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Executive Committee, meeting 11, December 11, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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0:09:54 - Call to order
A
A
A
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
Act
and
if
there
are
any,
please
indicate
the
item
number
and
the
nature
of
the
interest
all
right,
seeing
none
I
will.
Thank
you
for
that.
May
I
have
a
motion
please
to
confirm
the
minutes
of
the
executive
committee
meeting
held
on
November
the
14th
of
2019
councillor
Ainsley
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carries.
A
I
will
make
known
to
the
members
of
the
committee
and
to
the
people
that
are
gathered
here
with
us
today
that
we
have
a
what's
called
a
statutory
hearing,
a
hearing
required
by
law,
and
the
law
requires
not
only
that
we
have
the
hearing
in
public
in
this
meeting,
but
also
there
be
a
time
fixed
for
the
hearing.
So
the
public
will
know
what
time
the
matter
is
going
to
be
considered.
It
is
item
IX
11.9
which
responds
to
a
complaint
filed
pursuant
to
the
development
charges
Act
and
the
Education
Act.
A
Anyone
present
who
wishes
to
speak,
including
the
complainant
will
address,
can
address
the
committee
on
this
item.
So
I
mentioned
that
only
because
at
10
o'clock
at
the
time
called
for
the
meeting
as
of
law,
we
will
have
to
revert
to
that
item
deal
with
it,
and
then
we
can
revert
back
to
the
rest
of
the
agenda
at
that
time.
So
before
we
begin,
the
rundown
I
would
like
to
add
an
item
of
business.
If
I
can.
A
The
proposed
item
is
entitled
city
building,
fund
and
I
understand
that
you
have
the
item
before
you
on
pink
paper
may
I
have
a
motion
to
add
this
new
item
to
the
agenda.
Councillor
Crawford
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie
I,
would
propose
with
the
concurrence
of
the
committee
that
we
consider
this
new
item
and
item
IX
11.1
value-based
outcome,
review
findings
together
as
the
first
and
second
item
of
business
today.
Is
this
agreeable
to
the
committee
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie?
Thank
you
very
much.
So
we
have.
A
Let
me
just
find
now
of
all
the
papers
here,
the
agenda
there
we
are.
We
have
26
items
on
the
agenda
and
I'm
ready
if
you
are
to
proceed
with
the
run
there,
and
that
would
start
with
e^x
11.1
and
we're
going
to
hold
that
for
a
presentation
and
four
speakers
and
that
will
be
held
together
with
what
I
guess
is
now.
Is
it
now
become
11.2
or
part
of
11.1?
The
other
eleven
point,
two
six?
A
A
Then
we
go
to
item
IX
11.3,
a
2020
rate,
supported
budget,
solid
waste
management
services
and
recommended
2020,
solid
waste
rates
and
fees
held
by
councillor
crawford
item
e^x
11.4
2020
rates,
supported
by
justanna
parking
authority
that
is
moved
by
councillor
Crawford
and
are
there
any
questions
or
discussion?
Otherwise,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie.
Thank
you.
Then
we
go
to
and
that
includes
4a
4b
4c.
Then
we
move
next
to
the
Toronto
public
art
strategy.
2020
2030
IEX
11.5
moved
by
Councillor
Crawford.
A
Are
there
any
question
held
by
a
counselor,
Thompson
II
IX
11.6,
the
Parkdale
hub
project
is
being
held
for
speakers
of
the
feasibility
study,
e^x
11.7
Metrolinx
Union,
Station
enhancement,
project
package
1
is
being
held
for
speakers,
e^x
11.8,
the
2020
tax-supported
interim
operating
and
capital
budget
estimates
moved
by
Councillor
crawford
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
carry
e^x
11.9.
A
This
is
the
timed
item
for
10
o'clock.
The
matter
I
referred
to
earlier
eleven
point:
nine
charge
Adel
develop
a
charge.
Fifty
five
sixty
three
Charles
Street
East
item
IX
11.10
office,
2018
office
of
emergency
management.
Updating
to
receive
the
report
for
information.
I
have
a
mover
councillor
Ainsley.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
thank
you
item,
11
point
e^x,
11.11,
creation
of
a
lesbian,
gay,
bisexual,
transgender,
queer
and
two-spirit
LGBTQ
2's,
plus
counsel
advisory
body
moved
by
councillor
Ainsley
any
further
discussion.
A
All
those
in
favor
opposed
character,
item
X,
11
point
12
progress
on
the
Rexdale
casino,
woodbine
community
benefits
agreement,
2019
update
is
being
held
for
speakers,
item
X,
11
point
13,
improving
communication
for
a
Toronto
Hydro
projects
and
there's
some
recommendations
here.
Coming
from
the
general
manager
of
transportation
services
held
by
councillor
by
our
deputy
mayor
bylaw
item
X
11
point
14
request
to
establish
a
community
police
office
at
200,
poplar
Road,
moved
by
a
councillor
Ainsley
any
discussion.
A
The
operating
variance
report
for
the
nine
months
ended
September
30th
2019
its
moved
by
councillor
Crawford
there
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry.
Now
that
includes
17
a
we
moved
to
e^x
11
point
18
reserves:
council
directed
an
obligatory
reserve
fund,
deferred
revenue,
balances
report,
September
30th
2019.
A
There
moved
by
councillor
Ainsley
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
the
item:
ax
11
point
21
City
of
Toronto
multi-year
accessibility
plan
2020
to
2025,
and
this
is
asking
the
City
Council
to
adopt
the
multi-year
accessibility
plan.
Do
I
have
a
mover
for
that
counselor
Ainsley.
Thank
you.
Any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
opposed
to
carry
item
e^x
11.20
to
employment,
accessibility
at
the
City
City
of
Toronto.
This
is
asking
us
to
ask
the
director
of
strategic
recruitment
to
provide
an
update
in
the
second
quarter
of
2020,
moved
by
Councillor
agency.
A
Again
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
the
item:
IX
11.23,
Toronto,
Transit,
Commission,
wheeled
trans
update
on
appeal
process
and
service
enhancements
as
there
any
discussion
on
that.
Otherwise,
I'd
asked
someone
to
move
the
recommendation,
which
is
some
request
to
wheel
trans,
to
have
some
meetings
to
discuss
this
further
and
provide
an
update
in
the
first
quarter
of
2020
councillor
Ansley.
Thank
you
very
much
any
discussion.
A
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item
IX
11.20
for
the
relocation
of
the
Etobicoke
Civic
Center,
and
that
is
recommending
a
number
of
things
that
the
City
Council
should
authorize,
create
tto
to
do
to
move
this
project
forward,
moved
by
Councillor
by
Lao
deputy
mayor
by
Lao.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item
e^x
11.25,
st.
Lawrence,
Center
redevelopment.
A
What's
the
first
item
that
we've
left
out
standing
on
the
okay
councillor,
Crawford
deputy
mayor
Robert,
you
you
held
the
11.2.
Is
that
going
to
be
a
lengthy
matter?
Do
we
think
with
a
lot
of
questions
from
members
to
the
otherwise?
We
could
deal
with
comments
or
questions
you
wanted
to
ask
and
try
and
do
that
in
the
next
12
minutes.
You
think
that's
reasonable
or
not
I.
Just.
C
C
D
I'll
try
my
best,
but
this
is
a
fear
to
be
a
requirement
from
a
financing
perspective.
We
do
have
some
projects
where
we
are
seeking
third
party
financing,
be
it
through
federal
government
program
such
as
we
have
received
funding
from
the
disaster
mitigation
assistance
funding
for
a
couple
projects,
so
within
the
capital
budgets
there
could
be
some
where
we
might
be
seeking
additional
monies
from
other
levels
of
government
or
in
certain
cases,
development
and
related
projects.
If
we
get
that
money,
then
we
would
proceed
with
that
project.
D
D
D
If
the
projects
are
taken
off
the
list
that
you
don't
receive
additional
funding,
do
we
do
we
get
a
list
of
the
projects
that
you
are
taking
off
the
list
through
mr.
Merrit,
we
wouldn't
be
taking
the
the
project
off
the
list.
All
it
does.
Is
it
gets
deferred?
We,
our
projects,
is
just
about
scheduling
over
the
ten
year
period
and
what
we
would
do
is
in
the
subsequent
report
identify
whether
we
think
it
is
a
priority
to
proceed.
D
Do
we
need
it
for
improvements
etc,
and
we
would
be
identifying
and
recommending
whether
we
needed
to
proceed
or
not
without
that
additional
funding,
so
it
wouldn't,
it
would
never
get
lost.
We
would
just
have
a
discussion
with
you
on
how
to
finance
it.
Yes,
so
with
the
with
the
local
council,
be
notified
of
the
projects
that
are
being
delayed
three
mr.
chair.
Yes,
we
always
provide
the
local
counselor
with
projects
that
are
moving
forward
in
price
in
schedules
or
or
their
deferred.
We
typically
provide
that
update
after
each
council
approved
budget.
D
So
in
the
new
year,
there'll
be
an
update
on
the
linear
programs
in
each
councilors
Awards.
So
any
of
the
projects
that
we
have
communicated,
then
we
we
would
notify
the
community
that
it's
in
fact
it's
being
delayed,
so
won't
happen
on
that.
That
we
anticipated
is.
That
is
that
the
case?
Mr.
mayor,
that's
correct.
We
would
give
you
an
update
on
the
project
timing
of
all
the
projects
within
each
councillors,
words
that
may
be
a
problem:
okay,
okay,
thanks.
B
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
few
comments
on
these
budgets
that
these
are
the
three
rate
budgets
between
solid
waste,
water
and
Toronto
parking
authority
that
sometimes
seem
to
race
through
the
process
fairly
quickly,
and
sometimes
we
don't
quite
recognize
the
importance
and
the
amount
of
work
that
actually
goes
involved,
and
not
only
that.
But
the
expenditures
that
are
involved
in
these
I
just
want
to
thank
the
on
this
one.
B
The
water
staff
for
the
incredible
work
that
they've
done
over
the
last
year,
bringing
a
budget
to
us
that
has
over
six
hundred
and
sixteen
million
dollars
worth
of
water
infrastructure
instead
of
good
repaired
digging
up
hundred-year-old
water
pipes
and
replacing
them
in
certain
areas
of
the
city,
highlighting
that
there's
a
hundred
and
thirty
million
dollars
of
basement
flooding
protection,
there's
almost
seventy
nine
million
dollars
to
stop
dumping
sewage
in
Lake,
Ontario
and
they're.
Actually,
in
this
budget,
beginning
process
of
a
new
organics
facility,
that
is
twelve
years
sooner.
B
The
spend
rate
when
you're
looking
at
capital
work
with
the
water
is
one
of
the
best
in
the
city.
They
have
a
tremendous
background
of
pulling
together
they're
there
spend
rates,
which
is
phenomenal
and
they've
done
this
with
doing
a
three
percent
water
increase.
As
we
can
all
recall,
we've
had
the
nine
over
nine
years
spending
increases
that
have
happened.
We
are
now
down
to
three
percent,
but
we're
increasing
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
investing
in
our
water
infrastructure.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
staff.
D
Want
to
make
a
few
comments
and
I
know
that
I've
mentioned
it
before
during
the
budget
process,
but
what's
really
important
and
I
think
that
we've
identified,
that
is,
we
need
to
communicate
to
the
residents
when
that
we
are
increasing
the
water
rates,
but
we
need
to
notify
the
residents
and
let
them
know
exactly
why
and
the
reason
and
the
projects
that
are
ongoing.
So
they
can
identify
that.
Yes,
in
fact,
we're
increasing
our
water
rates.
But
this
is
what
we're
getting
new
infrastructure
and
I
think
we
haven't
been
doing
that
and
I
think.
A
We
have
not
just
water,
that's
delivered
so
that
when
people
turn
on
the
tap
it
goes
on
every
morning
about
also
it's
safe
water
I
mean
our
water
quality.
I
think
is
something
that
is
we're
told
we
should
be
proud
of
and
I
think.
Indeed
we
should,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
staff
in
previous
times
and
the
staff
today
that
continue
to
do
that.
Work
and
I
know.
A
DJ
on
Mona's
team,
and
you
see
that
for
the
hundred
and
thirty
three
million
dollars
this
coming
year,
that
counts
there,
crawford
may
reverence
to
the
little
pockets
on
the
map
that
get
covered
for
that
amount
of
money.
Look
very
small
in
the
context
of
the
whole
city,
however,
they're
being
picked
on
the
basis
of
the
acute
nature
of
the
problem
in
those
areas
where
certainly
with
consonance
yada
I
have
been
to
the
houses
of
people.
A
Who
will
tell
us
that
they've
been
flooded
two
and
three
times
can't
get
any
insurance
anymore
and
that
those
are
the
places
in
these
relatively
compact
areas
where
we're
addressing
that
problem
first
and
spending
a
lot
of
money
doing
it,
but
I
think
the
public
have
an
obligation.
We
have
an
obligation
to
tell
them
not
just
that
we're
doing
that
work,
but
we're
we're
doing
it
because
they
may
say
well
how
come
is
not
being
done
in
my
neighborhood
and
we're
doing
it
in
an
orderly
fashion.
A
We're
doing
it
within
the
context
of
the
capacity
that
the
city
government
has
to
do
the
work
and
the
contracting
community,
but
I
think
the
councilor
is
right.
I
mean
we
have
to
sort
of
do
a
better
job
showing
what
we're
doing,
because,
indeed,
when
you
do
see
the
map
and
the
pockets
of
most
acute
basement
flooding
where
we
will
be
addressing
it
last
year,
this
year
and
next
year,
we
should
be
showing
those
maps
to
people
and
saying
look
we're
we're
on
this.
A
The
final
thing
that
I
just
want
to
comment
on-
and
this
is
something
that
is
going
to
be
of
great
importance
to
this
budget
this
year
and
to
our
future
budgeting
practices
going
forward,
and
that
is
that
this
department
deserves
commendation,
because,
while
you're,
never
in
a
situation
where
you
should
be
spending
money
for
the
sake
of
spending
money
and
saying
you
did
it,
so
you
can
tell
somebody
you
made
your
budget.
In
other
words,
you
expended
all
your
projected
you
should.
A
Nor
should
you
be
in
a
situation
where
we
have
been
with
many
of
our
departments
where
they
made
a
budget.
They
identified
priorities
that
had
to
be
addressed.
They
did
it
in
a
way
that
was
commensurate
with
the
city's
to
deliver
and
then
ended
up
spending,
say
60%
of
what
had
been
budgeted
that
only
not
only
causes
us
to
have
to
have
perhaps
unrealistic
expectations
as
to
what
we
can
take
in
from
the
taxpayers.
A
But
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
want
to
thank
them
that
the
whole
team
for
their
professional
approach
to
this,
but
also
to
indicate
that
we
are
as
a
team
and
I
think
councillor
Crawford,
would
concur
in
this
going
to
be
keeping
a
much
more
careful
eye
on
sort
of
saying.
Look
when
you
budget
a
certain
amount.
Is
it
realistic
to
assume
we're
going
to
get
that
work
done,
and
then
we
should
be
budgeting
and
at
this
time
in
this
year,
because
it
also
creates
an
expectation
on
the
part
of
the
public.
A
Think
you're
gonna
see
some
of
that
reform
coming
this
year,
so
my
main
message
would
be
to
say
thank
you
to
this
department,
because
they've
set
an
example,
I
think
in
terms
of
responsible
budgeting
and
investment
and,
in
most
importantly,
maintaining
a
safe,
reliable
supply
of
drinking
water,
with
what
I
consider
to
be
a
relatively
modest
rate
increase
this
year
in
the
context
of
inflation
and
their
own
rising
costs
so
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
patience
in
that
and
are
there
any
other
speakers?
A
If
not,
then
I
will
ask
that
we
call
the
question
on
that
matter
of
the
great
supported
budget
item
ex
11.2.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
so
I
think
it
being
around
ten
o'clock
two
minutes
past.
It
is
time
to
move
to
the
item
that
I've
made
reference
to
which
is
e^x
eleven
point:
nine
development
charge
and
education
development
charge
complaint,
respecting
fifty
five
to
sixty
three
Charles
Street
East
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
A
This
is
a
statutory
public
meeting
and
it
is
held
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
the
development
charges,
Act
and
the
Education
Act.
We
have
one
registered
speaker
on
this
item.
If
there
is
anyone
else
here
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
item,
please
let
the
clerk
know
beside
me
here
so
that
we
can
make
sure
to
call
on
you
before
we
proceed
to
other
aspects
of
this
procedure
and
on
that
note,
I
will
ask
Andrew
Baker
counsel
to
the
Toronto
Catholic
District
School
Board,
to
come
forward
and
speak.
A
Good
morning,
mr.
Baker,
if
you
can
guess
that
up
there,
if
you
have
to
and
I'm
here
all
set-
and
you
have
five
minutes
and
people
may
have
some
questions
for
you
but
you're
happy
to
take
all
of
the
five
minutes
that
you
need
and
make
your
submissions
and
you
can
sit
or
stand
as
you
feel
most
comfortable.
Happy.
F
To
stand
Thank
You
members
of
Executive
Committee
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
Toronto
Catholic
District
School
Board,
as
their
counsel
and
the
matter
before
you
today
is
in
respect
of
a
request
from
a
development
at
55,
Charles
Street
that
seeks
repayment
of
both
development
charges
in
education,
development
charges.
It's
a
rather
straightforward,
factual
scenario
where
100
existing
dwelling
units
on
that
site
are
being
replaced
by
a
proposed
condominium
and
apartment
residence,
and
in
this
matter
the
developer
has
prepaid
all
of
those
charges.
F
Because,
as
of
the
date
at
which
the
developer
pulled
the
permits
for
the
new
proposed
building
at
641
units,
they
did
not
have
an
existing
demolition.
Permit.
I,
don't
understand
the
basis
for
that.
Normally
one
pulls
a
demolition
permit
and
then
a
building
permit.
It
may
have
something
to
do
with
the
existing
rental
housing
in
place
at
the
time.
F
In
any
event,
the
what
occurred
in
thereafter
was
staff
prepared
a
report
recommending
repayment
of
all
of
the
development
charges
and
the
education
development
charges
on
the
basis
that
the
existing
DC
bylaw
and
the
existing
EDC
bylaw
provide
for
this
exemption
in
cases
where
you're
replacing
an
existing
dwelling
unit.
Now,
that
is
true,
but
the
staff
report
has
indicated
on
the
basis
of
section
16
of
the
EDC,
bylaw
and
I.
F
Don't
know
if
the
members
of
the
committee
have
that
in
front
of
them
that
that
was
the
basis
for
the
exemption
and
from
the
perspective
of
the
Toronto
Catholic
District
School
Board,
the
unfortunately,
a
strict
reading
of
the
EDC
bylaw
does
not.
This
exemption
does
not
find
basis
in
any
section
under
the
existing
EDC
bylaw.
F
Now
it's
one
of
these
situations,
where
an
unfortunate
factual
scenario
and
strict
adherence
to
the
law
makes
for
a
bad
situation.
The
TC
d
SB
would
take
the
position
that
had
the
demolition
permit
been
pulled
prior
to
the
building
permit.
In
this
case,
then,
this
developer
would
have
been
entitled
to
refund
of
the
EDC's
in
this
case,
but
the
case
law
states
that
the
municipal
council
cannot
waive
a
strict
mandatory
provision
of
the
EDC
bylaw.
You
have
to
read
it
in
a
very,
very
strict
sense
again
from
the
perspective
of
the
TC
d
SB.
F
We
don't
know
the
reason
why
the
permitting
sequence
was
done
in
the
way
that
it
was
done,
but
in
the
instance
I'm
instructed
by
the
superintendent
of
development
and
planning
at
the
TC
d
SB,
he
does
not
have
delegated
authority
to
waive
this
provision
under
the
EDC
act.
His
mandate
is
to
enforce
the
EDC
bylaw
to
the
strict
letter
of
the
wording
of
the
bylaw,
and
so
unfortunately,
in
the
circumstances
we
find
ourselves,
there
was
no
additional
trustee
meeting
of
the
Toronto
catholic
district
school
board
trustees
prior
to
this
hearing.
F
So
his
instructions
to
me
as
council
were
to
file
this
letter
in
opposition
to
this
municipal
council
waving
the
EDC's.
We
take
no
position
on
the
d
c--
element
of
the
complaint
now,
given
these
unique,
factual
situation
in
this
case,
I
am
instructed
by
the
superintendent
of
planning
and
development
at
the
TC
GSB
to
offer.
F
All
of
this
is
set
out
in
the
letter
that
I
provided
to
Executive
Committee
dated
December
10th
2019
I
can
go
into
the
details
of
the
specific
wording
of
the
EDC
bylaw
and
why
council
takes
this
position
and
why
the
Superintendent
of
Planning
and
Development
is
sort
of
forced
to
take
this
position
on
this
matter
before
you
today,
but
I
will
defer
that
to
questions.
Thank
you.
A
F
A
You've
helped
that
you've
set
out
that
question
much
better
than
I
could
have
ever.
Thank
you
a
little
rusty
on
the
law
these
days.
Thank
you
very
much
other
other
questions
so
far,
mr.
Traeger,
okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
this
morning.
Thank
you.
We
then
have
we
do
have
a
second
person
wishing
to
speak
and
that's
the
counsel
for
the
applicant
David,
bronze
Gil
and
the
applicant
or
representative
thereof,
directly.
Okay,
good
morning,
gentlemen,
you
have
the
same
five
minutes
and
there
may
be
some
questions.
Thank.
G
You
your
worship,
my
name
is
David
Brown
skill.
We
are
counsel
for
the
applicant
I'm
joined
by
Gary
Switzer
of
mod,
who
is
the
applicant
for
this
approved
project.
What
you
have
before
you
and
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear-
is
a
development
charge
complaint
related
only
to
a
component
of
the
development
charges
for
this
site?
It's
not
all
of
the
development
charges.
I
just
wanted
to
be
very
clear
about
that.
What
counsel
approved
in
July
of
2019
was
a
48
story,
building
that
at
541
condominium
units
and
a
hundred
replacement
residential
rental
units.
G
The
DC
complaint
is
only
in
respect
of
those
100
units,
so
the
DCs
for
the
541
have
been
paid
and
no
refund
or
credit
is
being
sought
in
respect
of
the
DCs
for
those
541
units.
As
part
of
that
approval
and
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
permitting
for
this
proceeded
in
the
way
that
it
did
was
the
section
37
agreement
worked
out
for
this
site,
actually
secures
the
provision,
renovation
and
transfer
to
the
city
of
a
property
at
218
Carlton
that
will
be
affordable
housing.
It's
about
5,700
square
feet.
G
G
However,
council
also,
as
a
standard
said
to
both
the
chief
planner
and
the
chief
building
official.
You
can't
issue
those
building
for
those
demolition
permits
until
you
have
a
building
permit.
That
says
the
project
is
starting
an
excavation,
ensuring
permit
and
again
that's
standard
and
appropriate.
We
don't
want
to
demolish
the
existing
rental
units
on
the
site
until
the
project
is
proceeding.
G
That's
why,
then,
when
my
client
then
applied
for
the
various
permits
and
got
building
permits
on
October
31st
2019,
it
wasn't
possible
to
actually
have
the
demolition
permit
in
hand,
because
we
needed
to
get
the
excavation
ensuring
permit
in
order
then
to
have
the
demolition
permit.
So
it's
a
sequencing
that
actually
comes
out
of
the
City
Council
resolution.
So
when
October
31st
the
permits
were
issued,
the
development
charges
were
paid.
G
What
we're
talking
about
overall
was
almost
eighteen
million
in
development
charges
to
the
city
about
1.1
or
1.2
in
education,
development
charges
to
the
Toronto
Catholic
District,
School
Board,
the
refund
that
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
Toronto
Catholic
District
School
Board,
is
a
little
over
one
hundred
and
seventy
nine
thousand
dollars.
That's
what
I'm
here
quibbling
about
with
outside
counsel
is
about
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
I'm,
not
quite
sure.
Why
we're
doing
that,
but
we
are
and
what
I
would
suggest
in
terms
of
what's
before.
G
You
is
the
best
way
of
proceeding
and
acknowledging
what
city
staff
have
in
the
report
in
front
of
you
is
not
to
defer
the
item,
send
it
to
Council
with
the
recommendation
from
city
staff.
That's
to
provide
the
refund
the
Toronto
Kathu
District
School
Board
does
have
the
right
under
the
legislation,
so
they
want
to
to
appeal
that
decision
from
Council
they'd
have
40
days
to
do
that.
G
I'm,
going
to
suggest
that's
more
than
enough
time
for
the
superintendent
to
go
to
the
board
of
trustees
and
seek
the
requisite
authorization
either
to
accept
a
staff
recommendation
or
to
oppose
it
on
an
appeal.
I
would
hope
for
$180,000,
rather
than
spending
it
on
their
outside
counsel
and
mod
spending
on
their
counsel.
That
that
time,
that
sufficient
opportunity
for
the
matter
just
to
be
put
to
an
end
and
to
allow
this
project
to
continue,
because
otherwise,
what
happens
under
the
principle
of
development
charges,
growth
paying
for
growth?
G
Really,
what
happens
is
the
existing
units
are
replaced?
That's
not
growth
and
development
charges
are
then
paid
in
respect
of
just
replacing
those
existing
units.
So,
in
terms
of
an
equitable
perspective
in
terms
of
development
charges
having
growth
pay
for
growth,
the
right
result
at
the
end
of
the
day
in
terms
of
all
replacement
projects
in
the
city,
is
to
ensure
that
they
are
replaced,
but
that
we're
then
not
charging
development
charges
for
them.
G
The
541
units
will
still
have
all
of
their
full
DC's
paid
it'll
only
be
the
replacement
units
and
I
think
that's
a
compromise.
That's
keeping
in
the
spirit
of
the
letter
from
the
Toronto
Catholic,
District,
School
Board,
they
haven't
said,
don't
do
this.
They
said
defer.
It
I
appreciate
them,
saying
that
I'm
saying
rather
than
a
deferral
authorize
it,
but
then
they
have
40
days
still
to
seek
direction
from
the
Board
of
Trustees
as
to
whether
they
want
to
contest
it
and
I
think
that's
an
appropriate
way
to
allow
this
to
go
forward.
G
A
H
You
watch
the
mr.
mayor,
mr.
Rothfeld,
so
the
you're
saying
to
us
to
allow
you
and
the
this
award
to
resolve
this
issue
through
a
mediated
process
and
that
council,
obviously
in
terms
of
the
area
of
reimbursement
that
we're
authorizing
from
our
side
that
proceeds
and
the
amount
that
we're
being
asked
to
sort
of
adjudicate.
If
you
will
can
be
done
through
a
process
that
is
much
more
appropriate
for
this
matter
to
be
dealt
with
through
you.
G
Mr.
chair
technically
council
has
the
jurisdiction
and
must
decide
on
both
specs
of
the
complaint.
So
council
has
to
both
authorize
the
refund
for
the
cities
TCS
and
also
the
refund
for
the
EDC's.
What
I'm
suggesting
is
the
staff
recommendation
is
to
do
that
so,
except
the
staff
recommendation
send
that
recommendation
to
Council
and
have
counsel
do
that.
G
The
spirit
of
the
letter
that
I
took
from
the
Catholic
school
board
and
I
appreciate
that
spirit
was,
we
think
technically
this
maybe
shouldn't
proceed,
but
we
don't
have
opportunity
for
our
staff
to
get
authorization
from
their
instructing
body,
which
would
be
their
board
of
trustees.
A
Kansas,
City
Council
so
give
us
time
to
do
that
and
I'm
saying
I
appreciate
that,
but
time
for
this
project,
when
it's
got
the
affordable
housing
component
is
a
difficult
thing.
G
There's
enough
time
built
into
the
legislation
that
if
you
make
a
decision
and
authorize
both
technically
the
Catholic
District
School
Board
could
appeal
that
180,
but
I
think
they'd
have
enough
time
to
get
the
requisite
instructions.
At
that
moment
and
at
a
minimum
the
matter
would
proceed
forward.
The
city
component
would
be
refunded
and
we
could
resolve
the
180.
Should
the
Board
of
Trustees
instruct
staff
to
appeal
fair
enough.
G
A
Thank
you.
Other
questions
can
I
just
follow
up
on
that,
because
I
think
it
was
a
very
useful
question,
because
what
I
heard
you
to
say
and
I
think
you
just
reiterated
it
is
that
if
we
approve
this,
there's
not
gonna
be
any
further
process,
except
insofar
as
the
school
board
decide,
the
Catholic
school
board
decides
it
wishes
to
appeal,
but
otherwise
there
will
be
no
other
process
to
try
and
carve
up
one
hundred
eighty
thousand
and
see
if
you
should
pay
some
or
they
should
pay.
You
know,
except
for
it.
A
That
will
be
it
if
they
want
to
appeal
fine
and
if
they
don't,
though,
that's
the
end
of
it
correct
right.
Okay,
so
yes,
your
worship,
good,
any
other
questions.
Anybody
has
on
this
right.
Then
we
will
thank
you
very
much
for
the
deputation
and
we
then
would
move
next
to
questions
of
staff.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
City
Council
here
who
are
not
members
of
the
committee
wishing
to
ask
questions
of
staff?
Okay,
then
we
would
go
to
questions
of
staff
by
committee
members
yeah
there,
any
I
have
one
of
no
one
else.
A
Does
I
mean
I,
just
ask
the
the
city's
say:
sister
staff
I
just
want
a
comment
on
this
submission
made
by
mr.
Baker
with
regard
to
calling
into
question.
In
effect
whether
or
not
this
waiver
which
leads
to
this
recommendation
was
properly
done.
If
that
is
in
fact
what
happened.
I
just
heard
him
talk
about
section,
257,
85
and
the
Education
Act,
and
he
articulated
his
my
question
better
than
I
could
have
done.
That
I
wondered
if
you
might
comment
on
that.
D
Think
in
the
answering
that
question,
we
have
to
consider
the
role
of
comedian
counsel
that
we're
currently
in
in
terms
of
holding
a
hearing
under
the
DC
complaint,
a
hearing
which
is
authorized
by
both
the
development
charges
act
and
the
Education
Act.
So
I
I
would
respectfully
disagree
with
the
characterization
of
what's
before
you
as
a
waiver,
because
staff
made
a
calculation
of
what
appropriate
DC's
were
and
whether
or
not
the
credit
applied.
D
My
opinion,
what
we're
looking
at
here
is
not
a
waiver
staff
staff
collected
DC's,
exercised
their
best
professional
judgment
and
then
reviewing
the
facts
in
question.
Raw
report
making
recommendations
and
put
that
report
before
committee,
which
now
sits
as
a
quasi
judicial
body
holding
a
statutory
hearing,
so
I
don't
think
I
would
qualify
it
as
a
waiver
and
I
think
the
question
of
what
to
refund
and
what
not
refund
is
very
properly
before
this
committee
has
a
quasi-judicial
body
in
this
instance,
and
just.
A
To
be
clear
on
the
main
point
of
what
you're
saying
you
did
you
have
considered,
then
this
issue
of
the
waiver
in
Section,
257
85
of
the
Education
Act,
can
feel
that
it's
not
applicable
as
opposed
to
whether
you
were
right
or
wrong.
It
just
didn't
apply
in
this
circumstance.
I
think
that's
what
you're
saying
correct.
D
Yes
or
insofar
as
there
is
a
right
of
appeal,
if
insofar
as
d'oeurves
the
right
to
request
a
hearing
from
which
flows
the
right
of
appeal
to
me,
a
waiver
is
a
is
an
administrative
staff
decision
where
staff
makes
a
decision
in
the
respect
of
the
act
is
to
collect
development
charges.
In
my
view,
that
is
not
what's
happening
here.
In
my
view,
development
charges
were
calculated
based
on
staff's
best
professional
judgment
and
after
that,
a
process
by
the
applicant,
a
statutory
process
was
initiated,
which
is
resulting.
A
In
this
hearing,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
no
other
questions.
Anybody
else
and
one
other
thing
I
didn't
do
I'm
supposed
to
ask
one
more
time
after
the
two
speakers
is
there.
Anybody
else
who
came
here
wishing
to
speak
on
this
matter,
we're
just
required
because
it's
a
pursuant
to
law
that
do
we
check
on
that
I
see
no
one.
Okay!
Are
there
any
other
speakers?
Are
there
any
speakers?
A
A
Council
authorized
the
city
chief
financial
officer
and
treasurer
in
consultation
with
the
city,
solicitor
and
chief
building
official
to
reimburse
mod
developments,
Charles
LP
and
amount
up
to
two
thousand
four
hundred
and
sixty
three
thousand
and
sixty
dollars
of
city's
development
charges
and
179
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
of
Toronto
District
Catholic
school
board's,
Education
Development
charges
for
the
one
hundred
rental
replacement
units
at
fifty
five
sixty
three
Charles
Street
East.
The
funds
will
be
withdrawn
from
associated
from
associated
the
development
charge.
A
J
K
M
I'd
like
to
introduce
mark
MacDonald,
who
is
a
partner
with
Ernst
&
Young
and
was
the
lead
on
the
value-based
outcome.
Review
report
he's
also
joined
by
Faheem
Khan
cotta,
dirt,
no
I'm.
Sorry
Fahim
was
also
instrumental
in
working
with
city
staff
as
well
as
agency
staff,
during
the
compilation
of
all
the
information
that
led
to
the
report
today,
and
they
will
be
here
to
help
answer
questions
so.
E
With
that
I
just
want
to
before
we
get
into
the
presentation,
just
draw
your
attention
to
really
three
basic
findings
from
the
ey
investigation.
The
first
is
that
the
City
of
Toronto
is
paying
for
regional
services
that
benefit
people
beyond
our
borders.
Secondly,
that,
as
we
had
Heather
and
I
have
in
the
2020
or
2019
budget
had
indicated
that
there
were
certain
concerns
that
we
had
with
the
capital
plan.
E
What
UI
is
done
is
verified
those
concerns
and
we'll
talk
more
about
that
in
a
few
minutes
and
then
finally,
we
had
given
a
why
full
authority
to
investigate
any
and
all
deficiencies
that
we
should
be
considering
as
staff,
and
certainly
it
was
council
over
the
coming
years.
And
so
that's
what
you
have
in
the
document
is
their
opinions
as
to
what
it
is
that
we
could
be
considering
in
the
way
of
finding
efficiencies.
E
Next
slide.
I'm
not
going
to
read
this
to
you
except
to
say
that,
in
that
the
city
of
Toronto
has
in
the
past
is
in
the
present
and
will
be
in
the
future
one
of
the
most
significant
socio-economic
and
cultural
cities,
not
only
in
Canada
but
in
North
America,
and
really
the
evidence
that
we
have
here
in
terms
of
quick
facts.
I
think
does
point
to
that,
some
of
which
I'll
talk
about
in
more
detail
in
a
few
minutes.
Next
slide.
E
E
Immigration
is
going
to
continue
to
drive
that
growth
well
into
the
future.
If
immigration
policies
of
the
federal
government
weren't
in
place
we'd
be
experiencing
a
declining
population
and
with
that
declining
population,
we'd
also
be
experiencing
an
aging
population,
so
we
are
quite
fortunate
to
have
a
circumstance
where
one
of
the
most
diversified
cities
in
the
world
is
going
to
continue
to
diversify
and
is
going
to
continue
to
rely
on
a
variety
of
services
that
we
provide,
but
certainly
with
greater
focus
on
community
and
social
services
that
we
provide
here
at
the
city
next
slide.
E
E
Put
that
in
context
the
GTHA
is
going
to
grow
by
about
3
million
people,
so
we're
responsible
for
a
million
about
another
million,
we'll
be
in
the
vicinity
of
Mississauga,
and
then
the
balance
will
be
throughout
the
GTHA.
If
you're
to
look
at
this
on
a
map,
what
it
really
tells
you
is
that
Toronto
moving
westward
Lee
is
going
to
be
shouldering
the
bulk
of
that
growth.
Now,
the
next
two
slides
I
just
want
to
point
out
something
about
the
region
that
we
exist
in
so
next
slide.
E
So
when
I
look
at
that,
I
think
about
that
in
terms
of
where
people
live
and
where
people
work
Toronto
is
going
to
continue
to
Mead
remain
a
major
source
of
employment
and
people
are
having
to
make
decisions
about
where
to
live
relative
to
this
economic
Center.
And
so
what
we
see
happening
is
the
urbanization
of
a
very
large
region
that
Canada
has
relied
on
for
for
decades
and
will
continue
to
rely
on
as
well
the
province
of
Ontario.
E
E
But
conversely,
35%
aren't
and
I
know
the
efforts
that
were
made
previously
to
try
and
toll
that
facility
for
the
purposes
of
trying
to
extract
payment
of
that
facility
and,
as
you
well
know,
in
our
state
of
good
repair,
almost
half
of
all
the
monies
that
we're
spending
in
the
next
ten
year
are
going
to
sustain
or
maintain
the
Gardiner,
Expressway
and,
of
course,
the
next,
the
13%
of
all
trips.
On
the
TTC
starter
and
outside
of
Toronto.
E
It's
no
small
matter
that,
within
the
last
12
months
we
discovered
or
were
reported
to
that
we
have
a
33
and
a
half
billion
dollar
state.
A
good
repair
challenge
to
address
with
the
TTC
I
must
admit.
When
I
first
started
with
this
organization,
I
thought
that
the
number
we
were
pursuing
was
in
the
order
of
about
6
billion,
so
to
witness
a
500%
increase
in
your
state
of
good
repair
cost.
To
maintain
what
is
a
vital
piece
of
infrastructure
for
the
City
of
Toronto
certainly
drew
my
attention
as
well.
E
Toronto
is
a
focal
point
for
people
that
are
wanting
to
start
their
lives
in
a
great
country,
and
so
we
are
certainly,
as
I
said
from
the
very
outset
bearing
the
full
cost
of
that
burden
with
not
as
much
help
as
I
think
we
ought
to
be
receiving
so
before
I
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
just
want
to
say
a
city
manager.
It's
really
my
job
to
when
I
join
an
organization
like
this
to
first
and
foremost,
look
at
how
we
govern
matters
related
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
E
By
that
I
mean
how
I
relate
to
the
mayor
and
council
in
terms
of
all
the
committees
and
procedures
that
we
follow
to
make
decisions,
but
also
how
it
is
that,
as
a
senior
civil
servant,
how
I
work
with
other
senior
civil
servants
to
ensure
that
the
overall
design
and
organization
of
the
of
the
city
staff
is
done
in
in
a
in
a
best
practice
sort
of
way.
So
governance
is
obviously
important.
E
The
second
piece,
that's
really
important
to
a
city
manager,
is
the
focus
that
the
organization
has
and
that
focus
has
to
be
connected
to
the
the
directions
that
Council
provides
when
it
meets
and
makes
decisions,
and
then
thirdly,
it's
critically
important
that
we
demonstrate
value
for
the
taxpayers
dollar
and
that
and
finally,
that
we
provide
solutions
to
you
to
the
problems
that
we
face
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
So
with
that,
this
is
a
document
that
summarizes
on
one
page
what
we
call
the
corporate
strategic
plan.
E
E
If
we
want
to
sustain
the
economy
of
this
great
city,
then
we
obviously
need
to
ensure
that
we
have
housing,
that's
affordable
and,
of
course,
keeping
Toronto
moving,
and
we
called
it
that,
because
it
is
about
people
and
goods.
Although
right
now,
as
you
well
know,
there
is
tremendous
emphasis
being
placed
on
transit
and,
of
course,
the
people
and
the
neighborhoods
that
are
finding
themselves
struggling,
an
interesting
fact,
and
one
that
has
all
of
your
attention
is
that
our
middle
class
is
starting
to
shrink
and
that
we're
finding
more
and
more
people
struggling
in
poverty.
E
E
That's
occurring
unprecedented
within
the
you
know
the
continent
that
we're
on
you
know
resolving
how
it
is
that
we
can
help
people
achieve
a
great
quality
of
life,
given
all
the
economic
activity
that
we're
facing
is
a
good
problem
to
have
because
I
know
many
other
cities
don't
have
that
kind
of
challenge
to
address,
and
then,
of
course,
we
cannot
ignore
the
realities
of
climate
change
and
the
need
to
ensure
that
we
build
cities
that
are
resilient,
and
so
with
that
I'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
Heather.
Okay,.
M
Thanks
Chris,
so
what
I
want
to
share
with
you
is
what
work
is
actually
underway
with
regards
to
one
of
the
key
priorities
on
on
the
strategic
plan
and
that's
financial
sustainability.
A
critical
part
of
financial
sustainability
is
about
having
the
the
timely,
reliable
information
to
ensure
that
we're
making
informed
decisions
being
focused
on
outcomes
is
also
a
key
element
to
do
this
right.
It's
going
to
take
some
time
when
I
arrived,
which
was
just
just
over
a
year
ago.
M
My
first
focus
was
on
budget
modernization
and,
as
I
worked
on
it,
it
became
apparent
that
we
need
reliable,
timely
information.
We
need
systems
and
policies
to
help
that
information.
Over
the
last
year,
we
have
initiated
projects
that
drive
the
city
towards
financial
sustainability.
The
ey
report
validated
this
work,
which
is
driving
the
city
towards
financial
sustainability,
the
budget
modernization,
as
I
mentioned.
That
was
one
of
my
first
priorities.
We
are
on
a
four-year
journey
that
will
deliver
a
multi-year
service
based
budget
at
the
end
of
that
four
years,
our
financial
systems.
M
We
need
to
address
the
fine,
the
fundamentals
of
our
systems
and
the
policies
that
support
decision
making.
We've
looked
at
innovation
and
we've
experimented
with
innovation
over
the
last
year
and
we're
looking
for
solutions
that
address
how
we
do
our
business
not
just
now,
but
also
in
the
future.
Capital
asset
management
is
a
key
area.
This
needs
a
holistic
understanding
of
the
capital,
city's
capital
assets,
the
capital
assets,
useful
life,
the
state
of
good
repair
and
where
there
are
opportunities
to
improve
where
we're
investing
and
when
we're
investing
and,
lastly,
the
organizational
design.
M
The
value-based
outcome
review
is
the
title
that
we
gave
our
project
and,
as
you
may
recall,
in
the
spring
of
this
year,
the
province
announced
an
audit
and
accountability
fund.
We
commissioned
a
report
which
was
funded
by
the
province
and,
as
I
mentioned,
financial
sustainability
is
about
having
finite,
better
financial
information,
and
this
was
an
opportunity
for
us
to
take
advantage
of
the
public
funding
to
do
it.
M
The
key
elements
of
this
particular
report
were
to
identify
efficiencies,
maintain
our
existing
service
levels
and
we
were
not
intending
to
identify
any
new
revenue
options
or
evaluate
our
revenue
streams.
The
reason
that
this
is
highlighted
is
that
was
a
key
element,
a
key
condition
for
the
provinces
funding.
This
was
accomplished
by
undertaking
a
detailed
financial
review
of
the
last
four
years
of
financial
data,
interviewing
city
and
agency
leadership,
and
this
has
resulted
in
Ian
Weis
report
today.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
walk
you
through
some
of
the
findings.
M
A
critical
challenge
in
delivering
these
services
is
that
these
services
are
used
across
the
region,
not
just
by
the
citizens
of
Toronto,
and
the
citizens
of
Toronto
today
are
the
ones
that
are
paying
for
it.
This
is
a
structural
challenge
that
we
need
to
address.
A
positive
finding
in
the
report
is
that
the
operating
budget
based
on
the
current
service
levels
is
balanced
and
is
sustainable.
M
The
VBO
R
identifies
opportunities
to
deliver
better
value,
find
efficiencies
and
drive
savings
staff
are
using
this
advice
from
the
consultants
to
inform
how
we'll
be
more
efficient
in
the
future.
These
are
a
wise
observations,
their
objective
advice,
some
of
these
efficiencies
are
short-term.
Some
are
long-term
and
some
will
take
time.
M
We
will
bring
forward
any
required
direction
and
just
on
decisions
towards
these
efficiencies
for
consideration
at
the
appropriate
time,
a
very
critical
confirmation
by
the
VBO.
Our
report
is
that
we
have
been
managing
the
growth
that
Chris
mentioned
through
efficiencies
we
have
grown
by
over
400,000
in
the
last
10
years,
and
the
review
found
that
we
can
continue
to
do
this.
We
can't
continue
to
manage
projected
growth,
as
Chris
mentioned
on
efficiencies
alone.
The
most
time
sensitive
and
important.
Finding
in
the
report
was
the
review
and
the
immediated
immediate
risks
associated
to
the
capital
plan.
M
The
capital
plan
achieve
ability
and
affordability,
our
capital
spend
rate
to
date
is
best
below
is
below
best
practices.
Excuse
me
due
in
part
by
when
we,
as
an
organization
get
to
the
market
and
the
ability
of
the
market
to
deliver.
Our
capital
plan
is
built
on
assumptions
we
need
to
be.
We
need
to
redress
and
reevaluate
the
assumptions
that
have
built
the
10
year,
capital
plan,
to
ensure
that
it's
affordable
to
ensure
that
it's
achievable.
M
And
as
Chris
summarized,
there
were
three
takeaways
from
the
report:
the
need
for
a
regional
approach,
regional
solutions
to
deal
with
some
of
the
city's
pressures,
the
need
to
recast
the
capital
plan
and
the
opportunity
to
be
a
more
efficient
organization
working
on
solutions
with
other
governments.
For
example,
last
year
we
identified
the
need
for
funding
from
the
federal
government
with
regards
to
refugees.
A
year
ago,
we
didn't
have
funds
to
help
us
deal
with
the
TC
HC
housing
backlog.
M
A
year
ago
we
didn't
know
the
full
cost
to
keep
the
TTC
running,
and
we
didn't
have
a
partner
on
transit
expansion,
pursuing
solutions
for
efficiencies.
We
will
look
at
the
vb
o
r
and
consider
the
advice.
It's
prudent
management
to
constantly
look
to
find
efficiencies.
As
mentioned
when
we
launched
the
2019
capital
plan,
we
said
that
we
would
be
revisiting
and
recasting
the
capital
plan,
we're
introducing
and
implementing
industry
best
practices,
such
as
stage
gating.
We
are
going
to
look
at
year-round
procurement.
M
We
are
looking
at
multi-year
procurement,
all
of
which
will
enable
us
to
do
better
in
estimating
what
investments
are
needed
and
when
they're
needed
all
other
work
to
improve
financial
sustainability
does
continue
like
budget
modernisations
and
the
improvement
of
our
financial
systems.
So
those
are
our
key
findings.
We're
happy
to
take
questions.
Ey
is
also
here
to
help
with
any
questions
that
are
technical
of
nature.
A
Thank
you
very
much
to
both
of
you
and
you
have
your
associates
there
who
worked
on
the
report
with
you
so
now
we're
to
the
stage
I
believe
where
we
would
have
questions
which
can
be
of
staff
or
of
the
presenters,
and
we
would
start
with
members
of
council
who
are
visiting
with
us
at
the
executive
committee
today
to
I.
Since
that's
why
you're
with
us,
for,
among
other
reasons
councillors
I've,
got
all
kinds
of
reasons
to
be
well
there
you
go
so
your
first
just.
K
K
The
recommendation
in
the
report
item-
one
that's
in
front
of
us-
is
that
we
receive
the
report
so
we're
we're
not
you're,
not
asking
us
to
give
you
any
new
authorities
or
take
any
new
policy
options
or
implement
any
of
the
the
pieces
in
the
Ernst
&
Young
report,
you're
merely
showing
it
to
us
to
give
us
context
for
decisions
we
might
make
down
the
road.
Is
that
correct,
you're.
K
M
M
K
M
K
K
K
E
A
K
H
N
You
mr.
mayor,
so
thank
you
for
talking
to
us
about
the
report
and
there's
something
I
wanted
to
ask
about
that
appeared
on
page
four
of
the
staff
report
in
nine
of
the
E&Y
report.
Maybe
you
can
unpack
it
in
a
couple
of
minutes
that
I've
got
it.
Talks
about
the
V
bore
identifying
the
city's
policy
response
to
income
inequality,
poverty
and
affordability.
Issues
has
resulted
in
a
greater
role
as
a
service
provider
and
administrator
and
on
and
on
than
many
other
comparable
municipalities.
G
Go
through
the
mayor,
the
the
examination
takes
a
look
only
at
those
policy
decisions.
Obviously
that
are
historical
and
then
have
had
an
expenditure
impact
over
the
period
that
we
addressed
so
2015
to
2018.
In
this
particular
case,
what
were
what
we're
saying
there
is
that
the
city
and,
as
you
hear,
the
city
manager
outline
some
of
the
challenges-
has
made
a
clear
set
of
policy
decisions
that
have
included
policies
and
programs
aimed
at
the
redistribution
of
income,
how
you
support
people,
conditions
of
vulnerability.
G
The
many
many
governments
that
also
engage
in
such
policy
decisions
have
additional
revenue
instruments.
Then
the
city
does
so
that
in
a
sense
they
have
income
based
policy
instruments
on
the
revenue
side.
What
we're
saying
here
is
that
the
city
primarily
has
a
property
based
set
of
revenue
instruments,
and
most
of
the
funding
that
has
gone
into
these
redistributive
policies
and
programs
have
come
off
of
a
property
base,
as
opposed
to
an
income
revenue
base
is.
N
It
fair
to
say
that
everyone
pays
property
taxes
directly
or
indirectly
right.
So,
if
you
rent
a
place,
you
pay
the
landlord
money,
and
presumably
some
of
your
rent
goes
to
pay.
The
costs
of
the
landlord
is
the
property
tax
system,
the
right
system
to
use
to
redistribute
income,
because
the
principle
is
is
those
that
are
making
lots
of
income
are
the
ones
that
we
would
want
to
target
to
try
to
balance
things
out,
and
you
know
other
governments
do
that
right,
federal
and
provincial,
because
they've
got
that,
but
but
we've
chosen
the
income
tax.
G
Through
the
mayor's,
so
the
reason
is
is
that
we
do
not
I
mean
we
are
not
making
a
set
of
policy
recommendations.
That
is
harsh,
obviously
palatal.
All
that
we're
saying
here
is
that
there,
through
the
analysis,
there
is
a
difference
between
what
some
governments
have
on
a
revenue
instrument
basis
versus
what
the
city
is
through.
It
is
your
choices
obvious,
like
that,
have
been
reflected
so.
N
Through
them
merits
of
staff,
I
guess
help
me
understand.
You
talked
about
a
few
of
the
programs
here.
Are
we
compelled
anywhere
other
than
by
choice,
to
engage
in
these
processes
and
are
any
of
these
processes
augmentive
to
other
other
programs
that
other
orders
of
government
conduct
so,
for
instance,
I
think
childcare?
There's
one
in
their
province
of
Ontario
provides
money
to
subsidize
childcare.
Do
we
as
a
council
augment
that
and
what
was
the
basis
of
the
choice
for
us
to
do
that?
Was
it
a
recommendation,
or
was
there
thing
in
law?
C
A
point
in
time
when
the
province
had
withdrawn
some
funding,
which
would
have
put
the
city
in
a
position
of
having
a
closed,
approximately
2000
childcare
spots.
A
decision
was
made
by
council
that
they
wanted
us
to
maintain
those
spots,
and
so
city
tax
dollars
were
invested
to
maintain
those
spots.
And
since
that
time,
council
has
continued
to
provide
I
would
say
in
the
range
of
20%
investment
in
to
supplement
what
we
get
from
the
province.
In.
N
E
The
mayor
I
believe
the
material
I
can't
help,
but
as
I
listened
to
your
question,
that
to
think
back
to
in
the
nineties
where
there
was
a
point
which
pooling
was
in
in
existence
where
you
know,
because
of
the
region
that
we
lived
and
we
had
other
municipalities
that
were
contributing
to
the
burden
that
Toronto
you
know
has
taken
on
willingly.
So
I
think
keep
that
in
mind.
A
H
Early
to
my
question,
we're
trying
to
solve
a
problem.
Would
you
agree?
Yes,
rumor.
The
problem
is
and
I
know
you
addressed
it
in
your
remarks
and
the
mayor
spoke
about
that.
This
morning
we
have
90
percent
with
respect
to
public
housing
that
we're
responsible
for
the
GTA,
a
forty
percent
for
the
gardener
DVP,
and
you
talk
about
thirteen
percent
of
trips
originating
or
coming
from
into
the
city
of
Toronto.
H
We
see
a
population
growth
of
about
a
million
additional
people
in
the
city,
so
we
have
to
find
ways
to
address
those
infrastructure
needs
and
developmental
needs
to
grow
the
city
and
be
ready
for
its
potential
growth
ins,
one.
What
we're
looking
at
now,
our
possible
solutions
that
are
driven
by
us
with,
hopefully,
a
complementary
response
from
other
levels
of
government
and
or
the
regional
pool
which
we
really
don't
have
anymore,
and
so
you
are
as
part
of
this
process
and
E&Y
work
and
so
on.
H
E
The
mayor,
that's
exactly
what
you're
trying
to
do.
I
think
the
the
the
letter
that
the
mayor's
put
forward
is
is
is
a
you
know.
Maybe
in
you
know
basic
terms.
It's
it's.
Certainly
the
City
of
Toronto
recognising
the
challenge
that
lies
ahead
as
a
growing
successful
community,
with
the
understanding
that
the
additional
investment
that
Toronto
is
prepared
to
make
subject
to
council
support
obviously
will
leverage
other
investments
that
need
to
be
made.
Let's
not
lose
sight
of
one
really
important
thing
when
you
look
at
the
citizens
metropolitan
Toronto
area.
E
When
you
look
at
the
GDP
generated
by
the
CMA
this,
which
Toronto
is
the
center
of
it,
the
GDP
is,
is
basically
equivalent
to
Alberta
and
basically
equivalent
to
Quebec.
So
this
economic
engine
that
has
been
performing
for
some
time
needs
to
be
invested
in,
because
the
benefits
that
derive
from
this
economic
engine
go
well
beyond
just
this
region.
It
obviously
provides
benefits
to
the
province
and
the
federal
government.
So
hence
the
reason
why
all
levels
of
government
need
to
be
involved,
and
you.
H
Would
agree
with
me
that
we
would
run
a
severe
risk
if
we
don't
start
to
actually
look
at
those
needs
now
and
starting
to
make
plans
for
the
growth
and
the
development
investing
in
infrastructure,
whether
or
not
it's
a
sewer
pipes
and
what-have-you
that
are
160
years
old.
And
so
we
don't
address
those
because
if
we
don't,
we
run
tune
in
and
we
run
an
inherent
risk
of
being
further
behind.
In
terms
of
our
plan
to
grow
the
city's
development.
Would
that
be
an
accurate
assessment
or
statement
through.
E
The
mayor,
that's
a
very
accurate
assessment
because,
again
from
in
the
world
of
asset
management,
you're,
either
maintaining
you're
replacing
an
asset
and
the
strategy
around
maintaining
an
asset
is
to
get
as
much
value
of
the
asset
for
as
long
as
you
can,
and
so,
if
you
short
change
the
maintenance
of
that
asset,
you
then
drive
the
need
to
replace
it
much
earlier
right.
So
this
it
is
about
making
strategic
investments
in
the
assets
that
were
responsible
for
and
making
sure
that
to
continue
to
serve,
not
just
the
people
but
the
economy
of
Toronto
right.
H
So
would
you
agree
with
me
that
this
is
a
process
that
we
have
to
follow
through
and
while
we
may
not
agree
at
the
moment
in
terms
of
all
the
tools
we
do
have
to
come
to
some
agreement
and
formulating
the
tools
in
order
to
allow
for
this
city
to
have
its
rightful
place
in
the
world
series
of
cities
to
be
recognized
as
a
world-class
City
to
plan
for
the
growth
plan
for
the
development
plan
for
the
new
1
million
people?
That
will
be
coming
into
2041.
B
So
I
want
to
thank
our
instant
young
for
this
report
and,
of
course,
the
provincial
government
for
providing
the
funds
for
that,
but
I
guess
really
could
be
either
or
city
manager
or
ernst
young.
So
this
is
an
important
report
or
an
important
tool
for
us
moving
forward
in
keeping
our
maintaining
our
fiscal
sustainability
in
long-term
health
over
the
future
through.
B
Correct
so
in
that
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
recommendations
and
I'm
going
to
just
sort
of
pull
apart
a
few
of
them
with
regard
to
efficiencies,
it's
safe
to
say
that
over
time
we're
looking
at
substantial
savings
through
efficiencies
through
modernization
through
changing
the
way
we
do
things
above
and
beyond
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
have
done
in
the
past.
Would
that
be
in
operates
of
ten?
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
money,
I,
think
or
opportunity.
There
is
that
I
could
earn
Stan
Young
as
well,
but
maybe
comment
on
CFO.
M
B
M
Through
the
mayor
last
year,
when
we
launched
the
2019
budget,
we
had
indicated
at
that
time
that
we
would
be
re-examining
assumptions
that
were
built
in
to
the
10
year
capital
plan.
At
that
time,
and
as
we're
currently
working
on
the
2020
budget,
we
are
looking
at
a
few
different
areas
to
improve
looking
at
industry
best
practices,
which
includes
a
stage
gating
scenario,
to
help
us
better
understand
the
timing
of
our
investments,
as
well
as
the
estimates
that
go
into
our
overall
projects.
So
the
stage
gating
piece
will
be.
M
One
aspect
is
involved
in
the
2020
10
year,
capital
plan,
in
addition
to
that
I
mentioned
that
we're
looking
at
year-round
procurement
rather
than
just
waiting
for
the
budgets
to
be
approved
on
an
annual
basis
and
multi-year
procurement,
so
allowing
us
to
go
into
the
market
and
looking
at
multi-year
commitments
with
contractors.
So
those
are
three
main
areas
where
we're
looking
to
enhance
the
capital
plan.
Thank.
B
You
and
with
regard
to
the
capital
plan,
so
the
long
term
forecast
with
all
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
in
the
past.
The
work
that
you're
going
to
be
doing
out
of
this
report.
We
still
aren't
resolving
our
challenges.
Is
that
correct
without
and
I'm
talking
without
any
in
the
head?
Hence
we
have
both
items
here
with
the
1.5%
City
Building
Fund,
but
without
that
we
are
going
to
be
challenged
moving
into
the
future
in
being
able
to
deal
with
our
long-term
capital
backlog
so
through.
M
The
mayor
we
know,
based
on
the
announcements
from
the
TTC
last
year,
that
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
state
of
good
repair
that
we
have
to
address
and
that
we
face
pressures
and
even
within
the
our
own
city,
we
have
to
be
become
more
mature
with
regards
to
our
capital
asset
management
strategy.
So,
specifically
to
your
question:
do
we
know
that
there
are
financial
pressures?
Yes
and
we
do
need
to
have
better
estimates
and
more
timely
information
to
help
us
inform
when
the
actual
projects
are
going
to
be
delivered.
B
And
with
regard
again,
when
you're
looking
at
the
work
we've
been
doing
in
the
past,
is
this
report
we're
considering
a
1.5
percent
increase
in
this
city
building
fund?
We
can't
do
this
alone.
You
know
I.
Think
I
saw
the
numbers.
This
may
may
overtime
deal
with
the
one
third
of
our
capital
backlog
and
that's
just
with
the
TTC.
E
The
mayor
I
mean
that
that's
absolutely
correct,
I
mean
I've
heard
the
stat
repeat
it
before
of
all
taxes
that
are
paid
by
residents
of
this
country
about
eight
percent
of
that
comes
to
cities,
so
the
other
92
percent
is
is,
is
accrued
by
the
upper
levels
of
government,
so
I
mean
we're
at
a
we're
at
a
I
would
say
disadvantage
when
it
comes
to
having
the
kinds
of
revenues
that
we
need
to
run
the
kind
of
organization
that
we're
responsible
for
okay.
Thank
you.
C
C
C
Great
well,
that's
not
great,
but
that
was
the
answer.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm.
Have
we
looked
at
the
shelter
system
as
well?
I
noticed
some
numbers
about
the
refugees,
but
I
keep
hearing
these
and
I
was
listening
to
the
radio
the
other
day,
and
somebody
was
mentioning
that
there's
one
shelter
on
Mississauga
the
other
day
I
learned
that
people
are
discharging
people
in
hospitals
in
Brampton,
sending
them
to
our
shelter
system
in
here.
So
what
do
we
know
about
the
shelter
system
in
the
GTA?
So.
E
If
a
cancer,
the
mayor
and
Julie
will
certainly
help
me
here
as
well,
we
have
started
to
have
conversations
with
the
municipalities
and
the
GTHA
about
their
housing
strategy,
which
includes
people
that
experience
time
in
shelters
just
to
see
what
supply
is
there?
How
that
supply
is
is
utilized
and,
and
part
of
our
goal
is
to
ensure
that
the
weight
of
people
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
is
born
by
more
than
just
the
City
of
Toronto.
E
We
did
receive
some
funding
from
the
federal
government,
which
is
is
being
allocated
to
families
that
find
their
way
to
peel
into
Hamilton
and
and
obviously
here
so
we're
starting
down
that
path.
We're
not
there
yet,
in
terms
of
you
know
the
responsibility
being
borne
by
all
the
people
in
this
and
all
the
municipalities
in
this
region.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
Can.
C
You
provide
us
the
number
like
you
do
for
it,
the
housing
can
you.
We
also
have
those
numbers
for
the
shelters
as
well.
Absolutely
with
regards
to
the
poverty,
these
numbers,
you
know
the
1.5
times
higher
and
actually
1
point
times
higher
than
the
country.
Now
the
national
government
has
released
poverty
reduction
strategy
as
well.
Does
it
reflect
that?
Do
we
have
a
bigger
share
of
the
contributions
given
that
we
have
a
much
higher
poverty.
C
Orders
of
government
have
the
same
goals
under
their
poverty
reduction
strategy,
and
that's
work
will
have
to
continue
I
know,
but
since
we
have
a
bigger
share,
we
should
be
getting
a
big
I
mean.
That
was
our
argument
in
transit.
Right
we've
got
a
per
share
upper
ridership
number
and
I.
Think
that
is
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
on.
Some
of
these
issues
is
that
you
need
to
fight
for
okay.
That
was
not
the
question.
C
M
Through
the
mayors,
so
rather
than
look
at
numbers,
the
tax
increases
over
the
last
few
years
have
been
inflation.
We
know
that
our
numbers
from
a
growth
perspective
have
been
greater
than
that.
So
when
you
just
look
at
the
level
of
growth
and
you
consider
the
fact
that
taxes
have
been
held
at
a
level
of
inflation,
its
efficiencies
in
the
system
that
have
actually
funded
the
growth
by
maintaining
the
service
levels,
so.
C
C
M
C
Sorry,
my
last
one,
but
it's
really
long
in
your
report,
I-
can
take
it
two
ways:
I
can
take
it.
You
don't
have
the
tools
to
really
deal
with
the
issues
that
you're
now
being
forced
to
deal
or
get
out
of
that
business,
because
you
know
you
shouldn't
be
in
that
business.
However,
for
example,
you
know
some
of
these
issues
have
repercussions
that
impact
the
fiscal,
the
social,
the
healthy
of
the
city.
G
The
mayor,
two-one-one
fundamental
issue
is
that
our
report
was
finalized
and
submitted
prior
to
the
more
recent
announcement.
So
those
are
two
separate
issues,
so
we
don't
have
an
analysis
of
that.
I
would
say
that
the
that
the
foundation
of
the
report
and
the
analysis
is
to
establish
where
you
currently
are
and
where
you
are
forecast
to
be,
and
to
set
up
the
implication
for
the
decisions
that
you
now
collectively
face,
and
so
I
would
say
to
you
that
that
is
quite
clear
and
explicit.
D
M
The
mayor
with
regards
to
the
capital
plan,
again
speaking
to
the
capital
plan,
that
it
was
in
existence
for
2019,
there
is
a
significant.
Let's
talk
about
TTC
as
an
example,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
state
of
good
repair
that
was
not
built
into
the
capital
plan
and
so
on
a
priority
basis.
We
would
consider
what
particular
projects
are
needed
and
require
funding
at
a
different
rate
or
a
different
timing
that
is
currently
built
into
the
plan,
so
specifically
vehicles,
vehicle
acquisitions,
signaling
changes,
etc.
So.
D
G
L
B
Cuz
I
also
wanted
a
square
it
so
Durham
Region
on
their
website.
It
says
they
they
guarantee
shelter.
Beds
will
be
given
to
people
who
live
in
Durham
first
and
then
it
in
a
big,
bold
green
box.
It
says
the
region
is
not
a
guaranteed
space
at
our
shelters,
so
similar
problem,
I
guess
in
Durham,
okay,
Thank,
You,
Mara
Tori
thanks.
A
A
I
just
want
to
look
at
actually
quoting
from
the
staff
report,
so
if
it
miss
quotes
or
I'm
sure
it
doesn't,
but
if
it's,
if
you
want
to
put
it
in
different
words,
please
the
staff
report
that
goes
on
top
of
your
report
says:
there's
a
section
entitled
financial
risk
most
acute
in
city's
capital
plan
and
the
wording
that
says
there
is
the
risk
primarily
is
as
a
result
of
the
city
generating
the
amount
of
contributions
required
to
the
existing
capital
plan
and
not
relying
on
reserve
as
a
sustainable
funding.
Source.
A
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you.
Obviously
these
things
always
happen
in
some
mysterious
order,
depending
on
what's
going
on,
but
had
the
infrastructure
levy
that's
being
considered
together
with
this
and
you've
heard
some
reference,
just
in
sitting
there
this
morning
to
the
amounts
of
money
that
will
be
generated
by
that.
If
that
was
in
place
and
you've
gone
and
done
your
report,
would
your
findings
have
been
the
same
with
respect
to
what
you
identify
as
the
most
acute
risk
to
the
city's
ability
to
carry
forward
and
do
what
it
has
to
do?.
G
Would
say
that
the
as
I
understand
it
the
net
new
revenue
that
would
be
gained
by
the
city
and
applied
to
your
capital
plan
or
to
dimensions
of
the
capital
plan
that
would
have
an
impact
on
the
analysis
that
we
have
presented.
We
have
not
conducted
that
analysis,
so
I
can't
tell
you
proportionally
what
that
would
be.
But
yes,
yes,.
A
A
There's
been
some
statements
made
about
that
that
what
happened
with
the
other
items-
I'm,
not
sure
of
us
all
of
them,
are
some
of
them-
is
that
they've
been
sent
off
in
various
differ
envelopes,
as
it
were
to
other
parts
of
the
city
public
service,
to
be
studied
and
will
be
the
subjective
reports,
because
there
are
more
complex
issues.
Am
I
right
and
saying
that.
M
To
you,
mr.
mayor,
the
some
of
the
recommendations
or
observations
or
opportunities
that
are
some
young
identified,
we
will
look
at
the
timeliness
of
those
opportunities
and
staff
will
vet
them
to
determine
whether
or
not
they
are
part
of
our
upcoming
budget
year,
at
which
time
we
would
propose
and
provide
information
on
how
those
efficiencies
impact
the
way
we
do
our
business
for
the
longer
term
aspects.
A
A
I
had
understood
it
to
be
the
case
that,
with
some
of
these,
that
involve
more
complex
considerations
of
both
administration
and
policy
that
you
were
sending
them
off,
or
he
will
send
them
off
to
the
public
service
to
look
at
them
from
the
standpoint
of
both
the
administrative
you
know,
feasibility
of
and
what's
involved
in
doing
these
things
whatever
they
may
be,
but
also
the
policy
considerations
to
the
extent,
for
example,
that
some
of
those
recommendations
are
contrary
to
current
city
policy.
Would
that
be
a
correct
statement
of
what
you're
doing
with
them.
A
You
know,
say
a
number
of
years
from
now
the
savings
I
think
this
coming
year
as
we'll
likely
see
in
the
budget
to
come
forward
next
month
to
be
fifty
million
dollars.
But
what
do
you
think
just
from
those
items
along
the
ones
that
are
not
subject
to
further
study
but
are
actually
fairly
straightforward
to
implement?
What
do
you
think
the
savings
will
be
as
we
look
out
to
sort
of
what
we'll
call
full
maturity
of
those
items?
The
dollar
was.
M
It's
difficult
to
say,
because
your
question
prior
to
this
is
whether
or
not
we
would
consider
all
items
we
an
actual
fact
have
to
do
work
on
determining
which
ones
will
be
appropriate
to
bring
forward.
So
it's
difficult
to
quantify
at
this
point
in
time.
How
much
is
short-term?
How
much
is
long-term.
M
A
E
I
can
mr.
mayor
to
your
earlier
question
about
efficiencies
that
are
and
as
Heather
pointed
out,
there
short
medium
and
long
term
and
yes,
there's
some
of
them
will
require
more
work.
I
don't
want
anyone,
thinking
that
when
we
come
to
the
2020
budget
that
there
won't
be
in
the
millions
efficiencies
that
we're
going
to
put
forward.
E
So
it
would
I
think
it's
really
important
for
people
listening
to
this
presentation,
not
believe
that
there's
a
tax
that
is
being
proposed
without
us
looking
and
identifying
not
just
categories
of
efficiencies,
but
dollar
amounts,
and
so
we
are
talking
about
millions
in
terms
of
savings
that
are
going
to
be
accrued
and
reported
in
the
2020
budget.
In.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
that
was
the
end
of
the
questions
and
I
sort
of
inadvertently
went
to
questions.
Although
it
now
means
our
deputies,
who
are
here
to
speak
on,
this
will
be
able
to
have
the
full
benefit
of
all
the
questions
that
were
answered
and
I
guess
in
order
to
complete
that
I
had
promised
councillor
perks.
If
he
wanted
to
come
back
on
to
the
matter
and
possession
of
further
information,
he
could
ask
a
couple
more
questions
about
the
commercial
assessment
or
whatever
thank.
K
You
very
much
mr.
Maron
I,
think
I,
just
I.
Think
I
can
do
this
in
two
questions
so
to
mr.
Kuhn
for
tea.
We,
my
understanding
now
from
talking
to
you
further,
is,
although
we
were
on
track
to
achieve
the
ratio
provincially
required
between
the
different
property
tax
classes
this
year,
because
the
province
brought
in
the
rule
saying
that
we
can't
increase
property
taxes
on
multi-tenant
buildings.
The
achievement
of
the
ratio
for
the
other
two
categories
has
been
delayed
until
2023.
Is
that
correct?
There's.
N
A
You
very
much
thanks
very
much
to
councilor
parks.
Okay,
so
as
I
was
saying
and
thank
you
very
much,
Sharon
stay
young
for
all
your
hard
work
and
thank
you
to
our
city
staff
for
for
overseeing
that
and
presenting
to
so
as
I
was
saying,
we
now
have
the
benefit
of
hearing
from
the
deputies
of
visiting
with
us
today
and
they've
had
the
benefit
of
listening
to
that
presentation
and
all
the
questions
and
answers
and
I
don't
think
it
makes
a
huge
difference.
I
So
we
have
here
one
report
that
is
pretty
much
explicitly
limited
to
efficiencies,
and
then
we
have
another
proposal
for
the
the
taxes
levy,
but
we
continue
to
have
the
problem
that
the
spending
questions
are
not
being
addressed
as
spending
questions
every
year.
There
are
some
changes
in
which
line
items
get
more
in
which
get
less,
but
there's
never
been
an
explicit
inclusion
of
that
in
the
fiscal
sustainability
issue
and
I.
Think
it's
a
it's
a
problem
that
we
use
the
terms
value
based.
I
Efficiency
is
not
really
a
value
question.
It's
it's.
It
can
be
coaxed
into
being
a
value
question
in
the
sense
that
it's
the
value
of
the
inputs
relative
to
what
outputs
you
get,
but
when
I
heard
that
wood
they
were
is
going
to
be
a
value
based
analysis,
I
thought
that
meant
the
value
of
the
outputs
and
that's
the
part
that
we
have
absolutely
not
discussed
in
the
previous
rounds.
In
this
round.
We
have
the
other.
I
Two
components
are
clearly
on
the
table,
as
distinct
reports
at
this
item,
but
the
value
of
the
outputs,
in
other
words,
whether
we
should
be
spending
not
a
different
amount.
In
total,
because
that's
determined
by
the
two
items,
but
whether
we
should
be
spending
different
ratios,
a
higher
percentage
on
of
our
total
spending
should
go
to
transit,
for
example.
That
question
isn't
even
being
asked
in
this
form
of
analysis
and
I.
I
So
we
do
have-
and
we
have
had,
of
course,
efficiency
changes
and
this
report
proposes
to
do
more.
We
have
had
six
years
now
in
total,
including
the
previous
levy
of
a
0.5%
above
inflation
tax
increase,
and
now
we
are
proposing
another
six
years
of
1.5
above
inflation.
So
we
have
had
that
and
we
can
we
we
are
proposed
to
have
more
of
it.
I
I
I
We
rarely
look
at
whether
efficiencies
are
actually
efficient
and
I
would
question
presto
as
an
obvious
example
of
that,
but
there
are
others
and
we
rarely
and
and
a
framework
has
to
be
set
up.
That
is
different
from
what
is
typically
used.
The
framework
that
was
typically
used
involves
benefits
and
risks,
but
that's
not
the
framework.
The
framework
is
benefits,
risks
and
harms,
and
consequential
harms.
That's
not
the
same
as
a
risk.
I
A
risk
is
something
that
you
hope
doesn't
happen
may
not
happen,
but
you
have
to
be
prepared,
for
a
harm
is
something
that
the
decision
you
make
will
either
probably
or
definitely
produce,
and
that
component
needs
to
be
a
part
of
your
technology
analysis
and
a
part
of
this
new
technology
infrastructure
committee
that
you're
setting
up
it
needs
to
include
harms
and
not
just
sort
of
wash
that
under
the
table
and
assume
that
the
term
risk
covers
it.
Risk
doesn't
cover
it.
I
If
you're
going
to
do
something,
that's
actually
going
to
reduce
efficiency
rather
than
increasing
efficiency,
because
it's
the
expenses
are
so
great
and
it's
disruptive
effect
is
so
great
and
if
complexity
is
so
great
and
that
the
the
time
you're
you're
making
other
people
spend
while
you
save
some
time
is
so
great
and
the
consequences
of
development,
of
artificial
intelligence
and
technology
in
general
are
so
great.
Then
that
is
a
harm.
It's
not
a
risk
car
and
that
needs
to
be
part
of
your
analysis.
I'll.
A
O
P
L
Thank
you
very
much
good
morning
and
thank
you
to
the
committee
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
report.
My
name
is
Jane
Mercer
and
I'm.
Speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Toronto
Coalition
for
better
childcare,
we
represent
over
20,000
families
that
our
member
centers
are
not
for
profit
centers
and
speak
for
thousands
more
who
desperately
need
access
to
affordable,
high-quality
childcare.
L
This
report
jumps
right
in
to
remind
us
how
incredibly
important
Toronto
is
how
it
is
a
magnet
for
immigration
and
economic
growth,
how
it
is
the
fastest-growing
city
in
North
America,
but
if
we
are
to
attract
support
and
sustain
that
growth,
we
need
to
be
a
livable
city
for
our
young
families
and
I
know.
I've
heard
that
used
by
the
mayor
and
many
counselors
as
well.
L
Mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
we
want
to
commend
you
and
thank
you
for
the
real
hard
work
that
you
have
done.
This
year,
in
particular,
to
fight
for
every
childcare
dollar,
every
child,
Kasper
and
every
childcare
subsidy
between
council,
a
very
hard-working
city
staff
and
the
community
of
parents
and
educators.
We
have
not
stumbled.
L
We
have
kept
our
childcare
system
strong
and
growing
through
a
very
difficult
year,
and
we
have
managed
this
because
we
have
all
stayed
laser
focused
on
Toronto's
childcare
growth
strategy.
We
are
growing
the
number
of
childcare
spaces.
We
are
increasing
the
number
of
childcare
subsidies,
we
are
bringing
down
parent
fees
and
we
are
raising
educator
salaries
and
we
have
to
be
able
to
do
all
of
these
things.
L
At
the
same
time,
it
is
no
small
feat,
a
robust
childcare
system,
which
is
exactly
what
we'll
be
building
with
this
Toronto
Chowk,
a
growth
strategy
when
we
continue
it
every
single
year
for
our
10
years
needs
to
have
a
mix
of
childcare
programs
in
order
to
support
the
very
different
communities
across
Toronto,
and
that
includes
52,
directly
operated
programs.
That's
a
mere
3%
of
your
system,
but
those
are
the
programs
that
frequently
serve
the
hard
to
serve
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
a
high
proportion
of
special
needs.
L
Children
and
families
as
system
managers,
you
need
to
have
this
small
component
of
directly
operated
childcare
programs
to
make
sure
that
you
can
address
the
needs
of
all
communities
and
to
provide
an
important
benchmark
for
salaries
and
quality.
Overall
I
want
to
just
end
this
short
deputation
by
reminding
us
all
of
the
real
strength,
the
real
value
in
our
child
Casaus,
and
that,
behind
every
great
day
in
child
care
for
thousands
of
children,
are
teams
of
incredibly
hard-working
child
care
professionals.
L
A
A
D
This
opportunity
to
speak
on
on
these
issues
and
I'll
just
get
right
into
it
with
time
being
short,
the
value-based
outcome
review
is
essentially
a
reiteration
of
reports
we've
seen
in
the
past
so-called
opportunities
and
efficiencies
for
managing
finances
and
operations
like
many
before
it.
It
failed
to
address
the
problems
of
long
term,
predictable
and
sustainable
funding.
D
The
reports
the
report
itself
was
made
was
made
for
was
was
paid
for
by
the
province,
which
is
pushing
a
service
and
cost-cutting
agenda.
The
provincial
provincial
funding
goes
directly
to
services
like
childcare,
which
will
be
significantly
impacted
by
recommendations
in
the
report.
These
funding
sources
should
be
considered
as
a
key
source
of
any
value.
A
dollar
strategy
and
the
city
should
be
looking
at
funding
tools
before
cutting
services.
D
The
report
does
acknowledge
a
historical
reliance
on
efficiencies
which
we
know
as
cuts
to
programs
and
staff
to
fund
growth
and
to
fund
growth
and
budget
holes
and
Local
79
agrees.
The
efficiencies
can
no
longer
be
used
to
balance
budget
holes
created
by
poor
long-term
growth
and
funding
planning.
So
once
again,
how
we
get
how
we
get
there
has
significant
implications.
The
most
disturbing
recommendations
in
the
report
is
to
offload
child
care.
D
The
premise
of
this
recommendation
is
is:
is
that
paying
less
for
what
is
typically
women's
labor
is
okay
and
and
that
this
will
somehow
solve
the
wait
list
problem
Peel
Region
as
an
Peel
Region,
is
used
as
an
example
of
success,
but
Peel
just
announced
it
will
face
a
wait
list
for
the
first
time
since
offloading
child
here
because
of
recently
announced
provincial
funding
cuts
clearly
offloading
child
care
did
not
solve
peels.
Wait,
lace,
problem
with
waitlist
problem
now
Toronto
wants
to
dump
the
provincial
child
child
care
funding
problems
to
onto
the
sector.
D
D
Does
the
city
want
to
absolve
themselves
of
this
sort
of
standard
I
find
it
disturbing
that
childcare
is
what
we
look
at
every
single
time.
The
city
looks
to
for
service
cuts.
The
Auditor
General's
report
already
already
made
rec
this
made.
This
recommendation
and
the
city
has
a
child
child
care
growth
strategy
it
has
committed
to
no
decisions
should
be
made
until
the
outstanding
divisional
reports
come
out
this
year.
D
There
are
also
huge
labor
implications.
Childcare
workers
at
at
no
time
was
Labour
or
the
public
consulted
on
such
proposals,
which
could
end
up
costing
the
city
more
to
implement
means.
Testing
of
universal
programs
is
another
recommendation.
The
city
already
tried
versions
of
this
of
this
years
ago.
They
started
charging
program
fees
at
some
community,
centers
and
and
in
priority
neighbourhoods.
Where
the
need
was
great,
it
didn't
work,
people,
people
could
couldn't
pay,
enrollment
went
down
and
the
city
ultimately
reversed.
The
fees
increased.
D
The
fee
increases
means
testing
is,
is
a
cutback
proposed
in
the
name
of
reducing
budget
deficits,
but
it
is
unfair
and
adds
more
bureaucratic
cost
to
administer.
It
also
creates
a
proof
of
poverty
scenario
that
the
city
should
not
support
in
principle,
and
it
goes
against
its
own
poverty
reduction
strategy.
The
report
also
talks
about
workforce,
the
optimisation,
Russ
rostering
of
staff
and
automating
work.
The
city
wants
us
to
believe
that
the
people
are
to
blame
for
their
budget
problems,
but
but
as
long
as
we've
had
public
services
we'll
need
to
deliver
these
services.
D
In
other
reports,
we
have
seen
similar
catchphrases,
which
boil
down
to
one
thing:
less
programs
and
services
for
fewer
staff
to
deliver
it's
misleading
to
suggest
we
can
get
rid
of
people,
reduce
staffing
and
not
affect
services
at
community
and
child
care,
centers,
shelters
and
long-term
care
homes.
Yet
these
Human
Services
that
stand
to
be
the
most
deeply
impacted
by
proposals
in
this
report
were
left
out
of
the
funding.
Analysis
have
to
ask
you
to
reach
a
conclusion
shortly.
We're
fasting.
Thank
you.
D
In
conclusion,
this
report
will
move
towards
a
clear
lack
of
public
accountability
by
giving
city
the
city
justification
to
make
decisions
using
probe
pro-business
private
sector
approach.
The
the
city
is
not
private,
it
is
the
public
entity
owned
by
the
public
and
accountable
to
the
public.
Thank
you
thank.
N
You
for
speaking
to
us,
you
talked
about
child
care
and
there's
a
there's,
a
section
of
the
report
about
it,
but
I
raised
some
questions
earlier
and
I'm,
not
sure
you
hear
for
them,
but
there's
some
discussion
and
the
report
about
how
to
fund
these
sorts
of
things.
Do
you
have
a
position
on
how
the
city
would
pay
for
increased
childcare
and,
as
we
heard
from
the
previous
speaker,
investments
in
wages
and
in
the
system
I.
P
Thank
You
councillor
and
Dave,
if
you're,
asking
specifically
about
how
to
orient
different
income
to
different
services,
I
think
the
city
has
a
suite
of
revenue
tools
that
are
available
to
it
that
have
been
routinely
discussed
at
Council,
and
perhaps
one
of
those
could
be
looked
at
to
continue
funding
for
different
services
that
are,
you
know
higher.
The
threshold
could.
P
N
Enough
there's
another
part
in
the
report
you
see
in
and
around
page
29,
but
it
doesn't
matter
it's
it's
just
a
fundamental
discussion
talks
about
the
capital
plan
and
our
current
capital
plan.
It
makes
the
observation
that
we
don't
deliver
all
of
it.
You
know
it
takes
a
lot
of
horsepower
to
change
the
money
into
product.
N
Do
do
the
members
have
a
thought
on
what
the
implication
is
is
in
realizing
the
capital
plans,
we're
talking
about
capital
dollars,
big
projects,
but
how
do
we
scale
capacity
to
commit
the
output
that
is
contemplated
in
this
report,
or
do
we
scale
back
the
capital
plan
to
75%,
as
is
one
of
the
the
discussions
in
here?
There's
implications
in
that,
but
do
you
have
a
position
on
that
I.
P
Mean
I
think
the
mayor
has
laid
out
his
options
clearly
today
for
how
to
fund
a
lot
of
that
and
create
I
think
it's
six
point:
six
billion
dollars
in
leverage
to
look
to
funding
those
things
which
I
believe
would
be
getting
close
to
a
third
of
some
of
the
projects
that
folks
want
to
deliver
in
the
city
and
direction
has
been
given
to
you.
There
are
other
measures
as
well.
The
city,
for
example,
has
a
15%
debt
ceiling.
If
you
will
on
it,
the
provinces
regulations
state
that
that
could
be
higher.
N
P
N
N
A
C
A
very
quick
question,
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
your
position
clearly
on
the
office.
Optimization
and
workforce,
optimization
I
mean
there's
lots
of
projects
going
on
to
give
better
service.
I
mean
we're
I'm
very
familiar,
for
example,
with
the
choice-based
service
on
the
waiting
list
to
manage
the
waiting
list
and
nobody's
even
thinking
about
removing
those
people,
but
actually
focusing
the
work
of
those
people
and
actually
helping
people
that
need
it.
The
most
you're
not
saying
that
we
shouldn't
look
into
technology.
You
shouldn't
modernize
the
way
that
we
do
things.
C
That's
that's
not
what
you're
saying
right
I
mean
you
do,
support
things
like
this
that
actually
give
a
better
service
to
the
residents
of
Toronto.
Is
that
correct,
I,
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
we
are
on
the
same
page,
because
I
from
previous
conversations,
I
did
think
that
you
were
supportive
of
initiatives
like
that.
P
A
Thank
you
other
questions
by
members
of
the
committee.
I
just
have
a
couple
if
I
might,
first
of
all,
I
really
wanted
to
deal
with
what
was
took
up.
The
bulk
of
your
presentation
and
I
I
think
it's
possible.
A
listener
might
have
concluded
that
you
were
suggesting
that
the
city
had
in
some
way
or
in
any
way
shape
or
form
suggested
that
the
recommendation,
which
is
in
the
Ernst
Eon
report
that
we
should
you
know,
have
the
private
sector
take
over
the
city.
Run.
A
Childcare
had
somehow
been
adopted,
embraced
there'd
been
any
intimation
whatsoever
that
we
were
going
to
proceed
with
that
because
you
kept
talking
about
the
city
doing
this
and
that-
and
you
would
agree
with
me
that
this
is
a
recommendation
in
a
report
written
by
a
firm
that
was
retained,
to
look
at
possibilities,
but
that
in
no
way
shape
or
form
has
the
city
officials,
the
politicians,
the
mayor.
Anybody
else
indicated
any
intention
to
proceed
with
that.
It's
just
there
as
a
recommendation
that
somebody
will
take
a
look
at
I
presume.
You'd,
agree
with
that
yeah!
A
That's
correct!
Okay!
Thank
you.
Then.
I
had
the
same
question:
I
mean
I
and
I
think
you've
answered
it
with
respect
to
the
automation
and
then
I
just
like
to
pursue
for
one.
Second,
the
sorry
I
didn't
put
the
thing
on
the
question
of
how
do
you
feel
I
mean
you
talked
about
the
suite
of
other
revenue
tools,
but
recognizing
that
actually,
those
are
pretty
small,
a
number
for
in
terms
of
ones
that
are
actually
in
reality
available
to
us.
D
P
It's
a
material
source
of
income
for
the
city.
It's
the
number
one
source,
I
think
the
equation
is
for
every
property
tax
point:
it's
30
million
dollars
in
income
to
the
city,
I
I,
guess.
The
point
that
we
want
to
leave
with
is
that,
while
the
capital
investment
is
critical,
that
the
operating
side
also
can't
be
just
completely
ignored,
okay,.
A
You
would
be
confronted
about
the
possibility
at
some
point
in
time
that
those
revenues
could
fall
way
short
and
all
of
a
sudden.
Then
a
social
program
is
in
jeopardy.
You'd
accept
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
actually
remove
reliance
for
social
programs
and
maybe
have
the
MLT
t
fund
something
that
is
a
more
variable
longer
term
expenditure
requirement,
namely
on
the
capital
side.
I.
P
Recall
the
many
debates
over
this
issue
and
that
former
city
manager
Wallace
tried
to
in
fact
bake
in
certain
amounts
of
money
from
the
MLT
T
to
bring
stability
to
revenue
for
the
city.
My
I
think
our
only
point
was
that
there
are
other
tools
available
as
well
to
help
stabilize
and
diversify
that
revenue
and
and
in
fact,
more
so
than
any
other
municipality
in
the
province.
Yeah.
A
It's
not
the
time
for
me
to
get
into
a
discussion
with
you
about
all
the
ones
that
I've
been
to
pursue
with
the
province
that
they
so
graciously
gave
us
and
then
turned
around
to
tell
us
that
it
wasn't
really
possible
for
us
to
implement
them
because
they'd
have
to
collect
it
and
wouldn't
or
various
things
like
that,
but
anyway,
I
take
your
point.
Thank
you
very
much,
any
other
questions.
Okay,
thank
you
both
thank
you.
J
Morning,
mr.
mayor,
right
after
that,
I
wanted
to
say
publicly
that
I
support
your
proposal
to
increase
property
taxes
that
will
help
with
the
boarding
of
our
transportation,
infrastructure
and
affordability
for
to
build
housing
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
as
we
discussed
yesterday
with
China
by
Lao
in
the
planning
and
Housing
Committee.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
to
you.
Secondly,
looking
at
the
strategic
plan:
I
look
at
the
world,
our
people
and
their
workplace
culture.
J
When
it
does
the
one
I'd
like
to
talk
to
city
manager,
we
do
an
excellent
job
promoting
and
out
there
recruiting
members
of
the
diversity
of
several
ethnic
groups.
We
do
the
excellent
work
now
complete
on
that.
The
issue
here
is
retaining
important,
valuable,
talented
individuals
who,
due
to
illnesses
out
of
the
control
they
get
thrown
under
the
bus
and
throw
and
into
the
unemployment
lines.
We
talk
about
that.
The
worst
city
of
this
city
is
our
extremes.
We
don't
do
that.
J
We
really
we
really
try
to
in
2011
I
was
here
when
Rafa
was
our
mayor
and
we
have
a
KPMG
report.
Bro
you
heard
about
that
one.
We
we
stake
here
in
City
Hall,
like
two
days
in
a
row,
the
peering
and
this
KPMG
report.
Many
of
the
recommendations
that
we
made
was
that
the
sharing
of
services,
for
instance,
one
of
the
big
items
that
are
we
discuss,
is
how
we
can
centralized
decentralized.
Sorry
centralized
the
Human
Resources
office,
one
now
it
has
a
different
name
is
called
the
the
office
equity
people
division.
J
J
Contributing
to
our
the
the
pressures
that
we
have
in
our
budget
we
last
week
John
Sewell
former
mayor
and
myself,
we
attended
Budget
Committee
of
the
Toronto
Police
Services.
We
agreed
that
we
need
to
have
body-worn
cameras
on
each
officer,
because
that
will
result
in
savings
with
risk
management,
the
the
money
that
we
we
put
him
there
in
the
hands
of
the
insurance
company
to
pay
off
for
in
the
unification
of
people
who
have
been
victims
of
police
brutality.
J
So
that's
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
recommend
to
the
to
the
meritorious
member
of
the
chairman
and
member
of
the
police
services
more
into
councillor
Francis
Nunziata
that
we
need
to
put
priority
first,
the
body
borne
cameras
before
the
agreement,
with
the
collective
increases
that
we
put
a
more
pressure
in
perhaps
will
not
alleviate
some
of
those
requirements
by
the
city
activists
that
has
spoken
many
times
about
police
brutality
in
this
city.
So
this
is
one
of
those
things.
I
want
to
talk,
and
those
and
also
I
agree
with.
J
J
Good
bang
I,
just
this
is
my
dream
and
if
you
can
see
it
on
the
on
the
screen,
no
here
freaky
people
we
will
train.
Now.
Why
are
we
dedicated
to
hide
those
people
who
are
on
disability,
providing
with
adequate
training
adequate
accommodation?
So
we
can
become
again
productive
members
of
society.
We
don't
like
to
live
in
poverty,
it
sucks.
So
please,
let's
do
these
recommendations.
You
know
the
body
board
cameras,
the
one
police
officer
per
cup
Cruiser.
J
A
A
O
I'm
here
I
see
some
of
you
smiling,
because
I
am
having
a
bit
of
separation
anxiety
and
because
my
baby
is
child
care
and
I
was
disappointed
once
again
to
see
child
care
on
the
list
of
potential
so-called
efficiencies.
So
I
first,
though,
wanted
to
say
mr.
mayor
I
congratulate
you
for
bringing
forward
the
proposed
city
building
tax
increase,
despite
what
Marcus
Jie
has
to
say
wherever
Marcus's
I
think
it's
okay
to
change
your
mind.
There
are
other
toys,
changing
the
rinds
and
I
think
that's
a
very
good
thing
to
do.
For
me,.
A
O
O
If
we're
going
to
address
our
capital
needs
in
Toronto
water,
so
I
presume
there'll
be
a
report
coming
forward
on
that,
and
that
also
I
want
to
reiterate
what
I
heard
you
say
and
councillor
perks
say
and
the
staffs
say
that
there
will
be
no
implementation
of
these
recommendations
without
further
review
and
staff
reports
coming
back.
I.
Don't
think
I
need
to
reiterate,
but
I
will
why
contracting
out
or
privatizing
our
city
run.
O
Child
care
centers
is
absolutely
wrong,
absolutely
wrong
the
wrong
direction
to
take,
and
it
makes
reference
to
other
jurisdictions
who
have
done
that.
There's
one,
and
that
was
a
big
mistake.
Our
childcare
system
in
Toronto
is
the
most
highly
respected,
well-managed
childcare
system
in
the
country,
or
at
least
one
of
the
top-two.
And
if
you
want
to
talk
about
Quebec,
we
have
the
highest
levels
of
quality.
We
serve
high-risk,
children
and
communities.
We
provide
and
focus
on
equity
for
all
kinds
of
families
and
children.
O
O
O
In
fact,
our
policy
direction
is
to
move
forward
to
encourage
the
nonprofit
sector
and
the
commercial
sector,
but
the
nonprofit
sector
to
raise
their
salaries,
because
if
we're
going
to
keep
high
quality
early
childhood
educators,
we
have
to
value
their
work
and
we
have
to
pay
them
well,
so
to
move
in
any
other
direction.
I
think
is
exploitative
and
wrong.
O
O
It
will
only
impact
staff
and,
of
course
it
will
impact
staff.
It
said
the
report
said
it
may
affect
staff,
who
might
it
might
be
felt
by
early
childhood
educators
as
a
negative
impact?
Well,
of
course,
it
would
and
it
would
have
an
impact
on
children
and
families
who
have
relationships
with
the
staff
that
are
in
our
centres.
We
forget
that
stability
is
important
for
families
and
young
kids
and
to
go
out
and
do
market
soundings
in
with
other
centers.
O
Wanted
to
just
clarify,
in
the
end
the
cost
sharing
arrangements.
Historically,
the
cost
sharing
arrangements
were
legislated.
Eighty
percent
provincial
20
percent
municipal
for
all
for
the
years
from
nineteen
sixty
four
on
when
the
Act
was
put
into
place,
the
Liberals
in
the
last
term
moved
to
100
percent
financing.
We
took
a
position
that
we
would
continue
to
provide
20
percent
contribution.
We
took
that
position
recognizing
that
we
need
to
grow
the
system
not
just
to
maintain
the
system
and
that
we
would
make
that
contribution.
That
is
the
city's
position.
O
N
O
N
A
fundamental
question,
though,
about
the
role
of
the
government
and
I
appreciate:
everyone
has
different
thoughts
on
it
and
I.
Just
I
wanted
to
just
be
clear
on
yours.
Would
you
see
a
day
or
would
you
contemplate
a
day
that
would
make
you
happy
that
you
know
if
we
would
be
in
the
the
fully
direct
deliver
delivery
business?
It
would
be
all
us
I,
don't
think
hydrator.
O
I,
don't
think
that's
ever
going
to
happen
and
I
don't
think
it's
a
reasonable
thing
to
to
move
in
that
direction.
However,
I
do
believe-
and
we
did
approve
around
2007
and
8-
that
we
would
introduce
new,
directly
operated
centers
in
those
areas
that
were
high
needs
neighborhoods
or
where
there
it
was
unlikely
that
we
would
find
an
operator
willing
and
capable
of
operating
so
that
we
always
have
that
option
to
be
able
to
directly
deliver
and
I.
Think
it's
an
important
role.
We
should
continue
to
play
so
that
we
have
that
option.
You.
N
O
O
So
it's
a
combination
of
regulation
and
a
combination
of
funding
and
incentives
that
will
ensure
that
we
begin
to
pay
child
care
workers,
the
value
of
their
work,
and
that's
why,
in
the
public
sector,
they
are
because
there
is
a
equity
scheme
in
place
and
those
salaries
are
paid
relative
to
the
value
of
men's
work
in
the
workplace
and
that's
how
we
finally
get
the
value
of
that
work.
Recognized.
O
Counsel
there
many
services
that
are
delivered
municipally,
long-term
care,
shelter,
a
shelter
services.
There
are
other
services
that
have
historically
been
80/20
cost
shared,
and
then
they
went
ahead
and
uploaded
100%
cost
of
social
assistance
which
had
been
cost
shared.
So
you
know
these
arrangements
that
were
entrenched
in
federal
provincial
legislation
under
federal
agreements
were
what
structured
the
current
cost
sharing
arrangements.
Should
they
be
paying
more,
of
course,
but
until
they
do,
we
have
an
obligation
to
make
sure
that
we
support
families
in
our
city.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
A
Questions
have
councillor
farmer,
councillor
Davis,
that
people
wish
to
ask
okay,
seeing
that
I
will
thank
you
and
for
for
coming
out
today
and
for
your
continuing,
obviously
very
genuine
concern
about
child
care.
So
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
the
deputations
and
I
guess.
We
could
then
begin
with
the
speakers
and
I
see
councillor
perks,
hand
is
up,
and
so
your
first
sir
thank.
K
You
very
much
mr.
mayor,
there's
there's
a
lot
at
play
here
and
I
want
to
look
at
one
aspect
of
what's
in
front
of
us
and
and
what
it
tells
us
about
how
to
run
a
government.
An
important
part
of
being
an
elected
official.
Is
your
role
in
guiding
leading
the
public
conversation
about
how
we
provide
the
services
that
people
want
and
there's
a
remarkable
contrast
in
front
of
us.
K
We
all
have
known
for
years
and
years
and
years
that
to
deliver
the
suite
of
services
that
the
public
demands
of
us
requires
that
we
increase
the
amount
of
revenue.
We
have
we've
always
known
that
an
important
part
of
solving
the
problems
that
Torontonian
Toni
ins
want
us
to
solve
raises
the
property
issue
of
there
being
a
revenue
problem,
and
some
people
in
in
the
debate
over
the
last
bunch
of
years
have
been
willing
to
tell
that
truth
and
others
have
not
I'm
I'm,
I'm,
delight
and
delighted
and
heartened
mr.
K
mayor
that
you've
taken
the
very
courageous
step
to
say
to
Torontonians.
If
we're
going
to
build
the
transit
system,
you
want,
if
we're
going,
to
build
the
housing
system
that
you
want,
we
need
to
collect
the
money
to
pay
for
it.
That's
a
remarkable
show
of
leadership.
By
contrast,
the
other
report-
that's
in
front
of
us,
is
the
product
of
an
approach
to
politics,
to
pretend
that
you
can
eat
your
cake
and
have
your
cake
and
somehow
a
magical
fairy
called
efficiencies
will
provide
you
with
that
second
cake
during
the
term
of
office.
K
When
Rob
Ford
was
mayor,
we
paid
an
enormous
amount
to
consultants
to
come
back
and
tell
us
what
we
already
knew,
which
is
that
most
of
the
services
that
the
City
of
Toronto
delivers
ninety-five
percent
of
them.
If
I
remember
correctly,
our
core
services-
and
you
know,
mayor
Ford-
was
unwilling
to
show
the
same
kind
of
leadership
and
courage
that
our
current
mare
is
so
instead
of
telling
people
the
truth,
he
paid
consultants
to
come
and
tell
us
what
we
already
knew
that
our
services
were
largely
core
services.
K
Now
that
his
brother
is
the
premier
and
his
brother
was
also
unwilling
to
tell
the
people
of
Toronto
and
the
people
of
Ontario
the
truth,
which
is
that,
if
you
want
these
services,
they
cost
money,
he's
employees
managed
to
find
yet
another
consulting
firm
to
come
back
and
tell
us
what
we
already
knew,
which
is
if
we
want
to
continue
to
deal
with
the
growing
demands
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
And
if
we
want
to
recognize
that
the
City
of
Toronto
has
to
provide
regional
services
that
you
have
to
increase
your
revenue.
K
So
KPMG
made
a
whole
bunch
of
money
off
the
Fords
telling
you
know
not
being
willing
to
tell
us
the
truth.
Now,
our
instant
young
has
made
a
whole
bunch
of
money,
because
the
Fords
weren't
willing
to
tell
voters
the
truth,
I'm
just
delighted
that
we
finally
have
leadership
here
at
the
City
of
Toronto.
K
We
we
are
prepared
to
tell
people
the
truth,
which
is
that
if
you
want
to
be
living
in
a
great
city
that
provides
the
services
you
need
in
order
to
thrive,
it
costs
money
and
we
don't
currently
collect
enough
money
and
we
will
have
to
collect
more.
So
again.
Mr.
mayor,
congratulations
to
you
for
showing
a
leadership
that
others
who
have
been
mayor
and
our
current
premier
haven't
had
the
courage
to
show.
A
Councillor
perks,
it
I
say
this
in
the
most
gracious
manner,
because
you
know
I'm,
not
I,
don't
know
how
to
take
that
when
I
have
get.
You
congratulate.
Having
said
all
that
I'll
take
it
at
face
value.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
yeah!
That's
it
exactly
so
the
council's
a
deputy
mayor
holiday
to
speak.
N
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
and
to
the
committee
I
just
want
to
open
with
a
rhetorical
quit
you
know
why
are
we
here
is
is
what
comes
to
mind
as
I
have
read
this
report
a
note
and
councillor
parks
we
brought
it
out.
Was
you
know
that
the
the
task
was
to
receive
this
report?
So
I'm
gonna
take
this
back
to
my
office
and
hole,
punch
it
and
put
it
on
my
shelf,
not
true.
It
actually
made
me
contemplate
a
lot
about
my
role
as
a
councillor
and
the
policy
decisions
I've
made.
N
In
fact
the
staffer
to
me
are
saying
to
me.
You
know,
council,
we've
done
everything.
You've
told
us
to
do.
We've
executed
the
policies
that
you've
brought
forward
and
they've
noted
a
couple
in
here.
The
CFO
said
in
the
presentation
that
you
know
our
operating
budget
will
balance.
There's
not
an
issue
that
well
that's
right
because
they'll
work
with
whatever
we
give
them,
but
at
some
point
you
have
to
ask
about
service
levels.
N
So
I
coming
to
the
meeting
I
was
thinking
about
you,
know
kind
of
bring
a
picture
of
a
burnt-out
streetlight
or
my
personal
favorite.
Is
you
know
some
grass
out
in
the
West
End
that
Sun
City
property?
We
wouldn't
even
need
our
own
bylaws,
but
the
start
helped
me
this
morning
and
they
put
a
story
just
about
safety
and
the
number
of
tickets
written
right.
So
that
I
mean
that's
a
good
litmus
test
about
you
know
what
do
we
put
our
resources
into
and
I
know
they
interact
with
the
police,
but
the
concepts
there
right.
N
You
know
how
do
we
invest
in
services
and
I,
hear
from
people
and
I?
Think
all
members
of
council
do
too
right.
You
know
we
get
those
calls
about
people
that
are
very,
very
upset
with
their
services
from
time
to
time
and
it's
not
a
knock
on
staff.
Anything
people
do
a
great
job
at
the
city,
but
they
work
with
what
we
give
them.
It
goes
back
to
fundamental
questions
of
policy
and
it's
buried
in
the
reports.
A
little
nugget
though,
but
it
talks
about
it.
It
talks
about
it,
you
know.
N
Are
we
here
to
redistribute
income
and
how
on
earth
are
we
going
to
do
that?
If
we've
only
got
property
taxes?
The
tool
I
asked
myself
the
question.
Well
then,
you
know
is
that
the
role
and
I
appreciate
very
political
question.
I'm
gonna
get
all
sorts
of
different
opinions
across
Council,
but
it
points
out
here
that
we
just
don't
have
access
to
income
tax
in
order
to
deal
with
those
fundamentally
but
we're
moving
forward
on
stuff.
N
I
think
a
great
conversation
today
was
this
discussion
around
child
care
and
I
respect
the
opinions
that
were
brought
forward.
But
you
know
the
basic
question
and
the
report
is,
you
know,
do
you
want
to
do
you
want
to
take
the
money
that
you
have
city
and
address
as
many
people
as
you
can
on
the
waiting
list
and
and
and
influence
the
delivery
of
the
service?
N
Or
do
you
want
to
do
something
a
little
different,
which
is
you
know,
look
at
the
resources
put
into
it
and
the
wages
paid
to
the
workers
and
and
deal
with
income
inequity?
In
that
way,
and
you
know,
councils
are
pined
on
that-
you
don't
have
to
go
too
far
on
it.
But
I
go
back
to
my
question
of
myself.
N
Anyways
I,
as
we
deal
with
tax
policy
and
there's
a
big
one,
that's
coming
before
this
committee
and
will
come
before
council
as
we
deal
with
these
really
big
ambitious
projects
and
endeavours
that
come
through
Council
I
think
we
always
have
to
remember
to
ask
us
ourselves
the
question,
because
that's
who
this
report
is
for
this
is
for
councillors
to
think
about
public
policy.
You
know
what
is
our
role
here.
What
is
our
expectation
and-
and
you
know,
are
we
best
position
to
to
provide
the
request
that
is
before
us?
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
B
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
want
to
thank
first
of
all
staff
and
Ian
Ernst
and
Young
for
bringing
this
report
I
think
it's
an
important
report
coming
at
a
very
critical
or
crucial
time
as
we're
moving
forward
and
I've
always
supported
the
mayor's
strong
mandate
to
get
things
done
in
the
city
and
to
do
things
while
ensuring
we
have
sound
business
practices
and
promote
prosperity
and
stability.
B
I
support
the
city,
building
fund
extension
and
the
recommendations
both
in
the
value
based
report,
because
I
know,
over
the
years
we've
continued
to
put
work
to
put
our
own
fiscal
house
in
order
and
I've
been
doing
that
as
the
budget
chair,
but
also
as
it
does
state
in
the
report.
That's
not
enough
and
I.
Now
not
that
I
didn't
understand
that
before,
but
I
do
get
a
better
sense
of
what
that
means.
B
As
I
said,
I
support
the
extension
of
the
building
levy,
and
that
was
not
an
easy
decision
for
me,
nor
should
it
have
been
in
years
past.
We
have
heard
we
need
to
raise
taxes
to
provide
the
services
I,
get
that
I
understand
that
but
I
think
I've
now
say
again.
It's
wouldn't
say
it's
a
coming
home
moment,
but
I'm
realizing
through
this
particular
report.
How
critically
important
it
is
because
it
lays
out
really
what
we
need
to
look
out
for
long
term.
B
Sustainable
fiscal
responsibility
and
I've
worked
incredibly
hard
in
the
last
five
years
with
the
mayor
to
bring
responsible
budgets
that
build
on
the
principles
of
selling
governments
and
prudent
fiscal
management,
and
we
look
at
over
the
last
five
years.
We
have
saved
hundreds
of
million
dollars
through
efficiencies
modernizations
doing
things
differently
well,
at
the
same
time,
making
important
investments
to
the
city
and
we've
seen
them
year-over-year.
B
In
fact,
when
we're
looking
at
the
efficiencies
and
the
work
we've
been
doing,
that's
how
we've
been
able
to
keep
property
taxes
on
the
operating
side
down
to
two
percent,
and
we
have
succeeded
in
doing
that,
and
we
will
continue
to
do
that
in
the
future.
But,
as
the
report
says,
and
the
city
manager
says,
I
recognize
that
that
is
not
enough
on
the
value
based
outcomes.
B
Efficiency
I
fully
support
most
of
the
recommendations
there
and
the
true
sense
of
what
our
fiscal
challenges
are,
and
it
also
states
that
there's
no
impact
some
of
the
changes
to
our
public
services.
The
report
identifies
risks
and
it
does
identify
opportunities
for
the
city
to
move
forward
and
there
are
millions,
if
not
tens,
of
millions
of
dollars
of
opportunities.
There
there's
some
transformational
change.
That
is
also
in
there
look
at
the
dollars.
They're
important,
but
I
also
look
at
the
transformational
change
on
how
we
manage
our
budgets.
Looking
at
the
process.
B
Looking
at
multi-year
budgeting
looking
at
different
ways,
we
can
do
things
differently,
especially
on
a
capital
side,
you're
going
to
be
seeing
some
of
that
coming
through
in
the
budgets,
2020
budget,
but
I,
think
underlying
the
money
and
the
efficiencies.
I.
Think
that's
where
the
real
change
needs
to
happen
at
City
Hall.
B
There
is
some
young
report,
as
I
said,
was
a
critical
part
in
me,
as
budget
chief
being
able
to
accept
and
forward
with
the
recommendation
to
extend
the
building
life
building
city
levy.
We
are
a
growing
city,
we
are
great
city,
but
we
are
growing.
We
and
when
you
look
at
our
budget,
it's
a
size
of
a
province,
but
I,
don't
know
if
we
always
act
as
a
city
like
we
should
and
I
think
we
need
to
start
looking
at
how
we
operate
differently,
and
that
has
a
lot
to
do
again.
B
Going
back
to
the
report.
Looking
at
our
processes
of
government
and
decision
making
and
embedded
in
that
report
are
some
changes
that
will
fundamentally
have
to
happen
to
really
put
us
to
the
point
where
we
really
look
at
our
budgeting
and
us
as
a
city
not
the
way
we
have
been.
But
the
way
we
need
to
be.
As
a
city
manager
mentioned
I
mean
we
are
the
we're
bearing
a
distortion
of
the
important
services
now,
including
public
transit,
public
housing,
transit
transportation
and
social
services.
But
we
can't
do
it
alone.
B
We
have
done
a
lot
and
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
in
recognizing
and
supporting
this
city
building
levee
is
to
say
that
we
are
putting
our
foot
forward
in
doing
our.
What
is
we
are
responsible
for,
but
there
are
other
partners
involved
in
that,
though
the
provincial
and
federal
governments
have
been
great
I
think
this
mayor
has
been
advocating
for
a
lot
of
investments
from
the
provincial
and
federal
governments
and
we've
been
successful,
but
I
think
we
need
to
continue
looking
at
that
as
we
move
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
H
Thank
you
very
much.
Miss
mayor
I,
first
of
all
want
to
thank
the
city
manager
and
in
the
staff
and
the
original
viewers
and
the
office
of
their
report
and
clearly
mr.
mayor
I
want
to
thank
you.
You
know
there
is
a
I
guess,
a
a
narrative.
That's
been
going
in
this
environment
for
some
time.
I
guess
it
goes
in
government
in
general.
H
It's
you
know
once
we
had
zero
after
amalgamation,
zero
taxes,
zero
taxes,
it's
the
best
for
you
and
so
on,
we're
still
paying
for
the
zeros
as
a
false
narrative
that
has
taken
place.
Often
in
our
discussion
in
terms
of
there
are
great
needs
that
are
required
in
the
city.
We
talk
about
housing.
We
talk
about
trends
that
we
talk
about
fixing
our
roads.
We
talk
about
just
investment
in
our
infrastructure.
H
We
talk
about
the
delays
and
the
challenges
that
we
have
when
we
experiencing
a
water
main
break
and
cold
days
and
the
challenges
that
that
it
offers
and
so
on,
and
the
trends
that
people
are
feeling
that
it's
not
efficient.
It
isn't
providing
they're
helping
in
terms
of
their
needs
and
their
requirement,
and
so
on
and
the
question
is
you
know?
How
do
we
address
these
things?
H
So
we
want
to
leave
the
cupboard
bare.
We
want
to
leave
the
foundation
on
touch
and
we
will
just
accept
the
status
quo
and
I
think
that's
not
leadership.
I
realize
that
it's
always
challenging
with
respect
to
any
increase
and
I
realize
as
well
and
I.
You
know
subscribe
to
the
concern
that
we
have,
which
is
the
property
tax
basis,
is
not
sufficient
for
us.
H
We
need
to
have
other
opportunities
and
tools
with
respect
to
generating
revenues
and
helping
us
with
our
capital
needs
and
so
on,
and
all
the
things
that
we
need
in
our
cities
in
in
our
communities,
and
so
it's
really
important
for
us
to
stake
out
a
position
and
then
dress
this.
We
can
all
say
that
we
voted
for
no
increase.
We
can
all
say
we
didn't
want
an
increase
in
one.
But
what
shall
we
say
about
the
challenges
that
we're
facing
in
the
city?
H
What
shall
we
say
about
the
lack
of
better
transit,
the
lack
of
proper
daycare
and
so
on,
where
the
needs
are
vast
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
space
or
the
buildings
that
we
need,
there's
a
series
of
things
that
has
to
happen
and
then
what
shall
we
say
about
ourselves
as
a
city
when
we
are
competing
globally,
whether
or
not
it's
Shenzhen,
a
Shanghai
or
Tokyo?
And
all
these
other
places
you
go
to
these
places.
H
They're
building
actually
they're
investing
they're
doing
things,
and
if
we
want
to
attract
economic
development,
oil
and
attract
opportunity
and
so
on
in
our
in
our
city,
then
we
have
to
grapple
with
this
really
tough
problem.
So
we
actually
have
a
mayor
who
says:
look
we
are
getting
the
type
of
information
that
we
need
to
react
to.
We've
got
millions
of
people
who
will
come
into
the
region.
A
million
people
will
come
into
the
City
of
Toronto
proper
by
2041.
We
have
a
vast
array
of
people
come
and
work
here,
and
so
on.
H
We've
got
congestion,
that's
taking
place
in
this
city.
That's
slowing
productivity
down
and
so
on.
Question
is
what
do
we
do?
Do
we
continue
with
the
false
narrative
and
say?
Oh
by
the
way,
we
don't
really
have
to
do
anything
or
are
we
just
simply
pass
the
buck
to
the
other
governments?
We
want
to
say
that
we
can
help
ourselves
and
we
should
help
ourselves.
We
realize
the
challenges
that
are
faced,
but
we
also
have
mechanisms
and
tools
to
help
our
seniors
who
will
be
affected
and
so
on.
H
At
the
same
time,
we
also
will
continue
as
the
mayor's
express
the
requirement
to
ask
other
levels
of
government
for
assistance
and
for
help
to
build
this
great
city
that
we
all-
and
there
are
many
people
who
are
suffering
in
this
city,
and
we
want
to
direct
some
of
those
challenges
that
they're
facing
as
well.
We
can't
do
it
without
resources
and
as
much
as
it
hurts
we
we
have
to
do
something
about
it
because
I
know
many
people
in
my
community
do
not
want
to
see
their
service
level
reduce.
H
That's
one
of
the
options
that
we
actually
have
and
I
don't
think
people
want
to
go.
There
I
think
we
have
to
find
the
combination
of
tools
that
we
will
use
as
they
all
stand.
As
saying
goes,
it's
like
making
sausages.
No
one
wants
to
know
what's
in
it,
but
we
want
it
tastes
great.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
love
it,
but
to
make
it
we
don't
want
to
get
involved.
H
H
A
Dr.
Mary
Thompson
others
wishing
to
speak
what
I
would
propose
to
do?
How
many
others
are
there
that
have
not
spoken?
That
would
like
to
speak
just
so
that
I
can
because
then
it
will
determine
whether
we
extend
for
a
few
minutes
to
finish.
I
will
speak
and
then
we
could
vote.
But
if
there's
a
several
others,
then
we
would
wait
till
after
lunch,
deputy
mayor
Barlow
anybody
else
that
has
not
spoken
that
wants
to
okay,
so
I
think
with
your
concurrence.
A
C
Mayor
well,
I
think
we
keep
talking
about
the
growth
of
this
city
and
how
much
it
is
growing,
and
it
really
feels
that
we
are
at
a
crossroads.
Everybody
talks
about
all
the
cranes
that
we
have
up
in
the
air
120
cranes.
Well,
the
reality
is
that
the
city
is
growing
in
an
unprecedented
level.
I
often
say
you
know.
C
The
second
city
behind
us
has
49
cranes
up
in
the
air
and
I
believe
it's
Seattle
or
Los
Angeles,
something
like
that,
and
that
growth
can
be
a
real
big
opportunity,
but
at
the
same
time,
is
a
real
big
challenge.
When
you
have
a
city
that
in
one
year,
has
77,000
new
residents
that
is
growing
at
at
this
level,
it
can
be
a
real
opportunity
and
it
is
a
real
challenge,
but
it
can
be
a
big
risk
as
well.
It
all
depends
on
the
way
that
you
deal
with
this.
It's
either.
C
C
But
we
don't
have
the
tools
and,
like
my
colleagues,
I
read
through
the
earnest
and
young
report
and
certain
things
actually
really
stood
out.
The
fact
that
they
compared
our
city
to
a
small
province.
The
complexes
complexities
that
we
have
are
like
a
small
province
and
I
was
listening
to
my
colleague
because
I
reflect
on
that
as
well.
What
is
our
role
here
right
and
yes,
it
is
to
fix
the
roads
and
in
squeen
the
sidewalks,
and
we
have
to
do
it
well,
but
again,
our
role
is
also
changed
as
well.
C
I
mean
our
role
is
not
to
fund
a
hundred
percent
of
the
TTC
all
of
a
chain
all
of
us
and
it
changed.
Our
role
was
not
to
deal
with
TCH
seat
well
in
the
90s.
All
that
was
downloaded
on
us.
So
are
we
going
to
be
going
to
the
Torontonians
with
this
idea
of
a
municipality
from
108
years
ago
or
we're
gonna
say
our
role
has
changed
our
responsibilities
that
the
provinces
downloaded
on
us
have
changed.
C
Our
city
has
changed
and
if
we
want
to
maintain
a
city
that
is
competing
in
the
world
stage
and
most
importantly,
is
affording
the
quality
of
life
that
the
residents
expect
the
safety
that
we
want,
the
prosperity
that
we
want,
the
affordability
that
we
want.
We
need
to
play
a
part
on
it
and
we
need
to
play
a
part
in
it
and
be
advocates
for
our
residents
well
with
the
weed,
the
provincial
and
the
federal
government.
C
But
for
that
we
have
to
have
our
leadership
in
terms
of
doing
our
part
talking
about
our
issues,
there's
no
questions
that
we
have
a
heavyweight
there's,
no
questions
that
we
need
to
go
to
the
province
and
the
federal
government
and
say
that
we
are
the
economic
engine
of
this
of
this
province.
We
are
the
economic
engine
of
this
of
this
country
and
the
same
way
that
we
need
to
deal
with
this
pressures.
C
They
also
need
to
help
us
deal
with
it,
because
if,
if,
if
we
don't
have
this
prosperity,
it's
not
only
Torontonians
that
are
gonna
suffer,
the
region
will
suffer,
the
province
will
suffer
and
the
country
will
suffer
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
realize
that
if
we're
gonna
have
a
city
of
over
3
million
people,
we
can't
just
do
things
the
same
way
that
we
did
it
up
to
now.
We
can't
govern
the
same
way.
We
can't
just
have
the
kinds
of
leadership
that
we
had
this
way.
C
C
So
it
might
bring
you
some
money
in
the
immediate
immediate,
but
if
you
don't
invest,
for
example,
in
housing
like
councillor,
Thompson
will
say:
you're
not
gonna,
attract
the
investment
in
here,
so
you're
not
going
to
collect
those
commercial
taxes.
Eventually,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
give
residents
less
of
those
taxes.
If
you
don't
have
that
tax
base
to
balance
things
out
to
have
a
city
that
is
balanced,
so
I
think
that
complexity
was
identified
as
a
complexity.
C
So
once
again,
thank
you
mayor
for
your
leadership.
I
think
this
is
an
important
step
forward
with
a
city
building
funds.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
our
continues.
Our
city
continues
to
move
and
continues
to
grow
in
a
healthy
way
and
I
think
this
is
a
step
forward
that
will
give
us
the
credibility
to
continue
to
advocate
to
the
other
orders
of
government
on
behalf
of
our
residents.
A
Thank
you
very
much
Darrell.
Are
there
any
others
wishing
to
speak,
otherwise
I
will
speak
and
we
will
then
be
able
to
vote.
So,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
my
thanks
to
the
city
staff
and
to
the
Earth
jinyoung
people
for
the
work
done
on
the
value
based
report.
I
think
we
have,
as
a
government
worked
very
well
and
will
continue
to
work
very
hard
at
finding
efficiencies.
A
It's
our
part
of
our
job
is
to
find
better
ways
to
do
things
to
do
it
continuously,
but
also
to
do
it
carefully
and
with
due
consideration,
because,
as
we've
heard
this
morning,
there
are
many
of
these
issues
that
are
far
more
complex
than
mere
accounting.
We're
dealing
here
with
issues
of
human
beings
and
and
issues
of
social
justice
and
a
lot
of
things
that
have
to
be
taken
into
account.
Some
of
these
more
complex
recommendations
in
the
external
report
are
being
made
quite
properly
the
subject
of
further
careful
consideration.
A
I
think
that's
the
right
way
to
go
about
this,
but
what's
been
sort
of
more
or
less
accepted
today,
subject
to
the
council,
accepting
it
and
it
being
accepted
as
part
of
the
budget.
He
is
that
things
that
can
be
done
and
will
be
done
to
produce
millions
of
dollars
and
savings.
And
you
know
it's
interesting,
because
millions
of
dollars
are
a
big
sum
of
money.
A
A
million
dollars
is
a
big
sum
of
money
in
the
context
of
what
it
allows
us
to
do
for
people,
and
so
it's
a
big
sum
of
money,
but
it's
also
the
right
and
necessary
thing
to
do,
and
so
we'll
proceed
to
continue
to
do
that.
We've
done
891
million
dollars
by
the
staff's
account
over
the
years,
but
the
the
millions
of
dollars
found
in
this
way
steady.
A
There's
no
secret
to
this,
and
anybody
who
looked
at
what
had
happened
in
the
last
12
months
would
understand
that
in
the
last
12
months,
maybe
even
the
last
six
but
let's
say
12.
The
first
thing
we
didn't
have
12
months
ago
we
had
a
transit
program
of
transit
plan,
but
we
didn't
have
necessarily
so
it
seems
a
transit
deal,
and
now
we
have
one
and
people
can
debate
the
merits
of
that.
A
But
the
one
thing
that
can
be
said
about
it
is
that
there
are
billions,
more
investment
dollars
coming
to
the
city
from
the
province
for
transit
expansion
that
we
badly
need.
That's
a
part
of
this
deal.
The
feds
are
contributing,
as
they
always
were,
several
billion
dollars.
We're
going
to
ask
them
to
contribute
more
up
to
that
forty
percent
threshold,
but
the
bottom
line
is
that
those
deals
require
us
to
make
our
own
contribution.
And
so
we
had
never
answered
the
question,
even
though
we
had
done
the
deal
of.
A
How
are
we
going
to
pay
for
that?
That
is
in
part,
because
also
in
the
last
12
months,
we
had
presented
to
us
for
the
first
time.
Certainly
since
I've
been
here
a
comprehensive
and
certainly
sobering,
total
of
the
amount
that
was
required
to
invest
in
the
state
of
good
repair
of
the
existing
transit
system
and
that,
as
I
recall,
total
thirty
three
billion
dollars
and
that
that
came
forward
at
the
same
time
and
formed
part
of
the
deal
that
we
reached
with
the
provincial
government
on
the
transit
program.
A
In
that
they
said
in
in
in
return,
in
fact,
for
their
making
a
greater
contribution
to
the
expansion
projects
and
taking
us
off
the
hook.
For
those
we
had
to
agree
that
we
were
going
to
put
some
of
that
money
that
we
would
have
otherwise
contributed
to
expansion,
to
state
of
good
repair
and
that's
a
huge
step
forward
and
I
will
say.
A
All
of
this
is
subject
to
desired
outcome,
that
we
have
agreed
the
province
and
ourselves
to
put
to
the
federal
government,
which
is
the
creation
of
a
permanent
one-third,
one-third,
one-third
state
of
good
repair
funding
mechanism.
The
third
thing
that
happened
in
the
last
six
days,
let
alone
the
last
six
months
or
a
year,
was
the
coming
forward.
A
The
bad
news
is
that
the
total
of
one
third
of
a
one-third
share,
because
we
had
said
that
we
thought
in
order
to
make
this
appear
to
be
fair
in
terms
of
us.
Making
a
contribution
of
this
was
that
we
would
we
would
contribute.
A
third
is
that
a
third
of
twenty
four
and
a
half
billion
is
over
eight
billion
dollars.
So
again,
there
was
a
gap
on
the
question
of
how
were
we
gonna
pay
for
this,
but
we
sure
know
that
we
need
the
affordable
and
supportive
housing
and
every
single
element
of
that
plan.
A
So
the
bottom
line
is
a
lot,
has
changed
in
the
last
12
months
and
I
believe
I'm
just
doing
my
job
here.
You
know
some
of
my
people
that
I
worked
very
closely
when
I
was
an
advisor
and
they
were
leaders
of
government.
Mr.
Davis
and
mr.
Val
Rooney
in
particular.
Both
were
fond
of
repeating
to
me.
When
we
were
talking
about
what
we
should
do
and
given
circumstances,
you
can
never
go
wrong
doing
the
right
thing.
A
As
was
said
by
a
number
of
the
colleagues
here
to
protect
its
success,
the
city
is
very
successful.
At
the
moment,
there
are
some
people
not
enjoying
that
success
as
much
as
others,
and
what
we're
doing
is
the
city
is
to
protect
the
success
overall
and
to
make
sure
that
we
can
more
equitably
share
that
success
with
everybody
we're
building
for
days
that
are
out
on
the
horizon
and
I.
Think
people
trust
us
to
do
that.
I
believe
and
I'm
not
being
immodest
in
saying
this.
A
I
think
trust
me
to
do
the
right
thing
in
leading
and
bringing
this
kind
of
thing
forward.
I
think
they
trust
us
collectively
to
do
the
right
thing
to
build
up
the
city
and
I
think
that's
what
we
will
do
by
moving
these
two
things
forward
today
and
so
I.
Thank
you
for
what
I
think
was
a
very
good
discussion
this
morning
and
I.
Think
if
there's
no
one
else,
we're
ready
to
call
the
question
on
this
and
so
I
think
it's
proper.
We
should
have
a
recorded
vote.
A
A
N
H
A
X
11.5
over
there,
any
other
people
wishing
to
ask
questions
of
staff
or
speak
on
that
otherwise
councillor
Thompson
had
held
it
and
he's
releasing
that
and
I'm
prepared
to
take
the
recommendation
and
put
it
to
a
vote
already.
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Kerry.
Thank
you
and
out
of
deference
to
the
fact
that
I
know
that
the
councillor
Ainsley
gets
indigestion.
He
eats
too
fast,
we'll
come
back
at
1:35,
giving
you
five
extra
minutes
so
we'll
see
you
at
1:35.