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Executive Committee, meeting 7, July 4, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=15470
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMO9sYeU-10
Meeting Navigation:
0:14:09 - Call to order
0:31:41 - Meeting resume
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B
So
that
you'll
know
the
item
that
you
might
be
here
for
when
it's
roughly
going
to
be
considered,
because
we
have
two
items
with
quite
a
few
deputations
today,
which
mean
they
take
a
couple
of
hours
and
unusually
today
the
committee
members
will
know
we
have
an
item
that
is
being
dealt
with,
that
the
law
requires
us
to
deal
with
that
10
o'clock.
Precisely
because
there's
been
a
public
notice
given
of
it.
So
we
have
to
deal
with
it'll,
be
very
brief,
but
we
have
to
deal
with
it
at
that
time.
B
So
may
I
begin
by
just
saying
we
do
have
quorum
and
I
will
call
to
order
the
7th
meeting
of
the
executive
committee.
We
acknowledge
the
land
we're
meeting
on
as
the
traditional
territory
of
many
First
Nations,
including
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit,
the
Anishinaabe,
the
Chippewa,
the
Hutt
nashoni
and
the
wind
at
people's
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations,
Inuit
and
maytee
peoples.
B
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto
is
covered
by
treaty
13
with
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit,
we're
delighted
with
all
the
people
that
are
here
in
person
today,
but
we
also
remind
those
elsewhere
or
even
people
here,
that
you
can
watch
us
on
YouTube
at
Toronto,
City,
Council,
live
or
follow
the
meeting
on
your
computer
tablet
or
smartphone
at
WWDC.
A
backslash
counsel
and
I
will
remind
you.
There
is
an
overflow
room
at
committee,
room
2,
where
you'll
see
the
proceedings
carried
live
there.
B
The
first
thing
we
have
to
do
here
is
ask
if
there
are
any
declarations
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
Act.
If
so,
please
indicate
the
item
number
and
the
nature
of
the
interest
did
I
see
I'm
far
from
e2,
but
did
I
see.
There's
a
library,
capital
budget
variance
item
am
I,
not
mistaken,
and
you
almost
always
yes.
F
A
B
B
B
So
we
do
have
a
statutory
hearing
scheduled
at
10
o'clock
this
morning
to
consider
items
7.13,
which
responds
to
a
complaint
filed
pursuant
to
the
development
charges
act
in
the
Education
Act.
Anyone
present-
and
this
is
important
to
note
here
because
of
the
fact
this
is
a
statutorily
required
time
of
this
item.
Anyone
present
who
wishes
to
speak,
including
the
complainant,
may
address
the
committee
on
this
item.
So
far
we
don't
have
any
notice,
I
believe,
madam
clerk,
oh,
we
do
have
one
okay,
so
there
so
that
will
be
dealt
with
precisely
at
ten
o'clock.
B
What
we
will
do,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
just
so
you
know,
in
the
mean
time
is,
we
will
run
down
the
agenda,
which
means
we
go
through
it
and
determine
the
items
that
will
be
either
held
for
deputations
or
otherwise
debated
by
committee
members
who
wish
to
hold
these
items.
We
will
approve
the
balance
of
the
items
and
then
just
so
that
you
know
because
there's
a
large
number
of
people
in
here
on
to
items
in
particular.
B
We
will
then
deal
with
items
as
follows:
we'll
deal
first
with
this
item
7.13,
which
is
the
development
charges
item
that
has
the
one
person
here.
We
would
next
then
deal
with
item
7.5,
which
is
the
Don
Mills
recreation
item,
and
we
will
then
deal
with
item
7.1,
which
is
the
tenants
first,
a
Toronto,
Community,
Housing
item
and
I
think
between
those
two
items,
7.5
and
7.1.
B
We
have
the
bulk
of
the
people
who
want
to
be
heard,
which
is
katha
rific,
but
it
just
means
that
we
don't
have
to
then
have
you
waiting
for
long
parts
of
the
day
to
be
heard
from
just
in
terms
of
people,
maybe
wanting
to
go
off
to
the
overflow
room.
It
would
be
my
expectation
that
the
Don
Mills
item
will
take
a
good
part
of
the
morning
by
the
time
we
hear
from
the
people
and
have
some
questions
of
staff,
but
maybe
not
all
morning,
but
it
will
take
a
good
part
of
the
morning.
B
So
that's
just
for
the
information
of
those
who
are
here
on
tenants
first,
that
will
come
up
right
afterwards
and
we'll
probably
get
started
before
lunch
on
that
and
carry
on
after
lunch.
So
I
would
like
to
add
an
item
of
new
business
to
our
agenda
if
I
may-
and
the
proposed
item
is
entitled
establishing
a
subcommittee
to
provide
direction
to
the
city's
bargaining
teams
on
collective
bargaining
with
cUPE,
Local
79
and
TCE
you
local
four
one.
Six
and
I
understand
that
the
item
has
been
pretty
circulated.
B
I
think
it's
on
pink
paper
just
to
provide
a
bit
of
background
in
the
transition
to
the
new
council
where
we
had
to
restructure
all
the
committee's.
We
just
didn't
appoint
a
subcommittee
that
is
a
standard
standard
subcommittee.
We
would
have
of
this
committee
to
handle
negotiations
that
will
start
in
this
calendar
year
and
so
we're
just
simply
putting
that
committee
in
place
now
and
we'll
deal
with
it
at
the
appropriate
time.
But
for
the
moment
may
I
have
who
I'll
move
that
it
be
added
to
the
agenda.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried.
B
Right,
so
we
want
the
people
from
the
VA
office
and
the
film
office
requested
to
be
in
attendance
for
some
questions
of
staff
at
that
time.
Item
7.3
that
could
the
crest
of
town,
pedestrian
bridge
review
is
being
held
for
a
deputation
item.
7.4
office,
optimization
office
swing
space.
All
right
may
I
have
a
motion
to
accept.
Is
there
somebody
holding
that
to
accept
the
staff
recommend
a
loop
so
moved
by
councillor
Ainsley,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
item.
B
7.5
is
being
held
for
deputations
item
7.6,
build
Toronto
annual
general
meeting
and
2018
audited
financial
statements
sera
motion
to
to
receive
that
what
the
recommendation
is
to
treat
this
as
their
annual
meeting
receive
the
build
report
and
direct
the
city
clerk
to
forward
a
copy.
So,
let's
moved
by
Councillor
Pasternak
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
item
7.7
exec,
7.7,
Casa,
Loma,
corporation
Annual,
General
Meeting
in
2018,
audited
financial
statement.
All
that.
B
By
Councillor
pasternak,
all
those
in
somebody
died
here.
Somebody
wanted
to
hold
that
ol,
boobs,
ok,
moved
by
councillor
Patrick.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
I'll,
give
a
small
editorial
comment
there
and
say
things
are
looking
up
there
in
terms
of
the
general
thing,
but
no
we're
not
quite
out
of
the
woods
yet
but
they're
getting
there
item
X
7.9
Toronto,
Community,
Housing
Corporation
annual
general
meeting
in
2018
audited
consolidated
financial
statements.
Again,
it's
the
same
general
motion
of
receiving
and
reappointing
auditors
and
whatnot.
B
It's
a
standard
business
moved
by
councillor
Ainsley,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item;
IX
7.10,
Toronto,
Hydro
corporation
same
thing:
annual
general
meeting
in
2018
audited,
financial
statements
moved
by
Deputy
Mayor
Bennett
Wong.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item
ex7
point
11,
Toronto,
Pan,
Am,
Sports,
Center,
Inc,
Annual,
General
Meeting
in
2018,
audited,
financial
statements
moved
by
councillor
Ainsley,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item,
ex7
point
12,
Toronto,
Portland's
company,
Annual,
General
Meeting
in
2018,
audited
financial
statements.
Is
there
a
mover
of
the
staff
recommendations
here
and
that's
moved
by
councillor
Crawford?
B
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
item.
Ex7
point
13
is
the
statutory
and
we'll
be
dealing
with
in
a
few
minutes
at
10
o'clock
development
charge,
complaint
item,
IX
7.14
capital
variance
report
for
the
year
ended
December,
31st
2018,
moved
by
the
budget
chief
counselor
Crawford,
all
those
in
favor
posed
carried
item
e^x
7.15.
The
operating
variance
report
for
the
year
ended
December,
31st,
2018,
again
moved
by
the
budget
chief
counselor
Crawford.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
to
carry
item
IX
7.16.
The
reserve
and
reserve
fund
balances
report.
B
As
of
December
31st
to
2018
moved
by
Councillor
Crawford,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried.
Now
we
get
into
the
capital,
variances
and
other
variance
reports
for
the
first
four
months,
the
ex
7.17,
the
capital
variance
report
for
the
four
months
ended
April,
30th,
2019,
again
moved
by
the
budget
chief
consecrate,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item,
seven
point
e
ex
7.18
the
operating
variance
report
for
the
four
months
and
April
30th
2019
moved
by
Councillor
Crawford.
B
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item,
IX
7.19,
invest,
Toronto
final
wind
up
and
dissolution,
and
this
is
just
being
received
for
information
on
the
wind.
Up
of
investor
on
tow
is
moved
by
Deputy,
mermen
and
Wang.
All
those
in
favor
both
carried
item
IX
7.20,
the
2019
levy
on
railroad
ways
and
rights
of
ways
and
power,
utility
and
and
distribution
corridors
hold
up.
Please
o
that,
are
you
gonna
move,
I,
hope,
you're
gonna
move
a
motion
again
yet
again
calling
on
the
appropriate
authorities
to
allow
us
to
change
that
levy.
Thank
you,
counseling.
B
Commissioner,
there
is
a
I
have
it
here
somewhere,
you
have
it
there
there's
a
motion
that
I
will
move
that
it's
again
the
housekeeping
and
it
simply
provides
for
the
accountability
officer
to
recommend
directly
to
Council
the
establishment
of
a
retention
schedule
for
an
accountability
record.
It
deletes
a
section.
So
that's
it's
up
in
front
of
you.
It's
really
just
housekeeping
and
that's
all
that
this
was
going
to
deal
with
was
to
do
that
move
by
by
myself.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry,
and
that's
on
the
on
the
amendment
and
then
on.
B
The
item
has
amended
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
and
that
covers
22
a
as
well
item
e^x
7.23,
Children's,
Services
amendments
to
the
2019
approved
capital
budget,
cash
flows
for
Mount
Denis
childcare
and
st.
Barnabas
Catholic
school
child
care
center
projects.
We
have
a
staff
recommendation,
I'll
somebody
willing
to
move
the
sacrificial
after
Mitzi
Atta.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item,
e^x
7.2
for
emergency
management
program
funding,
increased
from
Ontario
Power
Generation
incorporated
again.
I
think
this
is
fairly
straightforward.
B
There's
a
staff
recommendation
moved
by
councillor
Crawford,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item:
IX
7.27
transportation
services,
2019
capital
budget
in
2019,
2028
adjustments
moved
by
a
councillor
Crawford,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item,
seven
point:
the
ex
7.28
transfer
of
reserve
funds
to
Toronto
live
foundation.
There's
a
recommendation
here
coming
from
the
board
of
directors
of
tÃo
live
councilor
Crawford
I
have.
B
Will
distribute
it?
Why
don't
we
just
distribute
it
and
we
can
deal
with
it
quickly
later
people
who
at
least
have
a
chance
to
read
it
because
it
is
fairly
long
and
so
we'll
just
put
that
on
hold
for
councillor
Crawford
to
move
motion
item
e.x
7.29.
This
is
a
letter
coming
from
the
toronto
accessibility.
B
We
happy
to
leave
that
for
people
to
read
it
or
we
can
just
proceed
ahead
to
actually
establish
that
committee,
which
is
something
that
is
on
the
back.
It
has
the
recommendation
of
the
four
members
deputy
Merriman
and
Wong
as
chair
deputy
mayor
by
Lao
constituency,
attic
councillor
Crawford,
but
that's
happened.
The
deputy
mayor
moves
that
are
there
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie
all
right.
What
time
is
it.
K
K
B
B
Yes,
I
would
I
would
have
a
motion
if,
if
the
committee
has
concurrent
that
I
would
move
that,
with
the
exception
of
item
7.1
3,
which
is
the
statutory
item,
speakers
who
have
not
pre
registered
to
be
allowed
to
register
to
speak
until
10:00
a.m.
on
June,
2nd
2019,
after
which
no
further
registration
will
be
allowed,
and
the
speakers
list
would
be
closed.
We
have
about
30
some-odd
deputations
on
the
list.
What
did
I
say:
June
6
GX
to
Joy?
Fourth
right,
you're
right,
it's
July
4th
2019.
B
B
I
I
I
I
B
B
B
B
B
Alright,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
first
of
all
may
I
just
say
again
over
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
room
here,
there's
a
little
bit
of
general
hubbub,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
okay,
yeah
I
will
could
I
just
ask
that
we
thank
you.
First
of
all
can
I
just
say
you
know
that
that
we
tried
to
take
into
account
numbers
of
deputations
and
numbers
of
people
in
the
room
in
order
to
schedule
the
items.
B
The
way
we
did
and
somebody
has
to
come
first
and
somebody
has
to
come
second
and
I
know,
there's
some
people
who
and
and
I'm
pretty
liberal,
about
making
dispensations
for
people
who
I
absolutely
have
to
catch
a
wheel,
trans
or
something
like
that
to
make
sure
they
get
hurt.
But
we
just
have
to
do
things
in
a
certain
way
and
we're
trying
to
sort
of
take
account
of
the
number
of
people
in
the
room
who
could
otherwise
go.
B
But
somebody
has
to
go
second
and
third
and
fourth
and
I
apologize
for
those
who
would
rather
be
first
and
who
aren't.
But
it's
just
the
way
we
have
to
deal
with
these
things
as
best
we
can.
So
as
it
is
now
after
10:00
a.m.
we
will
consider
the
timed
item,
that
is
timed
by
statutory
requirement.
It
is
e^x
7.13
development
charge,
complaint,
1383,
1385,
1389,
$13.99
and
1403
Military
Trail.
This
is
a
statutory
public
meeting
in
accordance
with
the
development
charges,
Act
and
the
Education
Act.
We
have
one
registered
speaker
on
this
item.
B
If
anybody
else
wishes
to
speak,
please
register
with
the
clerk
seated
to
my
right
immediately,
because
we
will
deal
with
Adam
yeah.
You
know
otherwise
in
fairly
rapid
order.
But
if
there's
anybody
else
beyond
the
one
person
that
is
registered,
please
come
up
and
let
the
clerk
know
right
here
to
my
right
right
away:
Susan
Rose
Rosenthal
is
the
one
person
who
is
registered
to
speak
in
mr.
Rosenthal
you're
most
welcome
and
you
have
five
minutes.
B
L
You
my
client,
as
you
know,
was
seeking
a
credit
to
the
development
charges
that
paid
when
it
received
a
permit
for
the
construction
of
12
new
buildings,
which
replaced
five
existing
dwellings
on
the
site
which
were
demolished
very
shortly
before
the
new
buildings
were
constructed.
The
amount
of
the
credit
amounts
to
approximately
200
in
respect
of
the
city,
development
charges
and
approximately
$7,500
in
respect
of
the
education
development
charges.
L
As
you
know,
the
city
has
provisions
in
its
by
law
to
allow
for
the
reduction
of
development
charges
payable
to
take
into
account
the
fact
that
the
development
is
replacing
development
that
has
been
demolished.
Existing
units
and
the
city
does
have
a
time
limit
within
which
these
provisions
apply
and,
in
my
view,
the
purpose
of
that
time
limit
is
threefold.
L
Firstly,
the
city
wants
to
make
sure
that
buildings
aren't
demolished
and
the
site
lays
vacant
for
a
great
length
of
time.
Secondly,
the
city
wants
to
ensure
that
the
purpose
for
the
demolition
is
related
to
the
purpose
for
the
new
construction,
so
that
buildings
are
being
replaced
not
just
being
demolished.
L
In
many
years
later,
new
construction
comes
along
and,
finally,
in
my
view,
the
city
wants
to
encourage
active
processing
of
applications
to
ensure
that
again,
there's
not
a
time
like
they
want
to
make
sure
there's
not
inactivity,
and
in
my
clients
case,
there
was
no
inactivity
at
all.
In
fact,
it
was
just
the
opposite.
The
permit
was
issued
to
a
previous
owner
and
that
previous
owner,
shortly
after
receiving
the
demolition
permit
applied
for
zoning
bylaw
and
received
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
then
applied
for
consents
to
sever
the
land,
to
facilitate
a
sale
of
them.
L
They
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
were
sufficient
time
to
process
the
minor
variance
application,
and
so
they
applied
in
January
2016
for
a
transfer
of
the
demolition
permit
to
them
when
they
applied
for
that
transfer,
they
in
fact
had
to
fill
out
a
new
application
for
a
demolition
permit.
It
wasn't
merely
a
administrative
exercise.
L
They
actually
had
to
fill
out
forms
seeking
that,
and
it
was
my
clients
view
that
when
it
did
that
it
was
in
effect
seeking
a
new
issuance
of
a
demolition
permit,
my
client
actively
processed
its
variance
application,
but,
as
you
know,
these
things
take
time
and
I
suspect.
That's
why
the
city
and
its
newest
development
charge
by
law
has
extended
the
time
between
the
demolition
permit
and
the
application
for
a
building
permit
to
16.
But
excuse
me
to
60
months:
it's
nobody's
fault.
L
L
The
the
permit
was
issued
on
August
16th
2017,
just
19
and
a
half
months
after
the
permit
was
issued
to
it
by
waiting
to
demolish
the
buildings
until
they
were
ready
to
proceed
to
development.
My
client
fulfilled
what
we
believe
is
the
intent
behind
the
ability
to
obtain
credit.
They
ensure
that
the
site
didn't
sit
vacant.
While
the
approvals
were
under
way,
they
ensured
that
there
was
a
relationship
between
the
buildings
that
were
being
demolished
and
the
new
buildings
being
put
up
and
they
ensure
that
the
redevelopment
application
on
the
site
was
actively
pursued.
L
L
Had
my
client
understood
at
the
time
that
the
city
would
be
taking
the
position
that
the
credit
timing
began
from
the
date
of
the
original
issuance
of
the
permit
in
2013
and
not
from
the
date
when
they
were
given
the
permit
in
2016,
they
would
have
revoke
ask
for
the
revocation
of
that
permit
and
they
would
have
resubmitted
a
new
demolition
permit.
It
would
have
been
a
lot
less
costly
to
them
and
certainly
would
have
resulted
in
the
dispute
that
we
now
have
with
the
city.
Okay,.
B
B
L
You,
sir,
that
wasn't
their
understanding
and
they
understood
that
the
permit,
in
fact,
would
that
the
time
would
begin
from
January
2016,
particularly
since
in
the
city,
knew
that
the
purpose
for
the
demolition
permit
and
the
purpose
for
the
extension
was
to
facilitate
the
proposed
redevelopment
of
these
lands
and,
as
a
result,
I
am
seeking.
On
behalf
of
my
client,
a
reduction
to
the
both
the
city
development
charges
and
to
the
education,
development
charges
and
I
would
be
prepared
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
Thank.
A
L
L
A
L
A
L
B
Strangely,
any
further
questions
of
the
deputed
all
right,
what's
Rosenthal!
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
for
your
comments
and
answers
to
the
questions
and
we'll
now
move
to
questions
of
staff.
All
right,
yes,
I'll,
ask
again
I
asked
earlier
on.
Is
there
anybody
else
who
wishes
to
speak
to
this
matter?
Are
you
wish
you
to
speak
this
matter?
No,
okay!
Anybody
else,
I'll
just
ask
anybody
else
wanting
to
speak
to
this
matter.
B
A
M
A
A
A
M
Through
the
chair
there
there
was
some
communication
because
the
building
permit
there,
the
demolition
permits
are
essentially
expire
or
would
be
revoked
after
a
period
of
time,
typically
about
a
year.
So
there
is
communication
and
those
demolition
permits
were
extended,
but
staff
do
not
advise
the
applicant
on
how
to
minimize
the
development
charges.
So
there's
no
there's
no
notice
that
their
demolition
reduction
period
is
is
set
to
expire.
B
You
other
other
questions
of
staff.
Can
I
just
ask
you
just
because
I
think
for
those
who
are
watching
and
it's
an
important
part
of
that
that
people
understand
what's
going
on
here.
The
report
sets
it
out,
but
to
sort
of
been
alluded
to
and
the
questions
of
my
two
colleagues.
But
could
you
give
us
the
sort
of
30-second
the
staff
is
recommending
here
that
that
we
stick
with
the
decision
that
was
taken
that
the
brought
bylaw
was
properly
applied?
M
Absolutely
through
the
chairs,
so
this
situation
is
a
case
where
the
amount
of
or
the
application
of
the
bylaw
is
disputed
by
the
applicant.
They
have
a
statutory
right
to
be
heard
by
executive
committee
in
this
case,
as
a
staff
report
indicates,
staff
reviewed
the
file
and
determined
that
we
had
followed
the
bylaw
appropriately,
and
so
our
recommendation
is
that
the
the
request
be
dismissed.
There's
really
no
dispute
about
about
the
facts
of
the
matter,
I
believe
in
this
situation.
M
As
the
deputy
stated,
there
may
have
been
a
misunderstanding
about
when
their
timeline
ran
out,
but
staff
have
reviewed
the
facts
and-
and
it
was
clearly
beyond
the
thirty
six
months-
and
we
have
a
duty
as
staff
to
uphold
the
bylaw
and
force
and
recommended
in
accordance
with
the
bylaw
and
our
finding
was.
There
is
no
error
in
it.
B
That's
correct,
right,
okay,
those
are
my
questions.
Are
there
any
other
questions
of
staff?
All
right?
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
speak
to
this
matter
all
right.
We
have
in
front
of
us
a
staff
recommendation
which
is
that
it
will
go
forward
to
City
Council,
but
that
it's
determined
that
the
bylaw
and
and
education
development
charges
by
law
have
been
properly
applied
to
this
development
and
the
City
Council
dismissed
the
complaint
filed
pursuant
to
section
20
of
the
development
charges
act
and
the
Education
Act
and
I.
B
Will
this
will
go
forward
to
City
Council
but
I'll
call
the
question
on
that
staff
recommendation?
Is
it
moved
by
someone
here
moved
by
Councillor
Ainsley,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
Carrie?
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Miss
Rose
applause.
All
right
now,
I'm
going
to
just
exercise
the
discretion
that
I've
alluded
to
before.
B
There
are
four
people
I
understand
that
have
indicated
they
have
wheel,
trans
reservations
and
so
forth
on
the
item
that
is
7.1
and
for
those
four
people
we
will
hear
from
them
now
with
respect
to
their
deputations
on
7.1,
which
is
the
tenants
first
item
because
I
know.
Sometimes
these
will.
Trans
reservations
can
be
hard
to
change.
So
I
would
ask
that
I'll
just
read
their
names
because
they're
coming
out
of
order
on
the
list
here:
Cathy
Burch,
William,
Loman,
doris
power
and
Nene
and
Anita
Dressler.
B
B
N
Good
morning
mr.
Torian
committee
members,
my
name
is
Kathy
Burch
I'm,
the
founder
in
the
chair
of
the
our
path
responsible,
personal
accessibility
in
Toronto,
Housing
Committee,
which
was
created
in
2013.
We
are
10
tenants
living
in
Toronto,
Community
Housing,
who
live
with
physical
disabilities,
who
advocate
for
accessibility
and
partner
with
Toronto
Community
Housing
to
ensure
quality,
safe,
cost-effective
and
usable
accessibility
for
Toronto
Community
Housing
tenants
we
provide
the
lived
experience,
lends
to
help
TCH
see,
spend
money
effectively
to
create
useable
spaces
for
all
tenants,
including
tenants
with
disabilities,
together
with
management
and
staff.
N
We've
helped
ro
build
build
a
robust
accessibility
program
that
includes
policy
and
procedure,
development
budget
recommendations,
a
10-year
accessibility
of
the
plan,
recommendations
for
modifications
to
existing
builds
in
common
spaces
and
in
suite
a
build
ratio
for
accessible
units
for
our
development
team
in
revitalized
in
new
communities.
An
accessibility
build
standards
for
all
TCH
C
properties.
N
We've
worked
extensively
with
TCH,
see
facilities,
management
and
development
in
the
past
6
years
by
helping
scope,
projects
reviewing
drawings
and
develop
excessive
little
accessibility
build
standards
that
exceed
the
Ontario
Building
Code,
as
the
current
OBC
is
insufficient
for
mobility
devices
used
today.
These
standards
mean
TCH
C
meets
duty
to
accommodate
legislation
which
is
really
important
and
from
this
room
and
the
way
the
difficulties
we've
had,
we
need
to
talk
and
allows
tenants
to
age
in
place
safer
and
longer.
N
We
review
drawings
and
go
on
site
for
all
revitalization
projects
with
development,
so
we
continue
to
provide
for
future
needs.
Our
work
with
development
and
facilities
provided
proactive
and
innovative
build
standards,
so
new
and
revitalized
communities
are
delivered
with
truly
useable
accessibility,
not
just
suitable,
as
well
as
modification
to
existing
bills.
This
is
important
because
we
have
an
aging
population.
N
Tenants
needs
will
rise.
We've
worked
with
and
made
recommendations
to
TCH
see
management
for
build
ratios
of
fully
accessible
units
in
revitalized
in
new
communities
to
meet
the
current
and
future
needs
of
that
aging
population.
These
recommendations
have
been
supported
and
committed
to
by
the
TC
HC
board
of
directors,
because
the
work
for
usable
accessibility
has
been
extensive
for
six
years
in
TC
HC.
The
progress
is
remarkable:
it's
not
desirable
or
in
the
best
interest
of
current
or
future
tenants
to
move
development
to
the
city
or
to
create
eto.
N
It
would
impede
accessibility
for
persons
with
disabilities
being
able
to
function
in
revitalized
and
new
communities
apparently
being
worked
on
and
future
projects.
The
only
option
to
circumvent
this
critical
barrier
would
be
for
the
city
to
honor
the
current
TC
HC
Board
of
Directors,
commitment
of
accessible
unit,
build
ratio
and
the
delivery
of
accessible
units
and
new
and
revitalized
communities
with
the
TC
HC
accessibility,
build
standards
to
meet
current
and
future
needs
for
accessible
housing
and
I've.
N
If
these
steps
are
not
taken
with
any
movement
of
the
TC
HD
development
division,
new
and
revitalized
communities
would
be
built
to
OBC
standards
and
not
meet
accommodation
requirements
for
TC
HC
tenants.
This
would
then
result
in
large
capital
investment
requirements
to
the
very
same
communities.
We're
also
here
out
of
serious
concern
for
our
seniors
portfolio.
N
Continued
accessibility,
delivery,
we're
pleased
to
know
from
the
tenants
first
report
that
TC
HC
will
maintain
ownership
and
responsible
for
capital
repairs
of
the
seniors
building,
because
accessibility
is
then
included
for
common
spaces
and
unit
modifications
as
part
of
the
TC
HC
capital
budget.
If
the
new
seniors
entity
will
have
their
own
capital
budget,
that
will
only
be
delivered
by
TC
HC,
then
it
is
a
must
that
accessibility
for
common
spaces
and
unit
modification
be
a
requirement
of
that
new
budget.
This
is
a
significant
capital
investment,
I'll.
N
We
need
you
to
accept
our
build
standards
to
make
sure
that
these
models
and
units
get
modified,
and
we
also
need
you
to
make
sure
that
they
have
process
in
this
new
entity
to
make
sure
that
the
tenants
currently
they've
got
a
process.
They've
got
they've
got
standards
that
meet
their
needs.
If
you're
gonna
take
this
seniors
portfolio
away
and
give
it
a
separate,
separate
entity,
you
have
to
make
sure
that
they
have
those
same
kind
of
processes
in
place
and
available
to
the
tenants,
an
equal
opportunity
all
right
on.
B
That
note
all
thank
you
and
maybe
I'll,
just
ask
the
first
question
is
I
think
that
I
was
just
coming
to
really
what
I
think
was
the
nub
of
your
whole
presentation,
both
with
respect
to
the
movement
of
the
development
wing
of
CCAC
and
also
with
respect
to
the
establishment
of
the
seniors
entity
that
what
you're
saying
I
think
is
that
you
want
to
be
absolutely
assured
that
and
by
the
way,
I
should
say
I.
Thank
you
for
the
work.
B
B
But
what
you're
really
saying
is
you
want
to
make
sure
that
the
progress
that
you
acknowledge
that
has
been
made
in
terms
of
adopting
standards
and
and
and
enforcing
those
as
it
were,
with
respect
to
accommodation
and
those
positive
initiatives
are
carried
forward
so
that,
regardless
of
who
is
doing
the
development,
that
the
same
standards
are
maintained
and
the
same
with
the
seniors
that
those
things
are
firmly
entrenched,
as
it
were
in
any
new
structure
that
that
would
be
contemplated
by
this
report?
Is
that
does
that
affair?
It.
N
Absolutely
is
we're
gonna.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
our
properties
are
going
and
our
tenants
are
going
to
be
accommodated
with
the
same
quality
that
they're
currently
giving
they're.
Not.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
process
that
they're
not
losing
time
for
even
for
making
their
application,
we
want
to
make
sure
they
get
equal
opportunity
to
what
they
have
now.
The
idea
is
to
make
things
better:
it's
not
to
step
backwards.
All.
B
Right
I
thought:
that's
the
only
question
I
had
just
to
make
that
clear,
which
you
certainly
did.
Are
there
other
members
of
the
committee
are
visiting
members
of
council
wishing
to
ask
miss
Burch
questions?
Okay.
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
submission.
I
know
we're
gonna
hear
from
others,
but
we
have
preached
that
and
we
do
appreciate
your
your
continued
activism
on
this
in
this
area.
B
N
B
E
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
good
morning
and
good
morning
to
members
of
the
executive
committee,
my
name
is
bill:
Loman
I'm,
a
tenant
at
in
Toronto
housing,
I'm,
also
a
member
of
sake,
which
is
a
seniors
advisory
and
advocacy
council,
which
previously
was
seniors
voice
and
advocacy
group
that
it
speaks
with
from
represent
seniors.
Please
understand
this
morning.
My
words
are
not
meant
as
an
attack
on
staff
or
the
positive
results
from
the
youth
programs.
E
During
his
remarks
to
this
body,
On
January
26,
2016
Senator
Eagleton,
stated
at
the
conclusion
of
his
task
fort
report
to
you.
Mr.
mayor,
he
spoke
about
developing
a
customer
service
culture
to
serve
the
residents
better
and
give
tenants
a
stronger
voice
in
the
governance
system.
I
fail
to
see
an
appreciation
for
his
sentiments
and
this
secretive,
masa
Nations
of
tenants.
First,
it
seemed
to
crop
up
every
year
when
the
snow
melts
with
cheers
ask
of
counsel
and
offering
tenets
little
time
to
parse.
E
These
proposed
changes,
they've
manipulated
and
codified
procedures
of
democracy
so
that
they
could
appoint
our
tenant
directors,
and
this
is
just
one
perceived
example
of
the
disdain
that
tenants,
particularly
seniors,
have
received
throughout
the
unfolding
of
this
tenants.
First
process
housing,
the
citywide
refresh
subcommittee,
in
conjunction
with
and
at
the
direction
of
tenants.
E
The
tenant
charter
was
disavowed
by
staff
and
tossed
into
a
closet
for
two
years
and
is
now
being
brought
out
and
used
as
a
cudgel
to
hold
tenants
accountable
for
identifying
and
fixing
their
own
community
issues
through
a
newly
imposed
Community
Action
Plan
staff
are
no
longer
coordinators,
as
if
they
ever
were
for
seniors.
They
are
now
the
administrators
of
the
Community
Action
Plans
goals.
That
is
conscripted
tenants
are
expected
to
accomplish
for
their
communities.
E
Their
new
role
for
tenants
is
to
ensure
that
they
are
working
on
delivering
quality
homes,
creating
vibrant
communities
and
striving
for
service
excellence,
and
they
won't
be
eligible
for
any
type
of
funding
from
this
new
interim
funding
table
unless
it
is
specifically
in
line
with
the
agenda.
I
have.
E
So
basically,
the
tennis
FERS
plan
is
a
paradigm
for
seniors.
Last
youth
over
the
years
have
been
receiving
funding
sources,
recreation,
job
opportunities,
scholarships,
while
seniors
are
now
being
told
that
they
can
put
in
applications
for
paints
and
brushes
so
that
they
can
deliver
quality
homes
and
vibrant
communities.
E
B
B
O
B
O
You
very
much
good
morning,
Mira
Tori
counselors
staff
and
those
in
attendance
I
respectfully
submit
to
you
my
deputation
I'm,
a
seniors
advocate
in
the
chair
of
sake,
senior
advisory
and
advocacy
council,
valentina
and
Mahoney.
Our
Secretary
is
also
with
me.
The
separation
into
a
new
entity
is
paramount
in
the
success
of
a
senior
unit.
In
the
past,
everything
from
assistance
and
engagement
has
been
focused
on
youth.
The
word
senior
has
been
a
dirty
word.
O
There
is
the
perception
that
once
we
are
a
senior
our
worth
has
been
diminished
and
that
we
are
a
drain
on
the
economy.
Not
so
seniors
of
today
are
vibrant,
independent,
intelligent
educated
experienced
and
are
your
largest
source
of
volunteer
action.
We
contribute
hundreds
of
thousands
of
hours
of
volunteering.
We
keep
your
costs
down.
We
paid
our
way
in
the
past,
most
of
us
working
40
plus
hours
a
week
for
40
or
50
years
and
are
still
contributing
to
our
city
and
to
our
buildings
within
TCH,
see
most
of
us
agree
with
this
action
plan.
O
However,
in
a
sympathy
we
are
focused
on
the
changes
that
will
impact
on
the
approximately
28,000
seniors
living
in
TCH,
see
14,000
living
in
the
now
eighty-three
senior
buildings
across
your
city.
It's
imperative
that
we
are
actually
part
the
new
governance
and
our
voices
are
heard.
Staff
whose
intentions
are
good
but
are
living
in
a
different
life
cycle
cannot
possibly
recognize
that
seniors
are
a
different
breed.
We
know
how
to
be
engaged.
We
are
experts
at
managing
how
to
resolve
issues.
Please
do
not
dumb
us
down.
O
Yes,
some
of
us
need
vital
supports
in
home
care.
Some
of
us
would
be
recognized
for
who
we
are
and
what
we
contribute,
which
is
very
rarely
done.
This
plan
still
has
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions,
mostly
about
governance
and
essential
answers
to
our
well-being.
Examples
one.
Well,
we
have
a
commissioner
of
equity
to
work
with
us
if
a
life
crisis
occurs
and
we
fall
behind
in
our
rent.
Presently,
aute
works
with
our
tenants
to
ensure
that
evictions
for
rent
arrears
is
kept
to
a
minimum.
O
O
Five,
with
City
stop
dropping
streets
to
home
scam,
each
versus
into
our
senior
buildings,
making
our
buildings
vulnerable
due
to
anti-social
behavior
six.
Will
this
model
consider
transitional
housing
to
assist
persons
mentioned
in
five
to
learn
life
skills
to
live
independently
before
being
moved
into
our
senior
buildings
and
making
them
vulnerable.
O
Seven
will
supportive
housing
with
agencies
supporting
the
above
individuals
24/7
be
fitted
into
your
new
model.
Eight.
Well,
your
new
model
ensure
quiet
enjoyment
of
our
tendencies
as
per
our
leases
and
nine.
The
biggest
question
of
all
will
there
be
transparency,
accountability,
respect
equity
and
equality?
I
want
to
thank
everyone
here
for
allowing
me
to
puke
on
this
matter.
B
O
B
B
Again,
you're,
you
do
you
understand
the
the
purpose
behind
this
is
actually
to
fulfill
a
lot
of
what
you
spoke
about,
which
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
sort
of
trying
to
hive
off
or
push
off
seniors
to
some
unknown
place,
but
rather
to
put
them
or
have
them
in
a
structural
unit
within
the
context
of
our
social
housing
programs
that
allows
us
to,
with
the
other
governments,
quite
frankly,
to
deliver
whatever
services
people
need
in
a
more
effective
manner.
Then
it
would
be
the
case
if
we
didn't
have
separate.
O
B
O
B
B
B
P
O
What
I'm
saying
that
they
should
have
24/7
support?
Unfortunately,
most
CAMH
are
streets
to
homes
that
have
a
caseworker
case.
Where
comes
in
for
a
half
an
hour
every
week
or
every
two
weeks,
these
people
escalate
at
night
on
weekends,
on
holidays,
not
when
stuff
is
available
right.
What
we're
saying
is
teaching
life
skills
very
similar
to
the
penitentiary
system
with
halfway
houses.
I'm
not
saying
they
shouldn't
have
a
home
I'm
saying
that
has
to
be
done.
Smarter
right.
P
O
O
Being
paid,
unfortunately,
some
of
our
buildings,
streets
to
homes
or
km/h
patients
have
moved
into
our
buildings
and
the
whole
building
has
become
terrorized
I'm,
saying
that
they
have
to
be
taught
life
skills.
They
haven't
been
involved
in
the
actual
day-to-day
living
of
living
independently
and
I.
Think
it's
very
important
that
supportive
housing
or
transitional
housing
be
implemented
by
the
city.
So.
K
So
this
idea
this
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
I'm,
sorry
to
hear
about
your
any
interactions
that
may
have
led
you
to
think
that
this
isn't
to
increase
the
focus
on
seniors,
and
that
is
my
understanding.
That's
my
intention.
When
I've
looked
at
this
and
for
that,
it
would
be
to
increase
the
focus
on
seniors
as
a
standalone
unit
right
and
to
make
sure
things
improve,
rather
than
not
get
worse.
But
some
of
the
situations
that
you've
described
understand
I.
K
Change
that
would
make
things
worse.
That's
right,
each
to
me
correct
it's
better
that
other!
Basically,
what
you're,
just
and
you're
concerned
about
the
oach.
If
this
moves
over
that
there
would
be
no
more
oats.
So,
yes,
the
the
person
who
is
charged
with
ensuring
that
nobody
is
evicted
because
they
didn't
fill
out
papers
and
all
of
those
kinds
of
that's
correct,
a
person
would
travel.
O
Whether
it's
unit
I
think
it's
very
important
for
oats
to
be
involved
in
the
senior
unit,
because
seniors
are
vulnerable
and
let's
face
it
with
aging.
They
forget
the
documents
they
to
get
the
proper
documents
and
to
be
evicted
for
rent
arrears
because
of
it
or
even
seniors
that
have
transferred
from
ODSP
into
this
CPP.
Where
there's
a
large
settlement,
given
the
money
is
bent
and
then
the
senior
is
way
behind
in
arrears.
Oak
can
step
in
and
they
can
make
a
repayment
plan
to
save
the
tenant,
their
tenancy
and.
K
O
O
B
You
councillor
Fletcher,
are
there
other
visiting
councillors
or
members
of
the
committee
who
wish
to
ask
questions
of
this
deputy
okay,
seeing
none
I
will.
Thank
you
very
much
chef.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
deputation.
Thank
you
then
go
back
then
I
guess
Doris
Power
has
been
moved
down
to
and
will
not
be
heard
from
now.
We
heard
from
later
on
when
we
come
back
to
this
item.
Is
that
right?
Okay?
B
So
that's
fine,
then
that
completes
the
deputations
we're
going
to
hear
at
this
time
on
this
item
and
we
will
then
revert,
as
we
had
previously
announced
to
beginning
item
7.5,
the
Don
Mills
planning
and
recreation
facilities
for
the
Don
Mills
communities,
and
we
have
deputies
on
this
there's
ten,
and
so
we
will
hear
first
from
a
deal.
Patel
friends
of
flemington,
Park,
I.
Think.
A
B
A
B
Yes,
you're
quite
the
deputy
mayor
is
part
right.
There
was
a
very
brief
presentation
from
the
staff
about
the
item
so
that,
with
all
the
people
here,
everybody
would
know
what
we're
talking
about
those
who
are
more
familiar
with
it
than
others.
So
I
would
ask
that
the
staff
come
and
make
that
short
presentation
and
then
we'll
have
mr.
Patel
sorry
about
that.
H
Q
You
mr.
mayor
just
to
introduce
the
brief
presentation
that
we're
gonna
do
a
marine
as
er
just
to
introduce
the
project
team
on
this,
a
marine
as
er
who's,
our
director
of
parks,
planning
and
capital
projects,
john
and
revé,
ski
from
the
city
planning,
who's,
a
manager
of
community
planning
and
how
we
did
an
emery
is
going
to
take
us
through
the
short
presentation.
H
Good
morning,
so
the
report
before
you
focuses
on
planning
recreation
facilities
in
the
Don
Mills
community.
When
we
look
at
the
planning
for
these
facilities,
and
particularly
looking
at
it
now,
we've
basically
done
a
review
of
the
demographics
and
also
put
an
equity
lens
in
terms
of
the
population
of
the
area.
H
Currently,
we've
also
looked
at
the
growth
which
I'll
give
you
a
snapshot
of
we've
looked
at
the
new
opportunities
that
that
growth
has
resulted
in
and
we've
also,
since,
we've
also
looked
at
the
facilities
master
plan,
which
was
approved
by
council
in
2017
and
the
design
best
practices
that
we've
come
forward
on
community
recreation
facility
planning.
So
all
of
these
elements
collectively
have
informed
what
you
have
before
you
in
the
report
and
our
recommendations
when
we
look
at
the
demographics
of
the
corridor.
H
So
for
this
for
the
area
that
we
were
looking
at
in
terms
of
planning,
community
recreation
facilities,
we
looked
at
an
area
from
York
Mills,
the
da
Mills
da
Mills,
Road,
being
the
spine
of
this
area
and
basically
South
to
overlay
and
as
with
other
communities
across
the
city.
This
area
is
very
diverse
in
terms
of
its
population.
It
has
a
current
population
of
approximately
46,000
people
in
the
southern
portion
of
the
corridor.
We
have
our
Flemington
Park
community,
which
is
a
neighborhood
improvement
area
and
there's
a
currently.
H
So
it
shows
that,
when
we're
planning
for
these
facilities,
we
have
to
look
at
the
overall
demographic
mix
of
the
communities
that
we're
planning,
for
we
also
look
at
growth.
This
area
has
undergone
a
lot
of
change
and,
in
the
report,
there's
a
reflection
of
a
pre,
an
agreement
that
happened
in
2010
as
a
result
of
the
shops
of
John
Mills
development.
H
The
blue
dot
represents
the
growth
that
was
planned
for
this
area
at
the
shops
of
Don
Mills
and
around
2010,
which
basically
shows
around
2000
units
of
a
residential
development,
and
that
was
the
vision
at
the
time.
We
didn't
anticipate
the
type
of
the
range
of
growth
that
the
area
was
going
to
be
experiencing.
H
As
I
mentioned,
when
you
have
growth,
you
have
up
new
opportunities.
So
once
again,
in
2010
there
was
a
site
identified
for
a
community
facility
at
the
shops
of
JA
males,
and
it
is
approximately
one
acre
in
size.
We
recently
through
the
approval
of
the
silastic
of
development,
secured
a
5.5
acre
park,
parcel
that
approval
basically
got
l-pad
approval
earlier
in
January
of
this
year,
but
was
before
council
last
spring.
H
H
That
was,
we
were
looking
that
was
on,
that
is
on
the
shops
of
da
mill
site,
and
we
had
to
look
for
another
site
in
the
da
mills
community
and
it
took
us
quite
a
while
to
find
another
site
that
was
suitable
for
a
future
twin
pad
arena
and
we
had
tentative.
We
had
got
Council's
approval
of
that
in
2016
and
then,
when
we
looked
at
planning
recreation
facilities,
now
we
looked
at
the
opportunity
that
this
site
would
have
in
terms
of
housing,
a
multi-component
community
facility
to
serve
the
growing
area.
H
When
we
look
at
the
two
sites,
I
will
show
you
in
the
next
slide
the
different
facilities,
but
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
the
the
distance
between
the
two
sites,
it's
approximately
a
column
and
are
a
little
less
between
the
two
sites.
Our
service
catchment
area
for
recreation
facilities
is
2.5,
it's
a
2.5
kilometre
catchment
area
and
what
we
are
basically
in
the
preferred
facility
model.
Looking
at
locating
the
community
recreation
facility
to
serve
the
entire
corridor
at
the
Celestra,
co
site
and
I'll
go
through
the
components
of
that.
But
we.
H
What
we
are
also
doing
is
recommending
that
the
site
at
the
shops
of
da
mills
remain
for
public
community
use,
as
it
is
a
land
exchange
for
the
Civitan
that
currently
exists
on
the
shops
of
dom
mill
site.
The
alternate
proposal
which
I'll
get
to
into
in
another
site,
showed
us
splitting
up
the
facility
into
into
two
different
facilities,
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
slide.
So
the
preferred
facility
proposal
we
went
out
and
we
engaged
with
the
community
on
these
two
proposals
and
a
question
has
often
come
up.
H
Well,
why
did
you
call
it
the
preferred
facility
could
proposal?
Well
when
we
were
looking
at
the
different
alternatives
we
came,
we
did
it
our
full
analysis,
and
we
realized
that
this
really
is
the
preferred
facility.
It
is
located
in
a
large
park
allowing
for
the
synergies
between
the
public
park
and
the
community
facility,
and
we
felt
that
it
could
probably
be
designed
and
planned
for
this
facility
for
this
area
to
truly
serve
the
growth
and
change
in
the
area
and
the
existing
community
needs
the
facility
components
that
are
include
in
the
preferred
facility.
H
It's
a
large
integrated
facility,
it
co,
locates,
a
twin
ice
pad
that
is
also
would
also
be
used
during
the
off-season
for
as
a
multi-sport
plex.
It
includes
community
spaces.
It
includes
a
gymnasium,
it
includes
a
double
tank
pool
that
would
be
similar
to
the
Pam
McConnell
aquatic
facility
and
it
would
basically
create
one
integrated,
seamless
user
experience,
providing
multiple
opportunities
for
people
to
stay
in
play,
allowing
for
longer
operating
hours
to
manage
people's
very
precious
personal
time.
H
The
alternate
proposal
looked
at
basically
two
facilities,
one
of
the
shops
of
dawn
Mills,
of
about
27,000
square
feet.
That
would
be
a
gymnasium
with
multi
with
some
multi
program
spaces,
a
program
rooms,
purpose
rooms,
excuse
me
and
then
at
the
silastic
o
site
it
would
have
the
twin
pad
arena.
The
large
aquatic
facility,
with
sort
of
a
smaller
number
of
program,
multi-purpose
rooms-
and
we
looked
at
this
proposal
because
we
did
distill
and
cancel
II.
Consider
what
was
proposed
was
thought
about
in
2010
in
terms
of
planning
for
this
community
and
seeing
what
what?
H
What
alternate
we
could
consider-
and
one
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
with
the
alternate
proposal-
is
we're
dividing
up
a
recreation
facility
between
two
different
sites.
So
it
requires
people
to
go
to
two
different
sites
to
access
their
facility,
also
by
co-locating
the
gym
with
the
pool
and
the
multi-sport
Plex
/
Ice
Arena.
We
would
have
staff
in
place
to
you,
know
instantly
program
and
create
synergies
and
opportunities
for
communities
in
that
large
facility.
H
So
for
us,
there's
that
seamlessness
in
terms
of
operations
and
that
seamlessness
in
terms
of
user
experience
that
we've
heard
again
and
again
that
people
expect
often
we
are
often
challenged
by
our
smaller
community
facilities,
programming
it
and
bringing
people
to
those
facilities
and
satisfying
their
needs.
So
that's
why
we
felt
that
we
had
to
be
transparent
when
we
owned
it
went
out
to
the
public
and
we-
and
we
spoke
about
the
preferred
facility
model
and
that's
what
is
recommended
in
the
report.
H
We
did
public
engagement,
we
went
out.
We
did
four
stakeholder
meetings,
we
did
six
pop-ups.
We
did
a
big
open
house
where
we
had
to
present
a
shion's
and
525
people
engaged.
We
found
that
the
majority
of
those
engaged
express
preference
for
the
preferred
facilities
one-stop-shop
convenient,
efficient,
accessible.
We
took
we
took
efforts
to
engage
with
youth
in
the
area.
H
You
know
popped
up
in
shopping
shopping,
centers,
everybody
gets
their
groceries
and
they
have
an
opinion
on
their
way
in
and
their
way
out,
and
but
we
also
heard
to
be
fair
from
the
Don
Mills
rate
payers
Association
and
the
the
some
of
the
residents
at
Damas
and
Lawrence
that
they
really
actually
didn't
like
either
option.
They
preferred
the
facility
that
was
planned
and
they
were
part
of
planning
in
2010,
and
so
that's
that
was
part
of
these.
H
So
we
had
a
bit
of
a
geographic
kind
of
response
which
is
not
unusual
and
any
type
of
exercise
that
we
engage
in,
but
we,
but
we
did
hear
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
on
the
preferred
facility.
So
in
terms
of
the
recommendations
we
are
recommending
the
preferred
integrative
facility
be
located
on
the
Celestia
site.
We
believe
that
this
represents
a
generational
investment
for
recreation.
It
will
be
one
of
the
most
unique
recreation
facilities
in
the
city
and
we're
very
excited
about
advancing
that
the
development
of
this
facility.
H
We
also
recognize
that
there
are
a
variety
of
planning
approvals
that
will
be
required.
We
will
have
to
look
and
the
recommendation
to
reflects
those
section
37
agreement.
The
zoning
bylaw
has
a
level
of
detail
that
we
it's
not
a
best
practice
now,
but
in
in
those
days
they
included
certain
square
footage.
We
would
look
at
the
opportune.
We
would
also
want
to
review
the
opportunity
for
new
community
use
of
the
shops
of
DA
mill
site.
We
recognize
that
there
is
an
interest
in
that.
H
Having
that
community
use
of
that
site
and
we're
looking
between
with
real
estate
and
create
Co
and
ourselves
and
planning
to
have
that
conversation
with
the
community
and
come
up
with
a
proposal,
we
would
like
to
extend
the
domville
Civitan
arena
in
the
section
37
agreement.
It
was
it
slated
to
cease
operations
in
2020.
B
We'll
have
you
stand
down
and
we'll
hear
the
deputations
and
then,
as
there
may
be
questions
that
will
come
from
the
committee
members
that
we
would
want
to
ask
the
staff
after
we
for
the
deputations
you'll,
be
available
to
answer
the
questions
at
that
time.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
and
we
will
now
proceed
to
hear
from
the
members
of
the
public
who
have
come
today
and
there's
been
some
reordering
again
of
the
speaker's
list
here.
J
J
The
32nd
37
section
37
agreement
was
explicit
in
that
Cadillac
Fairview
agreed
to
provide
the
land
for
the
community
center
to
provide
17
million
dollars
indexed
from
2010
to
build
the
community
center
to
select
a
not-for-profit
operator
to
to
operate
it
for
49
years
and
to
do
all
of
this
by
October
of
2020.
Penalties
were
built
into
the
agreement.
J
If
Cadillac
Fairview
failed
to
deliver
on
that
agreement
in
2017,
the
DM
RI,
Cadillac
Fairview
and
the
city
staff
were
working
together
to
implement
the
agreement
in
October
of
2017
parks
and
recreation
master
plan
for
the
next
20
years
was
approved
by
City
Council
and
in
that
the
community
center
at
the
shops
of
Don
Mills
was
identified
as
an
approved
and
funded
community
center
and
then
in
January
of
2000.
The
city
abruptly
stopped
meeting
with
the
DMR
I
and
Cadillac
fairview.
They
embarked
on
the
plan
recommended
to
you
today,
ignoring
the
legally
binding
agreement.
J
He
roped
the
DMR
I,
confirming
his
support
for
building
the
community
center
at
the
shops
of
Don
Mills.
The
city
did
not
actually
consult
with
the
about
the
silastic
of
facility.
Instead,
through
a
series
of
pop
ups
and
one
open
house,
the
city
promoted
its
preferred
option
of
the
larger
facility,
as
you
just
heard,
versus
an
alternative
of
a
smaller
facility.
J
The
city
did
not
mention
what
would
be
lost
by
there
by
their
recommendation
in
what
would
be
lost
is
the
Cadillac
Fairview
has
to
build
the
community
center
in
our
place.
Cadillac
Fairview
has
to
provide
parking,
cadillac
Fairview
has
to
deal
with
site
cleanup
and
they
provide
an
operator
for
49
years.
The
city's
process
was
an
engagement
process
and
not
a
consultation
process.
It
was
flawed
and
therefore
the
outcome
was
flawed.
J
Now
we
understand
the
change
is
inevitable,
but
when
change
occurs,
the
city
has
an
obligation,
both
legally
and
ethically,
to
negotiate
with
the
original
parties
to
an
agreement.
The
city
is
treating
the
DM
RI
and
the
Don
Mills
community,
much
like
the
Ford
government
is
treating
the
City
of
Toronto.
Neither
is
acceptable.
So
in
summary,
then,
the
process
for
the
preferred
option
was
flawed,
where
there
is
a
legally
binding
agreement.
The
chain
changes
to
it
need
to
be
negotiated.
The
recommendations
are
also
flawed.
J
J
The
section
37
funds
were
intended
to
compensate
the
central
donald's
community
for
the
increased
height
and
density
of
the
residential
component
of
the
shops
and
the
community,
since
a
community
center
at
the
shops
is
walkable
for
most
of
Central
Don
Mills,
including
students
at
the
local
schools
and
seniors
central
Don
Mills
needs
a
community
center.
Now
it
was
promised
it
and
it
should
get
it.
A
deal
is
a
deal.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
very
much
mr.
story:
are
there
some
weird?
We
don't.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
don't.
We
don't
have
applause
here
or
cheering
or
booing
we
just
we
can
wave
our
hands
if
we
think
that
was
a
good
point,
but
we
just
don't
have
that
because
otherwise
would
turn
into
a
circus.
So
there
are,
there
may
be
some
questions.
I
have
some
I,
don't
know.
If
others
have
some
could
I.
Just
ask
you
a
couple
of
questions.
B
You
talked
a
lot
about
the
money
and
where
the
money
was
going
to
come
from,
if
they
just
put
a
hypothetical
to
you,
if
there
was
a
public
process
which
our
staff
in
that
presentation,
you
just
heard
alluded
to
to
determine
a
future
public
use
for
this
land.
If
you
went
ahead
with
what's
recommended
here
and
if,
within
the
context
of
that
of
that
process,
there
was
money
allocated
in
our
capital
budget
for
whatever
use,
whatever
public
use
might
have
been
suggested
for
that
land.
B
Would
your
concern
about
the
money
then
go
away
because
it
sounds
like
that?
Particular
concern
is
about
where
the
money's
going
and
if
we
said
well,
look,
there's
going
to
be
money
as
a
city,
we're
gonna
put
money
into
whatever
public
use
the
community
and
the
city
decide
should
be
done.
If
we
proceeded
with
this
recommendation.
Would
that
eliminate
your
concern
about
the
money
I
mean.
J
When
you
say
put
money,
what
our
view
is
is
there's
seventeen
million
dollars
inflated
to
today
and
I,
don't
quite
frankly,
know
how
much
that
is,
there's
an
additional
three
million
and
five
hundred
and
fifty
thousand.
If,
if
we
had
that
that
money,
if
the
city
said
we're
prepared
to
spend
that
money
in
Don,
Mills
and
and
we
can
work
with
the
staff
to
design
that
the
best
facility
began
there,
our
concern
would
go
away.
B
Okay,
that's
sort
of
why?
Okay,
the
second
question
is
I.
Just
wanted
you
to
I
hope,
I
hope
to
acknowledge,
because
I
thought,
the
staff.
You
know
there's
often
presentations
we
receive
here
where
there
is
not
acknowledgement
necessarily
of
the
fact
there
were
other
opinions.
You
know
they
sort
of
speak
for
the
majority
opinion,
but
I,
but
they
just
did
acknowledge
and
I'm
sure
they
would
have
done
it
at
a
much
greater
length.
But
we
wanted
the
presentation
to
be
fairly
brief,
that
there
was
a
specific
knowledge
meant
of
the
fact.
B
There
was
a
different
opinion
that
was
gathered
and
I
would
consider
that
to
be
consultation,
whatever
people
think
about
who
was
selling
what
I
wasn't
there,
but
but
that
they
specifically
acknowledged
in
their
report
to
us
today
and
in
the
report
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
that
there
was
a
different
opinion.
So
I
just
want
to
be
fair
to
them
in
terms
of
the
fact
that
they
that
that
I
would
consider
that
to
be
a
consultation
where
they
report
to
us
on
both
opinions.
J
B
I
J
I
J
Dumb
Milton
Lawrence,
it
would
be
slightly
over
a
kilometer.
The
the
key
thing,
though,
is
that
the
shops
at
Don
Mills
is
in
the
center
of
Don
Mills.
So
the
way
Don
Mills
is
designed
is
we
have
walkways
to
the
center,
so
that
kilometer
is
in
addition
to
getting
to
the
to
the
center.
So
if
people
were
to
walk
from
Don
Mills,
they
would
have
to
walk
to
the
center
and
then
walk
down
the
busy
a
kilometer
to
the
right.
Now.
I
As
part
of
the
home
site
plan
process
with
respect
to
the
development
of
the
shops
at
Don,
Mills
at
the
time
were
the
residents-
and
you
just
talked
a
little
bit
about
pathways
with
respect
to
the
location
where
those
all
sort
of
incorporated
as
part
of
the
plan
design,
so
that
the
community
would
be
able
to
simply
walk
to
the
proposed
or
new
facility
that
would
be
designed
for
community
amenities.
Are.
I
I
B
B
R
R
R
R
First,
the
centrality
of
the
location,
the
integrated
one-stop
shopping,
a
seamless
in
services
that
will
be
available
for
the
all
the
community
and
in
also,
if
you,
if
you
really
divide
that
facility-
and
you
will
end
up
being
try
every
one
of
that
community
will
be
travelling
different
locations
to
access
different
and
some
of
those
services.
So
having
a
one.
R
Integrated
facility
in
the
community
will
really
make
significant
and
impact
to
the
community,
the
community
and
has
a
large
population
of
seniors
and
both
in
Flemington
Park,
but
also-
and
we
believe
the
song
cliff
community
will
benefit
from
this
facility.
We
have
been
waiting
for
a
long
time.
We
have
not
been
vocal
and
I
understand
in
other
community
has
been
vocal,
but
I
think
the
community
has
showed
a
lot
of
patience
and
we
hope
we
hope
the
preferred
option
that
the
city
staff
has
recommended
and
will
be
the
one
that
the
council
would
recommend.
B
B
S
S
S
This
was
negotiated.
There
was
fans
available
and,
very
importantly,
there
was
a
time
frame
when
this
community
center
would
happen.
2020
deadline.
Now,
that's
probably
not
there
and
the
fact
that
the
negotiations
between
the
city,
the
MRI
and
carakweh
we
stopped
the
of
2017
delayed
the
beginning
of
the
process.
The
problem
is
the
this
wonderful
integrated,
seamless
Center.
Is
that
there's
basically
no
time
frame
for
when
this
vendors
is
going
to
happen,
and
is
it
really
going
to
be
in
the
location
location
where
it
is
shown
now?
S
Now
the
center,
which
was
negotiated
at
the
donut
shop,
stopped
at
Don
Mills,
it's
48,000
570
square
feet
and
the
actual
community
center
at
silastic
aside,
is
only
around
60,000
square
feet,
so
the
community
center,
that's
excluding
the
twin
paths,
so
the
Donalds
community
center-
it's
not
not
terribly
small
demographics.
There
was
the
demographics
was
provided
by
the
in
the
staff
report,
which
deals
on
neighborhood
with
the
density
and
income.
S
What
is
missing
is
the
distribution
of
the
population
by
age,
and
this
is
very
significant,
because
a
community
center
silastic
aside
may
limit
access
access
to
many
seniors
in
Donald's
community
and
also
access
of
the
school
children
to
programs.
After-School
public
consultation.
There
have
been
discussion
about
public
consultation
and
there
are
lots
of
flaws
in
the
public
public
consultation.
They
were
more
like
presentation
and
it's
hard
to
make
consultation
effective
if
there
is
already
a
solution,
so
the
prefer
facility
was
always
features.
S
S
How
do
we
see
the
Eglinton
and
Don
Mills
and
community
south
of
Eglinton
the
distances?
The
one
kilometer
distance,
which
is
in
the
report,
is
misleading,
as
in
Brian
Brian
talked
to
that
the
a
lot
of
communities
and
seniors
are
federal,
a
from
the
location
of
the
community
center
at
don
melzer
one
kilometer
is
much
greater
and
it
depends
on
the
design.
S
Now
the
feasibility
report
completely
dismisses
the
feasibility
of
the
community
center
at
Don
Mills.
It
states
that
there
are
insufficient
funds.
The
site
is
too
small
and
could
not
meet
our
a
Oda,
and
there
is
no
virus
that
parte
operator.
There
is
no
proof
that
either
of
these
three
points
are
true:
the
cost
and
accessibility
and
design
issue
our
design
issues,
and
there
is
a
always
a
solution
to
these.
S
B
B
Thank
you,
I'll.
Just
maybe
start
I'm
glad
you
made
that
last
point,
because
I
just
have
a
question
for
you.
First
of
all,
I
had
no
opinion.
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
even
discussed
this
with
anybody
before
the
report
came
here
to
us
about
all
this.
This
all
you
know
long
predates
me
here
at
the
City
Hall
and
I
heard
your
points
about
consultation,
but
I
presume
you
would
agree
with
me
that
it
it
is
a
it
is
a
legitimate
option
for
the
city
to
look
at
co-locating.
B
All
these
facilities
together
by
that
I
mean
the
arena,
plus
the
community
facilities,
pools,
gyms
and
so
forth.
From
the
standpoint
of
the
staffing
and
the
servicing
of
something
like
that
that
it's
a
legitimate
option
for
us
to
look
at
co-locating
them,
because
it
just
makes
sense
as
it
were
from
the
standpoint
of
how
we
run
these
things
going
forward
for
the
next
50
years.
I
presume,
you
think,
that's
a
legitimate
thing
for
us
to
be
doing
to
looking
at
that
option.
S
I
agree,
but
on
the
on
the
other
hand,
what
we
need
to
look
at
to
build
sustainable
communities,
we're
walking
distances
to
all
the
amenities
are
very
important
and
that
the
only
way
to
go
if
we
supposed
to
get
carbon
neutral,
neutral
City.
So
there
are
issues
related
with
accessibility
and
we
probably
need
another
Center
at
silastic
about
some
basic
center,
which
would
serve
Donald's
community
I.
Think
it's
important
well.
B
As
you've
acknowledged
the
validity
of
my
point,
I
acknowledge
the
validity
of
yours.
I
think
that's
a
valid
point
as
well.
It's
one
of
many
different
considerations,
but
the
other
question
I
would
ask
you
is
simply
this
I
assume
as
well
that
you
would
acknowledge
our
obligation
to
take
cost-effectiveness
into
account.
B
If
you
assume,
we
need
a
certain
quantity
of
community
facilities
located
in
the
sort
of
catchment
area
that
you
saw
in
those
maps
that
we
had
that
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
take
into
account
as
a
city
government
and
on
your
behalf
as
taxpayers,
is
cost-effectiveness
of
both
building
and
operating.
Something
like
that,
whether
it's
2
or
1
or
3.
We
have
to
take
cost-effectiveness
into
account.
I
assume
you
didn't
acknowledge
that
I
could.
S
B
Well,
those
are
all
the
questions.
I
had
other
others
who
had
questions
of
this
deputy,
otherwise.
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
patience
and
for
being
here
this
morning.
Next
was
Dorothy.
Pastel
from
tfcc
to
441,
live
lofts
condominium
corporation,
miss
pastel.
Are
you
there?
You
are
I,
think.
F
B
F
The
Oxford
Dictionary
defines
a
community
as
a
group
of
like-minded
people
communities,
not
a
physical
term.
It's
a
strong
and
emotional
feeling
of
belonging.
If
it
was
physical,
Lawrence
Park
would
be
considered
part
of
the
same
community
as
Yonge
and
Eglinton
simply
because
they're,
both
on
the
Yonge
Street
corridor.
F
Our
community
begins
just
north
of
York
Mills
Road
and
ends
at
Greenbelt,
Drive
and
Barber
Greene.
Our
community
does
not
include
Eglinton
Avenue
on
Thursday,
the
6th
of
June
430.
If
my
neighbors
packed
the
dawn
way,
covenant
United
Church
on
the
dawn
way
west
to
demand
that
our
community
finally
get
the
long-awaited
community
center.
The
communities
around
us
all
have
a
community
center
thorn,
cliff
Park,
Flemington,
Park
Banbury
community
under
hill
community
Graydon,
Hall
community
and
now
forest
Manor
community
also
has
a
community
center
of
its
own
where's
ours.
F
In
the
last
number
of
years,
the
Don
Mills
community
lost
its
curling
rink,
it's
bowling
alley
and
its
central
meeting
space,
the
Don
Mills
indoor
mall.
Soon
our
Civitan
arena
will
be
gone
as
well.
Why
are
we
the
only
community
who
doesn't
have
a
community
center?
Where
do
we
gather?
Eight
months
of
the
year,
we
have
nothing
yet
some
community.
Yes,
some
community
centers
are
beginning
to
show
their
age,
but
people
have
a
choice
to
go
to
those
centers
or
to
go
to
the
new
center
that
will
be
built.
F
F
F
How
will
the
residents
at
Eglinton
be
inconvenienced
by
this
seniors,
moved
out
of
their
houses
into
the
new
condo
secure
in
the
knowledge
that
they
would
have
one
day
soon,
they'd
be
able
to
walk
to
a
meeting
place
to
a
pool
and
to
a
climate
changed
indoor
walking
track?
This
is
a
document
in
our
disclosure
statement
of
all
the
condominium
buildings.
In
the
area
that
says
we're
getting
a
community
center,
there
are
many
young
families
at
our
June
6
meeting
and
as
well.
A
number
of
the
430
people
in
attendance
were
a
longtime.
F
Don
Mills
errs
most
of
lived
in
the
community
since
the
1960s
and
while
some
are
still
vibrant,
they
rely
on
walkers
to
get
around
now
our
counselor
suggested
they
could
walk
down
to
Don
Mills
Inn
at
Glendon,
or
it
would
only
to
bus
stop
ride.
How
can
you
get
a
walker
on
a
TTC,
and
how
can
you
walk
down
to
Don
Nelson
Eglinton,
with
a
walker
and
for
those
of
our
residents
that
live
closer
to
York,
Mills
Road?
It's
10:10
bus
stops
and
4
kilometres
down,
and
he
suggested
we
could
walk.
F
The
city
may
have
engaged
525
people
across
all
age
groups
have
all
over.
Most
of
them
were
outside
our
community
and
the
community.
Centers
was
is
being
pulled
from
an
end
appearance
outside
the
community,
whose
Community
Center
is
being
pulled
out
from
under
them.
We
want
the
community
center,
we've
been
waiting
for
demographics,
demographics
are
immaterial.
We
don't
expect
Flemington,
Park
or
cross
town
people
to
come
to
our
community
center.
F
We
don't
have
to
serve
20,000
people,
we
just
have
to
serve
the
local
community
hours
and
why
is
household
income
a
factor
at
all
we're
not
opposing
that
we're
not
opposing
the
creation
of
a
state-of-the-art
regional,
complex
across
town
I.
Think
it's
a
great
idea,
I
think
it's
great
for
Fleming
didn't
fart
in
a
fourth
Orrin
Clift
Park
and
whoever
wants
to
use
it,
but
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
our
community
center
I'd
like
everyone
to
acknowledge
the
raw
deal
that
we've
been
dealt.
F
A
F
Our
catchment
area-
that's
not
our
community.
Our
community
does
not
go
down
to
Eglinton.
Our
community,
as
I
mentioned,
is
a
feeling
of
like-minded
people.
We
are
a
very
strong
community.
We
will
never
belong
to
the
Crosstown
community.
So
that's
in
our
catchment
area
or
not
that's
a
catchment
area.
We
send
newsletters
that
far,
so
you
have
there
actually
is
nobody
living
there.
A
P
B
Could
I
just
ask
you
a
question
sort
of
along
the
same
lines:
I've
been
working
really
hard
since
I've.
Had
this
job
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
you
know:
I
did
live
in
Lawrence
Park
at
one
time.
My
life
and
I
understand
that
that
was
a
sort
of
a
community
in
the
context
in
which
you
were
referring
to
it.
B
But
I've
been
working
really
hard
in
this
job
to
make
sure
that
we
all
felt-
and
we
all
feel
across
the
city,
because
it's
one
of
the
real
difficulties
we've
had
in
an
amalgamated
City-
is
that
people
feel
they're
all
part
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
and
you
would
acknowledge
that,
while
you
may
be
part
of
the
Don
Mills
community,
you're
also
part
of
the
City
of
Toronto,
of
which
Eglinton
and
Don
Mills,
and
for
that
matter,
Don,
Mills
and
New,
York,
Mills
or
Don,
Mills
and
Shepherd.
These
are
all
part
of
the
city.
F
We're
not
opposing
the
the
regional
community
center
at
Eglinton,
we're
not
opposing
that
it's
a
great
idea,
but
every
area
surrounding
the
Don
Mills
community
at
Don,
Mills
and
Lawrence
has
its
own
community
center.
They
just
had
it
one
built
at
Forest,
Manor
and
there's
going
to
be
one
at
vissarion
and
there's
what
the
community
center
in
Banbury
and
all
around
us,
except
for
the
Don,
Mills
and
Lawrence
area,
were
the
only
ones
that
don't
have
a
community
center.
F
Our
people
at
Don,
Mills
and
Lawrence
and
north
of
the
Lawrence
can't
walk
down
to
Don,
Mills
and
Eglinton.
A
lot
of
our
our
seniors
are
using
walkers.
It
was
suggested
by
Denzil
that
we
could
walk
down,
or
it
was
only
a
two
trip
bed
to
ride
bus
drive.
You
can't
get
a
walker
on
the
TTC,
so
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
if
we
don't
get
our
community
center,
as
has
been
promised
to
us
for
the
last
ten
years
and
for
which
we
have
the
money
to
build.
F
If
it's
not
stolen
from
us,
our
people
in
the
Don,
Mills
and
Lawrence
area
will
not
have
a
community
center.
We
cannot
go
down
to
that
one.
We
will
not
go
to
that
one
anyway.
We
don't
feel
it's
part
of
our
community.
All
we
want
is
what
we've
been
promised
all
the
condos
in
that
whole
area
surrounding
the
shops
of
Don
Mills
bought
in
there,
because
there
was
going
to
be
a
community
center.
F
I
worked
with
Fram
building
when
we
built
the
whole
of
the
shops
at
Don
Mills,
and
we
decided
that
we
were
going
to
put
in
swimming
pools
in
those
buildings
or
a
lot
of
amenities,
because
we
were
going
to
have
a
community
center.
That
was
the
idea
that
there
weren't
swimming
pools
put
in
those
buildings
everybody's
waiting
for
their
community
center.
We
have
eight
public
junior
schools
in
the
Don
Nelson
Laurance
area
that
can
walk
to
a
community
center
at
Don,
Mills
and
Lawrence.
F
There
are
no
schools,
nor
will
there
be
any
schools
that
can
walk
to
a
community
center
at
Don,
Mills
and
Eglinton
Donald's
and
Eglinton
Community
Center
is
going
to
have
lots
of
people
go
to
it.
That's
fine,
that's
lovely!
But
it's
not
going
to
be
us.
It's
not
going
to
be
our
schools
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
walk
in
the
middle
of
the
south
in
the
middle
of
the
school
year
and
take
lessons
or
whatever
it
is.
F
They
do
at
a
community
center
and
then
go
back
to
their
school
or
walk
from
their
home
to
the
community
center.
The
parents
aren't
going
to
let
children
get
on
the
bus
or
walk
down
to
Eglinton
from
Don,
Mills
and
Lawrence.
All
we're
asking
for
is
our
own
little
local
community
center.
We
don't
care
what
you
build
down
at
Edmonton.
We've
got
the
money
indexed
from
2010.
We've
got
enough
money
with
all
the
section
37
money
with
the
post
office
site
and
the
other
building
going
up
just
down
the
street.
F
We
can
put
up
our
own
community
center
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
read
in
some
of
the
documents
was
that
our
community
center
plan
wasn't
very
good
because
the
the
swimming
pool
was
going
to
be
in
the
basement.
Well,
I've
got
a
copy
of
it
and
the
swimming
pool
is
not
in
the
basement.
It's
on
the
main
level
and
two
of
the
walls
are
window
walls
one
facing
south
one
facing
West.
This
was
a
concept
was
never
designed
to
be
in
the
basement.
F
It
was
designed
to
have
natural
light
to
come
in
I,
don't
know
where
that
idea
came
from
to
start
with
and
also
if
it
was
such
a
bad
idea.
Why
is
the
city
using
the
same
design
team
to
build
the
community
center
at
Eglinton
if
they
didn't
like
the
design
team
that
was
building
the
center
at
Lawrence?
It's
the
same
team,
it's
Giannone
and
Petra
ciccone
or
whatever
it's
called
it's
the
same
team.
That's
building
the
one
down
there,
but
they
didn't
think
they
were
good.
Why
would
they
choose
the
same
company?
Thank.
B
D
Morning,
mayor
Torre,
deputy
mayor,
madam
Wang
and
executive
committee
members,
my
name
is
Adel
Patel
I
am
the
vice
chair
of
the
Friends
of
flemington
Park
FoF
is
a
grassroots
Association
in
partnership
with
local
agencies
and
partners
supports
the
residents
of
Lebanon
Park.
We
act
as
community
leaders
and
provide
a
strong
voice
for
the
Flemington
Park
community.
D
I
won't
take
a
bunch
of
your
time,
but
I
am
here
to
represent
residents
of
Lebanon
Park
or
in
support
of
the
city's
preferred
option
for
the
proposed
125,000
square
foot,
dumbells
community
recreation
center
at
Damas
and
Eglinton,
honest
ELISA
commands.
We
have
held
many
community
meetings
with
residents,
discussed
their
preference
and
can
report
to
you
that
there
is
an
even
ominous
approval
of
the
city's
preferred
option.
D
Residents
have
signed
petitions
to
indicate
support
for
the
larger
community
center
option.
The
current
community
center
of
Lebanon
Park,
the
Dennis
R
Trimble
resource
and
community
center
does
not
meet
the
needs
of
the
twenty-five.
Twenty-Five
thousand
plus
people
in
the
vicinity
of
Lebanon
par
facility
needs
to
the
begin
repairs.
We
understand
that
the
city
is
committed
to
maintaining
the
community
center
in
Flemington,
but
we
will
have
to
wait
for
me
to
represent
to
the
option
that
is
approved
today.
It's
built
own
Dumbo's
corridor
includes
fern
Park
and
Platinum
Park.
D
The
preferred
option
is
is
also
the
best
models
who
served
the
total
community
of
tall
Mills,
not
just
the
residents
between
Lawrence
already,
when
the
dawn
way.
We
certainly
understand
and
are
sympathetic
to
dumbbells
residents
association,
who
supports
the
alternate
proposal:
option
smaller
community
senator
Darwin
Thomas
was
promised
to
the
DM
RI,
but
as
cities
evolved
over
the
years,
so
too
must
the
city
plans
have
served
the
greater
needs
and
the
ever
expanding
population
within
the
city.
The
larger
facility
would
be
state-of-the-art,
one
of
the
largest
facilities
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
D
We
acknowledge
the
community's
play
an
important
role
in
the
development
and
contributions
toward
city
planning.
We
are
here
today
for
this
reason.
This
is
once
in
a
generational
opportunity.
We
believe
the
right
thing
to
do
is
build
a
livable
city.
A
stated
mission
of
the
City
of
Toronto
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
all
the
tino,
youth
and
seniors
that
came
out
to
support
today.
This
morning,
it's
been
a
long
day
for
them.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
along
with
me
to
speak
on
behalf
of
our
community.
Thank
you.
B
B
T
Now
known
as
the
shops
of
Don
Nellis,
the
closed
mall
was
a
community
mall
where
people
would
congregate.
Visit,
have
coffee
shop
and
walk
around
the
neighborhood.
An
area
has
changed
dramatically
since
Cadillac
Fairview
came
on
the
scene
once
it
was
known
that
there
was
going
to
be
condos
built
to
accommodate
roughly
2,500
people
in
the
quadrant
bordered
by
Don
Mills
Lawrence,
Avenue
East
and
the
Don
way
West
DMR
I
was
constantly.
On
top
of
the
situation.
Fighting
the
proposes
density.
T
I
quote
from
the
spring
2019
article
in
the
DMR
I
news
in
2010,
we
negotiated
an
agreement
regarding
the
Phase
two
of
the
shops
of
Don
Mills.
There
were
three
parties
to
this
agreement:
Cadillac
Fairview,
the
city
and
DMR
I
that
agreement
included,
among
other
things,
a
commitment
by
Cadillac
Fairview
in
the
city
of
to
build
a
community
center
at
the
northwest
corner
of
Don
knows
Road
in
the
Don
way.
West
seventeen
million
dollars
indexed
was
set
aside
to
build
the
community
center.
T
The
essential
issue
now
is
that
the
city
is
attempting
to
move
the
money
allocated
for
our
community
center
at
the
shop
services
to
the
Celeste
occur
site
where
it
would
be
combined
with
one
plan
there
that
community
center
will
include
a
twin
powder
arena
which
will
replace
the
arena
at
the
shop.
Prior
to
the
recent
municipal
election,
we
had
a
letter
from
councilor
Denzil
menon
long,
which
stated
his
support,
and
I
have
this
letter
dated
September
the
21st
2018
sent
to
mr.
T
Eric
Conn
president
of
D
MRI,
which
says
based
on
the
strong
support
from
the
Don
Mills
community
I,
am
writing
to
confirm
my
support
for
the
proposed
Don
knows
community
center
project
at
the
corner
of
Don
Mills
Road
and
the
Don
way
agreed
to
by
the
City
of
Toronto
Cadillac
Fairview
and
the
Don
Mills
residency
Inc
until
the
last
municipal
election.
When
the
electrical
boundaries
were
changed,
we
were
privileged
to
have
councillor
Jay
Robinson
working
with
us
to
fight
for
our
reduced
density
and
a
community
center.
T
The
21
million
is
not
the
city's
money.
It
is
an
amount
that
was
accumulated
given
for
community
center
at
Don
Mills
in
the
Don
West
by
Cadillac,
Fairview
and
concession
for
the
increased
density.
The
original
amount
of
17
million
has
nothing
to
do
with
Celeste
ik
a
project,
nor
should
it
have
anything
to
do
with
it.
In
a
meeting
on
June
27th
enzo
menon
wong
gave
a
speech
to
the
neighborhood
organization
annual
general
meeting
about
the
need
to
support
the
regional
recreational
center.
T
T
T
B
I
T
T
T
T
T
I
I
I
T
That's
the
issue:
the
issue
was
made
that
the
agreement
was
kept.
The
money
was
supplied
by
Cadillac
Fairview,
not
the
City
of
Toronto.
The
community
center
was
going
to
be
built
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
that
money
that
which
I
concerned
to
be
the
Don
Mills
money
has
been
turned
over
to
the
silastic,
a
project
which
belongs
because
of
the
fact
that
we
have
increased.
We
agreed
to
increased
density
in
that
agreement.
We
got
that
money
for
our
community
and
I.
Consider
the
community
to
be
where
the
shops
are
done.
I
see.
T
T
B
Merrimack
deputy
mayor
Thompson,
and
are
there
any
other
questions
for
mr.
Steinhauer?
Okay?
Well,
thank
you
mr.
Steinhauer,
for
your
answers
and
for
your
comments.
We
appreciate
that
caroline
schweppe
is
next
shrew
up
here,
yeah
good
morning,
you're
most
welcome
hearing.
You
have
five
minutes
up
to
five
minutes
to
make
your
marks.
P
You
will
hopefully
I
won't
take
five
minutes.
My
name
is
Caroline
Schwab
I'm,
a
residence
resident
of
the
Don
Mills
area,
moved
to
the
neighborhood
about
1213
years
ago
and
have
watched
the
developments
in
the
Don
Mills
community.
With
that
with
a
great
deal
of
interest.
I
think
we
all
agree
that
the
developments
that
were
talking
about
within
that
entire
area
are
really
critical
to
the
the
future
state
of
the
Toronto
of
the
City
of
Toronto
and
I.
Don't
think
this
is
a
question
of
a
discussion
about
either/or.
P
The
reality
is
that
communities
need
community
space,
they
need
places
for
our
young
people
and
our
older
people
to
engage
with
each
other
to
undertake
sports
activities.
So
you
know
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
here
as
to
one
versus
the
other,
and
the
reality
is
in
fact
that
we
know.
We
all
know
that
we
need
two
community
spaces.
P
The
other
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
there
is
a
letter
of
agreement
with
the
Don
Mills
residents
Association,
which
indicates
that
money
that
was
allocated
from
the
construction
of
condominiums
and
other
facilities
in
the
Don
Mills
The
Shops
at
Don
Mills
area
was
to
be
allocated
to
a
community
center
in
that
particular
site.
There
has
been
some
discussion
at
this
group
and
I've
attended
the
meeting
that
was
hot,
that
was
hosted
by
the
Don
Mills
Association.
There
was
some
discussion
about
the
fact
that
the
city
had
undertaken
some
community.
P
Our
community
studies
and
I
would
fundamentally
disagree
with
that.
A
pop
up
in
a
supermarket
is
not
an
engagement
study
and
whether
or
not
538
people
walked
through
the
supermarket
in
an
afternoon
or
in
the
in
the
local
library
in
the
afternoon.
Does
not
an
engagement
study
make
400
over
400
people
showed
up
at
the
recent
meeting
that
mr.
Minh
and
Wong
had
intended
to
express
their
viewpoints
about
the
fact
that
the
city
had
reneged
on
the
steal,
so
I
think
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
smoke
and
mirrors
going
on
here.
P
The
reality
is,
there
is
a
deal
in
place
and
the
deal
allocated.
Seventeen
million
dollars
plus
forward
forward
interest
payments
on
that
seventeen
million
dollars
for
a
community
center
and
the
city
has
reneged
on
the
deal
and
that
deal
was
signed
ten
years
ago.
We're
now
talking
about
a
future
plan
which
fundamentally
makes
a
total
sense
to
anybody
who's
in
this
room.
I,
don't
think
anybody
would
disagree
with
it
with
it
with
the
needs
for
that
particular
site,
but
that's
currently
a
discussion
paper.
P
Are
we
going
to
have
another
ten
years
or
twenty
years
waiting
for
that
and
in
the
meantime,
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
money
from
the
sections
437
funds
that
were
allocated
for
the
community
space
and
promised
for
the
community
safe
space
in
the
area
to
which
it
was
identified?
That's
all
I
have
to
say
today.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and.
B
B
K
You
thank
you
for
having
me
here
and
I.
Just
I'm,
the
resident
of
Don
Mills
and
I
live
in
the
north
end
closer
to
York,
Mills
and
I
wanted
to
give
you
my
thoughts.
First
of
all,
no
one's
here
should
be
surprised
by
or
dismissive
of
the
objections
you
hearing
today.
The
Don
Mills
community
has
been
waiting
for
this
center
for
a
very
long
time.
The
2010
and
OMB
agreement
signed
by
all
parties
assured
us.
The
facility
would
be
built
at
the
shops.
K
The
master
recreation
plan
for
2019
2038
that
council
approved
was
they're
surance,
no
doubt
about
it
and
fully
funded
by
section
37
funds
that
we
thought
were
safe.
The
city
can
build
a
regional
community
center
at
Donelson
Eglinton.
Surely
it's
going
to
be
needed
with
the
development
you're
planning
there,
but
don't
mix
up
our
center
with
your
proposal.
It's
a
separate
issue
whether
I
take
issue
with
your
district,
disregarding
the
OMB
agreement.
K
K
You
are
ignoring
your
own
guidelines
that
you
developed
on
section
37
and
how
it
should
be
used.
Our
central
domino
theory
has
not
been
adequately
consulted.
Our
communicated
with
about
the
new
plan
was
there
an
intent
to
avoid
us.
The
report
diminishes
our
concerns.
It
references
that
there
is
some
opposition.
There
isn't
some
opposition
there's
a
lot
of
opposition
in
the
Don
Mills
community,
and
why
is
the
alternate
model
so
quickly
dismissed
because
it
is
a
marketing
campaign
you've
been
doing?
Why
is
the
alternate
model
dismissed
when
it's
really
us
and
our
money?
K
That
is
not
our
most
affected?
We
stand
to
lose
the
most.
Should
we
not
have
a
say
what
happened
to
a
Parkway,
Forest
50,000
square
feet,
community
center,
using
section
37
funds?
Did
you
go
to
the
very
broad
region
to
get
input
on
that?
Or
did
you
go
to
the
local
neighborhood?
That's
impacted
by
development.
K
K
K
I,
don't
know
if
you've
covered
everything,
that's
happening
on
York
Mills
Road,
but
that
is
also
part
of
our
community
and,
as
I
said,
there
is
not
anything
in
the
West
Leslie
York
Mills
area.
So,
anyway,
you
know
dawn
Mills
with
the
first
planned
community
and
we
had
many
facilities
there.
When
I
grew
up
there,
Don
Mills,
Shopping
Center
defined
the
area.
We're
giving
up
the
arena
arena
give
us
a
facility
I
sense.
The
excitement
of
staff
to
think
about
this
new
development.
B
B
G
G
There
are
several
public
schools,
a
collegiate,
a
Catholic
school
private
schools
all
within
the
Don
Mills
area,
which
total
past
eight,
which
comprise
about
3,000
children.
So
at
3:30
those
3,000
children
have
nowhere
to
go
except
the
public
library
because
we
have
no
facilities
for
children
after
school.
There
are
no
after-school
programs
for
children
in
our
community
and
in
fact,
malla
world
school
was
pulled
down,
so
we
in
fact
lost
a
soccer
field
and
a
baseball
diamond
on
top
of
that.
G
In
the
report
it
says
that
the
annual
household
income
in
Don
Mills
is
one
hundred
and
fifty
one
thousand,
according
to
the
city's
own
statistics
of
Banbury
Don
Mills
in
2016,
the
median
household
income
for
our
area,
seventy
seven
thousand
of
which
twenty
percent
of
the
residents
of
Don
Mills
live
below
the
poverty
line.
These
are
people
who
live
in
the
old
1950s
Apartments
on
Don
Mills
Road
and
on
Lawrence
apartments
with
no
elevators,
which
is
why
their
rent
is
cheaper
and
they
sacrifice
to
live
in
our
community,
because
the
shops
that
Don
Mills
is.
G
Are
you
expensive?
So
there
is
a
false
attitude
that
Don
Mills
is
a
very
affluent
community
that
has
a
lot
of
money.
That
is
not
true.
I
have
children
who
show
up
without
food,
I
have
children
who
can't
afford
to
buy
running
shoes
I've
had
to
give
children
clothing.
That
is
the
reality
of
Don
Mills
and
there
are
no
facilities
for
these
children
I'm
particularly
struck
by
the
Parks
and
Recreation
report,
which
I
find
illustrates:
systemic
discrimination
of
the
marginalized
community
within
Don
Mills.
G
First
of
all,
there
was
a
pop
up
at
the
Metro
grocery
store,
one
of
the
most
expensive
grocery
stores
in
Canada.
Poor
people
don't
shop
at
Metro
they
shop
at
the
no
frills
at
Victoria
Park.
Well,
there
was
a
pop
up
at
mid-afternoon
on
Saturdays
at
the
local
library,
most
working
poor
work
in
retail
and
on
Saturdays
they're
working
they're
not
available
to
go
to
a
pop-up.
Oh
no,
but
there
was
a
large
community
meeting
with
maps
and
explanations
at
the
Science
Centre.
G
Well,
the
Science
Centre
is
at
least
a
30
to
40
50
to
60
minute
walk
depending
on
where
you
live
within
the
community,
which
means
poor
people
would
have
to
take
transit,
and
if
you
live
below
the
poverty
line,
$6
for
return,
TTC
pair
versus
food.
What
are
you
going
to
take
our
community
by
the
way?
Has
a
food
bank?
Yes,
in
Don
Mills,
we
have
a
food
bank
open
twice
a
week
and
is
always
under
demand.
G
I
find
that
even
in
attachment
2,
there
is
a
statement
that
says
participants
from
the
Don
Nelson
Laurance
community
specifically
requested
that
meetings
be
held
closer
in
their
neighborhood.
Yet
in
the
main
report
it
says
there
was
extensive
consultation,
so
even
Parks
and
Rec
is
not
sure
about
what
they
were
doing
so
I
find
that
the
voice
of
the
poor
was
totally
ignored
in
any
consultation,
pop-up
contact
they
are
not
represented
here
they
are
the
invisible
voice
that
is
not
heard.
I
also
find
this
pitting
of
communities
against
each
other.
G
Reprehensible
I
was
a
resident
of
thorn
compart
for
17
years.
In
my
youth,
I
am
NOT
against
thorn.
Cliff
I
am
NOT
against
Flemington.
However,
the
poor
of
thorn
cliff,
the
poor
of
flemington
and
the
poor
of
Don
Mills
all
deserve
equal
access
to
services.
They
all
deserve
having
a
level
playing
field
to
achieve
what
our
city
promotes.
In
its
mission
statement
and
I.
Think
that's
not
present
here.
I
have.
G
I
just
want
to
mention
something
from
the
DMR
eye
that
is,
we
have
filed
a
letter
from
our
solicitor
with
you,
the
last
line
of
which
says
the
DMR
eye
is
fully
prepared
to
take
legal
action
to
enforce
its
rights
under
the
minutes,
including
by
seeking
injunctive
relief.
We
hope
that
such
a
step
will
not
be
necessary
and
that
the
committee
will
reject
the
staff
recommendation.
P
J
G
Are
on
the
don
way
west
in
the
low-rise
apartment
buildings
there
they
are
on
win
Green
court
on
the
dawn
way:
east.
That's
the
northeast
quadrant.
There
is
a
whole
lane
or
road
of
low-rise
apartment
buildings
about
six
or
seven
of
them.
Yeah
they're,
along
Lawrence
from
the
shoppers
which
is
the
dawn
way
west
going
towards
Leslie
on
the
north
side.
G
Those
are
all
lower-income
apartment
buildings
and
they
are
on
Don
Mills
Road
right
across
from
the
shops
not
including
the
seniors
home,
which
is
an
expensive
home,
but
the
other
buildings
are
low
rental
buildings
right
and
then
the
school
also
that's
primarily
from
Flemington
parks
of
the
st.
Denis.
So
that's
Toronto
housing.
So
we
have
a
significant
proportion
of
Toronto
housing
children
attending
both
Don
Mills,
middle
and
Donald's
collegiate.
G
G
Issue
is,
though,
because
it's
it's
not
optional
attendance,
it's
part
of
our
catchment
children
make
the
decision
and
when
they
make
the
decision
to
come
to
the
schools
in
Don
Mills,
that's
where
their
friends
are.
So
when
they
go
back
home,
their
friends
aren't
there.
Their
friends
are
up
in
Don
Mills,
so
they'll
have
some
friends
in
Flemington,
but
some
friends
and
Don
Mills
right.
G
P
G
P
G
B
C
C
I
don't
have
a
lot,
that's
different
to
say
that
hasn't
been
said
already
today,
including
a
few
things
that
people
elaborated
on
that
I've
wondered
about.
For
me,
some
of
the
major
points
I
mean
it
was
clear
to
me.
The
city
report
was
designed
to
have
the
committee
decide
to
not
do
the
previously
agreed-upon
community
center
at
the
Don
Lee
property
and
instead
move
all
of
that
down
to
the
southwest
eco
site,
and,
as
someone
said
it
recently,
you
know
I
mean
the
whole
report
is
basically
hitting
one
neighborhood
in
the
Don
Mills
area.
C
It
needs
to
another,
and
I
found
it
very
difficult
to
accept
that
this
is
essentially
what's
going
on,
and
that
really
you
know
the
city
should
be
interested
in.
You
know
all
of
Don,
Mills
and
all
of
the
city,
not
just
certain
neighborhoods
and
I
feel
that
the
purpose
of
the
report
to
totally
disregard
the
section
37
deal
from
2010
that
has
been
locally
spoken
about
already
several
times.
C
It
just
wasn't
fair
to
the
people
of
central
Don
Mills,
who
have
been
waiting
for
this
community
descending
for
a
very
long
time.
The
point
has
been
very
well
made
that
the
money
for
this
community
center
came
from
the
developer
in
return
for
fairly
high
density
residential
properties
and
that
any
retroactive
decision
by
the
city
not
to
build
this
community
center
in
favor
of
another
area
of
the
city
is
inappropriate.
C
I
have
absolute
I
mean
absolute
agreement
that
the
community
down
communities,
the
neighborhood's
down
near
dongles
and
Eglinton,
especially
with
the
growth
coming,
should
have
adequate
facilities
as
well.
I.
Don't
understand
why
the
the
point
of
view
has
been
too
retro
actively
renege
on
the
agreement
from
2010.
It
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
and
I
don't
accept
any
reason.
That's
been
offered,
including
the
fact
that
this
community
center
actually
hasn't
been
built
yet,
and
obviously
it
had
been
this
feasibility
of
taking
it
back
would
not
have
been
possible.
C
I
I
don't
understand
why
it's
art
from
the
to
pad
arena.
You
know
a
newly
developed
residential
area
and
sell
a
stick
is,
is
to
get
a
under.
The
preferred
alternative
is
to
get
a
community
center.
The
area
of
Don
Mills
south
of
Don
Mills,
with
a
community
center
already
for
a
very
long
time.
That's
now
over
reached
its
capacity
given
the
size
of
the
population,
why?
The
proposal
is
for
them
to
have
a
community
the
additional
facilities
they
need
brought
on
soon,
as
almost
as
soon
as
they
need
it.
C
So,
basically,
it
I
think
the
city
should
continue
to
commit
to
the
2010
deal
and
build
the
community
center
at
the
Don
Wei
property
and
I
absolutely
would
like
to
request
that
the
committee
also
recommend
that
the
that
adequate
recreational
facilities
be
built
at
this
elastica
site
for
the
community
there
now
and
for
the
development
that's
coming.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
So
that
brings
us
to
the
end
unless
I'm
mistaken,
of
the
deputations
we
had
registered
and
it
would
leave
us
time
before
we
have
a
lunch
break
to
begin
with
questions
of
staff
and
maybe
I
could
ask
the
staff
to
come
back
because
just
because
it's
probably
easier
to
have
you
assemble
up
here,
as
you
work
for
the
presentation,
it's
that
you
can
say
there
if
you're
all
you're
all
sitting
right
there.
So
that's
fine,
we're
all
together,
that's
good!
So
who
has
some
questions
of
staff
council
Carolyn.
P
Yes,
so
right
off
the
bat
in
an
early
deputation
in
your
presentation,
you
said
that
what
was
contemplated
for
the
center
that
would
be
at
Lawrence
in
the
dawn
way
was
a
gym
and
multi-purpose
room.
So
one
of
the
deputies
talked
about
there
having
been
a
contemplated
there
and
that
and
that
pools
were
negotiated
out
of
the
condos
in
exchange.
For
there
was
going
to
be
a
pool
in
in
the
community
center
was.
Was
that
the
case.
H
So
the
the
amenity
provisions
that
were
provided
in
the
condo
were
up
to
the
developer
at
the
time
and
and
those
varied
and
planning
can
speak
to
that
that
piece.
But
in
terms
of
the
in
the
section
37
agreement,
there
was
a
a
pool,
a
competition,
sized
pool,
reflected
a
gym
and
a
series
of
multi-purpose
rooms
and
that's
where
in
the
37
agreement-
and
it
is
addressed
in
our
report
around
the
challenges
of
the
37
agreement
and
the
facility
that
was
proposed.
H
So
it's
around
a
forty-eight
thousand
plus
square
foot
facility
on
about
a
forty
six
thousand
square
foot
site.
So
it
it
based
on
today's
standards,
art
and
our
assessment-
was
that
it
is
an
over
build
for
the
site
and
didn't
didn't
meet
some
of
the
requirements.
So
that's
where
the
difference.
In
our
alternate
proposal,
we
took
the
pool
out,
put
it
on
the
preferred
facility.
She
had
had
the
gym
in
the
program
rooms
on
the
da
mill
site,
okay,.
P
A
few
more
questions
here:
first
of
all,
there
are
going
to
be.
If
you
go
with
it
with
the
preferred
option,
there
are
gonna,
be
activities
and
facilities
here
that
that
don't
exist
in
the
the
smaller
Center
in
Flemington
Park.
Will
there
be
priority
status
here
or
is
there
some
low-income
programming
other
than
welcome
letter
or
they'll
just
use
welcome
letter
so.
Q
Q
P
I'm
good
yeah,
I'm
gonna
fit
in
try
and
fit
in
two
more
they're
one
of
the
deputies
talked
about
not
even
this
is
a
discussion
paper,
not
even
believing
that
the
Crosstown
center
would
be
built.
I
I'm
not
a
hundred
percent
familiar
with
the
crosstown
proposal
or
is
they're
phasing
or
hold
provisions
in
there
such
that
that
there's
a
lever
they
have
to
build
that
Center
before
they
can
build
some
of
their
condos,
similar
to
what
we
did
in
Parkway.
For
us.
M
Through
you,
mr.
Todd
mr.
mayor,
yes,
there
are
provisions
that
that
phase
the
celestia
development
there
are
provisions,
there's
there's
provisions
for
the
park,
the
park
block
itself
after
that
is
clear,
as
it
is
cleaned
and
conveyed
to
the
city.
There's
not
an
outside
date,
though
there's
an
estimate
is.
P
P
P
And
lastly,
the
the
biggest
gap
here
we
heard
from
one
of
the
late
deputies
is
is
not
having
enough
after-school
programming,
not
having
enough
seniors
programming.
Has
there
been
a
scan
to
look
at
if
you're
not
gonna,
build
a
center
there?
How
you
might
accommodate
that?
Otherwise,
there's
scan
of
the
need
in
the
Don
Wei
area
that
could
accommodate
it,
such
that
we
know
there's
before
and
after-school
programming
to
the
max
seniors
programming
in
spaces,
where
we
might
do
it
by
contract.
What
what
are?
P
Q
Through
the
three
mr.
mayor,
we
haven't
had
a
specific
scan
in
that
particular
area
and
the
Don
Wei
area,
but
it
certainly
is
an
exercise
that
we
could
endeavor
and
look
at
the
level
service
that's
currently
been
being
provided
and
whether
there
are
facilities
available
such
as
schools
and
others.
What
we
could
deliver
some
additional
program
so.
P
Q
A
Of
rapid-fire
questions
I
think
are
important.
So
with
regard
to
the
the
agreement
and
I
have
the
minutes
of
settlement
here.
So
within
the
minutes
of
Selma,
there's
supposed
to
be
a
competition,
sized
swimming
pool,
fitness
area
running
track,
meeting
rooms,
gymnasium
an
auditorium
all
for
seventeen
million
dollars
in
just
Africa
inflation
on
the
shops
downhill
site.
Is
there
enough
money
there
so.
Q
Through
you,
mr.
chair
and
Lao
staff,
to
comment
as
well,
our
assessment
of
the
17
million
dollars,
which
was
based
on
three
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
A
square
foot,
plus
the
inflationary
increments,
which
would
bring
it
up
to
roughly
21
million
dollars,
would
not
be
able
to
provide
a
forty
eight
thousand
square
for.
A
A
H
A
Did
Tenace
stakeholders
we
also
had
a
meeting
with
the
executive
of
the
DM
RI?
Yes,
yes,
we
did,
we
all
asked
their
opinion
and
what
they
thought.
Yes,
yes,
we
did
also
the
institutional
people
like
the
Ismaili,
senator
Japanese
cultural
center.
We
talked
to
them
as
well.
Yes,
we
did
have
I
missed
any
small
group
where
we
had
stakeholder
meetings.
A
A
We
also
had
two
community
meetings
on
the
same
day,
one
in
the
early
afternoon,
one
in
the
late
afternoon.
We
had
a
public
presentation
and
we
also
had
many
many
of
your
staff
there
taking
notes
asking
people
which
site
they
preferred
and
also
having
this.
What
does
it
call
dot
ma
Christi
where
people
could
put
dots
on
which
site
they
would
prefer
it
is
that
correct.
A
A
A
Q
Through
you,
mr.
mayor
and
a
lot
of
this
is
documented
in
the
facility's
master
plan,
which
was
approved
by
council
a
couple
of
years
ago,
we
are
experienced
with
smaller
communities.
Is
that
they,
given
that
the
growth
and
the
population,
the
density
of
some
communities
such
as
this
one
is
they
can
be
under
sized
and
not
able
to
provide
enough
service
and
amenities
in
the
community
to
actually
serve
the
demand.
Q
A
Q
Q
Facilities,
just
by
virtue
of
it
being
a
small
officer,
have
have
left's
amenities
to
offer
in
the
building
and
therefore
less
programs.
They
also
because
there's
less
amenities,
they
don't
have
the
same
operating
their
houses,
facilities,
which
would
operate
a
pool
and
and
and
other
amenities
that
you
know,
extend
the
length
of
time
that
a
building
may
be
open.
A
Q
K
And
anyone
could
use
the
community
center
we're
all
residents
of
the
city.
That's
correct,
for
example,
the
York
Community
Center,
which
we
just
opened
and
took
years
to
build
people
from
all
over
the
city,
use
that
community
center.
It's
it's,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
big
community
center
and
it
has
all
the
facilities
and
that's
the
reason
was
built
that
it's
not
just
for
the
community
and
in
York
it's
for
the
whole
City
of
Toronto.
That's.
Q
I
Q
Three
of
mr.
Mehra,
the
entire
preferred
facility
cost,
is
approximately
eighty
million
dollars
that
includes
twenty
four
million
dollars,
which
has
already
been
allocated
and
approved
in
past
budgets
for
the
double
pad
Civic
and
to
get
us
to
the
80
million
dollars.
Certainly
there's
a
lot
of
development
ongoing
in
the
area,
and
we
will
be
looking
at
all
of
those
development
funding
sources
right.
I
I
This
would
be
what
would
be
proposed
as
well
for
this
area.
This
would
absolutely
be
something
we
would
investigate
and
likely
arrange
for
now.
It
seems
to
me
that
this
particular
facility
that
I
think
the
the
terms
been
used
sort
of
its
generational.
What
does
that
mean
for
a
community
facility
of
this
type?
What
is
that
the
whole
concept
of
generational
facility?
What
does
that
mean
so.
Q
Through
you,
mr.
mayor,
we
are
taking
a
very
planned
approach
around
how
we
are
approaching
these
large
multi-component
facilities
and
doing
our
due
diligence
and
looking
at
the
generational
population
growth
in
the
area
that
they
would
serve
so
not
just
looking
at
who
is
there
now,
but
who
is
going
to
be
there
10
years
from
now,
20
years
from
now
30
years
from
now
we're
trying
very
hard
not
to
under
build
facilities
so
that
when
the
community
grows,
we
literally
cannot
provide
efficient.
You
know
enough
service
to
for
that
for
the
large
growing
community
now.
I
H
I
M
We
through
you,
mr.
mayor,
we
have
changed
section
37
agreements,
this
section
37,
is
pretty
specific,
outlying,
a
specific
size
of
a
community
center.
We
don't.
Typically,
we
are
not
typically
that
specific.
Nowadays,
the
way
we
do
things
we
have
clauses
in
the
section,
37
agreements
that
state
the
the
if
the
money
is
not
spent
within
a
certain
period
of
time
that
that
money
can
be
reallocated
with
consultation
with
the
local
ward
councillor
and
the
chief
planner.
M
I
I
guess
my
final
question,
given
that
we
have
now
heard
that
there
is
approximately
21
million
dollars
available,
they're,
essentially
two
facilities,
as
it
relates
to
the
alternative
proposal.
What
is
then
the
total
cost
to
build
that
particular
site,
because
one
of
the
things
that
was
said
earlier
was
about
a
comment
was
made
about
stealing
our
money.
I'm
just
wondering.
Is
there
sufficient
funds
to
actually
build
the
alternative
proposal?
That's
actually
here.
Q
Q
On
the
recommendations
we
have
before
council,
our
recommendation
would
not
be
to
build
both
facilities,
as
they
were
envisioned
in
the
original
section
37
agreement,
as
well
as
the
alternate
facility.
We
would
be
looking
at
all
of
the
funds
that
are
available
in
the
area
around
the
new
Community
Center,
and
also
new
funding
that
is
available
through
additional
growth
and
development
tools
in
the
area.
Thank.
B
You,
sir
councillor
deputy
mayor
Thompson,
are
there
I
have
just
a
couple
questions
if
there's
no
one
else,
I'll
ask
my
questions
and
I'll
just
ask
that
we
might
extend
five
minutes
beyond
12:30,
because
councilor
Aames,
Day
I,
think
have
sort
of
mounts
to
a
quick
release.
I
think
it
should
be
a
fairly
expeditious
motion,
I
think
and
did
use
okay
great
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
speeches
after
so
all
those
in
favor
of
extending
just
for
a
few
minutes
about
12:30.
Thank
you.
B
So
here
are
my
questions
for
staff
and
I
should
say,
as
I
said
earlier
on,
in
questioning
one
of
the
deputies
I.
You
know
this.
This
thing
predates
obviously
with
a
2010
agreement.
My
own
presence
here
and
so
I.
Look
at
it
from
the
standpoint
of
just
asking
a
series
of
practical
questions.
The
first
one
I
wanted
to
ask
is:
do
we
have
standards
if
I
can
call
it
that,
with
respect
to
the
proximity
of
both
one
community
center
to
another
and
the
proximity
of
neighborhoods
plural
to
a
community
center?
Do
we
have
standards?
B
And
if
so,
where
does
this
fit
with
the
sort
of
it
I'm
prepared
to
accept
the
fact
that
some
of
the
deputy
inspired
out
that
if
you
live
north
of
Lawrence,
you
would
be
further
than
one
kilometer
away
from
this
proposal
of
done
at
Don,
Mills
and
Eggleton?
But
what
standards
do
we
have
for
it?
For
these
kinds.
Q
Of
things,
mr.
mayor,
many
of
these
standards
were
refreshed
and
and
approved
by
council
in
the
facilities
master
plan.
So
generally,
our
standard
currently
for
a
large
multi-purpose
Community
Center,
is
one
per
35
thousand
residents.
That's
the
catchment
area
that
we
try
to
serve
and
approximately
2.5
to
3
kilometer
radius,
so
in
in
our
view
and
part
of
the
facility's
master
plan
was
looking
at.
Q
You
know
taking
new
new
community
centers
in
the
construction
of
them
with
those
standards
in
mind,
and
that,
in
fact,
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
were
relooking
into
all
of
the
community
recreation
facilities
in
the
don
melzer
yeah.
Given
the
new
growth
that
is
now
happening
along,
you
know
the
other
lieutenant
Donald
proton.
So
through
this
new
facility,
we
believe
that
it
better
matches
the
standards
that
we've
actually
developed
around
the
development
of
these
facilities.
Now.
B
Thank
you
for
that.
The
next
issue
I
wanted
to
just
cover
with
you,
I
asked
a
couple
of
the
decadents
you
know.
Did
they
think
cost-effectiveness
was
a
was
a
legitimate
issue
to
take
into
account
in
making
these
decisions
recognizing
there
are
many
factors,
including
some
raised
by
them
that
should
be
taken
into
account.
Is
there
in
fact
a
cost
I'll
call
it
a
cost-effectiveness
advantage
to
operating
one
larger
facility
as
opposed
to
two
I?
Don't
really
know
the
answer.
The
question
I'm
assuming.
Q
Is
our
experience
has
been
large,
multi-use
facilities
can
share.
A
number
of
staff
functions
can
be
more
efficient
from
a
utilization
perspective
and
have
lower
operating
costs
per
square
foot.
So
so
it
may
because
of
that,
in
addition
to
all
that,
we
were
also
able
to
provide
additional
programming,
so
the
accessibility
of
them
is
far
greater
I.
Think.
B
I
heard
you
mentioned
a
minute
ago
that,
in
addition
to
that
that
there
had
been
some
surveys
undertaken
generally,
not
not
in
this
specific
area,
were
you
going
to
refer
to
these
for
scary?
If
you
want
about
the
community
and
their
their
views
on
these
kind
of
larger,
consolidated
facilities
versus
smaller
ones,
and
is
there
some,
if
you
undertaken
some
surveys
over
time
as
part
of
the
preparation
of
the
the
long-term
plan
or
otherwise,
the.
Q
The
surveys
I
mean
we've
done
all
kinds
of
surveying,
not
maybe
specifically
on
that
point.
But
what
we
do
hear
from
people
and
what
we
know
through
the
participation
patterns
and
when
we
open
new
multi-use
facilities
is
that
they
are
the
busiest
and
most
popular
and
when
we
hear
a
lot
of
the
serving
we've
done
and
the
community
consultation
that
we've
done
through
the
master
master
plan.
Q
B
Stop
back
on
the
30,
a
section,
37
question
and
about
reopening
these
agreements.
I
heard
what
you
said
about
that
today
we
would
wear
those
in
a
way
that
gave
the
flexibility,
especially
given
that
10
years
has
we've
seen
very
clearly
here
or
not
and
can
pass,
and
sometimes
the
long
term.
Nature
of
developments
is
such
that
that
happens.
If
you
look
at
before
of
those
wordings
were
put
in,
and
we
had
the
more
specific
prescriptive
wording
like
we
have
in
this
one:
have
there
been
instances
in
the
past?
B
You
know
that
where
we
would
have
reopened
these
as
it
fit
as
it
relates
to
recreational
facilities
might
and
caught
that
just
because
of
the
passage
of
time
and
the
changes
that
can
happen
in
that
time
is
this?
Is
this
a
sort
of
start
precedent
in
this
regard,
or
is
it
something
that
is
customary
or
kind
of
something
in
between.
M
B
B
If,
if
this
recommendation
is
accepted
by
the
committee
and
ultimately
by
counsel
for
the
site
at
Don,
Mills
and
Lawrence,
I'll
call
it
that
for
for
public
use
for
that
site,
are
you
prepared
to
embark
on
such
a
process
right
away
to
sort
of
try
and
figure
out
what
could
be
done,
that
site
for
community
use?
We.
B
And
let's
not
get
into
the
debate
about
whether
there
was
adequate
or
inadequate
public
consultation.
We've
heard
all
opinions
expressed
this
morning,
but
are
you
prepared
to
commit
that
the
alcohol
that
that
the
the
most
local
part
of
this
community
that
the
group
that
are
Martin,
obviously
not
happy
with
the
outcome,
would
be
closely
consulted,
in
fact,
maybe
that
they
would
be
allowed
to
determine?
You
know
how
much
consultation
they
want,
but
I
want
to
have
eight
meetings
instead
of
two,
but
are
we
prepared
to
give
broad
consultation
and
input
opportunities
if
that.
B
Those
were
my
questions.
Is
there
anybody
else
with
questions
for
now?
Otherwise
we
will
will
conclude
the
question
period
and
we'll
save
speeches
for
after
lunch
and
I
will.
However,
just
I
think
because
it
allows
us
to
deal
with.
This
item
contains
the
the
item
number
ax
7.20,
which
has
to
do
with
these
payments.
We
make
for
railway
right
of
ways
and
so
on,
where
we
get
I'll
suggest
get
we
get
ripped
off,
but
you
had
a
motion.
That's.
A
A
Does
it
by
tonnage
and
the
two
things
that
I'll
point
out
is
that
last
year
we
received
the
same
taxation
revenue
that
we
did
in
2018,
even
though
I
can
point
to
a
variety
of
articles
that
show
railway
freight
tonnage
in
Ontario
was
up,
and
the
other
thing
I'll
point
out.
Mara
Tory
is
the
the
comments
made
by
the
rail
raise
that
this
is
too
cumbersome
to
do
and
there's
issues
around
confidential
information.
Anytime
I
see
it.
Companies
reply
in
that
manner
to
us
usually
means
we're
losing
money.
B
Are
there
any
there's
an
amendment
here,
any
questions
of
staff,
any
comments
to
be
made
otherwise
I'm
prepared
to
ask
for
a
vote
first
on
councillor,
NZ's
amendment,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
and
then
the
item
at
sorry.
Did
you
have
any
ok?
The
item
is
amended.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
Kerry.
Did
you
have
something
else
quicker,
so
you
have
one
more
quick
one.
We
can
unknown
to
me
as
well.
You
had
one
as
well.
Okay,
go
ahead.
B
That
that's
the
the
amendment
you
circulated
earlier
earlier
on,
yes
and
the
tea
Oh
a
lot,
so
we
did
have
a
chance
to
have
that
go
around
and
people
have
hopefully
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
it.
That
was
here.
This
is
new
recommendations
that
are
being
inserted,
so
it's
this
would
become
the
substitute
recommendation
since.
B
So
that's
a
precondition
of
this
its
precondition
right
and
are
there
any
questions
to
do
with
that?
Any
comments
wish
anyone
wishes
to
make.
Well
then,
I'll
call
the
question
all
those
in
favor
of
mr.
Crawford's
amendment
and
that
becomes
the
adoption
of
the
item
as
amended
with
these
new
recommendations.
Thank
you
and
then
counselor,
Deputy
Mayor,
Thompson
Thank.
B
The
Casa
Loma
Corporation
is
the
Casa
Loma
Corporation
annual
general
meeting
and
2018
audited
financial
statements
and
then
you've
ready
to
move
the
record
staff
recommendations.
So
deputy
mayor
Thompson
moves
the
staff
recommendations
in
item
7.7.
If
there
are
no
other
questions
or
comments,
I'll
call
the
question:
all
those
in
favor
opposed
to
Carrie
will
resume
at
1:30
with
the
speeches
on
this
matter.
Thank
you
very
much.