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Executive Committee, meeting 29, November 28, 2017 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=11834
Part 2 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SkfsAzdKec#t=9m04s
Meeting Navigation:
0:05:37 - Call to order
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A
council
may
I
ask
first
if
there
are
any
declarations
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
Act,
and
if
you
have
such
a
declaration
to
make.
Please
indicate
the
item
number
and
the
nature
of
the
interest.
I
see
none.
So
we
can
move
forward.
I
may
I
have
a
motion
to
confirm
the
minutes
of
the
executive
committee
meeting
of
October
24th
2017
councillor
McMahon
councillor
platy,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
now.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
as
everybody
will
be
aware,
we
have
a
lengthy
agenda
in
front
of
us
today.
A
We
have
many
members
of
the
community
here
who
wish
to
speak
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
in
order
to
cover
off
both
the
lengthy
agenda
and
the
people,
we
have
here
to
speak.
That
I
would
propose
a
motion
in
respect
of
how
we
conduct
this
meeting
and
I
would
ask
the
clerk
if
she'll
put
the
motion
up,
it
will
close
registration,
as
you
can
see
at
10:30
this
morning,
and
no
other
registration
would
be
allowed.
A
After
that,
the
length
of
public
presentations
speakers,
members
of
council
members,
the
executive
committee
be
limited
to
three
minutes
with
one
round
of
questions.
The
questions
to
staff
members
from
members
of
council,
including
the
executive
committee,
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
One
round
per
member
and
the
speaking
times
for
members
of
council
be
three
minutes.
A
I
think
this
will
be
lots
of
time
for
us
to
get
through
all
the
business
that
we
have
to
do,
but
also
hear
from
everybody
who
needs
to
be
heard
from
and
wants
to
be
heard
from
in
respect
of
all
the
matters
in
front
of
us.
It
may
I
have
a
I'm
moving
that
those
changes
for
the
procedure
for
this
meeting
be
made.
A
That's
number
one
number
two
I
would
seek
your
concurrence
following
lunch.
Today
we
had
a
request
from
Andrea
Chris
John
from
the
Toronto
Council
fire
to
lead
us
in
a
blessing
prior
to
our
consideration
of
the
of
the
item.
Ix
29
point
36,
the
establishment
of
an
indigenous
affairs
office
at
the
City
of
Toronto
and
its
proposed
that
we
would
have
the
blessing
a
smudging
and
drumming
ceremony
and
then
proceed
immediately
to
consider
right
after
lunch.
A
The
establishment
of
the
indigenous
Affairs
Office
for
the
City
of
Toronto
as
the
first
item
of
business
after
lunch,
then
I'm
proposing
that
we
consider
item
IX,
29
point
10,
enhanced
security
measures
at
Toronto,
City
Hall.
As
the
second
item
of
business
after
lunch,
it's
likely
that
we're
gonna
have
to
have
a
confidential
discussion.
A
In-Camera
discussion
there
because
of
the
reports
submitted
to
us
and
then
two
more
first
of
all
item
29
point
11,
which
is
the
anti
the
action
plan
to
confront
anti
black
racism
and
then
29
point
12,
the
the
poverty
reduction
strategy
for
2017
and
and
the
work
plan
for
2018.
And
all
of
this
is
out
of
consideration
for
various
people
who
are
here
to
be
heard
and
and
experiences
previously
considered.
A
Because
some
of
these
groups
had
to
wait
until
11:30
one
of
the
last
times
we
considered
their
matter
and
we
just
thought
we
would
try
to
avoid
that
happening
a
second
time
in
a
row.
Finally,
I
would
propose
that
we
break
at
12:20
p.m.
as
opposed
to
12:30
so
that,
hopefully,
members
of
the
committee
and
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
do
so
can
attend
the
celebration
outside
for
the
great
Cup
champion.
Toronto
Argonauts
that
begins
at
12:30
and
I
know
that
a
number
of
people
here
will
want
to
attend,
including
the
chair.
A
So
our
people
agreeable
to
those
two
those
changes
in
the
agenda
and,
if
so,
we'll
proceed
on
that
basis.
So
that
then
brings
us
to
the
rundown
of
the
agenda
and
of
course,
as
you
know,
if
you
want
to
hold
an
item
state,
your
name
and
say
hold
and
the
items
with
deputy
ins,
I
will
hold
these
items
and,
starting
with
item
IX
29.1
smart
track
project
update.
It
is
being
held
for
deputations
PX
29.2,
a
rail
deck
park
being
considered
what
the
other
two
is
being
held
for
for
deputations,
and
so
that
means
we're.
A
Holding
since
they're
being
heard
together,
twenty
nine
point,
two
twenty
nine
point.
Three
and
twenty
nine
point,
four.
That
would
take
us
to
twenty
nine
point:
five
citywide
real
estate
amendments
to
the
municipal
code
chapters
in
shareholder
directions,
movement
held
a
moving.
The
recommendation:
were
you
wanting
you're
moving
the
staff
recommendations?
Chatter,
all
right!
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry.
Thank
you.
Twenty
nine
point:
six
new
city
of
toronto
investment
policy
being
held
for
deputations,
twenty
nine
point:
seven
development
of
low-carbon
thermal
energy
networks
and
the
recommendations
in
the
report
are
in
front
of
you.
A
I'll
move
those
recommended
by
councillor
shiner.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
to
carry
twenty
nine
point:
eight
finalizing
the
consolidation
of
the
civic
theaters
in
toronto.
Councillor
crawford
moves
the
staff
recommendations.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
twenty
nine
point.
Nine
I
am
proposing
members
of
the
committee
that
we
withdraw.
A
The
item
that
the
item
be
withdrawn-
the
report
from
Toronto
Hydro
there's
there
is
now
a
report
and
but
I
guess
there's
been
some
discussion
about
the
circumstances
in
which
it
makes
its
way
to
this
committee
and
so
I'm,
just
suggesting
we
just
put
it
over
the
who
withdraw
it
for
now
and
it'll
come
back
because
there
is
a
report.
That's
the
good
news,
I
guess
who.
B
A
A
A
Yes,
14
finalizing
plans
for
new
supportive
homes
at
13
to
15
and
17
to
19
Winchester
Street
councillor
Barlow,
again
moving
the
staff
recommendations.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
29
point,
15
new
supports
and
housing
for
survivors
of
human
trafficking.
Councillor
Ainsley
moving
the
apartment.
We
want
to
hold
it
all
right,
held
by
councillor
Ansley,
29:15,
29,
16
and
16;
a
funding
allocations
to
support
57,
affordable
housing,
ownership
ownership
homes
and
the
these
are
fractions.
You
want
to
hold
that
you're.
A
D
A
You
twenty-nine
point:
seventeen
creation
of
a
new
property
tax
class
for
creative
colocation
facilities.
Again,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
staff
recommendations
moved
by
councillor
McMahon?
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
29-point
18,
the
2018
rate
supported
budgets,
toronto,
water
and
toronto.
Waste
water
consumption
rates
and
service
fees.
May
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
staff
recommendations.
I'm
moved
by
councillor
Ainsley
second
concert:
Crawford.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
the
item.
A
A
To
hold
twenty
nine
twenty
nine
point:
nineteen
held
by
councillor
shiner
twenty
nine
point:
twenty
the
rate
supported
budgets
for
2018
for
the
Toronto
parking
authority,
I
like
to
hold
it.
Please
you
want
to
hold
that
held
by
councillor
Ainsley.
Thank
you.
Twenty
nine
point:
twenty
one,
the
2018
interim
estimates
motion
to
approve
the
staff
recommendations
moved
by
councillor
Crawford.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
twenty
nine
point.
Twenty
two
property
tax
is
2018
interim
levy.
Bylaw
move
bike
on
the
recommendations
of
the
a
report
moved
by
Councillor
Crawford.
A
29:24,
a
capital
variance
report
for
the
nine-month
period
ended
September,
30th,
2017
I,
moved
by
Councillor
Crawford
that
the
recommendations
to
be
approved
from
the
Budget
Committee,
all
those
in
favor,
opposed
to
carry
20
9.25.
The
operating
variance
report
for
the
nine-month
period
ended
September,
30th
2017,
coming
from
the
Budget
Committee
a
motion
to
adopt
the
recommend
Territory.
A
A
A
A
A
That
correction
I'm
sure
what
we
made
in
the
documentation
on
the
item.
The
question
to
be
called
29
point:
33,
accepting
the
recommendations
of
the
budget
committee.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
20
9.30
for
Sony
Center
for
the
Performing
Arts,
reallocation
of
2017
state
of
good
repair
capital
funds
motion
coming
from
the
Budget
Committee
moved
by
councillor
Crawford,
all
those
in
favor,
Oh,
Harry,
twenty-nine,
point
35,
Toronto,
Transit,
Commission,
2017,
operating
budget
adjustment,
a
recommendation
coming
from
the
Budget
Committee
moved
by
councillor
Crawford,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
29
point
36.
A
The
establishment
of
an
indigenous
affairs
office
at
the
City
of
Toronto
is
being
held
for
a
presentation
as
discussed
earlier
twenty-nine
point:
37,
executive
management,
indigenous
cultural
competency,
training.
There's
a
motion
coming
from
the
Aboriginal
Affairs
Committee
moved
by
councillor
McMahon,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Kerry,
twenty-nine,
point,
38
festivals
and
events
requiring
program
criteria
to
incorporate
accessibility
requirements.
This
is
recommendation
coming
from
the
Toronto
accessibility
advice
committee,
and
is
there
someone
to
move
the
staff
recommendations
moved
by
councillor
Ainsley,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
area?
A
A
Yes,
you're
listed
there
too.
Yes,
we
just
were
having
a
presentation
and
deputations
on
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
we're
holding
29-point
39
for
a
deputation
29.4,
zero
fire
prevention
in
high-rise
buildings
that
has
come
forward
as
a
recommendation
from
the
tenant
issues.
Committee
may
I
have
a
mover
for
that
you're.
Moving
that
you
have
offshore
accounts
of
Crawford
I
just
want
to
supporting
that,
but
just
moving
into
the
budget
process
I.
A
So
the
motion
that
the
the
recommendation
says
direct
that
funds
be
included
in
your
accept
what
I'm
saying
is
and
and
that
it
be
referred
to
the
budget.
We
referred
to
the
process
for
consideration
which
has
a
motion:
okay,
there.
It
is
refer.
The
item
to
the
budget
committee
all
right,
councillor,
Crawford
has
moved.
The
executive
committee
refer
this
item
to
the
budget
committee
for
their
consideration.
A
A
Item
29
point
1
and
we
have
the
deputations
if
I
can
just
find
my
green
sheet
somewhere
here
there.
It
is
I,
see
it
and
the
first
person
to
be
heard
today
on
the
smart
track
item
29
point:
1
is
Raymond
Chen
mr.
Chen
good
morning
and
pursuant
to
what
you
heard
us
discussing,
you
have
three
minutes,
and
so
we
welcome
your
comments.
A
The
concept
of
smart
mr.
Chen
I'll
stop
the
clock
here,
there's
the
usual
buzz
that
seems
to
arise
right
after
we
finish
doing
this,
and
people
are
shuffling
about
we'll
just
give
30
seconds
for
people
to
settle.
So
we
can
hear
you
because
I
want
to
hear
your
comments
over
here.
There's
a
lot
of
shuffling
and
conversation
going
on.
If
we
could
I.
A
D
The
concept
of
smart
Trek
and
wish
to
telomere
there
are
no
objections
using
the
Metrolink
corridors,
rapid
transit.
His
error
is
to
implement
smart
Trek
using
go
equipment
and
add
the
antiquated
railroad
technology.
The
proper
solution
is
amusing,
using
modern
signalling
systems,
regrettably
incompatible
with
go.
It
requires
news
tracks
in
the
Stila
corridor,
repurposing
the
upx
tracks
and
bypassing
Union
Station.
The
smart
Trek
can
be
funded
by
canceling.
The
Scarborough
subway
extension
go
is
not
the
right
equipment
for
smart
Trek
go
is
a
commuter
service.
D
It
uses
bi-level
railroad
coach
cars
to
lodge
large
numbers
of
people.
Railroad
regulations
require
15-minute
separation
between
train.
There's
been
no
discussion
of
smart
track
ridership,
because
15
minutes
service
has
no
appeal.
Union
Station
is
a
major
bottleneck
to
the
NGO
system.
Daniella
Medusa
know
told
me:
the
mayor
is
aware
of
these
items.
Smart
Trek
is
a
hub-and-spoke
city
service,
TTC,
buses,
deliver
batches
of
passengers
to
a
Station.
Trains
continually
speak
sweep
stations
to
keep
up
with
the
stream
of
buses.
D
This
requires
tracks
with
modern
signalization
trains,
with
faster
acceleration
and
more
doors
and
station
with
raised
platforms.
Emu
SR
like
subway
trains
and
are
more
appropriate
for
smart
travel.
They
can
run
in
the
Metro
links
corridors,
but
to
provide
four-minute
train
service.
They
need
a
separate
track
system.
Two
tracks
will
be
added
to
the
stovall
corridor,
the
terminals
at
Finch,
with
stations
at
Ellesmere,
Lawrence
and
Kennedy.
There
is
no
need
to
add
extra
tracks
in
the
West
Corridor.
The
upx
line
could
be
repurposed
to
serve
smart
tracks.
D
The
existing
upx
stations
would
need
to
be
modified
and
more
stations
added
to
avoid
Union
Station.
My
track
along
the
lake
shoreline
leaves
the
lakeshore
corridor
an
Eastern,
Avenue
and
travels
under
on
or
elevated
above
King
Street.
To
connect
to
the
upx
line.
Major
funding
comes
from
cancelling
the
Scarborough
subway
extension.
The
SSE
in
return
for
building
the
sse
council
acquiesced
to
the
offer
of
5,000
new
residential
units
at
the
Scarborough
town
centre.
The
SSE
is
an
economic
plan
30
years
into
the
future.
D
D
A
H
Do
hope
that
you
are
able
to
absorb
mr.
Chen's
comments,
because
it
is
complex
and
I
fear
that
we
are
potentially
not
doing
the
best
that
we
could,
even
though
it
is
really
complex,
I
struggle
with
it
all
as
I'm
sure
some
of
you
do.
I
am
like
in
theory.
Yes,
it's
very
easy
to
support
intensifying
the
use
and
the
reuse
of
the
existing
rail
lines
in
Toronto,
and
it's
overdue.
H
Going
back
a
few
years
to
the
1985
downtown
relief
line
concept
there
you
can
see
the
Western
Corridor
being
targeted
for
its
its
usage
or
for
transit.
And
yes,
the
upx
corridor
should
be
repurposed.
Somehow
it's
not
good
enough,
and-
and
we
could
actually,
if
he
really
were
able
to
I,
know
it's
complex
between
the
technologies
and
the
rail
way
rules
and
the
federal
level
and
the
this
and
the
space
constraints.
But
if
we
somehow
were
able
to
intensify
the
usage
from
Dundas
West
down
through
the
rail
tracks
along
front
or
King,
as
mr.
H
Chen
suggested
getting
off
of
Union
Station,
just
by
a
little
bit
and
then
going
east
to
the
main,
a
Danforth,
where
it's
very
linked
up
there
very
proximate
near
to
each
other.
That
might
be
a
way
of
providing
faster,
cheaper,
downtown
relief
to
the
bluer,
Danforth,
subway
and
somehow
I
think
we've
got
to
squeeze
the
billions
and
I
certainly
think
we
should
start
with
the
Scarborough
subway
extension
and,
unfortunately,
the
politics
of
transit
planning.
H
They
seem
to
be
a
bit
skewed,
it's
not
a
new
thing,
but
we
we're
and
we're
prone
to
making
mistakes
and
they
tend
to
be
costly
mistakes.
So
we
need
to
squeeze
the
billions
and
we
need
to
do
things
effectively.
So
I
am
hoping
that
we're
able
to
take
enough
time
to
actually
do
things
well.
Another
thing
that
is
not
done
so
well
in
terms
of
really
thinking
about
they're
using
the
rail
corridors.
The
onion
I
didn't
bring
down
the
proper
map,
but
beside
the
Don
Valley
Parkway
there's
a
spur
line
in
its
own
Metrolinx.
H
It
could
be
I,
think
extended
up
to
touch
thorn,
cliff
and
also
to
extend
north
to
get
up
to
the
rich,
basically
lines
up
parallel
to
the
to
the
Yonge,
subway
and
I.
Think
there's
a
way
if
like,
why
hasn't
that
been
included
in
the
in
the
smart
track
processes
and
the
go
away
electrification
if
it's
merely
the
flooding
issues
of
the
Don
Valley.
H
I
wish,
we
could
revisit
the
smart
spur
angle
to
have
a
spur
line,
come
off
from
the
the
this
line
here
to
get
over
to
Scarborough
town
centre,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
improve
the
the
services
Sarah,
burrow,
town
center
and
I.
Think
that
part
of
the
solution
again
for
Scarborough
is
using
that
guide
no
hydro
corridor.
Three
minutes
is
not
enough
time,
but
thank
you
for.
A
A
I
Tori
and
members
of
the
executive,
okay,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
Lawrence
East
smart
track
station
I
was
at
the
public
consultation,
hilter's
mark
track
and
Scarborough.
But
none
of
my
concerns
about
this
plan,
or
those
of
others
have
been
included
or
addressed
in
the
report
before
you.
It
seems
the
city
has
adopted
a
take-no-prisoners
approach
with
the
Lawrence.
A
smart
track
proposal
here
are
some
of
the
things
that
have
not
been
addressed.
The
Lawrence
East
Coast
station
will
not
provide
access
to
the
town
center.
I
Many
riders
on
the
Lawrence
East
buses
transfer
at
the
existing
RT
station
to
go
up
to
Scarborough
town
centre
where
they
can
transfer
to
other
buses
at
the
Triton
terminal.
They
won't
have
direct
direct
access
anymore.
They'll
have
to
transfer
two
buses
either
the
21
Brimley,
the
43
Kennedy,
which
only
runs
during
rush
hour
or
the
16
McCowan,
or
the
nine
Brimley,
which
only
run
every
20
minutes.
So
to
surf
the
go
trains.
I
I
All
we
know
is
that
that
TTC
that
go
train
fare
will
be
less
a
dollar
fifty,
but
there
still
have
to
have
to
pay
more
to
get
downtown
and
the
loss
of
five
and
potentially
seven
stops
result
in
more
people
on
buses
and
longer
travel
times
to
get
around
Scarborough.
The
seven
stop
scarborough
LRT
would
have
included
all
five
artists
and
added
two
new
ones,
one
at
Centennial
College
in
Sheppard
Avenue.
But
the
report
does
not
acknowledge
this
fact.
I
It's
very
clear
that
Lauren
C
smart
track
will
not
make
up
for
the
elimination
of
Rapid
Transit
for
the
ten
thousand
riders
currently
using
the
Laurens
East
RT
station
and
I
just
wanted
to
raise
your
attention
about
the
fact
that
the
the
Metro
links
business
case.
The
initial
business
case
hasn't
concluded
that
Lauren
C
smart
track
station
is
not
a
good
idea.
It
would
result
in
more
congestion
and
you
would
have
a
net
loss
of
four
hundred.
I
Ninety
riders
on
the
electrified
go
trains,
and
the
other
thing
is
that
Metrolinx
employees
business
case
framework
which
is
used
to
determine
whether
or
not
projects
are
good
use
of
public
funds,
and
in
that
framework
they
called
for
a
comparison
with
the
business
as
usual
scenario.
So
with
the
case
of
the
Lawrence
E
smart
track,
we're
being
told
this
station
is
to
replace
the
existing
RT,
but
there
has
been
no
comparison
with
the
existing
RT.
The
the
Lauren
C
smart
track
is
being
compared
to
the
goal,
electrification
and
that
doesn't
exist
yet
concluded.
I
J
I
J
I
I
A
Questions
at
miss
Thompson
I
just
had
a
couple.
If
I
could
miss
Thompson
just
to
have
you
confirm
for
us,
you
have
no
reason
to
believe
that
the
discussions
that
are
taking
place
on
a
concurrent
basis
all
the
time
now,
on
the
subject
of
fair
integration,
you
have
no
reason
to
believe
those
discussions
aren't
going
to
reach
a
satisfactory
conclusion
in
terms
of
a
fair
integration
as
between
the
different
transit
systems
that
are
taking
part
in
those
discussions.
I
have.
A
A
And
you'd
have
no
reason.
You'd
have
no
reason
to
believe
that
the
co
fare,
which
is
part
of
the
objective
of
that
to
have
smart
tract
for
the
price
of
a
TTC.
Where
you,
you
would
have
no
evidence,
no
reason
whatsoever
not
to
think
that
that
could
be
achieved.
I
mean
it's
under
active
discussion.
Would
you
acknowledge
that
I
would.
I
Acknowledge
it's
under
discussion,
but
I
would
urge
you
to
make
an
announcement
as
soon
as
possible,
especially
when
you're
planning
your
transit
line
to
replace
a
Scarborough
RT
station.
If
you
really
expect
it's
going
to
provide
equivalent
service
levels,
every
four
minutes
at
a
TTC
fare
I
would
be
coming
out
and
saying
that
right
now
so
they'll
know
what
they're
getting
it's.
A
A
And
you
would
acknowledge
that
the
first
step
along
the
way-
and
you
acknowledge
you-
did
acknowledge
it
specifically
if
the
first
step
along
the
way
and
it's
a
step
forward-
is
the
dollar
fifty
that
people
will
now
get,
and
it's
not
everything,
but
it's
a
first
step
forward.
It's
the
first
time
we've
ever
done.
You'd
acknowledge
the
first
time
we've
ever
seen
any
kind
of
recognition
in
this
case
by
the
province
to
fund
some
of
the
differential
between
TTC
and
GO
Transit.
You
acknowledge
that's
yourself,
I
acknowledge.
I
A
I
K
A
A
A
K
K
Here
today,
because
I'm
very
concerned
and
the
people,
my
community
are
very
concerned
about
what
is
being
proposed
for
the
Eglinton
West
LRT
project.
There
have
been
at
least
three
meetings
where
government
officials
have
come
to
Etobicoke
to
get
input
from
what
we
want
to
see
happen
with
the
LRT
extension.
There
was
a
meeting
of
February
20
2016
at
richard
collegiate.
K
There
was
a
meeting
in
May
2016
at
Martin,
Grove
collegiate
for
the
minister
transportation,
Steven
del
Duca
and
the
then
president
of
Metrolinx
Bruce
Micawber
out
to
here
get
input
from
the
community,
and
recently
there
was
a
meeting
on
November
13
2017,
where
the
city
staff
came
out
to
Martin
Grove
collegiate
to
hear
what
the
community
has
to
say.
In
all
three
of
these
meetings
there
were
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
residents,
and
the
message
was
very
clear
and
loud
to
the
city
staff.
K
If
you're
going
to
extend
the
LRT
and
bring
it
west
along
Eglinton
for
mountainous
terrain
forth,
then
it
must
be
tunnelled.
An
at-grade
solution
is
not
an
option
why
we
do
not
want
another
Saint
Clair
mistake
in
our
community.
The
traffic
on
Eglinton
is
already
very
congested
and
there
are
new
high-rise
developments
coming
into
our
neighborhood,
and
then
an
a
great
solution
will
destroy
any
quality
of
life.
K
Our
community
is
presently
enjoying
so
instead
of
trying
to
convince
us
with
studies
that
are
so
that
have
so
many
unanswered
questions
and
flawed
assumptions,
with
the
hope
of
changing
our
minds,
do
the
right
thing
and
deliver
what
the
residents
and
ratepayers
are
asking
for.
What
asks
directly
to
the
city
staff?
Why
are
you
not
promoting
a
tunneled
solution?
The
answer
is
always
the
same.
A
tunnel
solution
is
too
expensive.
What
does
that
mean
too
expensive,
too
expensive,
for
whom
is
it
too
expensive
for
the
City
of
Toronto
to
fund
adapt?
So
on
its
own?
K
Absolutely,
but
why
does
it
have
to
be
the
City
of
Toronto
that
bears
all
the
cost?
There
are
different
levels
of
government
that
have
a
responsibility
to
the
taxpayers.
For
example,
where
did
the
funding
come
from
to
pay
for
the
crosstown
East
LRT?
It
came
from
multiple
levels
of
government.
Why
isn't
that
funny
model
being
promoted
for
the
Eglinton
West
LRT?
Let's
look
at
another
example.
Recent
example,
from
an
article
in
the
Toronto
Star
dated
November
17th
by
David
Ryder,
the
City
Hall
Bureau
Johanna's
knew
a
subway
line
is
now
just
one
month
away.
K
In
less
than
a
month,
the
Toronto
York
Spadina
subway
extension
will
open
on
Friday
Toronto
Mayor
John
Tory,
Ontario
Minister
Stephen
del
Duke,
and
others
gather
that
the
new
down
to
station
to
start
clicking
down,
probably
the
single
greatest
transit
achievement
on
my
life
Stephen
del
Duca,
said
it's
amazing
to
see
what
we
can
achieve
when
we
work
together.
Tory
said
of
all
three
levels
of
government.
Along
with
the
enthusiasm
anticipation,
the
extension
has
experienced
some
growing
pains,
excluding
delays
and
overruns,
the
cost
more
than
doubled.
K
Initial
estimates
to
3.2
billion,
including
five
hundred
million
dollars
not
attributed
to
the
addition
of
extra
stops.
Funding
at
all
was
split
between
Ottawa
Queens,
Park,
York,
Region
and
Toronto,
with
the
city's
contribution
roughly
900
million
dollars.
This
was
apparent
success,
even
though
there
was
much
cost
overrun.
I
have.
K
Do
all
this
is:
where
is
a
political
will
to
create
this
cooperation?
I
will
end
by
saying
this
listen
to
the
people.
They
are
the
ones
who
elect
you,
respect
us
do
not
dismiss
us
channel
you,
as
elected
officials,
channel
your
energy
to
creating
the
political
will
from
all
levels
of
government
to
put
in
place
the
necessary
funding
to
do
the
right
thing
and
tunnel.
The
Eglinton
West
LRT
Thank.
A
L
You
thank
you
John,
for
coming
down.
Today,
you
were
at
the
November
13th
consultation
and
you've
attended
a
number
of
the
other
consultations.
Just
generally,
what
was
the?
What
was
the
mood
in
the
room
that
evening,
in
regard
to
the
options
that
were
presented
by
city
staff,
about
the
routing
of
the
LRT
across
Eglinton?
Well,.
K
It
was
very
clear
everybody.
There
very
loudly
said
we
want
a
study
that
shows
a
tunneled
LRT
stopped
delivering
to
us
at
the
decision
that
you've
already
made
that
there
is
no
option
for
that
and
and
the
issue
was
we
want
to
see
that
information.
We
want
to
understand
what
the
costs
are.
We
want
to
be
able
to
debate
that
and
then
approach
the
different
level
of
a
government
so
that
we
can
canvass
them
at
election
time
and
see
where
their
level
is
and
supporting
the
funding
for
that
kind
of
of
construction
would.
L
K
L
K
No
question:
it's
going
to
make
it
worse
right
now,
we're
we're
still
not
sure
a
lot
of
things
of
things
like
left-hand
turns
whether
they
will
still
have
a
bus
service
like
duplicating
more
service.
There's
so
many
unanswered
questions,
there's
going
to
be
new
development,
that's
going
to
require
left-hand,
turns
between
Wincott
and
Kipling
and
that
hasn't
been
brought
into
it.
There's
gonna
be
plant
world
coming
in
with
more
requests
as
well
too.
So
there's
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions,
so
we
want
them
to
listen
to
bring
the
information
forward.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
M
You
Mayor
John,
thanks
for
talking
us
today,
your
association
is,
is
large
and
it's
busy
I
know
that
you've
been
involved.
You've
come
to
a
topic
o
community
council
and
spoken
to
councillors
about
developments
and
traffic
issues.
Would
you
say
that
there's
capacity
in
your
association
to
spend
time
or
have
you
already
spent
time
doing
some
analysis
on
the
staff
materials
I?
Think
you
even
have
a
scientist?
That's
a
member.
K
We
have
some
very
talented
and
capable
people
in
our
community
who
are
very
engaged
in
all
this.
They
want
they
come
forward.
They
what
we're
all
volunteering
our
time,
I'm
down
here
today
away
from
my
business.
The
point
is,
we
are
very
concerned
of
what's
gonna
happen,
we
love
the
area
we
live
in
and
we
don't
want
people
who
don't
live
in
our
area
to
make
decisions
that
will
destroy
what
we
enjoy
right
now.
Rather.
M
Than
an
opposition,
would
you
say
that
members
of
your
association
would
like
to
cooperate
more
with
the
city
to
spend
time
and
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
actually
put
some
sweat
equity
into
this
and
and
work
together?
But
I?
Think
one
of
the
things
I
heard
was
that
there
just
wasn't
a
complete
amount
of
information
or
there
wasn't
access
into
the
black
box
that
had
to
do
with
the
the
algorithms
and
the
studies
and
the
engineering
and
there's
people
that
want
to
get
into
that.
Absolutely.
K
There
were
a
lot
of
questions.
There
was
a
stakeholders
meeting
October
23rd
as
well
too.
For
a
few
of
us.
A
lot
of
questions
were
raised
about
all
these
assumptions
and
these
these
these
studies
that
were
done
and
there's
very
obvious-
that
they're
there
they're
they're
not
being
transparent
and
they're
being
flawed
and
they're.
Like
I
said
we
have
very
capable
people
with
our
community
that
are
highly
educated,
understand
this
kind
of
stuff
and
they
want
to
participate,
we're
not
against
traffic.
We
want
more
traffic,
but
it's
got
to
be
the
right
kind
of
traffic.
K
M
And
and
also
I
right
now,
there's
construction
going
on
Eglinton,
there's
resurfacing
and
so
they've
got
the
lanes
reduced
traffic's
down
to
two
lanes.
What
has
been
the
impact
of
that
construction
on
what
I
would
call
very,
very
residential
garden,
planned
neighborhoods
that
our
parallel
to
echoing
tonality?
What
what
has
this
construction
done
and
do
you
sense?
People
have
drawn
an
inference
from
those
experiences
to
what
may
happen
within
Eglinton
LRT.
Absolutely.
K
There's
been
an
infiltration
of
many
cars
coming
into
into
neighborhoods
that
were
not
designed
for
that
kind
of
traffic
and
the
people
are
feeling
very
anxious
and,
as
I
said,
with
with
new
development
high-rises
being
promoted
and
on
our
in
our
corridor,
it's
only
gonna
get
worse
and
so
we're
asking
for
the
people
that
make
these
decisions
to
respect.
What's
going
on
in
our
area.
K
A
Think
consistent
with
what
you
said:
direct
staff
to
form
a
working
group
of
community
stakeholders
and
counselors
and
others
to
work
on,
investigating
further
great
separation
or
tunneling
options,
and
to
further
traffic,
modeling
and
and
an
enhanced
framework
that
addresses
community
interest.
So
is
that
something
that
would
be
responsive
to
what
you've
said
today?
Absolutely.
A
Are
going
to
be
hopefully
passing
that
today
and
making
that
opportunity
available
so
I?
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
appreciate
it
Thank
You
Matthew,
all
right.
That
was
the
end
of
the
deputation,
so
we
would
then
move
to
questions
of
staff
by
visiting
members
of
council
if
there
are
any
councillor
Holliday
deputy
mayor
Holliday.
Thank.
M
You
again
mr.
mayor
I,
wonder
if,
if
staff
could
articulate
a
little
bit
about
what
a
Michigan
left
is
and
what
a
protected
Green
is
and
why
that's
extremely
important
to
traffic
flow
along
Eglinton,
they're,
small
words
buried
in
the
report,
but
I
would
say
that
they
do
have
a
significant
impact.
They
know
that
I'm
time
constrained,
so
I'd
ask
you
to
try
to
be
succinct
and
what
what
they
mean.
G
So
in
the
through
the
chair
in
the
original
study
for
or
ei
for
the
the
Eglinton
LRT,
there
was
a
reference
to
including
Michigan
laughs,
which
are
a
little
bit
of
a
convoluted
approach
to
a
series
of
right
turns,
instead
of
instead
of
laughs,
but
we
will
be
investigating
as
part
of
this
signaling
options
that
would
that
would
eliminate
the
need
for
Michigan
laughs.
There
may
be
other
ways
that
we
can
deal
with
those
issues
protected.
M
N
M
Would
it
be
fair
to
say
that
a
protected
green
set
of
light
signals
offers
a
significant
delay
rather
than
free-flowing
green
for
somebody
that
wants
to
go
left
and
changes
the
green
time
economics
of
the
intersection,
which
would
also
affect
the
north
and
south
travel
of
cars
and
TTC
buses
that
say
flow
up
and
down
Kipling
or
Islington
or
Roy
York,
which
are
other
major
arteries.
So.
G
M
One
of
the
things
mentioned
in
the
report
is
that
there's
other
work
going
on
in
parallel
to
this
particular
project
and
study
and
I
will
note
specifically
there's
a
discussion
about
the
highway
interchange
of
the
401
for
27
and
27
highways,
really
looking
at
a
macro
view
of
changes
to
traffic.
However,
the
report
talks
about
it
as
implementing
those
alternatives
as
an
as
an
alternative
to
grade
separations.
That
say
an
intersection
like
Martin
Grove.
G
The
chair,
we
are
doing
a
study
at
the
Martin,
Grove
and
Eglinton
intersection,
because
of
the
very
reasons
that
you
mentioned,
we
are
working
with
MTO.
We
would
like
to
identify
different
measures
that
could
be
taken
to
improve
that,
but
some
of
that
would
require
MTO's
cooperation
because
of
the
traffic
that's
flowing
in
to
and
off
of
the
427
and
401
in
that
area.
Thank.
A
O
You
very
much
mr.
mayor
I'm,
not
sure
who
should
take
this
question.
When
we
last
discussed
the
this
plan,
the
staff
recommendation
had
been
that
when
we
get
to
the
third
design
stage
that
then
we
should
get
some
financing
option
council,
in
its
wisdom,
decided
that
was
an
adequate
council.
Irma
Havok
moved
a
motion
that
passed
saying
that
in
this
quarter
we
should
get
an
update
on
the
financing
for
the
RER
stations
and
other
aspects
of
smart
track.
I
I
don't
see
that
here.
Why
not
so.
P
O
So
my
question:
wasn't
whether
or
not
you
know
the
total
amount
of
funding
that
you
need?
My
question
was
why,
given
that
you
had
a
specific
direction
from
Council
to
provide
us
with
an
update
on
the
types
of
financing,
the
types
of
financing,
not
the
amount
that
types
in
this
quarter.
Why?
Where
is
that
counsel
directed
it
through.
D
D
We
were
also
engaged
with
Metrolinx
on
the
procurement
strategy,
which
which
allocates
risks
and
those
risks,
have
financial
implications
and,
to
the
extent
that
those
agreements
on
procurement
have
yet
to
be
concluded,
it
was
felt
that
it
would
be
premature
to
provide
you
with
any
sort
of
a
financing
strategy.
At
this
point
in
time,.
J
Q
D
D
D
J
P
O
G
Through
through
the
chair,
we
will
expect
updated
costs
from
Metro
links
in
the
next
month
or
so
on,
the
station
designs,
and
we
will
be
undertaking
a
validation
of
those
costs
to
get
at
some
of
those
very
questions
that
you're
asking
councilor
about
what
is
the
RER
portion?
What
is
the
smart
track
portion
so
that
we
can
present
that
to
Council
in
full,
but.
P
To
be
clear,
we
need
in
this
next
in
the
next
report
to
identify
progress
on
our
negotiations
with
Metrolinx
the
province
on
the
distribution
of
cost
between
our
ER
and
the
smart
track
will
have
to
have
some
sense
of
the
overall
costing,
hopefully,
all
of
those
costs.
Those
class-3
cost
to
inform
you,
and
we
have
to
show
you
how
that
rolls
out
in
context
of
the
cpap
process
has.
J
L
You
I
think
this
question
might
be
for
the
deputy
city
manager.
The
list
of
unfunded
transit
priorities
is
reasonably
long.
Where
would
the
Eglinton
West
LRT
be
on
the
list
of
priorities
of
unfunded
transit
priorities
and
we
have?
We
have
East
Bay
front
downtown
relief
line,
Eglinton
East
LRT
to
Scarborough
to
the
Scarborough
campus
of
the
UFT,
then
there's
a
whole
waterfront
reset?
Is
that
that's
a
that's
a?
Is
that
a
comprehensive
list
of
unfunded
transit
at
this
point
in
time?
So
mr.
P
L
P
P
Approved
the
smart
track
stations
and
we
have
approved
the
idea
of
an
LRT
on
Eglinton
west,
so
those
that
have
been
identified.
We've
also
identified
Eglinton
East
as
a
priority
and
we're
coming
back
with
a
report
next
next
time
to
executive
on
waterfront,
which
is
always
rate
rated
high
in
priority,
and
it
is
he
it
is
also
unfunded.
Ok,.
L
L
G
L
Just
a
question
about
about
the
report:
that's
before
us
today
and
the
recommendations
about
not
having
grade
separations
along
Eglinton.
There
were
a
number
of
community
consultations.
Metrolinx
was
involved
as
the
city
was
involved
there,
as
the
decadent
from
my
area
pointed
out,
there
were
a
number.
What
why
did?
Does
the
report
not
make
any
reference
to
the
feedback
from
the
community?
If
we've
been
doing
all
of
these
consultations
so.
G
We
have
sent
out
meeting
summaries
to
all
participants
in
those
went
out
yesterday
and
have
also
been
monitoring
and
doing
a
rollup
of
what
we've
been
seeing
in
our
online
surveys
and
all
our
past
consultations.
The
full
report
on
those
consultations
is
available
on
our
on
our
project
website
committed.
L
So
years
so
in
this
report,
I
mean
to
ask
questions:
yeah.
Okay,
in
this
report,
the
staff
recommendation
to
not
have
grade
separations
I
mean
did
did
did
staff
give
consideration
to
what
the
community
overwhelmingly
stated
was
their
preference
for
either
underground
or
grade-separated
intersections.
G
P
D
G
D
G
D
P
D
D
P
D
D
P
Really
very
tremendously,
depending
on
the
configuration,
the
complicated
ones
like
your
station
and
your
award
counselor
and
East
Harbor,
the
Liberty
Village
there
are
relatively
complicated
and
really
tight
geographies
with
different
difficult
access
and
egress.
More
typical
ones
like
st.
Claire
and
Finch,
for
example,
are
more
economical
and
come
in
under
a
hundred
million
dollars.
Okay,.
A
C
C
G
C
So
at
that
point
the
community
would
have
an
opportunity
to
learn
to
be
inform
about
both
aspects
of
the
smart
tract,
as
well
as
the
master
transportation
plan
and
perhaps
and
choose
one
of
the
options
or
the
preferred
alternatives
before
decisions
are
made.
At
answer.
Is
that
correct,
that's
correct
and
that
information
somehow
will
come
to
cancel.
G
So,
as
part
of
our
report
to
Council
in
in
q2
of
2018
this,
this
links
to
the
confirming
the
station
designs
and
the
costing
we
will
include
also
related
projects
in
in
that
report
to
Council
so
at
st.
Clair.
We
would
would
include
information
about
the
transportation
master
plan
and
discuss
ways
that
we
may
be
able
to
advance
both
projects
concurrently.
G
A
C
S
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
through
you
to
staff
on
page
4
of
the
report,
there's
a
reference
here
of
working
in
partnership
with
the
City
of
Mississauga.
Well,
the
last
time
an
earlier
iteration
of
this
report,
which
mentioned
a
400
plus
million
cost
to
the
city
of
Mississauga,
was
was
met
with
shock
and
surprise
by
the
mayor
of
Mississauga.
Are
we
making
some
progress
in
getting
them
to
come
to
the
table
and
pay
their
fair
share?
So.
G
R
S
So
that's
still
up
in
the
air,
so
on
page
55
of
the
report,
there's
a
reference
to
my
favorite
topic,
commuter
parking
and
it's
hard
to
tell
from
this
there's
a
reference
to
councillor
Kerry
gannis,
who
had
a
town
hall,
and
everyone
said
they
wanted
220
parking
spots,
there's
a
there's,
an
identification
of
a
cost
here,
acquisition
of
land,
some
some
other
details.
It's
hard
to
tell
from
this
is
the
Finch
Kennedy
station.
It's
hard
to
tell
from
this
weather
staff
are.
Are
we
adopting
a
recommendation
to
build
a
commuter
parking
lot
at
that
station?.
T
A
quick
questions
about
the
bells
that
continues
to
be
an
issue
on
some
of
the
existing
stations,
and
we
had
asked
to
have
conversations
started
with
the
federal
government
and
provincial
government,
because
it's
going
to
be
even
a
bigger
issue.
Once
we
have
all
these
stations,
can
you
let
us
know
how
that
is
going
and
what
has
been
done.
R
D
R
D
R
T
A
Thanks
deputy
mayor
Barlow,
are
there
other
members
of
the
committee
wishing
to
ask
questions
of
staff
all
right,
then
we'll
move
to
speakers
and
those
outside
the
committee
wishing
to
speak
to
councilor
holiday?
Did
you,
okay,
deputy
mayor
holiday
will
speak
first
and
others
can
sign
up
as
they
wish
councillor
Davis.
M
You
know
do
my
best
to
show
and
operate
the
projector
I.
Just
would
like
to
say
thank
you
to
you,
mr.
mayor,
for
the
the
leadership
that
you're
taking
on
looking
at
continued
work
on
tunneling
or
grade
separations
along
Eglinton.
Avenue
I
just
wanted
to
talk
to
the
committee
about
why
this
is
so
important
to
us.
We
had
a
recent
community
meeting
and
if
you
think
this
is
a
sleeper
issue,
it
is
not
yeah.
The
room
was
filled
to
the
rafters
with
people
that
are
very
concerned
about
quality
of
life
in
Etobicoke
Center.
M
We
have
a
taste
of
that
right
now
because
of
the
construction
going.
All
along
has
caused
traffic
to
infiltrate
on
many
many
parallel
routes
dramatically
affecting
the
quality
of
people's
lives.
This
is
a
very
long-standing
issue.
Just
a
quick
look
at
the
highway
system
in
the
area,
people
will
know
that
we've
got
the
403,
the
401,
the
427,
the
401
again
and
Eglinton
Avenue
right
here
long
ago
there
was
an
expressway
that
was
planned
along
Eglinton
Avenue.
M
That
was
never
built,
but
Eglinton
continues
to
survive
to
this
day
as
what
I
would
characterize
as
a
super
artery,
not
a
major
artery,
but
a
super
artery
there's
a
lot
of
cars.
So
if
you
look
at
this
strip
that
we're
studying
right
now,
you've
got
the
401,
427
interchange,
and
this
begins
right
here
and
you
can
see
essentially
the
highway
empties
out
onto
Eglinton
Avenue
and
what
you
get
is
traffic
behavior.
That
is
very
indicated
of
this
super
artery.
M
People
come
off
of
the
highway,
they
come
along
Eglinton
and
they
use
this
as
a
way
to
disperse
within
the
neighbourhood
along
the
cross,
major
arteries
and
on
well
I
really
worry
about.
This
is
that
it
doesn't
function
as
a
typical,
east-west
road.
Everything
leads
back
to
the
highway,
so
at
the
end
of
the
day,
people
operate
in
Reverse
and
you've
got
people
collecting
along
Eglinton
and
heading
towards
the
highway
getting
on
the
highway
and
treating
this
as
a
very
regional
transportation
system.
I've
shown
this
to
council
before
look
at
that,
there's
the
artery.
M
The
vein
system
I
believe
that
the
the
roadways
behave
no
differently
and
the
addition
of
an
LRT,
if
not
done
very,
very
carefully,
is
tantamount
to
severing
one
of
the
arteries
and
what
you
get
is
as
gross
as
this
sounds
is
bleeding,
and
that
is
really
the
worry
about.
The
people
of
the
neighborhood
is
traffic
spilling
over
into
the
quieter
streets
in
the
neighborhood
to
get
around
a
block.
Eglinton
Avenue.
M
We
talked
about
some
of
the
intersections
and
what
in
terms
mean,
that
means
that
if
you
wanted
to
go
left
this
way,
you
can't
do
that
anymore.
You'd
have
to
go
right
in
order
to
go
left
once
again
to
go
back
through
the
intersection,
and
that's
why
grade
separations
are
so
important
at
these
major
intersections
because
they
affect
traffic
flow
in
both
directions.
I
think
what
we
have
is
a
tremendously
engaged
community
that
wants
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
work
with
the
city.
M
The
work
has
started:
we've
gone
through
a
rapid
transit
evaluation
framework
I'm,
not
sure
that
the
community
is
entirely
convinced
about
all
of
the
findings
in
this
and
what
they
are
doing
is
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
city
to
further
refine
this
and
have
some
equal
footing
and
some
equal
say
I.
Thank.
J
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
did
want
to
just
identify
again
some
of
the
concerns
I've
expressed
in
the
past
and,
while
I
do
believe
that
smart
track
or
RER
can
provide
some
additional
options.
That
could,
in
the
absence
of
the
relief
line,
provide
some
additional
options
for
for
travelers
and
provide
some
relief
at
Yonge,
&,
Yonge
and
Bloor.
J
But
we
are
again
moving
this
project
ahead
with
virtually
no
information
about
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
it
and,
secondly,
what
the
ridership
will
be
and
what
the
fares
will
be,
which
which
are
completely
linked,
as
we've
known
all
along
so
I'm,
hoping
that
when
this
next
report
comes
back
and
we
will
be
hopefully
at
30%
design
in
2018,
I,
guess
q2
2018-
that
we
will
know
better
how
much
it's
actually
going
to
cost
the
people
of
Toronto.
One
of
my
canoe,
all
along
has
been.
J
J
So
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
it's
going
to
be
affordable,
that
the
frequency
that
we've
been
promised
will
actually
be
there
and
that
we
won't
be
carrying
any
of
the
additional
operating
costs.
Now,
we've
already
committed,
unfortunately,
to
100%
of
the
operating
costs
of
the
LRT
s,
we've
committed
to
70
million
in
sunk
costs
on
smart
track,
and
if
we
find
ourselves
in
any
way
getting
off
one
of
these
stage
gates,
we
will
be
paying
for
this.
J
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr.
mayor.
No
there's
no
word
that
stands
to
benefit
more
than
Ben
Ward,
four
from
mass
transit
with
the
Eglinton
West
LRT,
but
there's
also
no
Ward.
That
could
be
more
detrimental
e
affected
than
war
for,
and
residents
in
my
ward
and
in
councilor
holidays.
Ward
are
generally
supportive
of
mass
transit,
but
they
realized
that
the
permanency
of
this
infrastructure.
They
know
that
it's
there
for
50
or
60
years.
L
They
see
they
have
seen
examples
of
mass
transit,
not
done
well
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
and
they
don't
want
that
sort
of
not
well
done.
Mass
transit
coming
along
Eglinton,
which
is
already
a
very
as
councilor
holiday,
pointed
out
a
very
problematic
route
for
for
traffic
in
Toronto,
so
I
would
they
want
to
see
a
route
that
is
either
partially
tunneled
or
fully
grade
separated
so
as
to
not
inhibit
traffic,
which
is
already
bad
and
I?
L
Guess
so
that
that's
my
comment
on
that
this
particular
project
and
I
guess
the
other
comment
that
I
would
make
has
to
deal
with
our
transit
priorities.
The
former
chief
planner
said
that
transit
the
transit
planning
department
would
be
coming
back
with
a
list
of
priorities.
This
was
presented
us
about
three
years
ago.
We
haven't
seen
anything
else
in
terms
of
what
actually
matters
most
to
the
city.
What
where
will
the
funding?
If
funding
becomes
available?
Where
will
we
channel
our
funds?
Will
it
be
East
Bay
front?
L
Will
it
be
the
waterfront
reset
that
addresses
the
whole
mess
along
Etobicoke
lakeshore
down
by
parkland
or
lecture
the
councillor
Grimes
talks
about?
Will
it
be
the
the
downtown
relief
line
that
has
been
trumpeted
as
a
must-have?
Will
it
be
the
Eglinton
East
LRT
that
was
supposed
to
be
part
of
the
initial
iteration
of
the
blur
Danforth
extension
to
the
Scarborough
town
centre,
but
then
vaporized
the
Eggland's
and
East
LRT
to
to
the
Scarborough
campus
of
the
U
of
T?
L
So
there
are,
may
we
have
a
long
wish
list
and
I
think
we
need
to
set
priorities
to
it
and
that's
the
kind
of
direction
that
I
would
like
to
see
coming
from
staff,
or
at
least
somehow
put
some
sort
of
list
of
priorities
together
so
that
we
know
that
if
funding
comes
from
the
province
or
a
provincial
government,
we
know
where
that
money
is
going
to
be
devoted,
so
Thank
You.
Mr.
mayor
thanks.
O
You
I
want
to
begin
I
guess
by
following
on
from
something
councillor,
Campbell
said,
which
is
we
have
great
many
transit
projects
out
there
that
we're
hoping
someday
to
be
able
to
accomplish,
but
at
the
same
time,
we're
about
to
enter
into
the
final
budget
of
this
term
of
office.
In
just
a
few
short
weeks,
it's
going
to
be
launched
we're
going
to
be
entering
into
that
discussion
without
either
the
long-range
financial
plan
that
we
had
been
promised
by
this
time.
O
Nor
are
we
going
to
be
proceeding
with
more
thorough
advice
on
what
kind
of
financing
is
available
for
the
projects
described
in
this
report,
and
yet
we're
continuing
to
contribute
substantial
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
of
public
money
into
investigating
this
option.
I
I
must
say
that
the
people
of
Toronto
would
be
rightfully
deeply
confused
about
what
we're
attempting
to
do
here
when
we're
moving
forward
a
whole
series
of
transit
projects
without
any
idea
of
how
public
finances
from
the
City
of
Toronto
will
or
will
not
be
able
to
contribute
to
them.
O
It's
not
a
great
way
to
plan
a
transit
system
or
to
run
a
city
and
I'm
profoundly
disappointed.
We
don't
have
that
update,
which
council
directed
should
be
here,
and
we
don't
have
the
long-range
financial
plan
which
council
directed
should
be
here.
We
continue
to
just
fly
blind
in
terms
of
our
transit
planning
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
adding
priorities,
subtracting
priorities,
changing
priorities
without
any
context
for
what
we
can
actually
deliver.
It's
it's
poor
governance
and
it's
a
very
poor
way
to
plan
the
future
of
the
City
of
Toronto.
A
There
were
a
couple
of
other
reports
that
were
to
have
been
here
at
the
same
time,
but
they're
coming
very
shortly
and
I
think
people
will
easily
be
able
to
in
the
context
of
both
transit
planning
and
budgets
for
2018
and
beyond.
You
know
to
begin
to
better
put
into
context
the
financial
commitments
that
and
the
did
you
did.
You
have
that
motion
so
I
just
put
that
up,
because
I'll
speak
to
that
in
a
moment,
but
I've,
it's
just
so
it's
there
and,
and
so
in
that
sense,
I,
obviously
don't,
except
for
one.
A
Second,
the
comments
I
think
what
I
do
accept
and
I
put
to
you,
I,
respectfully,
put
to
to
all
the
members
of
council
and
to
the
public
is
that
you
know
contrast
the
situation
that
we're
that
was
just
described
in
fairly
dire
terms
with
the
situation
we've
had
in
most
previous
years,
where
we've
had
basically
no
transit
projects
on
the
goal.
I
mean
that
that's
an
exaggeration
as
well
as
was
worth
of
some
of
the
comments.
A
I,
would
respectfully
suggest
made
a
moment
ago,
but
I
think
what
we
now
have
is
a
network
transit
plan
for
the
city,
which
yes,
does
absolutely
positively
contain
multiple
transit
projects
to
be
proceeding
with
in
large
measure,
because
previous
councils
at
previous
times
didn't
proceed
with
very
much
and
they
did
manage
to
approve
a
lot
of
the
growth
that
has
taken
place
in
the
city
in
the
context
of
development
without
the
accompanying
transit
and
I'm.
Not
assessing
that
blame
on
any
particular
person.
A
I
wanted
to
vote
just
the
remaining
one
minute.
I
have
to
the
motion
that
I
have
up
here,
which
is
to
simply
be
responsive
in
the
time
we
have,
because
these
are
longer-term
projects.
There
is
a
planning
process
where
there
has
been
time
set
aside
and
without
delaying
it.
We
can
be
responsive
to
the
to
the
concerns
registered
this
morning
by
mr.
A
So
my
motion
will
stand
on
the
record
and
and
I'll
ask
for
your
support
on
that.
That
concludes
my
own
remarks.
Are
there
any
others?
One
last
time,
all
right,
then
I
guess
the
first
thing
we
proceed
to
do
is
to
deal
with
the
motion
and
that
I
put
with
that
amends
the
recommendations,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
unanimously
and
then
on
the
recommendations,
as
amended
recorded
a
bullock-cart
vote
on
the
recommendations,
as
amended
all
those
in
favor.
D
A
You
very
much
okay.
That
brings
us
then
to
item
29
point
to
which
and
twenty
nine
point
three
and
twenty
nine
point
four
and
we're
gonna
begin
with
a
presentation
from
mr.
Libby
and
mr.
Lynn
turn
about
the
three
items
taken
together.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
being
with
us
today
and
we'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
P
Thank
You
mr.
Morelle
just
take
a
second
to
get
this
unloaded,
but
while
we're
waiting,
I
want
to
thank
a
number
of
people
that
have
been
involved
in
preparation
and
support
the
acting
chief
planner,
Greg
Lynn
turn
Andrew
nasara
Scott
Pennington
for
the
superlative
work,
they've
done,
Janey
romoff
and
her
team
on
the
parks,
work,
Joe
Frank,
these
finance
staff
very
helpful
Bill,
Toronto,
Mike
Weiland
in
particular,
and
the
team
from
W,
SP
and
Macmillan
architects
have
assisted
us.
The
engineering
study
where
we
have
for
you
today,
mr.
mayor
is
a
four
port.
P
P
Q
Mayor
over
the
last
10
years,
and
we've
all
seen
witness
to
this
with
the
number
of
cranes
that
are
in
the
city,
the
amount
of
development
happening
downtown
a
significant
difference
in
the
look
and
feel
of
our
city,
and
you
can
see
that
with
these
two
images.
I'd
importantly,
no
doubt
that
the
density
has
increased
significantly.
Q
The
average
density
over
the
last
10
or
so
years
has
gone
from
269
to
682
units.
A
hectare
citywide
downtown.
That
is
a
an
even
more
intense
level
of
development.
The
the
pace
of
development
is
expected
to
continue
over
the
horizon
up
to
20
41,
both
in
the
context
of
residential
that
we're
seeing
and
non-residential
development.
You
can
see
the
numbers
on
the
screen.
I
would
just
point
out
that
this
is
why
we're
acting
we're
doing
a
downtown
plan.
It's
called
teal
core.
Many
of
you
have
heard
of
it
and
importantly,
to
support
that
growth.
Q
We
have
to
bring
online
more
infrastructure
to
support
the
quality
of
life
in
the
city
and
one
key
part
of
that
is
the
parks
and
public
realm
strategy
just
long
side.
All
of
us
work
going
on
in
this
growth
area
downtown
is
a
citywide
look
at
at
parkland,
through
Jeanne
Ramos
group
in
parks
forcing
recreation,
the
parkland
strategy,
which
is
a
big
piece
of
work
that
updates
work.
Q
This
slide
just
indicates
something
that
you
know
by
traveling
around
in
the
urban
fabric
that
the
downtown
experience
is
a
much
lower
level
of
a
parkland
provision
in
the
rest
of
the
city.
It
also
highlights
the
fact
that
it's
very
hard
to
acquire
land
and
in
the
downtown
sites
are
smaller
and
they're
much
much
more
expensive
than
the
rest
of
the
city.
Q
The
parkland
strategy
includes
mapping
in
the
in
the
documents
I
just
point
out
that
this
is
a
way
of
understanding
that
there
is
a
shortage
of
large
parts
across
the
city,
but
they're
particularly
there
is
a
particular
shortage
in
areas
like
Yonge
and
Eglinton
in
the
downtown.
Again,
it's
not
just
the
amount
of
parkland,
but
the
size
and
utility
of
parkland
the
larger
the
parks
are
the
greater
utility
they
are
for
the
residents
of
Toronto,
which
brings
us
to
the
opportunity
for
rail
deck
park.
Really
the
last
remaining.
We've
done
the
analysis.
Q
It's
the
last
remaining
opportunity
to
provide
park
downtown
would
be
the
largest
park
outside
the
parks
and
open
spaces
that
are
actually
in
the
Don
Valley.
It's
an
asset
really
for
all
Torontonians
accessible
to
the
entire
region.
We've
heard
previously,
but
a
go
re
are
stationed
right
at
this
location.
It
can
make
a
very
positive
contribution
to
the
environmental
and
resiliency
goals
of
the
city.
It
aligns
very
nicely
with
a
lot
of
the
strategies
that
this
council
has
advanced
and,
very
importantly,
it
resets
the
signature
of
Toronto.
Q
Q
It
gives
us
really
a
missing
part
of
the
missing
missing
tooth
of
the
connections
that
are
across
the
central
waterfront,
connecting
to
the
west
to
ray
up
to
the
western
rail
path
connecting
to
the
east
of
the
Don
Valley.
The
project
area
itself
is
a
almost
eight
and
a
half
hectares
or
20
acres
portion
of
it
is
owned
by
Metro
links
at
the
corner
of
Front
Spadina.
Q
The
city,
very
importantly,
owns
the
the
majority
of
the
lands
along
the
perimeter,
both
north
and
south,
of
it,
and
owns
the
point
to
lose
bridge
which
bisects
the
rail
corridor,
the
property,
if
you,
if
you're,
if
you're
aware
of
these
parks
in
other
parts
of
the
cities,
the
best
equivalent
for
parks,
are
christi
pits
and
Eglinton
Edmonton
park
of
a
Yonge
and
Eglinton
the
potential
of
a
comprehensive
park.
Development
is
a
very
important
part
of
the.
Q
It
is
large
enough
really
to
serve
the
breadth
and
range,
a
purpose
that
you
see
here
in
these
seven
other
downtown
parks.
So
this
is
a
really
good
way
very
strategically
and
creatively
rethink
what
is
now
a
very
single
purpose,
corridor
into
something
that
can
provide
great,
much
greater
utility
and
function
for
the
residents
of
Toronto
and,
of
course,
the
global
precedence
for
rail
deck
Park
are
there.
Many
of
you
may
have
visited
these
most
obvious.
Q
One
is
Millennium
Park
in
Chicago,
but
there
are
other
examples
right
across
United,
States
and
other
cities
where
the
imaginative
use
of
public
space
is
what
these
cities
are
dealing
with.
They
have
to
deal
more
creatively
with
open
space
because
it
is
so
difficult
and
it's
so
expensive
to
go
out
and
just
buy
land
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
John
as.
P
You
can
see
mr.
mayor
from
the
slide
we're
between
stage
gate,
one
stage:
gate
two
which
we'll
be
working
on
next
year
and
to
nineteen
we're.
We've
concluded
our
feasibility
and
we
believe
this
proposal
is
more
than
feasible
that
the
information
is
there
before
you
and
I'll
go
through.
Some
of
that
leads
to
that
conclusion,
and
we
want
to
lay
out
what
the
next
steps
for
development
concepts
are.
We've
already
completed
our
planning
study
and
draft
official
plan
amendment
that's
before
Toronto
East
York.
P
P
The
colors
indicate
the
length
of
the
spans
of
the
various
links
across
across
the
corridor
to
provide
the
support
for
the
park.
We've
been
working
with
WSP
Macmillan
architects
and
it's
highly
technical
in
nature
track
level.
Works
are
designed
to
minimize
impact
on
that
existing
rail
operations.
There
are
primary
and
secondary
support
structure
structures
which
will
be
columns
and
Gert
giant
girders
spanning
the
quarter
from
north
to
south.
P
They
arranged
in
depth
from
1.5
to
4.5
meters,
there's
major
mechanical
electrical
civil
engineering
systems
that
will
be
incorporated
a
technique
structure
to
support
the
park,
use
and
ensure
that
there's
quality
environment
below
the
deck
structure
for
the
rail
corridor,
and
although
it
involves
some
broad
assumptions
for
park,
use
we've
deliberately
not
done
the
detailed
design
work
on
the
park.
We
will
be
doing
that
in
the
next
stage.
P
Design
competition
will
be
undertaken
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
that
the
slab
for
the
decking
structure
is
supported
by
hundreds
of
giant
girders
around
ranging
in
these
depths
made
either
steel
or
precast
concrete,
concrete.
Here's
a
cross
section
I
want
to
just
make
a
real
point
understanding
the
elevation
issue
is
really
important.
This
is
probably
one
of
the
higher
parts
of
the
deck.
P
That's
benign,
it's
almost
level
in
other
proportions
as
I'm
usamos
level,
but
this
one
shows
you
the
Pope
that
stairs
that
would
be
required
to
go
up
and
then
across,
and
it's
also
important
to
note
that
this
structure
that
we've
looked
at
is
relatively
lightweight
in
comparison
to
any
structure.
You
would
have
to
build
if
you
were
to
support
buildings
and
the
columns
obviously
you're
a
much
narrower
for
this
deck
structure
than
they
would
be
for
any
structure
that
would
support
buildings
if
they
could
find
a
space
in
between
the
tracks.
P
So
we
think
it's
an
obvious
candidate
for
integration
with
Metro
links
and
we're
working
cooperative
and
have
this
as
a
first
stage
or
first
phase
of
the
proposal.
And
then
you
can
see
the
next
phase.
Here's
that
central
phase,
although
it's
not
absolutely
carved
in
stone,
there's
other
opportunities
say
for
the
area
east
of
Spadina
over
the
Blue
Jays
ways,
but
that
will
depend
on
the
financing
strategy.
With
that
we
develop
over
the
next
day
of
oil.
P
Okay,
here's
the
money
shot.
Here's
the
order
of
magnitude,
cost
estimates
for
the
21
acres.
The
deck
construction
itself
is
about
half
of
it
about
eight
hundred
and
forty
four
million
dollars.
Of
course,
this
is
a
class
for
estimate
and
it's
based
on
one
to
five
percent
designs,
so
there's
a
fair
swing
and
the
design
up
and
down
Park
construction,
ninety-five
million
dollars,
design
fees,
ninety-five
contingencies.
P
Here
we
have
two
hundred
thirty
three
hundred
and
thirty
three
hundred
twenty
seven
million
dollars
in
contingencies
for
design,
pricing,
construction
and
another
three
hundred
four
million
dollars
of
allowances.
So
we've
got
six
hundred
twenty
seven
to
seven
thirty
1
million
dollars
in
in
contingencies
and
allowances
here,
which
we
think
is
a
hefty
allowance.
We're
working
in
a
complicated
space.
Total
is
one
point,
six,
six
five
and
the
first
phase
can
be
done
roughly
four,
eight
hundred
and
seventy
million
dollars.
P
For
this
purpose,
local
improvement
charges
special
love
weeks,
we've
looked
at
and
we've
looked
at
also
value
capture
tools
and
we'll
be
looking
to
see.
If
there's
some
contributions
that
will
be
coming
from
the
commercial
interest
interests
who
benefit
from
the
quality
of
that
this
park
would
provide
in
their
area.
P
We're
specifically
going
to
proactively
engage
the
development
community
and
the
appropriate
use
of
DCs
section
42,
section
37,
any
other
value
capture
tools,
we'll
really
have
to
find
the
sweet
spot
that
meets
the
city's
need
for
additional
park,
land
and
other
services
and
a
growing
downtown
with
140
to
180,000
more
units
coming
to
2040.
One
I'll
say
that
again,
140,000
180,000
more
units
coming
into
the
downtown
to
2041
and
we
have
to
look
the
economics
of
the
bringing
those
units
to
market
in
an
orderly
way
with
the
development
community
section
42
review.
P
It
is
a
necessary
time
for
us
to
take
a
look
at
section
42
again
we
set
the
alternative
rate
in
2005
and
actually
started
collecting
a
little
bit
later
than
that
under
the
current
policy,
the
alterna
is
set
by
the
provincial
maximum,
but
we'd
actually
don't
go
up
to
the
provincial
maximum.
We
actually
cap
the
rate
at
ten
percent
of
the
value
of
the
land.
That's
in
question,
so
we've
got
an
artificial
cap
at
10%.
We
don't
have
a
per
unit
charge
per
se.
P
We
were
going
to
use
existing
revenues
from
rail
debt.
Park
will
not
negatively
impact,
will
not
negatively
impact
funding
available
to
other
park.
My
priorities
across
the
city,
that's
the
rule
of
terms
of
engagement
and
any
new
revenues
identified
as
part
of
the
strategy
will
benefit
both
rail
deck
park
and
other
park
line
priorities
across
the
city.
I'll
say
that
one
more
time
any
revenues
identified
as
part
of
the
strategy
will
benefit
both
rail
deck
park
and
other
park
down
priorities
across
the
city,
and
we
believe
that
the
rail
deck
part
can
be
phased.
P
So
the
next
steps,
mr.
mayor,
is
to
adopt
a
space
to
work
plan
in
2018
2019,
with
a
focus
on
the
following
areas:
the
technical
issues,
the
capital
coordination
with
Metro
links,
the
financial
strategy
that
we've
laid
out
in
the
report
with
the
principals
to
be
adhere
to
realistic
work
to
secure
the
necessary
properties,
including
the
air
rights
long
in
the
rare
in
the
rail
corridor.
An
additional
public
engagement
on
the
design
of
the
park,
glimmering
program,
development
for
the
park,
fundraising
strategy,
evaluation
of
governance
officer
options
for
long-term
operations
and
maintenance.
A
You
very
much
to
mr.
winter
mr.
Libi
and
your
team
I'm
gonna
suggest
we
follow
a
pattern
that
we
followed
before,
which
is
to
hear
the
decadence
there's
only
two
and
then
we
can
have
the
panel
come
back
here
and
answer
questions,
but
we'll
be
in
full
possession
of
all
the
comments
that
we've
got
from
the
public
and
from
and
from
our
staff
on
the
report.
If
that's
agreeable
to
everybody,
and
so
on
that
note,
I'll
ask
mr.
Wilson
Hamish
Wilson
to
come
forward
and
offer
his
deputation.
H
H
We
were
thoroughly
sold
out
because
we
really
don't
have
that
large
or
linear
park
space
yet
and
so
I'm
agnostic,
as
well
as
whether
or
not
it
should
be
built
over
for
housing,
because
we
need
more
housing,
even
though
there's
a
lot
being
being
built
but
I'm,
especially
anxious
about
continuing
a
process
of
sellout
and
failure
to
prove
you
know
we're
we're.
We
need
more
transit.
If
we
build
on
this
linear
corridor,
that's
city-owned
from
Bathurst
to
Spadina
I
think
we're
failing
the
future
again
and
we've
been
doing
it
for
a
while.
H
We
need
to
build
more
transit.
We
need
to
have
relief
for
king
relief
for
Queen
relief
for
goal
relief
for
the
Bloor.
We
relief
for
the
Gardner
relief
for
the
lakeshore.
Your
only
way
we're
going
to
do
that
is
to
build
more
effective
transit,
not
milk,
run
transit
along
the
lakefront
that
services,
the
linear
destinations
of
the
lakefront
but
direct
into
the
core
transit-
and
this
is
what's
inspiring
me-
this
1985
wesa.
H
You
know
the
the
downtown
relief
line
and
its
fullness,
not
just
this
small
little
bit.
That's
purported
as
a
relief
line
now,
but
the
full
thing
and
I
honestly
think
that
we
need
the
West
End
more
than
we
do.
The
the
East
because
of
the
RER
and
smart
track
and
potential
for
actually
exploring
different
surface
options
include
using
the
gardener
and
the
the
or
not
the
garden
of
the
Don
Valley.
So
this
this
particular
section
we
need
the
width
if
land
is
precious
for
parts
is
even
more
precious
for
linear
corridors
for
transit.
H
That's
what
we
need!
It's
easy
to
reverse
a
reversibility
here,
because
there's
a
loop,
we
can
send
the
vehicles
back
by
king
and
queen.
So
that's!
What's
really
bothering
me,
we
have
to
keep
our
options
open
for
transit
and
I
think
we're
shutting
them
close
to
gain,
which
is
really
unfortunate
once
again,
because
it's
the
cars
that
are
causing
the
transit
by
the
way
mr.
Gardner
said.
Oh,
there
is
no
mystery
about
what
has
caused
the
problem.
H
A
D
Hello:
everyone,
my
name,
is
Mitch
Gascoigne
I'm,
the
vice
president
of
development
for
Centre,
Court
and
I'm
here
to
offer
my
support
for
the
rail
deck
park.
Centre
Court
is
a
leading
high-rise
residential
developer
in
the
city
Toronto,
and
we're
currently
one
of
the
most
active
developers
in
the
city
with
5,000
homes
in
1.5
billion
dollars
of
development
in
process
or
recently
completed
as
a
leading
developer
in
the
city.
D
We
not
only
take
pride
in
the
positive
impact
that
our
developments
have
on
the
owners
in
the
greater
community,
but
we
also
strive
to
actively
and
invest
and
participate
in
positive
initiatives
within
the
city,
we're
incredibly
impressed
with
the
vision
for
rail
direct
Park
and
wants
our
land
our
full
support
behind
this
incredible
project.
The
rail
deck
park
project
represents
a
bold
and
creative
solution
to
the
many
challenges
of
city
building
and
a
solution
to
managing
the
rapid
development
of
our
city.
D
D
We
currently
pay
cash
and
loot
at
parkland
and
a
lot
of
times
we're
paying
between
3
and
5
million
dollars
per
project,
and
we
never
see
where
that
money
goes
and
for
us
this
is
a
fantastic
use
of
those
funds
in
an
a
large-scale
solution,
such
as
rail
deck,
based
on
Toronto's
astounding
pace
of
growth,
we
see
a
strong
need
for
improvement,
an
investment
in
the
city's
public
realm
and
park
space
as
a
forward-thinking
company.
We
are
excited
to
offer
our
full
support
for
this
proposal.
D
A
N
You
mr.
mayor
I'll
direct
this
to
our
deputy
city
manager
Minister.
It's
part
of
the
development
of
this
report.
I
understand
that
city
staff
partnered
with
build
to
do
an
analysis
of
the
structural
and
technical
viability
of
this
project.
What
is
the
outcome
of
that?
And
can
it
work
alongside
a
rail
corridor
running
below
so.
P
Mr.
mayor,
we
did
a
detailed
engineering
and
architectural
study
of
the
structure
that
would
be
required
to
put
the
deck
in
place.
Our
consultants
of
showed
the
feasibility
of
this
and
technical
terms.
We've
had
extensive
discussions
with
the
rail
companies
and
others
to
make
sure
that
we
can
an
active
rail
corridor
placed
the
columns
where
we've
suggested
we'll
continue
to
have
active
discussions
with
them.
I.
N
N
N
All
right,
the
the
funding
strategy,
which
the
detailed
funding
strategy
is
being
identified
as
moving
into
the
next
phase
of
this
project.
But
the
principle
I've
heard
you
speak
to
in
your
presentation
is
the
growth
pace
for
growth,
as
it
relates
to
section
42
and
the
principle
of
parkland
growth
paying
for
parkland
growth.
Are
we
under
collecting
in
section
42
as
a
city.
P
N
P
N
D
P
N
P
D
D
D
P
D
J
Okay
and
it
in
first
there,
there
already
is
a
new
methodology
for
looking
at
the
Parkland
demand
in
the
city
where
where's
Janey
I
hear
her
voice
from
here.
Councillor
Burnside,
okay,
I,
move
over.
R
To
you,
mr.
Mira
there's
a
draft
methodology
that
is
outlined
in
this
phase.
One
of
the
report
that
looks
at
a
more
finite
approach
around
how
we
assess
parkland
provision
across
the
city
we'll
be
using
this
draft
methodology
in
Phase
two
to
come
up
with
the
conclusions
around
how
it
should
be
applied
across
the
city
and
the
new
approach
around
parkland
provision,
and
that.
R
R
Elaborates
on
the
parkland
deficiencies
that
we
have
across
the
city
and
updates
it
with
you
know
the
updated
population
data
as
well,
so
we're
we
know
there
have
been
parkland
deficiencies
is
more
more
even
acute
from
the
update
that
they're
doing
in
the
report.
The
methodology,
the
biggest
change
in
the
methodology
that
they're
proposing,
looks
at
more
finite
census
dissemination
cells-
if
you
get
connected
to
it
rather
than
the
old
elpac
provision,
which
we
are
using
big
areas,
that
big
areas
that's
correct.
R
So
it's
it's
smaller
areas
and
instead
of
using
the
you
know,
if
you
would
say
as
the
crow
flies
approach,
it
looks
at
connectivity
within
a
5
to
10
minute
walking
distance
within
that
smaller
provision,
so
I
would
I
would
suggest,
through
this
report,
that
it
creates
a
much
more
walkable
connection
based
approach
to
looking
at
where
parkland
is
needed
and
is
accessible
throughout
the
city,
and
then
there
will
be
an
investment
strategy
so
through
mr.
mayor.
R
The
the
parkland
strategy
is
is
a
requirement
under
the
Planning
Act,
certainly
to
be
part
of
the
official
plan.
So
the
investment
strategy
would
be
the
same
as
the
approach
that
we
use
now
in
collecting
parkland
revenue
through
our
acquisition
reserves
and
then,
through
the
planning
process,
in
collaboration
with
planning
as
parcels
become
available.
We
would
then
assess
them
the
same
way
we
do
now
and
look
to
those
reserves
around
the
affordability
that.
Q
You
mr.
mayor
I,
just
might
add
that
certainly
in
high
growth
areas
will
be
a
focus
as
we
go
through
studies
in
Yonge
and
Eglinton
downtown
the
centers
and
the
avenues,
knowing
that
more
people
are
arriving
in
those
areas,
with
a
focus
on
an
updated
parkland
strategy
strategies
and
looking
very
opportunistically
at
those
opportunities
in
those
study
areas
to
achieve
new
parks.
A
S
S
S
S
Q
To
you,
mr.
mayor,
we're
certainly
advancing
where
we
can
on
site
parkland
dedication,
the
issue
that
we're
having
is
increasingly
developments
occurring
on
smaller
and
smaller
sites
and
the
appropriateness
of
taking
smaller
and
smaller
parks
gets
called
into
question
so
at
some
point,
certainly
we're
seeing
it
in
Yonge
and
Eglinton
and
others
and
other
centers.
Q
We
know
in
the
downtown,
for
example,
that
ninety
percent
of
the
sites
are
less
than
one
hectare
in
size,
so
the
ability
to
take
a
good,
functional,
open
space
for
parks
purposes
is
increasingly
limited
and
it's
why
we're?
Turning
to
other
other
ideas
for
assembling
catch
and
LU
funds,
it's
more
strategically
in
growth
areas
to
develop
parks.
S
Now,
when
it
comes
to
securing
section
42
or
cash
in
lieu
from
downtown
developments,
often
those
funds
are
previously
allocated
to
other
projects
in
in
the
downtown
core,
as
they
are
across
the
city.
Are
we
counting
dollars
twice
here
where
we
might
be
expecting
certain
dollars
for
the
rail
tech
park
but
in
fact
the
local
councillor?
It
has
other
Park
capital
plans
underway
and
that's
when
you
start
digging
deep
that
a
few
years
before
he
had
already
or
she
had
already
pledged
those
funds
to
to
another
project,
so.
R
Three
mister
mayor
we
aren't
recommending,
through
this
report
or
any
report
coming
forward,
as
mr.
Libby
has
indicated
any
changes
to
the
existing
as
we
call
first
five
percent,
which
is
the
reserve
funds
that
we
have
that
are
allocated
through
our
10
year
capital
plan.
So
there
is
no
changes
to
the
allocation
of
those
funds
that
suggested
what
we
are
suggesting
through
changes
to
section
42.
The
alternate
rate
would
suggest
some
different
spending
patterns
that
would
have
to
be
spent
locally.
S
One
of
the
arguments
for
this
project
advanced
by
downtown
councillors,
is
that
there's
Park
deficiency
in
the
downtown
core,
and
certainly
when
you
walk
around
you
can
see
that
but
they're
not
really
counting
our
waterfront
as
a
park.
Yet
in
fact,
waterfront
property
is
run
by
the
parks
department
and
many
do
consider
it
a
park.
Is
that
is.
Is
that
a
correct
assumption?
Are
we,
including
the
waterfront
when
we
properly
calculate
parking.
R
In
the
park,
land
provision
analysis
that's
been
conducted,
we
do
use
the
waterfront
parks
as
part
of
the
parkland
analysis.
The
only
part
that
is
not
considered
a
part
of
that
analysis
is
the
Toronto
Island
Park,
and
that's
because
of
the
accessibility
on
a
ferry
boat
rather
than
you
know,
a
walkable
or
sort
of
public
transit
accessibility.
So.
A
C
P
The
emphasis
has
been
on
growth
related
strategy,
so
we're
looking
at
growth
related
tools.
We
do
think
that
there's
some
contributions
that
can
be
made
by
businesses
or
others
that
might
be
interested
in
supporting
the
concept
we've
had
recent
indications
from
the
Blue
Jays
they're
interested
in
assisting
us
in
seeing
the
park
realized,
but
the
primary
object
is
to
have
growth
pay
for
growth,
so.
C
C
At
this
point
now,
I'm
totally
2012-2016
when
City
Council
adopted
a
rail
deck
park
in
the
official
plan,
an
implementation
strategy,
there
was
a
motion
that
either
is
conserve,
allow
for
myself
put
it
forward
and
he
had
to
do
with
with
the
Green
Line
implementation
strategy
along
the
Hydra
lands.
What's
happening
with
that
part
of
the
report,
why
that
part
is
not
anywhere
autism,
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
missing
it.
If
I
am
please.
Q
The
the
the
idea
is
very
much
in
our
minds
eye
with
the
conceptualization
of
the
rail
duck
Park
to
date,
as
I
explained
in
our
in
our
presentation.
Mr.
mayor,
the
the
idea
of
improving
connectivity,
east
and
west,
which
includes
attaching
to
open
space
systems
and
and
bike
networks
to
the
west
through
the
western
or
ello
path,
you
can
see
from
our
presentation
material,
a
reference
as
well
in
Northwest
to
the
Green
Line,
actually
through
tea
oak
or
in
the
entire
parks
in
public
realm
strategy.
Q
C
Section
of
thank
you
is
a
tional
were
17
were
18
is
part
of
the
downtown
and
that's
part
of
they,
and
we
are
part
and
efficient
and
that's
being
acknowledged
by
council
and
also
in
your
slide
number
seven,
the
representation.
So
it's
I'm
just
wondering
why
are
we
just
being
left
behind
all
their
things
in
this
area?
C
Q
Please
you
know
I
think
the
the
plan
that
we
produce
so
far.
The
draft
downtown
plan
looks
at
the
downtown,
but
also
builds
up
the
connectivity
of
the
downtown
parks
and
public
realm
plan,
two
adjacent
areas-
north
west
and
east,
and
to
those
developing
networks,
a
public
space
including
the
Green
Line
and
the
West
Toronto
rail
path.
That.
E
Thank
you
three
or
Meritor
II
mr.
Lybian,
in
the
slide
deck
had
mentioned
title
search
and
are
there
any
issues
around
that
or
have
they
all
been
dealt
with?
I
know
there
are
some
concerns
or
there's
some
musings
in
the
media
that
different
developers
already
owned
air
rights
over
that
area
or
had
an
agreement
to
buy
them.
So.
P
Mr.
mayor,
we
have
an
application
submitted
by
an
agent
for
the
TTR
as
a
company
that
presumably
has
some
sort
of
conditional
offer
of
purchase
and
sale.
We've
not
been
able
to
see
that
offer
a
purchase
and
sale.
So
we
don't
know
the
terms
and
conditions
that
they
purported,
that
they
are
about
to
acquire
air
rights
and
I
would
just
say
that
air
rights
are,
you
know,
are
fundamentally
different
than
free
and
unencumbered
land
in
the
downtown.
P
P
E
P
E
And
okay,
thank
you
and
then
I
had
a
question
for
I
guess:
Jane
in
Rome
off
or
one
of
your
staff.
I
was
around
the
up
to
be
in
the
presentation
where
I
talked
about
the
amount
of
park
space
that
the
average
person
needed
or
the
needed
and
ten
point.
Eight
meters
and
twenty
eight
meters
squared
is
that
a
I
guess
an
industry
average
or
that's
something
that
we
determined
at
the
city,
that's
appropriate!
Is
it
best
practice
or
how?
How
do
we
get
at
those
numbers.
R
Through
mr.
mirror,
there's
no
such
thing
as
an
industry
average
per
se.
Our
consultants
have
done
a
lot
of
work
reaching
out
to
other
large
urban
centers
to
see
how
Toronto
compares
when
it
comes
to
square
meters
per
person,
which
is
a
measurement
that's
used
quite
commonly.
So
as
if
you
looked
at
slide
six,
it
does
speak
to
the
average
28
square
meters
per
person
and
then
10
square
meters
per
person
in
the
downtown
study
area,
which
is
quite
different.
R
If
you
look
at
comparisons
across
large
North
American
urban
centers,
especially
in
high-density
areas
such
as
downtown,
it
does
speak
to
Vancouver
being
a
comparable
amount
of
parkland
square
meters
per
person.
But
you
know
comparing
to
cities
like
New,
York,
Chicago
and
Houston.
We
have
significant
significantly
less
amount
of
parkland,
especially
in
the
highest
density
areas
of
the
city.
So
the
work
does
point
out
that
Toronto,
specifically
in
highly
dense
areas
such
as
the
downtown,
does
not
compare
favorably
to
other
large
urban
centers
from
the
Parkland
provision
respective.
Thank.
T
You
I'm
gonna,
ask
staff
to
bear
with
me
because
I
have
questions
to
the
go
all
over
the
place.
So
what
is
your
definition
of
the
downtown
for
the
purpose
of
the
collection
of
section
42?
Is
it
Bathurst
the
East
like
the
downtown
core
teal
core
boundaries?
Yes,
that's
correct!
Okay,
thank
you.
You
gave
us
an
example
of
the
section
42
for
a
building
of
two
hundred
and
something
units
and
another
one
of
500
units.
Can
you
give
us
an
example,
for
example,
a
homeowner
that
is
doing
a
triplex.
R
F
D
Would
be
based
on
the
value
of
the
land,
so
you
would
basically
look
at
the
size
of
the
parcel,
and
then
you
would
look
at
the
amount
that
the
triplex
the
density
of
the
triplex
and
then
you
would
basically
determine
the
value
of
the
land,
and
then
that
would
be
that
so
it
wouldn't,
it
wouldn't
be
it
of
the
at
the
same
level
that
we've
indicated
in
the
example
in
the
report.
We.
T
Think,
there's
there's
something
your
aside
from
this
issue.
I
just
had
somebody
coming
and
saying
that
for
a
triplex
they
had
in
DC's
in
part
levies,
they
were
asked
$100,000
from
the
city
of
Toronto
huge
disincentive
to
do
anything
as
a
homeowner
and
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
get
some
numbers
from
you
because
I
think
there's
another
issue
that
we
might
need
to
deal
with.
With
this.
With
this
section
42,
you
said
that
you
are
gonna,
ensure
that
the
distribution
happens
to
the
rail
deck
and
to
the
other
areas
that
need
green
space.
P
Mehra
in
the
report
we
were
took
great
pains
and
you'll
see
in
the
recommendation.
You
say
that
future
revenues
will
benefit
all
parts
of
the
city,
including
rail
deck.
There
won't
be
an
either/or
and,
in
particular,
we're
going
to
focus
on
those
areas
that
are
parkland
deficient,
where
there's
clearly
additional
need,
that's
going
to
be
required,
and
also
in
consideration
of
the
future
growth
that
we're
getting
and
that's
factored
in.
But
that
is
the
condition.
That's
the
terms
of
engagement
for
this
moving
forward.
T
The
last
time
this
report
was
put
into
place,
as
counsel
Palacio
said
we
had
requested.
There
was
a
motion
put
in
to
have
this
report
coming
back
to
Council
in
2017,
with
the
Green
Line
and
the
rail
deck
opportunities
for
connections,
including
feasibility
and
funding
options.
These
projects
have
been
in
our
books
for
decades.
T
R
Mr.
mayor
I
think
this
is
work
that
is
on
our
agenda.
We've
been
focusing
on
this
phase,
one
of
the
rail
deck
Park
as
a
first
priority,
I
think
when
we
report
back
with
the
next
phase
of
this,
we
can
certainly
move
to
some
more
detailed
work
on
that
once
we
solidify
some
of
the
partnerships
and
lease
agreements
with
the
various
partners
that
are
involved,
so
it
isn't
a
project
that
we're
not
working
on
it
all,
but
we
haven't
gotten
it
to
that
level
of
detail.
Yet
I
was.
A
B
P
B
P
P
The
site
that
I'm
sorry
unencumbered
under
encumbered
land
is
somewhere
between
95
and
110
million
dollars,
an
acre
which
is
in
the
downtown,
we're
finding
out
on
a
ongoing
basis.
We
have
real
live
examples
of
that.
It
also
includes
a
whole
bunch
of
things
around
contamination
cleaning
up
those
sites,
but
that's
that's
what
we
do
on
on
those
land
on
those
lands
difficult
to
find
rail
deck
park.
P
B
You
go
our
er
station,
integral
integration.
Working
with
Metrolinx
can't
be
easy
and
no
disrespect
to
Metrolinx,
but
it's
a
very
technical
amount
of
work.
What
resources
are
we
going
to
be
using
to
try
and
work
through
the
technical
problems
of
building
a
park
or
a
deck
over
the
train
station
and
be
able
to
convince
them
to
allow
us
to
do
that
in
that
first
face
so.
P
Mr.
mayor,
our
existing
budget
provides
us
with
engineering
and
technical
expertise,
we're
also
asking
for
support
in
that
previous
report
on
smart
track
for
the
RER
program.
We
believe
we'll
have
enough
technical
expertise
to
bring
to
the
table,
and
certainly
the
work
we've
done
to
date
informs
our
work,
and
it
becomes
very
obvious
that
the
rail
deck
opportunity
over
the
Metrolink
Spadina
station
is
an
obvious
first
phase
for
us.
So.
B
I
have
the
same
question
when
it
comes
back
to
both
the
parks
plan
and
section
42,
which
is
the
type
of
consultation
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
with
the
folks
that
are
in
the
industry
and
actually
build
the
housing
to
make
sure
that
the
impact
of
our
decisions
still
allow
us
to
create
affordable
housing,
yet
get
a
fair
amount
and
a
fair
contribution
towards
a
need
for
parkland
and
to
discuss
with
them
and
understand
with
them,
and
they
understand
us
what
we
need
and
what
they
need.
So
there's
that
partnership
as
we
go
forward.
P
Mayor
those
are
those
sediments
that
you've
just
expressed
sword
indeed,
ones
that
we
share
a
staff.
We've
got
to
look
at
the
suite
of
tools
that
we
have
adapt
and
talk
to
them
about
what
is
appropriate.
What
is
not
appropriate,
where
the
price
points
on
their
pro
forma
are.
What
are
our
price
points
on
developing
in
the
downtown
R
and
we're
gonna
have
to
see
that
the
full
suite
of
tools
are
used,
including
our
and
in
develop
and
review,
to
see
we
can
improve
timelines,
because
that
time
is
time
is
money.
So.
B
A
E
P
E
P
F
You
very
much
so
through
you,
mr.
mayor.
It
was
mentioned
in
the
presentation
that
this-
and
you
often
don't
hear
this,
but
it
was.
It
was
mentioned
today
that
this
strategy
for
real
dec
Park
this
this
plan
is
in
accordance
with
our
environmental
and
our
resiliency
goals
of
the
city
and
I
just
wondered
if
anyone
could
elaborate
on
that
beautiful
phrase.
D
F
D
Through
you,
through
you,
mr.
mayor,
we
were
looking
at
basically
making
sure
that
there's
significant
tree
canopy
in
the
area,
we
would
be
optimizing.
The
wet
weather
flow
and
looking
at
naturalized
areas,
there's
been
some
really
interesting
examples
in
Millennium,
Park
and
even
some
of
the
newer
parks,
because
millennium
is
actually
a
bit
dated.
So
there
is
new
technologies
that
we
would
be
looking
at
in
terms
of
stormwater
runoff.
Also.
Q
F
R
D
F
R
R
A
N
Well,
thank
you,
mr.
Marin.
Let
me
begin
by
thanking
our
staff
across
departments
for
all
their
exceptional
work,
as
well
as
you,
mr.
mayor.
This
is
a
project
that
I
think
speaks
to
leadership
and
vision
in
a
city
in
planning
for
a
city
for
tomorrow
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
Great
cities
do
invest
in
their
future.
N
That's
what
great
cities
do
great
cities
plan
for
50
years
from
now
25
years
from
now
not
today
and
rail
deck
park
is
such
a
moment
it
about
the
future
and
just
as
we
need
for
our
future,
to
invest
in
affordable
housing
and
transit.
So
too
must
we
invest
in
social
infrastructure
to
make
everything
livable.
These
are
not
nice
to
haves.
N
Rather,
they
are
part
of
the
essential
mix
for
a
great
city
like
ours,
for
our
local
community
in
downtown
a
community
that
is
doubled
in
population
in
15
years
and
will
double
again
in
population
in
the
next
25
to
a
half,
a
million
people
and
a
community
that
is
already
the
most
parks
deficient
area
in
the
entire
city.
Rail
deck
park
is
indeed
critical
and
necessary
for
livability
I.
Think
that
is
is
clearly
understood
simply
by
the
numbers,
but
this
is
not
about
downtown.
This
is
about
a
citywide
project
for
the
future.
N
N
It
is
toronto,
CN
tower
and
that's
what
rail
dec
park
is
about
in
new
york
city
when
they
opened
the
High
Line,
it
became
and
is
today
the
second
most
popular
destination
in
all
of
New
York
after
the
Empire
State
Building
after
Chicago
built
Millennium
Park
a
similar
project
to
this
it
quickly
became
and
is
today
the
sixth
most
popular
destination
in
the
entire
United
States.
Neither
of
those
are
beside
a
ballpark
or
a
CN
Tower.
The
opportunity
here
is
to
invest
in
our
collective
future.
Is
there
a
big
cost?
N
That's
been
identified,
you
bet,
but
the
principal
here
as
our
deputy
city
manager
is
outlined,
is
that
growth
will
and
should
pay
for
growth.
That
is
how
you
build
a
city
and
if
we
are
under
collecting
in
our
park
acquisition
funds
today,
through
section
42,
as
we've
heard,
then
we
must
increase
them
and
by
increasing
the
rates
not
only
do
we
help
to
build
rail
deck
Park.
In
fact,
you
help
to
build
more
parks
across
the
entire
city.
N
N
A
F
You
very
much
and
I
think
we've
said
it
all
before
as
to
why
this
is
an
important
initiative
for
the
city
and
you
you
saw
it
in
the
first
few
slides
where
you
see
the
deficit
of
green
space,
downtown
and
I
wish
councillor
Pasternak
were
here
because,
if
he's
worried
about
green
space,
downtown
he's
counting
the
waterfront,
not
all
the
waterfront
is
green
space.
You
know,
there's
a
chunk
of
it.
That's
industrial,
so
I
mean
we'd,
be
happy
to
take
Earl
bales
downtown,
relocate
it,
but
that's
not
going
to
happen
so
I
just
you
know.
F
We
don't
want
to
be
divisive
with
this
fantastic
initiative
because
it
benefits
the
whole
city,
especially
revisiting
our
section
42
funding,
and
and
also
that
we
we
all
need
to
get
out
outside
of
our
wards
and
our
areas
and
encourage
our
residents
to
do
so
to
enjoy
Park
parkland
and
that
other
activities
but
green
space
in
other
areas
and
I
encourage
everyone
to
come
down
and
swim
in
our
beautiful
beach
in
the
summer
and
visit
our
winter
stations
in
the
beach
and
in
the
winter.
Because
this
is
your
city,
it's
not
the
ward.
F
F
A
E
It's
like
you
know,
councillor
I,
live
in
downtown,
Toronto
and
I
wish.
We
had
green
space
like
this
I
wish.
We
had
more
room
for
playgrounds
and
splash
pads
and
and
biking
facilities
and
trails
and
and
I
agree
with
them.
I
I
think
back
to
when
I,
when
I
was
first
elected
and
I
worked
here
previously
for
another
city
councillor
as
I
watched,
the
the
development
take
place
in
downtown
Toronto,
and
there
was
a
mindset,
then
that
people
were
gonna,
move
to
downtown
Toronto.
E
They
were
gonna,
buy
a
condo;
eventually
they
would
have
children
and
they
moved
to
the
suburbs,
and
we
reached
a
point
where
people
are
staying
downtown
there.
Large
inner
condos
I
know
people
that
have
the
children.
There
are
more
than
one
child
they're
in
a
two-bedroom
condominium.
Their
kids
are
in
bunk
beds
and
they
don't
have
any
green
space.
E
There's
there's
no
splash
pads
they're
coming
into
Scarborough,
which
I
appreciate,
but
then
I
hear
comments
from
other
people
that
coming
in
the
city
and
they
look
at
the
rail
lands
and
they
refer
to
it
as
a
trench.
I
had
somebody
recently
say
to
me:
you
know
it's
you've
got
a
big,
ditch
running
through
the
damn
middle
of
your
downtown
core,
with
railroad
tracks
and
I.
E
Think
this
project
covering
that
area
over
providing
green
space,
the
opportunities
you
know,
I,
look
at
Central
Park
in
New,
York
City
and
what
was
done
there
and
the
amenities
that
are
there
and
there's
a
tremendous
offer
opportunity
here
to
provide
those
amenities
that
people
looking
for
that
and
to
make
our
damn
core
downtown
core
space
and
even
more
livable
and
a
viable
area
than
it
already
is
and
I'll
be
supporting
the
recommendations
and
the
support.
Thank.
T
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
think
we
have
a
great
city
building
project
in
front
of
us.
There's
no
question
the
numbers
don't
lie
of
how
much
Park
deficiency
we
are
in
this
part
of
the
city,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
careful,
as
we
present
this
to
our
city,
because
again,
I've
seen
too
many
projects
that,
when
the
champions
are
no
longer
in
this
building,
the
project,
just
all
of
a
cert
and
of
a
sudden,
starts
dying
down
and
I.
Have
you
know
examples
over
and
over
again,
and
we?
T
What
we
need
to
do
is
that
the
city
continues
to
push.
Whoever
is
around
at
City
Hall
for
this
project.
This
this
needs
to
be
a
city
project.
People
need
to
feel
like
they
have
access
to
it.
It
doesn't
matter
if
they
live
in
the
West
End.
It
doesn't
matter
if
they
leave
in
the
East
and
it
doesn't
matter
if
they
live
in
the
downtown.
This
is
a
project
that
they
will
have
access
to.
That
will
improve
the
quality
of
life
and
I.
T
Haven't
yes,
the
quality
of
life,
and
for
that
is
so
is
the
reason
why
I'm
pushing
so
hard
for
the
projects
that
we
have
had
in
the
books
for
a
long
time
that
should
be
should
have
been
moving
a
lot
quicker
that
actually
connect
the
feed
right
into
this
park
where
people
from
the
West
End
at
the
north
of
the
city,
the
East
End,
can
actually
just
cycle
and
and
walk
and
run
and
use
it
as
a
parts
and
come
and
take
advantage
of
what
this
will
be.
A
great
city
building
park.
T
So
I
think
we
cannot
separate
these
projects.
We
need
to
bring
the
city
together
and
create
this
amazing
parking,
Park
Network,
and
for
that
we'd
not
only
need
the
rail
deck
park,
but
we
need
to
move
simultaneously
at
the
same
time
with
the
same
tools
on
these
other
projects.
So
that's
what
I'm
asking
that
that
it
happens
so,
the
next
time
we
have
this
project
in
front
of
us.
T
We
have
a
little
bit
more
work
done
by
our
staff
to
make
sure
that
we
have
projects
that
have
been
a
long
time
in
the
books
a
long
time
waiting
for
negotiations
with
Hydra
for
negotiations
with
Metrolinx
for
money
to
come
for
this
to
happen,
if
we're
at
the
table
with
Metrolinx
talking
about
real
deck
Park,
let's
make
sure
we're
talking
about
the
West
are
on
a
real
path.
If
we
need
to
talk
to
Hydra
about
rail
deck
Park,
let's
make
sure
we're
talking
about
Green
Line.
Let's
make
sure
we
create
this
with
Network.
A
Thank
You
viola
I
could
ask
a
question
of
the
mover
as
to
whether
there's
any
particular
information
you
have.
That
would
indicate
that
you're
worried
that
the
champion
for
rail
deck
Park
might
might
not
be
in
the
building
in
the
near
future.
But
I
won't
ask
that
question.
I
heard
that
and
I
was
immediately
kind
of
thinking.
Was
there
something.
T
A
R
A
A
F
One
councillor
bylaw
I
just
want
to
understand
because
I'm
having
struggles
as
a
councillor,
Matt
Lowen,
Carmichael
grabber,
having
struggles
at
Yonge
and
Eglinton,
because
there's
no
green
space,
in
fact,
there's
not
a
blade
of
grass
and
it's
getting
worse
so
I'm,
just
I'm
just
curious
about
your
motion.
I
didn't
know
it
was
coming.
Is
it
too
sure
these
things
happen
in
your
ward?
Do
these
somehow.
T
Connect
I'm,
not
fat,
the
Western,
a
rail
path
right
now
exists
in
my
word,
but
it's
it's
actually
meeting
councillor
Leighton
councillor
crises
word:
the
Green
Line
exists
in
councillor,
Palacios
word
in
my
word:
it's
kind
of
the
boundary
it's
gonna
go
all
the
way
to
counter
a
mat
low.
That's
the
point:
it's
actually
create
this
network.
One
is
East.
The
Green
Line
is
east-west.
T
The
West
Toronto
rail
path
is
supposed
to
move
north
also
to
counter
Annunziata
sward,
but
we
need
to
do
the
work
and
it's
been
on
the
on
the
books
for
a
long
time
to
expand
these
networks
to
expand
along
all
these
neighborhoods
in
these
areas,
so
that
the
Green
Line
could
eventually
get
to.
You
know
your
neck
of
the
woods
and
your
neighborhoods,
but
the
work
hasn't
been
done
and
what
we're
saying
here
is:
let's
do
this
work
so.
F
F
C
C
T
A
B
B
A
wonderful
project
that
was
discussed
a
number
of
years
ago
was
actually
thrown
out
by
one
of
the
folks
in
the
industry
back
in
2010
when
they
unveiled
doing
a
park
along
this
and
looked
at
doing
other
things
within
the
harbour
and
the
fact
that
now
it's
been
taken
by
council
and
championed
by
the
mayor
to
make
it
move
forward,
is
great.
I
asked
a
simple
question:
cost
per
acre
of
land
compared
to
cost
per
acre
to
create
a
park.
B
B
Now
you
come
down
to
the
train,
tracks
and
you're
stopped,
and
unless
you're
going
on
Spadina
or
about
the
street,
you
catch
the
bridge
in
the
middle
you're
stuck
and
you're
not
connected
to
be
able
to
connect
it
with
a
green
space
of
this
size,
and
this
realm
I
think,
is
something
that
we
really
do
need
in
a
downtown
for
those
that
are
living
there.
Those
that
are
working
there
and
those
that
are
going
to
be
moving
into
it
so
I
am
fully
supportive
with
the
project.
B
A
C
Thank
you
mr.
mayor
I'll,
be
very
brief,
will
definitely
support
kastlevilla
motion
as
well
in
principle,
I
do
support
creating
green
spaces,
recreational
space,
whatever
is
needed,
many
areas
that
are
gentrifying
that
can
be
downtown
and
areas
that
are
parkland,
efficient
and
I
think
that's
extremely
important
for
us
to
do
it
now.
There
is
no
question,
especially
with
the
well
with
a
vendek
Park.
There
is
no
question
about
the
benefits
that
will
bring.
C
F
The
challenges
at
Yonge
and
Eglinton
and
I
do
support
this
initiative,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
as
many
times
as
I
can
when
there's
a
microphone
involved.
I
want
to
make
sure
staff
are
aware
that
we
have
serious
problems
at
Yonge
and
Eglinton
with
a
lack
of
green
space
in
public
realm,
so
I
do
think
it's
on
staff's
radar.
Now
that's
the
good
news
and
while.
A
Council
Robin
thank
you,
may
I
have
your
concurrence
just
to
extend
for
two
or
three
minutes
past
the
12:20
we'd
agreed
upon
and
then
I
could
speak
and
I
think
we
can
call
the
question.
There's
only
one
motion:
I
think
all
those
in
favor
always
carry
yeah
I
just
say
this
I
I
really
think
this
boils
down
to
three
options
that
we
have
and
when
I
just
described
it.
This
way,
as
I
did
at
a
town
hall
meeting
in
councillor,
Menon
wrong,
deputy
Berman
and
Wong's
riding
and
I've
done
it
elsewhere.
A
Yesterday,
with
our
staff
at
Metro
Hall
in
a
town
hall
meeting
there
we
have
the
status
quo
and
the
status
quo
would
just
leave
a
rail
yard
there,
which,
frankly
it
wasn't
an
intended
scar
on
the
city,
was
a
useful
and
still
is
a
very
useful
transportation
corridor.
But
if
you
were
looking
today
and
saying
well,
would
you
put
a
rail
corridor
there
in
that
way
and
in
that
form,
of
course,
I
believe
you
would
say
absolutely
not,
but
you
have
the
status
quo,
you
could
leave
it
there.
It's
there.
A
You
have
a
second
option
which
not
without
oversimplifying
is
to
say:
let's
have
more
condo
towers.
There
may
be
some
office
towers
too
and
I
think
if
you
look
at
that
in
any
responsible
manner
and
sort
of
see
what
has
unfolded
in
terms
of
the
development
of
the
downtown
and
and
where
we
are
with
respect
to
a
park.
Land
you'd
probably
answer
that
no
as
well,
and
then
you
have
the
third
option.
A
That's
in
front
of
us,
which
is
an
iconic
resident,
magnet
it'll,
be
a
business
magnet
it'll,
be
a
tourist
magnet
it'll,
be
a
resident
magnet
from
across
the
city.
People
will
come
to
this
park
as
it
as
a
destination
and
I
think
we
have
to
ask
ourselves
the
question
of
what
will
the
people
of
Toronto
say
in
the
year?
That's
been
cited,
say
in
2041,
because
that's
where
some
of
these
population
estimates
have
been
have
been
projected
and
what
will
they
say
in
2041
across
the
rest
of
the
city?
A
If
we
just
put
up
more
condo
towers
there
or
if
there
is
still
god
forbid,
a
rail
corridor
there,
just
looking
the
way
it
looks
today
as
many
trains
as
may
be
passing
through
their
smart
direct
trains
and
all
kinds
of
other
train.
What
will
we
say
to
the
four
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
people
who
will
be
living
downtown
by
then
as
to
what
we
didn't
do
when
we
had
the
chance
back
in
two
thousand
and
seventeen
eighteen?
A
We
heard
the
answer
today
could
be
upwards
of
a
hundred
million
dollars
an
acre.
We
have
a
chance
here
to
do
something
that
you
don't
get
very
often,
which
is
actually
to
create
some
new
open
space.
Yeah
I
mean
you
know,
I
always
will
say
to
people
when
it
comes
to
buying
real
estate,
UK
they're,
not
creating
anymore.
So,
therefore,
the
prices
will
continue
to
rise
based
on
the
law
of
supply
and
demand.
A
Well,
this
actually
gives
us
a
chance
to
create
some
real
estate
for
a
very
good
public
purpose,
an
important
and
necessary
public
purpose
and
I.
Think
it's
before
there's
even
been
adequate
account
taken
and
I.
Don't
blame
the
stuff
I
want
to
thank
them
for
all
their
work,
but
I
think
this
city
has
huge
capacity
to
attract
philanthropic
support
for
this
park,
which
other
cities
have
proven.
I've
been
involved
for
years
before
I
came
to
this
office.
A
Raising
money
and
I
know
how
generous
the
people
are
in
the
city
and
confronted
with
a
great
project
like
this
they'll
support
it
and
so
I
think
we
owe
it
to
ourselves.
But
more
importantly,
we
owe
it
to
the
people
of
the
city
and
we
owe
it
to
the
generations
not
even
born
yet
to
move
forward
and
just
continue.