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Licensing and Standards Committee, meeting 23, November 16, 2017 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
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Part 2 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEtsTamN0Dk#t=11m43s
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0:12:44 - Call to order
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C
Good
morning,
everyone
I'm
calling
this
meeting
to
order.
We
have
a
cool
room
yes
good
morning,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
23rd
meeting
of
the
licensing
standards
community
meeting
as
usual,
I'd
like
to
remind
everyone
that
you
can
find
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting
in
follow
the
meeting
in
real-time
at
www.renttoowncenter.com.
C
We
have
this
green
bit
of
deput
and
so
far
we
have
41
depe
tents
that
have
been
raised
a
members
of
committee.
What
I
would
like
to
do
at
this
point
is
that
that
speakers
who
have
not
pre-register,
be
allowed
to
register
to
a
speak
until
10
o'clock
this
morning
and
after
that,
no
further
registrations
be
allowed.
So
I'd
like
to
have
that
motion
in
in
the
length
of
public
presentations
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
C
D
Well,
I
may,
as
well
start
reading
the
questions
to
staff
from
members
of
council
take
place
after
the
public
deputations
between
five
minutes
in
total,
and
only
one
round
of
questions
per
councillor.
Point
to
the
questions
of
speakers
by
members
of
council
be
limited
to
three
minutes
with
one
round
of
questions
per
councillor
and
third
part.
The
speaking
times
for
all
members
of
council
be
limited
to
five
minutes
once
again,
with
only
one
round
to
speaking
for
councillor.
E
E
D
E
D
C
You
Thank
You
cancer
brain
cell
for
clarifying
it
just
what
I
would
like
to
add
to
it
is
that,
in
terms
of
quorum,
we
are
going
to
just
throw
away
quorum
for
the
day
to
day
two
members
cancel
our
away,
and
we
also
have
some
commitments
and,
throughout
the
day,
so
I
think
that's
important
to
just
to
focus,
to
listen
carefully
and
not
to
be
repetitive,
with
the
same
statements
over
and
over
again.
So
I
think
these
these
recommendations
are
in
order
in
their
forth
I'm
calling
vote
on
that.
C
Communications
to
have
any
additional
communications,
so
we
have
communications
that
will
be
distributed,
and
today
we
have
in
the
agenda
one
item
and
that's
a
less
23.1
licensing
and
registration
regulations
for
short-term
rentals.
So
that
item
is
being
held
for
deputations
and
we'll
get
on
with
it.
Okay,.
F
Good
morning
mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee
I'm
happy
to
introduce
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
know
one
Michael
mitzi
our
director
in
City
Planning
in
charge
of
the
zoning
team.
We
provided
this
presentation
to
planning
and
growth
management
yesterday,
so
we
thought
it
only
proper
that
we
provide
the
same
level
of
service
to
this
committee.
We're
gonna
take
a
quick
run
through
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
on
the
matter
of
short-term
rentals.
Michael's
gonna
help
address
the
zoning
piece
that
was
dealt
with
yesterday
at
PGM
and
away.
F
There
are
other
platforms
involved
in
the
short
term
rental
space.
All
of
whom
have
been
engaged
through
this
process
so
just
for
a
sense
of
scale,
were
over
in
and
around
11
12
thousand
properties
in
the
City
of
Toronto
rented
on
the
Airbnb
platform.
Airbnb
was
helpful
in
providing
as
data
through
this
process.
So
it's
it's
a
lot
of
that
that
we're
relying
on
of
note
at
least
53
percent
of
the
listings
of
the
data
that
we
had
at
the
time
are
located
in
downtown.
F
F
We
brought
a
framework
report
to
the
executive
committee
in
June.
We
went
back
out
and
did
additional
consultations
on
the
proposed
framework
and
the
direction
was
to
return
to
each
of
three
committees
with
the
applicable
piece
of
the
regulation,
as
I
mentioned
planning
a
growth
management
dealing
with
the
zoning
and
amendments
to
zoning
which
yesterday
we
today
are
here
dealing
with
the
licensing
and
registration
piece
and
there's
a
third
part
dealing
with
taxation.
That
will
come
at
a
later
point.
F
The
intention
is
that
it
let
the
minimum
these
two
reports
will
be
joined
together
at
City
Council
at
the
council
meeting
in
December.
Just
briefly,
going
back
to
the
consultations,
we've
had
numerous
public
meetings.
Numerous
stakeholder
engagements,
some
very
focused
discussions
with
particular
participants.
We
had
over
9,000
responses
to
to
online
public
surveys
and
undertook
a
stakeholder
workshop
with
Mars
solutions
lab
as
well
to
help
inform
this
entire
process.
F
We've
we've
approached
this
review
and
this
work
with
a
few
key
principles
at
their
heart:
they're,
permitting
people
to
rent
their
homes
for
short
periods,
that
we
minimize
negative
impacts
to
housing,
affordability
and
availability,
but
at
the
same
time
recognize
a
diversity
or
enabling
a
diversity
and
tourism
accommodations,
while
maintaining
community
stability
minimizing
nuisances
and
and
attempting
to
create
a
regulatory
scheme.
That
is
fair,
balanced
and
easy
for
people
to
follow.
G
G
The
definition
proposed
yesterday
for
your
information
was
in
keeping
with
that
tabled
and
adopted
by
the
executive
committee
at
its
meeting
this
past
summer
on
june
19th,
as
proposed,
short-term
rental
would
be
permitted
in
any
residential
building
type
and,
as
previously
stated,
it
would
have
to
be
provided
in
the
principal
residence
of
a
short-term
rental
operator
within
their
principal
residence.
A
person
could
rent
according
to
what
we
presented
yesterday,
their
dwelling
unit
a
bed
sitting
room,
but
no
more
than
three
and
a
secondary
suite.
G
Also,
a
second
motion
was
brought
forward
yesterday
by
councillor
Fillion
that,
based
on
the
considerable
discussion
and
questions
yesterday,
that
if
the
City
Planning
Division
requires-
or
it
feels
it's
necessary
to
provide
clarity
to
council
or
modify
its
recommendations
that
we
can
do
so
so
for
the
committee's
added
reference-
and
it's
shown
in
that
last
bullet
short-term
rental,
if
approved,
will
not
be
permitted
in
a
vehicle.
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
Tracy.
G
F
The
the
piece
of
this
regulatory
regime-
that's
in
front
of
you
today,
is
that
dealing
with
the
creation
of
a
standalone,
short-term
rental
bylaw.
Firstly,
what
we're
proposing
is
a
registration
system
for
the
people
who
want
to
rent
out
their
principal
residents
or
parts
thereof
and
as
we've
referenced
them
as
operators.
Throughout
the
report,
they
would
be
required
to
register
with
the
city
and
pay
an
annual
fee
and
provide
a
certain
number
of
other
provisions,
including
a
contact
person
24/7
keeping
records.
F
They
must
ensure
any
property
use
for
short-term
rental,
complies
with
all
applicable
laws,
including
the
Ontario
Building
Code,
and
the
Ontario
Fire
Code.
The
proposed
regulation
allows
for
rental
of
any
portion
of
the
home,
as
Michael
has
indicated.
That
now
looks
like
up
to
three
separate
with
bedrooms.
It
is
excluded
the
secondary
suite
based
on
pgms
direction.
Yesterday
they
can
share
rooms
in
their
home
for
an
unlimited
number
of
days,
365
days
a
year.
If
the
principle
resident
chooses
to
rent
out
their
entire
property,
we've
proposed
a
maximum
that
that
occurs
for
a
180
nights.
F
In
a
year,
approximately
six
ish
I
have
six
months
in
the
short
term
rental
bylaw
we're
looking
to
define
principle
residents
as
a
dwelling
unit,
owned
or
rented
by
a
person
alone
or
jointly
with
another
person
where
they
are
ordinarily
resident.
This
does
not
this
means,
it
must
be
an
individual
person.
A
corporation
cannot
hold
a
principle
residence
and
each
person
can
only
have
one
principle:
residence
in
the
registration
process
at
over
18
years
of
age.
Thank
you,
so
at
least
18
years
of
age
and
I'm
just
I'm
not
covering
every
single
point.
F
The
secret
Thank
You
councillor
to
George.
Oh,
there
are
some
additional
provisions
in
there.
We
just
didn't
put
in
the
presentation,
but
they
must
be
s
over
18
years
of
age
and
all
the
other
rules
apply
what
we
have
indicated
through
the
registration
process.
A
submission
of
certain
information,
including
identification,
though
noted
that
identification
is
not
as
yet
been
prescribed.
We've
identified
in
the
recommendation.
It
be
identification
as
identified
by
myself.
F
The
the
goal
in
addressing
the
registration
approach
was
to
ensure
that
we
did
not
unnecessarily
burden
those
people
who
are
primarily
going
to
willfully
comply,
but
at
the
same
time
allow
for
us
to
collect
the
appropriate
amount
of
information
to
advance
our
registration
and
municipal
interests.
In
enforcement.
F
On
the
platform
side,
we're
proposing
a
business
license
for
the
short
term
rental
platform,
they
would
be
subject
to
a
$5,000
application
at
the
first
instance
and
then
their
license
licensing
fee
would
be
comprised
of
what
based
on
a
one
dollar
per
night
booked
from
there
forward.
There's
certain
requirements,
certain
requirements
on
the
platform
as
well,
which
is
listed
within
the
report,
including
they
can
only
list
properties
that
have
a
registration
number.
The
city
would
be
issuing
registration
numbers
to
the
operators
and
also
having
to
develop
procedures
to
deal
with
nuisance
and
other
other
conditions.
F
F
You
know
I
think
really.
What
was
important
is
the
that
we
were
attempting
to
balance
the
interests
of
our
homeowners
and
our
resident
tenants,
the
neighborhoods,
where
this
activity
is
occurring
at
the
same
time,
recognizing
that
it
can
provide
economic
benefit
to
the
city
at
the
same
time,
recognizing
that
we
have
a
challenge
with
a
fort
availability
and
affordability
of
housing
in
the
city
for
owners
and
renters,
and
this
can
provide
an
opportunity
for
them
as
well.
F
C
H
Be
same
Lazzaro
I'm
speaking
here
today
on
behalf
of
the
Expedia
family
of
brands,
including
vacation
rental
leaders,
home
away
and
vacation
rentals
by
owner,
Expedia
and
home
way,
are
supportive
of
all
five
guiding
principles
identified
by
city
staff
for
the
regulations
of
short-term
rentals.
In
particular,
we
recognize
that
even
though
Toronto's
rental
vacancy
rate
was
much
lower
in
the
1990s,
the
availability
of
long
term
rental
housing
is
a
major
concern
and
housing.
Affordability
in
Toronto
is
an
important
challenge.
H
Additionally,
the
council
seeks
to
ensure
that
short-term
rentals
do
not
create
major
nuisances,
especially
with
regard
to
noise.
But,
although
we
agree
with
most
of
city
staff's
recommendations,
we
do
not
believe
they've
struck
the
right
balance
when
it
comes
to
their
proposal
to
restrict
short-term
rentals
to
principal
residences.
In
fact,
we
believe
a
principal
residence
restriction
would
be
in
direct
conflict
with
another
guiding
principle
identified
by
city
staff
to
enable
greater
diversity
in
tourism
accommodations.
H
We
also
note
that,
in
the
only
scientific
study
commissioned
by
the
city,
67%
of
Torontonians
supported
allowing
short-term
rentals
in
secondary
residences.
So,
let's
be
frank,
the
current
problem
with
short-term
rentals
is
not
related
to
secondary
residences.
The
problem
is
investors
purchasing
purchasing
many
dwellings
in
a
single
building
purely
for
conversion
into
short-term
rentals
principal
residence
restriction,
unnecessarily
risks
eliminating
a
type
of
accommodation
that
has
long
been
available
in
Toronto
to
traveling
families.
Traveling
families
who
want
kitchen
want
kitchens
washing
machines,
separate
bedrooms,
amenities
that
are
not
available
affordably
in
hotels.
H
Moreover,
in
our
experience,
families
typically
want
whole
home
rentals
not
to
stay
in
one
else's
residents.
We
believe
that
a
principal
residence
restriction
would
make
it
more
difficult
for
families
to
visit
Toronto,
harming
tourism
which
to
achieve
the
balanced
outcome.
We
all
want
we're
seeking
for
this
committee
to
replace
the
principal
residence
restriction
with
one
short-term
rental
license
per
person.
An
idea
noted,
if
not
endorsed
by
city
staff
in
their
report.
This
change
would
eliminate
the
current
problem
of
investors.
H
Buying
up
condos
for
conversion
into
short-term
rentals,
ensure
that
traveling
families
enjoy
a
diverse
choice
of
accommodations.
Giving
safeguarding
Toronto
excuse
me
as
an
attractive
and
affordable
destination
for
families
and
be
much
easier
for
the
city
to
enforce
than
a
principal
residence
restriction.
H
E
Minutes
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
here
today
is
to
change
the
definition
of
a
house,
so
in
us
looking
at
changing
the
definition
of
the
house.
That
means
allowing
that
house
to
run
as
a
business.
Would
you
agree
that
maybe
we
should
also
look
at
maybe
along
GAD,
that
has
a
house
that
also
has
a
garage
to
paint
fix
cars
in
his
garage,
somebody
that
has
a
house
also.
We
have
a
barber
shop,
innocent
basement,
somebody
that
teaches
piano
to
have
piano
lessons
in
their
in
their
home.
H
H
D
H
H
Sorry
we
we
addressed
the
impact
on
housing,
availability
of
the
short
term
rental
market.
Additionally,
in
our
experience,
traveling
families
do
not
want
to
stay
in
someone
else's
house.
They
want
the
run
of
the
house.
They
want
the
washing
machine,
the
bedrooms,
the
convenience
that
comes
with
being
able
to
stay
under
one
roof.
B
Good-Morning
counselors,
my
name
is
Caitlin
O'neal
I'm,
the
public
policy
director
for
sonder
and
I'm
joined
by
my
colleague,
Ryan
Killeen,
who
heads
up
our
local
operations
here
he's
next
up
on
the
list,
but
he'll
be
joining
me.
Instead.
Saunder
is
a
professional,
short-term
rental
provider.
Here
in
Toronto,
we
appreciate
having
been
invited
to
consult
with
the
municipal
licensing
and
standards
division,
but
we're
disappointed
that
our
business
model
has
not
been
accounted
for
and
it's
not
included
in
the
proposed
recommendations
that
are
before
you
today.
B
Saunder
is
a
montreal
founded
technology,
startup
and
hospitality
company
that
provides
short-term
stays
to
travelers
in
cities
across
the
world.
You'll
see
most
of
our
units
in
multifamily
buildings
in
vibrant
neighborhoods
that
have
a
lot
of
commercial
activities
such
as
restaurants
or
shops,
because
our
guests,
once
you
enjoy
Toronto
like
a
local
but
with
added
amenities
like
saunas,
concierge
service.
B
So
our
model
allows
us
an
extra
layer
of
control
over
each
rental
that
most
platforms
can't
provide,
and
it
means
that
we
can
directly
address
civic
concerns
like
nuisance
and
like
cleanliness,
so,
for
example,
trash
never
piles
up
in
the
streets,
because
our
local
housekeeping
partners
regularly
maintain
the
units.
We
understand
the
desire
to
limit
the
use
of
residential
property
for
short-term
rentals
and
that's
why
we're
urging
the
creation
of
a
new
licensing
category
for
commercial
operators
that
would
be
permitted
only
for
short-term
rental
units
within
commercial
zones.
B
We
would
be
pleased
to
add
a
greater
regulatory
burden
for
these
commercial
operators,
such
as
1
million
dollars
of
liability
insurance
on
each
unit,
24/7
support
from
local
management
teams
and
remittance
of
any
applicable
taxes.
As
part
of
this
process,
the
former
mayor
of
Austin
Lee
Leffingwell
actually
submitted
a
letter
to
Mayor
Torian
Council
in
September
about
how
he
learned
firsthand
the
downside
of
regulation,
which
effectively
bans
all
whole
harm
short-term
rentals.
B
Providers,
like
sonner,
are
allowing
travelers
to
experience
the
real
Toronto
by
fully
immersing
themselves
in
the
local
culture,
and
we
hope
that
the
committee
will
support
the
development
of
short-term
rental
policy
that
best
reflects
the
innovations
of
this
industry.
We
thank
you
for
your
time
and
we're
both
available
for
questions.
E
B
B
E
I
E
I
I
We
quite
often
go
to
our
neighbors
and
tell
them
exactly
what
we're
doing
we
stay
away
from
single-family
homes
like
you've
used
in
this
example,
but
people
around
us
are
well
aware
of
what
we
do
if
we're
in
a
building
that
say
a
walk-up,
the
landlord's
or
anyone
that
can
be
affected
rules.
Do
you
have
our
contact
info
if.
E
You
are
in
an
apartment
or
in
a
house,
then
you
would
go
to
the
couple
houses
to
the
right
to
the
left
on
the
same
floor
and
you
will
tell
them
who
you
are.
What
you're
doing
here
is
your
phone
number
just
in
case
there's
some
concerns.
That's
correct,
we're
very
transparent.
Okay,
so
you
would
be
supportive
of
the
city.
Then,
would
you
be
supportive
of
the
city
saying
to
to
whoever
the
the
the
company
is
or
the
operators
that
before
you're
licensed
that
you
must
notify
your
neighbors?
That's.
E
J
Mr.
chairman,
this
notion
that
you've
brought
up
about
a
special
license
in
a
commercial
area.
Just
help
me
understand
a
little
bit
better
because
in
commercial
areas,
especially
mixed
use
areas
or
even
commercially,
we
have
multi
residential
buildings.
So,
in
essence,
are
you
saying
that
we're
creating
a
special
license
for
commercial
condominium,
residential
places
or
units
that
are
available
that
we're
driving
at
thank.
B
You
for
your
question
counselor.
The
idea
is
that
we
believe
it's
important
to
limit
commercial
operations
of
short-term
rentals
in
residential
zones.
Those
tend
to
be
the
zones
that
have
more,
you
know:
single-family
homes,
families,
nuisance
issues.
We
believe
that
the
commercial
operation
of
short-term
rentals
is
more
appropriate
in
commercial
zones
where
other
commercial
businesses
are
allowed
to
be
oftentimes
hotels
as
well.
There's
more
of
a
transient
nature
in
those
zones
and
nuisance
is
less
of
a
concern.
Thank.
J
C
C
K
Good
morning
my
name
is
Alex,
dag
I'm,
the
Airbnb
public
policy
manager
here
in
Canada.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
today.
The
recommended
approach
before
you
has
been
carefully
considered
and
extensively
consulted
on
by
staff
for
almost
two
years.
These
are
tough
rules
both
for
hosts
and
for
platforms
like
Airbnb,
one
of
14,
short-term
rental
platforms
that
are
active
in
Toronto.
While
many
of
the
proposed
rules
make
sense,
there
are
still
some
significant
issues
that
need
to
be
fixed.
K
We
are
encouraged
to
see
that
the
proposed
rules
are
clear:
Torontonians
are
allowed
to
share
their
principal
residents
in
Toronto
their
homes,
most
of
our
hosts
share
only
their
principal
residents
and
they
care
about
their
homes
and
their
neighbors.
That's
why
the
proposed
hundred
and
eighty
day
cap
on
nights
for
entire
unit
Rendel
rentals
is
redundant.
A
principal
residence
restriction
is
already
a
cap
in
an
in
and
of
itself
and
filters
out
commercial
operators.
The
City
of
Vancouver
on
Tuesday
already
recognized
this.
K
They
voted
on
regulations
on
Tuesday,
with
no
nightcap,
no
burdensome
rules
for
hosts
to
prove
primary
residents
and
no
prohibited
buildings,
no
prohibited
buildings
list.
In
the
City
of
Vancouver,
the
additional
cap
only
hurts
families
legitimately
sharing
their
homes,
who
may
happen
to
be
away
for
large
chunks
of
the
year
and
whose
home
would
never
be
on
the
long
term
rental
market.
It
also
adds
more
red
tape
and
burden
for
everyone.
K
I
know
a
host
living
in
Toronto
who
works
elsewhere
during
the
he
works
in
a
small
town
all
week
he
comes
home
to
his
home
on
the
weekend
in
Toronto.
A
hundred
and
eighty
day,
nightcap
restricts
him
from
me
able
to
share
his
home
during
the
week
and
punishes
him
for
no
good
reason
at
all.
Our
biggest
priority
is
protecting
our
hos
ability
to
continue
to
share
their
homes.
A
typical
host
in
Toronto
earns
less
than
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
through
home,
sharing
well
below
Canada's
threshold
for
collecting
and
remitting
HST.
K
We
also
have
many
people
sign
up
to
host
in
our
platform,
who
never
end
up
hosting
a
guest
or
choosing
or
choose
not
to
list
their
home.
That's
why
we
believe
the
proposed
50
dollar
annual
host
registration
fee
is
reasonable,
and
it's
why
we
support
staffs
recommendation
for
a
straightforward
registration
process.
We
welcome
and
we
want
our
host
to
have
the
opportunity
to
participate
lawfully
and
equally
in
this
economy,
and
we
know
from
our
experience
around
the
world
that
when
registration
is
burdensome,
you
get
less
of
it.
K
The
recommendations
for
regulating
home,
sharing
and
short-term
rentals
reflect
the
thorough
work
of
city
staff.
They
embrace
responsible
home
sharing,
yet
are
clear
that
commercial,
short-term
rentals
will
be
illegal.
In
Toronto,
we've
identified
some
issues
that
need
further
consideration
and
we're
ready
to
work
together
to
address
them.
We're
strongly
encouraging
you
to
ensure
that
home,
sharing
and
short-term
rentals
in
Toronto
are
embraced
in
a
balanced
way,
as
Toronto
is
actively
trying
to
attract
leading
tech
and
innovation
companies.
K
E
K
K
K
E
K
E
But
you
want
us
to
have
his
address.
You
want
us
to
have
his
phone
number.
We
want
us
to
have
everything
else
from
him,
but
not
the
fact
that
he
is
actually
registered
with
HST
I
mean
this
is
a
lot
of
money
that
we're
talking
about
here.
The
13%
and
some
of
it
does
flow
down
to
help
our
hospitals
does
flow
down
to
help
our
schools
fix
our
roads
and
everything
else.
Yes,
didn't
you
agree
with
me
that
the
person
should
be
stepping
up
and
putting
in
his
HST
err
on
the
line.
K
Well,
HST
is
a
federal
jurisdiction
and
we
actually
do
work
with
the
federal
government
to
try
to
proactively
partner
with
them
to
ensure
that
the
hosts
are
complying
with
whatever
rules
apply
to
them,
such
as
HST
such
as
paying
their
federal
income
tax.
So
that
you
know
all
of
those
things
do
benefit
the
city
in
Trentino,
saying.
E
K
C
K
C
K
D
K
We
appreciate
the
suggestions
to
move
to
a
one
host.
We
call
it
like
a
one
host
one
address
kind
of
policy.
Some
cities
have
done
that.
The
advantage
of
that
is,
it
makes
it
easier
to
enforce
in
terms
of
the
city's
obligations,
for
that
we've
been
trying
to
partner
with
the
city
for
many
years
and
move
forward.
K
Well,
look:
the
majority
of
our
hosts
are
already
sharing
their
primary
residence
in
Toronto,
and
what
we
have
said
is
to
make
sure
that
it's,
as
is
the
definition
of
what
a
primary
resident
should
be
as
flexible
enough
as
possible.
To
not
you
know,
affect
Torontonians
are
just
trying
to
live
in
a
very
expensive
city
and
try
to
afford
their
home.
There
are
people
who
travel
and
work
between
Toronto
and
Ottawa.
The
question
is,
which
is
their
principal
residence
by
calling
a
one
host.
One
address
system
then
doesn't
get
into
well.
K
K
G
Morning,
chairman
and
councilmembers
I
will
get
right
to
the
point
of
why
I'm
sitting
here
today
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
maximum
cap
of
a
hundred
and
eighty
nights
and
I'm,
not
I
I,
don't
understand
why
that
that
that
has
been
that
is
being
proposed,
I
believe
it
was
mentioned
earlier.
It's
it's
almost
like
there's
a
double
regulation
here
already,
providing
that
this
is
a
primary
residence,
and
my
case
really
has
to
do
with
with
my
daughter
who
has
a
primary
residence
attending
a
university
out
outside
of
Toronto.
J
Just
a
question
in
the
form
of
a
comment:
there
are
from
an
income
tax,
a
federal
income
tax,
point
of
view,
people
who
are
not
in
their
residents
for
a
certain
number
of
days
lose
the
the
designation
of
principle,
residency
I,
think
in
in
Canada.
So
if
someone
is
out
of
the
country,
for
example,
there
might
be
implications
to
their
renting
their
what
is
deemed
to
be
a
principal
residence,
but
you
lose
the
principal
residency
if
you're
out
of
the
country,
so
I'm
not
sure
well
how
it
works
with
respect
to
out
of
state.
Thank.
G
You
thank
you
counseling
there.
There
are
some
residency
issues
regarding
people
that
spend
more
than
180
days
outside
of
the
country
and
I
think
I
I
think
perhaps
that
was
part
of
the
line,
maybe
snowbirds
renting
their
house
for
six
months,
while
their
way
kind
of
thing
is
why
it
came
came
into
this.
No,
my
daughter,
my
daughter,
goes
to
University
of
Montreal
McGill
she's
within
within
Canada,
and
she
doesn't
because
she's
going
to
school,
it
has
no
impact
on
her
primary
residence.
G
J
E
G
E
C
L
Anna
Massey
of
acute
net,
a
sharing
economy
platform
for
the
healthcare
industry.
My
purpose
for
presentation
to
you
today
is
to
share
with
you
the
opportunities
infrastructure
such
as
Airbnb
are
providing
for
innovation
in
our
city.
You
in
your
packages,
received
an
information
from
me.
My
company
has
pioneering
sharing
economy
for
the
healthcare
industry
for
payers
and
providers,
so
we
can
provide
the
power
of
technology,
so
patient
care
and
home
care
specifically
can
be
delivered
in
a
much
more
economical
manner.
L
So
the
reason
that
I
am
here
it's
because
within
the
sector
of
elder
senior
citizen,
the
opportunity
to
build
long-term
care
facilities
and
provide
housing
and
care
for
them
is
very
limited.
In
fact,
Toronto
star
had
an
article
in
August
where
they
featured
Home
Sharing
as
a
solution
for
senior
citizens.
L
My
company
has
been
in
this
space
for
about
three
years,
providing
clinical
assessment
and
care
plans
to
a
number
of
physician,
clinician
and
nurses
around
the
world,
specifically
in
the
in
Toronto
area,
through
CCAC
s
and
local
health
integration.
Network
I
have
a
very
good
insight
into
the
challenges
our
senior
citizens
are
facing
in
terms
of
not
having
the
opportunity
to
share
their
assets
and
being
forced
out
of
their
home,
because
we
do
not
have
an
infrastructure
for
them
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
economy
of
sharing.
L
L
Your
policies
and
your
regulations
that
you
are
establishing
today
it
is
going
to
have
profound
effect
on
our
future,
on
our
civic
foundation,
on
our
social
contract,
on
our
ability
to
use
the
power
of
technology
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
city
that
is
welcoming
to
everyone
and
provides
opportunity
to
everyone.
And
that's
what
I'm
here,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
to
bring
to
you
an
aspect
of
sharing
economy
that
hopefully
expand
your
horizons
to
think
about
the
future
and
not
limit
us.
Because
of
the
today's
challenges.
E
E
Now,
if
I
am
the
traveler
and
I'm
coming
to
Toronto,
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
the
place
that
I
will
go
to
stay
in
is
clean
and,
of
course,
the
platform
will
take
care
of
that.
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
the
person
that
I'm
going
to
do
stay
in
and
bring
my
my
belongings,
my
and
my
self
is
a
person
who's
reputable
and
a
person
that
does
not
have
a
criminal
record
would
I
be
incorrect.
In
that
absolutely.
L
E
E
Follow-Up
question
would
be
if
I
am
the
traveler,
as
you
said
that,
and
you
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
coming
into
a
house
which
the
person
doesn't
have
a
criminal
record.
Would
you
object
that
the
operators
provide
the
city
with
a
criminal
background
check,
so
the
traveler
that
comes
into
Toronto?
Is
it
has
a
clear
mind
that
they're
going
into
a
well-respected
house
and
they're
not
going
to
house
that
they
might
have
some
difficulty
in
I.
L
L
You
know,
frankly,
the
people
who
operate
hotels
if
you're
gonna
do
that,
then
I
would
expect
every
person
that
works
in
a
hotel.
That
I
also
trust
of
me.
The
criminal
check
just
to
make
sure
people
that
comes
and
cleans
my
room
in
my
hotel,
but
they
also
have
criminal
background
check,
would
say,
make
it
fair
for
everybody,
I.
E
L
M
N
Toronto's
reputation
for
as
the
center
of
innovation
is
one
of
its
greatest
assets.
The
city
has
considerable
resources
dedicated
to
raising
awareness
of
that
and
towards
attracting
innovative
or
innovative
organizations
to
consider
Toronto
as
a
preferred
global
location
to
build,
grow
and
sustain
their
operations.
I
applaud
and
encourage
your
efforts
in
this
committee
embracing
the
opportunity
of
the
new
economy.
N
The
sharing
economy
is
often
referred
to
this
morning
already
addressing
the
new
challenges
that
come
with
it
complicated
for
sure,
by
the
objective
of
doing
so
without
dampening
the
business
enthusiasm
needed
to
advance
those
developments,
I
understand
the
need
for
the
city
to
develop
regulations
for
Home
Sharing.
That
being
said,
I
urge
you
to
consider
the
importance
of
keeping
in
mind
the
very
business
climate.
The
city
has
sought
one
that
fosters
and
rewards
technology,
advancements
and
innovation.
N
This
requires
a
balanced
approach
to
regulating
new
industries
without
overburdening
operators
and
platforms.
I
have
a
deep
respect
for
the
orderly
planning
and
implementation
that
the
city,
and
indeed
our
democracy,
supports.
There
are
global
eyes
and
your
deliberations
here
to
the
balance
achieved
through
your
considerations,
we'll
be
sending
messages
to
very
large
and
two
very
small
players
alike.
While
Airbnb
is
the
obvious
focus
to
many,
we
know
that
Amazon
and
global
Toronto
must
be
watching
how
you
deliberate
and
decide
in
these
matters
in
this
process.
N
Let's
welcome
these
innovations
in
a
collaborative
and
respectful
manner,
and,
additionally,
the
tech,
innovators
and
interpreters,
I,
know
and
work
with
increasingly
live
and
work
in
multiple
locations
again
seems
to
be
a
recurring
scenario
that
you
have
to
address
before
you
and
they
may
have
multiple
residences
that
they
want
to
short-term
rent
flexibility.
To
do
so
means
that
any
stage
of
their
company
growth,
they
may
use
a
platform
sharing
like
Airbnb
in
their
travels
as
they
raise
capital
or
inexpensively
visit
to
collaborate
and
develop
and
innovate
with
others
in
other
jurisdictions
and
locations.
I.
N
N
O
O
Everyone,
my
name,
is
Hassan
Hassan
and
I'm,
a
manager
for
Toronto
furnished
living.
We
are
a
company
in
we
are
up,
we
are
basically,
we
are
actually
in
the
business
of
providing
short-term
accommodation
facilities,
and
we
have
been
doing
this
business
in
2005.
Our
short
term
is
actually
a
growing
segment
and
in
all
across
in
many
cities
around
the
world,
and
in
our
opinion,
it
is
actually
in
the
city's
best
interest
to
take
advantage
of
this
important
segment
through
proper
regulations
and
by
encouraging
companies
to
provide
these
services,
thereby
promoting
fair
competition.
O
So
we
are,
we
would
prefer.
You
know
that
short
term
market
is
actually
regulated.
However,
it
should
be
regulated
through
proper
channels.
You
know
so
that
fair
competition
could
be
achieved.
Our
research
has
has
indicated
that
there
are
many
groups
that
rely
heavily
on
short
term
market,
for
example
newly
arrived
immigrants.
They
rely
on
it,
patients
from
different
cities
countries.
O
We
have
partnered
with
many
hospitals
as
well,
so
patients
who
actually
come
from
different
cities
outer
provinces,
then
they
need
actually
accommodation
facilities.
They
prefer
to
actually
sit
in
an
apartment,
as
opposed
to
a
hotel
to
avoid
theater
saving
money
and
apartments
also
provide
facilities
that
are
not
available.
You
know
in
hotels
now
we
also
provide
services
to
refugees.
Now
I
mean
we
are
expecting.
A
no
more
refugees
would
actually
come
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
Where
would
they
stay
portals
are
expensive
for
them,
so
they
actually
need
you
know
short
term
accommodation
facilities.
O
O
In
our
opinion,
you
know
we
would
prefer
that
short
term.
The
the
city
imposes
short
term
taxes
and
also,
you
know
a
license
each
and
every
property
and
host
and
representatives
representatives,
you
know,
must
be
available.
You
know
at
the
time
of
chicken
also
our
proposals
presented
by
fair,
B&B
and
other
critics
are
actually
one-sided
and
do
not
reflect
the
actual
position
of
the
city.
O
Toronto
is
a
Kiev
world-class
city
and
to
maintain
its
stature.
The
city
and
the
government
must
must
work
together
to
help
the
city
grow
and
solve
the
issues
that
affect
actually
all
of
us.
Now
our
company
has
been,
and
it
has
been
in
existence
since
2005,
so
we
actually
find.
Rather,
you
know
unfair.
You
know
that
because
of
Airbnb
is
growth,
you
know
our
you
know.
Business
model
has
today
been
affected.
O
E
E
C
O
E
C
O
You
know
like
language
students,
you
know
out-of-town
workers
newly
arrived
immigrants,
patients,
you
know
they
need
to
stay
close
to
hospitals,
hotels
are
expensive,
then
they
prefer
to
stay
in
an
apartment.
So
that's
for
you
know
because,
like
we
have
been
doing
this
business
since
since
2005,
so
that's
12
good
years,
so
we
are,
you
know
quite
involved
in
this
business.
So
we
have
understood
this
market
quite
well,
so
like
we
have
been
noticing.
You
know
that
this
is
actually
a
growing
segment.
O
O
J
To
try
and
understand
the
nature
of
your
business,
it
seems
to
be
quite
in
my
view
anyway
unique.
So
when
you,
when
you
provide
housing
for
people,
Home
Sharing,
let's
say
yes,
sir,
are
you
focusing
on
Home
Sharing,
where
they
have
exclusive
use
of
the
property
or
of
the
home,
or
are
you
looking
at
actually
situations
where
people
cohabit
like
if
I
have
a
principal
residence
I
might
bring
somebody
in
on
a
short-term
basis
to
live
in
my
basement,
let's
say
here
that
is.
O
O
One
unit
will
be
for
one
person
or
for
one
family.
The
unit
will
not
be
shared
by
by
other
individuals.
Now
now
we
provide
a
wide
variety
of
you
know,
accommodation,
you
know
like
studios,
one
bedroom
luxury,
one
bedroom,
two
bedroom,
so,
okay
like
to
regulate
this
market,
you
know
that
will
have
a
very,
very
negative
impact
on
our
business
plus.
You
know,
like
the
whole,
the
short-term
market
will
be
negatively
affected.
For
sure
I
mean
the
city
has
to
strike
a
proper
balance.
A
C
A
My
our
suggested
recommendations
are-
and
this
comes
from
my
Community
Association
of
register
economy.
Neum
that
does
not
permit
short-term
rentals,
be
established.
They
be
placed
on
a
rate
of
the
register.
You
can
place
yourself
on
the
register
upon
proof
of
the
restriction
of
your
condominium
at
one
time,
and/or
renewal
fee
at
a
cost
recovery
be
imposed.
No
operator
license
should
be
issued
to
an
applicant
at
the
prohibited
condominium.
A
We
concur
with
the
finding
on
growth
management
committees
recommendation
we
get
for
exclusion
of
secondary
resident
Suites
yesterday.
My
remaining
issues
relate
to
some
minor
issues
with
within
which
the
that
came
out
in
the
report
on
page
three
and
definitions
to
point
B,
it
describes
what
a
short-term
rental
is
and
I
would
like
to
add
somewhere
a
clarification
as
to
what
is
meant
by
payment.
Does
this
include
or
exclude
a
barter
transaction
in
a
barter
transaction?
The
value
of
what
is
being
bartered
may
be
considered.
A
Consideration
is
the
intent
to
only
include
cash
considerations
or
inclusive
of
a
barter
transactions.
My
second
is
page
two
to
see
an
operator
and
I
put
this
in
and
I
I
know
they
considered
it
and
didn't
didn't
put
it
in,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
for
it
again
consider
allowing
one
operator
license
per
family
unit.
Only
one
per
husband,
husband
and
wife,
either
married
or
living
common-law
I,
realize
that's
a
very
difficult
definition
having
administered
it
for
many
for
different
types
of
jurisdictions.
A
Our
third
is
compliance
and
artist,
proof
of
principle,
residents
enforcement
enforcement
enforcement
and
its
enforcement
with
respect
to
all
of
the
regulations.
Alright,
my
our
recommendations
is
an
auditory
audit
approach.
An
audit
program
established
to
randomly
check
all
requirements,
including
proofs
of
proof
of
principle
residents
if
you'll
just
allow
me
a
couple
more
seconds.
I
will
indicate
that
I
did
watch
yesterday
and
watch.
Miss
cook
explain
that
there
would
be
some
sort
of
active
audit,
but
exactly
how
that
would
would
operate.
Ie
on
a
smell
test
versus
random
was
not
really
clarified.
E
A
E
E
E
A
A
C
A
C
And
that
are
compulsory
on
all
of
us
in
terms
of
declaring
any
incomes
that
cool
or
cannot
be
taxable.
Is
there
a
need
for
a
city
government
to
intervene
too?
Perhaps
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word
interfere
but
to
suggest
and
another
level
of
Taxation
on
it
when
we
already
have
something
that's
in
place.
I
just
want
some
sort
of
clarification,
I'm.
C
Another
report-
that's
coming
before
the
executive
committee
in
terms
of
possible
taxation
on
these
sort
of
rentals.
So
apart
from
that
in
relation
to
to
Cancer
Care
each
answer,
questions
in
terms
of
of
rental
income
as
it
pertains
to
the
income
tax,
is
there
a
need
to
have
further
clarification
on
it?.
J
You
mr.
chairman
I'm
interested
in
your
your
support
for
the
exclusion
of
secondary
Suites,
yes
and
the
reason
I
understood.
Well,
you
perhaps
answer
that
part
for
me
and
then
I'll
give
you
a
supplementary
question,
so
your
support
is
based
primarily
on
retention
of
affordability
of
housing.
Yes,
yes,.
A
Long-Term
rental
unit
for
someone
and
I've
heard
I
heard
yesterday
a
lot
of
comments.
Well,
a
lot
of
this
is
high-end
and
it
wouldn't
be
impacted
for
the
low
income
or
the
affordable,
renting
and
I
say
it
does,
because
there's
a
movement
up.
So
if
you
take
something
out
of
the
higher
income
higher
bracket,
someone
who's
in
a
lower
bracket
that
may
be
able
to
afford
that
maybe
be
impacted
and
not
being
able
to
move
up
so
you're,
looking
at
a
whole
trip
trickle
up
effect
or
trickle
down
of
low
vacancy
rate.
Okay,.
J
Let
me
give
you
a
hypothetical
situation,
sure,
let's
assume
and
I,
wish
I
owned
a
home
where
I
could
rent
out
a
basement
apartment
for
about
2,500
a
month.
Okay.
So
how
does
that
affect
me
fact
that
I
may
choose
not
to
keep
that
secondary
suite
I,
don't
want
to
rent
it?
Maybe
all
year,
all
year,
long
and
I
want
to
just
be
to
have
the
flexibility
of
renting
at
everyone.
You
know,
maybe
only
six
months
of
the
year,
why,
by
choosing
to
do
that,
how
do
I
impact
if
the
the
affordable
housing
situation
you.
A
May
or
may
not
and
I
think
yesterday
they
had
a
very
long
discussion
with
respect
to
this
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
think
allowing
secondary
Suites
just
because
there
are
a
few
people
whomever
they
are.
That
would
not
put
it
onthis
on
the
rental
market
should
preclude
restricting
it
to
allow
anybody
who
would
put
it
on
the
rental
market.
When
I
was
at
the
executive
committee
deputing
there
were.
There
were
a
few
people
that
talked
about
having
units
on
a
second
on
the
rental
market
and
with
Airbnb
took
them
off
the
rental
market.
A
So
you
do
have
that
happening
and
I
realize
that
there
are
some
people
that
may
be
negatively
impacted.
That
would
not
put
something
on
the
rental
impact
and
rental
market,
but
I
think
that
as
a
city,
we
should
be
looking
at
how
we're
administering
overall
and
understanding
that
all
impacts
are
not
going
to
be
even,
and
there
are
some
people
that
are
going
to
be
negative
impacted
that
you
don't
necessarily
want
to
be
negative
impacted.
A
J
C
P
P
C
P
This
is
part
of
the
diversity
of
housing
in
our
city
and
I
really
welcome
it.
However,
a
different
scenario
has
been
evolving.
For
the
last
few
years,
older
folks
have
moved
out
or
passed
away
and
in
their
place,
investors
who
are
absentee
landlords
have
been
buying
houses.
The
small
two
and
a
half
storey
house
next
door
to
ours
is
owned
by
one
of
these
investors.
P
He
rents
primarily
to
young
people
from
out
of
town
or
country
staying
in
Toronto,
short-term
and
seasonally
issues
related
to
noise,
property
maintenance,
garbage
management,
vermin
and
fire
safety
been
brought
to
the
attention
of
city
councilors
and
the
Toronto
licensing
and
property
standards.
Staff
for
this
landlords
properties
in
at
least
three
other
neighborhoods.
P
P
This
property
owner
has
turned
to
platforms
such
as
Airbnb
and
housing,
dot-com
to
rent
rooms
short-term
in
the
peak
summer
season
and
flats
that
were
previously
rented
as
apartment.
It
appears
that
people
were
moved
around
to
the
landlord's
various
properties
using
the
online
booking
platforms
for
international
promotion,
then
dispatching
renters
to
rooms
and
apartments
in
unlisted
houses.
P
One
telltale
sign
of
the
short-term
rental
activity
for
those
of
us
living
nearby
was
the
presence
of
bare
mattresses
dropped
off
on
porches
or
on
lawns,
as
well
as
washed
linens
hanging
on
clotheslines
and
garbage
and
left
over
furniture
abandoned
in
front
and
back
yards
over
June,
July
and
August
of
this
year.
The
property
next
to
ours
housed
up
to
nine
young
people
from
outside
of
the
country.
The
tenants
rented
by
the
room
each
paying
the
landlord
directly
sharing
kitchen
and
bathrooms.
P
These
tenants
began
their
stay
in
Toronto
in
the
same
owner,
so-called
budget
Airbnb
rooms
in
a
house
several
blocks
away.
Only
after
tenants
left
at
the
end
of
the
summer
and
after
numerous
complaints
were
made
to
the
city.
Did
we
learn
that
the
house
had
been
operated
as
an
illegal
rooming
house?
Please.
P
P
E
E
Would
you
want
your
neighbors
to
let
you
know
that
they're
thinking
about
going
there
B&B
platform,
like
you
know
one
or
two
or
three
houses
down
and
say,
come
over
to
say,
listen
I'm
having
some
financial
difficulties
I
want
to
make
some
extra
money
whatever
that
I'm
thinking
of
going
to
air
B&B?
Would
you
appreciate
that
from
your
neighbor
I
would.
P
B
P
I
I
agreed
that
there
is
a
lack
of
long-term,
affordable,
long
term
housing
within
Toronto,
a
fact
that
I
am
faced
with
every
day
as
I
assist
members
of
our
community.
Through
my
work,
my
Airbnb
listing
is
not
suitable
for
a
long-term
permanent
rental,
as
I
frequently
block
out
dates
for
visiting
family
and
friends.
My
listing,
on
the
other
hand,
is
available
for
affordable,
short-term
housing,
which
is
also
needed
by
citizens
of
Toronto
newcomers
to
Canada
and
tourists.
I
Having
a
self-contained
fully
furnished
apartment
with
a
full
kitchen
and
laundry
facilities
gives
these
people
what
they
need
to
continue
on
with
their
lives
with
little
or
no
interruption
at
all,
as
it
is
a
service
in
high
demand.
I
would
like
to
share
a
couple
of
the
many
examples
of
how
a
short-term
rental
enhances
the
lives
in
this
sharing
economy.
In
July
of
this
year,
I
had
a
couple
stay
with
me
for
one
month,
Shaun
lives
in
New
Jersey,
while
his
husband
Gabriel
lives
in
South
America.
I
Due
to
the
travel
ban,
Gabriel
was
not
able
to
enter
the
United
States
to
end
with
his
husband.
They
met
in
Canada
and
shared
four
wonderful
weeks
together
in
my
home,
without
the
valuable
service
of
short-term
rentals
through
Airbnb
and
similar
platforms.
This
couple
would
not
have
had
what
sorry
would
have
had
to
postpone
their
trip
to
a
more
durable,
more
affordable
time
of
year
or
may
not
have
been
able
to
be
together
at
all.
Hotels
in
Toronto,
especially
during
pry,
are
extraordinarily
expensive
by
booking
a
short-term
to
stay.
I
In
my
unit,
this
lovely
couple
were
able
to
get
a
maximum
amount
of
time
together
and
I
am
beyond
proud.
That
I
was
I
was
able
to
help.
I
was
able
to
provide
that
for
them.
Families
are
constantly
immigrating
to
Canada
for
a
better
life.
I
had
the
honor
of
hosting
a
family
from
India
who
stayed
with
me
for
one
month,
while
they
searched
for
work
and
long-term
accommodations.
I
J
Thank
you
for
your
your
comments
on
so
for
someone
in
your
let's
say
in
your
situation:
if
there
are
other
people
that
own
their
own
secondary
units
like
yourself
and
they
have
to
choose
between
whether
they'll
make
their
unit
available
on
a
long-term
basis
or
on
a
short-term
basis,
from
an
economic
point
of
view,
you
think
that
might
drive
people
to
opt
for
short
term
versus
long
term
rental
like
I'm
thinking.
What
are
they?
J
What
are
the
likely
competitive
rates
like
if
somebody
let's
say
is,
has
to
look
at
renting
their
secondary
unit
of
1500
a
month,
let's
say,
but
on
a
short-term
basis,
they
might
be
able
to
rent
it
at
a
higher
rate.
I,
don't
know,
I'm
just
wondering
whether
that
would
push
people
away
from
giving
long
term
rental
or
providing
long
term
rental.
I
I
Think
there's
benefits
to
short-term
rentals
I,
for
one
would
not
want
to
be
a
full-time
landlord.
Just
as
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
headaches
involved
and
if
there
ever
came
a
point
where
you
wanted,
the
the
tenant
out,
for
whatever
reason
not
paying
rent
is
a
very,
very
difficult
thing
going
through
and
tenant
tribunal.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I
choose
not
to
not
to
rent
long
term
are.
J
I
E
E
C
G
My
name
is
Zach
Manuel,
it's
and
I'm
the
president
of
the
Home
Sharing
Service
Providers,
where
the
coming
together
of
several
Toronto
based
businesses
that
provide
dedicated
property
management
services
for
roughly
500
units
in
the
short-term
and
medium-term
rental
market
across
the
Greater
Toronto
Area.
Our
membership
subscribes
to
a
core
set
of
service
delivery
principles.
So,
for
example,
we
do
do
some
guest
vetting
services
to
make
sure
our
primary
users
aren't
partners
as
well
is
everything
ok.
G
Thanks
so
we
subscribe
to
a
core
set
of
service
delivery
principles,
so,
for
instance,
we
do
guest
vetting
to
make
sure
our
primary
users
aren't
partying
and
we
have
noise
sensors
in
our
unit.
So
if
noise
events
do
happen,
we
actually
have
data
from
these
noise
answers
to
show
that
96%
of
the
time
we
can
calm
down
noise
events
within
an
hour,
so
we're
in
support
of
regulation
in
theory
and
taxes
in
theory.
G
If
it
is
done
correctly,
however,
after
doing
a
jurisdictional
scan,
we
have
concerns
that
the
proposal
will
not
achieve
the
result
that
seeks
so
we
did
a
jurisdictional
scan.
We
looked
at
numerous
North
American
cities
and
it
seems
as
though
the
regulation
of
commercial
operators
causes
one
of
two
things
to
happen.
Either
our
industry
is
recognized.
Some
form
of
a
commercial
operators
licenses
created
in
our
industry
can
be
taxed
to
produce
a
net
economic
benefit
for
the
city
or
regulation.
G
Targeting
commercial
operators
has
created,
an
expensive
enforcement
body
is
set
up,
the
industry
does
not
comply
and
the
city
essentially
drives
the
economic
activity
underground.
The
proposed
regulation
currently
falls
into
the
latter
category
and
an
example
of
this
would
be
New
York,
so
New
York
has
an
outright
ban
on
short-term
rental
activity.
They've
got
roughly
36
full-time
staffers
dedicated
to
enforcement,
and
what
you're
seeing
is
there's
still
7400
fully
active
listings.
G
I,
don't
mean
listings
that
are
just
up,
I
mean
listings
with
open
calendars
being
frequently
booked
and
there
isn't
a
huge
headway
really
going
on
here.
Some
North
American
best
practice
cities
have
created
licenses
that
are
principal
residence
licenses,
but
it's
accompanied
by
some
form
of
a
commercial
operator
license.
So
that
way
we
can
drive
compliance
a
lot
higher
I
want
to
go
through
more
cities,
but
in
the
interest
of
time,
looking
around
North
America,
it's
rational
to
expect
that
Toronto's
compliance
rate
would
hover
around
10%,
which
means
the
industry
simply
wouldn't
comply
with
it.
G
With
other
North
American
seeds
have
used
more
of
a
commercial
operator
license.
Compliance
can
actually
achieve
close
to
a
hundred
percent,
which
I
think
is
better
because
we
want
to
create
regulation
that
people
ultimately
follow.
This
is
a
very
complicated
issue
and
it
touches
numerous
different
categories.
G
I
understand
two
years
have
already
gone
into
it:
I'm
gonna
wrap
up,
don't
worry,
and
if
we
look
at
other
cities
LA's
and
their
fourth
year
of
looking
at
this
issue,
San
Diego
three
years
Austin,
which
created
I,
guess
the
shining
example
of
regulations
industry
before
it
got
reversed
at
a
later
time,
because
their
government
changed
they.
It
took
them
four
and
a
half
to
five
years
to
create
it.
So
there's
no
shame
in
being
able
to
take
a
step
back.
Look
at
all
the
data
come
with
the
most
rational
arguments.
G
E
G
E
E
G
The
history
books
are
riddled
with
examples
like
this.
A
good
example
is
New
Orleans
that,
before
initiating
a
commercial
operators
license
the
economic
it
caused
enough
of
a
black
market
that
it
caused
the
whole
city
to
reconsider
everything
and
institute
a
commercial
operator
license.
The
city
of
Portland
has
a
compliance
rate
of
roughly
8%
Santa
Monica
spent
a
million
dollars
to
catch
one
person
for
a
two
thousand
dollar.
Fine,
the
history
books
are
reeled
with
examples
where
the
regulation
just
doesn't
achieve
its
intended
consequences.
Okay,.
Q
Morning,
council
members,
my
name
is
Jennifer
Graham
and
I'm.
An
Airbnb
host
in
Ward
17
I'm
come
this
morning
to
share
my
experiences
with
you
and
to
yeah
my
husband
that
I
have
been
renting
our
unit
in
our
house
since
last
December,
and
it's
been
a
great
experience
for
us
and
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
continue
and
I
was
troubled.
Q
Yesterday,
when
I
heard
the
news
that
there's
been
a
potential
mixing
of
the
possibility
of
having
a
short-term
rental
in
a
secondary
unit
in
our
house,
my
husband
and
I
live
on
the
second
floor
and
we
rent
out
when
we're
not
using
the
main
floor.
We
rent
that
out
on
Airbnb
for
us
the
possibility
of
not
being
able
to
do
that
is.
Is
it
I,
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
do?
Q
If,
if
we
are
looking
at
the
possibility
of
having
children
in
the
future,
it's
just
a
great
option
to
be
able
to
know
that
we
have
that
flexibility
to
use
the
space
and
take
that
space
back
full
time
if
we
need
to
in
the
next
year
or
two
so
another
point
I
just
wanted
to
make
as
far
as
secondary
unit
is
that
we
have
no
problems
with
any
nuisance.
With
our
neighbors
we've
had
in
one
year,
we've
had
zero
complaints
from
neighbors.
We
live
upstairs.
Q
Q
Another
point
that
I
just
want
to
make
is
yeah
as
far
as
licensing
and
the
fees
that
have
been
presented.
I
think
that
those
sound,
fair
and
I'm
in
favor
of
those
yeah
I
think
that,
just
in
general,
it's
a
great
option
to
have
spaces
that
are
in
residential
areas
such
as
ours,
because
a
lot
of
people
that
come
and
stay
with
us
do
have
family
that
live
nearby
and
they're.
Q
Looking
for
someplace
close
by
a
lot
of
people
are
in
situation
as
my
husband
and
I,
where
they
do
not
have
a
secondary
room
or
any
place
to
host
people.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
rent
our
space
in
order
to
stay
nearby
to
their
family
members.
So
yeah,
it's
just
been
a
really
great
opportunity,
let
alone
the
fact
that
we've
met
many
wonderful
people
and
it's
just
been
personally
a
great
experience
for
us.
So
thank
you
so
much
thank.
C
C
Q
And
when
my
when
my
husband
was
a
bachelor
before
we
got
married
and
before
I
moved
in,
he
did
rent
to
it,
but
now
there
were
a
family,
we
don't
have.
We
just
need
more
space.
We
don't
have
the
option
of
having
a
long-term
tenant.
As
I
stated,
we
don't
have
any
extra
space
upstairs,
and
so
we
rely
on
the
use
of
that
space
for
hosting
my
parents
live
out
of
town,
his
parents
at
the
vet
of
town
and
many
other
family
members.
So.
C
Q
C
Q
If
we
were
in
a
position
where
we
weren't
able
to
rent
our
secondary
suite,
if
we
had
to
switch
to
doing
a
long-term
rental
it
we
would
have
to
move
somewhere
else.
We
just
we
don't.
We
couldn't
have
a
long-term
tenant
and
then
also
live
upstairs.
How
we
do
right
now
we
need
to
have
to
take
over
both
if
we
weren't
able
to
do
Airbnb
or
we'd
have
to
I,
don't
know,
maybe
raise
the.
Q
C
R
Morning,
good
morning,
Melanie
I'm
here
on
a
slightly
different
note:
I'm
a
business
owner.
We
have
a
little
bistro
on
the
Danforth
at
1870
Danforth
and
we
do
not
host
anybody,
but
we
definitely
host
the
customers
that
use
the
air
in
a
B&B
around
us.
We
being
a
little
neighborhood
restaurant
and
a
little
remove
from
the
downtown
Pole.
E
R
E
There's
a
proposal
that
we
charge
4%
destination
tax
for
hotels
that
will
go
to
promote
the
business
you're
in
favor.
Of
that
correct
I
mean
if
you
want
to
propose
your
budget
to
support
your
business
and
and
support
Toronto.
Would
you
be
in
favor
of
that
of
us
doing
it
it's
in
the
books
right
now,
probably
okay.
E
R
You
advertise
for
Toronto,
they
do
not
come
to
small
neighborhoods.
They
live
in
the
downtown
core
there
anyway,
going
to
all
the
attractions
that
are
in
the
downtown
core
I,
don't
think
a
neighborhood
like
ours
has
attractions,
and
so
in
fact,
I
think
people
you're
have
the
opportunity
come
and
neighborhoods
that
they
would
otherwise
not
have
the
opportunities.
R
E
R
E
R
N
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
councillors
good
morning
got
great
to
be
here
and
having
the
chance
to
speak
about
short-term
rentals
I'm,
the
vice
president
of
policy
for
Toronto
region,
Board
of
Trade
we're
founded
in
1845.
We
have
12,000
members
and
we
have
the
vision
to
make
Toronto
one
of
the
most
competitive
and
sought-after
businesses
in
the
world.
We
believe
that
regulations
should
be
clear,
concise
and
similar,
understand.
I,
think
we
agree
with
the
principles
that
were
put
forward
by
the
staff
earlier
today.
N
In
the
document
we
have
I
want
to
provide
a
bit
of
a
broader
perspective
on
the
importance
of
sometimes
controversial
subject
of
short-term
rentals.
Our
perspective
is
grounded
in
our
vision
statement
of
the
belief
that
Toronto
has
become
a
global
city.
It's
now
larger
than
Chicago,
and
just
behind
Mexico
New,
York
and
Los
Angeles
in
North
America.
We
need
to
act
like
a
global
city,
embracing
innovation
and
the
sharing
economy
and
I
will
note.
N
Airbnb
and
similar
platforms
are,
we
believe,
innovators,
and
we
should
embrace
that
innovation
while
ensuring
we
have
the
balanced
regulation
that
we
need
and
follow
the
principles
laid
out
by
the
city
staff.
So
the
board's
bottom
line
is
that
we
would
like
to
see
as
much
innovation
flexibility
options
as
possible
in
Toronto's
accommodations
market
and
to
deliver
that
clear,
reasonable
regulation,
which
is
the
path
recommended
by
the
bylaw
that
we
have
under
consideration,
I,
have
four
points.
I
would
like
to
make
quickly.
First,
we
need
flexible
accommodations
option
for
you.
N
Come
they're
110,000
newcomers
moving
into
the
region
every
year,
which
is
a
huge
benefit
to
us.
We
need
to
provide
those
newcomers
with
a
variety
of
accommodation
options.
Secondly,
we
want
affordable
options
for
tourists,
an
important
and
growing
market
for
the
Toronto
region,
particularly
given
the
oppressive
increase
in
the
number
of
tourists
from
Asia.
If
you
looked
at
the
recent
numbers
from
tourism
Toronto
in
the
wake
of
China's
granting
approved
destination
status
to
Canada
the
third,
we
need
to
attract
and
retain
talent.
In
fact,
talent
is
one
of
the
three
T's.
N
That's
our
policy
manner
of
trade,
transportation
and
talent
and
for
Toronto
rich
border
trade
has
recently
completed
two
unique
three-part
series
in
young
professionals.
In
fact,
it's
been
featured
in
the
Toronto
Star
this
week
in
past
weeks,
looking
at
the
person
looking
at
the
perceptions
for
young
professionals
and
their
expectations,
the
housing
market
based
on
a
survey
of
800
young
professionals
in
the
Toronto
region.
N
High
housing
costs
make
it
hard
for
young
professionals
even
to
save
for
retirement
and
repay
debt,
with
33%
expecting
to
receive
financial
assistance
from
friends
or
family
to
finance
the
purchase
is
that's
a
lot
of
help
from
the
bank
of
mom
and
dad,
and
we
think
that
the
short
term
short
term
rental
can
give
young
professionals
in
every
young
and
other
young
people
additional
income
needed
to.
Thank
you
deal
with
that
cost
of
housing.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
G
C
Is
the
Toronto
you
are
the
vice
president
Atlanta
laboratory,
which
world
trade?
Yes,
we
use
supportive
recommendations
that
are
before
us
in
terms
of
the
short-term
rentals,
including
secondary
suites,
and
and
if
so,
if
you
can
expand
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
the
benefits
to
the
city.
If
that
wasn't
the
case
as.
N
I
mentioned
mr.
chair,
we
support
broadly
the
the
the
the
principles
and
the
conditions
laid
down
in
the
document
we
have
before
us.
I,
don't
think
how
our
membership
is
particularly
interested
in
the
weeds
they're,
seeing
an
opportunity,
they're,
seeing
global
transformation
by
players
such
as
Airbnb
and
its
other
competitors
by
the
sharing
economy
in
general.
So
we
think
the
broad
tableau
is
attractive
to
a
growing
city.
A
global
city
like
Toronto
we're
a
little
less
concerned
about
we've
heard
a
lot
about
secondary
Suites
and
so
on.
Our
membership
is
looking
at.
S
Good
morning
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
I
was
here
yesterday
had
a
chance
to
speak,
identify
what
we
do
in
terms
of
our
home
sharing
activities.
First
of
all,
I
live
in
my
wife
and
I
have
a
house
in
cliff
Christ
community
Ward
36
we've
lived
there
for
32
years
raised
two
children.
There
we've
been
very
active
with
our
community
over
the
years
and.
S
Lena
and
I
right
now,
we
struggled
to
make
ends
meet.
We
struggle
to
keep
pay
the
bills
and
all
the
costs
to
continue
to
live
in
our
house,
and
it's
our
hope
that
we
can
remain
living
in
Toronto.
We
were
born
and
raised
here.
We
love
the
city,
we
love
our
community
and
we
were
sort
of
struck
with
some
unfortunate
luck
number
of
years
ago
when
we
lost
our
career
jobs
and
when
you
have
good
income
things
sail
along
nicely.
You
know
really
don't
give
any
thought
to.
S
You
know
five
dollars
ten
dollars
here,
but
when
you're
confronted
at
the
age
of
fifty
with
losing
your
income,
which
was
roughly
120
thousand
a
year,
it's
a
scary
proposition
because
at
the
age
of
50
you're,
not
thinking
about
starting
a
new
career,
it
kind
of
hopefully
thinking
about
retirement,
so
to
make
a
long
story
short
about
four
years.
After
that
we
started
home.
Sharing,
we've
been
home
sharing
for
four
years
now.
S
S
One
of
the
concerns
I
expressed
is
the
obliteration
of
what
were
once
traditional
starter
homes
in
our
community
and
that's
what
got
us
into
the
housing
market.
32
years
ago
there
were
small
small
bungalows
on
large
lots
and
those
those
homes
are
being
obliterated
so
just
to
give
a
little
background,
my
involvement
so
I
had
a
meeting
with
Josh.
S
We
had
a
great
meeting
was
an
hour
down
on
Bay
Street
and
then
a
part
of
that
discussion
was
the
discussion
about
the
provinces,
Affordable
Housing
Act,
and
what
Josh
indicated
to
me
because
I
said
you
know
we
want
to
stay
in
the
city
or
keep
her
house.
How
do
we
do
like?
What
do
we
do
so
he
identified
the
affordable
housing
act
and
that's
been
brought
up
here.
A
number
of
times
at
the
various
meetings
that
we've
attended.
S
C
E
You
chair,
sir
I
appreciate
the
hardships
that
you're
going
through.
But
if
you
were
a
barber,
would
you
also
run
a
barber
shop
down
in
your
basement?
Not
likely,
but
I
mean
if
you,
if
you
had
a
barber
shop
when
you
lost,
you
lost
your
business,
you
know
rent
was
too
high
and
all
that
stuff
and
time
your
customers
still
wanted
to
continue.
I.
E
S
E
E
C
D
S
D
D
S
D
S
D
Yeah,
so
with
that,
so
if
secondary
Suites
weren't
allowed,
if
we
sort
of
followed
planning
and
gross
lead
and
I'm
I'm,
a
little
unsure,
I
think
we
kind
of
had
because
I
think
these
things
were,
that
recommendation
was
deleted,
but
if
we
were
to
follow
that
lead,
that
would
be
problematic
for
you
absolutely
okay.
Thank
you.
D
H
Our
members
represent
over
350,000
units,
province-wide
staff
report-
specifically
that's
before
you
today
was
before
the
Planning
Committee
yesterday
specifically
recommends
a
multi
residential
rental
units
be
allowed
to
operate
as
short-term
rentals
I'd
like
to
offer
a
couple
of
comments
on
the
report
to
clarify
some
of
the
misconceptions:
the
rental
Tenancies
Act,
which
is
the
RTA,
governs
all
landlord
and
tenant
issues
in
the
province.
The
RTA,
for
example,
prohibits
security
deposits
of
any
kind,
and
we
know
that
some
of
the
short-term
rental
sites
require
that,
so
that
would
be
illegal
under
the
RTA.
H
For
example,
there
is
a
you
can't
ask
for
obviously
last
month's
rent,
but
other
security
deposits
are
illegal.
The
report
before
you
states
that
tenants
would
not
require
landlord
approval
to
rent
their
unit.
This
is
false.
The
RTA
specifically
requires
landlord
approval
to
sublet
an
apartment.
This
raises
serious
questions
for
renters
registering
with
the
city
and
not
having
received
prior
approval
and
the
question
of
enforcement
around
this
is
raised.
H
The
RTA
also
prohibits
charging
more
in
rent
for
a
unit
than
a
tenant
actually
pay,
so
the
person
that
subletting
can't
pay
more
than
the
person
that's
there
so,
for
example,
and
Darryl
Darryl
Chong
after
me,
from
GTA
we'll
talk
about
this
at
the
tennis
paying
$1,200
a
month,
for
example,
in
a
apartment,
that's
$40
a
night.
They
can't
charge
any
more
than
that
again.
The
question
is
who
enforces
that
in
terms
of
the
payment
I
want
to
pick
up
on
something
councilor
DiGiorgio
talked
about,
because
it's
a
really
serious
issue
facing
our
city.
H
We
face
a
housing
crisis
at
a
time
when
Toronto
is
having
a
lack
of
supply,
it
seems
odd
that
the
city
is
formalizing
ways
to
take
needed
rental
units
out
of
the
market.
The
vacancy
rate
in
the
city
is
1.3
percent,
we'll
get
numbers
from
CMHC.
The
first
week
of
December
will
be
below
1
percent,
and
the
comment
that
was
made
by
one
of
the
earlier
presenters
used
to
be
long
term.
Now,
I'm
doing
a
short
term,
I
saw
somebody
on
the
weekend
with
two
condominiums
in
blue
or
blue
or
West.
H
He
used
to
put
them
long
term
now
he's
putting
them
into
short
term.
We
have
a
real
problem
here
of
less
supply,
which
is
gonna,
be
mess
rental
and
it's
a
it's
a
real
concern,
as
people
have
options
now
to
go
short
term
as
opposed
to
long
term
and
actually
don't
think
that's
gonna
benefit
tenants
at
all
because
of
the
powers
and
and
the
rules
that
are
in
place
to
protect
them
under
the
RTA
anyway.
My
time
is
is
nearly
done
so
I.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
be
pleased
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
E
I
I
take
it
that
you're
supporting
a
long
term
rentals
and
not
taking
the
affordable
housing
out
of
them
out
of
the
market.
Would
it
be
correct?
Yes,
okay,
let
me
share
some
numbers
with
you
and
everyone's
gonna
go
slow
down.
So
you
see,
besides
what
you're
supporting
we're,
also
standing
to
lose
close
to
ten
thirty
million
dollars
and
I'm
just
going
to
read
you
the
numbers
and
then
you
can
agree
or
disagree
or
whatever.
If
we're
allowing
180
nights
on
Airbnb
at
$100
a
night,
that's
$18,000,
13
percent
HST!
E
That's
two
thousand
three
hundred
and
forty
dollars
per
house,
ten
thousand
air
being
units.
That's
twenty
three
million
dollars
in
HST!
That's
number
one
money
that
we
can
use
somewhere
else.
The
same
thing
with
the
City
of
Toronto
at
4%
tax.
The
city
is
going
to
lose
seven
million,
so
I'm
glad
that
you're
supporting
us
not
to
lose
the
secondary
Suites
that
we
can
rent
out
to
people.
But
if
we're
losing
thirty
million
dollars
because
of
Airbnb,
how
does
that
gonna
impact
the
people
renters?
E
H
H
D
H
Concerns
the
concern
is
that
some
of
the
comments
that
are
in
the
staff
report
are
inaccurate
as
they
deal
with
the
landlord
tenant
relationship
because
of
the
Residential
Tenancies
Act,
for
example,
prior
approval
landlord
to
sublet,
so
I
want
to
bring
that
to
the
attention
of
you
and
of
the
committee,
so
that
is
required
in
order
for
any
sublet.
My
understanding
is
that
provincial
law
supersedes
a
municipal
bylaw,
so
there
are
a
number
of
things
in
there
for
the
charging
the
security
deposits.
H
All
these
things
are
stated
in
the
RTA,
and
you
know
television
won't
get
into
so
that
that's
one
aspect
of
it
in
terms
of
raising
those
concerns,
and
so
what
we're
saying
is
that
you
know
cities
should
go
back
and
have
consultations
around
that
in
terms
of
how
it
deals
with
purpose-built
rental.
The
second
part
of
it
is
just
a
statement
around
supply,
which
is
the
city's
facing
a
housing
crisis.
H
D
Okay,
so
so,
okay,
the
first
part
I
mean
they
can
they
can
I,
understand
I
kind
of
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
the
second
part
you're
you're
worried
about
supply
right,
okay,
so
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
getting
my
head
around
and
just
I
mean
no
disrespect,
but
you
don't
normally
come
to
depute
on
behalf
of
renters
you're.
On
the
other
side,
aren't
you
well.
H
H
D
Does
that
have
to
do
with
air
B&B
or
Home
Sharing
I,
understand
your
issues
and
I
totally
agree
with
you,
I
mean
we
can
get
into
the
whole
discussion
about
rent
control
and
everything.
Different
discussion,
I
just
understand,
don't
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
how
this
applies
to
Home,
Sharing
and
and
in
your
you.
H
H
C
Thank
you,
I
do
have
a
question.
Is
you
mentioned
that
housing?
Affordability
is
an
issue
in
that's
a
big
issue
and
we
all
know
that
and
we
understand
the
nature
of
the
problem
and
the
vacancy
rate
right
now.
It's
1.3,
which
is
percent-
that's
the
lowest
in
many
many
years,
but
to
bring
this
into
perspective.
C
H
H
You
have
an
affordability
issue
and
you
have
an
issue
that
a
lot
of
Deputies
have
talked
to,
which
is
an
issue
around
population
growth
in
terms
of
immigration
in
terms
of
non
permanent
residence
in
terms
of
others
that
are
coming
from
other
parts
of
the
country.
So
you
have
a
population
growth
you
have
household
size
is
getting
smaller.
You
have
an
affordability
crisis
all
coming
together
and
leading
to
real
challenges
on
the
housing
market.
We
should
be
encouraging
more
supply,
no.
C
I
understand
and
I
think
that
we
are
all
aiming
for
that,
but
my
point
and
I
want
a
little
clarity
from
from
what
you
said
is
in
the
mid
nineties
when
we
had
secondary
Suites
and
the
vacancy
rate,
as
I
mentioned
before
it
was
6%
so
trying
to
understand
the
rationale
in
terms
of
its
fear-mongering
or
are
we
dealing
with
factual
information?
I
mean.
H
Mean
the
issue
on
that
is:
there's
a
difference
between
purpose-built
rental
in
terms
of
who
we
represent
and
how
the
proper
policies
in
place
for
approve
of
the
sublet
that
versus
somebody
who
has
their
own
home,
because
it's
bylaw
affects
a
principal
residence
only
who
wants
to
rent
out
a
room
or
a
basement
or
whatever
that's
a
different
dynamic
in
terms
of
a
different
housing
stock.
This
bylaw
is
more
directed
towards
single-family,
home
or
condominium
than
it
is
purpose-built
rental.
My
comments
are
related
at
purpose-built
rental.
Is
it
don't.
C
H
C
J
Question
relates
to
this
whole
concept
of
purpose-built
rental.
Housing
I
mean
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
as
I
understand.
It
anyway,
is
that
when
we
talk
about
building
purpose
personal
rental
housing,
it
is
in
the
affordability
range
I
find
that
very
few
people
are
building
purpose-built
rental,
housing
and
the
high
range.
Would
you
agree
with
me
that
there's.
J
H
Know
I
mean
somebody
owns
a
unit
you're
saying
it
only
can
be
the
principle
residence
so
for
the
condominium
sector,
a
lot
of
people
have
one
or
two
units,
so
that's
gonna
be
impacted.
They
may
not
be
able
to
rent
them
or
to
put
them
in
air
B&B,
because
it's
only
principle,
that's
gonna
have
to
be
enforced
by
the
city,
and
so
that
may
have
an
impact.
H
I
rent
it-
and
so
you
know,
are
those
people
like
the
the
gentleman
I
met
from
Bloor
West
who's
got
to
kind
of
maze
and
now
gonna
put
them
into
short
term
as
opposed
to
long
term.
I
mean
in
a
sense
they're,
not
really
our
members.
So
I,
don't
you
don't
have
a
viewing
up,
but
they
do
have
a
view
overall
about
public
policy
and
wanting
more
housing,
not
less
and
wanting
more
affordable
housing
and
not
less
yeah.
C
C
N
Conference
in
Toronto
with
the
Toronto
schools,
so
I
just
need
to
get
back,
so
I
can
do
my
presentation.
So
thank
you
for
being
so
accommodating
I'd,
like
to
begin
by
acknowledging
that
we
are
in
the
dish's
territories
in
Mississauga,
First
Nations
and
you
credit
and
Haudenosaunee
we
should
come
down,
might
be.
N
The
reason
why
I'm
speaking
today
is
to
support
the
proposals
by
the
city
staff
with
a
couple
exemptions,
especially
because
of
the
service
that
Airbnb
and
similar
agencies
do.
The
truth
is
LGBTQ,
especially
queer
and
trans
youth
are
some
of
the
highest,
and
most
at-risk
persons
in
the
City
of
Toronto
and
Airbnb
has
frankly
saved
people's
lives.
These
short-term
rentals
provide
an
escape
for
young
people
who
are
escaping
violence
and
oppression
from
their
families
or
their
home
situations.
And,
frankly,
we
don't
have
enough
salt
shelters
that
are
safe.
N
We
don't
have
enough
youth
beds
that
are
safe
for
LGBTQ
youth
and
until
the
new
shelter
is
built,
these
provide
a
very
critical
space
for
these
young
people
as
a
charity.
We're
also
really
poor
and
hotels
in
Toronto
are
really
expensive,
especially
during
pride.
So
in
addition
to
supporting
LGBTQ
youth
charities,
like
us,
love
Airbnb,
because
we
get
to
enter
into
people's
homes
and
do
charitable
work
in
the
city
and
spend
tons
and
tons
of
money
in
the
city
of
rano,
as
well
as
have
a
safe
place
to
stay
and
meet
cool
and
exciting
people.
N
Third
were
young,
so
hashtag
innovation
hashed.
This
is
awesome.
Hashtag
get
with
of
times,
because
seriously
Toronto
needs
to
be
a
leader
in
this,
not
a
follower-
and,
let's
just
be
honest
here-
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
housing
crisis
in
the
city,
a
short-term
rental
in
someone's
home.
This
is
not
helping
the
situation
by
stopping
my
sister,
who
has
a
spare
room
who
lets
me
stay
with
her.
N
It
went
at
Christmas,
but
who
can't
host
a
rental
all
year
round,
so
I
think
we
need
to
be
honest
with
ourselves
that
displacing
the
challenges
faced
by
one
community
into
this
community
is
necessarily
the
situation.
I
do
want
to
mention
that
we
don't
like
the
180
day
rule
it's
someone's
house,
let
them
own
it
and
let
them
decide
how
to
use
that
space.
N
I
find
it
a
little
bit
offensive
that
folks
would
think
that
they
can
tell
people
how
to
use
their
spaces,
especially
because,
as
was
mentioned
by
the
previous
presenter,
the
condo
market
is
the
new
rental.
So
people
who
are
lower
and
emerging
middle
class
Torontonians
are
using
the
toronto
condo
system
to
grow
wealth
and
to
become
successful
and
productive
citizens,
and
so
we
should
not
be
punishing
them
for
it.
Also,
we
absolutely
hate
the
secondary
Suites
I
know.
J
If
I
understood
you
correctly,
you
know
it's
an
interesting
interpretation.
You
basically
said:
if
we
permit
short-term
rental
of
secondary
Suites,
we
might
in
fact
bring
on
market
more
secondary
suites.
That
will
be
rented
out
like
if
we
just
separate
the
fact
that
at
this
point
in
time,
a
lot
of
the
secondary
Suites
are
actually
rented
on
a
long-term
basis.
Did
I
understand
you
correctly.
J
You
said
you
know
what,
if,
if
we
allow,
or
at
least
put
out
there,
that
we
will
allow
people
to
rent
their
secondary
Suites
on
a
short-term
basis,
we
might
have
more
people
come
forward
to
actually
rent
Oh
absent
here
and
share
the
the
rental
of
the
room
or
assure
their
living
accommodation.
Absolutely.
N
Yeah
I
mean
a
number
of
these
secondary
Suites
end
up
becoming
long-term
rentals
on
becoming
sustainable
home
for
people.
So
absolutely,
okay,
I,
just
I,
don't
think
it's
fair
to
tell
people
how
to
live
their
lives
on
how
to
run
their
homes.
I
mean
these.
Are
it's
a
changing
economy
and
changing
times
and
I'm,
so
proud
of
the
city
is
so
progressive
in
so
many
ways.
I
also
want
to
mention
that
we
did
submit
a
written
statement.
C
M
M
M
A
problem
here,
as
you
know,
the
GTA
represents
the
providers
of
over
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
units
of
multifamily
purpose-built
rental
in
the
GTA,
with
the
vast
majority
of
those
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
Our
concern
is
that,
when
this
package
is
adopted
by
council
that
the
next
day,
the
headlines
will
simply
read
that
all
residents
of
the
city
are
now
allowed
to
get
into
short-term
rental-
and
that's
probably
what's
gonna
happen,
but
the
headlines
and
even
the
details
below
the
headlines
aren't
going
to
get
into
the
rules.
M
The
legal
rules
and
obligations
of
doing
so
not
knowing
the
law
isn't
an
excuse
for
ignoring
it,
and
we
are
governed
very
much
by
the
rent
of
the
landlord
by
the
Residential
Tenancies
Act,
also
known
as
the
RTA
2006,
and
the
city
needs
to
be
very
clear
about
the
interplay
of
allowing
short-term
rentals
across
the
city
and
the
interplay
with
the
RTA
and
the
obligations
that
are
in
the
RTA.
My
previous
to
Jim
spoke
about
some
of
these
provisions,
simply
a
couple
them
that
he
said.
I'll
reiterate
security
deposits
not
allowed
under
the
RTA.
M
If
you
go
to
any
of
the
short-term
rental
sites,
security
deposits
are
listed
not
allowed
under
the
RTA.
A
tenant
cannot
legally
charge
more
than
they
pay
for
rent.
Again.
The
example
in
my
submission
is
typical:
rent
of
twelve
hundred
dollars
a
month
divided
by
roughly
thirty
days
a
month,
is
forty
bucks,
a
night,
so
you're
breaking
the
provisions
of
the
law.
If
you
charge
more
than
that,
this
doesn't
even
mention
the
rents
that
are
paid
and
in
subsidized
housing.
So
for
those
rents,
it's
the
actual
rgi
amount.
M
That's
paid
divided
by
thirty
days
a
month
under
the
RTA.
The
tenants
required
to
obtain
landlord
consent
before
subletting,
also
in
the
act.
So
in
the
city
staff
report,
I,
don't
see
any
of
this
interplay
mentioned.
Our
recommendation
is
the
city
as
it
proceeds
with
this.
Is
that
it's
very
clear
that
there
are
other
rules
and
obligations.
I
think
it
was
slide
number
eight
that
I
saw
in
the
staff
presentation.
That
said,
fire
code,
Ontario,
Building
Code,
and
then
it
stopped
nowhere
in
the
report.
M
Does
it
specifically
say-
and
you
must
follow
the
rules
in
the
provincial
ii
mandated
Residential
Tenancies
Act,
so
we'd
like
that
to
be
first
and
foremost
an
up
front,
and
everyone
understand
what
that
means
without
doing
that,
you're
kind
of
endorsing
something
without
telling
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
the
city,
what
the
PlayBook
is
and
they
could
be
unwillingly
or
unknowingly,
breaking
the
law
and
forcing
the
hands
of
eviction.
So
that's
very
important,
a
couple
other
things
that
the
the
staff
report
doesn't
do
and
maybe
it'll
do
later.
M
It
doesn't
detail
the
process
to
deal
with
nuisances
complaints.
You
know,
if
all
of
a
sudden
there's
a
noise
complaint,
does
the
the
responsibility
lend
on
the
operator
or
land
on
the
owner
of
the
building,
which
is
an
issue
for
us,
and
it
doesn't
doesn't
mention
anything
about
insurance.
I
know
all
your
sharing
stuff
requires
insurance.
We
we
always
recommend
to
tenants
that
they
get
insurance.
The
Insurance
Bureau
of
Canada
does
the
same.
The
city's
Office
of
Emergency
Management
does
the
same,
but
the
reports
silent
on
that
those
things
are
included.
Thank
you.
Any.
M
M
E
E
M
M
E
M
If
you're
the
landlord
and
you're
and
you're
saying
that
you're
giving
consent
to
sublet
that
sublet
would
be
based
on
all
the
other
conditions
contained
in
the
RTA
and
that
would
and
one
of
those
conditions,
is
you
don't
rent
it
out
for
more
than
you're
paying?
Thank
you
I
suppose
you
would
be.
Thank
you
any.
M
It's
you
know
it's
we're
kind
of
sitting
on
not
sitting
on
the
fence.
We,
we
don't
typically
support
things.
Well,
we
can't
support
anything
that
breaks
the
law
and
the
way
the
staff
report
is
written
without
being
more
clear,
inclusive
of
regulations
under
the
RTA.
That
means
we're
endorsing
something:
that's
not
cool,
eagle,
II
compliant,
so
we
can't
endorse.
C
M
Mean
I,
we
sit
on
the
fence
because
I
can't
say
we
endorse
what
you're
doing
because
of
those
the
rules
that
you're
not
speaking
clearly
about,
but
once
you
address
those
we
understand
that
this
is
coming.
We
understand
that
we're
not
going
to
stop
this
new
disruptive
technology,
and
it's
here
to
stay.
It's
probably
going
to
grow.
M
M
We're
only
sitting
on
the
fence
and
so
far
that
we
can't
say
we
support
the
reports
before
us,
because
the
reports
before
us
are
missing
very
valuable
information.
That's
what
if
you
address
the
concerns
regarding
the
RTA
and
the
obligations
that
are
found
in
the
RTA,
then
I
think
we're.
Okay.
Thank.
T
My
name
is
Melissa
Goldstein
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
a
group
called
housing
action
now
we're
a
coalition
of
Toronto
residents
and
community
organizations
that
advocate
for
safety
stand
and
on
floor
and
affordable
housing
for
all
Torontonians
and
I'm.
Also,
an
Airbnb
host
and
I've
been
an
Airbnb
guest
just
on
a
side
note
overall
housing
Action
now
supports
regulating
short-term
rentals
and
the
interests
of
protecting
both
the
city,
supply
of
long
term,
rental,
housing
and
the
affordability,
rental,
sorry
and
the
affordability
of
rental
housing
across
the
city.
T
The
city's
rental
vacancy
rate
is
notoriously
low
and
Torontonians
across
the
city
are
finding
it
so
difficult
to
find
places
to
live
that
they
can
afford
that
homelessness
continues
to
rise.
Young
people
can't
afford
to
move
out
of
their
parents,
homes
and
people
across
the
city
of
so
few
options
that
they
end
up
stuck
and
unpleasant
and
unsafe
living
situations.
The
rise
of
short-term
rentals
is
worsening
this
already
bad
situation
by
taking
long
term
rental
units
out
of
the
rental
market
and
by
increasing
the
value
of
rental
properties
in
particular,
neighborhoods,
thereby
further
inflating
rents.
C
T
On
top
of
this,
a
conversion
of
long
term
rental
units
to
short
term
rental
units
is
resulting
in
the
often
illegal
eviction
of
Torontonians
from
their
homes.
Low-Income
people,
students
and
families
are
being
forced
out
of
their
homes
into
the
cutthroat
rental
housing
market
in
favor
of
high-paying
tourists.
So,
while
the
city's
proposed
regulatory
framework
as
an
excellent
start,
there
are
a
few
significant
issues
with
it
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
First,
we
think
that
making
proof
of
principle
residents
that
should
be
mandatory.
T
Without
this
mandatory
proof
of
residence
requirements
inverting,
the
law
will
be
incredibly
easy
and
enforcement
of
the
bylaw
will
be
next
to
impossible,
making
the
bylaw
effective
and
because
there's
been
discussion
about
why
principal
residents
versus
one
property
per
resident
of
the
city
the
same
idea.
If
it's
one
property
per
resident
of
the
city,
it
allows,
let's
say
you've
got
a
family
of
four
people.
Then
four
people
could
each
be
renting
a
property.
T
It's
not
tied
to
their
home
it
just
it's
just
an
easy
way,
I
think
to
for
people
to
subvert
the
purpose
of
the
bylaw.
The
second
is
effective,
proactive
enforcement,
a
plan
for
the
proactive,
effective
enforcement
of
the
bylaw
must
be
developed
and
implemented
without
a
plan
to
be
proactive
about
enforcing
the.
By
lot
again,
it
will
not
be
followed
in
the
problems
the
city
is
currently
experiencing
as
a
result
of
short
term,
rentals
will
worsen
and
then,
as
was
addressed
yesterday
short
term
rental
operators
should
not
be
permitted
to
rent
out
secondary
Suites.
T
Short-Term
rental
operators
should
be
limited
to
renting
it
at
their
principal
residence.
The
short-term
rental
of
secondary
Suites
seriously
undermines
the
city's
goal
of
protecting
long-term
rental
housing
stock
in
two
ways.
First,
the
rental
of
secondary
suites
make
up
a
significant
portion
of
the
city's
rental
market,
especially
in
the
most
desirable
neighborhoods
in
the
city,
and
it's
in
these
neighborhoods,
where
a
units
are
most
at
risk
of
Georgian
rental
conversion
and
require
protection
by
the
bylaw.
Thank.
T
Name
is
Tom
wide.
It's
I'm
here
representing
fair
B&B,
which
is
a
national
coalition
of
organizations
and
groups
and
individuals
with
an
interest
in
regulating
the
emerging
short-term
rental
market.
I
want
to
make
a
few
points
here,
I
feel
there.
It's
like
an
elephant
in
the
room
that
we're
not
really
addressing.
We
talked.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
Home
Sharing,
which
I
don't
think
anyone
in
the
room
has
a
problem
with.
T
We
all
agree
that
the
Home
Sharing
has
something
to
do
with
someone
sharing
their
home,
occasionally
or
rooms
in
their
home
in
a
place
that
is
their
principal
residence.
This
will
be
around
they
will
Airbnb
will
be
around
you
know.
People
have
the
opportunity
to
find
places
on
Airbnb,
doing
major
events
doing
pride
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
T
But
what
we
need
to
be
talking
about
is
the
commercialization
that
has
gone,
has
been
going
on
under
the
umbrella
of
Home
Sharing,
and
the
city
has
done
a
tremendous
job
in
highlighting
the
fact
that
there
about
3200
properties
that
have
been
taken
off
the
long
term,
rental
market
by
absentee
landlords
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
address
in
here.
So
when
we,
when
we
listen
to
the
executives
behind
me,
we
are
really
listening
to
the
commercial
industry
that
is
talking
to
you
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
T
16%
of
the
hosts
are
these
apps
and
make
up
these
absentee
landlords.
They
are
responsible
for
about
38%
of
the
listings,
inventory
and
52%
of
the
revenue.
So
we
really
have
to
come
up
with
regulations
that
allow
us
to
tackle
this
problem,
because
what
we're
seeing
right
now
is
a
reallocation
of
rental
housing
stock
that
is
there
for
long
term,
tenants
to
live
and
work
in
the
city
to
a
short-term
rental
market
that
caters
to
tourists
and
guests.
T
T
E
T
Have
seen
that
the
hotel
industry
in
Toronto,
broadly
speaking,
has
been
doing
pretty
well,
but
what
we
have
seen
is,
since
the
2000s
that
the
growth
of
midscale
hotels
in
the
downtown
core
has
been
stagnant
and
the
growth
has
been
stagnant
in
the
downtown
core
which
has
partially
to
do
with.
If
we
look
at
where
the
hotel
rooms
in
the
downtown
core
compete
with
you
know,
they
compete
with
residential
condominium
towers
that
exist
right
across
the
street.
From
the
largest
hotels.
T
E
Your
your
hope,
the
people
that
you
represent,
will
not
be
against
making
sure
that
the
people
that
are
actually
running
the
the
Airbnb
or
any
other
platform
like
this.
They
go
under
the
same
regulations
or
your
folks.
Getting
police
clearance,
making
sure
that
the
people
that
are
going
in
there
into
people
that
are
arriving
to
use
their
home,
they're,
safe
and
a
lot
of
hotel
operators
I
mean
they're.
There's
no
ghosts
there.
There's
people
there
24/7
so
would
I
mean.
E
T
I
think
if
this
requirement
is
something
that
actually
has
teeth
by
ensuring
that
those
folks
that
run
a
host,
a
short-term
rental
property
have
to
show
up
front
that
they
are
actually
the
person
that
live
in
this
building
I
think
we
would
avoid
a
lot
of
the
health
and
safety
issues
that
we
have
seen
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
with
illegal
hotels,
popping
up
that
are
essentially
death
traps
and
fire
hazards
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
Thank
you.
C
O
O
Name
is
Jessica
historic
and
I'm,
a
renter
in
April
2016,
my
partner
and
I
moved
into
a
38
kensington
place
with
three
other
friends.
We
were
both
students
and
we
chose
a
location
due
to
proximity
to
the
University
as
well:
the
vibrant
diversity
in
the
building
and
neighborhood.
We
were
friends
with
other
units
and
many
of
us
worked
in
nearby
restaurants,
businesses
and
institutions
in
the
neighborhood.
Some
of
us
were
members
of
the
LGBTQ
population,
a
community
that
often
phases
housing
and
security
and
discrimination.
O
Unfortunately,
our
building
was
one
of
five
Kensington
properties
sold
to
a
new
property
owner
almost
immediately.
We
faced
intimidation,
harassment
and
threats
of
illegal
rent
hikes
and
illegal
eviction.
The
landlord
claimed
he
was
moving
in
family
members,
which
was
untrue.
We
did
not
feel
safe
in
our
homes
and
we
did
not
have
the
timer
means
to
take
her
case
to
lunch
and
board
I
thought
those
forced
to
leave
my
home
or
see
my
school
work
and
education
suffer.
We
had
to
move
which
divided
our
families
and
was
both
incredibly
stressful
and
costly.
O
We
left
September
2016
and
the
unit's
remained
empty
for
many
many
months
over
the
winter
in
May
2017,
our
unit
had
been
put
up
on
Airbnb
in
preparation
for
the
lucrative
summer
months.
I
have
looked
over
the
city's
proposal.
I
am
extremely
grateful.
The
city
is
taking
the
housing
supplies
issue
seriously.
I
would
like
to
reiterate
some
of
the
proposals
made
by
other
organizations,
firstly,
making
proof
of
principle
residents
mandatory.
Second,
second,
effective,
proactive
enforcement.
O
Even
when
renters
have
the
law
on
their
side,
enforcement
is
not
always
available
or
effective,
and
third
short-term
rental
operators
should
not
be
permitted
to
rent
up
secondary
Suites.
It
is
important
that
housing
meets
the
needs
of
those
who
live
and
work
in
Toronto
I'm.
A
newly
graduated
nurse
will
be
working
on
Hospital
in
the
downtown
core
and
if
I
can't
find
housing
to
my
close
to
my
workplace,
I'll
not
be
able
to
make
it
to
my
12-hour
shifts
and
I
might
be.
O
C
I
Sante
we
had
new
owners
move
in
in
September
of
2017
and
it's
being
operated
as
a
short-term
rental.
It
has
been
operating
next-door
since
the
change
of
ownership
no
principal
resident
staying
there
at
all.
This
is
outlined
in
a
PowerPoint
presentation
that
I
supplied
for
you
called
hi
I'm.
Your
new
neighbor.
I
It
is
not
owner-occupied,
it
is
used
strictly
for
short-term
rental
income.
The
rental
add
on
Airbnb,
includes
events
of
up
to
a
hundred
plus
people
welcome,
and
that
can
be
seen
in
the
appendix
that
I've
attached
to
the
PowerPoint.
This
is
a
residential
community
of
single-family
homes,
where
there
is
no
commercial
properties
in
the
vicinity.
I
Since
September
2017
we've
had
two
incidents
to
date
on
October
the
4th
there
was
a
strange
person
on
my
driveway
as
I
was
about
to
leave
to
visit
my
elderly
father.
The
stranger
was
on
my
driveway
for
about
20
minutes
and
even
proceeded
to
sit
on
my
vehicle
and
talk
on
the
phone.
Needless
to
say,
I
was
uncomfortable,
leaving
my
own
home
this
past
weekend,
November
11th,
carrying
into
the
12th
of
November,
an
all-night
party
partygoers
coming
and
going
throughout
the
night
from
10
p.m.
to
7
a.m.
at
least
20
cars
at
any.
I
Given
the
surroundings
and
people
outside,
we
felt
we
had
to
escort
our
teenage
daughter
up
our
driveway
to
the
house
upon
her
return
that
night,
a
fight
broke
out
at
6
a.m.
with
multiple
participants
outside
in
front
of
our
home,
including
vulgar
language
which
I
will
not
repeat
with
repeated
threats.
Police
were
contacted
but
did
not
attend
the
scene.
Garbage
strewn
all
over
the
road
and
culverts,
including
pizza
boxes,
McDonald's
drinking
cups,
so
on
and
so
forth.
Local
residents
and
neighbors
picked
up
the
bulk
of
the
garbage
the
next
morning.
I
Community
and
safety
concerns
certain
patrons.
Do
not
have
the
same
level
of
respect
for
property
or
neighboring
properties.
They
walk
freely
across
the
property's.
Short-Term
rental
owner
is
generating
revenue
at
the
expense
of
neighbors.
We
have
to
deal
with
cost
of
fencing,
cost
of
security
systems,
lack
of
sleep
affecting
work
and
our
personal
living
conditions,
while
there's
more
options
for
tourists,
negative
impact
on
the
residents
who
support
the
city
all
year
round,
I
will
skip
to
the
standards
principle
residents.
What
is
the
standard
for
principle
residents
who
is
going
to
investigate?
I
C
I
T
D
D
D
E
View
of
of
what
your
experience
is-
and
you
know
I
have
to
tell
you
that
I
share
some
of
your
concerns
because
I've
had
these
parties
on
my
street.
Would
you
be
willing
to
make
sure
that
I
mean?
Would
you
be
supportive
of
that?
The
landlord
quote-unquote
lives
in
the
house
while
he's
renting
it
out
absolutely.
Q
E
I
Been
rented
we've
been
keeping
a
log
to
my
knowledge.
So
far,
it's
been
six
days
six
to
seven
days.
When
did
they
wanted?
They
buy
it?
They,
the
house,
officially
changed
hands
in
September
and
they
bought
all
the
furniture,
and
the
only
thing
they
moved
in
was
an
added
boardroom
table
with
a
number
of
chairs
and
some
additional
beds.
So.
E
I
Kyle
we
have
they've
given
us
their
name.
They
have
a
different
name
on
the
Airbnb
website,
so
we're
not
sure
what
their
actual
real
name
is.
I've
spoken
with
municipal
licensing
and
standards,
one
of
the
provincial
officers,
and
they
did
indicate
that
they
would
investigate
and
I'm
not
the
only
concerned.
Neighbor
I
just
happen
to
have
the
time
to
come
down
here
today.
So.
E
E
I
C
I
Are
these
large
families
looking
for
accommodations
that
hotels
can't
serve
also
as
someone
who
was
running
out
of
the
cold
facility
for
21
seasons,
now
I
know
the
issue
of
long-term
housing,
and
it's
an
in
the
issue
of
long-term,
affordable
housing
in
particular,
is
difficult
and
I
applaud
the
commit
the
council
and
the
committees
for
working
hard
to
try
and
address
the
issue.
However,
I
truly
believe
that
these
second
homes
are
not
the
answer
to
that
particular
issue.
I
This
inventory
that
we
hold
as
Canada
stays
would
never
meet
the
definition
of
affordable
in
the
first
place,
and
these
properties
are
never
going
to
go
into
long-term
stock,
because
these
property
owners
would
rather
let
it
sit
empty
I,
do
support
the
draft
regulation,
though
that's
in
front
of
you.
I
really
do
I
think
that
it's
it's
a
good,
really
good
measure
on
on
addressing
a
lot
of
the
affordability
housing
crisis
in
Toronto,
but,
from
my
perspective,
excluding
secondary
residences
and
that's
what
I
really
want
to
talk
about.
I
Excluding
that
secondary
home
literally
a
second
home
is,
is
what
I
think
needs
to
be
included
back
into
the
legislation
and
for
a
couple
of
reasons
one
is
it's.
It's
gonna
reduce
inventory
an
already
underserved
hotel
market.
My
husband,
who
grew
up
at
in
Willowdale
his
family,
would
often
they're
all
interspersed
all
over
the
world.
They'd
often
come
for
a
visit
and
have
nowhere
to
stay
that
was
close
by
to
their
family.
So
it
was.
I
It
was
always
an
issue,
and
always
almost
a
running
joke
of
the
family
and
I
also
know
that
it's
going
to
reduce
tourism
in
very
local
communities,
because
if
people
come
and
rent
a
house
in
Willowdale
they're,
actually
spending
money,
also
in
Willowdale
they're,
not
just
coming
for
the
downtown
attractions.
So
if
people
are
renting
in
High
Park
they're
going
to
spend
money
in
High
Park
and
that's
what
I
I
look
at
the
vacation
rental
market
and
saying
people,
these
families
are
coming
to
Toronto,
there's
no
stopping
that
and
we
want
them
here.
I
Tourism
is
through
the
roof
and
we're
happy
to
have
them,
let's
figure
out
a
better
way
to
get
them
accommodated
in
larger
homes
that
satisfy
their
requirements.
I
urge
you
to
consider
putting
back
on
the
table
the
discussion
around
second
homes
in
the
legislation
in
before
you
and
I.
Thank
you
for
sharing
my
perspective.
Let
me
share
my
perspective.