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Etobicoke York Community Council, meeting 32, July 4, 2018 - Part 3 of 3
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0:00:02 - Meeting Resume
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
do
have
a
quorum
well,
we
need
to
do
perform.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
to
the
members
of
the
public
we're
here
this
evening
to
discuss
one
item:
ey
thirty,
two
point:
fourteen
request
for
Direction
report
for
three
thousand
five
Bloor
Street
West
and
fourteen
Humber
Vale
boulevard
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment.
Now
we
have
two:
we
do
have
two
deputies
that
are
on
the
list
to
speak.
If
there's
anybody
else,
that's
not
on
the
list
and
they
would
like
to
speak.
A
B
You
and
I
wish
to
thank
the
counselors
and
their
staff
for
making
their
time
available
to
consider
this
important
matter.
The
current
applicant
application
is
a
blatant,
an
outrageous
violation
of
the
in
places
only
in
bylaw
941
2003.
This
bylaw
was
established
in
the
city
of
Toronto's
Official
Plan.
However,
the
proposed
building
as
designed
will
be
massively
over
built
at
150%.
Compared
to
what
is
allowed.
The
applicant
is
claiming
the
mid-rise
guideline
should
represent
yep
the
applicable
legal
guidance.
However,
it
is
well
recognized.
Mid-Rise
guidelines
specifically
exclude
this
area
of
Bloor
Street.
B
The
mid-rise
guidelines
in
its
formation
did
not
include
any
area
resident
input
during
the
process
of
examination
study.
Its
very
wording
outlaws
its
applicability
to
the
site.
To
quote
the
mid-rise
guideline
document,
avenues
that
have
had
an
avenue
study
and
are
subject
to
a
city
by
law
are
excluded
from
the
mid-rise
guidelines.
This
condition
applies
to
Bloor,
Street,
Prince,
Edward,
Mimico,
Creek,
approval
of
this
subject.
B
Applicants
plans
would
be
would
be
assessed
as
a
violation
and
a
nullification
of
the
in
place
by
law.
If
approved,
the
building
will
establish
a
precedent
that
will
be
quickly
capitalized
upon
by
many
developers
that
are
holding
properties
onblur
in
the
Kings
way.
I
have
described
the
by
log
legalities
and
should
be
a
real
nuisance
to
developers
in
their
striving
of
to
generate
excessive
and
unfair
profits.
But
why
are
residents
really
opposed
to
this
development?
B
Blur
Kings
way
is
a
neighborhood
of
thousands
walking
daily
to
shop
from
as
far
as
weigh
as
three
or
four
kilometres
many
more
driving
to
access
the
many
services
provided.
This
is
the
nature
of
a
mixed-use
Avenue
that
planning
documents
strive
for
I
quote
from
the
provincial
policy
statement,
which
includes
policies
on
key
issues
that
affect
communities.
Intensification
development
should
build
strong,
sustainable
and
resilient
communities
that
enhance
health
and
social
well-being
and
encourage
a
sense
of
place
in
communities
by
promoting
well-designed
built
form
by
by
conserving
features
that
define
local
character.
B
B
This
building,
with
its
50%
greater
FSI
density
and
40%,
higher
higher
height,
will
dwarf
its
next
door
neighbor
and
frankly,
make
both
look
out
of
place
on
Bloor
Street
also,
it
is
on
the
corner
of
a
residential
street,
but
his
final
built
design
violates
the
angular
setbacks
that
are
both
that
are
required
in
both
bylaw
941
in
the
required
and
required
in
mid-rise
guidelines.
These
setbacks
are
enforced
to
help
the
building
to
fit
harmoniously
into
the
community.
B
B
Finally,
the
distributed
plans
are
silent
on
sidewalk
width,
provided
this
is
critical,
especially
due
to
the
error
at
three
thousand
nine
blurry
Street
built
before
the
blur
Kingsway
by
law.
The
blur
Street
sidewalk
Bloor
Street
sidewalks
range
from
seven
meters
at
Grandview,
three
blocks
east
to
two
point:
one
five
meters
at
three
thousand
and
nine
blurs
Bloor
Street
next
door.
Naturally,
the
community
requires
that
positive
pass
designs.
The
seven
meters
be
carried
forward
in
errors
of
the
past
that
2.15
be
ignored.
B
The
proposed
building
overhangs
the
sidewalk
by
what
appears
to
be
two
meters.
The
building
goes
straight
up
from
there.
This
amplifies
the
perception
of
Heights
to
all
who
pass
by
the
sidewalk
users
will
be
enclosed
by
the
overhang,
and
this
overhang
violates
even
the
mid-rise
guidelines
in
the
develop
that
the
developer
wants
to
use
on
the
residential
Humber
Vale
side.
The
building
mass
is
a
scant
0.14
meters
from
the
property
line.
B
Homeowners
cannot
do
anything
like
this
when
there's
on
their
property
and
on
top
of
that,
the
building
design
has
a
second-story
balcony
extending
well
past
the
property
line.
The
building
is
massive:
its
design
amplifies
its
bulk
for
over
at
eight
decades,
every
multi-story
residential
building
built
on
Bloor
Street
from
Humber
to
the
Mimico
Creek
have
all,
except
for
one,
then
well
setback
from
the
sidewalk
with
amp,
with
ample.
B
A
C
C
D
D
I
ask
council
to
consider
that
planting
trees
that
will
be
trees
that
will
become
substantial
in
maturity
along
the
entirety
of
the
blur
Street
and
Humber
Ville
sidewalk
impacted
by
the
development,
will
help
in
reducing
the
negative
impact
of
the
development
and
I'm.
Assuming
if
there
is
a
development,
it'll
be
a
scaled-down
development.
D
We
know
that
trees
are
important.
We
all
know
this
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
They
moderate
moderate
air
temperature
and
reduce
pollution,
but
there
is
now
research
data
suggesting
that
trees.
In
particular,
the
extent
of
tree
cover
may
actually
improve
one's
health
and
actually
reduce
mortality
trees.
Also,
in
my
opinion,
will
help
provide
a
sense
of
space.
Sorry,
a
sense
of
place,
which
is
the
specific
aim
of
one
of
the
specific
aims
of
the
Planning
Act,
the
developer.
D
In
fact,
in
their
november
9
2017
submission
in
facts
supports
a
best
practice
performance
standard
that
includes
trees
and
I
quote.
Sidewalks
are
wide
enough
to
include
and
support
trees
and
I.
Wonder
if
that's
a
true
statement
along
the
blur
Street
and
Humber
Ville
sidewalk
I
hope
that
is
a
true
statement,
so
I
simply
ask
that
the
developer
deliver
on
that
statement.
Thank
you.
D
E
E
D
E
D
E
You're
going
to
want
the
trees
to
live
and
survive
and
flourish
and
be
bigger,
you
need
to
you,
can't
just
put
them
in
a
piece
of
soil.
You've
got
to
actually
do
these
silver
cells
underground,
which
allows
a
much
more
room
to
grow
room
to
keep
the
soil.
So
if
you
haven't
spoken
to
the
owner-
and
you
haven't-
spoke
to
your
local
councillor,
I
recommend
you
do
and
ask
for
that.
Whatever
gets
built,
you
want
trees.
My.
D
F
G
G
H
D
D
G
D
I
I
However,
the
landowners
and
our
consulting
team
are
absolutely
open
to
continuing
discussions
with
council
juciano,
the
rest
of
Community
Council
of
the
City
of
Toronto
staff
and
the
community
throughout
this
process,
because
we're
very
interested
to
see
what
the
community
has
to
say.
We
do
have
some
members
of
our
consulting
team
here
tonight.
If
we
welcome
any
questions
that
you
may
have
Thank.
I
E
E
E
I
I
I
H
E
I
H
A
You
are
there
any
further
questions.
Actually
I
have
a
question.
So
in
your
deputation,
you
mentioned
that
you
would
like
to
continue
to
work
with
the
city,
local
councillor
and
the
residents
to
address
your
concerns,
so
it
seems
like
they're
there.
Their
big
concern
is
the
the
height.
So
would
you
be
willing
to
reduce
the
height
well.
I
I
can't
say
for
sure
whether
we'd
be
willing
to
reduce
the
height,
but
we
would
like
to
sit
down
work
through
the
process,
because
this
application
was
appealed.
We
didn't
have
a
chance
to
have
a
community
and
for
me,
a
formal
community
information
meeting.
We
would
like
to
continue
discussions
and
and
are
very
interested
in
hearing
what
the
community
has
to
say.
Yeah.
A
H
J
J
I
did
actually
write
to
you
and
you
I
think
you
have
my
email
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Thompson
logic,
Community
Association,
that's
one
of
the
small
community
associations
in
this
area
that
runs
parallel
along
law
Street.
The
reason
that
we
wrote
was
that
we
feel
that
this
area
is
very
well
served
by
something
that
you've
heard
referred
to
as
the
blo
Kingsway
urban
design
guidelines
and
not
just
guidelines,
but
also
the
accompanying
by
law
that
governs
this
area
as
opposed
to
what
was
implied
a
few
minutes
ago.
J
The
midrange
guidelines,
this
area
was
deliberately
I'll,
say
not
ignored
and
I'm,
probably
not
using
the
right
words,
but
it
was.
It
was
when
the
midrange
guidelines
came
in.
It
was
identified
as
one
of
those
areas
that
already
had
a
pre-existing
detailed
study
where
they'd
been
a
lot
of
information
shared
between
council
planners
consultants
and
residents,
and
as
a
result
of
that,
the
pre-existing
bylaw
was
was
in
place
when
the
when
the
midrange
guidelines
came
in.
J
J
Maybe
a
six
story
building
or
something
that's
less
than
eight
and
and
that
really
gets
to
the
nub
of
the
whole
thing,
because
the
the
existing
bylaw
outside
of
the
midrange
guidelines
provides
for
six
storey
buildings
up
to
18
meters,
that
type
of
development
harmonizes
and
and
meets
the
the
residential
area
with
a
lot
less
impact
frankly
and
violence
than
an
age
or
a
nine
story.
Building
that
goes
up.
J
27
meters
plus
mechanical
and
I
hope
that
maybe
answers
a
question
that
that
popped
up
earlier,
but
it
is
that
type
of
I,
don't
think
it's
a
subtle
difference,
I
think
it's
a
massive
difference
to
be
quite
honest,
and-
and
that
was
why
my
association
asked
me
to
write
and
then
come
along
and
and
speak
to
you
this
evening.
I
don't
want
to
read
what
I
wrote.
You've
already
seen
it
as
much
as
anything
coming
tonight.
Is
your
opportunity
saying:
what
do
you
mean
why
you
said
that?
J
K
You
for
speaking
to
us
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you,
you
didn't
bring
it
up
at
parking,
so
one
of
the
earlier
speakers
talked
about.
You
know
the
importance
of
parking,
the
area,
so
people
come
and
visit
and
use
the
different
or
visit
the
different
shops
and
say
I'm,
one
of
them.
You
know
we
go
down
to
eat
I'm,
just
going
to
church
there
once
in
a
while
I
guess
Mike.
K
My
question
is
my
concern
is:
is
throughout
this
process,
sometimes
there's
a
temptation
to
relax
on
the
parking
because
you're
right
next
to
a
subway
station
and
that's
logical,
but
perhaps
I
would
put
to
you.
Do
you
have
a
view
on
this,
because
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
adequate
parking
and
it
seems
that
everybody's
there
on
a
Friday
night,
including
the
visitors
to
the
condo
and
there's
your
association
of
a
view
on
that?
Do
you
want
to
encourage
parking,
or
do
you
think
it's
something
you
can
slip
on
this
well.
J
You
know,
you're,
looking
at
adopting
a
report
from
staff
and
really
that
was
the
only
sort
of
thing
that
I
I
wanted
to
put
before
you,
and
that
was
my
my
own
II
sort
of
ask
of
you
this
evening,
because
then
I
think
that
has
the
potential
to
open
a
much
more
realistic
dialogue,
because
for
one
thing
the
developer
knows
that
council
is
serious
about
taking
a
position.
Should
they
just
want
to
go
ahead
with
the
building
as
planned
and
appeal
to
the
to
the
l-pad.
J
But
to
answer
the
question
about
parking
parking
is
an
issue
in
our
area
on
my
particular
street.
We
have
parking
every
evening,
it's
very,
very
popular,
because
people
go
to
the
bars
and
to
the
restaurants
on
blustery.
It's
great
I
mean
it.
Doesn't
it
doesn't
bother
me
at
all
people?
Don't
you
don't
block
the
sidewalk?
Sorry,
we
don't
have
sidewalks,
they
don't
block
the
driveways,
so
it
sort
of
works.
J
Okay,
I
am
concerned
when
condominiums,
though,
use
the
the
argument
that,
just
because
we're
by
the
subway
people
don't
come
and
buy
in
our
apartments
and
have
cars
I,
don't
think
that
in
reality
is
is
proving
to
to
work
out
and
therefore,
where
the
city
does
have
requirements
for
parking,
I
think
those
requirements
are
in
fact
met
and
and
do
need
to
be
met
by
developers.
If
that
answers
you
quite.
K
Well,
I'm,
to
be
frank,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
you
thinking
about
the
next
steps,
because
this
is
the
easy
part.
The
hard
part
is
coming
up
right,
I'm
trying
to
deal
with
this
at
the
l-pad,
but
I
guess
my
other
question
might
be.
Is
you
know,
has
your
association
formed
a
view
whether
or
not
they
support
the
idea
of
the
city
being
the
ones
to
supplement
parking
needs
in
public
space?
K
And
you
weren't
here
for
the
benefit
of
the
council
meeting
earlier
today,
but
some
members
of
council
moved
motions
with
in
association
with
element
with
with
different
applications
that
would
prohibit
the
new
residents
from
seeking
on
street
parking,
because
we
were
worried
that
you
know
we
were
a
little
thin
on
the
parking
spaces
and
there
were
this
expectations.
He
hadn't
dumped
the
cars
on
the
street
and
I
just
wondered
if
the
Association
had
a
view
for
that
and
if
not
maybe
it's
something
you
would
think
about
over
time.
Yeah.
J
I
mean
we
have
tried
to,
for
example,
the
the
Catholic
Church
at
the
top
of
our
street
at
one
point,
seemed
to
just
have
parishioners
coming
willy-nilly
and
sort
of
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
The
the
association
did
take
a
position
on
that,
but
the
position
was:
let's
go
and
have
a
conversation
with
the
Monsignor
and
we
did
and
and
quite
frankly
it
was
just
a
question
of
saying:
hey
everybody.
J
J
That's
in
that
stretch.
It's
not
it's
not
going
to
make
it
wonderful,
and
it's
not
really
going
to
solve
the
problem,
because
Harper
doesn't
either
way,
isn't
isn't
going
to
be
a
big
thing.
Strangely
enough,
the
Toronto
parking
authority
has
since
bought
that
property
for
over
a
million
dollars
and
despite
the
shortage
of
housing
in
Toronto,
does
plan
to
go
ahead
and
demolish
that
that
bungalow,
so
does
that
bother
people
absolutely
but
I?
Think
that's
well.
J
J
J
Be
well,
I
would
say:
they're
not
really
generally
were
the
people
that
have
signed
up
and
have
the
benefit
of
getting
the
newsletters
from
the
from
the
local
councillor.
You
know,
do
have
the
the
the
general
details
of
it,
but
the
fact
that
we
haven't
had
the
the
opportunity
of
a
public
meeting
and
yeah
the
developer
seems
to
have
jumped
ahead
to
get
in
the
OMB
elpac.
You
sort.
G
J
G
J
I
mean
we
haven't,
because
we
we
did
think
that,
even
though
they
have
taken
the
step
that
they
have
taken,
that
there
may
be
an
opportunity
still
to
have
this
public
meeting
that
was
said
to
earlier
yeah,
and
you
know
now,
because
it's
an
election
year
it
seems
to
be
a
little
fuzzy,
whether
it
can
happen
or
if
it's
appropriate,
for
it
to
happen
and
you'd
know
the
answer
to
that
one
better
than
me.
I.
G
G
J
Yeah
I
mean
it
looks
like
an
awfully
small
amount
of
space
and
and
that
notion
of
having
retail
on
the
ground
floor
on
our
avenues
to
me
makes
all
of
us.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
mean
I
have
been
exceptions
to
that.
You
mentioned
the
Montgomery
building.
When
you
were
talking
about
the
height.
You
know
that
was
an
example
were
in.
J
G
A
Just
I
just
have
a
question
so
being
that
the
applicant
has
appealed
in
so
the
community
has
not
had
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
application.
There's
been
no
community
meetings,
so
if
there
was,
there
would
be
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
address
all
these
specific
issues
and
correct
I
I.
J
J
H
C
Is
being
proposed,
but
I
noticed
that
the
report,
the
directions
report,
doesn't
really
have
a
draft
zoning
bylaw
attached
to
it,
that
is
to
say
it
doesn't
really
tell
us
what
it
is
that
the
applicant
is
actually
seeking.
I
do
note
also,
so
this
is
my
question
you're
aware
that
the
notwithstanding
that
the
applicant
has
appealed
to
the
OMB
there
is
a
pre
hearing
set
for
September.
C
Pre-Hearing
is
not
really
a
full-blown
hearing.
It's
an
opportunity
for
people
to
sort
of
establish
some
of
the
concerns
the
community
to
establish
the
concerns
that
they
have
with
the
application
and
whatnot
before
an
actual
hearing
is
scheduled.
So
there
is
some
opportunity
for
dialogue
at
the
OMB.
It
would
be
useful
if
you,
through
the
local
counselor,
initiated
the
opportunity
for
dialogue
between
now
and
September
and
and.
J
That's
certainly
something
that
and
thank
you
for
making
is
aware
of
that.
I
personally
wasn't
aware
of
that.
I
I
have
been
to
an
OMB
pre
hearing.
Our
association
actually
was
one
of
the
the
groups.
Although
we
weren't
named
as
a
party,
we
did
go
along
and
speak
at
the
development
at
2915
bla
street,
which
benefited
if
you
like,
from
the
same
type
of
support
both
from
Council
and
also
from
from
legal
and
planning
staff
in
in
that
that
application
was
in
fact,
appealed.
J
Sorry
not
appealed
but
but
opposed
at
the
at
the
OMB.
So
yes,
I
mean
individually
I.
Think
we
really
focused
on
the
fact
that
staff
had
made
a
similar
request
for
direction
at
this
meeting
and
that's
why,
when
I
wrote
that
that
we
hoped
that
you
would
in
fact
agree
with
that,
because
I
think
that's
an
extremely
important
step,
so
that
associations
are
in
fact
supported
by
the
counsel
and
advice
versa.
I
mean
it's
a
two-way
street
right.
J
A
L
This
is
spontaneous,
I
wasn't
planning
on
speaking
today.
My
name
is
Phyllis
Terran
I
live
at
34,
Bermuda
Avenue.
You
mentioned
about
parking
and
I.
That's
what
compelled
me
to
speak.
We
have
a
very
serious
issue
in
the
Kings
way
about
parking.
My
husband
has
a
business
in
the
Kings
way
and
he
has
told
me
several
times.
Patients
have
called
at
the
last
minute
and
said:
I've
been
driving
around
the
block.
I
can't
find
a
place
to
park
and
they've
cancelled.
At
the
last
moment,
I
went
to
the
various
area.
L
Businesses
I
went
to
ten
businesses
and
I
interviewed
people
and
I
asked.
Are
you
having
a
problem
with
parking
and
every
single
business
I
spoke
to
said?
Yes,
they
said
business
is
down
this
year,
15
to
20
percent,
and
it's
because
just
during
the
week
what
has
happened?
Is
they
closed?
Some
kind
of
parking
at
Islington
subway
to
build
a
high-rise
I
understand,
is
that
true
and
anyways
they
say
what
has
happened
is
that
people
drive
from
Mississauga
now
to
Royal
York.
They
you
think
they
take
the
subway
downtown.
L
L
Another
problem
is
that
you
know,
in
that
stretch,
2915
Lord
they're,
going
to
be
built
in
there's
a
proposed
condominium.
If
that's
before
the
OMB
right
now.
Well,
behind
some
of
those
buildings,
there
is
parking.
My
husband
in
the
building
that
my
husband
is
in.
There
is
parking,
but
we're
gonna
eliminate
that
parking,
because
I'm
sure
they'll
eliminate
it,
because
if
the
city
just
won't,
let
them
park
there,
and
so
the
merchants
who
use
that
parking
say.
Where
will
we
park
there's
no
place?
L
So
it
is
a
serious
problem
and
I.
That's
all
I
want
to
talk
about
right.
It's
this
moment.
I
am
disappointed
that
we
didn't
have
a
community
meeting,
because
we
certainly
would
have
gotten
people
out
and
people
would
have
come
to
the
meeting
to
discuss
all
their
concerns.
We
have
a
lot
of
concerns.
One
of
them
is
transportation.
Traffic
in
our
area
actually
for
29
15
Glor
traffic
has
not
come
forward
and
told
us
how
they're
gonna
handle
the
traffic
for
our
area,
and
we
have
many
serious
problems
and
concerns.
L
A
M
My
name
is
Joe
Oh,
Josephine,
dieter's
and
I.
Actually,
don't
live
right
in
the
area.
I
live
on
Old
Mill
Terrace
near
the
old
mill.
One
thing
I
find
about
this
whole
application.
Right
now
was
the
arrogance
sorry
for
saying
so
of
the
applicant.
Over
a
year
ago,
before
there
was
even
a
sign
about
the
proposed
development,
I
was
told
by
someone
on
site
I,
don't
weigh
the
owner
or
manager.
We
won't
be
doing
anything
or
going
straight
to
the
OMB.
M
So
to
me
that
already
says
something
about
the
applicant
they're
not
really
interested
in
working
with
the
community.
If
they've
excluded
us
from
anybody
any
meetings
with
them,
so
I'm
not
holding
a
lot
of
water
on
the
fact
that
would
they
be
willing
to
talk
to
us.
I
agree
with
this
woman
about
the
parking
I
I
Drive
up
into
the
area,
I
walk
and
I
Drive.
They
parking
him
behind.
The
retail
stores
is
usually
full
by
9:00
o'clock.
9:30,
it's
difficult
at
certain
times
a
day
to
get
parking.
M
I
live
on
Old,
Mill
Terrace,
it's
a
crescent-shaped
street
in
and
out
of
Bloor
Street,
and
often
when
I'm
trying
to
get
out
of
my
street
I
have
to
wait
for
the
light
to
change
at
Old
Mill,
which
is
now
called
Old.
Mill
Trail.
It
used
to
be
Humber
in
order
for
the
traffic
to
stop
that
I
can
pull
for
because
they
now
have
assigned
each
and
the
street
don't
block
intersection
or
whatever
don't
block
the
entrance.
I
pull
forward.
M
Cars
are
stopping,
but
what's
happening
is
there
is
a
yellow
line
with
stripes
that
people
are
not
supposed
to
use
as
a
lane
way
to
get
into
the
turning
lane
to
go
in
front
of
a
well
subway
and
more
times
than
not
I
pull
out.
The
cars
are
stopped
and
I
pull
out
and
there's
someone
coming
right
down
the
yellow
lines.
I've
almost
been
broadside
a
few
times.
M
It's
scary,
I
actually
talked
to
someone
from
city
traffic
and
would
be
very
nice
to
return
my
call
right
away,
and
essentially
he
said
because
I
thought
well:
maybe
they
couldn't
put
posts
along
there
to
stop
them
from
driving
there,
but
they
can't
because
there's
driveways
in
front
of
there,
so
they
couldn't
get
in
a
note.
So
when
he
essentially
told
me
if
the
cars
stopped
for
me
and
I
pull
out
to
get
onto
the
street-
and
someone
runs
into
me-
it's
my
fault,
so
doesn't
give
me
a
good
feeling.
M
The
traffic
in
the
area
that
I
know
was
a
big
difference.
In
forty
years
ago
it's
progressed
whatever
it's
incredible:
they
speed
down
dot,
they
come
down
the
hill
by
the
subway
they
race
to
go
through
the
lights
at
the
old
mill
and
they
carry
on
often
it's
nonstop
traffic.
So
my
concern
is
traffic.
My
concern
is
the
fact
I.
Don't
really
believe
that
the
applicant
really
wants
to
work
with
the
they
would
have
done
a
meeting
to
start
with.
M
M
It's
to
me
to
go
above
what
you're
technically
allowed
is
pure
greed
on
the
developer
site.
You
can
sell
a
building
and
do
well
at
six
floors,
but
it's
all
about
money
and
I
think
at
some
point
in
time
we
have
to
look
at
the
people
who
live
in
the
community
and
not
what
the
developer
makes
and
what
they
walk
away
with,
but
what
they
leave
behind.
Thank
you.
A
F
You,
chair
and
yes-
and
the
question
is
with
respect
to
obviously
the
concerns.
We've
heard
that
there
is
no
community
meeting.
The
original
report
had
language
about
a
meeting
and
then,
of
course
it
was
appealed.
So,
given
the
rules
with
an
election
season
upon
us,
would
Planning
be
able
to
hold
a
meeting
between
now
and,
let's
say
the
end
of
September,
where
the
applicant
could
hear
the
concerns
of
the
local
community
and,
of
course,
I
could
attend
not
an
official
capacity
as
a
councillor,
but
certainly
as
a
resident
I'm.
N
C
A
N
First
day
in
the
hot
seat,
typically,
when
we
write
a
request
for
directions
report
in
response
to
an
appeal,
the
report
actually
does
not
include
a
draft
zoning
bylaw,
because
we
don't
write
the
zoning
bylaws
and
put
something
forward
if
it
isn't
something
that
we
are
recommending
approval
for.
What
we
do
is
we
present.
N
It's
true
between
the
time
when
the
appeal
is
filed
and
the
time
that
a
decision
is
made
at
the
border.
Even
the
beginning
of
the
hearing
happens,
the
actual
hearing,
not
the
pre
hearing
the
applicant,
can
change
their
proposal
and
write
a
draft
by
law
that
reflects
the
changed
proposal.
So,
while
today
there
is
an
application
for
an
eight
story,
building
that
has
been
appealed
by
the
time
we
get
to
a
hearing.
It
could
be
different.
C
H
E
N
E
E
Anyway,
so
it's
that's
mentioned
here,
but
the
proponent
seems
to
be
using
the
mid-rise
guideline,
which
is
what
I
was
asking
about.
Mid-Rise
guidelines,
one
to
one
the
white
stuff
has
planning
had
discussions.
I
know
you
haven't
had
a
meeting,
but
has
planning
had
discussions
with
the
proponent,
so
they
are
aware
of
the
urban
design
guideline
which
is
wench,
which
is
meant
to
guide
them
versus
the
mid-rise
guideline,
which
is
meant
to
guide
them
so
have
you
met,
has
planning
met
with
the
proponent
and
explained
this
to
them?.
N
E
So
this
direction
report
is
suggesting
sending
city
league
city
planning
to
L,
packed
at
the
pre-hearing
in
September
I,
hear
September,
okay,
I
can't
ask
the
councillor,
but
maybe
would
you
know
if
there's
going
to
be
any
other
parties
at
the
pre-hearing?
Are
you
aware
of
any
community
groups
who
are
going
to
be
part
cheese?
Are
they
going
to
be
participants
if
they
can't
be
parties,
because
that's
one
way
that
whether
community
can
get
their
voice
heard
at
the
pre-hearing
I?
Would.
N
Expect
a
large
number
of
parties
and
participants
because
about
two
blocks
to
the
east
of
here
I.
Also
on
the
south
side,
we
have
recently
been
through
an
to
your
miss
full
Board
hearing
at
two
nine
one.
Five
blue
and
there
were
I,
would
say
at
least
a
dozen
possibly
more
participants
and
several
parties
who
were
there
during
the
entire
length
of
the
hearing
which
has
not
yet
concluded
so.
E
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
There
any
further
questions.
Okay,
I
have
a
question,
so
we
have
in
our
agenda.
We
have
a
report
dated
March
10th
and
at
the
preliminary
report,
where
the
recommendation
was
to
schedule
a
community
consultation
meeting.
So
are
you
saying
that,
since
March
until
today,
that
you
haven't
had
a
community
meeting
because
of
lack
of
staffing
is?
Is
that
the
answer
I.
A
O
Report
came
to
community
council.
The
counselor
actually
made
a
motion
because
the
application
was
appealed
at
that
time.
So
there
is
a
motion
put
in
for
a
request
for
Direction
report.
So
instead
of
adopting
the
recommendations
of
the
preliminary
report
at
that
time,
the
counselor
had
asked
staff
to
come
forward
with
the
requestor
direction,
because
the
appeal
was
already
submitted.
I
know.
A
H
N
Normally
we
would
like,
if
an
application
came
in
in
November
to
have
it
within
two
or
three
cycles,
with
the
preliminary
report
to
ey
CC.
So
it
didn't
go
in
November.
It
didn't
go
in
January,
it
didn't
go
in
February.
It
was
written
in
March
and
signed
off
in
March.
It
was
supposed
to
go
then,
but
when
it
because
of
the
deadlines
and
how
long
it
takes
between
when
you
write
it
and
when
it
gets
to
e,
we
see
oh
I,
see
C
on
the
agenda
the
week
before
it
was
to
be
on.
N
F
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker,
and
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here
tonight.
I
think
it's
I
think
given
the
deputations
tonight,
everyone's
pretty
steadfast
in
the
community
and
what
we're
looking
for,
and
it's
certainly
no
surprise
that
we're
looking
for
builders
who
come
into
the
community
to
adhere
to
our
blue
streak
guidelines
and
that's
six
stories
and
I
think
we're
all
very
well
aware
of
29:15
bleuer.
F
F
Unfortunately,
that
hearing
is
going
to
last
until
mid-december
late,
December
and
following
that
we'll
have
some
kind
of
a
decision
on
where
we
stand.
Given
that
we
have
a
mid-rise
guideline
that
may
or
may
not
be
superseded
by
a
mid-rise
guideline,
so
I'm
going
to
actually
sorry
I'm
gonna
put
a
motion
forward
as
well.
Sorry
about
that
rosemary
that
the
topical
York
Community
Council
request,
City
Planning
staff
to
hold
a
community
consultation
meeting
on
this
application.
Prior
to
the
pre-hearing
meeting
scheduled
for
September
18
2018.
F
We've
heard
that
the
developers
willing
to
talk
and
hear
the
concerns
of
the
community
and
obviously
our
concerns,
we're
looking
for
our
concerns
to
be
met.
100%
not
halfway.
So
I
look
forward
to
a
meeting
that
happens
before
the
18th
so
that
at
the
pre-hearing,
perhaps
there's
a
a
change
of
heart
and
if
there's
not,
then
we'll
see
everybody
at
the
actual
hearing.
So
thank
you
again
for
coming
out.
A
Further
speakers,
no
okay,
I
just
want
to
speak
briefly.
I
will
be
supporting
local
councillor
and
I
did
ask
the
question
to
the
to
the
agent
for
the
for
the
applicant
and
she
did
indicate
that
they
would
be
willing
to
work
with
the
city
and
with
the
community.
So
hopefully,
at
that
consultation
meeting
in
Council.
Did
you
know
that
they
would
agree
to
address
the
concerns
of
the
community?
So
there
would
be
an
opportunity
and
I'd
like
to
thank
everyone
for
coming
out.
So
on
the
amendment
by
councillor
DT
on
Oh
on
favor.
A
Both
causa
DiGiorgio
councillor
de
sete,
counter
palacio,
concern
and
zyada
deputy
mayor
Steven
Holliday
calcdp
a
no
count,
councillor
Campbell
and
councillor
Ford
item
as
amended
on
favor
carried.
Thank
you.
It's
been
carried
councillor
holiday.
You
have
a
motion
to
introduce
an
enact
certain
bills.
I
do.