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City Council, meeting 35, December 6, 2017 - Part 1 of 2
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F
H
J
A
B
Friends
18
years
ago-
and
you
just
heard
their
names
14
women
were
murdered
in
Montreal
because
they're
women
today
as
a
city,
we
remember
those
who
we've
lost
over
the
years
to
violence
against
women
and
we
commit
together
all
of
us,
but
especially
us
men,
to
ensuring
that
we
never
let
it
happen
again.
We
wear
the
white
ribbon
and
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
Kate
from
the
white
ribbon
campaign.
B
Here
today
we
wear
the
white
ribbon
today
as
men,
because
we
know
that
violence
permeates
our
society
every
day
in
every
way
and
at
the
most
extreme
form
it
is
deadly
violence,
but
in
our
homes
and
our
workplaces,
through
the
me
to
movement
that
we've
seen,
we
know
that
we
all
every
single
one
of
us
as
men,
can
do
more
at
all
times
to
call
out
violence,
always
councilor.
Lady
Thank.
K
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
and
colleagues
I
I
woke
up
this
morning,
as
many
of
you
did
to
to
the
cries
of
my
my
eldest
daughter,
Phoebe.
She
had
a
cold,
so
she
woke
up
very
early
this
morning
and
I
went
to
her
and
she
wanted
my
company
for
something
as
as
as
insignificant
as
that
cold
and
when
I
think
about,
and
when
I
heard
on
the
radio
the
names
being
read.
K
It
struck
me
of
the
world
that
I
grew
up
in
a
world
where
a
man
could
walk
in
to
a
school,
separate
the
men
from
the
women
and
shoot
and
kill
14
daughters,
and
just
how
sad
that
makes
me
feel
and
just
how
afraid,
just
how
ashamed
as
a
man
that
that
could
happen
and
all
of
the
times
that
words
were
uttered,
that
inequality
was
done
and
that
I
didn't
do
anything
I'm,
not
gonna.
Let
that
happen
ever
again.
K
I
hope
you'll
join
me
with
that,
because
for
those
fourteen
women
there
are
millions
of
women
worldwide
that
are
killed
by
their
partners,
they're
supposed
to
be
their
loved
ones
by
their
partners
or
by
others,
because
they're
women
and
there
are
billions
of
women
in
this
world
that
are
systemically
and
consistently
treated
differently,
because
they're
women
and
we
as
men
and
we
as
society,
can
do
something
about
that,
and
we
must,
and
on
this
day
of
remembrance,
an
action
against
violence
against
women.
Let
us
reconfirm
our
commitment
to
ending
that
cycle.
K
I
just
want
to
say
one
more
thing,
because
the
the
the
movement
that's
happened.
More
recently
has
given
us
a
cause
for
hope,
because
it
shows
the
strength
and
bravery
of
women
that
is
passed
on
it's
contagious.
It
goes
to
others
to
speak
out.
This
is
the
me2
movement,
it's
being
recognized
worldwide,
most
recently
by
Time
magazine
who
have
chosen
to
choose
those
brave
women
and
show
them
as
an
example
for
what
others
could
be.
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker.
F
Would
something
I
hope
that
it's
a
lot
more
cheerful
than
that?
That
is
very
important
issue
and
I'm
glad
we
could
deal
with
that
as
a
council.
But
my
apologies
to
my
colleagues
I
couldn't
be
here
yesterday
morning
for
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
as
I
was
at
the
last
meeting
of
Bill
Toronto,
our
board
of
directors,
and
we
couldn't
shift
it
when
the
council
date
was
added.
So
we
went
there
so
I
wanted
to
one
talk
about
affordable
housing
on
the
agenda.
F
F
So
yesterday,
at
our
meeting
we
have
five
sites
and
five
different
wards
and
from
those
five
sites
there
is
340,
affordable
housing
units
going
to
be
built
on
former
city
land.
We've
really
turned
the
corner
and
what
we're
doing
to
bring
forward
redevelopment
on
old
city
sites,
whether
the
world
quarrys
are
contaminated,
lands
up
in
the
counselor
or
palacios
area,
which
he's
worked
on
for
years
at
old,
rests
and
Road
and
st.
Clair
or
out
in
Victoria
Park,
where
we
had,
as
I
said,
the
old
quarry,
our
others
five
different
sites.
F
We
are
earning
revenue
on
each
of
those
making
a
profit
and
I
think
is,
you
might
have
noticed
from
Cal
Suraj
Ameri
and
coming
out
to
an
opening.
We
actually
built
a
Plaza,
which
is
something
unique
in
the
city
that
we
now
are
operating
and
will
actually
be
selling
that,
because
we're
not
operating
the
plaza
but
we've
been
able
to
earn
money
on
it,
so
build
Toronto
has
come
forward
with
the
Board
of
Directors.
That's
there
with
my
colleagues
councillor
de
Cheon,
oh
and.
F
Councillor
Thompson
on
the
board
and
really
taken
to
heart
that
every
application
has
to
have
affordable
housing
has
to
have
community
benefits,
has
to
have
a
buy-in
from
the
community
shouldn't
be
appealed
to
in
Cheerilee
in
this
board
should
have
good
development
on
it
and
they
have
done
what
I
would
say
is
a
stellar
job,
but
it
was
their
last
meeting
so
on
behalf
of
all
of
Council
I.
Thank
them
there.
But
here
I
would
like
to
thank
the
board.
F
L
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
good
morning.
Everyone
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
great
city
staff
as
usual,
hard-working
staff,
who
received
an
award
yesterday
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
Toronto
for
as
solar
developer
of
the
year,
so
the
Canadians.
This
is
from
the
canadian
solar
industries
at
their
annual
conference.
So
our
renewable
energy
office
within
the
Energy
and
Environment
Department,
in
partnership
with
Toronto
Hydro,
has
over
a
hundred
solar,
photovoltaic
installations,
completed
or
under
construction
in
and
around
the
city
on
roofs
of
our
city
buildings
in
40
wards.
L
So
it's
a
win-win
and
there
are
more
plans
for
underway
for
more
projects
on
solar
farms,
on
our
parking
lots
and
another
City
land,
and
it's
all
part
of
our
transform
tío
goal
and
target
for
to
produce
24
mega
watts
of
renewable
energy
by
2020.
And
we
all
endorsed
that
plan
unanimously
and
I
know
we're
going
to
look
forward
to
funding
that
in
the
budget.
But
I
would
just
like
our
Office
of
Energy
and
Environment
to
stand
up.
Jim
Baxter,
Rob
Maxwell
as
anyone
else
here
they
behind
us.
D
Bella,
thank
you.
I'm
gonna
be
very
brief.
Madam
Speaker,
but
I
thought
that,
after
that
speech
from
councillor,
shiner
I
should
acknowledge
the
work
that
councillor
shiner
has
done
as
chair
of
build
and
I
know
that
he
pushes
hard
the
board
and
he's
always
looking
out
for
the
affordable
housing
file
and
also
thank
all
the
board
members.
But
I
know
that
there
has
been
a
huge
shift
and
is
absolutely
right.
Even
though,
in
this
agenda
we
do
have
funding
for
several
supportive
housing
and
funding
for
some
affordable
ownership
homes.
D
We
need
to
see
more
of
the
applications
coming
forward
with
already
inclusion
with
the
affordable
housing
included
in
it.
So
I
know
that
councillor
shiner
every
every
meeting
as
chair
of
plan
and
calls
out
our
attention
for
that.
But
and
it
is
important
we
need
to
do
all
of
us
a
better
job
and,
of
course,
the
the
once
that
the
legislation
is
passed
for
inclusionary
zoning.
D
That
will
give
us
a
lot
more
leverage
to
work
with
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
up
and
acknowledge
the
work
that
councillor
Shriner
has
done
as
chair
of
build
and
thank
him
for
all
the
hard
work
and
thank
all
the
board
members
here,
our
colleagues
as
well
that
sit
on
that
board,
because
it's
made
a
tremendous
difference
in
the
last
few
years,
what
we've
done
by
using
our
land
and
leverage
our
land
to
create
more
affordability
in
our
city.
Thank
you.
A
Members
of
council,
we
will
now
review
and
confirm
the
order
paper
to
this
point.
Councillors
completed
106
items.
There
are
73
items
left
on
the
agenda
plus
36
member
motions
council
has
decided
to
consider
the
following
items
as
the
first
items
of
business.
This
morning,
CD
24.7
on
the
2018,
shelter
infrastructure
plan
and
progress
report
and
au
10.7
on
the
2018
audit
work
plan
and
GM
20
3.16
on
the
expropriation
of
1269
Danforth
Road
Scarborough,
subway
extension,
City
Council
will
consider
item
me,
acts
29
point
36
at
2
p.m.
A
that
item
will
be
followed
by
member
motions.
Member
City
Council
had
previously
decided
to
consider
item
II,
X
29
point
10
on
enhanced
security
measures
at
Trenton.
Toronto
City
Hall
was
the
third
item
of
business
yesterday,
but
did
not
begin
that
debate.
Council
would
deal
with
that
item
later
in
the
meeting.
I
would
now
take
the
release
of
member
holz.
F
A
F
H
G
A
F
Speaker
I
had
also
held
on
page
8
planning
and
growth
item
20
4.1,
to
request
for
directions
on
the
official
plan
amendment
to
PA,
that's
policies
to
implement
a
development
permit
system;
I,
don't
know
if
any
members
of
council
have
any
issues
on
it
or
not.
So
if
they
do
on
it
just
advanced,
maybe
we
can
work
that
out.
Okay,.
A
B
B
Percent
last
night,
so
explain
to
me,
and
so
we
have
been
seeking
to
increase
capacity.
Meanwhile,
the
the
our
occupancy
rate
has
not
been
going
down.
What
do
we
attribute
that
to
is
that
rising
inequality?
Is
that
a
regional
issue?
Where
is
this?
What
why
are
we
not
able
to
deal
with
the
increasing
occupancy
numbers
through.
J
The
speaker
so
as
I
look
back
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
we
we
have
been
sitting
around
that
95
percent
occupancy.
We
started
to
see
a
fairly
sharp
upturn
in
the
demands
in
the
system
and
the
the
first
piece
of
that
was
a
refugee
inflow,
so
that
increased
from
about
10
percent
back
in
2016
to
about
25
percent
in
2017.
J
B
I
mean
a
variety
of
fact,
so
I
heard
there
so
general
affordability,
issues
related
to
inequality
related
to
the
housing
markets,
some
pressures
and
some
of
the
specific
areas
related
to
global
instability
and
an
influx
of
refugees.
But
so,
given
that
demand
is
increasing
and
we're
having
a
hard
time,
dropping
the
occupancy
rate
from
your
assessment.
How
many
new
permanent
beds
do
we
need
this
year
and
next
year,
so
that
we
are
not
over
capacity
through.
J
The
chair
so
I
think
that's
a
very
difficult
number
to
estimate
since
I
started
in
the
program
we've
added
about
a
thousand
beds
into
the
system
over
the
last
12
months
or
14
months.
It's
about
actually
1,400
beds
and
we
we
did
that
fairly
aggressively.
We
overspent
our
budget
this
year
by
10
million
dollars
doing
that,
and
we
thought
that,
while
we
were
doing
that,
the
occupancy
level
would
decrease.
We
have
not
seen
that
reduction.
J
So
with
that
in
mind,
we
have
been
developing
a
plan
to
increase
the
capacity,
but
I
can't
give
you
a
fixed
number
that
would
bring
that
down.
It
will
depend
on
the
affordability
issues,
the
vacancy
rate,
the
instability
that
you
had
talked
about
globally.
All
of
those
pieces
together
in
previous
years.
We've
seen
this
a
couple
of
times
and
we
did
see
those
numbers
go
back
down,
but
it
is
very
hard
to
predict
going
forward
so.
B
J
J
B
J
So
the
immediate
options
would
be
motels
and
then
spaces
within
the
sixty
to
shelter,
shelters
that
are
out
in
the
system.
We
had
just
worked
through
a
third-party
consultant
to
do
a
space
audit
to
understand
available
space
out
in
the
shelter
system,
and
so
we
would
be
working
with
providers
within
those
shelters
standards
to
identify
some
immediate
spaces
to
utilize
Casa.
A
H
H
H
J
The
chair
so
I
think
to
be
clear.
The
Armory's
has
always
been
an
option.
The
city
has
used
it
in
the
past.
However,
it
is,
it
would
not
be
the
number
one
option
to
move
forward.
There
are
a
few
reasons
for
this
operationally
and
also
from
a
real
estate
perspective.
From
an
operational
perspective,
it
is
an
active
military
installation,
so
there
are
security
challenges
associated
with
that
location
that
other
locations
maybe
do
not
have.
There
is
an
active
workforce
at
those
facilities.
J
Operational
challenges
are
the
mixing
of
the
actual
workforce
with
our
clients
in
the
day
to
day
operation,
then
there
are
also
some
cost
considerations.
So
as
we
look
back
to
2004,
the
per
diem
curse
base
at
the
Armory's
was
$208
per
space,
and
our
per
diem
today
would
be
about
a
hundred
and
five
dollars.
The
Department
of
Defense
was
also
charging
a
rent
of
about
forty
two
hundred
dollars
a
day
for
the
use
of
that
facility.
Okay,.
H
When,
when
someone
arrives
at
at
a
shelter
or
a
drop-
and
let's
say
a
shelter
for
for
the
overnight
stay,
and
there
was
no
room
at
that
specific
location,
what
is
the
responsibility
of
staff
at
that?
At
that
point?
Do
they
know
where
there's
capacity
at
a
nearby
shelter?
Do
they
just
say
goodbye
and
good
luck?
What
what
is
the
plan?
What
is
our
policy
so.
J
There
are,
there
are
policies
and
procedures
in
place
staff
both
in
the
purchase
of
service,
as
well
as
in
the
city
operated
shelters,
are
to
look
for
an
available
space
for
the
individual
within
the
system
and
then
provide
them
the
opportunity
to
get
to
that
available
space.
And
if
there
wasn't
an
available
location
within
the
system,
then
they
would
be
referred
to
Peter
Street,
the
respite
center
on
Peter
Street.
H
So
it
seems
that
our
our
shelter
system
is
under
a
number
of
different
strains.
I
mean
one
is
federal
immigration
policy
or
our
immigration
system,
where
new
arrivals
newcomers
are
unable
to
find
adequate
shelter,
an
asylum
problem
from
south
of
the
border
and
the
chaotic
immigration
policy
that's
emerging
out
of
the
United
States
can.
Can
we
cite
those
two
issues
as
well
as
as
well
as
I
guess,
rising,
expensive
housing
and
shelter,
as
as
factors
for
why
we're
under
such
strain.
H
M
N
The
the
reason
this
power
is
given
to
a
small
group
of
people
to
deal
with
outside
of
the
council
process
is
that
an
emergency
is
is
not
just
an
important
and
urgent
issue
which
clearly
this
one
is,
but
the
definition
of
emergency
includes
matters
which
which
are
things
like
natural
disasters,
disease
accidents,
things
that
need
to
be
dealt
with
so
quickly
that
they
really
can't
be
dealt
with
through
the
council
process.
They're,
not
long-term
systemic
social
and
economic
problems
per
se.
N
M
J
M
J
M
J
C
M
J
The
chair
there
they,
these
motel
rooms,
are
considered
a
temporary
solution
in
terms
of
moving
towards
built
building
a
new
facility.
It
is
more
expensive
on
a
per
day
basis,
but
you
have
to
factor
in
you.
You
would
not
have
the
staffing
and
you
don't
have
the
infrastructure
costs
that
the
city
would
be
carrying.
Also
thank.
K
K
K
J
K
K
K
J
J
J
J
K
I'm
reading,
through
the
motion
that
was
circulated
earlier
and
while
I
see
there's
space
to
support
or
there's
a
recommendation
to
support
new
24-hour
drop
ins,
I
don't
see
any
requests
to
support
existing
programs
that
are
currently
running
over
capacity.
It
is
am
I
missing,
something
like
maybe
it's
in
here
we
were
just
delivered
it
and
it's
quite
lengthy,
am
I
missing
something
that
council
is
being
and
instructing
you
to
go
and
provide
resources,
additional
resources
to
existing
drop-in.
Or
is
that
not
in
this
through.
J
B
She
pointed
out
that
an
increasing
number
of
shelter,
occupants
or
shelter
users
are
staying
for
extended
stays
in
the
shelters
eight
months
nine
months
and
a
year.
Can
you
can
you
outline
for
us
the
extent
of
that
problem
and
and
and
sort
of
like
the?
What
that?
How
that
affects
the
capacity
of
the
shelters
through.
J
The
chair,
so
in
terms
of
reviewing
the
existing
data,
which
I
would
say
is,
is
insufficient.
What
I
can
tell
you
is
about
60%
of
our
bed.
Nights
are
used
up
by
about
10%
of
our
clients
because
of
long-term
stays
in
the
shelter
system,
and
this
would
be
related
to
the
lack
of
the
availability
of
supportive
housing
out
in
the
community
to
be
able
to
move
some
of
those
individuals
out
into
the
system.
J
B
Ok,
so
we've
you
said:
60
percent
of
the
bed
nights
are
occupied
by
10
percent
of
the
residents
of
the
people.
Do
what's
the
situation
in
other
neighboring,
municipalities
and
and
have
is?
Is
there
a
possibility
for
us
to
work
with
other
municipalities
to
provide
space
for
people
comfortable
shelter,
space
for
people
through.
J
B
J
B
A
N
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
just
want
to
ask
a
few
questions
on
the
the
motels
that
we've
had
a
few
questions
on
that.
So
it's
correct
me
too
I
think
councillor
Layton,
you
mention
with
counsel
meant,
there's
1300
motel
rooms
that
were
utilizing
presently
across
the
city
through
the
chair,
that's
correct,
okay,
and
and
what
was
that
at
just
to
correct
what
was
that,
like
five
years
ago?
It's
it's
been
steadily
increasing.
J
N
N
J
N
N
With
regard,
my
ward
and
I
think
a
number
of
wards
out
in
Scarborough
long
Kingston
Road
there
quite
a
few
motels.
So
can
you
let
me
know:
I
mean
where
we
are
presently.
Do
we
utilize
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
motels
out
there
and
there's
a
I
think
a
misconception
that
we're
using
a
lot
of
these
motel
rooms
for
for
shelters.
So
can
you
maybe
describe
how
we
utilize
the
motels
along
the
Kingston
strip?
If
you
have
some
of
that
information.
J
J
A
O
J
O
J
J
O
O
H
O
O
Uploading
to
the
province,
and
it
was
felt
that
it
wasn't
required
at
the
time
so
has-
and
this
may
not
be
to
you,
but
has
the
situation
in
terms
of
the
the
number
of
people
come
in
to
try
has
something
in
a
material
way
changed
in
terms
of
the
services
were
we're
offering
visa
V,
other
municipalities
or
the
number
of
homelessness
homeless
people
has
that
actually
gone
down.
That
would
then
justify
this
pulling
of
a
hundred
and
thirty
million
dollars
from
the
pooling
fund.
J
O
J
J
O
D
I
G
Madam
Speaker
I
want
to
clarify
the
question
around
the
Armory's
as
we're
hearing
from
activists
and
service
providers
and
people
living
on
our
streets
who
are
demanding
that
we
approach
the
government
and
we
we
figure
that
out.
As
you
know,
mayors
and
councils
have
done
before
us
and
I've
heard
today
that
there
are
significant
concerns
and
sincere
concerns
from
staff
about
going
in
that
direction.
G
B
B
B
G
B
G
G
Is
what
I'm
just
I'm
confused
about
something,
though,
for
for
a
long
time
now,
we've
been
hearing
from
people
who
who
worked
with
our
shelters,
who
are
actively
advocating,
on
behalf
of
our
homeless,
asking
us
to
engage
the
Government
of
Canada
on
the
Armory's
and
you're
saying
that
we've
only
reached
out
them
in
the
last
two
days,
and
now
we've
already
come
to
the
conclusion
that
it
won't
work.
Could
you
could
you
expand
on
your
your
rationale
and
your
answer
so.
G
If
you've,
only
with
all
due
respect,
if
you've
only
reached
out
to
the
government
in
in
the
last
two
days
and
I
I,
imagine
that
there
hasn't
been
I
mean
unless,
unless
I'm
wrong,
you
know
a
lot
of
conversation
or
meetings
over
or
you
know.
How
can
you
conclusively
say
that
the
Armory's
won't
work?
I,
understand
that
you
already?
You
have
reservations,
you
have
concerns.
G
They
may
well
be
substantive,
but
but
I'm
asking
more
about
due
diligence
to
given
that
there's
such
a
demand
from
people
who
care
so
deeply
and
strongly
believe
that
it
is
the
answer.
Would
it
not
be
reasonable
to
demonstrate
them
either
it
can
happen
or
conclusively
it
can't,
and
we've
done
the
due
diligence
and
I
just
haven't
I
haven't
seen
that
yet
so
through.
J
The
chair,
the
Armory's,
is
always
an
option.
It
has
been
used
in
the
past
staff,
brought
forward
a
report
to
see
DNR
back
in
June
that
went
forward
to
the
July
council
staff
were
authorized
and
directed
to
find
five
winter
respite
sites.
We
worked
with
our
colleagues
in
real
estate
and
other
colleagues
in
the
city
to
identify
and
find
those
five
sites.
We
did
that
successfully.
J
Those
sites
were
deemed
to
be
more
appropriate
because
they're
vacant
did
not
have
existing
workforces
in
them
did
not
have
the
security
issues
did
not
have
the
cost
associated
with
them,
which
is
why
we
moved
forward
with
those
five
sites.
Now
that
we
are
have
opened
four
of
them
and
one
is
coming
online.
We've
identified
that
there
continues
to
be
that
demand
and
we
continue
to
look
at
other
options.
G
G
It
is
an
option
to
do
genuine
due
diligence
to
be
able
to
conclusively
determine
even
to
look
at
your
concerns,
which
may
be
valid
I'm,
not
questioning
them,
but
look
at
those
concerns
with
with
defense
and
arrive
at
a
conclusion
that
you
can
share
with
the
community
and
counsel
about
whether
or
not
it
really
can
or
cannot.
Okay,.
D
J
I
I
J
J
I
J
I
I
P
J
P
I
understand:
we've
got
some
policies
here,
particular
particularly
about
the
provision
of
services
without
identity,
identity
or
documentation.
In
your
estimation,
do
you
find
that
the
vast
vast
majority
of
people
are
positively
identified
and
positively
matched
with
records
in
the
system,
or
do
we
have
some
gaps
here?
I
know:
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
data
and
I
just
want
to
understand
how
confident
we
are
in
the
data
about
doing
that
match.
J
P
Any
ideas
coming
forward
that
I
don't
know
biometrics
or
some
way
so
that
you
don't
ask
somebody
to
carry
an
identity
card
and
understanding
that
somebody
may
refuse
to
identify
themself.
Those
are
the
rules
that
we
have
but
I'd
like
to
see.
If
there's
a
way
to
make
it
easier
for
clients
to
to
help
us
help
them
by
keeping
track
of
where
they
came
from
and
where
they're
going
so
that
we
can
have
a
better
system.
J
Through
the
chair,
so
this
is
a
very
sensitive
and
important
issue.
We're
looking
at
what
other
communities
have
done,
but
I
think
it's
very,
very
important
to
engage
the
Toronto,
Alliance
and
homelessness
and
to
better
understand
how
we
could
do
that.
Given
the
sensitive
nature
of
the
issue.
Okay,.
P
I'm
interested
a
little
bit
about
the
rules
and
how
it
works.
If
an
individual
and
I
understand
the
families
you
mentioned,
75%
of
motel
rooms
are
directed
towards
families
and
and
units
of
people
together.
But
when
an
individual
comes,
are
they
do
they
move
into
a
shelter?
Do
they
bring
their
belongings?
Do
they
leave
the
belongings
overnight
and
during
the
day,
essentially
move
into
a
space,
and
you
talked
about
10%
of
clients
stay
on
long
term
or
do
they
kind
of
check
out
each
night?
P
J
P
P
J
P
Or
a
spouse
or
a
partner
or
anybody
else
that
is
going
through
a
difficult
period.
There
may
be
reasons
they
want
to
go,
but
is
it
fair
to
say
that
the
vast
vast
majority
of
shelter
users
are
people
that
are
there
every
night
each
night
in
their
beds,
or
do
we
have
a
fair
amount
of
these?
These
gaps
where
people
come
and
go
and
and
leave
empty
spaces.
A
P
J
So,
as
identified
earlier,
there
are
long-term
stairs
in
the
system.
We
see
about.
16,000
individuals
go
through
the
shelter
system
every
year
and
two-thirds
of
those
come
through
once
for
a
short
period
of
time,
average
of
about
three
months,
they're
reintegrated,
and
we
don't
see
them
again.
Thank.
A
J
R
J
L
J
A
C
J
C
J
J
C
J
C
Increase
at
the
previous
council
meeting
we
were
discussing
the
addition.
I
think
it
was
the
previous
one.
It
might
have
been
two
meetings
ago.
The
addition
of
affordable
housing
units
to
the
city's
supply
and
I
made
the
point
and
city
staff
acknowledged
it
and
I
just
wanted,
but
we
didn't
get
it
on
the
record.
Is
it
not
the
case
and
I?
Don't
know
who
would
answer
this,
that
we
are
losing
rental
units
at
the
bottom
end
of
the
market
faster
than
we're
building
them
I.
Think
mr.
Gavin
nodded
his
head.
J
Through
through
the
chair,
l
attempt
to
provide
an
answer,
certainly
not
my
expertise,
and
it
totally
would
see
where
you
know
we're
receiving
quite
a
bit
of
pressure
on
the
rooming
house
issue
in
the
loss
of
the
rooming
houses
and
low
end
of
market.
The
availability
of
low
end
of
market
space
and
given.
C
J
J
S
B
So
that's
a
difficult
through
the
through
you,
madam
speaker,
that's
a
difficult
question
to
answer,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
the
process
that
we've
been
using
over
the
past
year
to
identify
potential
properties
for
for
these
purposes,
so
so
we've
been
again
focused
on
city-owned
properties.
We
have
about
2000
that
we're
currently
crawling
through.
We
have
identified
200
properties
that
are
currently
vacant.
That's
the
first
cut
of
analysis
beyond
that.
There's
potential
in
about
fifteen
hundred
properties,
colocation
opportunities
and
then
beyond.
B
Beyond
that
there
are
several
opportunities
where
the
the
the
the
city
leases
out
space
to
community
groups.
So
there
could
be
potential
opportunity
there.
Beyond
that,
we've
undertaken
efforts
to
to
go
to
market
looking
at
the
lease
opportunities
for
leased
space
or
lease
in
space
for
for
these
purposes,
as
well
as
acquisition
of
new
properties,
but.
S
S
J
S
There
any
way
to
expedite
those
that's
construction
and
get
them
open
earlier,
because
we
don't
only
look
for
shelter
beds
in
winter.
We
also
look
for
shelter
beds
in
summer
and
because
I
know,
at
least
one
of
these
is
going
to
be
a
24-hour
shelter.
It's
not
a
shelter
where
someone
has
to
leave
in
the
morning
and
come
back
in
the
evening.
It
will
be
providing
the
services
to
help.
This
will
be
men
that
leg
up
to
get
them
out
of
a
system.
So
is
there
any
way
to
speed
these
up
through.
J
S
R
Thank
you,
Thank
You,
speaker,
I,
just
wanted
to
go
over
and
apologize
for
having
my
back
directly
to
you,
mr.
artist,
just
to
go
over
the
issue
of
the
federal
government
and
they
do
have.
The
Armory's
technically
does
belong
to
the
federal
government.
Correct
through
the
chair.
That's
correct,
I,
just
councillor
Burnside
had
brought
out
some
very
good
information
there
regarding
the
15%
increase
in
refugees
that
are
looking
for
shelter
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
But
did
he
get
that?
That
was
what
I
heard
you
tell
him
I
just
corroborating
that
through.
R
R
True
overall,
thank
you
in
terms
of
our
budget
and
so
I'm
just
wondering.
Obviously,
the
Armory's
is
a
federal
building
and
is
owned
by
the
federal
government.
Have
any
idea
how
large
that
site,
not
the
building
but
the
whole
site
through
the
chair,
I
do
not
so
that
probably
is
about
three
or
four
acres.
Maybe
three
I
don't
know
it'd,
be
very
interesting
to
know
the
actual
size
and
has
your
staff
or
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
in
to
see
just
how
many
other
federal
buildings
there
are
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
B
R
You
haven't
had
a
chance
to
review
if
there
are
federal
buildings
and
other
places.
Like
certain
I
know.
In
the
past,
there's
been
post
offices
that
they've
sold
there's
things
that
they're
surplus
and
selling.
Where
would
that
list
be
available
that
you
could
find
that
out
quickly?
As
far
as
what
buildings
are
up
for
surplus
that
the
federal
government
owns.
B
Through
you,
madam
Speaker
I
think
I'm
correct
in
saying
that
we
would
beyond
it
as
the
city
we
would
beyond
distribution
for
any
surplus
properties
by
the
federal
government.
I
do
want
to
add,
though,
that
we
have
had
conversations
ongoing
with
the
province
for
the
good
part
of
this
year
between
the
deputy
city
manager
and
the
president
of
real
estate
at
infrastructure
Ontario.
So.
R
If
I
was
to
ask
to
provide
us
a
letter
of
the
buildings
that
are
up
for
surplus
or
have
been
moved
off
to
the
corner
and
then
to
surplus
from
both
the
province
and
the
federal
government,
you
could
provide
that
we
have
our
lists.
We
know
exactly
at
what
stage
any
of
our
properties
are
at,
but
I
think
we're
unclear
as
to
where
their
properties
are
at
would
I
be
right.
R
B
A
D
J
T
N
J
F
J
T
T
J
D
J
J
D
Okay,
that
doesn't
add
up
for
me,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
the
other
thing
that
I'm
struggling
with
is
to
understand
what
you
recommended
and
what
is
before
us
in
the
motion
from
councilman
havoc
I
didn't
see
you
recommending
that
we
should
be
expanding
the
use
of
existing
shelters.
Did
you
recommend
that
through.
J
D
J
The
chair,
so
the
proposal
is
to
we
went
forward
with
a
space
audit
of
all
62
shelter
sites
in
the
last
number
of
months.
The
proposal
is
to
take
that
space
audit
to
sit
down
with
all
of
the
providers
and
identify
any
space
working
within
shelter
standards
that
would
be
available.
The
space
audit
identifies
that
there
are
additional
capacity
out
there
in
some
of
the
buildings
and
certainly
not
all
so.
D
J
J
Through
the
chair
that
we
do
not
have
a
final
report
on
the
space
audit,
we
would
not
simply
take
the
space
audit
as
gospel
and
say,
put
put
beds
in
these
locations.
It
would
require
us
to
go
out
and
work
with
the
provider
to
make
sure
that
there
is
proper
space
within
those
shelter
standards
to
do
that,
we
would
not
be
cramming
people
in
and
outside
of
those
of
the
space
standards.
J
J
D
A
C
C
J
J
J
D
J
J
It
is
difficult
to
predict
if
the
400
beds
will
change
that
occupancy,
because
we
felt
that
adding
the
1,400
beds
in
the
last
twelve
or
fourteen
months
would
have
changed
that
occupancy
rate,
and
it
did
not.
So
we
would
definitely
come
forward
to
Council
with
a
proposed
multi-year
strategy
going
forward
in
the
future.
It's
one
of
my
goals
do.
D
J
The
chair
two
answers
to
that.
We
would
be
coming
back
with
a
full
review
of
this
winter
in
the
second
quarter
of
2018.
We've
committed
to
doing
that.
We
committed
to
doing
that
in
July
when
we
had
when
we
were
directed
to
open
the
five
winter
respite
sites,
and
we
would
also
be
bringing
forward
a
multi-year
plan
to
the
2019
budget.
Okay,.
D
J
D
J
A
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker.
A
question
to
staff
regarding
the
number
of
hotel
beds
that
are
being
used.
1300
is
the
number
that's
being
reported
today
and
with
the
proposal
from
counselor
Matt
havoc
that
we
open
up
400
additional
new
facilities,
how
many
new,
how
many
new
additional
hotel
rooms
will
you
be
booking
to
get
to
that
400
number.
Can
you
give
me
a
combination
through.
Q
Yes,
so
it
would
just
go
up
by
additional
200
200
400.
On
page
17,
you
I,
you
itemized,
that
there'll
be
one
two
three,
four
five,
six
new
facilities
opening
up
correct
and
for
the
upcoming
year
this
is
homes;
first
Salvation
Army,
Youthlink,
City
of
Toronto
birch,
Mount
residents,
City
of
Toronto,
a
temporary
residence
on
rummy
Runnymede,
as
well
as
ygal
of
six
new
facilities
through.
Q
J
Q
Q
J
Q
J
Q
F
Q
J
Through
the
chair,
as
earlier,
we
and
we
would
respond
in
this
way.
Increased
capacity,
reevaluate,
respond,
increased
capacity,
come
back
to
council,
reevaluate,
I.
Think
the
the
long-term
goal,
from
my
perspective,
is
to
get
into
a
multi-year
plan
to
address
the
growth
in
demand.
That's
been
generated
from
the
growth
in
the
city,
the
GTA,
all
of
those
things,
the
no
no
growth
since
2007
I
think
has
gotten
us
to
where
we
are,
and
we
need
to
continue
to
grow
over
time
have.
J
E
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
you
might
say
a
little
motion
that
I
would
like
to
put
on
the
table.
Madam
Speaker
I
want
to
talk
about
the
problem.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
response,
and
then
I
wanted
to
give
some
thanks
and
the
expressions
of
gratitude.
First,
the
problem,
the
problem
that
I
think
many
people
intimated
in
their
questions
is
that
we
have
a
housing
crisis
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
It
is
fueled
by
the
rental
vacancy
rates,
it's
fueled
by
the
working
poor.
E
E
That's
the
crisis,
and
we've
heard
many
times
at
CDN
are
with
deputies
coming
what
that
has
meant
on
the
ground.
It
has
meant
people
sleeping
in
kitchens
of
us
of
shelters
or
respite
care
facilities.
It
has
meant
that
people
have
slept
in
offices
and
stairwells.
It
has
meant
that
many
people
and
out
of
the
cult
programs
I've,
had
to
just
say
no
more,
there's
absolutely
no
more
room
here.
There
is
a
crisis
out
there.
E
That
is
the
problem
before
us.
Related
to
that
is,
is
that
we
have
not
increased,
even
with
all
the
with
all
the
ups
and
downs.
We
have
not
increased
our
shelter
capacity
since
2007
it
has
hovered
around
4200
4300.
It
has
not
increased.
We
have
not
kept
up
with
the
changing
Toronto
and
the
changing
face
of
housing
in
our
city.
That's
the
problem.
The
problem
is
not
the
mayor.
The
problem
is
not
Oh
cap.
The
problem
is
not
this
councilor
or
that
councilor.
E
Let's
focus
on
the
issue
at
hand
and
kind
of
be
laser
focused
on
what
needs
to
be
done
here.
I
find
sometimes
in
these
debates,
there's
a
lot
of
finger-pointing
and
if
we
can
just
laser-like
focus
on
the
problem,
I
think
we'll
be
further
ahead.
So
what's
the
response,
and
now
I'm
gonna
go
through
the
motion.
Let
me
say
this:
it
is
multi-pronged,
there's
a
short-term
peace,
there's
a
medium-term
peace
there's
a
longer-term
peace
and
I
need
people
to
know
that
I
wrote
the
first
draft.
E
It
went
through
several
several
iterations,
but
I
can
say
this.
There
was
no
compromise
in
the
writing
of
this
motion.
Folks
added
value
from
staff
from
the
mayor's
office
from
other
councillors
from
the
mayor
himself.
This
is
not
a
compromised
document.
Everything
that
was
thought
of
that
could
aid
and
bring
us
up
to
date
with
our
shelter
system
was
included
in
this
motion.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
it
is
so
long
just
to
go
through
it
motions
one
to
four:
that's
the
original
staff
report
that
adds,
depending
on
how
you
count
respite
hotels.
E
It
adds
something
like
300
plus
respite
and
new
shelters.
It
is
a
major
dollar
infusion
into
the
existing
shelter
system.
That's
what
the
base
was
starting
with
staff.
Those
are
motions,
one
to
four
motions:
five
to
nine,
come
from
a
committee
and
the
work
that
followed
after
that
it
adds
four
hundred
respite,
motels
shelter
beds
and
a
cost
of
ten
point.
Six
million
dollars
staff
are
already
looking
at
larger
sites
that
are
city
owned
and
controlled,
and
that
could
accommodate
a
large
group
of
people
between
those
three
strategies
in
numbers.
E
Five
to
nine,
we
will
go,
we
will
get
to
four
hundred
number
ten.
It's
looking
at
the
longer-term
piece
it
takes
a
year
to
year
and
a
half
to
put
in
place
a
permanent
shelter
three
hundred
are
being
envisaged.
We
need
a
report
back
on
what
that
cost
is,
but
those
are
also
major
dollars.
Number
fourteen
number
11
is
referral
center
for
families.
We
heard
from
the
refugee
of
community
that
we
need
a
special
referral
center
for
families,
for
perhaps
obvious
reasons
when
they
need
to
be
referred.
Community
mobilization
is
about
14.
E
We
cannot
do
this
alone.
We
need
the
community
in
on
it,
and
the
mayor's
been
asked
and
he's
agreed
to
the
mayor
will
be
calling
a
meeting
of
senior
folks
in
church
synagogue,
business,
community
social
service
community
because
they
have
to
participate
in
solutions
as
well.
Numbers
15
and
16
go
to
the
feds.
We
need
their
money,
we
need
their
support.
We
need
their
action
as
well.
E
I've
spoken
to
Peter,
counselor
counselor
Minister
Milton's
office
this
morning
is
this
morning
and
they
are
interested
in
going
on
this
journey
with
us
number
17
just
to
bring
it
to
a
conclusion.
Is
it's
about
the
lenses
it's
about
the
interdisciplinary
teams
that
need
that's
the
tough
piece
that
we
have
yet
to
crack.
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
move
people
from
shelters
to
transitional
housing
to
housing,
and
that's
what
that
motion
tries
to
do.
Sorry.
I
didn't
have
enough
time
to
say
my
thanks
to
folks
yeah.
A
A
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker
councilman
havoc
at
the
CDR
committee,
there
was
a
recommendation
that
400
additional
new
spaces
and
beds
actually
beds
be
identified
and
open
before
the
end
of
this
year.
You
voted
yes
to
that
motion,
but
I
don't
see
that
captured
in
your
your
motion
today.
Why
is
that?
Well.
E
I
would
the
way
there
are
many
ways
to
count
and
it
depends
sometimes
on
what
you
want
in
what
you
want
out.
The
staff
report
counts
about
311
spaces,
I
actually
moved
the
motion
for
a
thousand
spaces.
The
motions
number
five
to
nine
at
four
hundred
respite
beds
in
the
three
categories
that
I
mentioned
before
and
motion
number
ten
adds
300
permanent
shelter
beds.
Q
E
I'm,
not
I
my
words
carefully
respite
beds
are
different
than
shelter
beds.
Respite
is,
is
basically
saying
you
know
what
there
are
people
that
are
out
there
on
the
cold
today
right
now,
you
can't
just
turn
a
switch
on
and
build
a
shelter
with
Celtic
with
with
functioning
beds
and
and
the
support
staff,
and
so
on.
It
takes
a
year
to
get
that
together.
However,
our
respite
winter
respite
facility
can
take
a
few
weeks
and
get
it
up
and
going
and
that's
why
you
need
a
very
short
short
short
term.
E
Q
Counselor
may
have
a
question
to
you
being
the
same
one
that
I
asked
the
staff.
How
do
you
ensure
that
you
will
not
overcrowd
existing
overcrowded
shelters?
Part
of
this
request
is
to
go
off
and
and
and
audit
these
shelters
and
find
ways
to
put
more
beds
in
or
in
your
industry
that
you
don't
add
to
the
problem
and
are
you
creating
a
solution
here
that.
E
H
E
No,
it
is
you
know
we
that
we
have
had
some
trouble
in
the
last
year,
identifying
even
respite
care
facilities,
and
what
this
motion
proposed
to
do
is
to
say
is
to
ask
the
mayor,
given
the
authority
of
his
office,
to
call
a
meeting
of
everyone
at
any
one
and
that's
from
developers
the
social
service
agencies
to
faith
communities,
calling
them
together
and
saying
we
need
your
help
in
identifying
locations.
We
need
your
help
in
solving
this
issue.
E
H
E
H
Right
so
on
number
nine
there's
a
reference
to
400
beds.
I
was
with
the
mayor
on
Sunday,
along
with
councillor
Crawford,
where
we
announced
400
beds.
Is
that
the
same?
Is
that
the
same
figure?
Okay
and
that's
on
top
of
the
291
already
scheduled
to
open
correct
next
year?
Number
14?
Is
this
asking
for
the
pooling
funds
to
be
restored,
the
140
million
that
were
cut
about
four
and
a
half
five
years
ago?
H
E
A
T
Thank
you
speaker
in
the
report
to
us
from
committee.
It
says
very
clearly
one
thousand
extra
beds
you've
in
your
recommend
recommended
amendments.
You
described
you
use
the
number
four
hundred
and
I
think
in
your
answers
to
previous
questions.
The
balance
of
the
of
the
amendments
imply
an
extra
how
many
three
hundred
so.
E
T
E
T
T
E
T
E
I
think
what
the
the
committee's
recommendations
were
broad
and
lacked
a
lot
of
details.
What
we
did
with
that
was
we
we
we
took
that
those
motions
and
said:
okay,
what
does
this
mean
verified
some
numbers
from
staff
verified
that
we
could
find
a
way
to
do
this
and
tries
to
put
put
real
flesh
to
to
the
essence
behind,
but
no.
T
A
M
Motion
speaks
to
more
beds,
but
one
in
particular
part
of
this
motion.
I
asked
you
both
and
that's
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
spending
in
our
hotel
and
motel
policy
we're
currently-
and
this
is
verified
by
staff
by
the
way.
Just
a
few
minutes
ago,
we
are
currently
spending
in
our
hotel
and
motel
one
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
per
room,
okay
per
person,
they'll
perk
to
people
and
then,
and
then
there's
food
that
includes
the
food
per
person
as
well.
So
it's
an
average
of
180
per
night.
M
That's!
If
you
look
at
the
amount
of
units
that
we're
looking
for
right
now
with
this
report,
that's
in
front
of
us
and
I
think
it's
your
motion.
It's
1,400
units!
You
know
in
hotels
and
motels,
that's
just
not
not
our
shelter
system,
so
that
amounts
to
two
million
dollars
a
month
that
we're
spending
on
just
a
hotel
policy.
Does
it
not
make
any
more
sense
than
to
sit
down
immediately
as
you've
described,
to
talk
to
the
private
sector,
the
landlords
that
are
out
there
and
say
to
them?
We
need
you
in
this
city.
E
You
finish
your
question.
I'd,
like
you
to
answer.
Thank
you.
Motion
number
16
tries
to
address
that
I.
Think
all
of
us
recognize
that
shelters
are
not
the
answer,
they're
a
bandage
that
allows
you
to
hold
people's
lives
together,
while
you
put
in
place
better
answers,
which
is
at
the
end
of
the
day
housing
and
for
many
folks,
supportive
housing
number
16
tries
to
do
that
right
now.
The
challenge
of
the
time
is
to
stabilize
the
homeless
that
are
sleeping
rough
out
there,
because
there's
no
room
in
our
shelter
system.
You
do
that.
E
Then
you
move
to
number
16
and
number
16
says
work
with
the
lines'
work
with
social
service
providers
get
some
money
from
the
feds
as
soon
as
possible
into
the
system
to
provide
supportive
housing,
and
then
you
can
move
people
from
the
shelter
system
over
and
hopefully
shrink
the
amount
of
people
in
the
motels
as
much
as
possible.
I've.
M
A
R
P
P
A
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
and
and
I
appreciate
that
that
warning
to
be
clear
and
and
and
I
apologize,
part
of
my
clarification
is
walking
in
in
the
middle.
Your
remarks
so
I'm
wondering
if,
if
I
don't
see
a
clause
in
here
that
that
that
ensures
that
we're
not
adding
beds
to
full
shelters
or
adding
adding
mats
under
tables
to
full
shelters
is
there?
Is
there
a
caveat
in
here
that
that
is
not
what
you're
endeavoring
to
do
and
creating
all
these
new
shelters
and
new
emergency
sites?
E
Yes,
we
okay,
so
number
six
actually
addresses
that
City
Council
director
general
manager
to
audit
all
existing
shelters
to
identify
any
and
all
available
space
that
could
accommodate
additional
beds
within
shelter
standards
within
shelter
standards.
Being
a
key
word.
There
are
some
staff
have
told
us,
I
told
the
council
just
a
few
minutes
ago
that
they
have
an
external
party.
That's
doing
an
audit,
and
you
know
what
most
of
them
are
cramped
to
the
gills
we
have
like
52
or
62
shelter
providers
they're
crammed.
E
Most
of
them
will
not
have
a
space
available,
but
some
do
some
have
an
extra
room
here
or
have
a
mechanism
to
on
that
both
honors
the
shelter
occupancy
standards
that
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
previous
councils.
Developing
you
can
adhere
to
that
and
add
some
spaces.
So
that's
a
piece
of
that
400,
a
strategy
that
that
staff
are
going
to
be
pursuing
if
this
motion
carries
and.
L
E
A
A
L
C
F
M
So
I
want
to
start
off
by
saying
that
I
don't
need
to
stand
up
here
and
talk
about
how
and
convince
you
about
my
stand
on
what
we
need
to
do
with
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
Our
shelters
in
our
in
our
systems,
I
wrote
the
policy
we
still
use
it.
We
just
we
just
have
some
differences
in
terms
of
how
to
get
to
where
we're
going
with.
With
with
this
council
and
I've
got
my
ideas,
and
they
do
include
the
private
sector.
We've
always
refused
to
deal
with
that.
M
So
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
before
I
do
that
I
want
to
talk
about
the
costs,
because
well
councilman
havoc
always
proposes
is
the
same
when
he
talks
about
the
standards
in
our
shelter
systems.
It
includes
everything
right
so
so
so
to
get
a
landlord
to
agree
to
house
people
that
need
it
immediately.
We
can
do
that
tomorrow,
but
what
counsel
Vivek
wants
to
do
is
bring
all
the
resources
into
that
apartment,
building
to
help
that
one
person
that
becomes
more
expensive
and
that's
what
this
stuff
does.
M
So
it
costs
us
right
now.
Fifty
four
hundred
dollars
a
month
per
client
for
verified
by
staff,
fifty
four
hundred
dollars
a
month
per
client,
two
million
dollars
in
total.
That's
just
the
hotel
system
that
we
have.
Then,
when
we
talk
about
our
shelter
system,
which
in
my
opinion,
has
no
dignity
and
we
have
we
better
move
quickly
to
replace
that
we're
spending
over
almost
seven
million
dollars
per
month
per
month.
M
That's
almost
ten
million
dollars
per
month
right
now,
with
the
temporary
form
of
housing
that
we
have
in
the
City
of
Toronto
and
and
this
this
takes
into
account
we're
about
to
do
today.
So
it's
new
money
wrapped
into
new
money
every
year,
every
time
there's
a
crisis
and
we
just
kept
keep
spending
the
money.
M
The
federal
government
makes
the
policies
and
I
say
this
to
to
my
friend,
councillor
Krusty,
because
we
had
this
discussion
the
last
time
the
refugees
were
coming
into
the
city
toronto
and
we
all
voted
in
favor
of
that
and
we
move
the
right
motions
that
suggest
that
federal
government
help
us
with
respect
to
everything
we're
trying
to
do
today.
You
know
how
much
dollars
we
got
out
of
that
nothing.
M
Councillor,
Cressy
I,
said
to
you:
we're
gonna
have
a
crisis
here.
We're
gonna
have
an
issue:
they're
gonna
be
on
our
system.
We
don't
have
housing
for
them,
and
the
City
of
Toronto
is
gonna
end
up
having
to
pay
for
them
what's
happening
today.
Another
expenditure,
ten
million
dollars
roughly
a
month
that
we're
spending
on
this.
So
yes,
we
do
need
help.
We
cannot
continue
this
on
our
own,
so
so,
while
we're
all
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
this,
because
we
do
have
a
crisis,
we'd
better
get
our
act
together.
M
Here
we
better
get
our
act
together
here,
because
there
are
people
without
housing.
There
are
people
that
need
long-term
housing
and
not
to
be
treated
like
cattle,
because
that's
what
we're
attempting
to
do-
and
you
know
why
we're
doing
it-
and
this
is
where
we
disagree.
Okay,
the
left
and
the
right
are
together
on
this
and
I'll
tell
you
that
wholeheartedly.
M
M
That
we've
got
right
now
or
we
can
continue
doing
this
every
year
and
say
we
need
more
money
and
we
need
to
be.
We
need
to
be
piling
it
on
every
year,
so
that
10
million
becomes
20
million
in
no
time
and
the
people
are
still
looking
for
housing
and,
lastly,
the
federal
government
yeah.
It's
great,
you
know
we're
helping
everybody
else
in
the
world
and
we
all
stood
up
here.
M
We
voted
in
favor
of
it,
but
look
at
what
it
causes
to
cities
when
you
do
that,
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
continue
with
the
with
the
refugees
that
the
federal
government
is
saying
to
every
municipality.
You've
got
to
take
care
of.
We
don't
have
that
money.
So,
let's,
let's
send
that
message
as
well.
Yet
again,
but
you
know
let's
stop
with
this.
We
have
to
have
unionized
employees
taking
care
of
our
homeless
people,
counting
the
cost
of
social.
A
F
F
M
I
was
the
first
one
that
stood
in
my
place
when
this
happened
and
said
yes
to
the
refugees,
but
also
move
motions
that
were
adopted
by
all
of
you.
That
said,
the
federal
government
knows
to
help
us.
The
answer
is
yes,
okay,
and
that
includes
the
capital
money
required
to
build
permanent
housing
for
for
refugees
that
come
into
the
into
the
country.
So
what
you're.
F
M
We
knew
the
amount
of
refugees
they
were
looking
at
bringing
in.
We
knew
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
even
though
there
was
a
year
in
a
grace
period
that
that's
that
they
needed
to
be
sponsored
that
in
fact,
they
would
utilize
our
system
and
not
just
about
shelters
but
our
social
system.
My
question
that's
happening
in
my
own
ward,
in
one
of
the
hotels
and
yes,
we.
F
M
M
M
G
G
We
can't
do
something,
and
if
we
can't
do
something
at
least
try
to
demonstrate
thoughtfully,
why
we
couldn't
do
it
and
I
find
that
most
people
and
reasonable
people
accept
that
if
you've,
given
them
a
good
explanation,
so
you
know
I'm
hearing
from
staff
that
there
are
significant
problems
with
opening
up
the
Armory's
and
I.
Don't
doubt
that
they
believe
that,
and
they
don't
doubt
that
they
are
looking
for.
Perhaps
the
lowest
hanging,
fruit
in
city-owned
properties
or
hotels
or
what-have-you
to
be
able
to
provide
adequate
shelter
capacity
where
I,
where
questions
are
raised.
G
The
answer
that
I
received
was
that
they
only
reached
out
to
them
two
days
ago
and
I.
Think
it's
just
fair
to
say
that
if
I
were
in
their
shoes,
it
wouldn't
demonstrate
to
me
that
we've
kind
of
arrived
at
a
conclusive
answer
or
we've
perhaps
taken
their
requests
as
seriously
as
they
believe.
It
is
because
it
is
a
serious
issue
and
it's
a
serious
request.
G
So
what
I'm
asking
staff
to
do
as
they
acknowledge
that
they
would
is,
even
if,
even
if
they
see
obstacles
ahead,
the
Armory's
have
been
used
in
the
in
the
past.
You
are
saying
that
they
are
still
an
option,
albeit
the
challenges
and
I've
also
heard
that
you
will
continue
looking
at
that
option.
If
they
can
be
opened,
then
great.
G
Perhaps,
and
we
need
to
move
forward
together
with
the
service
providers,
with
the
activists
with
people
whose
heart
and
sweat
are
in
this
cause.
There's
another
matter.
I
wanted
to
raise
within
the
risk
the
the
discussion
around
capacity,
which
is
that
what
I'm
hearing
from
people
on
our
streets
and
in
in
Midtown
Toronto
we've
actually
seen
more
and
more
people
leaving
the
downtown
core
and
coming
up
Yonge
Street
and
most
particularly,
have
noticed
around
young
and
st.
Clare,
and
so
I've
sat
with
a
number
of
these
people
and
have
asked
them.
G
You
know
how:
how
is
it
that
you've
arrived
here?
What
are
your
needs?
What
are
you
tell
me
your
story,
a
consistent
message,
I
hear
is
that
they
don't
feel
safe
in
the
shelter's.
We
have
I've
spoken
with
young
women
who
don't
feel
safe
for
their
own
person
in
in
some
of
our
shelters.
Downtown
I've
heard
that
people
are
concerned
about
their
property,
that
they're
gonna
have
things
stolen.
G
You
know
that
and
look
at
the
conditions
that
we
have
today
and
try
to
improve
them,
because
from
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
very
people
who
both
work
in
them
and
also
are
stayin
in
them,
the
conditions
are
deplorable
and
councillor
Laden
earlier
referred
to
his
daughter,
I
think
about
my
daughter,
I
think
about
any
of
our
family
members.
And
would
you
ever
want
anyone?
You
love
in
these
conditions
and
thank
don't.
Maybe
we
can
work
together
on
improving
them.
Thank.
H
Thank
you.
Madam
Speaker
I
have
two
motions.
The
first
one
is
asking
city
council
to
request
the
deputy
city
manager
cluster,
a
the
general
manager,
shelter
supported
housing
to
explore
funding,
program
and
strategic
partner
opportunities
through
a
comprehensive
document
that
have
had
a
chance
to
look
through.
It
is
important
that
we
send
a
strong
message
that
we're
prepared
to
support
people
who
are
homeless
and
move
them
on
to
supportive
housing,
and
this
can
only
be
done
with
an
honest
and
open
discussion
with
all
levels
of
government
about
mental
wellness.
H
The
second
second
motion,
we'd,
like
the
general
manager,
shelter,
support
and
housing
to
report
back
to
the
community
development
of
Recreation
Committee
on
the
referral
system,
when
those
who
are
homeless
show
up
at
a
shelter
or
a
drop-in
a
respite
and
find
it
full,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
system
is
working
to
be
able
to
effectively
move
people
to
those
shelters
that
do
have
capacity.
I.
Think
it's
important
to
remember,
then,
on
any
given
night
you
have
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
about
5,400
people
who
are
looking
for
shelter.
H
We
have
in
fact
a
little
over
5600
spaces
and
beds
in
our
system
of
various
variety
of
gender
and
category.
So
on
any
given
night.
You've
probably
got
about
250
beds
that
are
empty,
but
capacity
flow
is
the
key
to
making
sure
that
our
system
can
accommodate
all
those
in
need.
I
think
we
can.
We
can
pretty
well
conclude
that
homelessness
is
becoming
the
social
challenge
of
our
time.
It's
compounded
by
seismic
shifts
in
society
that
are
both
tragic
and
unpredictable
for
both
men
and
women
of
all
ages.
H
Who
would
have
predicted
that
we
have
an
erratic
immigration
on
citizenship
policy?
South
of
the
border
or
asylum
seekers
are
coming
across
the
border
to
try
and
settle
here
and
our
municipal
neighbors
in
the
GTA.
They
are
letting
us
down
as
well.
They
are
not.
They
are
not
pulling
their
weight
as
far
as
settlement
is
concerned,
and
there
are
enough
stories
around
to
hear
of
them
encouraging
and
moving
those
who
are
homeless
or
new
to
our
shores.
Those
to
Toronto
say
go
to
Toronto
and
though
they'll
solve
it
there.
H
On
top
of
all
of
that,
the
perfect
storm
continues
when
we
want
to
rebuild
George,
Street
and
I.
Think
we
can
all
agree
that
to
fix
something
to
make
something
better,
you
have
to
you,
have
to
tear
it
down
and
then
build
it
up
new
and
we
are
constantly
seeking.
We
were
now
seeking
800
replacement
spaces
there.
If
you
don't
have
supports
within
our
shelter
system,
our
shelter
system
just
becomes
a
long-term
housing
solution
and
that
that
will
not
that's,
not
sustainable.
Financially,
it's
not
sustainable.
Socially.
H
You
must
be
able
to
work
with
various
people
who
are
homeless,
on
the
on
the
mental
wellness
side,
on
the
substance
abuse
side
and
make
sure
that
we
give
them
the
tools
and
the
supports
they
need
to
move
from
our
shelter
system
into
supportive
housing,
and
that
is
really
the
only
practical
solution
to
making
sure
that
we
have
a
regular,
reasonable
and
respectful
capacity
of
beds
to
to
make
sure
that
we
accommodate
those.
Those
in
the
greatest
needs.
I
They
go
to
a
shelter
if
it's
that
capacity,
they're
gonna,
move
it
to
another
one,
and
my
understanding
from
recently
I
was
at
the
Peter
Street
shelter
and
that
they
have
a
computerized
system
that
so
somebody
goes
that
Peter
Street
shelter,
which
is
not
uncommon
and
it's
at
capacity,
which
is
also
not
uncommon.
They
have
a
computerized
system.
They
look
at
the
other
shelters
in
the
system
and
more
often
than
not
they
to
give
them
the
bus
ticket
and
they
send
them
to
another
shelters.
H
H
Trying
to
find
out
why,
on
any
given
night,
we
have
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
250
empty
beds,
but
at
the
same
time,
people
sleeping
on
the
floor
on
mats
under
desks
and
Peter.
Street
is
an
example
where
people
have
brought
me
stories
of
people
sitting
in
chairs
all
night
or
lying
on
the
floor
or
under
desks.
This
is
something
we
don't
want,
so
we're
wondering
why
people
in
need
are
not
being
referred
to
vacant
beds
and
something's,
not
working
so.
I
H
From
what
people
tell
me
as
the
chair
of
community
development
of
recreation,
they
come
to
me
with
stories
homeless,
advocates
and
so
forth.
People
sleeping
on
floors
under
desks
sitting
in
chairs
all
night,
at
the
same
time
that
we
have
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
about
240,
empty
beds
across
our
system,
something's,
not
working,
let's
try
and
figure
out.
Why
that's
why
this
motions
here?
Okay,.
I
H
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
do
have
a
motion
that
I'm
gonna
be
that
I
am
moving
and
it
ties
into
so
asking
the
cities
for
mediate
release
through
the
city's
open
data
portal.
Data
collected.
Sorry-
oh
sorry,
oh
sorry,
my
apologies.
Sorry,
looking
at
the
raw
emotion,
I
will
be
supporting
the
recommendations
that
no.
A
I
Yep,
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
councillor
may
have
exposures.
I
do
think
that
we
have
a
severe
issue
with
how
we
deal
with
the
homelessness
and
people
in
our
shelter
system,
in
in
the
city
of
Toronto
and
as
the
suburban
councillor
in
the
East
End
of
Scarborough,
when
I
taught
and
we
have
hotels,
I
have
family
residence
in
my
ward,
there's
a
women's
shelter
down
the
street,
and
you
know
more
often
than
not
now
I
get
calls
from
people
that
are
have
been
moved
out
of
their
home.
I
It's
said
to
they
get
basic
allowance
and
then
they
get
a
shelter
allowance,
shelter
allowances,
capped
by
the
province
at
479
dollars.
You
can't
find
an
apartment
anywhere
in
the
City
of
Toronto
for
four
hundred
and
seventy
nine
dollars,
let
alone
a
house
or
a
two-bedroom
apartment.
If
you
have
more
than
one
child,
so
we
have
a
prosperity
report.
That's
coming
up.
I,
definitely
think
that
we
need
to
have
Ontario
Disability
Support,
an
Ontario
Works.
I
They
need
to
be
raised
to
reflect
the
market
rate
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
because
it's
the
only
way
you're
gonna
get
people
out
of
that
catch-22
system.
If
they're
live
on
Ontario,
Disability,
Support
or
Ontario
Works,
that
they're
gonna
be
able
to
stay
out
of
the
shelter
system
and
the
motels
and
counts
are
hard
old
talk
to
this
as
well,
or
he
knows
very
well
motels,
that's
not
somewhere.
I
You
want
to
be
to
raise
a
family
or
have
kids
on
a
short
term
basis
or
even
live
on
loan
in
a
hotel
room,
let
alone
in
a
shelter
system.
I
think
that
I'll
be
supplying
also
be
supporting
councilor
Havoc's
motions.
You
know
we
have
a
long
way
to
go.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
there's
some
basic
things
that
we
can
do
and
I
think
that
council
irma
Havoc's
motions
start
to
address
this.
Thank
you.
O
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
No
speaker
I'm,
not
disputing
the
need
for
immediate
action.
My
concern
is
that
all
rule
all
levels
of
government
have
a
role
to
play
and
we
can't
stop
bringing
this
issue
up
with
the
other
levels
of
government.
I
want
to
just
give
you
some
numbers
as
to
what
I
think
is
the
feds
are
the
feds
and
the
province
checking
out
two
years
ago
we
saw
all
the
wonderful
photo
ops
with
our
Prime
Minister,
welcoming
the
Syrian
refugees.
We
know
from
the
questions
here
today,
there's
being
little
follow-up.
O
So,
let's
look
at
the
numbers.
Two
years
ago,
refugees
made
up
ten
four
scent
of
the
of
the
of
the
beds.
At
that
time,
there
were
43
hundred.
That
means.
430
beds
were
used
by
refugees
now,
two
years
later,
its
25%,
but
it's
25%
of
a
higher
number.
It's
twenty-five
percent
of
fifty
six
hundred
and
fifty
beds,
which
is
over
fourteen
hundred
beds,
being
used
a
difference
of
a
thousand
beds
per
night
that
translates
into
thirty-eight
million
dollars
per
year.
We
need
that
money
from
the
federal
government
on
the
provincial
side.
O
We
know
that
the
pooling
fund
has
ended.
We
heard
that's
a
hundred
and
fifty
million
dollars
per
year,
some
other
caps
and
other,
and
what
I
would
call
trickery
have
cost
us
another
ten
million
there's
a
hundred
and
sixty
million
from
the
province
that
we're
not
getting
add
that
to
the
feds.
That's
two
hundred
million
dollars.
What
does
that
mean?
Well,
that
would
be
a
seven
percent
property
tax
increase,
but
in
terms
of
building
affordable
units
at
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
bed.
O
R
Sorry
I
was
up
in
with
staff,
and
the
members
lounge
I
do
have
a
motion
that
I'd
like
to
place
here
and
I.
Think
everyone
understands
from
my
earlier
questioning
that
you
know
we
know
where
all
of
our
properties
are
all
of
our
buildings
are
that
we
might
be
able
to
use
temporarily
for
anything.
And
yet
we
don't
have
any
idea
outside
of
asking
for
the
Armory's,
where
any
other
buildings
are,
that
the
federal
or
provincial
government
might
own.
R
That
became
clear
that
our
staff
have
been
asked
a
number
of
times
to
open
the
Armory's
that
that's
a
federal
building.
We're
dealing
with
the
federal
government
feel
that
they
have
a
responsibility
to
pony
up
and
bring
on
streem
properties
that
they
own
to
deal
with
the
shelter
crisis,
but
I
think
we
should
be
really
very
well
aware
of
what
other
buildings
are
available
to
us
and
where
they
are,
just
as
we
have
that
ability
to
look
at
our
own
properties
and
I
know.
R
But
technically
it's
a
responsibility
of
every
single
level
of
government
of
every
single
elected
official.
Why
is
it
only
here
us
that
are
so
concerned
and
driving
this
issue
saying
to
the
federal
government?
You
have
a
very,
very
large
facility
in
downtown
Toronto
that
has
a
big
padlock
on
it
when
it
comes
to
people
even
sleeping
on
your
grounds.
How
is
that
allowed
to
happen?
And
you
know,
if
you
don't
think,
that's
a
suitable
location?
Where
is
the
other
suitable
location?
R
You
are
willing
to
offer
up
someone
used
to
say:
there's
one
taxpayer,
there
is
there's
one
set:
that's
all
public
property,
every
single
inch,
every
single
square
foot
of
public
property
needs
to
be
part
of
this
consideration
to
what
we're
going
to
do
during
this
crisis,
and
the
fact
is,
we
don't
have
that
list
right
now.
We
don't
know
where
that
is.
We
don't
know
where
to
ask
anything
community
doesn't
know
where
else
to
ask.
Maybe
they
have
a
list
I've
not
seen
that
list.
Where
is
it
what
can
come
on
stream
in
a
crisis?
R
Let's
start
driving
a
bigger
agenda
here
with
other
levels
of
government
that
have
to
stand
up
and
step
up
with
the
City
of
Toronto
in
looking
out
and
protecting
those
who
are
homeless.
This
is
on
an
emergency
basis.
We
have
a
new
shelter
and
housing
guidelines
where
we're
operating,
shelters,
we're
trying
to
get
people
out
of
the
system,
get
them
into
a
new
life,
get
them
things
that
they
need,
but
every
night
there
are
people
who
have
nowhere
to
go
in
our
system
that
need
a
very
temporary
spot.
R
I,
don't
see
why
we
are
having
to
push
so
hard
on
other
levels
of
government
to
pony
up
property,
to
pony
up
that
pony
up
the
Armory's,
say:
okay,
we're
giving
it
to
you
this
winter,
we're
doing
it.
We
understand
that
many
people
who've
come
into
this
city.
Many
people
that
have
come
into
this
country
have
come
here
at
our
invitation
and
we
have
a
responsibility
City
of
Toronto
we're
recognizing
that
we're
your
partner.
Here's!
What
we're
going
to
do
that
hasn't
happened
that
has
to
happen.
I
want
to
see
that
list
in
January.
A
F
R
We
have
a
list
of
all
of
our
buildings
councillor
at
real
estate.
Services
has
every
building
and
our
city
of
Toronto
shelter
staff
have
access
to
that
list.
They
know
what
that
is,
they're
able
to
consider
that
I
heard
them
earlier
say:
they're
looking
at
everything.
So
what
we're
missing
is
the
other
levels
of
government
appreciate.
F
The
fact
that
we're
going
to
get
the
other
levels
of
government
to
come
on
stream,
but
I'm,
just
wondering
in
in
this
in
this
scheme
of
things.
How
would
you
ago
answer
a
with
individual
that
says,
look
you're,
asking
the
federal
government,
the
provincial
government?
Why
don't
you
guys
open
up
the
the
community
centers
to
allow
the
homeless
to
come
in?
How
would
you
what
how
would
I
answer
them?
Looking
at
this
bill,
how
would
I
answer
that
constituent?
How
would
you
envision
me
asking
that
I.
R
Don't
know
who's
asking
that
question
I
know
what
question
I'm
asking
I
know
that
our
real
estate
services,
they
know
what's
available,
and
we
are
very
busily
opening
up
as
many
venues
as
possible,
but
we
have
no
idea.
I'll
give
you
an
example.
There
are
two
post
office
properties
that
were
surplus
and
not
one
bid
on
those
properties
councillor.
Why
would
we
allow
that
to
happen?
So
that
is
what
I'm
this
is
where
I'm
going
answer.
F
F
R
I
would
say
what
word
I
would
say
to
that.
Constituent
and
I
do
appreciate
councillor
that
what
you're
asking
me
is
because
I'm,
a
city,
councillor
and
I
can
sit
with
Miss
Jolie
or
ours.
Real
estate
staff
I'm
very
clear
what
properties
that
the
city
owns
and
the
number
of
buildings
and
what
might
be
surplus
and
what
might
be
available.
What
we're
not
clear
on
is
what
any
of
the
other
levels
of
government
have
available.
R
M
A
D
P
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
So
we'll
get
a
list
back
of
provincial
and
federal
properties.
Would
you
advocate,
then
that
staff
should
put
aside
the
approval,
the
site
approval
process
because
they
may
or
may
not
fit
so
in
the
case
of
the
post
offices
that
you
just
brought
up
I,
don't
know
if
they
meet
the
criteria
in
the
site
selection
process?
Should
staff
sort
of
put
that
aside
and
say,
look
let's
take
this
opportunity.
R
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I'm,
certainly
not
trying
to
scuttle
any
process,
but
when
I'm
speaking
about
post
offices
that
have
been
surplus
well,
those
are
federal
properties,
they've
been
sold
for
condos.
Where
is
the
federal
government
looking
at
putting
its
property
for
social
purpose,
and
how
are
we
even
to
have
be
a
part
of
that
conversation,
because
it's
the
city
that
delivers
the
social
purpose?
We
are
the
delivery
agent
for
both
levels
of
government,
for
housing,
for
shelters,
so,
let's
be
sure
to
know
where
those
locations
are
and
be
on
top
of
them
counselor.
R
P
R
R
Staff
are
facing
all
of
the
time
when
they
know
they're
turning
people
away
that
the
advocates
here
are
so
concerned
about
I,
don't
feel
that
there's
an
urgency
at
from
the
other
levels
of
government
and
I
think
there
needs
to
be
so
I,
don't
want
to
say
either/or
I'm
going
to
say,
let's
bring
them
into
this
conversation
in
a
very
robust
way.
Last.
P
R
I
asked
about
surplus
and
then
I
asked
about
others
and
I
know:
I,
don't
know
what
happened
to
the
post
office
properties,
but
it
was
surplus.
It
went
to
a
condo.
There
was
no
social
purpose
that
was
even
envisioned.
At
that
moment
it
was
done
by
an
another
agency.
So
when
I'm
looking
at
what's
owned,
I'm
looking
at
all
of
the
agencies
of
the
federal
government
as
well,
because
I
don't
think
anybody
who
put
that
together,
I
got.
L
Speaker
I
understood
your
answer
of
clarification
to
councillor
care
Gianna's.
First,
that
this
really
this
is
filling
a
gap.
We
already
have
the
city
list
there.
There
are
a
hundred
sites
that
mr.
Raftis
is
currently
looking
at.
We've
been
doing
that
since
we
started
trying
to
fill
the
gap
of
George
Street
I
understood
that
answer,
but
as
you've
been
getting
the
answers,
I'm
wondering
now,
if
you
would
consider
it
a
friend
friendly
amendment.
L
A
site
that
can
spit
either
the
immediate
need
or
the
future
need
that
we
would
then
in
fact,
be
driving
them
to
do
just
as
we've
done,
which
is
to
move
away
from
the
cold.
Can
we
get
some
money
for
condos,
build
Toronto
agenda
to
our
new
authority?
That
says,
let's
build
some
social
purpose
into
what
we
do
with
our
properties.
They
should
be
thinking.
The
same
way
is
that
is
that
your
focus
motion
you.
R
R
There's
two
categories:
yeah
and
now
I'm,
adding
into
that
the
provincial
and
federal
government
and
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
the
province
has
put
its
land
in
the
West
Don
lands
in
for
housing,
affordable
housing,
but
also
condos,
but
the
notion
that
we
should
be
looking
for
sites
that
would
be
usable
and
would
be
suitable
for
shelters
has
never
come
up
yet
and
that's
why
I'm
placing
this
here.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
Thank.
C
You,
madam
Speaker,
and
councillor
a
very
good
motion
and
I
will
but
I'm
going
to
fully
support
your
motion.
Great
idea
now.
Does
your
motion
include
buildings,
only
buildings
that
are
vacant
or
bill
that
may
have
space,
federal
and
provincial
buildings
that
may
have
space
available
or
just
vacant
buildings?
No.
R
Space,
that's
we
understand
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
We
have
so
many
buildings
because
we
have
all
of
the
services
or
run
from
here,
but
the
provincial
and
federal
governments.
They
have
certain
buildings
but
they're,
not
running
community
centers
they're,
not
keeping
the
lights
on
they're,
not
taking
the
water
they're,
not
picking
up
the
garbage.
So
we
have
so
many
so
many
properties
I
think
we
should
be
looking
at
what
theirs
are
so.