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Executive Committee, meeting 8, September 18, 2019 - Part 2 of 2
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B
C
The
answer
to
gun
violence
is
very
simple:
no
guns,
I!
Don't
understand
why
our
politicians
don't
have
the
courage
to
say
no
more,
no
firearms
are
loved
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
We
should
suspend
the
sales
of
guns
in
the
city,
so
it
would
take
some
kind
of
political
willingness
to
change
that
our
law
so
that
we
don't
have
to
invest
in
our
policing
of
our
communities
with
which
doesn't
resolve
the
problem.
It
does
only
provide
them
with
extra
overtime,
calls
more
expenditure
on
vehicles,
gas,
etc.
C
It's
a
promise
that
it
doesn't
address
the
whole
matter
because
the
root
of
the
problem,
as
you
are
aware,
mr.
John
Tory,
that
we
had
to
invest
in
our
communities,
why
it's
important
to
invest
in
our
communities,
because
that
the
ones
who
are
expecting
us
to
invest
in
good
jobs,
I'm
part
of
a
region
powerful
Valatie
session
in
and
we
are
working
to
ensure
that
phases.
Four
in
five,
we
have
a
community
benefits
agreement
in
place
so
that
we
can
secure
good
jobs
for
region
Park
residents.
C
So
what
happened
last
year?
Is
we
hired
200,
more
police
officers
to
patrol
our
streets
in
the
city
budget
of
2019,
I'm
being
graphical,
so
people
who
watch
the
YouTube
video
can
understand
so
$300,
that's
an
increase
in
the
police
budget,
and
that
is
the
reflection
that
taxpayers
had
to
carry
the
burden.
You
see
the
board,
you
see
the
breakdown
on
this
in
document
from
the
CBC
News
I
came
last
month
know
this
month.
Sorry
and
I
spoke
with
members
of
the
Budget
Committee
and
explain
to
them.
C
Why
don't
we
defer
some
of
the
money
that
goes
into
the
police
budget
for,
for
instance,
to
address
the
issue
that
autumn
of
the
absence
of
the
sorry,
the
cut
of
the
child
benefits
transition
for
refugees
and
immigrants
that
the
governor
the
governor
dug
for
is
caring.
So
you
say
something
very
true.
Mr.
mayor
today
we
are
the
damn
hole
of
all
that
decision-making
down
by
the
province
and
the
federal
government
on
September
the
21st
on
August
21st.
There
was
an
incident
in
which
a
young
man,
14
year-old
man,
was
brutalized
by
four
police
officers.
C
C
The
legal
cover
of
lawyers
for
those
police
officers
that
committed
this
crime
in
a
no
jerk
and
I,
don't
know
if,
in
this
room
we
have
counselors
that
are
in
that
live
in
that
word,
where
the
incident
happened.
Mr.
mayor
I
never
hear
you
saying
one
word
about
this
matter:
it
was
a
black
boy
that
was
senseless,
brutalized
by
Toronto
police
officers.
If
you
care
about
so
much,
and
you
see
that
the
border,
the
return,
the
police
services,
you
could
have
certainly
something
about
it.
C
C
That's
that's
the
message
today.
No
cops,
no
prison
finest
schools
in
last
panelists
I
want
to
tell
you
tomorrow,
at
the
police
at
the
Toronto
Police
Services
Board
I
will
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
Chris
laingen
film.
He
is
not
able
to
attend
the
board
meeting
because
of
his
opposition
to
the
search
and
bag
process
that
used
in
the
board
is
ring-ring,
reintegrating
in
in
the
lobby.
Toronto
Police,
Headquarters,
oh
I,
understand
chief
Pringle,
I'm,
sorry
see.
C
Chairman
Pringle
has
denied
us
the
right
to
speak
for
Chris,
so
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
going
to
speak
for
Chris,
because
he
really
brings
a
lot
of
good
information
to
the
board,
but
silence
his
voice
is
wrong.
So
if
you
have
any
convenience,
let
me
know
today
if
you
have
a
problem
allowing
me
or
direct
or
brand
that
to
speak
on
behalf
of
Chris
yeah.
That's
no
please
thank
you.
Thank.
D
Have
some
questions
I
just
want
to
say
about
me
speaking
at
this
meeting.
This
shall
not
be
deemed
to
be
in
any
way
my
consent
expressed
or
implied
in
doing
so
is
fraud
both
sir
Majesty,
the
Queen
and
long
live
her
Majesty
the
Queen
and
let
the
record
show
I
do
not
consent
to
the
unconstitutional
searches
violating
section
8
of
the
Constitution
Act
1982
that
are
currently
taking
place
here
at
Toronto,
City
Hall's.
The
province
is
never
given
the
City
of
Toronto
express
statutory
authority
to
do
this.
D
So
when
this
report
it
says
City
Council,
requests
the
city
manager
to
report
back
during
the
2020
budget
process
on
opportunities
for
partnerships
with
existing
agencies
to
fund
programs
and
services
that
address
the
root
of
violence
and
poverty
reduction.
So
seeing
this
I
thought
the
city
manager,
Chris
Mary
here
would
be
interested
in
knowing
how
the
royal
family
solved
poverty
for
themselves,
and
anyone
can
go
read
this
for
themselves.
It's
on
a
website
called
monarchist
dot,
org
dot,
uk',
slash
royal
finances,
information
about
the
royal
finances
in
1760,
King
George.
D
The
third
reached
an
agreement
with
the
government
over
the
Crown
Estate.
The
Crown
lands
would
be
managed
on
behalf
of
the
government,
and
the
surplus
revenue
would
go
to
the
Treasury
in
return,
the
king
would
receive
a
fixed
annual
payment,
which
we
today
called
the
Civil
List
since
the
1760s,
the
crown
has
surrendered
the
receipts
from
us
estates,
while
the
Crown
Estate
has
often
generated
two
hundred
and
ten
point:
seven
million
pounds
in
surplus
income.
D
All
of
its
revenues
have
been
today
being
paid
to
the
Treasury
as
directed
by
a
deal
reached
in
1760
by
King
George.
The
third
and
Parliament
simply
stated
Her
Majesty
is
limited
on
cash
spending
for
personal
needs,
so
in
order
to
have
cash
to
spend
on
their
personal
needs,
that's
what
they
had
to
do.
So
if
you
go
on
the
government
of
Canada's
website,
there's
a
page
called
charities
and
giving
glossary
and
they
have
a
definition
for
annuities
and
they
actually
explain
how
to
do
this.
For
everyone.
D
Charitable
gift
annuity
is
an
arrangement
under
which
a
donor
transfers
capital
think
of
the
security,
the
person
we
all
have
the
right
to
in
section
7
of
the
Constitution,
a
charitable
organisation
in
exchange
for
immediate
guaranteed
payments
for
life
at
a
specified
rate
depending
on
life
expectancy
or
for
a
fixed
term.
The
merit-
or
you
know,
being
a
member
of
the
police
board.
D
If
I
will
not
open
you
the
windows
of
heaven
and
pour
you
out
a
blessing
that
there
shall
not
be
room
enough
to
receive
it
and
in
1
Corinthians
16:14,
it
simply
says
let
all
your
things
be
done
with
charity.
You
know,
I
actually
sent
a
letter
by
registered
mail
is
actually
a
full
disclosure
notice
to
the
MP.
For
my
Aaron
Marko
mendocino
I
wrote
to
him
hi
Marco,
and
how
are
you
about?
D
This
I
require
full
disclosure
on
how
do
I
go
about
transferring
the
capital
of
the
security
the
person
I
have
back
to
the
crown
in
exchange
for
immediate
guaranteed
payments
for
life
as
King
George,
the
3rd
did
in
1760,
as
mentioned
on
the
government
of
Canada's
website
and
the
graphic
on
the
royal
family's
finances
below,
and
his
response
was
well
actually
I'm
still
waiting.
Yes,
it
gotten
back
to
me
on
that.
D
So
let
the
record
show,
though
the
same,
is
King
George,
the
3rd,
that
I
wish
to
gift
the
security
of
the
person
gifted
to
me,
initially
by
Her
Majesty,
in
exchange
for
the
immediate
guaranteed
annuity
payments
for
life
at
a
specified
rate
depending
on
life
expectancy
or
for
a
fixed
term.
As
mentioned
on
the
government
of
Canada's
charities
and
giving
glossary
page
I
just
want
to
slip
in
here.
I
want
to
thank
councillor
an
easily
for
his
kind
words.
At
the
end
of
a
presentation.
D
I
made
recently
a
general
government
think
it
was
the
one
where
I
explained:
sections
4,
40
and
4
57
of
the
bank
acts
say
that
a
bank
shall
not
charge
service
fees
and
a
hope.
Councillor
Ainsley
helps
spread
the
word
as
a
small
effort
to
help
reduce
poverty,
that
banks
are
just
stealing
money
from
us
and
calling
it
a
monthly
service
charge.
D
So
this
is
a
case
Keewatin
versus
Minister
of
Natural
Resources
2011
Superior
Court
of
Justice
were
mentioned
that
the
crown
asked
first
nations
to
share
their
lands
with
settlers
and
First
Nations
did
so
on
the
condition
that
they
would
retain
adequate
land
and
resources
to
ensure
the
well-being
of
their
nations
compensation.
Again.
The
security
of
person
in
section
7
of
constitute
was
offered
in
exchange
for
the
agreement
of
First
Nations
to
share.
First
nations
were
promised
compensation
in
the
form
of
annual
payments
or
annuities,
as
I
just
explained.
What
was
going
on
earlier.
D
Social
and
economic
benefits
and
the
continued
use
of
their
lands
and
resources
and
I
just
want
to
mention
that
at
the
first
TTC
Board
meeting
of
the
year
that
a
distinguished
former
Toronto
Police,
Services,
Board
Member
councillor,
Shelley
Carroll,
actually
nodded
or
had
an
acknowledgement.
What
I
mentioned
that
security?
The
person
is
not
safety,
it
it's
financial
in
nature,
so
love
you
councillor,
Carroll
thank.
B
You
very
much
for
those
comments
and
are
there
any
questions
of
the
deputy
okay,
then
we
would
move
on
to
questions
of
staff.
On
these
two
items
taken
together,
we
have
no
deputations
on
the
new.
The
newer
item,
which
is
number
26,
I.
Think
it's
26,
eight
point
two
six,
so
we
would
move
to
questions
of
staff
and
we
can
do
the
questions
on
both
items
taken
together.
So
councillor,
Carol,
I.
E
E
It's
sort
of
it
sort
of
hardly
partly
stems
from
from
the
Premier's
focus
at
the
announcement
of
these
funds
and
and
the
media
sort
of
picking
up
on
it.
But
there's
a
misconception
in
the
community
that
that
we're
about
to
spend
six
and
a
half
million
dollars
on
cameras
and
cameras
alone
that
that's
not
really
where
these
funds
will
will
end
up.
Visit.
E
F
E
E
A
F
F
F
A
F
It's
it's.
It's
really
all
becoming
part
of
our
new
neighborhood
officer
program.
We're
getting
officers
into
the
community.
Unfortunately,
don't
have
the
number
that
we
would
like
currently
to
to
devote
to
that
program,
but
part
of
that
neighborhood
officer
program
will
be
into
their
communities
into
the
schools
talking
to
people
establishing
relationships.
It's
all
part
of
our
new
neighborhood
officer
program
do.
A
F
I
think
we've
had
great
success
with
that
and
that
and
for
an
example,
I
would
use
the
pro
action
program
that
that
has
police
officers
working
with
kids
and
different
communities,
whether
it's
in
reading
programs
athletic
programs.
We
find
that
we
have
great
success
with
those
youth
and,
in
fact,
we've
had
officers.
I
just
heard
one
talking
about
it,
the
other
day
where
there
was
a
shooting
and
they're
calling
him
up
on
his
phone
and
giving
him
the
information
about
what
had
happened
and
that's
because
of
the
relationships
that
are
created
with
the
officers.
A
B
Questions
of
staff,
counselor
perks,
I
saw
you
there
and
I
move
very
quickly
to
members
of
the
committee,
but
oh
well.
Okay,
then,
no
comment,
no
comment
any
and
councillor
Cole
same
thing:
I
before
I
moved
off
the
visiting
members.
Did
you
have
any
questions
of
staff?
Meaning
police
are
okay?
Then
we
would
move
to
deputy
mayor
Thompson.
Thank.
F
There
it's
going
to
be
for
increased
officer
visibility
and
working
in
the
neighborhoods
and
increased
community
engagement.
Intelligence
collecting
will
be
enhancing
our
bail
compliance
checks
for
those
individuals
that
are
involved
in
gun
crime,
more
specialized
investigations,
so
we're
getting
the
right
people
focusing
on
the
investigations
and
we're
seeing
some
good
success
that
way
in
terms
of
solving
the
shootings,
since
we
put
that
in
place
right
project
community
space,
so.
H
F
H
F
H
Right
and
so
then,
with
respect
to
the
future,
how
will
the
city
and
I
guess
assess
politician
basically
measure
the
success?
Will
we
see
a
reduction
in
gun
activity?
Will
we
see
an
increase
in
information
that
you
have
to
help
you
to
I
guess
create
an
intervention
into
the
myths
of
some
of
the
gang
activities
and/or
the
users
of
gun?
Will
that
be
part
of
the
measurement
that
we'll
see
in
terms
of
success?
Yes,.
H
New
York
City
has
police
officers
stationed
here
in
Toronto.
Is
that
correct?
There
is
one
officers,
one
officer
right
and
what's
the
working
relationship
with
respect
to
that
one
officer
and
of
course,
in
New,
York
City
Police
Department
in
that
I
think
it's
our
view
that
a
lot
of
the
guns
that
are
coming
in
comes
from
the
u.s.
comes
to
our
border.
Are
there
sort
of
intelligent
component
part
that
you're
working
with
the
u.s.
police,
not
just
New
York
City,
but
by
extension,
Detroit
and
other
border
policing
agencies
and
so
on?
F
H
F
H
F
H
H
And
then
I
guess
my
final
question
I,
realizing
that
a
lot
of
the
young
persons
who
are
using
the
guns
don't
seem
to
have
the
means
to
cross
the
border,
to
get
the
guns
who
would
be
and
who
would
be
perhaps
an
entity
and
an
organization
that
do
you
think,
is
allowing
or
bringing
most
of
those
weapons
into
the
country,
because
it's
really
about
a
business.
But.
F
B
Drops
and
any
other
questions
I
have
a
few
and
device
one.
Everybody
else
had
their
chance.
Okay,
well,
deputy,
and
thank
you
very
much
again
for
being
here.
Could
I
just
go
through
the
three
areas
that
you
mentioned
in
response
to
a
couple
of
questions
today
and
just
confirm
that,
because
you
use
the
word,
will
and
of
course
my
understanding
is,
this
exercise
started
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
will
run
for
a
few
weeks.
B
Yet
so
can
you
confirm
that
there
have
been
increased
numbers
of
higher
visibility
patrols
in
selected,
neighborhoods
and
I
realize
you
may
not
be
able
to
say
how
many
neighborhoods,
because
but
I'm
trying
to
encourage
you
to
be
as
forthcoming
with
information
as
you
can
be
without
you
know,
giving
the
information
that's
going
to
benefit
the
bad
guys,
but
have
there
been
high
visibility
patrols?
And
if
so,
can
you
confirm
in
how
many
neighborhoods
that's
been
the
case
as
a
result
of
this
funding,
plus
the
funding
coming
via
the
government's
I
can't.
F
Give
you
the
the
number
mr.
mayor,
the
I,
can
tell
you.
There
has
been
increased
patrols,
not
to
the
extent
that
we
would
like,
because
we
just
haven't,
had
the
staff
to
even
on
the
call
back
basis
to
do
or
not
using
the
funding
on
the
uniform
side
to
the
extent
that
we've
been
allotted.
Certainly
on
the
investigative
side
we
are,
but
there
has
been
considerable
increased
uniform
patrols.
Okay,.
B
And
then
on
the
second
one,
which
is
more
I'll,
call
it
more
rigorous,
bail
compliance
inspections.
The
chief
explained
to
me
a
little
bit
about
how
that
was
gonna
work
when
I
asked
him
for
a
plan
to
try
and
help
with
the
situation
we
had
in
August
in
particular,
and
it
continues
to
some
extent
today.
Have
you
been
able
to
carry
out?
Have
there
been
increased
numbers
and
more
rigorous,
Bale
inspections,
baking
pies.
B
Just
since
you
made
allusion
to
that,
one
of
the
things
that
was
complained
about
from
the
media
to
me
this
morning
was
that
there
hadn't
yet
been
a
sort
of
public
accounting
and
I
made
the
point
that
you
you
have
to
pick
your
time
when
you
sort
of
are
gonna
report
on
how
these
things
have
gone.
But
is
it
the
case
that
at
some
point
you
might
be
able
to
sort
of
say?
B
B
Yes,
we
will
okay
and
then
the
third
I
realize
this
is
probably
the
one
about
which
you'll
be
able
to
say
the
least,
but
have
there
been
commenced
and
carried
out
and
are
there
being
carried
on
now
specialized
investigations,
more
rigorous
specialized
investigations
into
the
guns
and
gangs
area
that
related
to
the
violence
that
we've
been
seeing
in
the
city?
Has
that
been
made
possible
by
this
money?
Yes,.
B
Okay
and
in
that
regard,
I
again
I've
seen
some
of
the
information
publicly
about
arrests
that
have
been
made
in
firearms
that
have
been
seized
and
I
think
I'm
correct
in
saying
that
subsisting
this
period
of
time.
With
some
of
these
enhanced
resources,
we
have
been
seeing
increased
numbers
of
firearms
that
have
been
seized
and
that
I
assume
could
be
reported
on
at
some
stage,
not
too
long
from
now
and
to
account
to
the
public.
Yes,.
B
And
then
the
other
best
thing
I
want
to
ask
about
was
regional
cooperation.
This
sort
of
came
up
a
little
bit
indirectly
yesterday,
and
can
you
tell
us
you
know
what
your
assessment
is
of
the
degree
of
regional
cooperation
by
that
I
mean
cooperation
with
Peel
York,
OPP
RCMP,
facilitated
or
not
by
this
money,
but
is
there?
How
would
you
rank
the
level
of
cooperation
and
in
from
information
sharing
so
that
we
can
together,
take
on
this
this
problem
that
we
have
that.
B
F
B
E
You
so
the
the
item,
that's
before
you
went
through
budget
and
then
and
then
we're
considering
it
together
with
that
meritorious
report,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
while
staff
are
asked
to
report
at
City
Council,
there
will
be
a
motion.
It
will
seem
improbable,
but
there
will
already
be
a
written
notice
of
motion
before
you
moved
by
myself
and
and
Speaker
Nancy
atta,
that
that
recommends
the
program
that
they
will
likely
recommend
in
the
in
the
report
asked
for
here.
So
we
can,
we
can
support
both.
That's
that's
really.
E
An
accident
of
timing
is
what
it
is
it
would
otherwise.
This
would
have
probably
happened
all
at
budget,
but
the
mayor
was
sort
of
still
in
in
scooter
mode
and
in
recovery.
This,
oh,
that
may
be
a
big
part
of
it
and
in
your
budget
ad,
is,
is
extraordinary.
We
know
that,
but
we
we
had
an
extraordinary
year.
No
one
has
to
tell
me
that
adding
funds
in
year
is
a
big
deal.
E
You
know,
I
was
budget
chief
when
Lehman
Brothers
collapsed
and
there
was
a
taken
number
lying
at
my
door
from
every
councilor
saying.
Oh,
the
money's
gonna
disappear.
I
need
some
now
in
October,
and
that
is
not
the
time
to
start
throwing
the
money
around,
but
what's
happening
before
us
now.
What's
before,
you
in
this
committee
really
is
well
thought
out,
including
the
recommendation
that
from
meritorious
motion
the
deputes
you
know
despite
their
speeches,
they
know
that
I
place
a
critical
eye
on
police
service
at
all
times.
E
They
know
that,
but
I
actually
need
the
police
actions
that
will
be
funded
by
this
item.
That's
that's
why
you
see
speaker
Annunziata
and
I
doing
this.
We
need
neighborhood
officers
right
now.
I
have
a
complex
that
has
had
four
major
incidents
of
gunfire
in
less
than
12
months,
and
it's
I
believe
no
coincidence
that
18
months
ago,
their
neighborhood
officer
retired
and
has
been
gaped
ever
since
its.
It
said
that
it
happened
at
that
time,
but
I'm
a
terrified
community,
and
it's
not
the
only
one.
E
Many
of
us
do
in
this
room,
and
so
we
do
have
to
act
and
we
have
to
do
both
things
and
so
I
do
support
the
police
ad
I.
Need
it
this
time
and
I
and
I
ask
the
questions
a
budget
to
make
sure
that
it
is
strategic
it
is,
it
is
far
more
in-depth
in
the
way
it's
going
to
be
applied
than
the
premier,
let
on
in
his
announcement
of
his
funds.
That
being
said,
I'm
also
moving
the
motion,
because
I
strongly
believe
and
I
know
many
counselors
do
that
policing
alone
won't
do
it.
E
We
have
to
have
a
short-term
strategy
and
we
have
to
play
the
long
game,
and
so
the
work
was
done
with
staff
to
understand.
Out
of
all
those
things
we
asked
for
back
in
2018
the
first
time
the
federal
government
asked
us
what
other
than
policing
should
you
be
doing?
Stf
na
did
yeoman's
work
to
figure
out
the
best
possible
programming,
the
best
bang
for
the
buck,
to
do
the
types
of
things
that
councillor
Pasternak
was
asking
about
things
beyond
policing,
and
so
we
worked
with
them
and
so
rather
than
move
a
willy-nilly
motion.
E
E
We
had
a
violent
summer,
so
here's
some
one-time
money
from
another
order
of
government
we've
seeded
many
programs,
but
they're,
not
integrated
and
towards
pieces
about
taking
a
small
unit
of
staff
to
integrate
them
to
make
sure
that
youth
leaving
a
diversion
program
is
ending
up
where
he
should
go
next
and
that
the
people
in
the
community
know
that's
gonna
happen.
Those
are
the
types
of
things
that
come
out
of
the
recommendations
and
staff
make
because
they
are
the
experts
they're
on
the
ground
even
more
than
we
are
we're
there
to
hear
about
the
upset.
E
When
an
incident
has
happened,
they
really
are
trying
to
prevent
them
from
happening
in
the
first
place
with
their
programming,
and
so,
as
we
add
policing,
we
do
have
to
look
at
programming.
That's
why
meritorious
asking
for
it?
That's
why
Budget
Committee
did
the
work
of
considering
that
before
we
brought
recommendations
to
you,
and
so
when
we
meet
as
a
whole
council,
there
will
be
the
report
from
staff,
but
there
will
also
be
the
immediate
recommendations
so
that
in
this
extraordinary
time
we
can
make
an
extraordinary
in
your
budget
ad.
E
That
will
immediately
start
to
address
the
problems
that
that
concern
and
zyada
wants
to
address
with
her
children
and
youth
and
I
want
to
address
with
mine
and
all
the
rest
of
you
want
to
address
with
children
and
youth
who
are
at
risk
right.
This
very
minute
of
being
recruited
into
gangs
and
gun
violence,
Thank
You
mr.
chair
Thank,.
I
Yes,
I
certainly
support
the
in
your
increase
in
funding
and
the
way
that's
going
to
be
allocated
and
the
fact
it's
looking
at
the
obvious
core
causes
of
our
violence
and
also
the
immediate
policing
needs
so
I
think
it's
a
very
smart
way
to
approach
it.
I
just
want
to
just
put
a
few
things
on
the
record.
I
I
just
think
that
since
March
of
this
year,
I've
been
working
with
the
police
of
13
division
very
closely.
We
got
word
in
March
that
there
was
going
to
be
heavy
duty
activity
coming
on
board
and
since
March
they've
deployed
extra
police,
seeing
on
the
ground
and
my
ward
and
also
the
police
officer,
the
32
division
did
the
same
thing
and
they
are
really
experienced
smart
people
and
so
they've
been
on
the
ground
since
March,
despite
being
on
the
ground
at
unprecedented
numbers,
we've
never
had
so
much
violence
and
gun
activity
in
all
my
years.
I
I've
never
seen
it
this
bad,
it's
really
unprecedented
and
that's
what
frustrates
my
local
police
and
also
frustrates
me
in
the
community
is
that,
despite
all
this
extra
police
presence,
we've
already
had
the
the
shooting
continues.
You
know
we
just
had
another
one,
the
other
day,
the
other
night,
and
it's
not
just
in
one
neighborhood.
It's
it's
happening
about
four
or
five
neighborhoods
in
my
writing.
I'm
in
my
ward,
I've
never
had
it
that
bad
and
you
know,
what's
really
annoying,
is
when
I
hear
people-
and
you
know
we're
all
it's
blamed
for
this.
I
I
It's
the
mob!
It's
the
Jamaicans,
it's
the
Vietnamese,
so
they
don't
worry
about
it's
just
them
shooting
each
other,
and
that
is
really
one
of
the
core
issues
we've
got
to
address.
This
is
not
about
anyone
group
or
one
area
or
then,
when
I
heard
that
idiotic
comment
last
night
from
the
mayor
of
Brampton.
Talking
about
you
know
the
four
one
six
gangs
coming
up
to
Brampton:
that's
the
kind
of
mentality
that
is
really,
as
you
said,
mr.
mayor
counterproductive.
I
This
is
not
isolated
to
one
community,
a
one
neighborhood
one
part
of
Toronto.
This
is
Toronto's
problem
and
that's
the
only
way
we
could
approach
it
and
for
us
to
try
and
feel
comfortable
because
they
say
well,
it's
the
gangs
that
are
doing
it.
I,
think
that
is
really
not
productive.
To
try
and
say
you
know,
don't
you
don't
have
to
worry.
It
just
happened
in
that
area,
the
gang
members
and
then
we
gotta
do
something
about
gangs.
I
Yes,
we
there
are
gangs,
obviously,
but
a
lot
of
the
activity
I
think
is
just
random
craziness,
because
people
do
see
each
other
on
the
internet.
They
go
and
shoot
each
other
that
same
night.
It's
not
even
you
know
to
call
it
gang
violence
sometimes
is
giving
them
too
much
credit.
So
it's
very
random
in
many
cases,
and
the
one
thing
that
police
tell
me
is
there
are
more
guns
available
than
we
ever
seen
before.
I
That's
for
sure,
I
just
want
to
say
that
since
March
we
also
did
you
know,
you
know,
you
know
the
broken
window.
Theory
I've
been
doing
that
on
the
ground
since
March
and
I've
got
great
cooperation
from
Allah.
You
know
Francis
Annunziata.
She
knows
that
full.
Well,
then,
that
in
New
York
the
MLS
has
been
great
they've
been
out
there,
we've
had
maybe
50
graffiti
things
wiped
out.
We've
had
everything
from
weeds,
you
know
property,
that's
falling
apart,
they've
been
out
there
just
cleaning
the
whole
community
up.
I
You
know,
since
March
non-stop
I
can
give
you
the
list
of
all
the
activity
undertaken
by
our
city
staff.
You
know
seeing
that
you
know
we've
got
to
basically
clean
neighbor
up
and
it
helps
avoid.
You
know
the
tagging
by
the
gangs
and
places
where
people
loiter
so
that's
been
ongoing
since
March,
and
yet
this
continues.
I
I
just
also
want
to
say
that
you
know
I've
been
through
this.
You
know
I
remember
one
time
we
had
all
this
money
thrown
at
the
religious
institutions,
the
pinball
solution.
I
They
said
you
know
we'll
get
in
there
and
we'll
give
them
all
this
money
and
the
churches
will
solve
all
the
problems.
Well,
we
went
through
that.
You
know
how
successful
that
was.
I
really
don't
know,
but
it
was
an
effort.
We've
had
Tavis
I,
remember,
yeah
time
to
send
in
the
troops
and
Tavis
is
going
to
solve
the
problem.
We
did
that
I've.
I
Then
the
last
thing
we
did
the
carding
well,
they
said
now,
people
are
telling
me:
oh,
do
the
carding
bring
it
back,
you'll
solve
all
the
problems.
Folks,
as
you
know,
all
of
you,
a
lot
of
you
have
been
through
this
there's
no
magic
solution.
It's
hard
work
cooperative
work
non-stop
day
to
day
grind
by
our
city
staff,
provincial
officials,
officials.
I
J
J
The
institutions
that
give
those
young
people
support
so
that
they
choose
a
different
path
and
I
think
that,
if
we're
going,
if,
if
the
intent
of
the
the
original
motion
was
to
to
ultimately
reduce
violent
crime
in
the
city,
there
needs
to
be
a
commitment
to
greater
investment
in
engaging
our
youth
and
in
fighting
poverty.
We
know
those
to
be
the
roots
of
the
violence
in
our
city
there.
J
There
is
certainly
an
enforcement
side
to
all
of
this,
like
there
is
a
to
to
road
safety,
which
is
also
I,
know
a
big
issue
here,
there's
an
enforcement
side
and
there's
a
preventive
side,
and
there
are
two
sides
to
this
coin,
which
is
why
I
put
forward
a
motion
at
Budget
Committee.
That
I
was
was
pleased
and
also
very
surprised
that
it
had
passed
that
it
passed.
Budget
Committee
is
in
front
of
you
today
and
that's
to
to
start
thinking
about
a
different
course
to
start
thinking.
J
If
we're
gonna
make
the
investment
in
in
police
enforcement,
let's
make
twice
the
invasive
investment
in
prevention
and
I
didn't
twice
was
very
like
it
was
very
objective:
it
wasn't.
A
subjective
number
III
just
thought
that
the
city
should
make
the
statement
that
we
care
more
about.
We
care
equally,
if
not
more
so,
about
prevention
and
helping
eliminate
violence
that
way
than
we
do
about
the
end
of
pipe
now.
I've
since
had
conversations
with
staff-
and
this
is
what
this
isn't
trying
to
accuse
anyone
on
executive-
the
mayor.
J
J
We've
also
increased
the
amount
of
money
we've
spent
on
police
and
to
be
fair,
they're,
actually
comparable
in
in
in
the
range
and
of
increase,
I,
dare
I,
say,
there's
actually
been
a
greater
increase
in
in
in
poverty
reduction.
I
was
very
pleased
and
and
and
in
fact,
a
little
bit
proud
to
say
that
that
was
the
case
under
the
leadership
of
Pam
McConnell,
our
mayor
and
others,
and
others
on
this
executive.
J
But
I
think
we
should
start
reinforcing
it,
not
only
when
we
see
these
spikes
in
violence,
but
within
our
budget
process,
though,
as
we
as
we
go
down
this
path.
If
we
really
want
to
work
towards
the
heart
and
roots
of
violent
crime
that
we
have
to
anytime
we're
talking
about
spending
money
on
police
talk
about
spending
twice
as
much
in
the
preventive
side
and
I
was
very
pleased
to
see
that
motion
again
quite
surprised,
but
maybe
I
shouldn't
have
been
because
we
have
been
slowly
going
on
this
path.
B
B
B
One
making
sure
we
have
given
adequate
support
to
the
police
to
making
sure
that
we
either
reform
or
better
enforce
or
implement
the
laws
that
exist
and
three
that
we
invest
in
what
I
call
kids
and
families
and
neighborhoods,
and
so
in.
In
the
case
of
the
motion
before
us,
there
are
two
one
to
get
some
further
information,
but
the
first
one
which
has
to
do
with
authorizing
this
amount
of
money
that
has
been
allocated
to
the
purposes
that
deputy
Ramar
indicated
I
was
confronted
in
August
by
a
spate
of
violence
that
was
happening.
B
B
I
was
also
conscious
of
the
fact
that
the
police
variance
report
up
until
the
end
of
June
had
shown
a
very
narrow.
You
know
room
for
manoeuvre
of
the
city
and
its
numbers
had
a
little
bit
more
maneuverability.
So
I
was
anxious
not
to
have
him
not
do
something
because
they
didn't
have
the
the
budgetary
room
to
do
so,
because
there's
been
comments
made
to
the
effect
that
I
was
trying
to
dictate
what
went
on.
B
Apparently
peak
activity
on
the
part
of
the
criminals,
I
wasn't
going
to
say
well,
gee,
let's
wait
until
the
council
meeting
on
October
the
2nd
and
then
maybe
you
will
be
able
to
find
the
resources
to
do
something
about
that,
and
so
the
good
news
here
is
that,
while
I
made
a
commitment
that
I
knew
that
I
had
to
follow
up
by
getting
14
votes
at
the
City
Council,
that
would
approve
it.
And
that's
what
we're
here
in
part
beginning
to
do
today.
B
I
also
knew
that
it
gave
me
the
opportunity,
by
making
a
commitment,
that
we
would
get
past,
that
I
could
get
the
other
governments
to
contribute
to
this
as
well
I
will
say
in
fairness,
the
federal
government's
money
was
new
in
the
sense
that
it
wasn't
part
of
some
previous
commitment.
They've
made
the
provinces
money,
it's
less
clear.
B
Given
the
problem
they've
indicated
over
and
over
again
is
a
big
problem
for
them,
which
is
people
getting
out
on
bail,
who
are
arrested
on
firearms
charges
and
other
things
like
that
and
specialized
investigations,
in
other
words,
intelligence
gathering
on
the
guns
and
the
gangs.
That
I
was
very
happy
that
they
should
do
this
work
and
that
I
would
get
the
support
needed
here.
B
Now.
Knowing
that
that's
a
different
kind
of
investment
in
that
it
pays
dividends
for
sure
we
know
the
biggest
ones.
But
it
pays
them
down
the
road
as
opposed
to
the
immediacy
of
what
we
needed
to
do
to
support
the
police,
and
so
I
will
just
say
in
the
cause
of
making
sure
that
we
try
to
diminish
that
anxiety.
That
people
felt
trying
to
diminish
that
level.
B
Nor
should
we
on
property
tax
dollars.
No
matter
what
level
of
Taxation
we
have
its
property.
Taxes
are
not
meant
to
fund
social
programs
at
least
not
at
whole.
That's
for
sure,
and
so
I
will
continue
to
advocate
to
the
other
governments
for
that,
because
the
three
parts
of
this
are
equally
important.
In
fact,
the
latter
one
is
the
best
long-term
investment
we
can
make
in
quelling
this
level
of
this
unacceptable
level
of
criminal
activity
going
forward.
B
So
that
sort
of
explains
why
we're
here
and
and
the
motion
or
the
latter,
that
I'm
sending
forward
to
get
the
assessment
is
only
so
that
the
council
as
a
whole
can
I
have
all
the
information
the
Budget
Committee
had
the
other
day.
Who
else
would
like
to
speak?
We
have
counselor
deputy
mayor
Thompson
and
we
have
counselor
Deanna
and
counselor
pastor.
Anna
can
I
see
your
end
as
well?
No,
so
we
have
those
two
to
four
stars:
go
ahead:
deputy
mayor
I
thank.
H
I
joined
that
course
as
well,
but
I
think
I'd
like
to
just
and,
of
course,
all
the
different
levels
of
government
to
have
to
work
together.
Mr.
mayor,
you
recall
you
and
I
had
a
conversation.
Recently
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
mayor's
Advisory
Council
on
Community
Safety,
something
we
had
some
time
ago.
H
This
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
certainly
bring
a
lot
of
different
entities
together
with
not
into
school
boards,
labor
other
levels
of
governments,
one
and
work
through
a
work
plan
in
terms
of
addressing
some
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
here
and
bringing
all
of
these
things
together.
Oftentimes.
We
react
to
these
situations
when
they're
happening
and
when
there's
a
lull
we
are
comforting
in
that
nothing's
happening.
H
There
is
no
necessity
for
actions
to
take,
not
necessarily
that's
what
we
do,
but
it
just
isn't
the
impression:
isn't
there
I
think
one
of
the
areas
that
I
think
we
are
really
failing
in
and
we
really
have
to
place
some
emphasis
and
some
focus
on
it's.
The
life
after
one
has
been
incarcerated
that
have
been
imprisoned
for
some
time
and
you
come
back
out
and
then
there's
no
opportunity
for
you.
So
you
have
a
number
of
options.
One
is
you
can
just
simply
go
to
social
services,
which
is
not
sufficient.
H
The
other
is
to
continue
in
the
life
of
crime,
and
you
come
out
of
these
institutions
without
any
ability.
Any
trade,
development,
known
facilitation
of
training
and
so
on.
I
think
this
is
an
area
that
certainly
we
really
need
to
address
and
I
realize
that
there
is
a
there's
that
there's
an
element
when
you
have
a
record
in
terms
of
being
able
to
get
a
job,
and
we
have
tried
to
to
address
this
some
time
for
some
time.
I.
Don't
think
we've
done
a
good
enough
job
at
that.
H
H
What
would
you
do
for
the
most
part
you
go
back
into
the
conditions
are,
got
you
incarcerated
in
the
first
place,
and
there
is
a
tendency
that
you
may
get
arrested
again,
but
we
know
that
if
you're
not,
you
will
continue
to
you
know
to
elongate
and
prolong
this
life
of
crime
and
active,
because
that's
really
all
the
choice
you
actually
have-
and
so
I
using
my
time
just
to
speak
about
that
component.
Part
of
it,
which
I
think
is
important,
I,
mean.
H
Obviously
we
address
the
issue
around
education,
housing,
poverty,
lack
of
jobs
and
so
on.
I
think
those
are
extremely
fundamental
to
some
of
the
challenges
that
were
actually
having.
The
other
thing
is
that
you
know
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
how
we
sentence
people
in
terms
of
gun
crimes
and
other
activities.
I
was
looking
at
some
stats
just
last
night
there
was
a
country,
I
won't
name
the
country.
At
the
moment
today,
almost
a
thousand
people
have
been
killed.
H
That's
not
the
condition
that
we're
facing
here,
but
the
fact
that
one
person
gets
killed
here.
That's
essentially
one
too
many,
and
so
we
have
this
condition
condition
now,
where
it
becomes
rather
sexy
to
have
a
gun
or
to
feel
that
you
need
a
gun
because
the
other
person's
have
guns
and
so
on,
because
when
there's
an
altercation,
it's
no
longer
fisticuffs
or
any
of
the
things
that
I
guess
that
used
to
happen.
H
It
is
now
you
draw
your
gun
and
other
persons
are
drawing
their
guns
as
well
and
or
you
have
a
gun
and
the
other
person
doesn't
have
a
gun.
And
yes,
the
drug
trade
and
all
of
those
illicit
activities
are
all
factors
in
this,
but
I
think
we
all
have
to
have
a
general
sense
as
to
this
is
an
acute
problem
and
I
think
that
we
do
what
we
just
have
to
coordinate.
H
G
G
As
you
know,
recently,
I've
had
quite
a
few
homicides
in
12
division
and
I.
I.
Think
that
what's
happening
with
some
of
the
guns
and
gangs
in
my
ward
is
that
we
know
where
the
gangs
are.
We
know
where
the
guns
are
and
the
it's
very
difficult,
it's
very
difficult
for
the
police
to
get
rid
of
these
guns
because
of
the
because
they
can't
make
the
arrests
that
they
need
to
need
to
make
unless
there's
a
unless
there's
a
shooting
and
what's
really
important
as
well
and
and
just
recently
I
had
that
16
year
old.
G
That
was
shot
in
the
stairway
one
of
my
buildings
and
we
had
a
community
meeting
and
I
had
two
over
two
hundred
residents
that
came
out.
Most
of
them
were
mothers
from
the
buildings
and
the
mothers
that
attended
the
meeting
was
pleading
was
pleading
with
us.
Please
help
us,
please
help
us.
We
need
more
police,
we
need
more
police
in
the
area,
we
don't
feel
safe.
G
G
One
of
the
homicides
that
I
had
in
my
ward-
it
wasn't
the
one
for
the
sixth
year,
another
homicide
where
there
was
three
that
were
shot.
It's
my
understanding
that
they
they
were
on
bail.
They
were
on
put
there
on
parole
these
individuals.
They
were
arrested,
they
caught
them,
but
they
were
all
on
parole,
so
you're
absolutely
correct.
G
It's
important
that
we
hire
the
additional
police
officers,
because
what
we're
hearing
from
the
community
is,
we
want
to
feel
safe
when
we
want
to
see
more
police
officers
on
the
street
we
have
a
couple
of
years
ago.
There
was
a
hiring
freeze,
so
we
have
to
catch
up
now
to
meet
the
stop
compliment,
so
we
need
to
have.
We
need
to
hire
additional
police
officers
and
I
support
that
a
hundred
percent,
but
at
the
same
time,
in
councillor
Carroll,
you
mentioned
we
have
our
members
motion
going
forward.
G
Maybe
they'll,
maybe
they'll
reach
out,
and
maybe,
though
they
will
have
that
dialogue
with
you
and
really
what
they
want,
what
they
need,
what
they
need
in
their
community
I
saw
I.
Think
that's
so
important
mayor.
Do
you
remember
a
couple
months
ago
when
we
met
with
those
yous
from
the
school,
and
there
was
two
police
officers
from
12
there?
G
May
you
know
how
they
spoke
to
us,
really
that
I
think
that
is
very
important
to
is
to
reach
out
directly
to
the
youth,
if,
if
we're
able
to
get
them
in,
you
know
in
some
sort
of
form
and
speak
to
them,
because
I
think
that
we
would
be
amazed
on
exactly
what
they
say
they
need
and
want,
rather
than
some
of
these
agencies
that
were
actually
funding
and
we're
not
I'm
not
seeing
results.
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
that.
I've
always
had
issues
with
that,
so
I
will
simply
supporting
the
recommendation.
B
There
Thank
You,
counselor
and
Sara
others
wishing
to
speak
on
this
matter.
Okay,
now
I'm
going
to.
If
you
all
allow
me
to
use
the
technicality
and
say
that
my
I
don't
want
to
make
another
speech,
but
I
didn't
move
a
motion
that
just
as
a
technical
motion
to
transmit
this
to
the
City,
Council
and
so
I
was
speaking
before
on
item
whatever
it
was
eight-point
first
to
zero,
and
this
is
on
eight
point
two
six
and
it's
just
a
motion
to
transmit
this
through
the
recommendation.