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Etobicoke York Community Council, meeting 21, January 8, 2021
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A
Mark
has
confirmed,
we
have
quorum,
so
I'm
calling
meeting
21
to
order.
Today's
meeting
is
up
by
video
conference
city
staff,
we're
also
connecting
to
the
meeting
by
video
conference.
As
civic
buildings
remain
closed.
The
public
will
continue
to
participate
electronically.
You
can
watch
the
meeting
streaming
live
on
youtube
at
youtube.com,
backslash
toronto
city.
Council
live.
A
I
ask
everyone
for
their
patience
with
any
delays
and
technical
issues.
The
clerk's
staff
have
connected
all
registered
speakers
to
the
meeting
by
audio.
The
list
of
speakers
can
be
viewed
online
by
visiting
the
etobicoke
york
community
council,
page
at
toronto,
dot,
ca,
backslash,
council
and
clicking
the
speakers
box
for
today's
meeting
clerks.
I
t
staff
are
available
to
assist
members
with
their
devices.
A
A
A
A
And
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
first
nations
inuit
and
metis
people.
We
also
acknowledge
the
toronto's
covered
by
treaty
13
with
the
mississaugas
of
the
credit.
Are
there
any
declarations
in
there
under
the
missile
conflict
of
interest
act?
If
you
do,
please
raise
your
hand
around
meet
your
mic
and
indicate
the
item
number
and
nature
of
your
interest.
A
A
B
A
B
A
21.2
555
rexdale
boulevard,
zoning,
violent
application,
final
report.
We
have
speakers
at
9,
30.,
twenty
one
point:
three:
nine:
thirty,
three:
nine
thirty,
five,
the
queen's
way:
zoning
bylaw
amendment
application,
request
rejection
report,
I'm
gonna
move
the
staff
information,
but
I
also
have
madam
clerk
an
amendment.
If
you
could
just
maybe
throw
that
up
that
staff
or
ask
me
to.
A
A
Community
council
amendment
recreation
number
one
as
follows:
city
council
direct,
the
city
solicitor,
together
with
appropriate
city
staff
and
or
retain
external
consultants,
as
may
be
appropriate
to
attend
the
local
planning
planning
appeal
tribunal,
allow
pat
hearing
and
opposing
application
applicants
appeal
to
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
application
for
933-935
the
queen's
way,
all
in
favor
carried
items
amended
all
in
favor
opposed
carried.
Thank
you.
A
21.4
always
stop
control
viking
lane
and
access
road
from
southbound
kipling
avenue
saint
albans
councillor
ford.
Can
you
move
the
staff
requisitions
on
my
behalf
so
move
mr
chair
now
support
moves
to
stop
for
foundations
all
in
favor
opposed
that
carries
21.5
exclusive
right
turn:
lane
designation,
mill
road
at
markland,
drive,
council
holiday.
A
Council
haldi's
move
to
staff
rex,
all
in
favor
opposed
that
is
carried
21.6
permanent
closure
of
portions
of
public
highway
lands,
abutting
dundas
street
west
and
kipling
avenue.
That's
in
my
word
councillor
ford.
Can
you
move
the
staff
for
donations?
Please
so
move
mr
chair.
The
council
forward
moves
the
staff
rex,
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
21.7
through
highway
designation
railway
line,
councillor
nunziado.
A
Counselor
done
moves
the
staff
rex,
all
in
favor,
opposed
carried
21.8
payment,
a
little
parking
703,
the
queensway
councilor
ford.
Can
you
move
the
stop
rex,
please,
on
my
behalf,
so
move
mr
chair
now
support
mr
staff.
Rex,
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
21.9
reopening
of
item
ey
14.8,
always
stop
control
thoroughly
avenue
and
duckworth
street
need
a
motion
to
reopen
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
councillor
nunziado.
A
Thank
you,
dave
of
new
business
ey,
two
one
informational
permit
parking
on
silverthorne
now
between
kenora
crescent
and
eileen
avenue.
Council
nunziada
they'd
like
to
add
that
to
agenda
all
in
favor
opposed
carried,
and
we
also
have
18
hearn
hill
request
for
the
city
so
to
attend
the
local
appeal
body
by
counselor
holiday,
I'll
figure
out
the
agenda
opposed
carried,
and
that's
it
correct
nancy.
D
A
F
F
F
I
would
like
to
quickly
take
you
through
the
proposal,
as
it
has
has
evolved
over
time.
If
you
are
looking
at
the
slide
deck
in
terms
of
the
second
slide,
the
lands
are
located
at
the
southwest
corner
of
stormcliff
and
dundas
within
a
mixed-use
area
and
citing
area
specific
policy
367,
which
is
intended
for
intensification
and
growth,
as
is
proposed
through
this
application.
F
The
area
which
is
slide
three,
a
long
done
assets
council's
no
doubt
aware,
is
redeveloping
for
this
intensification,
I'll
see
from
east
to
west,
along
dundas,
and
so
this
site
at
the
corner
of
shorncliffe
and
dundas,
will
contribute
significantly
to
that
future
growth
and
intensification
along
dundas
with
regards
to
going
through
the
slides
in
terms
of
slide.
Four,
our
original
proposal
by
our
client
was
for
a
mid-block
development
of
a
12-story,
mid
mid-rise
building
through
the
application
process.
F
Staff
strongly
recommended
that
the
proposal
that
our
client
look
at
additional
land
to
consolidate
the
corner
so
that
did
occur.
Our
client
went
to
great
expense
to
obtain
the
corner
and
that
allowed
for
the
new
proposal,
which
is
on
slide
five,
which
depicts
a
tall
building
proposal
with
a
mid-rise
component
along
dundas
street
and
the
taller
component
up
to
21
stories
at
the
rear.
F
The
project
now
is
for
259
rental
units
that
are
proposed,
including
affordable
housing.
As
per
the
recommendation
in
terms
of
the
section
37
agreement
we
have
provided,
and
if
you
flip,
through
slides
six,
seven,
eight
and
nine
developed
a
proposal
which
addresses
appropriately
both
frontages
of
shorncliff
as
well
as
dundas
with
a
pedestrian
scaled
frontage.
F
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
there
are
two
concerns
have
been
raised
and
I
believe
the
speakers
will
speak
to
this
further
and
this
goes
to
slide
nine
and
ten.
As
the
first
items
which
relate
to
shadow
studies-
and
I
understand
that
there
was
some
concern
with
the
shadow
studies-
we
have
reviewed
those
with
staff.
There
were
some
minor
calibration
issues
which
have
been
rectified.
F
Staff
have
reviewed
those
we've
provided
those
to
them
and,
as
I've
noted
previously
through
our
reports
that
it
does
not
impact
our
opinion,
there
are
no
shadows
at
the
march
or
september
equinox
that
affect
the
neighborhoods
area.
There
was
a
question
with
regards
and
this
is
what
I've
included
in
the
slide
deck
regarding
december
shadows.
As
council
is
aware,
shadows
at
in
december
are
the
longest
and
therefore
not.
F
Of
the
majority
of
the
the
year
there
is,
as
shown
in
the
morning
period
from
9
18
to
10
18
shadows
on
the
neighborhoods.
It
then
passes
quickly.
It
does
not
affect
the
green
space
of
cloverdale
park
that
is
also
to
the
north
and
by
just
after
11
o'clock,
is
completely
within
the
mixed
use
areas.
So,
in
our
opinion-
and
I
I
won't
speak
for
staff,
but
I
believe
that
their
opinion
is
also
that
the
shadows
have
been
adequately
limited,
as
directed
by
the
official
plan
policies
ending
off
on
the
last
slide.
F
The
other
issue
that
I
understand
that
has
raised
was
there.
We
have
negotiated
a
section
37
package.
There
is
a
million
dollars
that
has
been
provided
for
for
community
benefits
and
staff
have
identified
a
list
of
those
within
recommendation
for
a
I,
and
obviously
this
is
up
to
council
how
that
money
is
allocated.
We
have
no
concerns
with
how
that
allocation
occurs,
but
I
would
like
to
note
that
the
requests
that
are
being
made
of
council
to
direct
monies
to
other
areas
are
included
within
that
list
from
what
I
can
see.
F
C
Mayor,
I
thank
you.
I
did
note
the
issue
with
the
shadow
studies
in
the
correspondence
from
the
residents
and
I
wondered
if
you
could
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
calibration
issue
was
and
how
material
it
was
to
the
changes.
I
don't.
I
don't
have.
I
have
your
diagram
here,
but
I
don't
have
the
shadow
study
handy
from
the
original
application.
F
The
shadow
angle
was
not
the
same
as
pinnacle,
for
example,
so
when
you
took
it
made
them
exactly
the
same
frame
visually,
they
then
aligned.
So
that
was
one
I
think
issue
that
the
residents
brought
up
to
us,
that
visually
it
didn't
appear
to
be
correct,
and
in
that
matter
of
fact,
the
frame
when
you
adjust
it
to
match
pinnacle
is
exactly
the
same,
and
the
shadows
do
not
change.
F
The
other
calibration
issue
was
that
there
was
a
a
slight
mistake
in
terms
of
the
timing
of
daylight
savings
time,
so
the
the
9
a.m
period
was
showing
the
10
a.m
period
and
the
10
a.m
period
was
showing
the
11
a.m
period.
When
you
adjusted
for
daylight
savings
time.
The
adjustment,
because
that
changes
year
to
year
of
when
you
adjust
it,
just
move
the
the
shadow
further
to
the
south
west
at
the
9
a.m
period.
F
C
F
F
C
A
G
You
that's
wonderful.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
council
for
your
time
this
morning.
Also,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
on
the
covert
virus.
I'm
sure
it's
all
been
very
hard
on
all
of
you.
In
general.
I
thought
this
was
a
good
report
that
staff
had
written.
It
was
very
thorough.
G
In
addition,
as
you
know,
we've
got
about
12,
000,
plus
residential
units
being
built
and
proposed
west
of
kipling
avenue
and
I'm
concerned
that
there
won't
be
any
substantial
new
green
space
and
one
of
our
local
green
spaces
is
actually
called
silver
hill
park,
but
the
city
doesn't
own
it.
It
belongs
to
the
school
board
and
it's
being
used
as
an
alternative
school
at
the
moment.
A
H
Thank
you,
and
my
thanks.
Thanks
to
madam
speaker,
chairman
grimes
and
the
other
counselors,
thank
you
for
giving
me
this
opportunity
to
speak.
There's
only
a
few
areas
that
I
wish
to
address.
I've
submitted
a
submission,
so
you
may
have
had
a
chance
to
review
that,
and
one
of
them
has
to
do,
and
there's
always
been
some
discussion
about
that
section:
recommendation,
4a,
1
and
specifically
the
first
two
items.
H
The
first
is
the
village
of
islington
business
improvement
area
and
as
much
as
I
support
seeing
money
directed
towards
business
improvement
areas,
and
there
is
not
one
in
the
south
eatonville.
I
struggle
with
the
idea
of
money.
That's
been
obtained
from
development
in
south
eatonville
being
directed
to
this
other
part
of
the
ward
irene
jones
has
already
mentioned
that.
If
we
can
talk
about
typically
being
a
bit
of
a
divide,
I
would
say
residents
in
our
area,
don't
as
a
rule
shop
in
islington
village.
H
So
I
I
struggle
with
the
idea
that
money
from
a
development
here
would
be
directed
out
to
a
place
that
really,
in
my
opinion,
does
not
offer
benefit
to
the
residents
of
this
community.
I
also
see
etobicoke
center
six
points
park.
As
I
said,
this
is
not
to
be
confused
with
the
existing
very
tiny
park
six
points
park.
This
is
a
new
park,
that's
proposed
as
part
of
etobicoke
center.
H
But
again
it's
not
in
my
opinion,
something
that's
going
to
benefit
the
residents
current
residents
of
south
eatonville
or
the
people
that
end
up
looking
at
this
development-
and
I
you
know,
I
would
ask-
I
say:
f
local
park
and
streetscape
improvements
that
you
know
there's
a
possibility
of
money
there.
You
know.
I
would
ask
that
council
consider
improvements.
We're
well
served
actually
for
parks.
H
And
last
but
not
least,
you
know,
there's
been
some
discussion
actually
before.
I
leave
that
this
idea
of
section
70,
section
37
money
for
capital
improvements.
You
know
if
I
was
the
owner
of
this
land
or
the
developer,
you
know
I
would
be
pushing
to
have
this
money
spent
in
a
way
that
would
benefit
the
people
that
live
in
my
building.
I
realize
it's
not
up
to
the
developer,
the
owner
of
where
this
money
is
spent,
but
you
know,
as
I
look
at
our
local
councillor,
councillor
grimes.
H
I
would
hope
that
you
know
you
would
support
and
I'm
sure
you
will
south
eatonville
and
having
money
generated
in
south
eatonville
spent
in
a
way
that
would
truly
benefit
the
residents
of
south
eatonville
and
the
only
other
thing
I
wish
to
talk
about.
I've
already
been
mentioned
briefly.
The
shadow
study
and
point
taken,
I'm
the
one
that
brought
up
the
comparison
with
beamish
and
yes,
that
is
a
35
story
building
as
opposed
to
what
we're
looking
at
here,
a
21
story
building.
H
H
If
I
look
at
the
shadow
study,
45509
dundas,
it's
very
short-
and
I
just
struggle
to
believe
that
the
shadow
from
a
21-story
building
would
barely
well.
It
would
go
maybe
halfway
up
block
at
the
equinox
and
then,
of
course,
in
december
solstice
again,
if
you
look
at
beamish,
the
shadows
go
on
forever
and
I
would
anticipate
that
the
shadows
from
a
21-story
building
would
be
quite
long
at
the
december
solstice.
H
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
for
speaking
to
us
and
you
know
what
it's
a
good
catch
on.
The
shadow
study
like
I
noticed
that
you
don't
see
that
level
of
detail
that
often
in
submissions
from
the
public
to
community
council
and
it
kind
of
stood
out,
but
I
but
from
if
I
got
this
right
from
your
comments,
though
you
still
are,
are
concerned
about
it.
If
something
isn't
right,.
C
Okay,
I
I
can
have
a
chance
to
ask
staff
questions,
maybe
I'll
see
if
there's
someone
here
that
can
talk,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
comfortable
coming
out
of
the
meeting
as
best
as
I
can
or
not
comfortable.
If
there's
not
something
right,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
point.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
A
A
B
B
B
B
I
looked
at
the
shadow
study
sunday
evening
and
I
noticed
that
there
wasn't
a
study
done
for
december
and
I
sent
an
email
to
the
planner.
You
know
being
a
layperson,
I'm
not
up
on
the
nuances
and
rules
about
shadow
studies,
but
apparently
because
the
proposal
isn't
near
a
park
or
an
open
space
or
a
graveyard.
B
B
B
Now.
The
question
I
have
to
I
guess
question
is
this:
this
building
is
going
to
set
the
precedence
on
the
west
side
of
dundas
the
west
side
of
shaver.
Sorry,
and
is
there
a
second
plan
for
the
lands
west
of
shorncliffe
as
again
as
this
building
will
set
a
precedent
for
development
on
lands
west
of
shorncliffe
avenue,
east
of
the
427.?
A
A
I
Thank
you
very
much
so
good
morning,
mr
chairman,
members
of
community
council,
my
name
is
harry
horosco,
I'm
the
planning
lawyer
for
the
applicant
I
registered
today.
Primarily
in
the
event,
any
questions
came
up
that
had
not
already
been
handled
by
mr
makai,
I'm
just
going
to
address.
I
think,
two
of
them
very
briefly
the
question
of
shadows,
I'm
not
sure.
I
If
community
council
members
were
able
to
see
the
reference
that
mr
makai
made
to
the
shadow
diagrams,
I'm
going
to
leave
you
with
a
thought
that
you
may
want
to
ask
them
to
come
back
and
address
those
or
you
may
want
staff
to
do
that.
There
was
two
very
small
calibration
matters
that
had
come
up:
the
timing
and
the
the
direction,
the
suggestion
that
we're
looking
back
at
the
11
story
building,
I
think
that
can
be
handled
very,
very
quickly,
either
through
staff
or
mr
mackay.
I
If
you
wanted
to
come
back
the
slides
were
there,
he
submitted
them
to
your
clerk.
The
other
comment
I
have
is
really
a
soft
comment,
but
it's
with
respect
to
the
resident's
request
that
the
money
to
be
spent
more
locally.
My
client
is
is
cutting
the
check
for
the
one
million
dollars
that
we're
talking
about
here.
I
think,
if
you
look
at
rec,
I
think
the
question
really
becomes
one
of
the
drafting
question.
I
If
you
look
at
recommendation,
4a,
that's
coming
to
you
from
staff,
it's
4a1
there's
a
list
there
of
what
they're
suggesting
how
the
monies
could
be
spent
and
I'm
going
to
say
to
you.
There's
flexibility
already
built
into
that
recommendation
in
two
ways.
First
of
all,
you'll
see
after
they
identify
five
locations.
They
end
with
the
monies
could
be
spent
on
local
park
and
streetscape
improvements.
I
I
believe
that
includes
what
are
being
you're
being
asked
already
without
the
need
for
amending
it,
I'm
in
your
hands.
I've
talked
to
my
client
about
it,
of
course,
we'd
like
the
money
to
be
spent
locally,
but
we
realize
that
this
is
a
decision
in
consultation
with
the
local
councillor
for
the
department
and
for
commute
and
for
city
council
to
make
that
determination.
I
It
may
already
be
there.
The
other
flexibility
you're,
probably
aware
of
the
standard
section.
37
agreement
always
indicates,
and
you'll
see
that
here
if
the
monies
aren't
spent
within
three
years
that
staff
in
consultation
with
the
community
councillor
can
spend
that
money
elsewhere,
and
so
you
may
feel
that
it's
already
there
without
the
need
to
add
to
that
list.
It's
up
to
you
we're
we're
we're
prepared
to
we're
happy
either
way.
That's
all
I
really
have
for
council
or
community
council
members
today.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
on
this
matter.
I
I
think
we're
coming
forward
with
a
a
good
project
and
you'll
have
just
note
that
mr
makai
said
this
owner
came
forward
with
an
application
originally
on
only
half
the
site
and
he
ran
into
a
snag
on
the
site
and
staff
really
pushed
back
and
said:
you've
got
to
go
out
and
acquire
more
land,
and
I
got
to
tell
you
that
hardly
ever
happens
where
an
owner
is
application
is
stopped
in
its
tracks.
The
owner
had
to
go
out.
I
C
Thanks,
mr
horasco,
I
wonder
you
know
this
issue
over
the
shadow.
Is
it's
really
bothering
me
because
residents
are
are
not
confident
in
the
data?
That's
before
them.
Do
you
have
any
advice?
I
mean
it
should
be
easy
enough
to
really
empirically
check
right.
Like
yeah,
we
know
the
building
height
like.
Is
there
any
guidance
you
could
offer
to
a
simple
person
like
me
like?
Is
there
a
table
or
something
I
could
look
at
and
do
my
own
math?
C
I
I'm
going
to
give
you
really
two
comments.
The
first
one
is
I'm
embarrassed.
I
have
a
degree
from
university
and
geography
and
you
think
I'd
be
able
to
respond
to
you
and
give
you
like
a
short,
easy
way
of
handling
I'll,
tell
I'll
start
off
with
saying
this
shadow
diagrams
when
you
get
into
really
looking
at
them
and
we
spent
on
the
approvals
down
in
mimiko,
we
probably
spent
in
mediation
80
hours
going
through
shadow
diagrams,
it's
unbelievable
how
important
it
all
becomes.
I
In
this
case,
though,
I've
got
to
defer
to
this
guy,
I'm
not
sure
what
your
procedures
are,
but
I'd
like
you
to
think
counselor
holiday,
whether
you
invite
mr
makai
to
come
back
because
he's
our
expert
on
this
in
conjunction
with
the
architect.
So
I'm
going
to
kind
of
finish.
Speaking
on
that
and
say,
I
think,
he's
the
guy
that
may
have
your
answer.
I
Apart
from
that,
I've
got
a
diagram,
an
acetate
overlay
that
I
used
to
use
from
time
to
time.
I've
misplaced
it
years
ago.
I
don't
know
where
it
is,
but
I've
looked
at
the
shadow
diagrams.
I
don't
think
you've
seen
them
in
in
the
in
the
meeting
today,
and
I
understand
that
that
residents
neighbors
have
a
concern
or
a
fear
about
it
and
if
it
hasn't
been
properly
explained
to
them
that
concern's
going
to
kind
of
be
lingering
staff.
Also
look
at
these
things.
I
A
A
A
Okay,
so
sarah
just
to
start
off,
but
I
guess
under
mr
mcdonald's
questioning
what's
going
to
happen
further
west
of
of
shorncliffe
dundas
street
is
identified
as
one
of
the
four
growth
here's
the
city.
Is
that
correct,
that's
correct
and
on
the
south
side
of
dundas?
That's
where
I
think
city
planning
is
expect
to
have
some
height
correct.
A
J
That's
correct:
that's
typically
what
we
do
with
any
development.
The
the
developer
would
be
responsible
for
the
streetscaping,
on
their
property
and
and
sometimes
through
section
37.
We
do
get
adjacent
streetscaping
done
as
well,
but
we
do
have
provision
for
that
in
this
report.
Through
the
the
recommendations.
A
All
right
and
sarah,
your
your
department,
is
recommending
this
this
application
here
today
and
there's
been
talk
of
this
the
shadowing.
Could
you
maybe
just
briefly
talk
about
the
shouting?
Are
you
city
planning
satisfied
with
the
shattering
report
that
was
provided
by
the
applicant
to
city
planning.
J
Yes,
we
are:
we've
had
our
expert
staff
in
urban
design
review.
The
shadow
information
has
been
has
been
discussed.
There
were
some
technical
issues
with
some
of
the
shadow
information
provided,
but
our
staff
worked
with
the
applicant
to
address
those
technical
issues
and
have
provided
their
their
comments
that
they're
satisfied
with
it.
J
This
development
does
fit
within
the
45
degree,
angular
plane
to
the
neighborhood,
which
is
one
of
our
requirements,
and
with
that
angular
plane
provision,
it
does
address
potential
for
shadow
impacts
and
particularly
at
the
equinox,
that's
the
benchmark
that
we
generally
use,
because
it
does
provide
the
balance
for
the
sun
and
shadow
for
the
year.
So
we
do
look
at
the
summer
and
we
do
look
at
the
december
times
as
well.
But
the
equinox
is
the
the
primary
benchmark
that
we
use
and
there's
no
shadow
impact
in
the
neighborhood
at
the
equinox.
A
J
A
Great
and
sarah,
what
a
question
I
guess
on
the
section:
37
it's
a
million
dollars,
which
is
really
not
a
lot
of
money,
but
once
you
carve
it
all
out,
but
there's
been
talk
about
moving
to
the
east
or
to
the
west
of
kipling.
I
think
the
way
it's
written
now,
it's
pretty
general
that
this
could
be
moving
like
number
like
f
after
number,
one
local
parks
and
street.
We
can
move
that
around
and,
as
mr
ross
will
do
two
after
three
years
we
can
work
to
move
that
money,
but
it's
got.
A
A
A
C
C
I
wonder
if
amelia
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
just
empirically.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
matter
of
the
shadow
gets
really
tidied
up.
I
know
you've
reviewed
the
documents.
Is
there
something
or
is
there?
Is
there
some
information
or
methodology
you
could
give
to
us
that
we
could
go
and
check
independently?
Is
there
a?
C
K
K
So
a
45
degree
angular
plane
relates
to
the
height
the
overall
height
of
the
building,
to
the
extent
that
the
shadows
are
cast
between
march,
the
21st
and
september
the
21st,
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
one-to-one
aspect,
so
the
height
of
the
building
to
the
distance
that
the
shadow
will
be
cast
and
it
determines
because
of
of
where
toronto
is
located.
It
determines
where
the
shadows
are
going
to
extend
to
and
whether
or
not
that's
acceptable.
K
K
C
That
would
give
you
a
rough
sense
of
what
you're
talking
about
now.
I
think
we
can
go
onto
the
website
map.toronto.ca
and
you
can
measure
stuff.
I
know
I
do
it
all
the
time
potentially.
Could
somebody
go
on
the
internet
and
look
up
those
tables
of
angles
and
locations?
I
mean
there's
probably
websites
out
there
or
reference
books
in
the
library
like
it.
You
could
do
that.
I
guess
I
mean
I
could
do
that
if
I
really
wanted
to
check
this
yeah.
K
Yes,
yes,
you
could
yeah,
but
if
you,
if
you
look
at
this
particular
context,
dundas
is
quite
wide
here,
it's
more
than
36
meters
in
width.
So
you
realize
that
you
know
with
dundas
and
then
with
the
the
parcel
of
land
on
the
north
side
of
dundas,
then
it
generally
would
be
more
than
the
seven
meters
and
it's
it
70
meters
and
it
would
keep
the
shadows
away
from
the
neighborhood.
C
Okay-
and
I
just
I
wanted
to
emphasize
the
point
about
you-
look
at
the
equinox
in
the
spring
and
in
the
fall,
and
you
don't
necessarily
look
at
it
in
the
middle
of
summer,
because
the
sun's
coming
straight
down
and
you
don't
necessarily
look
at
it
on
the
winter,
because
the
shadows
are
really
long.
But
could
you
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
as
to
why
you
look
at
those
equinoxes
rather
than
focusing
on
the
winter
shadow
condition.
K
So
we
do
look
at
the
december,
the
21st
shadows,
and
we
do
look
at
the
june,
the
21st
shadows
as
well.
However,
we
place
particular
importance
on
the
equinoxes
in
order
to
ensure
that
there's
access
to
sunlight
within
areas
where
people
are
walking
the
public
realm
of
the
streets,
the
parks,
so
that
it's
more
comfortable
for
people
in
march,
the
20
on
march,
the
21st.
If
you
have
access
to
sunlight,
if
sunlight
is
shining
on
you,
then
you
feel
more
comfortable
outside
in
in
the
cooler
weather.
K
So
it
extends
the
the
range
of
of
where
it
feels
comfortable
to
walk
outside
if
you're
walking
on
us
on
the
sunny
side
of
the
street,
for
example,
or
in
a
sunny
area
of
the
park.
So
those
are
areas
that
we
would
particularly
consider
and
then
we
also
look
at
the
impacts
on
people's
backyards
and
things
like
that
to
ensure
that
they
still
have
access
to
sunlight
in
their
backyards
when
they
would
be
using
them.
So
that's
the
range
of
of
how
we
look
at
shadows
and
how
we
evaluate
whether
or
not
they're
acceptable.
C
Okay
and
the
the
shadow
studies
that
we
saw
today,
they
don't
take
into
account
potential
future
development.
That's
along
the
corridor,
so
does
anybody
know
what's
the
vision
for
or
the
as
of
right
or
what
does
our
plan
say
about
what
would
happen
on
the
north
side?
How
tall
would
those
buildings
potentially
be,
and
would
those
two
shadows
collide
with
each
other.
K
So
we'd
be
looking
at
mid-rise
buildings
on
the
north
side
and
we
would
be
looking
at
ensuring
that
the
overall
height
maintains
the
45
degree
angular
plane
and
the
heights
are
below
the
45
degree
angular
plane,
so
any
shadows
that
come
from
the
south
side
would
coincide
with
shadows
from
the
north
side.
Even
though,
on
the
south
side,
we
expect
that
the
building
heights
will
be
taller,
but
then,
on
the
north
side,
the
building
heights
will
be
shorter
and
all
of
those
shadows
should
be
maintained
again.
Within
that
45
degree,
angular,
plane.
C
Okay,
so
if
the
the
angular
plane
comes
down,
the
buildings
on
the
north
side
will
be
shorter,
but
they
will
also
produce
shadows
that
could
be
fairly
long
in
december
and
those
are
as
of
right
for
those
landowners
right
now.
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
don't
have
any
for
hopefully
that
helped.
If
folks
are
listening
on
the
call.
It
helped
me
a
little
bit.
Mr
chu,
I
didn't
have
any
other
questions
and
I'll
pass
it
back
to
you,
sir.
A
A
No
okay,
I
guess
we
don't
all
right.
So
I've
gone
to
speakers.
I
will
speak
first
if
I
could
so
I'll
be
moving
the
staff
recommendations.
I
do
want
to
say.
Dundas
street
is
one
of
the
four
growth
areas
in
the
city
and,
as
you
heard,
sarah
henstock
say
you
know.
This
is
one
of
the
areas
that
we
expect
some
height
on
the
south
side.
Moving
along
on
the
north
side,
you
heard
amelia
say
it's
we're
hoping
for
mid-rise
on
the
north
side,
but
we
do
have
these
policies
in
place.
A
F
A
Years
down
at
humber
bay
shore,
she's
fantastic,
she
makes
sure
she
represents
our
residents
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
great
public
realm
at
the
bottom
of
these
buildings.
I
mean
it
taught
me
that
when
I
came
as
a
rookie
counselor,
so
she's
been
fabulous
to
making
sure
that
the
developers
are
are
making
sure
that
the
the
bottoms
of
these
buildings
are,
you
know,
have
a
really
good
feel
to
them.
So
I
I
learned
that
from
there.
A
So
I
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
staff
but,
like
I
said
we
have
the
planning
policies,
the
45
airplanes
in
in
that
for
these
shadow
reasons.
So
I
know
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
growth
happening
on
dundas.
The
city
center
is
happening
there,
councilman
hall,
they
kind
of
share
the
the
share.
The
the
border
there
and
you'll
see
the
section.
37
that's
happening
here.
A
You
know
wedgwood
park,
it's
in
council
holidays
war,
but
we
don't
look
at
it
that
way:
councilor
holiday,
so
we
it's
one
community,
so
legal,
very
active
red
association,
but
on
the
section
37,
I
think
we
have
really
left
it
open
to
be
able
to
move
some
of
that
money
around
and
and
there's
a
comment
from
one
of
our
our
deputies
about
that.
Isn't
it
bia?
You
know
more
more
than
now
that
these
small
businesses
could
use
this
money.
You
know
it's!
A
It's
a
million
dollars
carved
up,
so
we're
not
talking
a
lot
of
money,
but
more
than
ever
we
need
to
support
our
ba.
So
once
this
all
gets
done
when
it
really
gets
to
work
done
with
all
these
great
connections
from
the
city
center
to
dundas,
as
we
move
along
people
will,
I
believe,
be
able
to
walk,
have
a
great
walk
over
to
that
isn't
nba
to
do
some
shopping
there
and
shop
local.
That
seems
to
be
the
theme
of
the
day
back
to
the
parks.
A
I
I
know
my
former
colleague
counselor
to
channel
did
extensive
consultation
on
cloverdale
park
and
on
silver
hill.
There
was
great
community
input
on
that,
the
request
for
a
splash
pad.
I
get
that
all
the
time
there's
one
I
talked
to
counselor
holiday
about
it
not
too
far
away,
but
the
cost
of
the
splash
pad
is
basically
700
000,
so
that
would
eat
up
that
million
dollars
very
very
quickly.
But
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear:
there's
more
development
happening,
it's
going
to
happen
on
dundas.
A
C
I
mean
that's
integral
to
the
decision-making
process
and
just
with
respect
to
councillor
grimes,
you
know
I'm
really
thrilled
that
some
of
the
the
section
37
money
will
cross
borders
of
the
wards.
Those
borders
are
arbitrary.
I
know
wedgewood
pool
is
nearby
and
it's
an
important
facility.
I
was
just
there
recently
skating,
not
on
the
pool
but
on
the
skating
pad
next
door
and
that's
an
important
part.
C
The
right
allocation
and
these
staff
recommendations
look
pretty
flexible
to
me
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
do
in
a
city
like
this
is
remain
flexible,
so
that
we
can
respond
to
what
the
need
of
is
at
the
time-
and
we
know
it's
going
to
be
quite
a
while
before
the
money
actually
comes
into
the
city
accounts
because
of
how
the
process
works
so
step
by
step.
So
thank
you
to
everybody
that
participated
on
this
and
I'm
happy
to
support
the
recommendations.
C
A
A
Thank
you,
nancy.
Okay,
moving
right
along
our
last
item:
21.25555
rexdale,
boulevard,
zoning
violin
application,
final
report;
woodvine,
we
have
our
first
speaker,
tyler
peck,
a
senior
associate
at
walker,
not
associates.
Mr
peck.
Are
you
there
good
morning?
Good
morning,
mr
peck,
you
have
five
minutes.
My
friend.
M
The
proposed
woodbine
go
station
in
the
vicinity
of
highway
27
and
the
metrolink
rail
corridor
is
a
transportation
facility
to
be
built
by
woodbine
entertainment
group
at
their
expense
and
to
be
conveyed
to
metrolinx.
This
is
a
project
in
the
public
interest
of
both
the
city
and
the
province.
This
application
would
permanently
implement
an
existing
approval
of
the
committee
of
adjustment
in
july
of
2020
to
permit
transportation
uses
on
the
site
for
a
five-year
temporary
basis,
along
with
ancillary
retail
uses
and
a
zero
meter
lot
line.
Setback
for
transportation
uses
to
the
railway
corridor.
M
The
approval
of
this
application
also
importantly
implements
long-standing
transportation
policies
and
mapping
in
the
official
plan,
as
well
as
citing
area
specific
policy
296
for
the
woodbine
lands
which
explicitly
contemplate
transit
facilities
on
these
lands.
A
separate
site
plan
application
has
also
been
filed
with
the
city
for
the
woodbine
go
station
itself
and
that
application
is
currently
under
review
with
staff.
M
We
agree
with
the
staff
report
in
front
of
community
council
that
the
proposed
amendment
is
consistent
with
the
provincial
planning
or
provincial
policy
statement
rather
and
conforms
to
the
growth
plan
and
the
official
plan.
We
do,
however,
have
concerns
with
the
section
37
mechanism
proposed
by
staff
through
their
report
to
secure
matters
which,
in
our
view,
would
appropriately
be
addressed
through
the
site,
plan,
approval
and
other
available
processes.
E
L
L
J
J
A
C
Thank
you
to
staff
is:
has
there
ever
been
any
consideration
of
commuter
parking
in
all
of
this
context
tonight
this?
It
may
not
be
susp
specifically
for
this
report,
but
it
just
did
it
occurred
to
me
that
you
know
just
the
demand
for
that
is,
is
on
the
rise
in
the
city
because
we're
losing
it
along
the
blue
or
subway
line
you
know
is
that
does
that
fit
somewhere
in
the
mix?
J
E
A
E
A
E
J
Through
the
chair,
that's
correct,
like
generally
transit
is
seen
as
being
supportive
of
growth
and
development
in
many
areas.
That's
how
we've
looked
at
it
across
the
city,
and
you
can
see
that
in
some
areas
we've
had
more
uptake
on
growth
and
development,
others
we're
anticipating
it
and
we're
getting
interest.
Now
it
just
kind
of
depends
on
the
area
and
the
the
amount
of
development
and
type
of
opportunities
there
are
for
development,
but
generally
transit
is
seen
as
something
that
brings
intensification
and
growth
and
development
to
different
areas.
J
N
Sorry
cancer
off
hand.
This
is
louise
galley,
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
page
it's
located
on.
However,
the
report
speaks
to
the
fact
that
there
has
always
been
a
vision
that
the
finch
lrt,
which
currently
ends
at
humber
college,
would
extend
further
down
number
27
highway
27
and
there
would
be
a
potential
location
on
this
site
sort
of
kind
of
mid-location
along
27..
E
Been
that
thought
yeah!
No!
I
I
and
and
my
thinking
precisely
louise
and
and
I'm
just
looking
through
the
report-
how
many
meters
is
humber
college
away
from
where
this,
where
the
integration
of
go
and
and
the
lrt
might
happen
on
this
site.
I
just
want
to
get
an
understanding
of
that,
because
I
think
that
that's
important.
E
But
I
guess
I
guess
what
my
my
my
question
to
you
would
be
is:
is
how
can
we
make
that
statement
as
strong
as
possible
and
and
repeat
it
as
loud
as
possible,
so
that
so
that
people
understand
that
these
level
that
these
languages
would
benefit
immeasurably
by
that
connection,
which
only
a
couple
of
hundred
meters
away
that
that
line
currently
terminates
a
couple
of
hundred
meters
away
from
the
site.
I
I
guess
I'm
going
a
couple
hundred
meters
in
my
own
brain.
I
don't
know.
N
Yeah
so
on
you'll
see
something
on
page
14
that
speaks
to
the
growth
plan,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that,
the
by
record,
by
allowing
for
the
transportation
use
on
the
site,
it
would
allow
for
more
than
just
the
ghost
station
it
would
allow
for
the
future.
Lrt
and
woodbine
has
always
in
their
plans
kind
of
reserved
a
location
on
this
on
the
site
where
this
lrt
could
be
located,
and
that
was
one
of
them.
E
So
this
is
the
statement
here.
The
proposal
transportation
use
would
allow
for
future
transit
facilities
to
be
located
on
site,
such
as
a
new
go
station
or
lr
lrt
facility
that
could
be
connected
to
that's
the
that's.
The
statement
and
the
extent
of
the
statement
that
we're
going
to
that
we're
going
to
include
in
in
in
in
all
of
the
future
planning
reports
related
to
this
site.
N
E
That's
it
that's
the
extent
of
from
what
I
see
here
as
the
as
the
mention
of
the
of
the
lrt
or
the
future,
lrt
sure
to
goodness
we
could.
We
could.
You
know
you
know.
Sort
of
you
know
find
a
few
more
words
to
at
least
include
a
couple
of
sentences
that
that
would
make
that
you
know
somewhat
clear
in
terms
of
what
we're
talking
about
right.
You
know
the
there's.
There
was
always
talk
of
taking
the
eglinton
lrt
out
to
this
area.
E
E
E
To
say:
look,
you
know
we
got
a
statement
in
this
thing
and
this
official
plan
that
says
that
getting
that
finch
west
lrt
connection
here
really
benefits
you
folks
so,
and
we
have
some
ideas
on
how
we
can
be
paid
for
so
so
we
should
move
forward
on
that
basis
right.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
that.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
on
that.
Thank
you.
J
Okay,
counselor,
if
I
could
just
pop
in
the
what
we
try
and
do
in
our
reports,
is,
provide
a
balanced
approach
a
week,
a
good
point
and
we'll
take
that
into
consideration
as
transit
plans
grow
and
change
in
different
areas.
We
do
try
and
get
a
bit
more
specific,
once
stations
are
approved
and
once
again,
when
they're
funded
and
there's
bit
more
direction
as
to
some
of
the
connections,
we
we
do,
try
and
get
a
bit
more
specific
with
it.
E
On
that
point
I
don't
want
to
delay
this,
but
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
to
you
as
city
builders,
that
that
that's
city
building,
so
that's
and
and
that's
sort
of
getting
ahead
on
of
the
argument
on
on
city
building,
so
instead
of
making
it
on
the
back
end.
When
somebody
comes
in
and
says,
oh
now,
there's
money
to
build
an
lrt.
E
L
L
So
look
this.
This
woodline
has
been
in
the
works
for
a
number
of
years
today,
we're
talking
about
the
transit
station,
which
is
a
huge
part
of
this
development,
but
what
I
always
bring
it
back
to
is
the
the
overarching
development
itself
which
the
wood-by-lands
are
larger
than
the
down
in
the
downtown
core
of
the
city.
L
So
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
we
do
this
right
as
I,
as
I
ask
city
staff,
we're
about
95
of
the
way
there
city
staff
have
done
a
fantastic
job
start
this
whole.
You
know
redevelopment
and
particularly
on
the
transit
use.
We're
talking
about
today
and
woodbine
has
been
you
know,
a
terrific
corporate
partner
and
corporate
neighbor
in
the
community,
making
these
investments
upwards
of
over
a
hundred
million
dollars.
L
These
aren't
these
aren't
small
investments
so
which,
as
councillor
perus,
has
said
and-
and
I
thank
him
for
his
questions
and-
and
I
agree
with
what
what
he's
talking
about,
particularly
with
the
lrt
and
expanded
transit.
I
have
had
a
number
of
discussions
with
city
staff
on
that
with
the
province,
and
I
think
you
know
one
day.
That
is
definitely
going
to
be
a
reality.
L
But
look
this
investment
is
not
just
going
to
be
an
investment
in
north
etobicoke
for
woodline,
but
for
the
community,
it's
bordering
a
very
large
commercial
community
as
well,
so
no
doubt
would
be
a
benefit
to
them.
So
look
we're
we're
almost
there.
I
think
we're
gonna
take
the
month
and
a
half
to
meet
again
or
the
two
months
to
meet
with
with
woodbine
with
our
city
staff
from
my
office
to
get
a
path
forward.
L
A
Thank
you,
council,
ford
well
said
seeing
no
further
speakers,
councilor
ford's
motion
was
on
the
screen
and
just
before
we
deal
with
that
motion
since
the
council
force
deferring
this
public
meeting
until
march
3rd
2021
at
9
30
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
no
further
notice
on
communication,
this
statutory
public
meeting
will
be
given.
So
with
that
counselor
ford's
motion
is
on
the
screen,
all
in
favor
opposed
that
is
carried
nancy
back
to
you
with
the
bills.
A
That
the
etobicoke
community
council
pass
and
declare
as
bylaws
two
to
four
prepared
for
the
january
2021
meeting
21
of
the
community
council.
All
in
favor
opposed
carried
that
the
total
york
city
council
passed
declares
bylaw,
conferring
to
our
bill
to
confirm
the
legislative
proceedings
at
the
total
york
community
council
acting
under
delegated
authority
at
meeting
21
on
january
2021,
all
in
favor
posed
carried
emotionally
adjourned
by
council
nunziada,
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
have
a
great
weekend.
Everyone.
Thank
you.
Thanks,
nancy.