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Infrastructure and Environment Committee, meeting 17, November 5, 2020
Agenda and background materials:
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My
name
is
james
pasternak,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
infrastructure
environment
committee.
The
clerk
has
confirmed
that
we
do
have
quorum.
So
I'd
like
to
now
call
meeting
17
to
order
welcome
everybody.
Today's
meeting
is
being
held
by
video
conference
city
staff
are
also
connecting
to
the
meeting
by
video
conference.
A
city
hall
remains
closed.
The
public
will
continue
to
participate
electronically
and
can
watch
the
meeting
streaming
live
on
youtube
at
youtube.com,
backslash
toronto
city
council
live.
A
I
ask
everyone
for
their
patience
with
delays
and
any
technical
issues.
Members.
This
is
a
paperless
meeting.
City
clerk
has
provided
all
agenda
materials
versus
via
cmp
clerks
meeting
portal.
Clerk's
I.t
staff
are
available
remotely
to
help
members
with
their
devices,
I'd
like
to
remind
staff
to
keep
their
mics
muted
and
their
videos
turned
off
unless
they
need
to
answer
questions
or
speak
to
the
committee.
This
will
make
it
easier
for
me
as
chair
to
those
watching
on
youtube
and
observe
members
as
they
participate
in
the
debate
and
vote
on
items
members.
A
Please
keep
your
mic
muted
unless
you
wish
to
question
staff
or
speak
to
an
item
and
ensure
that
your
video
is
turned
on
as
part
of
each
agenda
item,
I
will
ask
members
to
raise
their
hand
or
mute
their
mic
if
they
wish
to
question
staff
or
speak.
I
will
then
create
a
speaker's
list
and
we'll
call
on
members
when
it
is
their
turn
to
speak.
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A
And,
of
course,
you'll
be
given
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
or
speak.
This
will
assist
the
clerk's
staff
to
record
attendance
for
the
meeting,
although
we
are
in
different
locations
and
meeting
remotely
today,
the
committee
would
like
to
acknowledge
the
land
that
we
are
meeting
on
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
mississauga
of
the
credit,
the
ashwanabe,
the
chippewa
hau
nanoshi
windapp
peoples
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
nations.
First
nations
inuit
and
metis
people.
We
also
acknowledge
that
toronto
is
covered
by
treaty
13
with
the
mississauga
of
the
credit.
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So
there's
a
section
both
staff
recommendations,
staff
staff
recommendations
are
moved
all
those
in
favor
opposed.
That
is
carried
item
number
two
amendment
to
purchase
order
with
grass
scan
construction,
limited
tor,
bridge
construction,
limited
for
rehabilitation
of
the
bathurst
street
bridge
south
of
front
street
west.
There's
a
staff
report
with
a
recommendation.
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E
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A
I
don't
see
everybody,
but
I
assume
it's:
okay,
all
those
in
favor,
adding
it
to
the
agenda;
okay,
we're
good!
So
that
is
added
to
the
agenda
and
it
will
be
in
cmp
in
the
next
few
minutes:
okay,
that's
great,
so
17-3,
reducing
the
state
of
good
repair
backlog
and
enhancing
cycling.
Lane
maintenance
held
by
deputy
member
wong
questions
for
staff.
H
So
through
the
speaker,
so
we
have
around
425
kilometers
of
local
and
collector
roads
within
the
city
of
those
we
we
tend
to
resurface
around
about
100
kilometers
a
year
and
we
condition
around
four
to
five
kilometers
a
year
to
keep
up
with
our
with
the
cycle
of
maintenance.
We
should
be
resurfacing
about
four
percent
of
our
network
a
year
and
reconditioning
about
one
percent,
so
that
would
equate
to
resurfacing
around
161
kilometers
a
year
and
we
are
reconstructing
around
40
kilometers
a
year.
H
H
So
arterial
roads
there's
1146
kilometers,
we
tend
to
resurface
around
35
to
40
kilometers
a
year
and
reconstruct
around
three
to
five
kilometers
a
year
to
keep
up
with
the
cycle
of
maintenance.
We
should
be
resurfacing
around
five
percent
of
those
a
year
which
equates
to
just
over
58
kilometers,
so
we're
doing
just
under
half
of
what
we
should
be
doing
in
terms
of
resurfacing
and
then
in
terms
of
reconstruction.
B
H
H
I
think
we
had
a
budget
of
around
55
million
dollars
and
we
advanced
some
money
from
future
years
and
we
actually
spent
just
over
90
million
dollars
last
year
and
we're
doing
the
same
this
year.
So
so
we
are
making
some
inroads,
but
even
that
90
million
dollars
isn't
enough.
No,
that's
correct
deputy
man.
H
So
so
through
the
speaker,
so
we
will
be
bringing,
as
the
report
says,
we'll
be
bringing
an
asset
management
plan
forward
next
year.
That
needs
to
look
at
a
number
of
things,
including
our
level
of
service.
So
what
is
the
appropriate
standard
that
we
should
have
for
our
roads
out
there
at
the
moment,
our
backlog
number?
The
number
that
appears
in
your
budget
is
based
on
a
quite
a
high
pqi
of
of
a
behavioral
quality
index
of
of
70..
H
Most
of
our
network
is,
is
is
in
the
high
50s
at
the
moment.
So
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
conversation,
and
we
need
to
have
that
through
the
asset
management
plan,
about
what
is
the
appropriate
level
of
that
we
should
be
investing
in
our
roads.
What's
the
condition
and
then
what
level
of
investment
do
we
need
to
to
maintain
that
condition?
I
think
at
the
moment,
it's
clear
to
see
that
aiming
for
a
70
we're
not
getting
anywhere
near
a
17
we're
never
going
to
catch
up.
H
B
H
B
Well,
no,
you
said
going
from
a
70
to
a
50.
I
think
that's
what
you
said
using
some
sort
of
standard,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
you
meant
by
that
my
question
was:
does
that
mean
lowering
the
quality
of
the
standard
of
road
so
that
you
can
actually
have
more
and
and
is
that
a
way
to
actually
either
extend
the
life
of
the
road
or
you
know,
lower
the
cost
of
paving
the
road.
H
So
through
the
speaker,
I
think
what
I'm
saying
is
that
the
the
quality
we
currently
aim
for
is
is
an
aspirational
quality
which
is
going
to
be
very
difficult
for
us
to
ever
ever
deal
with
that
backlog
to
get
to
that
level.
So
I
think
we
need
to
say
based
on
the
condition
that
our
network
currently
is
what's
the
condition
which,
which
we
think
is
a
good
and
acceptable
condition
for
our
road
users.
H
Personally,
I
would
think
it's
somewhere
between
where
we
are
now
and
that
70.,
so
I
said
we're
we're
in
the
high
50s
we're
around
57
58.
At
the
moment,
our
aspiration
at
the
moment
is
70..
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
whether
somewhere
in
the
in
the
60s
is,
is
appropriate
and
bringing
that
to
council
and
have
have
a
full
some
discussion
on
that.
Okay,.
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J
Good
morning,
councillor
up
through
the
chair,
yes,
so
last
year
we
began
a
program
where
we're
look
looking
at
prioritizing
bicycle
links
for
a
schedule.
So
we
began
last
year
harder
consulting
to
assess
the
condition
of
bicycle
lanes,
taken
inventory
and
put
together,
in
fact,
a
schedule
for
all
year
round:
maintenance
of
bicycles.
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
putting
together
a
a
plan
that
will
look
at
more
regular,
routine
maintenance
and
bicycling.
J
I
And
that
will
indicate
the
current
conditions
so
just
for
an
example,
when
there's
been
a
cut
by
toronto,
water
in
order
to
fix
a
maine
there's
the
asphalt
repair,
which
sometimes
has
very
deep
roofs,
which
really
makes
no
difference
for
an
automobile.
But
it
is
a
significant
difference
for
a
cyclist
will
that
be
looked
at
locked
out
because
of.
J
H
Sorry
through
the
chair,
maybe
counselor-
maybe
if
I
could
just
interject-
because
I
think
this
comes
back
to
the
what
I
was
saying
a
little
earlier
around
level
of
service.
At
the
moment,
when
we
look
at
when
we
look
at
the
the
quality
of
our
pavement,
we
we
we
look
at
it
in
a
blanket
approach
across
across
the
whole
city,
four
different
types
of
roads,
irrespective
of
of
who,
the
who
the
users
are
on
on
that
roadway,
and
it
may
be
through
the
asset
management
plan.
H
And
again
this
is
a
discussion
we
need
to
have
that.
We
might
want
a
different
level
of
service
on
those
roads
where
there
are
cycling
routes,
for
example,
because
obviously,
cyclists
feel
a
different
level
of
service.
They
feel
the
ruts,
for
example,
and
cracks
in
roadways
far
more
far
more
than
motor
vehicles
do
so.
Therefore,
we
we
we
need
to
through
the
asset
management
plan
and
have
that
discussion
about.
What's
the
appropriate
level
of
service
for
roadways
where,
where
where
cyclists
are.
I
Because,
generally
your
wheels
don't
fall
off
or
you
don't
leave
loose
parts
of
your
car
on
a
road
unless
it's
deep
hole,
but
just
last
week
something
bounced
off
my
bike
when
I
had
a
very
big
hard
hole
on
dundas,
but
the
other
thing
that
I'm
interested
in
is
for
construction
sites,
particularly
condo
construction
sites,
or
even
when
toronto,
water
utility.
I
guess
it's
called
utility
cuts
and
when
those
repairs
are
being
done,
there
tends
to
be
a
lot
of
mess
left
in
the
cycle
lane
because
it's
closest
to
the
curb.
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F
I
I
I've
raised
that
in
order
to
have
them
documented
and
the
impact
of
those
being
different
than
the
impact
of
a
utility
repair
on
a
vehicle,
the
impact
of
a
poor
utility
repair
on
a
cyclist
is
is
very
different.
So
that's
really
what
I'm
hoping
for
today
and
I
know
counselor
lane's,
going
to
ask
some
questions
and
others
might.
But
now
I
have
to
go
to
another
board
meeting.
I
C
That's
what
that's
what
the
air
and
others
say
about
me,
I
I'm
sure,
on
a
regular
basis.
The
first
questions
are
actually
in
line
with
counselor
men
and
women's
questions
about
about
what's
funded
like
overall,
what's
funded
of
the
state
of
good
repair
budget
for
local
collector
and
artillery
roads,
you
got
a
10-year
budget,
what's
funded
what
percentage.
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K
Hi
good
morning,
councillor
leighton
largely
for
the
reconstruction
program,
where
we
have
the
most
opportunity
to
implement
complete
streets
design,
that's
mostly
focused
on
the
arterial
road
or
the
major
collector
roads,
for
where
there's
an
interest
in
in
having
cycling
facilities.
In
terms
of
being
a
good
connection,
there's
some
exceptions
to
that.
K
Like
when
shaw
street
was
reconstructed,
we
were
able
to
improve
the
conditions
for
cyclists
as
part
of
that
that
project
we
do
also
aim
to
improve
vision,
zero
aspects
as
part
of
the
reconstruction
program
on
local
roads
like
changing,
curb
radii.
Some
of
that
is
starting
to
be
done
as
a
matter
of
course,
but
most
of
it
requires
a
greater
impact
on
design.
So
I
don't
have
a
percentage,
but
we're
we're
not
doing
great
on
that,
but
we're
going
we're
working
towards
better.
K
K
We
do
look
at
opportunities
in
resurfacing,
but
that
involves
mostly
pavement
marking
changes
and
redistribution
distribution
of
the
existing
road
space.
So
we
certainly
have
examples
of
that
in
our
program
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Scarlet
road
is
an
example
where
the
road
was
resurfaced,
and
that
was
the
time
when
the
number
of
lanes
was
reconfigured
to
introduce
bike
lanes,
but
we
have
more
opportunity
with
full
reconstruction,
because
that's
when
we
can
move
curbs.
C
K
They're
about
125
dollars
to
replace
each
vince-
I
don't
know
if
you
have
stats
on
how
many
replace
annually
I
don't
have
that
at
hand.
We
do
inspections
of
them
at
least
annually,
and
we
find
that,
through
those
inspections,
the
bollards
up
to
half
of
them
can
be
damaged,
sometimes
only
a
quarter
depending
on
the
corridor.
D
J
D
J
So
we
do
not
have
that
number
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
potholes
on
roads
right
now
across
the
city
of
toronto.
That
number,
do
you
have
a
guesstimate
yeah?
We
have
no.
Unfortunately,
we
do
not
have
a
guest
house,
so
I
could
not
tell
you
how
many
potholes
there
are
right
now
on
the
roads
of
the
city
of.
D
Toronto,
okay,
because
my
next
question
was
going
to
be
that
you
know
I
had
sort
of
you
know
a
look
at
it
in
my
own
ward
and
we
went
around
and
took
pictures
and
catalogued
them
and
sent
them
forward
and
the
rest
of
them
and
of
those
that
we
we
sent
in
roughly
about
a
little
over
a
year
ago.
Not
a
single
one
has
been
filled
in.
J
So
counselor,
if
you
have
any
specific
locations,
then
I'd
be
happy
to
look
at
them
if
they
send
it
over
to
my
staff
and
we'll
investigate
them.
But,
as
I
said,
twenty
percent
are
through
three
one
one.
Eighty
percent
are
done
proactively
through
our
inspectors,
so
I
have
inspectors
every
day
that
are
patrolling
the
streets
and
they
also
identify
potholes
on
the
routes,
but
by
all
means,
if
you
have
any
specific
addresses
I'll,
be
happy
to
look.
L
F
Terrible
connectivity
issues,
but
we
also
fill
those
potholes,
typically
within
48
hours
of
getting
that
request.
So
I
I
agree
that
anything
that's
not
been
done
in
that
amount
of
time.
We
definitely
want
to
hear
about
this
year.
We've
filled
just
under
200
000
potholes,
which
were
about
on
pace,
given
all
the
impacts
that
we've
had
with
our
operations
and
maintenance
crews
on
other
work,
we've
had
to
redirect
them
to
the
cafe,
to
programs
etc.
So
we're
about
on
pace
with
2017
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
fill
this
year.
D
F
F
We
are
in
a
partnership
right
now
with
solid
waste
to
use
some
video
analytics
that
they
are
looking
at
putting
forward
through
their
garbage
trucks
to
be
able
to
track
the
condition
of
roads
so
that
we
can
proactively
identify
those
locations
and
also
proactively
understand
when
they've
been
filled
over
time,
and
so
we
are
we're
doing
that.
As
you
know,
we
also
do
pothole
blitzes
on
a
relatively
regular
basis.
D
F
Okay,
as
a
winter
city,
council
prusa,
I
would
I
would
say
that
we
will
always
be
dealing
with
bottles.
We
have
a
very
aggressive
free
spa
cycle
that
impacts
our
roads
as
ashley
mentioned
previously.
The
cycle
with
which
we
can
do
repaving
and
resurfacing
is
impacted
because
we
don't
have
the
resources
and
are
still
improving
our
delivery
mechanisms
to
make
sure
we
can
spend
all
the
capital
dollars
that
we
have
appropriately.
So
we
are,
we
are
at
a
deficit
there.
F
We
need
to
do
a
better
job,
I
think,
of
being
able
to
track
and
identify
those
locations,
which
is
why
we're
looking
for
some
video
analytics
to
help
us
with
that,
so
that
we
can
be
more
proactive,
but
the
other
piece.
That's
really
important,
is
our
critical
interim
repair
program,
which
does,
I
think,
a
much
more
comprehensive
job
of
trying
to
fix
those.
The
issues
that
you
described
with
the
roadway
a
little
bit
more
permanently
than
we
can
do
with
topple
patching.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
counselor
peruse
any
other
questions
for
staff.
You
know
I.
I
have
a
couple
just
looking
at
page
eight
of
of
the
report.
It
states
that
a
current
funding
level
is
only
a
third
of
major
and
local
roads
can
be
addressed
as
far
as
I
guess,
resurfacing
or
rehabilitation
is
concerned.
Does
that
mean
that
of
a
hundred
hundred
streets
that
need
rehabilitation?
A
H
A
J
F
Well,
through
the
chair
to
you,
mr
chair,
I
mean
we
definitely
have
work
to
do
on
the
pothole
front.
I
also
just
wanted
to
underscore
that,
as
part
of
our
reorganization,
that
we
did
starting
in
2018,
we
added
a
claims
and
investigation
team
with
a
manager
to
our
operations
and
maintenance
units
working
for
events
to
be
able
to
better
track
and
manage
claims
that
come
in
including
those
related
problems.
So
we
have
a
better
mechanism
in
the
division
to
manage
it
and
track
our
results.
At
the
time
now,.
A
J
So
to
the
ch,
we
deployed
crews
based
on
various
areas
across
the
city,
so
we
have
two
specific
areas
when
it
comes
to
road
operations,
area,
one
toronto,
east
york
and
scarborough
and
area
two,
which
is
north
york,
etobicoke
and
new
york
and
within
those
areas
we
do
have
dedicated
crews
that,
for
the
most
part
on
a
daily
basis,
do
go
out
and
do
the
pothole
repairs
on
an
average.
You
could
have
as
many
as
about
four
or
five
crews
per
area
working
on
potholes
and
then
on
blitzes.
J
A
Based
based
on
your
numbers,
you're
doing
about
8
000
potholes
per
per
ward.
Does
this
this
number
of
crews?
Is
this
under
what
really
what
we
should
be
doing
to
to
stay
on
top
of
the
pothole
situation?
In
other
words,
is
the
8
000
pretty
well
filling
them
all,
or
how
many
do
we
leave
on
unfilled
because
we
don't
have
the
cruise.
J
We
do
know
that
there
are
potholes
that
we
are
not
getting
to.
I
don't
know
what
that
exact
number
is,
but
yes,
there
are
potholes
out
there
that
we
don't
need
to
repair.
We
certainly
are
being
more
proactive
in
trying
to
get
to
those
potholes,
and
so
we
have
patrollers
that
inspect
the
roads
on
a
daily
basis.
J
We're
looking
at
more
technologies
to
detect
anomalies
and
one
of
the
items
we're
looking
at
doing
is
we're
purchasing
new
equipment.
These
are
grinders
that
will
actually
do
more
of
a
surface
area
about
a
pothole
so
that
I
have
a
more
permanent
repair
to
it.
So
we're
looking
at
buying
new
equipment
and
that
new
equipment,
hopefully
will
will
ensure
a
better
restoration
of
the
roads
when
we
carry
the
bottles.
A
B
E
B
There
we
go,
and
the
city
council
identify
the
state
of
good
repair
backlog
as
a
priority
and
request
the
general
manager
transportation
services
to
develop
a
plan
to
reduce
the
backlog,
especially
to
include
annual
targets
and
a
reporting
schedule.
You
know,
mr
chair,
this
is
a
big
problem,
I'm
glad
we
have
this
report
in
front
of
us
as
I
sort
of
described
it
the
best
way.
B
B
B
B
Now
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
say
that
you
know
our
city's
getting
dirtier
and
it's
not.
You
know
that
we're
slowly
in
decline.
I
submit
to
you
that
that
the
condition
of
our
roads
and
sidewalks
are
a
fundamental
aspect
of
the
way
people
perceive
our
city
and,
most
particularly
our
neighborhoods.
B
B
B
B
The
potholes
themselves
are
only
a
stop
gap,
a
temporary
thing,
and
we
need
to
fix
our
critical
infrastructure.
You
know
they
say
that
not
fixing
our
roads
and
critical
infrastructure
is
like
running
up
debt
because
we
fundamentally
have
to
fix
it.
The
debt
here
is
is
huge
and
we've
got
to
start
addressing
it
thanks.
Mr.
C
D
I
just
wanted
to
change
a
couple
of
words
on
there
at
the
very
end
where
and
the
complete
road
audit
conditions
of
of
roads
just
take
out
the
major
arterial,
because
I
just
don't
want,
I
just
don't
want
them
to
just
come
in
and
say
jane
street
or
finch
avenue.
I
I
want
to
take
a
look
at
all
the
roads
right.
D
Okay,
so
if
you
could
delete
those
two
words,
I
I
I'd
appreciate
it,
and
it's
just
simply
a
report
request.
Mr
chair,
mr
chair,
I
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
what's
been
said
already
by
councilman
and
wong.
I
just
want
to
let
him
know
that
I
agree
with
him
yeah.
You
know
on
on
99.9
of
the
comments
that
he
that
he
made
related
to
this.
D
I
would
like
to
get
to
a
point,
mr
chair
understanding
that,
to
some
degree
we're
always
going
to
be
behind
the
eight
ball
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
being
able
to,
you
know,
redo
all
of
the
roads
that
we
need
to
redo
in
the
city,
just
given
the
staggering
amount
of
money
that
would
be
required
for
that
and
that's
listed
here
in
the
report
in
terms
of
the
billions
of
dollars
and
and
if
we
can
find
the
resources
to
do
that,
and
if
we
can
change
the
game
plan.
That
would
be
great.
D
How
you
know
they're
getting
to
to
to
this,
to
the
decay
into
the
potholes
and
given
our
winters
and
given
the
the
severity
of
our
winters
and
giving
the
cooling
and
thawing
and
water
getting
under
our
roads,
where
there's
cracks
and
popping
them
and
and
breaking
them
down
understanding?
All
of
that,
the
fact
is
that
our
roads
are
full
of
holes
all
over
the
place.
D
So
we
just
need
to
find
a
way
I
believe,
to
get
to
the
holes
to
get
to
the
cracks
as
they
happen
in
a
faster,
more
complete
way
and
we're
we're.
Not
it's
that's
not
being
done.
I
mean
I
just
need
to
drive
on
my
street
out
here
just
on
my
street
from
one
end
to
the
other:
there's
probably
20,
potholes,
there's
20
breakages
in
that
street.
D
Many
of
them
have
been
there.
You
know
for
a
long
time,
and
and
that's
the
case
with
just
about
every
other
road
that
you
will
drive
on
in
terms
of
how
they're
they're
cracking
and
how
they're
breaking
up
and
and
we
get
and
a
tremendous
amount
of
complaints
each
and
every
one
of
us
as
a
result
of
that.
D
A
A
D
A
D
A
D
A
A
C
C
C
If,
if
we
can
put
off
work,
if
we
can
delay
work
on
certain
roads,
because
it's
not
as
bad
as
we
had
anticipated,
that's
another
thing
altogether,
but
if
roads
are
becoming
impossible,
be
bringing
to
us
lawsuits
or
or
risk
of
personal
harm
to
to
drivers,
to
cyclists
and
to
pedestrians,
then
we
need
to
be
on
top
of
that
and
and
as
much
as
it
pains
me
to
say,
deputy
mayor
huang
is
right.
This
is
one
of
those
basic
services
that
municipalities
run.
C
C
I
also
would
like
a
more
rapid
reconstruction
of
our
roads,
because
it
also
means
more
bike
lanes,
because
we
have
tasked
staff
with
evaluating
all
roads
that
are
being
resurfaced
and
repaired
for
potential
uses
as
safe,
cycling
infrastructure,
and
I
think,
for
that
reason
we
should
put
a
priority
on
streets
that
potentially
qualify
for
that
or
we've
been
oh
or
have
been
identified
as
roads
as
possible,
cycling,
cycling
routes,
and
we
should
try
to
do
them
as
fast
as
we
can.
Now.
C
There's
two
procurements:
after
we've
done
a
study
and
approved
it
and
there
they
loop
all
the
or
lump
all
the
procurements
together
for
the
design
work,
and
then
they
lump
all
the
procurements
together
for
the
for
the
construction,
just
those
procurement
periods
and
there's
time
in
between
as
things
get
lumped
together
just
that
time
in
between
represents
many
months,
if
not
years,
and
I've
experienced
it
on
a
couple
sites.
So
I
think
this
might
do
two
things.
C
One
is
things
are
a
little
bit
cheaper
when
we
do
it
ourselves
because
we're
not
paying
for
the
profit
of
some
company
or
going
through
the
procurement
process.
At
least
that's
my
estimation
and
all
I've
asked
for
is
a
staff
report.
Things
are
I.
I
start
with
the
premise
that
things
are
a
little
bit
cheaper
when
we
do
it
ourselves
and
so,
given
we
have
this
enormous
backlog,
we
know
we're
going
to
have
it
for
decades.
C
Let's
go
ahead
and
see
what
it
would
what
it
would
be
like
if
we
in
fact
started
doing
or
this
work
ourselves,
it
makes
us
more
nimble,
we
can
activate
faster
and
we
don't
have
to
go
through
the
lengthy
process
of
procurement
and
on
several
stages
along
the
way.
So
I
would
just
like
to
see
a
report
back
in
to
that
effect,
and
I
hope
it
saves
us
money
and
saves
us
time
and
achieves
exactly
what
the
deputy
mayor
would
like
to
achieve
on
on
this
particular
file.
Thank
you.
B
C
Okay,
if
you
want
road,
faster
and
less
painlessly,
you
want
to
you
want
to
resurface
these
roads.
I'd
suggest
you
support,
or
you
believe
that
it
is
more
expensive
to
re
pay
roads
by
the
public
service
rather
than
private
private
companies.
Then
you
should
vote
in
favor
of
this,
because
I
do
specifically
identify
opportunities
and
challenge
it,
I'm
not
starting
at
the
premise
that
it
will
be
all
right.
Thank
you.
I
actually
think
that's
true.
So.
A
A
A
A
A
J
A
M
Good
morning
mr
chair
committee,
members
and
city
staff,
my
name
is
jerry
brown
and
I'm
a
resident
of
ward
14
and
a
regular
user
of
the
dundas
bike
lanes.
I'm
here
to
speak
to
the
recommendation
to
convert
some
segments
of
the
existing
dundas
street
bike
lanes
to
cycle
tracks
and
to
add
protection
at
signalized
intersections
on
an
immediate
basis,
as
well
as
studying
further
improvements
to
take
place
to
these
lanes
in
2022.
M
Let's
go
back
to
2015
when
christy
hodgson
was
walking
her
dogs
along
dundas
street
east
between
carla
and
logan
avenue
a
driver
swerved
to
avoid
a
stopping
vehicle
crossed
the
painted
bike.
Lane
mounted
the
sidewalk
struck
christie
at
an
estimated
50
kilometers
an
hour
and
killed
her
on
a
memorial
bench
in
the
cherry
beach
dog
park.
M
M
We
now
move
to
may
2018.,
doug
crosby,
a
journalist
and
producer,
was
riding
his
bike
to
work
a
choice.
His
wife
christine
called
doing
the
right
thing
as
he
was
riding
a
truck
turned
from
dundas
street
onto
jones
avenue
the
truck
struck
and
killed
duck
at
54
years
old
he's
left
his
wife
christine
and
his
two
children.
M
M
M
What's
left
now
is
a
ghost
bike
at
jones
and
dundas
that
we
remember
him
by
and
as
noted
in
his
obituary,
his
loss
will
leave
a
great
void
in
the
many
communities.
He
was
a
part
of
I'd
like
to
finish
with
an
incident
from
two
years
ago,
when
julia
coss
was
riding
in
the
bike
lane
between
carla
and
logan.
M
She
survived
but
suffered
catastrophic
injuries.
The
young
woman,
who
was
once
energetic
and
athletic
now
lacks
full
use
of
her
limbs,
is
cognitively
impaired
and
requires
round-the-clock
care.
A
friend
later
described
julia.
She
was
just
bursting
with
enthusiasm.
She
loved
dancing,
she
was
very
outgoing:
julia
played
volleyball
soccer
and
basketball
in
high
school.
She
kept
off
the
habit
in
toronto
where
she
attended
ryerson
university's,
early
childhood
studies
program
and
spent
four
or
five
nights
a
week
playing
in
recreational
sports
league.
She
graduated
in
2017
and
her
family
says
she
was
considering
becoming
a
counselor.
M
M
M
A
C
C
So
I'm
putting
forward
this
motion,
partly
because
of
the
nature
of
the
actual
recommendations
in
the
report
isn't
related
solely
to
dundas.
There
is
a
list
of
of
upgrades
to
separated
by
claims
that
are
taking
place
in
recommendation,
one
including
lansdowne,
runnymede
strong,
and
then
there
are
some
more
being
discussed
around
dumbass
west,
not
the
east,
which
is
the
the
title
of
the
of
the
motion.
So
there
are
of
the
so.
There
are
a
lot
of
other
lanes
that
are
being
addressed
here.
C
Well
now,
toronto
water
will
be
delaying
that
work
by
a
significant
amount
of
time,
and
we
are
concerned
that
it
will
delay
significantly
the
implementation
of
physical
barriers
along
harvard
street,
which
is
a
well
well
used
bike
route
in
the
in
the
downtown
west.
They
we
have
requested
over
the
years
for
some
kind
of
physical
separation
at
some
particular
spots
that
are
dangerous.
That's
what
I
hope
this
motion
captures
we're
not
looking
for
a
full
redesign
of
the
of
the
lanes
at
this
point.
C
Well,
we
would
like
to
see
that,
but
I
think
the
community's
prepared
to
wait
until
the
reconstruction
or
or
the
res
the
resurfacing
and
the
water
main
work
is
done
before
we
spend
a
significant
amount
of
time
in
consultation
and
in
the
in
the
actual
building
of
the
the
final
cycle
track,
but
it
would
be.
I
I
think,
to
the
last
point
of
the
deputy.
C
C
A
A
Okay,
item
number
five
basement
flooding
protection
program.
I
held
the
item.
I
just
have.
A
couple
of
questions
for
staff,
looks
like
a
pretty
well
good
news
report:
the
implications
for
various
neighborhoods
that
experience
basement
flooding
when
we
go
up
to
68
000
per
household
from
32
000
per
household.
You
want.
B
L
Yes,
mr
chair,
it's
lady
geronimo,
here
speaking,
the
implications
are
more
for
the
long
term
of
the
program,
not
not
the
near
term.
We
do
have
our
updated
basement,
flooding
briefing
note
coming
to
all
countries
we'll
get
it
tomorrow
afternoon
and
that
will
lay
out
the
near
term
program.
This
report
front
view
will
benefit
longer
term
planning
of
this
program
over
the
course
of
the
next
10
years.
L
A
A
Going
forward
for
studies
that
are
not
yet
complete,
the
cost
per
household
will
go
up
to
68
000..
So,
in
other
words,
if
you
have
a
small
cul-de-sac,
that's
flooding
with
only
five
houses.
It
may
actually
be
eligible
for
infrastructure
upgrades,
whereas
under
the
current
program
of
32
it
would
not
is
that.
Is
that
what
we're
looking
at
here.
L
So
so
our
recommended
include
both
studies
that
are
about
to
be
completed
as
well
as
the
ones
that
we've
made
in
the
past
and
we've
developed
a
deferred
list
of
projects.
So,
yes,
a
new
completed
environmental
studies,
we
would
use
this
new
figure
as
well.
We
would
go
back
to
the
old
deferred
list
and
we
tried
to
take
a
look
at
updating
the
construction
costs
for
those
projects.
L
L
That
would
match
the
implementation
of
those
new
projects,
as
well
as
the
reassessment
of
the
old
project
and
starting
to
put
them
into
our
five-year
planning
queue
of
projects.
So
in
the
near
term,
projects
for
this
year
next
year
and
even
potentially
the
third
year
would
continue.
We
have
plenty
of
work
on
our
plate
and
funding
for
that.
The
other
thing
that
this
does-
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note.
L
Looking
at
the
long
term
of
the
program
we
have
about
2.2
billion
dollars
allocated
towards
basement
flooding
projects,
and
if
we
kept
the
lower
amount,
the
32
000
amount.
We
would
run
out
of
projects
that
would
become
eligible
because
of
inflationary
factors
over
the
years
and
we
would
have
funding,
but
not
enough
projects
to
proceed
with.
This
will
allow
us
actually
to
put
projects
in
and
use
up
the
funding
that
is
available
in
our
program.
L
A
Okay,
just
very
quickly
my
last
question
it.
It
involves
a
local
issue
in
in
york
center
on
page
eight,
where
we
were
having
some
issues
from
a
study
that
was
done
in
2012
before
a
lot
of
the
extreme
weather
events
triggered
some
extensive
flooding.
Now
in
the
sa
last
sentence,
it
says
once
studies
for
all
the
remaining
study
areas
have
been
completed.
A
L
Sure
that's
chair,
there's
25,
study
errors
to
be
completed
time
frame
to
complete
them
is,
most
of
them
will
be
done.
The
study
phase.
This
is
just
the
environmental
study
phase.
That's
all
we're
talking
about
not
construction
phase
would
be
completed
by
the
end
of
2023,
and
so
most
of
most
of
that
work
will
be
completed.
We
would
have
studied
the
entire
city
by
that
time.
Some
might
lapse
into
2024,
but
the
bulk
of
it
will
be
done.
Then.
L
This
is
a
very
good
and
interesting
point.
What
happens
when
growth
occurs
within
a
part
of
the
city
where
we
had
studied
it
many
years
ago
it
does
warrant
us
taking
another.
Look
at
some
some
study
areas
just
to
reconfirm,
in
fact
some
of
those
deferred
projects.
So
that's
why
we
have
said
that
and
I
think
it
does
make
sense
after
we
complete
the
initial
roll
out
of
a
citywide
look.
We
go
back
in
selected
areas
where
we've
seen
growth
and
reassess
our
priorities.
A
Major
infrastructure
improvements
in
their
neighborhood-
and
I
think
I
mentioned
in
the
past
that
areas
such
as
bathurst,
manor
and
downsview
were
subject
to
enormous
extreme
basement
flooding,
and
we
suffered
enormously
under
extreme
weather
events
over
the
years
and
there's
nothing
more
heartbreaking
than
going
to
visit
a
homeowner
who
has
their
basement
ruined
by
by
flooding
and
and
many
of
those
have
had
their
insurance
cut
off
as
as
well.
So
whenever
it
rains,
the
emails
start
coming
in
many
of
these
families
can't
sleep
at
night
when
they
hear
the
rain.
A
The
rain
on
the
roof
wondering
whether
they're
going
to
wake
up
in
the
morning
with
a
flooded
basement
so
going
forward.
This,
the
our
basement,
flooding
protection
program,
has
been
been
excellent.
I
hope
many
of
you
have
benefited
from
it.
I
know
thousands
of
homeowners
across
the
city
have
it's
protected
property?
It's
it's!
It's
protected
households!
A
A
A
A
A
N
Oh
wonderful,
thank
you,
counselor
members
of
the
committee
city
staff
and
members
of
the
public,
I'm
here
today
to
speak
on
behalf
of
cycle
toronto,
which
represents
about
3000
people
across
the
city
that
ride
their
bikes.
But
I
dare
to
say
that
I'm
speaking
today
as
well
on
behalf
of
many
others
that
walk
they
transit
and
you
can
drive
across
toronto.
I'd
like
to
just
take
a
second
to
reflect
on
the
fact
that
we
have
spent
tens
of
billions
of
dollars
on
building
a
road
network
for
driver.
N
We
continue
to
spend
hundreds
of
millions
or,
if
not
billions,
a
year
operating
and
maintaining
those
roads
as
as
was
discussed
today
and
and
we're
still
stuck
with
a
congestion
it,
and
I
wonder,
is
it
really
that
likely
that
this
fraction
of
a
billion
that
we
you
know
have
before
us
today?
Is
that
going
to
solve
problem
if
we
continue
to
only
prioritize
it
for
for
people
joining
and
if
we
think
back
to
the
50s,
you
know
when
we
built
the
gardener,
we
built
the
dvp
all
this
car
oriented
infrastructure.
N
What
was
the
population
of
toronto?
What
was
the
population
in
the
gta?
It
was
a
fraction
of
what
we
have
today
and
and
the
problems
that
we
face
today
are
not
solved
by
the
solutions
of
the
path.
I
think
the
401
is
a
great
example.
You
know
it
has
16
lanes
cutting
through
this
city
and
it
doesn't
have
traffic
lights.
There's
no
pedestrians
that
cross
the
street
there's
no
bike
lanes.
N
Those
are
key
key
programs
that
we
have
to
make
sure
are
integrated
properly
with
the
rollout
of
the
tto,
and
we
have
to
follow
the
transportation
hierarchy
of
people,
pedestrians,
cyclists,
transit
users
and
then,
finally,
drivers.
Those
are
how
these
decisions
and
prioritization
should
be
made
when
rolling
out
this
program.
So,
for
example,
when
we
talk
about
the
smart
signals
in
this
report,
you
know
can
all
of
the
intersections
that
get
this
treatment
be
given
a
leading
pedestrian
internet
by
default.
N
We
also
seen
in
the
past
that,
when
we've
hold
out,
you
know
so-called
smart
signals,
they're
only
smart
for
people
in
cars.
I've
seen
intersections
across
the
city
where
a
dozen
people
on
foot
or
on
bike
are
waiting
for
a
light
to
change,
and
it
never
will
until
someone
on
a
car
comes
by.
So
we
have
to
make
sure
that
when
we
roll
these
programs
up,
it
isn't
also
just
about
getting
cars
to
race
down
the
street
as
fast
as
possible.
N
We've
done
a
lot
to
try
to
reduce
the
dangerous
driving
and
speeding
in
the
city
and
there's
a
big
difference
between
smooth
and
efficient
flow
of
cars
than
just
letting
people
race
down
our
streets
jeopardizing
everybody
other
parts
of
this
plan
I
think
sound,
very
promising.
The
multimodal
data
collection
offers
us
the
opportunity
to
peel
back
the
curtain
and
show
how
people
are
getting
around
the
city
and
address
the
misconceptions
that
a
few
on
on
council
adds
to
that
and
that
data
has
to
be
open
and
accessible.
N
So
just
coming
back
to
the
fact
that
this
is,
you
know,
a
drop
of
the
bucket
the
money
that's
being
spent
today.
If
it's
only
spent
on
cars,
you
know
compared
to
the
amount
that's
been
spent
on
the
rapid
to
bus
line
on
the
transfer
geo
climate
action
plan
on
the
vision,
zero
road
safety
plan,
the
cycling
network,
take
all
those
plans
and
combine
the
amount
of
funding,
that's
been
dedicated,
and
today's
money
is
still
a
substantial
portion
of
what
those
programs
could
get
when
it
comes
time
to
finding
those
programs.
C
N
A
C
F
What
the
what
the
speaker
had
talked
about-
and
I
think
that
you
underscored
concert
leighton-
is
that
vision.
Zero
is
the
primary
goal
of
how
we
manage
our
transportation
network,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
looking
at
those
smart
signals
is
trying
to
come
up
with
a
vendor
and
a
solution
that
is
going
to
enable
us
to
address
vision,
zero
at
intersections,
as
well
as
managing
capacity
for
traffic,
and
so
the
solution
that
we're
bringing
forward
to
you
today
is
the
one
that
did
that.
F
E
Yeah
yeah,
just
just
a
side
comment
as
well
through
you,
mr
chair
and
counselor.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
question.
You're
100
right.
The
technology
really
has
advanced
a
lot
since
this
sort
of
adaptive
traffic
control
systems
that
we
had
earlier
in
the
90s,
but
this
particular
system.
When
we
did
our
pilot
evaluation,
we
saw
a
benefit
cost
ratio
of
four
to
one
and
we're
able
to
actually
achieve
travel
time
savings
of
up
to
three
percent
more
than
typical
manual
signal
coordination.
So
having
human
intervention.
E
That
being
said,
the
the
procurement
and
evaluation
process
started
back
in
2017
and
the
evaluation
took
a
lot
longer
than
any
of
us
had
kind
of
hoped.
Primarily
because,
as
barbara
mentioned,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
implementing
the
vision,
zero
constraints
within
these
systems.
There's
many
systems
out
there.
E
They
all
work
great,
but
really
and
truly
what
separates
the
the
better
systems,
in
our
mind,
are
the
ones
that
are
better
catered
towards,
adhering
to
things
like
leading
pedestrian
intervals,
increased
pedestrian
walk
times,
and
so,
as
barbara
mentioned,
the
particular
product
and
vendor
that
we're
moving
forward
with
and
we'd
like
to
move
forward
with
through.
This
report,
exhibited
the
capabilities
of
maintaining
those
vision,
zero
principles
in
parallel
with
being
able
to
maintain
reliable
travel
times
on
the
key
corridors.
C
Will
these
intelligent
intersections
be
able
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
raised
by
the
deputy
concerns?
I
share
about
the
perception
that
the
intersections
are
built
to
move
cars
rather
than
help
move
pedestrians
and
cyclists
safety,
for
example
like
the
the
notion
of
the
the
descending
timer
or
whatever
it's
called
I'm
sorry.
I
forgot
the
technology,
but
the
name
of
the
technology.
The
the
big
button
that
you
gotta
push
will
it
start
to
try
to
address
those
for
other
road
users
that
perhaps
aren't
in
vehicles.
E
Yeah
through
you,
mr
chair
yeah,
absolutely
I
think
that's
really
the
key
thing
with
respect
to
this,
I
think
per
the
speaker.
The
deputies
comments.
The
smart
signal
system
that
we're
promoting
right
now
has
the
ability
to
accommodate
the
vision,
zero
constraints
that
we've
implemented
with
respect
to
leading
pedestrian
interval.
As
I
said
before,
the
increased
pedestrian
walk
times
as
well,
too.
E
All
those
things
can
be
accommodated
and
if
I
could
really
emphasize
as
well
when
it
comes
to
these
smart
signal
systems
that
it's
not
about
speeding
up
cars,
it's
about
mitigating
the
stop
and
go
traffic
of
vehicles
on
roads.
We
want
vehicles
to
be
driving
the
speed
limit
on
roads
and,
if
they're
driving
as
people
have
on
roads,
they
should
be
able
to
experience
sort
of
green
waves
right.
E
C
F
Through
the
speaker
says,
the
construction
hubs
are
locations
where
we
have
both
a
combination,
a
high
volume
of
of
private
construction,
as
well
as
public
works.
So
the
first
one
that
we
launched
at
the
pilot
was
the
young
and
eglinton,
which
I
think
fairly
well
defines
that
kind
of
characteristic,
the
three
additional
that
we're
identifying
are
places
where
we
have
a
very
high
level
of
private
construction
and
there's
also
public
works
that
are
happening
that
require
us
to
be
much
more
proactive
in
managing
the
conditions
at
the
ground
level.
A
B
Mr
chair
you'll
you'll
recall
that
you
and
I
had
a
motion
adopted
by
council
to
look
at
assessing
the
effectiveness
of
the
congestion
management
plan,
which
was
supposed
to
be
reported
on
a
long
time
ago.
It
hasn't
been
reported
on
yet
when
will
we
receive
a
rep
council?
Ask
ask
for
four
things
that
haven't
been
comprehensively
discussed
in
this
report.
So
my
question
is:
is
when
will
that
report
be
presented
to
committee
to
go
to.
F
Council,
so
through
the
speaker,
I'll
start
on
that,
and
then
roger
probably
has
some
details
as
well.
My
understanding
is
that
the
the
request
to
look
at
the
congestion
pattern
from
2013
through
present
to
determine,
if
the
interventions
that
we
had
already
been
making
had
any
effect
on
congestion.
We
did
an
interim
report.
I
believe
it
was
in
december
that
did
not
come
with
the
plan
and
our
what
we
did
to
track.
F
F
We
were
had
launched
that
that
tool
in
about
february
when
cobit
happened,
and
so
now
what
we
have
for
you
today
in
this
particular
report
is
the
results
of
our
analysis
so
far,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
complete
the
work
that's
been
asked,
so
we're
happy
to
report
back
on
the
full
bit
of
information
when
we
have
more
normal
times
related
to
that.
But
we
took
the
results
of
those
requests
and
we
incorporated
them
into
the
information
that
is
in
this
report.
E
Yeah
sure,
thanks
through
the
chair
and
thanks
for
the
question
as
well
too
over
the
years
through
the
many
interventions
that
we've
done
on
the
congestion
management
plan,
we
have
periodically
reported
on
the
benefits
associated
with
those
implementations
in
terms
of
travel
time
savings
travel
time
reliability,
but
in
the
past,
because
we
didn't
have
as
good
a
grasp
in
terms
of
actual
data.
A
lot
of
that
reporting
through
previous
reports
was
actually
based
on
outputs
from
models.
E
We
now
have
the
capability
of
being
able
to
report
on
the
go
forward
in
terms
of
the
impacts
of
some
of
the
measures
that
we're
doing
relative
to
that
and
and
more
importantly,
to
recognize
the
fact
that
if
we
start
exceeding
that
that
threshold
or
baseline
in
terms
of
acceptable
congestion,
it
gives
us
the
ability,
then
to
sort
of
double
down
on
our
measures
to
sort
of
say.
Well,
we
should
be
doing
more
of
this
and
more
of
the
other
element
to
specifically
help
in
that
regard.
B
F
B
F
B
B
B
F
F
The
chair
I
mean:
is
there
a
documented
relationship
between
congestion
and
stress?
I
don't
know
the
data
related
to
document
any
documentation
about
congestion
and
stress.
We
certainly
hear
about
relationships
between
people's
daily
travel
and
their
stressful
daily
travel,
and
it
could
be
related
to
congestion.
It
could
be
related
to
crossing
streets
safely
or
catching
their
bus.
So
there's
lots
of
different
different
things
that
are
related
to
stress
and
travel.
B
F
F
We
have
some
good
news
on
that
coming
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
and
and
we
are
looking
to
figure
out
how
we
can
deploy
some
of
those
agents
in
non-congested
times
to
help
with
the
the
flipping
on
of
traffic
signals,
because
we
do
need
to
manage
the
traffic
flow
at
those
intersections
when
we
do
add
new
signals
that
has
typically
taken
quite
a
long
time
in
the
past,
and
we
are
looking
to
minimize
that
timeframe.
Quite
considerable.
E
A
E
A
E
Through
mr
chair,
it's
really
an
opening
up
of
the
box
and
reprogramming
it.
The
actual
signal
heads
themselves
don't
need
to
change.
There
is
actual
detection
infrastructure,
rather
microwave
radar,
camera
video
analytics
that
would
have
to
go
on
to
actually
detect
the
traffic
volumes
themselves,
but
yeah
the
basic
infrastructure,
the
signals,
the
poles,
all
those
things
would
remain.
A
B
B
I
I
just
want
to
know
about
the
technology
where
it's,
if
it's
been
done,
other
places
that
we're
not
going
to
get
a
piece
of
technology.
That's
not
going
to
you
know
in
two
or
three
years,
it's
going
to
cack
out
and
that's
been
used
in
other
places
that
it's
a
tried
and
trusted
and
established
technology
that
this
company
is
has
a
lot
of
other
contracts
other
places
and
we're
not
and
we're
not
buying
something
that
we're
going
to
be
disappointed
with
in
five
five
years.
From
now,.
E
Okay.
Three,
mr
chair,
that's
an
excellent
question.
Yes,
so
in
the
evaluation,
the
first
part
of
the
evaluation
was
looking
at
the
various
vendors
and
products
in
terms
of
what
other
jurisdictions
they've
been
used
in
the
scout
system
is
a
very,
very
well
known
system.
That's
been
used
all
over
the
world
for
decades,
tried
tested
true
and
the
specific
vendor
that
we're
looking
to
engage
with
transcore
is
the
same
vendor.
C
A
C
C
A
C
E
C
Perfect,
thank
you
very
much,
and
the
first
one
is
that
city
council
direct,
the
general
manager
of
transportation
sources
to
ensure
vision.
Zero
principles
are
key
considerations
and
the
determination
and
prioritization
of
measures
to
be
implemented
under
move
to
interim
action
plan.
Two,
the
city
council
requests
the
general
manager
transportation
services
consider
at
the
appropriate
time
adding
yorkville
to
the
construction
hub
pilot
project.
The
next
motions.
C
This
is
that
city
council
requests
the
general
manager
of
transportation
services
to
include
the
additional
area
bound
by
queen
street
west
bathurst,
king
and
university
avenue
in
the
proposed
lakeshore
corridor
construction
hub
described
in
appendix
7.
The
next
motion,
please,
that
was
on
behalf
of
councillor.
C
C
And
this
is
that
the
infrastructure
environment
committee
amend
recommendation
for
by
adding
the
words
consistent
with
the
targets
established
by
transform
to
into
into
recommendation,
for
I
think,
that's
the
last
one
I'll
just
go
into
to
say
the
first,
the
first
two
motions.
The
first
is
about
adding
the
principles
of
vision,
zero
into
sort
of
the
guiding
elements
of
what
what
we
adopt.
I
was
happy
to
hear
that
it's
playing
more
of
a
role
in
how
this
technology
is
being
implemented.
C
I
think
that
that's
important,
not
only
politically,
but
how
our
staff
evaluate
the
proposals,
I'm
confident
that
they
will
and
they
can-
and
I
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
in
our
general
manager
that
that
she'll
make
sure
that,
from
all
the
way
from
the
implementation
stage
of
small
curbside
projects,
all
the
way
up
the
line
to
managing
the
flow
of
traffic
across
the
city
that
she'll
keep
that
in
mind.
I
think,
though,
that
council
sending
a
strong
voter
support
as
that,
as
a
key
principle
is
important.
C
The
second
one
is
specific
to
ward.
11
is
for
consideration
of
a
of
a
construction
hub
and
again
it
says
consideration
at
the
appropriate
time,
because
we're
not
quite
there
yet,
but
I'll
tell
you
between
the
blocks
of
young
and
blue,
sorry
of
of
young
and
bay,
bloor
and
and
and
just
two
blocks
north
to
yorkville.
There
are
five
towers
going
up
in
the
next
couple
of
years:
five,
sixty
plus
or
or
fifty
plus
story
towers,
just
west
of
there
between
bay
and
avenue
road
south
of
yorkville.
C
We
put
a
consideration
on
transformto
and
the
objectives
of
that,
because
there
are
significant
objectives
to
how
we
need
to
change
our
patterns
of
transportation
in
order
to
achieve
vision,
zero,
which
is
our
target
by
2050,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
planning
for
that
now,
rather
than
planning
to
deal
with
only
cars
now
and
and
then
try
to
change
that
in
the
future.
It's
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
start
now
along
along
those
lines.
You
know,
I
think,
as
I
don't
drive
that
much
it's
not
that
I
don't
drive.
C
I
just
don't
drive
that
much.
I
I
live
close
to
a
transit
line.
That's
I'm
very
fortunate
to
do
that.
I
made
a
choice
because
I
determined
where
I
was
going
to
live,
that
I
wanted
to
live
in
an
area
that
was
well
serviced
by
transit
and
because
I
didn't
want
to
spend
half
my
life
in
the
car
driving
to
or
from
work
on
long
commutes.
I
also
in
early
life.
I
was
a
cyclist
in
a
later
life.
C
I
became
a
cyclist
once
I
sort
of
got
off
on
my
own
and
realized
how
expensive
cars
were,
and
I'd
prefer
to
prefer
to
be
cycling
to
to
stay
healthy
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
people
out
there
that
use
roads
in
a
variety
of
ways.
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
moving
all
of
them
around
efficiently
and
I'm
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that.
We've
moved
away
from
this.
C
This
notion
that
traffic
lights
are
about
moving
cars
and
traffic
lights,
are
about
ensuring
that
or
move
cars
quickly
and
they're
actually
about
moving
everyone
around
efficiently
and
safely
in
in
our
communities,
and
I
think
we're
always
going
to
have
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
we're
going
to
have
to
get
better
in
order
to
achieve
that
vision,
zero,
which
council
adopted,
I
believe
unanimously.
I
can't
imagine
anyone
that
would
vote
against
trying
to
reduce
the
number
of
road
deaths,
serious
accidents
to
zero.
C
And
then
we
can
start
looking
down
the
list
about
what
are
some
of
the
other
objectives
that
we
want
to
achieve
like
our
climate
objective,
like
our
objective,
for
making
it
reducing
the
length
of
the
trip
that
everyone
takes
to
get
home.
It's
it's
about
getting
home,
though,
is
that
that
first
goal-
and
I
think
we
need
to
always
keep
that
in
mind
when
we're
talking
about
managing
vehicles
and
people
on
our
on
our
streets.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
hope
you'll
support
my
motion.
B
I
don't
have
a
motion,
mr
chair
I'll,
just
say
that
you
know
the
implementation
of
these
traffic
signals
to
my
mind
and
I
think
to
95
of
the
people
in
the
city
is
about
efficiently
moving
traffic,
and
that
means
motor
vehicles
there's
way
too
much.
Gridlock
in
the
city
and
cars
are
stuck
in
traffic
and
I
think
most
people
would
think
it
would
be
preposterous
to
say
that
this
is
not
about
moving
cars
through
the
city.
B
O
Well,
I
want
to
clarify
the
assertion
made
by
the
deputy
mayor
about
people
wanting
to
move
cars
only
move
cars
and
that's
you
know
again.
I
push
for
the
creation
of
the
construction
safety
hub
at
young
and
eglinton,
because
that
is
development,
insanity
gone
overboard
and
it
continues
and
if
you
talk
to
people
who
live
work
in
the
eglinton
young
area,
you'll
see
that
they
have
been
literally
crying
out
for
something
to
be
done
about
their
inability
to
walk
on
the
sidewalk
to
cross
the
street,
never
mind.
O
You
know
you
cycle
along
eglinton
with
the
egg
within
crosstown.
Well,
you
probably
have
better
luck.
Cycling
in
you
know
in
thailand
or
somewhere,
but
in
bangkok,
but
you
know
people
were
worried
about
their
safety
getting
to
a
store
getting
to
the
subway
station
getting
from
their.
You
know,
homes
to
visit
someone
else.
O
So
that's
what
I
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
is
sure
everybody
wants
to
get
through
the
city
at
a
good
rate
of
speed,
going
from
a
to
b
in
their
cars
and
the
most
legitimate
drivers
have.
That
concerns
a
legitimate
concern,
but
to
underestimate
the
importance
of
taking
into
account
the
safety
of
our
citizens
as
they
try
to
navigate
our
streets
and
sidewalks,
whether
it
be
in
you
know,
cycling
modes
or
in
pedestrian
or
and
never
mind
the
threat
to
seniors.
O
O
It's
not
just
moving
cars,
it's
about
simple
safety
and
you
shouldn't
have
to
worry
about
whether
you're
going
to
make
it
to
the
subway
station
or
make
it
to
the
local
store,
because
you
may
be
run
over
by
some
truck
climbing
the
sidewalk
or
some
you
know
front
end
loader
trying
to
work
on
a
condo.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
the
record
too.
Thank
you.
D
D
D
And,
as
you
know,
our
ravine
system
is
an
active
place
these
days.
I
know
I
spend
quite
a
bit
of
time
down
there
and
there
are
a
lot
more
people.
A
lot
more
people
cycling,
a
lot
more
people
walking
around
a
lot
more
people
walking
their
dogs
a
lot
more
people
just
sight,
seeing
a
lot
more
people.
You
know
just
you
know.
D
You
know
congregated
in
groups
of
ones
and
twos
along
the
system,
just
kind
of
bird
watching
and
all
those
things,
and
and
I'm
afraid
that
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
allow
them
access
and
allow
people
access
throughout
the
the
winter
season
to
this
just
for
the
coveted
period-
and
I
understand
that
this
is
a
this-
is
a
a
complicated
one.
But
I
would
like
our
staff
to
take
a
look
at
the
feasibility
of
that
so
that
people
can
use
it.
D
You
know
if
we
cleared
up
some
of
those
pathways
in
our
ravine
system,
then
people
could
go
down,
enjoy
the
winter
enjoy
the
snow
enjoy
their
toboggans
enjoy
sightseeing,
enjoy
walking
their
dog
enjoy
whatever
it
is
that
they
enjoy
doing
yeah
in
the
absence
of
bars
and
restaurants
and
clubs,
and
gyms
and
group
sports
and
group
activities,
and
birthdays
and
weddings
and
all
of
those
other
and
churches.
And
all
of
these
knowing
things
that
yeah
we
want
to
do.
D
I
I
I
hope
I
I
I
I
got
that
out
there.
The
second
motion
speaker
is
just
simply
about
us
being
involved
in
some
of
the
process
in
in
in
locating
certainty,
smart,
you
know
smart
intersections,
as
you
will.
I
think
all
of
us
collectively
understand
our
neighborhoods
really
really
well
and
I'll.
Just
make
a
point.
You
know,
for
example,
the
cameras
that
we've
been
rolling
out
in
the
absence
of
our
involvement,
for
example,
there's
one
located
on
the
street
on
dairy
down
in
my
area.
D
There's
lots
of
other
places
that
it
could
be
better
located.
It's
a
street,
but
people
don't
have
a
you
know
an
ability
to
speed
on
there's
always
cars
parked
on
the
street
and
the
rest
of
it.
I'm
not
sure
how
that
location
was
chosen,
for
example,
but
I,
but
I
would
like
our
staffs
to
win
they're,
locating
these
things
to
at
least
the
prizes
of
that,
so
that
we
might
be
able
to
to
have
some
comment
on
them.
I
know
that
counselor
cole
would
be
eager
to
sort
of.
D
You
know
point
out
that
the
pros
and
cons
of
of
specific
locations,
because
he
knows
where
pedestrians
cross
the
street
he
knows
where
they're
there
they're
they're
at
greater
risk.
He
knows
where
you
need.
You
need
this
kind
of
stuff
to
happen,
and
I
think
that
we
are
on
a
a
really
invaluable
resource
to
our
staffs
and
to
our
in
and
rolling
out
these
systems.
So
I
I
I
I
believe
we
should.
D
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
L
L
L
L
L
The
city
of
toronto
must
prepare
this
winter
season
for
an
increase
in
use
of
our
cycling
infrastructure,
pedestrian
traffic
and
public
amenities.
Downtown
midtown
east
york
has
low
car
ownership,
but
high
rates
of
transit
and
pedestrian
use
to
get
around
this
winter.
Keeping
our
sidewalks
accessible
for
seniors
parents
with
children
and
people
with
accessibility
is
imperative.
L
L
L
A
A
P
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
harvard
village
resident
association,
we're
bounded
by
bloor
spadina
college
and
bathurst
within
our
neighborhood
or
just
next
next
door.
We
are
blessed
with
three
primary
schools:
two
secondary
schools,
university
and
college,
a
dozen
places
of
worship,
a
plethora
of
local
shops,
restaurants,
professional
medical
offices,
music
and
arts
venues,
kensington
market
and
a
major
long-term
care
facility.
P
P
P
P
Thus,
the
walkable
neighborhood
turns
in
turns
homes
into
prisons,
for
some
elderly
and
those
with
mobility
challenges,
and
it
goes
without
saying
that
social
distancing
on
a
1.6
meter,
sidewalk,
is
already
a
problem,
let
alone
walking
when
it's
obstructed
with
snow,
to
quantify
that
those
risks
and
fears
legitimate
fears.
I'll
cite
a
public
health
report
2016
from
toronto,
public
health
called
preventing
injuries
from
wintertime
slips
and
falls
in
toronto.
P
It
reports
that
almost
30
000
emergency
visits
were
due
to
falls
on
snow
and
ice
from
2006
to
15.,
I'm
quoting
them
slips
and
falls
on
ice
and
snow
cost.
The
city
about
6.7
million
dollars
per
year
is
a
result
of
insurance
liability
claims
again,
quoting
page
seven
and
challenges
arise
when
snow
accumulates
on
sidewalks
rather
than
being
cleared
away
and
on
page
seven
and
eight
quoting-
and
this
is
most
likely
to
occur
in
the
areas
of
the
former
city
of
toronto
and
east
york,
which
do
not
have
mechanical
snow
clearing.
A
L
Thank
you,
I'm
guillermo
or
gil
penalosa,
and
I'm
speaking
as
a
citizen
of
toronto
who
lost
the
city,
not
on
behalf
of
any
organization,
I'm
I'm
speaking,
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
sidewalks,
because
I
think
sidewalks
is
by
far
the
most
important
infrastructure
of
the
city.
I
mean
on
the
road
when
you
are
going
on
a
bicycle
or
on
public
transit
or
on
cars,
you're
going
from
point
a
to
point
b,
not
on
the
sidewalks
on
the
sidewalks.
This
is
where
people
meet
boyfriends
and
girlfriends,
where
we
meet
our
neighbors.
L
People
who
sell
coffee
or
flowers
or
fruits
is
there
is
where
we
have
developed
a
sense
of
belonging
to
the
city.
If
you
go
for
coffee
and
we
might
take
45
minutes
because
we
see
that
watch
and
chat
so
by
far
sidewalk
is
the
most
important
part
of
the
but
the
most
important
infrastructure
in
any
city
and
now
about
winter.
I
think
winter.
Also
more
than
anything,
is
a
mental
issue.
I
mean
in
toronto
over
the
last
20
years.
The
average
is
one
two
three
one
meter
23
centimeters
of
snow
over
five
months.
L
So
it's
not
that
much
so
we
should
pay
priority
to
the
most
vulnerable
people,
who
are
the
most
vulnerable
people.
By
far
the
workers
are
the
most
vulnerable.
Then
the
people
that
ride
bicycles
and
the
people
that
take
public
hunters
then
the
people
that
use
cars,
so
that
should
be
the
order
of
priorities.
Sometimes
we
are
not.
We
want
to
clean
up
the
sidewalks,
okay,
all
of
them,
because
we
think
we
save
money.
Well,
we
would
say
even
more
money
if
we
don't
plow
the
streets.
L
Take
the
action,
then
it's
not
vision,
zero,
but
it's
zero
vision,
which
is
mostly
what
so
far
has
been
happening
in
toronto.
The
parks
I
think
the
park
we
need
to
get
people
are
in
the
park.
52
weeks
of
the
year.
We
must
plow
the
side
with
all
the
trails
on
the
parks
that
is
critical,
minneapolis,
which
has
the
best
park
systems
in
north
america.
L
L
A
summer
infrastructure
parks
is
365
days
of
the
year,
so
so
I
I
think
it's
very
very
important,
and
I
want
to
conclude
by
saying
that
this
of
having
sidewalks
and
by
the
way
we
need
to
have
sidewalks
everywhere.
It's
really
shameful
that
a
few
weeks
ago,
city
council
were
gonna,
approve
buildings
from
sidewalks,
as
recommended
by
staff
and
council,
when
approved
the
motion
of
two
councilors.
That
did
not
want
sidewalks
on
the
that.
That
should
not
be
acceptable.
L
I
mean
a
community
can
enhance
the
fireworks,
but
it's
totally
unacceptable
to
have,
because
in
winter,
if
you
don't
have
sidewalks
and
you're
walking
on
the
street
and
you
sleep
and
fall
down,
you
might
be
run
over
by
a
car.
If
you
have
a
sidewalk,
you
might
also
sleep,
but
then
you're
not
going
to
be
run
over
by
a
car,
but
anyway,
these
issues
are
not
technical.
L
These
issues
are
not
financial.
These
issues
are
political
and
you
have
the
magic
wand.
You
can
decide
if
people
die
or
people
live.
If
you,
according
to
the
speed
limit
across
the
city,
if
you
had
as
a
default
speed,
30
kilometers
all
over
the
city,
you
would
save
lives.
You
know
how
many
people
are
going
to
kill
on
on
a
crash
if
the
car
is
going
at
30
and
how
many
are
40,
how
many
are
50.,
so
you
have
the
magic
wand
to
decide
if
people
live
or
die.
L
So
you
need
to
use
that
magic
one.
In
order
to
have
a
city
where
all
citizens
are
gonna
be
safer,
we're
all
citizens
are
gonna,
be
healthier
and
happier.
So,
let's
improve
the
all
the
snow
clearing
in
the
sidewalks
in
the
crosswalks
in
the
park
in
all
of
the
trails
throughout
the
winter
and
let's
improve
their
quality
throughout
the
year.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
G
G
G
The
toronto
office
recovery,
rebuild
report
approved
by
council
last
month,
includes
numerous
recommendations
to
build
back
better.
The
report
specifically
highlights
winter
maintenance,
with
recommendation
number
67
develop
a
winter's,
a
winter
city
plan
to
pursue
winter
solutions
for
active
to
include
increased
resilience
on
a
year-round
basis.
G
Further.
We
stress
the
need
for
medium
and
long-term
winter
plants
that
include
environmentally
friendly
alternatives,
assaulting
as
a
method
of
de-icing
and
investigating
new
equipment,
including
brushes,
but
like
activeto
itself.
The
city
needs
to
respond
rapidly
and
adapt
quickly
to
make
our
city
safe
and
accessible
this
winter.
On
monday,
toronto
had
its
first
snowfall
of
the
season.
G
Toronto
needs
to
ensure
the
city
prioritizes
clearing
sidewalks
paths
and
bike
lanes
this
winter,
with
an
even
greater
urgency
than
we
dedicate
to
clearing
our
roads.
We
applaud
this
motion
and
is
already
well
overdue,
with
new
coven
19
cases
of
at
a
record
high
toronto
and
torontonians
are
going
to
have
to
embrace
winter
in
a
way
that
we
traditionally
have
not.
Ensuring
people
can
get
outside
and
stay
active,
whether
for
recreation
or
for
transportation
will
be
crucial
this
winter.
G
While
there's
no
denying
the
success
of
the
major
of
the
active
to
major
road
closures
and
new
bike
lanes
over
the
summer,
there
is
a
misconception
that
riding
a
bike
is
only
a
fair
weather
activity
similar
to
skating,
tobogganing
or
even
playing
hockey.
Cycling
is
another
example
of
an
outdoor
winter
activity.
Cities
around
the
world,
such
as
montreal,
which
have
more
kilometers
of
bike
lanes
and
more
year-round
cycling
dispel
this
myth.
G
Toronto
has
fewer
snow
days
than
one
might
think.
Another
ominous
reason
to
support
more
active
transportation
to
achieve
our
transformed
to
climate
goals,
including
75
of
all
trips,
not
just
trips
through
spring
and
summer,
under
five
kilometers
being
walked
or
biked
toronto.
Star
columnist,
matt
elliott
recently
calculated
that
toronto
has
been
averaging
about
50
days
per
year,
with
temperatures
below
5
degrees
centigrade
or
with
more
than
5
centimeters
of
snow
on
the
ground
since
2016.,
even
among
those
50
days,
cycling
at
-5
can
still
be
comfortable
for
winter
activity.
G
One
third
of
all
trips
across
toronto
are
less
than
five
kilometers,
which
typically
takes
about
20
minutes
and
would
be
very
likable
with
safe
infrastructure
for
many
torontonians.
This
winter
that's
20,
minutes
spent
getting
to
their
destination
rather
than
waiting
outside
of
the
bus.
Stop
ensuring
people
can
continue
to
travel
within
their
neighborhoods
and
support.
Local
businesses
doesn't
end
when
the
snow
falls.
A
C
C
F
F
F
Budget,
the
ability
for
us
to
get
more
equipment.
That's
wanting
to
address
this
season.
Mechanical
equipment
is
not
likely
to
be
possible
and
we're
also
working
to
figure
out
how
we
can
address
those
areas
of
the
city
of
which
there
are
a
number
within
that
thousand
kilometers
that
are
not
acceptable
by
mechanical
equipment,
they're
just
too
narrow.
There's
too
many
encroachments,
there's
hydro,
poles.
Both
types
of
things.
F
C
F
J
J
C
J
So,
outside
of
the
downtown
midtown
area,
we
are
currently
mechanically
clearing,
just
under
just
under
6
000
kilometers,
about
54
about
fifty
six
hundred
fifty
six
hundred
kilometers
of
sidewalks,
those
sidewalks
are
being
mechanically
cleared
because
of
the
fact
that
they
are
wider.
There
are
much
less
encroachments,
much
less
obstacles
and
there's
no
or
very
little
permitted
parking
on
the
streets.
So
it's
physically
able
to
be
cleared
mechanically.
C
F
F
In
2019
2020
we
had
3
000
ice
and
snow
covered,
sidewalk
complaints.
We
did
624
inspections,
we
laid
44
charges
and
then
we
had
only
eight
of
those
that
our
rodops
folks
came
back
to
to
clear.
So
we
actually
had
relatively
good
compliance
and
we've
seen
that
year
over
year
that
if
our
our
standards
officers
go
out
and
they
issue
people
a
warning,
then
typically
people
will
clear,
but
we
do
have
the
ability
to
go
back
in
and
do
the
work
and
charge
back
to
the
homeowner.
C
F
Three
thousand
complaints
that
our
tsos
were
asked
to
that
were
lodged
and
then
624
inspections
resulting
in
44
charges.
So
very
often
they'll
go
out
and
do
the
initial
inspection
and
by
the
time
they
get
there
it's
already
cleared
or
if
they
issue
a
warning,
then
then,
by
the
time
they
come
back
to
check
the
next
day
or
12
hours
later
then
it's
already
cleared.
B
So
there's
really
not
and
based
on
previous
history
with
regard
to
costs
and
all
that
a
lot
of
that
ink
has
already
been
spilled
and
you
can
get
a
lot
of
that
information
already
and
the
challenges
of
removal
and
all
that
type
of
stuff.
You've
you've
actually
done
a
great
deal
of
historical
analysis.
That's
already
on
the
books.
Yes,.
B
F
Through
through
the
chair,
yeah
cycling
definitely
is
reduced
in
the
winter
time
fewer
people
choose
to
cycle
in
the
winter
again
having
this
travel
index
is
going
to
be
very
interesting
this
year,
because
we've
seen
an
increase
in
people
cycling
in
neighborhoods,
certainly
over
the
summer,
and
we
assume
that
we
will
continue
to
see
steady
cycling
volumes
in
the
winter.
I
doubt
there'll
be
certainly
a
large
summertime,
so
there
will
be
a
reduction,
but
there
will
be
a
number
of
people
cycling
during
covet
time.
B
B
F
I'm
gonna
have
to
lean
on
ashley
curtis,
my
budget
guy.
With
regard
to
the
total
amount,
we
certainly
have
had
a
significant
reduction
in
terms
of
revenues
and
we've
been
managing
a
lot
of
our
of
our
pressures
with
regard
to
salary
savings
as
well.
So
I
can
certainly
get
you
that
information
quickly,
if,
if,
if
you
can't
pull
it
up
right
here,
but
we
definitely.
L
B
Can
I
get
that
number,
because
that
really
kind
of
everything
seems
to
be
discussed
without
considering
everything
costs,
a
lot
of
money
that
you
don't
have
and
like?
It
seems
to
be
money's
going
out
the
door
and
in
terms
of
context,
we
have
to
make
financial
decisions,
but
we
never
talk
oftentimes.
We
don't
often
talk
about
financial
implications
and
we
should.
B
B
B
F
F
They
can
and
the
other
piece
that's
important,
and
I
know
a
number
of
the
speakers
referenced
it
in
terms
of
our
most
vulnerable
residents,
the
sidewalk
trial.
The
mechanical
trial
that
we're
doing
in
downtown
is
heavily
the
locations,
are
heavily
influenced
by
the
location
of
senior
residences.
So
we're
using
that
information
to
to
be
able
to
deploy
those
5000
locations
where
we
have
heavy
volumes
of
seniors
living,
because
we
know
that
the
impacts
are
even
more
significant
for
them
in
the
wintertime.
A
Now
many
of
the
deputies
and,
of
course,
the
drafters
of
the
motion
reference
that
this
is
not
equitable,
that
our
sidewalk
clearing
program
across
the
city
is
not
fair,
not
equitable,
because
the
listed
areas
of
the
city
are
not
getting
it.
But
the
physical
geography
of
some
of
these
downtown
colossal
locations
is
that
is
that
particularly
difficult
to
to
clear?
Or
is
it
on
a
par
with
some
of
the
inner
suburbs?.
F
It
is
very
difficult
to
clear
in
some
locations
in
part
because
of
the
encroachment,
so
there
are
things
like
retaining
walls.
There
are
hydro
poles,
many
of
the
sidewalks
are
quite
narrow,
not
all
of
them,
and
so
one
of
the
key
pieces
of
this
trial
was
to
be
able
to
document
and
identify
where
those
encroachments
are
so
that
we
could
actually
put
together
a
program
where,
where
the
plows
could
operate,
the
other
impact
is
on
street
parking,
which
you
certainly
don't
see,
city
one.
A
A
B
Sure
I
just
want
to
quickly
say
I'm
going
to
vote
against
motion
number
one,
because
we're
already
get
that's
already
going
to
the
budget
committee.
So
we've
already,
it's
not
necessary
motion
number
two,
I'm
not
you
know
too
keen
on
given
the
we
don't
have
like
the
number
of
cyclists
that
that
bike
in
in
the
winter
time
is
very,
very
low,
we'll
be
clearing
bicycle
paths
for
people
for
people
that
don't
use
the
bike
paths
anymore.
B
The
majority
of
them
will
go
on
transit
or
drive
or
find
some
other
alternative
in
the
winter
and
the
third
one
we've
actually
already
covered
that
off
in
a
previous
item.
So
I
don't
know
I
mean
you
could
rule
that
it's
you
know
superfluous
because
we
already
decided
on
it.
But
if
you
don't,
because
we've
already
covered
that
one
off,
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
to
vote
for
that
either.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
L
So,
thank
you.
It's
just
clarifying,
you
know
a
subset.
I
think
we
need
to
prioritize
these
park
pathways
and
look
at
which
ones
will
get
high
recreational
and
active.
That
should
say
transportation,
not
transpiration,
transportation,
winter
use
and
then
also
make
sure
that
those
options
there
was
another.
L
A
C
All
right
did
sharon
of
order.
If
I
could
sure
I
I
have
first
off.
I
would
remark
that
that
council
mckell
kelsey
is
probably
the
only
counselor
that
transpiration
would
replace
transportation
in
her
autocorrect
I'll.
Just
say
that
the
but
the
second
point:
what
could
could
the
clerk
put
on
the
screen?
Counselor
approver,
says
motion
from
the
previous
item,
because
it's
not
coming
up
on
the
I'm
just
trying
to
determine
where
they're
the
same
and
where
they're
different.
It's
not
coming
up
on
the
meeting
management
system.
A
C
C
Yeah,
but
and
with
all
due
respect
to
counselor
mckelvey,
I
don't
want
to
vote
for
councilman
kelvi's
motion
because
it
will
be,
it
will
be
a
significant
delay,
but
if,
if
the
clerk
could
put
counselors
for
roots
as
previous
motion
on
the
screen,
it's
just
that
then
we
wouldn't.
We
wouldn't
get
the
win.
A
C
A
C
Amended
enough,
I
would
just
argue,
I
would
argue
that
what
counselor
mckelvey's
asking
for
is
actually
more
consistent
with
what
counselor
bruce
has
asked
has
asked
for
in
that
counts.
The
motion
before
us
is
actually
to
develop
a
plan
not
to
come
back
with
the
feasibility,
but
I
I
it's.
We
can
get
past
that
and
I
can.
I
can
move
my
motion
if,
if
the
chair
wishes.
A
A
C
C
C
So
this
is
I'm
putting
forward
this
motion
because
the
idea
was
we
wanted
to
bring
it
back
during
this
season
so
that
we
could
try
to
address
the
the
safety
concerns,
the
inequality
that
continues
that
we
thought
would
be
addressed
this
year
because
the
pilot
was
supposed
to
be.
It
was
a
one-year
pilot.
C
Then,
last
year
I
appreciate
the
the
the
challenges
with
with
ordering
equipment
and
the
challenges
we
might
have
with
with
finding
new
equipment,
but
we
wanted
to
establish
that
we
wanted
to
address
the
issue
this
year
that
that
that
puts
at
risk
people
in
certain
communities
rather
than
others.
That
is,
it
is
inequitable
in
that
we
don't
have
a
a
snow
management
fee,
that's
different
in
other
neighborhoods
than
it
is
in
midtown,
east
york
and
downtown.
It's
all
the
same.
C
In
fact,
I
think
the
only
person
that's
gotten
even
close
to
that
on
this
meeting
is
councilman
and
wong
who
suggested
that,
because
for
budgetary
reasons,
perhaps
we
should
we
shouldn't
move
forward
with
one
common
standard.
I
would
argue
that
maybe
there's
some
some
some
justice
in
that,
but
the
only
way
that
it
would
be
done
fairly
is
if
we
reduced
everyone's
standard
to
the
standard
of
east
york,
the
midtown
and
and
and
the
downtown.
C
C
I
had
experiences
for
for
many
years
and
I
recounted
them
to
council
on
a
couple
occasions
where
I
had
to
physically
pick
up
a
stroller
that
had
a
child
and
groceries
in
it
and
walk
through
a
foot
of
snow
in
front
of
city
parks
in
front
of
and
in
front
of
people's
homes
that
didn't
clear
their
snow,
and
I
I
I
I
don't
think
it's
just
because
the
the
people
downtown
are
for
some
are
some
way
more
inconsiderate
than
those
in
in
surrounding
areas.
Fact.
C
Is
those
surrounding
areas
get
their
snow
cleared
and
they
don't
in
the
downtown
core
midtown
in
east
york,
and
this
issue
about
parking
is:
is
bogus?
East
york
is
split,
half
gets,
gets
cleared,
half
dozen,
it
all
has
parking
or
for
the
most
part,
does
so
there's
no
rhyme
or
reason
for
this,
except
for
the
fact
that
we
didn't
address
the
service
level
at
the
time
of
amalgamation.
Instead,
we
decided
to
save
money,
let's
keep
people
in
some
neighborhoods
shoving
their
own
snow
and
some
not.
C
To
be
honest,
I
had
no
idea
anyone
got
got
their
sidewalk
clearer
than
this
until
I
found
this
out-
and
I
was
a
city
counselor,
partly
because
I
was
the
one
tasked
with
shoveling
the
snow
in
front
of
my
house
every
day
for
well
every
every
couple
days,
every
winter
for
for
most
of
my
life,
it
would
be
nice
to
see
this
resolved
quickly.
This
season,
I'll
move
on
to
the
next
point.
The
reason
why
people
don't
bike
in
bike
lanes
in
the
city?
C
Here's
the
secret-
it's
not
because
it's
cold,
it's
because
the
lanes
aren't
clear
and
it's
super
dangerous
and
scary
to
do
it.
I'm
even
one
of
those
cyclists
that,
when
it
snows
and
icy,
I
put
my
bike
in
the
garage,
because
I
can't
I
can't
put
myself
at
that
risk.
But
if
we
did
it
properly,
like
some
other
municipalities
do
when
they
brush
it
away
early
and
they
go
in
a
couple
of
times
and
not
just
push
it
to
the
side.
Then
we
could
resolve
this.
C
C
When
you
keep
when
the
snow
keeps
piling
up
in
there
or
you
let
the
snow
accumulate
or
after
a
couple
of
days,
it
pushes
back
out
from
cars,
pushing
it
back
back
out
from
where
it
was
put
to
the
side
or
the
parking
issues
that
you
get
there
you're
not
going
to
have
the
cyclist
there
and
that's
why
you
see
such
a
decline,
and
I
know
because
I'm
one
of
them
where
this
that
might
contribute
to
that
decline.
Finally,
in
parks
come
on,
people
are
going
to
use
our
parks
more
than
ever
this
year.
C
We
have
to
clean
the
snow
in
them.
We
can't
wait
or
or
sit
like,
perhaps
maybe
prioritize
some
as
counselor
mckelvey
has
suggested,
because
maybe
there
are
spans
that
won't
get
as
much
use,
but
we've
got
to
start
cleaning
those
main
pathways
and
parks,
because
people
are
still
going
to
want
to
run
in
them.
They're
still
going
to
want
to
go
out
with
their
kids
and
they're
still
going
to
want
to
enjoy
our
city,
despite
the
fact
that
they
can't
do
it
in
in
the
comfort
of
their
home
with
their
friends.
D
B
A
A
First
of
all,
this
narrative
that
that
it's
that
it's
not
fair
downtown,
I
I
think
that's
a
kind
of
an
old
stale
kind
of
narrative
across
the
city
where
people
are
too
often
looking
at
what
other
parts
of
the
city
have
and
and
feel
that
they
are
being
shortchanged
when
it
comes
to
downtown
by
any
standard
of
measurement,
whether
it's
the
arts,
athletics,
libraries,
community,
centers,
the
shoreline
high
level
travel,
they
are
far
better
off
than
other
areas
of
the
city.
This
is
one
peculiarity
that
was
not
solved
when
amalgamation
took
place.
A
Yet
you
know
when
you
read
through
what
the
what
the
city
is
doing
to
alleviate
those
issues,
the
purchase
of
equipment
and
the
a
pilot
program
that
will
clear,
200,
kilometers
of
sidewalk
as
part
of
the
trial,
a
seniors
and
disabilities
persons
with
disabilities
program
to
help
with
the
clearing
of
of
sidewalks
and
walkways
for
those
who
are
unable
to
and
and
a
fairly
rigorous
enforcement
program.
That
leads
to
very
few
very
few
charges.
Actually,
I
was
surprised
at
how
low
it
is.
A
I
think
the
the
answer
here
is
to
let
the
pilot
take
its
course.
It's
unfortunate
that
it's
not
finished
to
date,
but
that's
that's
not
the
end
of
the
world.
We
can
still
work
on
it
and
I
think
staff
should
be
allowed
to
continue
their
pilot
and
right
and
report
back
next
year.
I
don't
think
that
anything's
going
to
happen
this
season,
we've
heard
from
city
staff.
If
you
want
to
get
into
more
enforcement.
A
If
you
want
to
clear
the
walkways
and
sidewalks
and
patios
of
retail
establishments
and
and
multi-unit
residential
areas
and
offices
and
so
forth,
then
I
think
we
have
to
enhance
the
enforcement
at
those
addresses
and
that
certainly
will
clear
up
a
lot
a
lot
of
the
problem.
You
know
I
I
warned
people
downtown,
including
the
movers
of
the
motion,
councilor
matlow
and
councillor
layton.
Don't
don't
wish
for
something
it
may
come
true.
A
So
just
a
word
of
caution,
we
know
we
know
it
happens
and-
and
it
happens
to
those
communities
that
are
currently
getting
a
sidewalk
sidewalk
clearing.
So
I
those
concludes
my
remarks.
This
is
an
ongoing
discussion.
My
last
comment
would
be,
I
can't
think
of
a
worse
time
to
roll
this
out,
because
we
have
no
money,
but
that's
that's
for
the
budget
committee
to
decide
in
working
with
transportation.
So
let's
take
all
these
motions
and
let's
start
voting
on.
A
A
A
A
C
Possible:
okay:
the
original
intent
of
the
motion
was
to
go
from
from
september
to
october
so
or
from
from
one
from
yeah
from
the
september
council
to
the
october.
I
see
so
I'm
the
december
time
frame
reflects
that.
But
I
understand
that'll
be
a
big
challenge
because
we're
already
at
the
fifth
and
that's
like
20
days,
so
I
wanted
to
believe
it
in
staff's
hands.