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City Council, meeting 35, December 5, 2017 - Part 1 of 2
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Part 2 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbYFh3nBHBQ#t=3m42s
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0:42:54 - Call to order
A
Checking
one
two:
three,
four:
five
six
Audio
check
one
two,
three
four:
five:
six
here
on
December,
the
fifth
checking
audio
from
the
e-tron
Toronto
council
chambers
check
them
one,
two,
three,
four:
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
ten
I'll
go
checking
one
two,
three,
four:
five:
six:
seven,
eight
nine
ten
here
in
the
council
chambers,
Toronto,
City
Hall,
checking
audio
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
ten
on
a
very
great
and
dark
December.
The
fifth
outside
checking
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
ten!
B
B
We
acknowledge
that
we
are
meeting
today
on
the
traditional
territory
of
the
Mississauga's
of
new
credit,
First
Nation.
The
hudner
show
neither
here
on
when
debt
and
home
to
many
diverse
indigenous
peoples,
for
the
benefit
of
those
who
are
connected
to
the
internet.
The
city
clerk
has
posted
all
of
the
agenda
materials
for
today's
meeting,
a
Toronto
dot,
CA
/
council
members.
C
Well,
thank
you.
Pardon
me,
madam
Speaker
and
good
morning,
colleagues
and
and
visitors
to
the
City,
Council
and
I
want
to
in
particular
welcome
and
come
on
up
here
guys,
and
maybe
you
could
just
stand
right
here
so
that
you
can
be
there
with
that
trophy
we
can
get
a
little
closer
to
it,
and
I
want
to
welcome
Matt
black
Shawn,
Lemmon
and
Tyler
Holmes
from
the
Argos,
and
thank
them
for
being
here
with
us
today
and
more
important
than
thanking
them
for
being
here.
C
C
You
hope,
if
you
sit
in
the
office
that
I
sit
in
a
number
of
you
have
offices.
They
look
out
over
the
square
that
before
too
long.
While
you
have
a
chance
to
be
here
that
you
will
have
the
chance
to
see
that
square
hosting
a
championship
party
for
a
team
that
has
done
well
in
Toronto
and,
of
course,
that
day
came
again
because
the
Argos
have
won
the
Grey
Cup
17
times.
This
was
the
17th
the
first
time
in
a
few
years
since
the
hundredth,
Grey
Cup,
but
sure
enough.
C
We're
proud
of
you.
We
support
you.
We
are
thrilled
that
you
won
this
year
and
did
so
well
and
now
the
hard
part
begins,
which
is
to
go
back
next
year
and
defend
this
championship.
So
we
could
have
you
here
with
this
trophy
about
a
year
from
today
and
so
on
that
note
I'd
like
to
ask
Matt,
Black
I,
think
he's
the
designated
spokesperson
to
come
forward
and
say
a
few
words
on
behalf
of
the
team,
but
congratulations
and
thank
you
for
bringing
great
pride
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
everybody
for
having
us
here
today
on
behalf
of
myself,
Shaun
and
Tyler,
and
the
rest
of
the
2017
Toronto,
Argonauts
and
Argonauts
or
organization.
We
appreciate
you
all
opening
up
counsel
to
us
and
allowing
us
to
come
here
today.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
your
support
over
the
years.
I
know
very
a
lot
of
Council
members
have
been
extremely
supportive
of
the
team,
helping
us
get
into
helping
out
with
the
rally
and
to
the
Catholic
school
board
as
well
for
Don
Bosco.
A
The
practice
facility
I've
been
a
member
of
this
team
for
nine
years
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
changes.
I've
had
three
owners:
three
GM's,
four
head
coaches
and
eight
defensive
coordinators
in
in
nine
years,
and
the
changes
that
have
happened
to
this
organization.
Just
this
year
alone,
have
been
instrumental
in
us.
Bringing
this
championship
back
to
Toronto
and
the
ability
to
have
a
home
at
Don.
Bosco
has
been
instrumental
to
us
and
our
success,
and
it's
going
to
be
instrumental
in
to
the
success
of
the
Argonauts
moving
forward.
A
A
C
C
I'll
tell
you
right
now
to
present
the
Grey
Cup
to
the
are
goes
twice
that
they
won
while
I
was
the
Commissioner
and
I
was
giddy
but
I
couldn't
say
anything
but
members
of
council
who
want
to
have
the
picture
taken
with
these
three
players
and
with
the
trophy
come
on
up
here
and
we'll
just
do
it
in
front
of
here.
It's
a
bit
disorderly,
but
we'll
just
do
it,
no
more
disorderly
in
our
meetings
so
come
on
up.
If
you
want
to
and
we'll
do
the
picture,
and
so
it
isn't
just
me
doing
that.
C
A
C
B
B
You
members
of
council,
we
have
the
following:
an
administrative
inquiry
from
councillor
Gord
perks
before
us
today:
administrative
inquiry
35.1
on
the
cost
of
preventing
information
being
released
at
Toronto
Hydro.
The
city
manager's
answer
to
this
inquiry
has
been
placed
on
members
desk
this
morning
as
part
of
the
package
of
additional
materials.
May
I
have
a
motion
to
receive
the
inquiry
and
answer
for
information.
Councillor
perks,.
H
B
C
Better,
the
Speaker
I
move
that
report
from
meeting
29
of
the
executive
committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration
and
I'll
just
touch
on
four
of
the
matters
that
we
dealt
with
at
the
meeting.
If
I
may.
Madam
Speaker.
First
of
all,
we
considered
a
report
that
is
before
us
today
here
that
moves
another
big
step
forward
in
delivering
real
transit
relief
and
real
relief
from
congestion
with
the
moving
forward
of
smart
track.
C
And
the
report
also
has
us
moving
forward
with
ten
additional
transit
stops
on
the
Eglinton
West
proposed
LRT
transit
extension,
including
the
formation
of
a
working
group
of
community
stakeholders,
to
further
investigate
a
grade,
a
separation
or
tunneling
options
in
response
to
the
considerable
public
interest
that
was
expressed
on
these
things,
so
that
this
report
is
a
very
important
next
step
forward
for
smart
track.
Construction
is
underway
in
Scarborough
on
double-tracking
we're
actually
getting
public
input
and
processing
it
on
station
location
of
design,
and
things
like
that.
This
is
something
that
is
happening.
C
C
This
council
and
its
predecessors
have
approved
a
lot
of
growth
in
the
city,
but
we
haven't
done
the
job
that
needs
to
be
done
with
respect
to
making
sure
that
we
have
both
on
a
citywide
basis
for
an
iconic
kind
of
Park
like
this
and
on
a
downtown
basis,
adequate
a
provision
of
parkland
and
I
think
well.
The
report
that
contains
many
different
answers
or
preliminary
answers
to
questions.
The
real
thing
is:
what's
the
question
and
I
think
the
question
Madame
speaker
that
will
be
dealt
with
in
our
discussions
to
follow
is
very
simple.
C
The
question
is:
there
are
three
options
which
one
do
you
pick?
Do
you
pick
the
status
quo,
which
has
an
ugly,
although
useful
and
necessary
rail
corridor,
the
cuts
right
through
the
middle
of
downtown
and,
in
fact
separates
one
part
of
the
city
from
another?
Do
you
pick
more
condo
towers
on
that
land
and
on
the
assumption,
somehow
we
don't
have
an
offer
that
we
don't
have
enough
in
enough
places
in
that
area
of
the
city.
C
Or
do
you
pick
a
park
that
will
become
a
citywide
attraction,
a
citywide
asset,
a
globally
known
attraction,
just
like
Millennium
Park
and
Highline
Park?
That
is
the
question,
and
that
is
what
we're
going
to
further
consider
today
again
on
a
stage
gated
basis.
As
we
look
at
this
report.
That
brings
us
some
of
the
rest
of
the
way
there
a.
C
Thirdly,
madam
Speaker,
we
dealt
with
a
report
which
will
be
before
us
again
on
the
2018
poverty
reduction
strategy
and
some
highlights
of
the
28
teamwork
plan,
which
I
will
be
supporting
the
funding
of
through
the
budget.
Now
that
the
budget
has
been
turned
over
to
the
actual
budget
process,
increased
investments
in
child
care,
including
thousands
of
new
spaces
before
28
at
2019,
including
hundreds
of
new
spaces
for
this
coming
year.
C
New
subsidies
implementing
the
first
phase
of
the
transit
fare
equity
strategy,
again
something
that
I'll
be
supporting
in
our
budget,
which
will
help
lower-income
residents
and
increased
investments
in
student
nutrition.
This
is
the
fourth
year
of
the
plan.
We
have
a
new
plan
that
we
have
to
put
in
place
under
the
leadership
of
counselor
mo
havoc
for
the
future,
because
the
first
plan
was
meant
to
cover
this
term
of
council
and
finally,
another
very
important
item.
That's
before
us,
madam
Speaker,
is
the
implementation
of
the
first
anti
black
racism
plan
for
the
city.
C
I
will
speak
more
to
this
when
the
matter
comes
up,
but
suffice
it
to
say
certainly
from
what
I
heard,
what
I
knew
before
as
all
of
us
do.
What
I
heard
in
the
process
of
the
41
community
consultations
involving
hundreds
of
residents,
of
which
I
attended
several
personally
and
what
I've
heard
even
in
this
building.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
that
our
own
house
is
in
order
free
of
discrimination
and
bias.
C
So
the
people
here
can
be
the
best
they
can
be
without
fear
of
discrimination
or
bias,
and
that
outside
of
this
building,
we
set
a
role
model,
an
example,
but
outside
of
this
building,
we
do
everything
we
can
through
the
recommendations
in
this
strategy
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
city
that
can
pride
itself,
not
only
on
being
the
most
diversity
in
the
world,
which
is
a
fact,
but
on
being
the
most
inclusive
city
in
the
world
and
in
this
area.
This
sets
out
a
roadmap
for
us
to
help
achieve
that
very
vital
objective.
J
B
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
24,
the
community
development
and
Recreation
Committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration.
Perhaps
among
several
items
the
certainly
the
shelter
infrastructure
plan
will
get
a
lot
of
attention.
Homelessness
is
quickly
becoming
one
of
the
most
prevalent
social
crisis
of
our
generation.
These
are
this
is
the
result
of
enormous
forces
working
working
in
society,
complex
medical
situations,
substance
abuse
and
other
disabilities
make
a
great
challenge
for
us.
D
Perfect
storm
is
exacerbated
by
the
fact
that
immigration
policy,
both
at
the
federal
level
in
Canada
and
new
new
pivot
darkness
descending
on
the
Republic
to
the
south,
makes
Toronto
a
destination
for
both
asylum
seekers
and
immigrants,
making
increasing
more
pressure.
We
have
to
live
up
to
our
commitment
to
make
sure
that
when
people
come
here,
they
have
a
safe
place
to
stay,
they
have
a
roof
over
their
head
and
they
make
sure
they
have
the
support
services
so
that
they
can
succeed,
they
can
be
healthy
and
they
can
become
functioning
members
of
society.
D
Toronto
is
now
also
holding
holding
the
ground
for
other
regional
municipalities
and
antidotal
Lee
speaking.
Many
of
these
municipalities
put
people
people
seeking
shelters
into
a
taxi
and
send
them
off
to
Toronto.
We
were
at
the
breaking
point
here,
but
I'm
optimistic
as
we
made
an
announcement
on
Sunday
to
increase
capacity
in
our
shelter
system
that
no
one
will
be
turned
away,
that
support
services
will
increase
and
that
will
do
our
base
best
to
make
sure
everybody
has
a
safe
place
to
stay.
B
J
And
good
morning,
speaker
that
the
report
from
meeting
number
25
of
the
Economic
Development
Committee,
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
considered
for
be
presented
for
consideration.
Speaker
I
simply
want
to
draw
members
of
councils
attention
to
to
item
on
the
agenda
Eadie
25.3,
which
is
a
one-year
extension
of
the
contributions
for
a
contribution
agreement
for
the
cultural
grant
recipients.
This
is
an
important
item,
because
what
we're
looking
at
is
to
review
how
we
provide
cultural
grants
to
those
granting
agencies
and
so
on.
We
may
look
at
adding
more.
J
We
may
looking
we'd
be
looking
at
perhaps
revising
some
of
those
who
are
receiving
it
now
and
in
fact,
we're
also
looking
at
ensuring
that
we
can
actually
monitor
more
precisely
what
the
benefits
are
in
terms
of
our
contributions.
The
other
item
that
I
want
to
draw
to
members
attention.
It
is
the
item
on
broadband,
which
is
advancing
broadband
infrastructure
and
Internet
connectivity.
This
is
extremely
important.
The
report
really
speaks
to
the
fact
that
we're
looking
at
evaluating
our
current
state
of
broadband
infrastructure
and
the
Internet
services
in
City
of
Toronto.
J
Clearly,
we
could
be
doing
that
right
across
the
country,
because
what
we
do
know
that
is
that
broadband
and
and
its
infrastructure
is
extremely
important
to
us.
It's
extremely
important
to
the
economy.
In
Canada,
we
spend
on
average
about
300
million,
that
we
invest
in
a
broadband
technology
and
development
in
the
United
States.
It's
7.2
billion
dollars
in
Germany.
Germany
is
perhaps
one
of
the
most
events
areas
in
this
area.
They
spent
about
thirty
six
billion
dollars,
Australia
about
11
billion
dollars.
J
Similarly,
the
other
countries
we've
seen
that
a
1%
increase
with
respect
to
the
broadband
penetration
has
increased
the
GDP
in
those
areas
significantly.
We
need
to
recognize
that
broadband
is
an
important
aspect,
because
it
really
is
going
to
help
with
respect
to
what
is
called
the
the
digital
divide,
where
low
income,
Torontonians
and
so
on,
who
do
not
app,
have
access
to
internet
and
so
on,
are
going
to
be
left
behind.
J
If
we
don't
create
an
environment
where
accessibility
will
occur
and
of
course,
accessibility
will
require
us
to
look
at
the
cost
with
respect
to
broadband
and
how
the
technologies
utilize.
Some
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
consider
and
I
know
that
staff
will
be
working
through.
This
process
is
to
look
at
how
we
can
get
those
companies.
We
have
I,
think
we
don't
have
monopolies
here
in
Toronto
or
in
Canada
we
have.
Perhaps
we
all
call
it
an
oligopoly
where
you
know
you
have
only
a
limited
number
of
carriers.
J
They
need
to
be
working
together.
Governments
need
to
be
encouraging
these
organizations,
these
companies
to
work
together,
to
share,
for
example,
lines
and
to
share
how
the
conduits
cuts
could
work
to
actually
help,
because
those
are
some
of
the
ways
that
we're
going
to
address
the
issue
around
cost.
If
we
don't
actually
address
these
particular
issues,
we're
going
to
have
an
impact
with
respect
to
our
economic
development,
with
respect
to
where
the
job
growth
SAR
for
all
the
young
people
that
are
coming
into
the
market.
J
Now,
because
we
know
the
role
of
technology,
we
know
the
role
of
the
internet,
so
speaker
I'd,
encourage
members
of
council
to
really
read
this
report,
because
this
is
going
to
be
an
important
piece
of
a
document
to
help
us
in
terms
of
advancing
economic
growth
and
the
potential
for
the
City
of
Toronto
to
grow
and
create
more
jobs.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
G
B
B
G
E
B
B
K
You
madam
Speaker
I,
would
like
to
move
the
motion
and
then
say
a
few
words
that
the
report
of
from
meeting
25
of
the
public
works
in
the
Infrastructure
Committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration
and
I
just
want
to
say.
We
had
a
very
productive
meeting,
this
law
Spiewak
meeting,
we
did
debated
many
exciting
items
for
the
City
of
Toronto,
including
25,
point
12,
the
curbside
management
strategy,
which
is
before
us
today.
K
This
strategy
was
actually
identified
as
part
of
the
congestion
management
plan
right
off
the
top
of
this
administration,
and
it's
a
real
step
in
the
right
direction,
in
reducing
contrast,
congestion
and
gridlock
at
our
city,
which
is
a
growing
problem
and
as
well.
We
had
a
good
discussion
on
vision,
zero
or
Road
safety
plan.
K
So
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
staff
for
accelerating
this
program,
not
in
just
in
2016,
but
also
in
2017
and
I
have
good
news
for
you,
because
that
peewit,
we
moved
another
motion
and
it
was
fully
supported
by
the
Public
Works
Committee
and
we
are
requesting
the
Budget
Committee
mr.
budget
chair
to
consider
and
make
recommendations
on
the
funding
required
to
implement
even
a
further
acceleration
and
expansion
of
the
road
safety
plan
in
2018
rather
than
2019.
So
all
this
is
good
news.
K
I
can
hear
the
budget
chief,
mumbling
positive
things
here
and
it's
very
exciting
and
I
just
again
wanted
miles
curry
and
Roger
Brown,
who
have
led
the
charge
on
this
and
worked
very
closely
with
all
our
stakeholder
groups,
which
have
been
extensive,
ongoing
meetings
with
them
in
our
annual
summit
and
thank
everybody
for
their
excellent
work
on
this
program.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Thank
you.
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
26
to
the
North
York
Community
Council,
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration.
I'm
sure
councillors
are
very
anxious
to
debate
items
26:40
and
26:41
application
or
move
of
private
tree
134
York
Minster
and
4156
Cassandra
Boulevard
I'm
I'm
sure
that
will
prompt
most
animated
debate.
B
F
Madam
Speaker
morning,
councillors
I
would
like
to
introduce
the
report
from
meeting
28
of
the
Toronto
and
East
Shore
community
council
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council,
be
presented
for
consideration
and
also
to
convey
our
deep
book
her
gratitude
once
again
to
the
City
Clerk's,
who
helped
us
shepherd.
95
items
at
this
committee
meeting
I
recognize
that
Toba
Kok
York
concluded
41
items
of
business.
North
York
did
58
items
of
business
and
Scarborough
with
19
downtown
clerks.
You
work
really
hard
Thank
You.
E
B
A
C
Madam
Speaker
I
have
an
interest
to
declare
on
three
items,
and
this
is
as
a
result
of
my
in
direct
interest
in
Rogers
communication
because
of
my
continuing
involved
with
the
Roger's
family
item:
1pw
24.4,
improving
accountability
in
the
utility
cut
process
and
that's
because
rogers
conducts
utility
cuts
and
would
be
affected
by
the
proposed
changes
item,
2
e
d,
25.4,
advancing
broadband
infrastructure
and
internet
connectivity,
and
that's
because
rogers
provides
broadband
and
Internet
services
in
item
3
is
mm
35.1
the
request
to
reinstate
the
rogers
community
television
channel.
Thank.
G
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
have
a
petition
submitted
by
the
Scarborough
transit
action,
which
reads:
City
Council
believes
a
Scarborough
subway
extension.
It's
the
best
transit
option
for
our
neighborhoods,
we're
asking
them
to
prove
it.
Merit
Ori
in
the
majority
of
City
Council's
support
the
one-stop
subway
extension
from
Kennedy
to
Scarborough
town
centre
that
has
never
been
compared
with
the
existing
Scarborough
RT
or
a
pre-approved
shovel-ready
7
stop
LRT
to
determine
if
it's
actually
improved
transit
services
for
Scarborough
and
her
report.
G
On
the
TTC
briefing
note,
the
city
auditor
general
stated
that
a
value
for
money
and
at
analysts,
analysis
of
the
Scarborough
subway
extension,
may
form
part
of
a
future
audit.
We
urge
you
to
conduct
a
value-for-money
analysis.
Toronto
residents
deserve
to
know
why
their
tax
dollars
three
point.
Five
six
billion
dollars
to
date
are
being
spent
on
a
one-stop
subway
and
not
a
twenty
four
stop
LRT
network
that
would
serve
multiple
Scarborough
neighborhoods
and
the
students
of
Centennial
College
and
the
University
of
starboard
Scarborough
campus.
A
B
B
K
F
Speaker
I'd
like
to
present
a
petition
signed
by
madam
Speaker,
I'd
like
to
present
a
petition
signed
by
3,000
individuals
asking
that
the
Armory's
be
opened
for
a
shelter.
The
petition
reads:
Toronto
shelter
system
is
full
and
people
are
routinely
turned
away.
The
overflow
of
all
volunteer
run.
Article
program
is
similarly
full.
Last
winter,
the
two
24-hour
warming
centers
were
overcrowded
sleeping
people,
sleeping
people
inches
away
from
each
other.
On
mats
on
the
floor.
F
In
the
past,
the
mayor
of
Toronto
requested
the
Minister
of
National
Defense
for
the
use
of
Port
York
and
Moss
Park
armies
for
emergency
shelter,
four
separate
times
each
time
the
mayor
asked
the
federal
government
says
yes
and
hundreds
of
people
were
able
to
access
safe
shelter,
opening
the
Armory's
will
prevent
these
deaths.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mary.
H
You
speaker
I
have
a
petition
of
three
thousand
names.
It
reads:
open
the
Armory's
for
shelter,
Toronto
shelter
system
is
full
and
people
are
routinely
turned
away.
The
overflow
volunteer-run
out
of
the
cold
program
is
similarly
full.
Last
winter,
the
two
24-hour
warming
centers
were
overcrowded
sleeping
people
inches
away
from
each
other.
On
mats
on
the
floor,
a
serious
strep
a
outbreak
has
resulted
in
the
loss
of
over
100
shelter
beds.
Hundreds
of
people
are
abandoned,
forcing
forced
to
sleep
outside
in
parks,
ravines
under
bridges
and
on
sidewalks.
H
In
the
past,
the
mayor
of
Toronto
requested
the
Minister
of
National
Defense
for
use
of
Fort
York
and
mark
Spock
Maas
Park
armories
for
emergency
shelter,
four
separate
times
each
time
the
mayor
asked
the
federal
government
said
yes
and
hundreds
of
people
were
able
to
access
safe
shelter.
Opening
the
Armory's
will
prevent
deaths.
A
M
N
O
I
have
a
petition
with
three
thousand
names
as
well:
open
the
arm
race
for
shelter
its
to
the
Mayor
of
the
City
of
Toronto
John
Tory
Toronto's
shelter
system
is
full
and
people
are
routinely
turned
away.
The
overflow
volunteer,
run
out
of
the
cold
program
is
similarly
full.
Last
winter,
the
two
24-hour
warming
centers
were
overcrowded
sleeping
people
inches
away
from
each
other.
On
mats
on
the
floor,
a
serious
strep
a
outbreak
has
resulted
in
loss
of
over
a
hundred
shelter
beds.
O
Hundreds
of
people
are
abandoned
and
forced
to
sleep
outside
in
parks,
ravines
under
bridges
and
on
sidewalks.
In
the
past,
the
mayor
of
Toronto
requested
the
Minister
of
National
Defense
for
use
of
Fort
York
and
Moss
Park
armories
for
emergency
shelter,
four
separate
times
each
time
the
mayor
asked
the
federal
government
said
yes
and
hundreds
of
people
were
able
to
access
safe
shelter,
opening
opening
the
Armory's
will
prevent
deaths,
Thank
You.
L
Madam
Speaker
I
just
based
on
what
it
well
we're
we're
learning
today
and
what
we've
seen
over
the
last
few
days.
Is
there
any
way
that,
given
all
of
the
names
that
are
on
these
petitions,
that
we
can
actually
talk
about
this
this
morning
and
and
deal
with
the
issue
at
hand
as
opposed
to
throwing
these
petitions
somewhere
when
we're
never
going
to
see
them
again.
L
A
You
madam
Speaker
I,
have
petition
here
from
2000
people
signed.
It's
calling
the
mayor
to
open
the
Armory's
for
shelter.
Toronto
shelter
system
is
full
and
people
are
routinely
turned
away.
The
overflow
volunteer,
run
out
of
the
cold
program
is
similarly
full.
Last
winter,
the
22
24
hour
warming
centers
were
overcrowded,
sleeping
people
inches
away
from
each
other.
On
mats
on
the
floor.
In
the
past,
the
mayor
of
Toronto
requested
the
Minister
of
National
Defense
for
the
use
of
Fort
York
and
most
Park
armories
for
emergency
shelter.
A
A
Madam
Speaker
I
have
a
petition
here
with
4000
signatures.
The
petition
is
requesting
City
of
Toronto
Metron
Tory
to
open
the
armories
and
shelters
Toronto
shelter
system
is
full
and
people
routinely
turned
away.
The
overflow
volunteer
run
out
of
occult
programs
are
similarly
for
last
winter,
the
two
24-hour
warming
shelters
were
overcrowded
sleeping
people
inches
away
from
each
other
on
mats
on
the
floor,
I
also
have
residents
sleeping
on
our
streets
and
they
need
shelter
and
they
need
it
now.
A
C
B
Favor,
thank
you.
Members
I
will
not
review
the
order
paper.
We
have
11
deferred
items
on
this
agenda
items:
au,
10.7,
CD,
23,
10,
PG,
23.9,
P,
W,
24.3,
P,
W,
24.4,
P,
W,
24.5,
st
14
5,
st
14
11
te
27:46
and
man
35.1
and
mm
35.2.
The
details
of
these
deferred
items
are
listed
on
pages
3,
&,
4
of
the
order
paper.
The
mayor
has
designated
the
following
items
as
this
key
matters
for
this
meeting.
The
first
key
matter
will
be
item
e
X
29.1
had
a
smart
track,
project
update
and
next
steps.
B
The
second
key
matter
will
be
item
e
X,
29.2,
headed
rail
deck
park,
results
of
visibility,
analysis
and
next
steps
for
implementation.
There
will
be
our
first.
These
will
be
our
first
and
second
items
of
business
today,
I
propose
that
the
related
official
plan
amendment
on
the
rail
deck
park
item
t
28.7
be
brought
forward
for
consideration
with
the
mayor
second
key
item.
B
There
are
also
a
number
of
other
items
on
the
agenda
that
are
related,
so
I
propose
that
they
also
be
considered
together
items
hl-20
to
22.3
and
PD
PE
23.7
on
reducing
health
risk
from
traffic
related
air
pollution
in
Toronto.
An
item
sell
as
23.1
on
licensing
and
registration
regulations
for
short-term
rentals,
an
item
PG
24.8
on
zoning
bylaw
and
Sony
bylaw
amendments
to
permit
short-term
rentals
notices
of
motion
so
to
be
dealt
with
at
2
p.m.
tomorrow.
B
Only
if
the
mayor's
key
items
have
been
completed,
I
propose
that
city
council
set
a
time
for
a
closed
session.
If
required
later
in
the
meeting,
the
city
clerk
has
noted.
The
items
that
members
wish
to
hold
I
will
now
go
through
the
items
listed
on
the
order
paper
to
take
addition
of
I
will
recognize
requests
to
make
matters
urgent
and
time
specific
after
I
go
through
the
items
for
additional
holds
once
your
paper
has
been
approved
by
count,
so
any
change
will
need
a
two-thirds
vote.
H
You
speaker
I,
have
a
procedural
motion
pertaining
to
e
X
29
point
1
0,
enhanced
security
measures,
a
Toronto
City
Hall
I've,
been
advised
by
the
clerk
that
now
is
the
correct
time
to
move
it.
I
move
that
the
city
manager,
City
Council,
requests
the
city
solicitor
on
the
deputy
city
manager,
internal
corporate
services
to
meet
with
the
city
clerk
to
review
confidential
attachments,
1
2,
3,
&
4
to
the
report,
November
15
2017
from
the
deputy
city
manager,
internal
corporate
services.
H
P
H
Members,
as
you
know,
we
have
an
item
in
front
of
us,
which
was
of
great
public
interest
on
the
issue
of
how
to
enhance
the
security
of
this
building
and
members
of
council,
the
public
service
and
and
members
of
the
public
who
are
visiting
the
building
at
the
executive
committee.
I
want
to
acknowledge,
merit
or
II,
made
some
very
powerful
and
important
amendments
to
put
off
for
further
study
some
of
the
physical
changes
that
were
being
considered
within
the
building
and
to
go
forward
with
those
physical
changes
that
would
prevent
vehicles
from
entering
Nathan.
H
Phillips,
Square
and
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that.
However,
I'm
deeply
concerned
with
how
the
information
was
brought
to
us
you'll
note
that
there's
a
series
of
in
camera
or
confidential
attachments
that
are
listed
as
being
in
camera
or
confidential
because
they
relate
to
the
security
of
this
corporation
I.
Think
that
there's
a
an
error
in
the
way
that
was
assessed.
H
However,
what
has
been
done
is
that
everything
that
has
the
word
security
in
it
has
been
put
in
a
confidential
attachment,
including
recommendations
for
putting
in
features
that
would
be
plainly
visible
to
anyone
there
is.
There
is
no
benefit.
Nothing
is
gained
by
preventing
the
public
discussion
of
information
which
any
member
of
the
public
would
be
able
to
serve,
observe
with
their
own
two
eyes.
H
There's
there's
no
additional
risk
brought
to
this
corporation.
If
members
of
the
public
see
that
information
as
we
debate
it
before
we
install
it
so
I
would
ask
that
these
senior
officials
listed
in
this
motion
have
a
conversation.
I
hope
they
can
do
it.
They
can
expedite
it
so
that,
before
we
debate
the
item,
it
will
be
possible
for
that
information
to
be
released
publicly
so
that,
if
we
have
remarks
relating
to
those
features,
we
can
make
them
in
public
I.
H
Think
that's
an
important
part
of
discussing
this,
our
Civic
Building,
which
is,
after
all,
the
People's
Palace
and
further
that
that
conversation
lead
to
perhaps
a
reconsideration
of
what
principle
we
have
when
we
keep
information
in
camera,
whether
it's
the
principle
of
as
I
stated
at
the
beginning,
not
releasing
that
information
that
if
it
were
made
public
what
would
create
risk
and
only
that,
in
that
instance,
making
it
confidential.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
attention.
I
hope,
you'll
support.
My
motion
thank.
H
This
is
the
debate
right
now
about
whether
the
information
would
be
brought
forward
right.
If
we
approve
this
motion,
the
senior
officials
listed
in
the
motion
would
go
and
have
a
conversation
review
the
document
and
see
which
which
pieces
of
it
can
be
made
public
and
it
would
be
public
when
we
get
to
the
item.
Okay,.
H
Theory
there
could
be
a
motion
put
during
the
debate.
You
know,
there's
a
motion.
We
can
move
that
says,
release
the
confidential
information
at
some
future
date
or
when
some
circumstances
made,
but
that
would
be
part
of
the
normal
debate
that
we
have
and
if
someone
were
to
move
that
motion,
that
would
be
their
whole
speaking
time,
so
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
otherwise
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
debate
twice.
Thank.
L
I've
got
questions
of
the
mover
and
then
I
I
do
want
to
speak
to
item,
but
I
think
we
all.
We
all
had
the
privilege
of
meeting
with
staff
or
talking
to
staff
about
this
issue.
Did
you
talk
to
staff?
I?
Did
yes,
and
and
did
they
answer
those
questions
when
you
asked
them
in
those
in
those
discussions,
I.
H
H
Reviewed
the
confidential
attachments
I
believe
there
are
a
number
the
recommendations
or
discussion
points
in
there,
which
absolutely
could
and
should
be
made
public
I.
Don't
ask
them
to
make
public
for
my
benefit.
I
ask
me
made
public
for
the
benefit
of
the
Torontonians
who
owned
this
building.
Okay,.
L
H
C
Benefit
groom,
yes,
I
would
just
simply
to
say
that
this
was
something
I'd
indicated
that
I
would
do
if
councillor
perks,
hadn't
and
I'm
glad
he
has
and
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
think
it's
appropriate
in
the
circumstances
we
get
the
advice,
and
hopefully
it
will
allow
us
to
do
what
councilor
perks
is
trying
to
do
here.
Thank
you,
Matt
thank.
L
Want
to
say
that
I
I,
too,
will
be
supporting
the
the
motion,
but
I
think
it's
for
different
reasons.
I
think
I
think
my
intent
here
is
to
try
and
get
as
much
information
out
here
as
possible,
so
that
I
could
show
my
support
towards
the
security
and
the
staff
who
want
this
particular
system
changed
here
at
City,
Hall
I
think
there
is
enough
information
that
might
come
come
forward
that
would
warrant
us
the
ability
right
now
to
change
things
as
we
see
it.
L
So
it
is
more
secure
not
only
for
the
public
who
I
think
if
information
came
out
would
agree
with
with
with
that
concept,
but
I
think
for
our
own
staff,
who
are
putting
themselves,
in
my
opinion,
at
jeopardy
every
day,
knowing
that
some
of
this
information
is
available
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
supporting
our
staff
ins.
For
that
reason,
that
I
would
I
would
be
supporting
the
motion.
Thank.
B
G
B
Because
you
were
already
on
that
page,
no,
when
we
get
to
the
next
page:
yeah:
okay,
okay,
Thank,
You,
counselor,
110,
page
five.
Yes,.
B
F
B
H
A
B
I
G
A
F
I
J
G
R
B
B
B
K
H
A
L
H
B
O
O
B
I
You,
madam
Speaker
I
there
are
five
trees,
noted,
I'll,
read
them
in
a
moment:
I
just
simply
want
recorded
votes,
NY,
twenty
six
point:
three:
nine
application
of
private
tree;
thirty,
six
McNichol
Avenue,
and
why
twenty
six
point:
four:
zero
application
move:
a
private
tree,
one
three:
four
York
Minister
Road
NY.
Twenty
six
point:
four
one:
application
removed
private
tree;
fifty
six
Cassandra,
Boulevard,
SC,
twenty
six
point:
six
application:
remove
a
private
tree;
forty
two
grade:
point
Drive
and
SC.
Twenty
six
point:
seven
application
remove
a
private
316l,
Rita
Crescent!
Thank
you.
A
B
G
B
H
F
28-Point
1166
Wellesley
Street
East
and
five
five
to
five:
seventy
Church
Street
and
City
own
public
laneway
official
plan
and
zoning
amendment
and
rental
housing,
demolition
applications.
There's
a
refusal
report,
I
believe,
there's
still
a
supplementary
report
that
has
not
been
tabled.
I'd
like
to
hold
that
okay.
A
J
E
B
B
B
B
E
P
P
B
B
F
Madam
Speaker,
it's
a
combination
between
page
16
and
17
at
the
bottom
of
page
16,
CC,
35.8,
308,
314,
Jarvis,
Street
and
225
mutual
Street
appeal
of
zoning
bylaw
amendment
application.
There's
a
confidential
attachment
I'd
like
to
hold
that
item
and
do
so
with
the
the
item
on
the
following
page,
which
is
a
related
matter.
Cc
35.9
again,
the
title
is
308
314,
Jarvis,
Street
and
225
neutral
Street,
alterations
to
designated
heritage,
property
and
authority
to
enter
into
amending
heritage
agreement
for
314
Jarvis
Street.
Thank.
B
C
Motion,
yes,
I
do
madam
Speaker
I'll
just
say
to
colleagues
that
we
of
course
deferred
a
number
of
items
from
our
last
meeting
and
we
deferred
at
pending
consideration
of
possibly
having
a
special
meeting
which,
in
the
circumstances,
just
wasn't
going
to
be
practical.
When
we
talked
to
most
of
you,
and
so
we
determined
in
the
end
that
most
members
preferred
that
an
extra
day
be
added,
as
has
been
the
case
to
this
meeting.
C
However,
in
the
course
of
that
canvas,
so
many
people
expressed
concern
about
tonight
because
they
had
previously
scheduled
public
meetings
of
one
kind
or
another
and
asked
that
we
not
sit
so
that
they
wouldn't
have
to
cancel
meetings
on
shutting
short
notice
or
missed
them.
And
so,
as
a
result,
I
will
first
be
proposing
that
we
recessed
today
at
6
p.m.
C
in
order
to
allow
people
to
attend
these
meetings
and
I'm
further
proposing,
in
light
of
all
the
things
that
we
carried
over
and
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
at
different
points
in
time
because
of
staff
and
so
on.
I'll
give
the
reasons,
the
timings
as
follows.
First,
that
we
deal
with
item
ix20
9.10,
enhanced
security
at
City
Hall
after
the
key
items
as
the
police
are
here
only
for
that
item,
and
we
don't
want
them
having
to
sit
here
for
extended
periods
of
time.
C
Second,
that
we
deal
with
item
IX,
twenty
nine
point:
three:
six
indigenous
indigenous
affairs
office
as
the
first
item
after
lunch
tomorrow,
the
indigenous
peoples,
the
council,
Toronto
Council
fire
would
like
to
come
and
do
a
blessing
and
drumming
presentation
similar
to
what
they
did
the
executive
committee
to
help
us
ground
for
that
item
and
it's
proposed.
We
would
obviously
want
to
schedule
that
at
a
time
that
they
could
know
that's
when
they
were
to
be
here.
B
M
A
G
P
B
M
G
R
B
B
So
I
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
preparing
your
motions
in
advance.
The
clerk
staff
are
here
to
help
you
prepare
your
motions
in
particular.
If
you
intend
to
move
a
motion
during
the
release
of
Holt's
I
will
insist
that
your
motion
be
prepared
in
advance
and
given
to
the
clerk.
If
you
do
not
have
your
motion
ready,
I
would
not
recognize
you
and
I'm
also
reminding
members
that
you
must
state
your
motion.
First
before
you
speak
to
it.
B
Remember,
city
council
follows
a
routine
for
the
processing
and
adding
of
any
motions
without
notice
during
this
during
the
meeting,
please
remember
that
emotion
without
notice
must
include
a
reason,
Bergeon
see
if
you
have
an
urgent
motion
without
notice.
You
wish
to
bring
forward
at
this
meeting.
Please
give
your
motion
to
the
city
clerk
staff.
They
will
prepare
the
necessary
procedural
motion
for
my
review.
Along
with
your
motion.
The
chair
must
okay,
I'm
I'm,
sorry,
but
I
cannot
hear
myself.
B
If
you
can,
please
try
to
keep
it
down
counselor
flat,
your
members,
a
council
that
are
rotating
around
the
chair,
must
agree.
The
motion
is
urgent.
Before
you
can
seek
leave
to
introduce
it
at
this
meeting,
it
will
require
30
votes
cat
emotion
without
notice
to
the
agenda
during
the
meeting.
Motions
added
to
the
agenda
in
this
way
are
not
subject
to
a
vote.
To
waive
referral
to
a
committee
or
agency
I
will
be
reviewing
all
motions
carefully
and
will
advise.
Council
have
dete
recess,
which
motions
made
a
motion
to
the
agenda.
G
I
just
have
a
quick
announcement.
Madam
Speaker
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
councillor
de
verre
maker
who's,
usually
very
shy
by
Nature
one
eye
counselor
to
bear
maker
once
again
turned
29
years
old
yesterday
and
I
just
wanted
to
wish
him
a
happy
birthday
and
the
ability
to
celebrate
his
29th
birthday.
Many
more
times.
B
H
This
is
for
I
guess:
mister
farad,
we
I
attempted
to
get
an
answer
to
this
at
executive
committee
and
I
think
we're
still
struggling
to
get
it
clear.
When
this
item
came
to
council.
A
year
ago,
council
Irma
havoc
moved
a
motion
that
council
supported,
requiring
or
requesting
staff
to
have
present.
At
this
point
report
on
the
financing
mechanisms
being
considered
for
smart
track,
I'm
wondering
why
we
don't
have
that
report.
A
We
can
only
provide
you
with
definitive
financing
strategy
once
we
have
that
costing
information,
and
so
I
regret
to
inform
you
today
that
you
know
that
work
has
yet
to
be
concluded,
but
it
will
be
concluded
by
q2
of
2018
and
I
believe
the
report
last
year's
report
did
reference
a
stage-gate
process
where
we
identified
the
costs
with
some
degree
of
certainty
and
then
provide
council
with
a
financing
plan
to
deal
with
those
costs.
Thank.
H
H
Could
I
ask
that
in
in
the
absence
of
a
clear
assurance
that
you
can
make
a
commitment
that
at
least
there
will
be
a
notional
report
saying
we
don't
have
this
information?
We
don't
have
that
information,
but
we
can
tell
you
this
much.
I
would
rather
I'm
wondering
if,
if
you
could
provide
us
with
something
that,
while
not
complete
at
least
gives
us
some
more
information
than
we
have
right
now,
certainly.
N
Through
the
speaker,
my
understanding
of
what
we,
what
Executive
Committee
has
asked
us
to
do,
is
to
work
with
the
local
community
and
to
examine
a
number
of
options
for
the
Eglinton
West
LRT,
which
would
include
a
tunneled
option.
As
many
people
have
been
asking
for,
along
with
further
comparative
analysis
of
an
at-grade
and
grade-separated
option
for
the
LRT.
Okay,.
S
S
N
Through
the
through
the
speaker,
we
held
a
couple
of
public
meetings
in
Etobicoke.
We
have
also
had
significant
online
consultation
and
had
a
meeting
with
a
stakeholder
advisory
group
over
the
last
month.
Certainly,
the
first
meeting
that
we
had
in
Etobicoke
there
was
strong
support
and
quite
angry
support
for,
or
angry
comments
for
a
tunneled
option.
The
second
meeting
in
Etobicoke
the
tone
and
the
the
nature
of
the
comments
was
quite
different
and
indeed
what
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
our
online
responses
where
we've
had
just.
N
S
S
N
Through
the
speaker,
City
Planning,
Division,
regularly
updates
population
and
employment
projections
for
the
whole
city.
We
we
take
those
population
and
employment
projections
and
those
are
inputs
into
the
the
model
that
we
use
for
for
looking
at
demand
for
different
transit
lines.
Those
are
two
of
the
factors
that
we
consider
in
that
model.
Right.
N
The
through
the
speaker-
yes,
certainly,
we
have
been
looking
at
the
existing
employment
and
the
existing
passenger
movements
to
and
from
the
airport,
but
also
trying
to
understand
where
the
airport
sees
its
business
going
and
what
its
projecting
for
for
passenger
loads
in
the
next
couple
of
decades.
Thank.
B
R
Speaker
through
you,
when
the
recommendations
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me,
item
II
with
the
respect
to
Lawrence
East.
You
know
it
says
that
this
will
allow
for
the
continued
operation
of
line
three
until
the
opening
of
the
Scarborough
subway
extension.
What
do
we
have?
A
master
agreement
signed
with
the
province
and
the
TPC
on?
Is
that
a
subway
extension
or
is
it
a
seven?
Stop
our
team.
R
Why
are
we
not
using?
Why
are
you
not
using
conditional
language
here?
Why
are
you
assuming
given
the
fact
that
the
one-stop
subway
hasn't
gone
through
the
stage
gate
process
we
haven't
determined
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
be
spending
the
billions
of
dollars
on
it?
Why
is
this
assumption
here,
given
that
the
reality
now
is
that
we
have
a
Master
Agreement
sign
for
the
ort
through.
N
R
My
point
is,
though,
that
I'm
talking
about
the
information
we
get
from
staff
rather
than
we
are
what
we
are
asking
you
to
it's
aside
from
our
narrative.
It's
just
that.
The
fact
is
is
that
our
Master
Agreement
is
for
an
LRT,
and
this
is
assuming
something
different
and
we
have
not
voted
on
this
at
the
last
stage
of
the
stage
gate.
N
The
speaker,
Metrolinx
is
reviewing
both
the
Lawrence
and
the
Kirby
stations,
but
then
they
have
expanded
that,
through
and
in
changes
to
their
business
case
process,
and
they
are
updating
the
business
cases
on
on
all
of
the
news
stations
and
indeed
also
on
a
couple
of
other
stations
that
were
part
of
the
that's
before
including
parkland.
Another.
R
N
The
speaker,
we
provided
input
to
Metro
links
about
their
business
case,
both
more
recently
and
also
last
year.
That
pointed
out
a
number
of
inconsistencies
or
errors
in
the
assumptions
that
they
were
making
both
about
growth
and
about
ridership,
based
on
some
some
errors
in
their
analysis.
So,
yes,
their
case
did
find
a
lower
number
than
than
what
the
city
considers
to
be
the
case.
I.
R
Appreciate
that
so,
given
that
this
is
a
Metrolink
project,
given
that
Metro
links
has
perhaps
accepted
the
findings
of
the
Toronto
Star
enough
to
recognize
that
they
needed
to
publicly
announce
that
they
would
be
reviewing
the
merit
of
moving
forward
with
this
with
their
project
with
this
station.
Given
that
the
one
stops
subway
extension
has
not
been
approved
by
council,
yet
to
replace
the
master
agreement
that
we
have
with
the
province
in
the
TTC
to
move
forward
with
the
seven
stop
RT.
M
Madam
Speaker
Metrolinx
is
not
indicated
that
they
are
prepared
to
take
Laurence
out.
They've
simply
asked
us
for
some
additional
material
which
we've
provided
them,
and
we
believe
that
material
will
demonstrate
the
veracity
of
the
case
for
Laurence
east
and
therefore
we're
just
acting
in
accordance
with
the
directions
that
we've
had
on
numerous
occasions
from
Council
with
respect
to
that
station.
Madam.
R
Speaker,
no
one
has
suggested
that
Metrolinx
has
announced
that
they're
taking
Laurence
east
out,
but
it
is
a
fact
that
they
have
said
that
they
are
reviewing
the
merit
of
moving
forward.
Why
would
we
then
be
asking
to
advance
thing
that
is
currently
being
reviewed
by
the
very
organization
that
would
be
responsible
for
this
station?
I?
Don't
understand
that.
M
R
M
E
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
I
I
have
really
three
directions
in
which
I
want
to
question
the
the
issue
of
continuing
on
with
studying
tunneling
along
the
Eglinton
West
ten
stop
line
when,
in
fact,
you
are
today
recommending
that
we
proceed
with
the
ten
stop
LRT
line,
so
I
wanted
to
cover
the
costs,
the
risks
of
continuing
to
look
at
another
option,
and
and
also
if
we
are
proceeding
with
that
community
group,
how
that
might
run.
E
First
of
all,
you
are
recommending
today
tenth
the
ten
stops
as
described
in
attachment
2
with
its
costs
and
the
achievements.
Those
ten
stops
would
would
make
in
terms
of
connecting
the
regional
system
and
the
airport.
What
is
the
actual
cost
of
setting
aside
some
of
your
project
folks
to
actually
run
this
separate
group
continuing
to
look
at
tunneling
options.
N
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
estimate
that
we
gave
for
the
for
the
LRT
was
in
in
July
of
2016
about
2.5
billion
dollars.
That
was
still
to
be
verified
as
we
go
through
the
detailed,
the
detailed
analysis
and
and
further
design
work
right,
the
the
cost
of
tunneling
that
could
increase
the
cost
1.5
to
2
billion
or
or
perhaps
more.
We
need
to
again
work
through
that.
Yes,.
E
The
perhaps
more
is
probably
definitely
more
based
on
our
experience
recently.
Well,
what
is
the
cost
of
just
providing
this
feel
good
exercise
of
running
you'll
have
to
to
take
some
of
your
staff
and
off
the
side
of
their
desk.
They
now,
despite
your
recommendation,
Executive
Committee
now
asks
that
we
continue
to
have
this
working
group.
How
much
staff,
time
and
cost
will
be
spent
on
this
working
group.
So.
N
E
What
are
the
risks
in
in
your
view,
and
I
understand
that
this
is
a
difficult
question,
given
that
you
were
making
a
hard
recommendation
today
that
you
achieve
much
more
with
the
10
stop
line
at
grade?
What
are
the
risks,
misinformation
and
taking
us
down
another
road
of
making
a
purely
political
decision?
If
we,
if
we
enact
this
working
group
today,.
E
Upset
enough
said,
and
my
last
tack,
the
third
try
attack
is,
if
you
are
proceeding,
this
group
I
wonder
if
you
get
outline
for
us
what
your
interpretation
of
the
instruction
direct
staff
to
form
a
working
group
of
community
stakeholders
in
consultation
with
local
councilors.
Now
you've
already
taken
a
question
on
the
floor
this
morning
about
what
are
the
demographics
of
the
people
who
agree
and
people
who
disagree
I
get
in
in
consultation
with
local
councilors,
but
it
would
be.
N
The
speaker,
with
all
of
our
projects,
we
always
for
City
Planning,
always
forms
what
we
call
a
stakeholder
advisory
group.
That
is
meant
to
be
a
representative
of
a
cross-section
of
perspectives
and
communities.
We
try
very
hard
to
get
a
full
range
of
voices
on
our
stakeholder
advisory
groups
and
I
expect
that
very.
N
Q
O
O
A
O
O
A
N
Through
the
the
speaker,
we
have
not
updated
ridership
numbers
in
this
in
this
report,
because
there
there
are
still
conditions
that
were
sorting
out
about
the
nature
of
the
final,
the
final
arrangement
with
with
Metrolinx
on
smart
track.
We
will
be
updating
our
ridership
projections
as
we
I,
don't.
N
That
no,
we
will
be
doing
our
ridership
analysis.
We
when
we
presented
our
ridership
analysis
previously
to
Council
that
was
based
on
assumptions
about
what
fare
and
service
would
be
exactly
and
and
and
so
we
still
stand
by
those
numbers
and
we,
but
we
will
be
reviewing
them
for
our
queue
to
report.
O
O
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
focus
on
for
a
bit
is
the
response
to
the
metro
links
regional
transportation
plan.
That's
contained
in
attachment
five,
yes,
and
you
identify
priorities
here
and
for
the
completion
you
identify
that
the
plan
prioritizes
the
completion
of
current
projects,
and
that
includes
the
Scarborough
subway
extension-
is
that
the
case
through.
N
The
speaker
that
the
plan
includes
projects
that
where
commitments
have
been
made
as
well
as
those
where
there
is
significant
planning
and
development
underway
for
the
project,
so
it
would
include
also
the
Eglinton
East
and
Eglinton
West
LRT
projects
and
other
projects.
The
relief
line
as
well
right.
F
N
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
ridership
numbers
that
were
included
in
the
Laurens
East
business
case
did
indicate
yes,
that
there
was
a
drop
in
regional
ridership.
Overall
Metrolinx
tends
to
look
at
that.
We're
not
looking
at
what
is
the
benefit
to
Toronto
residents
and
Toronto
riders.
But
what
is
the
impact
to
a
small
number
of
riders
from
out
in
the
905
area?.
F
N
Through
the
the
speaker,
our
model,
there
were
a
couple
of
things
that
we
pointed
out
in
Metrolinx
business
case
that
we
thought
needed
to
be
corrected.
The
the
level
of
development,
both
population
and
employment
growth
around
the
station
was
we
was
under
represented.
They
had
also
included
the
three
stop
subway
instead
of
a
the
Express
subway
and
and
then
not
included
some
of
the
fair
assumption
that
that
we
have
done
so.
We
updated
our
own
ridership
numbers
for
for
that
for
that
station.
So.
F
How
is
it
that
Metrolinx,
as
youth
is
evaluating
this
this
proposal
with
a
three
stop
subway
and
the
city
staff,
were
valuing
of
the
one
stop
subway
yet
before
us
at
council,
I
think
right
now,
until
until
something
happens,
we're
still
considering
a
one
stop
subway?
How
is
it
that
that
fundamental
piece
is
so
so
incorrect
from
both
sides
like
how
do
you
line
that
up
through.
N
F
Would
it
not
make
sense
for
for
both
parties
to
go
back
to
reconcile
that
to
make
sure
that
you're
all
working
we're
all
working
both
City
Council,
as
well
as
my
your
division,
TTC
that
we're
all
working
from
the
same
place?
You
think
the
same
data
there's
no
dispute
and
and
things
don't
things
don't
adjust
as
the
conversation
changes
through.
N
The
speaker,
yes,
we
are
working
to
do
that.
We
are
working
on
a
broader
level
to
ensure
that
the
the
models
that
we
use
in
the
city
and
at
Metro
links
are
aligned
to
the
greatest
degree
possible.
There
are
times
when
Metrolinx
objectives
differ
of
it
from
the
city's
the
city's
objectives,
because
they
are
looking
at
a
broader
perspective,
but
but
we
are
aligning
or
aligning
our
models
and.
F
And
when
will
this
alignment
take
place?
Is
there
a
time
for
a
decision
where
we
we
draw
a
conclusion?
I
mean
because
we're
moving
towards
the
the
stage
gate
process.
We
have
to
make
some
decisions
based
on
the
information.
That's
that's
in
front
of
us
like
real
data
that
everyone
agrees
upon
and
it
sounds
like
you're
still
in
conversation
on
what
the
the
ridership
numbers
may
or
may
not
be,
which
would
be
very
critical
to
determining
where
the
revenues
will
be
coming
from
the
offset.
What
was
going
to
be
a
very
large
expenditure
through.
N
Secondly,
when
I,
when
I
talk
about
we're
still
working
with
them,
it's
we
are
in
conversation
with
Metrolinx,
about
the
update
to
the
business
case
on
the
Lawrence
Station
and
indeed
the
reviews
or
the
updates
to
all
the
business
cases
on
all
the
new
stations
in
the
city
of
Toronto
to
make
sure
that
those
business
cases
reflect
any
changes
in
the
planning
context,
new
developments
or
other
things
that
may
have
an
impact
on
the
performance
of
an
individual
station.
So.
F
I
understand
that
Metrolinx
has
created
a
business
case
for
every
single
station
they've
gone
through
a
series
of
criterias
and
measurements
and
stress
tests
before
making
recommendations
on
locations.
Are
you
using
their
business
case
analysis,
or
are
you
providing
your
own
because
you've
you've
created
your
own
ridership
numbers
based
on
Toronto's
needs?
Are
you
creating
a
Toronto
specific
business
case
analysis
for
those
stations
through.
J
J
As
well
and
I
guess,
maybe
the
deputy
city
manager
I'd
like
him
to
answer
the
question
in
his
response
to
councillor
Matt
Lowe,
he
talked
about
additional
information.
Can
you
give
us
an
understanding
as
to
what
are
those
additional
information
that
is
being
prejudiced
about
to
Metro
links
for
further
consideration
on
the
Kennedy?
Lawrence
are
smart
track
station.
Madam.
M
Speaker
I
would
refer
Council
to
the
attachment
for
on
letter,
October,
26,
Leslie,
wolf
or
myself,
and,
in
particular
onto
page
two,
a
reassessment
of
the
development
sites.
We
didn't
believe
that
Metrolinx
had
fully
considered
the
number
of
sites
that
were
available,
given
what
we've
been
seeing
is
our
development
applications
recently
here
at
the
city,
so
we've
initiated
a
market
assessment
of
those
sites
and
are
feeding
that
into
the
Metro
links
modeling
in
particular,
there
were
a
couple
of
things
that
we
felt
Metrolinx
failed
to
consider.
M
In
their
analysis,
we've
already
discussed
the
lack
of
understanding
that
it's
a
one-stop
subway,
not
a
three-stop
subway
but,
more
importantly,
we
looked
at
the
Laurens
54
Laurens
East
bus
Metrolinx.
It
assumed
a
seven-minute
headway
and
in
fact
today
it's
at
4
minutes
and
we
believe
that
it's
a
actually
in
the
future,
going
to
be
more
like
two
to
four
minutes
headways
on
Lawrence
and
that
integration
of
the
TTC
into
the
model
actually
provides
a
much
more
robust,
ridership
offloading
at
Lawrence
II
station.
M
J
I
would
submit
to
you
this
isn't
unique
or
unusual
in
terms
of
the
preparation
of
these
types
of
report,
when
additional
information
becomes
available,
for
example,
even
if
it
was
at
a
level
where
you
said
that
the
ridership
was
I
guess
for
some
members
of
council
met
their
expectation
and
in
this
particular
case
for
some
it
doesn't
meet
their
expectation.
But
if,
in
fact,
there
was
as
part
of
the
process,
you've
garnered
the
additional
information
you
would
bring
that
forward
for
consideration
for
decision
to
be
made.
Madam.
M
J
In
the
recommendation
II,
it
talks
about
future
development,
north
of
Lawrence
Avenue
I,
don't
see
where
it
states
about
future
development
on
the
east
side
of
the
area.
It
talks
about
north
there's,
a
development
on
the
southeast,
there's
also
development
east
of
Midland
Avenue,
those
some
of
the
additional
information
that
you're
bringing
forward
that
which
is
not
contained
here
in
the
report.
Madam.
M
Speaker,
we
did
sort
of
a
short
form
kind
of
description
of
some
of
the
general
observations
that
we
had
in
each
of
the
stations.
In
this
case,
we
didn't
mention
the
develop
in
north,
but
there
is
much
more
development
around
the
station,
including
to
the
east
that
we
expect
and
have
been
feeding
into
there.
Modeling
right.
J
N
J
N
N
Q
You
minute
speaker
to
the
deputy
city
manager.
Mr.
Libby,
on
appendix
1
has
a
status
of
current
priority
rapid
transit
projects.
There
say
this
is
a
comprehensive
list
of
our
wish
list
for
future
transit.
It's
an
expensive
list
without
actually
having
any
dollar
figures.
We'll
staff
at
some
point
in
time
come
back
with
their
list
of
what
they
feel
are
the
priorities
in
order.
M
Q
N
N
Q
There
might
there
might
be
some
councillors
who
are
who
are
concerned
about
the
even
the
discussion
of
tunneling,
but
has
tunneling
ever
been
examined
by
staff,
and
if
so,
when
was
that
done
and
in
what
context?
Because
I
mean
has
it
been
done?
Lisbon
looked
at
from
Black
Creek,
all
the
way
to
Martin,
Grove
or
us,
or
some
you
know
point
in
between
through.
Q
N
N
Q
B
N
N
The
speaker,
the
the
stations
that
right
now
look
like
they
will
be
most
costly,
involve
some
expansion
of
platforms
on
bridges.
So,
for
example,
the
station
at
East
Harbor
starts
on
the
bridge
that
crosses
the
Don
River
and,
and
that
makes
it
more
expensive
and
there
are
also
bridges
in
the
Gerard,
the
Gerard
area.
There's.
D
N
N
The
through
the
speaker,
we
will
have
good
passenger
pick-up
and
drop-off
facilities
opportunities
at
all
of
the
stations.
What
we
are
referring
to
is
large
scale,
passenger
pick-up
and
drop-off
structures
like
you
might
see
at
Kipling
station
or
other
other
stations,
we're
talking
about
drop-off,
for
people
requiring
accessible
access
and
for
others
dropping
off
passengers.
So
that
will
be
a
part
of
all
station
design.
Your.
D
N
Through
the
speaker
we
I
did
not
say
there
is
no
passenger
pick-up
and
drop-off.
We
will
be
working
to
ensure
that
the
stations
allow
for
good
access
for
people
being
dropped
off
by
car
or
by
wheel
trends.
We
also
are
working
to
make
these
very
well
connected
to
existing
transit
routes,
as
well
as
for
people
to
walk
and
cycle.
We
think
the
key
drivers
of
Trance
of
transit
ridership
at
these
stations
will
be
transit,
local
transit
connections,
as
well
as
people
who
live
and
work
nearby.
Now.
N
A
A
A
J
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
to
staff,
I,
really
appreciate
their
their
their
work
on
this.
However,
I
do
want
to
examine
a
few
items,
especially
when
it
comes
to
smart
track
and
to
things
up
in
my
area.
There's
currently
a
piece
of
property
that
we
own
Shepherd
and
Kennedy.
The
the
goat
station
I'm
sure
you
aware
of
this,
that
we're
trying
to
sell
to
Metro
links
through.
N
N
J
N
J
N
J
N
J
Then
I
guess
I
was
not
in
the
same
room
when
we
had
the
conversation
so
similar
situation
at
Finch
and
Kennedy
for
two
hundred
and
twenty
cars.
What
is
your
estimate
for
us
to
buy,
expropriate
or
obtain
the
land
if
it's
for?
Ninety
cars
is
two
million?
What
are
you
thinking?
It's
going
to
be
four
Finch
in
Kennedy.
M
J
J
J
L
H
J
J
J
J
B
P
Want
to
go
through
some
of
the
timing
issues,
because,
while
we're
looking
at
this
report
today,
there
is
the
issue
of
fair
integration
and
when
you
are
expecting
to
have
something
in
front
of
council
that
we
could
approve.
That
would
approve
of
fair
integration
of
some
kind
between
goal
system
and
the
TTC
system,
and
the
other
one
is
the
timing
for
their
fourth,
rail
or
whatever
it
is
they're
got
to
put
in
in
order
to
accomplish
their
RER.
P
N
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
expansion
of
the
corridor
and
electrification
are
key
parts
of
making
smart
track
and
our
a
our
work.
Fair
integration
we've
had
the
initial
arrangement
coal
fire
arrangement
that
council
has
approved.
We
are
continuing
discussions
with
Metro
links
about
broader,
fair
integration
and
will
be
including
an
update
on
that
in
our
Q
to
2018
report.
So.
P
N
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
construction
on
those
will
take
place
at
over
the
next,
the
next
few
years,
all
to
be
done
by
2025.
My
understanding
is
that
the
that
the
expansion
of
the
corridors
will
happen
first
and
electrification
will
follow.
I,
don't
have
specific
dates
on
those
on
those
right
in
front
of
me,
but
we
can
check
so.
N
Through
the
speaker,
some
work
on
the
Stovall
corridor
north
south
through
through
Scarborough,
is
already
underway
in
terms
of
the
additional
track
being
added
to
that
corridor,
and
then
the
the
environmental
assessments
and
design
work
is
going
on
various
timelines
on
the
other
elements
of
the
expansion.
As
we
come
into
the
heart
of
the
city,
so.
P
N
N
N
P
N
P
N
P
B
G
P
G
P
B
P
N
I
You
speaker
through
you
to
a
planning
staff.
One
of
the
things
in
the
report
mentions
that
and
the
introduction
of
an
LRT
would
eliminate
permissive
left
turns,
and
it
can
I
paraphrase
that
to
say
that
there
would
be
a
dramatic
change
in
the
way
that
traffic
free
flows
along
Eglinton
and
that
they
would
be
held
at
lights
in
order
to
make
these
terms
through.
N
N
Safe
to
say
that
at
the
first
meeting
in
Etobicoke
councillor,
we
had
a
very
angry
crowd,
who
were
wanting
us
to
look
at
tunnelling
and
not
just
grade
separations
but
tunneling.
The
whole
route
right.
The
second
meeting
in
in
Etobicoke
was
significantly
different
and
there
were
a
number
of
participants
there
who
spoke
in
favor
of
a
grades
or
of
a
at
grade
LRT,
and
indeed
our
online
consultations
are
showing
many
more
people,
supportive
of
an
at-grade
LRT
speaking.
I
I
N
I
N
N
I
And
some
of
its
sort
of
interesting
in
here
it
talks
about
the
experience
of
transit
users
and
how
stations
with
vertical
connections
would
have
a
negative
user
experience.
But
the
the
left
turn
restrictions
would
cause
a
negative
road
years.
Your
experience,
would
you
say
in
your
consultations
with
the
community,
they
felt
that
they
were
on
equal
footing
through
the
rapid
transit
evaluation
framework
and
what
I'm
getting
at.
Would
you
say
that
they
felt
that
they
needed
a
stronger
voice
in
putting
their
positions
forward
under
the
rapid
transit
evaluation
framework
through.
N
The
speaker,
we
do
not
wait
the
criteria
when
we
are
when
we
are
undertaking
the
analysis,
but
we
we
do
a
reasoned
balancing
of
all
the
eight
criteria.
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
that
a
number
of
people
did
raise
questions
about
the
weight
that
we
were
giving
to
different
criteria
in
our
evaluation.
Do.
I
You
think
a
working
group
might
give
them
an
opportunity
to
express
or
to
articulate
how
they
feel
about
the
waiting's,
because
we
didn't
really
get
a
chance
to
measure
those.
We
only
looked
at
the
framework.
That's
all
you've
got
to
work
with
and
I
appreciate
that.
Do
you
think
a
working
group
might
might
offer
some
improvements
there.
N
Through
the
speaker,
through
the
stakeholder
advisory
group
we
and
and
all
of
our
stakeholder
advisory
groups,
we
always
review
the
criteria
that
we
are
using
to
evaluate
the
projects
and
get
feedback
on
those.
Certainly
if
we
were
to
go
out
to
a
working
group
again,
I'm
sure
that
they
would
that
they
would
welcome
the
opportunity
to
to
talk
about
the
evaluation
criteria
that
we
use.
Okay,.
I
R
R
Please
don't
in
the
2000
and
2010
election.
Smart
track
was
promised
to
Torontonians.
As
a
22
station,
rapid
transit
network
on
rail
I
was
called
an
aboveground
subway
London
style.
It
was
going
to
be
fully
covered
funded
by
TIF
and
it
was
going
to
be
built
in
seven
years
and
that's
what
then
candidate
John
Tory
said
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
in
fact,
when
one
of
his
leading
opponents
suggested
that
the
western
spur
would
have
problems
I
think
he
called
her
a
debbie
downer
or
something
like
that
and
said.
R
R
Irreconcilable
wasn't
functional
now
he's
suggesting
that
he's
open
to
look
at
tunneling
but
tunneling
light-rail
in
that
area.
That
was
not
hosed
and
all
those
other
promises.
Now
we
know,
aren't
real
we're.
Looking
at
six
stations
now,
there's
wisdom
to
the
idea
of
having
more
localized
stations
within
a
go-go
RER
network
and
I
and
I
support
that
and
I
think
there's
wisdom
there,
but
look
at
Lawrence
East
Lawrence
East.
R
Moreover,
reading
from
attachment
for
the
letter
from
the
DCM
to
Metrolinx
says
that
the
Metro
links
model
assumed
a
go.
Fair
for
all
riders
wishing
to
ride
the
smart
track,
RER
fare
integration
is
a
key
feature
of
smart
track,
has
put
forward
by
the
city
when
assuming
the
updated,
Scarborough
subway
and
a
TTC
fair.
But
later
mr.
Petula
said
that
fair
integration
has
not
been
sorted
out.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
know
that
these
numbers
are
correct
and
therefore
will
be
approved?
We
don't
know
that.
R
We
also
know
that
four
thousand
daily
boardings
is
half
of
what
Lawrence
East
is
today.
So
I
don't
understand
how
reasonably
one
can
conclude
that
there
would
be
necessarily
so
much
more
development
when
we
actually
have
roughly
a
50%
reduction
in
ridership.
That
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
So
we
have
Metrolinx
reviewing
lawrence
east.
We
have
a
Starr
report,
demonstrating
that
Metrolinx
witted
was
advised.
The
board
was
advised
not
to
move
forward
with
it.
R
We
are
assuming
that
we
have
arrived
at
the
end
of
the
stage
aid
process
for
the
one-stop
subway,
but
none
of
that's
happened
and
yet
we're
being
asked
advance
a
proposal
that,
once
again
we
don't
have
relevant
facts.
We
don't
have
basic
information
and
in
fact
we
have
contradicting
facts,
compelling
us
not
to
move
forward
at
this
time.
This
isn't
about
Debbie
downers,
as
John
Tory
called
others.
This
is
simply
just
looking
at
reality
and
making
responsible
decisions
and
ultimately,
smart
tract
I.
Just
want
to
remind
you
all
like
this
is
not.
R
This
is
not
smart
tract.
This
is
six
additional
localized
stops
into
a
go
re,
our
network,
it's
a
good
idea
and
that's
why
I
support
the
concept,
but
let's
do
the
concept
wisely
and
well
and
I'll
pretend
that
it's
something
else
smart
track
was
a
brand
that
was
created
during
election
campaign
that
we've
all
adopted,
I
heard
mr.
Burch
will
use
the
term
Express
subway
to
refer
to
the
the
extension
on
Bloor.
R
S
You
madam
Speaker
I'd
like
to
move
emotion.
It's
an
amendment
to
number
four
of
the
recommendations
seek
house
strike
staff
to
continue
planning,
Eglinton,
West,
LRT
transit
extension
as
a
below-grade
concept,
only
accept
that
the
Eglinton
flats
due
to
existing
flood
plains
and
identify
not
which
was
identified
by
staff
and
then
a
minor
amendment
to
a
which
would
be
up
to
ten
stops.
S
S
We
talk
a
lot
in
this
council
chamber
about
in
in
the
future
about
development
on
the
rise
about
growing
Toronto's
footprint,
internationally
Mitrano
global
and
many
initiatives.
We
do
to
sell
our
city
well
as
we're
doing
that
we
are
growing
the
people
coming
into
Toronto
Nonna's
on
a
significant
rise
and
I.
Think
as
we
are
invest
in
the
future.
As
our
hopes
are
the
punt
an
LRT
into
a
mega
global
hub
airport,
we
need
to
have
reliable,
good
and
I
think
balanced,
transit
here
and
I.
Think
that
is
the
most
important
word
here.
S
I
think
certain
LRT
lines
work
in
the
city
I'm,
not
denying
that
many
bus
routes,
work,
they're,
reliable,
subways
work,
Subway's
go
through
the
vast
majority
of
this
city.
The
very
vast
majority
of
people
in
Toronto
can
connect
to
underground
transit
below
great
transit
and
get
to
and
from
Toronto,
so
I
think
as
we
invest
50
years
out
now
we
want
to
be
investing
responsibly.
I
think
this
is
an
investment.
We
aren't
going
to
look
back
on
or
turn
our
backs
on,
but
I
think
if
we
do
it
the
wrong
way.
S
This
is
the
only
time
we're
gonna
be
doing
it
and
I
think
we
will
be
regretting
it.
If
you
know
the
area,
Ellington
is
already
full
of
congestion.
You
can't
you
can't
get
out
in
there
during
rush
hour.
It's
a
nightmare.
You
also
have
three
major
highways
coming
out
on
the
on
and
off
ramps
onto
egg
links
and
you've
got
a
427
got
the
401.
S
You
got
highway
27,
not
not
only
my
community
uses
to
get
down
into
the
inner
city
suburbs
and
get
across
the
city,
but
you
have
the
905
Mississauga
coming
in
there
as
well.
So
I
think
it's
very
important
to
have
a
balanced
to
doing
this
and,
as
I
said,
I
think
traffic.
So
again,
worse
in
Toronto,
I
think
we
need
to
be
investing
in
infrastructure,
not
works.
Do
we
all
know
that
comes
in
a
price
tag?
Yeah,
absolutely
it
does,
but
what
we
have.
S
What
we
have
heard
is
that
the
federal
government
is
at
the
table
to
invest
in
infrastructure.
Funding.
Name
said
that
the
provincial
government-
we
have
heard
that
so
I
think
that
is
the
best
way
to
move
forward
and
being
a
young
councillor.
I
want
to
be
riding
underground
transit
into
the
city
from
my
community
in
50
years
time.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Oh
you
have
a
question.
Councillor
holiday
three
minutes,
clarification
of
the
motion.
I'll.
I
S
S
S
I
think
the
amendments
are
number
four
that
was
passed.
An
executive
bee
I
left
that
in
there,
because
it's
investigate
further
great
separation.
So,
if
staff
believe
that
not
an
issue,
they
can
come
back
to
us,
it
is
in
the
motion.
Not
they
can
come
back,
but
I
think
our
main
in
10
as
a
city
is
to
invest
in
underground
transit.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
Want
to
clarify,
because
I'm
wondering
if
you're
you're,
clear
and
attachment
to
that
the
10
stops
are
because
it
is
that
great
and
and
I
think
that's
pretty
clearly
outlined
there.
So
if
you're
asking
you're
asking
that
that
we
remove
to
be
only
underground
up
to
ten
stops
that
you're
in
fact
going
to
be
nowhere
near
ten
stops
well.
S
I
think
that's
why
we're
given
the
lean
way,
I
hope
that
if
we
did
invest
in
underground
transit
councillor
not
me
make
a
significant
investment,
but
we
do
understand
that
the
reality
is.
Is
that
ten
stops
underground
could
be
a
massive
price
tag,
so
I
think
it's
just
giving
some
leeway
to
look
at
options
of
looking
at
that
number.
It
is
up
to.
It
should
be
nine,
it
could
be
eight.
It
could
be
ten,
then
I'm,
just
giving
a
little
more
flexibility
on
that
I'm.
E
Also
mindful
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
purpose
of
your
roads
because
I'm
mindful
of
your
remarks,
you
know
how
desperate
the
traffic
situation
is
and
and
that,
given
that
what
you're
describing
is
a
very
suburban
area,
not
unlike
my
own,
that
that
the
world
wide
understanding
is,
if
you
have
more
stops
and
an
at-grade
rail
that
you
convert
more
people
from
cars,
if
that
stop
is
close
to
them,
it's
the
Melbourne
experience.
If
they're
closer
to
that
stop,
you
convert
farmer
car
drivers
over
to
transit
riders.
E
That's
dealing
with
your
traffic
situations
simply
by
converting
drivers
to
riders
that
you
that
you
ameliorate
your
traffic
situation,
far
more
effectively.
I
think
that's
it's
mentioned
without
mentioning
actual
locations
in
the
report.
Does
your
motion?
Does
your
motion
understand
and
contemplate
that
absolutely.
S
I
think
counselor
I
think
the
reality
there
is
that
we
just
don't
have
right
of
way.
You
know
our
children
right
away
going
across
here.
I
think
we
have.
The
reality
is
is
that
we
have
highways
coming
on
to
Eglinton,
which
we
always
have
to
keep
be
mindful
that
in
9:05,
Mississauga
and
I
think
that
how
I
mean
underground
transit
will
move
a
balanced
approach
that
we
are
moving
cars
across
our
city,
you're
not
trying
to
reduce
tonight
may
I
may
I
finish.
S
I,
understand,
I,
think
it's
a
balance
and
having
Underground
higher
order,
transit
I'm,
not
saying
you
will
have
less
docks
by.
If
what
you're
saying
is
true,
that
we
will
have
less
stops,
I
think
underground,
transit,
I
think
this
is
statistically
proven
and
I
have
seen
that
myself.
It
moves
faster,
so
you
may
not
have
many
stops,
as
you
say,
I'm,
not
saying
that
I'm
keeping
an
open
to
my
motion,
but
you
are
moving
across
the
city
quicker,
so
so.
S
D
S
S
As
you've
seen
in
the
report
counselor
that
there
are
a
few
scenarios
that
don't
work
and
that
cannot
work,
do
you
do
you
know
flood
plains
or
grading
issues,
I,
respect
that
that's?
Why,
in
this
motion
staff
right
in
he
could
come
back?
It
says
further
great
separation
and
tunneling
and
I
think
I.
Think
where
possible,
we
need
to
be
investing
the
underground
and
below
grade
now.
S
D
S
Speaker
I'm
happy
to
answer
the
question
I
have
sent
at
multiple
times,
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
investing
in
bloggers
in
transit.
Having
said
that,
I
am
aware
that
there
are
a
few
situations
where
that
cannot
be
done.
So
I
think
the
amendment
that
was
made
on
executive
to
investigate
further
grade
separation,
you
can
still
dimension.
Thank
you.