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Infrastructure and Environment Committee, meeting 11, January 9, 2020 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
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Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-gZg9et9B0
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0:07:11 - Call to order
B
A
Get
my
hearing
checked
good
morning,
everybody
and
happy
New
Year
to
everybody,
hope
everybody
had
a
restful
holiday,
welcome
to
meeting
eleven
of
the
infrastructure,
Environment
Committee,
welcome
to
members
of
the
committee
visiting
councillors,
city
staff
of
course,
and,
of
course,
members
of
the
public
for
those
in
the
room
with
us.
The
screen
at
the
back
of
the
room
provides
real-time
updates
concerning
where
we
are
in
the
agenda
what's
coming
up
next
and
you
can
follow
the
agenda
on
your
computer
tablet
or
smartphone
at
Toronto
dot
see
a
backslash
Council.
A
We
acknowledge
the
land
we
were
meeting
on
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga
of
the
credit,
the
astronaut
to
Chippewa
the
had
no,
she
the
wind-up
peoples
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations
Inuit
matey
people.
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto's
covered
by
treaty.
Thirteen
with
the
Mississauga
of
the
credit.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
in
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
act?
A
The
the
Shiva
continues
I
believe
in
Ince
tomorrow
at
33
de
lisle
Avenue
and
our
thoughts.
Our
prayers
are
with
the
last
man
family,
also
on
behalf
of
committee,
members
like
to
offer
condolences
and
prayers
to
the
Ford
family,
on
the
loss
of
mrs.
Diane,
Ford
I
believe
visitation
starts
this
evening
and
the
funerals
on
Saturday
and,
of
course,
condolences
to
councilor,
Michael,
Ford
and
sympathies
to
former
counselor
Doug
Ford
and,
of
course
the
premiere.
So
visitation
starts
this
evening
and
funeral
is
on
Saturday.
Let's
take
a
couple
of
minutes
and
run
through
the
agenda.
A
A
A
C
A
C
A
A
A
E
A
A
A
F
B
A
Motion
to
add
this
item
and
also
put
it
at
the
top
of
the
agenda,
so
we
can
hear
the
presentation
right
away.
Thank
You
mr.,
have
the
plan
yeah,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that
is
carried
two
other
items
item
19.
It's
been
circulated,
exploring
new
ideas
to
prevent
pedestrian
injuries
and
fatalities.
That's
also
a
school
group
I,
don't
think
they're
here,
yet
Bayview
Glenn
school.
A
No!
There
are
here,
okay,
great
good,
to
see
you
guys.
So
that's
item
19
I'm
wondering
whether
the
committee
would
be
amenable
to
having
this
done
right
after
the
Valley
Park
school.
So
these
these
kids
couldn't
get
back
to
school
as
well
all
right!
So
it's
a
fourth
street
well
will
vary,
vary
the
procedure
as
well
all
those
in
favor
of
making
exploring
new
ideas
to
prevent
pedestrian
injury
fatalities.
A
A
So
we're
going
to
start
we've,
we
varied
the
agenda
and
we'd
like
to
welcome
to
City
Hall
in
the
Valley
Park
middle
school
students
who
are
going
to
do
a
presentation
for
us
I'll.
Let
them
introduce
their
idea,
their
concept
and
their
and
their
product,
and
then
maybe
we'll
have
questions
afterwards.
A
G
Morning,
everyone
we
are
at
the
Valley
Park
bot
in
front
of
you,
you'll
find
a
sheet
of
paper
that
will
explain
our
project
for
our
project.
Presentation,
we'd
like
to
tell
you
about
our
Pajo
control
system
and
how
it
could
save
the
city
of
Toronto
about
1
million
dollars
per
year.
The
city
spends
about
5
million
dollars
per
year,
fixing
about
two
hundred
thousand
per
holes.
Our
system
will
provide
a
better
way
to
find
the
potholes
will
decide
which
pehoe
to
fix
and
rescheduled
the
repairs.
G
Today,
the
city
relies
on
people
calling
3-1-1
to
report
a
pothole,
a
city,
employee,
answer
the
phone
call
and
enters
a
location
and
description
into
a
computer.
This
is
costly
and
zooms.
The
people
will
actually
take
the
trouble
to
call
3-1-1.
We
propose
adding
a
small
electronic
device
to
all
police
cars
and
city
vehicles.
What
will
detect
big
potholes
and
set
an
automatically
send
a
GPS
location
and
severity
of
the
bump
to
the
city
computer
server.
This
will
be
much
more
effective
than
three
one.
One
phone
calls
and
manual
data
entries.
H
The
pothole
detecting
device
will
consist
of
a
small
computer
like
an
Arduino,
a
gyro
sensor,
a
GPS
receiver
and
a
cell
phone
transmitter.
It
would
be
about
the
size
of
a
deck
of
cards
and
would
get
power
from
the
car
battery
bumps
in
the
road
will
be
logged
with
date,
time
GPS,
location
and
bomb
severity.
At
the
end
of
each
day,
the
device
will
send
a
summary
of
the
worst
powell's
to
the
city.
G
G
City
will
have
a
set
of
potholes
to
repair.
The
city
commuter
will
be
able
to
estimate
the
travel
time
between
potholes
between
each
pothole
by
using
GPS
data.
The
computer
will
then
be
able
to
estimate
optimize
the
travel
time
between
potholes
so
that
the
most
potholes
may
be
fixed.
In
a
day.
This
automatically
created
repair
schedule
should
say
many
hours
of
supervision
time
and
increase
the
number
of
potholes
fixed
by
reducing
travel
time
and
unnecessary.
Every
day,
the
City
of
Toronto
was
an
thousands
of
bump
locations
to
the
nearest
maintenance
yard.
G
G
Our
pothole
control
system
will
benefit
the
city
by
one
automatically
collecting
the
data
instead
of
hoping
that
citizens
phone,
3-1-1
and
save
time
for
the
data
to
be
manually
entered
to
automatically
sorting
the
data
so
that
only
severe
and
frequently
encountered
potholes
are
considered
for
repair
3,
optimizing,
the
repair
scheduling
to
reduce
supervision,
time
and
travel
time
between
repair
locations.
If
these
benefit
the
city
by
20%
that
will
turn
into
1
million
dollars.
Per
year
we
developed
a
mock-up
car
with
a
pothole
detection
device
using
a
simple
Mindstorms
robot
and
a
gyro
sensor.
G
The
robot
will
trip
the
robot
travels
in
a
straight
line
for
three
meters
and
stores
the
distance,
traveled
and
gyro
sensor
data
after
collecting
data
we
import
the
data
and
that
we
employ
the
distance
and
gyro
numbers
into
Excel
spreadsheet
and
display
the
bump
data
on
a
graph.
So
this
is
the
data
after
we
import.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
a
very
interesting
idea
and
and
I'm
wondering
just
how
how
the
computer
calculates
the
severity
of
it.
Have
you
factored
in
how
fast
the
car
is
moving
when
it
hits
a
bump.
You
know
when
you're,
when
you're
driving
in
a
car
and
you're
going
really
slow,
the
bump
may
have
a
certain
level
of
severity,
but
if
you're
going
really
fast
that
may
be,
it
may
be
different
kind
of
like
speed
bumps
the
whole
purpose,
I
hope
so.
H
F
G
F
H
We
obviously
wouldn't
know
the
damaged
potholes
could
cause
because
we
don't
drive,
but
we
know
that
it's
a
big
issue
when
we
were
asked
to
consider
a
real
big
issue.
That's
happening
in
cities.
First
thing
we
thought
was
maybe
potholes,
because
the
amount
of
damage
the
amount
of
money
you
have
to
pay
for
that
damage
that
can
cause
to
your
car
is
a
lot,
and
so
we
thought
even
this
3-1-1
system
isn't
very
effective
because
you
would
get
opinions
about
the
pothole.
H
F
A
E
J
So
we
have
two
problems
right.
You
you've
thought
about
one
of
the
one
one
side
of
that
of
that
problem.
That's
where
are
the
potholes?
How
big
are
they?
How
deep
are
they
how
damaging
they
might
be?
So
how
do
we
figure
out
where
those
are
more
quickly?
The
other
side
of
the
the
problem
is
actually
having
the
resources
to
fill
them
in,
like
we
only
have
like
I,
don't
know
21
or
24
hot
boxes.
J
That's
like
these
things
that
contain
ashphalt.
So
there's
only
you
know,
21
of
these
vehicles
or
that
sort
of
you
know
when
we
do
our
blitzes,
the
maximum
you're
going
to
have
out
there
is
21
of
these
boxes
with
asphalt,
so
you
can
only
do
so
many
a
days.
So
if
you're
getting
500,000,
potholes
or
or
you
know,
a
million
potholes
I,
don't
know
what
the
number
is.
You
can
only
like
fill
a
small
like
portion
of
them,
so
we
we,
you
need
to
help
us
think
about
that
as
well.
H
So
since
we
have
limited
resources,
I
think
we
thought
it
would
be
better
if
we
would
use
resources
on
the
potholes
that
are
most
severe.
So
even
if
we're
filling
those
small
ones
that
aren't
causing
that
much
damage
to
cars
and
aren't
frequently
hit,
then
there
is
no
point
in
filling
them
and
wasting
our
resources.
So
maybe
we
should
try
to
use
our
resources
for
the
most
severe
ones,
the
most
important
ones
that
we
should
take
care
of.
It's.
A
You
councillor
pers
any
other
questions
for
the
presenters
on
behalf
of
the
committee.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
down
to
City
Hall
for
your
presentation
for
your
creativity
and
ingenuity
you're
to
be
commended.
It's
obviously
a
reflection
of
the
school
you
go
to
the
leadership
at
the
school
and,
of
course,
the
parents
that
you
have.
So
congratulations
on
a
wonderful
idea.
I
think
we're
gonna.
A
Have
our
city
staff
take
a
closer
look
at
it
and
we
really
appreciate
you
coming
down
we'd
be
happy
to
do
a
group
group
photo
with
committee
members
and
your
team
if
you're
willing-
and
we
could
do
that
right
now.
Yeah
so
I
need
a
motion
to
receive
the
item.
Deputy
mayor
min
and
walk
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that
is
carried,
and
in
just
a
couple
of
minutes
we
will
go
to
the
pause
presentation.
Another
school
brew.
E
A
E
A
E
C
E
A
So,
okay,
so
we
just
have
to
move
a
motion
to
have
the
confidential
attachment
remain
as
confidential.
So
that's
on
the
screen,
I'd
be
happy
to
move
that
and
then,
of
course,
you'll
move.
You'll
move
the
staff
recommendations
on
the
public's,
probably
component
of
the
report.
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
pose
carry.
A
A
Staff
recommendation
to
move
did
anyone
else
want
to
hold
that
item
or
we're
good
to
go?
Okay
number
13
s
been
moved.
It
does
go
up
to
council
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that
is
carried
great.
How
is
our
group
doing
all
right?
Well,
let
you
introduce
yourselves,
but
it's
great,
to
see
you
guys
again.
I
know.
You've
come
to
City
Hall
once
before,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
to
committee
and
good
luck
with
your
presentation.
Thank.
H
I
H
So
if
you
look
at
the
two
boards,
that's
where
most
of
our
visuals
are.
You
can
see
that
some
statistics
are
that
2.8
million
people
live
in
Toronto
and
around
3
million
people
move
around
Toronto
every
day.
69%
of
pedestrian
and
vehicle
accidents
happen
at
intersections
and
of
the
69%
60%
are
left
turns
and
40%
are
right
turns
in
Toronto.
There
are
currently
twenty
six
thousand
and
three
hundred
intersections
and
45%
of
these
pedestrian
vehicle
accidents
happen
when
people
are
on
foot.
E
As
of
December
20th
2019,
the
Toronto
Star
quoted
police
chief
Saunders
about
the
38
people
dying
in
car
accidents.
He
said
people
and
enforcement
are
not
going
to
be
the
cure
for
this.
It's
using
its
utilizing
the
technology,
it's
the
education
and
awareness
from
all
factors
of
people
being
in
a
big
city.
This
is
when
our
project
comes
in.
H
So
our
solution
is
the
pause,
the
pedestrian
avoidance
warning
system.
Basically,
the
pause
is
a
sensor
system
that
has
ultrasonic
sensors
embedded
in
Bullards
at
the
corners
of
each
intersections.
The
ultrasonic
sensors
would
send
out
waves
to
detect
pedestrians,
and
once
they
pick
up
the
pedestrians,
it
would
send
a
signal
to
a
new
warning
light
which
would
flash
and
alert
the
drivers.
I
I
So
there's
the
input
which
is
the
ultrasonic
sensor
and
it
is
sending
ultrasonic
waves
out
so
once
it
senses
that
there
is
a
person
there,
it
will
send
a
signal
to
the
Arduino
or
the
brains
of
the
traffic
light,
and
then
it
will
send
a
signal
to
the
orange
light
which
will
be
added
on
the
bottom
of
the
traffic
light,
and
this
will
flash
with
a
pedestrian
in
it
and,
at
the
same
time,
we're
still
going
to
be
running
through
the
cycle
of
the
red,
yellow
and
green
colors
of
a
regular
traffic
light.
A.
E
First
sensor
placement
we've
embed
ultrasonic
sensors
into
Bullards
and
place
them
at
the
curbs
of
intersections.
This
has
a
multi-purpose
Bullards
can
prevent
cars
from
slipping
onto
curves
and
hitting
pedestrians
as
they
stand
in
place
and
protect
them.
They
also
hold
the
ultrasonic
sensors
with
sense
pedestrians
crossing.
I
These
are
two
scenarios
that
I'm
going
to
take
you
through
on
the
top
there.
As
you
can
see,
there
are
no
pedestrians,
so
the
traffic
light
would
just
work
like
a
normal
traffic
light
as
if
there
was
no
addition
to
it
and
the
bottom
strip.
There
are
pedestrians,
so
since
we're
mainly
focusing
on
left
and
right
turns,
the
pedestrians
should
not
be
crossing
when
there
is
a
red
light.
So
there's
no
need
for
us
to
put
the
pedestrian
sign
when
the
traffic
is
showing
red.
I
H
So
here's
a
scenario
as
you
can
see,
the
green
car
in
the
middle
of
the
intersection
is
taking
a
left-hand
turn
and
the
pedestrian
in
the
bottom
right
corner
is
walking
across.
So
when
the
pedestrian
is
turning
when
the
pedestrian
is
crossing,
it
would
send
this
a
signal
to
the
traffic
controller
and
the
pause
light
would
flash,
which
would
warn
the
driver
that
there
is
a
pedestrian
crossing.
So
they
know
that
and
also
be
aware
of
the
oncoming
traffic
coming
towards
them.
H
H
So
while
we
were
doing
this,
we
decided
to
make
a
small
analysis
of
costs
to
be
considered
when
there's
an
accident,
so
in
total
it's
a
collision
cost
and
then
it's
split
into
the
internal
cost
and
the
external
cost.
Some
of
the
internal
costs
include
property
damage,
Emergency,
Response
health
service,
legal
travel,
delay
in
pollution,
short
term
productivity
in
under
external
loss
of
productivity,
pain
and
suffering
lost,
quality
of
life
in
value
of
statistical
life.
E
I
So,
according
to
the
city,
it
costs
about
80
thousand
to
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
to
install
a
new
traffic
system
at
an
intersection.
So
if
we
were
to
take
the
most
expensive
alternative,
which
would
be
a
hundred
sixty
thousand
and
since
we
wanted
to
make
it
a
ten
intersection
pilot
project
that
would
total
up
to
about
1.6
million
dollars
which,
as
Josh
said
before,
is
less
than
the
2.4
million-
that
a
pedestrian
would
cost.
H
H
A
Have
a
couple
so
the
signalized
intersection
works
in
its
traditional
way.
The
way
the
way
would
normally
and
your
system
is
an
extra
cautionary,
illuminated
notification
to
an
oncoming
vehicle
that
pedestrians
will
cross
at
that
section
when
when
they
have
the
pictograph
and
the
green
light
to
do
so.
Yes,
all
right,
so
it's
it's
an
early
warning
system
to
drivers
entering
a
busy
section
intersection
that
there
will
be
people
crossing
and
not
to
try
and
run
a
strong
orange
light.
A
H
It
would
be
as
they're
about
to
turn
because
they
might
because,
as
they're
turning
in
the
intersection,
they're,
probably
focusing
on
the
traffic,
that's
coming
towards
them,
they're,
not
looking,
and
when
they
see
that
the
lights
going
from
green
from
green
to
yellow
they're
thinking.
Oh
the
lights,
about
to
turn
red.
So
they
they
usually
would
accellerate.
And
then,
by
that
time,
it's
too
late.
H
So
as
the
pedestrian
would
cross,
it
was
the
bullard
would
send
out
ultrasonic
waves
and
it
would
pick
up
the
pedestrian
and
that
would
send
a
signal
to
the
traffic
controller
system
and
which
would
send
the
signal
to
the
new
light
and
it
would
start
flashing.
So
when
they're
looking
at
the
traffic,
they
also
see
the
light,
that's
flashing.
So
they
would
be
reminded
that
there's
a
pedestrian
crossing
and.
D
H
We
know
that
in
London
in
England
they
have
a
system-
that's
a
bit
similar
to
this,
but
instead
of
a
light,
it
sends
a
loud
irritating
noise
which
we
had
actually
thought
of
making
a
noise
instead.
But
we
figured
that
the
light
was
more
effective,
because
people
who
are
deaf
can
drive
to
drive.
You
need
to
be
able
to
see,
but
not
to
hear
and
also
the
weather
conditions.
H
I
D
A
Any
other
questions
for
the
presenters,
no
so
I
do
have
well.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
very
much
for
for
coming
to
City
Hall.
As
you
know,
we
met
I
guess
some
a
month
in
a
bit
ago
and
I
was
very
impressed
and
still
impressed.
It's
obviously
a
great
reflection
of
the
school.
You
go
to
the
leadership
at
the
school
and,
of
course,
the
the
parents
who
make
you
do
your
homework.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
I'm
going
to
be
moving
emotion
at
this
committee
to
have
staff.
A
A
A
K
Glad
to
have
her
on
my
team
and
beside
her
is
Connie
Pinto
she's,
a
program
standards
officer
again
one
of
our
resident
experts
in
areas
of
data
analysis
and
allowing
us
to
make
tangible
sort
of
decisions
and
direction
out
of
that
data.
So
we're
here
today
to
present
the
findings
of
the
tree.
Canopy
study
that
we
just
recently
could
completed
the
staff
will
get
into
the
details.
But
what
I
wanted
to
say
was
if
you
reach
I,
encourage
everybody
to
read
the
full
study.
K
It's
great
reading,
it's
one
of
those
things
you
can't
put
down
once
you
start
reading
it
and
if
anybody's
going
on
holidays,
I
suggested
to
take
it
with
you
and
you
can
share
that
document.
I
absolutely
think
that
it's
a
fantastic
document.
Now,
when
you
read
the
document,
you'll
see
there's
ups
and
downs,
like
any
investment,
there's
going
to
be
peaks
and
valleys,
but
we're
looking
at
long-term
gains
and
that's
what
we're
seeing
is
long-term
gains.
You're
gonna
see
some
peaks.
K
You're
gonna
see
some
negatives,
but
if
you
can
see
those
negatives
and
you
can
project
those
negatives
in
in
every
case,
we've
done
so
when
we
go
through
the
study.
You'll
see,
there's
some
declines
in
areas,
but
they
are
strategic
and
they're
expected.
Knowing
that
they're
going
to
come
up
is
allows
us
to
in
advance
plan
for
them.
So
as
staff
go
through
the
details,
we'll
be
ready
for
questions.
But
again,
the
document
overall
is
a
direct
reflection
of
this
council's
commitment
to
urban
forestry
and
climate
change.
K
We
are
on
a
positive
trend,
which
is
a
great
news.
I
mean
people
are
going
to
take
the
negatives
they're
gonna
identify
them
as
where
we
need
to
work
on,
but
that's
exactly
why
we
do
these
studies,
so
we
know
exactly
where
to
put
our
resources,
it's
a
strategic
application
of
resources
with
respect
to
budget,
and
so
as
I
leave
it
at
that
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Kim.
B
Good
morning,
Toronto's
first
canopy
study
was
conducted
in
2008
and
the
findings
were
documented
in
every
tree
counts,
which
was
revised
in
2013.
That
study
informed
and
directed
our
strategic
forest
management
plan,
which
is
a
10-year
plan
approved
by
City
Council
in
2013.
It
sets
out
six
strategic
goals,
one
of
which
is
to
increase
canopy
cover
to
40
percent.
Among
other
recommendations,
it
directed
urban
forestry
to
conduct
tree
canopy
assessments
every
10
years.
This
is
an
industry
best
practice
to
assess,
monitor
and
evaluate
urban
forest
growth,
health
and
composition.
B
Toronto's
urban
forest
is
a
critical
component
of
the
city's
green
infrastructure
and
it
supports
the
quality
of
life
that
we
depend
on.
In
a
growing
and
intensifying
city
we
have
been
able
to
improve.
We
have
been
able
to
improve
the
tools
we
use
to
evaluate
and
measure
the
benefits
of
trees
and
forests.
In
a
municipal
setting,
we
can
quantify
the
ecological
services
that
Toronto's
urban
forest
provides,
such
as
energy
savings.
Carbon
sequestration
avoided
stormwater,
runoff
and
estimate
total
annual
benefits.
Toronto's
urban
forests
provided
55
million
in
annual
benefits.
B
L
The
2018
tree
canopy
study
used
industry
the
best
practices
to
characterize
the
current
state
of
the
urban
for
using
2018
leaf
on
satellite
imagery.
Canopy
cover
was
assessed
using
two
established
methodologies.
First,
a
manual
random
point,
sampling
of
10,000
points
across
the
city
was
performed.
Second,
an
automated
continuous
classification
of
land
cover
was
performed.
This
method
used
spectral,
signature
and
lidar
to
distinguish
vegetation.
The
fully
automated
land
cover
data
set
was
created
by
the
city's
geospatial
competency
center.
L
This
image
shows
tree
covered
distribution
across
Toronto
using
the
automated
continuous
classification
data,
in
addition
to
providing
an
estimate
of
the
current
canopy
cover.
The
study
provides
a
broad
range
of
findings
related
to
changes
in
the
distribution,
character
and
condition
of
the
urban
forest.
Since
the
first
canopy
assessment
in
2008.
L
Toronto's
canopy
cover
has
increased
despite
a
number
of
challenges
experienced
over
the
last
10
years.
This
includes
impacts
of
emerald
ash,
borer,
the
2013
ice
storm,
climate
change
and
city
building.
The
canopy
grew
from
a
range
of
twenty
six
point:
six
to
twenty
eight
percent
in
2008
to
twenty-eight
point
four
to
thirty
one
percent
in
2018.
L
The
estimate
is
described
as
a
range
based
on
results
of
the
two
established
methodologies.
Using
both
methodologies
confirms
that
the
trend
is
positive.
The
tree
population
has
also
increased.
There
are
an
estimated
11.5
million
trees
in
our
urban
forests,
an
increase
of
1.3
million
trees
since
2008
this
growth.
Excuse
me,
this
growth
represents
natural
regeneration,
an
active
tree
planting
on
both
public
and
private
land.
L
The
City
of
Toronto
has
planted
approximately
a
million
trees
and
shrubs
on
public
land
over
the
last
10
years,
an
average
of
a
hundred
thousand
a
year
street
trees
are
a
major
contributor
to
the
city's
urban
forests
in
densely
populated
areas
of
the
city.
Street
trees
represent
the
most
visible
part
of
the
urban
forest
new
and
2018.
We
use
the
city
street
tree
inventory,
data
and
eye
tree
eco
software
to
determine
structural
and
ecosystem
service
values.
There
has
been
a
significant
increase
in
street
tree
condition
in
2008.
L
49
percent
of
street
trees
were
rated
in
good
or
excellent
condition.
In
2018
that
number
increased
by
25%
to
74
percent
of
trees
in
rated
in
good
or
excellent
condition.
The
street
tree
analysis
determined
that
street
trees
contribute
approximately
1.3
million
dollars
each
year
in
ecosystem
services
like
carbon
sequestration,
pollution
removal
and
avoided
runoff.
The
size
distribution
of
Toronto
Street
trees
has
also
improved
size,
class'
distribution
or
the
proportion
of
street
trees
across
the
population
is
one
indicator
of
urban
forest
sustainability.
L
L
To
better
understand
the
challenges
of
the
urban
forest
field,
data
was
collected
from
407
permanent
sample
plots.
The
same
plots
used
in
2008.
These
plots
are
located
across
all
land
uses
from
parks
and
ravines
to
single-family
residential
Lots.
This
field
data
was
then
analyzed
using
AI
tree
eco
software
to
provide
a
charactery
characterization
of
the
urban
forest
as
a
whole,
including
species
breakdown,
health
distribution
and
value.
L
L
The
distribution
of
trees
by
size
improved
with
more
larger
growing
trees
and
more
young
trees
in
the
population.
It
is
important
for
the
sustainability
of
the
urban
forest
to
maintain
a
consistent
proportion
of
young
trees
in
the
population
in
order
to
maximize
urban
forest
benefits
into
the
future.
L
Changes
in
canopy
growth
and
impervious
cover
over
the
last
10
years
reflect
the
reality
of
Toronto's
growth,
while
protecting
and
enhancing
the
natural
environment,
pervious,
meaning
water
that
soaks
into
the
surface
and
impervious
meaning
water
that
runs
off
the
surface.
Impervious
land
cover
has
increased
by
1.4
percent.
Over
ten
years,
the
top
three
land
uses
with
increasing
impervious
cover,
our
single-family
residential
utility
and
transportation
and
commercial
lands.
The
increase
in
impervious
cover
illustrates
the
need
to
balance
City
objectives.
B
Toronto
urban
forests
is
a
critical
component
of
the
city's
green
infrastructure
and
it
is
a
living
and
growing
ecosystem.
That
means
that
the
urban
forest
is
always
changing
growing
maturing
and
evolving.
Today
we
present
the
initial
findings
and
high-level
trends.
From
this
recently
completed
study
urban
forestry
staff
will
now
conduct
a
full
analysis
of
the
data
and
results.
We
will
use
the
tree
canopy
study
to
inform
ongoing
urban
forestry
programs
and
strategic
resource
allocation.
It
will
also
inform
the
upcoming
urban
forestry
service
plan
anticipated
for
q3
2020.
B
The
tree
canopy
study
findings,
support
and
align
with
other
city
initiatives
such
as
the
ravine
strategy
implementation
report
reporting
an
executive
committee
later
this
month.
The
council
approved
by
a
diversity
strategy
and
the
cities
work
on
climate
change
and
resiliency
Toronto
ranks
is
one
of
the
most
livable
cities
in
the
world.
According
to
the
global
liveability
index,
urban
forestry
programs
support
Toronto's
quality
of
life
and
the
ecological,
social
and
health
benefits
of
this
valuable
resource.
The
tree
canopy
findings
are
encouraging
and
reflect
Council
approved
investments
and
our
efforts
to
sustain
and
expand
Toronto's
urban
forests.
M
You
mr.
chair,
firstly,
I
was
very
happy
to
see
in
the
report
that
you're
using
the
terminology,
adaptive
management
and
that
you
are
embracing
that
so
in
that
lens,
as
you
go
forward
through
the
next
decade
of
data
collection
like
how
do
you
incorporate
new
technologies
and
and
things
like
drones
and
remote
sensing
like?
How
are
you
incorporating
that
into
your
work?.
K
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
obviously,
we
work
with
a
huge
IT
department
we're
currently
we
have
the
investment
of
working
on
enterprise
work
order
management
which
will
help
us
do
better
data
management.
Drones
I
mean
those
are
great
ideas,
as
the
this
type
of
technology
comes
forward,
we'll
we'll
look
into
it,
but
again
it's
subject
to
council.
I
may
be
given
us
direction
to
sort
of
we're.
Looking
to
that
area
of
sort
of
utilizing
that
type
of
expertise,
resources
and
funding
is,
is
critical
and
type
of
investing
in
that.
K
So
again
we
it's
a
strategic
application
again
of
our
current
resources
in
budget
Council
gives
us
budget.
We
apply
that
budget
based
on
the
fact
based
decisions
based
on
these
studies.
I,
love
technology
and
I
love
business
intelligence,
but
we
do
have
a
division
that
sort
of
gives
us
that
direction.
M
Okay,
great
cuz,
yeah
I,
think
overall
point
sampling
is
is
good,
but
the
ability
to
be
able
to
at
some
point
get
some
complete
remote
sensing
would
be
interesting.
It
would
be
interesting
to
look
at
the
trade-off
in
the
cost
between
those
two
but
I.
Leave
that
to
your
expertise.
K
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
we
have
it.
We
have
a
target
of
2057
in
2012.
Council
asked
us
to
extend
the
time
frames
due
to
the
budget
constraints,
at
which
point
we
extended
the
time
frames
to
2050
7.
Now,
if
you
keep
in
mind
growing
a
forest
to
meet
a
40-person
canopy
cover
is
a
long-term
investment.
We
were
to
achieve
funding
by
2020
full
funding
by
2023.
That
funding
should
allow
us,
through
overtime,
to
meet
those
targets
by
2050.
K
K
M
K
In
direct
conversation
with
transform
tio
with
transportation,
we
have
working
groups
that
all
of
those
things
are
connected.
I
mean
give
you
an
example:
I
mean
just
in
terms
of
parking
pads.
Transportation
does
not
authorize
parking
pads
that
are
not
pervious,
so
they,
you
know
we're
working
together,
Complete
Streets,
it's
all
in
the
in
report.
This
there's
great
dialog
between
the
two
divisions
and.
K
A
great
question,
and
through
this
council
we've
been
able
to
work
through
the
SDF
a
to
provide
grants
to
plant
on
private
lands,
as
you
can
see
through
the
report,
it
used
to
be
that
there
were
sixty
percent
of
the
available
planting
place
was
on
private
lands,
and
only
forty
percent
on
do
I
get
that
right.
Now,
forty
percent
on
on
city
lines,
we've
been
exceeding
our
planting
targets
on
public
lands.
So
now
we've
got
there's
more
there's
less
space
on
city
lands
and
again
more
space
on
private
lands.
K
M
Sorry
in
my
last
question,
although
my
time
wasn't
reset
but
I'm
sure
I
didn't
take
15
minutes,
I
think
it
started
at
12.
What
what
do
we
have
for
helping
with
maintenance
of
private
trees?
Because
we
see
this
time
and
again
it's
it's.
It's
it's
extremely
expensive.
If
a
tree
is
damaged
to
cut
it
down
or
to
maintain
it-
and
we
continually
see
this
through
the
exceptions
that
people
are
asking
for
to
remove
trees,
for
example,
because
they
find
the
maintenance
has
become
very
cumbersome.
M
What
are
we
doing
to
help
with
maintenance
of
trees
on
private
property,
because
the
reason
I'll
give
you
the
scenario
if
I
were
to
cut
down
a
tree?
I
cried
when
I
had
to
cut
down
my
ash
tree
it
was
it
cost
over
two
thousand
dollars
in
cricos.
The
cost
I
cried
because
it
was
my
favorite
train.
Why
I
bought
my
house,
but
you
know
my
husband
would
be
very
hesitant
to
plant
another
large
tree
that
will
cost
us
that
amount
of
money
he's.
He
would
push
to
replant
a
small
shrub
for
example.
M
N
We
have
not,
you
know,
put
forward
any.
You
know
significant
private
tree
maintenance
programs
through
any
funds,
all
of
our
sort
of
budget
and
funds
have
very
specifically
been
directed
either
towards
the
maintenance
of
public
trees
or
towards
the
encouragement
of
how
we
can
have
more
trees
planted
on
private
lands,
but
not
on
the
maintenance
of
private
trees.
Although.
K
I'm
a
dad
we
did
do
we
have
a
big
educational
piece
on
the
web
on
our
internet
site
that
identifies
how
to
maintain
trees
in
a
prop.
So
if
you
prune
small,
you
save
big,
there's
a
huge
educational
piece
that
people
can
tap
into
on
how
to
limit
the
expenses
of
large
growing
trees.
So,
essentially,
if
you
follow
the
guidelines-
and
you
start
pruning
these
trees
as
they're
young,
you
will
save
huge
amounts
of
money
and
the
trees
will
reach
more
tile.
I
reach
maturity.
A
A
K
Right
now
we
just
82
percent,
that's
the
survival
rate.
Now
the
effort
for
what
we
did
a
small
tree.
We
have
a
small
tree
maintenance
program
that
was
implemented
seven
to
ten
years
ago.
That
has
really
improved
the
the
maintenance
are
the
survival
rate
of
our
trees.
We
do
have
problems
in
some
areas,
but
again
we're
about
82
percent
survival
rate,
so.
F
A
Have
a
couple
of
questions
before
we
go
to
staff
and
and
your
your
team
visited
my
office,
and
this
is
a
wonderful
report.
I'm
not
sure
whether
I
would
take
it
on
vacation,
though,
and
read
it
by
the
beach.
So
are
we
doing
enough
in
the
planning
application
approval
process
to
require
developments
to
to
plant
as
part
of
their
planting
program
and
their
green
program?
A
Are
we
doing
enough
or
should
should
we
be
asking
for
more
when
some
of
those
applications
come
by
and
I
realize
it's
easier
to
ask
for
more
in
the
inner
suburbs
or
they
may?
The
footprint
of
the
property
may
be
a
little
wider
bigger
than
downtown,
but
in
your
view,
should
we
be
asking
for
more
through.
K
K
People
can
achieve
developers
can
achieve
a
forty
percent
green
standard
on
that
development
site,
there's
rebates
and
that
forty
percent,
your
green
standard,
means
if
they
can
achieve
a
forty
percent
cover
on
their
sites
long-term
their
work
through
City,
Planning,
so
I
think
we
have
the
ultimate
in
in
strategies
on
how
to
achieve
that.
It's
just
sometimes
there's
conflicting
direction.
By
planting
on
hardscapes,
we
have
underground
furniture
that
utilities
that
do
not
allow
it
it's
difficult
for
a
Oda.
K
You
can't
plant
on
the
sidewalk
because
you
need
to
meet
certain
standards,
so
we
sort
of
start
at
the
highest
level,
and
then
we
have
to
work
ourselves
back
to
to
achieve
where
we
can
so
I.
Don't
think
we
need
more.
We
just
need
and
I
think
as
time
goes
on.
Actually
the
collation
between
the
visions
has
become
outstanding
and
great.
In
my
point
of
view,
I.
A
When
it
comes
to
tree
tree
replacement,
the
numbers
were
looking
at
it
was.
It
was
mentioned
in
passing
deputy
mayor
Amanda
Wong
when,
when
when
trees
die,
do
we
do
we
respond
to
inquiries
or
do
we
do
we
replant
them,
and
is
that
location
counted
twice
in
our
numbers
or
how?
How
was
that
done
if
you've
got
an
18%
through.
K
You
mr.
chair,
the
way
it
works.
We
have
a
replanting
program
essentially
what
a
concrete
contract
out
99%
of
our
plant
team.
We
outsource
that
those
trees
are
under
warranty
for
two
years.
We
don't
own
them
if
they
die
within
that
two-year
period,
because
the
seed
stock
or
the
seed
stores
was
from
outside
of
its
zone
or
there
was
a
problem
with
from
the
nursery
or
there
was
a
problem
with
the
soil
type.
We
do
not
pay
for
those
trees,
we
don't.
We
don't
take
ownership.
K
So
there's
where
you're
gonna
see
some
die
back
it's
after
the
two-year
period.
We
then
assumed
the
trees
that
are
living
and
we
we.
We
then
take
mint
and
care
of
those,
and
on
year
three
we
provide
a
small
sort
of
maintenance
program
to
them.
We
stratify
prune.
We
mulch
we
fertilize,
so
we
ensure
survival.
So
again,
the
misconception
is
that
the
trees
that
are
sort
of
failing
these
young
trees
that
that's
the
forestry
department,
it's
all
the
obligation
of
the
contractor
and
it's
part
of
the
contract.
A
Okay
tree
removal
is
always
contentious,
a
community
council
and
then-
and
it
goes
to
City,
Hall
and
I-
posed
this
question
to
your
team
when
they
came
to
visit,
but
I
think
it's
worthy
of
asking
it
publicly.
We
usually
refuse
these
these
true
tree
removal
applications.
Unless
it's
a
positive
staff
report
and
the
way
you
usually
adopt
these
staff
recommendations,
but
conditions
with
those
remove
will
come
with
the
planting
of
four
or
five
new
trees
on
the
property.
Are
we
are
we
forsaking
opportunity
with
that?
With
that
policy?
K
Mr.
chair,
if
I
understand
your
question,
we
did
policy.
The
guidelines
are
adequate.
If
we,
if
council,
approves
the
removal,
that's
five
replacement
trees
if
they
can't
plant
those
five
trees
on
that
property.
We
take
cash
in
lieu
that
funding
goes
back
into
the
program
planting
somewhere
else
in
the
city
we
are
have
difficult.
K
We've
had
difficulty
with
resources
and
funding
to
achieve
the
to
understand
if
compliance
is
actually
being
completed
through
the
AG
report,
it
made
some
recommendations
and
through
the
2020
budget
request,
we
have
identified
some
enhanced
services
to
allow
for
staff
to
go
out
and
inspect
those
sites
actually
see
if
trees
have
been
planted.
Okay,.
A
D
D
How
do
we
condense
this,
so
we
can
share
this
with
our
constituents
in
Canadian
Tire
English,
so
they
could
understand
and
pick
up
the
nuances
very
quickly
how
can
maybe
through
City,
through
the
recycling
calendar
or
other?
How
can
we
get
a
copy
of
this
or
how
could
we,
as
councillors,
perhaps
get
a
a
post
for
Instagram
or
for
Facebook
or
something
so
we
can
share
some
of
the
highlights
here
easily.
Thank.
B
You
and
through
the
chair,
we
did
prepare
a
canna
PTO
document
which
was
included
on
the
agenda
item,
which
is
a
public
friendly
executive
summary
of
that
very
large
technical
document.
We
have
also
launched
our
social
media
campaign
currently
on
our
Facebook
and
Twitter,
which
is
Facebook,
is
nature
in
the
city.
Twitter
is
at
teo
trees.
D
B
K
K
So,
city
yard,
right
we
outsource
right,
Lanting,
the
purchase
and
planting
those
trees
are
primarily
they're
under
warranty
for
two
years.
If
they
fail
it's
the
cost
and
obligation
of
the
vendor
to
replace
those
trees,
we
will
only
assume
responsible
responsibility
of
the
those
trees.
Well,
after
a
two
year,
the
two-year
period
is
expired.
Look.
G
Because
I
I've
had
issues
in
my
ward,
where
we
planted
a
tree
on
city
property
on
front
yard
and
they
it's
died
and
we've
contacted
city
staff
and
basically
nothing's
been
done.
We
haven't
replanted,
a
tree,
nothing's
been
done,
and
so
these
trees
just
died
and
and
to
just
let
there
and
and
nothing
is
how
is
happening.
So
that's
a
real
wish.
You
saw
what
is
the
percentage
on
that
so.
K
Through
you,
mr.
chair
I,
I
mean
again,
we
have
11
point
1
million
trees
in
the
city,
there's
a
number
of
site-specific
that
that
can
look
at,
and
certainly
there
are
some
things
that
are
extenuating
circumstances.
Some
we're
dealing
with
a
vendor
who
hasn't
been
able
to
inspect
it.
I
mean
I'm,
I'm,
sort
of
giving
you
plausible
answers.
I
don't
know
the
site,
but
if
you
want
to
afterwards
give
me
some
specifics,
I
can't
actually
get.
G
K
Will
never
do
you,
mr.
chair.
We
cannot
take
it's
right
in
the
contract.
We
we
hold
back
payment
from
the
vendor
and
we've
had
we've
had
stuff
where
we've
had
taken
vendors
to
a
2-quart.
Again,
it's
it's
like
any
other
contract.
If
we
take,
if
we
actually
lay
one
finger
on
that
tree,
then
they
would
say
you've
what
we
take
on
ownership
and
they
can
blame
us
for
the
for
the
failure
of
the
tree.
These
are
the
some
of
the
logistics.
We
have
some
pilots
where
we're
planting
trees
as
well.
K
We
just
don't
have
the
resources,
it's
cost-effective
that
overall
I
would.
The
program
is
very
successful.
There
are
areas
and
I'm
glad
to
look
gladly
look
into
those
the
specific
sites
to
look
at
some
positive
solutions.
We're
not
perfect.
Sometimes
things
get
mr.
the
through
the
cracks,
but
we
are
working
on
a
better
enterprise
work
order
management
system
that
will
allow
us
to
keep
better
data.
So
again,
I
gladly
look
at
some
of
those
site-specific.
Okay,.
K
You,
mr.
chair,
we
have
a
dedicated
staff.
Member
I,
have
a
working
team,
I'm
working
very
closely
with
cluster
B
on
our
approach
right.
We
have
a
meeting
on
Monday
so
again
with
Metrolinx
there's
full
agreements
in
place.
Metrolinx
is
responsible
to
replace
those
trees,
they're
responsible
as
the
same
application.
That's
applied
to
any
development
in
the
city,
they're
held
to
the
same
standard,
and
we
we
have
agreements,
so
the
trees
will
be
replaced.
F
A
F
K
F
K
F
Cuz
they
they
died.
Maybe
the
second
question.
My
second
question
is
the:
let's
talk
about
the
accountability
in
terms
of
the
ones,
the
contracts
that
we
have
so
the
warranties
for
two
years.
Does
that
mean
we
send
someone
out
like
after,
like
eighteen
months,
to
actually
do
an
inventory
of
the
trees
that
have
died,
because
you
would
think
that
if
the
warranties
gonna
end
that
we
would
go
out
and
say
these
ones
have
died,
do
we
do
that
through.
K
K
F
So
and
then
my
final
question
I
think
that
I
can
think
of
right.
Now
is
the
rate
of
the
trees
that
don't
make
it
is
18%
after
two
years.
Is
that
rate
higher
on
right-of-ways
than
it
is
on,
like
we
put
them
other
than
right-of-ways,
and
so
is
the
one
would
assume
that
the
the
number
of
trees
that
died
would
be
higher
on
rights-of-ways?
Is
that
fair
to
say
mr.
K
Chair
I
want
to
clarify
the
18%
mortality
is
after
two
years
yeah
when
we
own
them
and
yes,
areas,
that
of
like
large
right-of-way,
like
large
expressways,
a
lot
of
salt.
These
are
these
are
areas
that
have
a
higher
mortality.
We've
done
just
on
a
species
diversity
plan
where
we
can
plant
trees
that
are
more
resilient
to
these
type
of
areas,
and
so
that's
part
of
our
program
that
we
just
implement.
You
know.
F
K
You,
mr.
chair,
yes,
we
have
a
small
tree
maintenance
program
that
adding
a
third
and
believes
seventh
year
these
trees
receive
and
it's
through
industry
best
practices.
They
receive
the
initial
maintenance.
Again,
that's
under
the
the
the
premises
that
when
you
prune
and
maintain
small,
you
save
big,
so
we're
actually
pruning
investing
in
this
asset
at
a
young
age
and
it
it
costs
less
to
maintain
as
it
grows.
A
O
O
Not
a
good
kill
of
a
hard
freeze,
so
I
think
we're
probably
in
a
set
of
issues
still
that
we
have
to
be
really
really
at
on
top
of,
rather
than
being
relaxed
about
it
and
with
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
In
terms
of
the
degree
of
contracting
out
I'm
wondering
since
I've
seen,
sometimes
some
of
the
tree
service
companies
come
in
from
Bolton.
Are
those
greenhouse
gas
emissions
actually
factored
into
our
accounts
or
not?
O
If
we
had
a
more
stable
climate
that
things
went
down
and
stayed
down,
that'd
be
good,
we
don't
the
salt
pollution
I'm
glad
we
mentioned
that
because
the
the
salt
does
blow
around
and
it
does
get
sprayed
around.
It
is
one
of
these
contaminants
that
the
trees
in
urban
settings
do
have
a
lot
of
ambient
pollution
and
sometimes
really
concentrated
pollution
to
deal
with.
This
is
an
example
of
an
old
part
of
the
Rosedale
Valley
once
upon
a
time.
I,
don't
think
the
air
quality
allows
that
degree
of
diversity
and
native
plants.
O
Now,
I
don't
think
the
pine
trees
are
necessarily
able
to
grow
in
the
city
anymore,
so
I
hope
that
we're
focusing
on
the
quality
of
trees
in
this
report
and
looking
forward
not
just
the
quantity.
There
are
junk
trees
like
Norway,
maples,
Manitoba
maples
tree
of
heaven.
They
count
as
create
treat
recover,
but
they
aren't
necessarily
good
trees.
A
further
point
sometimes
I
see
in
the
parks.
This
is
a
really
crude
sketch.
O
Things
out
and
the
water
comes
down
and
rots
out
the
trunk
as
well,
and
the
bark
so
I'm
wondering
why
we
don't
actually
cap
off
that
wound,
with
a
sheet
of
metal
or
some
some
plastic
or
something
I
think
this
would,
after
a
year
or
so
I
think
that
would
really
help
preserve
the
the
trunks
of
trees
in
in
in
some
settings
over
the
long
longer
term,
and
that
would
be
a
good
investment
as
well.
Overall
again,
thank
you
for
this
good
work
very.
P
We've
we've
got
news:
we
got
news
to
bring
that's
good
stuff
good
morning.
I'm
sue
Dexter
board,
member
of
Harvard
Village
residents,
Association
an
area
bounded
by
college,
Bloor,
Spadina
and
Bathurst
an
area
your
technical
report
says
suffered
the
second
worst
canopy
loss
in
the
City
of
Toronto
over
10
years.
This
does
not
surprise
us
13
years
ago
concerned
that
our
urban
forest
was
under
pressure.
We
did
our
first
tree
inventory
with
support
of
the
University
of
Toronto
forestry,
students
and
volunteers.
P
This
counted
and
described
conditions
for
our
front
yard
and
boulevard
city
trees,
as
well
as
privately
owned
backyard,
trees
and
adventures
some
species
that
found
their
way
into
our
lanes.
A
10-year
follow-up
study
was
done
three
years
ago,
despite
being
one
of
the
most
ecologically
motivated
neighborhoods
in
town,
it
showed
we
are
losing
our
urban
forests
at
an
alarming
rate.
That
inventory
shows
we
lost
thirteen
hundred
and
seventy
one
trees
over
30
percent
of
our
trees.
P
In
the
last
ten
years,
our
canopy
covers
sits
at
twenty
one
point:
nine
percent,
the
city
data
suggests
this
represents
a
loss
of
twenty
two
point.
Three
percent:
the
canopy
loss,
reflects
the
fact
that
our
large
street
trees,
Norway's
Silver's
horse-chestnuts,
even
Manitoba
maples,
are
dying.
The
declining
stem
count
of
trees
suggests
they
may
not
be
being
replaced
even
more.
Concerning
the
loss
of
trees
is
shared
equally
between
private
land
and
city-owned
land,
700,
trees,
dead
or
removed
are
on
city
property
700
in
private
backyards.
P
It's
difficult
to
make
any
precise
comment
on
the
city
report
and
attachments.
However,
it
would
be
helpful
to
know
where
and
under
what
circumstances
the
gains
in
canopy
are
occurring
because
they're
not
happening
with
us.
The
report
espouses
equitable
distribution,
but
it
is
certainly
not
happening
in
the
five
named
canopy
lost
neighborhoods
ourselves,
plater
estates,
Kennedy
Park,
deferent,
Grove,
Forest,
Hill
North.
There
are
also
concerns
in
the
annex
in
Rosedale
in
Palmerston
in
Long
Branch.
P
It
is
of
ecological
concern
when
dead
spots
are
allowed
to
take
over
areas
of
the
city,
wildlife,
birds,
bees,
butterflies,
our
taste
of
nature
needs
contiguous,
green.
The
city
report
says
it
does
not
understand
why
these
losses
are
occurring.
We
need
those
answers,
because
the
solutions
may
signal
the
need
for
policy
changes.
P
P
Losses
will
be
unnecessary
but
hard
to
avoid
from
our
data
and
from
the
city's
pavement
is
a
problem.
We
also
know
enforcement
is
a
problem.
The
zoning
bylaw
is
a
problem.
Getting
owners
to
abide
by
committee
of
adjustment
decisions
that
protect
trees
is
a
problem.
Construction
is
a
problem.
James
Steinberg's
embedded
report
again
based
on
Harvard
village
data
link,
tree
loss
to
building
permits,
and
then
there
are
the
scofflaws.
P
Stopping
a
guy
with
a
saw
and
no
permit
to
cut
on
a
Saturday
morning
is
the
Donnybrook
of
problems
once
the
tree
is
gone,
you're
looking
at
25
years
to
replace
it
if
you're
lucky,
but
also
consider
this.
If
half
the
missing
trees
in
Harvard
village
are
on
city
property,
there
should
be
nothing
to
prevent
the
city
from
beginning
an
aggressive
planting
program
with
the
active
cooperation
of
the
host
community.
This
action
alone
would
inspire
local
landowners
to
do
the
same,
and
there
is
more
U
of
T
forestry.
P
Students
have
just
completed
recommendations
for
a
Harvard
village
pilot
project
to
take
advantage
of
our
existing
data
and
experience
and
create
a
replicable
plan
for
other
low-rise
communities
to
reach
the
goal
of
40%
in
20
years
we
would
have
to
plant
4,800
trees.
This
is
well
beyond
our
local
reach.
P
The
sad
story
is
no
matter
what
we
are
doing,
no
matter
how
hard
we
are
working,
we
are
losing
the
race.
Only
together
can
we
fix
this.
Thank
you.
So
Margaret
Margaret
has
had
her
feet
on
the
ground
on
her
hands
and
the
tape
measures
of
all
the
tree
projects
in
Harvard
village
for
the
last
20
years,
so
she's
available
for
questions
as.
Q
The
eager
residents
of
the
neighborhood
to
represent
the
eager
residents
of
the
neighborhood
we
do
have
the
we
have
at
least
50
people,
50
residents
who
were
trained
in
using
the
neighborhood
inventory
and
who
know
how
to
look
for
trees
and
and
the
the
signs
that
they're
in
danger,
who
also
know
how
to
look
after
them.
But
we
need
to
work
with
agencies
from
the
city
we've
managed
to
plant
and
we're
proud
of
it
over
250
trees.
In
our
tree
planting
initiatives
to
follow
up
the
inventories.
That's
a
tiny
number
compared
to
what's
needed.
A
C
P
There'll
be
some
patterns,
I
think
it's
clear
from
the
city
city
report,
the
technical
report
we're
all
talking
the
same
stuff,
we're
talking
pavement.
We're
do
you
know:
we've
identified
some
some
triggers,
which
would
be
common,
but
you
have
different.
Grove
is
a
city
park.
Why
is
it
on
the
list
unless
it's
the
different
Doran
Grove
neighborhood,
it's
hard
to
tell
from
the
from
the
from
the
representation
on
Table
nine
exactly
what
areas
people
are
talking
about,
but
we're
we're
called
University
I
think
we
were
within
the
university
catchment,
certainly
plater
Estates.
P
This
would
all
this
this
would
likely
tie
to
building
permits.
It
might
tie
to
multiple
use,
I,
don't
know,
although
we
do
get,
we
do
get
renters
coming
and
taking
trees
for
their
for
the
absentee
owners.
We've
had
experience
of
that
people
are
willing
to
do
stuff
they're
there
I
think
everybody
is
engaged
in
this
morning.
One
councillor
Pasternak
was
on
the
news.
I
thought
good
for
you
guys
we're
doing
transform
tea.
P
Oh
we're
involved
with
those
guys
because
because
and
trees
is
part
of
that
trying
to
design
programs,
so
we
can
slide
them
into
the
neighborhoods.
People
are
willing
to
be
committed
to
to
help
out
on
this
stuff,
and
so
what
we
need
is
is
to
find
some
framework
and
I
would
love
to
know
what
the
common
themes
are.
What
are
the
problems
we
should
be
addressing,
and
should
we
be
doing
it
legislatively
or
should
we
doing
it
culturally
or
is
it
an
educational
issue?
P
D
Yes,
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
help.
You
asked
a
question
about:
what's:
what's
causing
it,
one
of
the
iron
off
you're,
aware
of
one
of
the
things
that
we
found
in
North
York
Community
Council
was.
There
was
a
de
facto
approach
by
planning
whereby,
when
an
application
came
before
planning
to
remove
a
city-owned
tree
for
a
driveway
that,
if
planning,
would
approve
the
removal
of
the
tree
and
the
building
of
the
driveway
of
the
second
bill,
the
second
home,
usually
you
know
it's
a
severed
lot.
One
now's
two.
D
We
found
out
that
urban
forestry
would
not
comment
that
on
the
adverse
effects
of
the
remove
of
the
tree,
they
would
always
give
way
to
the
planning
departments
decision
to
essentially
remove
the
tree
yep.
So
this
was
the
famous
landmark
saving
of
the
tree
at
116,
Briar
Hill
mmm-hmm,
if
you're
familiar
with
that,
so
I
would
just
maybe
well.
P
There
are
loopholes
there
are
loopholes
downtown
as
well
where,
where,
if,
if
there
was
a
permit,
if
there
was
a
request
for
a
permit
to
remove
or
injure
it
would
be
it
could
it
wouldn't
almost
invariably
going
through
the
regular
council
process,
be
turned
down
in
the
case
of
committee
of
adjustment
applications
its
left
over
to
the
side
and
forestry?
So
it's
never
captured
by
the
main
city
process
and-
and
we
think
that's,
we
think,
that's
a
real
loophole
and
it's
it's
been
frustrating
for
us.
P
We
also
can
get
decisions
by
committee
of
adjustment
where
they
say
conditional
on
protecting
X
tree,
and
the
next
thing
we
know
is
the
trees
gone
because
the
guys
have
come
in
on
a
Thursday
morning
with
with
their
trucks
and
some
some
trees
gone.
So
there's
a
whole
lot
of
incidental
tree
loss
and
damage
that
that
we
should
be
looking
at
whether
if
the
intention
is
to
protect
the
forest,
then
we
have
to
make
sure
that
our
our
city
processes
are
are
catching
the
errant
files,
if
that,
if
that
makes
the
exceptional
files,
yes.
D
And
certainly
that's
something
where
we
should
be
looking
and
I
guess:
you're
also
recommending
that
perhaps
we
need
a
strategy
to
deal
with
the
neighbor
where
there's
been
significant
reduction,
tree
canopy
so
and
I.
Maybe
the
good
news
is
that
the
tree
canopy
and
the
majority
of
the
city
is
doing
well,
but
in
the
other
hand
we
need
a
strategy
to
deal
with
those
neighborhoods
which
are
suffering
the
canopy
loss.
Well,.
P
P
Think
I
think
we've
got
to
give
a
push
on
it's
the
same
framework
as
as
transform
teal.
You
have
a
you,
have
a
forward
horizon
and
a
desire
and
a
commitment
and
the
problem
is,
you
have
to
then
incrementally
design,
how
you're
getting
there
and
we're
falling
off
the
rails
and-
and
it's
not
because
we're
we're
word.
People
who
are
against
I
mean
we're
we're
ready
to
go,
but
we
need
direction
and
help.
P
P
If
we
talk
to
all
the
other
people
in
the
in
this
list,
platers
state
staff,
with
we
can
collectively
design
things
same
thing
with
reducing
greenhouse
gases,
let's
get
together
and
and
and
plan
and
and
and
reason
our
way
through
these
things,
because
they
are
collective
problems.
This
isn't
just
us
little
harbour
village,
but.
A
A
P
R
My
name
is
Katherine
burka
and
I've
been
involved
with
our
street
tree
canopy
and
ravines
working
as
a
volunteer
with
various
groups
for
the
past
six
years.
However,
today
I
come
with
my
colleague,
Joan
York,
quite
independently,
as
we
did
not
have
time
to
confer
with
our
colleagues
and
forming
this
deputation.
R
R
On
page
14
of
the
canopy
Toronto
report,
it
states
that
the
Norway
maple
outcompetes
native
species
and
comes
to
dominate
the
ecosystem
on
page
7
of
the
tree
canopy
study
it
states
that
invasive
plant
species
constitute
a
serious
threat
to
the
future
quality
and
resilience
of
urban
forests,
particularly
in
the
natural
areas
and
on
page
26.
The
report
talks
to
extreme
soil
erosion
caused
by
the
Norway
maple.
As
we
know,
the
most
important
goal
for
a
canopy
from
a
forestry
perspective
is
a
mixed
stand
or
a
biodiverse
native
urban
forest.
R
It's
just
like
diversification
with
investments.
We
can't
put
all
our
eggs
in
one
basket,
which
in
this
case
is
the
Norway
maple.
If
the
Norway
maple
continue
to
naturally
regenerate,
we
face
an
aggressive
monoculture
forest
which
not
only
outcompetes
the
native
species
but
puts
the
entire
forest
at
risk
if
it
becomes
prey
to
any
number
of
potential
pests.
The
Asian
longhorn
beetle
was
identified
in
this
report
as
one
such
pests.
The
Norway
maple
fungus,
which
hit
us
very
hard
this
summer.
The
Norway
maples
was
another
one
in
speaking
to
an
environment
lawyer
about
this
problem.
R
The
other
day
she
recommended
obtaining
your
guidance,
our
counselors,
in
how
best
to
deal
with
this.
Could
we
get
a
possible
exemption
from
the
natural
features
protection
by
law
to
remove
young
Norway
maples
before
they
grow
too
big
to
deal
with?
Perhaps
we
can
develop
a
separate
protocol
that
allows
the
removal
of
saplings
below
a
certain
DBH.
R
R
R
This
would
amount
to
about
forty
two
thousand
five
hundred
trees
per
year.
If
we
gave
them
three
more
boxes
allowing
a
four
year
rotation
and
that's
about
how
long
it
takes
to
transplant
a
tree,
we
could
grow
one
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
trees,
just
with
our
schools
and
school
children
alone,
we're
not
just
talking
about
growing
trees.
Here,
though,
we're
talking
about
growing
future
stewards,
these
stewards
then
go
home.
They
talk
to
their
parents
who
own
or
work
in
businesses
or
they're
otherwise
involved
in
their
communities
residents
associations
in
your
awards.
R
E
R
R
We
do
need
from
you
a
committed
individual
from
urban
forestry,
an
interested
councillor
and
possible
assistance
with
funding
schools
need
to
build
a
box.
The
box
lasts
for
25
years.
We
have
free
labor,
educating
children,
their
families,
building
awareness,
growing
communities
and
increasing
the
tree
canopy,
all
as
side
benefits.
R
D
Yeah,
the
norwegians,
we
are
being
taken
over
by
the
Norwegians
there's,
no
doubt
about
that
and
I
guess
the
real,
the
challenges
that
as
we
see
in
the
report,
it
is
a
significant
part
of
our
tree
canopy.
So
it
looks
great,
it
looks
green
and
they
grow,
but
in
the
other
hand,
they're
destroying
our
native
species
and
destroying
our
soil.
So
the
dilemma
is:
what
do
we
do?
So
what
are
suggestions
you
have
that
we
do
to
combat
the
Norwegian
invasion
here.
Well,.
R
As
I
mentioned
before,
and
we
depute
it
before
this
committee
and
earlier
thinking
with
September
and
biodiversity
strategy,
we're
thinking
about
removing
the
young
Norway
maples
in
my
own
yard,
which
is
very
small,
I
get
about
a
hundred
seedlings
a
year,
it's
illegal
to
pull
them
out.
I
do
so
I
know
it's
illegal.
You
can
penalize
me,
but
nevertheless,
it's
the
only
way
that
we
can
really
combat
this
before
they
get
too
big
and
they
cause
erosion
problems
and
they
out-compete
our
canopy.
D
Yes,
and
so
therefore
I
guess
you
know
when
we
have
the
most
abundant
species
in
the
report
here
in
all,
but
two
war
over
25
Ward's,
the
most
abundant
species
of
tree
in
our
city,
is
a
an
invasive
species,
and
so
everybody
thinks
well,
the
city's
beautiful,
green
canopy
is
great.
Meanwhile,
it's
an
invasive
species.
That's
taken
over
the
city,
so
therefore
you're
saying
one
thing
we
could
do
is
possibly
allow
the
removal
of
these
saplings.
D
R
Of
our
program
in
growing
trees
is
to
educate
the
children
about
the
Norway
maples
and
they
go
home
and
I've
heard
people
speaking
in
the
park.
Our
kids
are
growing,
trees
and
I
say
oh
and
they
start
talking
about
Norway
maples
children
have
been
used
to
stop
to
start
ParticipACTION
in
the
70s.
If
you
recall,
to
adopt
highways
back
in
the
70s
I
believe
that
started
as
well.
There
used
in
the
UK
and
in
Switzerland
for
non-smoking
programs
for
their
parents.
Children
are
a
very
effective
way
at
educating
parents
in
the
community.
R
D
R
That's
a
very
good
question,
so
we're
working
with
forestry
right
now
in
developing
a
list
of
a
short
list
of
trees
that
are
native.
We
started
with
the
oak
with
our
sugar
maples
and
also
with
bitter
nut
Hickory,
as
our
first
pilot
for
the
nine
schools
that
we
have
enrolled
in
our
program
and
we
will
be
adding
trees
accordingly,
but
we'd
like
to
work
with
city
staff
in
determining
what
those
trees
are.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
C
Council
Leighton.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
and
we're
asking
questions
on
both
reports
right.
Yes,
the
items
are
combined
I'm
on
the
canopy
report.
Okay,
can
we
just
that
last
deput
ins
point
about
what
we're
doing
about
Norway,
maple
and
kind
of
the
growth
of
that
species
as
the
dominant
canopy
species?
Can
you
just
give
us
an
idea
of
what's
going
on
and
what
we're
doing
I'm.
N
Just
gonna
start
and
ask
Jason
to
carry
on
so.
As
many
are
aware,
we
do
have
a
very
active
program
currently
around
Norway
maple,
and
the
report
itself
indicates
that
the
actual
population
of
Norway
maples
in
the
city
is
going
down
not
up.
We
don't
plant
Norway
maples
anymore,
and
there
is
a
proactive
program
around
managing
the
Norway
maples
that
we
that
we
have,
as
the
deputy,
was
indicating
around
the
list
of
native
species.
N
Currently
our
lists
are
planting
list
which
is
on.
The
website
includes
a
number
of
very
acceptable
native
species
that
we
are
trying
to
work
into
the
biodiversity
of
the
urban
forest
to
try
and
counteract
some
of
the
impacts
of
the
Norway
maple
I.
Think
the
issue,
as
the
deputies
have
indicated
are
all
true
insofar
as
the
percentage
of
of
Norway
maples
in
the
city.
C
N
Given
the
level
of
development
and
growth,
that's
going
on
in
the
city
right
now,
I
should
say,
and
as
Jason
and
staff
have
have
outlined,
that
the
city's
tree
policies
around
replanting,
you
know
when
trees
come
down
because
of
an
increase
in
the
impervious
surfaces
are
quite,
are
quite
active
and
and
and
and
quite
strong.
So
we
are
trying
to
counteract
by
through
the
planting
program
that
we
have,
but.
C
N
Are
larger
issues
around
planning
and,
and
you
know
the
use
of
surface
areas
in
general,
we
do
try,
as
Jason
indicated,
where
the
impervious
services
are
being
and
and
through
the
Complete
Streets
campaign.
We
are
trying
to
increase
the
number
of
street
crews
that
we
have
to
try
and
account
arac
that
that
balance
for
sure
and
I
think
the
report
indicates
a
huge
increase
in
the
health
of
street
trees
in
the
number
of
street
trees,
which
is
helping
in
the
overall
sort
of
canopy
approach,
is.
C
N
There
is
you
know
through
the
chair,
Jason's
isn't
here:
there
are
a
lot
of
cost
sharing
agreements,
certainly
with
transportation,
as
well
as
with
some
of
the
developments
that
come
along.
It's
never
a
response
from
any
one
single
division.
It's
certainly
something
that
crosses
a
number
of
different
sort
of
policies
and
divisions
around
how
we
move
forward
and.
C
K
So
through
you,
mr.
chair,
it's
important
to
note
that
we
haven't
increased
our
response
time.
Well,
we
haven't
seen
a
greater
compliance.
Remember
the
reports
really
specific.
Only
15
percent
of
those
calls
actually
lead
to
a
contravention
and
that's
what
we've
been
able
to
speed
up
our
time.
We're
reprioritizing
we've
got
better
3-1-1
information
a
lot
of
times.
It's
misinformation,
people
hear
a
chainsaw,
they
see
a
truck.
They
don't
know
that
there's
actually
been
there
in
compliance
and
don't
have
the
data
we
have
to
send
a
crew
out
there,
so
we've
increased
it
significantly.
C
N
So
through
the
chair
and
as
Kim
noted
in
her
presentation,
we
do
have
a
lot
of
information
up
on
our
website
to
try
and
help
in
a
number
of
different
communication
tools
that
we
are
working
with
with
the
community
with
residents
with
developers
and
we're
always
willing
to
have
another
look
at
those
to
see.
If
there's
any
additional
information
or
a
better
way
of
distributing
it
and
making
people
aware
of
some
of
those
issues.
Okay,.
D
K
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
that's
actually
a
strategic
plan.
Our
urban
force
would
put
forward
with
it's
a
strategic
net.
It's
urban
forestry
plan.
It
was
approved
through
Council
in
2013,
so
we
actually
have
a
program
where
we're
moderately
removing
the
in
vases,
both
in
ravines
and
on
streets
and
replacing
with
more
diverse
species.
But
again
it's
a
moderate
approach
because,
as
you'll
see
in
the
report,
we
see
a
decline
in
some
of
the
structural
value.
It's
the
leaf
area.
Norway
maple,
has
a
great
big
leaf.
It
holds
a
lot
of
carbon.
K
D
N
D
And
to
get
off
the
Norway
maple
for
a
minute,
the
the
item
I
referred
to
earlier
about
the
famous
tree
at
116,
Briar
Hill
in
North
York,
where
we
found
out
that
the
there
was
a
real
sort
of
loophole
there,
where,
if
Planning
approved
the
severance
of
a
lot
and
the
creation
of
two
driveways.
If
there
was
a
city
tree
there
and
Planning
said
they
gave
approval,
it
was
urban
forest
trees.
There
was
no
specific
direction
whereby
yeren
forestry
had
the
ability
to
comment
in
defense
of
the
tree
remaining.
N
The
speaker,
you
know
these
are
some
of
these
instances.
There
are
a
number
of
different
bylaws
and
and
legislative
pieces
which
can,
in
some
cases-
and
this
is
an
extreme
example
of
it-
lead
to
conflicting
opinions
and
directions
on
on
what
the
sort
of
right
thing
to
do
is
around
the
issue
of
a
tree
protection
we're.
N
You
know
actively
in
discussions
with
city,
legal
and
planning
about
how
to
streamline
some
of
those
processes
so
that
the
potential
for
conflict,
as
in
this
case
there
was-
is
reduced
and-
and
it's
a
little
bit
more
clear
around
how
we
can
move
forward.
Don't
have
an
answer
for
you
today,
but
it
is
certainly
something
that
we're
looking
at,
because
there
are
some.
You
know
very
sort
of
complex
legal
and
bylaw
issues
that
we
need
to
work
through
various
layers
of
authorities.
Okay,.
A
S
Also,
so
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
prove
to
provide
our
perspective
for
the
findings
of
the
2018
tree
canopy
study.
Overall,
we
were
pleased
to
see
that
the
tree
canopy
has
increased
by
1.8%
across
the
city
and
that
the
number
of
trees
has
increased
to
11
and
a
half
million.
We
believe
very
strongly
in
the
importance
of
planting
long-lived
native
species
and
the
Long
Branch
Neighborhood
Association.
It's
members
look
forward
to
continuing
to
plant
more
trees
on
private
property
in
2020,
with
our
goal
of
close
to
another
thousand
trees.
S
This
year,
which
is
what
we
did
last
year,
not
surprising
to
us,
but
still
very
disappointing,
is
to
see
that
Long
Branch
is
one
of
the
neighborhoods
that
lost
tree
canopy,
1.9
percent
and
even
more
so
that
the
loss
of
the
total
leaf
area
and
the
corresponding
reduction
in
the
value
of
our
green
infrastructure,
11.5
percent,
in
spite
of
our
efforts
in
2007
Long
Branch,
was
recorded
as
having
a
26.5%
tree
canopy.
Now
our
neighborhoods
tree
canopy
is
down
to
15%.
S
That's
a
42
percent
decrease
recent
findings
from
their
from
the
capstone
project,
one
of
the
master
of
forest
conservation
students
at
the
University
of
Toronto
looked
at
the
impact
of
residential
and
intensification
on
urban
forests
in
Long
Branch.
The
full
report
will
be
available
shortly,
but
the
key
finding
was
that
there,
the
new,
undersized
Lots
were
created.
The
canopy
loss
was
50s
up,
fifties
5.7%
and
on
the
adjacent
properties
to
these
undersized
Lots
was
24%.
S
So
not
only
are
we
losing
trees
on
the
properties
that
are
severed,
but
the
neighbors
are
losing
their
own
private
trees.
I
have
heard
from
developers
and
builders
that,
since
they're
removing
trees
that
will
replace
them.
We
shouldn't,
but
we
should
not
fool
ourselves
into
believing
they're
planting
a
sapling
to
replace
a
much
healthy,
mature
tree
even
comes
close
to
actually
replacing
it.
S
S
Some
recommendations:
we
would
urge
this
committee
to
consider
as
follows.
Mechanisms
and
incentives
need
to
be
put
in
place
so
that
development
proposals
in
single
and
multi
residential
zones
put
the
preservation
of
healthy,
mature
trees
and
plant
Obul
space
as
a
priority.
As
of
right
development.
Footprints
in
single
and
multi
residential
zones
should
no
longer
be
allowed
and
be
permitted
to
remove
healthy,
mature,
protected
trees.
We
should
lower
the
DBH
requirement
for
what
is
size
of
a
protected
tree
on
private
property
and
consider
extending
the
protection
to
trees
that
are
between
20
and
30
centimetres.
S
When
an
application
is
made
to
injure
a
protective
tree,
the
applicant
should
be
required
to
post
a
bond
post
a
significant
bond
to
ensure
the
tree
survives.
The
injury
and
the
struction
planting
new
trees
today
is
critically
important
for
future
generations
and
something
that
must
continue,
but
it
will
take
decades
for
those
trees
to
grow
and
event
and
benefits
our
communities
and
the
environment.
Therefore,
it
is
important
that
we
equally
focus
on
retaining
every
single,
healthy,
existing
tree.
S
A
M
Chair
I
have
a
motion.
The
first
is
to
ask
that
parks,
forestry,
rec
report
back
in
third
quarter
when
you're
reporting
back
on
the
forestry
plan
and
potential
to
increase
tree
planting
on
private
land
and
potential
programs
to
assist
with
maintenance
of
trees
on
private
land.
The
second
part
is
looking
at
alignment
with
transform
tÃo.
M
Another
spruce
that
I
know
is
going
to
get
that
big
and
cost
me
$3,000
to
cut
down
I'd,
be
rather
plant
a
Japanese
maple
or
something
that
I
know.
I
can
maintain
and
afford.
So
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
very
large
trees
and
what
happens
to
them
when
they're
reaching
full
maturity
and
in
particular
how
we
can
help
seniors,
because
I
have
many
seniors
that
come
in
with
these
beautiful
trees
that
they're
having
difficulty
maintain.
M
So
there
must
be
room
for
improvement
there
and
I
leave
it
to
you
to
give
some
thought
to
that,
and
maybe
there
is
nothing
we
can
do,
but
even
if
it's
just
informing
people,
so
they
understand
how
they
can
maintain
better.
That
might
be
helpful
on
the
second
point
about
transform,
teo
it
transform
geo
is
also
reporting
back
later
on
this
year
and
so
I
think
there's
important
conversations
that
have
to
be
made
between
the
two.
M
If
we
want
to
be
Net
Zero
that
can
also
include
incorporating
the
carbon
that
is
fixed
through
urban
forestry
and
through
trees
and
I
think
we
need
to
start
to
look
at
aligning
those
to
carbon
but
carbon
budgets.
So
I'm
hopeful
that
in
q3,
as
you
report
back
and
transform
to
you
report
back,
we
can
get
a
better
picture
on
how
those
two
aligned
urban
forestry
is
now
using
that
terminology
of
adaptive
management
and
embracing
that
that
was
something
that
we
amended
to
transform.
M
C
Lady,
yes,
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
two
motions
as
well
one
or
the
first
one.
The
City
Council
requests
the
director
urban
forestry
parks,
forestry
and
Recreation.
For
sorry,
that's
that's
incorrect!
Then
director
Oh,
No,
divisional,
title
sorry,
correct
parks,
forestry
and
recreation,
prepare,
prepare
and
implement
area
specific
action
plans
to
enhance
the
tree
canopy
for
neighborhoods
that
showed
significant
loss
of
tree
canopy.
As
outlined
on
page
60
of
attachment
2
to
the
report,
December
18
2019
from
the
general
manager,
parks,
forestry
and
Recreation.
You
can
the
second
yeah.
C
You
got
one
yep,
which
has
to
do
with
the
enforcement
report
that
the
infrastructure,
Environment
Committee,
requests
the
director
of
in
forestry
parks,
forestry
and
Recreation
to
report
back
on
strategies
and
resources,
sorry
to
get
to
50%
of
additional
inspections
completed
within
24
hours.
First
off,
congratulations
to
the
team
in
urban
forestry
parks,
forestry
and
recreation.
This
is
a
phenomenal
report
and
it
gives
an
incredible
amount
of
detail
and
demonstrates
our
level
of
understanding
of
our
tree.
Canopy
is
quite
strong.
C
The
the
there
there
are
some
things
that
are
concerning
I
think
it
highlights
and
has
nothing
to
do
with
your
your,
your
your
ability
and
your
commitment,
but
just
something
that
that
I
think
is
a
a
window
into
what
what
issues
we're
gonna
have
to
get
over
in
order
to
address
the
issue
of
40%
coverage
of
the
canopy
one
is
the
the
rather
distressing
outlook
of
the
age
profile
of
our
trees
in
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
It's
the
exact
opposite
of
our
of
our
population
and
and
that
I
think
it's.
C
It's
highlighted
really
well
in
the
report
that
we
need
to
protect
those
older
trees
and
to
help
to
help
trees
as
they
progress
through
life
because
of
their
value
when
they
become
larger
and
just
how
critical.
That
is
the
other.
That's
that's
really
concerning
has
to
do
with
the
neighborhoods,
and
this
is
why
I
put
the
motion
forward
on
this
is
the
eight
neighborhoods
that
are
showing
such
a
significant
loss
and
I
know,
there's
probably
there's
probably
25
different
reasons,
and
they
they
might
not
all
exist
in
each
one,
but
I
think
we're
doing.
C
Some
of
those
communities
are
really
a
strong
disservice
by
not
focusing
enough
on
finding
solutions
within
those
communities
and
a
good
example
is
the
Harbor
Village,
like
you,
had
a
community
that
ten
years
ago
went
out
and
did
an
indicator
on
toe
to
do
an
independent
tree
analysis.
You'd
think
this
was
a
community
where
you'd
actually
see
strong
gains
because
you've
got
not
only
have
they
done.
This
independent
of
the
city's
work
they've
done
a
bulk
purchase
of
solar
panels,
they've
done
a
bulk
purchase
of
a
fever
for
deep
energy
retrofits
in
the
past.
C
This
is
a
community
that's
committed
to
going
green
and
yet
they're,
seeing
these
levels
of
loss
and
when
I
sat
down
with
some
folks
from
forestry
went
over
the
data
of
the
trees
we
knew
were
gone
as
a
city.
It
was
enormous
ly
different
than
what
they
had
seen
in
the
progress
of
their
report
and
that's
very
distressing,
and
that's
why
I
hope
we
can
put
a
little
bit
of
attention
on
on
that
issue.
C
The
other,
because
I'm
running
out
of
time
here
is
just
that
I
I'm,
not
sure
and
I
I
think
the
progress
that
we've
made
in
the
80
thing,
86%
reduction
in
the
times
for
enforcement,
is
amazing,
like
that
is
incredible.
I
hope
we
can
do
better
because
at
this
point,
we're
getting
30%
in
the
first
24
hours.
I
drew
just
I.
C
Think
it's
it's
not
too
much
to
expect
that
we
could
do
a
little
bit
better
in
that
regard,
and
just
finally
on
the
impervious
surfaces,
I,
don't
have
a
emotion
in
this
regard,
but
it's
incredibly
complex
how
we
deal
with
this
at
a
city
on
actually
on
the
ground.
You
know
that
MLS
take
care
of
a
line
about
halfway
up
the
front
of
people's
yards
and
the
City
of
Toronto
takes
care
of
the
the
Transportation
Department
takes
care
of
everything
in
front
of
that
line
to
the
in
the
city,
right-of-way
and
then
the
backyards.
C
It
seems
to
be
nobody's
business
right
now
about
how
much
is
being
maintained
as
impervious
surfaces.
That's
a
problem
and
it's
not
on
any
particular
division.
I
think
it's
it's
overall.
We
have
not
figured
out
a
way
to
to
manage
this
issue
of
impervious
services,
but
it's
going
to
become
a
more
and
more
critical
issue
as
the
severity
of
storms,
increase
and
and
and
managing
stormwater
continues
to
become
such
as
such
a
top
of
mine
issue
for
residents.
So
I
hope
it's
something
that
we
can
find
a
solution
around
in
this
term
of
council.
I.
C
A
C
I
just
ask
for
a
report.
This
is
just
going.
Do
it
take
those
eight
areas
you
already
know
where
they
are
they're
all
over
the
city,
I'm
not
sure,
actually,
where
the
other
three
are,
but
for
the
five
that
are
there
can.
Can
you
just
develop
areas
specific
plants?
If
we
can
do
it
here,
that's
fine.
Wasn't.
A
N
C
F
E
F
F
We
are
not
asking
a
decision
to
be
made
on
something,
an
action
to
be
taken,
and
if
an
action
and
not
a
report
is
if
it's
asking
for
another
report,
you
can
refer
it
back,
but
if,
if
if
this
committee
is
asking
for
a
specific
action
to
be
taken,
that
is
not
just
a
request
for
more
information.
It
needs
council
approval.
That's
my
understanding
is
it.
Is
that
not
correct.
E
F
F
Are
these?
Do
these
motions
require
this
report
to
be
forwarded
on
to
Council
and
I,
know,
I
think
they
do,
and
what
we're
hearing
is
that
it
that
we're
trying
not
to
get
it
to
Council?
Firstly,
I,
don't
know
why
we
wouldn't
send
this
to
Council
and
secondly,
on
a
procedural
matter.
I
think
that
it's
when
we
were
doing
things
like
this,
if
we're
not
sending
to
Council
I,
think
that's
the
wrong
approach.
E
P
F
F
C
E
C
E
E
A
D
Motion
is
based
on
the
deputy
made
a
presentation
on
behalf
of
Long
Branch
Neighborhood
Association
were
on
the
back
of
the
letter.
There's
four
recommendations
that
are
up
on
the
screen
and
I
would
like
to
ask
that
the
committee
get
a
report
back
on
the
viability
of
undertaking
these
four
recommendations
for
our
information
to
see
what
we
might
be
able
to
do.
So.
Just
a
me
want
to
report
back
to
committee
on
these
four
recommendations.
C
F
F
A
D
I'm
moving
that
the
city
that
our
Parks
Recreation
and
forestry
staff
look
at
these
four
recommendations
and
suggest
to
us
what
can
be
done
and
what
can
be
done
by
Parks
and
Rec.
They
could
put
that
forward.
What
can't
be
done
by
us,
they
could
say,
should
be
referred
to
planning.
So
I
want
just
our
staff
to
report
back
on
the
viability
of
these
four
recommendations.
Okay,.
M
D
C
C
A
M
A
motion:
it's
the
first
recommendation
that
was
put
in
from
councilor,
leading
with
some
amendment
just
so
that
there's
flexibility
in
the
request
for
$4,000.
That
also
includes
looking
at
plan.
Seeing
number
B
is
being
changed:
planting
not
planning
planting
on
public
land,
planting
on
private
land,
but
also
looking
at
enhancements
and
maintenance
of
the
existing
canopy.
Because
if
we
do
want
to
reach
forty
percent,
we
also
have
to
maintain
the
trees
that
are
there
also,
so
that
funds
could
be
directed
towards
invasive
species
and
the
ravine
strategy.
M
A
C
Councillor
Layton,
thank
you
and
I'll
just
move
the
second
part
of
my
motion
or
of
the
recommendation
in
the
letter
and
thank
councillor
McKelvey
for
expanding
what
was
being
identified
in
number
one.
It
certainly
was
the
intent
of
of
the
motion
to
do
as
much
as
we
could
with
federal
money
to
to
to
implement
the
city's
tree.
Canopy.
Look
the
new
government
promised
they
were
gonna
plant,
two
billion
trees.
So
let's
help
them
do
it,
because
some
of
those
trees
will
have
to
go
in
in
cities.
C
We
hope
I,
assume
they'll
have
a
an
urban
tree
policy.
Planting
a
tree
of
an
urban
center
probably
looks
pretty
different
than
planting
a
tree
in
a
in
a
clear-cut
area
in
northern
BC.
It's
probably
a
little
bit
different
amount
of
cost
associated
with
that,
but
hopefully
some
of
that
money
will
be
spent
in
in
municipal
areas.
C
Would
this
perhaps
would
also
let
us
catch
up
some
ground
to
from
the
decision
that
was
made
in
2012
to
slow
down
the
implementation
of
our
canopy
of
our
tree
canopy
strategy
and
so
I
I'm
hopeful
that
the
federal
government
will
do
something
in
this
regard,
planting
trees
has
seemed
to
become
a
a
climate
strategy,
I'm
not
sure
about
how
effective
it.
It
is
by
comparison
to
trying
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
but
I
think
it's
probably
that
they
go
hand
in
hand.
F
A
C
C
A
J
Just
just
a
couple
of
comments,
observations,
I,
I,
think
sitting
here
listening
to
some
of
the
death
and
talk
about
how
we
could
be
so
much
more
effective
in
in
this
exercise.
I
know
something
we've
done
and,
and
we
do
on
an
annual
basis
in
in
my
area
in
my
ward,
is
we
organize
schools
and
we
go
out
and
we
plant
trees
and
ravines
or
other
identified
areas,
and
and
it's
a
real
exciting
day
for
for
most
kids
to
be
able
to
do
that?
J
And
you
know-
and
it's
it's
it's
always
a
very
enjoyable
event
to
see
to
see
a
bunch
of
school
kids
really
happy
about
doing
something
for
their
environment,
doing
something
in
their
local
park,
doing
something
for
Mother,
Nature
and
I.
Think
I
wanted.
The
deputy
inside
spoke
to
that
fact
on
how
much
more
effective-
and
it's
not
always
about
money.
It's
not
always
about
asking.
The
federal
government
depend
10
million
more
trees.
Where
do
you
get
to
ten
million
trees?
J
It's
it's
like
it's
like
somebody,
man,
it
waves,
their
magic
wand
and
all
of
a
sudden
there's,
like
10
million
trees,
ready
to
plant
all
right.
It
doesn't
happen
that
way
like
somebody
needs
to
go
out
and
get
a
seed
and
plant
that
seed
and
that
seed
needs
to
be
nurtured
and
allowed
to
grow,
and
then
you
have
a
little
seedling
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
you
have
something
that
you're
able
to
plan
somewhere
right
and
and
that's
where
it
all
kind
of
like
falls
apart.
It's
it's
kind
of
like.
J
We
just
think
that
that
somehow
you
just
you
know
it's
something
like
this.
You
just
sort
of
you
know
throw
some
money,
I
didn't
all
of
a
sudden
wallow.
It
happens
right
well,
there
aren't
that
many
people
growing
these
be
seedlings,
so
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
and
and
and
and
it
was
people
said
it,
but
we
just
don't
pay
attention
to
folks
right.
J
We,
you
need
a
more
coordinated
effort
and
I
think
that
if
we
applied
some
resources
because
we
have
the
the
people
in
the
places
that
you
can
actually
you
know,
grow
trees
that
you
might
be
able
to
plant
and
in
places.
But
we
don't.
We
don't
really
think
that's
true.
We
don't
really
sort
of
spend
a
lot
of
time.
Thinking
about
how
we
can
create
those
networks,
create
those
programs
that
will
involve
more
and
more
people.
J
So
many
people
have
come
forward
to
this
committee
over
my
time
here
and
have
said
we
want
to
help
all
right
and
then
we
have
all
these
rules
that
prohibit
them
from
helping.
You
know
people
want
to
go
out
and
and
and
and
and-
and
you
know,
deal
with
invasive
species
in
ravines
and
things
I've
done,
then
they
have
to
go
out
and
get
a
permit
from
our
city
and
it's
cumbersome.
It
takes
a
long
time
and
and
in
their
night
they're
not
able
to
do
that.
J
You
know
three
million
more
trees
and
well
I,
just
somehow
it's
magically
going
that
going
to
you
know
those
seedlings
and
those
little
trees
are
gonna
appear.
I
know
in
our
case,
when
we
go
out
and
try
to
get
these
trees
from
the
Toronto
region,
Conservation,
Authority
and
others
they're
tough
to
get.
J
Because
they're
expensive,
because
they're
not
around
there,
aren't
a
whole
lot
of
them
and-
and
that's
that's
part
of
the
problem
where
it
kind
of
it
all
falls
apart.
The
other
the
last
observation
but
I
want
to
make.
If
I
may
is
it's
it's
you
get
really
upset
when
you
drive
by
a
street
where
we
as
a
city,
have
gone
out
and
planted
some
trees
and
then
like
one
out
of
every
three
or
four
is
dying.
J
You
know
so
you
you
plant
this
beautiful
little
tree
that
someone
has
taken
a
lot
of
times
to
take
from
a
seed
to
like
you
know,
five
six,
seven
eight
feet.
In
height,
we
load
that
tree
up
on
a
truck
with
a
couple
of
people.
They
go
out.
They
dig
a
hole
they
plant
that
tree
in
the
ground.
Think
of
all
that
effort
and
then
five,
six,
seven
months
later,
the
tree
is
dead.
J
Thank
you
so
very
much
because
we
don't
really
sort
of
spend
a
lot
of
time.
So
if
we're
going
to
make
that
effort
to
take
a
seed
grow,
it
nurture
it
load
it
on
a
truck.
Have
a
couple
of
people
go
out
and
dig
a
hole,
and
it's
taken
a
long
time
it's
taking
years
to
get
that
tree
to
that
level,
and
then
they
just
simply
plant
it
in
the
ground
and
allow
it
to
die.
J
A
A
A
D
A
O
Greetings,
thank
you
at
heart.
This
is
about
ensuring
quality
and
the
work
that
is
done
for
the
city.
This
is
good,
very
good,
but
unfortunately,
this
being
curanto,
we
can't
only
be
thinking
about
the
the
quality
for
the
Carkoon,
but
also
for
how
it
works
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
I
think
we
just
don't
tend
to
look
after
the
pedestrians
and
cyclists
quite
well
enough
now,
at
times
it
feels
like
the
city
is
actually
not
on
top
of
defects
in
construction,
let
alone
the
design
shortfalls,
and
so
it's
the
intent
for
a
longer
warranty
period.
O
This
late
fall,
even
though
it
wasn't
supposed
to
be
done
until
maybe
2022,
maybe
being
bumped
from
2017
it's
hard
to
know
and
I'm
really
happy
with
the
fresh
pavement,
but
unfortunately
didn't
do
much
for
the
cycling
safety
and
the
Bloor
viaduct
lanes
from
Broadview
to
Sherbourne.
Maybe
the
oldest
bike
lanes
here
in
Toronto,
and
they
made
a
huge
difference
to
cycling,
even
without
the
logical
continuation
of
the
stage,
one
beyond
Sherbourne.
They
are
and
remain
well
used,
even
when
the
conduction
conditions
were
rough
and
dangerous.
O
So
we
were
very
lucky
to
have
the
fresh
pavement
and
just
before
we
get
into
some
of
this,
the
right
words
curves
any
motorist
or
truck
taking
a
curve.
When
there's
a
bike
lane,
we
they
invariably
cut
into
the
corner,
and
this
is
kind
of
nervous
making,
sometimes
especially
when
you
have
conditions
like
when
the
bike
lanes
happen
to
be
full
of
snow,
for
instance-
and
this
is
the
particular
corner
that
I'll
be
focusing
on
on
Bloor
East
from
previous
years.
O
O
If
we're
wanting
to
actually
have
a
good
quality,
a
continuous
bike
way
to
have
subway
relief.
This
sort
of
issue
is
not
okay,
it
is
bad,
especially
as
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
the
bike
lane
as
you're
coming
into
it's
just
a
single
line.
So
it's
it's!
It's
not!
Okay.
We
need
the
space.
We
need
the
safety
I,
don't
know
how
we
managed
to
get
this
sort
of
thing
changed.
You
hate
to
say,
hey
rip
it
up
and
do
it
again,
but
this
is
one
indication
of
of
well,
you
know.
O
Are
we
reacting
to
this
problem
I'd
like
to
say?
Yes,
that's
why
I'm
I'm
here
and
it's
all
for
pedestrians?
We've
just
had
fresh
work
done
on
Bloor
in
the
annex
tax
dollars
at
work.
We
again
it's
tricky
to
do
this
stuff,
they're
working,
hard,
they're,
moving
vast
amounts
of
materials
and
bringing
stuff
in,
and
it's
really
complicated
to
do
stuff
well
and
do
it
quickly,
but
this
is
what
the
pedestrians
get
for
the
next
30
or
40
years.
One
example
big
leap
over
everything
at
bluer
and
Spadina.
O
O
Do
we
actually
send
it
out,
in
all
conditions,
to
make
sure
that
the
drainage
is
good,
so
extending
the
warranty
periods
as
good
as
that
might
be
I,
do
I
think
we
need
to
speed
up
the
reaction
time
and
make
sure
that
all
users
are
taken
into
account
and
you
have
a
pretty
critical
eye
and
some
holdbacks.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
F
F
T
The
chair
in
in
2018,
we
did
a
few
things.
One
was
that
we
we
changed
our
standard,
more
consistent
with
what
MTO
had
been
using
for
a
number
of
years,
and
that
is
standard
with
respect
to
the
makeup
of
the
asphalt
mix,
which
corresponds
to
the
traffic
volumes,
as
well
as
the
nature
of
the
traffic
vehicles
versus
heavy
traffic,
as
well
as
we
Inc
Riis.
The
percentage
of
asphalt
cement
that
sort
of
the
binding
agent
on
the
mix
as
well,
and
then
further
to
that,
we
we
prohibited
the
use
of
a
reviews
on
oil
yeah.
T
F
T
F
F
If
I
wanted
to
like,
if
there
is
let's
say
Laurens
and
Lauren
said
with
getting
repaved
or
was
repaved
I
could
say,
come
to
you
and
say:
can
I
see
the
records
for
that
to
make
sure
that
the
mix
was
done
right
through
that
you're
absolutely
and
on
the
back
end,
when
they
have
to
check
at
the
back
end
right
to
make
sure
everything
was
done
appropriately.
All
that
is
documented
by
this
contractor
is
that
right.
Well,.
T
T
F
F
T
F
So
20
to
25
years
so
I,
you
know
I'm
just
asking
questions
about
we're.
Checking
so
I
guess
we're
checking
to
make
sure
that
the
mix
is
all
right
and
that's
that
sort
of
stuff.
So
how
many?
What
percentage
is
over
a
road?
Do
we
get
to
between
how
many
have
sort
of
gone
past
the
point
of
warrant
of
20
20
to
25
years.
T
Through
the
chair,
I'll
defer
that
to
transportation,
I
guess
the
other
point
that
I
need
to
notice
noted
in
the
in
the
report
through
transportation.
They've
done
very
detailed,
assess
pavement
condition
assessment
with
an
automated
vehicle
that
has
traversed
all
of
all
of
the
streets,
all
collaborative
roads
in
the
city
and
they're
doing
this
on
a
regular
basis
on
a
regular
recycling.
Uh-Huh.
F
E
So
through
the
chair,
so,
as
Michael
said,
we've
since
2017
we've
been
conducting
a
thorough,
automated
assessment
of
our
road
conditions.
As
you
will
be
aware
from
our
previous
budget
notes
and
the
budget
notes
which
are
coming
forward
for
for
next
week,
we
do
have
a
state
of
good
repair
issue
with
our
local
and
major
roads
in
terms
of
our
local
roads
about
twenty
four
percent
of
those
are
in
a
poor
condition.
E
E
F
J
T
J
J
I
know
I,
understand
that
we
say
we
don't
want
recycled
oils
in
in
ashphalt,
I,
get
that
and
and
and
and
I
and
I,
also
understand
why
we
don't
want
the
oils.
It's
my
understanding
that
oils
in
asphalt
make
the
asphalt
more
brittle
and
it
breaks
up
faster,
correct,
okay,
but
there's
no
real
test
that
you
can.
Can
that
actually
detects
recycled
oils
in
asphalt.
J
T
J
Just
to
get
back
to
the
mix
for
a
sec,
I
know
so
and
and
and
the
deputy
mayor
asked
the
question
that
or
rather
made
a
statement
that
is
somewhat
interesting.
So
so
we
changed
the
mix
two
years
ago
right
in
2018
or
something
okay
and
and
the
mix
is
now
far
more
in
line
with
what
the
Ministry
of
Transportation
has
been
doing
for
for
many
years.
Correct.
T
Through
the
chair,
there's
two
aspects
to
the
mix:
one
is
the
standard
that
is
used
with
respect
to
the
to
the
makeup
of
the
asphalt
mix,
given
a
particular
road
condition,
traffic
volumes
as
well
as
traffic,
and
then
the
other
is
with
respect
to
increasing
the
amount
of
asphalt
cement
that
is
introduced
in
the
mix.
That's
the
binding
agent.
J
Right
because
to
try
to
understand
this,
so
we
have,
we
have
to
very
extreme
seasons
in
Canada
or
in
Toronto.
We
have
a
hot
summer.
We
have
a
very
cold
winter,
so
you
want
to
try
to
get
a
mix
that
will
not
be
very,
very
soft
in
the
summer
when
the
Sun
hits
it
hard
and
at
the
same
time
you
don't
want
it
to
be
very,
very
hard
and
brittle
in
the
winter
when
it
when
the
mix
is
impacted
by
the
cold
correct
through.
T
The
chair,
that
is
correct,
I,
mean
our
ultimate
objective.
To
go
back
to
the
deputy
mayor's
question
is
to
ensure
that
we
get
a
life
cycle
in
the
order
2025
years
for
every
resurfacing
project
like
I.
Guess
that
that's
the
that's
the
the
main
thing
that
I
also
need
to
point
out
that
if
you
and
the
spirit
of
the
warranty
were
actually
over
the
two
years,
we
actually
run
that
pavement
through
two
freeze-thaw
cycles.
To
your
point.
T
J
T
Through
through
through
the
chairman,
this
is
it's
a
it's
a
best
practice
of
we're
constantly
reviewing
our
standards
and
specifications.
As
noted
in
the
report,
you
know
we
we
began
in
2016
with
a
fulsome
review
of
our
standards
and
and
as
a
result
of
that,
drawing
on
on
MTO's
experience,
positive
experiences,
because
they
could
have
been
negative,
that
we
felt
that
we
should
follow
their
lead
and
adopt
a
similar
standard
for
our
pavement
projects.
Now.
T
Through
the
chair,
when
it's
all
said
and
done,
if,
if
their
work
does
not
conform
to
our
requirements,
you
know,
if
it's
close
to
our
requirements,
they
could
be
penalized
with
respect
to
some
some
reduction
in
terms
of
what
we
would
paying
them.
If
it's,
if
it's
a
significant
non-compliance,
then
they'll
have
to
remove
and
replace
no.
T
The
other
point
that
I
need
to
highlight
is
the
fact
that
we
do
have
a
contractor
performance
evaluation
process
and
that
evaluation,
the
fact
that
they
are
pushing
the
envelope
with
respect
to
the
mix
design
that
they've
used
factors
into
the
to
that
performance
evaluation
and
it
could
ultimately
to
suspension
of
the
contractor
from
bidding
on
future
contracts
for
some
period
of
time.
Thank.
A
A
Normally,
we've
worked
through,
but
I
see
from
the
items
remaining
it's
a
long
way
to
the
finish
line.
So
is
it
the
will
of
committee
to
continue
work
through
or
break
for
lunch
break
for
lunch?
Someone
is
buying
counselor
McKelvey
lunch
today.
You
know
very
hungry
okay,
so
actually
one
of
the
most
intriguing
parts
of
this
report
I
have
a
few
questions.
A
T
Well,
through
through
the
chair
that
there's
effectively
what
we
are
saying,
if
some
work
has
been
done
to
to
disturb
to
disrupt
to
damage
the
work
that
have
been
completed,
that
warranty
is
void.
The
contractor
is
not
going
to
assume
responsibility
for
an
impact
to
the
work
that
they've
done
by
a
third
party,
so.
A
A
A
T
The
chair
know
I
guess
what
you're
reading
is
two
things
one
is.
The
contractor
is
prepared
to
give
you
a
warranty
for
whatever
period
you
feel
necessary,
but
you're
going
to
be
paying
a
premium
on
their
work
number
one
and
number
two.
We
get
into
this
debate,
just
as
you
highlighted
with
respect
to
any
damage
that
has
been
done
to
the
work
that
they've
completed
you're
now
into
a
debate
in
terms
of
to
the
extent
to
which
they
are
going
to
honor
their
warranty.
T
You
know
any
fault
that
may
have
existed
with
respect
to
the
condition
of
the
road
base,
for
example,
if
it
in
any
way
shape
or
form
impacted
the
surface
layer
that
was
laid.
That
will
be
an
argument
that
they
put
forward.
So
that
comes
with
with
some
risk
and
ultimately
there
will
be
a
pie
price
premium
that
the
city
would
have
to
pay.
If
we
look
at
an
extended
warranty
period.
T
The
chair,
no,
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
highlighted
in
the
report
and
again
with
the
detailed
condition
assessments
that
transportation
is
undertaking.
Now,
were
you
know,
they're
they're,
assessing
the
the
full
length
of
the
of
their
road
network,
we're
not
seeing
that
deterioration
again,
going
back
to
the
earlier
question
with
respect
to
the
longevity
of
that
work.
We're
still
you
know
if
they're
meeting
our
requirements,
both
insurance,
pacification
of
the
asphalt
mix
and
the
and
the
way
that
it's
constructed,
it's
still
expecting
a
2025
year,
return
on
the
network,
so.
A
Finally,
I
look
at
the
section
on
extended
warranties
and
when
I
look
at
the
the
the
marketplace
for
other
other
products,
whether
weather
fix
goods,
electronic
or
auto.
This
seems
like
a
extremely
high
percentage
of
the
original
cost
of
the
construction
to
extend
the
warranty.
You
would
never
pay
these
percentages
on
an
automobile
for
an
extended
warranty.
Yet
here
we
are
looking
at
a
five-year
warranty
of
a
61
put
up
to
our
61
percent,
increase
I
assume
in
the
original
cost
of
the
construction,
or
is
that
through.
T
The
chair,
no
those
those
cost
those
increases
represent
the
additional
represents
an
increase
in
the
bonding
cost.
This
is
the
performance
bonds
that
we
are
seeking
from
the
contractor.
So,
as
noted
earlier
on,
in
that
section,
the
bonding
performance
bonds
are
typically
0.5
to
1.5%
of
the
actual
contract
value
and
those
increases
are
referenced
against
those
bonding
costs
and
again,
I.
T
Think
I
need
to
highlight
the
fact
that
in
2014
the
Auditor
General
had
made
reference
to
questioning
the
validity
of
of
warranty
periods
beyond
the
one-year,
and
so
our
position
is
is
that
it's
been
a
long
tested
and
standard
practice
within
the
city
of
Toronto,
as
well
as
other
municipalities.
As
you
noted
for
two
years
and
and
our
frame
of
references
that
were
recommendations,
we
we
adhere
to
that
and
sustain
that
for
all
of
our
projects.
Okay,.