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Description
Economic and Community Development Committee , meeting 19, January 5, 2021
Agenda and background materials:
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B
Today's
meeting
is
being
held
by
video
conference
city
staff
are
also
connected
to
the
meeting
by
video
conference.
As
city
hall
remains
close,
the
public
will
continue
to
participate
electronically
and
can
watch
the
meeting
streaming
live
on
youtube
at
youtube.com,
backslash
toronto
city.
Council
live.
B
I
ask
everyone
for
their
patience
with
any
delays
and
technical
issues.
Today's
meeting
members,
we
are
even
operating
a
little
bit
differently
than
we
had
in
the
past.
Normally
I
would
be
in
a
room
with
the
clerks
and
the
technical
staff.
That's
not
the
case.
Today.
We
are
all
operating
in
a
fully
virtual
and
a
remote
process.
B
B
The
list
of
speakers
can
be
viewed
online
by
visiting
the
economic
and
community
development
committee
committee's
page
at
toronto,
dot,
ca,
backslash,
council
and
clicking
the
speaker
box
for
today's
meeting
members.
This
is
a
paperless
meeting.
The
clerk
has
provided
all
agenda
material
via
cmp
a
clerk's
meeting
portal.
B
B
This
will
make
it
easier
for
me
as
chair
and
for
those
watching
on
youtube
to
observe
members
as
they
participate
in
the
debate
or
vote
on
items
members.
Please
keep
your
mics
muted
unless
you
wish
to
question
staff
or
speak
on
an
item
and
ensure
that
your
video
is
turned
on
as
part
of
each
agenda
item.
I
will
ask
members
to
raise
their
hands
or
unmute
their
mic
if
they
wish
to
question
or
staff
or
speak.
I
will
then
create
a
speaker's
list
and
will
call
in
members
when
it
is
their
turn
to
speak.
B
B
If
there
is
any
visiting
member
of
council
attending
today's
meeting,
I
would
like
to
encourage
you
to
turn
on
your
video
so
that
I
know
that
you
are
present
and
can
give
you
the
opportunity
to
question:
ask
questions
of
staff
or
to
speak.
This
will
also
assist
the
clerk
staff
to
recording
the
attendance
for
this
meeting.
I
know
that
counselor
ainslie
is
visiting
with
us
this
morning
and
answeringsley
good
to
see
you
and
thank
you
for
visiting
this
committee.
B
Although
we
are
in
different
locations
today,
the
committee
would
like
to
acknowledge
that
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
mississauga
of
the
credits,
the
industry,
their
shot,
the
nswabi,
the
chippewa,
the
huda
shawnee
and
the
winded
people,
and
is
now
home
to
many
first
nations
inuit
metis
people.
We
also
acknowledge
that
toronto
is
covered
by
treaty
13
with
the
mississauga
of
the
credit
members.
Are
there
any
declaration
of
interest
on
the
municipal
conflict
of
electric
interest
act?
B
B
The
recommendations
that
came
as
part
of
the
building
back
stronger
report
focus
on
four
specific
areas.
One
is
on
economic
recovery,
anti-racism
and
inclusion,
workforce
and
talent
and
arts
and
culture.
Now
I
won't
get
too
much
into
the
specific
of
that
because,
as
says,
we
know
we
did
that
last
month,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
highlight
the
fact
that
these
are
going
to
be
some
of
our
focus
and
our
focus
will
be
to
help
business
and
the
cultural
sector
reopen
in
a
safe
manner.
B
B
We
know
that
businesses
have
had
a
real
tough
time
of
it
for
the
most
part,
particularly
the
small,
mob
paws
and
small
medium-sized
enterprises,
and
so
on,
have
had
a
tough
go
and
we
are
all
working
hard
to
ensure
that
you
know
that
change
that
we
anticipate
and
expect
in
2021
will
come
sooner
as
opposed
to
later.
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
working
with
our
edc
staff.
B
We
are
going
to
see
a
new
general
manager
in
place
sometime
very
shortly.
That
work
has
started
some
time
ago,
we're
hoping
that
that
will
be
concluded
in
terms
of
naming
a
person
at
some
point
in
the
coming
months.
In
the
interim,
we
actually
have
an
acting
general
manager
and
that
acting
general
manager,
mr
pat
tobin,
patrick
tobin,
is
with
us.
B
B
Blackman
will
also
be
in
this
role
as
we
move
forward
and
neither
is
the
same
members,
I'm
so
very
proud
that
we
have
the
real
ben
strength
in
order
to
help
us
to
continue
with
respect
to
our
economic
development,
and
you
know
a
community
development
team
to
move
forward
with
respect
to
the
leadership
for
this
committee.
So
madame
dcm,
I'd
like
to
just
turn
it
over
to
you
for
a
few
minutes.
B
C
So
good
morning
everyone
and
happy
2021,
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you.
We
have
started
the
recruitment
process
to
for
the
gm
of
economic
development
and
culture
and
that'll
take
some
time,
but
hopefully,
by
the
spring,
we'll
have
someone
appointed,
but
in
the
meantime
we
have
a
strong
team.
C
Patwa
and
cheryl
are
going
to
be
leading
the
team
to
start
with,
and
then
cheryl
and
our
focus
for
2021
is
really
going
to
be,
as
the
deputy
mayor
has
pointed
out,
supporting
businesses
and
cultural
organizations
on
reopening
safely
and
helping
move
forward
on
the
recovery
process.
You
know
because
we
understand
that
you
know
culvert
has
impacted
some
of
our
more
more
vulnerable
communities.
C
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
that
we
work
right
across
in
every
war
to
ensure
that,
as
we
recover
opportunities
to
move
forward
and
to
stabilize
families
is
equally
supported
right
across
every
ward,
in
this
community,
in
every
neighborhood
and
economic
and
community,
sorry,
economic
and
development
and
culture.
Their
whole
strategic
plan
is
very
much
focused
on
promoting
equity
inclusion
and
really
celebrating
the
diversity
of
all
of
our
neighborhoods,
our
families
and
our
communities
right
across
the
city.
So
that
is
going
to
be
our
focus.
C
So
it
is
really
is
going
to
be
us
working
together
very
much
in
partnership
with
a
strong
front
to
support
all
of
our
neighborhoods
and
communities.
As
we
come
out
of
covet-
and
we
continue
to
develop
this
city
and
our
cultural
organization,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
be
a
great
city
that
everybody
can
fully
participate
in.
D
D
So
as
julianna
and
I
have
mentioned
I'll
act
through
mid-uh
february,
followed
by
sheryl
blackman.
While
the
city
undertakes
the
search
we'll
work
closely
with
juliana
over
that
period,
on
the
priorities
she's
just
outlined,
and
noting
that
inner
divisional
cooperation
and
she
highlighted
their
workforce
development
as
one
area
will
be
absolutely
critical.
We're
using
this
period
of
lockdown
to
again
refresh
the
information
that
we
have
about
the
hardest
hit
sectors
under
the
edc
mandate
and
no
surprises
there.
D
This
would
include
small
business,
retail,
our
main
streets,
restaurants
and
arts
and
cultural
venues,
so
we're
ensuring
to
work
with
partners
to
pull
together.
The
best
analysis
that
we
have
of
those
needs
work
closely
with
tph
and
get
ready
to
serve
those
sectors
in
the
area
of
ensuring
that
we're
supporting
clear
public
health
direction.
We're
enabling
people
to
get
ready
for
safe
reopening.
D
We
enable
the
public
to
understand
how
they
operate
on
the
safe
reopening
and
that
within
that,
we're
also
preparing
to
reopen
some
of
our
own
services,
like
museums
that
have
been
shuttered,
as
well
as
putting
a
real
focus
given
the
city's
financial
position
on
intergovernmental
work,
so
that
we
can
access
resources
from
other
orders
of
government
to
be
able
to
deliver
on
these
priorities.
Final
thing,
I'd
note:
the
deputy
mayor
mentioned
that
we
have
seen
some
attrition
mike,
certainly
big
shoes
to
fill
senile.
D
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
acting
gm
and
you
have
been
doing
an
amazing
job.
I
know
that
because
you
know
I've
been
talking
as
well
as
we've
seen
your
actions
so
again
we're
delighted
that
you're
in
in
this
area
of
responsibility,
so
members
you
we
have
for
us.
So
let's
now
proceed
with
a
review
of
the
agenda
we
have
on
my
list
here
we
have
five
items
plus
two
items
of
new
business.
B
Just
before
I
proceed,
though,
I
just
wanted
to
ensure
that
counselor
law
you're
okay,
with
respect
to
your
mute
button,
if
you're
having
some
challenges,
I
wonder
if
staff
could
just
reach
out
to
councillor
lai,
make
sure
that
she's
able
to
communicate
as
she
wishes
he's
having
some
challenges.
So
you
can
just
give
me
a
thumbs
up.
Counselor
live
you're
still
having
some
challenges,
so
staff
will
reach
out.
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
B
B
B
B
I
see
all
members,
I
see
no
further
nominations
for
the
position
of
vice
chair
of
economic
and
community
development,
so
I
will
then
close
the
nomination
process
and
to
congratulate
counselor
mark
grimes
on
your
selection
as
the
vice
chair
of
the
economic
and
community
development
committee.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
appreciate
you.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank
you
all
right.
Some
members
moving
right
along
the
next
item
is
ec
19.2
business
improvement
area.
Bih
2021
operating
budgets
report
number
two.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
chrissy,
all
those
in
favor
suppose
that's
carried
and
remembers.
I
I
realize
I've
just
done
something
that
said,
and
then
we
didn't
move
to
confirm
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting
from
december
7th
next
grimes.
Would
you
move
the
item
so,
okay?
Thank
you.
Moving
for
confirmation
for
the
minutes
of
the
december
7th
meeting,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
B
Thank
you
very
much
all
right,
so
we
have
dispensed
off
those
three
items
and
council
cressie
has
moved
the
report
and
again
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Thank
you,
okay,
moving
right
ahead.
The
next
item
is
ec.
19.3
changes
to
the
duke
heights
business
improvement
area
board
of
management.
There
is
a
staff
recommendations.
B
B
B
B
B
The
next
item
is
ec
19.5,
theater
review
for
inclusivity
and
equity.
We
have
a
speaker.
This
is
an
item.
That's
been
directed
to
the
committee
from
councillor
ainsley
and
he
is
here
with
us,
but
we
also
have
a
speaker
on
this
item,
so
we
will
hold
this
item
down
in
the
chair's
name.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
those
are
the
items
that
were
listed
members
as
the
I
agenda
had
been
prepared.
B
There
are
two
additional
items
of
new
business.
I'd
like
to
move
to
add
these
two
items
to
the
agenda.
The
the
first
of
the
two
items
is
the
it's
a
letter
from
counselor
cressie.
It's
a
modification
modification
for
toronto,
entertainment,
district,
business,
improvement
area,
boundary
expansion,
so
I'll.
Maybe
we
could
show
the
item
the
motion
on
the
screen.
F
Absolutely
mr
chair,
this
is
the
entertainment
district.
Bia
is
in
the
process
of
working
to
expand
its
boundaries.
The
request
here,
as
has
been
done
in
the
past,
is
to
waive
the
requirement
for
a
formal
meeting
in
light
of
the
the
covet
circumstances
and
rather
to
proceed
directly
to
the
polling,
and
so
at
the
request
of
the
entertainment
district
bia
in
my
office.
I
hope
that's
something
that
committee
members
will
consider.
I
think
it
would
help
to
support
them.
A
great
deal.
B
B
Councilor
carol
you're,
your
intervention
is
very
well
timed
and
fully
accepted.
So
I
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I
had
just
thought:
I'd
hold
it
down
for
people
to
read,
but
I
think
you,
council,
cressie,
has
done
a
good
summary
and
that's
perfect,
so
counselor
carol.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
contribution.
So
all
those
in
favor
of
this
item
oppose
that's
carried.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
moving
right
along
there's
an
item
of
you
business
from
myself.
It's
regarding
the
firefighters
future
of
staffing
requirements.
B
It
was
a
five
alarm,
one
that
occurred
on
december
26
at
200
wellesley
street.
There
was
a
two
alarm
and
another
that
occurred
on
december
27th
at
1875
dundas
street
west,
which
is
a
five
alarm
and
another
one
that
I
have
on
my
list,
which
was
the
december
30th
at
oakwood.
In
the
oakwood
neighborhood
at
106,
culverley
culver
valley.
It
was
a
two-alarm
fire.
B
Regrettably,
on
a
number
of
these
fires,
a
number
of
our
residents
have
succumbed
to
the
the
the
fire
incidents
and
so
on,
which
is
project
in
that
sense.
And
so
we
want
to
ensure
that
the
staffing
level
is
is
adequate
in
terms
of
responding
to
the
number
of
increase
in
fires
and
so
on.
And
I
know
that
there
is
the
broader
review
and
I
think,
council
carol,
you
were
responsible,
putting
forward
a
motion.
B
You
know,
deputy
jessup
and
others
in
the
service
and
so
on
are
working
with
the
the
fire,
the
toronto
professional
fire
fighters,
association
and
others,
and
so
on.
To
ensure
that
any
gaps
or
any
deficiencies
in
in
the
number
of
or
the
level
of
of
staffing
is
being
addressed,
along
with
the
city
managers
and
the
staff
report
and
so
on.
So
this
is
the
the
this
is
what
my
intention
is
as
part
of
the
recommendation.
So
I'd
like
to
add
this
to
the
agenda.
B
So
all
those
who
are
in
favor
of
adding
this
item
to
the
agenda,
a
post,
that's
carried,
thank
you
and
I
don't
know
if
members
want
to
have
the
opportunity
to
review
the
recommendation
as
fun
and,
as
was
suggested
earlier
by
councillor
carroll,
that
we
were
able
to
dispense
off
the
item.
If
you
so
wish,
we
could
call
the
vote
over
that.
B
B
B
I
wondered
if
you
could
call
the
first
speaker
and
just
before
you
make
the
call
to
the
first
speaker,
I'd
like
to
inform
the
speaker
that
he
or
she
has
five
minutes
to
be
able
to
speak
on
this
particular
item
at
the
conclusion
of
the
five
minutes,
and
I
will
hold
you
to
five
minutes
at
the
conclusion
of
the
five
minutes.
There
may
be
opportunities
for
you
to
respond
to
questions
if
there
are
any
from
members
or
the
visiting
members
of
the
committee.
B
B
B
H
I
I
Approximately
30
venues
got
together
for
a
weekly
meeting
or
a
bi-weekly
meeting
to
you
know,
share
that
share
the
strength
and
times
with
one
another
and
try
and
solve
problems.
It
came
to
light
very
early
on
that
insurance
policies
were
not
being
renewed
if
they
were
being
renewed.
There
was
drastic
hikes
anywhere
from
three
to
five
to
a
thousand
percent
increases.
I
We
also
by
by
talking
with
one
another,
realize
that
the
last
10
years,
the
the
issue,
has
come
to
light
that
it's
the
three
to
four
hundred
percent
increase
with
insurance
premiums,
mostly
related
to
liability.
We've
ran
down
many
avenues.
Trying
to
solve
this
problem
with
the
provincial
government.
With
the
insurance
industry
itself,
we
we
did
get
a
little
leeway
leg
room
with
finance
minister
phillips,
that
was
to
be
followed
up
in
january.
I
Obviously,
that's
not
going
to
happen
right
at
this
time
and
we
we
are
looking
to
the
who
is
filling
his
position
to
speak
on
behalf
of
insurance
provincially.
So
the
the
point
being
a
lot
of
venues
are
without
insurance.
Right
now
are
without
renewal.
There
has
been
some
a
little
bit
of
movement
on
b2b
solution,
but
that
seems
to
be
lip
service,
so
we
we
don't
come
lightly
to
the
city,
to
ask
for
assistance.
I
This
has
been
a
good
eight,
nine
months
of
banging
on
any
door
and
anyone
who'll
listen
to
us.
So
looking
for
options.
Looking
for
thoughts,
looking
for
advocacy
on
our
behalf
with
the
provincial
government
as
it
is,
a
provincially
legislated
issue
insurance.
That
is
the
general
outline.
I
know.
Tracy's
gonna
speak
to
some
specifics
after
me,
but
if
there's
any
questions
or
comments,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
them.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
bowring.
Let
me
check
to
see
if
there
are
any
questions
of
you
see,
check
visiting
members
of
committee
first,
seeing
none
checking
to
see
members
of
committee
seeing
them
there
are
no
questions
further
of
you,
sir.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
Madam
clark.
The
next
speaker
please.
H
J
Thanks
so
much
yeah,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today,
and
I
want
to
thank
also
the
the
music
office
and
the
staff
for
their
work
on
this
issue
to
date
and
and
just
for
for
bringing
this
forward,
despite
it
not
being
an
area
covered
by
the
by
the
city.
I'll,
be
brief,
as
sean's
done
a
great
job
of
outlining
the
the
challenges
that
are
presented
to
the
venues
in
toronto.
J
I
I'm
speaking
it
from
the
perspective
of
a
venue
operator.
I
manage
a
medium-sized
venue
lula
lounge
in
the
west
end,
I'm
also
a
board
member
of
rbia,
the
little
portugal
on
dundas
bia
and
a
member
a
board
member
of
the
canadian
live
music
association
which
has
been
looking
at
this
issue
on
a
national
level
as
sean
mentioned.
Even
before
the
pandemic
started,
we
were
really
challenged
to
find
affordable
and
effective
insurance
at
lula.
J
The
only
explanation
was
that
was
given
was
just
that
they
were
moving
out
of
the
entertainment
sector.
We
we
were
forced
to
spend
two
or
three
months
without
any
coverage,
but
it
wasn't
just
that
we
didn't
have
liability
coverage
because
we
also
owned
the
venue.
It
meant
that
we
had
no
property
insurance,
which
was
in
violation
of
our
mortgage
agreement,
so
it
put
us
in
a
very
precarious
situation.
J
They
said
that
we
would,
if,
if
allowed
by
regulation,
to
open
up
again,
we
would
limit
our
live
music
presentations
to
once
a
week.
We
would
only
have
trios,
there
would
be
no
singers.
There
would
be
no
brass
if
you
know
lula
lounge.
You
know
that
we
are
our
bread
and
butter
is
presenting
12-piece
salsa
bands,
so
this
wouldn't
be
a
very
good
salsa
band
with
no
singers
or
horns,
and
the
capacity
was
also
severely
limited.
J
So
we
did
bind
that
policy
because
we
needed
something
to
protect
the
building,
but
it's
really
not.
It's
really
not
insurance
for
our
business.
So
we
are
very
happy
to
hear
that
you
know
we're
looking
at
some
creative
solutions
for
venues
and
the
insurance
issue
in
the
city
and
we
yeah.
We
just
really
appreciate
your
your
time
paid
to
this
issue.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
ms
jenkins,
for
your
presentation.
Let
me
see
if
there's
any
questions
of
you
checking
to
see
visiting
members,
no
members
of
committee
seeing
none
okay,
all
right.
I
I
wonder
then,
members
of
committee,
if
we
just
get
staffed
just
to
comment
and
or
there's
any
questions
from
staff
from
members
from
non-members
or
members,
looking
to
see,
if
there's
any
questions,
if
there
are
no
questions,
I'd
like
to
maybe
have
mr
tanner
comment
on
the
presentation
by
mr
bowring
and
jenkins
and
obviously
there's
the
status
as
to
where
things
are.
B
We
know
how
important
venues
like
lula,
lounge
and
others
are
to
the
city,
and
we
know
they've
been
impacted
greatly
and
we're
doing
everything
possible
to
work
with
and
advocate
on
behalf
of
this
sector
and
all
the
other
sectors
in
in
our
cultural
areas,
one
so,
mr
tanner,
I
wonder
if
we
could
get
you
just
to
comment.
Please.
A
A
We've
heard
of
exorbitant
increases
in
premiums,
as
the
speakers
have
outlined
more,
perhaps
even
more
threatening
we've
heard
of
venues
being
completely
unable
to
secure
insurance
at
any
cost.
The
the
immediate
effects
right
now
are
are
maybe
a
little
bit
insulated,
because
many
venues
that
we
understand
have
have
not
carried
commercial
liability
insurance
since
they're,
not
welcoming
patrons
through
their
doors,
but
at
such
time
as
the
public
health
regulations,
change
and
they're
allowed
to
do
that.
A
I
just
want
to
make
a
final
comment
before
perhaps
turning
over
to
my
colleague,
melissa
ferreira,
with
insurance
and
risk
management,
finance
and
treasury
services.
Who's
been
working
very
hard
on
this
issue
as
well,
and
that
is
that,
as
as
both
speakers
alluded,
there
were
initial
discussions
through
canadian
lab
music
association
with
the
province
of
ontario.
But
my
understanding
is
that
those
discussions
have
not
led
to
any
meaningful
change
or
or
initiations
of
new
policies.
B
A
Is
that
better
in
my
back,
the
last
thing
was
that
that
you,
you
heard,
but
I
just
mentioned
that
the
discussions
with
the
province
that
had
been
initiated
have
not
led
to
anything
meaningful.
I
think
melissa
with
finance
and
treasury
services
can
fill
in
some
details
on
the
city's
exploration
so
far
into
how
the
city
can
support
these
venues.
H
So
around
third
quarter
2019,
the
insurance
market
was
hardening.
So
there
was
a
reduced
capacity
out
in
the
market,
along
with
insurers,
not
making
the
profits
that
they
had
through.
You
know
the
low
interest
rates
that
they
were
seeing
and
their
investments,
just
not
you
know,
being
profitable,
so
they
were
looking
towards
making
their
profits
purely
on
underwriting
risk.
H
H
You
know
in
the
hundreds
of
billions
of
dollars
so
that
had
an
impact.
Then
we've
had
the
wildfires
that
have
created
losses
as
well
as
the
atlantic.
Hurricane
season,
so
continued
low
interest
rates-
and
these
you
know,
losses
that
these
insurers
are
experiencing
will
continue
to
drive
this
hard
market.
H
In
terms
of
what
we're
doing
here
at
the
city,
I've
been
working
with
mike,
along
with
our
insurance
broker
marsh
canada,
to
develop
a
program
that
we
can
present
to
support
the
live
music
industry,
we're
ironing
out.
You
know
some
of
the
wrinkles
that
you
know
we
see
with
with
putting
forward
this
program,
but
we
hope
that
putting
forward
a
program
to
insurers
and
we're
looking
to
get
a
group
of
insurers
who
really
want
to
support
the
live
music
industry
with
the
city
support.
H
You
know
and
I'm
consulting
with
the
cfo
as
well
to
get
her
support
and
just
work
through
some
of
the
logistics,
but
we'll
we'll
come
back
to
this
committee
and
to
you
chair
just
once,
we've
gone
through
some
of
those.
You
know
sort
of
fine-tuning
points
and
hope
to
have
something
that
we
can
present,
that
will
get
support
of
this
committee
and
will
benefit
the
live
music
venues.
B
B
B
K
Okay,
perfect.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
little
bit
more
insight
into
what
sean
and
tracy
have
already
mentioned.
We
are
basement.
254
is
a
small
73
person.
Capacity
live
music
venue
that
opened
very
recently
when
we
first
obtained
the
lease
it
was
at
the
beginning
of
2019
and
we
did
not
have
a
liquor
license.
As
of
yet
we
hosted
strictly
private
events,
events
with
special
occasion
permits
and
non-alcohol
events
as
well.
We
were
open,
maybe
one
or
two
times
a
week.
K
K
K
K
Obviously,
after
covert
nothing,
we
we
weren't
even
offered
like
it.
It
was
impossible
to
even
have
any
options.
Nobody
knew
what
to
do.
I
had
lengthy
conversations
with
individuals
in
the
insurance
industry
who
just
would
talk
my
ear
off
for
ages
about
I've.
Never
seen
anything
like
this.
I'm
sorry
it's
like
this,
but
I
really
can't
get
you
anything.
So
we
were
really
at
a
loss.
We
weren't
sure
what
to
do
like.
K
We
were
lucky
that
our
landlord
was
open-minded,
which
generally
isn't
the
case
because
of
course
we
did
need
to
have
insurance
to
be
in
compliance
with
our
lease.
We
didn't
for
that
period
of
time,
and
then
we
were
shut
closed
down
because
of
covid.
I
do
also
want
to
point
out
that
we
do,
of
course,
also
pay
tmi
as
part
of
our
as
part
of
our
rent.
We
pay
our
landlord's
portion
of
his
insurance.
K
K
K
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
Sir.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
deputy
visiting
members
saying
none
members
of
committee
sing
them.
Thank
you,
sir.
Those
are.
There
are
no
questions
of
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome
all
right
to
speak
speakers
on
this
item.
Let
me
just
check
visiting
member
first,
so
see
none
of
the
president
did
you
have
questions
just
to
speak.
B
F
Well,
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
to
the
three
deputies.
The
recommendation
in
front
of
us
here
today
is
coming
out
of
our
our
most
recent
toronto
music
advisory
committee
meeting,
and-
and
so
we
at
this
committee
have
discussed
the
issue
at
length.
We
know
that
venues
are
closing
in
real
time
right
now
and
the
risk
is
not
simply
losing
a
couple
dozen
venues
in
our
city,
but
rather
losing
nearly
all
of
them.
B
Thank
you
very
much
council
chrissy,
any
further
speakers
on
this
item.
Council
chris.
I
would
just
concur
with
respect
to
your
remarks
and
just
say
to
you
that
yeah.
This
is
an
area
in
an
industry
that
we
can't
allow
to
fail,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
staff,
mr
tanner
and
finance
staff,
miss
ferreira
for
the
work
that's
being
done
in
terms
of
this
consideration
and
obviously
just
to
finally
say
to
this
sector.
B
B
This
is
not
a
city
where
simply
we
produce
widgets,
it's
a
city
where
we
have
a
thriving
culture,
and
we
know
that
there
are
challenges,
and
you
know
to
be
fair.
I
think
that
the
miss
ferrara
has
indicated
the
insurance
industry
has
experienced
a
great
deal
of
challenges
in
terms
of
claims
and
losses,
and
so
on.
So
I
think
it's
a
mitigation
of
risk
associated
with,
obviously
the
industry,
you
know
taking
obviously
stock
as
to
what
the
challenges
and
opportunities
are.
B
It's
clear
with
respect
to
their
concern
and
we
just
wanted
to
ensure
that
they
understand
that
we
are
going
to
stand
with
them
and
advocate
on
behalf
and
to
work
with
them
to
assist
them.
So
with
that
being
said,
all
those
in
favor
with
respect
to
the
recommendations
of
the
item,
a
post
that
carries.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right
moving
right
along
councillor
carol.
B
I
think
we
are
not
at
our
item
yet,
but
very
soon,
we'll
be
there
we're
next
moving
to
the
item
ec
19.5,
a
theater
review
for
inclusivity
and
equity.
I
believe,
madam
clerk,
we
had
one
speaker
when
I
last
spoke
and
there
might
be
other
speakers
if
there
are
additional
speakers,
please
let
me
know,
but
if
we
could
proceed
now
to
having
the
deputy
who
is
listed,
you
could
call
the
deputy
please.
H
B
B
There
may
be
questions
of
you
from
non-members
of
the
committee
and
also
members
of
the
committee
there's
a
clock
and
that
I
can
see
so
I'll
help
you
to
understand
that
you
have
in
terms
of
the
remaining
time
that
you
have
to
conclude
your
remarks,
which
will
be
at
the
four
minutes
and
30
second
mark.
So
you
may
begin
in
good
morning
and
happy
new
year.
Welcome.
E
E
This
includes
resistance
to
the
land,
acknowledgement
in
meetings,
local
theater
productions
and
play
readings
have
included
use
of
the
n-word
lynchings
brown
face
black
face
and
yellow
face
city
of
toronto.
Recreational
office
staff
and
theater
buildings
have
told
me
that
artists
of
color
have
told
the
office.
That
quote,
these
groups
have
no
place
for
me
unquote
and
one
individual
actively
diverts
them
to
other
groups.
E
When
I've
reported
incidents
for
resolution,
I
was
yelled
at
hung
up
on
and
voted
afterwards.
Reprisal
is
fierce
theaters
like
scarborough
village,
theater
and
paper
mill
have
produced.
These
plays,
as
well
as
other
groups
in
private
spaces
within
the
gta,
and
this
is
important
to
address,
because
artists,
regardless
of
background
ethnicity
or
color,
should
feel
comfortable
to
participate.
E
Dealing
with
oppressive
offensive
and
stereotypical
content
or
rules
serves
to
alienate
and
traumatize
theater
is
low,
paying
or
in
the
case
of
community
theater
is
voluntary.
The
only
payback
is
a
sense
of
community
and
achievement,
and
high
school
students
often
support
productions
as
part
of
their
volunteer
hours.
It
is
especially
important
to
ensure
that
students
and
minors
are
in
safe
spaces
and
not
exposed
to
these
experiences.
E
The.
In
addition,
please
establish
mandatory
dei
and
intimacy
training
for
artistic
groups
participating
in
public
buildings
for
board
members
stage,
managers,
producers
and
creative
teams
and
finally,
remove
groups
that
monopolize
city
spaces
and
create
equitable
application
process
for
those
spaces.
E
Finally,
there
are
other
independent
groups
in
the
city
that
have
established
diversity,
equity
inclusion
policies
and
action
plans,
and
they
pay
their
artists.
They
can
serve
as
a
foundation
going
forward
and
should
receive
priority,
and
I've
submitted
previously
10
examples
of
productions.
To
illustrate
my
points.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
L
B
L
E
Everything
that
I've
I've
tried
to
be
succinct
and
and
made
a
few
requests
that,
hopefully,
are
clear.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
of
clarity,
please
let
me
know,
and-
and
please
know
in
addition-
I
am
here
ready
to
put
my
hand
up
and
help
in
any
way.
I
can
I've
been
I'm
invested
in
this
for
over
20
years,
and
I've
worked
with
so
many
groups
within
the
gta
and
and
it
can
be
good
when
it's
good,
but
when
it's
bad,
you
know.
L
E
I
I
think
that
that
would
be
very
important.
There's
so
many
reasons
why
in
professional
theater
it
happens
as
well,
and
for
those
of
you
that
are
interested,
I
think
it
was
stratford
festival
that
has
did
a
great
meeting
where
a
lot
of
their
professional
bipark
actors
spoke
but
were
and
did
share
how
reluctant
they
were,
and
it
does
illustrate
how
important
it
is
to
provide
a
safe
place
where
people
can
speak
openly.
L
B
B
D
Through
the
chair
to
council
rains,
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
deputies
concerns
are
significant
and
not
restricted
to
toronto
in
terms
of
issues
facing
the
theater
community
and
the
performing
arts.
More
broadly,
there
are
trusted
intermediaries,
like
the
professional
association
of
theaters
in
toronto,
who
have
been
undertaking
efforts
to
improve
the
competence
in
these
areas,
and
I
would
suggest
that
we
would
work
first
with
those
as
a
means
of
affording
that
type
of
access
and
confidentiality
that
you
you
ask
of.
D
So
I
think,
to
respond
to
your
question
directly.
There
are
ways
to
do
it
might
be
best
done
using
intermediaries
with
expertise
and
and
standing
on
some
of
these
issues,
but
certainly
in
terms
of
the
provision
of
space
to
theater
companies.
Any
group
using
city
of
toronto
space
needs
to
adhere
to
any
harassment,
any
discrimination
policies
for
the
city.
So
that
is
something
that
we
would
bear
in
mind
in
this
report.
G
Thanks
mr
chair,
I'm
wondering
in
I
when
I
first
looked
at
at
the
motion.
I
was
thinking
in
terms
of
of
making
sure
that
we're
we're
being
inclusive
and
and
promoting
the
groups
that
get
in
and
that
work
is,
is
right
now
very
energetically
being
undertaken
by
the
arts.
Council
they've
they've,
taken
it
upon
themselves
to
to
to
to
really
make
sure
that
they're
contributing
to
some
of
the
change
that
we
want
in
terms
of
confronting
anti-black
racism
in
the
city.
D
D
So,
as
you
suggested,
work
is
underway
with
the
toronto
arts
council
with
city
staff,
so
certainly
we'd
be
in
a
position
to
talk
about
the
progress
of
that
work.
Certainly
provision
a
space,
as
noted
in
the
last
set
of
deputations
relating
to
live
music
venues
is
a
bit
of
a
shifting
field
right
now,
given
the
impacts
of
the
pandemic,
so
we
would
be
able
to
report
back
in
an
interim
fashion
while
providing
recommendations
for
further
in
the
future
to
address
the
issue
at
a
more
structural
level.
G
We
have
faced
this
before,
albeit
a
long
time
ago,
in
in
in
city-owned
theaters,
I'm
thinking
back
to
when
it
was
called
the
north
york
center
for
the
performing
arts,
and
there
was
a
great
debate
rage
there
between
the
production
of
ragtime
that
opened
that
theater
actually
dealt
with
racism
within
its
speech.
But
then,
then,
the
next
production
was
a
historical
production
of
showboat
that
is
sort
of
a
dated
production
that
that
that
one
could
take
issue
with,
and
so
this
whole
thing
opened
up.
G
That
you
know
is
a
curriculum
piece
of
material
dealing
with
racism.
The
the
the
the
prize-winning
script
doubt
that
deals
with
sexual
impropriety
in
the
catholic
church,
particularly
among
poorer
communities
and
and
communities
of
persons
of
color.
Some
of
those
are
messages
that
are
instructive
in
some
people's
view
and
not
others.
Do
we
have
policy
about
how
far
we
venture
into
passing
judgment
on
things
like
that.
D
D
A
series
of
strong
protections
in
place-
and
I
think
many
of
the
concerns
raised
by
the
deputy
there
are
intermediaries
in
the
field
in
professional
theater,
who
have
been
supported
by
various
orders
of
government
to
play
a
role
in
this
space
that
we
might
want
to
call
upon
to
help
address
the
needs.
The
deputies
identified.
G
Yeah,
so
in
your
report,
you
would
undertake
to
explain
to
us
the
the
the
the
peer
adjudication
method
that
that
addresses
some
of
these
issues
and
then
and
then
look
to
address
any
gaps
for
us,
for
instance,
productions
that
that
don't
go
anywhere
near
the
arts
council
for
funding,
and
so
so
we
we
we
might
find
something.
You
would
just
do
a
sort
of
a
gap.
Analysis
there
is
that
the
understanding.
D
L
L
I
brought
it
before
this
committee
because
I
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
economic
and
community
development,
the
proper
place
for
this
to
be
dealt
with
is
here
at
this
committee.
It
was,
and
it
was
initially
brought
forward
to
me
on
a
social
media
platform
that
I
utilize
and
I
responded
to
the
person
in
question.
L
I
then
received
a
number
of
private
messages
from
people
that
were
also
involved
in
the
theater
community
in
the
city
of
toronto,
bringing
forward
the
same
concerns
around
inclusive
inclusivity
and
equity,
and
they
brought
it
forward
to
me
on
a
social
media
platform
and
by
emails
in
a
confidential
matter.
Their
concern
was
chiefly
amongst
all
of
this
that
to
be
consulted
properly,
it
had
to
be
done
in
a
confidential
matter
in
a
confidential
manner.
So
I
appreciate
mr
tobin's
discussions
around
using
a
third
party
intermediary.
I
think
that
that
will
help
move
this
forward.
L
B
G
G
There
are,
of
course,
responsibilities
that
we
want
to
take,
particularly
in
venues
we
own
or
or
productions
that
we
fund
to
make
sure
that
that
in
casting
opportunities
there
we
have,
we
have
mountains
of
black,
theatrical
talent,
and
so
a
black
person
can
easily
play
a
play,
a
black
person
in
any
production.
That's
absolutely
true!
G
G
Some
of
these
are
are
debates
that
are
going
to
go
on
forever
and
ever
amen
and
and
we
have
to
decide
whether
we
want
to
be
in
them
or
not.
But
I'm
I'm
satisfied
from
the
the
answers
to
the
questions
from
mr
tobin
that
they
understand
that
that's
going
to
be
a
difficult
part
of
this
work
and
that
they're
they
are
going
to
tread
carefully
and
come
back
with
the
most
workable
solution
for
us.
So
I
thank
him
for
that
undertaking.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
B
Okay,
seeing
now,
I
will
just
take
a
moment
to
to
thank
council
rainsley
for
bringing
this
matter
forward
and
to
thank
the
speaker
for
the
deputy
for
speaking
on
this
matter
and
also
to
thank
counselor
carroll,
because
I
think
that
counselor
carol
highlights
the
complexity
in
terms
of
these
issues
and
so
on.
There's
a
historical
element
to
these
things
that
are
worthwhile
in
terms
of
lessons
learned,
although
the
depiction
may
be
offensive
to
some
people
in
terms
of
some
of
the
you
know
the
comments.
B
But
we
need
to
ensure
that
we
see
full
reform
in
terms
of
this
particular
process
and
that
leadership
has
to
come
from
us
and
with
the
staff
and
the
recommendations.
So
I
do
look
forward
to
the
information
coming
forward
and
I
think
that
whether
or
not
it's
a
tour
report
or
the
building
back
stronger
report,
all
along
with
the
work
that
council
carroll
has
pointed
out
that
the
arts
council
is
doing.
There
is
a
recognition
that
there
are
some
problems
and
then
there's
a
requirement
for
us
to
fully
respond.
To
it.
B
I
mean
the
days
of
lip
service
to
these
issues
are
gone
and
they
should
be
fully.
You
know
dispense
with,
as
we
are
dispensing
with
covenants
one
and
move
forward
so
that
we
can
get
that
true
professionalism,
and
we
can
ensure
that
you
know
the
amputation
of
of
the
spirits
and
or
professionalism
of
those
folks
in
the
bible,
community
and
so
on
are
not
if
you
will
reinforce
by
the
actions
of
of
of
some
and
ensure
that
we
create
this
inclusivity.
B
B
We
want
to
basically
enhance
the
opportunity
in
which
create
opportunities
for
people
to
really
reach
their
potential,
and
this
is
really
what
it's
all
about:
optimizing
and
reaching
excellence
so
that
we
all
will
be
better
for
it,
and
so
I
think
that
it's
it's
time
that
we
address
these
things.
I
look
forward
to
staff
bringing
back
the
report
now.
I
could
move
the
item.
So
all
those
in
unless
there's
any
additional
speakers,
I
see
none
all
those
in
favor.
B
I
only
see
one
two
hands:
counseling
council
crescent
council
carols
and
I
see
cancer
ainslie's
hand,
but
regrettably
encounters
you
know
the
rules
there,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
encouraging
members
to
put
their
hands
up
all
right
pose
that
carries.
Thank
you
very
much
and
again.
Thank
you.
Chancellor
ramsey
carol
we're
at
our
last
item,
which
is
the
firefighter's
future
of
staffing
requirements.
I
indicated
the
indicator.
You
had
some
questions.
G
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
quick
question
of
staff
there
there
is
the
review
coming,
and
so
so
this
this
this
motion
asks
that
it
that
it
it
just
be.
You
know
a
comment
attached
to
that
review.
That's
coming,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
in
moving
this
motion
now
so
close
to
the
budget
process
if
it
based
on
the
recent
incidents.
If
in
the
budget
process,
we
should
decide
that
we
want
to
address
this
in
part
within
the
2021
budget
process.
G
Is
it
staff's
understanding
that
that
that
asking
for
this
further
report
in
2021
doesn't
tie
our
hands
we
wouldn't
find
in
the
budget
process?
Should
we
should
we
decide
to
to
direct
some
extra
dollars
here?
We
wouldn't
be
told
no
economic
seized
of
the
matter,
and
so
you
can't
add
it
and
would
we
would
we
still
be
okay
if
we
want
to
to
add
something
this
year.
F
B
B
B
B
That's
actually
being
done
certainly
does
not
in
any
way
prevent
them
from
as
they
as
indicated,
always
being
able
to
bring
forward
requests
through
the
council
through
this
committee
on
matters
that
are
obviously
immediate
in
terms
of
needing
investment,
to
ensure
the
health
and
welfare
and
safety
of
certainly
the
public,
but
also
of
the
men
and
women
who
are,
you
know,
frontline
heroes,
working
in
our
toronto
fire
services,
and
so
on.
So
with
that,
I
would
like
to
move
the
recommendation.
B
That's
there
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
questions
further
skinny,
because
we're
speaking
now,
but
all
those
in
favor
of
the
recommendation
in
the
additional
item
a
pose
that
carries
okay,
thank
you
and
thank
you
very
much
deputy
jessica.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
counselor
carol
for
the
questions
members
we
have,
I
believe,
reached
that
point
where
we
have
exhausted
the
short
agenda.
It's
10
56
and
I'd
like
to
ask
madam
clerk.
B
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
there
is
any
additional
things
that
you
may
wish
to
comment
on
or
anything
that
we
may
have
missed.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
give
you
the
opportunity
to
make
comment
just
because
we're
operating
so
remotely
and
just
to
ensure
that
we
haven't
missed
anything
to
ensure
that
we
are
in
compliance
with
respect
to
our
orders
and
procedures.
H
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
input
and
your
leadership
and
thank
you
to
all
the
staff
I'd
like
to
maybe
ask
for
a
motion
to
adjourn,
and
I
see
the
hands
of
counselor
lie.
Thank
you
very
much
and
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Thank
you
very
much
members.
I
wish
you
and
staff
a
good
day.
Please
stay
safe
and
healthy
all
the
best.
Thank
you.