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Licensing and Standards Committee, meeting 27, July 6, 2018
Agenda and background materials:
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Meeting Navigation:
0:14:15 - Call to order
Agenda Items:
0:19:48 - LS27.1 - Improved Dangerous Dog Review Tribunal (Ward All)
0:47:58 - LS27.2 - Proposed By-law to Regulate Residential Construction Dust (Ward All)
2:07:28 - LS27.3 - Specialty Dog Tag Pilot Project (Ward All)
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B
Okay,
we
do
have
a
quorum
I'm,
calling
this
meeting
to
all
the
good
good
morning.
Everyone
welcome
to
the
27
meeting
of
the
licensing
standards
community
I'd
like
to
extend
a
warm
welcome
to
members
of
the
public
and
those
watching
the
proceedings
on
TV
or
or
online.
As
usual.
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone
that
you
can
find
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting
and
follow
the
meeting
in
real-time
at
www.renttoowncenter.com.
B
That
were
meeting
on
the
traditional
territory,
the
missiles
or
the
new
creditors
nations.
They
called
the
Haudenosaunee
and
a
human
when
that
Hamada
many
diverse
indigenous
peoples,
conflicts
or
interests.
Any
declarations
of
under
the
meanest
contentious
active
members
of
the
committee,
if
non
non
knowledge.
B
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
to
confirm
the
minutes
of
the
last
licences:
community
meeting,
2014
Vice,
Chair,
Chinese,
auto
sandpaper
against
Kerry
speakers.
We
have
a
list
of
speakers
on
the
stool
on
the
true
items,
communications,
the
rhetoric.
We
have
a
communication
from
the
vice
chair,
transfer,
detainees
and.
B
Yeah
and
before
we
do
anything
with
this
one,
what
I'd
like
to
ask
the
clerk's
to
distribute
to
all
the
members
of
the
community
we
look
into
it.
We
may
have
a
problem
with
this
communication,
but
let's
look
into
it
and
we'll
take
it
from
there.
So,
for
now
is
not
introduced
is
just
as
let
me
look
into
it.
First.
B
B
Consumer
challenge
is
that
probably
because
I
have
new
new
things
coming
forward
and
if
I
made
such
as
maybe
to
put
in
to
do
it
through
in
orissa
motion
at
City
Council
to
bring
forward
to
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
and
I'll
be
more
than
glad
to
be
part
of
it,
because
that
there
are
a
few
concerns
that
were
can
be
addressed
through
council
also
posed
to
the
committee.
So
that's
the
that's.
The
the
ruling.
B
E
C
C
Sure
enough
I
mean
you
know
it's
my
responsibility.
Senate,
the
clerk
can
ask
that
he
comes
along
it's
regarding
cannabis.
There's
changes
that
are
happening
in
the
province
and
I'm
asking
staff
to
take
another
look
at
it,
less
others.
So
I
will
take
the
distribution
upon
myself
and
I.
Think
you
appreciate
it,
and
after
colleagues
see
it,
then
maybe
we
want
to
have
a
discussion
with
you
that
that's
fine.
F
B
Is
I
think
that
to
be
fair
to
the
members
the
community
is,
we
won't
be
able
to
introduce
anything
at
this
point,
but
if
the
clicking
justice
to
turnovers
and
then
we'll
do
it,
okay,
a
little
bit
later,
is
that
okay?
Is
there
anything
else?
If
not
I'll
go
we'll
go
through
the
agenda
quickly,
I'll
called
any
items
that,
but
we
have
only
two
items
and
we
have
the
evidence
on
both
items
or
both
items
are
being
hand,
so
we'll
get,
let's
go
with
it.
B
G
D
Was
extensive,
CTV's
Miranda
and
this
will
joins
us,
live
from
the
dog
park
where
this
happened
Miranda
is
there
an
investigation
underway,
Michele
Toronto,
Animal
Services
is
looking
into
the
attack
and
allegedly
happened
here
at
Cherry
beach
on
a
beautiful
sunny
day.
Much
like
this
one
Fito
and
his
owners
were
just
going
for
a
walk
when
they
say
it
turns
to
a
pet
owners.
Worst
nightmares.
D
E
G
E
D
H
D
D
G
We're
gonna
pause
right
here.
We
are
debating
well
we're
making
some
changes
to
Toronto
chapter
34
916,
with
deals
with
a
tribunal,
composition,
fantastic
I,
support
that
an
inclusion
of
a
veterinarian
as
part
of
the
team.
A
very
challenging
opinion
is
so
important,
but
how
you
can
contact
dr.
battery
from
the
clinic?
Well,
Frieda
was
seeing
my
dog.
G
We
have
made
some
tooth
freedom
informations.
This
is
a
copy
for
freedom.
Information.
If
you
know
it
never
seen
one
I
see
there
is.
There
is
a
freedom
information,
so
Allsup's
upside
down.
Okay,
what
we're
looking
at
my
partner,
my
girlfriend
you
know
is,
according
to
this
report,
says
the
changes
are
intended
to
one
improve
administrative
furnace
for
individuals,
appealing
a
dangerous
dog
order
and
number
two
increase:
the
transparency
of
the
dangerous
dog
Review
Tribunal.
So,
in
a
spirit
of
order,
transparency
call
my
quest.
G
My
quest
today
is
to
fulfill
this
our
application
in
order
that
we
get
some
private
information
that
are
not
going
to
reveal
it
right
here
right
now,
because
I
will
get
shut
up
by
the
chairman.
So
another
thing
I
want
to
add
to
the
changes
that
you
are
proposing
to
make
I
want
to
propose
to
the
city
councillors
to
include
a
mandatory
insurance
policy
for
those
dog
owners
who
are
deemed
to
be
dangerous.
G
I,
don't
think
they
have
it
because
right
now,
I'm
in
the
quest
to
find
them,
then
microchip
a
microchip
is
a
good
idea,
but
how
you
can
find
it
when
the
dog
is
a
violin
dog,
not
known
to
be
a
dangerous
animal,
you
need
to
have
a
GPS.
That's
the
only
way
to
trade
track
it
down
that
at
the
adult
animal
who
is
considered
to
be
dangerous.
G
We
are
going
to
perhaps
in
entertain
the
city
going
through
the
tribunal.
Perhaps,
but
again,
our
hope
is
that
through
3000
likes,
my
our
justice
for
freedom
project
has
resulted
many
comments
made
to
us.
They
said
how
unjust
it
is
for
people
who
are
being
victims
not
able
to
recover
the
veterinarian
fees.
So
that's
one
is
ticket
issues
and
especially
when
dog
have
been
killed
by
other
dog,
they
have
no
other
recourse.
G
B
B
B
C
C
Sir,
you
were
saying
that
we
should
your
your
comment
was
that
we
should
look
after
the
dangerous
dogs
like
licensed
them,
or
you
know
have
something
with
them:
I'm
wondering
how
do
you
define
a
dangerous
dog?
What's
the
definition,
could
it
be
a
little
puppy
that
might
want
to
protect
its
owner
and
the
puppy
jumps
up
and
bites
somebody?
Could
it
be?
A
large
dog
me
I'm,
just
looking
to
understand
your
definition
of
what
a
dangerous
dog
is
well.
G
C
I'm,
just
going
to
give
you
an
example
of
a
personal
situation.
I
was
knocking
at
the
door.
It
was
a
little
more,
not
more
than
ten
pounds
besides
an
older
than
the
person
and
as
soon
as
I,
you
know,
the
person
says
come
on
in
as
soon
as
they
open
the
door.
I
see
they
still
just
jumping
at
me.
You
know
ready
to
go,
I
mean
you
know,
and
he
he
bit
me
would
that
be
considered
a
danger
stock.
You
know
I.
G
C
B
F
You,
mr.
chair,
I,
guess
my
question.
The
staff
is:
why
I
see
the
rationale
in
the
report
that
you,
you
believe
that
changes
are
intended
to
improve
fairness
and
increase
transparency?
Why?
Why
do
you
believe
that?
Why
is
the
status
quo?
Not?
Is
it
not
working
or
so
I
guess
that's!
My
question.
I
want
to
drill
down
a
little
bit.
Why
do
you
think
it's
not
good
to
have
our
professional
staff
on
this
committee
instead,
general
members
of
the
public,
so.
E
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
we
believe
that
the
public's
perception
of
having
city
staff
sit
on
the
tribunal
is
a
conflict
of
interest.
That
is
what
the
public
has
been
reporting
to
us
so
and
in
line
with
how
other
tribunals
operate
within
the
city,
we
believe
removing
it
from
the
internal
process
and
putting
it
into
an
external
form
will
remove
any
bias
or
perception
of
bias.
F
Thank
you
and
through
you,
mr.
chairs,
so
would
it
be
fair
to
say
perhaps
that
you
said
there
are
44
applications
annually?
So
is
it
that
if
my
dog
has
bitten
some
people
or
persons
and
I'm
appealing
that
dangerous
dog
designation
that
I'm
the
one
who's
saying
my
dog
is
innocent
and
your
staff
are
just
agreeing
with
your
own
staff?
That's.
E
E
E
F
E
F
Then
I'm,
assuming
that
you're
suggesting
to
us
that
the
net
impact
of
creating
this
Tribunal
is
at
one
level
to
protect
the
city
and
the
perception
people
have
of
the
city,
because
I
don't
think
it's
children
who
get
bit
complaining
about
this.
It's
the
people
who
own
their
dangerous
dogs
complaining
about
the
city
through.
H
Number
notices
that
you
sent
out,
which
hundred
and
I
can't
remember
the
exact
answers.
160
and
44
appealed
the
notices
so
when,
when
the
notices
are
sent
out,
so
what
happens
like
with
the
dog
owner
they
like?
What
are
the
conditions?
What
you
know,
what
do
they
have
to
do
in
order
to
meet
the
the
notice
like
so.
H
E
E
H
B
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
If
not
I
have
just
one
question:
it's
in
this
follow-up
to
them
deputy
mayor's
questions,
so
the
changes
that
are
intended
within
this
report
is
to
improve
the
administrative
fairness,
especially
for
individuals
who
are
appealing
any
orders,
and
that's
the
intention
overall
and
to
increase
the
level
of
transparency
and
in
terms
of
dealing
with
any
orders.
Having
issue
is
that
the
purpose
of
all
these
changes
yeah.
A
B
A
And
to
you,
mr.
chair,
yes,
and
this
dangerous
dog
and
the
conditions
that
have
been
imposed
is
relatively
new.
We
did
that
in
November
of
2016
to
the
deputy
at
how
that's
operating
in
the
best
interest
of
the
public.
So
the
input
here
today
will
certainly
help
inform
any
few
work
we
do
for
the
purposes
of
the
report.
Today,
it
is
focused
on
establishing
getting
the
authority
to
establish
an
adjudicative
panel
of
persons
appointed
by
Council.
This.
B
A
So
to
you,
mr.
chair,
in
the
report
on
page
5,
we
did
look
at
four
neighboring
municipalities,
including
Ottawa,
and
it's
a
50/50.
Some
have
done
this.
The
public
servant
panel
approach,
which
we
have
done
for
many
many
years,
have
done
it
successfully
and
others
that
are
using
a
public
appointment
process.
They
all
report
them
working
equally
as
well
as
the
other.
A
B
J
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
I
I,
will
move
adoption
of
the
recommendations,
I
think
the
from
listening
to
staff
and
being
aware
of
some
of
the
other
methods
we
have
of
adjudicating
the
situations
where
people
appeal
an
enforcement
process
that
typically
is
handled
by
staff.
So
it
is
difficult
for
staff
to
be
both.
J
You
know
enforcing
and
laying
a
charge
and
then
also
being
the
adjudicator
on
the
charge.
It
doesn't
really
make
a
lot
of
sense
and
it
it
works
much
more
effectively
to
set
up
a
tribunal
like
we
have
a
property
standards
tribunal
whatever
to
allow
external
people
to
make
decisions
on
appeals
and
that
functions
well,
both
from
the
public
perspective
and
from
staffs
effective,
and
it
frees
up
some
staff
time
as
well.
Hopefully,
to
do
some
of
the
things
that
are
more
important,
like
focusing
on
my
ward.
Thank
you.
F
You
mr.
chair
I
will
also
support
the
staff
recommendations
and
I
would
like
to
thank
our
staff
in
animal
services
and
in
licensing
in
general
both
for
transforming
the
way
the
the
way
we
take
care
of
animals
in
the
city.
The
dangerous
dog
legislation
was
a
result
of
some
horrific
incidents
that
would
have
terrified
any
person
and
any
parent,
so
I
think
the
changes
we've
made
are
very
good.
I
on
a
personal
level
thought
having
somebody
from
Children's
Services
and
paramedic
services
and
public
health
licensing
and
standards
staff.
F
From
parents
whose
children
have
been
attacked
by
vicious
dogs
to
veterinarians
to
people
who
are
lovers
of
certain
breeds,
if
you
have
a
German
Shepherd,
you
may
want
to
sit
on
this
committee
because
you
have
an
understanding
of
different
types
of
dogs.
So
I
actually
think
this
will
be
good,
and
this
will
help
the
perception
with
the
public
that
we
are
fair
and
I.
F
These
people
were
biased
against
my
poor
little
dog,
but
I.
Think
at
least
then
they're
not
pointing
at
our
own
staff,
saying
the
city
is
corrupt
or
staff
are
corrupt
or
all
of
the
the
over-the-top
accusations
that
we
hear
so
I
think
when
we
have
people
selected
from
veterinarian
associations
from
from
dog
rescue
groups
from
parents.
F
That
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
very
good
and
balanced
group,
and
it
again
allows
us
still
to
be
at
the
forefront
of
animal
welfare
and
I'm
again
I'm
very
proud
of
where
we
are
today
and
I
know,
there's
more
steps
to
go
forward.
But
this
is
another
step
in
a
very
long
process.
So
I'm
very
happy
to
see
this
report
here
today.
F
B
She
ended
up
in
a
home
splat
for
some
time
and
scar
for
life,
literally
speaking,
and
so
that
was
a
tremendous
experience
that
we
had
to
go
through
in
the
family
and,
as
I
said
in
a
cidade,
it
was
terrifying
to
see
what
the
what
happened,
the
tragedy
and
the
process
that
we
had
by
then.
But
then
we
didn't
have
even
something
similar
to
to
the
tribunal
that
it
the
way.
B
It
is
right
now
the
only
option
that
I
had
at
that
point
it
was
to
call
the
city
and
with
animal
service
whatever
they
could
at
that
point
and
the
truant
and
the
drug
free
services
dealing
with
a
dangerous
dog
that
jumped
over
the
fence
and
attacked
these
little
kids
who
were
playing
on
the
in
the
lane.
It
was
just
terrifying
and
in
terms
of
being
biased,
there
were
people
at
the
point.
B
B
That's
cleaning
up
all
those
perceptions
from
the
past,
something
that
we're
moving
forward
in
a
more
transparent
way
and
in
something
that's
going
to
be
marked
more
functional.
So
from
that
perspective,
the
recommendations
that
are
before
us
so
well
thought-out
and,
in
my
opinion,
that's
going
to
work
quite
well
and
serve
our
communities
and
the
right
way.
So
from
the
perspective,
thank
you
and,
of
course,
and
I
hope
that
every
member
of
the
committee
votes
on
this
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
recorded
vote
on
this
one.
B
This
is
the
last
meeting
of
the
licensing
standards
committee
for
this
term
of
Council,
and
I
really
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
our
city
staff
from
municipal
licensing
standards
from
a
department
from
the
clerk
and
for
your
tremendous
amount
to
work
for
your
level
of
commitment
and
from
a
little
angle,
I've
been
able
to
see
how
work
you
are,
how
how
you
work
and
all
the
good
policies
that
have
been
implemented
and
I
won't
get
into
the
list
of
all
the
things
that
we
have
done.
Special
with
us
over
235
directives
from
cancer.
B
B
F
Had
asked
to
introduce
a
new
item
just
so
it
can
be
circulated.
So
members
have
a
chance
to
see
it.
The
staff
have
looked
at
it,
I
think
the
clerk
so
say
it
is
I'll
call
it
in
order
and
staff
have
recommended
some
changes.
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
could
introduce
that
as
a
new
item,
so
it
could
be
circulated
to
the
members
of
the
committee.
We
have
a
chance
to
read
it.
H
D
B
B
K
K
Basing
base
construction
dust
regulations
on
adverse
health
and
environmental
impacts,
treating
dust
as
a
nuisance,
trivializes
its
harm
and
confuses
educational
messaging
government
agencies
and
authorities
considered
us
hazardous,
including
Ontario's
Ministry
of
Labour,
the
US
EPA
and
UK's
Health,
and
Safety
Executive
Ontario
Ontario
Ministry
of
Labour
states
exposure
to
silica
from
abrasive
blasting
results.
If
the
abrasive
contains
silica
and/or,
if
the
material
being
blasted
contains
silica,
it
adds
that
crystalline
silica
may
be
harmful.
K
The
other
point
I
want
to
make
is
that
one
city
agency
must
regulate
and
enforce
all
dust
sources.
A
central
authority
must
enforce
construction
dust
control
regulations,
dividing
it
between
Toronto
Public
Health
licensing
standards
in
the
province
confuses
and
frustrates
the
public
and
industry
limiting
effectiveness.
K
Also,
Ontario's
EPA
has
contradictory
clauses
on
residential
dust.
One
Clause
states
quote
this
regulation
does
not
apply
to
residential
construction
quote,
but
another
clause
states,
despite
any
other
provisions
of
the
Act
a
person
discharging
a
contaminant
or
permitting
the
discharge
of
an
ax
contaminant
into
the
environment
is
is,
is
is
governed
by
the
Act.
The
the
bylaw
needs
to
include
all
mesh
all
all
construction
dost,
not
some
of
it.
K
Precut
all
stone,
cladding
off
state
to
reduce
waste
disposal,
costs,
construction,
time,
dust
and
noise
while
boosting
quality
control.
This
is
standard
practice
for
the
best
contractors,
toronto
buildings
and
toronto.
Public
health.
Seldom
comment
on
dust
control.
Measures
for
single-family
residential
demolitions
since
declaring
the
presence
of
hazardous
substances
in
existing
buildings
is
voluntary,
require.
Instead,
mandatory
disclosure
for
dental
demolition
applications
require
asbestos
removal
measures
for
demolishing
single-family
homes
built
when
asbestos
was
used,
regulate
dust
and
clouds
from
abrasive
blasting.
K
Coordinated
dust
mitigation,
member
mette
measures
with
the
noise
by
law
under
revision
to
protect
resident
and
workers
dust
exhaust
systems
for
stone
saws,
must
have
silencing
to
protect
those
living
and
working
around
construction
require
cutting
to
be
done
in
sound
insulated
enclosures,
such
as
the
structure
under
construction
to
contain
dust
and
noise
noise
is
a
health
threat,
Esper
Toronto,
Public
Health.
How
loud
is
loud.
The
solution
for
one
problem
should
not
cause
another
enforcement.
K
If
MLS
can't
do
it,
then
the
chief
building
official
must,
with
ticketing
building
inspectors,
no
project
locations,
technology
plans
and
progress,
and
also
have
enforcement
training.
The
good
neighbor
guide
and
education
alone
cannot
prevent
the
worst
contractors
from
dispersing
dust
onto
the
public.
Finally,
Toronto's
legal
services
must
tweak
the
bylaw,
so
it
stands
up
in
court.
I
also
endorse
Fonterra's
position
on
this
matter.
Thank
you.
Very
much.
I
have
a
picture
here
of
a
residential
demolition.
This
is
occurring
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
People
are
walking
by
it
goes
on
for
about
three
weeks.
F
L
Okay,
my
name
is
Sharon
Mauer
and
I
live
in
Midtown
residential
neighborhood
I'm.
The
neighbor
I
have
experienced
construction
dust
firsthand
with
a
tall
replacement
home
that
was
built
next
door
to
us
two
years
ago
and
as
we
speak
this
summer
we
have
two
houses,
were
sort
of
bookend
theirs
under
construction,
there's
three
doors
away
this
way
and
two
doors
away.
That
way.
So
a
couple
weeks
ago
we
endured
some
stone
cutting
dust
on
the
facade
of
one
of
those
houses,
I'm
also
an
active
member
of
a
local
residents.
L
Association
and
I've
discussed
construction
dust
with
many
residents
in
the
north
part
of
the
city.
Over
the
past
few
years,
I
attended
the
public
consultation
meeting
that
was
held
by
MLS
and
in
May.
Okay,
so
I
have
a
few
photos.
The
first
one
is
the
front
of
our
house.
Our
house
is
in
the
foreground
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
stone
cutting
dust
is
next
door.
Our
Lots
are
25
foot
Lots,
so
the
house
next
door
is
very
close.
Our
house
is
an
old
house
and
the
windows
and
doors
are
not
very
airtight.
L
L
L
Ok,
this
worker
would
show
up
every
morning
with
this
finely
gelled
hairdo
very
proud
of
himself
and
within
minutes
it
was
covered
in
dust
and
notice
also
that
he
doesn't
have
a
mask
on
no
no
I
I.
Don't
think
I've
ever
seen,
one
of
these
workers
with
a
mask
on
these
fine
particulates,
they
drift
quite
a
ways.
This
was
cut
from
the
stone,
was
being
cut
in
the
phone
in
front
of
the
property,
and
this
is
my
fingers
on
our
back
deck
on
our
table.
L
3-1-1
is
certainly
not
effective
when
it
comes
to
noise
on
these
residential
construction
sites,
in
fact
I
I
phone
several
times
a
couple
years
ago
when
this
was
going
on.
But
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
phoned
on
a
Sunday,
because
there
was
a
worker
on
the
site.
Making
noise
and
an
enforcement
officer
showed
up
on
Wednesday
night,
so
enforcement
has
to
be
quick
or
it
just
doesn't
work.
L
So
some
of
my
recommendations,
dust
control
measures,
stone
cutting
tools,
must
be
dust
list,
saw
technology
or
use
some
sort
of
vacuum
attachment.
If
these
tools
are
not
available,
stone
cutting
should
be
done
in
an
enclosed,
tent
or
building
of
some
kind
or
may
be
handled
off-site.
I
would
like
to
see
some
sort
of
building
permit
for
cutting
to
dust.
L
It
would
be
and
sort
of
issued
with
a
certain
time
frame
say
a
week
or
two.
The
permit
would
have
visibility
online
to
the
residents
and
neighbors
and
it
really
narrows
down
a
time
for
enforcement
officers
to
be
able
to
visit
or
drive
by
a
site
and
see
if
there's
any
dust
and
by
law,
compliance
income.
B
C
You
you've
done
next,
thank
you
for
coming
in.
Yes,
it
sure
you've
done
extend
extensive
homework
on
this
one
of
the
just
reading.
Here
it
says
that
both
viola
would
only
apply
to
residential
properties.
Only
you
would
not
apply
to
necessary
municipal
work,
large-scale
construction
projects,
such
the
construction
of
multi,
residential
building,
etc,
etcetera.
L
C
Well,
besides,
municipal
works
as
large-scale
construction
projects
as
the
construction
of
multi,
residential
building
subdivisions
or
mixed-use
development
and
commercial
or
industrial
properties.
If
you
have
a
house
which
is
beside
a
Plaza
and
they're
doing
some
work
right,
that
is
a
commercial
property
right,
so
they
can
go
ahead
and
do
what
this
guy
is
doing.
But
you
know
you're
I'm
sure.
C
I'm
concerned
with
the
chair
of
going
beyond
what
you've
been
living
right
next
door
to
his
project.
If
you
were
living
in
besides
a
commercial,
plaza
mm-hmm
and
they
were
doing
work
like
this
I
wouldn't
be
happy.
So
this
proposal
account
to
them
right
so
I
guess
you're,
not
supportive
of
about
150
percent.
No.
L
L
F
L
F
Would
you
also
say
I
think
our
staff
have
tried
to
give
I'll
call
it
a
contractor
yeah?
Well,
maybe
not
that
that
house
there
that's
yeah
demolition,
but
the
photos
that
you
showed
us
would
give
that
contractor,
say
who's
working
next
to
your
house,
a
range
of
options,
yeah
in
the
city
saying
to
that
contractor
we
don't
care
which
option
you
use.
Just
don't
bother
the
nice
lady
next
door
right,
but
your
your
recommendation
saying
is
specifically
Stoney.
Cutting
tools
must
use,
dustless
saw
technology
or
a
vacuum
attached.
L
B
M
Morning
committee,
my
name
is
al
kV
I'm,
with
the
Southland
and
rate
payers
Association,
and
also
sit
on
the
font
or
a
steering
committee.
In
response
to
the
construction
dust
initiative.
We
spun
up
a
small
working
group
and
I
worked
with
the
working
group
in
order
to
construct
our
letter
today.
So
I'll
read
some
of
the
highlights
of
the
specific
letter
I
always
enjoy
coming
to
the
committee,
because
I
learn
all
about
the
city
and
other
other
bylaws
that
understand
there's
a
prospect
of
a
dangerous
dog
bylaw.
M
We
might
want
to
apply
that
to
some
of
our
board
members
and
maybe
a
few
of
the
contractors
that
we
have
in
our
neighborhood
as
well.
We
might
draw
the
line
at
microchipping,
but
certainly
there's
some
innovative
ways
that
we
could
could
keep
track
of
the
worst
offenders.
In
my
humble
opinion,
the
the
exercise
I
believe
from
a
font
force
perspective
is
a
good
first
start.
We
can't
pretend
that
this
is
full
and
complete.
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done.
M
We've
certainly
heard
that
from
Harold,
maybe
Harold
get
a
dangerous
dog
designation
as
well
and
and
and
and
Sharon.
It's
a
first
start
is
not
the
end.
It
and
part
of
that
first
start
is
to
improve
the
ability
to
monitor,
what's
actually
happening
through
the
3-1-1
and
the
the
database
systems
to
actually
capture
the
incidence
of
of
construction
dust.
It's
disheartening
to
see
that
only
the
public
health
department
can
actually
count
these
things
and,
and
yet
the
city
does
not
have
any
way
for
counting
the
number
of
instance.
M
So
the
practice
of
good
management
is,
it
begins
with
measurement.
If
you
can't
measure
you
can't
manage
so
I
I
would
certainly
endorse
the
ability
to
manage
constructing
dust
as
in
at
an
incident
level.
One
of
the
things
we
be
on
is
is
to
to
do
a
very
quick
literature
survey.
It's
not
something
we
do
as
a
matter
of
of
science,
but
the
the
literature
survey
uncovered
that
that
there
is
the
city
of
Fort
Collins
in
Colorado
that
has
an
excellent
dust
control
manual.
It
should
be
a
reference
for
us
all.
M
It's
identified,
ninth,
what
I
call
nine
flavors
of
dustin's.
It's
like
the
Eskimos
have
20
names
for
snow
I
didn't
realize
there
were
nine
flavors
of
dust
it.
We
can't
attack
a
problem
and
still
we
give
it
a
name
and
and
and
so
there's
a
different
control
on
demolition,
dust
versus
abrasion
dust
and
and
all
of
these
things
and
and
the
so
I
encourage
us
as
we
go
forward
and
try
and
monitor
these
things
to
try
and
monitor
the
the
source
of
the
dust,
as
well
as
the
incidence
of
the
dust
as
well.
M
We
also
discovered
in
our
literature
review
that
there's
fine
work,
that's
being
done
in
the
United
United
Kingdom
in
in
terms
of
of
their
air
quality
management
methods
and
methods
of
assessment.
There's
wonderful
material
out
there
that
that
science,
that
that
would
be
very
helpful
for
us
to
try
and
and
put
metrics
on
all
of
this.
M
The
issue
is
all
nine
flavors
that
the
dust
may
not
be
harmful
to
our
health,
but
certainly
certainly
silicon
silicon
base
dust
is
absolutely
an
immediate
and
direct
danger,
especially
to
the
workers
and
and
and
and
Harold's
certainly
points
out
is
we
we
buy
in
a
sense
diffusing
the
responsibility
for
managing
the
dust,
various
city
departments
and
provincial
departments.
We're
really
not
going
to
be
properly
equipped
to
tackle
it
going
forward
as
well.
M
That's
let
me
just
see
what
else
I
may
have
on
the
note.
Certainly
the
public
education
program
is
necessary.
It's
one
of
these
issues.
As
you
get
into
dust,
you
realize
that
if
you
picked
up
the
good
neighborhood
guide-
and
you
said,
I
see
an
incidence
of
dust
happening,
it
would
take
some
effort
to
determine
well
what
type
of
dust
is
it
is
it
related
to
demolition?
Where
does
it
go?
Is
the
is
there
a
worker
hazard?
Where
does
it
go
you?
M
You
would
need
a
PhD
and
dust
technology
to
work
your
way
through
the
good
neighbors
guide.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
I
think
could
be
made
to
make
this
thing
more
digestible,
maybe
a
poster
or
something
that
that
allows
laypeople
to
address
it
more
it
more
directly
as
well
and
and
of
course
we
we
do
and
it's
been
encouraged
identified
today.
The
key
to
any
successful
regulation
is
enforcement
and
and
the
issue
with
dust
even
and
and
Harold
points
out.
M
Some
some
of
these
aspects
of
dust
are
along
along,
have
a
long
duration,
demolition
dust
will
hang
in
the
air,
as
we
see
here
for
several
days
enough
time
for
an
inspector
to
come
by.
But
a
lot
of
these
things
are
short
duration,
things
as
well,
so
the
regulation
should
really
and
enforcement
should
recognize
that
I
met
my
five
minutes.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thanks.
B
F
M
The
city
of
Fort
Collins,
it's
it's
referenced
in
our
letter.
It
it
is,
it
was
just
recently
published
I
believe
in
2016.
It
is
I
would
I
would
argue
it
may
be
the
dust
Bible
for
for
municipalities
here
in
North,
America
and
I'd,
encourage
the
the
city
to
to
look
at
that
and
and
contemplate
it
as
we
go
forward
and
try
and
manage
and
monitor
this
thing
more
fully.
That's.
F
M
Top
of
the
paragraph
second
page
top
of
the
paragraph
second
page,
we
talked
about
the
UK
Institute
of
yes,
wonderful
guidance
document,
science,
around
dust
management
assessment.
The
second
part
of
the
paragraph
city
of
Fort
Collins,
the
the
definitive
manual
on
municipalities,
managing
dust
in
their
to
2h
HTTP
links
to
reverent
reference
documents
and.
F
M
Sure
for
sure,
there's,
no,
the
the
issue
of
my
view
is
the
issue
of
attacking
the
dust
problem.
Is
you
have
to
give
it
a
name
right
and
and
what
we're
saying
is:
there's
nine
types
of
dust
and
the
remediation
effort
or
the
the
management
effort
for
that
type
of
dust
should
be
associated
with
each
flavor
of
dust.
M
A
lot
of
the
remedies
that
we've
done
are
really
are
the
the
the
report
focuses
on
stone,
cutting
dust,
which
is
probably
the
worst
offender
and
the
remedies
II
threw
age
largely
talked
about
that
particular
flavor
of
dust
good
place
to
start,
but
let's,
as
we
start
to
capture
data,
let's
capture
data
in
a
scientific
way,
let's
make
sure
that
we
categorized
the
dust,
the
incidence
and
let's
assess
and
measure
it
in
a
scientific
way,
going
forward
that
that's
that's
our
recommendation
today.
So.
F
Then
you're
saying
that
that
you
support
our
staff
report,
but
you
would
like
to
see
our
staff
because
they
did
their
jurisdictional
review.
They
did
their
research
but
you're,
saying
you'd
like
them
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research
and
perhaps
if
they
refer
to
these
documents
and
others
come
back
with
a
more
fine-grained.
If
that's
the
right
word,
I
would.
M
Argue
that
they
tackled
the
problem
the
wrong
way.
They
said:
let's
look
at
North
America,
where
we
can
find
a
bylaw
that
we
can
adopt
to
help
us
and
really
an
enforcement
action
about
dust
about
dust.
What
we
said
is
don't
look
at
it.
The
other
way.
Let's,
let's
identify
the
emitters
of
dust,
let's
say:
identify
the
receptors
of
dust.
Let's
give
dust
a
name:
let's
look
at
the
best
practices
with
respect
to
measurement
and
management
of
the
dust
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
day.
M
N
So
one
of
the
concerns
that
that
I
have
in
dealing
with
helping
with
some
of
the
tenant
association
matters
is
that
we're
breathing
this
dust
through
our
air
vents
and
our
units,
and
so
on
and
there's
I
understand.
There
have
been
many
submissions
to
the
board
concerning
these
problems,
but
we
have
received
almost
no
responses,
which
leads
me
to
speak
to
raise
the
issue
of
the
quality
of
the
the
backup
support
in
terms
of
monitoring
the
work
in
terms
of
dealing
with
substandard
work,
the
dust
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
N
O
Okay,
the
extra
two
minutes.
Thank
you,
I
appreciate
it.
You'll
give
me
three
okay
now
good
morning
and
I
really
love
coming
to
City
Hall,
but
I
really
do
not
like
coming
to
these
meetings.
I,
don't
find
that
much
as
accomplished.
I
know
that
we've
done
a
lot
of
good
work
together,
I'm
with
the
1501
Woodbine
tenants
association.
Now
we
have
been
finding
that
we
have
an
Aptus
since
2009
we
have
as
I've
said
dust.
The
picture.
I
have
I've
got
a
million
pictures
and
there
has.
There
is
so
much
dust
everywhere.
O
We
were
calling
the
city,
we
were
doing
everything
we
possibly
can
apparently
there's
a
500-page
asbestos
report.
When
we
talk
about
dust,
I
haven't
heard
much
mention
of
asbestos.
There's
a
lot
of
asbestos
in
the
city
and
I
know.
The
tenants
at
1501
have
not
been
protected
from
asbestos.
We
have
been
asking
management
to
give
us
a
copy.
They
refuse.
O
We
have
been
having
to
call
public
health.
We
have
had
to
call
the
labor
board
because
it
seems
like
there
is
no
coordination.
There
is
no
body,
there
is
no
function.
That
is
there
to
provide
the
kind
of
support
and
the
help
the
citizens
need.
It
is
an
administrative
nightmare
and
I'm
sure.
All
of
you
can
appreciate
that
I
think
the
biggest
and
most
important
thing
that
we
need
do
here
today
is
to
let
Emma
us
focus
on
property
standards.
O
I'm,
not
sure
why
MLS
is
wanting
to
take
on
more
responsibility
when
they
can't
even
enforce
the
current
laws.
We
have
prohibition,
orders
on
our
building,
I've,
never
heard
of
such
a
thing.
They
are
now
in
breach
of
said
prohibition
orders,
but
somehow
our
building
her
continues
to
pass
inspection.
I
personally
have
been
calling.
We
talk
about
health,
the
garbage
situation,
the
amount
of
graffiti
that
is
building
up
is
unbelievable
and
it
goes
back
to
enforcement
and
I
know
that
I'm
a
little
bit
off
topic
here.
O
But
again
it
is
important
that
the
work,
our
departments,
our
public
departments,
is
streamlined.
Mls
really
has
I'm,
not
sure
why
it's
been
recommended
that
they
enforce
this.
It
is
public
health
and
public
health
should
be
dealing
with
public
health
matters
just
as
much
as
it
gets
very
confusing.
We
have
a
lot
of
mold
in
our
building.
We
call
public
health,
public
health,
comes
it's
not
10
feet
or
more.
So
now
we
need
to.
B
B
O
What
I
would
like
for
you
to
consider
is
perhaps
to
take
a
deep
breath
and
start
to
consider
and
I
know:
I'm
not
suggesting.
No
one
is
not
trying
to
protect
the
public,
but
we
hear
the
public
don't
feel
like
we're
being
protected.
There
are
far
too
many
layers
of
administration.
We
need
to
streamline
MLS
we're
still
waiting
for
the
reports
on
the
apartment
building
regulations.
We
don't
know
what
building
audits
there
are
I
can't
even
find
our
buildings
old
audit
I,
don't
understand.
O
What's
going
on,
we
have
far
too
many
layers
again
of
departments
and
we
need
to
keep
the
focus
at
where
it
needs
to
be
with
the
experts
dust.
All
this
concrete
dust
and
if
you
I
could
show
videos
where
we
were
in
encompassed
with
so
much
dust
we're
right.
Beside
a
public
school,
there
are
homes
across
the
bill
across
the
street.
I
know
that
they've
been
calling
three
one
one.
O
We
have
no
idea
what
is
going
on
with
our
homes
or
health,
our
ventilation
systems
I,
have
pictures
of
elevators
in
the
basement
that
still
has
construction
dust
from
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
Some
work
that
did
in
the
pool
that
we
can
still
use
so
is
the
building.
Where
we
live,
healthy,
I,
don't
feel
like
it
is.
We
there
were
orders
to
clean
the
ventilation
system
last
year.
O
I
can
assure
you
that
the
ventilation
system
in
its
entirety
was
not
cleaned,
but
that
file
was
closed
and
this
goes
on
and
on
and
on
I'm,
not
pointing
fingers.
But
we
need
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
this
and
we
need
transparency.
We
need
accountability
and
we
need
departments
that
are
streamlined
so
that
way
the
average
person
doesn't
need
to
understand
the
work
that
the
departments
do
and
your
understanding
of
it
I'm
still
even
learning,
and
it's
been
five
years
and
every
time
I
pick
up
the
phone.
B
B
F
F
F
P
P
The
speaker
as
part
of
the
demolition
permit
process,
what
the
applicant
would
need
to
do
is
disclose
if
there's
any
hazardous
materials
on
the
property.
This
isn't
exactly
dust,
but
they
would
need
to
disclose
that
if
there
are
public
health
would
look
at
it
for
a
mitigation
plan
as
to
how
they
would
control
that
asbestos
or
hazardous
materials
on
the
and
then
the
responsibility
would
be
for
the
property
owner
to
put
that
mitigation
plan
in
place,
but
specifically
with
dust
lease
first
controlling
not,
there
are
no
regulations
in
place.
I
Move
the
chair.
Sorry,
if
I
can
also
clarify,
should
a
complaint
be
made
to
the
city
by
a
resident
with
respect
to
health
concerns
about
dust,
then
our
colleagues
from
Toronto,
Public
Health,
will
investigate
that
and
members
from
Toronto
Public
Health
are
here
and
they
can
answer
more
detailed
questions.
If
you
have
concerns
around
that,
okay.
F
And
three:
three,
mr.
chairman,
thank
you
for
the
answer.
Our
recommendation
is
to
read
the
report
and
I
think
we
staff
are
recommending
that
we
do
regulate.
Sorry,
oh
you
know
what
my
page
is
with
the
clerk.
That's
why
I
can't
find
it
my
report,
but
I
think
we
recommend
that
you
shouldn't
create
dust
that
that
trespasses
on
other
people's
property
correct
is.
That
is
that
maybe
the
thrust
of
this
report.
I
Through
the
church
councillor
debayer
maker,
yes,
we're
recommending
a
general
prohibition
that
dust
created
from
construction
activities
should
not
leave
the
property
from
where
the
activities
occurring
and
going
on
to
other
properties.
However,
we
are
exempting
demolition
projects
where
there
is
a
valid
demolition
permit.
So.
F
I
Because
there's
already
currently
regulations
that
govern,
for
instance,
if
there's
designated
substances
identified
in
a
building
the
internal
public
health
gets
involved
in
reviews.
The
ducts
mitigation
plan
that's
required
to
be
submitted
as
part
of
that,
so
we
don't
want
to
be
duplicating
and
adding
more
confusion
or
layering
on
a
matter.
That's
already
regulated
by
another
group.
Okay,.
F
F
I
F
I
I
guess
councilor
one
is
we
recognize
that
there
are
construction
activities
that
occur
that
are
short
in
duration,
so,
for
instance,
a
demolition
may
occur.
It
may
be
a
short
period
of
time,
there's
other
construction
activities
that
occur
that
are
much
longer
much
for
long,
and
so
we
are
focusing
right
now
on
dealing
with
the
issues
again,
recognizing
practically
speaking
what
we
can
regulate,
what
we
can
enforce
and
how
best
we
can
respond
to
these
issues.
I
H
So
is
it
possible
that
when
somebody
comes
in
for
a
building
permit
and
for
a
demolition
permit,
as
we
do
for
the
I
think
we
do
it
with
the
utility
cuts?
And
you
know
that
when
they
come
in
and
they
have
to
dig
up
and
they
have
to
give
a
deposit,
they
have
to
give
a
deposit
in
advance
and
then
getting
permission
right
for
any
of
the
utility
cuts.
So
is
there
any
way
that
we
can
do
this
with
the
building
permits
like
let
give
them
that
they?
They
have
to
give
us.
D
H
D
Through
a
mr.
chair,
I'll
address
the
utility
cut
one
and
then
I'll
pass
on
the
staff
to
talk
about.
How
do
you
deal
with
whether
you
could
take
a
deposit
on
a
private
building?
One
the
reason:
the
there's
deposits
place
for
utility
cuts
that
typically
relates
to
contractors
that
are
going
to
be
cutting
on
the
city
right-of-way.
So
it's
it's.
It's
the
city,
sidewalk
or
the
curb
that's
going
to
be
cut
and
damaged,
and
we
take
the
deposits
to
make
sure
they
reinstate
properly.
D
D
B
B
The
issue
that,
for
me
goes
beyond
what
we
have
seen
here
is
with
the
amount
of
math,
literally
speaking,
that
comes
out
of
these
developments
in
that
ends
up
on
the
road
and
eventually
that
becomes
dance
on
windy
days
and
whatever
else
now.
I
know
that
control
under
the
transportation
division,
but.
B
And
it's
kind
of
difficult
in
terms
of
dealing
with
something
that
should
be
handled,
perhaps
or
coordinating
Italy
with
barrier
between
the
divisions
every
time
that
there
is
a
building
permit,
the
issue
for
either
demolitions
or
the
construction
may
be
where
there
is
something
more
integrated,
as
opposed
to
McDouble
calls.
It's
very
frustrating
is
there?
Are
we
doing
anything
anything
to
do
with
that
from
a
different
perspective
or
just
dealing
with
the
transportation
division
through.
P
The
speaker
to
the
speaker
as
part
of
our
residential
infill
strategy,
what
we've
put
together.
This
is
the
whole
purpose
of
the
strategy.
So
the
strategy
involves
all
of
the
divisions
that
have
us
play
a
part
or
a
role
in
construction,
come
together
on
a
regular
basis
to
look
at
how
we
can
mitigate
issues
or
all
of
the
nuisance
type
issues
that
result
from
residential
infill
construction
and
develop
strategies
on
how
to
mitigate
those
concerns.
B
Another
question
that
they
have
is
with
blowing
machines
and
I'm,
not
even
referring
to
live
applause,
but
blowing
machines
that
very
often
and
contractors
or
subcontractors
use
to
clean
up
the
mess
that
they're
leaving
behind
in
that
creates
even
more
dust.
So
and
within
the
report,
you
have
a
section
that
deals
with
any
machines
that
is
mow
machines,
that
and
manual
machines.
Are
we
within
the
definitions
that
we
have
in
what's
been
proposed?
Is
there
something
that's
a
bit
more
that
has
more
meat
into
it?
So.
A
To
you,
mr.
chair
I,
think
when
you
look
at
the
the
combination
of
the
fact
that
this
is
a
general
prohibition.
It
recognizes
that
where
people
have
taken
mitigating
steps
to
address
the
issue
of
the
dust
leaving
the
property
coupled
with
the
manner
in
which
we've
defined
what
equipment
is
captured
in
this
I,
think
we've
got
a
pretty
folsom
tool
to
use
to
manage
any
types
of
tools
that
are
being
used
and
the
the
distribution
of
dust
off
of
the
property
of
a
residential
infill.
So
I
think
between
you
know
the
entirety
of
the
package.
B
Last
question
is
we're
not
dealing
with
noise
at
this
point
where
didn't
just
with
asked,
but
the
two
things
almost
come
together:
the
noise
in
dance
in
terms
of
the
educational
component.
Is
there
anything
that
we're
doing
to
deal
with
the
industries
as
well
and
perhaps
through
the
Toronto
construction
Association
of
that
they
have
over
three
hundred
thousand
members
in
terms
of
the
construction?
B
Is
there
anything
that
can
be
conveyed
to
them,
just
letting
let
them
know
so
they
can
also
convey
that
information,
hopefully
effectively
across
to
their
membership,
to
let
them
know,
because
very
often
this
information
that's
get
to
the
to
those
who
are
engaged
in
to
the
contracting
part
of
who
are
doing
the
work.
Is
there
anything
that
can
be
done
that
we
can
add
on
to
it
to.
P
The
speaker
there's
a
number
of
pieces
of
work,
that's
underway
to
help
educate
the
industry
on
this
going
back
in
time.
What
we
did
is
we
brought
in
the
ratepayers
association
or
residents
associations,
along
with
build
the
renovators
group
in
particular,
whose
respondent
who
carry
out
a
lot
of
this
infill
construction
to
develop
the
good
neighbor
guide
and
the
good
neighbor
guide
has
meant
as
an
educational
tool,
to
spell
out
what
the
obligations
and
expectations
are
or
what
the
obligations
of
the
Builder
and
homeowner
are.
P
Our
property
owner
are
prior
to
doing
or
during
the
construction
process.
For
these
projects
it
also
lays
out
what
the
consequences
are
for
builders
and
property
owners
should
they
not
comply
with
city
bylaws.
As
a
result
of
this
work,
that's
in
front
of
you
today
we
will
be
going
back
to
these
same
groups
up
to
date.
The
good
neighbor
guide
to
incorporate
anything
new
that
comes
out
of
the
decisions
that
committee
and
council
will
make
as
a
result
of
this.
P
Another
piece,
I
would
add
is
that
in
the
chief
building
officials
office,
we've
set
up
a
renovators
roundtable
with
industry,
where
we
come
together
on
a
regular
basis
to
talk
about
issues
around
residential
infill
construction.
This
will
be
something
we'll
also
bring
up
there
to
reiterate
what
the
expectations
are
in
this
regard,
and.
A
I'll
just
add,
through
the
the
aspect
of
dealing
with
noise
and
the
work
we've
been
doing
for
quite
some
time
on
noise,
we're
engaged
with
other
industry
associations
as
well,
so
there's
absolutely
the
opportunity
to
leverage
on
both
of
those
fronts.
The
discussions
with
the
relevant
parties
on
the
appropriate
conduct
and
things
we
need
them
to
do
to
be
good,
neighbors
and.
I
B
You
is,
you
did
mention,
for
example,
build,
but,
and
then
of
course
they
are
part
of
the
construction
industry,
but
those
who
are
more
and
engaged
into
the
in
fields
and
once
again,
for
example,
we
have
them
the
construct,
the
construction
association
with
the
huge
membership
in
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
members,
as
well
as,
for
example,
de
la
Yuna
family
through
the
locals
183
vaio.
Six.
B
P
The
speaker,
the
good
neighbor
guide,
is
something
that's
handed
out
to
any
applicant
when
they
apply
for
a
permit,
which
includes
a
lot
of
these
groups.
That
you're
speaking
to
the
good
neighbor
guide,
is
also
on
our
website
that
anyone
can
look
at
and
download
that
information
I'd.
Also
just
sort
of
another
piece
that
may
be
helpful
in
this
regard
is
that
it
is
not
uncommon
for
Toronto
building
to
go
out
to
industry
groups
to
talk
about
the
building
permit
process.
B
B
Approval-
that's
that's
great,
even
even
though
risk-on
is
not
working
with
them,
we
hand
on
hand,
so
it's
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
we
can
just
get
that
information
to
the
Laguna
family
with
all
the
sectors
that
they
have
all
the
locals,
because
they
have
a
huge
membership,
as
you
know,
in
the
trades
and
skills,
and
they
are
the
ones
who
are
working
on
it,
we
well.
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
F
N
I'll
respond
to
that
just
quickly.
We
weren't
aware
of
those
two
two
regulations,
but
I
did
take
the
opportunity
to
quickly
review
them
today,
as
they
were
raised
by
the
the
deaf
students
that
Fort
Collins
in
particular,
works
in
a
very
similar
fashion
to
I
think
the
proposals
from
the
executive
director.
N
There
are
a
set
of
mandatory
mitigation
measures
for
certain
types
of
dust
that
included
restriction
of
access
to
the
site
and
where
the
dust
is
not
contained,
there
is
a
menu,
a
list
of
mitigation
measures
that
are
required,
not
all
of
them,
but
one
of
a
bunch
of
options
which
is
very
similar
to
the
analyst
proposal.
Okay,.
F
And
through
you,
mr.
chair
I'm,
just
wondering
again
asking
our
staff
about
this
photograph
here
of
the
demolition,
the
deputy,
who
provided
the
photographs
that
it
actually
took
two
weeks
to
do
all
the
work,
and
there
was
dust
for
two
weeks
but
is
the
require.
Is
there
a
requirement,
a
legal
requirement
to
report?
If
you
have
potentially
hazardous
materials
or
asbestos
in
the
building,
or
is
it
voluntary.
P
Through
the
speaker,
through
the
demolition
permit
process,
the
can
completes
a
document
that
where
they
have
to
disclose
whether
or
not
there's
asbestos
or
designated
substance
substances
on
the
site,
if
it
is
designated,
the
report
goes
to
Toronto
Public
Health,
who
work
with
the
applicant
to
develop
a
mitigation
plan.
So.
P
F
P
The
speaker,
that's
that
is
correct.
We
rely
on
their
judgment
in
that
regard.
That
said,
would,
through
the
inspection
process
of
inspectors,
sees
something
that
would
sort
of
cause
concerns.
They
would
identify
it
then,
and
they
would
also
refer
it
over
to
the
Ministry
of
Labour,
who
has
a
responsibility
for
the
protection
of
workers
on
the
site.
Okay,.
H
P
Through
the
speaker,
this
is
one
of
an
advantage
of
our
residential
infill
strategy,
so
part
of
after
the
permit
is
issued.
There's
an
introductory
inspection
that
happens
with
the
building
inspector,
the
Builder,
and
we
encourage
the
property
owner
to
attend
that
inspection
as
well.
During
that
inspection
is.
This
is
when
the
building
inspector
speaks
to
all
of
the
expectations
that
are
on
the
property
owner
when
they're
carrying
out
construction
as
well
as
speak
to
any
consequences.
Should
they
not
comply
at
that
time?
F
Speakers
I'd
like
to
speak
mr.
chair
and
I.
Don't
know
if
the
staff
have
my
motion
ready,
but
maybe
I
could
speak
in
the
staff.
Could
just
put
it
up
a
little
bit.
Then
I'll
tell
you
the
intent
of
the
motion.
If
that's
okay
is
there
any
other
speakers?
Okay,
Thank
You,
mr.
chair
I'm,
just
gonna
use
this
this
photograph
as
an
example,
even
though
this
is
more
of
a
demolition
than
some
of
the
concrete
work
that
the
other
deputy
showed
us.
F
I'm
gonna
move
one
motion
that
just
asked
staff
our
MLS
staff
to
work
with
other
city
departments
to
do
a
an
additional,
comprehensive
review
of
dust
that
that
would
be
a
comprehensive
and
consistent
regulation
for
all
of
the
circumstances.
I
think
I
understand
the
reasons
why
our
staff
sent
in
recommendation
three
and
four
that
this
bylaw,
which
I
support,
does
not
apply
to
municipal
work,
industrial
and
commercial
properties
and
does
not
apply
to
demolition.
I.
Think
I
understand
why
staff
put
that
in
there
and
so
I'm
supporting
this
report
and
accepting
it
with
some
amendments.
F
If
we
happen
to
be
out
on
in
the
backyard
that
day,
cutting
the
grass
or
just
going
about
our
business,
it's
the
other,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
the
staff
to
just
do
that:
review
and
report
back
to
the
appropriate
committees.
The
second
motion,
I'm
moving,
is
an
amendment
to
recommendation,
5c
and
I.
Think
what
our
recommendation
does
is
say
saying
it,
which
is
something
I
support.
Your
dust
should
not
trespass
onto
somebody
else's
property
and
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
what
our
staff
have
said
is
and
we're
giving
you
these
seven
different
techniques.
F
For
example,
you
have
options
of
what
you
can
do
and
I
understand
why
we
want
to
provide
that
flexibility,
but
what
I?
What
my
motion
will
do
is
say
that
for
these
certain
types
of
works
like
the
stone
cutting
you
have
to
use
either
a
wet
saw
or
a
dustless
saw
or
a
vacuum
attachment,
and
you
can
use
these
other
techniques
as
well,
because
I
think
when
we
look
at
the
photographs
there
we're
pretty
certain
when
somebody's
coming
in
with
a
saw
to
cut
stone.
F
There's
gonna
be
dust
and
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
it.
We
are
basically
saying
that
the
that
not
the
applicant,
but
the
contractor
is
innocent
until
proven
guilty,
because
one
of
the
deputies
who
came
here
today
might
actually
look
out
their
front
window
and
say
to
us
they
were
doing
a
big
construction
job
at
the
house
next
to
me,
and
they
are
going
to
trespass
all
of
their
dust
and
the
contaminants
are
going
to
trespass
onto
my
property
and
cause
me
harm
or
inconvenience
or
nuisance
and
I.
F
Think
our
inspectors
and
the
contractor
would
rightly
say
we
are
innocent
until
proven
guilty.
So
I
would
rather
be
a
little
bit
proactive
and
say
to
the
contractors
and
the
construction
companies.
If
you're
going
to
be
doing
some
of
this
heavy
duty
work
with
the
the
concrete
saws
you've
got
to
use
best
practices,
and
in
addition
to
that,
if
you
want
to
use
wetting
the
construction,
material
or
tarping
some
of
the
area
or
installing
a
wind
fence
or
other
preventative
measures,
you
should
do
those
as
well,
but
as
a
minimum
as
an
absolute
minimum.
F
You've
got
to
have
either
a
wet
saw,
a
dustless
saw
or
a
vacuum
attachment
that
assures
the
neighbors
and
our
professional
staff
that
you
start
cutting
that
laying
that
say
that
patio
of
that
interlocking
driveway
that
you've
got
something
there
that
is
going
to
control
the
dust
you
may
need
something
in
addition
to
that,
like
a
screen
so
that
the
dust
that
does
escape
doesn't
again
trespass
onto
my
property
but
I
think
we
would
start
in
a
better
place.
So
that's
the
motion.
F
I'm
moving
forward
now,
I
think
staff
are
working
on
the
exact
wording
and,
if
there's
any
amendments
that
need
to
be
done
before
council
to
make
sure
it's
clear
and
clarified,
then
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
But
that's
the
intent
of
my
two
motions
I
have
found
in
in
my
life
that
dust
isn't
just
a
nuisance
if
it
was
just
a
nuisance.
Most
of
us
would
just
say:
well:
I'm
gonna
have
an
extra
shower
today,
because
I'm
I've
got
this
stuff
covering
me
and
I'm.
Gonna
have
to
take
my
sprinkler
out
to
water.
F
My
grass,
a
little
bit
more
because
of
this
white
dust,
particulate
matter
that
has
settled
onto
my
grass,
but
my
life
experience
and
my
knowledge
of
these
things
being
a
MLS
member
and
a
policy
wonk
is
that
I
have
no
doubt
that
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
that
dust
that
you
don't
want
to
breathe
into
your
lungs
and
you
don't
want
your
kids
to
breathe
into
your
lungs.
So
if
we
can
contain
it,
on-site
I
think
that's
the
best
way
to
go
and
that's
why
I'm
moving
the
motion
to
say
step
one.
F
You
have
to
have
one
of
these
techniques
to
contain
it
on-site
and
like
this
example,
shows,
even
though
it's
a
demolition,
they
have
no
screening
on
their
temporary
fence.
So
contractors
perhaps
should
put
temporary
fencing
there,
but
at
a
minimum
they
should
use
other
techniques
Thank
You.
Mr.
chair,
thank.
B
F
B
F
A
report
request
and
then
the
second
one,
my
second
one
amends
5c.
Our
staff
for
5c
recommended
that
you
know
you
just
a
second.
You
can
use
one
or
a
combination
of
the
following
dust
control
measures
and
we
list
seven
of
them
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
executive
director.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
you
must
have
either
a
wet
saw,
a
ductless
saw
or
a
vacuum
attachment
so
that,
when
you
show
up
on
site,
I
know
that
you
actually
are
going
to
control
your
dust
but
which.
N
So,
just
to
clarify
this
motion
to
is
the
one
that
the
counselor
is
referencing.
The
difference
between
the
staff
recommendations
is
that
the
recommendations
there
was
a
set
of
options
and
the
contractor
would
have
the
choice
of
choosing
which
options
this
motion
would
make
these
three
mitigation
measures
mandatory
for
the
type
of
work
that
requires
those
those
materials
are
those
construction
techniques.
B
F
That's
correct,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
eliminate
any
of
those
seven
options,
but
what
I
do
say
is
that
you
have
to
use
either
a
wet
saw,
a
dustless
saw
or
a
vacuum
attachment
when
cutting,
and
you
can
also
use
all
the
other
techniques
that
the
staff
have
recommended.
So
some
are
mandatory.
Well,
at
least
one
is
at
least
one
is
mandatory
and
you
can
do
the
others
as
options.
B
And
this
you
are
not
because
you've
made
reference,
as
well
as
to
the
demolition
aspect
and
the
clouds
of
dust
that
comes
out
of
it,
and
but
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
it.
Sorry
could
you
repeat
the
questions
of
the
demolition
of
the
buildings
in
new
remarks?
You
made
comments
with
regards
to
creating
some
sort
of
fencing
screening
in
whatever
else,
yeah
ain't
that
the
does
by
using
whatever
technology
and
whatever
else
so
yeah.
C
F
C
The
thought
but
I
mean
we
got
all
kinds
of
contractors
that
are
working
on
the
weekends.
We've
got
all
kinds
of
contractors
that
are
unlicensed
contractors,
are
flying
from
north
of
steals
down
and,
and
they
put
stuff
up
and
you've
got
all
kinds
of
contractors
that
you
go
to
say
to
them.
What
you're
doing
is
not
appropriate,
they
just
rub
the
shoulders
say
no
English
I'm
just
wondering.
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
find
the
extra
amount
of
resources
that
require
in
order
for
in
order
to
police
this
I
I.
F
Think
we
will
and
I
think
part
of
the
reason
I
believe
we
will
and
this
motion
is
I'll
call
it
enforceable
is
because
most
people
do
obey
the
law.
So
there
are
very
many
good
contractors
out
there.
I'd
say
the
majority
of
contractors
are
good,
decent,
hard-working
people
who
will
obey
the
law
and
who
currently
do
obey
the
law.
There
are
always
some
I'll
call
it
fly-by-night
folks
who
will
ignore
all
the
bylaws
and
fly
in
from
from
north
of
this
from
Steeles
Avenue,
perhaps,
and
and
not
respect
our
laws.
C
Might
be
living
in
another
world
than
you
are,
however,
I
will
say
to
you
it's
quite
the
opposite
about
contractors
and
their
practices,
but
through
the
chair,
my
question
is:
do
we
have
the
budget
to
do
this?
I
mean
this
motion
I'm,
not
sure.
If
the
staff
can
answer
this,
do
we
have
the
budget
to
enforce
this?
Well.
J
J
It
is
a
situation
where
you
can
never
eliminate
the
dust
completely,
and
it's
a
one
time
I
mean
when
I'm
living
some
next
door
to
somebody
who's
constructing
a
new
house.
It's
once-in-a-lifetime
experience,
it
doesn't
happen
every
day
and
I
think
quite
a
few
measures
are
being
used
to
eliminate
dust
and
to
confine
itself
just
to
the
residential
component
and
not
other
construction
sites
is
beyond
my
comprehension.
I
mean
if
it's
a
problem.
J
It
should
be
applied
to
all
construction
sites,
because
somebody
is
walking
near
a
construction
site
and
somebody
lives
near
a
construction
site
and
to
confine
it
only
to
the
residential
area
to
me
is
just
a
little
bit
just
over
the
edge
so
I'm.
To
be
honest,
I'm
not
going
to
vote
against
this
particular
sorry,
I'm
not
going
to
support
this
particular
motion
because
I
think
giving
people
options
in
the
context
of
trying
to
be
good.
Neighbors
is
adequate
and
I.
Don't
think
we
should
push
any
further
than
that.
Thank
you.
C
Teacher,
you
know
we
all
live
in
in
different
neighborhoods
and
we
have
different
constraints
and
trials
tribulations
and
the
challenges
in
my
area.
I
do
have
a
neighborhood
on
the
south
part,
which
is
78
years
old
and
there's
a
lot
of
new
construction.
That's
got
buying
of
older
homes.
New
construction
going
on
in
the
northern
end,
I
have
houses
that
are
about
approaching
the
forty
year
mark
and
there's
a
lot
of
renovations
that
are
being
done
and
I'm
finding
a
lot
of
fly
nights.
C
C
So
unless
we
we
give
the
budget
to
to
our
MLS
staff
to
be
able
to
do
this,
it's
nice
to
put
motions
and
it's
nice
to
respond,
but
when
it's
a
weekend
and
somebody
is
laying
bricks
on
a
on
the
driveway
and
they're
they're
cutting
and
somebody
calls
the
complaints
and
we
only
have
one
or
two
by
law.
Officers
for
the
whole
city,
I
mean
the
former
city
of
Scarborough
I.
Don't
think
this
will
be
enforceable.
C
I
need
to
make
sure
that
if
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
enforcing
this,
that
we
lay
we
levy
stiff
fines,
expression
to
the
flying's
and
I
will
tell
you
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
live
in
a
different
part
of
town,
but
I
have
more
flying
nights
than
good
contractors.
I
have
more
people
that
you
go
and
approach
them
and
say
you
know
like
you're,
creating
a
nuisance
and
they
look
at
you
instruct
the
shoulder
to
say:
I,
don't
speak
no
English
and
then,
when
you
say
well,
you
might
be
getting
a
ticket.
C
The
English,
although
really
oh,
all,
of
a
sudden
comes
in
so
I,
don't
think
we
have
enough
bile
officers.
So
it's
nice
to
make
accolades
and
it's
nice
to
say
we're
gonna.
Do
things
we're
probably
in
the
eve
of
an
election.
But
the
point
is
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
staff
have
those
resources
if
something
is
happening
in
two
or
three
different
areas
of
the
former
city
of
Scarborough
and
the
bile
officers
need
to
respond
well
with
one
by
law
officer
on
the
weekend.
C
There's
no
way
that
you
can
do
this
and
a
lot
of
the
construction,
if
you
want
to
avoid
being
caught,
is
done
on
the
weekend.
So
it's
nice
for
us
to
sit
here
and
say:
let's
do
this
in!
Let's
do
that,
but
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
when
staff
come
and
say
we
need
the
budget
to
have
the
bile
officers
that
we
respond
to
that.
C
Unfortunately,
in
the
climate
of
we're
not
gonna,
raise
your
taxes
in
the
climate
of
that
we're
not
going
to
be
we're,
gonna
be
cutting
back
services
and
everything
else,
with
the
only
thing
that
we
can
talk
in
this
chamber,
and
it's
just
talk
about
it
and
they
will
get
away
with
it
and
they
know
that
they're
getting
away
with
it.
They
know
that
they
do
not
have
to
make
applications
to
resurface
their
drivers.
They
know
they
don't
have
to
make
applications
to
to
tear
down
inside
the
house.
C
We
need
to
have
boots
on
the
ground
in
order
for
us
to
control
it.
There
was
a
wild
wild
west
out
there
and
saying
that
contractors
are
good
well,
probably
in
in
theory,
but
I'll
tell
you
if
I
were
to
join
you
in
a
drive
around
your
word
or
my
word,
we'll
find
a
lot
of
contracts
that
are
fly-by-nights.
Thank
you
mr.
chair.
Thank.
B
You
and
your
speakers,
if
not
I,
have
one
recommendation
we
have
it
on
screen.
Please,
in
essence,
is
sharing
information
that
that's
before
us
and
with
other
organizations
like
them
and
they
were
tell
you-
have
instead
asking
the
chief
building
official
and
say
executive
director
municipal
licensing,
to
request
to
share
the
guidelines
with
a
construction
with
the
trans
construction
association
with
Toronto
and
the
uniformity
and
all
the
locals
that
they
have
and
so
on.
B
I
think
that's
what
information
that
should
be
conveyed
to
them
as
well
and
with
regard
to
recommendation
to
My
dear
colleague,
the
deputy
mayor
is
I
believe
that
the
recommendations
a
little
bit
too
prescriptive,
in
my
opinion,
that
telling
contractors
exactly
what
to
do
and
I
think
the
intention
or
the
intentions
or
the
recommendations
within
the
report
are
very
clear
and
I.
Think
that
that's
enforceable
as
well
so
I,
rather
probably
go
over
there
is
I,
won't
be
able
to
support
recommendation
number
two.
B
For
the
other
reasons.
My
colleagues
also
indicated,
and
my
humble
opinion
once
again
is
too
prescriptive
and
we
cannot
tell
people
how
to
do
their
jobs.
We
are
just
having
them.
This
is
a
law
in
our
abide
by
it,
and
so
that's
those
are
my
comments
and
we
have
some
recommendations
to
vote
on
it.
Thank
you.
B
So
we
have
conditioned
from
we
had
two
recommendations
from
the
deputy
mayor.
The
first
one
is
all
those
a
favor
I
think
that
we
saw
that
one
yeah
I
think
that's
it
yeah,
all
those
in
favor
against
the
next
recommendation.
All
those
in
favor
against
it
doesn't
carry
right.
There
is
another
one
and
from
the
up
from
the
chair
is
there
from
the
chef
on
the
chair
that
we
have
Auto
survival
against
carry
item
as
amended
all
those
available
against
carry.
We
have
just
one
item
and
that's
there
are
two
items.
B
The
first
one
is
from
the
deputy
mayor
and
that's
the
communication
that
was
clear
to
everyone
is
okay.
We
have
a
motion
from
Castle
to
Georgia
to
adopt
any
speakers
on
this
one:
okay,
all
those
in
favor
against
Kerry
and
other
communication
from
my
dear
colleague,
the
Vice
Chair
sir,
if
I
may
very
Janice.
Yes,
thank
you.
C
It
would
be
30
seconds
sure
I
had
the
opportunity
to
distribute
my
break.
My
communication
to
you
to
other
colleagues
and
I
would
ask
that
if
they
want
to
speak
to
it,
there
were
support
or
gates
or
whatever
I
know
what
you
can.
The
staff
is
saying
you
cannot
introduce
it.
However,
we
do
have
changes
that
are
occurring
in
the
provincial
legislature
and
those
changes
are
the
way
that
cannabis
will
be
distributed.
C
The
way
that
cannabis
will
be
dealt
with
and
therefore
what
I
am
asking
in
this
motion,
I'm,
not
sure
if
staff
can
put
it
up.
I'd
appreciate,
if
they
do,
is
that
we
ask
the
licensing
table
to
look
at
the
cannabis
lounges.
We
we
ask
that
the
province,
the
staff
engage
the
province
to
see
the
regulations
and
how
they
would
affect
the
City
of
Toronto.
The
fact
that
cannabis,
sales
and
distribution
is
going
to
be
dealt
with
in
different.
We
might
be
dealt
in
a
different
fashion.