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City Council, meeting 11, October 29, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Bxa1rHAok
B
Who
thank
you
very
much
speaker
and
good
morning
to
council
colleagues,
and
it's
just
us
as
just
a
source
of
great
pride
to
have
with
us
this
morning.
Some
of
the
athletes
from
the
GTA,
some
of
whom
have
moved
here
to
do
their
training
and
I,
was
asking
them
how
their
liking
living
in
Toronto
and
forks.
They
got
positive
reviews
for
most
of
them,
which
were
always
happy
to
hear,
but
I'm
so
happy.
They
could
be
here
at
City,
Council
today
and
they're
joined
by
David
Schumacher.
B
And
we
all
remember
I,
think
was
such
incredible
excitement
actually
having
an
opportunity
to
see
not
only
our
own
athletes
in
action
here
in
Toronto
in
2015
the
preceding
games,
but
also
to
see
other
athletes
from
around
the
world
to
see
the
level
of
competition
that
was
represented
by
those
games.
We
had
here
in
Toronto
and
I'm
sure
that
level
of
competition
was
matched
by
what
went
on
in
Peru
and
so
on.
B
Your
behalf,
I
want
to
offer
our
congratulations
to
the
athletes
and
I'll
introduce
them
by
name
in
a
moment
for
their
incredible
hard
work.
Most
of
them
were
telling
me
just
when
we're
chatting
before
we
convened
this
meeting,
that
they,
of
course
devote
themselves
full
time
to
training
and
to
preparing
for
these
games,
and
it
is
something
that
is
I,
think
a
real
testament
to
their
determination
and
their
discipline
that
they
do.
That
and
they've
achieved
the
level
of
excellence
that
they
have.
B
These
men
and
women
who
are
here
with
us
in
the
chamber
today,
are
all
people
who
are
from
our
great
city.
They
are
heroes
who
inspired
us
and
who
continue
to
inspire
us
through
their
athleticism
and
their
great
sportsmanship
during
the
games
before
and
after
and
I
think
we're
really
lucky
to
have
people
like
this,
who
represent
us,
represent
our
country
and
represent
our
city
so
well,
and
it's
a
real
honor
to
have
all
of
you
here
today
to
be
with
us.
B
Javon
Val
fer
wrestling
Sara,
Douglas
sailing,
Crispin
dwayne,
us
archery,
natalie,
garcia,
gymnastics,
justin,
karst,
a
gymnastics,
Pierce
Lapage,
decathlon,
Katherine,
Uchida
gymnastics,
Bryan,
yang
badminton,
Jessica,
Guo,
fencing
and
from
our
Paralympic
wheelchair
basketball
team.
Robert
bo
hedges,
who's
right
here
up
there
beside
me.
B
So
to
you
all,
congratulations
and
thank
you
for
representing
us
so
well,
representing
not
just
our
country,
but
we're
proud
that
you
represented
our
city
and
we
hope
you
all
continue
to
live
here
and
continue
to
bless
us
with
your
talent
and
invite
your
friends
to
come
here
too,
because
we
want
as
many
great
athletes
to
live
here
as
possible,
and
we
are
very
much
aware
of
the
contribution
that
you
make
that
Sports
makes
that
athletics
makes
to
a
healthy
and
vibrant
city.
So,
thank
you
very
much
now.
B
A
D
C
A
B
As
a
result
of
this
agreement,
if
you
see
fit
to
approve
it
over
the
next
day
or
so,
we
will
have
almost
30
billion
dollars
invested
by
other
governments
in
Toronto
transit
expansion,
30
billion
dollars,
invested
by
other
governments
in
Toronto
transit
expansion.
This
in
turn,
will
free
up
up
to
five
billion
dollars
to
invest
in
urgent
state
of
good
repair
and
city
priority
transit
projects,
including
the
Scarborough
East
Eglinton,
East,
LRT
and
waterfront
transit.
The
agreement
also
ensures
that
Toronto,
the
City
of
Toronto
retains
ownership
of
the
existing
subway
network.
B
There
will
be
no
upload
and
the
TTC
retains
operations
of
the
transit
network.
The
province
will
also
cover
sunk
costs
for
transit
planning
and
any
cost
overruns
for
the
for
subway
projects
that
are
covered
by
the
agreement.
This
agreement,
I
believe
and
the
executive
committee
concurred
in
that
is
a
good
deal
for
the
city
as
a
whole
and
for
transit
riders.
B
In
particular,
we
had
more
than
sixty
deputations
at
the
executive
committee
last
week,
most
of
whom
came
to
address
the
local
impacts
of
the
proposed
Ontario
line
on
their
communities
we
heard
from
those
residents
and
from
their
local
counselor,
counselor
Fletcher
and
in
response
we
made
amendments
to
this
item
requesting
discussions
that
we
will
have
on
an
ongoing
basis
with
Metrolinx
and
with
the
province
to
mitigate
the
concerns
that
were
raised
by
the
residents.
Now
beyond
this
groundbreaking
transit
agreement.
B
We
also
dealt
with
a
major
transformation
of
the
city's
real
estate
assets
with
a
program
that
we've
called
modern
teo.
It's
a
five-year
plan
that
I'm
very
hopeful
the
council
will
see
fit
to
approve
today,
and
it
will
lead
to
750
million
dollars
in
savings
over
the
next
25
years.
Modern
teo
will
reduce
the
city's
office
locations
from
50
to
220,
mainly
by
doing
away
with
leases
that
are
coming
due
in
the
upcoming
years,
in
other
words,
the
lease
of
outside
space
by
the
city.
B
Speaker
are
in
need
of
renovation
and
updating,
and
this
will
allow
us
in
turn,
as
well,
at
the
same
time
to
have
those
jobs
be
more
equitably
spread
through
the
city,
as
opposed
to
all
being
in
expensive,
downtown
space.
The
the
program
when
fully
implemented,
will
decrease
the
city's
overall
footprint
in
terms
of
office
space
by
25
percent,
and
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
I
think
people
expect
to
see
this
government
do
at
a
time
of
scarce
resources.
B
So
I
look
forward
to
the
debates
on
both
of
these
items
today
and
I
will
simply
say
this
in
concluding,
in
particular,
on
the
transit
item.
I
think
people
should
think
back
to
where
we
were
a
year
ago.
Think
back
to
where
we
were
a
year
ago,
where
we
had
a
government
that
was
committed
at
that
time
and
was
taking
legislative
steps
to
begin
to
upload
the
subway
they
were
giving
every
indication.
They
were
gonna,
take
arbitrary
steps
to
build
projects,
whatever
our
input
might
have
been
or
might
not
have
been
on
those
projects.
B
That
I
think
is
a
significant
step
forward
on
the
thing
that
we're
all
elected
to
do,
which
is
to
work
with
the
other
governments
to
try
and
deal
as
best
we
can,
with
the
differences
that
are
inevitably
going
to
exist
between
and
among
us,
to
get
transit
built
for
the
people
of
Toronto
and
I.
Think
this
is
a
once-in-a-lifetime
chance,
with
the
three
governments
all
aligned
for
us
to
send
a
signal.
Saying
yes,
we're
in
for
this.
We
want
to
get
this
built.
We
want
to
move
forward.
We
want
to
get
it
done.
B
A
E
A
F
Madam
Speaker
I
simply
like
to
draw
members
attention
to
two
of
the
specific
items
are
on
the
EDC
agenda:
missus
EC,
8.6,
strategic
priorities
for
cultural
investment,
twenty
twenty
to
twenty,
twenty
twenty
to
twenty
twenty
four.
It
really.
The
report
basically
look
at
the
new
strategic
priorities
that
are
going
to
guide
the
city's
investment
in
the
cultural
sector
for
the
next
five
years.
F
The
most
part,
our
priorities
is
here
to
to
show
what
the
EDC
divisional
strategy
is
in
terms
of
what
we're
going
to
do.
It
also
talks
about
the
opportunities,
and
so
on
is
a
growing
inequality
that
is
being
faced
in
the
city
with
respect
to
opportunities
and
challenges
and
so
on,
and
we
need
to
act
boldly.
We
need
to
be
decisive
in
terms
of
how
we
address
some
of
these
particular
issues.
Looking
at
the
the
rising
property
cost
that
threatens
as
well
to
displace
Toronto's
cultural
venues
and
places
for
artists
to
to
work.
F
We
also
need
to
take
a
look
at
peer
cities,
opportunity
in
terms
of
the
the
opportunity
to
attract
and
and
to
bring
more
businesses
and
investment
to
the
city
Toronto,
creating
this
vibrancy
that
we
need
with
respect
to
our
city
and
so
on.
We
also
need
to
be
looking
at
a
cultural
programming
and
so
on
in
terms
of
how
to
ensure
the
cultural
workforce
become
more
inclusive
in
a
very
diverse
City.
F
I
can't
stress
that
enough,
but
of
course,
diversity
with
inclusion
and
the
representation
in
this
sector.
One
thing:
that's
not
on
the
report
here,
speaker
that
we're
actually
working
on
is
blockchain
opportunities
for
this
SME
small,
medium
sized
enterprises.
That
is
something
that
we
want
to
look
at.
One
look
at
creating
a
center
of
excellence
for
blockchain
in
this
city,
great
opportunity
in
this
particular
area.
The
other
area
speaker
that
I
simply
want
members
to
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
is
EC
8.8,
which
is
a
realignment
of
the
two
significant
cultural
Grants
Program.
A
G
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
aided
the
infrastructure
Environment
Committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
becomes
presented
for
consideration.
I
would
just
bring
your
attention
to
two
items.
Ie
8.5
was
this,
which
is
an
update
on
flood
mitigation
and
damage
repair
from
Toronto's
waterfront
and
Toronto
Island
Park
a
very
important
discussion,
either
through
climate
change
or
through
our
ability
to
protect
our
precious
water
from
assets
and
ie.
Eight
point:
seven
automata
mated
vehicles.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
A
I
A
I
A
J
H
Do
thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
The
report
from
meeting
nine
of
the
North
York
Community
Council,
is
an
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration.
I
would
also
like
to
add
at
this
time
that
we're
our
thoughts
and
prayers
I
guess
are
with
councillor
Jay
Robinson
as
she
undergoes
treatment
for
breast
cancer.
She
will
she's
a
vital
part
of
North,
York
and
I'm
sure
all
of
us
agree.
We
want
her
back
here
soon
with
a
speedy
recovery.
Thank.
A
E
A
D
A
L
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker.
On
page
5,
EC,
8.8,
realignment
of
to
cultural
grants,
programs,
as
well
as
EC
8.6,
establishing
strategic
priorities
for
a
cultural
investment
2020
to
2024
I
am
a
board
member
of
the
Toronto
biannual
art
and
in
the
with
with
the
greatest
conservation,
sorry
a
sort
of
mind
to
to
to
interest.
There
may
be
a
conflict
in
the
future
because
it
deals
with
grants.
A
F
A
You
members
I
will
not
review
the
order
paper.
We
have
three
deferred
items
on
the
agenda:
ph
8.8
on
response
to
the
Auditor
General's
outstanding
recommendation
regarding
section
37
and
section
45
funds
not
received
in
2008
and
2017
approvals,
ny
8.3
on
the
final
reports.
Only
bylaw
amendment
application
for
$12.99
Don,
Mills,
Road
and
NY
8.4
on
alterations
to
a
designated
heritage
property
at
$12.99,
Don,
Mills,
Road
and
authority
to
enter
into
a
heritage,
easement
agreement.
A
The
mayor
has
designated
items
ex9
point
one
had
at
run:
Ontario
transit,
update
in
item
e
x,
9.2
headed
modern
teal,
citywide,
real
estate
strategy
and
office
portfolio.
As
this
key
matters
for
this
meeting,
the
these
will
be
the
first
items
of
business
today
notices
emotions
are
scheduled
to
be
dealt
with
at
2:00
p.m.
tomorrow.
Only
if
the
mayor's
key
matters
are
completed,
I
propose
a
City
Council
set
a
time
for
a
closed
session
if
required
later
in
them.
In
the
meeting
the
city
clerk
has
noted.
A
The
items
that
members
wish
to
hold
I
will
now
go
through
the
items
listed
on
the
order
paper
to
take
additional
holds.
I
will
recognize,
requests
to
make
matters
originate.
I'm
specific
after
I
go
through
the
items
for
additional
holds.
Once
the
order
paper
has
been
approved
by
council.
Any
change
for
need
a
2/3
vote.
A
M
A
L
A
M
N
A
G
O
D
A
A
A
P
Speaker
I'm,
advised
by
the
clerk's
I,
need
to
read.
It
so
allows
members
to
bear
with
me
for
a
moment
and
it
is
to
bring
the
Audit
Committee
agenda
forward
to
this
meeting
that,
in
accordance
with
section
27
7.10
of
council
procedure,
City
Council
remove
items,
au
4.1
headed
cyber
safety,
a
robust
cybersecurity
program
needed
to
mitigate
current
and
emerging
threats.
P
A
you,
4.2
headed
investigation
into
allegations
of
reprisal
reprisal
not
found,
but
lessons
learned,
au
4.3,
headed
Auditor,
General's,
2019
status
report
and
outstanding
audit
recommendations
for
city
divisions
in
corporate
services
and
Finance
and
Treasury
services.
Au
4.4,
headed
review
of
Toronto
Transit
Commission
revenue
operations,
phase,
2,
presto,
TTC,
fare
equipment
and
presto
revenue.
P
Au
4.5
had
it
safeguarding
rent
gear
to
income
assistance,
ensuring
only
eligible
people
benefit;
au,
4.6,
hadn't
fleet
services,
operational
review
phase,
2,
stronger
asset
management
needed
au
4.9,
headed
Auditor,
General's,
Office,
2020,
work
plan,
au,
4.10,
headed
Auditor,
General's
2019,
consolidated
status,
reporter
notes,
any
audit
recommendations,
au
14,
point
11.
Excuse
me:
au
4.11,
headed
Auditor,
General's,
Office,
forensics
unit
status
report
and
outstanding
recommendations,
au
4.17,
headed
Auditor,
General's
Office
report
on
the
results
of
applying
specified
auditing
procedures
to
financial
information.
P
Other
than
financial
statements
for
the
year
ended,
December,
31st,
2018,
au
4.18,
headed
transparency
in
the
city's
financial
information
au
4.21,
headed
arenas,
2018
audited,
financial
statements,
update
and
au
4.22,
headed
community
centers
2018
audited
financial
statements
update
from
the
audit
committee
and
bring
these
items
forward
to
City
Council
for
consideration.
Thank.
D
P
A
P
You
counselor
for
the
the
question
that's
correct
it
would.
It
would
be
because
of
the
proximity
of
the
Audit
Committee
meeting
to
this
meeting.
It
didn't
make
this
meetings
agenda.
It
would
otherwise
be
dealt
with
in
a
month
from
now
and
I.
Think
I
sent
a
note
around
to
members
just
to
give
them
the
heads
up
to
have
a
look
at
the
audit
materials.
Thank
you.
C
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker,
that,
in
accordance
with
section
27,
7-7
21-0
of
council
procedures,
City
Council,
remove
item
ie,
8.6,
headed
winter
maintenance
program
review
from
the
infrastructure
environment
committee
and
bring
the
item
forward
to
City
Council
for
consideration.
I!
Don't
do
this
pardon
me
I!
Don't
do
this
lightly!
C
Colleagues,
but
I
think
that
that
our
infrastructure
and
environment
committee
made
an
error
in
not
allowing
this
item
to
proceed
to
City
Council.
This
will
be
our
last
chance
to
look
at
improving
snow
clearing
for
our
roads.
For
this
our
last
chance
we
hired
a
consultant
at
great
expense
as
councillor
Minh
and
Wong
pointed
out,
because
we
don't
have
didn't,
have
the
expertise
in-house
to
do
the
review
that
the
mayor
asked
for
last
February
I
asked
for
a
similar
review,
albeit
his
was
more
robust,
so
I
stood
mine
down
and
his
went
forward.
C
That
review
came
back
with
a
consultant's
report
that
said,
do
a
pilot.
They
scanned
the
jurisdictions
around
North
America
and
said:
do
a
pilot,
250
kilometers
here?
Are
your
technologies
available?
Here's
your
capacity
and
that
that
went
to
city
staff?
What
came
to
infrastructure
and
environment
was
a
much
much
smaller
pilot,
one
that
won't
necessarily
give
us
the
information
we
need
and
certainly
won't
give
the
level
of
support
to
the
people
of
Toronto
that
need
it
as
we
saw
last
year
now.
C
Last
summer
my
daughter
was
still
in
a
stroller
I'm,
pretty
able-bodied
I
can
climb
through
snow
banks
sure,
but
on
several
occasions
after
that
same
major
snowfall
I'd
be
walking
my
daughter
to
go
to
the
grocery
store.
We
don't
own.
A
car
that's
not
an
option
for
me.
The
road
clearing
helps
me
on
my
bike,
but
not
when
I'm
pushing
the
stroller
on
several
occasions.
I
had
to
physically
lift
up
the
stroller
with
my
daughter
in
it
and
full
of
groceries
and
walk
it.
10
15
30
feet
through
a
snowbank
again.
C
I
can
do
that
I'm
fortunate
enough.
That
I
can
do
that.
There
are
many
in
our
city
that
cannot.
There
are
many
that
live
in
these
neighborhoods
that
cannot.
Then
there
was
right
in
putting
forward
the
request
for
staff
to
review
this
pilot
I'm
just
afraid
that
were
not
being
ambitious
enough
in
actually
rolling
out
the
pilot
that
consultant
said
and
if
I
could
put
the
overhead
on
for
a
second
I
know,
I
didn't
tell
a
B,
but
there's
a
slide
on
the
overhead
I
think
we
should
recognize.
This
is
from
the
consultants
report.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
This
this
item
was
debated
thoughtfully
and
thoroughly.
At
committee.
We
decided
to
have
counselor
Layton.
Take
this
with
him
to
his
colleagues
at
Budget,
Committee
I
offered
to
write
a
letter
of
introduction
to
the
budget
chief,
so
he
can
get
it
on
the
agenda
at
that
committee.
This
is
a
funding
issue
to
have
a
divisive
debate
here
that
will
go
on
for
hours
which
will
pit
the
inner
the
inner
suburbs
versus
the
downtown
is
unhealthy.
Those
debates
are
from
councils
past.
This
is
something
we
don't
want
here.
H
If
you
start
bringing
this
to
the
council,
it's
nothing
but
a
Trojan
horse
motion
in
which
we're
gonna
start
talking
about
new
blush,
high-level
transit,
rideshare,
cycling
infrastructure
and
the
disparities
of
those
public
policy
issues
across
the
city.
I
strongly
urge
you
not
to
bring
it
on
the
council
floor
I
urge
councillor
Layton
to
take
it
to
Budget
Committee
and
see
what
funding
shortfalls
are
there
and
then
bring
it
back
as
part
of
the
2020
budget
debate.
H
J
J
Secondly,
just
so
I
just
want
to
correct
the
record
four
counts
relating
yes
it.
This
report
did
cost
a
lot
of
money,
and
my
point
was
that
it
should
have
been
done
by
staff,
because
we
have
many
staff
doing
policy
and
all
sorts
of
things
and
I
think
that
the
report
instead
of
spending
I,
think
something
like
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
seems
to
be
my
recollection.
We
could
have
saved
that
money
and
that
my
third
point
that
I
raised
that
the
committee
was
for
winter
maintenance
report.
J
The
money
was
taken
out
of
capital,
which
you
know
that
is
another
councillor.
Pasternak
raised
this
issue
before,
and
this
is
the
second
time
that
does
happen,
but
I,
but
I
will
say
this.
It
was
done
it.
It
was
discussed
at
committee
and
the
third
point-
and
this
is
actually
really
important-
councillor
and
lighten-
may
not
understand
the
arrangements
in
other
places
outside
that
downtown.
In
the
suburbs
we
have
trouble
pushing
around
baby
carriages
all
over
the
city,
even
when
they're
plowed.
So
this
is
not.
J
You
know
to
say
that
there's
some
sort
of
special
problem
in
the
downtown
with
regard
to
pushing
things
and
and
and
if
people
with
mobility
problems
is
completely
false.
Those
problems
still
exist
in
the
suburbs,
so
it
is,
it
is
completely.
It
is
a
fundamental
lack
of
the
understanding
of
the
rest
of
the
city
when,
when
that
statement
is
made,
but
we
had
that
discussion
in
committee
I
think
councillor
Pasternak
is
right.
This
is
a
budget
matter
in
many
ways
and
it
should
be
dealt
with
there.
Thank.
E
You
Speaker
I
want
to
pick
up
I
thought
that
the
deputy
mayor
just
had,
which
is
that
Torontonians,
have
problems
navigating
our
streets
in
the
winter.
If
you
have
a
walker,
a
scooter,
a
stroller,
if
you
walk
with
a
cane
if
you're
carrying
a
heavy
load-
and
he
says
well,
you
know
we
don't
want
to
look
at
this
pilot
because
you
know
there
are
other
places
in
the
city
where
there
are
problems
too.
E
There
are
several
several
streets
in
my
ward,
where
there
are
long
stretches
of
privately
held
property,
sometimes
held
by
institutions,
maybe
even
the
school
board
and
those
don't
get
cleaned
in
a
timely
fashion.
Sometimes
these
are
on
Hills,
so
you
have
people
who
literally
cannot
get
out
of
their
homes
and
up
the
street
to
the
bus.
Stop
they
are
house
bound
because
they
have
some
mobility
challenge
or
they
have
small
children.
They
have
to
take
with
them.
We
claim
to
take
seriously
the
fact
that
our
streets
are
not
safe
for
pedestrians
right
now.
E
Councillor
Layton
and
the
mayor
have
done
work
to
try
to
deal
with
the
particular
hazard
that
happens
in
the
winter
and
instead
of
this
council
having
that
information
in
front
of
it,
so
that
we
as
a
council
can
give
directions
to
city
staff
to
prepare
something
so
that
we
can
debate
it
with
information
in
front
of
us
during
the
budget.
Some
members
of
this
council
just
want
it
swept
away.
E
It
is
disingenuous
in
the
worst
way
to
say:
oh
just
deal
with
it
at
budget
when
there
has
been
no
policy
debate
at
this
council
based
on
the
study
that
their
works
committee
had
in
front
of
it.
We
decide
policy,
give
directions
to
staff,
to
cost
the
implementation
of
the
policy
and
then
debated
at
budget
time.
The
actions
taken
at
the
infrastructure,
Environment
Committee
mean
that
we
will
not
be
in
a
position
to
do
that.
E
C
M
Clearing
East
York
has
snow
clearing,
and
that
is
where
a
senior
can
get
their
sidewalk
cleared
in
front
of
their
home
because
there
don't
have
the
mobility
to
do
that.
However,
once
your
sidewalks
cleared
in
front
of
your
home,
you
can't
move
up
and
down
the
street
because
it
doesn't
mean
everybody
else's.
M
Sidewalk
is
cleared
and
we
do
have
something
where
you
go
out
and
people
have
to
48
hours
and
then
they
might
get
a
ticket
or
they
might
get
a
fine
or
the
city
might
come
and
do
it,
but
really
and
truly
as
far
as
getting
mobility
in
the
wintertime
and
having
everybody
move
around,
then
this
is
a
real
problem.
Can't
just
have
right
in
front
of
your
25
feet
cleared
and
nowhere
else,
that's
the
first
thing.
A
A
M
The
substance
well
I'm
bringing
it
forward
because
there's
there
is
unfairness
completely
and
not
having
this
here
and
there's
unfairness
for
citizens,
many
probably
800,000
of
them
that
they
are
not
having
this
council
debate
this
issue,
so
the
former
East
York
had
snow
clearing.
It
was
moved
down
to
the
boundary
in
order
to
cover
both
wards.
29
and
31
formula
counts
as
councillors,
Fraga,
Dacus
and
and
Davis
I'd
said.
Could
you
please
move
this
down
and
streets
that
are
the
same
and
was
told
it's
just
Ward
specific?
M
Well
folks,
we
all
have
bigger
Ward's
and
time
to
make
it
Ward
specific.
All
the
way
where
it
was
supposed
to
go.
I
also
think
it's
very
hard,
madam
Speaker,
to
have
the
chair
of
the
committee,
be
so
disparaging
about
the
City
of
Toronto,
the
old
city
and
say:
well
you
if
we
don't
have
bike
lanes.
If
we
don't
have
new
me
Blanche,
if
we
don't
have
everything
else,
you're
not
having
snow
clearing
and
I
find
that
very
serious
I'm
extremely
extremely
disappointed.
It
came
the
committee
chair,
sir.
E
This
this
happens
year
after
year
after
year,
and
this
this
is
I
mean
this
really
is
a
reflection
of
representative
democracy.
See
here
well,
you're,
hearing
from
counselors
in
the
old
city
of
Toronto,
including
myself,
now
is
that
legacy
City
of
Toronto
is.
That
is
that
this
is
a
a
genuine
and
real
concern
by
residents
in
our
communities.
E
This
is
this
impacts
our
lives
every
single
day
in
every
single
night,
during
the
winter
season
we
live
in
a
Canadian
city
and,
as
kestrel
Aiden
pointed
out,
this
is
our
last
opportunity
to
address
this
coming
season.
It's
getting
cold
out
now,
it's
gonna
get
cold
in
the
next
week.
It's
gonna
get
colder
in
the
next
month.
This.
What
happens
here
and
there's
gonna
be
coming
days
when
accessibility
and
safety-
it's
not
just
rhetoric
that
we're
using
it
legitimately
is
a
concern.
There
are
seniors
who
have
mobility
challenges
and
have
trouble
getting
down
the
sidewalks.
E
E
The
mayor
when,
when
residents
were
outraged
about
the
low
standard
of
snow
clearing
last
winter,
stood
up
and
said:
okay,
we're
going
to
address
this.
We're
gonna
deal
with
this,
so
many
people
here
said
that
they
cared
about
it.
And
if
you
look
at
this,
I
mean
does
it
look
like
they
care
at
all
whatsoever,
I'm,
not
convinced
at
all.
E
That's
what
I'm
arguing
that's
what
my
colleagues
are
arguing
and
by
the
way,
with
respect
to
councillor
Pasternak's
comments,
I
think
that
was
really
unfair
to
house
for
lady
and
the
reason
they
say
that
is
because
what
we're
asking
for
is
not
to
go
to
the
law
lowest
common
denominator
for
for
residents
across
the
city.
It's
about
bringing
up
the
standards
for
every
residence.
E
If
you
live
in
Scarborough
and
you
walk
downtown
or
if
you
live
in
downtown,
you
want
to
walk
in
North,
York
or
anywhere
in
between
that
every
resolution
have
the
opportunity
you
walk
safely
and
have
an
accessible
city.
That's
caring!
That's
caring
for
them!
That's
what
we
should
be
doing.
So
what
is
this
really
about?
Why
is
this
being
shoved
off?
Because
this
council
isn't
serious
about
this
I'm,
not
convinced
it
is
I'm,
not
convinced
this
mirrors
either
or
else
he'd
whip.
You
guys
to
vote
for
it.
E
That's
the
reality
here
and
what
what
I
see
is
that
we
just
don't
to
spend
the
money
on
this.
This
is
not
a
priority
and
I
think
we
need
a
reality
check
because
all
of
you,
you
work
here.
You're
gonna
be
walking
downtown,
try
bringing
your
kids
down
here,
try
walking
up
with
a
friend
who's
in
a
wheelchair
or
on
crutches
or
moving
with
the
cane
try
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
be
leaders
here
and
far
too
often
we
fail.
This
is
a
moment
that
we
can
step
up.
It's
your
choice.
I
Do
as
well
take
issue
with
the
statement
that
bringing
this
matter
to
the
floor
of
council
would
be
divisive.
I
actually
believe
that
being
divisive
is
actually
not
addressing
heads
on
an
inequity
that
exists
in
our
city
and
when
you
ignore
something
that
councilors
downtown
year
after
year,
bring
to
this
chamber
on
behalf
of
our
constituents
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
ignoring
that
I
think
that
is
being
divisive.
So
I
would
like
to
have
this
matter
discussed
in
here,
because
to
have
a
big
part
of
the
city
where
the
majority
of
people
walk.
I
I
The
city
had
issues
with
snow
clearing
last
year
and
I
didn't
see
anything
in
this
report
and
I'm
wondering
how
we're
gonna
explain
to
our
constituents
when,
if
something
happens
this
winter
and
again,
we
don't
have
the
capabilities
of
properly
dealing
with
the
contracts
that
we
have.
That
is
why
I
would
like
to
have
that
that
issue
brought
to
us
in
here.
I
It
is
to
address
the
inequity
that
we
have
on
on
sidewalk
cleaning,
but
as
well
to
understand
how
we're
gonna
respond
to
these
scenarios
that
we
have
that
are
more
common
now
than
ever,
and
that
I
felt
this
season
and
I
heard
from
my
constituents.
They
felt
the
same
way
that
we
were
not
able
to
respond
and
that's
why
I
think
we
should
be
discussing
this
here
and
should
be
brought
to
the
floor
of
council
and
we
support
supporting
councilor
Layden.
I
L
L
The
City
of
Toronto
has
obligations
to
meet
the
Ontario
for
the
accessibility
for
Ontarians
with
Disabilities
Act,
and
that
means
that
our
obligations
extend
to
that
of
making
sure
that
the
services
that
the
City
of
Toronto
provide,
including
access
to
public
services,
access
to
public
spaces,
must
be
free
of
all
barriers,
whether
it's
temporary
barriers
because
of
a
heavy
snowfall
or
perhaps
a
construction
sign,
that's
been
left
behind,
or
perhaps
a
sandwich
boards
that
are
on
the
street.
All
those
barriers
have
got
to
be
removed
before
accessibility.
L
There
is
very
little
point,
madam
Speaker,
to
having
even
a
program
that
people
living
with
disabilities
and
seniors
who
would
be
able
to
qualify
to
fill
out
a
form
to
have
the
frontage
of
their
property
cleared.
If
they
can't
go
beyond
the
frontage
of
their
property.
We
need
to
be
able
to
connect
the
dots
and
by
connecting
the
dots,
madam
Speaker,
it
means
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
put
an
X
accessibility,
Human
Rights
lens
over
this.
L
This
is
not
just
an
issue
around
the
budget,
and
this
is
not
just
an
issue
around
the
Italy,
the
inner
suburbs
or
the
downtown
core,
because
the
fact
remains.
Madam
Speaker
is
the
majority
of
the
people
walking
downtown
Monday
to
Friday
during
the
peak
business
hours
in
the
financial
district
and
beyond,
they
are
coming
from
well
outside
of
the
old
city
of
Toronto
boundaries.
They
are
residing
elsewhere,
they're
coming
downtown
and
those
people
from
Scarborough,
North,
York
and
Etobicoke
are
actually
traversing
our
city
streets
with
a
lot
of
difficulty.
I
Speaker
I
just
wanted
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
bring
the
item
and
I
wanted
to
do
so
as
a
councillor
who
represents
north
of
the
401
I.
Don't
think
we
can
argue
that
I'm,
a
suburban
councillor,
my
entire
ward,
is
north
of
the
401
and
well
on
any
given
day.
I
have
respect
for
my
colleague,
who
was
chair
of
the
Works
Committee
I
wish
to
disassociate
myself
from
the
comment
that
he
made,
but
having
a
conversation
about
accessibility,
somehow
will
pit
me
against
downtown
councillors.
I
I
see
that
as
one
of
my
many
citywide
responsibilities
and
if
it's
an
issue
for
my
colleagues
in
the
downtown
core,
it
is
an
issue
for
me
as
a
sworn
councillor.
Accessibility
is
a
citywide
issue.
My
residents
go
downtown,
go
on
to
a
neighborhood
street
and
babysit
their
grandchildren
for
a
day
or
the
generations
are
reversed
and
they're
going
downtown
to
visit
their
parents
for
the
day
we
live
throughout
the
city.
I
Maybe
we
need
to
be
more
mindful
at
looking
at
what
are
the
terms
of
that
call
out
for
a
consultant?
What
are
we
looking
for
in
the
results
of
that
consultancy?
What
are
we?
What
are
we
hoping
to
find?
Are
we
in
any
way
prejudicing
the
results,
or
are
we
really
looking
for
a
fair
assessment
and
are
we?
Are
we
looking
for
action-oriented
advice?
Because
if
we
got
some
here
and
we
did,
why
aren't
we
willing
to
debate
it
and
decide
whether
we
can
do
it
now?
I
Layton's
motion
moves
it
here
now
because,
as
the
report
tells
us,
if
we
don't
decide
now
to
do
something
about
it,
you
can't
do
a
damn
thing
until
later
in
2022,
when
we're
tendering
out
the
next
contract,
not
a
damn
thing,
you
won't
change
a
single
thing
and
if
you
look
at
the
graphs
we're
about
due
for
a
very
snowy
year,
it
runs
in
cycles
and
the
extreme
years
come
and
we're
just
about
due
for
another
one.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
G
You,
madam
Speaker
I'm
gonna,
be
supporting
the
motion
that
councillor
Layton's
put
forward
and
I'm
gonna
be
supporting
it
because
in
my
household
we
have
the
same
debate
each
and
every
year,
each
winter.
My
wards
in
the
southeast
corner,
scar,
roll
and
I
have
a
lot
of
friends
in
the
downtown
core.
They
come
out
and
nine
times
out
of
ten
they
get
in
the
front
door.
In
my
house
and
they'll
say
you
know
we
had
a
really
long
trip
and
I'm
like.
So
what
took
you
so
long?
It's
like
well,
you
know.
G
Once
we
got
east
of
Victoria
Park,
we
kept
stopping
and
shock
and
amazement
at
the
cleanliness
of
your
sidewalks
in
the
winter
yeah
councillor,
Kerr
gns
come
on
and
and
when
I
do
the
reverse
and
I
go
down
there.
My
children
are
much
older.
Now
I
go
through
their
areas,
trying
to
push
a
baby
carriage
when
our
children
were
much
younger
and
saw
the
difficulties
that
they
go
through
over
the
years.
I've
asked
staff.
You
know
why
can't
we
clear
the
sidewalks?
G
What's
the
problem
and
staff
have
often
said
to
me:
we
don't
have
the
right
equipment.
We
don't
know
where
we
would
put
the
snow
I've
discussed
with
councillor
Layton
a
couple
of
times,
because
I
have
friends
of
mine
that
live
in
his
ward
and
we've
looked
at
equipment
in
Montreal,
where
they
similar
style
of
sidewalks.
They
use
it
to
melt
the
ice
clear,
the
snow
and
they
asked
why
they
can't
do
it
in
Toronto,
my
friends
when
we
talked
about
it
a
pilot
project,
they
were
like
great
we're
outside
the
pilot
project
area.
G
You
all
know
that
we
have
a
concern
and
an
issue
around
sidewalks
snow
clearing.
Why
can't
you
just
do
it
and
I
think
sending
something
to
Budget
Committee
I?
Everybody
knows
how
it
works
here.
Have
you
send
something
to
Budget
Committee
with
had
some
type
of
debate
or
policy?
The
Budget
Committee
sends
it
back
to
the
committee
or
they
defer
it
because
there
hasn't
been
a
policy
put
in
place
or
debated
and
I.
G
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Speaker
Speaker
I
also
believe
that
this
is
a
conversation
that
we
need
to
have
I
believe
that
the
mayor
had
a
great
deal
of
courage
in
in
basically
requesting
or
moving
the
motion
that
generated
the
report
in
the
first
place
and
I
mean
the
part
of
the
reason
why
that
was
done
because
we're
not
doing
a
very,
very
good
job
of
clearing
our
snow
in
the
wintertime.
E
Now,
whether
you
believe
you
need
sidewalk
clearing
in
the
downtown
or
uptown
or
whatever
the
reality
is
that
currently
the
way
we're
you
know,
we
remove
snow
off
our
streets?
Isn't
working?
It's
not
working
well
nobody's,
saying
hip-hip-hooray!
That
report
you
know,
had
a
study
in
it.
That
basically
said.
Oh,
my
god,
we
did
a
survey
hip-hip-hooray
we're
doing
advanced
banky
job
of
clearing
the
snow.
Well,
I,
don't
know
who
they
were
talking
to
right
because
whoever
they
were
talking
to
you
know,
that's
not
the
case.
E
In
fact,
in
fact,
each
and
every
one
of
you
know
that
as
the
snow
season
approaches,
you're
all
in
are
kind
of
like
in
a
you
know,
crouched
position
knowing
that
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
phone
calls
that
are
gonna
come
that
are
gonna,
say
you're,
not
doing
a
really
really
good
job.
You're
gonna
say
my
Crescent
is
blocked
in
because
they
had
no
other
place
to
store
the
snow
they
stored
it.
On
my
street.
My
windows
haven't
been
cleaned
the
sidewalk.
He
can't
walk
and
they
cleared
it,
but
you
can't
walk
on
it.
E
E
87.
Some
thousand
I
understand
that
it's
simple
math
I
get
that
somebody's
gonna
stand
up
and
say
that,
but
it
should
give
you
pause
for
reflection
in
terms
of
how
we're
clearing
the
snow
off
our
streets.
Maybe
we
need
a
hybrid
system,
I
don't
know,
but
we
need
to
look
at
it
cuz
that
we're
not
getting
value
for
our
money.
E
A
P
Madam
Speaker,
it's
bit
of
a
frustrating
conversation
I'm
watching
unfold
before
me,
because
I
believe
that
we
live
in
a
city
that
isn't
equal
all
over
it
and
there's
a
bit
of
joy
in
that
there's
different
configurations,
different
streetscapes.
They
all
have
different
qualities.
I'm,
sorry
chuckling.
Listening
to
my
colleagues,
how
tough
it
is
to
get
along
a
sidewalk.
You
know
when
I
leave
my
house
in
the
winter
after
a
heavy
snowfall,
you
don't
go
through
early.
You
know
why?
P
Because
you
have
to
wait
for
the
first
car
to
go
down
the
street,
so
I
can
follow
the
wheel
ruts
to
the
bus,
stop
yeah!
You
know
what
I
don't
even
have
a
sidewalk
in
front
of
my
house
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
central
Etobicoke
that
don't
have
one
either
and
we're
okay
with
that,
because
that's
what
we're
used
to
that's
what
we
have
in
our
neighborhoods.
P
You
know
stand
here
and
talk
about
that.
You
don't
have
their
sidewalk
cleared
fast
it
you
know,
I
think
we
actually
have
pretty
darn
good
service
levels
in
the
city
when
it
comes
to
winter
maintenance
and
I.
Accept
councillor.
Perotta
I
know
that
after
a
snowfall,
all
of
us
counselors
go
through
a
lot
of
calls.
We're
a
very
complicated
operation
doesn't
unfold
perfectly
every
time,
but
for
the
most
part
and
I
think
if
you
asked
most
people
I
think
they
tell
you.
The
service
levels
are
pretty
good.
P
P
in
the
morning,
if
you're
lucky,
the
plow
goes
by
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
we're
talking
about
much
narrower
sections,
things
that
might
have
to
be
hand
dug
because
there's
posts
and
and
obstructions
and
concrete
retaining
walls,
and
if
the
councillors
that
you
think
you
got
a
lot
of
calls
now
about
difficulty
in
snow
clearing.
Wait
till
you
try
to
go
and
navigate
a
little
tiny
maze
and
you
get
calls
from
residents
saying
they
missed.
You
know
a
six-inch
strip
or
they
they
took
out
my
front
retaining
wall,
because
the
sidewalk
is
so
confined.
P
This
just
comes
down
to
a
conversation
of
money
in
one
area
wanting
to
see
more
money
spent
in
that
area,
I
don't
need
to
go
there.
I,
don't
think.
We've
got
the
budget
to
do
that.
I
think
we
should
leave
it
alone.
The
committee
did
its
work,
those
that
spoke
at
the
committee.
Congratulations,
if
you
didn't
go
to
the
committee
and
debate
this
well
I,
don't
know
why
we
want
to
bring
it
here.
Thank
You.
D
Thank
You
speaker,
we
talk
a
lot
in
this
chamber
about
the
safety
of
our
streets.
We
have
a
lot
of
conversations
about
vision.
Zero
here
is
an
example,
or
each
of
us
will
have
a
vote
and
if
you
press
green,
that
is
a
vote
that
will
look
at
the
safety
of
our
streets
for
this
year.
If
you
press
red,
you
will
be
voting
against
looking
at
the
safety
of
our
streets
for
this
year.
That's
it.
D
J
You,
madam
Speaker
cleaning
snow,
is
very
important,
doesn't
matter
if
you're
downtown
doesn't
matter
before
the
suburbs.
It
doesn't
matter
where
you
live
in
the
city
of
Toronto
and
every
citizens
should
have
the
same.
Accessibility.
I
realized
that
in
the
former
City
of
Toronto
downtown
it's
more
difficult
to
clean
the
snow
and
the
sidewalks
are
more
narrow.
The
cars
are
parked
more
tighter
and
we
need
to
look
at
equipment
that
is
probably
hybrid
equipment
that
is
able
to
get
in
there.
J
However,
in
the
same
token,
madam
Speaker,
a
couple
of
years
back,
it
was
in
April
and
we
got
a
sudden
April.
Last
snowstorm
and
I
was
outside
my
constituency
office
in
Finch
Avenue
and
the
streets
across
the
street
were
not
cleaned.
The
sidewalk
was
not
clean
when
downtown
was
certainly
been
cleaned
up.
Even
the
bicycle
lanes,
downtown
will
cleaned
up.
J
So
if
we
wouldn't
talk
about
equality,
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
a
wholesale
concept:
I'm,
not
just
downtown
or
in
Scarborough
or
in
Etobicoke,
not
where
you
just
got
sidewalks,
where
you
don't
have
sidewalks
some
of
your
streets.
Council
holiday,
do
not
want
sidewalks
because
they
got
an
extended
driveway
and
they
parked
more
cars.
So
if
we're
gonna
look
at
this
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
the
appropriate
place
to
look
at
it
or
at
the
committee,
I
would
say
to
you
that
we
got
to
look
at
it
wholesale.
J
E
Be
very
quick:
I
new
term
counselor
here:
I,
don't
I,
wasn't
aware
that
Toronto
doesn't
have
any
really
sidewalk
cleaning
and
I've
always
said
that
Scarborough
is
Toronto
and
now
I
think
Toronto
is
Toronto,
so
I
think
it's
a
very
good
debate
here
and
I
think
I've
heard
so
much
and
I
think
everybody
it
should
have
been.
You
know,
have
the
same:
equitable
same
accessibility
and
with
the
same
snow-clearing
service
that
the
whole
toronto
should
be
entitled
for.
Thank
you.
F
Clearly,
we've
heard
some
of
the
comments
that's
been
made
this
morning
and
the
perception
is
that
there
is
a
Lakes,
a
fair,
non
caring
attitude
by
some
members
of
council.
If
we
don't
bring
this
particular
matter
forward
for
discussion
year.
What
I'm
concerned
about
speaker
I
recall
having
this
conversation
with
Gary
Welsh
some
time
ago,
he
was
responsible
for
snow
clearing
in
the
city.
F
When
we
launched
the
Scarborough
program
many
years
ago,
I
wasn't
a
member
of
council,
then
it
was
through
the
billboards,
the
bus,
shelter
advertising,
where
the
revenues
came
from
to
fund
the
sidewalk
snow,
clearing
which
was
launched
in
Scarborough
many
years
ago.
I
think
Joyce
trimmer
was
the
mayor
at
that
particular
point
in
time.
The
objective
was
we
wanted
to
ensure
that
we
can
clear
the
sidewalks
to
allow
people
to
have
great
accessibility
and
so
on.
What
we
discovered
later
on
in
terms
of
looking
at
downtown,
Toronto
and
I,
think
this
was
around
in
1998-1999.
F
There
are
great
disparities
with
respect
to
how
the
sidewalks
or
roadways
were
constructors
vehicles
and
so
on
in
the
downtown
core,
and
it
made
it
rather
difficult
with
respect
to
the
types
of
equipment
that
were
being
utilized
elsewhere
because
of
the
you
know,
the
the
width
and
the
dimensions
off
the
sidewalks
and
the
roadways
speaker.
What
I've
heard
and
have
some
discussions
with
staff
this
morning
is
that
there's
a
pilot
program?
F
That's
on
the
way
to
address
this
very
issue
and
in
as
much
as
people
want
to
create
an
emotional
state
in
this
council,
which
would
say
there
are
some
of
you
who
don't
care
about
the
safety
and
responsibility
which
is
our
job
to
make
sure
everyone
is
safe.
The
challenge
that
we
have
in
as
much
as
we
spend
90
million
dollars
a
year
plus
to
clear
snow
in
this
city,
and
we
know
it's
not
perfect.
F
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
we
can
have
this
discussion
here
today
for
the
next
two
days
and
still
not
solve
the
problem.
Unless
we
put
up
real
process
in
place,
unless
we
identify
the
equipment
that
we
need
to
make
it
happen
because
I
understand
many
of
the
pieces
of
equipment
that
are
need
in
the
downtown
core
isn't
really
available,
and
if
it
is,
it's
not
sufficient
to
do
what
we
want.
So
we'll
still
have
this
disparity,
so
I
don't
want.
Anyone
to
you
know,
take
the
position
that
we
don't
care.
We
do.
F
We
need
to
ensure
that
we
do
things
properly.
Councillor
Holliday
talked
a
little
bit
about
when
you're
clearing
it
you're
gonna
make
just
great
damages
the
number
of
calls
that
we
get
beyond
simply
just
the
issue
around
snow
clearing.
It's
around
property
damage,
whether
or
not
it's
sod,
whether
or
not
it's
you
know
a
post,
that's
put
in
place,
and
so
on
so
forth
speaker,
let's
do
it
properly
and,
let's,
as
someone
always
say,
let's
base
it
on
the
evidence
that's
needed
in
order
to
do
it
correctly.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
First
of
all,
we
asked
for
a
report
that,
among
other
things,
looked
at
a
review
of
best
practices
and
technology
and
looked
at
the
question
of
clearing
sidewalks
in
Toronto,
in
East,
York,
community
council
area
and
and
and
I
wanted
to
say
that
that
the
report
and
the
conclusion
of
the
committee
was
that,
based
on
the
recommendation
from
the
very
same
consultant,
who's
referred
to
the
very
same
one
that
people
were
saying.
We
spent
all
this
money
we're
paying
no
attention.
B
What
did
that
consultant
recommend
that
consultant
consultant
recommended
and
the
staff
concurred
and
recommended
to
the
committee,
which
concurred
that
we
should
do
a
pilot
project
exactly
as
deputy
O'meara
Thompson
just
said,
and
I'll
just
read
the
words
because
I
think
it's
worthy
of
reading.
The
other
words
that
are
here
too,
and
some
of
the
other
public
campaigning
conclusions
and
I'm
not
happy
that
50.
Only
57
percent
of
people
across
the
city
said
they
were
generally
satisfied
with
the
way
in
which
we
deal
with
winter
maintenance
services
provided
by
the
city
of
Toronto.
B
But
there
was
some
survey
flashed
up
there
for
two
seconds
that
made
it
so
it
looked
like
it
was
ninety
five
five
and
that's
just
not
so
let
me
just
read
from
the
report
based
on
this
work.
It
was
found
that
the
City
of
Toronto
meets
or
exceeds
the
winter
maintenance
levels
of
service
for
roadways,
bike
lanes
and
sidewalks,
impaired
to
other
GTA
peer
cities,
Brampton
Hamilton,
Mississauga,
London
and
New
York
Region,
and
then
it
says
all
the
areas
of
comparison
and
it
included
sidewalk
clearing
practices,
and
then
it
goes
on
to
say.
B
Furthermore,
from
the
Ipsos
survey,
it
found
that
a
majority
57
percent
of
residents
are
satisfied
with
the
winter
maintenance
services
provided
by
the
City
of
Toronto
I
want
that
number
to
go
up.
We
all
do,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
notion
that
somehow
is
95
to
5
and
that
that's
what
people
think
about
this
overall
is
I.
Think
not
putting
all
the
facts
in
front
of
the
people
that
are
watching
this
debate
today
or
in
front
of
this
council.
B
Then
I
want
to
read
the
operative
paragraph,
because
the
impression
was
left
that
there
was
going
to
be
no
pilot
project,
and
we
didn't
bring
this
here
for
some
hours,
long
debate,
which
I
believe
presents
false
choices,
those
who
would
say
you're,
either
in
favor
of
safety
or
against
it.
What
a
ridiculous
articulation
of
what
we're
dealing
with
here.
That
is
what
it
is
saying
here
at
all
quote
from
the
report
based
on
the
recommendations
contained
with
the
HDR
report.
B
That's
the
consultant
staff
will
undertake
an
equipment
test
using
in-house
equipment
to
mechanically
clear
snow
from
sidewalks
in
areas
of
the
city
not
currently
serviced.
The
testing
will
prioritize
locations
that
are
currently
part
of
the
senior
sidewalk
clearing
program
where
seniors
and
persons
with
disabilities
can
apply
to
have
their
sidewalks
cleared
manually
by
the
city
at
no
cost.
During
the
stay
of
the
test,
staff
will
also
undertake
the
development
of
an
inventory
of
sidewalk
conditions
and
encroachments.
B
Furthermore,
staff
will
implement
and
improve
communications
campaign
to
better
inform
the
public
about
the
services
the
city
provides
and
service
levels
they
can
expect
during
the
winter
weather.
It
talks
about
doing
exactly
a
pilot
project
trying
to
make
sure,
as
deputy
mayor
thompson
said,
that,
if
we're
gonna
look
at
doing
this,
we're
gonna
look
at
it.
It's
based
on
evidence
as
to
whether
the
equipment
we
have
works
properly.
Do
you
need
other
equipment
if
you're
gonna
do
it,
it
is
something.
B
Is
it
something
that
you
can
do
in
whole
in
part
or
not
at
all,
based
on
the
particular
configuration
of
the
sidewalks
we're
talking
about
here,
it's
exactly
the
way
we
should
make
decisions
instead
of
bringing
things
here
and
having
a
big
debate
here,
where
you
just
sort
of
say
well,
cost
is
no
object.
The
fact
we
may
not
even
have
the
equipment
to
do
is
no
object.
B
B
That's
the
right
way
to
interpretation,
as
opposed
to
bring
it
here
and
politicizing
it
into
something
where
people
know
better
than
to
say,
even
if
we
wanted
to
that,
we
could
do
this
job,
this
winter's
short
of
going
out
and
hiring
hundreds
of
people
with
shovels
to
go
out
and
shovel
all
the
walks.
It's
just
not
something
that
we've
actually
looked
at
in
the
context
of
practicality
and
feasibility
and
I
think
to
mislead
people
into
thinking
that
that
is
something
we
could
do
is
not
a
service
to
the
public.
B
B
That's
why
we
have
a
committee
system,
so
they
can
hear
from
the
consultants
and
hear
from
the
staff
and
make
sure
that
they
do
the
right
thing
in
the
context
of
making
decisions
properly,
based
on
evidence,
so
I
support
the
the
fact
that
we
stick
with
where
we
were
going
with
this,
which
will
have
a
project,
a
pilot
project
undertaken
this
winter,
and
we
will
learn
from
that
and
take
it
from
there.
Thank
you
that
is
B.
B
Acknowledge
that
the
staff
recommended
a
pilot
project
of
the
size
that
is
recommended
here
and
that
there
was
some
discussion
of
a
larger
pilot
by
the
consultants.
Yes,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
going
to
be
a
pilot
project
undertaken,
it
is
going
to
focus
on
areas
of
the
people
in
particular,
need
that
I
think
we
all
agree
on
which
are
seniors
and
people
of
differing
abilities,
and
that
is
what
is
recommended
here.
B
C
It
I
don't
think
we
have
that
number,
which
was
one
of
the
major
problems
at
committee,
that
we
have
a
consultant
recommending
a
250,
kilometer
pilot,
and
we
don't
know
how
large
the
pilot
is.
I
agree
with
staff
in
that
focusing
on
this
particular
area
would
make
sense,
but
it
that
was
not
clear
in
the
report,
the
area
that
it
would
I'm.
B
B
L
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
mayor
for
your
comments.
That
was
very
helpful.
I
want
to
just
ask
because
the
the
item
we
received
many
items
before
the
Toronto
accessibility,
Advisory
Committee
oftentimes.
They
are
policies
and
and
program
directions
that
eliminate
barriers
for
people
with
living
with
disabilities.
Were
you
surprised
to
know
that
our
committee
never
received
this
particular
report
for
for
some
comment
or
deliberation
before
it
went
to
the
infrastructure
and
Environment
Committee
I.
B
Am
actually
I
wasn't
aware
of
that,
and
obviously,
as
part
of
the
exercise,
we're
going
to
go
through
with
the
pilot
project
and
with
the
focus
of
the
pilot
project
on
the
areas
of
the
city
that
and
and
the
people
who
presently
receive
some
snow
clearing
from
us
pursuant
to
programs
that
are
meant
to
help
seniors
and
persons
with
differing
abilities.
That
I
think
it
would
be
a
perfectly
appropriate
time,
perhaps
before
and
after
the
pilot,
to
consult
that
group
and
but
it
doesn't
change
the
fact.
B
I
would
say:
I
acknowledge
that
people
seniors
and
people
with
differing
abilities
live
across
the
city,
but
it
doesn't
change
the
fact
that
those
who
are
trying
to
create
the
impression
here
that
we
have
the
equipment
in
place
now
and
the
the
ability
to
go
and
do
this
job
across
the
city
and
every
one
of
those
places
are
creating
a
false
impression
and
trying
to
get
us
to
make
a
decision.
Without
the
evidence
in
hand
to
help
the
very
people
you're
talking
about
and.
L
Thank
you,
I'm
not
going
to
forecast
what
the
committee
members
would
have
said
or
not
said.
I
do
know
that
we
have
a
committee
meeting
coming
up
shortly.
It's
at
the
beginning
of
November.
Would
you
support
this
report,
even
though
it's
it
wasn't
necessarily
going
to
our
committee?
Would
you
support
this
report
now
going
before
the
TAC
members
to
at
least
have
a
review
in
a
staff
room
presentation
once.
B
The
parameters
of
the
pilot
project
are
set
out
clearly
and
so
on,
I'm
quite
happy
to
seek
input
at
that
time
from
that
group,
but
I
think
what's
more
important
is
going
to
be
to
seek
their
input
after
the
pilot
project
is
done
so
that
we'll
be
able
to
say
to
them.
This
is
what
the
pilot
project
told
us.
Can
we
get
your
comments
on
how
the
pilot
project
theater
did
not
work
for
you,
you
know:
did
you
think
things
were
better?
Were
they
the
same?
B
Were
they
worse
and
I
would
certainly
support
that
kind
of
an
examination
which
I
think
will
give
us
the
most
useful
input.
You
know
we
could
go
tomorrow,
madam
Speaker,
to
the
committee
and
say
to
them.
What
do
you
think
about
the
idea
of
putting
elevators
into
all
subway
stations
right
away,
and
they
would
say,
of
course,
as
I
would,
as
you
would
and
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
let's
do
that,
but
we
also
know
that
there
are
huge.
B
What's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
practical
challenges
involved
in
putting
those
elevators
into
those
subway
stations
all
at
once
tomorrow
morning
and
that's
why
we're
doing
it
on
a
phased
basis?
And
that's
why
we're
doing
a
pilot
project
here
to
be
responsible
about
how
you
go
about
making
the
decisions
I'm
quite
happy
to
see
it?
Go
there
I
think
the
best
time
for
it
to
go,
is
after
the
pilot
project
right
away
and
say:
what
did
you
think
did
it
work?
Did
it
help
and
so
on
and.
L
And
thank
you
very
much
mr.
mayor
for
those
comments.
I
think
that
for
the
committee
members,
just
just
to
remind
Council
and
for
myself
as
well
is
that
the
the
TAC
committee
provides
advice,
strategic
advice
to
the
executive
committee
and
then
the
executive
committee
was
sort
of
moved
that,
along
as
they
as
they
deem
fit
so
TAC
does
not
is
not
in
any
particular
position
to
direct
staff
or
even
to
direct
City
Council
answer.
A
L
B
I
think
that
getting
their
advice
anytime
will
be
useful
to
us,
and
so
as
I
say,
I
will
certainly
talk
to
our
staff
about
when
is
capacity,
to
put
it
in
front
of
them.
But
you
have
my
undertaking,
it
will
be
put
in
front
of
them,
because
I
think
their
advice
would
be
most
valuable.
I
happen
to
believe
the
most
valuable
advice
we'll
get
from
them
will
be
after
the
pilot
project
is
done
to
see,
but
I
think
their
advice
in
helping
us
to
run.
B
O
A
The
the
clerk
will
distribute
the
removed
items.
Members
please
note
that
the
several
of
the
audit
committee
items
have
confidential
attachments.
These
materials
were
previously
distributed
to
members
with
the
audit
committee
agenda.
I
will
now
consider
a
request
to
make
items
urgent
and
time
specific
councillor,
Thompson
I.
F
Thank
you
very
much
speaker
on
page
five,
EC
8.16
being
held
by
councilor
Pressley
and
we're
in
agreement.
This
is
the
provincial
funding
changes
and
previously
approved
childcare
capital
projects.
Update
I'd
like
to
ask
that
this
item
be
dealt
with
as
the
first
item
for
tomorrow
and
the
rationale
for
that
speaker
we're
waiting.
We
we
have
to
have
this
thing
done
by
Thursday,
as
it
relates
to
an
agreement
with
the
province
that
has
to
be
finalised,
so
it
don't
want
it
to
be
dealt
with
on
Thursday.
So.
A
F
You
very
much
speaker,
I,
speaker,
I,
have
a
petition
signed
by
about
130
residents
in
the
mondeo
area
of
my
ward,
it's
a
birch,
mound,
Ellesmere,
Kennedy,
Ellesmere
area
and
they're,
requesting
the
installation
of
speed,
bump
or
humps
in
front
of
83
mondeo
Drive.
In
order
to
ensure
the
safety
of
the
children.
There
is
a
park
on
the
west
side
just
in
front
of
83
mondeo
and
the
speeding
there
is
rather
X.
There
are
other
measures
are
being
implemented
as
well,
but
the
residents
are
requesting
speed,
bumps
or
humps
at
this
location.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
A
A
A
A
Thank
You
members
that
council
I
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
preparing
your
motions
in
advance.
The
clerk
staff
are
here
to
help
you
prepare
your
motions
in
particular.
If
you
intend
to
move
a
motion
during
the
release
of
holds,
I
will
insist
that
your
motion
be
prepared
in
advance
and
given
to
the
clerk.
If
you
do
not
even
have
your
motion
ready,
I
will
not
recognize
you
and
I
am
also
reminding
members
that
you
must
state
your
motion.
A
First
before
you
speak
to
it
remember,
city
council
follows
a
routine
for
the
processing
and
adding
of
any
motions
without
notice
during
the
meeting.
Please
remember
that
emotion
without
notice
must
include
a
reason
for
j'en
see
if
you
have
an
urgent
motion
without
notice.
You
wish
to
bring
forward
at
this
meeting.
Please
give
your
motion
to
the
city
clerk
staff.
They
will
prepare
the
necessary
procedural
motion
for
my
review.
Along
with
your
motion,
the
chair
must
agree.
The
motion
is
urgent.
A
Before
you
can
seek
leave
to
introduce
it
at
this
meeting,
it
will
require
18
votes
that
emotion
with
our
notice
to
the
agenda.
During
the
meeting,
motions
added
to
the
agenda
in
this
way
are
not
subject
to
a
vote.
To
waive
referral
to
a
committee
or
agency.
I
will
be
reviewing
all
motions
carefully
and
will
advise
counsel
at
each
recess,
which
motions
need
a
motion
to
add
to
the
agenda.
We
will
now
go
to
the
mayor's
birth
key
item:
the
X,
the
X
9.1
Toronto,
Ontario
transit,
update.
D
D
Fact
that
the
province
takes
on
risk
associated
with
those
lines
and
expansion,
that's
a
benefit,
that's
right
and
the
possibility
to
actually
get
some
relief
for
line
one.
That
is
a
benefit
correct
through
the
speaker.
That's
correct,
okay,
some
of
the
concerns
associated
with
it.
Let
me
look
at
some
of
the
different
lines.
I'll
begin
with
the
Scarborough
extension.
Perhaps
I'll
go
to
TTC
our
previous
one.
Stop
subway
expansion
plan
was
that
what
percentage
design
and
at
what
expected
opening
date.
D
J
J
D
D
D
J
Through
the
chair,
the
province
has
made
it
quite
clear
that
that
won't
be
known
until
they
actually
go
out
at
nights.
They
play
a
contractor
on
board
because
they
will
actually
be
doing
the
design
doing
the
design
it's
done
today.
As
a
representative
alignment
design,
it's
been
done
to
date.
Okay,.
S
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
certainly
there's
been
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
in
regards
to
maintenance,
whether
it
be
day-to-day
or
versus
life
cycle
maintenance.
One
of
the
things
that
we
do
have
is
a
takeaway
from
today
is
to
craft
the
operating
and
maintenance
agreements
with
the
province
with
the
TTC,
obviously
and
the
province.
Similarly,
to
what
we're
doing
right
now,
with
a
go
to
across
town,
do.
D
We
do
we,
so
it
is
to
be
determined
what
the
maintenance
model
will
be.
Is
that
correct
that
is
correct,
okay
and
then
on
fair
integration,
so
this
line
the
Ontario
line,
would
be
operated
by
the
TTC.
Is
that
correct
that's
correct?
Do
we
have
any
commitment
or
guarantee
that
the
fares
will
be
set
by
the
TTC
and
integrated
with
the
rest
of
the
system,
so.
A
L
S
So
through
you,
madam
Speaker,
we
don't
have
a
set
date.
Certainly
there
are
a
myriad
of
agreements
that
need
to
be
struck
between
ourselves
in
the
province
and
and
between
ourselves
and
the
agencies
operating
a
maintenance.
While
we
have
noted
that
the
TTC
does
have
day-to-day
operations
and
maintenance,
the
big
discussion
comes
around
life
cycle
maintenance,
the
setting
of
service
level
standards
and
how
those
arrangements
work
across
the
variety
of
different
types
of
lines
that
are
being
developed
and.
S
Through
your
madam
Speaker
I
think
we're
at
a
point
where
we
know
sufficiently
what
we
need
to
know
in
order
to
advance
building
the
projects.
This
is
as
I'll
reference
not
dissimilar
to
the
approach
taken
with
Eglinton
crosstown,
where
we
are
currently
in
the
discussions
on
operating
and
maintenance
agreements
and.
L
S
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
the
fact
is
the
sole
responsibility
projects,
and
particularly,
we
use
the
Ontario
line
where
they're
speaking
about
a
different
technology.
Those
costs
are
100%
borne
by
the
province,
that's
inclusive
of
any
maintenance
storage
facility
or
anything
else.
They
were
choir
and.
S
So
through
you,
madam
speaker
again,
you
know,
there's
a
difference
in
the
lines,
certainly
when
we're
speaking
to
and
I
all
look
to
the
TTC
to
chime
in
but
we're
extending
to
in
line
one.
The
expectation
is
that
technology
must
be
compatible
with
the
existing
systems.
The
Ontario
line
is
a
standalone,
that's
less
of
a
concern
and
the
Eglinton
West
LRT,
naturally
would
follow
with
the
Eglinton
crosstown
and.
S
S
Through
your
madam
Speaker,
I
would
suggest
as
the
projects
individually
progress
and
we
have
a
better
picture
of
what
the
capital
construction
is
depending
on
how
the
province
procures
as
well.
It
will
be
getting
to
those
types
of
numbers
that
the
province
is
taking
on
at
a
later
point,
but
I
don't
foresee
it
in
the
next
year
and.
S
L
The
procurement
of
prosze,
as
outlined
by
the
province,
does
not
deliver
success
for
the
city
of
Toronto,
because
we've
seen
where
procurements
have
actually
delivered
failure
product
not
delivered
services
expected
not
rendered
what?
How
will
we
anticipate
because
it's
an
announcements
have
been
made
and
it's
been
promised
to
them?
How
can
we
influence
that.
S
Great
question
so
through
madam
Speaker
I
think
that
really
are
accolades
counselor
the
importance
of
the
city
being
involved
from
where
we
are
now
through
the
design
phase
and
right
through
to
implementation,
our
ability
to
influence
and
and
express
the
city's
interests
and
concerns,
and
what
we
want
to
see
done.
That's
where
that's
where
we
said
staying
at
the
table
is
critical
for
that.
So.
S
3
mm
speaker:
we've
had
a
commitment
of
collaboration
in
the
design
work.
You
know
that
we've
I
would
say
over
the
last
number
of
months,
there's
been
a
considerable
amount
of
good
work
done
and
good
collaboration
done.
We
have
tremendous
expertise,
particularly
within
the
TTC
tremendous
expertise
in
planning
in
our
city
planning
group
and
others,
and
I
believe
that
the
the
expertise
that
these
individuals
have
brought
has
been
listened
to
and
will
continue
to
be,
listened
to
and.
L
For
the
communities
that
we
directly
yes,
thank
you
for
their
communities,
they'll
be
directly
impacted
by
the
by
construction.
The
relocation
of
these
lines
and
and
the
expropriation
has
required
to
to
acquire
the
real
estate.
How
will
how
will
those
communities
be
further
consulted
and
engaged
through
this
process?
Knowing
that
they've
already
gone
through
lengthy
public
consultations,
they've,
given
us
their
feedback?
How
do
we
ensure
that
we're
not
going
to
fatigue
them
with
another
conversation
about
a
new
line,
new
technology,
new
placement
of
the
observer.
A
S
You
so
through
you,
madam
Speaker
I,
would
say
that
the
topic
of
consultation
has
been
significantly
placed.
Certainly
it's
referenced
in
the
terms
of
reference
that
guided
our
table
as
well
as
the
commitment
from
the
province
going
forward.
They
will
have
that
responsibility
to
ensure
consultation
is
done
in
the
development
of
the
projects.
S
Again,
I
would
say
with
our
involvement
and
our
continuous
reinforcement
of
the
importance
of
engaging
the
community
I
think
they've
also
had
experience
with
the
Crosstown,
where
things
don't
go
so
well,
maybe
if
that's
not
done
properly
so
I
have
no
reason
to
believe
that
there
will
not
be
a
decent
and
a
comprehensive
consultation
process,
and
we
will
continue
to
advocate
for
that.
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you,
a
question
to
the
chief
planner
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
timelines
given
for
the
relief
Onterrio
line
and
when
it's
going
to
do
the
offer
relief
on
the
young
line
line,
one
especially
at
the
North
York,
Center,
Yonge
and
Eglinton
and
Yonge
and
Bloor.
Is
it
reasonable
for
us
as
a
council,
to
ask
that
the
city
manager
and
his
team
request
for
a
delay
in
implementing
bill,
108,
upzoning,
Midtown
and
Focus,
which
is
gone
up?
Zoning
until
the
relief
line
is
operational.
T
T
N
Then,
on
top
of
the
growth
pressures,
we
have
another
growth
pressure
happening
in
two
years.
As
you
know,
the
Eglinton
crosstown
is
going
to
be
unloading,
thousands
more
writers
at
Yonge
and
Eglinton
in
the
very
near
at
that
time.
So
we've
got
the
growth
pressures
that
exists.
Then
we've
got
the
up
zoning
and
the
coming
of
the
Crosstown
unloading
passengers,
the
young
negative.
T
With
the
approvals
that
Council
is
considering
in
Yonge
and
Eglinton
I
think
we
have
some
tools
to
to
to
manage
the
situation
in
the
interim,
but
certainly
council,
making
it
abundantly
clear
to
the
province
that
the
commitment
to
the
Ontario
line
up
tag
Linton
and
beyond
over
the
next
15
20
years
is
an
essential
part
of
building
out
the
network
and
supporting
the
growth
that
we're
seeing
already
at
Yonge
and
Eglinton.
Thank.
N
N
Don't
you
think,
that's
very
optimistic,
considering
they
still
haven't
revealed
the
secret
technology
they're,
going
to
use
that
it's
good
interface
with
the
already
existing
heavy
rail
lines,
onblur
the
heavy
rail
line
on
Yonge
and
the
LRT
technology.
How
do
you
think
that's
realistic
2027
for
completion
of
this
brand-new
secret
technology?
This
mammoth
new
11
billion
dollar
line
through.
J
The
speaker
is
very
difficult
for
us
to
make
that
assessment,
because,
as
part
of
the
the
conversations
we've
had
with
the
province,
we
did
ask
them
for
the
detail
chaired
you
and
how
we
actually
got
there.
The
openly
admitted
they
didn't
have
one
at
that
point
in
time.
So
it's
very
difficult
for
us
to
assess
thought
that.
F
You
very
much
speaker
and
one
to
thank
council
Cressy
for
asking
a
lot
of
Scour
questions
and
I
don't
have
to
ask
Thank
You
counsel,
Chrissie,
but
I
would
like
to
ask
the
Scarborough
question
I.
Think
of
the
TTC
in
view
of
the
fact
that,
in
the
line
of
questioning
to
council
cressie,
there's
a
three-year
addition
because
of
the
process
for
the
extension
of
the
blurred
and
for
to
scarborough,
can
you
tell
me
how
that
then
equates
with
respect
to
the
shelf-life
of
the
SRT?
F
N
You
man,
chair
right
now.
The
TTC
has
undertaken
an
operation
and
a
technical
assessment
of
the
SI
tree
to
make
a
judgment
on
its
extended
life,
we'll
be
reporting
out
to
the
board
in
late
second
quarter
of
next
year
on
that,
as
well
as
part
of
the
five-year
service.
Pan
that
we're
looking
at
we'll
do
an
assessment
of
the
possible
options
should
the
extension
of
that
life
be
limited.
Okay,.
F
S
F
Mr.
city
manager,
we've
had
many
discussions
on
this
issue
here.
There
is
the
reports
that
you'd
brought
forward,
encouraging
us
to
take
a
seat
at
the
table
to
discuss
this
issue,
to
ensure
that
we
are
at
a
an
agreement,
and/or,
an
understanding
or
better
understanding
in
terms
how
we
work
for
it.
Could
you
help
us
enlighten
us
as
to
the
process
that
you
went
through
and
and
and
your
views
and
feelings
as
to
where
we
are
today
going
forward
so.
R
There's
an
executive
that
involves
Michael,
Lindsay
who's,
a
special
manager
of
the
of
this
file
for
the
premier,
Deputy
Minister
of
Transportation
and
others,
and
we
meet
on
a
fairly
regular
basis
to
make
sure
that
the
understandings
of
each
other
is
is
discussed
and
well
understood.
So
that
table
is
is
driven
by
the
terms
of
reference
that
you
Burt.
You
approved
the
issues
that
you've
identified
and
that's
why
we
are
where
we
are
today.
So
there's.
R
We
are
an
interest-based
driven
table,
which
means
that
we
do
spend
a
fair
bit
of
time,
understanding
the
other's
perspectives
and
try
to
ensure
that
what
we
bring
forward
to
our
respective
decision-making
bodies
meets
the
needs
of
those
parties.
So
it's
worked
very
well
to
this
point
in
time.
We
certainly
have
a
lot
more
work
to
do
as
we
move
into
the
designs
and
the
execution
of
these
projects.
Okay,.
F
Thank
you.
There
were
some
questions
and
comments
that
were
made
at
the
executive
committee
regarding
the
tunneling
and
underground
I,
think
it's
Gerard
area
and
so
on,
where
the
residents
came
forward
as
part
of
the
process,
that's
being
reviewed
and
that's
being
discussed
in
terms
of
the
discussion
table
that
you're
part
of
through
the
speaker,
absolutely
alright
and
I.
Think
my
final
question
I
perhaps
to
the
TTC
or
staff
to
answer
the
Ontario
line
and
the
DRL.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
interior
line
covers
a
lot
more
ground.
Would
you
agree.
Q
F
Q
O
Thank
you
very
much
so
I'd
like
to
start
off
with
questioning
the
appropriate
staff
on
the
Connie,
the
beginning
of
the
report,
so
you
mentioned
that
we
have
state
of
good
repair
and
our
growth
need
adding
up
to
roughly
about
thirty
three
billion
dollars.
What
is
our
current?
What
is
the
state
of
good
repair,
a
number
of
that
tunnel
breakdown
to
that
total
that
the
city
currently
has
raised
a.
O
Total
number
would
be
okay
and,
under
this
kind
of
preliminary
agreement
we
have
with
the
province.
It
is
freeing
up
about
five
to
six
billion
dollars
of
the
city's
contribution
to
transit,
that
name
so
that
we
could
put
that
into
state
of
good
repair.
Is
that
a
significant
step
forward
for
the
TTC?
In
your
opinion,.
N
O
Moving
on
to
page
7
of
the
report,
understanding
the
current
peeta
funding
that
has
been
put
forward
to
the
City
of
Toronto
and
with
the
current
dynamics
with
the
federal
government
supporting
this
initiative
is
that
in
any
way
going
to
affect
how
we
approach
our
pita
funding
that
we're
receiving
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
Have
you
got
any
idea
of
how
that
will
be
affected
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
added
to
taken
away
speaker.
J
O
J
O
J
F
O
And
then,
moving
on
to
page
page,
there
was
the
planning
part
of
the
report.
I
can't
seem
to
find
it
here.
I
knew
I
had
written
down,
but
as
the
the
plans
have
changed
or
the
province
has
put
for
new
transit
plans
a
course,
it
is
affecting
a
number
of
new
neighborhoods
in
the
city
of
Toronto
and
how
our
city
planning
going
to
approach
the
planning
aspects
of
this
and
what's
gonna
change
on
our
end
on
how
we
look
at
urban
planning
in
these
new
communities
that
this
has
been
proposed
to
go
through.
T
Through
the
speaker,
the
the
plans
generally
accord
with
the
city's
official
plan,
the
Ontario
line,
as
did
the
relief
line
north
and
south
generally
accord
with
where
the
city
plans
for
growth,
the
the
extension
to
Scarborough
accords
with
the
city's
desire
to
create
a
large
center
at
Scarborough
Center,
the
the
so
in
a
general
sense
that
that
is
something
that
contributes
to
our
support.
For
these
priority
projects.
The
at
a
more
discrete
level,
a
tangible
level
on
the
ground.
T
The
city
and
the
province
have
been
discussing
entering
into
an
MOU
that
will
guide
us
and
the
various
roles
and
responsibilities
that
both
the
province
and
the
city
have
in
achieving
transit,
oriented
development
in
close
proximity
to
the
transit
stations,
so
both
at
a
macro
level
and
a
micro
level.
That's
how
we're
proceeding
with
the
the
overall
relationship
between
land
use
development
and
the
transit
projects
that.
M
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
do
this
is
a
configuration
of
what
would
be
the
all
of
the
tracks
going
from
three
to
six
and
the
Ontario
line
going
in
the
two
kilometers
through
my
ward
above
ground.
I
just
want
to
confirm
with
our
staff
that
the
existing
is
currently
three
tracks.
We
would
like
to
confirm
that.
M
The
other
two
tracks
would
be
the
Ontario
line
tracks
so
just
to
confirm
the
requirement
for
the
track
width
in
order
to
have
a
safe
running
of
the
new
trains
in
a
heavy
rail
situation
that
there
has
to
be
six
metres
between
this
is
the
city
standard
or
the
TTC
standard
for
safety
is
the
six
metres
between
the
Ontario
Line
trains
and
the
current
gold
trains.
Is
that
right
through.
J
M
J
M
M
Okay,
there
are
six
bridges
on
the
Ontario
line
that
I'm
showing
here
the
two
kilometers
there's
a
bridge
at
Eastern,
Queen,
Dundas,
Logan,
Carlo
and
Gerard,
and
there
is
also
work.
That's
contemplated
for
the
Gardiner
Expressway
I'm
gonna
ask
the
deputy
city
manager
that
take
down
the
Gardiner.
We
have
to
expand
the
bridge
at
lakeshore
over
the
Don
River
correct.
R
M
S
Through
you,
madam
Speaker,
we
are
discussing
the
the
confluence
of
a
lot
of
very
large
construction
projects
that
are
happening
along
this
corridor
and
centering
in
around
East
Harbor.
We
have
not
extended
to
have
that
conversation
with
our
city
operations.
Folks,
yet
I
don't
know
that
it's
necessarily
a
part
of
the
tea
path
process
per
se,
but
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
will
be
done,
but.
M
M
If
I'm,
to
show
you
these
bridges
that
currently
exist,
the
Girard
bridge
is
currently
18
meters.
The
new
track
would
be
36
meters
using
my
math.
That's
basically
doubling
the
size
of
that
bridge,
and
many
of
the
other
bridges
I
would
have
to
assume
there'd,
be
a
fairly
significant
impact
on
the
transit
on
Gerrard,
Street
and
any
other
any
other
bridge
for
travel.
Whether
your
car
driver
take
transit.
Oh.
M
You
and
last
is
just
a
question
to
mr.
Lynn
turn-on.
We
have
a
the
city,
the
provinces
mandated
growth
at
different
stations.
If
there's
going
to
be
a
station,
there
has
to
be
a
certain
amount
of
density.
Has
anybody
looked
at
the
impact
at
Riverdale
Plaza
of
adding
portals
to
the
future
development
opportunities
there
that
the
portals
would
go
down
in
the
middle
of
Riverdale
Plaza?
Now.
T
M
T
A
M
E
J
J
E
Q
G
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
to
the
deputy
city
manager
cook
in
the
report.
It
discusses
a
2.1
billion
dollar
amount
of
money
that
could
be
put
towards
other
transit
projects
in
scarborough
people
have
been
saying
to
me.
You
can
move
that
to
the
egglings
and
east
LRT
if
you
wanted
to,
but
currently
that
2.1
billion
dollar
is
unfunded,
correct.
G
S
G
J
G
Annually,
okay,
all
right
and
then
for
the
TTC
I'm.
Looking
at
some
clarification
around
our
service
surface
network
in
the
the
report
that's
before
us
now,
the
it
doesn't
really
address
the
role
of
the
surface
network
for
a
local
transportation
as
a
feeder
system
and
I'm
also
asking
that,
in
the
context
of
Scarborough,
where
60%
of
the
the
ridership
doesn't
get
on
the
subway
or
to
go
out
of
Scarborough,
it
depends
on
that
Boston
transit
network
in
Scarborough,
but
doesn't
clearly.
This
report
doesn't
address
any
of
that.
Q
Through
the
chair,
the
the
importance
of
excellent
transit
connections
to
the
Ontario
line
and
to
the
line
to
extension,
are
very
clear
and
have
been
very
clearly
stated
by
the
TTC
and
by
the
city.
During
our
discussions
with
Metro
links,
there
is
a
mention
in
the
report
of
that
we
clearly
have
identified
that
we
need
to
have
very
good
connections
between
buses,
streetcars
and
the
trains
on
the
entire
line
and
line
to
east
extension
and,
of
course,
having
appropriately
sized
bus
terminals
at
the
major
intersection.
Their
major
major
interchanges
is
also
very
important.
Okay,.
G
And
then
also
kind
of
ties
in
to
my
next
question.
Throughout
the
report
on
you
know,
roughly
pages
17
to
22
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
around
what
the
projected
detail
is
projected
demands
gonna
be:
is
there
gonna
be
a
detailed
report
coming
out
on
the
projected
demands
and
how
that
affects
these
four
transit
projects
that
we're
looking
at
or
the
province
is
looking
at
building
and
how
that
demands?
Gonna
rearrange
itself,
as
those
projects
come
online,
certainly.
J
J
G
G
One
hundred
sixty-five,
okay,
and
so
when
we
look
at
the
provinces
for
projects
are
going
to
be
paid
for
by
3p3
financing
for
the
most
part
and
there's
a
reference
in
the
report
about
using
the
existing
network,
farebox
revenue
to
defray
operating
costs,
but
we're
how,
as
we
bring
these
four
projects
online
and
we're
gonna
be
looking
after
them.
Our
main
operating
them
is.
Is
that
fair
box
revenue?
Is
there
an
estimated
gap
of
what
the
fare
box
revenue
is
gonna,
be
versus
the
operating
costs
for
lines
so.
J
J
R
J
Detailed
through
you
again,
madam
Speaker,
the
detailed
design
is
developed
in
the
early
stages
of
the
of
the
procurement
of
the
project
company's
contract,
and
then
it
continues
on
throughout
the
further
design
development
until
it's
actually
ready
to
be
issued
through
sorry
for
construction
documents
be
actually
developed.
So.
K
K
J
K
K
K
J
K
J
K
So
we
don't
have
that
information
today
to
the
same
event,
to
the
same
extent
that
we
would,
if
we
had
say,
30%
design.
But
when
it
comes
forward
from
the
market.
We
can
anticipate
as
a
City
of
Toronto,
to
have
more
detailed
information,
of
course,
on
the
design
and
in
a
better
sense
of
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be.
The.
J
K
I'd
like
to
thanks
very
much
I'd
like
to
shift
just
over
to
our
chief
planner
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
transit,
oriented
development,
something
discussed
extensively
here.
Could
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
the
MoU
between
the
city
and
the
province
to
work
together
on
transit,
oriented
development
through.
T
The
speaker
just
generally,
we
need
to
understand
specifically
how
transit
oriented
development
could
play
out
in
association
with
the
various
transit
stations
it
could
play
out
as
participation
by
a
private
developer
in
the
actual
development
of
a
station.
It
could
be
that
it
occurs
right
next
door.
In
these
various
scenarios,
we
want
to
understand
the
the
role
of
the
private
developer,
the
role
of
Metrolinx
and
the
role
of
a
city.
K
T
J
J
Exhibition:
yeah:
okay,
now
there's
lots
of
things
happening,
Metrolinx
that
that
platform
right
now
at
exhibition
and
I,
don't
calculate
no
agree
with
me.
It's
kind
of
outright
dangerous
right
now
when
there's
events
going
on
at
Exhibition
Place
and
the
Seanie
going
on
and
I
think
there's
design
happening
already
with
Metrolinx.
With
regard
to
that
station,
there's
Dufferin
the
30%
design
going
up
for
the
waterfront
LRT.
J
We
kind
of
see
this
probably
is
gonna,
be
a
mini
transit
hub
at
that
station
with
Liberty
Village.
Do
we
not
through
the
speaker?
Yes
with
with
several
lines
coming
in
there,
it
becomes
a
much
more
significant
help.
So
what
does
that
mean
to
the
where
we
are
the
30
percent
design,
Dufferin
and
and
Metrolink
the
work
they're
doing
on
that
platform?
Now
so.
Q
Let's
go
through
the
chair,
the
work,
the
TTC
is
doing
to
advance
that
design
is
continuing
because
we
don't
know
the
actual
effects
the
interior
line
would
have
on
it.
So
we
are
going
to
wrap
up
that
work
early
in
the
new
year
and
then
revise
it
if
necessary.
Based
on
the
information
we
learn
about
the
interior
line.
Okay,.
J
The
five
billion
dollars
that's
been
kind
of
thrown
out
there
that
will
be
freed
up
for
us
state
of
good
repair
was
mentioned,
and
then
the
waterfront
LRT
was
mentioned
that
money
could
go
towards.
Where
did
that?
Come
from
where
the
word
that
discussion
come,
that
it
would
be
your
mark
for
I,
know
state
of
good
repair,
but
where
were
the
water?
Fidelity
come
from.
S
So
three,
madam
Speaker
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
specific
reference
to
the
waterfront
LRT
in
the
context
of
the
agreement
with
the
province,
though
both
waterfront
transit
and
the
Eglinton
East
LRT
are
identified,
as
previously
stated
council
priorities.
So
in
the
agreement
we
will
have
a
conversation
about
those
subject
to
a
report
from
the
city
manager
in
2020.
When
council
sets
out,
it
sets
out
its
priorities
for
the
redirection
of
those
funds.
Bearing
in
mind
the
need
to
address
the
state
of
good
repair
concerns
that
we
have
expansion,
great.
J
Thanks
and
I
guess
my
last
question
to
my
good
friend,
Joel
frag
over
there
I
heard
him
say
the
cost.
The
operating
the
four
lines
is
me.
My
last
opportunity
I
asked
you
a
question,
but
quote-unquote
we
will
be
assessing
the
cost
of
the
operating
the
four
lines.
And
next
couple
years
have
you
said
yes,
so
I
mean
you're
sticking
around
I'm,
afraid.
I
Thanks,
madam
Speaker
and
and
I'll
say
it
into
the
microphone.
Please
stay
mr.
Perret,
so
so
we've
talked
a
lot
about
state
of
good
repair
this
morning,
but
I
don't
know
that
we're
all
universally
on
the
same
page
as
to
what
that
is,
what
is
state
of
good
repair
with
respect
to
the
TTC
budget,
we're
talking
about
track
replacement.
Are
we
talking
about
vehicle,
buys
that
big
33
billion
dollar,
of
which
we
we
still
have
24
billion
I,
believe
roughly
below
the
line?
What
is
that
that's.
N
I
A
lot
of
it
is
vehicle,
buys
all
of
that
is
in
our
basic
state
of
good
repair
program.
Right
now
we
know
we're
gonna.
We
know
that
within
that
life
cycle
we
love
our
new
streetcars,
but
but
by
the
end
of
that
period
of
time,
we're
gonna
have
to
be
at
least
looking
at.
What
is
the
next
streetcar?
Are
we
not
by
then
we'll
be
at
15
years?
From
now,
the
the
first
ones
delivered
will
be
20
to
25
years
old.
I
We
used
to
previously
we
used
to
have
vehicle
purchase
programs
sometimes
from
the
province,
sometimes
from
the
federal
government,
but
they
were
very
specific.
They
were,
we
know
you
need
to
replace
vehicles
and
that's
a
big
one,
if
you're
just
trying
to
keep
the
basic
system
going
so
we'll
have
a
program
for
that.
S
N
Through
you,
madam
chair,
and
the
letter
that
I
provided
the
city
manager
that
was
transmitted
to
the
the
province,
and
it
does
identify
the
items
that
I
previously
mentioned,
which
includes
vehicles
lying
to
replacement,
for
instance,
those
vehicles
will
be
30
years
old
in
2026.
The
signal
system
would
be
55
it's
55
years
old
today.
So
all
that
is
identified
in
the
CIP
that
was
passed
along
to
the
province.
So
was.
I
R
Speaker,
the
yes,
the
state
of
good
repair
is
certainly
where
they
want
to
folk
where
they
want
us
to
focus
our
the
dollars
that
have
been
freed
up
from
expansion,
but
also
important
to
say
that
they
will
be
partners
in
a
conversation
with
the
federal
government
in
terms
of
what
role
they
might
play
in
assisting
with
state
of
good
repair.
So.
I
I
I
We
are
subsidizing
per
ride
right,
so
so
we're
gonna
be
using
the
fare
box
to
offsets
they
say,
but
the
minute
you
know
the
Crosstown
will
open
and
then
these
new
lines
will
open
and
for
each
fare
we
take
in
to
run
that
rail
we
will
take
on
a
cost.
We
will
also
have
a
bigger
bill
here
in
our
operating
budget.
Have
we
not
it's
perfect
that
you
have
come
to
the
table?
Miss
la
vida?
I
I
Do
we
have
a
timeline
for
when
we're
gonna
talk
about
it,
and
could
we
stick
to
it
this
time
because
from
mr.
McGinty
from
miss
Wynn
to
mr.
Ford,
we
keep
saying
we
will
kick
the
operating
can
down
the
road.
Do
we
have
terms
in
this
deal
that
set
a
timeline
for
having
the
operating
conversation
because
the
fare
box
ain't
gonna
offset
the
dollar
a
ride?
At
least
your.
S
Through
you,
madam
speaker,
certainly
in
the
terms
that
are
being
discussed
today
in
this
agreement,
it
makes
a
specific
reference
to
the
province,
the
city
and
approaching
the
federal
government
and
looking
at
tripartite
funding
for
much
needed
investments,
and
that
does
include
upgrades
state
of
good
repair.
Thank
You.
H
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
speak
to
through
you
to
staff
when
it
comes
to
traffic
management
during
the
construction
period.
Will
requests
for
changes
in
current
traffic
directional
flow
come
to
committee
and
council,
or
will
the
province
change
legislation
and
make
those
changes
unilaterally
through.
J
H
R
So
if
I
can,
through
the
speaker,
those
are
the
those
kinds
of
matters
are
going
to
be
discussed
with
the
problems
right
now
in
terms
of
their
ability
to
speed
up
construction
of
these
projects.
So
that
is
clearly
legislation
that
they're
governed
by
it's
their
legislation,
how
they
choose
to
address.
It
is
something
that
I'm
sure
we'll
be
talking
about.
H
R
H
I
asked
this
question
in
committee,
but
I
think
it's
it's
worthy
of
asking
against
civic
improvements
when
we've
done
some
Metrolinx
projects
in
the
past,
we
were
shocked
after
these
fully
funded
projects
sent
us
a
bill
for
ninety
million
dollars
for
civic
improvements.
Are
we
protected
in
the
framework
going
forward
that
we
we
won't
be
on
the
hook
for
civic
improvements
or
they'll,
be
mutually
negotiated?.
J
H
H
H
R
Through
the
speaker
to
your
first
question,
I
have
no
details
to
share
with
you
right
now
in
terms
of
all
the
efforts
that
they're
going
to
undertake
to
speed
up
the
construction,
these
projects
and
specifically
in
terms
of
environmental
assessment.
In
terms
of
your
second
question,
if
you
could
just
repeat
it
quickly,
well,.
H
Whether
we
can
whether
we
can
use
the
same
approach
of
expediting
and
keeping
the
costs
down
and
environmental
assessments
to
move
it
on
just
under
other
areas
of
what
we
do
here,
including
stormwater
management,
basement
flooding,
construction
projects
that
require
environmental
assessments.
And
we
wait
and
we
wait
yeah
and
we
wait.
Yeah.
R
J
N
J
J
Do
you
know
how
far
along
the
planning
was
for
the
relief
line
north
through
the
speaker,
planning
work
on
relief
line?
North
was
still
in
very
early
stages.
Looking
at
a
number
of
different
optional
corridors,
yeah
my
I
saw.
Is
it
true
that
yeah
you
actually
hadn't
even
decided
on
what
the
proper
path
was?
I
saw
four
or
five
different
options
for
what
the
relief
line
would
look
like
through
the
speaker.
We.
J
F
J
F
P
P
R
P
P
R
P
You
know
the
other
nifty
things
they
said
presto.
It
comes
out
of
my
account
into
somebody
else's,
but
I
pay,
my
transit
fare.
We
we
have
extended
our
Spadina
subway
into
York
and
and
what's
being
discussed,
is
another
extension.
So
it's
not
that
radical
we've
done
it
before
am
I
paying
for
the
operating
subsidy
of
serving
the
nice
people
that
live
up
in
Vaughan
in
New,
York,
Region,
I.
P
R
Correct
I
mean,
through
the
speaker,
you're,
absolutely
correct,
though.
The
province,
though,
will
be
expecting
to
sit
down
with
those
municipalities
and
look
at
the
full
range
of
costs
that
they
should
be
expected
to
bear,
whether
it
be
related
to
the
building
or
the
operation
maintenance
of
it
and.
P
That's
in
the
new
the
new
proposal
before
us,
though
so
that
sets
the
young
line
extension
apart
from
the
Spadina
line
is
it
sounds
like
we've
got
a
chance
now
to
negotiate
some
money
from
the
municipalities
that
we
will
serve,
perhaps
even
Mississauga
or
peel
region,
because
there's
to
be
an
extension
out
that
way
as
well.
Yes,.
R
P
Is
really
important
intergovernmental
work
that
you're
doing
the
team
is
doing
Yeah
right,
and
this
is
we're
talking
about
technology
in
subway
lines
and
maps
here.
But
there's
also
this
notion
about
policy
between
the
two
governments
about
who
pays
for
what
I
guess.
The
point
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
fully
understand
and
leave
with
is
you
know,
we've
got
a
good
pattern
set
with
the
egg
across
town.
The
province
is
building
that
province
is
building
the
Ontario
line.
P
There
isn't
an
operating
subsidy,
but
we've
agreed
that
there's
an
interest
in
transit
and
that
we're
gonna
make
it
work.
You
know,
as
a
councillor
should
I
I've
seen
I'm
happy
with
what
I'm
seeing
with
the
Eglinton
crosstown
should
I
expect
the
same
with
the
Ontario
line,
because
if
because
the
patterns
there
and
you've
got
something
to
go
on,
you've
got
a
relationship
with
the
government
already
and
can
we
expect
those
sorts
of
things
to
continue
with
this
through.
R
P
And
so
maybe
what
you're
saying
is
is
we'll
do
even
better
with
the
Ontario
line
because
of
our
experience,
and
maybe
the
province
has
had
the
same
experience
as
well:
I'm,
not
talking
about
the
political
side,
but
the
people
that
work
with
the
city
to
deliver
these
projects
that
there's
already
pattern
out.
There
there's
experience
out
there
and
although
it's
got
a
different
label
and
maybe
a
different
technology,
the
project
idea
is
the
same.
It's
a
big
civil
work
is.
R
P
E
E
That
would
be
probably
about
two
or
three
years
delay.
Yes,
that's
correct.
Has
there
been
any
discussion
at
the
table
that
they
are
going
to
open
the
this
up
in
in
phases
when
the
first
stop
is
finished
that
the
other
word
you
know
when
the
first
stop
is
finished,
then
they
can
open
it
and
then
they
can
open.
The
next
talk.
The
next
two
through.
J
J
E
J
Will
look
at
what
was
actually
done
over
that
period
of
time
when
the
one
stop
and
they
may
or
may
not
incorporate
some
of
that
design
into
their
design?
We've
still
got
to
see.
There
are
nuts
the
discussions
that
were
going
to
have
with
the
province
and
how
we
actually
accelerate
the
design
tin.
Should
we
actually
bring
the
delivery
date
forward?
Okay,.
C
C
Q
C
Q
The
chair
are
the
ridership
projections
done
by
the
city
and
by
Metro
links
show
that
line
1
would
be
at
its
maximum
capacity
of
about
36,000
people
by
2040
1.
If
we
do
nothing,
if
we
that
ridership
increase
comes
from
existing
development,
that's
happening
on
Yonge
Street
happens.
It
comes
from
the
line,
one
extension
and
also
comes
from
other
other
developments
along
there.
So
in
almost
any
case
we
would
be
full
on
line
one
in
2041,
but.
Q
Q
Of
the
pattern
of
ridership
on
line
one
shifts
and
changes,
particularly
with
the
line,
one
extension,
the
peak
point
on
line
one
shifts
from
where
it
is
today,
south
of
Blair
young
station
to
north
of
Lee
Remick
station,
and
so,
as
a
result,
the
relief
line
or
the
intera
line.
While
it
helps
south
the
Blair
young
station
does
not
solve
the
peak
point
problem
in
the.