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Etobicoke York Community Council, meeting 32, July 4, 2018 - Part 2 of 3
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=12965
Part 1 of 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQqnm8ElKa8#t=8m38s
Part 3 of 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWzP4-TAHHg#t=3s
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0:00:03 - Meeting resume
A
Okay,
okay,
we
have
quorum,
I
call
this
meeting
back
to
order
and
just
remove
on
as
I
mentioned
this
morning.
This
is
our
last
meeting
of
the
term
and
with
that,
I
would
like
to
thank
our
our
clerk,
seer,
Brad
and
rosemary
our
staff.
The
back
here
look
after
each
and
every
day,
we're
here
just
like
to
welcome
all
their
great
work,
they've
done
for
us
over
the
last
term
and
thank
them.
So
thank
you
guys.
You
guys
are
awesome.
B
A
A
C
A
A
C
A
C
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I'm,
going
to
move
the
recommendations
from
city
staff
once
again
and
in
this
city,
initiated
amendment
to
the
LP
and
to
change
from
neighborhoods
to
core
employment
and
simply
that's
to
create
a
parking
for
this
great
great.
Actually,
commercial
establishment,
that's
being
employed
in
there
moving.
A
E
E
F
E
F
E
E
B
B
H
H
B
H
B
H
Subject
to
my
legal
colleague
over
there,
I
would
think
it
would
be
yes.
I
would
think
you
would
have
the
ability
to
move
a
motion
to
have
counsel
change,
the
distribution
of
the
parkland
dedication
and
targeted,
or
an
appropriate
parkland
and
or
green
thing
like
the
tree,
you're
speaking
to
or
Apted
Park.
A
A
A
I
I
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
say
that
we
appreciated
the
ability
to
participate
in
that
in
the
consultation
process
that
created
those
guidelines,
and
we
think
that
for
the
most
part
they
they
reflect
an
appropriate
approach
to
future
development
in
the
area.
Although
we
do
have
a
couple
of
concerns
that
we'd
like
to
to
raise
first,
the
first
concern
that
we
have
is
that
we're
concerned
about
the
use
of
building
setbacks
to
internal
lot
lines
within
the
larger
blocks
in
the
High
Park
neighborhood
area.
I
We
think
that
that's
an
impractical
way
of
dealing
with
the
separation
between
new
existing
buildings.
We
think
that
it'd
be
more
it's
more
appropriate
to
deal
with
those
separations
on
a
full
block
basis.
That's
a
much
more
practical.
We
have
solution
and
it's
a
way
of
getting
around
the
vagaries
of
we're
somewhat
arbitrary
lot
lines
are
drawn
or
redrawn
during
the
redevelopment
process.
So
that's
that's
one
recommendation
we
would
make
in
relation
to
the
to
the
guidelines.
I
It's
a
second
second
recommendation
that
we
have
is
that
we
understand
that
the
guidelines
and
the
setbacks
contained
in
the
guidelines
make
it
make
an
exemption
for
side
lot
or
rear
rear
lot
setbacks
for
parts
of
buildings
that
are
covering
existing
or
proposed
parking
garages
in
the
area.
We
think
that's
a
good
idea
in
in
in
the
first
instance,
what
we
do
think
it's
a
good
idea
is
to
restrict
the
height
of
elements
that
are
on
top
of
these
parking
garages
to
one-story.
I
We
think
that
building
elements,
including
units,
should
be
able
to
be
proposed
in
the
space.
That's
covering
the
the
parking
lot
ramps.
We
think
that,
rather
than
having
a
bunch
of
single-story
bump
outs
on
the
sidewalls
of
existing
buildings,
but
actually
having
those
ramps
and
their
enclosures
incorporated
into
the
complete
design
of
proposed
buildings
would
be
much
more
appropriate
and,
as
such,
we
recommend
that
sections.
I
I
We
have
a
concern
about
the
reference
to
subsections,
a
and
B
which
require
that
sunlight,
be
maintained
on
the
streets,
sidewalks
and
open
spaces
in
apartment
neighborhoods
for
five
hours
between
918
and
6:18
p.m.
our
concern
is
that
that's
relatively
close
to
impossible
to
achieve
within
the
area
of
the
existing
built-up
area
of
the
part
of
the
apartment
neighborhoods,
and
that
new
development
will
be
significantly
difficult.
It
would
be
significantly
difficult
for
new
development
to
achieve
those
standards
both
on
their
own
lands
and
on
adjacent
lands.
I
So
we
think
that
that
that
sort
of
standard
should
be
changed.
The
other
component
of
the
sunlight
and
shadow
concerns
we
have
is
that
there's
this.
This
idea
that
that,
in
five
point
six
point,
one
that
sunlight
and
shadow
would
limit,
be
limited
from
development
and
redevelopment
between
nine
eighteen
and
six
eighteen
to
five
hours.
I
Minimum
on
streets
and
sidewalks
five
hours
minimum
and
opens
Rowlands
designated
apartment,
neighbor,
who
says
I
mentioned,
and
seven
hours,
minimum
four
lands
designated
neighborhoods
in
particular,
we're
concerned
about
the
standard,
that's
being
applied
to
sidewalks
the
way
that
it's
written
it
actually
would
basically
be
impossible
to
achieve
on
sidewalks,
immediately
adjacent
to
development.
Typically,
these
sunlight
standards
are
applied
on
sidewalks,
opposite
new
development
not
adjacent
to
it,
because
even
a
three-story
building
will
cast
shadow
typically
on
to
its
adjacent
sidewalks.
I
So
this
is
a
kind
of
north
south
side
of
the
street
kind
of
concerns.
So,
as
a
result,
we
recommend
that
in
five
point
six
point
one,
those
three
our
requirements:
a
five
hours
on
streets
and
sidewalks,
five
hours
on
the
open
spaces
in
the
apartment,
neighborhoods
and
the
seven
hours
minimum
four
lands
designated
neighborhoods.
If
you
could,
please
wrap
up
be
deleted.
That's
most
of
my
my
comments.
The
other
concern
that
my
clients
and
I
have
is
that
we
had
a
very,
very
short
time
to
review
the
final
document.
J
K
One
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
is
that
we
are
experiencing
something
of
a
vortex,
sucking
all
kinds
of
growth
right
into
the
heart
of
the
city.
One
of
the
really
important
roles
for
municipal
government
to
play
is
to
ensure
that
we
have
clarity
as
to
where
growth
will
go
as
well
as
well.
Growth
won't
go
for
these
proposals
and
this
secondary
study.
K
This
clarity
has
been
of
a
paramount
importance
because
it
is
taking
place
in
adjacency
of
one
of
the
most
significant
city
natural
heritage,
where
any
misstep
or
compromise
may
just
fail
to
do
the
job
and
the
job.
According
to
the
provincial
policy
statement,
2014
is
to
preserve
this
precious
one-of-a-kind
natural
heritage.
For
the
long
term,
Toronto
is
now
a
city
on
one
hand,
aspiring
to
become
a
leader
in
championing
urban
biodiversity
and,
on
the
other
hand,
making
the
planning
decisions
impacting
one
of
the
most
significant
City
Natural
Heritage,
High
Park.
K
So
I
would
say
that
clearly,
Toronto
is
suffering
a
very
difficult
dilemma,
which
is
not
going
to
go
away
easily
unless
we
make
those
right
decisions
and
the
planning
decisions
according
to
the
policies
are
supposed
to
be
out
of
forefront
of
protecting
natural
heritage.
Everything
else
come
second
management
plants
thinks
the
community
can
do.
The
planning
decisions
are
here
to
save
God
the
leader
remaining
natural
heritage
we
have
within
the
city
boundaries.
K
K
If
it's
here
to
be
preserved
for
a
long
term
as
provincial
policy
statement
at
the
policies
intent,
High
Park
is
an
irreplaceable
natural
asset
and
biodiversity
hotspot
connecting
Humber
River
South
marches
with
natural
areas
along
the
waterfront.
These
natural
places
and
wildlife
habitats
have
low
where
tolerance
and
deteriorate
relatively
quickly
and
conditions
of
overuse
could.
A
A
L
The
city
did
not
even
regard
across
from
High
Park
as
adjacent,
so
this
has
changed
the
rules
of
the
game
with
regards
to
High
Park.
The
only
thing
is
that
the
city's
very
slow
in
in
changing
that
there
is
actually
a
jacent
and
the
mistake
about
why
this
kind
of
intensification
is
happening
north
of
us
or
that
it
is
a
place
for
intensification,
is
began,
as
I
said
in
the
last
time
when
this
was
chosen
as
a
place
for
intensification
without
our
having
done
a
study
at
that
time.
L
L
You
know
we're
trying
to
find
some
way,
but
it's
it's
not
really
working
out
so
well,
but
we
have
to
it
is
in
the
is
in
the
Official
Plan
I
have
to
tell
you
that
it
is
an
official
plan
that
this
area
should
have
been
protected
it.
It
is
you
guys
it
just
didn't.
Do
the
follow
the
correct
process
and
to
let
Piper
go?
L
You
know
this
is
a
vital
part
of
Toronto
and
I
was
just
talking
about
the
junction
as
a
major
tourist
attraction
draw.
The
provincial
policy
says
that
Toronto
is
a
a
gateway
to
tourists,
meaning
that
you
are
required
to
have
the
tourists
come
to
Toronto,
see
you
trono
and
then
want
to
go
to
see
the
rest
of
Ontario.
This
is
a
requirement
of
you
and,
if
we're
allow
intensification
to
be
overshadow,
a
high
park
for
the
many
high
park
is
worth
more
than
the
intent,
the
money
that
we,
the
developers
are
going
to
give
us.
L
L
It
hi
perk.
We
cannot
see
it
like
this,
like
with
the
junction
as
any
other
place
in
Toronto.
This
is
what
you're
trying
to
do
your
you're
trying
to
fit
it
in
you're,
trying
to
say
intensification
here,
and
it
should
be
everywhere.
No,
that's
not
how
it
works,
and
that's
not
how
the
provincial
the
province
said
it
should
work.
I
know
you
guys
are
pressured
by
intensification.
L
The
pressure
is
so
great
and
it's
unfair
and
I
mean
to
speak
with
Doug
Ford
about
this,
that
you
know
just
like
hydro,
one,
we're
literally
giving
away
our
most
valuable
assets,
and
this
intensification
is
just
not,
it
is,
has
gone
way
out
of
control
and
I
hope.
You
will
listen
to
this
because
we
do
want
to
have
a
future
in
Toronto.
A
M
Hi
I
live
in
the
neighborhood,
what
you're
planning?
Well
what
the
developers
are
planning
to
do
to
the
complex
of
kondal
is
already
there.
It's
just
obscene
it's
going
to
be
another
Jay,
James
town.
We
do
not
have
the
infrastructure,
we
do
not
have
the
schools
they're
all
at
capacity.
The
the
roads
at
this
point
are
already
getting
gridlocked.
M
M
Any
one
of
them
by
itself
is
not
an
issue,
but
all
of
them
together
is
going
to
destroy
the
junction
Conservation
District,
just
as
we're
getting
going,
it's
a
character
area
that
is
going
to
be
destroyed
that
we're
trying
to
protect
these
condos
are
blow
our
little
projects
out
of
the
out
of
the
water.
There's
gonna
be
so
many
people.
It's
gonna
take
the
junction
which
has
become
one
of
the
most
popular
places
to
live
in
Toronto
and
become
another
inner-city
ghetto.
N
F
F
That's
just
a
summary
of
all
of
the
many
meetings
that
we
had
as
part
of
the
area
character
study,
so
two
community
meetings,
the
statutory
public
meeting
that
we
had
at
this
last
Community
Council.
We
had
a
working
group
of
18
members.
We
had
six
working
group
meetings,
we
presented
to
the
design
review
panel
twice
and
we
had
a
online
mapping
tool
that
we
went
out
to
the
community
with
and
learned
about
the
places
of
value
and
importance
and
what
issues
needed
to
be
considered.
F
So
all
of
that
fed
into
the
study
it
fed
into
the
Official
Plan
amendment
that
you
approved
at
the
last
meeting
and
then
we
also
from
that
developed
guiding
principles
which
led
to
the
goals
and
objectives
from
the
study
and
ultimately
informed
the
urban
design
guidelines
that
are
before
you
today
and
then
just
to
answer.
The
second
part
of
anybody.
N
N
Now
I
know
when
it's
not
actually
before
us
right
now,
which
will
be
later
in
the
agenda.
There
were
two
applications
which
were
in
with
planning
before
we
started.
This
study
is
that
correct,
correct
and
we
have
had
one
come
in
before
this
study
is
approved,
but
after
the
study
was
started,
correct,
so,
according
to
planning
those
applications
should
be
looking
at
the
tools
in
place
at
that
point
in
time,
however,
if
they've
gone
through
our
working
group
with
us,
they
are
where
of
what
we
were
wanting
in
planning
was
putting
into
this
study.
N
H
I
need
to
jump
in
here
through
you,
mr.
chair.
We
have
to
be
very
careful
how
we
phrased
the
response
to
this
question
counselor,
because
we
have
to
recognize
that
the
two
applications
that
you're
talking
about
are
under
appeal
to
me
at
the
local
planning,
Appeal
Tribunal,
and
so
when
you
say
something
like
when
the
applications
predated.
What
does
that
mean?
I
would
stay
away
from
answering
that
question
in
any
kind
of
open
forum,
because
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
matters
of
debate
and
discussion
at
the
tribunal.
H
But
if
what
you're
getting
at
is
we
had
two
applications
that
staffer
of
the
opinion
are
out
of
character
with,
with
the
with
the
community
context,
I
would
say
that
is
true.
The
first
who
are
out
of
character.
Then
we
launched
the
character
study
and
the
design
guidelines
that
are
before
you.
Today.
We
have
a
subsequent
development
application
that
was
submitted
about
three
weeks
ago.
That
is
substantively
in
keeping
with
the
results
of
what
we
found
through
the
character
study
that
helped
that.
N
F
N
N
Thank
you
very
much.
I
do
want
to
start
by
once
again
thanking
the
staff,
Allison,
Jennifer,
Elizabeth
and
so
hence
doc
for
her
leadership,
and
she
was
at
most
of
the
meetings
as
well.
These
ladies,
have
worked
very
hard
and
they
have
communicated
constantly
with
the
community.
This
is
not
a
a
planning
report
without
input
from
not
just
the
working
group
where
we
did
have
18
resident
and
they
who
were
brought
on
thinking
we'd
have
three
or
four
meetings.
N
N
There
ant
sees
their
ESA
s,
it's
the
jewel
of
our
city,
the
lungs
of
our
city.
We
have
to
protect
it.
That
is
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
we
had.
So
that's.
Why
I
think
that
this
character
study
is
so
important.
It
didn't
look
at
the
developments
in
which
were
at
planning
at
the
time
it
looked
at
the
neighborhood
and
what
we
need
to
do
to
protect
the
neighborhood,
which
does
include
high
Park.
N
Unfortunately,
in
character,
studies
parks
have
not
been
considered
the
same,
as
you
heard
last
month,
blow
West
Avenue
study,
Avenue
studies,
don't
look
at
parks,
but
both
of
these
studies-
we've
done
have
looked
at
the
park.
I
will
be
moving
a
motion
at
parks
and
Environment
next
week
to
have
the
management's.
N
The
management
plan
reviewed
in
High,
Park
and
I
want
to
get
that
funding
into
2019
budget,
so
staff
can
go
ahead
and
do
that.
That
is
one
thing
we
have
said
to
the
community.
We
will
do,
but
we
need
the
funding
to
do
it,
I'm
going
to
be
pushing
that
forward,
so
really
I'm
not
going
to
take
up
much
more
time,
even
though
apparently
I
have
not
spoken
at
all
I'm.
Looking
for
your
support,
this
is
a
very
good
study.
A
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
it.
N
N
A
B
The
real
questions
have
to
be
asked
and
how
we
got
the
bylaw
pass
to
begin
with,
that
encourages
these
kinds
of
applications
and
that's
done
at
City
Hall
and
it's
done
through
the
Official
Plan,
and
that
that
official
plan
is
amended
regularly.
And
so
those
are
the
kinds
of
conversations
that
I
think
communities
need
to
be
having
with
the
City
of
Toronto.
B
The
problem
is,
most
people
are
working
for
a
living
and
don't
have
the
time
to
go
down
to
those
committees
to
give
their
input
when
we
passed
those
bylaws
once
every
term
of
office
or
or
more
depending
on
on
the
years.
But
in
this
particular
case,
all
you
have
to
do
is
travel
blur
Street
to
understand
how
congested
it
is
right
now
and
now
we're
asking
for
more
congestion
along
that
corridor
and,
in
my
opinion,
it's
not
gonna
work
what's
gonna
happen.
B
Now
is
you're
gonna
get
even
more
cars
and
more
people,
and
then
we're
gonna.
We're
gonna,
have
I'm
sorry
to
say
this.
The
left-leaning
councilors
come
and
say
we
got
to
restrict
the
cars
from
going
along
Bloor
Street
and
then
it's
going
to
create
another
war
within
the
community
of
those
that
have
cars
and
those
that
don't
this
is
this
is
a
disaster
waiting
to
happen
and
I
can't
support
it.
I,
don't
care
if
some
people
think
that
that
the
architecture
kind
of
conforms
to
the
community.
B
What
doesn't
conform
to
the
community
is
the
fact
that
City
Hall
really
hasn't
listened
to
all
the
people
that
have
come
here
over
the
years
to
talk
about
how
they
don't
want
the
density
and
instead,
what
we're
giving
them
is
density.
So,
clearly,
there's
a
disconnect
between
what
communities
are
saying
and
what
City
Hall
is
doing.
G
Just
I
had
to
speak
after
I
heard
the
councillor
speak.
His
first
of
all,
City
Hall,
is
listening
to
what
the
community
is
saying
because
they
had
a
number
they've
had
six
community
meetings
correct,
so
they
are
listening
to
the
community
and
and
III
think
that
the
local
councillor
is
she's
worked
with
the
community.
There's
been
a
consensus
with
the
community
and
I
think
each
individual
application
would
be
treated
separately
and
I
think
this
is
wonderful
that
this
study
is
being
done.
G
A
Else:
okay,
counselor
just
set
is
moving
the
staff
recommendations.
All
in
favor
quarter
vote
councillor,
Giorgio
Council
is
set
councillor
Palacio
councillor,
none
genetic
counselor,
Grimes
deputy
mayor
holiday,
countered
a
channel
on
counselor
for
in
opposition,
councillor
mammal
Edie
that
carries
next
item
32.2
final
report:
2978
eighty-eight,
Dundas
Street,
West
and
406
408
Pacific,
Avenue
zoning,
bylaw
amendment
and
rental
housing,
demolition
and
conversion
applications.
We
have
a
number
of
speakers.
Our
first
figure
viola
vibra.
L
L
We
in
the
application,
Tina
Leslie,
hired
somebody,
and
he
have
he
found
that
the
junction
has
in
all
of
Toronto.
It
has
the
most
consecutive
heritage
buildings.
The
only
problem
is
that
only
a
few
of
them
have
been
designated
and
it
is
only
the
value
of
the
junction
which
we
have
just
went
to
seed
because
it
became
a
poor
area,
and
this
is
why
we
have
these
buildings
because
it
actually
went
to
see
it
and
we
have
rediscovered
it
cleaned
it
up.
We
spend
a
lot
of
money
cleaning
it
up
and.
L
The
thing
is
that
now
these
developers
are
one
where
we're
talking
about
today
is
he's.
Building
an
eight-story
building
and
in
the
buildings
in
in
the
junction,
are
only
two
or
three
stories
for
max,
and
these
the
building
that
eight
stories
is
a
teeny
sliver
of
a
piece
of
land
is
like
a
tower
in
the
junction,
and
you
know
in
a
crush
topple
the
junction
like
dominoes.
L
Now
at
this
moment,
it's
a
it's
a
spot.
A
night
spot
and
I
reckon
people
are
flocking.
It's
a
big
tourist
draw
I,
see
tourist
bus.
There
was
a
tourist
bus
sitting
in
front
of
my
house
and
I'm,
not
even
on
a
Main
Street
a
few
weeks
ago
and
again,
the
professional
policy
requires
turn
out
to
be
a
gateway.
L
So
when
people
taste,
they
get
a
taste
of
what
Canada
has
to
offer
and
they
want
to
go
see
the
rest
of
Ontario.
You
know-
and
this
is
a
sliver
of
history
and
this
intensive
this
intensification
at
the
cost
of
we
don't
even
we
don't
even
know
the
value
of
this.
Yet
we
have.
The
Heritage
study
is
waiting
to
be
done
and
in
this
building
Pacific
is
so
incongruous.
It
is
it
displaces,
and
in
the
late
Rob
Ford
said
it
was
an
eyesore
when
it
came
up
a
few
years
ago.
L
L
It's
it
takes
a
little
piece
of
the
junction
and
it
gives
us
in
the
building.
That's
gonna,
be
boat,
looks
like
everywhere
else
in
Toronto,
so
this
area
was
it's
kind
of
a
cut-off
area
because
all
the
roads
go
through
here.
People
drive
through
they're
gonna,
say
it
always
looks
like
this
part
of
trying
to
I
even
bother
stopping
here.
So
we
have
these
situations
that
are
very
unique
and
this
this
Official
Plan
that
you
guys
are
so
proud
of
its
just
bulldozing
it,
because
you
guys
don't
see
everything
supposed
to
look
like
everything
else.
L
O
Counselors,
my
name
is
Robert
Millard
I
reprimand
associates
planning
from
we
are
here
representing
the
owners,
and
we
want
to
say
that
we
support
the
planning
report
completely
I'd
like
to
make
just
two
points.
If
I
may
kind
of
concerns
that
we've
heard
from
the
community
that
we've
tried
to
address,
one
is
sort
of
built
form.
There
was
a
earlier
approval
on
this
site
for
a
smaller
building
at
the
corner
and
2015
that
was
approved
as
owning
bylaw,
our
client
subsequent
to
that
acquired
additional
properties
and
and
hence
the
revised
application.
O
But
what
we've
done
in
during
that
period
of
time
there
there
have
been
changes
to
the
mid
rise
guidelines.
There
is
a
requirement
to
step
back
after
because
of
the
20
meters
of
Dundas,
the
step
back
after
80
80
meters
and
80
feet
rather,
and
we
have
done
that
to
the
best
we
can.
We've
also
respected
the
angular
Plains
to
the
rear
completely
and
we've
also
kind
of
scale
the
building
down
as
it
moves
west.
So
it
will
fit
more
and
and
in
the
context
of
the
surrounding
area.
O
The
the
second
point
yeah
just
with
regard
to
heritage
and
character,
which
you've
heard
deputy
and
son,
we
did
have
a
Heritage
impact
assessment
study.
We've
submitted
that
to
planning
the
Heritage
impact
assessment
study.
Did
that
found
no
major
impacts
on
adjacent
heritage
properties.
These
properties
are
not
heritage
and
I.
Think.
In
addition,
the
building
design
references
the
context
through
step
backs
at
the
at
the
3-meter
cornice
line,
scale
and
rhythm
of
storefronts,
etc.
O
So
we
think
we've
done
the
best
that
we
can
to
respect
the
neighborhood
character
and
to
other
small
points,
the
retail
in
the
revised
scheme
is,
has
been
broken
up
into
two
smaller
spaces.
There
was
a
concern
that
it
would
be
a
kind
of
a
very
large
retail
box
that
would
go
in
there,
so
we
have
two
smaller
retail
spaces.
We
also
have
lowered
the
height.
The
minimum
is
four
and
a
half
meters,
as
you
know,
on
the
street,
we've
lowered
it
to
four.
Why?
Because
it's
more
in
keeping
with
the
character
on
the
street.
O
N
O
A
M
You
for
hearing
me
may
I
refer
to
the
developers
heritage
report,
an
executive
summary.
The
statement
is
made
that
the
design
would
respond
to
the
scale
and
material
composition
of
these
Junction
neighborhood,
built
from
built
form
context,
offering
a
compatibility
with
the
architectural
industrial
heritage
of
the
area,
specifically,
the
incorporation
of
setbacks
above
the
third
story
of
the
development,
provides
a
massing
that
responds
to
the
scale
of
the
adjacent
listed
property
at
2975,
Dundas,
West
and
437
Pacific
Avenue.
F
M
Little
bit-
and
it
goes
next
to
a
two-story
house-
not
a
three-story
house
in
actual
fact
has
seen
in
the
a
cover
image
the
the
podium
height
was
a
prominent
portion
of
the
proposed
building
is
five
stories,
not
three
the
section
most
proximal
to
the
listed
three-story
heritage,
property
James
Hall,
which
is
Kitty
corner
at
2975
Dundas
West,
is
clearly
five
stories
further.
How
can
this
modernist
building
form
with
disproportionately
large
windows
and
balconies,
be
compared
with
the
existing
hundred
year
plus
building
built
form
where
no
balconies
exist?
M
If
you
can
see
the
massing
of
the
main
building,
this
is
the
three-story
building.
That's
this
dwarf
little
thing
on
the
west
side
on
the
plan
view
where
you
can
see
the
house
next
to
it,
it's
maintaining
that
this
mass
is
proportional
to
this
two-story
house
I'm,
just
wondering
if
the
author
is
looking
at
the
same
set
of
drawings
that
were
given.
M
The
gradual
incorporation
of
setbacks
above
the
third
level,
maintains
a
scale
compatible
to
the
adjacent
listed
properties,
2975
and
437.
Clearly
it
does
not,
as
well
as
the
low-rise
residential
neighborhood,
directly
to
the
north
of
the
development,
which
is
all
two-story
houses,
the
extensive
use
of
brick
masonry
and
concrete
panels
response
to
the
material
vernacular
of
the
area,
while
referencing
the
area's
industrial
heritage.
I,
don't
mean
to
be
facetious,
but
I,
don't
see
what
he's
talking
about.
M
How
was
the
massing
comparable
to
the
little
house
on
the
north,
which
is
the
two
stories
and
their
labeling
of
those
three
and
the
three-story
to
the
west,
which
until
very
recently
was
only
two
storeys
and
all
the
houses
further
along
to
the
west
are
only
two
stories
again.
How
is
the
gradual
incorporation
of
setbacks.
M
M
B
M
Like
I
said,
I
would
love
that
opportunity.
I
am
now
a
director
of
the
new
Junction
Conservation
District
Heritage,
conscious,
Conservation
District,
we're
being
blown
out
of
the
water
just
as
we're
trying
to
get
our
footing
and
if
one
proposal,
which
is
the
green
and
Ross
tire
store
has
been
approved,
I
didn't
have
chance
to
wait
around
downtown
for
the
project.
M
M
We're
just
if
all
of
these
get
through,
which
are
all
being
treated
individually,
they're
looked
at
in
a
vacuum
and
any
one
of
them.
Okay,
is
not
going
to
make
a
huge
dent
on
our
community,
but
all
of
them
together
is
going
to
make
a
disaster,
and
once
they
get
through
anybody
else
who
applies
is
going
to
be
rubber-stamp
because
the
precedence
is
there.
Thank.
B
A
P
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
share
details
about
the
junction
HCD
and
concerns
about
the
proposed
redevelopment
of
four
properties
as
presented
to
the
community
at
an
open
house
on
June
20th.
As
chair
of
the
junction
HCD
board,
it
is
once
again
my
privilege
to
share
objections
from
our
dedicated
volunteers
and
community
supporters
and
urge
you
to
reject
the
excessive
redevelopment
plans
proposed
proposed
for
the
accumulated
lands
at
two
nine
seven,
eight
through
two
nine
eight,
eight
Dundas
Street
West
and
406
408
Pacific
Avenue.
P
Why
do
we
need
to
repeat
errors
from
lessons
learned
in
other
areas
of
the
city?
Every
one
of
your
communities
are
facing
the
same
intensification
pressures
along
with
the
stresses
that
are
being
placed
on
the
neighborhoods
and
the
residents.
We
only
need
to
look
at
the
experience
of
our
first
mid-rise
building.
It
was
a
light
gray
box
on
this
series
of
maps
that
you
received.
P
The
Duke
condo
at
seven
stories
was
actually
part
of
the
2015
evaluation
of
the
mid
rise
built
form
that
reinforced
the
need
to
reduce
building
heights
on
20
meter,
roads
and
recommended
changes
were
approved
by
council
in
2016
any
exception.
Today,
invalidates
councils
intent
to
mitigate
the
unintended
consequences
from
reoccurring
on
the
smallest
20
meter,
Avenue
Road,
widths,
Etobicoke,
council
and
planning
and
growth
management.
Members
may
remember
the
first
version
from
September
2014,
which
was
used
as
another
example
of
the
unintended
consequences
on
our
20
meter
Avenue.
P
Incidentally,
the
Duke
also
has
a
single
commercial
shop
on
the
Main
Street,
which
is
not
in
keeping
with
the
fine
grain
retail
fabric
of
our
historic
Street,
Cape
streetscape
and
the
one
shop
is
in
LCBO,
which
is
very
ironic.
Considering
the
93
years
of
alcohol
prohibition
in
the
junction
that
was
repealed
in
1997.
P
The
cumulative
effect
of
these
redevelopment
projects,
scattered
throughout
our
impending
heritage
district,
is
catastrophic
if
implemented
as
proposed.
Any
one
of
these
projects
establishes
an
incompatible
precedent
for
other
applications
and
each
has
the
potential
to
undermine
the
character
and
value
of
the
junction
as
a
heritage
district.
Our
letter
and
analysis
highlights
issues
with
other
mid-rise
performance
standards
that
were
ignored.
P
P
We
are
doing
our
part
to
ensure
that
the
provincial
policy
statement,
the
growth
plan,
the
city's
official
plan
and
policies
and
the
mid-rise
performance
standards
are
being
applied
consistently
and
equitably.
We
need
staff
and
council
members
to
also
ensure
that
development
applications
are
held
accountable
to
these
same
exemplary
standards
as
they
have
been
published
and
approved.
We
hope
you
will
deny
the
applicant
approval
to
proceed
with
the
redevelopment
proposal
until
it
complies
with
the
six
story,
height
and
other
invaluable
performance
standards.
P
We
hope
you
will
not
grant
any
exceptions
to
exceed
the
mid
rise
height
of
16
meters.
We
understand
the
need
for
growth
and
intensification,
but
we
are
sure
the
intent
of
the
policies
was
not
to
be
implemented
at
the
expense
of
historic
character
value.
The
curse
of
undisciplined
growth
is
well
known.
It
was
more
than
two
decades
ago
that
a
PepsiCo,
Inc
CEO
warned
that
growth
for
its
own
sake
is
the
logic
of
a
cancer
cell.
P
I
also
have
a
quote
from
councillor
Josh
Matt
Lowe
far
too
many
main
streets
are
being
affected
by
developments
that
care
more
for
reaching
the
sky
than
what
happens
at
street
level,
and
this
statement
applies
to
the
junction,
a
neighborhood
that
has
a
rich
and
vibrant
legacy
with
a
formative
history
that
dates
back
to
the
early
1800s.
Thank.
A
F
Wanted
to
give
you
guys
a
different
position:
different
side,
just
I
went
to
one
of
the
council,
one
of
the
meetings
that
was
organized
by
the
councillor
in
the
area
to
meet
with
the
developers
and
to
be
with
the
neighbors
to
get
a
sense
of
what
was
going
on
with
this
new
development
and
what
I
heard
was.
Basically,
though,
there
was
nothing
that
we
could
do,
this
development
was
going
to
go
through.
F
This
was
something
that
the
council
had
decided
was
necessary
and
important
for
intensifying
all
of
the
avenues
and,
as
we
looked
through
the
various
diagrams
and
pictures
and
plans
of
which
were
very
detailed
and
complex,
I
kept
hearing
things
that
were
incompatible
with
what
I
was
seeing
so
I
was
hearing.
Oh,
it's
going
to
be
the
same
as
the
three
story
line
that
far
as
are.
They
are
not
Street,
but
actually
the
the
story
line
is
suddenly
five
stories.
F
Oh
it's
going
to
be
under
20
meters,
but
when
you
look
at
the
drawings,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff
on
top
of
the
20
meters,
that
doesn't
really
count.
That's
what
kind
of
a
eight
extra
meters
that
isn't
actually
counted
and
I
was
really
confused
by
this
and
very
frustrated
and
I
thought?
Well,
we
have
an
opportunity
now.
Just
to
you
know,
ask
you
to
have
a
second
look
at
this
to
really
have
a
look
at
our
neighborhood,
our
history,
this
section
of
the
city
that
is
truly
unique.
It
is
a
very
special
place.
F
F
Up
for
discussion,
I
think
that's
great,
but
let's
have
an
opportunity
to
have
a
discussion
about
bringing
it
down
to
a
size
that
is
reasonable
that
actually
fits
making
it
a
character
that
is
in
keeping
with
what
is
all
about
extreme,
that's
so
jolly
out
of
keeping
with
what
we
have
at
this
point.
So
I
have
a
few
minutes,
so
just
want
to
tell
you
about
how
hard
it
is
to
get
on
the
subway
it's
at
6
o'clock.
F
Q
Q
I'm
here
today
to
oppose
the
approval
of
this
project
as
its
proposed
and
recommend
that
it
be
deferred.
There
are
a
number
of
issues.
You've
heard
them
from
other
people.
The
most
irritating
is
the
lack
of
a
third-story
consistently
across
the
sides
of
the
building.
At
the
moment,
it
rises
to
the
five
storeys
in
spite
of
what
it
says
in
the
Heritage
study.
In
addition,
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
heritage
study
from
the
city
at
this
point
and
I
suspect.
Q
The
reason
for
that
is,
we
don't
have
a
study
in
place
in
the
area
to
guide
the
planners
or
to
guide
anybody.
It's
a
free-for-all.
The
people
are
coming
in
and
putting
up
all
or
proposing
all
sorts
of
stuff
and
planners
are
trying
to
make
a
deal
to.
You
know,
get
a
few
levels
off
the
top
in
return
for
something
that
said
he
wants,
but
the
end
result
isn't
pleasing
the
building
is
simply
too
tall
for
that
area.
Q
Another
aspect
of
the
building
that's
been
referenced.
Is
it's
located
right
in
the
heart
of
the
junction
it's
kiddy
corner
across
from
the
historic
building
that
was
put
up,
the
three-story
historic
building
was
proposed.
Here
is
a
five-story
building
on
the
opposite
corner
that
bears
no
resemblance
to
that
building.
Clearly
an
impact.
Q
The
projects
in
the
phase,
one
study
area
for
the
junction,
Heritage,
Conservation
District-
that's
been
approved
by
council.
The
problem
is,
we
can't
get
a
planner
in
place
to
start
the
plan.
So
as
a
result,
we've
got
five
projects
currently
before
us
with
more
in
the
works
and
there's
really
no
yardstick
to
measure
any
of
them
and
we're
running
into
the
same
problem
when
we
go
to
community
councils
or
other
venues
the
morning
at
City
Hall
dealing
with
two
of
them,
and
here
this
afternoon
with
one.
Q
Q
This
one
here
this
one
here
this
one
here
this
one
here
and
what
we
need
to
do
is
take
a
step
back
and
a
more
comprehensive
law,
and
that
would
give
us
time
then
to
get
some
kind
of
planning
framework
in
place.
So
we
can
figure
out
what
the
good
and
the
bad
and
the
ugly
is
in
this
neighborhood.
We
know
it's
a
great
neighborhood,
but
and
it's
headed
in
the
right
direction.
Q
Q
Q
We
need
the
time
for
the
planning
study
to
get
underway.
I've
lived
in
the
area
for
48
years.
Obviously,
I
think
it's
pretty
good
I
hope
to
live
there
a
few
more
years.
Although
someone
this
morning
at
another
meeting,
commented
that
the
olders
older
people
are
rolling
out
of
the
area,
so
I
hope
I
don't
roll
over
for
a
little
while
I'm
concerned.
Approval
of
this
project
now
will
harden
the
character
that
I
like
so
much
and
I
know.
Other
people
do
as
well
and
I
urge
you
to
defer
the
project.
Thank
you
very
much.
Q
O
O
B
H
You,
mr.
chair,
we
have
Paul
maca
from
the
Heritage
Preservation
Services,
who
can
talk
about
the
process
about
heritage
conservation
districts
generally,
but
to
answer
your
question
very
basically,
every
applicant
has
a
right
to
file
development
application
and
when
a
development
application
is
filed
and
it's
deemed
to
be
a
complete
development
application,
we
are
also
bound
to
prepare
our
professional
advice
to
community
council
and
city
councils.
B
H
What
you
have
to
understand
it
as
as
the
I
think
it
was,
the
proponents
planning
consultants
said
so.
This
was
first
approved,
half
of
the
property
was
approved
for
and
a
new
building
in
2015
by
City,
Council
and
I
believe
it
was
shortly
thereafter
that
the
process
for
an
eighth
CD
was
brought
forward
might
have
been
a
little
before
then
so,
2014,
okay,
it
was
commenced
in
2014,
and
that
was
that
meant
sorry.
What
was
committed?
The
request
to
have
a
Heritage,
Conservation
District
study
done
in
the
junction,
came
forward
in
2014.
H
B
H
Again,
what
is't
the
processes
counselor
is
that
nominations
go
forward
to
undertake
Heritage
Conservation,
District
studies.
A
group
goes
forward
to
planning
and
growth
management
committee
Paul.
If
memory
serves
okay,
a
group
of
nominations
go
forward
to
planning
growth
management
committee
collectively
and
then
goes
through
planning
and
growth
management
committee
and
says
of
these
I
think
the
last
Rosh
was
about
a
dozen
of
these
dozen.
They
get
collectively
looked
at
and
the
big
the
first
four
get
done.
So
the
the
Heritage
Conservation
District
study
in
in
the
junction
was
in
the
second
trash.
B
So
in
the
junction
I
mean
I,
can't
I
can't
think
well,
there's
only
a
few
communities.
I
can
think
that
probably
deserve
a
heritage
study
more
than
any
other
communities.
The
junction
is
certainly
one
of
them.
How
do
we
accept
applications
before
the
Heritage
studies?
Okay,
because
somebody,
but
because.
B
B
There
are
so
many
experts
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
All
of
us
make
a
lot
of
money.
Those
experts
in
Toronto
are
planners
and
and
and
there's
six
six
digit
figures
that
we
make
every
year.
I
would
think
that
somebody
in
the
department
would
say
it's
the
junction
folks.
We
should
be
bringing
forward
a
recommendation
to
Council
to
do
a
study
here
has.
H
That
never
happened,
and
that
was
done
in
2014,
but
it
was
done
in
context.
I
believe
it
was
a
dozen
in
24th.
There
were
so
there
was
about
a
dozen
different
requests
that
came
forward
in
2014.
They
were
ranked
they
were
brought
forward
through
plan
and
growth
management
committee
and
ultimately
decided
upon
by
City
Council.
Okay
and
again
so
there
were
four
that
were
in
the
first
Bunch
was.
B
B
H
Counselor
back
in
2014,
there
were,
like
I
said
it's
about
a
dozen
and
staff
recommended
that
the
first
four
be
done
immediately
in
the
second
four
were
a
lower
priority.
The
day
this
Heritage
Conservation
District
study
was
in
the
lower
priority
and
council
said:
yes,
go
do
the
first
four
and
when
you're
done,
those
four
then
started
on
the
next
one.
We
fast
forward
four
years
three
and
a
half
years
later,
and
in
January
of
this
year,
council
said:
yes,
the
put
the
money
aside.
H
H
Correct
because
I
mean
what
the
gentleman
has
asked
for
deferral,
that's
within
community
councils
power
and
that's
within
councils
power
to
defer
it,
but
it
has
also
been
deemed
a
complete
application
and
if
the
applicant
is
not
happy
with
that,
they
have
an
alternate
route
to
take
it
to
get
a
resolution.
It's
not
a
complete
application.
It.
B
B
R
S
You
Tara
I
could
speak
to
that.
That's
their
meeting,
Council
of
January
February
2018
council
did
prioritize
the
junction
Harwich
Conservation
District,
all
Harwich
conservation
districts.
New
studies
are
currently
on
hold
till
they
can
be
prioritised
bark
until
they
can
be
to
the
work
plan.
My
division
can
be
set,
but
staff
see
the
junction
near
its
conservation
district
plan.
It
has
a
priority
for
2019,
so
we
see
it
as
a
priority.
Harwich
Conservation
District
plans
there
it's
a
process,
that's
hair,
jacked.
It
takes
up
to
two
years
to
go
through
the
district.
R
H
What
Paul
is
referring
to
is
yes,
it's
it's
the
internal
work
plan,
I
mean
there's
a
report
that
goes
forward
to
plane
and
growth
management
committee
in
September
of
every
year
with
regards
to
the
city's
city
planning
overall
work
plan,
but
within
that
work
plan
we
also
have
things
like
Avenue
studies,
Heritage
Conservation
districts
and
all
these
kinds
of
things
that
populate
that
no.
But
we
did
get.
H
R
H
Paul
was
explaining
Heritage
Conservation
districts
take
about
two
years
to
complete
right.
So
at
any
point
in
time
you
have
some
that
are
ongoing
and
some
that
are
working
their
way
through
the
tutu's
to
actually
assign
the
money
to
so
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
the
2018
capital
budget.
I
would
guess
that
the
2018
heritage
capital
budget
was
probably
set
aside
to
complete
the
four
that
were
assigned
by
Council
starting
in
2014.
There
were,
there
were
four.
You
said:
I.
R
It
was
it's
just.
It
was
a
really
simple
question:
when
is
this
particular
Heritage
study
to
be
completed
and
if
there's
something
coming
or
would
have
came
in
September,
like
obviously
there's
a
work
plan
and
the
thought
process,
even
if
hasn't
been
approved
by
council,
that
plan
he's
been
working
on
over
the
last
couple
of
months.
When
do
we
see
this
one
being
initiated
and
completed
just
I'm
trying
to
get
a
simple,
simple
answer?
If.
R
S
S
S
Would
be
in
line
with
the
Harris
conservation
districts
that
are
going
through
right
now,
but
you
do.
I
should
also
point
out,
though,
through
your
chair,
that
these
are
also
appealable
to
the
l-pad.
So
some
of
the
Harris
conservation
districts
that
we
completed
in
2015
are
actually
still
under
appeal
right
now,
not
for
instance,
the
st.
Lawrence
arts,
Conservation
District,
and
unlike
a
heritage
designation,
an
individual
herds,
a
designation,
Harris,
Conservation
District
doesn't
have
any
interim
controls
built
into
it,
so
it
doesn't
come
into
effect
until
the
appeals
are
finalists.
Final,
finalized,
okay,.
G
First
of
all,
I
saw
Weston
was
on
the
priority
list
like
I.
Just
don't
get
it
so
in
areas
where
we
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
development
applications
coming
in
and
severance
and
demolition
and
which
is
happening
in
my
ward
I,
don't
understand
why
heritage
is
not
communicating
that
to
the
plenty
and
growth
committee
that
these
are
priority.
G
Neighborhoods
that
need
to
be
bumped
up
for
these
studies,
because,
what's
happening,
is
taking
us
so
long
that
Allah
a
lot
of
this
development
and
severance-
and
you
know,
committee
of
adjustment-
applications
were
happening
and
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
because
we're
in
the
process.
So
why
is
it?
Why
is
it
that
you're
not
communicating
that
to
plan
and
growth
or
to
the
budget
committee?
So
we
we
could
not
react
to
it
rather
than
you
know.
We
need
to
be
proactive
on
these
issues.
So
what
why
not
so.
G
Other
areas
like
I
mentioned
Weston
that
that
the
same
thing
is
happening
and,
and
we're
not
being
proactive,
I
just
don't
know
why
that
message
isn't
communicated
to
to
us
when
we
go
through
these
the
budget
process
into
planning
and
growth,
but
anyway
I
guess:
that's
not.
You
can't
answer
that
okay
I
mean
I,
think
falling
behind
when
it
comes
to
her
to
districts
and
funding
these
these
studies
so
to
the
planning
staff.
Community
meetings
were
held
on
on
the
on
the
subject.
O
G
O
G
Okay
but
I've
if
I
recall
it
the
last
community
council
meeting,
didn't
we
have
a
deputation
from
somebody
from
the
school
board
indicating
that
now
they
were
going
to
get
more
involved,
because
this
this
comment
from
the
school
board
is
really
a
comment
that
we've
received
for
years.
Like
oh
well,
you
know
we,
you
know,
but
did
she
not
say
that
the
last
community
council
meeting,
whoever
came
to
the
community
council
I
can't
remember
her
name,
is
that
they
will
now
be
proactive
and
that
they
want
to?
G
H
In
in
regard
to
your
question,
yes,
it
was
on
the
High
Park
apartment
neighborhood
planning
study
that
was
on
the
agenda
last
time
around
a
legal
representative
on
behalf
of
the
school
board,
did
show
up
and
asked
that
City
Council
put
a
holding
provision
in
the
secondary
in
this
site
near
sight
and
area
specific
policy
about
holds
on
all
new
development
until
school
capacity
was.
It
was
in
effect
and
you're.
Quite
right
that
represented
said,
the
school
board
is
getting
much
more
aggressive.
H
Interestingly
enough
on
all
of
the
applications
you
see
in
front
of
you
today,
I
think
almost
all
of
them
have
the
same
recommendations
about
signage
and
warning
clauses.
Now,
recognizing
that
some
of
these
applications
have
been
around
for
a
while,
and
that
representative
said,
the
school
board
wants
to
get
more
aggressive
as
of
January
2018.
H
H
You
would
have
to
ask
the
school
board
that,
quite
honestly,
I
don't
know
what
the
school
board
has
intentions.
We've
reached
out
to
the
school
board
and
suggested
a
meeting
with
a
a
global
meeting
between
the
school
board
and
planning
staff
is
in
order.
If
they're
changing
the
way
they
want
to
respond
to
development
applications.
Citywide.
N
Thank
you
very
much.
I
will
have
questions
for
both
but
I
start
with
Greg
senior
standing
there.
So
you
can
hear
the
frustration
we
have
gone
through
this
in
2015
with
the
original
building,
which
was
approved
by
City
Council.
Is
that
correct,
that's
correct?
Yes,
the
proponents
then
went
and
purchased
some
more
property
and
started
in
another
application
to
add
those
properties
to
the
original
ones.
That's.
N
O
Way
we
viewed
the
the
additional
properties
they
were
transitioning
down
to
the
one
day.
Eighty
percent,
so
the
the
original
building
was
was
taller,
was
each
storey
buildings
what
we
use
the
the
the
additional
buildings
or
the
additional
properties
to
transition
down
to
the
eighty
percent.
So
when
you
get
down
to
the
west
end
of
the
property,
it
would
be
sort
of
in
compliance
with
that
sort
of
direction.
O
O
N
O
H
F
Has
been
a
name
change,
so
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board
is
now
l-pod,
but
there
are
certain
matters
or
that
are
effectively
grandfathered
under
the
old
system,
so
they're
treated
similar
to
the
way
that
the
OMB
would
have
dealt
with
them.
The
new
system
we're
just
starting
to
have
appeals
that
are
going
to
be
heard
under
the
new
system,
so
we
don't
know
exactly
what
that's
going
to
look
like
yet,
but
there
is
a
different
process.
N
N
Right
can
I
talk
to
heritage.
Please.
So
again
you
can
hear
the
frustration
in
this
room
about
a
nomination
going
in
in
2014
I
know
they
weren't
prioritized,
as
was
counsel,
Nancy,
otters
and
others
for
the
first
batch
now
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
my
understanding
is:
we've
got
X
number
underway
right
now
and
at
the
last
meeting,
I
went
to
and
I
think
council
Annunziata
was
there
as
well.
We
were
told
that
no
new
ones
could
start
until
some
of
the
ones
being
worked
on
now
are
completed.
S
N
Are
aware
that
we
have
I've
been
going
to
meetings
and
I
know
councillor
Nancy
Otto's
as
well,
because
we've
still
got
various
councilors
who
are
now
having
pressure
in
our
wards
wishing
these
studies
had
started
so
that
we
would
have
if
it's
going
to
be
a
district,
it
was
designated
now
because
then
that
would
be
different
impact
with
developments
right,
I
guess
my
questions
are
now
going
on.
So
we
got
the
timing
of
a
study.
We
don't
actually
know
if
it
will
start
in.
2019
depends
on
others
finishing.
Is
that
correct.
S
S
S
We
had
to
look
at
the
existing
policy
framework
and
two
that
we
look
at
the
adjacent
heritage
properties.
There
are
two
adjacent
listed
heritage
properties.
One
of
them
is
at
st.
James
Hall
constructed
in
1888,
and
also
there's
the
enlisted
property
across
the
street
to
403
Pacific's,
which
is
a
listed
house
built
in
1886.
S
S
The
horizontal
and
vertical
articulation
the
response
to
the
Harwich
building
across
the
street,
the
materiality
picks
up
with
mixed
up
on
the
masonry
building
across
the
street
and
again
the
massing
is
such
it's
five
story.
It's
five
story
massing
on
Dundas,
Street
adjacent
to
the
three
story
here,
each
building
across
the
street
and
in
our
opinion
this
does
satisfy
our
official
plan
policies
and
we
feel
it
does
conserve
the
adjacent
Harwich
property.
S
N
A
N
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
a
difficult
one,
but
I
will
be
supporting
the
staff
recommendation.
I'm
also
pushing
to
get
that
HCD
study
started
as
quickly
as
possible.
I
know
the
frustration
or
I
have
a
motion.
Sorry
I
do
have
a
motion,
so
my
motion
is
that
City
Council
direct
city
planning
staff
to
consult
with
with
myself
and
the
local
community
organizations
when
it
comes
to
the
site
plan
approval
process
that
will
get
some
more
input
from
the
community
as
to
the
shape
and
color
of
knock
shape.
N
The
site
plan
of
the
streets,
trick
tape
and
the
materials
the
other
one
I'm
doing
and
I
know
two
accounts.
The
holidays
been
using
this
one
now
as
well
is
we
are
going
to
be
removing
this
address,
whatever
the
address
may
end
up
being
from
the
b1
parking
on
street
parking
permit
zone,
what
that
means
is
that
anyone
who
does
buy
into
any
of
this
building
at
all
at
any
point
in
time
can
not
get
an
on
street
parking
permit.
N
This
is
something
I've
been
doing
as
transportation
knows
for
several
years
now,
because
I
don't
believe
anyone
moving
into
our
neighborhood,
who
has
an
opportunity
to
buy
or
rent
a
parking
spot
in
a
new
building
should
be
allowed
to
then
take
the
community
spaces
away
from
residents
who
have
no
other
option
but
to
go
on
to
onto
the
streets.
So
that's
my
motion.
I
am
doing
we're
going
back
to
the
HCD.
I
have
gone
to
as
many
meetings
as
I
can
I
have
pushed
as
hard
as
I.
N
Can
we
we
bumped
up
this
study
at
a
point
when
we
could
I'm,
not
the
only
counselor
doing
this
and
I
know
when
our
nomination
first
went
in,
we
weren't
under
so
much
pressure
for
development
in
this
area.
I
know
that
staff
have
only
can
do
X
number
of
studies,
and
this
is
why
I
am
making
sure
every
chance.
N
I
get
I
am
reminding
preservation
staff
that
the
junction
is
now
under
pressure
and
we
need
to
get
the
HDD
in
there
as
an
extra
planning
tool
and
as
an
extra
tool
which
will
protect
the
building
and
the
built
form.
I
know
the
HCD
community
is
working
very
hard
at
this
point.
To
do
what
is
the
hardest
part
is
identify
individual
buildings
to
get
them
designated.
We
worked
hard
and
Tina
was
here
a
few
months
ago,
looking
at
one
of
our
buildings
we
needed
to
get
designated,
we
succeeded
in
doing
that.
N
The
person
who
had
purchased
it
agreed
with
heritage
to
add
two
extra
floors
to
it
has
now
sold
it.
We
don't
know
what
is
actually
happening
with
that
building.
Another
building
on
the
east
side
of
Pacific
is
in
the
process
of
being
designated
as
well.
When
that
proponent
came
and
spoke
to
me
about
their
big
proposal,
we
made
a
point
of
telling
them
that
that
building
there
will
be
designated
and
they
have
to
respect
the
designation
of
that
building.
N
N
Planning
has
to
look
and
review
every
application
when
they
come
in
and
once
it's
deemed
a
complete
application,
as
you
all
very
well
know,
after
X
number
of
days
that
proponent
has
the
opportunity
to
appeal
it
whether
it's
at
the
OMB
of
a
new
T
lab.
They
have
that
opportunity
to
do
that.
So
that
is
where
I
have
a
big
concern.
B
You
know
mr.
chairman
I'm
gonna
move
to
motions
the
first
one
is
request:
a
city
solicitor
and
a
director
community
planning
a
topical,
your
district
to
submit
directly
to
counsel
for
the
July
23rd
meeting,
an
interim
control
by
law
for
the
junction
area.
The
second
one
is
that
this
matter
be
referred
to
the
Director
of
Planning
Etobicoke
York
District,
with
a
request
that
the
matter
be
submitted
to
Etobicoke
York
Community
Council.
At
such
time,
the
Heritage
study
for
the
area
is
available,
so
one
is
a
deferral.
The
other
one
is
is.
B
This
is
where
experience
does
come
in,
and
you
know
there
are
people
that
push
for
term
limits
in
in
council.
I've
been
here
for
28
years
and
I
know
that
an
interim
Control
bylaw
might
work
in
this
particular
case.
An
interim
control
by
level
stop
development
and
any
applications
from
entering
the
planning
department.
B
If
it's
written
up
and
approved
by
council
at
its
next
meeting
that
will
protect
the
junction,
it
will
protect
to
John's
Junction
from
the
the
the
applications
that
might
be
ready
to
come
forward
in
over
the
next
little,
while
because
staff
with
an
interim
Control
bylaw
will
reject
any
applications
until
that
heritage
studies
done
at
least
that's
what
I'm
hoping
this
interim
Control
bylaw
will
do.
Most
people
don't
know
that
that
we
have
this
tool
available
to
us
and
that
we
could
ask
counsel
to
support
an
interim
control
by
law.
B
B
A
B
B
My
community
wanted
a
development
and
staff
said
no
to
it.
In
this
case,
we've
got
one
and
a
half
meetings
that
took
place
in
the
community.
This
community
doesn't
want
this
development
and
we're
ramming
it
down
there
through,
like
we're
not
connected
to
the
city,
Toronto
we're
doing
the
opposite
of
what
our
communities
want.
Why
are
we
not
waking
up
to
this?
Why
isn't
anybody
telling
community
that
they
have
rights
and
they
have
rights
to
their
own
communities?
This?
B
This
study
I'm
not
sure
why
it
hasn't
moved
in
the
past
or
why
at
the
recommendation
hasn't
been
to
defer
this
until
the
studies
been
done,
but
I'm
gonna
try
it
I'm
gonna,
try
it
here
and
and
if
what
I'm
doing
is
not
legally
bound,
then
so
be
it
oh
I'll,
listen
to
to
the
lawyer.
River
is
suggesting
that,
but
on
an
on
a
point
of
privilege,
I
can't
stand
when
people
interrupt
anybody
speeches,
let
alone
mine.
B
A
A
A
E
A
B
Right
so
this
matter
be
referred
to
the
director
Community
Planning
Etobicoke
York
District,
with
a
request
that
the
matter
be
submitted
to
topical
York,
Community
Council.
At
such
time
as
the
Heritage
study
for
this
area
is
available,
I
asked
staff.
It
was
an
order,
a
staff
said
it
was
an
order
and
that's
why
I
moved
it.
Okay,.
N
I
have
a
comment
about
the
motion.
Comment
comment
about
the
motion,
I
guess
or
the
question
of
the
mover.
Whatever
you
want
to
call,
it
so
counts:
I'm,
Emily
T.
In
the
last
City
Council
meeting,
the
new
Ward
17
has
been
transferred
to
a
downtown
Etobicoke
site
and
Atoka
downtown
East
York
Community
Council.
So
would
this
not
go
there
so
I.
B
With
the
applicant,
this
is
a
community
and
the
community
would
probably
want
to
be
heard
at
any
Appling
as
well,
and
if
that
board
heard
that
we
were
in
the
midst
of
trying
to
do
a
heritage
study
and
then
we're
accepting
applications,
you
know,
as
as
we
go
along
I'm
sure
any
board.
That's
gonna
hear
this
application
is
gonna,
ask
the
same
question,
and
that
is
how
did
this
happen?
Why?
How
does
council
decide
to
do
a
heritage
study
and
then
accept
applications
willy-nilly.
J
B
B
R
H
R
H
A
So
we're
for
a
motion
on
the
floor
recorded
vote.
I.
Take
it
all
in
favor
of
the
referral
counsel
to
channel
council
member
leety
most
counter
to
Giorgio
I'm.
Sorry,
do
you
favor
so
councillor
Palacio
councillor
to
channel
and
councillor
manly
in
favor
opposed
counter
to
Giorgio
count
reduce
at
concert
on
Jetta
comfort
of
sanity,
councillor
Grimes,
councillor
holiday,
councillor
Campbell.
That
loses
okay.
The
second
motion
of
countermelodies
you're,
suggesting
that
that's
out
of
order
is
that
correct.
F
B
B
A
A
B
A
A
E
N
G
R
You,
mr.
chair,
you
know
I'm
gonna,
echo,
councilman
and
Ziad
as
serious
frustrations
with
the
process
that
we
implemented.
You
know
community
wanted
and
HCD,
and
it's
going
to
be
ten
years
before
this
thing
comes
to
fruition,
I
mean
that's
a
joke
right,
it's
everybody
gets
excited,
they
go
to
Council.
We
approve
these
things
and
and
look
I've
been
on
planning
growth.
Now
this
is
my
fourth
year.
R
R
There's
gonna
be
all
kinds
of
development
in
that
area.
What
was
the
point
of
the
study
so
plenty
of
blame
to
go
around
with
how
things
are
being
managed
in
our
departments?
I,
don't
think
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity,
as
politicians
here,
to
create
some
leverage
for
the
community
and
say
no
to
this
application.
Let
them
go
to
the
alt
pad.
It's
gonna
be
two
three
years
before
they
get
there
and
hopefully
we
get
a
heritage
study
and
you
know
what
there's
some
leverage.
R
J
chair
I
will
be
supporting
the
local
councillor
on
this.
You
know
the
the
Planning
Pro
says
I
know
can
be
very
frustrating,
but
I
come
at
it
from
the
point
of
view
where
you
know
most
of
you
have
have
had
streets
designated
as
avenues
in
your
area
and
those
of
us
who
not
even
get
designation
as
an
Avenue
on
a
major
arterial
road
suffer
some
horrible
consequences.
J
You
talk
about
the
amount
of
time
to
get
a
hearing
at
the
board.
You
may
recall
that
in
my
area,
I
got
a
hearing
within
60
days,
unheard
of
no
community
consultation,
no
statutory
public
meeting,
a
Community
Council
and
a
Board
hearing
within
60
days,
so
the
planning
process
doesn't
work
in
mysterious
ways.
However,
go
back
to
this
application.
There
probably
was
an
application
submitted
in
2014
sometime.
We
don't
have
the
exact
date
on
a
smaller
property
and
it
was
processed
through
the
planning
process.
J
This
particular
application
is
a
unique
application
because
of
the
rights
that
the
property
owner
has,
and
he
probably
if
he
appealed
to
the
board,
he
might
even
win
a
full
eight
story
building
on
the
larger
site.
But
that's
not
what
he's
intended
to
do
with
the
work
of
planning
staff.
What
they've
done
is
they've
modified
the
building
to
gradually
thing
work,
the
building
down,
as
he
headed,
westward,
to
try
and
accommodate
her
to
try
and
comply
with
what
this
new
designation
will
will.
J
Protection
will
provide
for
the
neighborhood,
so
he's
trying
to
sort
of
say
you
know
what.
If
this
is
designated
a
heritage
area,
we
will
try
and
comply
with
those
new
regulations
that
we're
the
ratios
12.8
as
opposed
to
one
to
one
and
we'll
try
and
accommodate
and
work
within
the
constraints,
and
that's
what
has
been
done
by
both
planning
staff
and
the
applicant
working
together
and
with
the
local
council
and
they've
arrived
at
this
masse
that
people
may
not
be
happy
with,
but
the
reality
is.
A
Coming
on
the
screen,
all
in
favor
recorded
vote
councillor
DiGiorgio
counter
to
set
counter
plot
co-counsel
nuns,
yet
a
counselor
for
Santee,
counselor,
Grimes,
counselor,
Holliday
and
counselor.
Can't
our
Campbell
opposed
counselor
mammal,
IDI
and
counselor
to
channel
that
passes.
Clauses
mended
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
clauses
amended
all
in
favor
Council
to
Georgia
Ocala,
to
set
counselor
Palazzo
hunter
Annunziata
counselor
Chris
ante
counselor,
Grimes,
counselor
holiday,
counselor,
Campbell
opposed
counsel
to
Channel
and
counselor
family
that
carries
okay,
folks,
folks,
okay,
please
I
have
to
after
add
to
the
agenda.
A
Counselor
Dungy
at
is
thirty
two
point:
eight
seven
and
counselor
Channel.
Thirty,
two
point:
eight
eight,
all
in
favor
puddings
on
the
agenda
opposed
opposed
that
carries
their
on
the
agenda.
Okay,
folks,
I
have
a
emergency
up
to
ten,
do
I
have
to
leave,
I
would
have
councils
and
dodged.
I
spoke
to
both
you
indulgence.
I
want
food.
A
A
D
A
The
owns
DEP
update
on
the
request
of
strengthened
tree
protection,
unfortunately
long
branch.
We
had
that
last
week,
I
circulated
by
my
amendments.
This
would
strengthen
the
enforcement
of
law.
Branch
of
the
motion
should
have
it
there
in
front
of
you
all
in
favor,
opposed
carried
I'm
gonna
hand.
The
chair
to
counter
it
to
Council,
Chris
ante
and
I
have
to
leave
a
hole
through
back
to
my.
A
If
not
counter,
Annunziata
will
chair
the
meeting
and
please
we're
short
on
form,
so
I
think
it's
just
councillor,
croissant,
II
and
councillor
Mammalia
won't
be
here
tonight,
so
please
be
here
and
I
hope
to
be
back.
But
if
thought
counselor
will
chair
the
meeting.
Okay
well
past
the
chair
to
counter
for
sanity.
Moving
on
to
we're
moving
on.
H
A
A
J
B
A
Three,
mr.
speaker
and
this
in
this
situation,
it
is
subject
to
the
alternate
rate
being
it
being
in
a
park.
Land
acquisition,
priority
area
with
the
31
units
at
site,
area
of
7,000
499
at
point
four
hectares
per
300
units.
That
would
be
a
parkland
dedication
of
413
square
metres,
which
is
five
point
five
percent
of
the
site,
which
means
that
the
point
five
portion
stays
within
the
area.
The
five
percent
goes
towards
the
citywide
coffers,
as
per
our
alternate
rate
by
alotta,
which
was
passed
by
council
in
2010.
So.
A
You
mr.
chair,
there's
no
way
of
knowing
that
into
the
actual
appraisal
occurs
and
the
appraisal
happens
around
the
FIR
just
before
the
building
permits,
Pope
old,
so
I'm
not
sure
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
familiar
with
the
real
estate
values
in
the
area.
So
it's
a
five
five
and
a
half
percent
of
them
of
the
value
of
the
property.
The
day
the
building
permits
pulled,
which
is
which
includes
anything
that's
passed
within
the
zoning.
A
A
S
F
A
E
A
E
E
A
That's
got
great
a
great
capacity
to
service
the
area
and
the
amount
of
parkland
that
actually
came
through
this
part
through
this
development
through
section
40
through
this
development.
Given
the
low
density
of
the
development
was
so
small
that
it
would
have
created
a
small
pocket
style
park
which
is
not
in
the
interest
of
parks
to
secure,
given
the
given
the
amount
of
money
that
it
takes
to
maintain
a
Pakistan,
Park
versus
even
any
larger
park.
A
P
A
E
And
I
noticed
in
the
community
consultations.
People
did
raise
they.
You
know
the
notion
that
you
know:
we've
lost
some
green
space.
That's
one
of
that's
one
of
the
notes
in
the
in
the
report,
and
we
went
that
we
at
the
community
meeting
I
was
not
okay
and
that's
you
know,
that's
those
are
just
questions
that
reflect
my
opinion
of
the
loss
of
green
space
I,
because
I
know
if
this
had
occurred
in
my
area,
people
would
have
been.
You
know
very
upset
about
it.
J
B
If
I
were
to
move
a
motion
to
keep
all
of
the
money,
it
would
die
at
Council
because
it
would
break
the
policy,
so
I'm
gonna
do
what
I
can
to
upgrade
the
two
parks
beside
it
and
that's
the
best
I
can
do
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
need
a
motion
for
me
other
than
this
one.
Mr.
chairman,
okay,
so
I
guess
I
would
I
would
I
would
move
staff
recommendations
along
with
this.
So.
D
D
B
If
you
were
to
look
at
the
map,
you'd
see
this
particular
school
that
is
now
going
to
be
semi.
A
semi-detached
development,
which
is
very
consistent
by
the
way
in
the
in
the
community.
I,
wouldn't
accept
anything
bigger
than
that
and
in
right
directly
in
front
of
this
school
there's,
Plunkett
Park
and
then
behind
the
school,
a
boat,
I
guess
300
yards
away,
or
so
there
is
there's
a
there's.
A
park
called
the
Knights
of
Columbus
Park,
both
adjacent.
B
J
B
J
Then
yeah
on
the
amendment
and
then
staff
recommendations
yep
all
right.
All
in
favor
of
council
remedies
amendment
on
favor
opposed
carried
and
now
the
item
is
amended
all
in
favor
opposed
to
carried
all
right.
Next
item
is
item
number
32,
16
request
for
Direction
report,
35
41,
263,
65
and
95
hi,
Park,
Avenue
and
66
and
102
to
116
Pacific,
Avenue
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
rental
housing,
demolition
application.
K
K
This
over
development
is
now
taking
place
within
High
Park
apartment,
neighborhood,
character,
study
area,
but
it's
outside
of
that
secondary
study
because
it
was
undertaken
before
this
study
took
place.
So
in
under
that
scenario,
the
community
got
instead
of
thoroughly
one
stories.
Two
buildings
they've
got
225
stories
buildings
and
instead
of.
K
1,600
people
they
are
receiving
about
thousand
more
people.
The
same
applies
to
natural
heritage,
which
is
about
90
meters,
south
of
this
development,
and
that
scenario
there
were
no
measures
taken
to
mitigate
this
development.
The
hydrologic
features
were
not
part
of
natural
heritage
impact
study
on
informally,
and
there
were
no
measures
are
taken
so
in
in
this
case,
I
am
kind
of
you
know
a
little
bit
leery.
K
E
N
J
Sorry,
counselor
you're
moving
staff
recommendations,
alright,
so
moved
by
Councillor
to
set
on
a
favor
of
staff,
recommendations
opposed
carried
and
next
item
17.
So
next
time
time
is
thirty
two
point:
one
seven
request
for
a
direction
report:
one
eleven
Pacific,
Avenue,
255,
Ben,
Lake,
Avenue
and
sixty-six
open
road
and
again
we
have
link
up
make
a
hover.
J
K
K
The
counselor
said
that
next
week
she
would
support
the
budget
at
pack
for
management.
Part
plan
for
Hyper
I
just
want
to
stress
that
the
management
plan
or
best
management
practices
is
something
what
hi
Park
should
have
for
the
past
years,
because
the
consultant
has
concluded
in
2017
in
the
fall
that
there
is
a
high
level
of
impact
among
all
major
designated
sensitivities,
but
in
terms
of
adding
3,000
people.
Potentially
management
plan
is
a
window
dressing.
It
is
something
what
designated
Park
needs
period
under
Toronto
circumstances,
but
it's
no
substitute
for
making
right
planning
decisions.
K
It
can
only
mitigate
from
here
to
there
and
then
what
follows
very
difficult.
Political
decisions
such
as
reviewing
existing
darks
of
rich
designated
area,
which
actually
happens
to
be
in
designated
area
and
it's
causing
very
high
level
of
degradation
options
such
as
having
no
pets
in
the
park
for
two
hours,
which
is
part
of
our
municipal
code.
Six,
oh
eight
point
thirty-four,
but
very
rarely
used.
As
you
are
aware,
there
are
options
of
having
high
park
as
another
tommy
Thompson
park,
which
means
no
pets
are
limited
hours.
K
J
N
Thank
you
very
much.
Once
again,
I
will
be
supporting
fully
the
directional
report,
which
will
be
sending
city,
legal
and
planning
to
LP.
I.
Do
want
to
just
emphasize
something:
High
Park
does
have
a
management
plan.
We
are
putting
funding
in
to
revise
it.
That's
the
difference.
It's
not
as
if
they're
coming
up
with
a
management
plan.
They've
had
one
for
many
many
years,
but
it
is
being
revised
due
to
the
pressure
we
have
now
north
of
the
park
in
the
apartment
neighborhood.
So
thank
you.
J
G
G
G
J
G
T
T
Afternoon
my
name
is
Tenuta
Sina
I
live
at
17
Hart
Cross,
Road
and
I've
lived
there
with
my
family
for
34
years.
I
appeared
before
you
an
objection
to
both
demolition
permits
for
21
15,
Bloor
West
and
for
19
harcroft
Road,
my
property
abuts,
both
properties.
These
two
properties
are
part
of
a
larger
redevelopment
site
consolidation
at
the
corner
of
harcroft
and
Bloor
West
from
Toronto
buildings
background
report
prepared
for
Council.
You
will
have
read
that
part
of
this
consolidation
has
been
vacant
since
the
1980s.
T
T
Perhaps
all
to
briefly
summarize,
the
objections
are
simply
being
about
premature
demolition
of
two
residences
resulting
in
an
unnecessarily
large
and
unsightly
vacant
lot.
Indeed,
we
do
not
want
a
larger
lot
sitting
vacant
for
who
knows
how
long
ten
years,
twenty
another
30
years
No.
Thank
you,
but,
more
importantly,
we,
the
neighbors
on
harcroft,
Road
and
Olympus
Avenue,
do
not
want
our
residential
neighbourhood
becoming
ever
more
openly
exposed,
indeed,
potentially
remaining
indefinitely
exposed
to
the
intrusive
noise
and
bustle
of
blur
street.
T
Indeed,
nothing
active
as
far
as
a
building,
something
on
the
site
is
with
the
city
for
approval.
Please,
you
are
urged
by
my
wife
myself,
some
of
my
neighbors
to
not
grant
these
to
demolition
applications.
Premature
demolitions,
yes,
unwarranted,
demolitions.
Yes,
indeed,
on
a
go-forward
basis,
your
attention
will
be
well
focused,
examining,
firstly,
the
city's
missing
action
for
vacant
buildings
and,
secondly,
the
city's
inadequate
public
notification
requirements
for
demolition
permit
applications.
T
For
the
first
point,
the
City
of
Toronto
could
perhaps
learn
by
example,
set
by
the
city
of
Hamilton
and
its
registry
of
vacant
buildings
that
cities
registry
related
annual
fee
could
be
a
source
for
offsetting
the
expense
of
toronto
city's
inspection
of
and
enforcement
activities
related
to
vacant
buildings.
For
the
second
point
in
as
regards
the
subject,
demolition
applications,
the
notices
for
the
subject,
applications
were
posted
so
as
to
be
virtually
invisible
to
passers-by
the
posted
notices
for
these
two
properties
were
about
8
in
half
by
14
inches
on
one
residence.
T
The
notice
was
posted,
11
feet,
high
and
56
feet
from
the
sidewalk
and
on
the
other,
the
notice
was
posted,
eight
and
a
half
feet
high
and
thirty
six
and
a
half
feet.
Why,
from
the
sidewalk,
even
the
zoom
on
my
phone
couldn't
get
into
the
application
to
read
the
details
of
the
11-foot
notice,
consider
directing
staff
to
investigate
these
two
policies
areas,
but
today
please
do
not
approve
prematurely
the
subject
to
demolition
permits.
Thank
you.
N
So
I
understand
your
concern
and
I
have
heard
from
quite
a
few
residents
once
site
plan
is
completed
somewhat
once
site
plan
is
completed
if
it
gets
completed
and
a
building
permit
is
going
to
be.
What's
a
word
given
issued,
that's
a
word
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
been
a
long
day.
Residents
would
then
be
okay
with
the
demolition
of
the
two
houses,
because
then
we
know
that
something
is
actually
going
to
be
built.
Is
that
what
you're
telling
me?
Yes.
T
J
T
T
E
T
R
Thank
you,
so
I
certainly
agreed
with
one
of
your
points
that
perhaps
these
houses
act
as
a
noise
barrier
that
these
homes
act
as
a
sound
wall.
So
I
get
you
in
that
I'm,
not
sure
I'd
buy
into
the
notion
that
someone's
paying
big
money
for
these
sites
going
through
the
process,
I'm
gonna
leave
them
bacon
for
30
years.
So
let's
just
just
understand
the
the
condition
of
these
homes,
so
one
of
them
is
vacant.
For
two
and
a
half
years
is
it?
Is
it
derelict
yet
or
is
it?
T
T
The
street
the
view
is
fine.
Okay,
sidewall
that
abuts,
my
sidewalk
to
my
door
is
fine.
The
weeds
are
unsightly,
but
looking
from
the
street,
one
would
not
know
that
the
building
was
empty.
Rodgers
is
going
up
to
the
door
and
knocking
on
the
door
to
seeing
who's
in
there
if
they
want
to
upgrade
for
service.
Even
yesterday,
okay,
great.
D
T
The
ownership
just
changed
within
six
weeks.
Two
months
so
I
haven't
seen
anyone
from
the
new
owners.
We
had
quite
a
detailed
working
group
arrangement
with
two
owners
ago
when
it
was
Maine
and
Maine.
So
there
was
lots
of
discussion,
then,
with
representatives
Trinity
group
who
live
in
the
meantime
didn't
make
any
contact
either
with
me
as
a
immediate
neighbor,
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood,
when
the
same
council
approved
the
rezoning
for
the
subject
property
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
there
was
no
put
in
there.
T
T
Changed
the
fencing
of
the
originally
vacant
property
from
a
board
fence
to
one
of
these
temporary
chain-link
fences
and
has
fabric
cloth
on
it
that
sort
of
stays
fastened
to
the
post
and
because
of
how
its
fastened
to
the
ground
sometimes
blows
over.
It's
currently
fastened
now
to
the
city,
stop
sign
to
keep
it
from
blowing
over,
but.
D
T
J
J
O
Ahead
and
speak
to
and
answer
any
questions
from
an
ownership
perspective
regarding
the
application,
so
we
closed
on
this
property,
well,
the
property
as
a
whole
March
27th
of
this
year
and
as
part
of
our
process
we've
taken
over
the
application.
Obviously,
we've
picked
up
from
where
me
and
me
left
it
we're
working
through
the
notice
of
approval
conditions,
we're
working
in
our
resubmission
and
as
part
of
our
process
and
due
diligence
and
and
wanting
to
put
the
property
in
the
best
position.
We
followed
the
demolition
applications
because
the
homes
have
been
vacant.
O
First,
home
was
vacant
in
2016
and
the
second
home
has
been
vacant.
As
of
January
2018,
we,
the
fencing,
is
a
bit
of
a
mess,
so
we're
really
looking
to
clean
up
the
site.
We
have
a
property
manager
in-house
that
deals
with
all
of
our
properties.
So
we
as
a
part
of
our
process,
and/or
go
forward.
We
want
to
essentially
clear
the
site.
Put
it
in
proper
fencing
deal
with
things
properly,
as
we
move
forward,
complete
the
Nowak
move
onto
building
permit.
O
J
N
N
My
understanding
is
that
demolition
permit
allows
them
to
demolish
a
building.
If
there's
some
contamination
or
if
they
decide
to
do
some
digging,
they
can
do
digging
and
get
a
shoring
permit
without
coming
back
to
us.
So
what
I
think
residents
are
concerned
about
is
that
we
could
end
up
with
a
hole
in
the
ground
and
then
nothing
actually
gets
built.
You.
R
N
N
Site
plan
I
understand
the
site
plan
is
in
I,
understand
it's
not
completed,
who
put
the
site
plan
in
then?
Was
it
main
and
main
which
were
two
owners
ago
or
is
it
the
present
owners
who
took
possession
on
March
27th
of
this
year
through
the
chair
I?
Believe
it
was
me
and
Ameen
okay,
so
the
site
plan
has
been
in
for
quite
a
while.
So
I
plan
generally
takes
what
910
months
from
roughly
not
a
good
question.
N
F
L
N
N
R
D
R
D
The
difference
is
what
is
the
difference
between
hoarding
around
a
site
which
could
be
constructed
in
a
variety
of
ways
versus
what
our
fence
by
law
governs
and
what
I
don't
want
to
sort
of
suggest
through?
My
question
is
that
may
be
an
enhanced
fence
be
built
that
would
block
the
sound
and
then
run
afoul
of
some
other
codes
and
rules?
Is
there
any
flexibility
in
that
I?
Just
I,
don't
know
yeah.
G
So
the
applicant
is
when,
when
he
made
his
reputation,
is
that
he
on
that
he
would
do
number
two
which
would
fence
it
off,
maintain
and
clean
up
debris
which,
which
is
common
right
so
normally
when
these
applications
come
in
I
had
one
in
my
word
this
morning
is
that
it's
not
years
before,
there's
an
application
coming
in,
because
why
would
someone
wanted
them
demolish
a
building
if
the
intent
is
in
there
to
to
rebuild
so
that
normally
that's
not
the
case
right?
That.
R
Would
be
correct?
That's
not
normally.
My
understanding
from
the
the
neighbors
who
did
email
me
in
and
write
in
to
me
was
the
past
history,
because
the
site
had
two
other
buildings
that
had
been
demolished,
and
thirty
years
now
have
gone
by,
and
nothing
has
happened
so
was
like.
Why
would
you
let
two
more
buildings
be
demolished
and
not
knowing
on
the
timing,
but.
N
So
I'm
going
to
be
removing
one
which
is
actually
so
I
refuse
or
of
the
demolition
and
the
reason
I'm
doing
this
is
these
houses
can
come
down
in
a
couple
of
days,
so
I
don't
think
deferring
the
demolition
until
all
the
documents
are
in
place,
the
T's
are
crossed
and
the
I's
are
dotted
is
a
big
problem.
What
I'm
hearing
from
residents
and
I
understand
they've
been
sitting
looking
at
this
vacant
lot
for
over
30
years,
some
owners
have
maintained
it.
Some
owners
haven't
when
we
did
have
hoarding
around
it.
N
For
several
years,
I
was
constantly
calling
in
graffiti.
So
in
some
respects,
the
wire
fencing
is
better,
but
the
fabric
is
flapping
in
the
wind
and
it
does
come
down
every
now
and
then
I
do
believe
the
resident
who
spoke
today,
even
though
it's
a
vacant
house
and
it's
been
vacant
since
2018,
it
does
give
them
a
bit
of
a
buffer.
It
does
give
them
a
buffer
to
what
goes
on
on
Bloor
Street
and
once
as
I
say,
the
permits
are
in
place
and
site
plan
is
complete.
I
have
no
problem.
N
Approving
demolition,
then
I,
really
don't
I.
Wouldn't
mind
if
they
we
did
the
place
right
now,
but
on
the
other
hand,
it
actually
looks
quite
pretty
with
some
of
the
natural
flowers
versus
the
ugly
brown
which
is
uneven
and
has
been
left
derelict
for
about
thirty
years,
so
that
is
where
I
am
coming
from.
I
do
apologize
and
some
to
Trinity
I
did
try
to
reach
you
yesterday
to
tell
you
what
I
was
doing
I
know
we
have
met
and
I
do
believe
that
you
will
maintain
this
property
as
it.
J
G
Counselor
just
said
I'm,
as
you
know,
I've
been
very
supportive
of
the
local
councillor
and
support
you
on
Eddie
every
issue,
but
on
this
particular
issue.
Well,
my
question
to
you
is
a
few
months
ago
there
was
an
application
for
a
demolition
permit
on
Dundas,
just
east
of
Jane
Street,
and
you
supported
to
fence
it
off
and
I
asked
the
similar
question
to
fence
so
I'm
just
wondering
that
what
what
makes
this
application
different
than
the
one
on
Dundas
actually.
N
N
The
one
on
Dundas,
because
it
was
a
similar
thing
where
I
had
learned
they
get
a
demolition
permit,
they
could
come
and
excavate
because
they
did
find.
There
was
some
contamination
in
my
land
and
therefore
they
could
also
do
the
shoring.
That's
why
I
learnt
all
those
processes
can
go
after
demolition,
alright,.
E
Okay,
listen,
you
know
what
I
normally
could
care
less
about
demolition
permits,
but
I
did
notice.
Mr.
lying
in
the
audience,
I've
had
dealings
with
mr.
lang
there,
the
owner
of
the
Richer
square,
Plaza
and
I,
know
that
if
he
says
he
will
clean
up
the
site
and
make
it
look
right,
then
I
know
that
he
is
a
man
of
his
word
and
he
will
do
that
so
I
think
in
the
interest
of
the
overall
neighbourhood.
That
would
probably
be
a
better
solution.
E
J
J
J
Motion
on
all
in
favor
of
so
we're
at
30
to
30
all
in
favor
of
a
demolition
opposed
of
denial,
demolition,
yeah
opposed
carried
all
right.
So
the
next
item
is
30
2.15
report,
its
sorry
30
to
59
parking
regulation,
amendments,
Norby
crescent
and
Sun
Road
Drive.
We
have
one
speaker,
Roberto
Burton,
sir.
Q
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
community
residents,
there
was
a
request
from
the
principal
of
the
school
to
have
to
adjacent
streets.
Norbi,
Crescent
and
Sun
row
Drive
opened
up
from
no
parking
to
allow
a
maximum
of
ten
minute
window.
Unfortunately,
no
community
consultation
was
was
sought
at
that
time
by
the
principal.
Q
The
counselor
was
brought
in
and
asked
for
a
brief
report
from
the
from
from
from
the
city
staff
and-
and
it
was
put
forward
to
you
to
have
to
have
the
no
parking
sections
of
those
streets
which
the
local
residents
fought
hard
to
to
delineate
and
to
acquire
many
years
ago.
The
impact
the
traffic
in
the
morning
and
I
am
a
local
resident
as
well.
I
live
on
twenty-four
Brooktree
Crescent,
just
just
around
the
corner.
From
that
the
the
negative
impacts
from
from
adding
more
parking
will
just
exasperate
the
problem.
Q
We
are
working
very
very
diligently
with
the
with
the
school
I'm.
Actually,
the
co-chair,
and
also
the
one
of
the
Friday
Kissin
ride
attendants
to
help
alleviate
that
problem.
So
we're
working
we're
working
within
the
school
to
manage
that
so
I
have
been
in
contact
with
the
counselor
and
he
has
reached
out
to
the
community
and
heard
those
voices.
Q
Unfortunately,
we
had
not
been
able
to
connect,
so
the
community
had
jotted
down
approximately
52
names
over
this
very
short
weekend,
just
to
voice
their
opinions
that
they
would
like
the
the
matter
of
the
parking
recommendation
before
you
reject
it
not
deferred
and
no
parking
signs
be
erected
on
nor
be
as
as
they
should
have
been,
and
they
are
currently
lacking,
as
well
as
the
component
on
Sun
row
be
be
refused.
The
the
petition
I
can
I
can
leave
with
you.
Q
It
has
the
majority,
if
not
almost
every
single
person
of
the
age
of
majority
signed
from
Norby
Crescent
voicing
that
as
well
as
the
homes
adjacent
to
the
impacted
section
on
Sun
row.
So
I'd
like
to
present
that
as
required,
but
again
in
speaking
with
the
counselor
I,
think
he's
heard
those
voices
and
has
the
feeling
that
part
of
our
earlier
conversation.
We
want
to
partner
together
to
work
to
a
better
solution
down
the
road
and
reject
that.
So
that's
that's.
What
I
have
right
now.
D
D
E
This
this
this
this
so
I,
know
I,
have
the
rapt
attention
of
the
majority
of
counsel
here,
and
this
actually
was
a
situation
where
I
was
working
with
transportation
services
to
resolve
a
problem,
and
it
turns
out
it
looked
like
we're
going
to
exacerbate
a
problem.
So
I'm
gonna
move
just
receipt
of
this
information
receipt
of
the
report
and
we're
not
going
to
implement
the
ten
minute
parking
I'd
be
happy
to
explain
it
to
you.
You
know
at
length,
but
you
know
it's
been
a
long
day
and
it's
really
not
that
interesting.
All.
D
E
E
G
D
D
D
C
Did
ask
my
questions
to
staff
early
this
morning,
I'm
going
to
move
that
application
be
approved
and
one
of
the
concerns
from
the
transportation
division
I
mean
from
the
municipal
assistance
standards
is
their
accessibility
aspect
as
it
relates
to
the
sidewalk
now,
as
you
can
see
in
them
in
the
drawings.
There
are
some
concrete
bowlers
that
we
install
some
time
ago
there
because
of
the
illegal
parking.
So
are
we
asking
transportation
division
to
remove
us
and
I
will
resolve
the
accessibility
aspect
at
that
municipal
I
sensing?
What
concern
wait,
apart
from
that?
C
You
see
a
beautiful
corner
with
a
great
blanket
that
can
be
used
for
a
period
and
location
and
that
will
help
to
create
and
something
vibrant
within
that
corner
and
without
impeding
with
pedestrian
traffic,
and
that's
the
something
that
the
community
would
love
to
that.
So
that's
what
I'm,
moving
and
I
hope
I
get
gets
from
members
of
council
Thank
You.
Mr.
chairman.
D
C
C
J
D
J
D
D
D
E
J
Mccarran
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I
mean
we're
talking
about
number
of
my
next
motion
for
asks
for
a
number
70
asks
for
a
poll
on
speed
humps
on
victim
Avenue
Bickman
11
has
a
has
a
school
on
the
street
yeah
I'm
speaking
on
69,
asking
that
the
speed
limits
be
reduced
on
those
streets
because
the
majority
of
them
have
schools
on
them.
E
A
lot
of
schools
in
Toronto
we
could
make
every
I
didn't
come
down
here
to
make
friends.
You
know,
I
think
this
is
ridiculous
and
I'm
not
going
to
support
it.
Just
as
I
said,
as
I
said,
with
respect
to
councillor
do
sets
and
council
nuns
II
Addison
it's
an
election
year.
That's
what
we're
doing
and
we
just
we
just
we
do.
It-
has
everything
to
do
with
the
election.
D
D
Thank
you.
The
motion
is
in
order.
It's
before
us
I
think
I
think
it's
time
for
a
vote.
All
of
those
does
anyone
want
it
recorded?
No,
all
those
in
favor
anyone
opposed
that's
carried
off
to
ey
32.7
T
speed
humps
on
Bicknell
Avenue
from
Rogers
Road
to
Eglinton
Avenue
West.
Are
there
any
questions
of
staff
on
this
matter?
J
D
D
G
C
C
D
R
D
R
G
D
C
H
D
C
D
The
amendments
on
the
screen
waived
the
polling
all
of
those
in
favor
all
of
those
opposed,
and
that
carries
you
why
30
2.75
installation
of
speed
humps
on
Pelham
Avenue
between
Oxbridge
Avenue
and
Lawton
Avenue,
any
questions
of
staff
on
this
item.
Seeing
none
councillor
Palacio
the
floor
is
yours.
C
D
E
E
E
C
D
R
D
T
D
C
You,
mr.
chairman,
in
terms
of
them
warrants
the
same
thing
we
have
at
the
intersection
of
Rogers
and
chambers,
which
is
two
blocks
away
from
there.
Two
eleven
three
schools
at
this
location.
We
have
elementary
schools
very
close
by
as
well
and
when
it
comes
to
incidents
or
accidents,
especially
when
it
relates
to
seniors
and
children
more
for
health
and
safety.
So
that's
a
humble
request.
City
start
looking
to
it
and
hopefully
that's
going
to
be
done.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
G
Like
to
move
it
because
this
motion
actually
is
part
of
councillor
ma'am
lady's
word
in
my
ward
and
and
we
work
together
on
this,
this
is
an
application
for
a
liquor
license
which
is
technically
in
councilor
man,
lady's
ward,
and
we
we
have
some
serious
issues
on
this
liquor.
License
application,
they've
also
filed
for
a
noise
exemption
and
we've
informed
MLS
that
we
have
issues
with
that.
So
I,
the
recommendation
from
councilor
m'lady
Thank.
M
B
B
G
B
G
D
G
D
Counselor
do
set
Sano
and
counselor
holidays
and
no
and
stay
tuned
for
counsel.
On
that
one
uy.
Thirty
two
point:
88
I
believe
this
is
our
last
item,
madam
Clerk.
Yes,
this
is
from
counselors
at
Xian.
Oh,
the
recommendation
is
topical:
York
Community
Council,
rescind
the
existing
parking
prohibition,
in
effect
at
all
times
on
the
east
side
of
Dayton
Avenue
between
the
first
lane
ways
south
of
the
Queensway
in
st.
Clair
West.
Any
questions
of
staff
speak
on
the
item.
Counselor
to
channel.
R
Thank
You
chair
I'm,
hoping
that
the
Community
Council
can
support
the
motion.
We
have.
We
have
a
parking
situation
in
that
area.
There's
lots
of
restaurants
that
are
looking
for
some
assistance
with
parking
and
Dayton
Avenue
is
a
logical
choice,
so
I'm
hoping
everyone
can
support
this.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
J
You,
mr.
chairman,
that
the
topical
York
Community
Council
passed
and
declare
as
bylaws
bill;
seven.
Eight
sorry
Bill's,
eight
five,
three:
two:
eight
six:
seven:
nine:
three:
five:
nine
six:
nine,
two:
nine
seven,
two
and
nine
eight
two,
two
nine
eight
three
prepared
for
the
July
4th
2018
meeting
thirty-two
of
the
community
council
shall.