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Economic and Community Development Committee, meeting 5, May 27, 2019 - Part 2 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=15384
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPV4os4R9bU
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C
I
have
worked
with
the
Toronto
rape
crisis
center,
multicultural,
Women,
Against
Rape
for
20
years,
and
after
that,
I
became
a
faculty
member
with
the
assaulted
women's
and
children's
councillor
advocate
program
at
George.
Brown
College
been
there
since
2000,
but
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
today,
I'm
also
been
involved
with
police
accountability
work
since
I
came
to
Toronto
in
1982
and
I'm
a
longtime
member
of
the
Toronto
police
accountability
coalition.
C
My
remarks
today
are
informed
by
what
I
have
learned
from
speaking
directly
with
women
who
do
sex
work
with
migrant
workers
and
their
advocates
from
groups
such
as
butterfly
and
Maggie's,
and
by
the
communications
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
from
Professor
Marianna
Valverde
and
the
Chinese
in
Southeast.
Asian
legal
clinic
I
really
am
going
to
sort
of
support
and
reiterate
what
many
many
speakers
have
said
today
to
you
and
really
support
the
recommendations
and
amendments
that
have
been
brought
forward
by
butterfly
and
Maggie's,
and
really
support.
C
C
I
think
she
found
perhaps
three
to
five
cases
and
that
there
is
other
evidence
that
sex
trafficking
is
actually
not
a
major
issue
in
Toronto
in
Canada.
So
we've
got
to
be
really
really
mindful
and
careful
and
make
sure
that
our
responses
to
exploitation
of
vulnerable
and
marginalized
people
in
all
workplaces,
particularly
racialized
migrant
women,
must
be
informed
by
the
facts
and
must
be
informed
by
the
workers
themselves
and
we're
speaking
about
women
and
trans
folks
and
others
work
currently
working
in
the
field.
C
The
report
suggests
the
creation
of
a
new
support
and
outreach
team
that
will
not
perhaps
or
may
not
have
established
and
trusting
relationships
with
migrant
workers
and
sex
workers
and
I
just
want
to
support
the
city
really
turning
their
investment.
If,
if
it's
in
outreach
and
in
a
strategy
for
addressing
this
issue,
really
using
the
wonderful
resources
and
support
groups
that
already
are
active
on
this
issue
and
that's
butterfly,
that's
Maggie's,
the
Workers
Action
Center,
the
fcg
refugee
center.
You
really
can't
do
this
kind
of
work
without
having
established
trusted
relationships
with
people.
C
Any
kind
of
social
or
community
work
is
dependent
on
having
relationships
and
so
to
create.
I
don't
know
if
the
report
is
suggesting
this,
but
if,
if
the
idea
is
to
create
a
new
outreach
team
or
suggest
that
the
police
work
in
concert
with
community
members
on
some
sort
of
outreach,
team,
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
work
and
in
fact
may
drive
people
underground
and
sex
workers
further
underground
because
of
the
fear.
C
They'll
have
and
will
also
perhaps
ignore
the
very
real
issues
that
other
migrant
workers
who
are
being
trafficked
face,
as
the
report
says,
in
hotels
and
restaurants
and
many
many
other
places.
So
we
really
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
using
the
resources
and
I
would
strongly
encourage
the
city
to
invest
resources
in
those
groups
that
have
those
relationships.
Police
are
not
social
workers,
they're,
not
good
at
it.
They're
not
trained
for
it.
They're
very
difficult
to
train
I
have
participated
in
training
in
the
past.
C
It's
a
take,
control
and
police
always
always
no
matter
what
their
interactions
with
the
public
will
have
the
duty
to
be
looking
at.
Are
you
breaking
the
law
and
am
I
going
to
detain
you
because
of
that?
And
that
does
not
jibe
with
social
work?
That
is
not
the
way
a
social
worker
approaches
doing
this
work,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
I
know.
Councillor
Carroll
was
talking
a
lot
about.
You
know
joint
efforts
and
training
police.
It's
a
very
expensive
way
to
go.
I
would
say
it's
not
necessary.
C
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I
do
want
to
ask
some
questions
about
the
deputation,
but
I
but
I,
but
I
the
first
question
has
to
be
based
on
your
last
comment.
You
I
hope.
Do
you
understand
I
have
to
form
it
in
the
question
that
when
I
was
asking
my
things
about
the
police,
it
wasn't
training
in
this.
This
report
is
about
how
we
serve
survivors
that
was
I
was
asking
questions
about
police
training
with
regards
to
the
work
that
they
do
have
to
do
right.
D
This
isn't
their
work
to
do,
but
if
we're,
if
we're
gonna,
have
this
set
up
and
they
don't
respect
it
or
think
it
needs
to
be
accessed,
then
we
still
have
a
problem
that
so
they're
not
part
of
this
report
absolutely,
but
the
work
that
I
was
exposed
to
that
Scott
was
doing
back
in
2016
that
integrated
them
to
give
them
greater
understanding
was
was
I,
was
having
an
impact.
I
think
would
would
you
be
familiar
with
the
work
that
was
going
on
with
that
joint
project
at
the
time
I'm
not
familiar
with
it?
Okay,.
D
D
So
on
on
this
one,
the
reason
I
asked
questions
about
the
approach
where
the
approach
I
think
Jenny
mentioned
it
earlier,
where,
where
the
the
agencies
and
NGOs
and
and
supporters
like,
like
Maggie's
and
butterfly
etc,
are
the
frontline
and
we're
the
next
line,
we're
not
going
in
partnership
with
them.
Do
you
have
a
concern
that
if
we
approach
it
that
way,
the
kind
of
the
kind
of
extreme
sensitivity
and
full
understanding
that
you
want
we're
never
in
the
field,
so
we'll
never
gain
it?
C
I,
don't
think
it's
it's
necessarily
either
or
absolutely
all
of
us
should
be
educated
about
the
issues.
We
should
understand
the
vulnerabilities
of
migrant
workers,
I
think,
and
so
yes,
city
staff-
absolutely
should
be
trained
in
that.
So,
if
it's
my
misunderstanding,
but
the
notion
that
a
new
outreach
team,
you
know
that
has
to
yet
develop
those
relationships,
etc.
C
D
If
we
were
to,
if
we
adopt
the
motion,
as
it's
been
proposed,
to
be
amended
to
develop
an
outreach
model,
yeah,
wouldn't
you
you
would
agree
that
that
that
the
education
you'd
be
looking
at
looking
for
from
the
city.
People
taking
part
in
the
model.
They're
not
gonna,
be
fully
educated
if
they
don't
have
real
exposure.
Maybe.
C
Yeah,
maybe
it's
a
little
bit
the
wording.
I
think
it
would
be
to
build
upon
the
model
that
exists
right,
so
just
be
be
conscious
of
not
recreating
that
there's
been
an
effective
model
developed
by
grassroots
groups.
I
guess
I
may
be
speaking
a
little
bit
from
experience
where,
just
in
terms
of
gender
violence
services,
we
have
seen
institutions
like
the
police,
like
the
Health
System,
develop
parallel
kinds
of
things
that
are
problematic
right.
That.
B
E
Right,
hi,
everyone,
my
name
is
Janelle
Gallants
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
chance
to
speak
here
today.
So
I
have
been
working
on
issues
related
to
people
in
the
sex
trade
for
15
years.
I
am
the
director
of
the
migrant
sex
workers
project,
an
organization
of
migrants,
sex
workers
and
allies,
and
I
am
formerly
a
staff
member
with
the
aboriginal
sex
workers,
education
and
outreach
project
at
Maggie's,
where
I
worked
under
the
leadership
of
indigenous
women
in
the
sex
trade.
E
E
Why
we're
here
I'm
here,
because
in
2004,
while
I
was
visiting
some
family
in
Vancouver
I
learned
of
the
massacre
of
sex
workers
that
was
occurring
on
the
Downtown
Eastside
at
the
time
I
had
family
in
the
sex
industry
at
the
time
not
on
the
streets
but
close
enough
to
them
that
it
terrified
me
so
I
decided
then
and
there
that
I
would
do
everything
I
could
to
prevent
that
from
ever
happening
again
and
over
the
years.
I
realized
that
we
could
actually
do
much
better
than
that.
E
We
could
do
more
than
simply
prevent
horrible
instances
of
violence,
but
that
actually
we
could
ensure
that
sex
workers
get
the
right
to
be
free
free
to
go
about
their
lives
with
safety,
respect
and
liberty.
So
I
joined
the
sex
workers,
rights
movement,
a
global
movement
for
the
rights
of
people
in
the
sex
trade,
and
today
we
have
this
incredible
opportunity
to
create
policy
that
works
for
migrant
sex
workers
and
to
prevent
human
trafficking.
E
I've
learned
a
great
deal
about
what
keeps
sex
workers
safe
and
what
protects
their
freedom
and
I
want
to
share
some
of
that
as
it
bears
on
policy.
Regarding
trafficking
and
body,
rub
parlors,
so
I'm
going
to
assume
that
we're
all
here,
because
we
all
believe
in
the
rights
of
all
people
to
live
with
freedom,
safety
and
dignity.
But
how
do
we
accomplish
this?
And
this
is
what
we're
hearing
different
voices
on
today?
So
first
I
want
to
acknowledge
what
I've
seen
of
the
city's
work
on
this.
E
That
I
think
is
really
working,
and
that's
that
the
SDF,
a
report
on
body
rub
parlors
recognized
the
importance
of
distinguishing
sex
work
from
trafficking
right
and
it
might
be
complex
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
very
familiar
with
this
issue.
Why
that's
so
important?
But
this
is
an
excellent
step
toward
protecting
the
human
rights
of
sex
workers
and
trafficking
survivors.
E
So,
thankfully,
though,
we
do
have
strategies
that
we
know
work
so
Anna
Willits
prior
to
me,
and
many
of
the
deputies
today
refer
to
existing
networks
of
support
that
reduce
the
harms
of
any
anti-trafficking
policies
on
migrants
and
sex
workers.
So
what
I'm
gonna
recommend
to
council
are
some
of
the
same
recommendations.
You'd
have
heard
from
other
deputies.
The
first
is
an
outreach
program
to
community
organizations
and
not
to
workplaces,
so
community
organizations
have
existing
trusting
relationships
with
migrants
and
sex
workers
and
they're
able
to
develop
the
best
strategy
that
works.
E
These
organizations
can
share
policies
and
educate
the
community
through
channels
that
are
working
as
part
of
this
to
stop
reliance
on
surveillance
and
inspections
in
workplaces.
These
just
don't
work
for
the
reasons
that
and
I
will
appoint
it
out.
People
in
the
sex,
trade,
immigrants,
indigenous
women
and
survivors
of
sexual
violence
largely
do
not
want
to
turn
to
enforcement
agents
for
support
resources,
information
or
even
safety.
E
In
the
research
that
butterfly
conducted,
they
found
that
95
percent
of
Asian
migrant
sex
workers
said
they
would
not
call
the
police,
even
if
they
were
at
risk
of
serious
physical
violence.
That
might
not
be
what
we
want
to
be
true,
but
it
is
what
is
true
now
and
we
need
to
make
policy
based
on
that,
so
locating
access
to
services
in
enforcement
branches
actually
puts
services
out
of
reach
of
the
people
who
most
need
them.
E
Contact
with
city
staff
must
be
wanted
and
voluntary.
This
is
a
basic
premise
that
is
used
as
a
best
PAC
practice
in
the
violence
against
women
sector,
where
they
employ
a
person-centered
approach,
so
that
services
are
accessible,
understood,
trusted
wanted
non-discriminatory
and
people
can
reach
out
to.
B
B
B
F
So
hello,
my
name
is
Vivian
Wu
and
I'm
a
second
year
undergraduate
student
studying
health
sciences
at
McMaster,
University
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
butterfly,
to
present
someone's
narrative
and
tell
their
story
so
Asian
migrant
sex
workers
are
often
perceived
to
be
at
risk
of
abuse
from
their
traffickers,
who
are
often
in
fact
their
colleagues,
partners
or
friends.
Working
with
and
supporting
them
and
current
policies
meant
to
prevent
exploitation
and
forced
labor
are
not
effective
or
empowering
as
the
surveillance
of
sex
workers.
F
An
assumption
of
all
the
third
parties
are
traffickers,
actually
increased
risk
and
vulnerability.
These
policies
take
away
migrant
sex
workers,
ability
to
negotiate
for
better
working
conditions
and
protect
themselves
and
their
own
community
from
different
kinds
of
oppression.
They
further
marginalize
migrant
sex
workers
by
preventing
them
from
reporting
experiences
of
violence
or
harassment
due
to
fear
of
repercussions
from
law
enforcement,
and
so
migrant
sex
workers
are
arrested,
detained
and
deported
in
some
anti
trafficking
investigations.
F
So
here's
a
story
of
one
of
the
members
of
our
own
support
network
son
who
was
arrested
and
deported
in
an
anti
trafficking
investigation
in
Toronto,
so
son
had
lived
in
Canada
for
five
years
and
she
built
a
stable
life
here.
She
had
a
lot
of
friends
routine
her
days
and
she
strongly
believed
in
the
importance
of
her
work.
F
So
as
an
indoor
sex
worker,
she
was
also
an
active
member
of
butterfly
and
she
was
often
found
to
be
offering
advice
and
support
for
newly
arrived
migrants
and
other
sex
work
workers
and
through
this
network
she
formed
trusting
and
reciprocal
relationships
with
her
work.
Colleagues,
as
well
as
close
friendships
with
some
of
her
clients.
F
So
one
day,
son
and
her
colleague
were
at
their
house
when
they
heard
the
doorbell
ring
and
a
few
male
police
officers
brushed
into
their
apartment
without
warning,
son
and
her
colleague
were
grabbed
and
they
were
interrogated
by
the
police
officers
and
one
of
the
officers
who
spoke
their
language
told
them.
Don't
be
scared.
Are
you
under
control?
Anyone
is
anyone
forcing
you
to
do
this.
Do
do
you
have
a
boss
and
a
son?
She
was
absolutely
terrified.
F
She
responded,
no
I'm
doing
this
out
of
my
own
will,
and
she
also
mentioned
that
she
didn't
have
a
boss.
So
the
officer
then
proceeded
to
ask
her
series
of
questions,
including
how
long
she
had
been
in
Canada
and
what
her
immigration
status
was.
But
son
was
not
a
trafficked
individual
and
she
wasn't
being
controlled
by
anyone.
F
D
So
this
is
where
I
think
there
it
seems,
as
if
over
lunch,
there's
become
a
misunderstanding
about
questions.
I
was
asking
earlier
on,
and
your
story
is
why
I've
been
asking
the
questions
I've
been
asking:
wouldn't,
wouldn't
you
say
that?
Well
we
have
an
item
here
and
and
a
proposal,
and
we
have
an
amendment
from
the
community
which
is
about
supporting
survivors
of
human
trafficking.
D
F
A
F
D
D
No
I
didn't
need
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
Aileen
was
here
earlier
today,
but
I
think
I.
Think
there's
some
misunderstanding.
It's
not
that
I'm
saying
they
should
be
part
of
this
I'm.
Just
saying
that
if
there
isn't
some
integration
that
that
that
narrative
does
not
stop
yeah
and
we,
you
would
agree
with
that,
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
review
and
may
I
just
say
this
as
a
young
person
and
you're,
a
university
students
on
you've
done
an
amazing
job
in
terms
of
representing
the
voice
that
you're
asked
to
represent
here.
So
thank
you
look
forward
to
seeing
you
back
whether
or
not
it's
on
this
issue
or
other
issues.
This
is
your
city.
We
want
to
make
it
a
better
place
for
everybody
appreciate
you
having
me
here.
Thank
you.
B
B
F
A
B
G
The
agenda
item,
which
is
what
I
saw,
is
worded
as
if
it
has
already
been
established
with
solid
evidence
that
first
of
all
sex
trafficking,
is
a
major
issue
in
Toronto
and
that
second,
the
city,
rather
than
the
police,
have
a
responsibility
to
investigate
premises
that
are
thought
to
be
harboring
such
activities.
I
think
both
of
these
premises
are
questionable
from
an
empirical
point
of
view.
G
For
years
now,
many
police
forces,
including
the
RCMP,
have
been
using
the
trafficking
law
rather
than
prostitution
laws,
and
this
is
because
the
Harper
government
passed
a
new
prostitution
law
in
2014,
subsequent
to
the
Bedford
decision
of
the
Supreme
Court
that
struck
down
the
old
laws.
Those
new
well
that
new
law
that
was
passed
passed
under
Harper
is
on
thin
legal
and
constitutional
grounds.
I
can't
get
into
it
now,
but
our
evidence
is
that
police
have
been
using
the
trafficking
law
instead
of
the
old.
You
know,
pimping,
style,
kind
of
lost.
G
And
later
there
was
a
doctoral
thesis
at
York,
University
supervised
by
professor
Kamala
Kahn
padieu
who's.
Here
that
showed
more
or
less
the
same
thing
and
as
I
recall,
haven't
had
time
to
reread
it.
She
found
when
she
was
writing
a
thesis
that
there
were
exactly
three
prosecution's
across
the
country
for
trafficking
and
none
of
them
involved
the
classic
women
being
smuggled
against
their
will
across
borders.
Now
police
forces
have
used
the
trafficking
law
for
situations
of
purely
local
pimping.
G
G
Plenty
of
investigations
have
been
carried
out,
including
many
in
Toronto,
in
which
the
city
specifically
MLS
has
participated,
but
while
sex
trafficking
is
certainly
a
big
problem
in
many
parts
of
the
world,
that
doesn't
appear
to
be
the
case
here,
and
in
any
case
that
is
the
police.
Not
city.
Inspectors,
have
the
responsibility
for
enforcing
the
criminal
law
as
the
butter
fight,
as
the
butterfly
group
has
documented
investigations
of
purported
sex
trafficking
have
long
resulted
in
migrant
women
being
harassed,
stigmatized
find
in
some
cases
deported
though
I
am
very
happy
to
say
for
our.
G
You
know,
colleagues
in
MLS
that
I
hear
things
are
much
better
now,
because
when
Traci
Cook
was
in
charge
of
MLS
I
think
she
took.
You
know,
complaints
quite
seriously.
So
you
know
things
certainly
have
changed,
but
they
could
always
go
back
the
other
way,
so
I
would
just
urge
you
to
listen
to
the
migrant
women
represented
by
butterfly
and
other
groups,
the
fcj
refugee
center,
the
hiv-aids
Carla
and
basically
put
an
end
to
the
crusade
that
has,
for
some
time
now
been
actually
harming
the
very
women
that
you
want
to
protect.
G
B
H
B
H
My
name
is
renee
numerous
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
showing
that
for
racial
justice
Toronto
today,
I'm
also
a
registered
social
worker
and
I'm
completing
my
PhD
in
social
work.
Right
now,
at
York,
University
I
have
experience
in
violence
against
women
service
provision
and
have
several
years
experience
related
to
advocacy
issues
on
sex
works.
H
Justice
I'm
here
to
represent
a
body
of
Toronto
residents
who
are
concerned
about
the
demonstrated
harms
of
repressive
and
restrictive
laws
and
enforcement
that
conflate
sex
work
and
human
trafficking,
which
has
been
wildly
talked
about
today,
and
this
particularly
detrimental
impacts
experienced
by
migrant
workers,
migrant
sex
workers
or
migrant
workers
who
are
suspected
of
sex
work.
We
are
pleased
that
the
city
report
has
acknowledged
these
terms
and
are
really
encouraged
that
the
city
hopes
to
adopt
a
strategy
that
will
not
increase
the
vulnerability
of
sex
workers
across
most
industries.
H
Exploitation
is
often
the
result
of
discrimination,
poverty
and
other
curious
circumstances.
A
report
was
recently
released
by
the
color
of
poverty,
which
demonstrated
that
racialized
immigrant
women
face
increased
levels
of
poverty,
as
well
as
poor
working
conditions.
These
statistics
emphasize
that,
in
moving
forward
with
the
strategy,
it's
foundational
to
consider
the
very
specific
ways
in
which
narratives
of
human
trafficking
are
often
shaped
by
racist
stereotypes,
but
also
the
conflation
of
sex
work
and
human
trafficking,
as
well
as
the
collation
of
poor
working
conditions
and
human
trafficking.
H
Poor
working
conditions
do
not
translate
to
a
trafficking
situation,
but
it's
very
common
that
poor
working
conditions
are
interpreted
as
trafficking.
A
community
services
and
supports
approach
is
integral
to
the
effectiveness
of
this
committee
strategy,
when
people's
choices
are
limited
due
to
poverty
and
inequality,
it's
extremely
harmful
to
reduce
a
person's
choices,
even
further
punitive
regulations,
further
impact
individuals
right
to
work
and
thereby
contribute
to
poverty
for
workers
already
marginalized
by
injustice
and
inequality.
H
So
we're
asking
the
city
to
support
the
development
of
an
outreach
model
and
an
appropriate
pilot
strategy
in
consultation
with
community
members,
sex
workers,
migrant
workers
and
human
trafficking
survivors,
and
so
specifically,
like
many
others.
Today
we
urge
the
committee
to
adopt
the
amendments
proposed
by
maggie's
and
butterfly
that
positions
community
organizations
as
the
direct
contact
with
rural
workers
in
order
to
prioritize
the
well-being
and
human
rights
of
workers
by
law
enforcement
officers
and
city
staff
must
not
be
included
in
direct
outreach
to
workers,
patterns
of
harassment,
surveillance
and
excessive.
H
This
has
come
up
a
few
times
so
I'll
just
like
very
quickly,
speak
to
it,
but
I.
Don't
actually
think
that
it's
necessary
for
city
staff
to
witness
vulnerable
workers
in
their
workplaces
for
city
staff
to
gain
a
meaningful
understanding
of
the
issue.
Training
from
community
experts,
such
as
butterfly
in
Maggie's,
can
deliver
education
that
helps
develop
an
empathetic
understanding
of
the
issues
and
also
that
helps
people
to
understand
that
we
all
have
a
very
different
and
specific
role
to
play
in
combating
issues
such
as
these.
H
That
require
like
many
different
approaches
and
then,
in
this
case,
a
labor
approach.
This
is
a
lesson
that
I've
also
had
to
learn
myself
as
a
social
worker,
where
sometimes
other
roles
are
better
suited
for
direct
contact
with
communities
and
there
isn't
a
direct
relationship
between
witnessing
certain
volumes
of
marginalization
and
then
appropriate
forms
of
empathy
that
actually
result
in
really
effective
outcomes
that
align
with
a
person-centered
approach
for
sex
workers
and
people
in
vulnerable
situations.
H
The
direct
involvement,
sorry
as
a
social
worker
I,
also
understand
how
critically
important
it
is
to
employ
a
person-centered
approach
that
makes
services
both
voluntary
as
well
as
accessible.
This
is
an
evidence-based
approach
that
has
been
demonstrated
effective
across
sectors
of
Health
and
Social
Services
everywhere,
and
a
major
aspect
of
this
model
is
the
engagement
of
peer
workers
in
delivering
outreach
services,
so
organizations
again,
such
as
Maggie's
and
butterfly,
already
have
established
pair
programming
and
years
invested
in
building
trust
with
individuals
and
communities.
H
This
strategy
hopes
to
service
a
person-centered
approach
will
prioritize
the
voices
of
workers
in
all
decisions
and
initiatives
and
therefore
will
counter
the
stigma.
Discrimination
and
surveillance,
Curtin
Lee,
enacted
through
approaches
that
criminalize
workers,
and
if
we
begin
to
listen
to
communities
when
they
tell
us
that
they're
not
in
trafficking
situations,
then
we
can
move
toward
addressing
the
supports
people
actually
require
to
best
provide
for
themselves
and
their
families.
This
strategy,
if
done
well,
can
actually
also
move
the
City
of
Toronto
in
compliance
with
the
accessing
services
without
fear,
regardless
in
immigration.
Statuses.
Thank.
B
B
B
Okay,
fantastic,
no
worries.
Thank
you.
I
will
just
cross
his
name
up
well
this
here
and
the
next
speaker
that
I
have
is
Vichy
loop,
okay,
no
worries,
thank
you
very
much
and
it's
and
is
shallow.
Okay.
Thank
you
make
up
for
you
and
farewell.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
here
and
you'll
have
five
minutes.
Let
me
know
when
you're
ready,
okay
and
we'll
get
a
start
at
the
time,
though,
thank
you,
I'm.
B
I
Name
is
Anjali
and
I
am
a
PhD
candidate
in
the
Policy
Studies
program
at
Ryerson
University,
where
I'm
in
the
process
of
writing
a
dissertation
on
anti
trafficking
policy
and
programming
in
Ontario,
I'd
like
to
just
begin
by
saying
that
the
committee's
efforts
to
distinguish
sex
work
from
trafficking
will
not
go
unnoticed.
However,
it
is
clear
from
the
very
first
recommendation
that
there
continues
to
be
a
troubling
conceptualization
of
human
trafficking
as
synonymous
with
sexual
exploitation
and
worse
with
the
sex
trade
as
a
whole.
I
I'd
like
to
just
quickly
share
some
insights
from
my
research
in
relation
to
this
conflation
of
sex
working
trafficking.
I
recently
interviewed
over
20
organizations
that
are
funded
by
the
province
to
do
anti-trafficking
work
and
while
the
work
of
these
organizations
of
course,
benefits
many.
Their
approach
to
human
trafficking.
I
However,
in
the
process
of
relabeling
people
as
trafficking
victims,
they
often
inflate
the
reality
of
trafficking
in
Canada
and
thereby
the
need
for
criminal
intervention
which
happens
at
the
expense
of
sex
workers,
as
you've
heard
here
today.
So
let
me
just
provide
you
with
some
quotes
from
my
interviews
to
illustrate
my
point.
As
one
organisation
notes
quote,
we
don't
request
that
women
identifies
being
trafficked.
We
will
support
every
woman
with
the
premise
that
she
is
at
risk
of
being
trafficked.
I
If
she
hasn't
been
already
another
organization
explains
quote:
we
we
recognize
that
indigenous
women
are
at
high
risk
and
homeless.
Women
are
at
high
risk,
so
every
homeless,
indigenous
woman
who
comes
to
our
shelter,
we
perceive
her
as
being
a
risk
of
human
trafficking
or
of
sexual
exploitation.
These
women
aren't
being
brought
from
hotel
to
hotel,
but
they
are
being
sexually
exploited
from
couch
to
couch.
So
for
us,
that's
the
definition
that
fits
our
needs.
One
service
provider
even
suggests
quote:
any
young
girl
is
at
risk.
I
Nowadays,
any
woman
is
at
risk
because
we're
vulnerable
to
wanting
to
be
loved
and
cared
for.
So
to
be
clear,
my
research
shows
that
most
organizations
won't
deny
services
to
people
who
don't
self-identify
as
victims
of
trafficking,
but
will
often
label
them
as
such,
in
their
funding
reports
and
for
other
purposes,
such
as
in
educational
and
promotional
materials.
We
can
see
here
how
the
definition
of
victim
of
trafficking
is
socially
and
politically
constructed
and
reinforced
through
funding
priorities.
I
So
it
is
therefore
of
utmost
importance
of
the
city
support
organizations
like
butterfly
and
Maggie's,
who
prioritize
the
labor
and
human
rights
of
sex
workers,
migrant
workers
and
low
wage
and
precariously
employed
workers
in
their
outreach
and
other
frontline
initiatives.
This
would
go
a
long
way
towards
ensuring
that
all
people
who
experience
exploitation,
violence,
and/or
abuse,
not
only
those
who
fit
the
trafficking
image,
can
access
non-discriminatory
services,
as
well
as
towards
upholding
the
city's
commitment
to
distinguishing
sex
work
from
trafficking,
as
prescribed
by
its
anti-human
trafficking
alliance.
B
I
B
The
clerk's
have
made
copies
so
if
you've
got
one
you'd
like
to
hand
it
in
someone
will
come
and
get
it
from
you.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Our
next
speaker
is
Kamala
Kappa,
New,
York
University
hello
good
afternoon.
How
are
you
and
welcome?
You
have
five
minutes?
Yes,
they
you've
been
with
us
all
day.
So
thank
you
for
spending
some
time
with
us.
Thank.
I
So
I'm
not
going
to
read
that
for
you,
because
I
think
we've
heard
a
lot
of
important
information
throughout
the
day
and
some
common
themes
have
been
repeating.
But
I
should
also
say
what
I
do
is:
I
teach
a
course
at
New,
York
University
on
human
traffic,
about
human
trafficking.
I
also
teach
a
course
about
sexual
labor
and
sex
work,
but
quite
separately,
and
some
of
my
students
have
actually
been
observing
these
discussions
as
part
of
their
education
as
well,
but
I
think.
I
What's
it
really
been
important
coming
out
from
these
deputations
here,
some
important
points
about
the
distinction
that
is
made
in
the
staff
report
between
trafficking
and
the
sex
industry
on
sex
work,
and
this
is
something
that
I
reiterate
in
my
statement
as
well.
It's
important
that
we
recognize
the
difference
and
recognize
that
hyper
exploitation
and
violence
is
happening
in
a
number
of
workplaces
throughout
Ontario
and
in
Toronto,
and
that
we
should
not
be
focusing
exclusively
on
sex
industry
or
even
body
wrap
or
holistic
centers.
This
is
really
important.
I
The
second
issue,
I
think
that's
been
repeated
here
today
regularly-
is
that
if
the
city
is
developing
outreach,
that
must
be
in
consultation
with
the
organizations
that
are
on
the
ground.
The
community
organizations
butterfly
Maggie
is
the
worker,
Action,
Center
or
the
refugee
center
and
so
forth,
but
also
I
would
argue
that
we
should
also
be.
I
I
One
of
the
things
that
have
come
up
is
to
focus
on
the
causes
of
vulnerability
and
precarity.
I
think
those
are
really
important
issues
to
look
at,
particularly
the
laws
that
criminalize
sex
work,
to
look
at
the
laws
that
do
not
give
permanent
residents
to
migrants
coming
into
the
country
and
also
to
scrutinize
the
employers,
who
are
you
know,
using
highly
exploitative
practices
in
their
workplaces.
I
I
B
Fantastic,
ok,
great
well
done!
Thank
you
very
much.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
professor?
Okay,
I
have
one
for
you.
So
what
is
your
definition
of
human
trafficking
because
you
said
it's
vague,
it's
useless
and
so
on,
but
you
are
a
professor
and
you've
done
a
lot
of
work
and
your
years
in
this
area.
What's
your
definition,
I.
B
J
B
J
Thank
you,
I'm
Jayden,
pan
Laboral,
director
of
CCS
eto,
Chinese,
Canadian,
National,
Council,
Challenger,
chapter
CCN
CTO
is
an
organization
of
the
Chinese
Canadian
in
the
City
of
Toronto
that
promotes
equal
social
justice,
inclusive
civic
participation
and
respect
for
diversity.
We
care
about
human
rights
and
labor
rights,
especially
when
many
of
our
community
members,
who
are
migrant
workers
and
immigrants
experiencing
settlement
and
employment
challenges.
J
We
support
the
staff
report,
which
highlights
the
importance
of
differentiating
migrant
workers,
sex
workers
and
human
trafficking
victims
that
avoid
increasing
the
vulnerability
of
migrant
and
sex
workers
in
order
to
better
protect
human
rights
and
labor
rights
of
our
members.
We
are
asking
the
city
to
support
the
development
of
better
outreach
model
and
appropriate
the
pylos
ecology
in
consultation
with
community
members,
including
sex
workers,
migrant
workers
and
human
trafficking
survivors,
based
on
the
reasons
below.
J
First,
we
find
that
the
term
for
framing
of
the
recommendation,
which
suggests
human
trafficking
is
something
that
is
only
happening
in
sex
industry,
very
problematic
and
misleading.
We
know
trafficking
happens
in
many
sectors
in
society,
including
agriculture,
service
sectors,
manufacturing
and
others.
In
fact,
see
science
here
has
been
serving
workers
across
these
sectors
for
some
time.
J
The
best
resolution
is
enabling
workers
to
exercise
their
rights
by
ensuring
that
immigration
and
criminal
and
other
laws
do
not
inhibit
the
capacity
of
people
to
protect
their
rights.
We
believe
the
City
of
Toronto
should
take
the
position
rights,
not
rescue.
Second,
we
find
that
the
recommendations
and
report
do
not
adequately
reflect
the
distinction
between
consensual
sex
work
and
human
trafficking.
J
This
is
problematic
as
ethical
risk
criminalizing
and
further
marginalizing
people
who,
for
whatever
reason,
may
choose
to
participate
in
sex
work,
especially
on
migrant
workers,
sex
workers
and
sex
worker
rights
group
have
consistently
pointed
out
that
calculating
their
work
worth
trafficking
is
harmful
and
productive.
Third,
the
policy
sees
the
police
and
surveillance
as
key
to
upholding
protecting
trafficked.
We
know
that
many
people
who
are
trafficked
or
even
those
who
may
not
be
trafficked
may
be
reluctant
to
engage
in
with
the
police,
immigration
enforcement
agents,
city
officers
etc.
J
Therefore,
rather
than
moving
resources
to
world
policing,
we
need
to
provide
resources
to
support
the
organization
that
are
currently
working
with
the
community.
Since
the
ensatina
has
partnership
with
butterfly
and
pod
Elkin
West
Health
Center,
we
are
running
training
programs
for
our
our
teams
to
approach
the
marginalized
workers
in
grocery
stores,
nail
salons
and
Master
Polar's.
We
are
also
producing
outreach
materials
better
help.
Our
teams,
as
well
as
the
workers,
identify
their
needs
and
challenges,
including
the
issues
of
trafficking,
immigration,
work,
safety
and
labor
exploitation
for
the
migrant
6cc
NCT
a--
approach.
J
Some
of
them
might
not
speak
for
english.
They
might
worry
about
get
into
trouble
by
working
with
officers
due
to
their
relationship
with
employers
or
their
immigration
status.
These
workers
only
trust
organizations
like
us
to
access
help
instead
of
police
officers,
Royal
City
investigators,
even
many
organizations
already
build
a
relationship
with
the
workers.
We
will
be
able
to
better
support
and
provide
resources.
When
sharpening
happens,
the
City
of
Toronto
has
access
without
fear
policy.
It
is
quite
critical
that
all
policies
as
part
of
an
anti-trafficking
are
subject
to
this
policy.
J
If
people
fear
that
their
immigration
status
may
lead
to
reap
results,
we
further
marginalize
these
workers
and
subject
them
to
greater
danger
and
abuse
from
ill
intention
parties.
Given
those
reasons
we
believe,
ceased
city's
staff
and
the
community
partnership
work
together
to
better
protect
the
workers
and
make
sure
they
feel
safe
to
approach
service
when
they
need.
Thank
you.
B
D
D
D
D
I
met
a
disadvantage
because
I
wasn't
done
on
CD
our
last
term,
but
I
was
sitting
in
the
police
port,
and
here
he
comes
now
to
the
whole.
The
whole
strategy
that
was
forwarded
on
to
the
police
board
please
board,
to
deal
with
the
issue
that
we
heard
in
the
scenario
earlier
that
there
are
times
when,
when
really
supporting
survivors
aiding
someone
having
any
protocol.
A
B
A
D
Okay,
so
that's
that's
still
where
it's
at
now.
The
report
that's
before
us
today,
I
asked
the
the
author's
earlier.
If
they
were
aware,
you're
not
aware
of
the
we
had
it,
we
had
another
outreach
work
done
on
on
human
trafficking.
That
did
have
four.
You
know
that's
the
term
that
was
being
used
with
respect
in
which
which
there
was
a
bit
of
an
overlap.
There
was
an
integration
where
the
police
took
part
in
the
discussions
that
went
on
and
it
was
in
conjunction
with
people
from
Montreal.
Scott's
last
name
escapes
me
I'm.
A
D
Mckean,
yes
and
I
watched
watch
that
the
police
officers
who
were
present
on
that
field
trip
be
impacted,
but
it
sounds
like
if
I
listen
to
the
narrative
and
I
hear
all
the
deputies
it
doesn't
sound
like
any
of
that
is
showing
up
in
training.
So
we
we
there's
possibly
there's
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
in
that
regard,
but
it
would
be
better
job
by
making
direct
requests
to
the
police
port,
understood.
A
D
B
A
A
B
A
B
Thank
you
any
further
questions.
Okay,
seeing
none!
Thank
you
where
I
know
we're
we're
just
finalizing
the
motion
that
counselor
Carol
is
going
to
move.
So
are
you
in
concert
with
the
clerk
fantastic,
fair
enough,
so
can
I
then
ask
you
to
speak
and
then
she'll
put
the
motion
up
while
she's
completed
and
then
she'll
get
it
on
the
screen.
It's
about
out
of
order
normally
put
the
motion
first,
but
just
in
the
interest
of
time.
Thank
you.
D
B
D
Actually
is
an
amendment
that
comes
out
of
the
community
reaching
out
before
the
meeting
to
say
here's
here's
ordered
be
happy
and
it's
I
want
to
want
to
really
be
clear
to
people
I'm
not
trying
to
assert
the
police
back
into
this
report.
I'm
asking
my
questions
because
there
is
other
important
work
that
it
doesn't
appear
is
going
on.
We
can
get
as
good
as
we
like
here.
If
what
we
heard
in
that
scenario
was
still
happening
on
the
police
side,
we
got
a
problem.
D
During
that
day,
they
spoke
to
a
survivor
who,
if
I,
can
say
it
the
the
first
person
they
spoke
to
actually
might
have
fit
their
preconceived
notion.
Then
they
spoke
to
a
migrant
who
is
now
a
sex
worker
and
lastly,
they
spoke
to
a.
They
spoke
to
a
young
woman
who
looks
just
like
me
when
I
was
20
who
had
been
trafficked
and
between
the
three.
They
finally
realized
it's
a
little
more
complex
than
they
thought,
and
it
isn't
just
about
holistic
centers.
D
In
fact,
it's
it's
a
whole
different
thing
and
that
they,
by
the
end
of
it,
they
weren't
sure
they
really
understood
sex
work,
let
alone
understanding
a
forced
sex
work
and
that
they
needed
to
work
on
it.
That
was
just
one
day
and
really
just
two
officers.
That's
that's
the
work.
They
were
then
doing
in
Montreal
to
break
that
down
I'm,
just
not
sure
we're
doing
that,
and
so
we
can.
D
We
can
enact
this
and,
according
to
the
amendment,
we
can
do
it
much
more
with
the
community
than
without,
but
they'll
still
be
this
other
thing
going
on
in
another
in
another
realm,
and
and
that's
why
I
was
asking
those
questions
this
morning,
not
to
move
it
over
into
this
report.
If
that's
the
discussion
that
folks
had
and
took
away
from
their
lunch
break,
that's
not
where
I
was
going
where
I
was
really
going
method
to
my
madness,
I'm,
hoping
that
that
my
colleague
will
ask.
D
D
The
amendment
you
see
before
you
really
reflects
what
we've
been
hearing
in
all
the
deputations
this
morning
that,
in
the
outreach
model,
the
the
stakeholders
really
need
to
be
described.
It
says
community
stakeholders,
but
they
really
feel,
like
they've,
been
through
these
sorts
of
approaches
before
enough,
that
they
really
needed
to
see
the
roles
described,
to
be
sure
that
we
really
were
going
to
incorporate
them
in
developing
developing
the
outreach
model.
D
Just
saying
you
can
come
along
for
the
ride,
but
here's
our
model
they
want
to
help,
develop
it
and
so
they're
described
now
and
this
the
sentence
that
is
struck
in
recommendation
number
one
as
you
can
tell
from
the
deputations,
was
what
was
giving
people
angst
that
really
our
only
course
of
action
that
we
were
that
we
might
look
at
was
we're
gonna
march
into
a
workplace.
You
teach
us
how
to
do
it
more
nicely,
but
we're
marching
into
workplaces
and
and
as
we
heard
again
and
again,
there
are
many
ways
to
approach
this.
D
That
actually
will
lead
to
those
who
need
to
disclose
disclosing
and
those
who
have
work
to
do
continue
to
do
their
work
and
that
they
wanted
to
be
really
clear
that
we
use
the
words
the
access
without
fear
policy,
because
it
is
the
city's
policy
and
it's
not
always
clear
that
it
it.
It
actually
is
respect
to
them,
played
out
at
every
portal,
and
so
we
got
to
use
the
name
of
the
policy
each
time
and
so
I
support
the
amendments.
Cal
sarong
Tam
could
not
come
back
after
lunch,
but
was
she
here?
D
She
was
going
to
speak
to
to
these
amendments
as
well,
because
she
spent
a
long
time
mat
working
with
some
of
the
agencies
to
get
to
go
through
many
iterations
to
get
to
one.
That
really
would
be
a
partnership
with
staff
and
so
I'm,
hoping
that
that
the
committee
can
support
it
so
that
it
has
a
smooth
ride
through
Council.
You.
B
K
I'd
like
to
begin
by
thanking
staff
or
for
this
nice
report,
because,
like
it's,
a
learning
curve
for
me
to
being
new
one
on
this
committee
as
well
and
I've,
heard
that
and
then
also
I,
think
all
the
deputies
and
you
care
enough
to
come
here
to
to
actually
to
put
in
your
your
thoughts
into
the
whole
motion
and
it's
very
important
that
we
work
together
with
these
stakeholders,
community
stakeholders
and
I
I'm
very
happy
that
we
don't
actually
paint
the
whole
thing
with
the
same
brush.
I
think
is
a
different.
K
It's
very
important
that
I
actually
have
is
a
learning
curve
for
myself,
too
I
mean
I.
I
am
learning
all
these
things.
Actually,
a
friend
of
mine
called
me:
they
own
a
franchise
chain
on
holistic
body
repairs
and
they
really
freaking
out
and
asking
me
yeah,
there's
something
coming
on
Council
that
they're
gonna
they
are.
K
Most
of
my
Asians
and
I've
seen
a
bunch
of
Asians
here,
deputy
Dakotans,
and
they
really
do
a
good
job
and
I
applaud
for
their
for
their
passion
and
for
the
help,
and
perhaps
maybe
I
heard
that
90%
of
my
Asian
and
some
of
them
are
East
European.
Maybe
perhaps,
if
you
can
expand
the
languages,
I
think
I
would
I
think
that
will
be
we'll
be
able
to
serve
more
more
groups
and
more
people.
K
B
You
very
much
counselor.
Are
there
any
further
speakers?
Okay,
seeing
none?
Let
me
just
take
a
moment
to
thank
all
the
people
who
have
come
in
to
speak
to
us
all.
Today.
It's
it's
as
it's
been
stated
part
of
it.
It's
a
learning
curve
for
many
of
us.
We
don't
consider
ourselves
expert
in
this
particular
area.
B
In
fact,
we're
not
experts
in
many
areas,
quite
frankly,
but
we
work
hard
at
collaborating
and
and
doing
the
best
we
can
as
I
see
this
I
mean
I,
see
this
as
the
community
and
all
the
different
groups
are
involved
in
this
area,
providing
voice
to
the
voiceless
and
in
many
instances
these
are
people
who
are
trying
to
survive
and
oftentimes.
We
complicate
it
much
more
problematic
than
it
actually
was
before
we
got
engaged
and
I.
B
Think
that's
what
I'm
hearing
from
you
don't
make
it
worse
than
it
is,
in
fact
here
are
some
of
the
things
to
ensure
that
you
don't
make
it
worse
than
it
is,
and
so
we're
listening.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
The
staff
are
here
and
the
motion
that's
been
put
forward
by
councilor
careless
to
ensure
that
they
continued
collaboration
is
enhance
based
on
what
our
goals
and
requirements
are
here.
B
But
I
just
simply
say:
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
don't
feel
in
trampled
harass,
intimidated,
fearful
and
are
assaulted
or
violated
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
so
on,
but
we
want
to
ensure
that
there
is
an
avenue
where
people
feel
that
they
are
being
empowered
to
protect
their
interests
and
particular
families.
I
heard
from
some
of
the
comments
here,
people
in
many
cases
are
just
trying
to
survive,
trying
to
protect
their
families
and
so
on.
B
So
it's
not
lost
on
me
and
I
think
it's
lost
on
any
of
my
colleagues
or
the
staff
that
are
here
so
I
wanted
to
say
that
final
piece,
just
of
the
definition,
professor,
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
sort
of
tailoring
it
narrowing
it
down
to
be
more
focused
right,
I
mean
that's
more
stuff
like
terms
of
looking
at,
because
we
have
a
broad
definition
and
you're
saying:
hey.
Look
that
doesn't
work
for
me.
B
We
need
to
kind
of
narrow
it
down
and
then
and
I-
don't
disagree
with
you,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ensure
that,
as
we
ask
the
staff
a
question
some
of
what
you
indicated
that
migration
and
the
labor
piece
are
incorporated
in
there,
but
I
think
your
point
was
based
on
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
These
are
the
two
specific
areas
that
we
really
need
to
kind
of
get
our
hands
around
so
that
we
can
address
the
fundamental
challenges
that
are
impacting
these
very
people
and,
as
I
understand
most
or
women
right.
B
Not
all
maybe,
but
most
are
right,
and
so
it's
even
much
more
important
for
us
to
make
sure
we
get
out
there
because
of
just
the
imbalance
that
exists
with
respect
to
the
relationship,
perhaps
just
some
of
the
things
that
are
happening
in
the
area.
So
I.
Thank
you
again
for
being
here
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
matter,
coming
forward
with
your
continued
input
and
that
the
pilot
or
staff
will
be
obviously
able
to
learn
from
this,
and
so
we
can
put
in
place.
Those
policy
will
help
them
guide
us
and
shape
us.
B
So
again,
my
final
thank-yous
for
all
the
staff
members
who
are
involved
with
respect
to
this
particular
process.
So
members
we
have
the
amendment
to
the
item,
and
so,
if
we
can
vote
on
that
and
they
will
vote
on
the
item
as
amended,
so
we
have
the
item.
It's
moved
by
Councillor
Carol.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried
item
as
amended
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Thank
you.
The
matter
is
dealt
with.
Thank
you.
We're
now
moving
on
members.
B
We're
now
moving
on
to
EC
5.5,
EC,
5.5
I
had
held
that
item
simply
to
ask
some
questions
and
so
yeah
so
I
had
held
that
on
him,
because
I
was
I,
guess
when
I
looked
at
it,
so
they
were
through
to
staff.
There
were
a
number
of
amendments
that
had
already
been
made.
Is
that
my
reading
of
it
there
was
a
total
of
three
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand
six
hundred
and
ninety
six
dollars
and
forty
cents
net
of
all
taxes.
B
B
And
then
you're
coming
back
now
for
an
additional
sum
of
1
million,
ninety
nine
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
six,
a
net
of
that's
1
million
one
hundred
and
nineteen
thirty,
so
I'm
just
wondering
so
at
the
outset.
Why
was
this
total
not
and
corporate?
Because
then,
is
it
then
a
total
sum?
Is
it
1.4
million
that
you're
asking
for
them
in
terms
of
the
overage?
Yes,.
A
B
A
When
the
RFP
was
put
together
in
2015-2016,
okay,
based
on
the
volumes
of
the
day,
so
this
is
another
example
of
the
pressures
in
terms
of
growth
that
we've
experienced
so
back
in
those
days,
the
the
vehicles
are
an
important
component
of
our
business
and
they're
highly
regulated
by
the
ambulance
act.
So
there's
preventative
maintenance
schedules
that
the
vehicles
must
meet,
and
a
good
example
is
that
every
thirty
days
a
vehicle
is
have
to
go
through
a
preventative
maintenance
piece.
A
So
back
when
this
contract
was
put
together,
we
were
seeing
about
250
pm's
year
now
we're
over
633
to
get
through
the
lifespan
of
these
vehicles.
All
is
not
bad,
but
in
terms
of
what
we've
also
done
to
try
to
get
through
this
processes
is
deputy.
Chief
Handel
Smith
has
done
some
process
improvement
in
the
in
the
fleet
in
the
logistics
area,
and
it's
actually
repositioned
positions
to
improve
the
flow
through
the
garage.
But
this
is
necessary
for
the
overspill.
A
B
That's
how
very
helpful
that's
what
I
needed
that
clarification?
Didn't
wasn't
that
clear
to
me.
So
those
are
all
my
questions.
Anyone
else
have
a
question:
ok,
good
I!
Don't
need
to
speak
to
it.
I
think
that
the
clarification
is
very
helpful,
so
I
can
move
the
item.
Ici
5.5,
amend
mental
contracts,
47
0
to
0
4,
to
8,
for
the
provision
of
overflow
or
prevent
preventive
maintenance
and
repair
for
our
various
classes
of
vehicles.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Thank
you.
Ok
members.
We
are
new.
B
L
L
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
chair
members
of
committee
councilor,
the
Carroll
asked
for
a
bit
of
a
deep
dive
on
the
leading
indicators
and
dashboard
that
we
give.
So
we
thought
we
would
do
that.
So
we
have
the
context
that
was
set
this
morning,
which
shows
sort
of
the
big
picture
and
the
sort
of
pressures
that
we
fall
within.
She
talked
about
a
couple
of
things
or
many
things
that
we
in
the
city
have
absolutely
zero
ability
to
influence,
control
or
shape.
So
we
can.
L
L
So
what
I
thought
that,
in
terms
of
a
deep
dive,
is
to
go
through,
and
the
theme
really
is-
we've
been
on
a
growth
economy,
all
of
North
America
are
much
of
North
America,
especially
in
the
US,
is
being
on
a
growth
economy.
For
about
three
or
four
years.
We
predate
that
the
beginning
of
ours
predated
it,
and
so
those
of
us
that
are
all
enough
to
have
seen,
cycles,
fold
and
unfold
all
know
that
this
doesn't
continue
forever,
that
there
will
be
swings
and
ups
and
downs.
L
Part
of
what
I'm
trying
to
say
today
is
that
we're
about.
Is
you
know
good
at
places
you
could
be
heading
into
that
kind
of
world,
and
so
there
are
negatives
to
being
in
a
growth
economy
and
I'll
raise
those
as
we
go
through,
but
the
fundamentals
when
you
take
a
look
at
historical
precedent,
seem
pretty
strong.
L
So,
first
of
all,
what
are
the
the
economic
think,
tanks
saying
about
our
future
and
the
lines
all
to
the
right
of
that
vertical
faint
line
or
what
the
future
they're
saying
will
be,
and
it's
saying
basically
around
two
%.
It's
a
little
bit
ahead
of
the
Canadian
average
that
was
talked
about
this
morning,
so
we're
gonna
do
a
little
bit
better
than
the
national
average.
According
to
the
consensus
forecasts,
as
you
can
see
from
the
history,
everything
goes
up
and
down,
and
the
economists
think
it's
all
going
to
be
flatline.
L
L
The
mayor
says
this:
we
say
this
all
the
time
about
how
how
important
Canada
remains
within
the
economic
Condor.
Sari
trawl
remains
in
the
economic
context
of
Canada,
where
the
bottom
left
red
square
rectangle
we're
a
little
bit
bigger
than
a
905
economic
output,
wise
they're,
a
little
bit
bigger
than
we
are
in
population.
But
by
and
large
we're
in
sort
of
a
close
to
a
balance.
L
Then
the
rest
of
the
province
is
about
the
same
size
as
we
are
collectively
with
905,
and
you
could
see
the
rest
of
the
relationships
we
are
in
that
got
an
important
economic
engine.
We
do
impact
the
average
statistics
for
Canada,
but
we
also
benefit
from
the
rest
of
Canada,
and
so
it's
to
our
advantage
to
have
the
whole
country
going
well.
That
will
make
Toronto
go
well
and.
L
So
far,
so
good
on
that
this
is
a
new
piece
of
data,
it's
not
in
our
indicator,
but
it's
a
fascinating
index.
The
this
is
where
lo
is
good
and
as
you'll
see
where
the
lowest.
Here
we
have
the
lowest
economic
risk
according
to
the
Lloyds,
who
know
a
lot
about
risk
from
the
point
of
view
of
the
structure
of
our
economy,
the
trends
etc.
L
L
One
of
the
things
that's
happening
in
this
is
a
chart
of
population
ins-and-outs.
So
above
the
line
are
all
the
added
to
adds
to
the
to
the
population
base,
and
you
can
see
that
it's
almost
always
international
immigration
for
the
City
of
Toronto
and
the
red
is
the
deletions
and
and
but
are
below
the
lines.
L
So,
for
a
long
time
we
were
losing
people
to
the
rest
of
the
province
or
to
other
province
to
the
rest
of
the
province
905,
namely,
if
you
had
this
chart
for
905,
it's
showing
the
same
thing,
905
is
losing
to
the
rest
of
the
province,
so
people
in
search
of
better
quality
prices
are
moving
further
eV.
If
you
take
a
look
at
the
far
right
and
column,
immigration
is
really
starting
to
add
to
Toronto,
and
so
that
line
that's
sort
of
taking
off.
L
On
the
right
hand,
side
is
a
net
increase,
so
our
net
increase
is
now
getting
very
significant
and
almost
totally
due
to
international
immigration,
but
also
some
in
a
provincial
migration,
which
is
that
delightful
lime,
green
means
coming
here.
So
for
a
long
time
you
see
the
left-hand
side
we're
leaking
on
that
one.
A
little
bit
now
we're
we're
growing
on
that
one
people
follow
Jah,
sorry,
jobs
follow
people
that
people
are
coming
here.
L
Jobs
are
coming
here
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
this
is
plantings,
place
a
work
survey,
so
they
go
to
places
to
work.
This
is
not
the
labor
force
which
is
place
of
residence,
and
this
growth
is
being
basically
sustained
for
the
last
25
years,
with
a
little
hiccup
around
the
dot-com
boom
notice,
the
minor
hiccup
around
the
eight
nine
credit
crisis
that
was
a
strength
of
Toronto.
We
was
shortened
short
and
unfortunate
for
those
that
got
negatively
impacted,
but
very
short,
and
now
the
growth
is
being
very,
very,
very
strong.
L
L
You
have
to
go
back
to
the
80s
to
get
unemployment
rates
in
these
kind
of
numbers,
and
ten
years
ago
we
were
talking
about
the
gap
between
the
dotted
line
and
the
three
solid
lines
that
we
are
on.
Unemployment
rate
was
quite
a
bit
out
of
sync
with
the
with
everybody
else's,
and
one
of
our
goals
was
to
bring
it
tighter,
so
the
jobs
chart
I
showed
before
was
part
of
the
reason
and
councillor
Carroll
highlighted
the
other
reason.
That
is,
that
our
participation
rates
continue
to
to
edged
downwards.
L
L
People
between
the
ages
of
55
and
64,
for
which
is
right
in
the
middle
of
the
baby
boom
now
I,
have
a
much
lower
participation
rate
than
those
in
the
age
brackets
35
to
44,
44
45
to
54,
and
the
other
thing
would
be
a
large
number
of
immigrants
who
don't
feel
they're
ready
for
the
labour
force.
Yet
so
are
not
yet
looking
for
work,
which
is
the
definition
of
whether
you're
in
the
labor
force
or
not
housing
growth,
and
we
talk
about
the
relative
strengths
within
ourselves
of
9:05.
L
L
We've
always
been
a
little
bit
more
on
industrial
and
commercial
buildings,
still
a
lot
going
on
in
905
as
you
can
see,
but
we're
still
a
higher
higher
ratio
and
they
seem
to
go
up
and
down
in
tandem.
So
we
continue
to
share
pretty
equally
the
economic
growth
in
both
905
and
the
401
six.
The
big
difference
is
that
for
401
6,
it's
almost
all
concentrated
in
a
downtown
core
when
it
comes
to
office,
commercial,
we're
starting
to
see
signs
that
that
is
spreading
around
the
city
a
little
bit
so
now.
L
What's
most
amazing,
is
this,
in
my
view,
is
a
the
length
of
you
know.
This
has
been
going
on
for
quite
a
while.
Now
is
the
vacancy
rate
they
both
for
commercial
and
for
industrial,
which
is
I,
mean
to
have
vacancy
rates
in
the
low
ones,
and
two
percents
basically
means
that
you're
in
a
two
tightest
situation
and
prices
are
going
to
go
up
too
quickly,
which
is
why
we're
now
seeing
one
of
the
negatives
of
our
growth,
which
is
the
unaffordability
for
anybody?
L
That's
that's
price
inelastic,
so
entrepreneurs,
culture,
etc
of
smaller
retails
retailers
who
are
all
having
trouble.
It
also
shows
that
any
attempt
to
convert
industrial
to
residential
right
now
there
is
no
need
to
do
that.
We
are
running
out
of
industrial
land
and
we
are
at
a
rate
that
we
hope
that
we
start
building
vertical
factories
pretty
soon
because
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
it
in
the
old-school
way.
L
L
L
So
that
big
red
addition
to
the
supply
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
GM
in
Oshawa
coming
online
as
a
potential
place
to
lease,
so
15
million
square
feet.
Well,
a
lot
aside
from
that
is
very
tiny.
Tiny
add
to
the
dishes.
Okay-
and
here
are
some
of
the
towers
that
are
under
construction,
the
CIB
square,
one
which
is
on
both
sides
of
the
tracks
opposite
Scotiabank
arena,
16
York
right
right
at
Brown,
there
LCBO
tower,
which
is
a
huge
hole
just
south
of
the
tracks.
L
160
Front
Street
West,
is
a
little
bit
further.
Well,
that's
a
little
bit
further
from
being
construction
and
the
well
is
that
a
huge
hole
on
the
north
side
of
Front
Street
for
past
Bathurst.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
jobs
coming
continuing
to
come
to
downtown
draw.
So,
from
my
perspective,
I
see
no
immediate
threat
other
than
the
fact
that
history
tells
me
things
move
in
cycles.
L
So
at
some
stage
this
will
slow
down,
but
our
business
fundamentals
are
mixture
of
sectors
that
were
involved
in
our
continuing
attraction
to
immigrants
because
of
our
tolerant
lifestyle.
Our
momentum
in
our
cultural
world
are
foraging
for
universities
and
for
colleges
continue
to
attract
international
students.
I
used
to
stay
here.
We
continue
to
attract
students
from
rest
of
Canada
and
on
province
who
choose
to
stay
here
because
of
the
opportunity
and
the
lifestyles
and
the
threat
of
lifestyle
opportunities
everybody
has
so.
L
B
B
For
your
presentation,
memories
over
there
questions
for
mr.
Williams
I,
see
heads
nodding
just
before
I
take
questions
for
mr.
Williams
I
would
like
to
introduce
the
Commissioner
of
prisons
for
the
country
of
Grenada
mr.
John
Mitchell
who's
here
with
us.
Mr.
Mitchell,
would
you
be
pleased
to
stand
to
be
acknowledged
and
he's
accompanied
by
mrs.
Cyrus.
L
B
D
Well,
I
guess
I'll
start
at
the
I'm
gonna
start
at
the
end
of
my
questions,
cuz.
We
were
just
on
that
slide,
so
so
we're
seeing
lots
of
building
facilities
and
and
jobs
coming
into
the
downtown
core,
but
with
rates
that
low
it
means
we
can
have
some
optimism
for
for
outside
the
downtown
core
employment
zones
and.
L
G
L
D
So
the
question
is
I,
don't
know
how
familiar
you'd
be
with
it.
We're
gonna
talk
about
it
in
some
of
our
communities
tonight,
but
bill
108
made
all
of
our
heart
skip
a
beat
one
of
the
reasons
being
it
says
that
you
know
our
ability
to
protect
our
employment
zones.
We
now
hear
only
provincially
significant
employment
zones.
Conversions
might
happen
elsewhere.
Have
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
what
is
a
provincially
significant
employment
zone?
Is
it
aligned
with
the
trends
that
we
want
to
continue
to
follow.
D
L
D
D
That
the
issue
of
participation
rate
versus
employment
rate,
if
we,
if
we
made
some
sort
of
adjustment,
if
we
looked
at
the
fact
that
participation
is
is,
is
dropping,
is
that
why
well
we
see
we
see
a
pretty
good
number.
Therefore,
unemployment
rate
we
still
hear
of
young
people
suffering
with
precarious
employment,
fretting
about
unpinch,
end
work
that
may
not
be
there
a
year
from
now
which
it
doesn't
always
show,
but
but
we
still
have
to
have
a
robust
employment
strategy.
Even
though
we
see
that
needle
going
down
very.
D
L
C
L
Under
undermines
the
issues
that
we
are
facing
with
regard
to
precarious
work
so
and
and
the
blooming
skill
shortages,
so
lots
of
people
are
worried
right
now
that
we
don't
have
enough
labor
skills
and
labor
available
for
industrial,
commercial
and
affiliate
structure.
Construction
right-
and
you
know
we-
we
have
a
lot
of
that
coming
and
that'll
be
for
a
long
time
and
no
matter
what
the
economy
is
doing,
we're
going
to
be
building
those
subways
or
building
those
LRT
s
or
building
regional
rail.
So
we're
gonna
need
people
to
do
that.
Yeah.
D
L
D
Because
because
building
things
is
an
incredibly
good
living,
we
just
have
to
convince
the
parents
of
the
people
who
could
be
doing
that
job.
It's
a
great
living
I
only
have
one
other
question.
Mr.
vice
chair
and
that's
around
the
haven't
got
the
slide
in
the
actual
dashboard,
but
it
is
in
your
presentation,
which
is
the
retail
page
in
the
actual
dashboard.
There
are
some
real
spiky
scary
stories
in
there
is.
D
Do
we
need
to
have
some
sort
of
strategy
in
that?
That's
where
we
go
looking
for
people
who
may
have
stumbled
into
that
work
at
a
time
when
that
was
the
only
working.
In
fact,
they
could
be
those
people
that
could
move
into
the
skilled
trades.
Do
we
have
some
sort
of
Outreach
Center,
as
as
retail
changes
radically
with
online
that
they
that
they
know
there's
a
path
that
could
send
them
off
to
an
apprenticeship
to
skilled
trades?
So.
L
There's
two
two
aspects
to
my
answer:
the
first
is
the
future
of
retail
is
a
very
important
issue
for
us
and
we
have
a
study
underway
right
now.
Oh
take
a
look
at
that.
It
will
come
here.
Some
will
come
here
by
the
end
of
the
year,
mainly
because
we're
trying
to
understand
what
the
impact
will
be
on
Main
Street.
Yes,
so
we've
seen
there's
already
almost
five
hundred
thousand
square
feet
of
space
in
the
Eden
Center
and
if
I
can
include
Simpsons
as
provide
my
my
Simpsons.
L
Yes
save
myself,
the
Hudson's
Bay
Company,
now
I've
been
taken
out
and
converted
to
office
commercial
so
and
we
see
that
in
shopping
centers
and
starting
to
see
it
in
bits
and
pieces
in
the
Main
Street.
So
we
need
to
understand
that,
because
so
much
of
the
vibrancy
of
our
neighborhoods
are
directly
attributed
to
the
Main
Street
retail
and
service
businesses.
Okay,.
K
G
K
L
It
it
it
could
speed
up
conversion
because
it
opens
a
window.
A
little
headed
a
little
bit
of
a
head
only
about
two
years
ahead
of
the
conversion
pressure
that
will
come
in
the
next
round
of
municipal
comprehensive
reviews.
So
it
is
freed
up.
If
you
will,
if
your
that's,
the
language
of
developer
would
use
that
for
potentials
changes,
but
the
council
still
got
to
agree
to
it.
So
it's
not
it's
not
something.
That's
completely
out
of
the
city's
control
just
creates
more
pressure
and
more
work,
so.
K
L
L
L
A
A
A
L
Safe
to
call
that's
what
was
good
so
so
the
the
reason
for
that
is
multifold,
but
a
couple
of
key
things:
almost
we're
the
most
diversified
economy,
urban
economy
in
North,
America,
only
maybe
Boston,
and
maybe
Chicago-
have
as
many
different
industries
that
are
they
rely
on.
So
we
are
not
a
one-trick
pony
we
and
that's
why
we
went
through
the
dot-com
bust
easily.
That's
why
we
got
through
the
financial
curtailment
easily
is
because
we
had
many
other
sectors
working
as
well.
L
We
are
not,
and
despite
all
of
the
weather
issues
and
current
issues
on
center
island,
we're
not
in
the
worst
areas
for
global
warming,
now
we're
in
one
of
the
better
areas
for
global
warming,
again
touchwood
on
that
one,
because
we
have
lots
of
immigration
coming
in.
We
have
lots
of
construction
going
on.
So
for
all
of
those
reasons,
we
have
a
solid
financial
system.
We
have
a
solid
financial
backing
in
the
city,
we're
Wordsworth's
we're
we're
less
exposed
to
most
of
the
normal
winds
that
you
can
get
in
an
economy,
maybe's.
B
D
Yes,
I
I
asked
the
earlier
questions,
because
I
I
think
we've
we've
reached
the
point
where
the
downtown
core
looks
like
it
looks.
It
looks
kind
of
like
there
Richard
Florida
prediction
that
if,
if
the
jobs
actually
follow
the
people,
the
people
want
to
live
downtown,
we
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
that.
D
Mr.
chair,
the
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
stress
is
the
thing
that
I
was
asking
was
Desjardin
about
this
morning,
which
is
the
piece
about
not
being
lulled
into
a
false
sense
of
security,
about
our
unemployment
rate.
If
huge
work
to
do
and
and
it
doesn't
really
go
away
when
we
when
we
have
what
looks
like
great
numbers,
because
we
have
a
lot
going
on
and
we
have
really
strong
immigration,
we
go
good
on
us
if
we're
just
looking
at
the
graph.
D
But
what
we
know
is
that
so
much
of
that
segment
of
the
population
and
the
Millennial
segment
of
the
population
are
doing
all
of
that
work
on
contract,
whether
it's
a
three-month
contract
to
try
and
prove
yourself
and
get
a
CV
going
or
it's
the
the
marching
through
the
tech
sector,
doing
one
in
two-year
contracts,
one
after
the
other.
After
the
other.
D
K
K
You
know
people
from
Silicon
Valley.
They
are
very,
very
eager
to
move
back
to
Toronto
and
I'm,
just
wondering
whether
you
know
we
can
actually
work
on
something
to
attract
those
people
to
come
back
to
to
Toronto
and
I.
Think
it
would
be
a
good
thing
for
them
to
afford
for
Toronto
as
well
and
because
we're
losing
a
lot
of
Canadians
actually
and
now
that
we
actually
ranked
number
one
City
for
the
last
two
years
for
the
best
quality
of
life
and
I.
Think
would
be
nice
that
we
can
attract
them
back
to
to
Toronto.
K
It
would
be
nice
thing
and
the
other
theatre
piece
I
wanted
to
a
mention
is
about
economic
development.
Is
that
I
see
that
the
our
Scarborough
Civic
Center
has
been
so
underused
and
I
I
think
we
should
actually
do
something
to
make
sure
that
we
have.
We
will
revive
that
area
there
and,
and
you
know,
to
be
a
good
employment
zone,
and
we
will,
you
know,
will
try
to
attract
people
so
that
we
can
bring
economic
development
not
only
just
to
the
downtown
Toronto
I
think
we,
you
know
we
are
too
congested
now
downtown.
K
B
B
We
have
a
plan
where
focus
we're
working
hard
councillor.
Let
me
just
take
the
last
point
that
you
made
with
respect
to
the
city
center
area.
There
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
actually
being
done
now
with
respect
to
the
Civic
Center
area
we
have.
The
Scarborough
town
has
just
come
forward
with
like
a
50-year
plan
and
in
that
50-year
plan,
most
of
the
concentration
is
going
to
be
within
that
first,
five
to
ten
years,
we've
gone
through
a
tremendous
review.
B
B
But
we
what's
really
important
is
that
we've
had
the
land
owners
who've
come
forward
and
with
plans
for
in
excess
of
five
billion
dollars
worth
of
investment
to
be
made
in
that
area
that
you
speak
of
so
you're,
absolutely
right,
there's
more
condo
development
and
more
development
in
general.
That's
taking
place,
we
have
a
new
block
of
condos,
that's
going
to
be
developed
right
on
the
corner,
vermilion
Ellesmere
on
the
west
side,
we're
actually
in
the
process
of
finalizing
the
approvals
I
just
met
with
them.
B
Last
week
we
are
generating
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
of
section
37
funding
large
amounts
that
was
going
to
be
invested
in
the
community.
So
we
are
doing
those
things,
I'm
really
happy
with
the
report.
The
other
issue
in
it
and
I
know
that
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
downtown
core.
What's
going
to
assist
us
and
revitalize
our
community
is
the
expanded
nature
of
the
transit
system?
That's
whether
or
not
it's
a
three
stop
or
one
stop
going
to
Scarborough.
B
It's
240
acres
of
land
in
that
area,
so
amassing
that
multi
type
of
so
you
know
mixed-use
in
that
area,
the
jobs
are
coming.
They're
the
recreational
facilities
are
coming,
the
parks
are
coming,
the
houses
are
coming,
the
retail
are
coming,
so
it
will
be
that
we
were
focusing
on
the
suburban
area
and
I
would
say,
obviously
for
the
west
and
similar
activities
is
going
to
take
place.
But
as
it
relates
to
the
presentation
about
our
thriving
economy,
the
economy
doesn't
thrive.
B
Unless
you
prepare
and
plan
for
it
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
the
benefits
of
immigration
to
us.
We
are
open
to
immigration
and
the
right
kind
of
immigration
in
terms
of
people
coming
in.
To
be
able
to
make
contribution
to
our
society,
we're
not
building
walls
are
closing
off
our
access
to
our
borders
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
like
others
are
doing,
because
we
know
the
value
and
with
the
strength
of
immigration,
52
percent
of
our
population
of
2.8
million
people
were
not
born
in
Canada.
B
They
come
from
varying
parts
of
the
world,
and
so
on
and
I've
just
deal
with
your
sons
for
a
moment
councillor
your
son,
these
one
sons
coming
in
for
to
sit
down
with
Mike
and
I.
We
just
have
to
finalize
done
because
they
are,
if
you
will
that
next
generation,
who
were
from
immigrant
parents
what
they
have
done
in
terms
of
expanding
and
creating
greater
reach,
to
create
more
prosperity
and
more
opportunities,
and
so
on
in
our
community.
The
benefits
we
also
have.
What
is
a
welcome?
B
They,
you
know
it's
a
homecoming
program
that
is
designed
to
actually
reach
out
around
the
world,
to
Canadians
to
actually
remind
them
that
they're
great
things
happening
here.
I
know
that
I've
been
to
a
number
of
their
Sunday
morning,
processable
in
the
summer
time
we
have
them.
The
mayor
has
been
I,
think
Mike
you've
been
to
some
of
those
as
well
right,
and
so
we
actually
have
those
programs
design.
We
are
reaching
out
globally
to
Canadians
to
say,
look
at
home,
there's
so
much.
B
The
quality
of
life
is
so
amazing
and
people
want
to
come
back
there.
We
have
folks
from
Silicon
Valley,
who
want
to
come
back
to
be
here,
to
bring
some
of
their
knowledge
and
bring
their
wealth,
and
so
on.
So
it's
gonna,
be
you
know
as
I
pinch
myself
in
most
days
when
we,
when
I
started
this
job
and
and
as
chair
of
10
years
ago,
we've
come
a
long
way
and
it's
built
on
a
healthy
ecosystem
where,
as
mr.
B
Williams
appointed
there's
only
three
North
American
cities,
Boston
Chicago
and
Toronto,
where
we're
not
relying
on
one
specific
sector
to
be
our,
you
know
our
prosperity
engine
we
have
a
variety
of
others
and
so
on
so
I
think
it's
extreme
importance.
So
I
want
to
thank
mr.
Williams
for
this
report.
I
want
to
move
receipt
of
this
report
and
that's
the
action
we're
going
to
take.
So
all
those
in
favor
opposed.
That's
carried,
thank
you
members.
We
have
one
item
left
and
we
have
two
speakers
with
respect
to
the
last
side.
A
B
So
all
right
so
we're
moving
adopt
as
opposed
to
receive.
So
this
item
will
go
to
the
City
Council
for
further
discussion
and
so
on,
it's
okay.
So
all
this
will
moving
adoption
of
the
report.
All
those
in
favor
opposed.
That's
carried,
thank
you
and
we're
moving
right
along
to
the
next
item:
improving
imagination,
manufacturing,
innovation
and
technology
for
local
employment
requirement.
We
have
two
speakers.
The
first
speaker,
I
have
is
Mohammad
as
sim
Toronto
and
York
Regional,
Labor
Council
and
looks
like
it
also
there's
someone
else
with
you
and
is
that
come
saw.
B
M
N
M
Benefits
network,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
This
is
my
third
or
fourth
time
computing
on
the
Teague
slash
imit
program,
and
it's
been
it's
been
developing
over
the
over
the
number
of
years.
We've
contributed
our
thoughts
on
the
program
to
the
economic
development
plan.
M
Through
the
Teague's
review,
we've
met
with
staff
a
number
of
different
times
and
over
the
years,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
change
with
the
program,
particularly
last
council,
where
a
number
of
restrictions
were
put
towards
downtown
development,
which
we
welcomed
and
advocated
for
previously,
but
we're
not
sure
exactly
where
that
is
at
this
point,
with
the
OMB
being
in
flux
and
and
that
and
we
hope
to
see
that
resolved
as
soon
as
possible.
I
wanted
to
actually
just
develop
a
bit
more
of
mr.
M
So
the
first
thing
I
want
to
say
is
you
know
the
Toronto
New
York
region,
every
council
and
the
TCB
and
the
chronic
you
any
benefits.
Network.
We
welcome
the
city
staff
report
and
recommending
City
Council,
expand
the
scope
of
the
MIT
imit
employment
program
to
include
good
jobs,
workforce
development
initiatives
that
promotes
well-paying
careers
in
the
trades
and
a
strategy
to
reduce
precarious
employment
amongst
building
and
tenant
staff.
M
To
date,
reported
outcomes
of
the
imit
Employment
Program
has
had,
but
of
a
minimal
impact
on
connecting
candidates
from
city
sponsored
programs
to
the
opportunities
created
through
imit
of
the
46
projects,
receiving
imit
incentives,
approximately
70,000
total
and
seven
avoid
17,000
net
new
jobs
have
been
added
how
our
placements
from
cities,
sponsored
programs,
have
only
totaled
99,
which
is
0.5%
of
the
net
new
jobs
that
have
been
created.
This
report
provides
the
opportunity
to
adopt
a
new
administrative
approach
to
the
local
economic
requirement
for
imit
to
provide
quality,
employment
and
training
opportunities
for
city
residents.
M
We
support
the
scalable
points
based
approach,
which
requires
on
my
imit
recipients
and
its
tenants
to
and
report
on
activities
and
outcomes
of
local
employment
initiatives.
However,
we
do
have
some
very
small
recommendations
that
we
can
provide
to
strengthen
this
new
approach
to
the
MIT
Employment
Program
and
before
I
hand
it
over
to
cosa
I
just
wanted
to
say
you
know
as
we
look
at
this
program
and
we
have
over
the
further
number
of
years.
M
For
us,
the
key
incentive
of
always
providing
grants
to
corporations
is
always
to
ensure
that
it
creates
some
economic
upliftment
for
people
and
that's
through
creating
jobs.
That's
through
creating
careers-
and
this
is
a
really
important
opportunity
at
this
time,
where
we're
reviewing
this
employment
review,
but
also
the
program
as
a
whole
to
ensure
that
that
we
we
make
sure
that
the
investments
at
the
city
are
making
rocking
out,
develop
and
match
those.
So
I'll
give
it
over
to
come
set
to
talk
about
a
few
of
the
recommendations
that
we
have
yeah.
N
So
the
new
approach
to
the
the
point
based
system,
which
is
scalable,
which
is
something
that
we
really
support.
So,
if
you're
a
larger
project,
there's
certain
a
larger
amount
of
points
that
you
would
need
to
to
to
achieve.
However,
what
we've
seen
is
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
focus
on
getting
I
met
recipients
to
participate
in
city
programs,
so
we
know
in
2018,
there's
about
50
I
meant
recipients
that
participated
in
23
employment
events
and
listed
65
job
postings.
However,
from
all
that
work,
only
19
residents
participating
city,
sponsored
programs
actually
got
hired.
N
N
This
highlights
the
importance
of
focusing
the
new
approach
to
award
points
based
on
completion
or
achievements
of
outcomes
like
hiring
like
awarding
a
contract
or
implementing
a
new
policy
where
we,
where
we
see
room
for
improvement,
is,
is
looking
at
certain
activities.
That
should
not
be
awarded
point.
So
we
know
there's
been
points
that
are
allocated
towards
listing
job
openings,
with
tests
participating
in
a
city,
endorse
recruitment
event,
participating
in
a
city,
endorsed
information
event
or
interviewing
a
candidate
from
a
city
endorse
programs.
N
Those
are
activities
that
historically,
we've
seen
a
pretty
good
level
of
participation
from
I
met
recipients.
However,
we're
seeing
the
sort
of
challenge
is
actually
getting
people
to
actually
a
job,
whether
it
be
through
the
IMET
recipient
themselves
or
the
property
user.
So
where
we
see
room
for
improvement,
is
listing
these
activities
as
a
requirement
of
the
program.
Rather
than
awarding
points
towards
these
activities.
We
know
any
business
in
the
City
of
Toronto
would
have
to
spend
resources,
doing
hiring
doing
outreach
completing
interviews.
N
So
we
feel
like
that,
that's
a
recommendation
that
that
should
be
adopted.
We
also
have
some
comments
about
the
participation
in
the
new
heimet
program,
so
in
consultation
with
city
staff,
I
met
recipients
have
highlighted
the
lack
of
clarity
on
what
options
exist
and
what
activity
levels
are
required
to
achieve
compliance
as
a
key
challenge:
I
met
recipients,
achieving
employment
outcomes.
So,
with
the
new
points
based
approach
that
provides
a
list
of
options
and
targets
to
achieve
compliance,
we
recommend
that
staff
should
strongly
encourage
all
recipients
to
participate
in
the
new
employment
program.
N
Currently,
language
only
says
encouraged,
so
we
would
like
to
sort
of
strengthen
that
language
to
say
strongly
encouraged
in
terms
of
reporting.
We
support
the
city
staff
recommendation
to
develop
online
reporting
tool
for
both
I'mot
recipients
and
property
users.
However,
we
like
this
reporting
to
be
transparent
and
publicly
accessible
so
similar
to
the
woodbine
casino
community
benefits
agreement.
Where
there's
online
reporting
any
person
from
Toronto
can
go
online
and
see
exactly
how
successful
that
program
has.
So
we
know,
there's
gonna,
be
an
online
tool
developed
to
track
exactly
where
the
outcomes
from
it.
N
A
few
more
comments
around
the
employment
review
city
staff
have
recommended
a
one-year
pilot
where
stat
I
quote
staff
should
undertake
a
review
in
consultation
with
all
stakeholders
after
a
full
year
of
implementation,
late
2020,
with
a
detailed
analysis
of
opportunities
for
further
improvement
in
an
ex
IMET
review.
We
support
the
one-year
pilot
review
of
the
island
program.
N
That
would
also
be
much
appreciated
in
terms
of
preparing
for
the
jobs
of
tomorrow,
I
I
know.
This
is
something
that
was
highlighted
within
the
report,
which
is
a
key
challenge
from
both
property
owners,
as
well
as
users
was
matching
job
seekers
to
opportunities
available,
which
is
often
not
a
good
fit
due
to
a
high
skill
nature
of
the
rules
available.
So
we
know
a
lot
of
these
office
developments,
there's
a
huge
need
for
for
high
skilled
labor.
N
And
the
last
comment
would
be
around
living
wage
policy.
So
we
know
one
of
the
menu
options
of
the
point-based
system
includes
implementation
of
a
living
wage
policy
for
all
employees,
including
externally
contracted
staff
providing
ongoing
services.
City
staff
defines
living
wage
using
the
Ontario
Living
Network
living
wage
network
definition
where
living
wages.
They
are
really
twenty.
N
D
Some
of
the
things
that
you're
outlining
actually
do
appear
in
the
point
system,
but
you
you
want
to
see
the
strengthened
language
because
we
do
see
we
do
see
within
that.
The
the
outline
of
the
point
system,
that's
in
the
report
looks
at
looks
at
the
construction
piece
looks
at
the
living
wage
beats.
It's
just
not
the
standards
aren't
there.
D
N
The
things
around
like
living
living
wage
that
definitely
makes
sense
where
they
can
be
implemented
implemented,
however,
that
the
challenge
I
see
is
like
that
I
meant
recipients
are
being
awarded
points
for
normal
business
practices
like
hiring
yeah
like
hosting
a
job
fair
like
attending
City,
dropper
I,
think
that's
something
that
all
all
developers
are
should
be
at
least
a
requirement
of
receiving.
This
is
tax
incentive,
these
be
out
there
and
and
and
being
visible
and
supporting
the
local
community
and
and
the
said,
focus
the
points
around
actual
achievement
of
outcomes
right.
N
So,
if
you
hire
someone,
you
would
get
points.
If
you
would
took
Ward
a
contract,
you
would
get
points.
If
you
were
to
implement
the
policy,
you
would
get
points
right,
but
some
of
the
activities
that
actually
don't
have
real
meaningful
income
outcomes,
I
I,
think
that's
more
of
the
challenge
that
we
see
is
like
we're
rewarding
points
towards
things
that
are
not
okay,.
B
Sakura
any
further
questions
Casey,
so
I
just
have
a
quick
question
for
you,
both
so
on
the
procurement
piece
because
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
that.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
businesses
who
are
struggling,
small.
You
know
development
companies
and,
while
the
construction,
trade,
they're
non-unionized
for
the
most
part,
because
they're
small
and
many
of
them
minority-owned
so
on,
it's
my
view
that
we
don't
really
capture
that
here.
Although
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
procurement,
now,
I
don't
have
a
motion.
B
At
this
time,
I
haven't
spoke
with
the
general
manager
because
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
we're
not
sort
of
focusing
attention
on
creating
opportunity.
So
we
can
actually
give
those
small
companies
option
to
grow
within
the
context
of
bringing
skilled,
laborers
or
going
into
communities
and
reaching
out
being
able
to
gather
them.
I
realize
that
your
perspective,
the
benefit
network,
great
on
the
on
the
labor
side,
the
training
that
you
do,
the
preparation
that
you
do
to
get
people
into
the
mix,
and
so
that's
fantastic,
but
I
think
that
pieces
is
missing.
Would
you
agree?
B
This
is
an
area
that
we
really
need
to
actually
shine.
Some
light
on
in
order
to
ensure
that
we
can
actually
help
those
businesses
that
are
small
now
to
grow.
If
you
look
at
places,
Atlanta
and
some
extent,
Miami
Austin
Texas
they've
got
programs
to
actually
help
minority-owned
business
and
I
hate
using
the
term
minority.
Anything
quite
frankly,
because
I
think
we're
just
people
focusing
on
trying
to
get
ahead.
I'm
just
wondering
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that?
I
realize
it's
not
from
a
labor
side,
but
it
is
in
a
roundabout
way
right.
M
Yeah
I
think
I
mean
providing
any
type
of
support
for
for
business,
growth
and
business
development.
No
typically
is
a
good
thing,
and
you
know
we
know
many
communities
when
they
first
immigrated
here.
They
they
gravitate
to
people
who
write
they
they
they
know,
and
many
of
those
businesses
start
off
that
way
and
I
think
that
well
as
long
as
we
model
to
them
a
set
of
standards
that
we
aspire
to
write
as
that,
that
includes
unions,
that
includes
wages.
M
That
includes
standards
and
safety,
because
you
know
when,
when
we
have
businesses
that
are
starting
up,
sometimes
it's
it's
it's
difficult
for
them
to
to
get
a
leg
in
there,
but
as
they
develop,
they
develop
their
health
and
safety
policies,
and
now
so
as
long
as
we're
doing
those
things
that
that
uplift
workers
rights
workers
abilities
to
remain
safe
and
and
that
I
I
would
support
that.
Of
course,
it's
making
this
part.
B
D
D
So
perhaps
we
did,
we
could
have
a
look
offline
of
things
that
that
are
so
simple
and
so
low
weighted.
Perhaps
they
should
just
be
mandatory
going
forward
and
then
the
things
where
we've
awarded
10
points
or
more
are
the
point
system.
Is
it
possible
to
look
at
that
between
now
and
council
to
maybe
hone
it
a
little
bit?
Yes,.
L
If
I
could
just
amplify
so
the
short
answer
is
yes
yeah.
It
is
very
tricky
the
weight
of
compulsory.
You
know
you
have.
You
have
to
hire
somebody
to
get
points
you
have
to
write.
You
know
cross
the
whole
breadth
of
all
the
kind
of
applicants
we
have.
So
a
simple
example
would
be
a
manufacturer
who
uses
just
s
and
C
equipment
is
going
to
be
out
hiring
people.
They
have
to
be
trained
in
essence,
the
equipment.
If
there's
nobody
in
the
pool
at
tests,
that's
got
that
kind
of
training
than
to
disqualify.
L
Somebody
from
an
immigrant,
because
there
is
no
pool
available
I
think
is
too
draconian.
So
that's
why
they
should
be
going
through
a
process
that
will
opens
it
up
and
gives
a
better
opportunity
for
it.
We,
this
is
a
pilot
and
we
need
to
drag
it.
So
we're
not
pretty
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
are
gonna
nail
it
right,
the
first
time
rain
everywhere
we
can
take
a
look
at
the
relative
points.
I
thought
I
thought
we.
We
certainly
had
a
philosophy
that
higher
you
get,
but
yeah
you
can.
L
D
If
you
know
we're
doing
this
for
the
pilot
there's
a
tremendous
number
of
organizations
that
are
already
in
it
going
through
their
their
years
of
of
the
grant
pain
for
a
deferral,
we
can't
really
impose
anything
on
those
folks.
There
they're
grandfathered,
where
they
are
well
we're
going
to
write,
because
where
there
was
a
contractual
language
around
that,
so.
L
L
D
D
L
D
L
D
D
B
D
Comes
out
of
the
answer
I
just
took,
and
that
would
simply
be
that
I
would
ask
so
that
staff
would
have
the
ability
to
do
the
wording.
The
only
other
motion
beyond
this
one
would
be
that
that
staff
report
to
Council
this
coming
council
session
on
the
ability
to
attract
the
program
by
taking
an
open
data
approach
to
the
points
based
system
and
then,
if
there
are
any
any
concerns
with
that
they'd
be
they'd,
be
able
to
tell
us
at
council.
We
can
make
the
final
decision
on
that.
D
This
motion,
I'm,
hoping
we
can
pass
today.
All
this
does
is
take
care
of
the
concern
that
I
have
and
I've
lived
it
in
other
pilots,
where
we
want
a
good
evaluation.
If
you,
if
you
have
a
third-party
evaluation,
you
conduct
your
pilot
and
then
you
want
them
to
do
a
decent
report,
and
so
you
give
them
the
time
to
do
that.
And
then
what
happens
is
because
this
this
pilot,
if
it
starts
in
October
2019
it
will,
it
will
come
to
the
end
of
its
evaluation
period.
D
Well,
we're
discussing
the
budget
of
2021
and
because
we
want
them
to
write
a
half-decent
report,
we're
not
asking
for
that
report
back
until
mid
2022,
which
means
you
could
I.
Don't
know
that
you
would.
They
would
do
this
and
be
mean
to
us,
but
but
you
could
potentially
see
the
pilot
happened
in
20,
then
looking
for
budget
reductions,
suddenly
the
point
system
is
there
in
20
disappears
in
2021.
D
Then
council
reviews
the
evaluation
says:
let's
have
a
point
system
and
point
system
is
back.
That's
really
not
fair
to
the
business
owners
saying
because
they
really
just
don't
know
where
they
stand.
So
what
I'm
suggesting
is
the
evaluation
period
may
well
be
over
October
2020
and
we
will
get
the
proper
report,
but
so
that
counsel
and
budget
can
give
direction.
The
points
based
system
that
is
contemplated
in
the
pilot
just
continues
into
the
2021
budget
process
and
then
we'll
get
the
evaluation
to
make
a
decision
before
a
next
budget
process
would
happen.
D
B
Great
thanks,
you
have
both
just
take
a
look
at
the
second
of
the
two
councillor
before
we
move
ahead
and
while
you're
doing
that,
I
would
just
want
to
say
to
the
two
speakers.
What
I'm
going
to
do
is
go
follow
up
with
you
both
and
going
to
Council.
We
could
perhaps
look
at
the
language
and
working
with
staff
in
terms
of
tightening
it
up
a
bit
and
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
effective.
D
B
We
will
deal
with
this
as
a
second
item,
and
so
members
have
you
read
it
as
councillor
carol
has
stayed
it's
open
data
approach
to
reporting
on
the
fight
and
the
point
system.
Are
we
good?
So
let's
go
back
to
the
first
one,
we'll
vote
on
the
first
one
as
opposed
to
take
him
as
a
package.
So
all
those
in
favor
on
the
first
motion,
which
will
be
coming
on
the
screen
a
moment.
B
Here
we
are
all
those
in
favor
pose
that's
Carrie
on
the
second,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
Carrie
item
a
as
amended
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Thank
you,
I.
Think
members,
weird
done
so
motion
to
adjourn
the
meeting
council
I.
All
those
in
favor
propose
that
scared
meetings
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much
to
our
amazing
staff.
Thank
you
and
to
everyone.
Thank
you.