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Infrastructure and Environment Committee, meeting 12, March 11, 2020 - Part 2 of 2
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A
A
B
Yeah,
this
is
a
most
challenging
traffic
safety
issue
at
the
intersection
of
a
highway
that
intersects
with
a
residential
street
mayhem.
It's
you
know
I'm
his
worse
than
mayhem,
I,
wasn't
it's
worse
than
mayhem
and
I'm
sure
you
know
whatever
trying
to
drive
by
there,
but
the
Allen
Allen
Road
and
the
Eglinton.
B
A
You're
supposed
to
present
your
motion,
would
you
like
us
to
stand
on
the
item
while
you
prepare
the
motion?
Yes
on
to
the
next
one?
Okay,
the
next
item,
so
we'll
we'll
come
back
to
1211.
While
councillor
Cole
prepares
his
motion
item
1212,
we
did
have
councillor
Ainsley
that
side
here
for
over
three
hours,
so
I'm
gonna
say
that
we
continue
to
hold
this
item
to
to
give
him
a
few
more
minutes
to
get
back.
That
brings
us
to
1213
and
we
have
a
deputy
int
on
this
one
Paula
Davies.
C
C
One
of
them
is
protect
nature,
tío,
but
also
Ontario
invasive
plant
Council,
Toronto
field
naturalist
and
one
of
the
things
that's
bugged
me
over
the
years
is
seeing
too
much
salt
on
our
roads
and
sidewalks
and
places
so
I'm
here
to
support
councillor
Layton's
request
for
particularly
a
review
of
what
is
going
on
on
the
street
and
I
wanted
to
show
you
some
of
the
things
I've
found
I
care,
particularly
about
nature
and
the
impacts
of
salt
overuse
on
natural
environments.
I'm,
not
saying
we
aren't
going
to
need
to
use
it.
C
Of
course
we
need
to
be
safe,
but
there's
a
right
amount
to
apply
and
there's
dramatic
overuse
of
salt.
It
has
negative
impacts
on
plants
and
animals,
and
the
contaminated
soil
does
not
favor
native
species
of
plants
which
we
all
want
to
encourage
and
then,
when
the
ice
and
snow
melt,
they
dissolve
in
the
salty
water
and
other
pollutants,
end
up
in
our
streams
and
rivers
and
the
great
big
projects
we're
doing
to
contain
stormwater.
C
Well,
they
don't
remove
salt,
but
I'd
like
to
state
here
now
that
TTC
bus
stop
seemed
to
have
the
worst
over
salting,
followed
by
entrances
to
the
subways.
The
TTC
corporate
plan
indicates
that
they
want
to
accelerate
efforts
around
energy
and
environmental
stewardship
and
TTC
must
improve
its
salt
application
procedures.
The
problem
for
plants
is
here's
some
Cedars,
and
you
can
see
the
salt
burn
on
I'm,
going
to
just
quickly
go
through
a
number
of
pictures,
because
I
think
they
speak
better
than
just
a
voice.
C
What
we
see
here,
those
little
tight
spots
on
the
branches
are
witch's
brooms,
that's
what
happens
when
salt
is
sprayed
on
a
deciduous
tree,
and
then
here
we
have
from
a
study,
and
all
of
you
have
this.
So
you
could
look
this
up,
but
I've
documented
all
that
the
top
little
trout
was
raised
in
a
saline
environment
where
there
was
too
much
salt
in
the
water.
The
bottom
little
trout
was
raised
in
a
more
normal
environment,
so
what's
actually
going
on
out
there.
C
These
are
pictures
that
I've
taken
and
in
the
top
in
this
picture
here,
you
can
see
way
too
much
salt.
It
hasn't
been
calibrated
in
any
way
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
seen
when
you
shop
her
around
the
city,
these
plastic
containers
and
when
you
open
them
up
inside
you
see
in
this
case
a
bucket
and-
and
that
is
what
is
being
used
to
apply
the
salt,
no
calibration
whatsoever.
C
In
this
picture
we
see
a
community
center
parking
lot
and
there's
a
little
tiny
red
arrow.
That's
my
glove.
This
is
a
mound
about
a
foot
high
that
was
dropped
by
whatever
device
or
whatever
truck
was
leaving
the
salt.
Nobody
got
out
to
clean
it
up,
so
there's
a
lot
of
spillage
going
on,
and
it's
not
just
City
properties
that
this
is
where
this
is
happening.
C
This
is
a
salt
bin
at
a
story.
At
a
grocery
store
and
same
thing,
once
you
open
it,
you
see
that
inside
there's
things
that
have
no
calibration
whatsoever.
There's
no
control
over
how
much
salt
is
put
down
and
actually
I
caught
the
guy
coming
out
and
doing
the
salting,
and
if
you
notice
it's
not
even
a
lot
of
snow
there.
C
C
Maybe
someone
here
has
seen
that
I
actually
saw
that
at
the
bus
stop
at
Don,
because
I
do
stewardship,
work,
I'm,
always
concerned,
and
that's
why
I'm
here
about
the
effect
of
the
salt
in
the
water,
our
aquatic
systems
are
under
barrage
because
of
the
many
things
that
go
into
them
and
what
we
see
here
is
the
pedestrian
path
from
a
broad
view
down
to
Todmorden
mills,
and
that's
all
salt
that
you
see
there.
It
has
not
in
any
way
been
calibrated.
C
The
bottom
picture
is
actually
a
tiny
little
fish
that
actually
lives
down
in
the
Oxbow
and
how
it
survives
all
of
this
onslaught.
I,
don't
know
so
I
don't
want
to
leave
you
depressed,
so
I'm
going
to
give
you
some
solutions,
and
these
are
just
some
things
I
found
to
make.
You
know
you
decision-makers,
please
work
on
this
thing,
so
the
first
one
is
mandate.
C
C
C
Please
implement
new
liability
guidelines
because
in
New
Hampshire
they
actually
are
training
people
so
that
the
people
on
the
ground
can
actually
apply
properly.
Well,
that's
why
your
final
thought,
okay,
educate
and
communicate.
Please
read
this.
Thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
this
for
me
today.
Thank.
D
Maybe
I
might
I
say
that
miss
Davies,
given
since
I
put
this
out
on
social
media.
There
are
easily
thousands
of
people
as
obsessed
with
over-salting
as
you
and
I
and
I
think
that
that's
a
good
sign
and
hopefully,
hopefully,
as
we
move
forward
as
a
city,
we
don't
do
things
perfectly.
We
were
constantly
learning
and
hopefully
we
can
do
better.
Okay,.
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D
D
I'm,
just
looking
up
really
quickly
how
I
want
to
amend
it
and
then
pull
a
councillor
Cole,
and
here
it's
easy
yeah
you
did.
It
did
I.
So
I'd
like
to
amend
my
motion
motion.
One
motion
to
sorry
that
the
general
manager,
transportation
services
respond
to
the
previous
requests,
the
review
of
road
salt,
environmental
impacts
and
then
I'll,
just
I'll,
say
and
other
relevant
city
divisions,
the
divisions,
divisions
and
agencies
that
use
salt
for
roads.
A
So
she's
also
asked
for
that
for
writing-table,
but
we
stand
down
this
item
and
we
move
on
while
both
motions
get
finalized
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
both
items.
Are
there
any
other
speakers
on
this
item
before
we
do?
That
is
councillor
Cole's
motion
ready?
Okay,
so
then
we
can
move
to
count.
Item
1212
I
have
been
notified
that
councillor
Inslee
is
not
able
to
return.
So
we,
if
is
there
anybody
around
the
table
here
that
has
questions.
Anybody
wants
to
speak
to
that
item.
Somebody
move
receipt
of
the
item:
I'll
move
it
all.
A
H
You
you
just
heard
my
name
is
Jessica,
speaker
and
I'm
here
to
speak
to
you
on
behalf
of
a
group
called
friends
and
families
for
safe
streets.
We
are
a
group
of
people
whose
loved
ones
have
been
killed
on
our
streets
or
who
have
survived
a
serious
crash
and
very
serious
injury
on
our
streets.
We
are
strongly
in
favor
of
a
citywide
prohibition
on
right
turns
on
red,
and
we
recommend
this
or
we
commend
this
motion
as
a
first
step
towards
that
goal.
H
According
to
the
city's
statistics
for
crossing
on
a
green
light,
add
a
signalized
intersection
versus
crossing
mid-block
pedestrians
walking
across
an
intersection
when
they
have
the
right-of-way
accounted
for
37%
of
all
pedestrian
crashes,
whether
the
driver
was
turning
left
or
right
or
blue.
A
red
light.
Compare
that
to
40%
of
pedestrians,
who
are
struck
mid
block.
That
means
it's
only
three
percent
safer
to
cross
an
intersection
in
Toronto
when
you
have
the
green
light
than
it
is
to
take
your
chances
crossing
mid-block
on
a
suburban
arterial.
That
is
ludicrous.
H
That
is
completely
insane
making
sure
drivers
are
prohibited
from
turning
right
on
red
would
go
a
significant
distance
towards
fixing
that
jaw-dropping
fact.
It's
true
that
not
all
the
crashes
at
intersections
were
a
result
of
a
careless
right
turn
on
a
red,
and
some
critics
have
pointed
out
that
not
very
many
people
are
killed
by
drivers.
H
Making
careless
turns
on
red
lights,
but
that
objection
to
a
prohibition
on
right
turns
on
red
at
its
core
presupposes
that
a
few
dead
people
is
an
acceptable
toll
to
pay
for
the
imperceptible
convenience
for
one
segment
of
road
users,
who
might
save
a
few
seconds
on
their
commute.
That
system
of
values
which
prioritizes
convenience
over
human
life
is
directly
in
opposition
to
the
system
of
vision,
zero,
which
this
council
unanimously
voted
to
adopt.
H
Road
violence
inflicted
on
vulnerable
road
users
like
pedestrians
and
cyclists,
is
a
literal
human
meat
grinder.
It
is
impossible
to
comprehend
the
pain
of
losing
someone
that
you
love
randomly
and
suddenly,
through
no
fault
of
their
own,
to
the
violence
of
being
struck
by
a
driver
unless
it
happens
to
you
or
you
hear
about
it
from
someone
like
me,
and
there's
no
shortage
of
stories
of
tragedies
inflicted
in
Toronto
by
right-turning
drivers,
some
of
them
made
splashes
in
the
media,
and
you
might
remember
them.
H
Last
August,
a
woman
in
her
70s
was
crossing
at
Midland
and
Sheppard
when
she
was
struck
by
the
driver
of
a
transport
truck
that
turned
right
which
dragged
her
under
the
rear
wheels.
She
was
probably
killed
by
that
first
crash,
but
it's
a
bit
up
in
the
air
because
she
was
struck
again,
as
she
lay
on
the
ground
dying
were
already
dead
by
a
second
driver.
Both
of
those
drivers
fled.
This
crash
was
extremely
gruesome,
the
organic
matter,
the
bits
of
tissue
and
the
blood
had
to
be
hosed
off
the
road
by
the
first
responders.
H
This
woman
was
treated
like
roadkill
instead
of
a
human
being
by
two
drivers
in
a
situation
that
explicitly
set
her
up
to
be
endangered.
Jenna
Morrison
was
killed
in
2011
by
a
truck
driver,
turning
right
on
a
red
again
sucked
under
the
rear,
wheels
and
didn't
stand
a
chance.
She
was
on
her
way
to
pick
up
her
young
son
and
she
was
five
months
pregnant
at
the
time
her
husband
lost
not
only
his
wife
but
his
child
and
her
son,
who
was
already
born,
lost
not
only
his
mother
but
also
a
sibling.
H
Dalia
Chaco
was
a
grandmother
who
was
also
crushed
by
a
right-turning
truck
driver
at
a
red
light.
She
was
a
loving
mother
and
had
barely
had
a
chance
to
enjoy
her
new
phase
of
life
as
a
grandmother.
She
was
only
around
for
a
few
months
before
a
driver
on
Toronto
streets
killed
her
since
she
was
killed.
Skylar's
welcomed
a
second
child
into
his
family,
who
will
never
know
the
loving
kindness
of
his
grandmother
because
of
Toronto's
deadly
streets.
H
All
of
these
people
are
so
desperately
missed
and
all
these
families
are
shattered
and
trying
to
get
through
the
wreckage
of
their
lives.
The
followed
of
road
violence
is
not
limited
to
a
crash
or
the
subsequent
rehabilitation
or
a
funeral.
Road
violence
is
a
life
sentence,
and
these
are
the
life
sentences
that
could
be
prevented
by
an
effective
vision.
Zero
plan,
which
includes
a
prohibition
on
right,
turns
on
red.
So
we
urge
you
to
support
this
motion
and
please
also
support
it
when
it
comes
to
fruition.
Thank
you.
A
I
You
Bok
Toronto
is
a
grassroots
volunteer
advocacy
group
that
works,
improved,
walking
conditions,
pedestrian
safety
in
the
city
at
walk
trial.
We
believe
that
proactively,
using
rate
turns
on
read,
prohibitions
across
entire
city
would
save
lives,
and
this
is
a
sensible
measure
under
vision.
Zero
allowing
drivers
to
turn
right
on
a
red
light
creates
a
particularly
dangerous
environment
for
volvo
road
users,
especially
people
who
are
blind
have
a
visual
impairment.
Our
children
are
seniors
in
toronto.
I
The
most
common
type,
the
third
most
common
type
of
collision,
is
when
a
motor
vehicle
turns
right
when
a
pedestrian
was
crossing
with
the
right
away.
Intersection,
13%,
obssession
injuries
or
fatalities
were
results.
A
right
turning
vehicles
we
do
in
20,
2008
and
2012
4
right
turns,
are
ready
to
work
properly.
All
humans
involved
need
to
behave
in
a
very
particular
way,
with
no
room
for
error.
Unfortunately,
the
safety
pedestrians
who
have
the
right
way
is
compromised
by
this
practice.
Drivers
turn
right
and
pedestrians
path
while
assessing
space
available
between
cars
or
travelling
full
speed.
I
I
know
when
I'm
a
pedestrian
I
see
drivers
who
are
looking
left
at
oncoming
traffic
and
not
looking
right
at
oncoming
pedestrians.
Although
drivers
must
make
a
complete
stop
before
turning
as
mandated
by
the
HTA,
they
don't
always
do
right
turns
on
red
are
especially
problematic
for
pedestrians
are
blind
or
children's
who
are
taught
is
safe
to
cross.
Only
when
the
pedestrian
has
that
green
lights
or
walk
signal,
a
blind
person
reply
on
an
audible
signal
has
no
way
knowing
when
being
closed
about
the
cross.
I
Their
path,
a
child
may
not
understand,
need
to
double
double
check
before
the
cross.
Right
on
red
in
practice
means
the
right
way
the
pedestrians
are
supposed
to
have
is
compromised
and
a
sense
of
security
that
pedestrian
green
light
provides
is
false.
My
fellow
steering
member
dannielle
Levy
Pinto,
who
and
for
she
cannot
be
here
today.
She
is
completely
blind
and
gets
around
with
her
guide
dog.
She
always
crosses
a
delight
with
the
accessible
pedestrian
signal
she
has
experienced.
Many
instances
of
drivers
making
right
turns
suddenly
peering
her
path
and
speed
in
front
of
her.
I
One
of
the
problems
with
the
new
leading
pedestrians
intervals
signals
is
that,
while
they're
intended
to
provide
additional
safety
of
pedestrians,
laying
them
enter
the
ingested
intersection
first,
allowing
right
turns
of
red,
reduces
their
effectiveness,
for
example,
montreux,
where
right,
trans
retro
hibbott
across
the
entire
island
lane
pedestrian
signals,
far
more
effective,
New
York
and
more
recently,
Mexico
City
have
also
banned
right
turns
on
red
vision,
zero
recognized.
That
means
humans
make
mistakes,
and
this
aims
it
aims,
reduce
the
consequences
of
those
mistakes.
Vision.
I
Zero
does
not
rely
on
human
havior
to
keep
these
roads
safe.
Rather,
it
designs,
conflict
out
of
the
system
through
infrastructure
changes
and
legislation
banning
motor
vehicle
right
turns
red.
In
the
Toronto
we
reduce
opportunities
for
conflicts
between
drivers
and
pedestrians,
and
thus
prioritize
the
safety
of
farmable
road
users,
eliminating
returns
in
red
only
at
selected
locations.
It's
problematic
in
terms
of
predictability,
a
citywide
or
neighbor,
even
neighborhood,
been
right
turns
on
red,
will
eliminate
most
of
the
costs
a
crane
installing
maintaining
replacing
prohibition
signs
at
each
intersection.
I
Moreover,
too
many
signs
result
in
clearing
the
roads
with
visual
overload,
which
may
help
distract
drivers.
Attention
from
watching
out
from
dangers
on
the
road
walk.
Toronto
supports,
reducing
the
number
of
intersections
that
allow
right
turns
on
red.
However,
we
see
this
is
just
the
first
step
if
Toronto
Council
is
truly
committed
to
principles
of
vision,
zero,
and
if
it's
serious
about
following
the
example
of
pure
cities
such
as
Montreal,
New,
York
and
Mexico
City
it,
then
it
will
enact
a
citywide
rank.
Prohibition
on
right
turn,
surrett.
Thank
you.
A
J
G
J
B
J
So
if
you
don't
do
that,
that's
a
that's
a
moving
violation.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
so
if
we,
if
there
was
a
no
right
turn
on
a
red
they
would
have,
they
would
still
have
to
come
to
a
complete,
stop
and
my
correct,
and
if
they
wanted
to
break
the
law
like
they
were
the
when
that
sign,
wasn't
there.
That
would
also
be
a
moving
violation.
Correct.
J
J
J
J
J
G
J
D
So
I
don't
know
about
you.
Writing
most
people
out
there
have
been
standing
at
the
corner
waiting
to
cross
the
street
just
to
have
a
stopped
vehicle
kind
of
inched
their
way
over.
When
you
see
the
driver,
looking
you
see
them
looking
to
see
if
there's
a
car
going
the
other
way
or
if
the
car
and
the
right
hand
most
turn
lane
is
turning
and
they're
just
not
paying
attention
to.
D
What's
going
on
at
there
right
and
yes,
that's
dangerous
driving
sure,
but
if
all
we
did
was
give
out
or
if
we
didn't
make
any
bylaws
on
a
road
or
rules
of
our
road
and
just
said
well,
it's
illegal.
If
you
hit
someone
and
that's
what
we
relied
on
to
keep
people
safe
like
that
would
be
absolutely
ridiculous.
D
Absolutely
the
argument
is
is
is
almost
comical
it's
it's!
It's
so
absurd
in
the
notion
that
we
should
make
bylaws
cuz.
You
don't
have
a
cop
on
every
corner.
Why
make
Bhalla
at
all
and
like?
Why
do
we
have
any
rules
in
this
in
in
in
our
city
if,
if
there
isn't
an
individual
on
every
corner?
Yes,
enforcement
is
key
and
I
get
the
point.
D
What
I'm
proposing
isn't
to
all
of
a
sudden
take
away
some
some
mythical
right
of
drivers
to
drive
quickly
through
our
city.
What
I'm
actually
proposing
is
that
city
staff,
as
they're
reporting
back
through
vision,
zero,
examine
the
proactive
steps
and
give
us
some
idea
of
those
proactive
steps
that
are
being
taken
to
put
right
turn.
Restrictions
on
read
if
that
ends
up
being
a
blanket
ban.
I'll
probably
be
supportive,
but
for
the
moment
I'd
like
them
to
start
at
least
proactively.
D
Bringing
forward
right
turn
restrictions
at
dangerous
intersections,
because
we
know
that
people
are
getting
hurt
and
I
hope
that
this
leads
us
to
a
world.
Where
were
a
little
bit
more
concerned
with
someone
getting
dragged
under
a
vehicle
because
they
made
a
right
turn,
then
a
driver
saving
a
couple
extra
seconds
making
that
right
turn
I,
just
I
hope
that
this
leads
us
one
more
step
in
that
direction
of
changing
our
thinking
about
this
and
it's
a
staff
report.
J
I'm
gonna
support
cancer,
Layton's
recommendation
I,
you
know
what
I
see
most
of
the
time
when
you
get
to
a
intersection
and
there's
a
pedestrian
crossing
most
of
the
time
that
person
who's
creeping
up.
If
they
see
the
person
he'll
stop
immediately
because
they
know
that
that
person's
there
I
think
most
of
the
time
the
drivers
are
very
agreeable
like
they
don't
want
to.
You
know
they
see
that
pedestrians
are
important,
that
that
they
don't
want
to
conflict
with
them
and
that
they've
got
to
get
across
the
street.
J
J
I'm
gonna,
put
up
on
the
screen,
says
the
general
manager,
transportation
services
report
on
the
impact,
the
right
term,
prohibitions
and
other
changes
to
roadways
that
delay
traffic
have
kimly,
can
cumulatively
had
on
travel
times
and
delays
in
the
city.
The
general
manager
of
transportation
services
report
on
the
impact
that
travel
delays
and
increased
congestion
and
gridlock
have,
on
increased
stress
on
drivers,
aggress,
increased
aggressive
behavior
accidents
and
the
general
manager
transportation
services
report
back
on
conducting
research
as
part
of
vision,
zero
on
the
causes
of
aggressive
driver
behavior.
J
So
behind
this
eye
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
haven't
studied
and
that
we
haven't
looked
at
that
should
be
part
of
vision.
Zero.
That
and
I
would
suspect
that
we
all
want
to
lessen
lessen
the
accident
accidents
is
why
our
drivers
becoming
more
aggressive
and
driving
work
and
driving
it
responsibly
and
then
there's
a
theory
out
there,
because
of
all
the
delays
and
all
the
speed
bumps,
and
all
that
unnecessary.
Stop
signs
and
everything
that
we're
doing
that.
J
That's
causing
stress
and
drivers
and
they're
they're
more
apt
because
they
get
all
upset
and
they
they're
stuck
in
lines
and
I'll
use
an
example
that
the
deputy
city
manager
can
appreciate
if
she's
going
down
to
work
down
Leslie
Street
these
days
in
the
morning
and
she's
she
gets
in
line
there
to
turn
they've
put
a
right.
There
used
to
be
a
curvy,
there
used
to
be
emerged,
there
used
to
be
emerged,
but
now
they've,
squared
the
squared
the
intersection
and
now
well,
if
you're
going
during
the
a.m.
J
And
if
you
put
that
no
right-hand
turn
on
a
red,
it's
going
to
make
that
line
even
longer
and
the
question
is
writ
large.
If
you
do
it
writ
large.
One
of
the
questions
is:
is
that
necessary,
or
are
you
unnecessarily
delaying
traffic?
And
fundamentally,
you
know
when
people
are
in
traffic
and
in
congestion
and
sitting
behind
the
cars
for
so
long
I
wonder
what
it's
doing
to
them,
because
what
they'll
start
to
do
is
they
start
to
speed
up
I?
J
This
is
what
I
think
they
start
to
speed
up,
and
then
they
start
to
drive
more
aggressively,
and
then
you
have
what
that
example.
The
councillor
Layton
mentions,
where
they
kind
of
try
to
roll
in
to
that
intersection,
because
they're
so
frustrated
because
they
want
to
get
home
or
they
want
to
go
to
work.
A
J
Yeah,
so
if
the
report
back
is
there
and
there's
no
data,
the
third
one,
as
part
of
that
is
the
third
one,
contemplates
that
and
then
reports
back
on
whether
we
could
actually
conduct
research
too,
and
we
can
decide
whether
we
want
to
do
that.
But
I
actually
contemplated
that
idea
of
you
know.
Maybe
there
isn't
any
data
and
if
there's
not,
maybe
we
should
conduct
the
data,
because
this
should
inform
vision,
zero,
like
what
we're
doing
what
the
delays
are
like
and
what
is
the
impact
on
people
right?
That's
what
I
want
to
do.
G
J
Back
and
say
we
don't
have
any
data
on
that
or
we
can't
find
any
data.
There's
no
information
on
that,
and
then
we
could
go
and
say
you
know
what
we
have
people
that
can
do
that.
Research
and
I
know
what
we
do
like.
We
can
contract
that
information
out.
That
data
is
readily
collectible.
We
could
decide
whether
we
want
to
do
that.
Okay,.
D
Would
you
would
you
care
to
add
any
other
stressful
things
in
people's
lives
to
how
they
might
contribute
to
drivers?
Stress
like
poverty
under
pay,
work
conditions,
tighten
the
kids
the
effect
of
the
corona
virus
on
people's
driving
behavior?
What
do
you
want
us
to
add
them
all
to
that
list?
I
I
think
that
would
probably
be
that
that
would
at
least
provide
us
a
better
picture.
What
what
is
stressing
people
out
and
put
and
when
they're
behind
the
wheel
well,.
J
What
I
wanted
I
want
to
understand.
Councilor
is
how,
within
the
context
of
vision,
zero
and
all
the
ways
that
we're
slowing
down
traffic,
what's
the
effect
on
that
and-
and
you
know-
is-
we
haven't-
really
answered.
The
question
we've
answered
part
of
the
question
about
how
come
they're
more
active,
no
more
accidents
happens
and
more
people
getting
hit
like
10
10
10
years
ago,
as
opposed
to
today.
We
know
and
part
of
that
I
think
is:
people
are
crossing
mid-block,
we've
got
a
higher
seniors
population.
J
Those
are
kind
of
like
data
points
that
are
easily
identifiable
right,
but
we
haven't
really
asked
the
question.
There
are
more
questions
that
we
need
to
have.
We
haven't
asked
the
question
you
know
in
addition
to
that,
why
are
drivers
driving
like
crazy
people
now
right,
I,
don't
have
an
answer
to
that
I'd
like
to
see
if
this
is
one
of
those
reasons,
because
if
you
want
to
reduce
the
number
of
accidents
you
have
to
answer
the
question:
why
are
more
drivers
driving
like
crazy
people
so.
D
If
I
could
then
make
the
suggestion,
then
start
with
number
three:
don't
all
of
a
sudden
assume
that
it's
traffic
delays
and
vision,
zero
that
are
causing
people
stress,
I,
can
vote
for
one
and
two
I
can
vote
for
three,
but
not
one
and
two,
because
you're
you're,
presupposing
that
these
are
the
triggers
for
people's
for
people's
aggressive
driving
behavior.
Rather
than
saying,
let's
do
research
on
the
causes
of
people's
aggressive
driving
behavior
and
see
what
comes
from
it.
So
I
like
I'll,
be
supporting
three,
but
not
one
and
two.
E
A
D
B
B
J
B
B
Total
decline
in
the
number
of
tickets
issued
by
tronto
police,
the
enforcement
levels
over
the
last
seven
or
eight
years
that
we
have
data
from
you
can
see
from
700,000
moving
violation
charges
that
were
laid
back
in
2010.
Now
we've
got
200,000,
so
you
know
we
can
do
all
these
measures
above
vision,
zero.
We
can
introduce
the
prohibition
of
turning
red
on
turning
right
on
red,
but
if
there
is
an
enforcement
out
there
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
really
make
a
dent
in
improving
traffic
safety.
B
If
there
isn't
some
kind
of
stick
along
with
the
carrots,
we
are
going
to
have
an
ongoing
challenge
when
we're
not
getting
enforcement
of
our
traffic
laws-
and
these
are
you
know,
moving
violations
running,
stop
signs
distracted
driving.
You
can
see.
The
tickets
are
not
being
issued
as
they
once
were
before
so
I
mean
what's
the
impact
of
this
on
traffic
safety
and
deaths,
and
it's
a
good
point
so
and
we
really
haven't
come
to
grips
with
that
I
know.
B
I
got
into
a
bit
of
a
debate
with
police
sergeant
last
week
over
this
and
said
we
should
be
hiring
more
police
officers
than
they
would
issue
tickets,
but
anyways
I
find
this
very
much
one
of
the
root
causes
of
why
we
are
getting
lot
of
bad
behavior
and
it's
a
you
know
by
everybody
on
our
roads
because
there's
no
enforcement,
the
enforcement
has
dropped
off
dramatically
and
nobody's
talking
about
it.
So
we
can
put
up
all
the
vision,
zeroes
measures
we
want.
B
We
can
put
up
all
of
our
reduced
speed
limits
to
30,
but
who's
going
to
enforce
it
nobody's
enforcing
it.
Now
we're
gonna
hire
I.
Think
the
police
agent
warrants
wardens
I,
don't
know
where
they
are
because
they're
a
mythical
group
that
one
day
will
appear
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
those
agents
and
that's
no
fault
of
the
city.
We've
been
getting
a
bit
of
slow
response,
I'm
getting
permission
of
the
province
to
do
that,
but
they'll
help
but
I
don't
know
we're
out
getting
20
or
something.
So
we
need
enforcement
without
enforcement.
B
All
of
our
good
efforts.
These
are
part
of
what
councillor
Layton
is
doing,
but
you
know
the
deputies
talked
about
making
our
streets
safer
unless
there's
enforcement.
Luckily
we've
got
technology
and
the
other.
The
red-light
camera
technology
got
that
and
one
day
we'll
actually
have
a
comprehensive
system
of
the
speed
cameras
but
anyways,
it's
very,
very
frustrating
to
see
that
there's
no
enforcement,
like.
G
A
B
Getting
to
my
favorite
topic
of
police
enforcement,
here's
my
motion:
City
Council,
requests
that
the
Toronto
Police
Services
Board
to
increase
traffic
enforcement
in
the
area
of
the
Allen
Road
on
Eglinton
Avenue
west
from
Glen
Arden
Road
West
over
Hill
Road
to
the
Allen
Road
to
deal
with
the
unprecedent
traffic
safety
concerns
in
the
air
of
the
agreement
across
town
construction.
So
just
asking
for
enforcement
because
everybody
is
making
u-turns
they're
driving
the
wrong
way
they're
on
the
sidewalks.
It's
like
councillors,
minimum
says
it's
what
mayhem?
No
it's
worse
than
mayhem!
A
D
The
general
manager
of
transportation
services,
other
relevant
city
divisions,
agencies
and
boards
to
report
on
the
use
of
road
salts
and
the
environmental
impacts
and
report
back
before
the
end
of
the
second
quarter
of
2020.
This
was
kind
of
Frankensteined
motion
just
to
try
to
include
some
of
the
other
agencies,
agencies,
boards
and
commissions
that
were
weren't
included
in
the
original
ask
from
councillor
robinson,
who
I
should
just
give
a
shout
out
for
sort
of
starting
this
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
that's
not
not
quite
getting
there
yet.
A
On
the
amendment,
all
those
in
favor
I
was
opposed
ma'am.
It
carries
on
the
item
as
amended
all
those
in
favor.
All
those
opposed
item
carries
that
takes
us
to
item
12
15,
which
was
walked
on
this
morning.
Updating
school
pick-up
and
drop-off
zones.
Counselor
leader
Layton,
had
moved
it
onto
the
agenda
on
behalf
of
councilor
Fletcher,
we
moved
to
questions.
Does
there
any
questions
of
staff?
A
E
I
will
just
speak
to
that.
We
all
know
that
there
were
a
number
of
cuts
made
to
school
boards
and
drawing
districts
board
is
changing
its
hours
for
drop-off
and
pickup
I.
Don't
know
how
many
counselors
have
schools
that
have
drop-off
and
pickup
areas
on
the
main
streets,
but
they're
all
signed
it's
all
by
bylaw,
and
it
will
be
mayhem
if
we
don't
sort
that
out.
That
would
go
to
another
me
everywhere
that
would
go
to
the
community
councils.
E
I
was
hoping
to
be
able
to
just
send
it
to
each
community
council,
so
I
was
informed
by
the
clerk.
I
can't
has
to
come
from
here
to
each
community
council,
but
with
this
it
can
be
initiated
there,
so
councillors
can
make
sure
that
that
job
gets
done
for
their
schools
as
quickly
as
possible
for
September
start.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
tell
sir
Fletcher
anyone
else
to
speak
to
the
item.
Okay.
The
item
is
on
the
screen,
all
those
in
favor
all
those
opposed.
The
item
carries
thank
you
for
pointing
it
out
that
problem
to
us.
No
one
more
last
one
item
1216
prohibiting
snow
clearing,
it's
your
item:
yeah
prohibiting
snow
clearing
activity
within
commercial
properties,
located
100
meters,
less
from
residential
areas
between
12:00
a.m.
and
6:00
a.m.
any
questions
of
the
item.
Speakers
all
those
in
favor
the
item.
You
will
pull
it
up.