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City Council, meeting 35, December 7, 2017 - Part 1 of 2
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A
B
Guess
that's
a
good
thing
in
a
way
that
people
know
those
services
are
there,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
think
when
our
our
first
responders
go
and
participate
in
competitions.
It's
particularly
wonderful
for
us
to
be
able
to
see
that
kind
of
external
validation
as
it
were,
of
something
we
know,
which
is
that
they're
among
the
very
best
in
the
world
and
that
that's
the
good
fortune
of
the
people
of
Toronto
to
have
those
people
at
their
service.
B
He
was
on
that
team
as
well.
So
it
means
more,
though
I
think,
and
it
really
is
just
to
the
point
that
I
started
on
and
I'll
finish
on
this
point.
It
means
more
than
just
winning
a
competition.
It
means
that
we
can
be
assured
of
something
we
knew,
which
is
that
the
people
who
are
on
our
streets
every
single
day,
not
in
a
competition
but
providing
the
service
that
they're
trained
to
do
and
that
they
do
with
with
such
skill
and
dedication,
is
something
that
we
can
see
being
recognized
elsewhere.
B
Now,
I
think
there
was
a
some
thought
that
there
would
be
a
trophy
here.
We
could
see,
but
I
gather
the
trophy
like
the
Grey
Cup,
that's
a
tional
II
gone
missing
and
it
sits
somewhere,
but
I
also
wanted
to
make
mention
of
something
was
very
important,
and
that
was
that
this
year
the
competition
included.
The
presentation
of
the
inaugural
George,
Ely
Addis
memorial
award
to
recognize
a
competitor
who
demonstrated
exceptional
professionalism
and
leadership.
B
And
this
year's
recipient
is
Connor
McCulloch
an
advanced
care
paramedic
from
Niagara
EMS,
who
is
presented
with
the
award
by
George's,
son
and
brother,
and
so
I
wanted
to
make
mention
about
only
because
George
was
such
a
very
special
person
in
our
first
responder
community,
and
all
of
you
are
very
special,
including
those
who
were
not
involved
in
the
competition.
And
so
congratulations
on
behalf
of
the
members
of
Toronto
City
Council
and
the
people
of
Prague
and
thank.
A
A
City
council
has
decided
to
commit
to
consider
items
os
23.1,
a
PG
24.8
on
short-term
rentals
together
as
the
first
items
of
business.
This
morning
they
will
be
followed
by
item
CX,
29
18
29
1929
20
on
the
2008
18
rate
supported
budgets
for
Toronto
water,
solid
waste
management
services
in
the
Toronto
parking
authority.
I
will
now
take
the
release
of
member
holds
councillor
Fletcher.
C
C
C
C
Speaker,
I
have
one
other
that
I'd
like
to
make
time
specific
and
that
is
planning
a
growth
page,
six
planning
and
growth
management,
PG.
Twenty
four
point:
six
Portland's
planning
initiatives,
final
report
and
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
speak
to
councillor
shiner
this
morning
before
it
all
started
to
have
that
first
thing
on
Friday
morning
since
he's
holding
it
but
I'm
making
up
time.
Pacific.
Ok,
just
once
that.
D
A
E
A
D
Madam
Speaker
I
would
like
to
release
on
page
eight
of
the
pink
sheets:
North
York
Community,
Council
item
20,
6.57
city
of
on
young
steals
corridor
secondary
plan
I
held
it
I've
talked
about
it
again,
but
for
the
members
of
council
that
may
not
watch
the
area's
fire
up
as
young
in
steals.
This
is
where
our
friends
up
in
Vaughan
want
to
substantially
increase
the
density
that
would
end
up
using
the
subway
line
that
they
would
like
to
see
extended
there.
D
That
doesn't
have
capacity
now,
even
when
you're
starting
at
Finch
never
mind
as
you
move
down
the
line
to
the
other
streets.
So
this
is
to
authorize
our
staff
to
participate
and
to
object
to
those
intensification
ZUP
there,
where
they
really
are
going
well
above
what
their
official
plan
is
suggesting.
Okay,.
H
You
speaker
I
have
two
items
that
I
can
release
on
page
4,
e^x
29.6,
the
new
Toronto
new
city
of
Toronto
investment
policy.
Despite
you
know,
as
you
know,
I'm
very
cautious
about
public
funds,
but
mr.
fur
AG
has
can
persuade
at
me
that
that
we
have
belts
and
suspenders
here.
So
I
can
release
that
count.
A
I
A
I
A
E
A
A
E
D
J
A
A
I
You,
madam
Speaker
cousin
of
the
Davis
she
killed
one
of
my
items
and
that's
a
white
twenty
six
point.
Twenty
five
is,
it
has
to
do
with
traffic
lights
recommended
by
staff
and
I
want
to
be
here.
When
that
vote
takes
place
and
I
hope,
that's
not
going
to
be
release
or
anything
is
going
to
be
changed
while
I'm
not
in
the
Chamber's
is.
This
is
initial
death
in
life
and
I
will
not
stand
up
to
any
member
who
is
holding
items
that
are
recommended
by
series
tab.
A
A
I
L
Through
you,
madam
chair,
we
are
aware
of
approximately
just
over
1700
secondary
suites
that
have
that
have
obtained
building
permits.
Since
2002
my
city
planning
staff
may
be
able
to
assist
with
additional
numbers
and
projections
or
estimates
of
how
many
secondary
suites
we
believe
exists
in
the
city.
We've
heard
seventy
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand
as
their
estimate,
so.
I
I
Within
the
city's
definition,
short-term
rentals
are
arcade
are
allowed
in
different
types
of
housing,
for
example,
detached
houses,
row,
houses,
townhouses,
condominiums
or
apartments
as
long
as
it
is
a
principal
residence
whether
owned
or
rented
or
leased.
Is
that
the
water
definition
actually
male.
L
I
L
I
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
initial
staff
recommendations
would
have
permitted
the
use
of
a
secondary
suite
for
rental
as
a
short-term
rental,
whether
it
be
by
the
owner
of
the
property
or
the
tenant
occupying
the
secondary
suite.
There
was
an
amendment
made
to
the
recommendations
at
planning
and
growth
management,
which
wholly
excluded
secondary
Suites
from
the
permissions.
So
what
is
before
you
today
does
not
permit
the
use
of
secondary
suites
as
short-term
rentals.
So.
I
L
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
data
we've
relied
upon
is
the
data
we
were
able
to
obtain
throughout
2016.
We
have
at
that
point
approximately
ten
thousand
eight
hundred
properties,
with
fifteen
thousand
nine
hundred
and
sixty-eight
listings
that
we
had
record
of
being
used
in
the
city
of
those
they
are
not
to
differentiate
it.
Sorry,
between
secondary
suite
of
primary
residents,
though
we
do
have
from
it
some
data
that
Airbnb
conducted
a
survey
of
their
hosts
and
reported
that
approximately
77%
of
those
listings
were
being
done
by
people
use
a
lot
utilizing
their
primary
residence.
L
I
L
A
L
N
So
when
I
was
when
I
was
growing
up
in
my
house,
my
my
parents
would
often
invite
friends
of
theirs
or
friends
of
friends
of
theirs
from
Italy,
and
they
would
stay
in
the
house
for
a
week
two
weeks
and
at
the
end
of
this
day
they
would
give
my
parents,
you
know
a
few
hundred
dollars
further
for
the
accommodation
just
to
kind
of
help.
With
some
of
the
costs,
my
parents
break
the
law
through.
A
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
sir
I'm
sure
you
come
from
a
very
law-abiding
family,
you
know
so
the
the
complexity
with
this
is
there
are
different
ways
that
people
are
utilizing
their
property
for
short-term
rental
purposes
and
there's
a
mishmash
of
permissions
and
allowances
around
the
city.
The
goal
here
is
to
standardize
it
explain
it.
Keep
it
simple
to
comply
with,
allow
people
to
participate
so
that
they
may
not
run
in
or
in
foul
of
the
law.
Let.
N
Me
give
you
another
example:
councillor
cressie
or
councillor
Layton
have
people
in
their
and
their
constituencies
that
might
not
be
well-to-do
and
they
they
they
have
a
mattress,
and
they
want
to
use
somebody's
house
for
the
night
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they
give
them
five
ten
bucks
because
they
had
nowhere
to
go.
The
person
that
owned
that
house
that
they
break
the
law
through.
L
L
N
L
L
N
N
What
does
it
take
because
that,
in
my
area,
if
I
have
a
rooming
house
that
that
the
neighbors
are
complaining
about,
they
say
to
me,
this
has
been
happening
and
it's
been
happening
for
quite
some
time.
So
I
call
your
department
and
they
come
out
and
I
typically
go
meet
them
there
and
shake
hands
and
say:
do
you
want
a
coffee
and
and
what's
going
on-
and
they
say
to
me
it's
very
difficult
to
enforce
this
measure,
because
it's
so
transient
that
the
courts
will
just
throw
it
out.
N
You
cannot
enforce
something
that
lasts
for
24
hours
unless
you've
got
solid
proof
on
who
it
is
and
what
they've
paid
and
what
they've
done
it's
almost
impossible
to
enforce
it.
Would
that
be
the
case
in
a
in
a
similar
situation
where
you
get
one
person
for
the
night,
see
you
later?
How
do
you
enforce
that?
So.
L
L
Thank
you
very
much
for
articulating
how
challenging
it
can
be,
but
it
certainly
depends
on
the
circumstances
that
were
presented
with
the
evidence
that
we
can
procure
found
it
in
the
law
that
we
are
provided
with
in
the
manner
in
which
it's
constructed
to
ensure
that
it
is
enforceable
and
then
how
it
proceeds
through
the
courts
it
you
know
it
by
no
way
shape
or
form.
Is
this
a
simple
easy
exercise
and
we're
certainly
not
looking
to
regulate
people
who
are
offering
a
spare
couch
or
mattress
on
a
floor?
But
if.
A
O
Thank
You
Madame
speaker
through
you
to
our
director
so
Teresa
we
had
the
great
opportunity
of
going
down
to
New
York
for
the
sharing
economy
back
in
May,
and
you
were
probably
the
best
speaker
there,
I'm
gonna
say
and
the
I
would
say
one
of
the
keynotes
that
we
took
away
from.
That
was
our
ability
as
the
City
of
Toronto,
to
work
with
new
and
advancing
technology.
Would
you
agree
with
that
through.
L
O
I
would
say:
that's
you
because,
as
we
I
know,
you're
going
to
be
that
way
and
not
to
admit
how
amazing
you
are
and
the
work
that
you
did
and
the
accolades
that
we
received
and
that
I
heard
from
all
the
deputy
mayor's
globally
that
were
there
at
that
conference
on
the
work
that
you
did
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
Toronto.
In
those
days
it
was
for
uber
and
for
the
sharing
economy
and
in
that
regard,
and
now
we're
looking
at
Airbnb
and
we're
looking
at
that
sharing
economy.
L
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker
I,
would
say
councilor
that
we
presented
a
report
was
with
a
series
of
recommendations
and
a
regulation
to
allow
for
the
operating
of
this
type
of
service.
It
was
uber
at
the
time
it
was
City
Council.
Ultimately,
that
made
the
decision
and
took
the
steps
to
enable
what
we
have
enabled
today
so
I
appreciate
the
recognition,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
came
down
to
the
actions
of
this
council
to
make
the
law
that
we
are.
O
And
in
terms
of
that,
I
would
say.
Probably
the
second
point
that
we
took
away
from
that
from
that
conference
was
the
fact
that
it's
about
an
iteration,
so
we're
coming
forward
with
the
regulation.
We're
looking
at
it.
We're
looking
at
the
policy-
and
we
have
to
be
I,
would
say
proactive
in
the
sense
that
we
are
in
a
new
economy.
O
Yes,
we're
in
the
fourth
Industrial
Revolution,
and
that
we
have
to
look
at
a
different
way
of
working
with
the
public
and
educating
the
public
on
the
fact
that
these
new
policies
they're
going
to
come
forward
as
policymakers.
We
have
to
also
educate
the
public
that
they're
going
to
be
iterative.
Is
that
correct
through.
L
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
think
that's
perfectly
stated.
We
know
that
we're
we're
making
our
best
efforts
coming
out
of
the
gate,
based
on
the
information
that
we
have
the
experience,
luckily,
that
we
have
had
to
inform
that,
but,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
things
are
going
to
keep
changing.
Technology
is
going
to
continue
to
evolve.
O
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
certainly
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
utilization
of
blockchain
and
the
distributed
ledger
actually
disaggregating
the
aggregators.
So
we
don't
know
where
we're
going
to
be,
but
absolutely
I
think
starting
at
a
place.
That's
reasonable!
That
allows
people
to
participate
in
any
way
they
so
choose
at
the
same
time
being
mindful
that
our
communities
need
to
be
protected
as
well,
and
that
we
have
a
balanced
regulation.
O
So
I
was
reviewing
this
and
we're
going
back
to
the
proposed
regulations
for
short-term
rentals
for
the
consultation,
the
report
and
in
that
the
original
had
the
it's
the
nightcap.
So
it's
a
hundred
and
eighty
days
and
given
the
fact
that
we
have
an
amazing
tech
sector,
that's
absolutely
booming
and
punching
above
its
weight
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
Many
of
these
people
that
work
in
the
tech
sector
are
international,
we're
working
globally.
They
could
be
working
in
water.
O
L
L
A
nightcap
a
cap
on
the
number
of
nights
for
entire
unit
rental.
If
we're
here
long
enough,
we
may
all
need
a
nightcap,
but
you
know
upon
review
and
really
the
the
principle.
The
principle
to
this
regulation
is
around
the
use
of
principle
residents
and
recognizing
that
it's
not
unreasonable
to
expect
that
people
occupy
their
principal
residence
for
at
least
half
of
the
year.
So
again
it
we're
trying
to
balance
and
I
mean
it's
there's
some
jurisdictions
that
have
said
90
days
there,
some
jurisdictions
that
said
230
there
are
some
that
have
said
none.
L
So
again,
that's
a
point
for
discussion.
We
felt
that,
on
the
entire
unit
rental
180
days
in
a
year,
which
is
every
long
weekend,
Plus
every
weekend
plus
was
a
reasonable
balance,
offset
against
the
impact,
the
potential
impact
of
communities
with
ever
exchanging
tenants
or
occupants
or
guests.
Now.
G
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
have
some
questions
to
the
director
of
MLS
Tracey
cook
Tracey
any
report.
You
restrict
the
use
of
Home
Sharing
to
principal
residences,
so
can
you
describe
or
what
is
a
principal
residence?
Why
have
you
put
it
into
the
report
and
specifically
on
how
you
tried
to
balance
it
out
on
the
bigger
issue
of
housing
and
the
ability
to
include
housing
across
the
city
right
so.
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
great
question,
council
Crawford.
Thank
you.
So
certainly
you
know.
We
know
we
have
a
number
of
individuals
who
own
properties
for
investment
purposes
where
they're,
using
this
as
a
commercial
rental
for
a
short
term
basis
and
those
those
interests,
in
contrast
with
our
communities
and
our
neighborhoods,
where
we
don't
want
to
have
a
commercialization
of
residential
properties.
L
Also,
on
the
other
hand,
was
what
we
heard
through
the
consultations
and
the
people
who
obviously
are
here
on
mass
as
well
that
they
want
to
be
able
to
share
their
homes
with
with
people
who
are
visiting
the
city.
So
giving
giving
regard
to
the
true
essence
of
home,
sharing
allowing
flexibility
of
what
is
used
within
that
principal
residence
of
the
owner
and
trying
to
mitigate
against
the
commercialization
of
our
of
our.
G
L
L
G
You
have
any
do
you
have
any
statistics
reports
that
would
suggest
there
would
be
a
substantial
conversion
from
long-term
rental
to
short-term
rental
of
secondary
Suites
if
we
allowed
secondary
home
sharing
Suites.
A
concern,
of
course,
is
is
that
we
allow
home
share
or
we
allow
the
the
home
sharing
of
secondary
Suites,
but
all
these
permanent,
long-term
rentals
are
going
to
jump
on
that
you
have
any
statistics
or
reports
that
would
suggest
that
would
happen.
So.
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
and
that's
where
we're
a
bit
challenged
with
data
as
I
mentioned,
we
don't
know
how
many
people
are
occupying
secondary
Suites.
We
have
some
sense
from
the
Census
data
that
our
City
Planning
folks
have
pulled,
but
to
identify
who
is
going
to
make
a
an
individual
choice
of
if
they
offer
their
secondary
suite
for
long
term
versus
short
term.
That's
it's
very
other.
We
don't
have.
G
L
Three,
madam
Speaker,
again
on
the
issue
of
statistics
and
how
people
are
utilizing
the
secondary
Suites
and
what
choices
they
make
make.
We
don't
have
specific
data
in
that
regard.
We
do
know
there
are
homeowners
who
were
who
do
use
the
secondary
suite
on
a
short-term
rental
basis,
because
that's
their
choice,
some
that
use
it
as
a
long-term
rental
basis
because
that's
their
choice,
but
we
do
not
keep
records
of
that
type
of
rental
accommodation
as
yet
in.
L
G
Have
the
data,
as
you
know,
question
if
if
an
amendment
is
moved
when
we
get
into
the
speaking
that
and
just
let
me
read
it
and
and
if
you
can
comment
on
that
permits
a
secondary
suite
to
be
used
as
a
short-term
rental
if
it
is
exclusively
and
separately
occupied
as
a
principal
residence?
Do
you
know
what
that
means
so.
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
you
know
throughout
this
program
or
this
report
we've
looked
at
trying
to
balance
the
rights
of
owners
of
property,
with
tenants
of
properties
to
make
sure
that
everybody
can
participate
in
home
sharing
or
in
the
short-term
rental
sphere.
The
what
you're
talking
about
there
would
then
allow
someone
in
a
secondary
suite
who
is
a
long-term
tenant
to
participate
in
short-term,
renting
that
principal
residence
of
theirs,
which
is
the
secondary
suite
of
the
homeowner.
That's.
G
A
lot
that's
a
lot
of
words,
so
let
so
if
amendment
is
made
so
what
you're
saying
is
a
tenant
of
a
who
has
a
basement
apartment,
a
homeowner
rents
it
out
to
a
tenant
that
tenant
can
actually
put
it
on
to
Airbnb
and
that
tenant
or
the
homeowner
will
have
no
control
over
who's
coming
into
their
house,
because
the
tenant
is
renting
it
out
to
Airbnb.
Is
that
what
an
amendment
could
potentially
look?
Is
that
what
it
would
mean?
If
and
if
this
amendment
comes
forward,
so.
L
G
G
L
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
we
know
since
2002,
1,700
and
change
1789
I
believe
have
obtained
a
building
permit
for
the
construction
of
a
secondary
suite.
There
is
a
an
inventory
of
secondary
suites
that
would
have
been
deemed
lawful
if
they
were,
if
they
met
the
provincial
fire
code
and
building
code
of
the
time
when
they
were
constructed,
pre
amalgamation
so
that
inclusive
number.
The
estimates
coming
out
of
City
Planning
was
at
maybe
seventy
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand
secondary
Suites,
either
either
pre
amalgamation
regime
or
post
so
so
prior
to.
G
Innovation
of
this
technology,
where
it
made
it
easy
for
people
to
post
their
you
know
their
secondary
Suites
up
before
for
short
term
rental.
Did
the
city
receive
complaints
from
neighborhoods
that
somebody
had
a
basement
apartment
and
there
was
a
constant
flow
of
people
going
in
and
out
was?
Did
that
happen
before
or
before
the
technology?
So.
L
Three,
a
madam
Speaker
I
think
I
parse,
that
into
two
two
different
responses.
The
the
notion
of
people
offering
a
part
of
their
premise
for
short-term
rental
is
not
new
the
scale
and
the
the
the
obvious
nests
of
it
occurring
is
consistently
greater
because
of
the
technology
enabling
it
so
easily
right.
It
used
to
be
a
newspaper
ad
or
not.
Now,
as
far
as
us
receiving
complaints,
I
could
not
tell
you
a
specific
number
of
complaints
that
we've
received
specifically
related
to
the
use
of
a
secondary
suite.
L
G
L
Do
you,
madam
Speaker
I'll,
go
back
to
a
comment
I
made
previously
every
situation
unto
itself
is
different,
depending
on
the
circumstances.
There's
nothing
that
precludes
someone
from
having
a
couple
of
borders
or
lodgers.
This
short-term
rental
proposal
would
allow
up
to
three
bedrooms
to
be
used
for
short
term
rental
basis
at
four
and
greater
is
where
you
start
getting
into
discussions
around
rooming
house
numbers.
So
again,
I
can't
give
a
blanket
if
you
do
X
it
equals
Y,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
contributing
factors
so.
G
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
the
issue
of
landlord
and
tenant
relationships
is
specifically
under
the
Residential
Tenancies
Act
and,
as
a
matter
of
the
landlord
and
tenant
board
in
September,
the
province
did
enact
some
enhancements
to
insure
against.
You
have
that
paper
to
to
add
some
of
the
strength
to
the
protections
for
tenants
from
eviction
and
I
can
find
it
in
a
moment,
but
the
complaints
would
not
come
to
us.
That
would
be
a
landlord
and
tenant
dispute
issue.
You.
A
L
There
have
been
a
legislative
changes
made
to
the
Residential
Tenancies
Act,
to
avoid
tenants
being
evicted
due
to
abuse
the
landlord.
So
what
they've
they've
tightened
up
is
that
it
must
be
for
the
landlord's
own
use
so
they're
still
if
someone
is
unlawfully.
If
someone
is
a
tenant
in
a
secondary
suite
and
they
are
being
evicted
for
purposes
other
than
what
is
permitted
in
the
Residential
Tenancies
Act.
That
is
a
landlord
and
tenant
board
issue,
and
some
amendments
have
been
made
to
the
RTA
to
strengthen
that
and
that
would
be
in
their
purview.
Thank.
G
L
3
de
Madame
speaker
is
a
I
mentioned
previously.
It's
not
that
clear-cut.
Unfortunately,
councillor
croissant
II,
certainly
every
investigation
complaint
we
received.
We
have
to
determine
how
the
property
is
being
used,
what
the
permissions
are
for
that
property
so
and
we
do
get
a
number
of
calls
where
people
believe
it's
an
illegal
rooming
house,
but
when
we
actually
investigate,
we
cannot
prove
that
out
based
on
the
way
uses
are
defined,
so
an
example
would
be
if
someone's
operating
as
a
single
housekeeping
unit.
L
Five
people
who
are
friends
the
five
of
us
god
help
us
the
five
of
us
that
all
can
collectively
rent
a
property
and
pay
a
single
rent.
That
would
not
be
a
rooming
house.
The
way
things
are
defined
currently,
so
you
know
if
we
have
so
many
different
types
of
scenarios,
I
recognize
your
frustration,
and
that
is
why
we
need
to
address
just.
A
L
So
I
just
say
that
you
know
a
minute.
Madam
Speaker
I
recognize
the
frustration
and
some
things
that
seem
to
be
clearly
obviously
illegal
or
not
necessarily
so
when
it
comes
down
to
investigating
and
looking
at
the
underlying
the
foundational
law
that
we're
trying
to
apply,
and
we
need
to
have
that
bigger
conversation
about
what
we're
doing
with
housing
writ
large.
This
report
is
talking
about
short-term
rental
purposes,
for
people
who
are
traveling
in
and
out
of
the
city
and
people
who
want
to
offer
their
homes
to
people
who
are
doing.
That
is.
L
To
you,
madam
Speaker,
there
are
a
number
of
issues
in
regards
as
councilor
croissant
II.
Certainly,
a
right
of
entry
could
be
gained
by
obtaining
a
warrant
through
the
courts,
but
we're
talking
about
dwelling
units
we're
talking
about
places
where
people
reside
where
they
live.
You
know,
there's
the
the
bigger
issues
or
grow
up
bigger
questions
as
well
is
when
we
start
getting
into
heavy
enforcement
and
start
displacing
people
who
are
currently
residing
there.
L
Where
are
they
going
to
go
so
we,
as
a
city,
have
a
bigger
conversation
that
when
to
have
about
how
people
are
finding
housing
in
the
city
and
how
we're
responding
if
we
started
taking
a
strong
enforcement
efforts
and
D
housing
people
who
are
living
in
these
properties,
your
shelter
conversation
yesterday
would
have
still
been
going
on
and
we'd
need
a
lot
more.
So
we've
really
got
a
complex
issue.
I
wish
it
was
just
a
simple
enforcement
and
answer
for
you,
but
unfortunately
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
that.
G
L
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
don't
believe
so
we
have
what
we've
presented
to
you
is
a
regulatory
framework,
a
standalone
by
law
governing
short
term
rental
uses
and
within
that
is
not
just
simply
how
the
property
is
being
used.
There
is
a
number
of
requirements
for
people
who
are
operators
sort
of
the
hosts
that
they
have
to
have
a
registration
with
the
city
they
have
to
if
they
cannot
advertise
without
it.
L
So
there
are
a
number
of
enforcement
tools
to
address
the
issue
of
short-term
rental
if
it
is
necessary,
but
I
would
just
like
to
go
back
to
the
initial
point.
Is
we're
finding
a
way
to
clarify
the
law
to
allow
for
this
activity
to
occur
in
a
regulated,
moderated
way
so
we're
mitigating
community
nuisance
but
at
the
same
time
allowing
people
to
participate?
We
do
have
embedded
in
this
enforcement
tools
to
address
the
short
term
rental
issue.
This
is
not
a
rooming
house,
discussion
or
issue,
it's
a
short
term
rental,
but.
G
L
Speaker
we
have
laws
to
tell
people
they
can
and
cannot
or
cannot
do
a
lot
of
things
and
unfortunately,
some
people
will
I
believe
a
small
percentage
of
people
are
those
that
will
be
non-compliant
and
it's
for
those
people
that
these
let
these
regulations
are
in
place.
The
majority
of
people
and
I'm
sure
our
audience
here
today
are
law-abiding
citizens
who
want
to
have
a
clear
set
of
rules
that
they
can
follow
so
that
they
can
participate
in
this
activity.
L
You
Madison
grant
know
it.
The
this
short-term
rental
by
law
does
not
specifically
speak
to
occupancy.
If
occupancy
has
become
an
issue,
then
we
would
be
having
other
discussions,
including
potentially
with
our
good
friends
in
fire,
but
we
do
not
limit
the
number
of
people
that
can
occupy
a
premises
under
short-term
rental,
like
we
don't
limit
the
number
of
people
who
can
occupy
a
premises,
you
generally.
P
P
Because
when
you
talk
in
Scarborough
you
talk
about
basement
apartments,
you
don't
really
talk
about
secondary
suites.
If
I
ask
my
neighbor,
do
you
have
a
secondary
suite,
they
probably
say
no
I
own
a
house
and
then,
if
I
said,
do
you
have
a
basement
apartment?
They
say?
Oh
yeah,
we
have
a
couple
students
down
there,
so
I
just
want
to
start
off
with
part
of
your
report
says
that
you
have
to
be
an
owner
occupier
to
participate
in
I'll,
call
it
air,
B&B
or
rental.
Correct.
P
L
P
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
that's
exactly
correct.
That's
why
we
have
said
that
the
the
short
term
rental
applies
to
principal
or
permissions
or
principal
residents.
Only
a
person
can
only
have
one
principal
residence
and
they
can
be
the
owner
or
occupier
being
tenant
of
that
principal
residence.
But
it's
only
that
one
that
they,
the
and.
P
Three,
madam
chair,
you
say:
that's
I'm,
gonna
call
it
sort
of
one
of
the
benefits
of
your
proposed
regulations.
Is
that
we're
trying
to
stop
the
absentee
landlord
from
buying
up
five
houses
or
ten
houses
and
just
running
hotels
or
businesses,
with
no
ownership,
no
presence,
no
control
over
who's
coming
in
and
out,
and
the
impact
on
their
neighbors.
L
Absolutely
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
absolutely
we
do
know
that
there
are
people
who
have
a
property
in
the
city
that
they
want
to
rent
out
an
ongoing
basis
on
a
short-term
rental
we've.
We've
said
no
to
that.
We've
tied
it
really
to
the
principle
residents
to
ensure
that
our
residential
neighborhoods
stay
residential
and
don't
become
industrial
or
commercialized.
Rentals
and.
P
Three,
madam
chair
and
I
just
wanted
to
understand
so
again.
If
I'm
living
in
Scarborough
I
have
a
house
and
I
have
I'll
call
it
a
basement
apartment
I
won't
call
it
a
secondary
suite
because
I
don't
fit
that
a
secondary
suite.
If
I'm
correct
is
something
in
the
act.
You
actually
register
with
the
city.
You
go
through
the
fire
code
in
the
building
code,
yeah
no.
L
M
You,
madam
Speaker,
a
secondary
suite,
is
a
defined
term
in
the
zoning
bylaw.
A
basement
apartment
is
not,
they
can
be
the
same
thing.
We
call
it
a
secondary
suite
today.
The
common
language
is
a
basement
apartment,
but
if
it
has
a
separate
door,
if
it
has
sanitary
facilities,
if
it
can
be
food
preparation,
it's
in
today's
language,
a
secondary
suite,
but
years
ago
it's
a
it's
a
basement
apartment
they're
the
same
thing
so.
P
M
P
And
then
recommendation
number
six
of
the
staff
report
talks
about
no
operator
shall
be
permitted
to
operate
an
entire
unit
rental
for
more
than
a
hundred
and
eighty
nights
per
calendar
year.
So
under
this
legislation,
if
again,
if
I'm
in
Scarborough
I
own
my
house
or
I'm
paying
the
mortgage
on
my
house,
you
would
this.
The
the
city
would
allow
me
to
rent
out
my
entire
house
for
a
short
term
rental
that
would
be
okay
up
to
180
days.
Sure.
P
In
theory,
if
I
wanted
to
make
a
little
bit
of
extra
money
for
whatever
reasons
I
could
go
and
ask
my
brother
to
crash
at
his
place
for
a
week
while
somebody
comes
and
rents
my
home
and
then
go
back
to
my
home.
That
is
correct,
but
the
the
goal
of
your
report
is
that
it
is
an
owner-occupied
home
or
dwelling.
So.
L
3A,
madam
Speaker
I
just
want
to
bring
clarity
on
the
occupied,
so
we're
not
requiring
that
the
owner
is
present,
which
is
the
entire
unit
rental
scenario,
but
simply
that
it's
the
principal
residence.
So
yes,
your
example
of
I
leave
for
a
week
and
I
put
on
short-term
rental.
This
would
permit
you
to
do
that
on
an
entire
unit
for
up
to
180
days
throughout
the
year.
You
go
to
your
cottage
every
weekend
you
want
to
put
it
on
short-term
rental.
L
You
can
do
that
up
to
a
180
days,
those
snowbirds
who
leave
and
go
to
wonderful
Florida
for
a
few
months
if
they
want
to
do
that
and
offer
their
home
on
a
short-term
rental
basis
during
that
period
of
time,
they're
permitted
to
do
so
up
to
180
days
in
a
year.
It's
not
a
hundred
and
eighty
days
consecutively.
Nor
is
it
twenty-eight
days
consecutively.
It's
short
term
rental
periods.
For
that
amount
of
time,
Thank
You.
J
M
J
J
J
R
J
M
J
I
want
to
come
to
secondary
Suites,
which
is
being
talked
about.
My
understanding
is.
We
were
estimated
that
there
are
about
70,000
there
about
secondary
Suites
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
Is
that
right?
That's
our
rough
estimate.
Yes,
all
right
are
those
secondary,
Suites,
an
important
part
of
the
rental
housing
market
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
Yes,
just.
R
To
contextualize
it
these,
as
mr.
Mitzi
Adams
Cooke,
have
indicated
these
manifests
themselves
in
many
many
different
ways
across
the
city
and
different
house.
Ground
related
housing
forms
basement
apartments,
attic
apartments,
second,
floor,
conversions.
They
manifest
themselves
in
many
many
ways,
but
they
do
contribute
substantially
to
our
our
the
supply
of
housing.
So
the
goal
of
our
official
plan
to
provide
a
broad
spectrum
of
housing
types
and
tenures
across
the
city.
J
So
on
the
numbers,
in
your
estimation,
secondary
suites
are
an
important
source
of
rental
housing.
Do
they
also
serve
the
added
benefit
of
providing
rental
housing,
more
affordable
rental
options
in
established
neighborhoods
that
are
expensive
to
buy
in?
Do
they
in
a
sense?
Do
they
also
have
an
added
value
of
helping
to
provide
mixed
income
housing?
Neighborhoods?
J
R
J
R
J
R
J
If
we
had
more
rental
housing
secondary
Suites
would
we
expect
the
vacancy
rate
to
increase
so
that
those
prices
would
go
down?
That
might
be
as
an
effective
supplying
to
me
all
right
and
just
one
final
question:
I
recognize
I
have
time,
but
one
final
question:
if
we
fail
to
regulate
Home
Sharing,
do
we
risk
making
the
city
more
unaffordable,
I.
R
Think
the
whole
effort
here
is
to
establish
a
platform
of
regulation
in
a
currently
unregulated
environment
so
that
we
can
balance
off
the
various
objectives
that
were
challenged
with
in
this
exercise.
One
of
those
objectives
is
affordability,
also
providing
a
platform
to
support
a
new,
a
new
business
type
in
the
city
and
and
there's
certainly
a
market
for
that.
So
we're
trying
to
strike
that
balance
and.
J
E
You
very
much
good
morning,
madam
Speaker,
so
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
this
secondary
suite
definition.
So
you
need
food,
prep
ability
and
kind
of
extensive
food
prep,
not
just
your
toaster,
oven
and
microwave,
and
you
need
sanitary
ability.
So
you
need
essentially
kind
of
a
full
kitchen
and
a
full
bathroom
and
now
I
just
heard
something
separated
door.
So
is
that
the
three
things
you
need
to
have
be
defined
as
a
secondary
suite
through.
M
You,
madam
chair,
just
so
we're
all
on
the
safe
side.
It
is
a
defined
term
in
the
zoning
bylaw
and
I
can
provide
that
exact
definition.
It's
a
self-contained
living
accommodation
for
an
additional
person
or
persons
living
together
as
a
separate
single
housekeeping
unit
in
which
both
food
preparation
and
sanitary
facilities
are
provided
for
the
exclusive
use
of
the
occupants
of
the
suite
located
and
subordinate
to
the
dwelling
unit.
E
That
would
yes,
okay,
so
three
things
alright,
just
with
regards
to
enforcement.
What
does
that
look
like
as
far
as
take
me
through
the
the
face?
So
is
it
you're
not
going
out
and
just
kind
of
happened
to
be
doing
a
walk
in
the
neighborhood
and
wow?
This
looks
like
maybe
an
illegal
secondary
suite,
a
peeping
tom
in
the
windows
or
whatever
you
are.
It
is
complaint
driven.
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
yes
I
think
there's
enforcement
efforts
that
would
be
required
or
appropriate
to
expect
that
everyone
is
registered
and
then
from
there
where
it's
about
the
use
it
would,
they
would
generally
be
complaint
based.
We
will
also
be
requiring
an
exchange
of
data,
so
that
will
help
inform
if
there's
it's
necessary
for
us
undertake
any
level
of
proactive,
but
we
are
not
endeavoring
to
start
looking
in
people's
homes
to
see
if
their
secondary
suite
is
a
self-contained
unit.
L
E
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
and
that's
where
we
were
less
prescriptive
and
left
it
more
open
for
us
to
to
nimbly
I
recognize
that
people
have
different
forms
of
identification
or
or
manners
by
which
they
may
prove
that
that
is
their
principal
residence.
There
is
a
provision
in
the
proposed
regulation
as
well
that
where
we
believe
someone
is
not
using
a
principal
residence
that
they
are,
it's
a
reverse
onus.
L
They
are
required
to
provide
us
proof
that
it
is
so
on
both
sides,
because
we
know
the
principal
residence
issue
is
important-
that
there's
a
reasonable
amount
of
information
provided
in
the
initial
stages.
Registration,
that's
flexible,
to
recognize
that
not
everyone
has
a
driver's
license
and
we
need
various
forms
to
support
those.
Just.
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker
I
am
going
to
respectfully
decline
on
OP
opining
I
think
we
we
put
forward
a
set
of
recommendations
that
would
allow
people
to
participate
in
a
broader,
sprouter,
broader
way,
inclusive
of
their
secondary
suite.
We
know
we
heard
and
I
see
a
deputy
here
who
spoke
about
him,
maintaining
his
home
when
he
had
lost
his
job
and
by
using
the
secondary
suite
as
a
short-term
rental
that
afforded
his
ability
to
live.
We
also
heard
from
deputies
who
said
they
can't
find
a
place
to
live.
So
it's
really
a
very
difficult.
L
K
Speaker
and
through
you
miss
cook
I
have
several
questions
I'd
like
to
ask
you
can
just
try
to
answer
them
as
briefly
as
possible,
just
because
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
them
in
the
city
of
Chicago
has
created
a
list
of
properties
that
are
off-limits
to
Airbnb,
another
type
of
home,
sharing
applications
and
platforms,
and
they've
done
that
largely
to
assist
them
with
centralizing
data
and
to
allow
for
a
more
efficient
and
better
enforcement.
Are
you
aware
of
that
service.
L
Through
your
madam
Speaker,
it
sounds
like
it's
a
prohibited
buildings
list
in
Chicago
does
also
permit
commercial,
short-term
rentals.
We
did
consider
it.
We
chose
that
that
we
decided
that
that
was
not
a
role
for
the
city
to
take
that
condominium
boards
have
the
responsibility
and
the
ability
to
regulate
within
their
their
condominium
corporation
and
that
that
responsibility
lies
there
and.
L
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
think
that's
a
fair
statement.
We
need
to
stay
in
our
lane,
as
it
were,
allow
the
condo
boards
to
take
the
actions,
that's
appropriate
for
their
properties,
mindful
that
the
underlying
are
the
foundational
zoning,
permissions
and
other
city
and
provincial
statutes
must
be
complied
with.
If.
K
That's
the
case:
are
you
aware
that
that
the
city
already
screens
for
condominium
units
status
since
property
standards
refused
to
inspect
owner
occupied
condo
units?
Sorry,
could
you
repeat
it?
Are
you
aware
that
property
standards
refuses
to
inspect
owner
occupied
condo
units
as
opposed
to
tenant
occupied.
L
K
Mls
aware
the
city
already
assigns
our
own
regulations
with
condominium
aligns
our
own
regulations
with
condominium
board
bylaws
on
parking
under
the
section
of
the
city
code
on
parking
on
private
municipal
property
through
our
definition
of
property
owner
to
include
Parker's
designated
by
condo
boards.
Through.
K
I'm
asking
these
questions
largely
because
you're
saying
that
you
don't
want
to
interfere
with
condominium
regulation
fees
and
bylaws,
and
it
clearly
is
that
perhaps
the
city's
already
extended
themselves
to
make
sure
that
they
can
do
some
of
this
enforcement.
So
here's
another
question
was
MLS
aware
that
the
city
already
recognizes
each
condo
boards
internal
definitions
of
common
spaces
for
the
purposes
of
property
ownership
under
the
city
under
the
city
code
for
fire
safety.
K
L
K
But
I
just
want
to
understand
why
you
did
not
propose
the
the
creation
of
the
prohibited
buildings
lists
and
in
your
reply
your
answer
was
that
you
didn't
necessarily
want
to
interfere.
That
and
and
even
though
the
city
of
Chicago
has
demonstrated
that
it
is
a
very
effective
tool
of
enforcement.
So
therefore
it's
it's
a
it
probably
reduces
labor
costs
and
other
expenses.
So
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
is
like
I'm,
trying
to
establish
that
that
we
already
do
have
interface
with
with
private
economy,
name
ownership.
K
L
K
So
so,
but
we
do
respect
condominium
boards
when
they
make
their
decisions
around
their
own
governance.
So
then,
with
that
in
mind,
knowing
that
those
precedents
exists,
what
MLS
consider
perhaps
today
or
in
the
future,
if
deemed
necessary,
the
creation
of
a
prohibited
list
for
buildings
as
a
tool
of
better
enforcement,
so.
L
Three,
madam
Speaker
I
think
absolutely
councillor
Wong
time
as
we
get
experienced
with
this
regulation
regulatory
regime,
and
we
believed
that
by
requiring
it
to
be
principal
residence
only
that
the
that
would
take
care
of
a
great
deal
of
the
issues
that
are
occurring
in
the
condominiums,
but
certainly
as
councillor
Holland,
referenced
I
know
we'll
be
discussing
this
again
further.
We
did
contemplate
the
prohibited
building
list.
It
was
a
deliberate
discussion.
L
We
opted
and
believed
that
with
the
principal
residents
and
the
entirety
of
what
we
are
proposing
as
permissions
would
address
some
of
those
things
where
Chicago
was
far
more
open
and
does
allow
for
commercial
use.
We
felt
that
our
principal
residents
founded
regime
would
be
sufficient
to
address
that
issue
and
that's
why
we
part
of
the
reason
as
well
why
we
chose
not
to
recommend
it.
Thank
you.
Q
P
A
couple
of
questions
Tracey
the
recommendations
that
were
put
forward
by
the
committee,
one
of
the
instructions
were
that
you
were
supposed
to
come
back
with
a
review
of
the
submissions
at
committee
and
come
come
up
with
any
other
recommendations.
Did
you
actually
come
up
with
any
other
recommendations
through.
L
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
what
we
have
tried
to
do
is
balance
again
appropriate
regulation
to
allow
protections
and
communities
without
becoming
lis,
overly
burdensome
and
and
pulling
out
councillor
Hall
our
deputy
mayor
holidays
red-tape
we've
tried
to
avoid
doing
that.
We
felt
that,
by
allowing
a
pass
through
registration
system
for
those
platforms
that
are
capable
an
online
registration
for
operators
who
are
not
affiliated
with
a
large
platform
and
taking
that
information
primarily
online
is
an
important
piece
of
making
sure
this
works
and
that
people
comply.
P
This
is
a
rather
difficult
topic
for
me
to
wrap
my
mind
around
simply
because
it
has
economic
impacts,
but
it
also
affects
different
areas
of
the
city
in
a
different
way.
You
know
you,
you
have
to
segment
the
city
to
undo,
to
try
and
comprehend
the
impact
on
particular
quarter
as
a
matter
of
fact
down
in
the
city,
I
have
great
difficulty
understanding
why
we
can
find
us
two
principal
residents
only
like
I
know
that
there's
a
there
is
a
a
vacancy
rate
in
the
secondary
rental
market
that
is
quite
high,
not
but
not
citywide.
L
P
M
You,
madam
chair,
to
answer
both
your
questions.
First
question:
we
think
it
is
very
important
that
the
definition
is
linked
to
the
concept
of
principle
residents,
because
then
we
stay
within
the
realm
of
Home
Sharing
and
we
don't
drift
into
the
commercialization
of
residential
space.
That's
a
bad
thing!
You
think
we're
not
recommending
that
no!
This
is
about.
This
is
Home
Sharing
exercise.
This
isn't
about
ironing.
P
Residential
units
identify
arson
understand
is:
why
is
permitting
some
commercialization
a
bad
thing,
given
that
there
are
people
who
might
have
units
that
are
vacant
and
would
be
in
a
better
position
that
they
could
rent
out
those
units
on
a
short-term
basis?
That's
all
notwithstanding
that
may
not
be
a
principal
residence.
M
The
unit
one
of
the
important
aspects
of
this
is
that
we
don't
turn
commercial.
We
don't
turn
residential
uses
into
commercial
uses
inadvertently
or
through
the
drift
into
that
type
of
thing.
It's
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
don't
harm
the
long-term
rental
market
by
having
commercial
uses
permanently
allocated
to
what
were
formerly
residential
uses.
So
when
you
do
short-term
rental,
you
can
only
do
it
first
for
a
short
term
based
understood.
P
R
The
whole
platform
that
is
being
recommended
with
the
package
is
one
of
our
goals
is
be
to
consistent
with
the
official
plan.
The
official
plan
seeks
to
ensure
the
stability
of
our
residential
areas.
The
premise
of
this
from
a
land
use
point
of
view
is
that
we
don't
want
to
accidentally
create
the
commercialization
of
our
neighborhoods
and
our
residential
areas,
so
we
are
recommending
a
bylaw
that
is
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
Official
Plan.
That's
the
whole.
That's
the
whole
purpose
of
this
mister.
P
F
Thanks
speaker,
I,
think
through
you,
two
planning,
and
maybe
even
the
chief
building
official
but
I'll
invite
emili´s
to
chime
in.
If
there's
a
component
here,
I
got
three
little
kids
I
got
a
bungalow
out
in
the
West
End,
and
you
know
I'm
intrigued
by
this
report,
because
I
got
you
know,
save
up
for
some
University
for
those
little
kids.
F
C
F
A
G
F
You're
building
proof
that
you
over
it-
and
this
is
all
a
story
but
I
actually
want
to
explore
this
notion
of
lawful
secondary
sweet,
what
it
really
means
and
what
it
means
to
make
a
sweet
novelty.
I
need
to
understand
that
yeah
is:
is
this
a
fairly
arduous
process
than
to
go
through
to
move
something
that
may
be
in
existence
today
to
the
definition
of
lawful
through.
C
K
F
Okay,
in
to
the
best
of
staffs
knowledge
and
I'll,
give
this
to
a
broad
question
of
staff.
I
know
the
numbers
are
fairly
small
in
the
report
about
what
lawful
secondary
suite
is.
Do
you
foresee
that,
if,
if,
if
secondary
suites
were
entertained
as
part
of
the
consideration
of
the
policy
around
home
share,
we've
got
a
fairly
big
hump
to
get
over
to
make
Suites
that
may
be
used
today
for
this
or
being
rented
out
into
the
category
of
lawful?
How
do
you
put?
How
do
you
plan
to
do
that?
F
L
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
the
reference
to
lawful
actually
incorporates
a
number
of
pieces.
So
when
we
talk
about
the
1700
that
we
are
aware
of,
those
are
just
secondary
suites
that
have
been
constructed
with
a
building
permit
since
2002.
The
numbers
that
have
been
thrown
around
seventy
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand
also
may
include
lawful,
secondary
suites
that
were
lawfully
in
place
or
constructed
constructed
subject
to
the
fire
code
and
building
code
of
the
day.
There
are
also
secondary
Suites
that
may
not
be
in
compliance
with
fire
code
and
Building
Code.
L
Those
are
required
to
be
so.
What
we
have,
what
we
are
providing
in
this
regulation
is
the
owner
who
wants
to
use
their
if
permitted,
that
would
use
their
secondary
suite
for
short-term
rental
has
to
assert
that
it
is
a
lawful
secondary
suite
that
may
include
the
existence
of
a
permit.
It
may
include
an
existence
of
a
of
a
letter
from
the
fire
department
so
that
an
inspection
would
be
required.
L
F
F
Last
question:
I
don't
have
a
basement
walkout,
but
I
do
have
a
basement
and
if
I
put
an
IKEA
kitchen
down
there
and
in
some
some
bedrooms
and
renovated
the
bathroom
to
make
it,
you
know,
hospitable
and
people
continue
to
use
my
front
door
and
they
just
go
down
to
the
basement
and
move
the
toys
aside.
Am
I
okay
can
I
rent
that
out,
as
rooms
is
not
necessarily
a
secondary
suite,
but
but
you
know
it's
almost
a
suite
adjust
navitor
is
that
okay
laughter.
L
H
Thank
You
mr.
Gavin,
the
proposal
we
have
in
front
of
us
and
just
generally
the
increasing
and
expanding
business
of
these
short-term
rentals.
Are
they
having
an?
Are
they
going
to
have
an
impact
on
housing,
affordability
in
the
City
of
Toronto?
Yes,
they
will
will
people
be
evicted
as
a
result
of
the
expansion
of
short-term
rentals
in
the
City
of
Toronto
through.
Q
The
through
to
the
chair,
councillor
perks,
this
policy
has
a
significant
impact
as
it
relates
to
renters
in
this
city.
46%
of
renters
in
this
city
are
paying
currently
more
than
30%
of
their
income
on
their
housing,
I
believe
in
terms
of
both
social
and
housing
policy
that
the
council
should
be
very
careful
with
respect
to
proceeding,
and
it
could
indeed
lead
to
the
eviction
of
existing
residents
that
are
attendants
in
secondary
Suites.
We.
H
Q
H
Q
Bad
housing
policy
councillor
and
in
the
environment
that
we're
currently
in
Toronto,
where
it's
become
increasingly
harder
for
individuals
to
purchase
homes
and
where
the
federal
government
has
created
stress
tests
that
have
prevented
renters
to
owning
their
own
homes,
renting
is
becoming
increasingly
a
more
challenging
prospect
for
all
residents
in
this
city.
I
have.
H
Q
Counselor
the
the
average
rent,
as
reported
by
CMHC
for
a
one-bedroom
apartment,
is
$1,200.
A
two-bedroom
is
$1,400
at
plus,
so
those
rents
that
you're
speaking
of
do
essentially
not
exist
unless
a
person
is
already
in
that
unit.
But
if
they're
going
into
the
market
where
none
of
the
market
units
are
rent
control
and
that
landlord
is
able
to
reset
the
price,
they
would
not
get
a
rent
at
that
level.
H
So
therefore,
people
who
are
currently
in
a
rent,
controlled
unit
get
evicted
for
something
and
I've
seen
it
happen
for
a
short-term
rental
are
unable
to
find
housing
at
the
rent
they're.
Currently
paying
is
that
what
you've
just
told
me
that's
correct
and
are
some
of
those
people
who
are
unable
to
find
rent
at
the
rent
they're,
currently
paying
going
to
become
homeless.
Q
B
R
The
rental
replacement
policy
and
the
Official
Plan
is,
if
you
meet
a
certain
tests
of
rent
level.
I
don't
have
the
number
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
it's
an
affordable
rent
level.
You
must
and
you're
redeveloping
that
property.
You
must
replace
I,
think
it's
five
or
more
units,
six
or
more
units
in
that
in
that
development.
So
a
scenario
of
a
20
unit
apartment
building,
for
example,
with
affordable
rents.
You
would
you
would
have
to
replace
those
20
units
in
the
redevelopment
scenario.
Where
did
that
policy
come
from
the
history
of
that
policy?
R
Yeah?
It's
it's
a
long,
long-standing
effort
to
modify
provincial
policy
and
put
it
into
the
City
of
Toronto
framework
of
legislation
that
supports
our
unique
and
you
know,
special
efforts
to
maintain
the
diversity
of
housing
and
affordable
housing
in
a
growing
city.
So
it's
it's
translation
from
provincial
policy
into
the
City
of
Toronto.
The
city
has
seen.
B
It
fit
that,
if
we're
going,
if
we're,
if
we're
looking
at
a
development
application
and
we're
going
to
lose
five
or
more
units
in
one
development,
application
that
that
developer
be
required
to
play,
replace
those
units,
absolutely
yes
and
they
were
required
to
replace
them
like
for,
like
write
something
same
size.
Same.
R
K
B
L
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
think
we
will
have
to
wait
and
see
the
extent
to
which
the
enforcement
does
a
it's
harder
now,
because
we
don't
have
clear
set
of
rules
but
great
question.
Yes,
we
did
impose
and
we
are.
We
are
recommending
the
licensing
of
the
platform
companies,
the
short-term
operator,
short
term
rental
companies
and
putting
a
certain
amount
of
responsibility
on
them,
including
not
being
able
to
advertise
any
property
that
has
not
got
a
registration
number
from
the
city,
etc.
Okay,
so.
L
Sri,
madam
Speaker,
we
have
it
on
both
sides,
so
the
person
who
wants
to
offer
their
home
on
a
short-term
rental
basis
cannot
advertise
it
as
such.
Unless
they
have
a
registration
number
and
the
platform
or
service
that
is
being
used
to
advertise
is
not
permitted
to
advertise
one
that
does
not
have
a
registration
number.
So,
in
both
cases,
there's
accountability
and
responsibility
for
that
and.
L
Ensure
that
we
know
three,
madam
Speaker,
we
want
to
know
where
they're
happening.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
the
essence
of
the
regulatory
regime
is
upheld.
We
do
and
that
the
dialogue
that's
been
happening,
recognize
that
this
is
a
balance
of
insuring
people
have
an
opportunity
to
participate
without
exacerbating
any
of
the
housing
issues.
That's
why
we've
prescribed
principal
residents,
proof
of
identification,
etc
so
and
having
a
registration
so
that
we
know
where
these
things
are
occurring
allows
it.
B
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
you
know
and
again
I'll
go
back
to.
It's
kind
of
my
common
mantra
is
setting
out
a
regulatory
regime
that
is
reasonable
and
balanced
addresses
addresses
the
risks.
We're
trying
to
address,
regulates
and
gives
clarity,
so
people
can
participate
with
a
reasonable
set
of
rules
and
our
expectations
and
information
that
we
require
and
at
the
same
time
affords
us
tools.
We
need
for
the
small
percentage
of
people.
We
believe
who
will
be
on
component
well.
B
F
S
So
this
this
proposal
will
limit
the
supply
of
Airbnb
and
other
short-term
rentals,
and
that
would
drive
up
the
supply.
The
demand
for
other
short-term
stay
uses,
which
is
hotels
and
motels.
So
it
would
be
positive
for
the
hotel,
in
our
view,
would
be
positive
for
the
hotel
industry
in
Toronto
right.
L
So
through
you,
madam
chair,
certainly
we
do
a
jurisdictional
scan.
Everybody
is
in
a
very
cymose
tour
in
a
similar
position,
as
we
are
we're
actually
ahead
because
we're
having
the
discussion
about
how
we're
going
to
do
this
I
think
it's
early
days.
There
have
been
some
studies
done
generally
procured
by
the
largest
platform
talking
about
the
economic
impacts
and
benefits
to
local
businesses,
etc.
So
you
know
but
I
think
to
to
the
GMs
point
it's
early
days
and
to
really
quantify
the
impacts.
You
need
to
understand
the
local
context,
the
regulatory
regime
that's
permitted.
F
Three
human
M
speakers
of
staff
do
mean:
do
we
have
an
understanding,
I
know?
One
of
my
colleagues
aunt
asked
us
earlier.
I
didn't
hear
an
answer
to
it.
Do
we
do
we
know
what
demographic
is
using
their
being
bees?
Is
it
business
people
come
into
the
city
vacationers?
So
so
who
will
be
using
this
platform.
L
Three,
madam
Speaker,
certainly
we've
undertaken
a
great
deal
of
consultation
and
we've
heard
from
from
all
sectors.
You
know
I,
think
primarily
and
where
it's
focused
as
people
who
are
tourists,
people
who
are
visiting
the
city
on
short-term
basis
doesn't
preclude
even
within
the
city
tourists
people,
people
living
in
the
north
end
of
Scarborough
wanting
to
stay
downtown
for
an
event.
Those
are
happening
within
the
city
as
well.
So
it's
really
it's
a
nonspecific
demographic.
F
L
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
we
have
identified
with
in
the
staff
report
request
for
additional
enforcement
compliment
a
compliance
and
an
MS
o
as
well
as
some
temporary
staff
to
assist
in
the
developing
of
the
online
registration
I
would
suggest
that
the
existence
of
a
regulatory
bylaw
that
we
have
provided
actually
does
aid
enforcement
cuz.
It
does
allow
most.
Your
clear
rules
is
the
first
thing
we
need
and
people
complying
under
those
clear
and
manageable
rules,
and
then
we
deal
with
the
outlier.
L
F
L
Through
your
madam
Speaker,
we
do
know
that
the
condominium
experience
going
back
to
councillor
Wong
Tams
question
certainly
is
a
large
component
of
this,
so
the
zoning
that's
in
place
is
applicable
to
all
the
short-term
rental
regulation
that
we
have
proposed
is
applicable
to
all
as
far
as
condominium
boards-
and
that
is
provincial.
We
have
had
discussions
with
the
province
throughout
this
process,
and
condominium
corporations
are
empowered
to
make
the
rules
that
can
be
more
restrictive,
not
more
permissive
than
what
our
municipal
or
provincial
laws
permit.
L
J
L
J
L
J
Just
a
question
around
question:
around
enforcement
I
think
the
enforcement
of
180
days.
It's
pretty
clear,
it's
180
days.
That's
that's
pretty
black-and-white
I'm,
just
wondering
I,
don't
want
to
know
your
enforcement
techniques,
and
you
can't
answer
that
question.
But
what
I'm
going
to
ask
is:
is
how
do
you
enforce
it,
given
that
there's
multiple
platforms
that
may
or
may
not
talk
to
each
other?
J
There
are
travel
companies
that
book
business
travel
directly
into
Airbnb,
zand,
short-term,
rentals,
there's
international
companies
that
also
book
these
kinds
of
stays
and
there's
also
word-of-mouth,
and
you
get
a
complaint
from
somebody
that
the
resident
the
home
has
been
booked
out
for
more
than
180
days.
How
do
you
prove
it
so.
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker
and
I,
think
that's
it's
a
great
discussion.
Councillor
Hart
and
I
appreciate
your
understanding
of
the
enforcement
efforts
here,
but
you
will.
You
will
note
in
recommendation
six,
where
we've
put
the
responsibility
on
the
operator
so
irrespective
of
the
platform
that's
being
used,
is
up
to
the
operator,
the
person
who
owns
the
home
that
they
do
this
for
no
more
than
180
nights
per
calendar
year,
where
it
is
their
entire
unit
bedrooms,
while
you're
home
365
but
180,
where
it's
your
entire
unit.
L
So
we
will
be
utilizing
data
but
also
having
to
deploy
other
matter
and
other
methods
to
determine
if
people
are
contravening
that
180
day
issue.
But
they
you
know
it's
it's
a
number
of
enforcement
efforts,
that's
required
and
really
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
it's
what
is
it
we're
trying
to
accomplish
and
what
is
it?
The
impact
that
it's
having
on
communities
that
we
need
to
enforce?
Thank.
K
It's
first
of
all
the
guiding
principle
here:
the
kind
of
principle
I'm
assuming
was
to
come
up
with
a
set
of
regs
that
would
strike
a
balance
such
that
that
host
would
be
willing
to
make
themselves
known
to
us.
We
don't
want
to
have
a
set
of
laws
that
lead
to
hosts,
just
not
wanting
anyone
in
the
city
and
know
that
they're
there
out
there.
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
yes,
we
did
yeah,
as
our
chief
planner
was
also
discussing
really
trying
to
balance
all
the
various
interests,
so
mitigating
the
commercialization
of
residential,
but
at
the
same
time
making
it
relatively
straightforward
for
people
to
participate
by
simple
registration,
not
overly
burdensome
on
the
front
end.
But
then,
in
the
middle
as
having
the
tools,
we
need,
as
required
to
get
more
detailed
information.
We
didn't
want
a
front-end
load
and
make
the
registration
system
so
burdensome
that
people
did
not
comply.
So
that
was
that's
definitely
a
key
element
of
this.
That's.
K
L
F
L
K
We're
coming
down
to
the
the
hot-button
issue:
here's
is
the
second
Suites
and,
and
the
the
license
is
a
moot
point.
Isn't
it
when
an
inspector
comes
to
your
house,
as
happened
to
me
when,
when
making
an
apartment
for
my
daughter
who
lives
with
a
disability,
it
was
walks
like
a
doc
talks
like
a
duck,
you
got
to
put
in
a
fire
door
in
a
fire
wall.
Even
if
you
never
collect
a
penny,
a
brand
so
secondary
suite
is
the
secondary
suite
as
soon
as
there's
a
kitchen
and
a
door.
Am
I
right
through.
L
K
L
K
Right
well,
we
know
we
know
what
we
know.
One
amendment
is
probably
coming
here
something
and
when,
as
I
understand
it,
it's
it's
similar
to
San
Francisco
in
that
that
we're
probably
going
to
see
a
motion.
That's
that
says
we're
not
gonna
ban
second
suites
outright,
but
we
do
want
them
to
be
units
of
housing,
and
so
what
we're
gonna
say
you
can
rent
out
your
basement
apartment
and
that
tenant
can
treat
it
as
a
principal
residence
as
they
can
in
an
apartment
and
an
air
B&B
that
that
motion
is
coming.
K
So
there
is
nothing
in
the
regulations
that
we
have
to
stop
the
owner
of
a
home.
The
landlord
of
that
secondary
suite,
there's
nothing
in
what
we're
proposing
today
to
stop
that
landlord
from
saying
to
a
tenant
and
in
fact,
embedding
in
his
lease
language.
If
you
wanted
to
rent
out
your
second
suite,
you
and
I
are
gonna
have
an
arrangement
he
can.
He
can
be
I'll.
Do
the
listing
and
we'll
split
the
proceeds.
K
K
K
D
K
A
madam
Speaker:
can
you
stop
my
time?
I
was
at
4:10
when
I
started
to
try
and
get
his
attention.
I
did
stuff
yeah,
but
it
was
a
little
earlier
in
the
world
of
affordable
housing.
In
our
conversations
with
other
orders
of
government,
when
we
want
housing,
money
from
them
do
secondary
Suites
come
up.
Do
they
want
us
to
make
that
part
of
our
stable
of
available
housing
units?
Are
they
looking
at
and
do
they
want
us
to
look
at
incentivizing
those
secondary
suites,
always
being
added
to
our
stable
of
housing
units?
That's.
Q
K
L
L
G
L
Speaker,
it
includes
the
the
list
of
websites
that
we
had
been
able
to
identify,
but
as
I
as
I
know,
this
is
just
data
that
we
were
able
to
procure
based
on
the
relationship
and
the
willingness
primarily
of
Airbnb
an
Expedia.
To
share
that
information.
We
did
not
do
a
global
search
on
other
foreign
owned
websites.
We
do
have
those
such
as
flip
key
TripAdvisor,
home
away,
Expedia,
VRBO,
Travel,
mob
owner
direct
home
home
Lee
days,
whatever
that's
go,
premier
Suites
and
others.
L
G
L
L
G
L
L
Through
you,
madam
speaker,
I'll,
add
that
we
did
have
the
Greater
Hotel
Association
participating
throughout
the
the
regime.
That's
in
front
of
you
speaks
about
principle
residents
and
Home
Sharing.
The
issue
with
the
hotels
has
been
around
the
Khmers
and
for
us
has
been
around
the
commercialization
of
residential
properties,
ongoing,
so
I
think
to
the
GM's
point.
It
was
the
fact
that
the
commercial
use
of
residential
properties
would
be
offset
by
our
regulation.
Only
providing
for
principal
residence
of
of
owners
and
occupants
are.
G
S
So
I
don't
think
it's
an
either/or
in
this
particular
situation.
There
are
some
travelers
that
would
choose
not
to
travel
if
they
couldn't
stay
in
accommodation
such
as
supplied
by
Airbnb,
and
that's
accommodated
by
the
rules
of
regulations
that
Traci
has
talked
about.
There
are
other
travelers
that
would
would
choose
that
like
to
have
the
choice
and
would
sometimes
choose
to
stay
in
accommodation
that
is
in
a
hotel
like
surrounding
with
ie
a
condo
building
with
a
lot
of
short-term
residence
in
it.
E
Q
Q
E
Q
About
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
the
federal
government
released
a
National
Housing
Strategy
that
includes
starting
in
2020,
a
National
Housing
Benefit
National
Housing
Benefit,
which
would
provide,
on
average
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
to
assist
a
household
who
was
struggling
and
paying
the
rent.
Okay.
E
Q
E
Q
E
You
very
much
I
want
to
say
trip.
Miss
Cooke
I
want
to
ask
you
about
security
of
data,
we're
entering
into
again
a
registration
process
where
we
are
going
to
be
seeking
from
Airbnb
and
other
companies.
Personal
data
I
know
that
there's
permission
required
for
them
to
that
to
seek
permission
from
their
providers,
knowing
that
that
that
information
could
be
shared.
But
how
do
we
knowing
what's
happened
now
with
uber
and
the
data
breach
with
uber?
What
kind
of
security
provisions
are
we
going
to
put
in
into
these
agreements
that
will
protect
people.
L
L
The
other
Avenue
for
operators
to
provide
their
information
is
directly
to
the
city,
and
we
will
be
enabling
that,
from
an
online
perspective,
we
are
confident
in
our
IT
systems
and
the
security
of
the
data
that
we
retain,
which
our
city
business
records
we
are
are
not
engaged
in
advising
companies
external
to
us
on
their
cybersecurity
requirements.
We
focus
on
the
security
of
the
data
that
is
exchanged
between
us
and
the
companies
from
whom
we
receive
that
information.
So.
M
G
Keep
hearing
this
argument
that
if
we
don't
put
a
restriction
on
basement,
suites
or
basement
apartments,
that
those
that
are
renting
them
to
long-term
tenants
are
going
to
get
rid
of
their
long-term
tenants
so
that
they
can
bring
in
more
money
in
in
all
your
consultative
work
on
this
file,
have
you
seen
this
trend
happening?
I
mean
you,
you
know
give
me
one
or
two
examples:
fine,
but
have
you
seen
it
as
a
trend
on
a
broad
scale
that
we're
losing
long-term
rental.
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
it's
it's
an
extremely
complex
issue
related
to
what
people
are
doing
with
their
properties
period.
We
looked
at
this
from
the
short-term
rental
perspective.
We
did
not
specifically
ask.
Are
you
evicting
people
from
long
term?
Too
short,
we
didn't
do
that
level
of
data
to
determine
definitively
how
many
are
I
recognize,
and
what
we
did
have
is
one
of
our
key
principles
and
I
know
our
chief
planner
mentioned.
It
is
striking
this
balance,
understanding
that
we
do
have
an
availability
of
housing
problem.
L
That's
about
this
big
and
the
Airbnb
or
the
short-term
rental
component
of
that
is
a
component,
but
we
do
not
have
specific
data
to
say
how
many
did
we
know
it
occurs.
We
heard
on
both
sides
of
the
house,
as
with
all
of
these
issues,
people
who
are
able
to
stay
in
their
homes
because
they
can
short-term
rent
people
can
stay
in
their
homes
because
they
can
long-term
rent
people
are
looking
for
places
to
live
that
they
can
afford.
So
it's
affordability
issue
for
everybody,
but
as
far
as
definitive
numbers,
we
know
what
occurs.
L
L
G
G
Q
G
Q
The
chair,
I
think
part
of
the
challenge
with
respect
to
the
secondary
Suites.
Is
we
just
don't
have
sufficient
data
and
so
anta
totally
everyone
will
say?
Yes,
that's
the
cheaper
stock
and
I
actually
truly
believe
that
myself,
having
worked
in
this
business
for
forty
years,
but
part
of
the
challenge
with
respect
to
this
issue
is
we're
just
lacking
so
much
data
related
to
a
specific
housing
stock
that
you're
trying
to
make
a
decision
about,
but.
G
You
would
say:
would
you
not
the
well
the
anecdotes
and
the
general
assumptions
is
driving
public
policy.
It
is
not
accidental
that
the
federal
government
has
from
time
to
time,
maybe
the
provincial
government.
You
can
speak
to
this,
put
in
programs
recommending
programs
funding
programs
to
have
folks
put
in
secondary
units
and
they
pay
for
some
of
the
capital
work
because
of
to
increase
affordability
in
the
private
rental
stock.
Would
that
can
you
speak
to
that
absolutely.
Q
Counselor
through
the
chair,
most
of
the
housing
that
we
have
today
actually
is
what
will
solve
our
housing
crisis.
We
can't
build
it
fast
enough,
as
you
are
aware,
and
so
better
use
of
the
housing
stock
as
being
something
that
has
been
essentially
part
of
federal
and
provincial
housing
policy
for
the
last
50
years,
and
so.
Q
G
Q
Councillor
through
the
chair,
we
have
a
housing.
We
have
a
housing
plan
to
guide
council
from
2010
to
2020.
That's
the
plan
that
the
city
is
working
under.
Currently
it's
under
review
and
we'll
come
back
in
2020
I
understand
the
importance
of
approving
a
new
platform,
as
it
relates
to
short-term
rentals,
but
I
would
suggest
you
proceed
with
caution
as
to
how
far
you
explan
expand
that
platform.
Q
D
M
M
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
the
RTA,
doesn't
speak
to
the
length
of
days.
It
does
speak
to
tenancies
and
there
are
then
exceptions
to
when
the
RTA
does
not
apply,
such
as
for
the
traveling
vacationing
public
hotels,
motels.
So
there's
no
at
a
certain
number
of
days.
It
magically
trips
into
it
where
someone
is
a
tenant
and
they
could
be
paying
their
rents
weekly
there
could
be
subject
to
the
RTA.
The
issue
around
short-term
rental
is
is
new
in
this
this
scheme,
but
it
is
not
contemplated
under
the
RTA.
So.
D
The
concerns
that
have
been
expressed
are
that
people
don't
want
to
take
their
secondary
suite
and
make
it
a
full
long
term
tenancy.
They
want
to
do
it
short
and
trying
to
balance
that
so
in
the
community,
I
represent
I've
got
a
teaching
hospital
I've
got
a
college
which
people
are
in
for
short
term.
People
may
want
to
rent
a
basement
apartment
for
one
two
or
three
months.
Under
these
regulations,
would
they
be
able
to
rent
it
for
a
month
out
through.
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
the
short-term
rental
regulation
proposed,
would
not
apply
for
anyone
who
offers
the
premises
for
rent
greater
than
28
days.
This
is
about
that
continuous
churn
for
short
period
stays.
If
someone
offers
a
rental
for
one
month,
great
no
29
days
or
more,
this
bylaw
does
not
apply
the
standards
of
res
of
residential
tenancy
would
so.
D
D
L
The
PGM
gave
effect
to
not
allowing
a
secondary
suite
for
short-term
rental
basis.
Short-Term
rental
has
been
defined
as
a
period
of
time
less
than
28
days.
Anything
beyond
that.
If
I
offer
my
shirt,
my
secondary
suite
for
rent
for
a
month,
this
does
not
apply
and
the
regular
rules
around
zoning
Building
Code
fire
code
do
part.
D
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
certainly
would
depend
on
the
type
of
property,
the
neighborhood
it's
in
the
time
of
year,
the
demand.
So
it's
some.
Some
host
operators
have
indicated
that
they
make
reasonable
little
bits
of
money.
Some
make
larger
amounts
of
money.
It
really
varies
relative
to
long
term.
Tenancy
short
term
rental
is
very
contingent
on
the
circumstance
now.
D
L
L
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
recommendations
here
say:
108
no
more
than
180
days
in
a
year
for
an
entire
unit
rental
now
and
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
some
jurisdictions
have
done
less.
Some
have
done
more.
We
to
give
give
effect
to
the
principle
or
partly
give
effect
to
the
principle
residence
foundation.
We
said
180
days,
no
more,
that's
not
specific
to
secondary
suite.
That's
about
the
entire
unit
rental.
What
we
had
proposed
was
that
those
same
rules
apply
on
the
secondary
suite
basis.
The
PGM
change
cuts
those
out.
D
So
mr.
Gavin
the
same
thing:
what
if
we
only
allowed
90
days
and
then
I
second
question,
because,
oh
what
a
time
to
ask
it
is
what
have
you
got
in
for
consultation
with
the
folks
in
the
industry?
Once
we
apply
some
standards
here
to
keep
working
with
those
that
know
how
it
works?
Do
you
have
a
methodology
at
our
requirement
for
consultation,
or
is
that
a
good
thing
to
ask
you
to
do
as
well?
Okay,.
L
So
3a
madam
Speaker
I'll,
try
on
both
and
then
hopefully
leave
the
door
open
for
Shawn
if
necessary.
So
you
know
if
there's
a
cap
on
the
number
of
days
of
the
secondary
sweet
can
be
used
for
short-term
rentals.
If
that
is
permitted,
then
theoretically,
that
would
allow
for
longer
term
rentals
for
the
balance
of
the
year.
Someone
so
choose
so
again:
it's
how
they
choose
to
use
their
properties
and
whether
that
would
put
secondary
sweet
stock
on
the
long
term,
rental
market
or
not
I,
don't
know.
L
As
far
as
ongoing
consultation
I
think
councillor
Holland
had
made.
The
question
asked
the
question
earlier.
This
is
an
iterative
process.
We
don't
have
a
go
forward.
Consultation
plan
yet
because
we're
trying
to
get
through
implementing
a
regime
and
and
get
it
in
place
with
a
take
effect
date
of
June
1
of
next
year.
But
certainly
we
know
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
matter
for
ongoing
dialogue
going
forward
and
we're
always
happy
to
do
that
in
an
ever
evolving
world.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
councillor,
I
appreciate
your
effort
to
suggest
a
way
to
kind
of
find
a
compromise
if
I
could
call
it
that
but
I
think
in
a
city
as
large
as
Toronto,
where
tenants
have
security
of
tenure
and,
as
has
been
indicated,
there's
a
lot
of
legislation
with
respect
to
that
through
the
Residential
Tenancies
Act
that
you
either
have
security
or
tenure
or
you
don't,
and
the
concern
with
respect
to
those
units
not
being
available
for
rental
or
people
being
evicted
as
a
result
of
a
short-term
rental
provision.
I
still
have
those
concerns.
Q
D
D
You
talked
a
little
bit
about
advertising
with
respect
to
number
23.
Could
you
clarify
that
from
you
can
tell
me
exactly
what
that
means.
You're
talking
in
in
recommendation
B
talks
about
the
removal
of
all
short-term
rental
advertisers
that
are
not
registered
within
24
hours,
so
pre
advertising
being
available
that
has
to
be
cleared
by
your
group.
L
D
L
You,
madam
Speaker,
yes,
I,
think
we
are.
We
are
trying
to
balance
the
openness
and
the
receptiveness
towards
how
people
are
choosing
to
utilize,
the
technology
to
to
connect
for
the
purposes
of
short-term
rental
people
wanting
to
use
their
properties
or
visit
properties
as
such,
but
just
simply
trying
to
find
a
balance
of
regulation
that
also
addresses
the
community
impact
issues,
the
the
non
commercialization
of
our
residential
neighborhoods,
but
still
allowing
people
to
participate
in
a
reasonable
way.
As
the
the
industry
volt
right.
D
L
D
L
We
did
recognize
is
we
don't
want
to
be
overly
burdensome?
We
don't
need
to
tie
this
industry
into
a
very
complicated
or
complex
judicial
system,
but
rather
we
need
flexibility
to
address
issues
as
they
arise,
or
they
occur
being
mindful
that
the
operators
are
still
entitled
to
due
process
and
fairness
of
process.
D
D
D
L
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
our
regulation
speaks
to
the
rights
of
a
person
who
owns
a
property
and
a
person
who
is
a
tenant
of
a
property
to
participate
in
short-term
renting
period.
The
we
did
not
embed.
It
was
a
place
for
the
city
to
determine
whether
you
have
given
permission
or
not.
That
is
a
matter
for
Landlord
and
Tenant.
D
D
D
A
E
You
very
much,
madam
Speaker,
so
through
you
to
staff,
there's
I've
read
with
great
interest
in
article
in
the
Financial
Post.
That
says:
beware
the
big
tax
hit
that
could
be
lurking
in
your
basement.
If
you
decide
to
rent
it
out,
and
it
speaks
that
this
says
before
you
decide
to
take
on
a
tenant
in
your
principal
residence,
be
sure
to
familiarize
yourself
with
the
change
of
use
rules
which
could
limit
the
availability
of
the
principal
residence
exemption.
E
L
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
that
is
the
provision
in
the
Income
Tax
Act
that
deals
with
change
of
use
when
you're
claiming
a
principal
residence
for
capital
gains
purposes.
When
you
sell
your
principal
property
and
whether
or
not
it
was
your
principal
property
or
it
was
a
property
that
was
used
for
making
income.
So
that's
what
that
provision
deals
with.
So
certainly
that's
and
I
just
happen
to
have
read
that
recently
great
minds,
think
it
was
the
income
tax.
Actually
I
was
looking
at.
L
Don't
ask
me
why,
so
so
that's
around
the
disposal
of
your
principal
residence
and
whether
or
not
it
was
your
principal
residence
for
the
purpose
of
you
claiming
a
capital
gains
exemption
on
the
proceeds
right.
So
we
did
not
get
into
income
tax
business
here.
Certainly
the
responsibility
of
every
taxpayer
is,
if
they,
oh,
they
earn
income.
All
income
that
is
earned
is
reportable
to
the
to
the
CRA.
That
is
not
us.
We.
E
L
So
it
would
be
a
it
would
be
a
matter
for
the
rep
for
Revenue
Canada
to
adjudicate
whether
or
not
the
use
of
a
property
to
the
extent
that
it
was
used
for
a
short
term.
Rental
purpose
actually
qualifies
as
a
change
of
use
for
the
purposes
of
determining
whether
or
not
it
was
a
principal
residence
or
not.
So
you
know
that
really,
that
is
in
the
purview
of
the
CRA
and
whether
they
would
regard
this.
L
We
did
not
look
at
whether
someone
could
be
permitted
on
a
municipal
basis
to
use
their
property
for
short
term
rental,
because
it
may
or
may
not
cause
an
impact
to
when
they
sell
the
property,
and
they
want
to
claim
capital
gains
exemption
so
that
we
did
not
include
here.
It's
certainly
a
complex
piece
of
law
that
the
CRA
is
gonna
have
to
address
down
the
road.
Yes,.
S
C
You
Thank
You,
speaker
I,
just
know
where
is
mr.
Williams,
that
you've
indicated
that
this,
that
the
motions
that
are
in
front
of
Council
and
particularly
a
secondary
suite
motion
is
helpful.
Regarding
the
hotels,
we
also
have
a
report
on
this
council
meeting
about
the
impact
of
the
lack
of
hotels
on
tourism.
Do
we
not.
S
C
C
C
G
S
S
C
I'll
just
ask
the
chief
planner:
we
we've
also
approved
a
whole
bunch
of
rental
stock,
we're
approving
something
in
the
West
Don
lands.
Now
I
believe
that
it's
a
large
rental,
large
amount
of
rental,
that's
being
subsidized
I,
believe
by
the
provincial
government,
were
insuring
at
least
200
units,
and
is
that
our
intention
to
build
rental,
housing
or
approve
rental
housing
and
then
approve
those
Suites
being
rented
out
to
our
be
a
to
air
view.
Me
well.
C
C
Q
C
C
You
find
that
we
have
that
here
yet
as
far
as
whether
it's
provincial
land
city,
land,
federal
and
provincial
city
dollars,
federal
dollars
that
it's
locked
down,
that
we
don't
have
a
number
of
affordable
units,
a
lot
of
capital
going
in
to
build
that
and
ten
percent
of
that
building,
which
is
supposed
to
be
regular
rental.
Somehow
out
of
the
market
for
turn
mental.
How
can
we
enforce
that?
It.
Q
A
T
T
I
also
noticed
that
you
said
you
would
like
to
minimize
the
negative
impacts
on
housing,
affordability
and
availability.
Is
that
correct,
absolutely
correct?
Okay?
So
if
I
have,
if
I
own
a
couple
of
condos
I
live
in
one
and
I
had
the
other
one
on
short-term
rentals
after
this
legislation,
I
will
be
able
to
use
my
own
principal
residence.
If
my
tenant
wishes
to
whit
to
use
his
own
principal
residents,
they
may,
but
I
cannot
have
that
other
condo
on
the
short-term
rental
correct
you.
T
T
Your
attendance,
that
is
yours,
of
as
a
tenant,
so
if
you
are
a
tenant
on
the
middle
floor
and
I'm
the
owner
and
live
on
the
second
floor
and
I
have
another
tenant
on
the
basement,
this
is
triplex.
I
cannot
put
those
two
units
in
the
Airbnb.
My
tenants
can't
correct
correct.
That
was
your
recommendation.
Correct
two
planning
can
you
let
me
know
if
this
is
a
triplex
or
what
this
is.
R
I
had
the
benefit
of
you
showing
me
through
the
speaker
earlier
and
my
opinion
was,
and
you
you
may
yet
prove
me
wrong.
My
opinion
was
that
it
was
a
converted
dwelling
house.
In
other
words,
it
was
originally
constructed
as
a
single
dwelling
unit
and
then
at
some
point
someone
has
added
at
least
one
subordinate
dwelling
unit
or
a
secondary
suite
to
that.
There's
two.
T
So
the
difference
between
duplex
and
triplex
or
this
house,
that
has
three
apartments,
and
it
has
three
families
the
same
way
that
a
triplex
would
have
three
families
living
is
basically
zoning
language
that
says
that
a
triplex
is
the
intention
when
it's
built
versus
two
secondary
units.
The
intention
that
was
added
after
correct.
R
T
R
T
T
T
I
Thank
you.
Madam
Speaker
I
would
like
to
move
the
following
recommendation:
that
recommendation
3a
be
deleted
and
replace
with
the
following
that
named
contact
information,
phone
and
email
address
and
government
issue.
Identification
of
a
tie
that
demonstrates
compliance
with
the
principal
residence
requirement
to
be
determined
by
the
executive
director
means
belies
the
same
standards.
I
I
With
the
phone
calls
emails
indices
of
people
who
came
to
my
constituency
office
on
Saturdays
to
speak
to
me
with
regards
to
the
principal
residence
in
the
Wrentham,
these
are
young
professionals.
These
are
very
responsible
people
responsible
halls
residents
that
are
very
engaged
within
their
own
communities
and
I
have
hundreds
of
those
in
my
own
community.
I
Now
the
majority
of
hosts
tend
to
be
millenials
young
families,
homeowners,
some
of
them
that
a
little
bit
older,
they
lost
their
jobs,
and
now
some
of
them
are
struggling
to
survive
and
any
additional
income
will
help
them
to
pay
the
bills,
to
pay
the
property
taxes
and
buy
groceries.
As
I
noted
before
now.
The
report
that
before
us
with
the
municipal
agency
standards,
recommends
two
key
aspects
is
the
registration
and
licensing
aspect
for
short-term
rental.
I
They
will
have
to
be
licensed
by
the
city
as
well
now
the
route
there
is
another
report
before
us
and
that's
with
the
planning
and
growth
which
deals
with
a
zoning
aspect
within
the
principal
residence
that
allows
that
up
to
three
rooms
to
be
rented
people
could
rent
the
entire
dwelling
unit
or
home
up
280
days.
A
hormone
is
naturally
that
report
that
was
deal
with
on
November,
the
15
at
planning
growth,
the
secondary
suites,
were
totally
devoted.
They
were
worried
against
singing
other
words.
They
were
bad.
I
Madam
Speaker
members
of
council,
they
recommend
a
short-term
rental,
is
based
on
key
principles.
Now
I'm
going
to
refer
to
those
principles,
they
are
five
of
them
to
allow
people
to
rent
their
homes
for
short
period
times
number,
to
allow
great
diversity
in
tourism,
accommodation
and
that's
mainly,
to
maintain
community
stability,
minimize
public
nuisances
and
create
regulations
that
are
fairly
simple
and
ambiguous.
Easy
to
follow
for
everyone,
and
the
main
one
is
to
minimize
the
impact
of
housing,
affordability
and
availability.
I
I
A
I
Madam
speaker,
yesterday,
this
council
prove
400
shelter
beds
because
our
sheltering
system
is
running
a
full
capacity.
In
other
words,
things
are
becoming
a
crisis
when
it
comes
to
the
Communists
when
it
comes
to
people
with
in
families
out
there
with
refugees
and
so
on,
when
we
are
spending
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
to
accommodate
them.
How
fair
is
it
if
affordable
units
in
this
case
are
taking
out
of
the
market?
I
think
that
would
be
morally
wrong.
That
would
be
unjustifiable
and,
in
my
conscience,
I
can
support
that.
I
You
probably
heard
last
week
in
the
news
of
his
turbines
and
people
running
for
cover,
and
that
happened
to
be
in
my
war
on
that
import
with
people
being
stabbed.
They're
insured
I
will
never
compromise
the
integrity
of
cept
in
my
community
for
something
like
this
I
do
support
I
do
support
what's
being
proposed
in
principal
residences,
because
that
makes
that
a
sense
to
help
a
lot
of
people
out,
but
otherwise
I'm
sorry,
I
won't.
Thank
you
very
cute.
G
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
heard
the
councillors
speaking
about
the
individual
in
his
writing.
That
was
trying
to
make
ends
meet
and
was
using
this
in
order
to
us
to
to
enhance
his
the
the
payment
of
his
mortgage.
Now.
My
question
on
the
motion.
The
counselor
has
he
taken
into
account
when
he's
supporting
this
and
is
putting
this
motion
forward
the
amount
of
money
that
we
will
be
losing
on
HST
and
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
losing
its
destination
tax.
I
G
I
G
A
A
T
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
do
have
two
motions.
One
of
them
is
to
clarify
and
to
go
in
accordance
with
the
key
principle
of
having
any
tenant
or
owner
that
has
to
have
his
primary
residence
as
part
of
the
short-term
rental,
so
to
make
sure
that
we're
consistent
with
all
models
of
housing
to
be
able
to
use
it
on
short-term
rentals,
the
other
one
is
to
continue
to
find
ways
to
improve
secondary
Suites,
the
construction,
the
approval,
the
incentives
of
secondary
Suites,
because
it
is
an
important
form
of
housing
in
our
city.
T
I'd
like
to
start
by
saying
that
I
think
what
we're
doing
here
today
is
really
important
for
a
few
industries,
and
it's
a
good
thing:
we're
regulating
short-term
rentals
in
our
city,
and
they
have
a
role
to
play.
They
can
be
a
huge
benefit
for
our
tourism
industry,
for
even
housing
industry.
If
done,
right
and
I
think
that
is.
The
balance
that
we
need
to
strike
in
here
is
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
is
of
benefit
for
the
city
as
a
whole.
T
So
I
am
in
favor
of
the
three
up
to
the
three
and
sitting,
but
you
know
beds
I'm
in
in
favor
of
the
whole
unit,
if
you're
going
away
for
a
few
months
up
to
180
days
absolutely
participate,
but
there's
50%
of
our
city
that
are
homeowners.
50%
of
our
city
that
are
renters
and
questions
of
affordability,
unfortunately,
are
being
posed
to
all
of
them.
Three
levels
of
government
and
all
Torontonians
today
face
questions
of
affordability.
T
Doesn't
matter
if
you
rent
doesn't
matter
if
you
own,
so
by
creating
this
balancing
where,
yes,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
use
some
of
it
in
short-term,
rentals
or
long-term
renters
I
think
we
are
assisting
homeowners
on
the
other
side,
you
need
to
make
sure
that
the
supply
of
rental
is
available
and
we
produce
set
one-fifth
of
our
rental
stock
in
this
city.
Is
produced
by
secondary
units,
we
are
saying
to
anybody
that
owns
a
condo,
that
you
cannot
put
it
on
short
term
rental.
T
T
I
have
bidding
wars
in
my
ward
to
for
people
to
rent,
we
want
to
attract
talent
to
come
to
our
company's
tech
companies.
Where
are
they
gonna
live?
Where
are
they
gonna
live?
We
spend
millions
of
dollars
trying
to
create
rental,
two
hundred
and
fifty
five
million
dollars.
This
city
will
be
giving
us
a
cent
it's
to
create,
create
rental
in
our
city
to
create
this
year
we
celebrated
because
of
the
first
time
we've
been
able
to
attain
our
goal
of
1000
rental
units.
T
We
need
to
produce
16,000
rental
units
in
our
city
just
to
have
a
healthy
vacancy
rate.
We
need
everybody's
participation
on
this
issue.
We
have
been
challenging
the
province
and
now
we're
gonna
say
yes,
give
us
a
fair,
a
long-term,
fair
housing
strategy
and
part
of
it
is
secondary
units
all,
but
we're
gonna
put
these
on
air
beyond
on
short-term
rentals.
T
I
know
that
Toronto
will
be
and
will
continue
to
be
great
posts
to
the
many
visitors
that
will
continue
to
come
to
our
city
and
be
available
to
our
short-term
rentals
and
make
benefit
of
short-term
rentals.
But
let's
ensure
that
we're
gonna
be
great
hosts
for
the
residents
of
the
city
as
well
and
for
the
residents
that
want
to
live
in
this
city
as
well,
and
that's
why
we
need
to
strike
that
balance
today.
Okay,.
A
I
I
Question
one:
your
motions
that
should
say
that
short-term
rentals,
if
that
exclusive
exclusively
except
a
separate
unit,
also
contain
his
Dutch,
and
there
was
a
question
I
believe
from
one
member
of
council
who
was
saying
that
the
landlord
may
lose
control
if
that
units
going
to
be
rented
and
that's
when
we
come
sure
when
short
term
rental.
So
my
question
to
you
is
this:
a
direct
relationship
between
the
landlord
and
the
tenant
and
the
landlord
tenant
Act.
T
The
intention
is
that
we
stay
true
to
our
principle,
which
is
to
allow
owners
and
tenants
to
participate
in
short-term
rentals
if
it
is
their
primary
residency,
so
it
doesn't
mean
if
you
rent
or
own
a
condo
downtown.
It
doesn't
mean
if
you
live
or
rent
a
unit
in
a
triplex.
It
doesn't
matter
if
you,
if
you
live
or
rent
in
a
secondary
unit,
everybody
in
the
City
of
Toronto
will
have
the
same
capability
of
participate
in
short-term
right
days.
My.
I
Second
question:
is
that
just
I'm
just
getting
it
here,
but
it's
quite
lengthy
but
in
essence,
what
we're
asking
city
staff
to
report
on
the
possibility
to
refer
back
to
Council
on
the
feasibility
of
allowing
additional
secondary
suites
across
the
city,
especially
property.
So
houses,
for
example,
that
within
the
the
envelope
of
the
existing,
can
create
attic
basement.
T
T
Of
our
most
of
our
zoning
is
for
single-family
homes,
most
of
the
city,
the
land
in
our
city.
We
need
to
use
that
smarter.
We
need
to
invest,
need
to
be
doing
a
lot
more
work
to
create,
create
the
missing
middle
in
our
city,
to
create
things
like
laneway
housing
to
create
things
like
secondary
Suites.
All
these
are
part
of
the
housing
solution.
We
need
to
do
a
much
better
job
at
pushing
for
these
things
and
that's
what
we're
doing
as
a
city
I
mean.
T
I
To
convince
perhaps
property
owners
out
there
if
all
the
routes
were
in
place,
is
your
intention
within
this
motion
to
create
incentives,
perhaps
to
help
to
assist
property
owners?
Are
there
to
create
more
units?
Setting
agents
will
bring
additional
revenue
to
them
to
help
them
out
in
terms
of
paying
them
or
whatever
else,
and
also
to
create
more
rental
units?
Is
that
the
intention
overall
of
this
or
this
motion.