear
to
us
that
Toronto
situation
needs
several
of
these
criterias.
The
government
of
Canada's
Emergency
Management
Act
states
that
a
government
institution
may
not
respond
to.
C
Provincial
aid
may
may
not
respond
to
provincial
emergency
unless
the
government
of
the
province
requests,
assistance
or
there's
an
agreement
with
the
province
that
requires
or
permits
assistance.
It
is
imperative
that
we,
as
a
municipal
government,
declare
that
homelessness
is
a
humanitarian
crisis
which
we
do
not
possess.
The
resources
to
manage
alone
in
Toronto.
We
call
on
the
provincial
government
to
assist
us.
The
Ministry
of
Community,
Safety
and
Correctional
Services
is
tasked
with
this
response.
Under
the
emergency
response
and
civil
protections
act.
C
C
I
have
one
thousand
two
hundred
and
six
petitions
from
across
Toronto
and
the
GTA
calling
on
the
mayor
and
city
council
declare
a
state
of
emergency
on
homelessness
and
housing,
including
seven
hundred
and
sixty
six
petition
signed
by
residents
of
Toronto
Centre
I
have
one
hundred
and
ninety-six
petitions
from
residents
from
Humber
River,
Black
Creek
at
topical
North
and
York
Center,
as
well
as
959
petitions
signed
by
residents
living
in
Davenport.
Calling
the
mayor
and
city
council
declare
a
state
of
emergency
on
homelessness
and
housing.
C
In
addition,
I
have
79
petitions
from
Scarborough
Agincourt
residents
calling
on
the
mayor
and
city
council,
declares
state
of
homelessness,
emergency
on
homelessness
and
housing.
I
have
127
petitions
from
the
from
residents
living
in
Scarborough,
Park
and
Scarborough
North,
calling
on
the
mayor
and
city
council
to
declare
a
state
of
emergency
on
homelessness
and
housing
and
I
also
continue
to
rise
to
submit
34
resident
petitions
from
Scarborough
North
calling
on
the
mayor
and
city
council
to
declare
a
state
of
emergency
on
homelessness
and
housing.
C
M
Briefly,
the
beginning
of
the
petition
reads:
I,
am
your
constituent
and
I
am
writing
to
you
today
to
urge
you
to
declare
a
state
of
emergency
on
homelessness
and
housing
in
our
city?
Housing
is
a
human
right
and
it
is
our
responsibility
to
do
everything
we
can
to
take
care
of
the
people
of
Toronto
and
ensure
that
every
person
is
protected
and
safe.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
clerk's
councillor.
A
L
L
Speaker
I
rise
to
submit
815
petitions
from
Toronto
st.
Paul's,
calling
on
the
mayor
and
city
council
to
declare
a
state
of
emergency
on
homelessness
and
housing
and
331
petitions
from
Don
Valley
West,
calling
on
the
mayor
and
city
council
to
declare
a
state
of
emergency
on
homelessness
and
housing.
Queue.
K
D
E
D
N
A
D
A
Not
even
there
yet
members
I
will
not
review
the
order
paper.
We
have
one
deferred
items
on
this
agenda
and
your
business
item
CC
2.1
on
52
52,
Finch,
Avenue,
East
to
fish
a
plan,
amendment,
zoning
bylaw,
amendment
and
site
plan
applications
request
for
direction
regarding
a
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
Hearing
the
mayor
has
designated
the
following
items
such
as
key
matters
for
this
meeting.
The
first
key
matter
is
item
e
ex
1.1
headed
implementing
the
housing
now
initiative.
That
item
will
be
our
first
item
of
business
today.
The
mayor's
second
key
item
is
item.
A
I
e
1.5
headed
Richmond
Street
in
Adelaide
Street
cycle
tracks.
That
item
will
be
the
second
item
of
business.
Today
there
are
a
number
of
related
items
on
on
the
agenda
that
I
also
propose
to
be
considered
together:
pH
1.2
on
declaring
Toronto
homelessness
and
housing
crisis.
A
state
of
emergency
with
member
motion
2.9
on
expanding
supportive
housing
in
Toronto
Council
will
need
to
waive
refer
on
the
members
motion.
First
in
item
C
C
2.5
with
item
C
C
2.6.
Both
items
relate
to
10,
st.
Mary
Street
81-85,
st.
A
Nicholas
Street
and
710
718
Yonge
Street
Local
Planning
Appeal
Tribunal
appeal
request
for
direction
notices.
Emotions
are
scheduled
to
be
dealt
with
at
2:00
p.m.
tomorrow.
Only
if
the
mayor's
key
matters
have
been
completed,
I
propose
a
City
Council
set
a
time
for
a
closed
session.
If
required
later
in
the
meeting,
the
city
clerk
has
noted
the
items
that
members
wish
to
hold
that
we
now
go
through
the
items
listed.
The
order
paper
to
take
additional
holes
I
will
recognize
requests
to
make
matters
in
and
time-specific
after
I
go
through
the
items
for
additional
holes.
L
A
L
L
A
L
G
A
G
G
A
D
A
E
A
M
And
it's
just
so
that
I
could
make
a
single
sentence
statement
that
on
item
CC
two
point
three
I
would
like
to
thank
the
previous
councillor
for
resolving
this
rather
contentious
issue,
and
one
day
he
can
explain
to
all
of
us
how
he
somehow
got
the
community
on
board
with
a
proposal
that's
taller
than
the
original
one.
Somehow
the
settlement
was
reached.
Thank
you.
A
F
I
K
A
A
C
L
G
A
Members
I
remember:
the
council
I
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
preparing
your
motions
in
advance.
The
crook
staff
are
here
to
help
you
prepare
your
motions
in
particular.
If
you
intend
to
move
a
motion
during
the
release,
sub
holds
I
will
insist
that
your
motion
be
prepared
in
advance
and
given
to
the
clerk.
If
you
do
not
have
your
motion
ready,
I
will
not
recognize.
You
I'm
also
reminding
members
that
you
must
state
your
motion.
First
before
you
speak
to
it.
A
Remember,
city
council
follows
a
routine
for
the
processing
and
adding
up
any
motions
without
notice
during
the
meeting.
Please
remember
that
a
motion
without
notice
must
include
a
reason
for
urgency.
If
you
have
an
urgent
motion
without
notice,
you
wish
to
bring
forward
at
this
meeting.
Please
give
your
motion
to
the
city
clerk
staff.
They
will
prepare
the
necessary
procedure
motion
for
my
review,
along
with
your
motion.
A
The
chair
must
agree.
The
motion
is
urgent
before
you
can
seek
lead
to
introduce
it
at
this
meeting,
it
will
require
18
votes
that
emotion
without
notice
to
the
agenda
during
the
meeting.
Motions
added
to
the
agenda
in
this
way
are
not
subject
to
a
vote.
To
waive
referral
to
a
committee
or
agency
I
will
be
reviewing
all
motions
carefully
and
will
advise
council
Abdi
tree
says
which
motions
need
a
motion
tab
to
the
agenda.
We
will
now
go
to
the
mayor's
key
item,
which
is
e
X
1.1.
A
O
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Madam
Speaker
I
have
questions
of
staff
that
they
may
not
be
expecting
because
they're
they're
really
about
TCH,
see
but
I
spoke
to
staff.
Earlier
I
spoke
to
mr.
GAD
and
staff,
and
she
thinks
that
they
might
be
able
to
in
round
ballpark
numbers
be
able
to
handle
this
there's
an
issue
around
how
many
of
these
will
be
deeply
affordable
and
how
many
will
be
affordable.
O
As
these
projects
come
about
right
now
in
in
TCH
see
our
biggest
social
housing
provider,
we
already
have
a
range
of
people
who
are
paying
along
the
the
the
scale.
That's
noted
in
this
report
summer
are
deeply
affordable
or
in
other
words
our
GI.
We
also
have
a
significant
number
of
people
in
TC
HC
circumstances.
Now
that
are
paying
market
value
or
somewhat
below
do
we
know
that
in
a
percentage
so.
I
O
O
And
is
the
the
threshold
at
which
they
have
to
start
paying
market
value?
Is
it
similar
to
the
thresholds
in
this
proposal
for
it
for
the
new
housing
now
projects
as
soon
as
their
income
would
represent,
if
market
value
would
represent
30
percent
and
therefore,
at
about
forty
five
thousand
a
year,
they
start
to
have
to
pay
market
generally.
E
O
So
now
now
what
I
know
about
this
is
only
anecdotal.
Cuz
I
know
this
from
talking
to
attendance
in
my
own
project,
but
do
we
have
stats
on?
Do
we
have
an
understanding
of
how
those
how
those
units
are
regarded
once
that
tenant
is
paying
market
value?
Do
we
have
the
same
standards
about
housed
under
house?
O
But
but
but
say,
they're
now,
they're
earning
their
forty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year,
they're
paying
their
their.
It's
slightly
below
market
value.
I
believe
that
once
the
market
rent
in
TC
HC
once
they're
paying
that
do,
they
have
all
the
same
set
of
considerations.
I
have
a
new
child.
Can
I
have
a
larger
unit?
Are
they
considered
in
the
same
way
as
the
RG
I
tenants,
the.
E
O
E
O
What
is
the
process
once
we
build
all
these
that
say,
we
have
land
office
success
here
and
we
build
10,000
units.
How
does
one
qualify
for
these
units?
Is
it
a
waiting
list?
Is
it
a
lottery?
Is
it
one
time
lottery
for
all
of
them,
or
is
it
a
lottery
for
each
project
as
it's
completed?
What's
the
plan.
G
P
O
E
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
just
have
a
brief
question
more
specific
on
the
staffing
model,
the
temporary
staffing
model
and
I
and
I
can't
find
it
now.
But
it
makes
mention
somewhere
in
your
report
that
we
are
looking
at
the
housing
Secretariat
to
be
I,
guess
structured
with
the
with
this
table,
but
also
mentions
about
looking
at
using
existing
staff
resources
as
well.
Is
that
to
complement
these
positions
or
is
that
over
and
above.
I
My
apologies
through
the
speaker,
we're
bringing
in
the
housing
secretary
just
to
kick-start
these
11
projects
and
then
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
how
we
oughta
mint
it
with
the
affordable
housing
office
because
in
the
fall
we'll
also
be
bringing
forward
the
house.
Our
new
10-year
housing
plans
for
councils
consideration
and
then
we're
gonna
see
how
we
leverage
the
housing,
Secretariat
and
the
affordable
housing
office
to
drive
not
only
the
housing
now
program,
but
the
other
programs
to
reach
our
targets.
That
who
will
be
considering
this
fall
through
that
housing
plan.
Okay,.
D
N
P
The
chair
councillor
through
all
of
the
process
for
the
offering
of
the
11
sites
we
do
intend
to
try
to
achieve
deeper
and
greater
affordability
than
what's
in
the
program
in
front
of
you.
But
this
is
the
base
program
that
we
believe
is
essential
to
going
forward,
recognizing
the
amount
of
resources
that
are
being
brought
by
the
land
and
also
by
the
cities,
fees
and
charges.
Relief,
though.
N
P
N
I
The
through
the
speaker
in
the
report,
we
do
recommend
certain
delegated
real
estate
mats.
Certain
authorities
be
delegated
to
the
DCM
and
the
CFO,
and
the
create
a
o2t,
great
teal
board
on
certain
real
estate
matters
in
order
to
expedite
the
process.
But
anything
related
to
the
affordable
housing
program
would
be
the
housing
Secretariat.
So.
N
Just
looking
at
the
page,
there's
four
of
the
sites
that
make
up
almost
to
six
thousand
of
the
ten
thousand
some
units
and
then
there's
some
of
these
sites
that
are
quite
small
I
know,
there's
an
appetite
to
have
a
number
of
range
of
providers,
not
just
large
housing
developers,
but
other
providers
yeah
without
giving
instructions.
Would
your
thinking
be
that
some
of
those
tiny
sites,
mr.
garden,
would
be
useful
for
a
co-op
or
nonprofit
for
70
70
units?
That's
not
a
Tridel.
Let's
saying.
P
Through
the
chair,
there
are
a
number
of
the
sites
that
do
lend
themselves
towards
nonprofit
housing
development
and
certainly
the
report
speaks
to
enhancing
the
ability
of
the
nonprofit
housing
sector
to
participate
in
this
program.
So
we
would
expect
to
see
their
involvement,
particularly
in
those
locations
where
they
also
demonstrate
the
capacity
to
actually
deliver
the
program
and.
N
N
I
A
E
E
Right,
thank
you.
The
delivery
agent
for
the
affordable
housing
units
that
have
been
identified
in
this,
the
3700
is
there
any
requirement,
and
mr.
Gadahn
I'll
direct
this
to
you.
Is
there
any
requirement
in
this
report
that
any
or
all
of
these
would
be
owned
and
operated
by
the
nonprofit
and
co-op
sector
and.
P
E
P
E
P
E
P
P
E
You
very
much
and
one
final
question
I'm
so
sorry
to
keep
you
on
the
hot
seat.
I
know
you're
recently
off
a
flu,
so
I
appreciate
it.
The
number
and
the
quality
and
my
quality
I
mean
the
level
of
affordability.
Both
the
the
quantity
in
the
quality
by
that
I
mean
the
level
of
affordability
for
affordable
housing.
Is
there
patek
the
potential
for
us
to
increase
both
of
those
in
this
proposal
through.
E
P
The
housing
now
initiative
and
the
bidding
process,
we
see
it
as
an
opportunity
to
award
projects
to
those
groups
that
do
better.
This
is
the
base
program
in
front
of
you
we're
quite
concerned.
I
will
say
that
any
layering
on
of
additional
requirements
will
essentially
chill
the
bidding
process
and
result
in
it
not
being
successful.
Does
so.
E
Does
the
proposal
and
the
call
for
proposals
include
any
metrics
that
state
that
those
proposals
that
have
increased
numbers
of
affordable
units
and
the
deepening
of
affordability
of
those
units
will
be
ranked
higher?
Does
the
current
proposal
assess
those
on
a
higher
matrix?
If
that's
an
objective,
the.
P
D
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
This
would
be
executive
director
of
affordable
housing.
I
appreciate
that
we're
coming
close
to
the
affordability
with
a
99-year
period.
I
know
our
typical
practice
through
programs
and
policy
is
more
closer
to
twenty
or
forty
nine
years.
How
did
we
arrive
at
99?
How
are
we
able
to
do
that.
P
Through
the
chair,
the
instructions
that
we
received
from
Council
in
December
included
maintaining
the
sites
in
public
ownership
in
discussions
with
Canada
Mortgage
and
Housing
Corporation,
and
the
financing
that
they
would
have
available
for
projects
like
house.
Now
they
requested
that
we
have
a
99
year
term,
wait.
D
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
market
offering
piece
and
how
we're
setting
up
the
criteria.
For
that.
Can
the
evaluation
framework
account
for
applicants
that
are
going
beyond
the
minimums
and
providing
different
weight
on
the
criteria
towards
affordability
and
particular
deep
affordability
through.
P
Through
the
chair,
absolutely
I
think
you
can
understand
that
all
of
this
different
staff
and
departments
and
the
individuals
that
create
tÃo
and
create
tÃo
as
an
organization
understand,
we
have
an
affordability,
housing
crisis
in
this
city
and
we're
looking
to
respond
to
that.
That's
what
this
proposal?
That's
the
guts
and
the
essential
pieces
of
this,
which
is
essentially
to
try
to
achieve
as
much
affordable
housing
as
possible.
We've
put
in
front
of
you.
What
we
believe
is
a
proposal
that
is
workable.
D
Thank
you
should
we
add,
perhaps
a
piece
to
the
weighting
that
responds
to
proponents,
whether
they're,
you
know
co-op,
proponent
partners
or
nonprofit
or
private
sector
that
actually
provides
some
weighting
towards
those
who
have
successfully
delivered
affordable
housing
projects
in
the
city.
Before?
Is
that
something
that
would
be
reflected
in
the
the
criteria
through.
D
And
in
your
experience,
I
know,
infrastructure
Ontario
different
different
partners
have
had
bidding
processes
to
deliver
affordable
housing
across
the
city.
In
your
experience,
do
you
expect
or
anticipate
that
some
of
the
applications
or
bids
will
be
coming
in
above
and
beyond
minimum
requirements?
Or
would
you
anticipate
that
people
will
just
be
landing
on
on
the
minimums.
P
Through
the
chair,
I
think
we'll
see
a
full
range
of
proposals.
Of
course
we
know
that
the
nonprofit
housing
sector
has
a
extreme
interest
in
this
initiative
and
in
creating
and
increasing
the
stock
of
nonprofit
housing,
and
so
we
would
expect
and
hope
to
see
some
of
those
proposals
in
this
process
and
also
that
they
would
be
successful.
Okay,.
D
Thank
you
page
16.
We
talked
about
TGS,
Toronto,
green
standards
for
the
projects
and
I'm,
not
sure
who,
if
this
is
you
or
if
this
is
someone
else,
but
we
outlined
that
the
projects
are
expected
to
meet
the
energy
component
of
the
Toronto
green
standards
to
your
two
requirements.
Would
it
would
it
be
safe
to
say
we're
expecting
them
to
meet
all
of
the
TGS
tier
two
standards.
Q
D
D
P
D
And
then
one
final
question:
this
is
about
Ontario,
Building,
Code
and
accessibility
and
so
I'm,
not
sure
who
would
speak
to
this.
But
my
understanding
is
the
Ontario
Building
Code,
with
respect
to
accessibility
requirements
for
tenants,
doesn't
necessarily
address
all
of
the
challenges
that
some
of
our
tenants
will
face.
We've
got
twenty
percent
of
the
units
that
were
keying
up
to
be
accessible,
so
is
that
accessible
with
respect
to
the
Ontario
Building
Code?
Or
do
you
anticipate
we'll
be
preparing
a
separate
document
that
would
outline
requirements
for
people
with
accessibility
challenges
beyond
just
mobility?
Q
The
chair,
certainly,
they
would
be
subject
to
the
Ontario
Building
Code.
In
addition,
if
there
are
proponents
that
include
housing
across
the
full
spectrum
of
need
that
we
would
certainly
consider
through
the
business
of
of
securing
the
the
actual
proposals,
we
would
look
at
the
accessible
requirements
in
in
relation
to
the
particular
client
need
that
would
be
associated
with
those
specific
proposals.
Thank.
D
Q
The
speaker
know
the
the
initiative
is
as
outlined
in
the
report
is
different
in
that
the
city
will
initiate
zoning
changes
itself
in
the
pre
procurement
stage
of
the
process,
where
it
we
will
be
able
to
define
the
zoning
permission
on
the
site
and
then
those
pre
zone
sites
will
go
up
for
procurement.
So
to
that
extent
the
city
will
be
in
the
driver's
seat
and
council
will
make
separate
decisions
on
the
zoning
of
those
properties
later
after
procurement.
Q
Winners
of
those
of
those
bids
will
perfect
those
applications
and
if
they
need
to
go
to
go
to
the
committee
of
adjustment,
and
certainly
they
will
also
be
subject
to
the
site
plan.
Approval
process
so
in
every
respect,
will
be
following
the
city's
planning
process,
but
will
certainly
be
keeping
our
eye
on
this
in
terms
of
moving
as
swiftly
as
we
can
and
as
consistently
as
we
can
and.
Q
Through
the
through
the
speaker,
anyone
would
be
entitled
to
seek
any
additional
height
or
density,
but
I
would
think
through
the
procurement
process,
we're
going
to
be
very
clear
about
what
we
accept,
as
as
appropriate
contextually
appropriate
development
on
these
sites,
taking
into
account
all
of
the
requirements
in
the
city's
official
plan.
So
I'm,
not
anticipating
that
we'll
be
getting
into
a
second
round
seeking
additional
height
and
density.
Our.
D
Is
that
the
intention,
or
could
we
put
in
provisions
to
prevent
that
if
it's
something
we
don't
want
to
happen
or
we
wouldn't
share
and
any
benefits
from
that?
Would
we
want
to
you
know
you
know
stratify
the
site
or
is
force
some
such
measure
to
ensure
that
that
developer
doesn't
buy?
It
then
go
for
increased
density
and
and
we
get
no
more
affordable
housing.
Q
D
Q
A
B
You,
madam
Speaker,
my
first
couple
of
questions
are
to
the
I
think
to
the
chief
planner.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
know,
and
and
if
you
get
let
members
of
council
know
how
we
are
going
to
expedite
these
particular
parcels
of
land
and
the
proposals
that
come
forward
in
respect
of
them,
while
still
doing
our
due
diligence.
In
other
words,
how
are
we
gonna
make
these
move
through
the
system
as
quickly
as
possible
through.
Q
The
speaker,
the
the
report,
anticipates
pre
zoning
the
site,
so,
first
of
all
and
very
importantly,
putting
in
place
the
zoning
bylaw
is
necessary
to
give
certainty
to.
The
proponents
is
a
really
essential
step
in
expediting
the
approval
process.
The
proponents
will
know
with
a
great
level
of
certainty
what
they
will
be
able
to
construct,
and
in
that
sense
you
condense
the
period
of
negotiation.
On
the
other
hand,
we
are
taking
these
through
the
normal
planning
process
and
we'll
be
out
consulting
with
communities
with
local
councillors
to
develop
the
e
zoning
parameters
for
these
sites.
Q
So
we
as
as
we've
conceived
in
the
report,
want
to
strike
that
appropriate
balance
between
making
sure
that
we've
achieved
all
the
goals
in
the
Official
Plan
the
planning
goals.
That
council
would
normally
consider
well,
at
the
same
time,
with
dedicated
staff
moving
these
through
pre
zoning
as
quickly
as
we
can.
That.
B
Was
excellent
because
you
gave
me
a
two
for
one
answer,
because
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
could
reassure
the
public
that
there
will
be,
even
notwithstanding
our
expedition
of
these
things,
no
diminished
opportunity
for
people
in
the
communities
to
come
and
be
part
of
the
consultative
process
for
these
particular
parcels
of
land.
Yes,.
B
On
okay,
thank
you.
These
questions
probably
go
to
somebody
from
the
affordable
housing
office.
Maybe
mr.
Cadden,
but
whoever
seems
most
appropriate
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
give
the
members
of
council
on
the
public
a
general
sense
of
the
marketplace
in
in
this
context.
You
know
the
marketplace,
meaning
the
nonprofit
community
and
others.
P
Through
the
chair,
mr.
maryk,
we
have
had
at
the
city
20
years
of
experience
in
the
development
of
affordable
housing,
both
nonprofit
and
private
sector
organisations.
Even
today,
we
have
nonprofit
and
private
sector
organisations
building
affordable
housing
for
us
and
generally
those
have
been
under
federal
provincial
programs.
This
particular
initiative
is
a
kind
of
if
you
will
a
made
in
Toronto
approach,
and
we
believe
that
we
need
is
sufficient
flexibility
to
ensure
that
the
proposals
can
come
back
to
us,
because
this
is
4.2
billion
dollars
with
a
construction
activity.
P
13,000
jobs
involved
over
the
course
of
the
construction
of
these
buildings,
and
so
we
I
believe
think
we
need
everybody
in
the
boat
if
you
will
rowing
forward
on
this
initiative,
for
it
to
be
successful.
So
there's
no
one
organization
or
no
one
sector
that
actually
is
capable
of
delivering
this
entire
initiative,
and
particularly
if
this
is
the
beginning
of
the
housing
now
program,
we're
looking
to
scale
it
up
even
further.
P
B
More
question
to
you
as
well
through
you,
madam
speaker,
to
mr.
garden.
You
were
asked
earlier
on
about
the
about
about
this
kind
of
layering
on
and
and
said
that
we
obviously
didn't
yet
have
the
actual
documents
that
would
issue
in
effect
formally
their
proposals.
Are
they
request
for
proposals
on
these
pieces
of
land?
B
You're,
not
ruling
out
that
we
might
say
that
you're
simply
saying,
as
of
this
moment,
I
guess
in
a
way
trying
to
be
take
a
holistic
approach
to
making
sure
the
overall
process
is
successful,
that
that
is
something
that
could
the
form
a
part
of
the
of
the
terms
of
the
proposals.
Requests
for
proposals
that
are
put
out
there.
P
Mr.
mayor,
through
the
chair,
that's
correct:
we
took
the
principles
that
council
gave
us
that
were
adopted
in
December.
We
applied
them
to
this
report
within
the
space
of
four
weeks
and
all
of
the
team
working
on
this
initiative
are
interested
in
achieving
as
much
affordable,
supportive
transitional
as
much
housing
as
possible
for
those
people
that
are
in
the
greatest
need
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
H
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
to
staff
normally
in
the
course
of
development
applications,
when
you
add
density,
puts
pressure
on
local
infrastructure.
This
is
this
case,
is
a
little
unusual
will
who
will
be
responsible
for
infrastructure,
the
cost
of
infrastructure
upgrades
whether
it
be
storm
water?
So
it's
recreational
through.
Q
The
speaker,
as
is
the
case
with
any
development
applications,
the
all
of
the
servicing
requirements
of
each
site
will
be
evaluated.
They
will,
of
course,
be
in
various
states
of
readiness
for
development,
so
our
various
divisions
involved
in
that
process
will
review
what
is
necessary
in
some
cases.
In
many
cases,
development.
The
development
costs
related
to
the
infrastructure
is
on
the
developer.
So
these
developments
have
to
include
the
capacity
to
to
improve
that
infrastructure.
In
some
cases
rarer
cases.
The
infrastructure
includes
improvements.
H
H
P
H
H
Q
The
the
motion
that
executive
pass
was
for
us
to
consider
implications
on
commuter
parking,
we're.
Certainly,
as
I
indicated
at
executive
committee,
we
would
prioritize
the
the
development
of
the
affordable
housing
over
the
production
of
commuter
parking.
The
motion
was
to
consider
it
through
the
procurement
process
and
we
will
consider
it,
but
council
is
well
aware
of
the
city's
policies
where
we
are
trying
to
reduce
congestion.
Q
H
H
Q
Would
say,
through
the
speaker
generally
were
through
the
Official
Plan.
We
are
trying
to
reduce
commuter
parking
across
the
city.
The
the
idea
of
of
reducing
vehicular
travel
is
is
a
consistent
policy
approach
across
the
city.
We
all
look
at
opportunities
and
the
demand
at
travel
demand
management,
that's
associated
with
every
development.
So,
in
the
case
of
the
market,
there
may
have
been
an
ongoing
need
for
some
for
some
parking
related
to
the
market
and
the
tourism
that
goes
on
in
the
market
area.
A.
H
Very
little
time
left
very
quickly,
just
north
of
the
50
Wilson
Heights
site,
there's
55
acres,
a
bacon,
Toronto
land,
the
Allen
district
plan.
The
only
thing
there's
the
Shepherd
West
subway
station-
is
there
any
reason
why
that
site
was
avoided.
A
site
we've
been
trying
to
kickstart
for
many
years
and
pick
a
site
where
there's
just
gonna
be
nothing
but
confrontation
over
over
the
next
few
years,
as
commuters
object
to
the
proposal.
Q
J
P
J
P
The
chair,
the
fund,
is
intended
to
supplement
also
what
Canada,
Mortgage
and
Housing
Corporation
makes
available
through
a
project
Development
Fund,
but
in
particular,
given
this
initiative
to
build
capacity
generally
within
the
nonprofit
housing
sector
and
also
support
them.
Potentially
in
any
of
the
particulars
as
well.
I
will
note,
as
well.
Council
has
on
received
a
number
of
letters
and
pieces
of
correspondence
from
nonprofit
housing
organizations
that
have
actually
commented
in
support
at
that
particular
part
of
the
initiative
and.
P
J
Then
my
last
question
for
the
awarding
of
these
I
guess:
I,
don't
know
what
what
the
proper
word
is
if
it's
a
contract
or
or
development,
the
ability
to
build
and
develop,
and
much
of
the
exact
wording
of
that
I
just
mean
you're
gonna
have
mandatory
requirements,
but
then
will
there
also
be
consideration?
How
will
you
consider
like
value-added
like,
for
example,
employing
local
youths
and
construction
or
increasing
the
number
of
accessible
units
etc,
like?
How
do
you
see
waiting
out
mandatory
versus
value-add
through
this
process
through.
P
The
chair
we
have
in
our
current
evaluation
process
additional
points
that
would
be
awarded
to
organizations
that
provided
additional
affordability
in
the
past.
It's
also
resulted
where
there's
been
additional
length
of
affordability,
in
this
case
it's
99
years.
So
if
someone
came
in
and
said
well
we're
prepared
to
do
40
years
of
affordability,
we
would
say
thank
you,
but
no
thanks.
It's
99
years
and.
P
J
P
A
K
You
to
the
I'm,
not
sure
who
will
answer
it
I'm.
Looking
at
the
recommendations
that
were
actually
being
asked
to
vote
on
here,
recommendation
9
says
there
will
be
a
maximum
of
one-third
ownership
home
within
any.
You
know
any
bid
we'll
look
at
now.
I
I've
heard
that
we're
only
doing
these
where
we
retain
the
land
and
I'm
confused.
How
does
someone
wind
up
owning
a
home
on
land
that
we
own.
K
K
P
K
Just
to
really
nail
that
down
in
recommendation
25,
it
says
that
you,
the
market,
offering
process,
will
give
a
priority
to
retaining
public
ownership
of
lands.
Nowhere
in
any
recommendation
that
I
can
find
does
it
say
that
there
must
be
retention
even
for
the
rental
units
of
public
lands,
have
I
missed
something
in
the
recommendations.
P
K
K
So,
just
to
summarize
on
any
of
the
bids
up
to
one
third
of
the
land
could
be
sold
off
for
condomania,
and
there
is
no
guarantee
that
if
all
the
bids
come
back
and
and
for
the
remaining
two-thirds
of
the
land,
they
they
want
to
purchase.
We're
merely
giving
a
party
we're
not
saying
they
must
give
us
a
99-year,
Alysse,
I.
Think.
K
K
K
P
M
C
You
very
much
madam
Speaker,
following
up
on
councilor
purchases,
question
1/3
condominium
ownership.
Obviously,
that
will
be
transferred
into
the
hands
of
private
ownership.
One-Third
of
the
the
assorted
lands
will
be
market-based
rents
is
the
intention
for
those
lands
to
be
transferred
into
the
hands
of
private
landlords.
C
C
Thank
you,
and
because
the
the
language
of
the
report
encourages
nonprofit
and
co-op
sector
involvement,
but
not
a
requirement,
but
I
hear
that
in
your
answer
to
councilor
perks.
Question
is
that
that
your
intention
is
to
to
chain
the
language
and
the
procurement?
Is
that
correct?
Because
how
do
we
ensure
that
nonprofit
sector
co-op
housing
will
participate
in
the
bid
process?.
P
P
What
we're
looking
at
here
is
achieving
the
results
of
getting
the
housing
built
and
it
being
made
affordable
for
the
residents
that
we're
looking
to
house
for
essentially
over
a
99-year
term,
who
can
do
that
will
be
dependent
on
who
comes
in
and
bids
I
can't
require
the
nonprofit
housing
sector
to
come
in
and
bid
on
a
site
that
will
be
a
decision
that
they'll
have
to
make
and
they'll
have
to
make
a
business
case
that
they
can
achieve
that
and
get
it
done.
But.
C
This
is
this
is
getting
to
the
root
of
the
discussion.
Right
now
is
that
council
can
require,
through
the
procurement
offering
process
that
nonprofit
sector
nonprofit
housing
sector
cooperative
sector
is
required
to
be
a
part
of
any
developers,
bid
to
obtain
the
lens
you're
saying
that
we
can't
do
it,
because
for
what
reason,
we're
saying
that
we
could
amend
in
the
report.
P
P
C
P
The
chair,
the
objective
of
the
report,
is
that
there
could
be
a
business
plan
presented
by
an
organization
whether
it
be
nonprofit
or
private
on
each
of
these
sites,
that's
achievable,
regardless
of
whether
or
nonprofit
or
private
and
within
that
process,
to
achieve
as
much
affordable
housing
as
possible.
So
we
will
put
a
cap
on
the
maximum
number
condominium
units
so.
C
Then,
how
likely
is
it
that
the
nonprofit
sector,
by
way
of
even
putting
a
million
dollars
aside
to
try
to
help
them
build
their
capacity?
How
likely
is
it
that
they're
going
to
come
in
and
compete
competitively
with
the
for-profit
well
financed
development
sector?
If
we
don't
make
it
a
requirement
of
their
participation
in
the
bid
process
through.
P
C
That
means
that
not
every
single
site
will
have
affordable
units
and
deeply
affordable
units
if
they
are
to
be,
if
those
smaller
sites
at
least
desirable
sites,
the
least
valuable
sites
are,
are
going
to
be
left
for
the
nonprofit
sector
to
compete
for
the
more
profitable
sites.
The
more
desirable
locations,
the
ones
where
we
can
actually
get
more
density
on
there
will
be
left
for
the
condominium.
For-Profit
developer.
Is
that
the
scenario
that
we're
setting
up
by
way
of
this
report
through.
P
The
chair,
I,
don't
believe
so
wait.
There's
a
number
of
organizations
that
currently
are
in
the
nonprofit
space
that
worked
very
successfully
with
the
private
sector
and
I
suspect
that
they
will
be
involved
as
they
were
in
the
West
Don
lands
as
an
example
to
provide
services
to
those
residents
that
are
in
the
affordable
units.
The.
C
P
Through
the
chair,
the
purpose
of
this
report
is
to
provide
a
housing,
that's
affordable
within
a
range
of
incomes
and
occupations.
This
is
not.
This
is
not
a
program
that
is
designed
to
provide
deeply
affordable
housing
at
the
outset,
organizations
that
come
in
and
bid
on
this
process
that
might
have
access
and
be
able
to
achieve
greater,
deep
and
affordable
housing
are
more
well
than
welcome
to
apply,
and
we
would
actually
provide
greater
points
to
those
organizations
that
bring
those
sorts
of
benefits.
Thank.
M
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
gonna
ask
a
question
of
mr.
Gavin
and
then
the
CFO
and
then
I'll
be
back
to
mr.
Gavin
again,
just
so
that
you're
aware
when
you
need
to
get
up
and
sit
down,
is
it
safe
to
say
mr.
Gavin
that
the
reason
why
we're
not
recommending
a
larger
investment
from
the
city
from
cash
is
that
we
don't
have
the
capital
available
in
our
capital
budget
to
build
this
housing
ourselves?
We
were
relying
on
the
private
sector
to
bring
that
capital.
Is
that
fair
to
say
through.
P
The
chair
other
jurisdictions
and
I'll
quote,
for
instance,
in
British
Columbia,
where
they
have
a
1.2
billion
dollar,
affordable
housing
fund
and
the
City
of
Vancouver
has
a
two
billion
dollar
endowment
fund
has
made
decisions
that
are
different
than
the
decisions
that
have
been
made
in
Ontario
or
even
the
city
of
Toronto,
so
I'm
operating
and
the
whole
program
is
designed
around
leveraging
resources
we
have
other
than
going
into
the
city's
capital
program.
Other.
M
Than
going
to
the
city's
capital
program,
because,
to
be
honest,
that's
the
space
doesn't
exist
within
the
city's
capital
program
for
an
investment
of
this
kind,
unless
it
doesn't
count
towards
that
ceiling.
And
so
I'd
like
to
ask
the
CFO.
And
can
you
explain
how
we
determine
what
refundable
that
is
versus
just
regular
debt.
L
M
A
P
M
So
that
doesn't
include
the
GTA
region.
We
have
a
sub
zone
that
is
just
adding
together
central
east
west
and
north
and
averaging
those
that's
grow,
there's
a
and
yet
another
another
tranche.
So
the
neighborhood's
do
have
zones,
though,
and
we
know
which
neighborhoods,
that
we've
identified
these
projects
are
in
correct.
M
P
Through
the
chair
again,
you
need
the
rent
in
order
to
construct
the
building,
and
so
yes,
you
could
look
to
achieve
deeper
affordability,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
have
to
pay
for
the
construction
of
the
building
so,
and
so
so,
counselor
I
don't
be
argumentative
about
it.
We
are
happy
to
go
back
and
do
a
sensitivity,
analysis
based
on
the
zones
in
which
they
all
occur,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
still
need
a
rent
that
is
going
to
cover
the
cost
to
actually
construct
and
operate.
These
buildings.
M
P
F
F
F
P
The
chair
so
as
part
of
the
bidding
process
we're
anticipating
organizations
that
come
forward
and
participate
in
this
program
that
have
the
ability
to
bring
rent
supplements
and
other
benefits.
We
also
don't
know
going
forward
what
the
federal
National
Housing
Benefit
will
provide,
so
that
could
be
built
into
this
program
as
well
to
achieve
rents
that
are
lower
than
these.
P
F
P
A
point
where
your
housing
program
also
can
only
it
reaches
a
point
where
it
can
only
deliver
so
much
affordability,
and
then
you
need
other
programs,
income
support
programs,
housing
benefits,
housing
allowances,
rent
supplements
that
then
bring
the
rents
lower
and
we're
dissipating
that
organizations
that
participate
in
this
program
will
help
do
that,
and
also
that
the
government's
may,
in
the
course
of
the
next
99
years,
step
up
and
introduce
programs
to
help
people
that
are
in
deep
poverty.
Okay,.
P
F
All
right,
Thank
You,
mr.
Lynn
Turner
I
just
wanted
us,
so
these
11
projects
I
touched
on
it
at
Executive,
Committee
around
there's
the
planning
process
and
and
the
zoning
and
that
so
these
11
projects
there's
also
some
concern
around
public
parking
and
I'm
sure
some
residents
will
have
issues.
Have
we
looked
at
anything
about
a
design
project
for
individually
for
each
of
these
projects
or
how
we're
incorporating
or
gonna
get
landscape
architect's?
Maybe
leading
design
landscape
architects
involved
in
each
project.
So
there
are
little
more
palatable
teach
neighborhood,
where
they're
going
through.
Q
The
speaker
design,
of
course,
is
significant
policy
consideration
in
the
city's
official
plan,
high
quality
design,
no
matter
who
lives
there
and
we've
got
an
increasingly
sophisticated
repertoire
when
it
comes
to
our
understanding
of
how
to
build
a
good
high
quality
housing
for
communities
and
for
people.
The
social
the
housing
office
has
designed
standards
and
the
city
has
designed
standards
and
it
has
guidelines
for
vertical
communities
and
we
have
tools
at
our
disposal,
including
the
design
review
panel.
So
we
will
very
much
be
mindful
of
the
city's.
Q
Q
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
just
want
to
follow
up
I
guess
with
mr.
Lyne
turn
on
my
friend
councillor
passed.
This
question
on
the
infrastructure.
I
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
Toronto
water
and
give
a
structure
there,
but
back
back
to
the
recreation
and
I
got
a
chance
to
be
briefed
by
staff.
On
the
six
points
in
a
change.
Councillor,
Fletcher
did
point
out
that
two
of
the
sites,
the
six
point-
interchange,
Blouin,
Islington,
very
close
together,
Dundas
Street
being
a
growth
one
of
the
growth
areas.
G
What
point
do
we
and
I
know?
There's
a
recreation
community
center
planned
for
that
area?
But
what
point
does
that
all
come
together
in
these
high-growth
years,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
achieve
the
mayor's
target,
probably
over
30%
of
affordable
there.
But
how
do
we
make
sure
that
there's
things
at
the
bottom
of
these
tall
buildings,
for
the
youth
and
and
the
seniors?
And
how
does
that
all
come
together?
Where
does
that
come
together
with
staff?
So.
Q
So
all
of
that
is
part
of
the
mix,
as
that's
happening
at
a
neighborhood
scale
at
the
scale
of
each
and
every
development
that
comes
through
this
program,
we'll
be
looking
for
opportunities
to
build
in
the
any
community
requirements,
certainly
at
great
retail,
but
any
other
community
requirements
that
come
through
the
circulation
process,
with
all
the
divisions.
So
we
looked
for
and
coordinate
those
opportunities
on
each
and
every
on
each
and
every
site.
So
is.
G
That
new
Greg,
so
you
know
you
were
around
with
Humber
Bay
shores,
oh
and
they're,
screaming
now
that
we
didn't
put
the
infrastructure
in
I,
know:
councillor
Nancy
Anna
she
had
a
community
center
was
on
the
books
forever.
I
finally
got
to
open
a
couple
years
ago,
ten
years
years,
but
how
do
we
get
that
onto
the
books
at
early
stage
that
staff
staff
see
this
growths
gonna
happen,
I'm,
not
just
talking
about
six
points
wherever
it's
gonna
be
there's
growth
coming.
G
Q
And,
in
fact,
with
councils
adoption
of
large
planning
frameworks
last
year,
you
can
see
the
evidence
of
of
council
looking
at
growth
plans,
whether
it
be
the
downtown
North,
York,
Center,
Scarborough,
Center,
Etobicoke,
Centre,
Humber,
Bay
shores,
Yonge
and
Eglinton,
putting
in
place
the
planning
frameworks,
but
also
the
infrastructure
strategies
that
are
required
to
support
that
growth.
So
we
know,
for
example,
if
you've
got
50,000
people
coming
into
an
area,
how
many
rec
centers,
how
many
daycares
the
size
of
the
pipes,
the
size
of
the
roads,
the
transit
connections.
Q
All
of
those
things
have
to
be
planned
out
in
advance
in
a
general
way,
get
the
divisions
onside
with
putting
them
in
their
capital
budgets
over
the
long
term
as
those
areas
build
out.
So,
as
we
plan
out,
Etobicoke
Centre
we're
very
much
undertaking
that
process
and
coordinating
with
all
the
departments
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
have
the
use
of
planning
tools,
whether
it
be
section
37
or
holding
bylaws,
to
make
sure
that
we've
timed
and
are
better
at
because
I
grant
you
some
areas
have
gotten
ahead
of
the
infrastructure.
G
Q
G
Q
A
I
I
P
I
P
I
P
Through
the
chair
we
were
talking
fifty
years
ago
or
so
and
generally
the
the
city
of
Toronto's
participation
in
the
early
nonprofit
housing
programs
was
between
eight
and
twelve
percent
of
the
overall
capital
cost
to
deliver
it
with
no
operating
funding.
Yet,
as
we
know
today,
through
federal
and
provincial
sources,
there
is
operating
funding
that
goes
to
places
like
st.
Lawrence
right.
P
A
P
P
I
Also,
if
so,
you
picked
the
guiding
principles
of
having
the
sites
being
on
on
so
99
year,
old
Lee's
create
the
most
affordable
housing,
the
deepest
affordable
housing.
So
we
have
here
the
minimum
standards.
Is
that
correct?
It's
not
that
I
mean
we're
only
gonna
get
1/3.
This
is
the
minimum
that
we're
accepting.
Has
it
been
the
case
with
other
projects
that
sometimes
we
get
more.
P
Through
the
chair,
good
I'm,
reluctant
to
say
that,
insofar
as
we're
in
some
new
territory,
here
I'll
remind
you
that,
a
month
ago,
all
of
these
sites
essentially
were
going
to
be
sold
to
the
marketplace
and
would
have
been
condominiums.
And
so
we
are
really
in
a
very
different
space
in
the
course
of
the
last
month
in
where
we
were
going
with
these
lands
and
where
we
are
today,
and
so,
as
I
said
earlier,
we
would
like
to
achieve
and
hope
to
achieve
better
in
terms
of
affordability
and
the
number
of
affordable
units.
I
For
example,
I
see
here
on
the
breakdown
that
you
give
us
some
of
these
sites,
for
example,
have
no
market
non
rental,
so
there
are
basically
50
percent
affordable.
So
each
of
these
sites
will
have
its
own
business
case
and
the
minimum
is
what
you've
put
in
the
report.
But
the
business
case
is
individual
set
for
each
of
these
sites
through.
P
The
chart
we
have
been
you
know
and
in
the
view
of
the
staff
that
have
been
involved
in
putting
this
together
for
ordinance
of
being
a
multidisciplinary
group
of
staff,
including
to
create
tio
folks,
we've
been
as
aggressive
as
we
think
we
can
be
with
the
amount
of
money
in
leveraged
land
and
forgiven
fees
that
is
available.
I
can't
do
magic
if
I
don't
have
the
tools
to
do
it.
This
is
as
aggressive
as
we
think
we
can
be.
Okay,.
L
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
to
you
too
mr.
gladden,
mr.
gladden,
you
received
questions
earlier.
Mr.
hadn't,
you
received
questions
earlier
challenging
the
rationale
for
leaving
room
in
the
strategy
for
land
sales
on
the
11
sites,
but
I,
haven't
heard
from
you
is,
is
your
articulation
for
why
you
believe
that
should
be
part
of
the
strategy,
not
the
preference,
but
an
allowance
for
land
sales
and
and,
and
moreover,
has
there
been
any
modeling
done-
I
haven't
seen
it
so
I
I
wonder:
has
there
been
modeling
done?
That
demonstrates
that
you
that
you
may
need
to
sell?
P
P
I
in
response
through
the
chair,
I
can
tell
you
both
the
nonprofit
and
the
for-profit
ownership
organizations.
I
have
a
problem
working
with
leases
on
ownership,
housing
so
and
we've
run
a
number
of
programs.
The
former
City
of
Toronto
did
where,
essentially,
as
you
get
closer
to
the
end
of
the
lease
that
asset
for
that
resident,
it
becomes
worth
worthless
essentially,
and
so
as
a
home
ownership
approach.
P
P
You
know
suggest
to
you
through
the
chair
that
we're
gonna
come
back
to
here
and
we're
gonna
have
to
go
through
essentially
opening
up
the
bids
in
determining
whether
the
bids
were
successful
or
not,
and
what
they
gave
us
and
didn't
give
us
and
I
will
suggest
to
you
that
that
will
again
chill
the
bidding
process
because
there'll
be
no
certainty
associated
with
whether
council
will
approve
that
or
not
so
you're.
Giving
us
a
base
program
here
to
work
with
and
trusting
us
as
you're
professionals
to
go
out
and
get
this
done.
P
L
Question
around
imposing
our
own
rent
control
now
would
you
have
any
objection
to
inserting
that,
at
the
very
least,
into
the
consideration
process
for
reviewing
the
proposals
so
that
we
can
perhaps
in
you
know
where
we're
able
to
do
it
say
you
know
if
we're
making
whatever
kind
of
arrangement
we
are.
You
know
with
you
the
partner.
L
P
We
are
committed
in
the
bidding
process
to
request
that
the
bidders
indicate
to
us
what
type
of
penitent
protections
would
be
available
for
those
units
that
would
not
both
the
affordable
and
the
market
units,
whether
they
go
as
far
as
imposing
rent
control,
with
respect
to
those
I'm,
not
sure
in
particular,
because
the
financial
institutions
that
will
be
required
to
be
funding.
The
and
financing
these
projects
may
have
some
concerns
with
in
that
regard,
so
we're
not
looking
to
build
in
criteria
that
then
is
going
to
knock
out
the
feasibility
that
was.
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
to
the
I,
believe
the
chief
planner
for
this.
This
report
before
us
is
a
lot
about
setting
up
a
process
that
sets
the
conditions
right
to
encourage
the
type
of
development
that
we're
looking
for
and
then
actually
there's
a
section
in
here
about
expediting
and
providing
planning
certainty.
I
take
it.
We
are
we're
actually
performing
part
of
the
development
function,
not
all
of
it,
but
part
of
it
because
we're
starting
to
set
up
the
conditions
and
start
to
think
about
the
built
form
and
the
opportunities
that
these
sites
hold.
Q
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
process
that
we're
putting
forward
in
the
report
does
not
skip
steps,
but
it
does
economize
by
putting
putting
in
place
city
initiated.
Zoning
bylaws
that
are
I
would
say,
procurement
ready.
But
in
order
for
council
to
to
to
opine
on
those
zoning
bylaw
amendments,
we
will
go
through
the
normal
plan
across
on
those
sites.
So
the
city
will
be
in
the
applicant
seat.
Q
If
you
will
and
we
will
go
out
with
local
councilors
and
discuss
the
massing
and
the
the
site
planning
requirements
for
these
sites
with
the
public
in
their
communities
as
we
normally
would
it's
just
that
the
city
is
in
the
applicants
seat
at
that
point
in
the
process,
and
we
will
have
a
statutory
meeting
like
we
normally
did
give
notice.
Everything
will
be
the
same
and
they
will
put
it
we'll
put
that
pries
owning
in
place.
That
gives
the
predictability
and
certainty
for
certainty,
for
the
bidders
who
come
along
later
is.
L
L
Okay,
so
part
of
the
part
of
the
the
process
is
to
consult
with
a
variety
of
stakeholders
in
the
instance
and
I'm
going
to
go
right
to
a
Tobago
Center.
Some
of
this
development
is
over
commuter
parking.
Are
the
people
that
park
in
the
space
today
considered
stakeholders
in
this,
and
would
they
be
consulted
in
this
process?
I
would.
Q
Q
The
speaker
absolutely
the
the
review
of
these
sites.
In
fact,
the
review
of
the
ongoing
review
of
the
impact
of
development
of
these
sites
on
the
centre
we
put
through
a
travel
demand
management
lens,
so
we're
looking
at
the
the
appropriate
provision
of
a
parking
understanding
that
those
parking
demands
are
falling
across
the
city,
especially
in
high
transit
areas.
So
we'll
look
at
the
appropriate
provision
of
parking
and
also
other
mobility
options
that
can
be
brought
to
the
people
who
will
eventually
be
living
in
those
areas.
So.
L
Q
Through
the
speaker,
each
each
site
will
look.
We
will
look
at
the
specific
needs
of
the
site
and
the
area
and
the
land
uses
that
are
being
proposed
within
a
policy
framework
of
understanding
that
we
don't
want
to
induce
excessive
parking
demand
in
these
areas.
So
we'll
put
it
through
that
lens
and
we
will
seek
to
balance
the
opportunities
if
they
present
themselves
for
parking
and
other
and
other
arrangements
that
become
that
can
be
provided
to
induce
other
modal
choices.
Thank.
A
G
P
G
So
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars,
I
I,
wondered
then
with
respect
to
the
comment.
I
believe
you
addressed
I
believe
was
councillor
Matt
Lowe.
He
talked
about
the
strategy
that
we're
utilizing
because
in
essence,
we
have
the
value
which
is
the
asset,
the
lands
and
then
you're,
basically
bringing
the
private
sector
variety
of
those
who
are
not-for-profit,
those
who
are
for-profit
and
so
on
as
part
of
the
approach
in
terms
of
strategically
developing
these
sites.
Is
that
correct
through.
P
The
chair
that
is
correct,
the
city
with
respect
to
the
affordable
rental
units,
though,
as
has
been
its
practice,
will
waive
the
development
charges,
the
planning,
the
billing
permit
fees
and
also,
during
the
term
of
the
affordability,
the
ninety
nine
years,
the
affordable
units
in
order
to
keep
them
more
affordable
I
will
not
pay
property
taxes.
Okay,.
G
I
I
understand
that,
and
so
the
value,
though,
of
the
land,
will
be
extremely
important
in
terms
of
your
assessing
in
terms
of
what
we
are
going
to
get,
whether
or
not
it's
for
affordable
housing
pieces
and
the
values
of
condos
and
the
market
rent
units.
Well
that
it's
it
isn't
that
something
that
we
really
need
to
understand
before
we
make
some
of
the
final
decisions
that
we
would
be
required
to
make
in
terms
of
how
we'll
actually
transition
the
lens
through.
P
The
chair
counselor,
this
is
a
pretty
standard
practice
where
it's
actually,
what
we're
proposing
here
is,
in
addition
to
the
incentives
that
you've
mentioned,
that
the
construction
of
the
other
housing
could
cross
subsidize
the
other
projects.
There
will
be
a
very
large
city,
create
tÃo
and
also
a
a
brokerage
firm
that
will
be
assisting
us
in
we'll.
G
Have
the
expert
help
that
we
need?
That's
what
I
wanted
to
get
to
so
I
know
that,
obviously
our
desire
is
to
effect
the
challenge
and
the
issue
around
affordable
housing
and
housing.
That
is
obviously
in
need
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
But
what
I'd
like
to
ask,
based
on
some
of
the
question
that
members
of
council
been
asking
about
the
idea
of
increasing
the
the
affordable
component
of
housing
I'm
a
little
bit
troubled
with
respect
to
a
relationship.
G
If
we
look,
for
example,
in
the
past,
that
Regent
Park
and
Aires
in
Scarborough
and
other
areas
across
the
city
where
we
seem
to
have
what
we've
actually
done,
we
have
created
a
socio-economic
condition
where
we're
housing
certain
people
in
terms
of
the
income
level
in
a
particular
area,
and
so
our
strategy,
though,
is
to
try
to
affect
that.
Is
that
correct
as
part
of
our
approach.
P
Through
the
chair
absolutely,
which
is
why
the
report
speaks
about
creating
mixed
income
communities
through
this
initiative,
as
opposed
to
and
just
by
way
of
example,
Regent
Park,
where
you've
replaced
existing
Rinker
to
income,
housing
and
you've
built
market
condominiums.
You
have
not
built
any
new
purpose-built
rental
housing.
P
This
particular
initiative
recognizes
that
it's
a
really
important
goal
to
achieve
new
purpose-built
rental
housing
in
the
city,
recognizing
that,
even
in
the
last
five
years,
80,000
condominium
units
have
opened
and
4,500
rental
housing
units
have
opened
so
you're
getting
in
this
initiative,
more
rental
housing
than
is
opened
in
the
city
in
the
last
five
years
or
that
City
Council
has
approved
previously.
So
we
think
it's
actually
a
pretty
good
direction
as
to
where
you
want
the
industry
to
begin
to
focus,
as
opposed
to
the
condominium
business
and.
G
So
can
someone
tell
me
please
what
our
budget
will
be
for
2019
for
our
investment
into
the
homeless
and
the
housing
shortage?
I
have
a
number
for
2019,
it's
about
313
million
three
hundred
and
sixty-four,
eight
hundred
and
twenty-three
thousand
last
year
we
spent
two
hundred
and
sixty
million
one
hundred
eleven
zero
nine
zero
$79.
Is
that
correct?
Mr.
artist,
can
you
maybe
help
the
chair?
That
is
correct,
so
there
have
been
some
people
who
said
to
me.
We
haven't
done
anything
to
address
this
issue
that
magnitude
and
this
Delta
dollar.
G
B
Bi
have
a
motion
that
we
just
put
up
the
screen
if
we
could,
and
it
I
hope
it
takes
into
account
a
number
of
the
points
that
were
obviously
coming
out
in
the
questions
this
morning.
With
respect
to
considerations
that
we
would
like
to
see
included
in
the
detailed
framing
of
the
request
for
proposals
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
questions.
I
certainly
heard
and
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
and
smoke.
Mr.
B
GAD
and
others
answering
questions
indicating
that
it
was
always
the
case
and
continues
to
be
the
case
that
these
considerations
that
I
have
for
purpose
of
gathering
them
together
and
making
sure
they're
put
in
one
place,
as
the
first
speaker
could
could,
could
make
sure
we
provide
to
them.
Assuming
this
motion
was
passed
by
Council
as
I
hope,
it
will
be
as
a
means
of
saying
to
them.
B
Yes,
on
the
one
hand,
we
want
you
to
address
these
things
and
I
won't
read
the
list,
because
it's
all
up
there
and
all
circulated
for
you
to
see,
but
at
the
same
time
we
want
you
to
do
it
within
the
context
of
exactly
what
mr.
Gannon
said
a
number
of
times
this
morning
and
I
will
say
for
myself.
Madam
Speaker
I
trust
our
officials.
Mr.
GAD
made
the
point
earlier,
not
in
a
moment
of
immodesty
because
he's
a
modest
man,
but
he
said
I
have
25
years
experience
and
I.
B
Think
if
you
match
that
up
with
the
experience
that
others
who
are
working
with
him
have
in
this
area
to
to
devise
a
request
for
proposals
for
these
11
pieces
of
land
that
are
going
to
be
well
in
terms
of
having
a
robust
response
that
produces
obviously
from
our
standpoint
as
much
affordable,
deeply,
affordable,
supportive.
You
know
rental
housing,
as
you
possibly
could
do,
while
giving
up
as
little
as
possible
in
the
context
of
any
kind
of
questions
of
land
ownership
and
others.
B
That's
obviously
what
I
think
we
all
want
to
do,
but
the
risk
that
we're
on
madam
Speaker
and
I
want
to
put
you
some
of
my
time
just
to
indicate
to
the
members
of
council,
but
that
that
I
will
be
voting
against
some
other
motions
that
may
be
coming,
that
I
anticipate
may
be
coming
from.
Others
I
think
we're
starting
to
minimize
that
down
through
an
exercise
like
this,
where
this
is
meant
to
be
responsive
to
a
number
of
the
very
valid
concerns
and
objectives
that
that
I
shared.
B
This
is
meant
to
be
responsible
that
to
indicate
to
our
staff
as
they
go
about
doing
this
thing.
We
want
these
things
taken
into
account
to
use
the
wording
of
the
motion.
It
says,
provide
greater
consideration
in
the
offering
process
to
proposals
that
address
the
following
issues,
and
then
it
goes
through
levels
of
affordability,
deeper
levels
of
affordability
and
so
forth,
and
so
on,
but
I
will
be
voting
against
those
motions
that
have
the
effect
of,
in
effect,
rendering
rendering
ineffective
or
potentially
ineffective
this
entire
RFP
process.
It's
like
a
Christmas
tree.
B
You
have
a
Christmas
tree,
that's
standing
up
and
you
put
too
many
ornaments
on
it.
It's
going
to
fall
over
eventually
and
I
think
we
run
the
risk
here
of
doing
what
we
always
are
not
always,
but
we
often
do
which
is
taking
a
significant
opportunity
to
move
forward
what
mr.
Gavin
just
described
as
a
huge
opportunity
to
build
rental
housing
generally
to
to
achieve
a
number
of
rent
of
affordable
rental
units
that
is
in
excess
of
anything.
That's
been
done
since
the
st.
B
Lawrence
community
that
at
one
at
one
sitting
as
it
were,
where
we
they'll
all
come
individually,
but
when
you
add
it
all
up,
it
has
the
potential
to
be
something
that
will
make
a
significant
opening
contribution
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that
as
I
did
in
my
remarks
earlier
this
morning.
This
is
just
the
beginning.
My
determination
on
this
is
absolute
in
terms
of
saying
that
we're
going
to
meet
and
exceed,
if
we
possibly
can
the
targets
that
have
been
set,
because
the
need
is
so
urgent.
B
But
what
we
can't
do
is
is
kind
of
render
this
dead
or
very
ill
on
arrival
from
the
beginning.
By
airing,
on
top
as
we
do
in
this
chamber,
we
have
experts
to
provide
us
with
the
best
advice
possible
as
to
what's
going
to
achieve
a
robust
and
hopefully,
a
wide
array
of
choices
for
us
to
look
at
in
terms
of
what's
best
to
achieve
those
objectives,
and
we
will
then
say
no,
no,
we
know
better.
We
know
better
in
the
context
of
what
our
I
understand.
B
B
Gavin,
this,
madam
Speaker,
there
is
a
model
they
have
to
implement
that
sort
of
says
that
in
order
to
finance
and
operate
these
developments,
if
I
can
call
it
that
on
these
parcels,
the
mathematics
have
to
work.
It's
a
straightforward
business
proposition
that
applies
to
the
nonprofit
sector
and
as
much
as
it
applies
to
to
the
of
the
government
it's
to
the
government
and
and
to
enter
the
private
sector.
B
Finally,
I
would
just
say
as
a
point
that
was
made
in
the
last
few
minutes,
that,
based
on
some
of
the
questioning
of
councillor
Thompson,
which
is
that
our
desire
I
think
as
a
council
is
to
create
new
mixed
income
communities
and
that
we
don't
want
to
create
an
either-or
situation.
I
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
everywhere.
We're
trying
to
do
this,
and
so
I
just
hope.
B
H
H
O
A
quick
question,
madam
Speaker,
because
I
do
see
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
have
come
up
since
since
executive
consideration
supported
here.
The
one
that
I
don't
see
is
one
that
that
I
raised
in
the
in
the
first
briefing
of
this
that
I
hear
time
and
time
again
when
I'm
meeting
with
people
from
my
revitalization
neighborhoods,
which
is
okay,
who
lives
here.
Who
gets
to
live
here,
and
so,
while
I
don't
see
it
here,
because
it
doesn't
really
fit
in
a
building
report.
O
B
I
first
got
here:
madam
Speaker,
through
you,
I
asked
the
question
when
we
were
starting
to
approve
affordable
housing
units
which
I
was
delighted
at
doing.
How
do
we
determine
who
gets
these
and
I
got
an
answer
that
was
a
kind
of
a
combination
of
confusing
and
unsatisfactory
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
much
greater
transparency.
We
much
need
to
have
and
I
think
so.
B
So
the
bottom
line
answer
is
to
me
it
is
a
very
worthy
use
of
the
staffs
time
to
take
a
look
while
we're
at
it,
because
we're
not
gonna
have
11,
as
I
heard
the
answer
to
your
question
earlier
on
11
different
lotteries
as
it
were,
and
I
think
we
should
take
a
look.
Now
is
the
time
before
we
have
11
of
those
to
say.
Is
that
the
right
way
to
do
this,
and-
and
you
know
all
the
questions
that
flow
from
that
so
I
have
no
resistance.
In
fact,
I
welcome
that
review.
K
B
A
request
to
staff:
yes,
madam
Speaker,
through
yes,
it's
a
request
to
staff,
given
a
made
within
the
context
of
the
answers
that
I
heard
mr.
gladden
giving
earlier
on,
which
is
that
they
recognize
what
our
objectives
are
and
they've
been
set
out
here
again
and
I
stated
them
again,
because
I
think
I
understand
them
fairly
well
in
terms
of
maximizing
all
the
things
that
you
would
think
of
our
benefit
to
the
people,
we're
trying
to
help
that
are
in
need
of
the
most
help
as
it
were.
B
And
so
yes,
it's
a
request
and
we'll
come
back
with
a
document
that
relates
to
these
requests
for
proposals,
the
11
of
them.
That
I
hope
will
will
accommodate
all
of
these
things,
but
they
will
do
it
within
that
context.
I
referenced,
which
is
that
you
have
to
balance
the
inclusion
of
all
these
things
and
the
way
in
which
you
included
against
the
fact
that
we
need-
and
we
want
a
robust
response
from
the
nonprofit
and
the
other
elements
of
the
housing
community
to
make
sure
this
works.
Okay,.
K
B
B
N
Yes,
just
picking
up
counselor
Burks
was
saying
I'm
reading
this
in
overseeing
the
market,
offering
process
to
provide
greater
consideration
in
the
offering
process
to
proposals
that
address
the
following
issues.
So
I
just
will
clarified
that
the
goals
that
are
being
here
are
laid
out
here
are
deepening
some
of
the
the
32
recommendations
and
so
I'm.
Reading
this
that
an
RF
somebody
responds
to
different
firms,
respond
to
one
of
the
sites
that
the
one
that
would
have
these
pieces
built
in
in
some
way
would
be
given
greater
consideration.
N
B
Is
correct
as
I
see
it?
Madam
speaker,
you
know
to
put
it
in
hopefully
a
way
that
isn't
overly
simplistic.
If
you
had
a
point
system
for
looking
at
those
who
respond,
you
would
at
your
at
we're
asking
the
staff
and
we
are
asking
I,
fully
fully
conceived.
That's
what
we're
not
directing
we're
asking
them,
because
they
are
the
ones
that
I
believe.
B
Madam
Speaker
will
exercise
the
right
degree
of
expertise
in
assessing
the
balance
between
between
how
much
benefit
you
give
for
these
kinds
of
things
so
as
not
to
chase
people
out
of
the
out
of
the
bidding
process.
But
yes,
that
you'd
get
an
extra
points
based
on
how
many
of
these
they
they
include
in
the
criteria
for
having
more
deeply
affordable
or
for
having
more
affordable
or
having
more
effective
means
of
protecting
the
rent
in
the
market
controlled
unit.
So
that's!
Yes,
that
is
the
intention
of
this
and.
B
I
would
doubt
that
would
be
the
case,
but
far
be
it
for
me,
I
mean
I,
hope,
maybe
I
hope,
as
I
said,
I'd
be
thrilled
if
every
one
of
these
ended
up
in
the
hands
of
a
non-profit
housing
provider,
I'd
be
thrilled
if
they
all
put
in
far
more
affordable
housing
than
we
expect.
So
those
numbers
go
from
3700
to
some
other
much
higher
number
I'd
be
thrilled
if
there
was
supportive
housing.
B
Assume
that
a
speaker-
yes,
that
will
be
the
case
and
of
course,
we've
got
some
ado.
Sment
sin-
the
overall
scheme
here
to
facilitate
the
full
participation
of
the
nonprofit
sector,
and
we
heard
mr.
Lyne
turn
indicating
the
community
will
be
involved.
We
can't
ignore
that
either
in
terms
of
some
of
these
items,
where
the
community
will
set
at
the
table
and
help
us
to
make
the
right
decisions
about
each
of
these
eleven
proposals
each
of
these
eleven
sites.
Thank.
A
C
With
respect
to
the
the
motion
that's
before
us
and
in
recognizing
that
the
mayor
himself
has
just
said
that
he'll
be
thrilled,
if,
if
all
these
considerations
could
be
put
into
the
procurement
process,
I'm
wondering
at
mr.
mayor,
there
was
also
the
the
question
from
councillor
Fletcher
that
there
be
a
round
table
set
up
to
bring
the
stakeholders
to
the
table
to
sort
of
go
through
the
the
expectations
of
the
city.
Will
these
stakeholders
include
the
other
orders
of
government
I.
B
Honestly,
madam
Speaker,
three,
who
can't
answer
that
question
I
mean
I.
One
thing
I
did
discover
in
my
trip
to
Ottawa
yesterday
is
that
you
know
we've
got
the
usual
problem
in
matching
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
on
all
fronts,
not
just
this
with
the
affordable
housing
strategy
of
the
federal
government
and,
of
course,
as
yet,
we
really
don't
know
what
the
intentions
of
the
provincial
government
are
with
respect
to
the
entire
area
of
housing.
B
But
if
you
ask
me,
would
I
have
any
problem
whatsoever
with
the
notion
of
including
those
two
governments
to
me
not
so
much
so
they
can
sort
of
listening
in
with
interest,
but
rather
we
can
perhaps
hold
them
to
account
to
some
extent
in
terms
of
trying
to
induce
their
participation
on
a
broad
and
consistent
way.
I
would
say,
I'd
be
totally
happy
to
try
and
help
make
that
happen.
In
fact,.
C
The
the
vancouver,
affordable
housing
agency
specifically
builds
housing
that
is
not
met
by
the
private
market
sector
and
they
do
receive
a
support
from
the
british
columbia
government
as
well
as
the
federal
government.
All
three
orders
of
government
are
at
the
table:
unlocking
city-owned
lands
and
the
result
is
100%,
rentals,
100%,
affordable
and
100%
nonprofit
owned
and
operated.
How
do
we
by
way
of
your
emotion
and
if
we
invite
the
provincial
and
federal
government
to
the
table
which
we
haven't
specified
yet
in
this
report?
How
do
we
ensure
that
type
of
outcome
well.
B
B
That
it
may
be
the
case
that
we're
talking
about
here
is
apples
and
oranges,
in
the
sense
that
this
is
a
very
specific
initiative
that
we're
trying
to
make
work
found
it
on
the
contribution.
If
that's
the
right
word
of
public
land
to
get
a
process
going,
that
induces,
then
the
nonprofit
and/or
private
sectors
to
come
in
and
leverage
that
and
leverage
their
own
activities
to
produce
as
much
of
the
kind
of
mixed
housing
that
we
want,
including
a
significant
portion
of
affordable
housing.
B
This
is
a
first
step
and
if
we
want
to
take
a
second
step
that
sits
down
with
those
other
two
governments
and
says
all
right,
we
now
would
like
to
move
to
the
next
stage
that
is
going
to
be
required
for
us
to
even
come
close
to
meeting
the
targets
we've
set,
which
would
consist
say
of
something
that,
with
their
help,
would
be
a
hundred
percent
rental.
And
a
hundred
percent,
affordable
I
am
very
happy
because
I
concurred
in
the
statement
made
by
the
man
who
showed
up
at
the
executive
committee
and
said
he
hopes.
B
C
You,
mr.
mayor
and
final
question
in
your
meeting
with
the
big
city
mayors
caucus
and
with
the
Prime
Minister
himself
recognizing
that
the
housing
now
initiative
and
plan
was
was
to
be
before
council
the
very
next
day.
What
did
the
Prime
Minister
say
when
you,
when
you
proposed
to
him
that
that
he
and
the
federal
government
come
to
the
table
to
specifically
participate
in
the
funding
and
participation
of
the
delivery
of
the
housing?
Now
report.
B
So
I
can
say
that
the
response
was
generally
favourable,
but
did
I
get
somebody
saying
you
know
we're
there
and
signed
up
to
be
part
of
this.
No
I
did,
but
I
was
certainly
they
were.
They
were
very
much
aware
of
the
fact.
I
was
making
the
case
for
a
number
of
the
things
we'll
discuss
in
this
meeting,
including
the
supportive
housing
goals,
and
also
some
of
these
initiatives
were
undertaking
and
I've
repeated
my
desire
to
see
them.
B
Frankly,
one
of
my
happiest
moments
would
be
if
they
came
forward
with
ten
parcels
of
land
of
their
own,
because
they've
done
the
inventory
and
they
did
it
at
my
request.
They've
done
it
across
the
country
and
I
think
would
be
great
if
they
came
forward
with
ten
parcels
and
we
could
run
a
similar
process,
maybe
with
the
kind
of
objective
you
talked
about
earlier.
B
That
said,
those
would
be
a
set-aside
deliberately
from
the
beginning,
with
their
land
and
financial
participation
to
produce
all
rental
and
all
affordable,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
possible,
but
we're
still
waiting
for
them
to
offer
some
land,
but
I
think
the
discussions
were
generally
positive.
You
know
you
have
to
keep
at
these
things.
Rarely
do
you
go
in
a
room
and
say:
are
you
on
and
they
say?
Yes,
you
know:
where
do
we
send
the
cheque?
Thank.
N
E
E
It
is
critical
that
collectively,
as
a
city,
we
roll
up
your
sleeves
and
do
absolutely
everything
in
our
power
to
build
a
more
affordable
City.
So
how
do
we
do
that?
How
do
we
address
chronic
homelessness?
At
the
same
time,
it
starts
with
the
housing
ladder
and
the
spectrum
of
housing
needs
for
people
who
are
lucky
enough
to
be
middle-class.
The
rental
vacancy
rate
is
a
paltry
1.1
percent
and
we
need
increased
property,
purpose-built
rental
and
we
need
increased,
purpose-built
rental
that
has
a
security
of
tenure
and
rent
control.
E
It
means
for
the
hundred
and
eighty-one
thousand
people
who
are
looking
for
permanent,
affordable
housing.
It
means
that
we
need
housing
for
them
for
the
18,000
people
who
need
supportive
and
transitional
housing.
It
means
we
need
housing
for
them
and
for
the
9,000
people,
who
are
far
too
often
living
rough
on
our
streets
or
couchsurfing
for
the
9,000
homeless
people.
We
need
housing
for
that,
so
city-owned,
plant
and
housing
now
and
where
we
are
today.
E
Our
land
is,
in
this
context,
our
most
valuable
asset,
to
bring
to
the
discussion
in
how
we
create
that
more
affordable,
City
and
I
will
commend
and
thank
our
staff
for
all
the
work
they've
put
into
this
and
I
will
commend
and
thank
councilor
and
deputy
mayor
by
Lao
and
the
mayor
for
making
this.
The
first
key
item
that
we're
dealing
with
in
this
term.
E
I
want
to
thank
the
productive,
but
I
will
say-
and
this
is
the
spirit
of
my
motion-
that
I
think
housing
now
is
a
start,
but
it
needs
to
go
further
and
towards
that.
The
motion
in
front
of
you,
which
I
hope
they
outstanding
two
items
on
there
with
respect
to
a
firm
target
with
respect
to
supportive
housing
and
a
firm
target
with
respect
to
coops
and
nonprofits
owning
part
of
the
housing
here.
E
I
hope
the
mayor
will
see
those
as
friendly,
because
there
are
areas
in
the
report
in
front
of
us
that
I
think
can
and
should
be
improved
and
that
we
together
should
come
together
to
do
so
for
supportive
housing.
We
need
in
this
dangerous
winter.
We
are
talking
for
good
reasons
about
the
need
to
provide
shelter
to
those
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
E
But
if
we
are
providing
shelter
but
not
a
pathway
out
of
shelter,
then
we
are
not
ending
homelessness
and
so
to
ensure
that
we
have
supportive
housing
built
into
this
model
is
key
to
ensure
that
for
the
nonprofit
and
co-op
sector,
that
they're
not
just
partners,
but
that
they
are
owners
and
operators
not
only
strengthens
their
capacity.
It
increases
their
equity
and
capital
to
do
more
to
build
more
housing
with
respect
to
rent
control.
E
E
Yes
and
I
hope
that,
when
it
with
respect
to
housing,
now
that
this
I
believe
is
an
important
and
critical
first
step,
I
hope
that
we
strengthen
it
here
today
and
I
hope
that
next
year,
when
we
do
this
again,
that
we've
built
a
model
that
will
get
us
to
50
percent,
affordable
or
70
percent,
affordable,
but
I
hope
this
is
the
start
and
let's
make
it
the
calling
card
for
all
of
us
in
this
term
of
counsel.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
E
With
respect
to
this
is
specifically
item
number
one
in
my
motion
that
we
target
for
sets
for
the
11
sites
to
be
owned
and
operated.
I
have
worked
and
consulted
closely
with
Jean
Godden
and
our
city
staff
and
I
know.
I've
had
conversations
with
you
as
well,
and
this
is
a
target
that
we
believe
is
the
minimum
that
can
be
achieved,
but
it
is
a
target
that
can
be
achieved
in
the
financial
model
here
and
I
think
we
should
make
that
happen.
Thank.
I
You
and
it
that
means
that
as
you're
saying
it's,
the
minimum
there's
even
for
the
bigger
sites
by
conversations
with
the
nonprofit,
which
we
know
that
there's
already
starting
to
have
conversations
to
happen
between
affordable
homeownership
agencies
and
nonprofit
and
coops
and
the
private
sector,
so
we're
still
open
for
the
other
sites
to
continue
to
have
the
participation
of
the
nonprofit.
This
is
the
minimum
and
it
is
achievable,
correct.
I
would.
E
Say
that
is
correct
and
I
would
expose
my
own
bias
here,
which
is
to
say
that
I
would
like
to
get
to
a
position
where
every
single
site,
every
single,
affordable
or
supportive
housing
unit
is
owned
and
operated,
if
not
by
the
city,
by
the
coop
and
nonprofit
sector.
That
is
where
I
want
to
get
to
and
go,
and
the
intention
of
this
motion
here
is
to
set
a
target
of
one
third
of
the
month,
which
staff
have
indicated
they
know
is
possible,
but
not
to
exclude
the
possibility
of
more
coming
on
board.
E
M
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
have
three
motions.
First,
the
City
Council
requests
the
executive
director
Housing
Secretariat
in
consultation
with
the
director
of
affordable
housing
office,
direct
real
estate
services
and
create
yo
to
ensure
that
150
percent
of
the
total
unit
residential
units
in
the
eleven
housing
now
sites
meet
the
criteria
of
affordability,
is
defined
in
the
city's
official
plan
and
in
the
housing
now
report
and
2
of
that
50%
20%
be
deeply
affordable
with
rent
set
had
40%
of
the
average
market
rate,
as
defined
in
the
report.
M
Quite
simply,
I
think
that
we're
missing
an
opportunity
here,
I
agree
with
the
intent
and
I
think
that
that
that
the
mayor
and
councillor
by
Lao
have
the
best
of
intentions
to
see
us
grow
our
portfolio
of
our
affordable
housing
in
the
city,
but
I
believe
I
personally
believe
that
we
can
do
better.
We
need
to
be
bold.
M
The
City
of
Toronto
residents
deserve
that
they're
demanding
that
of
us,
those
struggling
to
find
housing,
those
struggling
to
pay
for
the
housing
that
they're
in
those
under
under
housed
trying
to
find
appropriate
sized
housing
for
their
families
by
relying
too
heavily
on
profit-driven
private
sector.
We
are
abdicating
our
responsibility
of
a
government
to
actually
take
action
and
I.
Think
there's
three
things
I
wanted
to
highlight
in
this
report.
One
is
on
the
use
of
the
CMHC
averages
to
drive
this
process.
M
The
second
is
on,
as
we
heard
today,
and
the
answer
are
changes
to
our
definition
of
refundable
debt
and
that
can
work
in
our
favor
for
the
the
affordable
housing
sector
and
then,
finally,
on
the
number
of
affordable
housing
units
and
the
depth
of
affordability
on
the
average
rents.
You
see
I
I've
always
had
difficulty
with
this
definition
of
affordable
housing
as
I.
M
Think
all
of
you
have
that
using
the
average
rent
of
the
City
of
Toronto
as
your
definition
for
affordable
is,
is
really
a
stretch
right,
like
most
people
know,
if
you're,
if
you're
the
average,
if
you're
using
the
average,
then
it's
probably
not
terribly
affordable,
but
in
this
particular
report
we're
asking
for
80%
of
the
CMHC
citywide
average.
So
I
looked
up
that
average
from
the
CMHC
website
and
for
1-bedroom
it's
twelve
seventy
and
for
a
two-bedroom,
it's
fourteen.
M
Ninety
four
and
then
I
looked
up
each
individual
site
and
their
neighborhood
right
and
one
of
them.
One
of
them
jumps
right
out
at
me,
and
this
is
the
blur
Islington
site.
If
my
geography
of
that
corner
is
correct
in
the
neighborhood,
that's
I
that
it's
identified
on
the
CMHC
site,
a
two-bedroom
average,
is
actually
below
the
city's
eighty
percent
average.
It's
78
percent
of
the
city's
average
and
a
one-bedroom
is
83
percent.
The
705
worden
site
is
already
in
the
eighty
percent
percent
band
of
the
city
average.
M
So
what
are
we
actually
asking
of
developers
in
this
to
deliver
us,
the
average
rent
of
those
communities
already
or
or
or
within
percentage
points
of
it,
and
not
even
for
all
the
units
for
30
percent
of
the
units?
So
really
we're
not
asking
very
much
in
some
of
these
cases.
There
are
three
of
the
sites
that
are
slightly
over
the
CMHC
average,
but
that's
only
three
of
the
11
and
some
are
actually
below
the
80%
already
one
in
particular,
but
there's
a
whole
band
that
are
in
that
80
to
90
percent.
M
So
really,
are
we
asking
that
much?
Are
we
really
putting
our
properties
to
the
test
to
try
to
deliver
for
toronto
residents?
And
I
don't
think
so
and
and
and
I
think,
we've
we've
ignored
a
tool
and
that's
because
I
think
we've
been
afraid
to
get
involved
in
the
business
of
building
affordable
housing,
the
actual
business
of
building
it.
We
have
over
the
last
couple
years.
M
The
are
refundable
debt
as
one
that
when
we
can
guarantee
an
income
source,
what
better
than
mixed
income
housing
to
guarantee
that
source
that
takes
profit
out
of
the
picture
and
gives
us
the
ownership
model.
It
also
does
one
thing-
and
this
is
probably
the
most
important
part-
it
doesn't
compete
with
other
city
priorities.
It
doesn't
compete
with
the
mayor's
transit
priorities.
It
doesn't
compete
with
any
other
city
capital
priorities
because
it
doesn't
count
towards
our
debt
ceiling.
M
Let
me
say
that
again,
it
doesn't
count
towards
our
debt
ceiling
means
we
can
free
up
as
much
debt
as
we
want.
If
it's
refundable
debt,
because
we
know
it's
getting
paid
back
and
we
can
build
the
housing
ourselves,
we
take
profit
out
of
the
picture
and
we
can
put
all
of
that
money,
not
maybe
not
all
the
housing,
because
we
want
to
build
a
mixed
income
community.
We
we
want
to
make
it
sustainable,
but
we
can
build.
We
can
put
that
profit
back
into
affordable
housing,
rather
than
just
give
it
in
a
way.