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Executive Committee, meeting 28, October 24, 2017 - Part 2 of 2
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Part 1 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcG6Z_RvF1Q#t=6m22s
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With
your
kind
concurrence,
colleagues
and
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
should
do
now
in
the
context,
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
it
really
wasn't
anybody
holding
anything
I,
don't
think
that
we
could
ever
leases
for
I
think
it
was
mostly
held
by
me
because
of
deputations.
So
we
do
have
the
matter
at
two
o'clock
on
the
coca-cola
Civic
Center
has
agreed
before
lunch,
and
so
since
we've
set
that
expectation,
I
guess
what
we
could
do
is
have.
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B
One
of
the
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
I
have
with
this
report
is
this
one
little
paragraph
that
says
that
they
that
you
can't
receive
donations
online,
its
27th?
Is
it
2017?
You
know
all
of
you
when
you
run
in
an
election,
have
a
PayPal
button
or
whatever
other
other
provider.
The
city
with
what
9,
10
11
billion
dollar
budget,
can't
see
if
they
figure
out
how
to
add
an
online
donation
option,
your
people
are
smart
and
wonderful.
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A
Mister
clarity,
any
questions
of
the
deputy.
Are
there
any
questions
of
staff?
Are
there
any
members
of
the
committee
wishing
to
speak
all
right?
Well,
then,
I
would
ask
for
a
motion
to
to
accept
the
I
think
it
was
just
to
receive
their
primary
just
to
have
a
look
here.
It
was
to
receive
the
report.
So
a
motion
to
receive
the
report.
Councillor
Pasternak,
Council,
Robbins
and
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry.
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B
All
candidates
meet
meetings,
even
if
you're
aware,
but
Rogers
TV,
with
Dale
gold
hawk
or
whatever
his
name
is
you
used
to
hold
them
and
its
twenty
three
dollars
an
hour
for
not
non-profit
groups,
it
it
to
rent
it
to
renters
those
million
rooms.
I.
Had
this
the
same
reputation
when
counselors,
Robinson
and
policy,
where
we're
sitting
on
on
the
board
$22.
So
now
we're
in
the
and
about
I.
Think
it's
80,
no
120
lot
dollars
an
hour
for
commercial
library.
B
Cost
me
$5,000
for
three
hours
and
you
have
her
tight,
but
we
we
have
a
meeting
rooms
and
you
all
have
at
least
one
room
in
your
branches
and
that
community
can
the
candidates,
support
and
I
come
and
come
against
this
going
from
your
experience,
act
from
your
from
your
expense
that
comes
with
all
due
respect
to
cancer
Ainsley,
but
that
there
are
eight,
eighty
or
so
branches
with
with
me
rooms,
there's
three
a
theater
style
in
rooms
in
York,
woods,
reference,
librarian,
Palmerston,
I!
Think
it's
the
third
one.
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B
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D
A
passion
I
have
good
way.
My
experience
is
that
all
candidates
meetings
take
place
in
the
location
of
someone
who
is
hosted
it
and
organized
it
and
or
and
absorbs
the
cost
of
those
meetings.
That's
that's.
Those
are
the
ones
I
go
to
whether
it's
a
synagogue,
a
church,
some
kind
of
restaurant
or
who
knows
what,
but
usually
a
private
organization,
has
arranged
the
whole
thing
and
covered
expenses.
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E
Thank
You,
Mara,
Tori
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
bit
of
background
about
why
I
put
this
motion
forward
during
the
last
federal
election.
So
in
my
word,
I
have
a
number
of
different
community
associations.
I
have
a
wide
area
that
doesn't
have
any
community
associations
at
all.
I,
don't
have
any
business
improvement
areas
or
business
associations.
There
was
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
platform's
of
the
different
candidates.
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I
was
interested
in
hearing
from
the
candidates
about
what
they
were
doing
on
a
number
of
city
issues
and
how
they
were
gonna
fund
us
and
how
they
were
gonna
pay
attention
to
us
as
a
municipality,
so
I
had
an
all
candidates
meeting
in
when
the
local
public
libraries
is
mr.
glavish
alluded
to
so
I
got
the
space
at
a
nominal
amount
of
money.
I
still
had
to
do
a
flyer
get
it
advertised,
I
had
to
have
it
delivered
and
at
the
end
of
it.
E
When
I
submitted
the
expenses
into
the
to
the
clerk's
Department,
they
said
that
my
ability
to
I
was
not
allowed
under
the
constituency
office
or
my
office
budget
to
host
and
pay
for
an
all
candidates
meeting,
as
we
come
up
next
year
to
a
provincial
election,
so
I
have
the
same
concerns
as
I
did
in
the
last
federal
election.
Is
we
have
a
raft
of
issues
and
concerns
that
I
think
need
to
be
addressed?
E
We
have
to
make
sure
that
any
any
candidate
running
for
any
of
the
provincial
parties
needs
to
know
what
the
concerns
are.
Our
residents
need
to
know
that
we,
as
city
councillors,
are
trying
to
make
sure
that
those
concerns
are
heard
and
addressed
by
anybody.
That's
going
to
end
up
as
the
local
MPP,
so
I'm
simply
putting
this
before
us.
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F
So
city
tax
dollars
shouldn't
be
used
for
prevention
to
involve
ourselves
in
provincial
or
federal
elections,
and
then
the
other
thing
is
is
once
we
start
doing
this.
All
of
a
sudden.
There
becomes
a
burden
and
an
obligation
on
us
to
start
organizing
meetings
for
things
that
are
actually
completely
out
of
our
jurisdiction.
So
it's
an
interesting
idea,
but
the
scope
of
what
we
have
to
do
is
already
quite
large,
and
I
would
like
to
focus
in
on
the
things
that
we
need
to
focus
on.
E
Deputy
mayor
minimum
so
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
when
you
say
that
things
aren't
outside
of
our
jurisdiction
as
we're
trying
to
get
funded
for
transit
housing,
social
services,
our
emergency
services
that
are
below
the
cost
shared
agreement.
Don't
you
see
those
as
issues
that
we
should
make
sure
are
heard
and
understood?
We
all
the
candidates
during
a
provincial
election.
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D
You
I'll
just
speak
very
briefly:
yeah
I
think
this
is
extremely
problematic
and
it
is
not
our
purview
at
all
to
organize
meetings
of
this
nature
for
political
parties
that
raise
millions
of
dollars
during
the
campaigns
before
and
after
this
is
a
slippery
slope
that
would
get
us
involved
in
party
politics.
One
of
the
reasons
that
municipal
politics
is
an
appeal
to
many
is
that
political
parties
are
supposedly
not
not
involved.
This
would
not
be
an
appropriate
use
of
public
expenses,
and
this
would
not
be
an
appropriate
use
of
our
office
budgets.
A
I
think
it
raises
eyebrows,
and
in
this
case
I
just
don't
think
it's
an
appropriate
use.
I
think
it
does.
You
know,
take
us
off
into
the
realm
as
much
as
I
understand
what
councilor
mean
is
he's
saying
about
asking
questions
and
getting
answers
from
people
who
are
running
for
other
governments.
I
think
it
just
takes
us
off
into
the
realm
that
other
people
already
organize
lots
of
all
candidates.
Meetings,
I
think
his
circumstances,
a
bit
unusual
I,
will
concede
in
the
context
that
he
says
there
are
no
residents
associations
who
readily
do
that.
A
A
You
know
I'm
gonna
be
having
meetings
up
here
with
the
leaders
of
the
parties
on
your
behalf
to
sort
of
talk
to
them
about
their
platform,
so
I
think
it's
a
valid
concern,
but
I
just
think
it's
it's
not
something
that
is
gonna.
The
benefit
will
be
outweighed
by
the
but
the
drawback.
So
those
are
my
comments
and
I
think
if
there
are
no
others
wishing
to
be
heard,
we
can
proceed
to
the
question.
First
on
the
motion
to
defer
indefinitely
move
by
Deputy,
Merriman
and
wall,
all
those
in
favor
recorded
vote.
A
C
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C
Thank
you
very
much.
This
the
clerk's
have
a
quick
motion
that
I
think
everybody
will
be
comfortable
with.
This
is
an
important
issue
for
Transportation
on
how
to
implement
this,
and
so
this
is
just
looking
at
warrants
in
consultation
with
the
TPS,
the
Toronto
Police
Services
and
the
Highway
Traffic
Act,
and
just
give
us
a
bit
of
guidance
for
all
the
parties
that
will
be
involved
in
the
development
of
this
plan.
As
we
move
forward.
A
C
A
Any
question
other
questions
of
the
mover:
all
right
are
there
any
others
wishing
to
speak
on
the
matter
that
haven't
previously
spoken
or
speaking
to
the
amendment
the
motion.
All
right,
then
I'll
call
the
question
on
the
motion.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
and
do
I
have
to
take
a
revote
I.
Guess
then,
on
the
motion
as
amended
matter
as
amended
on
the
matter
as
amended,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry.
The
item
is
a
minute.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
A
Let
me
just
see
now,
if
we
have,
with
five
to
two
inches,
have
one
more.
What
about
the
item?
Twenty
eight
point:
two:
nine
reform
support
for
reform
of
the
municipal
class
environmental
assessment
process.
We
had
one
deputy
there.
Mr.
Wilson,
are
you
ready
to
be
heard
from
mr.
Wilson
we're
ready
to
hear
from.
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L
Thank
you
if
this
is
in
response
to
the
worsening
environmental
crises,
that's
great
we're
in
deep
trouble
and
some
parts
of
the
world
are
far
worse
than
we
are
in
our
consumption
here,
including
hypermobility,
is
worsening
at
all.
This
is
an
example:
pardon
the
beat-up
cell,
but
that's
an
indication
of
the
pace
of
climate
change
by
forcing
compared
with
the
energy
in
Hiroshima
atomic
bombs.
Climate
change
is
especially
troublesome
because
it
really
is
accelerating
beyond
a
a
tipping
point,
I'm
afraid
that's
an
old
clipping
oops.
This
is
from
His
Royal
Highness,
Prince
Charles.
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This
is
a
call
to
revolution.
He
says
revolution
and
sustainability
is
needed,
so,
yes,
I,
suppose
I'm
a
bit
of
a
radical.
The
environmental
commissioner
of
Ontario
has
looking
for
leadership.
The
former
one
and
both
the
current
one
really
are
getting
on
climate
change
issues
and
transport
leads
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
We
have
real
issues
with
that
because
we're
not
really
reacting
too
well
to
it
all.
There's
an
awful
lot
of
energy
and
materials
used
in
a
roadway,
and
there
are
a
set
of
environmental
issues
associated
with
that
material.
L
How
much
of
our
asphalt
is
locally
produced
or
the
materials
of
our
cars,
especially
batteries
or
tires?
So
it's
not
exactly
news,
I
suppose
and
I'm
a
bit
of
a
dark,
green,
but
I
think
we
should
be
wary
about
embracing
proposals
unreservedly
from
road
builders
with
respect
to
them
all,
including
the
workers,
because
we
need
good
roads
at
times
and
who
was
fussing
about
paving
them
a
century
ago.
L
The
tonnage
of
a
road
is
staggering
and
we
don't
have
a
good
handle
on
how
much
is
used
in
any
project
and
the
use
of
concrete
is
doubly
heavy
on
the
atmosphere
as
there's
a
secondary
greenhouse
gas
impact
or
primary
I
suppose
in
the
making
of
cement,
let
alone
the
energy
cost
of
moving
and
then
removing
it
and
for
the
scale
of
emissions
and
our
and
our
materials.
Throughput
look
at
the
size
of
the
less
you
streets
pit.
L
That's
about
as
old
as
most
of
us,
perhaps,
and
it's
larger
than
the
island
as
a
land
form
and
there's
a
pyramid
effect
as
well.
Our
greenhouse
gas
profile
doesn't
include
concrete
usage
specifically,
and
it
should
how
much
is
used
by
the
city
and
its
agencies.
Each
year,
shouldn
da's
really
include
the
existing
tonnage
and
new
tonnage,
and
please
include
the
TTC
as
well.
L
A
further
reform
would
be
to
ask
the
province
to
alter
the
transit,
the
EAS
to
again
require
a
review
of
possible
options,
along
with
the
intervener
project
funding
for
projects
above
100
million
dollars.
While
you
are
as
a
group
tending
to
support
the
suspect
subway
extension
only
a
decade
ago,
the
TTC
was
okay
with
rebuilding
the
SRT,
for
perhaps
a
ninth
of
the
cost
of
what's
proposed.
L
L
I
would
also
like
to
particularly
S
and
squeezing
the
billions
for
a
West
End
relief
line
to
along
with
a
new
idea
for
a
reversible
bus
way
along
the
waterfront,
which
I
hope
to
get
to
in
a
little
while
and
particularly
relate
to
to
reject
the
notion
that
EAS
are
such
a
blight
on
progress,
and
this
is
one
example.
I
guess
I've
been
for
hit
sorry
to
bring
up
the
front
Street.
The
extension
I
know.
Some
of
you
are
a
bit
tired
of
it
after
15
odd
years.
L
Part
of
the
the
the
the
the
the
city
as
between
the
pinch
point
of
the
the
base
of
High
Park
over
to
over
to
the
central
core,
because
this
is
where
we
really
really
really
need
heavy,
robust
transit.
As
indicated
by
the
the
downtown
relief
line,
west
and
ideas,
we've
had
real
plans
for
a
half
century
or
so
to
put
robust
transit
in
along
the
east-west
alignment.
It's
the
most
logical
place
in
the
city,
I
think
for
improving
the
transit
a
bit
more
needed
than
than
some
other
areas.
L
So
we
need
to
do
with
things
everywhere
and
somehow
you
know:
okay,
we
managed
to
get
the
front
Street
extension
deflected
the
local
Road
survived.
So
when
it
came
out
the
gain
for
re,
you
know
re-approve
Ola,
one
six.
Five,
six
years
later
it
was
almost
a
piecemeal
and
because
it
occupied
the
same
land
as
the
downtown
relief
line.
No,
yes,
that
clock
is
not
working,
sir,
that's
what
507,
oh,
my
goodness,
so.
L
Journey
that'd
be
great
okay,
so
the
West
waterfront
LRT
EA
was
really
good
value.
It
had
to
we
need
EA's,
we
need
to
be
able
to
say,
hey
city
you're,
not
doing
a
good
enough
job
on
this.
Let's
have
another
look
see
we
get
better
planning
and
we
desperately
need
better
planning,
and
that
will
mean
better
expenditures
as
well.
Thank.
A
You
mr.
Wilson
questions
of
the
deputy
all
right
hearing.
None
all.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
your
time.
Are
there
questions
of
staff?
Are
there
any
members
wishing
to
speak
all
right?
In
that
case,
I
will
call
the
question
which
again
is
on
I'm.
Sorry
come
train
easily
Oh
Thank
You
counselor,
as
he
moves
the
recommendations
and
again
we're
dealing
with
item
20,
8.29
reform
of
municipal
class
environmental
assessment
process.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
to
carry
it
being
two
o'clock.
A
Some
deputations,
actually
we
don't.
We
had
one
that
the
mister
glavish
you
cancelled,
so
we
can
move
straight
to
questions
of
staff,
starting
with
pardon
me
visitors
to
the
committee
today,
any
councillor
teach
Ana
or
anybody
have
any
questions
of
staff.
Nope
all
right
questions
of
staff
from
committee
members.
M
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
so
I'm
pretty
excited
for
for
today's
agenda
item.
It
is
something
that
folks
in
Etobicoke,
not
just
in
Ward
5,
but
throughout
the
West
End
of
Toronto.
They
know
this
file
very,
very
well,
and
it's
something
that
excites
everyone
and
myself.
I
am
always
you
know.
Throughout
my
travels
in
a
total
people
are
always
talking
about
the
West
with
the
other
lines.
This
is
an
integral
city.
M
Building
initiative
I
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
not
only
with
Bill
Toronto
councillor
shiner
councillor
by
Lao
and
other
city
staff,
to
bring
a
plan
forward
that
frankly,
the
business
case
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Is
there
a
better
plan
other
than
this
plan
to
support
more
affordable
housing
in
Etobicoke?
There
is
no
better
plan.
Is
there
a
better
plan
to
encourage
more
civic
and
Recreation
space
in
a
topical
other
than
this
plan?
M
There
isn't
a
better
plan
and
is
there
a
better
plan
to
really
capitalize
on
the
millions
of
dollars
of
undervalued,
City
assets
that
we
have
in
Etobicoke,
but
this
plan-
and
the
answer
is
no
so
on
behalf
of
of
all
the
residents
of
Etobicoke
I'm
asking
this
committee
to
to
certainly
accept
the
recommendations
of
this
report.
This
is
going
to
essentially
bring
a
new
downtown
to
West
Toronto.
M
It's
exactly
what
the
city
needs,
the
the
notion
of
being
able
to
bring
more
office
jobs
in
in
Ward
5,
particularly,
we
have
a
huge
commercial
business
corridor,
probably
the
biggest
in
the
city.
Well,
we
need
more
of
those
office.
Jobs
and
you'll
know
that
this
area
here
is
part
of
the
one
of
the
four
growth
areas
of
the
city.
You
will
know
that
the
ship
Center,
for
instance
the
old
clerical
Center
it's
at
capacity
now
with
office
jobs.
M
Josie
skill,
Leigh
from
deputy
city
manager,
internal
corporate
services,
Jeanne
Roma
from
parks
who
is
now
putting
into
the
10
year
capital
plan
the
need
for
community
center.
We
have
thousands
and
thousands
of
new
units
coming
online
in
this
area.
Of
course,
Greg
Lynn
Turner
acting
a
city
manager,
who's
put
in
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
over
the
last
few
weeks,
making
sure
that
he
got
the
nod
of
approval
and,
of
course,
Adamson
Henning
Larsen
proposal.
We
did
an
international
design,
competition
and
this
design
is
very,
very
exciting
from
so
many
different
aspects.
M
It
is,
it
is
unbelievable,
what's
happening
or
what's
going
to
be
possible
on
these
lands?
So
that's
that's!
That's
what
I
want
to
say
and
thanks
who
thank
you
all
for
the
for
the
hard
work
you.
It
really
was
a
a
citywide
staff
effort
to
make
this
make
this
report
possible
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
A
A
We
can
put
you
over
this
tab.
You
speak
in
a
moment
or
two
other
other
members
of
the
committee
wishing
to
speak
well.
I'll
say
a
couple
of
words,
because
I
don't
have
to
I,
don't
have
to
go
last.
I
can
go
now
just
to
say
this.
Two
things
number
one
I
support
this
project,
I
supported
and
asked
quite
a
few
questions.
A
A
It
is
going
to
start
with
dramatically
improved
infrastructure
that
is
being
necessitated,
or
perhaps
you
might
argue,
it's
only
going
to
happen
because
we're
gonna
do
this
development
as
well,
but
then
I
think
even
more
importantly,
much
more
important
than
what
we're
gonna
do
with
roads
and
overpasses
and
whatnot.
We
are
going
to
have
if
council
by
law
has
anticipated
motion.
You're
gonna
hear
in
a
moment
that
comes
to
pass
a
very
significantly
increased
supply
of
housing,
particularly
rental
housing,
and
within
that,
affordable,
housing
and
I.
A
Think
this
is
going
to
be
a
huge
plus
for
the
city,
an
opportunity
to
do
something
quite
significant
there
in
that
regard,
as
well
as
many
other
things,
including
open
space
and
so
on
and
so
I.
If
it
was
just
a
government
building,
we
were
putting
up
you
know,
and
that
was
it
a
new
government
building.
I'd
probably
say
you
know
what
let's
not
bother
with
that.
We
have
other
things
to
do.
It
is
much
more
than
that.
A
It
is
creating
a
new
precinct
there
that
is
going
to
be
an
exciting
precinct
for
a
whole
bunch
of
different
areas
of
city
life,
including
in
particular,
better
infrastructure
and
much
better
and
more
plentiful
housing
and,
on
that
basis,
and
on
the
base
on
they
understand,
I
have
that
our
staff
are
working
hard
to
make
sure
it
is
a
very
efficient
new
real
estate
development,
as
per
the
part
that
we
use
I'm,
very
supportive
of
so
I
just
wanted
to
register
those
comments.
Counselor,
bio,
deputy
mayor,
are
you
ready
with
your
motion
all
right?
A
N
Thank
You
mayor
I
just
want
to
start
by
thanking
staff
that
worked
on
on
this
project
and
counsel
for
the
channel,
and
this
motion
was
work.
I
worked
together
with
the
local
councillor,
because
this
is
something
that
he's
looking
forward
to
have,
as
well
as
a
mixture
of
tenure
on
that
on
that
site
as
well-
and
this
is
it's
exciting
to
see
the
city
finally
having
a
coordinated
approach
towards
real
estate
and
really
leverage
leveraging
its
assets.
N
The
way
that
the
deal
was
structured
and
the
way
that
we
put
it
out
on
the
street
or
the
province
did
because
it's
their
land
with
the
West
Don
lands
I
think,
should
serve
as
an
example
for
a
lot
of
the
work
that
is
being
done
in
here
and
that's
why
I'm
moving
this
motion?
That
will
continue
to
give
some
flexibility,
because
this
is
a
big
site,
so
there
is,
there
will
still
be
some.
A
flexibility
has
some
rental
and
ownership,
but
really
to
tackle
two
issues
that
are
major
importance
for
this.
N
For
the
city,
we
have
a
very,
very
low
vacancy
rate
in
general
in
rental,
so
we
need
to
lead
by
example
and
try
to
incentivize
and
to
use
our
lands
to
create
rental
period.
Out
of
that,
we
need
to
ensure
that
we
create
at
the
affordable
rental
and
20%
of
the
site
to
affordable
rental.
I
think
is,
is
crucial
as
important.
I
do
caution
because
I
know
in
the
math
here
there
is
an
allocation
of,
depending
on
the
options,
20
million
or
25
million
to
2
towards
this
project.
N
We're
gonna
need
more
than
that
to
bring
this
to
reality,
and
it
will
be
extremely
important
to
have
the
new
realty
agency,
our
affordable
housing
office
and
everybody
in
the
city,
coordinated
again
to
make
sure
we
deliver
on
this.
But
we
have
an
opportunity
again,
like
we've
done
together
with
the
province,
and
then
this
in
this
case
it's
our
land.
So
we
should
continue
to
lead
by
example,
to
produce
together
with
the
private
sector,
thousands
of
rental
units
and
have
almost
a
thousand
units
according
to
the
numbers
that
staff
are
using
of
affordable
housing.
N
So
thank
you
again
for
everybody
that
put
this
together
and
we'll
continue
we're
looking
forward
to
continue
to
work
with
you,
and
we
have
a
great
opportunity
in
here.
We
hope
that
this
will
be
the
first
of
many
many
projects
to
come
and
and
many
many
more
units
that
we
can.
We
can
deliver
in
the
city.
So
thank
you.
K
N
N
N
You
as
the
conversation
that
we've
had
that
has
to
be
it
has
to
come
through
the
the
way
that
you
put
it
with
the
RFP.
It
has
to
be
done
with
the
affordable
housing
office
and
it
has
to
be
done
with
the
open
door
program,
and
these
sees
and
that's
like
we
we
do
all
projects
like
we
did
with
the
West
Don
lands.
N
So
when
we
did
with
the
AHS
West
Don
lands,
we
we
use
proceeds
of
the
sale
like
you're
doing
here,
you're
putting
twenty
five
million
dollars
of
the
proceeds
of
the
sale
to
go
towards
this
project.
We
used
open
door
incentives,
we
used
investment,
affordable
housing
program
dollars,
that's
how
we
were
able
to
create
the
affordable
housing.
That's
what
would
have
to
be
done
in
here,
I'm,
just
saying
that.
K
N
N
You
can
ask
staff,
that's
the
contribution
that
is
making.
You
cannot
build,
affordable
housing
with
twenty
three
thousand
dollars.
You
do
what?
What
level
of
affordability
do
you
create
with
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
a
unit?
The
work
still
needed
to
be
done
together
with
the
affordable
housing
office,
with
the
other
levy,
iah
money
to
create
the
affordability.
It's
exactly
the
same
thing
that
is
being
asked
in
here,
just
that
we
are
defining
as
rental
tenure.
A
I,
just
it
sounds
like
maybe
there's
a
there's,
a
need
for
some
further
discussion
as
between
the
two
and
it
may
well
be
that
we
can
either
just
vote
or
because
I
think
we're
getting
close
to
the
end
of
the
speaker's
list.
You
you
you,
you
were
just
that
was
questions
of
the
movie
were
asking,
so
you
still
have
the
right
to
speak.
If
you
want
or
we
can
hold
down,
and
you
can
have
a
chat
because
it
would
I
think
we
were
right.
I
think
wanting
to
have
a
consensus
on
this.
A
That
would
bring
us,
then,
if
we
go
back
to
the
ordinary
order
of
the
agenda,
that
was
it'syou,
know
Josephine.
Where
do
we
three?
Oh,
the
transit
transit?
Yes,
that
was
pending
some
information,
so
that
brings
us
then
yes,
I,
think
back
in
the
ordinary
course
of
the
agenda
to
item
28,
exact
executive
committee,
item
28
point
three:
the
public
transit
infrastructure
phase,
one
update
and
we
did
have
a
deputation
on
that
mr.
Wilson.
So
we'll
have
you
come
and
speak
to
us
now.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
You
again,
there's
no
doubt
that
having
the
federal
money
in
is
absolutely
wonderful
in
many
many
ways
and
it's
great
to
have
the
the
support
for
both
the
hardware
for
the
transit
and
some
some
other
things
and
also
for
the
but
for
the
bikes.
But
but
we
do
have
to
be
somewhat
cautious.
Are
we
looking
for
investment
or
are
we
looking
for
spending?
L
Sometimes
it's
like
the
quality
versus
quantity
argument
for
some
bike
lanes,
and
are
we
sure
that
all
the
priorities
are
really
as
wonderful
as
all
that,
and
is
it
really
what
we're
wanting
is
it?
Sometimes
we
don't
have
a
fulsome
reflection,
I
think
of
priorities,
maybe
that's
more
so
in
the
bike.
Air
there's
also
an
opportunity
costs
sometimes
and
then
operating
costs.
And
yes,
there
are
politics
involved
in
some
of
these
choices.
Here's
something
old
trongs
with
the
toronto
planning,
transit
planning,
crazy
and
political
Oh.
Only
from
2002
it's
an
older
one.
L
We
have
a
fresh
update,
there's
a
reference
to
the
Scarborough
subway
extension,
which
I
think
is
is
problematic
for
us
all.
There's
another
one,
Scarborough
subway,
leading
to
costly,
dead
and
I.
Think
I'm
in
that
camp
and
then
sometimes
the
facts,
don't
matter
that
was
a
23-19
vote
with
many
of
you
in
the
23
camp
in
terms
of
having
things
go,
go
I
think
off
the
rails,
even
though
we
need
to
spend
money
on
transit
I'm,
not
saying
that
the
federal
level
does
have
a
real
responsibility
for
climate,
we're
laggards
on
the
climate
issues.
L
Unfortunately,
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
transit
is
actually
good
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
we're
totally
away
from
the
thought
that
the
only
type
of
good
transit
is
subway
transit,
especially
when
they're
in
the
less
wise
places
in
sometimes
wrong
places.
Again,
the
the
trend
of
the
transit
is
politicized
and,
sadly,
I
think
our
planning
is
is
is
awry
and
that
we
haven't
been
looking
for
new
corridors,
which
I
think
is
what's
really
needed
in
this
city.
Not
overloading
the
Danforth
corridor,
not
overloading
the
young
corridor
anymore.
L
Looking
for
new
corridors
and
changing
the
type
of
transit
away
from
a
milk
run
to
try
to
get
to
the
sub-regional
faster
routes
somehow
and
going
beyond,
go
as
well,
because
the
goal
is
a
different
system
and
the
game
bless
at
all
four
and
the
people
that
bring
it,
bring
it
on
a
daily
basis
and
the
province
for
funding
it.
But
I
think
we
need
to
have
more
more
options
developed
in
the
East
End,
for
instance,
st.
Clair,
Avenue,
East
and
East
thing.
Could
we
connect
those
as
one
option
and
Lawrence
Avenue
is
disconnected?
L
We
need
to
like
expand
our
options
and
I
I'm
disappointed
with
the
the
the
lack
of
thinking
about
what
else
could
we
be
doing
with
these
new
corridors?
It's
beside
the
Don
Valley
Parkway,
there's
a
spur
line,
that's
owned
by
Metrolink,
so
it's
quite
a
substantial
length
and
the
Don
Valley
Parkway
itself
is
relatively
you
know
not
so
populated
with
people
and
if
he
started
to
build
better
transit,
even
a
reversible
sort
of
transit
idea.
L
Maybe
that's
a
way
to
get
up
to
thorn
cliff
and
if
you
get
up
the
thorn
cliff
well,
could
we
actually
have
a
surface
relief
line
done
in
five
years
to
actually
get
up
to
to
the
to
the
North
York
area,
which
I
think
is
part
of
what
we
really
need
to
be
doing
so,
when
we're
talking
about
planning
for
the
relief
line?
I'm
not-
and
it's
great
I
guess
to
be
talking
subways
but
I'm-
not
sure
that
it's
really
the
best
thing
to
be
doing.
L
If
we
can
do
surface
things
like
having
this
sort
of
surface
relief
line,
that
brings
in
to
the
core
plus
connecting
maybe
even
foreign,
cleft
Park
a
lot
better,
because
I
think
we
need
to
actually
be
working
to
really
try
and
squeeze
the
money
a
little
bit
and
unfortunately,
with
the
overload
of
the
the
staff
that
I
think
has
been
shown
with
this
report
coming
out
just
really
on
Monday
somebody
had
to
work
over
the
weekend.
Thank
you.
L
There's
also
on
the
opportunity
cost
of
how
I
got
derailed,
how
the
staff
isn't
actually
able
to
do
some
things
because
they're
just
so
busy.
For
instance,
I've
heard
from
the
councillor
wong-tam
that
we
can't
do
that
a
little
bit
of
Bloor
Street
East
for
25,000
or
$40,000
in
the
bike
plan
of
2001.
That
would
also
be
subway
relief
for
the
price
of
paint.
It's
a
such
a
sore
gap.
L
That's
the
sort
of
thing
when,
like
we
have
40,000
bucks
that
we
can't
manage
to
spend,
and
yet
there's
millions
in
this
thing,
it's
really
galling
sometimes
because
this
has
been
overdue
from
it
was
planned
in
1992
or
something
that
was
when
that
section
was
deemed
best
for
an
east-west
bike
way.
So
the
way
that
we
do
things
sometimes
is
very
frustrating.
Thank
you.
A
C
H
Through
the
mayor,
yes,
cycling,
infrastructure
is
eligible
under
the
PTF
program.
However,
we'd
have
to
assess
any
new
potential
projects,
not
only
from
the
perspective
of
does
it
meet
the
eligibility
criteria,
but
also
is
there
pita
funding
actually
available.
As
this
report
states,
we
currently
have
a
limitation
in
the
final
year
of
the
spend
of
the
program
and
only
spend
40%
in
the
final
year.
C
H
H
J
H
Through
the
mayor,
we
have
had
a
number
of
discussions
already
at
the
staff
level,
with
both
the
province
and
the
federal
government.
Regarding
the
the
issues
that
we
were
having
with
implementation,
they
were
not
surprised
by
some
of
the
issues
that
we
were
raising
and
we
are
also
aware
that
a
number
of
other
municipalities
are
also
making
a
similar
request.
So
it
is
part
of
an
ongoing
conversation,
but
I
think
we
are
somewhat
hopeful
that
we
will
get
at
least
some
additional
flexibility.
H
Through
the
mayor,
as
the
report
states
are
a
number
of
reasons
why
there
is
delay
first
and
foremost
that
the
program
requirements
indicated
that
the
projects
had
to
be
incremental.
There
is
a
general
capacity
to
spend
problem
that
is
in
a
couple
of
program
areas.
Yes,
it
could
be
in
part
due
to
staffing
requirements,
but
in
addition,
it's
just
the
fact
that
a
number
of
these
projects
were
incremental
and
added
on
to
the
capital
plan,
which
you
know,
friends,
challenges
and
delivery.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
cosmic
man,
others
wishing
to
question
staff.
Okay,
I'm
ready
for
speakers,
then,
are
there
those
wishing
to
speak
on
this
all
right.
If
there
are
no
speakers,
then
we
would
proceed
to
the
question.
I.
Don't
think
we
have
any
motions
on
this
and
again
I'm,
just
reminding
you
that
it
is
item
28.3
as
it
was
executive
committee
item
a
28.3.
The
recommendations
are
in
front
of
you
and
I'll
call
the
question.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie
all
right.
A
F
Doing
a
lot
of
waiting,
I
think
your
mayor
and
councillors
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
I'm
mark
smith,
20-year
veteran
of
what
a
year
volunteer
veteran
the
prior
ato
three
term
prior
auto
board
member,
a
co-founder
of
product
roto
campaign
and
recipient
ability,
access
of
access,
equality,
equity
and
human
rights.
Pride
award
with
the
City
of
Toronto,
currently
I
said
as
the
as
the
co-chair
of
the
Toronto
seniors
forum
and
in
the
tsf.
F
We
have
been
reviewing
our
terms
of
reference
and
learned
a
lot
about
how
how
it
leads
leads,
how
the
the
advisory
board
interacts
with
City
Hall.
There's
there's
points
that
that
I
think
City
Council
can
lead
in
terms
of
what
do
you?
What
do
you
request
from
this
Advisory
Board?
F
You
want
it
to
be
an
advocacy
group,
an
ambassador
or
role
or
an
information
source
and-
and
my
feeling
is
having
this
committee
or
the
Advisory
Board
worked
as
an
information
source
is
probably
our
best
way
to
go,
I'm
uncomfortable
with
one
line
and
they
in
the
report
in
front
of
you
to
undertake
consultations
with
stakeholders.
My
experience
on
the
front
line
with
pride
has
taught
me
that
the
LGBT
to
sq2
s,
community
evolves
and
grows
so
quickly
than
alone,
or
how
diligent
we
are.
F
A
subset
always
continues
to
come
to
the
forefront
I'm,
finding
that
when
you
deal
with
stakeholders,
these
organizations
have
sets
of
goals
and
the
boards,
and
it
has
sets
of
goals
and
boards
that
they
have
to
answer
to
and
change
is
slow.
What
we
see
every
year
on
an
annual
basis
here
at
City
Council,
is
a
slight
D
railing
and
conversation
as
things
move
into
sort
of
I
hate
to
say
a
transphobia
and
homophobia
you
waste
of
our
time.
So
what
I?
F
What
I
think
this
advisory
board
needs
to
do
is
is
be
here
to
help
city
council
change
its
language
and
how
we
understand
the
community
and
how
we
move
forward,
because,
overall,
if
if
we
can
just
change
the
structure
within
this,
we
can
change
how
we
interact
with
the
city.
I
think
that's
it.
I've
got
all
my
notes,
but
I'm
pretty
close
to
what
I
wanted
to
say.
Like
I
said
they
leave,
the
advisory
board.
F
I
think
is
really
real
important
to
act
as
as
your
information
source
and
probably
not
so
much
is
back
to
activists.
We
have
enough
activists
in
the
city
working
on
things,
but
I
think
it's
probably
really
really
important
that
we
help
help
you
in
football
gain
a
better
understanding
and
a
better
use
of
language
as
we
move
forwards.
A
Let's,
thank
you.
Mr.
Smith
are
there
questions
of
the
deputy
I
might
just
have
one
just
in
fact
give
get
gets
a
couple
of
excuse
me
a
couple
of
seconds
of
expansion
from
you
on
just
that
in
the
last
part
of
your
comment.
There
you
talked
about.
You
know,
challenges
in
terms
of
the
interaction
with
the
city
and
so
on
and
I.
A
Just
love
you
to
expand
on
that
a
bit
in
terms
of
you
know
because
cuz
you
could
I
guess
from
time
to
time
conclude
you're
doing
fairly
well
and
I
know
you
know,
there's
lots
of
work
to
be
done,
but
just
I
wonder
if
you
could
touch
a
couple
of
the
high
points
that
might
be
helped,
for
example,
that
our
challenges
you
see
in
terms
of
the
city
relationship
with
the
community
in
the
broadest
sense.
Well,.
F
The
the
community
has
a
tendency
to
surprise
us.
The
the
one
of
the
discussions
I
have
within
the
community
is
a
lot
of
people
who
are
upset
about
the
ever-expanding
alphabet.
F
For
me,
discussion
within
the
alphabet,
the
more
letters
we
add
to
it,
the
more
it
becomes
apparent
that
we're
reaching
out
and
we're
giving
people
a
place.
So
it's
this
community
isn't
just
based
on
LGBT
when
I
first
started
as
a
volunteer
was
GLBT
that
became
LGBT
and
then
we
started
expanding
it
and
the
expansion
shows
that
there's
people
out
there
that
need
the
help
and
every
time
we
add
a
letter,
it
adds
a
little
bit
of
a
question.
F
What
does
that
mean?
Where
does
that
come
from?
How
does
this?
How
does
this
affect
and
where,
and
why
is
that
letter
being
added?
So
it
increases
conversation
then,
annually
within
within
this
structure,
we
get
pulled
back,
pulled
backwards
into
conversations
and
I
think
if,
if
as
a
whole,
we
all
understand
better
how
things
move
and
understand
that
things
change
and
understand
that
it
can't
always
be
defined
by
single
letters.
F
That's
that
I
think
is
the
biggest
challenge
it
took
me
20
years
to
start
understanding
and
I
still
don't
it's
it's
just
there's
so
many
so
many
people
that
feel
left
out
as
soon
as
we
start
putting
up
the
slightest
bit
of
a
wall.
We
end
up
with
people
being
pushed
aside
and
people.
People
need
a
place
to
belong,
and
that's
that's
really
really
important,
especially
it
comes
to
pride.
It
becomes
a
place
where
people
can
find
their
place.
They
may
not
fit
in,
but
they
have
a
place.
F
They
can
go
to
so
I
think
it's
really
important
through
language
and
and
how
we
do
things
and
we're
not
throwing
up
these
walls
of
media
blasts.
Every
June
I
think
it's
really
really
important
to
allow
people
to
to
be
able
to
feel
welcome,
and
that
comes
from
language.
So
it's
very
helpful.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
O
You
greetings
executive
committee
members
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
dub
you
today
for
considering
this
motion
on
revising
it,
but
revising
this
out
of
it.
Yeah
sorry,
advisory
body
and
developing
a
term
of
reference.
I
want
to
commend
members
of
council
and
committee
for
taking
responsible
steps
on
addressing
LGBT
Qi
2's
+
issues
in
the
municipal
level.
Throughout
the
years
there
has
been
a
significant
drift
between
City
Council
and
the
LGBT
community
by
attitudes
and
actions
of
a
former
mayor.
O
Now
what
seems
a
yearly
tradition
at
council
to
try
to
defund
prior
tronto
and
to
current
affairs
of
defunding,
vital
HIV
and
AIDS
services
like
a
Cass
and
black
cap.
This
impacts
the
very
well-being
of
the
queer
trans
community.
It
inherently
tells
us
we
as
individuals.
We
as
community
are
a
group
that
can
be
devalued
in
a
systemic
level.
This
impacts,
how
we
view
ourselves
and
how
we
view
our
role
in
the
context
of
society.
Such
messages
have
an
overall
impact
on
the
very
social
determinants
of
health.
We
experience
being
part
of
a
marginalized
community.
O
They
said,
but
this
advisory
body
will
take
responsible
steps
to
mend
the
disconnect
of
one
of
Toronto's,
most
diverse
communities
and
one
relation
and
our
relationship
to
City
Hall.
The
vital
next
steps
have
developed
being
a
term
of
reference
and
selection
process
is
crucial.
I
plead
that
the
executive
take
meaningful
steps
throughout
this
consultation
process
of
stakeholders.
O
The
stakeholders
must
be
engaged
with
a
focus
on
an
intersectional
scope
of
identity
that
truly
represent
the
diversity
of
the
LGBT
community
and
this
advisory
body.
Finally,
and
this
is
more
future
steps
regarding
the
process
and
best
practice
to
mandating
the
advisory
body
is
to
begin
with,
developing
a
community
needs
assessment
for
stakeholders.
At
the
moment
we
do
have
limited
data
underneath
means
of
the
LGBT
community
regards
to
certain
populations
within
the
LGBTQ
community.
O
A
A
E
F
Through
you,
mr.
mayor,
should
counselors,
should
committee
approved
the
direction
we
would
build
on
the
work
that
we
did
with
members
of
the
trans
community
in
the
report
that
went
to
council
several
months
ago,
and
what
we're
recommending
is
that
we
take
the
time
to
make
sure
we
do
the
kind
of
consultation
that
reaches
all
groups,
including
youth
I,
think
the
debutantes
articulated
very
well
the
diversity
complexity,
intersectionality
of
the
community,
so
we're
recommending
that
we
undertake
a
process
that
addresses
all
of
that.
Okay,.
E
D
D
D
A
G
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
mayor
and
mr.
chair
I
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
for
putting
together
this
take
you're
taking
us
to
the
next
step.
I
think
it's
really
important
work
that
we
are
about
to
undertake
number
one
is
going
out
and
speaking
to
the
community
to
get
a
broader
sense
of
of
what
the
community
would
be
looking
for
in
terms
of
representation
on
this
particular
advisory
ability
and
I
think
it
should
be
noted
that
we
have
advisory
bodies
in
the
past
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
whether
it's
around
immigrant
and
Refugee
issues.
G
We've
had
a
working
group
around
that
we've
had
working
groups
regarding
women's
issues
and
and
around
gender
equality,
and,
of
course,
we
occur
today.
We
have
advisory
bodies
with
the
Aboriginal
Affairs
Committee,
as
well
as
the
Toronto
accessibility,
Advisory
Council
and
all
of
those
all
those
advisory
bodies
have
been
largely
put
in
place
to
make
sure
that
that
we
as
government
are
delivering
good
service
and
that
service
is
going
to
be
appropriate
to
match
the
needs
of
the
the
local
community.
G
So
I
don't
need
to
say
much
more
about
the
the
importance
of
having
a
portal
and
a
formal
gathering
space
for
thought,
leaders
and
civic
leaders,
as
well
as
people
with
lived
experience
from
the
LGBT
community
to
give
us
reflections
on
policies
that
are
being
drafted
to
sort
of
give
us
a
second
look
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
right
track
before
we
go
through
the
expensive
exercise
of
delivering
service
and
to
make
sure
it's
actually
a
impactful
and
direct.
So
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
doing
that.
G
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
sort
of
next
step
for
us
and
what
we're
doing
largely
is
now
going
out
to
the
broader
community
and
just
having
a
conversation
about
what
are
the
current
needs
today
of
the
LGBT
community
is
City
Council
on
the
right
track.
We
probably
have
some
very
important
policies
that
require
LGBT
lens
of
inclusion
and
and
that's
and
that's
actually
a
very
good
thing.
It
will
mean
that
we
will
be
better
to
respond
to
the
individuals
of
the
community
and
we'll
make
sure
that
we'll
be
able
to
deliver
that
service.
G
That's
going
to
be
discriminatory.
Free
and
and
fully
inclusive
and
responsive
to
the
needs
of
the
community,
and
so
this
is
a
good
approach.
I'm
glad
that
we're
not
going
out
right
now
to
sort
of
constitute
the
body
I
like
the
idea
that
we're
actually
going
out
to
sort
of
hammer
out
what
terms
of
reference
would
be
and
and
how
the
body
of
engagement
and
the
feedback
process
should
look
like
and
how
it
should
perform
with,
with
the
the
rest
of
City
Council
and
with
the
support
of
staff.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Everyone.
A
A
Okay
well,
I.
Think
then
we're
ready
for
the
question
which
is
on
the
recommendation.
That's
listed
under
item
28
point
9,
which
is
to
request
consultations
to
be
undertaken
by
the
acting
director,
equity,
diversity
and
human
rights
and
social
development
finance
with
stakeholders
to
develop
terms
of
reference.
So
all
those
in
favor
sure
recorded
vote.
H
A
K
A
K
This
is
now
15
acres
of
land
that
I
seem
to
get
lost
in
when
I
Drive
around
through
the
spaghetti
junctions
in
the
roadways
to
something
which
we'll
be
able
to
clearly
Walker
and
Walker
or
drive
through
and
create
15
acres
of
land.
The
first
phase
is
the
three
acres
that's
in
front
of
us,
which
is
what
was
talked
about
and
the
redevelopment
of
a
new
Civic
space,
an
indoor
space,
an
outdoor
space,
a
flexible
council
chambers
that
can
be
used
for
meetings,
but
it
can
also
be
adapted.
K
So
someone
can
come
out
and
have
a
play
or
a
function
or
something
else,
and
it
really
is
unique.
It
includes
now
a
community
center,
a
childcare,
all
the
stuff
that
you
start
to
dream
of.
If
you're
actually
going
to
build
a
facility
without
being
a
City
Hall,
it's
a
civic
space
out
in
the
toe,
because
something
that
my
colleague
has
you
know
reiterated
to
me
on
many
occasions-
is
dearly
needed
out
there.
The
community
center,
for
example,
when
I
asked
the
question-
and
we
had
an
opportunity
at
Bill
Toronto
to
ask
questions.
K
Well,
who
else
lives
near
there?
What's
around
there
other
any
community
housing
buildings?
And
the
answer
was:
yes,
it's
over
a
thousand
units
out
there
and
they
don't
have
any
amenities.
So
the
opportunity
to
put
the
community
center
in
the
heart
of
this
new
development
will
provide
not
just
an
amenity
for
new
residents
but
for
old
and
I
understand
substantial
development
around
it.
So
I
think
together,
our
planning
and
our
planning
division
has
worked
in
the
West
in
very
closely
with
us.
K
So
it
really
is
all
of
our
departments
that
are
working
together
through
real
estate.
It's
our
Ville
Toronto
and
I
real
estate
that
have
done
a
great
job,
the
issue
of
affordable
housing
when
they
presented
a
brief
on
this
to
counselor
Deanna
myself
at
the
build
Toronto
office,
they
actually
included
10%,
affordable
housing,
not
20
and
I
said.
Why
are
we
going
for
something
really
spectacular
and
look
at
20%
to
show
some
leadership
in
that?
K
What
if
the
other
funding?
Isn't
there
and
you
set
a
goal,
and
you
say
I'm
going
to
do:
20%
rental,
you
go
from
a
twenty
five
million
dollar
budget
to
a
hundred
and
twenty
five
million
dollar
budget
and
all
of
a
sudden,
you
might
have
some
problems,
which
is
why
I
was
asking
the
question.
I
am
a
firm
believer
that
we
have
to
do
affordable
housing.
You
know
that
on
councils
behalf
and
with
councillor
did
Schiano
and
councillor
thompson
on
the
board
at
bill
toronto.
We
have
driven
that
agenda.
K
We
have
driven
it
to
over
700
units
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
approved
in
developments
that
are
out
there
that
are
coming
to
fruition
when
almost
nothing
was
done
before
and
in
fact,
the
12
units
that
are
down
to
ten
york
street
cost
over
five
million
dollars
for
ten
units.
Exactly
what
we
don't
want
to
do
and
I
don't
want
to
see
happen.
Another
land
so
I'm,
supportive
of
going
forward
and
looking
for
20%.
K
This
20%
is
a
number
that
we
put
in
there
as
a
goal
in
a
vision
and
I
have
no
problem
trying
to
achieve
it
as
rental,
where
it
works
and
how
it
works.
I
think
that's
great.
Maybe
we
can
do
more.
Maybe
it
could
be
30%.
It
depends
what
you
challenge
your
new
agency
to
do
so.
I,
just
caution
in
the
amended
motion.
I
think
puts
it
as
a
goal
which
I'm
supportive
of
I
just
caution
of
putting
the
handcuffs
and
making
the
statement.
K
That
council
said
it's
20%
rental
and
if
that
doesn't
work
out
in
the
funding
in
five
years
from
now
or
seven
years
from
now
or
eight
years
now,
all
of
a
sudden
you'll
say:
oh
you're,
a
loser,
you
couldn't
do
it
and
you
won't
be
able
to
do
without
the
other
levels
of
government,
helping
you
in
it
and
achieving
your
goals,
because
we
don't
have
land
to
give
away
for
that.
We're
just
trying
to
do
our
best,
so
I
think
the
amended
motion
will
be
fine.
K
I
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
my
councillor
colleague
puts
on
this
as
well
I'm,
trying
very
hard
to
achieve
the
goals
there
and
all
of
us
are
built
Toronto.
That
you've
asked
us
to
achieve
and
I
think
again
that
this
is
a
phenomenal
project
in
one
of
what
I
hope
will
be
many
new
projects
that
come
through
the
city
in
the
years
to
come.
P
P
That
participate
in
the
funding,
its
private
enterprise.
We
are
giving
away
additional
densities
to
whoever
develops
on
that
site
market
units
to,
in
fact,
help
in
the
financing
of
the
affordable
housing.
So
it
isn't
just
a
little
did
that
contribute
up
to
100,000
per
unit.
It
has
to
come
from
other
places
as
well.
Thank
you
good.
A
Point
a
counselor
George.
Oh
thank
you
any
other
speakers
on
this.
Alright
I.
Think
then,
can
we
put
up
the
motion
there.
I'm
sorry
was
there.
We
need
well
I
thought
we
were
just
having
a
friendly
I
member,
but
we
have
a
you.
You
actually
did
put
it
on
the
floor.
The
original
one
and
I
was
there
revised
one.
A
She
did
speak
and
she
moved
in
a
moment
and
then
that
we
got
it
got
him
and
it's
on
the
floor.
It's
counter
shiner!
Yes,
you
have
because
councillor
shiner
was
asking
your
questions
about
it
and
then
I
think
they
went
a
way
to
make
a
change
to
it.
So
I
think
it's
really
a
friendly
amendment
to
the
motion
that
was
on
the
floor.
So
this
is
it.
Maybe
could
you
just
draw
attention
counselor
valla,
just
so
people
will
know
what
what
changed,
including
me.
This.
N
N
A
This
consistent
with
my
general
request
to
speed
up
the
timetable
of
this
when
I
see
a
report
coming
back
in
2019,
that's
a
whole
year
at
a
bit
from
now.
Okay,
all
right,
so
people
satisfied
they've
had
a
chance
to
I
her
trust.
You
heard
councillor
D
channel
that
I
sort
of
making
a
nuisance
of
myself
saying
five,
the
counselor
Shannon
seven
to
eight
years.
A
It's
a
lifetime
away
all
right
ready
for
the
question
on
the
motion,
then,
as
as
amended
and
so
I'll
call
the
question
on
the
motion,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie
and
on
the
item
as
amended
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie.
Thank
you.
So
that
takes
care
of
28:12
and
brings
us
to
28:13,
which
is
the
emergency.
A
Q
Will
be
three
minutes
because
I
thought
that's
all
I
had
all
the
better
good
afternoon,
Mara
Tory
executive
committee.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
present
to
you
today.
My
name
is
Sean
Patrick
stencil
I'm,
a
senior
energy
analyst
with
Greenpeace,
Canada
and
I'm
here
today
to
ask
you
to
join
other
municipalities
in
calling
on
the
province
to
strengthen
nuclear
emergency
response
plans.
Q
Toronto,
however,
was
unable
to
do
this
due
to
the
timing
of
the
consultative
council
tation
just
before
the
summer
break.
This
was
unfortunate
because
executive
committee
had
expressed
an
interest
in
contributing
to
this
update
of
Ontario's
off-site
nuclear
emergency
plans
in
April
2016,
you
received
a
staff
report
on
the
status
of
nuclear
emergency
planning
in
Toronto.
In
this
report,
staff
made
two
notable
observations.
First,
they
couldn't
find
evidence
to
justify
limiting
the
delivery
of
potassium
iodine
pills
to
the
current
10
kilometer
area.
Q
This
has
been
an
area
of
concern
dating
back
to
2015,
and
second
staff
observed
the
provinces.
Current
nuclear
emergency
response
plans.
Don't
contemplate
accidents
similar
in
scale
to
Fukushima.
This
leaves
us
vulnerable
in
the
event
of
such
an
accident.
I
present
it
to
you
at
the
time.
In
2016
and
I
highlighted
some
Freedom
of
Information
documents
I
had
received.
That
indicated,
the
province
may
create
a
new
planning
zone
that
could
impact
on
City
Planning.
Q
In
response,
you
passed,
you
passed
a
motion
requesting
a
report
from
city
staff
on
the
city's
draft
submission
to
the
provincial
governments
console
station.
This
would
have
provided
you
an
opportunity
to
be
apprised
of
the
provinces
proposals
and
inform
the
city's
recommendations
to
the
Ministry
of
Community
Safety.
Q
It
is
thus
urgent
for
executive
committee
to
weigh
in
on
this
issue.
As
you
know,
Executive
Committee
has
a
special
role
as
guardians
of
public
safety
in
Toronto.
In
recent
years,
you
have
laudably
advocated
for
strength
and
emergency
response
in
relation
to
pipelines,
rail
safety
and
erratic
weather
on
behalf
of
Canadians.
It's
time
for
you
to
do
the
same
in
regard
to
nuclear
emergencies.
Q
Methey
note
that
happened
this
summer
is
Switzerland
announced
that
it
would
upgrade
its
nuclear
emergency
response
plans
to
address
a
level
7
accident
on
the
international
nuclear
Event
Scale.
This
is
the
highest
level
on
the
international
atomic
agency.
X'
rating
system,
notably
Switzerland,
did
this.
After
intentionally
seeking
advice
of
impacted
communities.
This
is
what
hasn't
happened
here
in
Toronto
in
Ontario.
This
is
why
I'm
urging
you
today
to
support
the
call
made
by
other
municipalities
for
world-class
public
safety.
J
Q
Are
yeah
the
different
municipalities,
I
mentioned
passed,
motions
that
were
actually
able
to
be
submitted
during
this
public
consultation?
You
were
deprived
of
that
opportunity,
but
the
government
has
we've
been
told
that
cabinet
will
make
a
decision
before
the
end
of
year.
So
the
way
decision-making
works
right
now
is
the
Minister
staff
will
be
developing
the
proposals
that
go
to
cabinet
and
if
the,
if
the
city
now
were
to
state
its
position
and
formally
communicate
it,
it
would
still
have
an
impact.
So
it's
still
very
much
worth
doing.
Q
There
are
10
reactors
in
the
GTA,
so
I
think
it's
very
important
that
Toronto
have
a
position
and
speak
out
on
this
issue,
and
I
would
note
that
Durham
Region
took
such
a
pointed
such
a
point
and
the
chair
at
the
time
Roger
Anderson
said
in
the
summer.
It
would
be
very
helpful
if
Toronto
took
a
position
similar
to
theirs.
J
E
You
through
you
I
you
Mara
Tory.
You
made
a
reference
to
Switzerland
in
the
level
of
preparedness
they
have
in
Switzerland.
How
does
that
prepare
to
what
the
like,
for
example,
Pickering,
would
be
responsible
for
we're
in
comparison?
What
Pickering
we
have
the
same
event
happened
in
Pickering.
Is
there
a
difference
in
what
we
would
see
compared
to
Switzerland
the.
Q
Way
I
would
the
comparison
I
would
make
is
to
our
what
our
current
plans
in
Ontario
prepare
for
so
the
the
basis
for
Ontario's
off-site
nucular
emergency
plans
was
set
before
Chernobyl
and
they
prepare
for
a
scale
of
radioactive
release
which
is
equivalent
to
an
innocent
of
Innes
5
accident.
So
that's
a
Three
Mile
Island
accident,
so
that
was
a
major
accident,
but
it
didn't
release
a
lot
of
radioactivity.
The
higher
levels
in
a
6
in
a
7
release,
more
radioactivity
and
thus
require
more
emergency
response
measures
off-site.
Q
So
what
would
change
if
we
were
to
prepare
for
a
similar
type
of
accident
is
that
our
planning
measures
would
also
be
expanded
of
geographically
to
be
better
prepared
for
that.
The
major
issue,
again
is
the
amount
of
radioactivity
is
released
for
your
question
for,
regarding
Pickering,
all
of
our
plants
have
accident
scenarios
that
could
leave
to
lead
to
an
in
a
seven
accident,
but
unfortunately,
right
now
the
policy
is
to
not
prepare
for
these
worst-case
accidents
and
that's
really
where
it's
important.
E
Q
Risk
studies
have
pathways
that
lead
to
those
scale
of
accidents
and
I
always
worry
whenever
you
have
an
industry
that
says
it
won't
happen
here
or
it
can't
happen
here.
The
Japanese
said
the
similar
things
before
Fukushima
and
the
important
thing
to
remember
with
all
accidents
is
the
technology
may
differ,
but
the
main
causes
have
always
been
human,
and
that
can
happen
anywhere
in
the
world
and
we
need
to
take
that
into
account.
So
we
shouldn't
let
the
differences
in
technology
blind
us
and
pretend
that
it
can't
happen
here
and.
E
Then,
in
terms
of
potassium
iodide
pills,
so
my
word,
the
eastern
boundary
of
my
award
to
Morningside
Avenue
and
the
pills
were
distributed,
I
understand
from
Pickering
and
they
stopped
at
Morningside
Avenue.
There's
none
distributed
last
of
Morningside
Avenue
like
Morningside
Avenue
was
the
magic
boundary
that
the
contamination
was
just
gonna
stop
and
my
understanding
that
that's
even
Morningside
avenues
less
than
than
10
kilometers
from
Pickering.
So
any.
If
there
was
an
accident
it
would,
you
would
expect
it
would
go
beyond
Morningside
Avenue.
Yes,.
Q
And
yes,
in
the
case
of
a
major
accident
you'll,
you
will
expect
to
see
releases
of
iodine
because
it's
a
gas
go
well
past
that
ten
kilometer
zone
I
reference.
In
my
my
submission
there
was
modeling
done
by
Health
Canada
earlier
this
year
that
showed
especially
for
vulnerable
community
in
youth
that
are
more
vulnerable
to
radiation.
You
would
need
those
pills
past
the
ten
the
ten
kilometers
I
mentioned
Switzerland
when
they
modeled
a
large
accident.
They
said
we
need
to
do
this
within
50
kilometers,
and
here
I
think
this
is
where
Durham
Region
would
appreciate.
Q
Support
from
the
city
is
when
they
passed
their
motions
this
summer.
One
of
them
was
a
request
to
the
province
to
expand
ki
delivery
beyond
the
ten
kilometer
zone,
and
that
was
to
take
in
account
international
practices,
science
and
as
well
as
the
fact
that
the
GTA
is
very
densely
populated
and
to
distribute
those
pills
in
the
event
of
an
emergency
will
be
very
difficult.
So
it's
better
to
distribute
them
in
a
white
and
deliver
them
on
a
wider
basis
ahead
of
time.
Q
A
That
was
your
final
question:
Thank
You,
California
sley.
Are
there
any
other
questions
of
mr.
stencil?
Okay?
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
help
and
for
being
here
today.
Next
we
had
Kerry
blaze
or
could
be
glazed,
I'm,
sorry,
counsel,
Canadian,
environmental
Association,
miss
miss
place
here
or
mr.
Vyse.
This
place
I
got.
Is
it
blaze
or
blaze?
Please.
H
H
Good
afternoon,
mayor,
Tori
and
councilmembers,
and
my
name
is
Cary
blaze
and
I
am
counsel
with
the
Canadian
Environmental
Law
Association
I'm
here
today,
both
as
a
resident
of
Toronto
and
as
a
public
interest
lawyer,
who
is
deeply
concerned
about
the
health
of
our
city,
its
citizens
and
our
lake
in
the
event
of
a
nuclear
emergency
at
Ontario's
nearby
nuclear
power
plants.
Today
we
have
the
opportunity
for
the
City
of
Toronto
to
join
other
municipalities
and
pass
a
motion
calling
for
Ontario
to
have
a
best-in-class
nuclear
emergency
response
plan.
H
There
are
two
nuclear
power
stations
in
the
GTA
and
relative
frequency,
with
which
the
events
cascade
into
a
Fukushima
or
Chernobyl
type
accident
is
large
enough
that
the
risk
to
society
is
still
very
high
to
effectively
reduce
this
risk.
The
possibility
of
Chernobyl
or
Fukushima
sized
events
needs
to
be
better
anticipated
and
more
effectively
managed.
H
Now
the
City
of
Toronto
has
the
opportunity
to
respond
and
pass
a
motion
calling
for
the
province
of
Ontario
to
provide
Torontonians
with
world-class
public
safety.
What
does
this
require?
First,
this
means
upgrading
our
provincial
nuclear
response
plan,
so
it
can
respond
to
the
highest
level
of
accident
on
the
international
nuclear
Event
Scale.
Secondly,
this
means
expanding
the
pre
distribution
of
potassium
iodide
pills
beyond
the
current
10
kilometer
primary
zone
to
a
range
of
50
kilometers
from
the
reactors.
H
These
requests
are
certainly
not
beyond
the
realm
of
possibility,
as
this
best
practice
already
exists
in
Switzerland.
Arguably,
it's
now
time
for
Toronto
to
the
quat
to
require
the
same
for
its
residents
so
from
here.
The
City
of
Toronto
must
study,
leave
financial
impacts
of
this
expanded
response
tone
and
ensure
the
province
makes
sustainable
funding
available
for
all
municipalities
to
oversee
this
expanded
emergency
plan.
And,
crucially,
this
message
has
to
be
communicated.
These
expectations
recommendations
be
communicated
to
the
Ministry
of
Community,
Services
and
consumer
safety.
Our
emergency
response
and
level
preparedness
must
change.
H
A
A
G
The
main
recommendation
Cape
would
like
to
make
to
the
City
of
Toronto
is
that
you
insist
that
the
provincial
nuclear
emergency
response
plan
should
have
as
a
planning
basis
an
accident
the
same
severity
as
what
occurred
in
Japan
in
presently.
The
planning
basis
is
for
an
accident
several
tears.
Less
severe
residents
of
the
GTA
deserve
protective
measures
that
are
world
class
and
exceed
international
best
practices,
which
the
present
plan
does
not
and
I
say,
exceeds
because
the
situation
in
Ontario
is
unique.
G
In
the
world,
in
terms
of
our
reactors,
unlike
almost
anywhere
else
in
the
world
in
Ontario,
we
have
our
reactors
in
the
most
densely
populated
region
of
the
country
and
the
in
the
event
of
a
civil
severe
nuclear
accident.
Over
6
million
people
in
the
GTA
and
Beyond
would
be
at
risk
with
such
a
large
population.
Even
a
slight
increase
in
radiation
exposure
would
manifest
in
many
new
cancers
and
other
radiation
related
illnesses.
G
Also,
unlike
almost
anywhere
in
the
world,
we
have
built
our
reactors
on
the
largest
body
of
fresh
water
in
the
world,
the
Great
Lakes,
which
is
a
source
of
drinking
water
for
14
million
people.
The
present
nuclear
emergency
response
plan
does
not
address
the
very
real
possibility
of
radioactive
contamination
of
the
Great
Lakes,
particularly
Lake
Ontario,
which
is
a
serious
omission.
Also
Ontario's
reactors
are
all
old,
which
makes
them
prone
to
dysfunction
and
due
to
their
design
they're.
Also
at
more
risk
of
serious
accident.
G
Cape
also
recommends
that
the
City
of
Toronto
be
sure
that
the
health
care
community
is
prepared
for
a
severe
nuclear
accident.
Host
hospitals
in
the
GTA
need
to
be
ready
to
accept
at
short
notice,
evacuated
patients
from
hospitals
and
nursing
homes
near
the
Pickering
and
Darlington
nuclear
stations.
G
Makeshift
health
centers
need
to
be
ready
to
deal
with
medical
emergencies
and
ongoing
medical
treatment
of
patients
with
chronic
conditions,
as
well
as
dealing
with
the
psychological
trauma
residents
will
be
experiencing.
During
such
an
emergency
situation,
the
emergency
rooms
staff
in
the
GTA
hospitals
need
to
be
doing
regular,
drills
to
be
prepared
to
accept
to
mass
casualties,
including
patients
with
acute
radiation
illness,
and
to
be
knowledgeable
about
radiation
decontamination
methods.
G
The
City
of
Toronto
should
learn
lessons
from
the
experience
of
Fukushima,
where
the
health
care
community
was
not
prepared
for
such
a
severe
accident
and
people
died
as
a
result.
This
is
an
issue
of
Public
Safety
and
public
health.
The
people
of
the
GTA
deserve
the
best
protective
measures
possible
in
the
event
of
a
severe
Fukushima
level
nuclear
accident.
Thank
you.
A
P
You
we're
tori
and
members
executive
committee
on
behalf
of
the
registered
nurse
association
ontario.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
present
our
views
on
nuclear
emergency
planning.
We
urge
you
to
call
on
the
problems
to
take
a
much
more
precautionary
approach
to
this
planning
than
it
has.
Nurses
have
a
very
strong
interest
in
nuclear
emergency
planning,
as
much
of
the
the
emergency
health
service
that
would
ensue
would
actually
fall
on
them.
P
They
want
to
know
that
nurses
and
the
system
are
ready
for
a
nuclear
emergency,
there's
nothing
worse
for
health
professionals
to
be
helpless,
witnesses
to
avoidable
and
suffering
and
death.
That's
exactly
what
happened
during
Japan's
2011
Fukushima
disaster,
at
least
a
thousand
deaths
were
associated
with
the
evacuation,
because
the
and
many
of
those
could
have
been
avoided.
The
had
the
evacuations
been
prepared
done
in
or
plan
way.
The
Japanese
emergency
system
wasn't
ready
for
that
disaster,
and
we
really
don't
want
to
have
that
mistake
repeated
in
in
Ontario
as
dr.
P
Vakeel
noted,
there's
many
functions
that
must
be
planned
for,
and
that
includes
for
nurses
as
well
radiation
exposure.
Screening
triage
you
can't
decontamination
treatment
for
radiation
treatment
for
exacerbation
of
existing
medical
conditions,
assistance
with
evacuation
and
the
really
big
one
attending
to
the
health
and
psychological
needs
of
evacuees,
and
that
could
be
for
a
very
long
time
depending
upon
the
severity
of
any
accident.
Again,
as
dr.
Patil
pointed
out,
the
reason
to
take
nuclear
response
planning
serious
seriously
is
that
Ontario's
nuclear
plants
are
very
close
to
larger
than
centers.
P
It's
a
bit
untypical
of
nuclear
plants
globally
and
they're
right
on
the
biggest
source
of
drinking
water.
The
Great
Lakes
Pickering
plant
is
just
five
kilometers
east
of
Toronto
and
Darlington
is
30.
Kilometers
east,
as
of
2006
a
20-kilometer
evacuation
around
the
Pickering
plant
would
affect
1.3
million
people,
which
is
about
8
times
as
many
people's
were
evacuated
in
Fukushima
due
to
the
radiation.
P
A
D
A
D
A
R
Okay,
all
right,
my
name
is
Andre
and
action.
I'm
a
resident
here
in
Toronto,
more
specifically,
I
live
at
fifteen
Guildwood
Parkway
I
mean
mr.
Ansley's
word
and
so
I'm
just
here
on
behalf
of
myself,
I
wanted
to
first
put
some
put
the
things
into
context
here.
The
emergency
response
planning
I'm,
also
European
Union
citizens,
so
I
was
gonna
mention
the
things
about
Switzerland,
but
the
gentleman
from
Greenpeace
here
already
talked
about
them.
R
R
So
we
have
to
keep
that
in
mind
because
our
nuclear
power
plants
are
being
refurbished
and
the
dialing
is
that
the
government
provincial
government,
as
well
as
the
federal
government,
would
like
these
plans
to
keep
on
going
for
many
decades
to
come.
So,
in
my
opinion
the
least
we
can
do
is
have
like
a
very
secure
and
strict
response
planning
emergency
response
planning.
R
As
of
now
from
my
understanding,
the
city
has
no
plan
for
an
accident
comparable
to
the
Fukushima
accident,
there's
no
planning
and
resourcing
for
a
case
where
there
are
big,
uncontrolled
emissions
to
the
atmosphere,
so
Toronto's
nuclear
emergency
response
plan,
which
I
have
here
and
I've
actually
taken
the
time
to
go
through
it,
I
hope
every
all
the
councillors
went
through
it
too.
It's
about
sixty
pages.
R
This,
this
planning
that
has
been
made
is
based
on
the
assumption
that
plant
operators
in
case
of
an
emergency
in
case
of
a
meltdown-
you
know,
like
the
size
of
Chernobyl
or
the
size
of
Fukushima
plant
operators,
would
be
able
to
contain
and
control
radioactive
releases.
So
this
this,
in
my
opinion,
is
the
wrong
way
to
go
about
it
because
radioactive
releases
in
a
in
a
serious,
great
big
accident
or
meltdown,
we
they
would
not
be
able
to
control
the
releases
over
the
radioactive
material.
R
Another
major
issue
with
with
the
response
planning
I
think,
is
the
drinking
water
from
Lake
Ontario
they're
about
nine
million
people
Canadians
and
on
the
American
side,
which
their
primary
source
for
drinking
water
is
Lake
Ontario,
and
there
is
absolutely
no
credible
plan
for
the
coming
for
the
contamination
of
Lake
Ontario.
So
with
that
left
aside,
we're
putting
in
jeopardy
like
millions
of
people
who
rely
on
Lake
Ontario
for
their
drinking
water,
I
just
want
to
read
a
quick
quote
from
the
former
Japanese
Prime
Minister
mr.
R
Naruto
Khan,
who
was
the
Prime
Minister
during
the
accident
at
Fukushima.
He
said
in
an
interview
with
the
British
newspaper
The
Telegraph,
that
from
March
11th,
when
the
incident
happened
until
the
15th,
the
effects
of
radioactive
contamination
were
expanding
geographically.
So
for
four
days
right
after
Fukushima
radiation
kept
moving
expanding
outwards,
so
there
was
no
control,
they
couldn't
control
the
Leafs
of
radiation.
So
this
is.
This
is
the
worry
that
if
we
just
put
a
10,
kilometer
or
20
kilometer
radius
for
a
primary
primary
response
action,
that's
not
going
to
be
enough.
R
Fuzzy
I
mean
this
could
depend
simply
on
how
strong
the
wind
is
that
day
and
here
in
southern
Ontario.
We
have
pretty
strong
winds
so
that
that
that
primary
response
area
in
my
opinion,
should
be
increased.
At
least
like
the
Europeans
have
it.
You
know:
50
kilometers,
100
kilometers,
because
I
am
within
the
tent,
like
I,
where
I
live,
I
am
within
the
10
kilometer
radius
from
the
Pickering
power
plant,
I've
actually
done.
R
My
due
diligence
and
I
ordered
the
ki
pills,
so
I
have
them
at
home,
but
talking
to
my
neighbors,
people
are
clueless
about
and
I'm
being
perfectly
honest,
like
people
have
no
idea
about
any
of
the
emergency
response
plan
that's
put
in
place
or
about
the
iodine
pills
that
are
available
and
the
I
mean.
To
be
honest,
some
people
don't
even
know
that
there
are
nuclear
power
plants
around
which
is
very
worrisome.
This
brings
me
to
the
public
awareness
campaign.
R
R
Protecting
you
and
your
family
here
in
the
second
last
paragraph
they
say,
residents
near
nuclear
facilities
are
responsible
for
being
informed
and
knowing
what
to
do
in
the
unlikely
event
of
an
emergency,
so
they're
just
passing
on
the
buck
to
the
citizens,
who
are
basically
clueless.
So
if
we
can
work
on
this,
that
would
be
great.
Thank.
A
A
Could
I
just
ask
one
before
we
move
off
that
section
which
is
I
heard
referenced
earlier
on,
and
it
was
all
very
confusing
because
it
was
stuff
that
I
know
we
dealt
with
it.
Maybe
a
couple
of
years
ago
there
was
a
report
reference
that
we
sort
of
missed
the
consultation
window
on
because
of
our
perhaps
our
summer
or
whatever
and
I
just
wondered
whether
that
report
it
sounded
like
it
had
never
been
sort
of
completed
in
Sandton
or
it
had
been
completed,
but
not
sent
because
the
consultation
period
was
over
and
I.
A
H
Through
you,
mr.
mayor,
the
online
consultation
report
that
you're
referring
to
there
was
a
very
short
deadline
and
the
office
of
emergency
management
was
able
to
submit
technical
comments
and
they
are
the
ones
that
are
summarized
in
our
report
here
and
there's
quite
a
few
areas
that
we
continue
to
have
ongoing
conversation
with
the
ministry
about
the
deficiencies
from
our
perspective.
So,
yes,
there.
There
is
an
opportunity
to
continue
to
dialogue,
so
we
did
comment
in
a
very
short
order,
but
unfortunately
we
could
not
get
to
executive
committee
in
the
3-day
timeline.
Just.
A
A
D
H
D
H
There
is
a
motion
through
mr.
mail
that
there's
that
this
also
is
reporting
to
the
emotion
from
instant
ice
storm
motion
on
reporting
back
on
changes
to
the
emergency
management
program,
and
we
are
required
to
report
on
changes
to
the
emergency
plan.
So
we
did
combine
that
those
two
report
backs
together.
H
D
H
I
think
this
is
your
correction,
that
if
this
is
a
risk,
risk
management,
risk
assessment
business
and
we
do
tend
to
focus
our
efforts
on
the
console
hazards
and
risks
that
manifests
the
most.
So
that's
true
and
that's
part-
and
this
is
part
of
what
we
do
for
our
all-
of
the
emergency
planning.
Okay,.
A
E
Thank
You,
Mara,
Tori,
so
I
have
a
motion,
then
I
I
believe
it's
been
advanced
circulated
so
that
everybody
can
see
it
and
I'm
gonna
and
just
in
kind
of
putting
something
around
this.
So
everybody
understands
it
a
little
more
so
there's
two
big
nuclear
power
plants
on
the
East
End
of
Toronto
there's
one
in
Pickering,
one
in
Darlington
they've,
been
in
operation
respectively
for
forty
four
and
I
believe
fifty
years
each
and
as
councillor
Pasternak
said,
we
have
an
emergency
plan
before
us
that
deals
with
a
lot
of
different
issues.
The
ice
storm
blackouts.
E
If
something
goes
wrong
at
the
picker
and
Pickering
plant,
for
example,
which
is
the
closest
one
of
the
two
to
Toronto,
we
only
need
something
to
go
wrong
once
and
if
something's
gonna
go
wrong
once
we
should
be
better
prepared
for
it,
as
is
heard
from
a
number
of
the
DEP
units.
The
plan
that's
been
in
place,
certainly
doesn't
meet
international
specifications
or
standards.
E
I
believe
Switzerland
was
one
of
the
examples
in
the
second
part,
where
I'm
asking
for
a
wider
distribution
of
potassium
iodide
pills,
so
I
live
in
Kings
robe
Morningside,
which
is
roughly
15
kilometers
from
the
nuclear
power
plant.
The
pills
were
delivered
to
within
an
area
of
ten
kilometers,
a
lot
of
my
neighbors
myself
included
that
got
them.
There
isn't
a
lot
of
warning
or
explanation
about
what
the
pills
are
based
on
the
work
that
I've
done
in
the
research
and
what
we've
been
doing
here.
E
I
said
to
my
wife:
we
got
to
make
sure
that
these
pills
go
in
our
in
our
first-aid
box,
so
we
know
there's
they're
readily
available.
If
there
is
an
issue
at
the
Pickering
power
plant,
Morningside
Avenue,
which
separates
my
ward
from
Ward
44,
the
distribution
boundary
western
western
boundary
is
a
Morningside
Avenue.
It
just
stopped
boom
there,
as
I
said
in
my
questioning,
so
one
of
the
deputies
as
if
any
fallout
from
the
nuclear
power
plant.
If
there
is
an
accident
miraculously
or
just
stops
at
Morningside
Avenue,
so
what
I'm
asking
is.
E
Basically,
this
is
the
same
motion
that
was
put
forward
by
the
chair
of
the
regional
Regional
Municipality
of
Durham,
Roger,
Anderson
and
so
I'm,
putting
it
forward
here
in
Toronto,
because
I
think
when
we
look
at
the
boundaries
of
what's
in
place
now
for
the
provincial
nuclear
emergency
response
plan,
I
think
they
need
to
be
greatly
expanded
and
one
of
the
examples
at
all
point
to
is
the
last
time
this
executive
committee
was
looking
at
this.
You
can
order
potassium
iodine
pills
through
a
website
called
prepared.
E
E
There
was
eleven
thousand
orders
for
potassium
iodide
pills
through
that
website,
as
people
became
more
aware
of
what
the
issues
are
around
emergency
planning
for
some
type
of
nuclear
issue,
if
it
ever
occurs
at
the
Pickering
power
plant,
so
I'm
simply
putting
these
this
motion
forward
in
conjunction
with,
what's
being
done
in
the
municipalities
of
Durham
and
I'd,
ask
for
everybody's
support.
Thank
you.
J
J
So
if
Durham
can
do,
what
Toronto
can
do
it
and
I
would
just
say
that
I'm
my
area,
the
beautiful
beach,
is
actually
outside
of
the
catchment
area
for
the
Pils.
So
it's
very
concerning
and
concerning
why
we
we
haven't
closed
these
nuclear
plans
at
all,
but
that's
another
issue,
so
I
would
just
urge
you
to
support
this.
We
did
have
back
I
can't
remember
how
what
if
it
was
a
year
ago
executive,
we
had
George,
Smitherman
and
others
come
in
and
talk
to
us
earnestly
about
this
issue.
A
A
Trusting
the
council
of
Durham
I
guess
we're
having,
because
there
are
all
kinds
of
acronyms
and
so
forth
here
that
I,
don't
know
about
and
I
haven't
read
the
different
things
were
commenting
on
in
particular,
but
I
will
just
say
and
I
was
only
prompted
to
say
it
because
of
the
comments
a
moment
ago
from
councillor
McMahon
that
I
do
not
support
the
closure
of
nuclear
power
plants
in
Ontario.
They
have
proven
to
be
safe,
reliable,
relatively
green
compared
to
other
sources
of
power
we
had
and
even
still
continue
to
have.
A
There
are
some
issues
with
nuclear
power,
but
I
think
they
nuclear
plants
that
we
have
served
us
very
well
I,
think
those
are
being
refurbished,
which
I
also
support
and
I
think
if
we
were
really
looking
ahead
into
the
future
beyond
the
next
five
years.
So
we'd
probably
be
you
know,
building
maybe
at
least
one
more
but
we're
refurbishing.
Other
plants
to
keep
them
active
for
a
period
of
time
and
I
just
think
it's
you
know.
People
who
want
to
close
these
things
down.
A
Don't
ever
have
answers
to
the
questions
as
to
what
we're
gonna
do
to
get
the
power
that
we
need,
and
it's
not
peak
power,
its
day-to-day
power.
That
is
there
every
single
day
that
is
used
every
single
day
and
I
think
it
becomes
a
convenient
political
kind
of
argument
and
I
know
there
are
people
who
are
against
it
in
good
faith,
I,
don't
question
their
good
faith,
but
I
just
think.
It's
unrealistic
to
suggest
we
close
these
down
so
by
voting
for
this
I
think
what
I
do
vote
for
I.
A
Think
as
one
here
is
the
notion
that
people
should
be
better
informed
and
I
think
they
certainly
should
be
because
we
know
from
past
experiences
elsewhere
in
the
world.
Fortunately,
there
are
risks,
there's
risks
with
everything,
but
there
are
risks
with
this
and
if
they're
there
significant
risks
and
the
context
of
the
consequence,
and
so
that
is
why
I
think
for
us
to
register
our
views,
which
is
really
were
do
here
with
the
provincial
government
to
say
you
can
do
better
in
terms
of
informing
people
and
having
more
thorough
plans,
I'm
supportive
of
but
I.
A
Just
you
provoked
me
into
speaking
when
you
made
that
offhand
passing
comment
about
closing
nuclear
plants,
which
I
don't
think
is
something
that
we're
saying
here.
We're
just
saying:
do
a
better
job
have
a
better
plan,
make
a
public
more
aware
and
and
I
support
that
all
right?
That's
all
I
have
to
say
anybody
else
last
chance
before
we
then
look
at
two
Californians.
These
motion
first
and
I'll
call
the
question
on
the
motion
Californians.
These
motion
to
amend
the
item.
A
You
very
much
then,
the
crushed
on
my
last
one
item:
don't
become
complacent:
County
Council,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Kerry.
Thank
you
that
deals
with
item
28,
point
13
and
next
I.
Believe
then
is
this.
Is
a
16
item
28
point
16
the
legacy
restoration
project
update
toronto
council
fire
native
cultural
center,
and
there
is
a
definite
to
be
heard
from
from
the
toronto
council
fire
that
looks
like
more
than
one
maybe
and
it's
miss
crystianna's
at
the
proper
presentation
is
Chris
John.
A
I
I
wish
each
one
of
you
well
and,
and
all
those
things
around
you
and
to
tell
you
that
the
work
that
you
are
doing
is
good
and
that
we
all
care
may
be
the
intent
is
as
et
you
would
have
received
as
a
small
booklet,
along
with
a
little
planning
tool.
We
presented
this
particular
project
to
a
number
of
the
the
counselors
we've
tried
to
make
appointments
for
each
one
of
you
as
as
well
and
the
intent
of
this
legacy.
I
What
we
were
looking
is
to
have
a
space
the
space
and
to
beautify
or
Southwest
the
southwest
corner
of
Nathan
Phillips
Square,
which
is
just
east
of
the
Law
Society.
In
just
south
of
your
Japanese
garden,
and
so
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
to
ensure
that
you
can
imagine
what
this
this
teaching,
learning
and
healing
garden
would
look
like,
and
so
what
we
have
done
is
we
have
been
working
with
the
natural
indigenous
plants.
I
You
know
the
turtle
itself
in
terms
of
what
it
represents
wanted
to
have
a
fire,
the
water
and
all
those
symbolic
issues
will
be
incorporating
those
the
the
the
work
of
our
young
people.
Our
this
has
already
been
supported
by
the
residential
school
survivors,
daunting
within
the
in
Toronto,
but
also
from
this
region.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
is
the
cost
that
we've
projected
is
to
be
four
million
dollars
of
that
four
million
dollars.
I
We
have
secured
three
three
and
a
half
one
point
five
of
that
is
from
is
from
the
province,
specifically
the
ministry
of
indigenous
relations
and
reconciliation.
We
have
other
ministries
like
mag
that
we're
working
with
that
working
to
top
up.
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
from
the
federal
level
another
one
point
five
and
that
would
be
come
from
the
indigenous
northern
affairs,
along
with
the
Health
Canada
and
hopefully,
hopefully,
we're
still
working
with
the
Canadian
Heritage.
In
addition
to
that,
we
within
you'll
see
within
the
turtle.
I
Those
are
the
number
of
partners
and
initiatives
that
we
get
planned.
This
is
not
just
an
issue
initiative
for
Toronto
council
fire,
because
what
we're
looking
at,
who
our
other
affiliates
and
partners
and
the
partners
come
from
whether
it's,
whether
it's
just
survivors
any
be
any
the
reconciliation
groups
that
we've
worked
together
with
the
faith
groups
since
1994,
and
we
have
since
been
able
to
demonstrate
that
we
were
able
to
host
a
regional
gathering
in
2012
and
hosted
it
at
the
certain
center.
I
So
you'll
see
around
the
the
the
table
of
the
particular
turtle
itself
that
our
partnerships
are
partnerships
and
the
initiatives
that
we
have
with
organizations
are
plenty
and
we
we
feel
that
it's
really
critical,
that
we're
it's
inclusive
and
non,
and
not
that
it's
exclusive.
Our
intent,
is
to
to
do
the
celebration
and
have
an
installation
of
the
turtle.
But
took
at
the
celebration
on
October
the
9th
10th
11th
of
20
year
2018
and
with
with
a
population
and
attendance
of
a
hundred
thousand
people.
I
Now
a
hundred
thousand
is
not
is
not
just
our
people,
but
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
to
ensure
that
we
involve
other
societies,
because
you
know
Toronto
is
the
largest
multicultural
center
in
in
this
country
and
I.
Think
it's
really
fitting
that
we
ensure
that
these
these
newcomers
are
welcoming
in
a
really
positive
way.
Over
the
over
the
three
days,
a.
A
E
J
I
I,
as
I
mentioned,
I
have
one
point:
five
that
we
have
received
and
committed
for
from
the
province.
That's
specifically
from
one
one
of
one
of
the
ministries
that
the
Ministry
of
it
indigenous
relations
and
Reconciliation,
we're
also
working
with
Meg
the
the
justice
indigenous
unit
itself
to
along
with
on
a
federal
level.
We
have
one
point
five
and
that
split
between
indigenous
northern
Affairs,
Health
Canada
and
we're
right
now
we're
working
with
the
the
Heritage
Canada.
In
addition
to
that,
there's
other
there's
other
partnerships
that
we
have
with
the
corporations
another
another.
A
Questions
I
had
some
manure,
no
nobody
else,
just
following
along
really
councillor
McMahon
and
councillor
rains
these
questions
just
on
these
commitments,
because
it's
very
gratifying
to
hear,
because
you
know
when
you're
assessing
the
feasibility.
One
of
the
things
you
want
to
know
is,
if
you
sort
of
come
to
the
conclusion,
it's
all
a
terrific
use
of
that
space
and
consistent
with
what
we
are
to
be
doing
with
regard
to
truth
and
reconciliation
that
the
money
is
gonna,
be
there
to
do.
This
are
those
kind
of
pretty
hard
written
and
I'm.
A
Not
thinking
about
you,
I'm
thinking
about
the
government's,
because
governments
excluding,
of
course
this
one
are
not
sometimes
find
themselves
giving
people
a
positive
reassurances
about
money
and
then,
when
it
comes
time
to
actually
write
the
check
it's
in
the
budget
three
years
from
now-
or
you
know
some
other
thing
like
that
is
it?
Is
it
something
where
you.
I
Have
a
written,
the
commitment
that
we
have
is
very
specific
to
this
project
and
I
believe
what
what
the
two
levels
of
government
are
actually
committing
to
the
the
action
82
itself
in
terms
of
the
baby,
the
visibility
in
on
a
federal
level.
What
that
looks
to
is
that
bringing
in
the
residential
school
survivors
and
themselves
and
there's
still
want
to
read
those
and
that
are
still
alive
in
this
region.
Oh
that's.
A
I
A
A
Take
that
as
a
comment
as
opposed
to
a
question,
because
so
that
you're
really
saying
you
would
like
to
hear
from
us
that
we
would
contribute
something
to
this
and
I
guess.
I'll.
Just
say
this
to
you,
because
we
don't
normally
have
questions
going
the
other
way,
but
I
will
say
that
I
think
it
is
fair
within
the
context
of
first
receiving
this
feasibility
report
about
using
that
site
for
this
project,
albeit
with
the
funding
that
you
have
secured,
and
congratulations.
That
obviously
could
then
lead
to
a
discussion
with
us.
A
I
A
G
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
mr.
mayor,
I
would
just
want
to
lend
my
my
support
to
this
initiative.
I
think
it's
number
one
with
with
thanks
that
I'd
like
to
just
acknowledge
the
the
deputies
who
have
come
forward
with
this
very
innovative
interpretation.
It's
also
a
wonderful
expression
of
reconciliation.
I
think
that
the
City
of
Toronto
would
be
should
be
encouraged
to
sort
of
take
a
step
forward
as
they,
as
our
friends
have
taken
a
step
forward
to
us.
G
For
that.
In
the
absence
of
that
intervention
and
that
particular
application
of
use,
we
are
now
sort
of
left
without
permanent
programming.
So
this
would
be
I
think
a
very
thoughtful
way
for
us
to
approach
indigenous
placemaking
to
work
with
the
community
and
this
this
particular
project
just
layers
on
so
many
significant
components
to
what
we
stand
for
as
a
city.
So
I'm
really
supportive
as
the
local
ward
councillor.
G
This
would
just
be
a
wonderful
anchor
on
the
on
the
opposing
side,
which
would
really
complement
the
city's
gesture
to
reconciliation
and,
of
course,
there'll
be
many
more.
But
I
think
this
will
be
a
very
high-profile
one
and
a
very
necessary
one.
And
given
the
level
of
support
within
the
indigenous
community
for
this
project,
I
think
we
should
do
everything
we
can.
You
know
mr.
mayor
and
members
to
just
try
to
you
know,
bring
all
the
resources
and
the
talent
of
the
city
together
to
make
this
a
very
big
success
story.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
A
E
You
Mara
Tori
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
the
the
report
as
well.
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
partnership
and
I
want
to
also
begin
by
singing
to
the
deputy
inspector
coming
in
today
when
you
look
at
what
we
have
before
us
with
the
Stata
statue
in
a
very
prominent
place
in
a
Healing
Garden
and
the
only
Healing
Garden
that
I'm
aware
of
that,
the
city
is
involved
in
is
on
the
rooftop
at
native
Child
and
Family
Services
on
on
College
Street,
which
I,
don't
think
is
considering.
E
What's
happened
around
residential
schools
and
the
Truth
and
Reconciliation
Commission
that
the
only
Healing
Garden
that
we're
really
involved
in
is
on
the
rooftop
of
a
four-story
building.
It's
a
beautiful,
Healing,
Garden,
there's
a
sweat
lodge
that
you
go
up
a
maple
staircase
to
get
up
to
it,
and
it's
wonderful,
but
I
think
that,
if
we're
going
to
show
our
partnership
with
the
the
Aboriginal
community
in
Toronto,
having
this
on,
the
western
side
of
Nathan,
Phillips,
Square
I
think
is
in
the
right
place
is
very
prominent.
E
J
J
This
looks
glorious
and
and
would
be
a
fantastic
addition
to
our
square
and
and
a
perfect
place
for
respite,
but
also
for
education,
information
and
reconciliation
and
I'm
thrilled
to
hear
that
there
you
have
big
pots
of
money
from
other
levels
of
government,
so
that's
always
helpful
for
us
when,
when
we
make
commitments
as
well
so
looking
forward
to
seeing
this
come
through
through
to
fruition.
Thank
you
thanks.
F
Mayor
just
have
a
quick
motion:
I'd
like
to
move
that
recommendation
3
from
the
Aboriginal
Affairs
Committee
be
referred
to
the
budget
committee
for
consideration
in
2018
budget
process.
First
off
I
want
to
said
you
support
this
program.
The
motion
I'm
actually
moving,
is
more
process
to
ensure
it's
in
the
right
place
that
we
can
improve
the
half-a-million-dollar.
F
So
that's
why
I'm
moving
that
is
just
to
put
it
part
of
the
process,
we're
actually
starting
beginning
up
the
process
budget
process
very
soon,
so
it's
appropriate
that
we
get
that
over
to
that
process,
but
I
do
want
to
support
the
the
renditions
here
that
you
have
just
sent
out
a
camera.
Look
at
that
it
is
absolutely
stunning
and
I
just
want
to
congratulate
the
artists
and
all
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
on
this
and
I
will
be
encouraging
my
committee
to
support
this
as
we
move
it
through
the
process.
Thank
you.
A
Any
other
speakers
I
will
just
take
a
moment
if
I
may,
first
of
all
to
thank
you
for
coming
and
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
and
all
the
successful
fund
getting
work
that
you've
done
as
well
and
to
really
just
reiterate
what
councillor
Crawford
just
said.
You
know
in
this
case
it
would
be
unusual,
particularly
given
that
I
think
you
were
implying
the
release
of
other
financial
request.
You
ahead
of
us
beyond
what
you've
done
successfully
elsewhere.
A
It'll
be
unusual
that
that
would
happen
at
a
place
like
this
at
this
stage
of
a
project
like
this,
so
I
don't
want
you
to
be
concerned
about
that.
It's
just
really
a
matter
of
proper
process
to
have
it
go
there
to
be
considered,
because
we
are
dealing
in
the
case
of
the
money
that
was
suggested
here
with
insurance
and
maintenance,
as
opposed
to
money,
to
actually
build
the
project.
A
I
suspect
this
one
will
carry
a
lot
of
favorable
opinion
with
it,
but
I
just
am
Telling
You
that
I
watched
from
a
distance
I
was
in
fact
a
broadcaster
at
the
time
when
there
were
great
debates
about
what
is
the
best
use
of
this
kind
of
thing
and
there's
a
group
that's
referred
to
specifically
in
here
that
has
to
be
consulted
and
so
on
and
I'm
not
trying
to
be
negative.
Just
to
say
that
I
think
there'll
be
a
lot
of
people.
A
But
there
is
a
process
to
be
followed
there
as
well,
but
I
do.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
think
it's
you'll
see.
The
response
here.
I
think
you've
experienced
already
is
very
positive
and
you've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
the
project
and
it
looks
like
a
project
that
would
really
enhance
a
whole
bunch
of
things
but
including
the
nature
of
this,
the
most
important
gathering
place
in
the
in
the
downtown
part
of
the
city.
So
thank
you
very
much
all
right.
We're
ready
to
go
sir
pass
that
guy
is
it.
D
F
E
D
A
You
thank
you
ready
for
the
question
then,
on
the
motion.
First
by
councillor,
Crawford
to
refer
item
3
recommendation
3
to
the
budget
committee,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
and
then
the
item,
the
rest
of
the
item,
recommendations,
one
and
two
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried.
So
it's
going
forward
for
the
feasibility
study
and
to
come
back
I
guess
fairly
shortly,
and
we
thank
you
very
very
much
for
being
here
today
now
I
believe
that
brings
us
next
to
28th
is
17
and
we
were
holding
that
for
a
deputation
and
it's
the
item.
A
A
Hearing
none
I'll
ask
if
there
any
speakers
hearing
none,
then
I'm
ready
to
put
the
question
on
the
recommendation
coming
from
the
School
Boards
Advisory
Committee,
all
those
in
favor
I'm,
sorry,
oh
I,
just
I
just
went
through
that
was
pardon
me
I.
Just
asked
for
questions
and
I
asked
for
speakers
all
right.
Well,
let's
go,
then
let
me
put
a
list
together.
I'll.
D
J
There
sorry
I
should
be
clear
counselor.
There
are
amendments
to
both
the
early
years
Act
and
to
the
Education
Act
requiring
school
boards
to
work
with
service
system
managers,
which
would
be
the
City
of
Toronto
in
providing
extended
day
programs
where
there
is
demand.
So
there
are
amendments
to
both
acts
as
a
result
of
modernizing
the
early
learning
system
right.
D
J
The
school
there
are
a
number
of
reasons,
we're
involved.
First
of
all,
the
school
boards
can
directly
operate
the
programs
should
they
choose,
they
have
not
so
far
elected
to
do
so,
but
they
are
not
giving
it
serious
consideration
in
terms
of
DeMint
determining
where
there
is
demand
for
these
programs.
J
The
school
boards
are
required
to
work
with
service
system
managers
which,
in
this
case,
Children's
Services
in
the
City
of
Toronto
fulfills
that
role,
so
they
rely
heavily
on
our
data
with
respect
to
program
requirements,
gaps
in
the
service
system,
child
population,
and
all
of
that
we
also
manage
the
quality
control
in
the
before
and
after
school
programs
when
they're
licensed
childcare.
All.
D
J
No
they're,
not
that
the
provincial
directive
is
very
clear
that
school
boards
and
service
system
managers
work
together.
The
city
is
not
directly
operating
these
programs,
except
in
the
few
cases
where
our
own
Toronto,
early
learning
and
childcare
is
providing
school
age
programs
by
and
large
they're
provided
with
commute
by
community
partners
with
whom
the
city
has
a
purchase
of
service
agreement.
Children
and
these
programs
are
eligible
for
fee
subsidies
and
we
manage
the
fee
subsidy
system.
Okay,.
C
J
The
financial
impacts
to
the
city
are
really
funded
predominantly
by
the
province.
It's
through
the
fee
subsidy
system
by
and
large,
these
school
age
programs
are
not
eligible
at
present
for
base
funding.
So
the
only
way
they
are
supported
directly
by
the
city
is
through
children
and
receipt
of
fee
subsidy,
and
also
they
don't
even
benefit
from
that
occupancy
grants
within
skills
as
a
school
age.
Space
is
shared
and
we
do
not
pay
for
shared
space.
So.
C
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
included
in
our
operating
budget,
so
we're
not
actually
running
the
programs.
It's
more
just
a
subsidy
piece.
That's
coming
into
play!
That's
crazy
that
it's!
Okay,
it's
just
what
we
have
before
us.
It's
not
not
crystal
clear!
So
that's
actually
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
You're.
A
C
Wanted
to
clarify
the
reason
this
is
here
is
because
the
schools,
schools,
City
Advisory
Committee,
does
not
have
the
capacity
or
authority
to
make
any
requests
staff
and
enough
staff,
and
it
has
to
come
through
the
executive
committee
before
it
can
get
reports
back
to
its
committees.
So
the
intent,
let
me
just
copy
the
report-
that's
before
CDR
this
month,
explains
all
of
the
funding
that
has
come
from
the
provincial
federal
government
and
how
we
are
going
to
revise
our
our
child
care
growth
strategy.
C
They
have
gone
through
a
process
of
identifying
which
schools
in
which
areas
they
think
can
accommodate
growth,
and
this
report
would
report
on
that
and
our
staff
don't
have
that
information.
Only
the
school
board
staff
can
bring
it
forward,
and
so
that
is
the
exact
forum
where
we
should
have
discussion
about
how
we
plan
child
care
in
a
coordinated
way
when
the
school
board
gets
the
lion's
share
of
the
capital
money
and
are
working
with
us
to
determine
how
and
where
to
invest
that
capital
money.
C
N
Have
a
motion
actually
to
ask
for
a
bit
more
information
to
come
to
the
committee.
I,
don't
know
if
I
was
the
only
councillor
or
not,
but
I
had
to
deal
with
a
bit
of
a
crisis
in
the
beginning
of
school
year,
with
some
of
my
centers
scrambling,
because
I
had
more
than
a
hundred
parents
without
after-school
programs,
because
one
of
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
did
not
have
licensing.
So
we
had
to
scramble
that
first
week
to
get
inspections
going
and-
and
it
was
it
was
very
it
was.
N
It
was
very
stressful
and
I
can't
even
imagine
how
stressful
it
was
for
the
parents
that
had
to
deal
with
the
situation.
So
I
think
that
if
we
need
to
understand
a
little
bit
better
the
process,
so
we
can
give
better
feedback.
We
need
to
understand,
especially
when
there's
schools
beside
each
other.
How
is
that
process
being
assessed
which
school
is
gonna,
get
what
and
when
there's
other
centers
outside
the
schools
as
well
just
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have.
N
We
can
give
them
some
feedback
to
have
the
process
run
as
smoothly
as
process
as
poss,
because
I
hoping
that
none
of
you,
if
you
didn't,
have
to
go
through
anything
like
that
that
none
of
you
go
and
you
don't
have
your
parents
going
through
it,
because
it
can
be
very
stressful,
especially
at
the
beginning
of
a
school
year
when
you're
left
without
before
and
after
school
programming.
So
I'm
asking
for
some
information.
So
we
can
give
the
appropriate
feedback.
A
A
That
brings
us
then,
to
item
28
point
two
three
I
believe
private
ramps
on
public
rights-of-way
and
we
were
holding
that
for
a
deputation
for
mr.
glavish.
Is
he
here
all
right?
If
he's
not
here,
then
we
won't
hear
that
other
questions
of
staff
are
there.
People
wishing
to
speak
okay,
I'm
ready
to
call
the
question
then,
and
that
is
on
again
item
28
point
two
three
and
it
is
recommendations
coming
from
the
Toronto
accessibility,
Advisory
Committee
set
out
in
the
agenda
all
those
in
favor
opposed
to
Carrie.
A
A
L
Now,
if
we
have
more
data
as
well
like
the
the
data
is
great,
but
what
do
we
do
with
it
and,
quite
honestly,
I
think,
there's
a
real
long
with
the
pattern
of
harm
and
crash
on
the
main
core
roads.
There's
also
a
pattern
of
kind
of
willful
blindness
not
really
doing
enough
to
actually
respond
to
this
public
health
crises
and
bikes
are
actually
good
for
overall
public
health
because
we
promote
physical
activity
and
that
helps
reduce
the
provincial
healthcare
budget.
L
Therefore,
there'll
be
more
inclined
to
send
us
money,
maybe
if
we
actually
had
more
of
a
network.
So,
yes,
we've
got
the
the
Richmond
Adelaide
lanes.
They're,
wonderful,
the
Bloor
pilot
is
a
start.
It's
you
know
just
in
terms
of
data
as
well,
though
it's
no,
you
might
see
bike
lanes
on
Bloor
and
Danforth
all
the
way
you
know
friend
by
1995,
so
we've
been
waiting
for
a
little
while
on
this
shall
we
say
and
the
in
terms
of
data
as
well.
The
Bloor
pilot
has
been
helpful.
L
We
were
supposed
to
be
hauling
all
this
data,
but
at
the
same
time
my
corridor
study
includes
the
subway.
Somehow
the
subway
was
missed
and
that's
really
wrong
because
there's
a
half
million
passengers
on
it
each
day
and
we're
told
old,
Bloor
young
is
overcrowded.
It's
overloaded,
it's
almost
unsafe,
but
we
can't
seem
to
get
the
concept
of
bikeway
relief
in
there.
And
yet
that's
really.
L
The
easy,
quick
cheap
thing
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
they're,
safe
continuity
parallel
to
the
subway
to
start
taking
writers
off
the
subway,
letting
people
have
some
choice
to
bike,
and
people
do
do
that.
I'm,
seeing
more
people
on
the
viaduct,
for
instance,
and
the
numbers
of
the
the
Bloor
pilot
are
such
that
it's
surging,
but
again
there's
that
problem,
that
real
gap
between
bluer
and
on
Bloor
east
between
Sherbourne
and
church
and
council
wong-tam
supports
change
there
too.
So
what
are
we
doing?
We
know
the
data,
but
what
are
we
doing?
L
These
data?
Don't
include
streetcar,
track
crashes
either
and
that's
a
real
oversight.
So
in
terms
of
the
limitations
of
data,
we
have
to
start,
including
the
streetcar
track
crashes,
with
with
our
data
as
well
and
sometimes
there's
a
willful
blindness
in
that
I've
been
ruled
out
of
order
twice
at
the
transit
Commission
over
the
decades
about
trying
to
draw
attention
to
these
hazards,
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
it's
real.
L
We
start
to
count
them
because
on
the
provincial
level
and
it
had
needed
a
UBC
research
to
do
this,
I
believe
they
they
may
be
some
other
help
from
Toronto.
But
now
of
all
the
bike
crash
series,
bike
crash
victims
in
our
Toronto
hospitals
or
to
Toronto
hospitals,
I
think
a
third
of
them
were
due
to
retrac
interactions.
L
So
in
the
meanwhile
Manolis
data,
yes,
we
made
some
changes,
but
there's
still
I'd
still
like
to
give
notice
of
hazard
to
the
to
the
city
to
for
for
blue
or
Danforth
College
Queen
King
Dundas,
another
thing:
the
the
gaps
in
our
bike
plan.
This
is
another
thing,
then
the
new
bike
plan
talks
about
complete
and
you
know
filling
the
gaps.
But
if
there's
a
list
of
the
gaps
in
her
network,
I'd
like
to
see
it
speaking
of
open
data,
maybe
I
don't
know
where
it
is.
L
But
I
think
there
are
an
awful
lot
of
serious
gaps
in
our
in
our
biking
network
system
and
like
little
clunks.
It's
like
going
from
really
smooth
ash
wall
to
a
country,
road
kind
of
and
then
back
again,
except
the
lanes
narrow
and
this
and
that
like
it,
we
really
have
a
patchwork
and
a
not
work
and
we're
not
including
the
streetcar
track
crashes.
L
There
was
a
very
fascinating
little
comment:
yes,
fascinating
little
fresh
data
thing
that
I
didn't
bring
my
computer
down
for,
but
it
showed
the
bike
traffic
through
the
older
core
over
a
day
sped
up
thing.
We
aren't
just
staying
in
the
bike
lanes.
We
go
everywhere
so
that
we
have
to
make
sure
that
every
street
is
a
safe,
cycling
street
and
we
have
a
rally
outside
tonight
at
5:30
for
the
friends
and
families
for
safe
streets,
by
the
way
hope
you
all
can
make
up.
Thank.
A
A
A
If
I
can
have
a
motion
to
refer
the
items
of
staff
for
consideration
as
part
of
the
report
on
the
open
data
master
plan
and
program
from
councillor
Ainsley,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry,
and
the
next
item
was
2825,
which
will
be
recommending
similarly
to
be
disposed
of,
but
we
have
a.
We
have
a
deputation
mr.
Mark
Richardson
mr.
Richardson.
S
S
So
most
of
you
know
that
we've
been
coming
down
here
since
about
2014
talking
about
the
gaps
in
the
city's
open
data
program
today.
Well,
particularly
talking
about
some
of
the
stuff
coming
out
of
the
Toronto
parking
authority
on
the
bike
share
and
on
the
Greenpeace
side,
it
was
interesting
when
we
saw
the
exact
agenda
that
there
was
something
missing
today
in
a
problem
we
were
here,
we
were
told
that
the
Open
Data
master
plan
was
going
to
be
brought
back
to
this
meeting.
S
At
that
meeting,
we
suggested
that
staff
be
given
three
months,
because
if
you
gave
them
three
months,
they'd
probably
come
back
in
six
months.
You
gave
them
six
months
and
they're
not
here
today
the
mayor
you've
spoken
about
how
dissatisfied
you
are
with
the
open
data,
progress
that
is
or
is
not
being
made.
S
We're
equally
dissatisfied
with
the
pace
of.
What's
going
on.
It's
been
great,
some
of
the
stuff
we
heard
this
morning
around
sidewalk
and
smart
cities
and
the
Amazon
bid.
Last
week
we
wrote
some
great
stuff
in
that
Amazon
bid,
but
we're
not
walking
the
talk
that
sits
underneath
it.
We
are
years
behind.
New
York
Chicago
Los
Angeles,
San
Francisco.
These
are
cities
that
release
volumes
of
meaningful,
open
data
and
that's,
what's
really
going
to
be
the
underpinning
of
a
21st
Century
City.
S
We're
hoping,
in
addition
to
this
data
about
bike,
share
that
at
least
the
November
29th
exact
meeting.
There
is
an
open
data
master
plan,
that's
brought
forward
and
the
similar
to
the
motion
we
saw
earlier
from
councillor
Crawford,
there's
a
maximal
standalone
money
dedicated
in
the
2018
budget
to
just
catching
up
on
open
data
where
you've
been
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Open
data
is
the
core
infrastructure
of
a
smart
city
in
the
1930s
you
built
water
treatment
plants
in
the
1960s.
You
built
elevated
expressway.
S
In
this
decade
you
should
have
been
opening
up
your
data
and
you
haven't
been
at
anything
close
to
the
pace.
You
need
to
be
doing
it
at
specific
to
the
bikes
city
bike
in
New,
York
versus
bike
share,
Toronto,
so
city
bike
in
New
York.
The
data
is
on
their
open
data
portal.
It's
very
granular,
its
refreshed
regularly.
It
tells
you
the
trip
details
where
the
trip
started,
where
it
ended
date
time
the
individual
bikes
where
they
go,
the
longitude
and
latitude.
S
So
it
can
be
mapped
the
bike
ID,
even
the
user
type,
whether
that
is
a
member,
a
non-member,
a
casual
member,
and
if
the
users
have
opted
in
to
identifying
themselves,
they
can
also
identify
themselves
by
age
and
gender.
So
you
can
see
who
it
is
you're
servicing
with
that
bike
service,
whereas
here
in
Toronto
right
now,
the
only
open
data
you're
offering
is
the
doc
locations
and
the
current
doc
capacity.
So
where
are
the
docs
and
how
full
are
they
right?
Now,
there's
no
per
trip
detail.
S
There's
no
demographic
data
available
for
people
to
look
at
the
good
news
is
that
in
the
attachment
to
this
item,
the
staff
have
said
they
are
working
to
release
more
data,
similar
trips
start
and
end
identification,
whether
it's
a
registered
or
a
casual
member,
and
there
is
a
date
in
there
of
January
2018
to
release
it.
So
one
of
the
things
I'm
asking
all
of
you
to
do
is
just
put
a
reminder
in
your
end
of
January
calendar.
Did
this
actually
happen
by
January
2018?
S
If
it
did
great,
if
it
didn't
kick
some
butt
for
us,
please
and
I'll
roll
into
26.
Now,
which
is
essentially
the
same
thing,
but
with
regards
to
comparing
the
data
releases
from
the
green
pee
parking
equivalent
in
San
Diego,
which
is
all
of
the
parking
leaders
and
all
of
the
tickets
and
app
sales,
the
the
team
at
green
pee
here,
the
Toronto
parking
authority
is
saying
that
by
January
2018
they're
going
to
release
monthly
information,
but
it'll
just
be
the
volume
and
revenue
per
location.
S
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
include
the
on
street
meters
by
sight,
they're
saying
that
by
March
of
2018
and
they
are
going
to
release
more
and
they're
reviewing
practices
similar
to
San
Diego,
but
there's
always
lots
of
wiggle
room
in
how
they
write
these
requirements
or
how
they
were
quite
the
right.
These
so
another
just
put
it
into
your
your
calendar
for
the
end
of
March.
Did
we
release
this
data
and
if
we
didn't,
why
didn't
we?
Everyone
always
talks
about
money.
Both
of
these
items
come
out
of
the
Toronto
parking
authority.
S
E
S
E
And
the
one
diagram
you
showed
of
bike
stations,
yeah
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
you've
been
at
Toronto,
Police,
Services
Board
three
times
now,
three
or
four
times
and
to
me
that's
very
reflective,
the
same
thing
at
police,
they're,
open
datasets.
They
had
two
sets.
They
showed
one
a
list
of
their
stations
and
another
one
was
the
boundary
of
their
stations.
Yeah.
S
There's
a
big
concern
within
the
staff
here
about
releasing
any
level
of
granularity,
which
is
really
where
the
value
of
open
data
is
it's
not
about
what
people
say.
They
do
it's
about
what
people
actually
do
and
the
only
way
you
measure
what
people
actually
do
is
by
having
the
data
on
their
patterns
and
behavior,
not
as
individuals
but
in
an
aggregated
level
by
gender
time
of
day
birth.
Here
those
sorts
of
things
that
they're
doing
in
New,
York,
City,
okay,.
E
And
when
we
talk
about
the
other
one,
the
open
data
for
cycling
again,
for
example,
minder
saying
as
many
different
municipalities
there's
an
app
called
Strava
city
of
washington
actually
has
multiple
open
data.
Sets
that
much
like
if
I
was
driving
from
Scarborough
to
City,
Hall
and
I
could
use
Google
to
figure
out
how
busy
a
road
was.
E
S
Perfect
example
that
comes
from
New
York,
City
I
was
at
the
Microsoft
reactor
Gotham
program,
which
is
their
startup
incubator
and
when
you're
doing
Google
Maps
in
Manhattan.
Right
now,
when
you
say
I
want
to
go
from
one
location
to
another
location,
it
will
give
you
the
time
by
car
the
time
by
transit
and
the
time
by
city,
bike
and
city
bike
on
anything.
Less
than
about
three
miles
is
usually
the
fastest
way
to
go
and.
S
A
S
A
Ask
one
and
see:
if
there's
anybody
who
could
answer
it,
which
is
the
question
mr.
Richardson
quite
properly
posed
and
he's
correct
in
saying
that
I'm
impatient
with
this,
because
I
just
don't
think
we're
doing
the
job
that
could
should
be
expected
of
a
city
of
this
sophistication
and
that
advertises
itself
the
way
that
it
does
in
Amazon
bids
and
many
other
places.
On
his
specific
question
which
is,
can
we
expect
the
data
open
data
master
plan
at
the
November
executive
committee
meeting
and,
if
not,
when
will
it
be
expected?
A
C
C
A
E
I
have
I
have
two
motions
that
I'm
gonna
move
to
refer,
these
two
items
to
the
open
data
management,
master
or
master
plan,
and
I'm
also
going
to
speak
of
it.
To
my
frustration
about
the
answer
that
you
just
heard:
Mehra
Tory,
because
we
first
looked
at
looked
at
an
open
data
master
plan
at
the
executive
committee
in
April
of
this
year.
It
was
supposed
to
be
here
in
September,
and
then
we
were
told
October
and
November,
and
now
we're
hearing
next
March
and,
as
I
show
the
government
management
committee.
E
A
Counsel
Ainsley,
so
we
have
the
emotions
here.
If
there's
any
questions
on
those,
it's
not
both
for
both
20s
25
and
26,
and
also
will
we've
heard.
The
deputations
on
both
I
would
just
comment
same
on
both
if
there
are
no
other
speakers
just
to
say
you
know,
I
sit
on
the
Police
Services
Board
too,
and
I
must
say
you
know
I
with
the
greatest
of
respect
and
some
of
the
legal
and
other
kinds
of
complications.
A
What
you
really
get
when
you
get
timetables
like
this
is
an
indication
that
there
isn't
a
serious,
enthusiastic,
determined
commitment
to
be
leaders
in
this
area
and
I
just
think.
That's
there's
a
bit
of
a
disconnect
between
what's
going
on
at
the
level
of
the
elected
people,
or
at
least
some
of
them
and
elsewhere
and
I'm
regret
that,
because
I
think
it
does
affect
our
credibility
when
it
comes
to
us
talking
about
it
was
the
expression
mr.
Richardson
used
about
walking
the
talk.
A
I
am
extremely
disappointed,
as
the
mayor
in
the
number
of
data
sets
we've
made
available
both
at
the
police
service
and
I've
said
it
there,
and
here
at
the
city,
it's
not
up
to
what
we
should
be
expecting
and
I
say
that
I'm
sorry,
if
it's
critical
of
public
servants,
that's
not
the
idea.
The
idea
is
just
that
I.
Think
together
we
haven't
done
the
job
and
now
the
very
notion
that
we'd
be
saying
the
first
quarter,
which
could
mean
as
late
as
March
31st
or
just
before.
A
A
They
can't
do
that,
and
so,
and-
and
you
know
so
anyway
enough
said-
and
hopefully
we
can
find
a
way
to
even
speed
that
up
and
maybe,
if
I
can
say
to
the
chief
corporate
officer
Josey,
you
know
if
there's
some
chance,
we
can
expedite
that
report
coming
back
sooner
than
the
end
of
the
first
quarter.
That
would
be
terrific
and
I
would
commend
that
production
of
the
report
earlier.
If
it
happened,
then,
as
opposed
to
my
criticism-
I
just
love
it
now
and
it
accompanies
the
criticism
of
others.
Thank
you
any
other
speakers.
A
Otherwise,
we're
ready
to
call
then
we'll
deal
2825
first
and
the
amendment
there
is
or
the
the
motion
is
to
refer
this
matter
to
staff
as
part
of
the
open
data
master
plan
28:25
the
question:
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
28:26
same
motion
to
refer
the
matter
to
staff
Open
Data
master
plan,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
to
carry.
Am
I
right
that
brings
us
the
end
of
our
business.
Is
there
any
other
business
anybody
needs
to
raise
hearing
none
I
will.