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City Council, meeting 40, May 22, 2018 - Special Meeting - Part 2 of 2
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A
A
B
Well,
thank
you
speaker
and
I'll
speak
very
briefly,
and
I'm
actually
gonna
speak
not
around
who
I
will
be
voting
for,
but
rather
just
the
process.
I'll
begin,
certainly
by
thanking
all
the
candidates
who
came
here
today,
all
18
of
them.
It's
never
easy
to
put
your
name
forward
and
to
stand
in
front
of
this
chamber
and
I
want
to
thank
them
and
encourage
many
of
them
to
put
your
names
forward
in
elections
to
come,
be
at
this
fall
or
later
I'll.
B
Just
say
that
on
the
process
side
that
I
find
the
appointment
process
in
my
four
years,
I've
been
here
at
City,
Hall
very
hard.
In
fact,
I
have
found
every
time
we
have
at
the
appointment
process
to
be
divisive
and
unfortunately,
I
find
often
the
aftertaste
has
a
level
of
toxicity
at
within
this
chamber.
That
I,
don't
find
is
helpful
for
our
functioning
together
and
having
been
through
this
now
three
times
and
seen
it
play
out
going
forward.
B
Should
we
have
more
vacancies
in
the
next
term
if
I'm
lucky
enough
to
come
back,
I
will
always
be
voting
for
by-elections.
I
have
come
to
believe
through
my
three
and
a
half
to
four
years
here
that
it
should
be
the
electorate,
not
us,
making
these
decisions
I
think
it's
healthier
for
the
the
incumbent
or
the
new
incumbent
when
they
come
in
to
have
that
vote
of
confidence
and
I
also
think
it's
it's
better
for
our
own
working
relationship
in
this
chamber
to
not
have
the
backroom
dealings,
which
comes
with
an
appointment
and
I.
B
Don't
say
that
casting
aspersions
on
anybody
for
all
of
us,
it's
healthier.
If
the
timing
is
too
tight
to
have
a
by-election
as
sometimes
it
may
be,
as
it
is
now
then
I
firmly
above
the
view
that
the
seat
should
be
left
vacant
with
the
staff
and
place
to
be
managed
by
the
clerk's
office.
I
think
that
too
is
a
healthier
way
for
us
to
manage
going
forward
and
so
I
will
be
casting
a
ballot
and
and
I'm
gonna
cast
it
I'm
gonna
cast
it
privately
I'm.
B
Not
even
gonna
use
my
speech
to
speak
to
it
rather
I'm.
Simply
gonna
say
that
in
the
new
term,
if
I'm
lucky
enough
to
be
back
here,
I
will
not
support
an
appointment
ever
again.
I
will
only
support
by-elections
and
I
would
encourage
us
if
we
are
stuck
with
the
Municipal
Act
as
its
laid
out
where
there
is
the
60-day
window
where
we
can
to
where
we
must
appoint
them.
We
change
that
so
that
we
can
leave
it
vacant
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
B
C
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
I
am
a
little
discomforted
by
this
up.
The
process
here
as
well.
I
must
say,
and
you
know
I
start
to
write
down
the
the
similar
kind
of
post
or
towards
the
end
of
the
term
switches
that
we
made
for
one
reason
or
another
and
I've
noted
about
seven
of
them,
there
might
be
I
might
have
missed
a
one
or
two.
When
Adam
von
ran
for
federal
office,
he
was
replaced
by
Sita
Ram
clown
Singh.
C
Before
this
this
term,
though,
like
I,
think
if
you,
if
you
kind
of
mark
like
what's
the
tradition
here
like
what?
What
kind
of
pattern
are
we
setting
and
I
think
the
tradition
is
basically
kind
of
like
for
like?
So
you
will
note
that
most
of
the
folks
who
kind
bleed
red
were
replaced
by
a
person
who
bled
red
and
orange
and
blue,
and
that
basically
was
the
dot,
is
the
dominant
pattern.
C
So
who
decides
whether,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
of
course,
it's
counsel
but
I
think
the
predominant
influence
of
the
local
counselor,
whose
seat
is
being
left
or
as
interpreted
by
the
local
counselor
as
to
who
would
best
fulfill
the
tradition
of
the
person
who
got
elected
into
office?
I
think
they
had
the
strongest
voice,
the
strongest
voice
in
determining
who
that
person
would
be
and
I
think
we
have
a
letter
here
on
file
with
for
a
particular
candidate
I
think
you
know
we.
C
Maybe
I've
missed
one
or
two
here
where
I
went
in
in
a
slightly
different
direction,
but
the
will
of
counsel
overruled
and
they
in
and
good
decisions
were
made
I'm
finding
the
kinds
of
rumors
and
rumors
of
rumors
that
we
are
here
having
here.
It's
it's
just
a
bit
much,
it's
just
a
bit
much
and
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
say
you
know
what
the
local
councillor
got
elected
in
this
case.
C
C
What
I
perceive
to
be
the
tradition
of
this
council,
because
I
think
in
the
time
limited
fashion
in
which
we
work?
They
are
in
a
very
strong,
not
absolute
again,
not
absolute,
but
in
a
very
strong
position
to
say
what
that
Democratic
will,
that
they
embody
in
getting
elected
how
that
will
should
be
manifest
in
the
days
in
the
days
ahead.
Those
are
my
comments
I,
madam
Speaker.
Thank.
D
Just
heard
by
councillor
havoc
is
the
reason
and
the
logic
as
to
why
I'm
not
going
to
do
what
he's
preaching
and
I
think
that,
quite
frankly,
this
has
the
tone
of
the
underlying
comments
that
are
made
outside
of
this
chamber
as
we
lead
up
to
this
and
how
orchestrated
this
has
actually
been
in
the
way
of
a
process
and
I
smell.
It
I'm,
not
sure.
E
D
Same
person
is
saying:
well,
I'm,
not
gonna,
I'm,
not
gonna
run
the
election
I'm
only
gonna
run
part-time
and
it's
only
gonna
be
for
a
few
months
and
and
I
think
she
said,
whoever
wins
wins
basically,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'm,
not
a
fortune-teller,
but
but
if
I
was
in
front
of
a
fortune-teller
right
now.
Here
are
the
questions.
I
would
ask
that
fortune-teller
why
the
pledge?
Why
are
there
so
many
people
up
here
saying
that
they
only
want
to
support
somebody?
It's
only
going
to
be
around
for
a
few
months.
D
Have
there
been
discussions
about
her
coming
back
and
and
why
all
of
a
sudden
to
change
and
who
would
like
to
run
and
who
wouldn't
part-time
or
full-time,
was
their
severance
given
to
the
former
counselor?
And
if,
if
so,
how
much
was
it
and
is
she
willing,
if
she
comes
back
to
give
it
back
to
the
City
Council.
D
If
I
were
in
front
of
a
fortune
teller,
that's
what
I
would
ask,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'd
like
to
know
whether
or
not
that
counselor
intends
to
come
back.
And
madam
Speaker,
you
say
this,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
it's
everybody's
responsibility
to
look
at
what's
going
on
in
this
place
and
what's
going
on
here,
really
does
smell,
I'm,
sorry
and
when
you've
got
when
you've
got
this
thing
happening
behind
the
scenes.
D
Let's,
let's
create
a
pledge,
let's,
let's
make
sure
that
everybody
supports
somebody
who
only
wants
to
be
here
for
three
or
four
months
and
then
as
we
find
out
who
somebody
might
want
to
come
back.
Your
severance.
You
take
once
in
this
particular
case
if
I'm
right
and
something
is
going
on
in
in
Ward
33.
That
has
the
potential
for
somebody
to
come
back
and
lead
up
to
another
severance.
Is
that
right?
Madam
Speaker.
D
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
only
were
allowed
to
ask
one
question
of
each
of
the
deputies
and
I
have
got
a
list.
I'll
tell
you
exactly
who
they
are
our
first
speaker,
our
sixth
speaker,
our
ninth
speaker
and
our
thirteenth
speaker.
Those
are
the
four
that
I'm
contemplating
and
supporting,
and
that
was
based
on
one
question
that
I'd
asked:
what
is
it?
What
really
matters
to
toward
33,
because
that's
really
what
matters
here
is
what
the
local
community
wants.
Not
whether
or
not
not
whether
or
not
you
like
them,
you
don't
like
them.
D
It
that's
you
want
me
to
get
into
the
friendships
that
have
occurred
over
the
last
little
while
and
why
she
she
wants
to
support
this
particular
candidate.
I
can
do
that
or
you
can
rule
me
out
of
order.
I,
don't
care,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
here
to
support
the
local
community,
and
very
few
of
you
asked
that
question
today.
All
you
asked
was:
are
you
willing
to
sign
a
pledge?
D
Because
that's
all
you
really
care
about,
we
shouldn't
have
the
jurisdiction
for
appointments
here.
The
province
needs
to
change
the
law.
So
we
can't
do
this
and
whoever
saying
that
the
clerk
should
have
it
forget
it
give
the
bureaucracy
more
more
more
things
to
do
you
know
what
should
happen.
Is
the
province
should
changed
the
act
so
that
it
goes
from
a
90-day
period,
perhaps
a
six
month
period
or
seven
month,
period
or
eight
month
period,
and
we
should
not
have
the
ability
to
do
a
point,
because
what
happens
here
is
saw.
F
Madam
Speaker,
that
was
an
example
of
why
this
process
is
the
failure,
because,
because
you
know
you
hear
talk
about
being
neutral
for
the
first
four
minutes
and
the
last
minute
is
political
ideology
and
we
are
politicians,
we
will
be
using
our
political
ideology
to
decide
who
we
want
and
that's
why
this
process
is
flawed
and
I
have
never
supported
an
appointment
process
in
the
past.
It's
very
important
for
us.
You
know
we
have
45
people,
44
people
deciding
and
most
likely
those
44
people
do
not
live
in
the
in
the
world.
F
I
I
love
the
idea
that
was
put
forward
by
Brian
and
which
we
have
been
talking
about
earlier.
We
have
to
start
to
find
a
way
to
manage
this
better.
If
it's
nine
months,
we
should
be
able
to
go
into
leaving
it
vacant.
In
fact,
when
I
got
elected
by
by-elections,
councillor
Joe
had
already
taken
a
leave
of
absence
for
for
the
campaign,
and
it
was
almost
like
seven
months
before
I
was
elected.
F
There
was
there
was
nobody
and
the
staff
held
it
and
staff
member
maybe
able
to
continue
the
transition
better
than
appointing
somebody
for
a
very
short
period
of
time.
So
it's
very
important
for
us
to
take
that
suggestion
into
consideration
and
figure
out
a
way
to
make
sure
that
we
go
for
by
election.
If
the
time
is
too
short,
then
it
is,
it
is
left
to
the
left
to
the
staff
and
the
clerk's
office
to
handle,
because
we
cannot
pretend
to
be
here
as
neutral
observers
of
the
of
the
candidates
evaluating
their
credentials.
F
In
fact,
many
people
have
already
indicated
who
they
are
supporting.
Many
people
already
have
figured
out
who
they
would
be
supporting
for,
and
in
fact
this
whole
process
is
optics
and,
and
it's
not
genuine,
in
fact,
you
know
we
will
hear
some
of
the
speakers
say.
You
know
amazing
speeches,
why
don't
you
register
to
run
and
so
on?
I
think
those
comments
are
more
patronizing
and
more
condescending
than
than
in
actual
encouragement,
because
if
you
were
really
true
to
ourselves
through
this
process,
it
would
have
been
much
more
clear
to
people
the
pledge
idea.
F
I
mean
again.
We
don't
want
to,
in
fact
by
this
process,
advantage
somebody
over
the
democratic
process
and
that's
why
many
councillors
asked
for
a
commitment
and
the
commitment
has
not
been
kept
by
people
who
said
that
they
would
keep
those
commitment.
If
that
doubt
is
increasing,
then
we
are
moving
into
asking
for
a
pledge,
any
pledge
and
deep
pledge
and
so
on.
I
think
this
is
not
a
comfortable
direction
for
us.
We
should
find
an
alternative
way
to
make
sure
that
we
pick
I
mean
Sitaram.
F
Sullivan
Singh
was
a
big
example
of
a
care
taking
kind
of
counselor
who
was
there
for
a
short
period
of
time
who
was
committed
to
taking
that
on
for
a
short
period
and
then
right
so
I
am
torn
because
I
was
contemplating
whether
to
be
here
and
participate
in
this
process.
But
again,
as
an
elected
representative
of
this
council,
I
thought
you
know
it
is
important
to
be
part
of
this
process,
because
that's
what
we
have
decided
to
so
I
would
use
diversity
as
a
criteria.
F
We
are
less
diverse
than
much
less
diverse
than
our
city.
We
have
one
racialized
woman
in
our
council.
We
have
very
few
racialized
people
in
this
council.
Two
of
them
are
actually
seeking
provincial
election
from
the
ones
we
have.
So
this
is
an
important
consideration
to
have
not
just
to
take
anybody
who
is
not
killed,
not
talented
but
they're
from
the
pool.
We
know
that
we
there
are
people
who
are
well
talented,
very
skilled
experience
who
can
fit
the
diversity
criteria.
F
As
a
city
on
employment
equity,
so
madam
Speaker
I
think
when
we
come
back
or
there's
one
more
councilors
vacancy
that
needs
to
be
filled,
that's
going
to
be
discussed
again
either
either
either
we
do
this
early
enough
or
come
back
in
next
term
and
figure
out
a
way
to
change
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
so
that
we
can
be
engaging
in
this
in
a
more
meaningful
way.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
You
speaker,
speaker
I'm,
not
as
concerned
or
as
upset
about
this
process
as
apparently
some
others
are
when
you
look
at
the
results.
Frankly,
it
works.
Look
at
the
caliber
of
people
that
we
have
appointed
over
time
and
it's
there
are
there
people
on
council
who
will
be
speaking
before
Council
on
behalf
of
others,
I'm
sure
it.
G
It
puzzles
me
sometimes
speaker
that
we,
we
forget,
we're
politicians,
we
live
in
a
political
world,
we're
not
technocrats
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
give-and-take
in
the
in
the
the
world
in
which
we
live,
that
you
may
not
find
in
other
places,
but
come
on.
This
is
this
is
how
politics
in
a
democratic
society,
functions
and
I'm.
Just
I'm
surprised
that
at
have
so
many
people,
not
understanding
that
basic
character
of
the
the
job
that
we
do
speaker
with
respect
to
the
other
candidates
who
spoke
today,
I.
G
Thank
them
all
for
having
the
courage
to
step
forward
and
I
thought.
Most
of
them
spoke
really
really
well
and,
from
my
perspective,
I
take
into
account
the
the
ideas
or
the
arguments
of
the
departing
councillor.
Why
wouldn't
I
they're
close
to
the
communities
that
they
represent
I
also
listen
very
carefully
to
the
candidates
and
to
the
questions
asked
by
my
colleagues?
G
What
I'm
concerned
about
are
what
my
interest
is
speaker
is
who,
among
the
candidates
best
knows
understands
the
issues
of
that
Ward
and
I
thought
that
there
was
one
person
today
who
demonstrated
that
very
clearly,
very
specifically
in
her
answers
to
the
questions
that
were
asked
of
her.
So
speaker,
I
hope
that
we
continue
with
the
appointment
process
just
the
way.
It
is
it's
very
practical
and
in
the
end,
it
has
produced
excellent
results.
H
That
is
important
to
me
and
what
I
heard
today
from
Divya
Nayak
is
a
candidate
who
best
met
all
of
those
criteria.
For
me,
I
did
not
know
her.
I
did
not
speak
with
her.
I
did
not
even
speak
with
councillor
Carroll
about
her
I
have
read
all
of
the
material
here
and
I
heard
her
today,
and
what
I
saw
was
someone
who
really
understood
the
issues
in
Ward
33.
She
has
been
actively
engaged
in
all
the
major
initiatives
in
the
ward.
There
are
many
letters
of
endorsement.
H
She
has
been
active
in
community
organizations
as
a
volunteer.
She's
been
active
in
her
work
life
as
a
leader
in
a
business
and
has
a
experience
working
the
business
sector
she's
been
involved
in
cleanup
events,
the
participatory
budget
process.
She
clearly
understands
planning
and
what
they
keep
planning
issues
are
in
Ward
33.
She
has
strong
communication
skills
than
boys.
She
held
her
ground
here
in
this
chamber
and
I
think
that's
important
as
well,
so
she's
self-assured
I
think
well
qualified
a
racialized
woman
very
experienced
and
knows
award
well,
and
that
is
exactly
what
we
need.
I
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
It's
surprisingly
how,
when
one
speaks,
the
other
side
of
my
ear
starts
heckling,
Thank,
You,
constable
perks,
one
thing
that
we've
seen
here
today.
We
had
a
few
individuals
to
step
forward
and
put
their
name
forward,
and
for
that
you
were
to
be
congratulated.
However,
I
think
there's
about
a
couple
of
horses
in
the
race
and
then
we
were
getting
down
to
brass
tacks.
Three
or
four
one
individual
was
asked
some
hard
questions
and
the
answers
were
not
genuine.
I
I
Does
it
matter
that
we
only
have
another
three
council
meetings
and
we
need
somebody
that
can
hit
the
ground
running
and
it's
experienced
there's
not
a
lot
of
people
that
have
from
the
18.
That
are
the
names
that
are
here
that
are
experienced
now.
A
lot
of
people
are
having
a
political
experience,
one
or
two,
and
we
heard
from
South
Riverdale
everybody
that
was
running.
Will
you
sign
the
pledge?
Will
you
sign
the
pledge
you
can
sign
all
the
pledges
you
want?
You
can't
be
held
responsible
because
you
sign
the
pledge.
I
We
had
people
in
this
room
that
ran
and
right
after
they
finished
sorry,
they
became
here
they
were
appointed
and
next
they
went
and
they
ran
right
after
so
saying
to
somebody.
Well,
would
you
run
a
game
and
we
don't
want
to
hold
them?
We
want
to
hold
them
responsible.
I'll.
Tell
you
one
thing:
unless
I
asked
Lucy
Lucy
will
be
running
game
and
she
said
no,
but
I'll
tell
you
one
thing:
there
is
a
person
in
this
chamber
that
does
Yale
mints
work
and
represents
her
constituents
more
than
anything
else
is
Lucy
Tracy.
I
The
important
thing
that
we
must
do
is
say:
okay,
how
many
months
do
we
have
before
the
next
general
election
federally
and
provincially
it's
in
within
six
months
of
somebody
resigning
that
there
is
a
by-election?
If
we
want
to
be
honest
with
ourselves,
then
allow
a
by-election
to
happen.
Well
we're
the
within
six
months,
but
we
don't
have
that
six
month
window
of
opportunity,
we're
going
to
bring
somebody
in
here
and
we're
gonna
say
to
him
or
her.
You
got
three
months
but
the
time
to
learn
where
the
washroom
is
those
three
months
are
gone.
I
This
is
not
an
easy
floor
to
navigate.
I
came
from
another
place
and
it
took
me
a
couple
of
years
to
learn
how
to
navigate
here
and
the
way
that
we
navigate
here
is
different
from
other
places.
Other
municipal
councils,
they
don't
navigate
the
same
way
and
for
us
to
sit
there
and
say
you
know,
would
you
sign
this
pledge?
I
Justice
I've,
listened
to
some
of
the
individuals
and
we
even
have
a
former
colleague
that
wrote
a
letter
and
says
I
like
for
you
to
support
this
individual.
Well.
The
former
colleague
was
here
instead
beside
her
for
three
and
a
half
years,
and
my
question
here
was:
what
happens
if
you
lose,
will
you
come
back
well,
I,
don't
either
what
happens?
If
you
lose,
will
you
run
to
come
back?
I
There
was
no
denial
that
I'm
gonna
run
to
come
back.
There
was
no
something
that
says
to
me:
if
I
lose
I'll,
look
after
my
grandkids,
so
I'll
say
to
you
that,
although
I
think
divine
iuck
is
a
individual,
I
think
she's
a
placeholder,
definitely
a
placeholder
until
our
former
colleague.
If
she
loses
freedom
of
speech,
madam
Canadian,
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms.
If
you
want
me
to
I'll
read
to
which
a
this
master
Davis,
please
please
thank
you.
A
I
E
I'd
like
to
thank
all
of
the
18
people
that
put
their
names
on
the
ballot
and
all
of
those
who
came
today
to
have
their
5
minutes
and
answer
questions
and
who
cares
so
much
for
the
city
and
who
cares
so
much
for
their
community
and
that's
a
big
thank
you,
because
it's
stressful
to
do
that
and
come
here
to
speak.
It's
like
an
all
candidates
meeting,
but
we're
the
only
voters
and
I
just
want
to
say
about
by-elections
and
appointments.
E
I
do
believe
strongly
in
by-elections,
but
we're
in
a
situation
where
we
have
an
appointment.
I
think
if
somebody
runs
in
a
by-election
and
is
elected,
then
obviously
that's
fine
for
them
to
run
in
the
next
election.
If
someone
is
appointed,
I
have
very
strong
feelings
about
that
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
councillor
Kerry
honest,
if
you
think
that
that
was
untoward
and
asking
people.
But
for
me
to
give
my
vote
I
need
to
know
that
somebody
is
honoring.
E
The
fact
they're
here
as
a
caretaker
they're,
not
using
this
as
a
way
to
step
up
and
run
and
have
an
advantage.
They
have
an
office
budget.
They
have
many
different
things:
they
can
go,
call
themselves
councillor
and
their
election
material
and
that's
why
I
think
it
was
so
if
everyone
remembers
councillor
lead
on
when
he
came
and
he
pledged
not
to
run
many
people
said
Peter
you're,
so
good.
You
should
run.
E
So
if
you
think
I'm
a
little
focused
on
that,
it's
because
I
do
want
to
know,
and
some
people
said
yes,
my
name
is
on
the
ballot
already
I've
already
put
my
name
in
or
yes,
I'm
planning
to
run
so
on.
My
list
I
had
to
remove
those
people,
because
we
have
to
make
sure
it's
fair,
fair
for
the
electorate,
fair
for
everybody
who
puts
their
name
to
run
for
a
council
position
that
there
isn't
somebody
there
who,
by
nature
of
40.
E
However,
many
there
are
going
to
be
here
today,
40
some
people
that
they
now
are
a
councillor
and
then
they're
running
as
a
councillor.
I
think
that
every
one
of
us
that
goes
into
Elections
knows
how
hard
they
are
knows.
The
amount
of
money
you
have
to
raise.
The
number
of
people
you
have
to
speak
to
the
pressures
of
an
election
are
very
great,
no
matter
whether
you've
been
in
many
of
them.
Like
my
friend,
councillor,
Kelly
or
you've.
Just
had
your
first
one
like
councillor
Shan,
they
are
pressure
cookers.
E
You
have
to
put
yourself
out
to
the
public
and
therefore
I
think
the
playing
field
has
to
be
fair,
has
to
be
level
and
the
way
to
do
that
is
make
sure
that
people
are
committing,
and
it's
not
legal,
it's
not
binding,
but
it
is
moral.
It
is
a
moral
commitment
and
counsellors
are
only
as
good
as
their
word.
We
know
that
in
our
communities
we
know
that
in
our
communities
when
we
say
something
it
must
be
taken
seriously.
So
I
thought
I
should
really
explain
myself.
E
Why
I
feel
so
strongly
about
this
fairness
principle
and
getting
a
leg
up
for
an
election?
I
simply
don't
think
that's
fair.
So
thank
you
to
everybody
who
answered
that.
So
honestly,
I
really
appreciate
it.
Whether
you're
already
running-
and
you
know,
I
can't
support
you
or
whether
you
have
told
us
exactly
what
you're
planning
to
do.
J
Thank
You,
speaker,
speaker,
I'm,
a
fan
of
election
I
think
I've
always
been
a
fan
of
elections.
Having
said
that,
I
just
want
to
follow
that
up
by
saying
to
the
folks
that
applied
for
this
position
today,
I
I'm,
sorry
and
sad
for
them,
because
they
are
going
to
witness
for
themselves
in
a
few
short
minutes,
why
it
is
that
I'm,
sorry
and
sad
for
them
and
why
most
of
them
wasted
their
time
in
in
in
applying
through
this
process.
J
J
You
can
go
to
a
by-election
each
and
every
time
except
I
understand
now.
The
period
is
very,
very
short:
it's
a
it's
a
span
of
a
few
months.
If
yeah
you're
saying
it
would
be
dumb
for
us
to
go
to
a
by-election.
So
therefore,
we
should
be
asking
the
provincial
government
to
ask
to
change
the
act
for
us
and
give
us
a
longer
period
much
like
their
period,
so
that
then
we
can
say
okay
within
six
months.
You
know
if
it's
it's
a
short
period
or
need
a
by-election.
J
Let
that
staff
in
the
office
do
the
take
caretaker
work
and
answer
the
phone
calls
and
fix
the
potholes,
and
then
you
have
a
general
election.
That's
what
we
should
be
doing.
Nobody
else
nobody's
jumping
up
and
down
saying
here's
the
motion
for
us
to
do
that,
but
you
should
jump
up
and
down
and
move
that
motion
and
we
should
be
asking
the
provincial
government
and
on
the
notion
of
a
promise.
So
we
make
a
choice.
J
We
say
we
choose
to
appoint
someone
here,
because
the
Act
allows
us
to
that
choice.
It's
a
conscious
choice
and
most
of
the
time
does,
choice
is
made
based
on
political
reasons,
as
counsel
from
a
milady
was
trying
to
say.
Is
it's
political
there's
a
right,
there's
left
I,
don't
want
another
socialist,
the
other
guys
say:
oh
I,
don't
want
another
conservative.
Okay!
J
We
get
that
this
councillor
Kelly
says
we're
political.
The
process
works,
I,
don't
know
if
the
process
worked,
I'm,
not
sure,
based
on
a
five
minute
interview
that
that
we
make
the
choice
that
the
people
of
Ward,
34
or
fifty-five
or
sixty
four
or
eight
or
nine
or
whatever
Ward
would
have
made
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know,
I
I,
don't
know
if
we
make
the
right
choice
or
not
the
right
choice,
so
our
choice
is
purely
and
totally
political,
but
I
take
offense
to
this.
J
When
we
say
to
people
we
put
counselor,
throw
easy
and
in
counselor
yeah,
okay,
yes,
Hart
Jim
hug,
yes
in
in
a
really
really
tough
spot,
we
say
to
them:
you
want
the
best
person
right,
ideally
I'd
like
to
have
the
strongest
person.
The
strongest
candidate
who
comes
forward
represent
that
Ward,
because
we
have
made
that
choice
to
go
to
an
appointment.
We
we
chose
not
to
go
to
an
election.
J
J
Why
do
I
take
offense
to
that
I
enjoy
the
privilege
of
incumbency.
I
do
I
earned
it
as
many
of
you
have
earned
it
like
everybody
else
who
works
in
every
other
job
they
gain
experience.
They
do
a
good
job.
They've
learned
that
that
incumbency
and
their
assessed
based
on
that
incumbency
to
continue
to
do
their
work.
So
we
say
to
somebody
will
give
you
the
job,
but
will
you
promise
or
pledge
or
whatever
that
you
won't
run
again?
We
want
to
take
away
your
right.
We
want
to
diminish
you
I,
enjoy
incumbency,
I!
J
K
Speaking
to
the
issue,
that's
in
front
of
us,
the
selection
of
a
candidate
to
replace
my
former
partner
of
15
years,
councillor
Carroll,
a
very
distinguished
member
of
Council.
She
has,
in
my
view,
been
someone
that
we
have
paid
a
lot
of
attention
to
her
voice
has
been
heard
loud
and
clear
in
this
council
and
beyond.
She
is
someone
that
I
think
that
we
can
all
say
had
a
lot
of
integrity
here.
She
has
done
a
lot
in
terms
of
her
experience
and
budget
and
other
things
here.
K
She
has
actually
offer
some
information
to
us
as
to
who
she
feels
should
be
her
replacement.
I
first,
firstly
want
to
thank
all
of
the
18
members
of
the
community
and
the
citizens
of
Toronto,
who
stepped
up
to
offer
themselves
as
a
replacement
to
councillor
Carroll
I
will
be
voting
for
Divya
and
aya.
I
actually
know
her
I
have
over
a
number
of
years,
seeing
her
in
the
community
and
felt
that
in
fact,
she
would
be
a
great
member
of
council
whether
or
not
she
was
running
or
whether
or
not
she
was
is
appointed.
K
She
happens
to
be
in
this
particular
case.
Amongst
the
18
members
who
have
offered
themselves
now,
I
look
at
her,
although
I've
known
her
I,
don't
know
her
very
well,
but
I've
seen
her
at
variant
events
and
so
on,
but
I've
looked
at
her.
The
way
she
conducted
herself
here
today
with
a
tremendous
amount
of
poise,
calm,
she's
offered
to
us
a
sense
of
understanding
of
her
community
she's
offered
to
us.
In
my
view,
a
sense
of
experience,
she's
offered
to
us
a
sense
of
engagement
in
the
community.
She
has
skills.
K
She
is
someone
from
the
diverse
community
in
this
city
that
we
want
to
encourage
to
be
members
of
council
and
I.
Don't
focus
her
diversity
with
respect
to
her
skin
color
I
focus
her
this
diversity,
in
addition
to
her
diversity
of
thoughts
and
the
ability
of
her
diverse
experience
and
I
asked
myself.
Would
this
be
a
benefit
to
this
council
and
the
answer
that
I've
come
up
with
this?
K
Yes,
there
are
others
as
well
that
we
saw
here
today,
madam
Speaker,
but
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
one
person
that
stood
out
for
me,
the
most
was
mrs.
nya.
In
fact,
it
was
quite
similar
when
councillor
trilogy
came
here
and
it's
in
the
similar
position.
What
stood
out
for
me
at
that
point
was
someone
with
integrity,
experienced
a
sense
of
understanding
of
the
community
and
a
sense
of
passion
and
I
have
to
say:
I
will
use
her
as
a
model
with
respect
to
our
ability
to
make
good
decisions.
K
Yes,
there
are
other
candidates
as
well
that
I
thought
if
miss
nya
was
not
here,
I
would
have
been
selecting,
perhaps
number
one
and
perhaps
I
would
have
given
another
opportunity
to
a
couple
of
others
and
so
on,
but
she
is
here
and
she
is
the
type
of
candidate
she's,
the
type
of
person
that
we
need
on
this
floor,
of
counsel,
to
help
us
to
make
decisions.
That's
reflective
of
the
the
point
five
percent
diversity
that
exists
in
in
this
city
speaker.
So,
for
those
reasons,
I
will
be
supporting
her
for
the
position.
Thank
you.
K
A
L
Shelley
Carol
I
believe
will
go
down
in
the
history
books
as
one
of
the
the
great
really
the
giants
of
city
council,
one
of
the
great
city
councilors
in
our
history.
She
performed
in
a
way
that
was
always
deeply
thoughtful,
with
integrity
focused
on
her
community
with
with
resolute
confidence
and
dedication.
But
it
was
always
the
kind
of
person
when
we
would
debate
big
policy
matters.
L
Who
was
always
a
problem,
solver
I
think
all
of
us
will
recall
at
least
one
time,
if
not
many,
where
there
was
a
big
debate,
a
big,
controversial
discussion
and
council,
no
matter
what
it
could
be.
Shelley
was
always
the
person
who
would
try
to
sit
down
and
have
conversations
with
different
groups
and
different
divided
groups
and
try
to
find
that
sweet
spot
that
place
that
people
could
come
together
very
much
like
help
hammock
on
OA.
L
That
I
had
an
opportunity
a
moment
in
my
life
to
be
able
to
work
with
her
I
looked
up
to
her
for
many
years
before
when
she
was
accounts
there
and
before
that
on
the
Toronto
District
School
Board.
As
first
how
I'm
going
to
vote
I
was
not
called
by
anyone
to
vote
for
anyone.
I
sought
out
cast
Carroll's
opinion,
I
texted,
her
and
I
asked
her,
and
then
I
saw
her
subsequent
to
that.
I
asked
her.
L
Who
would
you
support
and-
and
she
told
me
about
Divya,
Naik
and
I-
had
an
opportunity
to
briefly
meet
you.
The
reason
that
I
was
interested
in
in
counselor
Carroll's
opinion
is
because
you
know
I
was
just
at
a
fireworks
event.
Last
night
in
my
community
and
I
saw
dozens
and
dozens
of
people
from
our
neighborhoods
in
Midtown
Toronto
who
I
love
and
I've
got
relationships
with
that
I've
known
for
many
years
about
decades
and
I
know
that
each
of
you
can
tell
those
same
stories.
L
Many
of
you
feel
the
same
way
with
yours
and
that's
what
Shelley
created
over
many
many
years
of
working
with
her
word,
33
community
and
I,
can't
think
of
anyone
in
a
better
position
to
be
able
to
recommend
somebody
who
would
be
able
to
see
through
to
fruition
some
of
the
work
that
they
have
on
their
plate
today
be
able
to
conclude
in
a
delicate,
delicate,
difficult
but
but
important
way.
Some
of
the
more
you
know
challenging
issues
some
of
the
development
projects
that
we
heard
about
today.
L
Then
then
Shelley
Carroll,
she
she
knows
the
fabric
of
the
community.
She
knows
the
player,
she
knows
the
people
and
and
no
one
would
want
to
leave
that
place
better
than
they
found
it
more
than
Shelley
Carroll
I'm,
not
an
expert
in
Ward
333,
nor
any
of
you
but
Shelley
Carroll
is.
She
really
is,
and
you
know
the
interesting
thing
about
Divya
Nayak
is
she
actually
began
her
relationship
with
Shelley
Carroll
as
her
opponent,
she
ran
against
her
in
the
last
election.
L
Divya
I
I've
learned
today
has
very
different
opinions
about
transit,
some
of
the
transit
projects,
then
than
I
do,
and
you
know
there
was
a
moment
where
I
thought.
How
can
I
even
rationalize,
supporting
her,
even
though
I
I
said
I
would
based
on
Shelley's
recommendation.
How
can
I
do
that
and
then
I
hold
on
Glenn?
Well,
we'll
do
this
later,
but
this
this
is
about
Divya.
M
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I'll
be
actually
very
brief.
I'm
I'm,
actually
not
looking
for
a
candidate
to
that
someone
councillor
Carroll
is
endorsed
not
because
it's
councillor
Carroll,
but
because
I
actually
feel
that
she's
moved
on
and
that's
fine,
but
it's
no
longer
her
decision,
I
think
it's
counsels
decision,
and
so
that's.
What's
what's
really
important
to
me
and
I
know
there
we
can.
We
can
wax
eloquent
if
you
will
about
legacy
and
everything
else
of
fulfilling
that
legacy,
but
I
also
recognize
as
a
six-month
appointment.
M
N
E
O
The
next
ballot
will
exclude
the
nominees
with
the
fewest
votes
and
any
nominees
with
no
votes
balloting
will
continue
in
this
way
until
the
candidate
receiving
the
most
votes
also
receives
the
majority
of
votes.
If
only
two
nominees
remain
in
the
votes
for
the
two
remaining
nominees
are
tied,
I
will
select
the
appointee
by
the
following
method.
The
names
of
each
of
the
two
remaining
nominees
will
be
placed
on
two
sheets
of
paper
of
equal
size.
O
We
are
about
to
distribute
the
ballots
for
the
appointment,
the
names
of
all
candidates,
who
have
consented
to
accept
the
office
of
ward
33,
if
appointed,
will
appear
on
the
ballot
except
those
who
have
officially
withdrawn
whether
they
appeared
at
this
meeting
or
not.
Please
indicate
your
vote
by
placing
an
X
in
the
space
provided
to
the
right
of
the
candidate
of
your
choice.
Please
mark
your
ballot
clearly
and
legibly
if
I
cannot
determine
your
intention
for
any
reason,
including
your
handwriting,
your
ballot
will
be
spoiled
and
not
counted.
O
You
may
only
vote
for
one
candidate.
If
you
vote
for
more
than
one
candidate,
your
ballot
will
be
spoiled
and
your
vote
will
not
be
counted.
All
members
present
must
vote.
If
you
do
not
vote
for
a
candidate,
your
ballot
will
be
spoiled
secret.
Ballots
are
prohibited
by
law.
You
must
print
your
name
and
sign
your
ballot
in
the
space
provided.
This
is
near
the
top
of
the
ballot.
If
you
do
not
print
your
name
and
sign
your
ballot,
your
ballot
will
be
spoiled
and
your
vote
will
not
be
counted.
O
You
must
remain
seated
and
silent
during
the
voting
process
until
all
ballots
have
been
collected,
I
will
not
begin
the
balloting
process
until
all
members
have
taken
their
seats.
When
you
are
finished
voting,
please
fold
your
ballot
in
half
and
place
it
on
the
ledge
in
front
of
your
desk
for
collection.
We
will
collect
the
ballots
when
all
members
have
finished
voting
members.
The
process
is
about
to
begin.
Please
take
your
seats
and
remain
seated
during
the
voting
process.
We
will
now
distribute
the
ballots.
A
O
O
For
councilor
buco
one
vote
for
councillor
hurts
one
vote:
sorry
not
counselor
for
for
Robertson,
one
vote
for
Lister,
seven
votes
for
niak,
18
votes
for
sale,
13
votes
as
follows:
for
boo
cow
councillor,
Carmichael
grab.
First
Joel
hurts
councillor
David
shiner
for
counselor
or
sorry
for
Kenneth
Robertson,
councillor
McMahon
for
Jonathan,
say:
Oh
counts
there
Holland
councillor
Palacio
counts
at
Burnside,
councillor
Pasternak
counselor
Crawford
counts.
There
Campbell
counts
there
Ford
and
counts
there.
Carrie
Janice
for.
N
O
While
we
sort
out
our
paper
I'm
going
to
read
the
results
for
Ken
Lister
counselor,
Palacio,
counselor
Burnside
counts,
their
Pasternak
counts
are
Crawford,
counts,
they're,
Campbell,
let's
ounce
their
Ford
and
counts.
Their
Carrie
Janice
for
Jonathan
sale,
counts,
they're
Holland
counts,
their
Grimes
counts,
they're,
a
deep
channel,
counselor,
Troi,
C
counts
of
Robinson
count.
Our
mayor,
Tory,
counselor
mammal
et
counts
their
de
bear
maker,
sir
holiday
councillor.
Digiorgio
counts.
The
part
counts
it
by
Lao,
Tsur
Nunziata
for.
O
Divya
Nayak,
counts
or
Fletcher
counts
at
Cole
counts,
their
Fillion
counts
of
Fraga
Dacus.
Councillor
Doucet
counts
their
perks,
councillor
Matt
low
counts
there
Shan
councillor,
Davis
counts
there.
My
havoc
counts
of
Crecy.
Yes,
there
Ainsley
councillor
per
itza
counts.
There
long
time
counts.
There
Layton
counts,
there,
Kelly
counts,
there.
Thompson
counts,
their
eyes
are
Mary.
O
Members
of
council,
as
no
candidate,
has
received
more
than
one
half
of
the
votes
of
the
members
of
council
president
voting
I
will
conduct
a
second
ballot.
Please
take
your
seats.
I
will
not
begin
the
balloting
process
until
all
members
are
seated.
The
next
ballot
will
exclude
the
nominees
with
the
fewest
votes
and
any
nominee
with
no
votes.
Please
again
remember
to
print
your
name
and
sign
your
ballot
in
the
space
provided
at
the
top
of
the
ballot.
If
you
do
not
do
so,
your
ballot
will
be
spoiled,
and
your
vote
not
counted.
O
O
A
O
Members
I
have
the
results
of
the
second
ballot.
There
were
41
ballots
cast,
the
number
of
votes
required
to
appoint
is
21.
There
were
no
spoiled
or
illegal
ballots.
The
votes
for
candidates
are
as
follows:
Lister
for
nay
AK,
18,
say
Oh.
19
I
will
now
read
the
names
of
the
members
casting
votes
for
each
of
the
candidates.
The
votes
from
each
ballot
will
also
be
reproduced
in
the
minutes
of
this
meeting
for
Ken
Lister
councillors,
Ford
Carrie
Janice,
shiner
Palacio.
O
As
there
is
no
candidate
who
has
received
more
than
one
half
of
the
members
of
the
votes
of
the
members
of
council,
president
voting
I
will
conduct
a
third
ballot
again
members,
please
take
your
seats.
I
will
not
begin
the
balloting
process
until
all
members
are
seated,
we
will
distribute
the
ballots
and
at
this
point,
the
names
of
the
candidates
who
received
the
fewest
number
of
votes
and
no
votes
on
the
second
ballot
who
have
been
excluded
from
the
third
ballot.
O
A
N
N
O
I
now
have
the
results
of
the
third
ballot.
There
were
41
ballots
cast.
The
number
of
votes
required
to
a
point
is
21.
There
were
no
spoiled
or
illegal
ballots.
The
votes
for
candidates
are
as
follows:
nay,
ak,
18,
say:
Oh
23
I
will
now
read
the
names
of
the
members
casting
votes
for
each
of
the
candidates.
These
votes
will
also
be
reproduced
in
the
minutes
of
this
meeting
for
Divya
neck
councillor,
Fillion
ragged
actus
hole,
Fletcher
havoc
press
e
to
set
Kingsley
Turks
matte
low
Davis,
an
item
as
a
Mary
Thompson
Kelly.