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North York Community Council, meeting 7, June 25, 2019
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0:07:21 - Call to order
A
B
Morning,
everybody
we
have
quorum,
I
like
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
North
York
Community
Council,
to
order
welcome
to
members
of
the
committee
and,
of
course,
members
of
the
public.
We
acknowledge
the
land
we
are
meeting
on.
It's
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga
of
the
credit,
the
ashram
bag,
Chippewa
Hana
schody,
the
wind
up
people's
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First
Nations
Inuit
matey
people.
They
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto
is
covered
by
treaty.
B
Thirteen
of
the
Mississauga
of
the
credit,
all
members
of
the
public
and,
of
course,
members
of
council.
You
can
follow
the
meeting
on
your
computer
tablet
or
smartphone
at
Toronto,
dot,
say
a
back
slash,
council
and
just
a
reminder.
These
sessions
are
being
videotaped.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
end
of
the
municipal
conflict
about
interest
at
none?
B
B
Item
number
10
preliminary
report,
zoning
bylaw
amendment
25,
77,
2581,
Yonge,
Street
its
councillor
Robinson.
It's
also
just
scheduled
community
consultation,
which
I'm
sure
she
has
no
objection
to
so
I
would
have
councillor
Carroll.
If
you
could
move
the
staff
recommendations,
all
those
in
favor
hosed
that
is
carry.
B
B
C
B
Parking
regulations-
tipic
Road-
that
is
my
ward
and
I'll,
move
the
staff
recommendations.
All
those
in
favor
posed
that
is
carried
item
number
15,
always
stop
controlled
salt,
Avenue
and
muller,
and
mohammad
mahal
and
avenue
counts.
Your
cool
staff
recommendations
being
moved
all
those
in
favor
posed
and
is
carried
item
16
always
stop
control
at
Mildenhall
road
and
dollish
avenue.
B
B
Staff
recommendations
mood
for
Steve
at
first
speed
reduction,
all
those
in
favor
hosed
that
is
carried
number
eighteen
parking
amendments,
blitzed
gate,
bouncer,
Carol
I'm
sure
did
I
get
that
right.
A
street
name
like
that.
Okay,
the
recommendations
are
being
moved,
its
parking
prohibitions,
all
those
in
favor
hosed
that
is
carried.
B
D
B
C
C
B
The
control
signals
so
we're
gonna
hold
21
down
for
debates,
22
traffic
control
signals,
Danny,
Bathurst
and
carpenter,
intersection,
carpenter,
Road,
fish,
eval
to
walk
I.
Guess
it's
a
motion.
A
letter
from
my
office,
I'm
gonna,
move
the
recommendations.
It's
to
have
staff
review.
The
safety
of
this
intersection.
B
C
B
In
favor
pose
that
is
carried
item
number
23,
speed,
limit
reduction
on
Lord,
Lord,
Seton
Road.
This
is
councillor,
Robinson
I
think
we
should
move
it
and
if
she
has
a
problem
then
she
can
we'll
reopen
later.
But
let's,
let's
dispose
of
the
item
councillor
Carroll.
Did
you
want
to
move
these
recommendations?
I'll.
B
B
Okay,
we'll
hold
item
number
24
down
and
hopefully
councillor
Robinson
will
arrive
by
then
item
number
25.
This
is
in
my
area.
This
is
assumption
of
services,
main
keys,
Holdings,
Inc,
55
min
Tibby's
Drive.
This
was
a
townhome
development
and
city
is
assuming
various
services
in
the
area.
All
those
in
favor
I'm,
moving
staff
recommendations
opposed
that
is
Carrie.
B
E
So
what
are
some
of
the
concerns
basically
have
to
do
with
some
items
related
to
traffic
concerns
traffic
issues,
traffic
issues
that
currently
exist
and
have
been
getting
worse
over
the
last
three
four
years
basically
have
to
do
right
now
currently
and
that
there
will
be
exacerbated
by
this
is
the
fact
that
we
do
not
have
an
advanced
left
turn
lane
coming
towards
young
on
Shepard
going
west
and
wanting
to
make
a
left
turn
into
Yeomans.
So
what
happens
at
the
rush
hour
and
has
happened?
E
Many
many
times
is
that
all
of
the
traffic
going
east
on
Shepard
wants
to
make
it
through
a
yellow
light,
and
none
of
the
left
Turner's
can
make
it.
They
actually
obstruct
the
lane,
and
that
has
been
getting
worse
and
worse.
It
is
really
bad
during
the
winter.
It
is
equally
bad
in
the
summer,
and
the
worst
hours
that
I
have
observed
are
really
between
4:30
and
6:30.
So
that
is
a
situation
that
is
bad
now
has
been
aggravating
for
it
for
the
past
3-4
years
and
will
be
getting
worse.
E
Another
issue
that
I
want
to
raise
with
regards
to
the
to
the
the
proposed
development
is
the
way
that
I
mean
logically,
it
may
make
sense,
but
when
looking
at
the
current
situation,
how
is
going
to
be
aggravated?
It
may
not
make
sense.
Is
that
the
the
driveway
coming
out
from
701
Sheppard
Avenue
West,
the
vehicular
driveway,
is
being
lined
up
with
this
development
access,
driveway
vehicular
driveway,
which
may
make
sense
in
sort
of
looking
at
a
plan,
but
it
does
not
make
sense
in
terms
of
the
current
situation
on
Yeomans.
E
What
the
current
situation
on
the
human's
case
is
that
the
the
segment
of
it
between
on
Yeomans
between
Alexis
and
Shepherd
has
parking
on
both
sides
and
the
road
is
already
very
narrow.
So
in
the
winter,
it's
very,
very
bad
to
get
traffic
at
least
one
lane
of
traffic
going
in
either
direction
and
and
equally
in
the
summer
that
is
going
to
be
greatly
exacerbated
when
there
is
another
project
with
another
exit
there.
So
we
have
difficulty
now
turning
left
into
Yeomans
and
turning
right
into
our
development
and
our
neighbors
across
the
street.
E
In
this
new
development
will
have
the
reverse
issue,
but
the
same
issue
and
the
third
problem
that
I
want
to
raise
is
the
fact
that,
during
construction,
because
of
all
of
these
issues
during
construction,
this
project
should
not
take
over
yeoman
Street
for
construction.
It
should
be
self-contained
within
its
site
that
that
would
be
a
real,
real
concern.
E
Since
there
is
some
time
and
and
and
hopefully
we
at
7:01
Sheppard
Avenue
s
will
hear
about
remedies
that
are
being
made,
but
the
first
one
that
can
be
made
right
away,
because
in
fact
the
stoplight
at
Yeomans
and
Sheppard
has
the
space
in
it
for
an
advanced
left
from
Sheppard
into
Yeomans.
That
will
be
the
the
first
thing
to
to
to
deal
with
right
now,
and
it
would
alleviate
our
situation
immediately.
With
regard
to
this
one
particular
point,
thank
you
for
your
attention.
Well,.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
have
a
couple
questions
for
clarity,
so
we
can
work
on
this
traffic
situation,
but
do
any
other
members
have
questions
for
the
deficits?
No,
so
the
the
advanced
green
Yeomans
Shepherd
I'm
familiar
with
that
intersection.
Your
are
you
talking
about
westbound
traffic.
That's.
E
E
B
E
Actually,
what
happens
very
often
is
that
you've
got
construction
trucks.
You've
got
concrete
trucks
lining
up
on
the
street;
sometimes
they
even
take
a
part
of
the
road
for
delivery
of
materials,
and
what
I'm
saying
is
that,
given
the
current
situation,
the
construction
of
this
project
has
to
be
self-contained
within
their
lands
within
their
property,
not
take
over
the
sidewalk,
and
they
end
the
street.
B
On
Yeomans
yeah,
okay,
I
read
you
loud
and
clear.
Those
are
those
are
very
valid
comments.
I'm,
going
to
be
talking
with
our
transportation
team
to
see
what
we
can
do
about
studying
a
potential
left-hand
turn
advanced
and,
of
course,
with
every
construction
project.
There
is
a
construction
safety
management
plan
that
has
to
be
approved
and
we
also
can
enforce
the
bylaws
as
far
as
idling
as
far
as
starting
work
before
the
the
bylaw
requirements
and
there's
there's
ways
to
enforce
that.
So
I.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
to
to
our
attention.
Thank.
B
B
D
F
D
D
A
D
A
Site
is
quite
large,
so
in
terms
of
phasing
construction
on
site
I,
imagine
that
majority
of
the
construction
staging
will
be
on
site,
but
as
in
every
construction
site,
there
might
be
the
requirement
for
some
sort
of
permitting
required
for
Boulevard
access
for
construction.
It
really
depends
on
their
plan
in
terms
of
where
they're
gonna
get
access
from
whether
it's
Shepherd
or
Yeomans
we've.
Yet
to
see
the
construction
management
plan,
but
I
think.
Given
the
concern
and
the
sensitivity
surrounding
that,
that's.
A
D
Almost
they
tend
to
get
really
lacks
at
that
point,
because
the
big
volume
trucks,
the
the
foundation
is
gone
and
all
that,
but
there
there
are
a
bazillion
light
delivery
trucks
everywhere
in
the
neighborhood,
because
that's
they're
all
coming
in
single
vehicles.
So
if
that
could
be
discussed,
I
think
it
would
go
a
long
way
to
dealing
with
this
small
neighborhood
street.
That's
sort
of
right
beside
a
major
artery
they're,
obviously
gonna
they're
gonna
Park
on
the
neighborhood
streets.
D
It's
sort
of
what's
happening
in
the
area
on
the
south
side
of
Sheppard
over
in
my
area.
Right
now,
and
it
tends
to
happen
in
the
town
of
those
developments.
There's
then
this
giant
supply
of
small
vehicles
everywhere,
because
every
construction
they
can't
carpool
for
some
reason.
So
if
that
could
be
the
undertaking,
I,
don't
think
you
need
a
motion,
just
a
commitment
from
staff
that
they'll
they'll
look
dress
that
in
the
construction
plan,
mm-hmm.
D
A
There
are
a
number
of
applications
in
this
along
this
corridor
that,
and
we
know
that
there
are
servicing
constraints.
We've
been
approaching
them
right
now
on
a
site
by
site
basis,
but
we
have
discussed
in
our
with
our
colleagues
in
ECS
about
whether
or
not
it
would
be
appropriate
to
do
a
holding
provision
along
the
corridor.
I
can
only
recall
now
that
we've
done
two
in
the
area
with
a
holding
provision.
There
are
a
couple
that
are
before
the
tribunal
as
well.
B
So
these
I
guess
there's
several
applicants
of
long
Sheppard
that
have
asked
whether
they
could
work
together
to
meet
the
sanitary
servicing
solution.
In
other
words,
work
on
a
joint
project
for
upgrade
of
sanitary.
Are
staff
engaged
in
that
way
to
to
make
that
happen
to
make
sure
they
could
proceed
on
a
cost
share
basis,
yeah
yeah.
A
F
D
This
has
become
the
clarion
call
that
we
that,
in
the
construction
management
plan,
we
we
address
beyond
heavy
vehicles
and
have
parking
regulations
and
and
a
management
plan
all
the
way
to
the
end
of
construction,
because
it's
that
second
stage
of
construction
after
the
large
vehicles,
where
they
tend
to
start
to
disregard
the
plan
we've
made
and
we
end
up
relying
on
the
police
and
wasting
their
time
to
get
enforcement.
So
what
I
ask
those
questions?
I'm,
hoping
that
staff
will
undertake
to
really
make
a
difference
here
and
establish
a
pattern
going
forward?
B
C
Just
follows
due
to
the
proximity
of
the
site
to
the
401
ramp,
that
the
appropriate
City
staff
and
their
review
of
this
application
consider
eliminating
all
parking
if
the
access
is
offering
today
Avenue
or
greatly
reducing
the
parking
to
allow
access
off
Bayview
and
that's
simply
because
the
site
is
practically
at
the
401
ramp.
And
it's
going
to
be
really
difficult
to
get
approval.
To
put
it
that
closely.
One
solution
would
be
to
greatly
reduce
the
number
of
parking
spots
and
therefore
the
number
of
cars.
D
A
B
B
B
B
B
Recommendations
but
I'm
sorry
I,
thought
I
I
thought.
Maybe
you
were
considering
some
questions
for
staff,
so
item
7.2
final
report,
official
plan,
amendment
zoning
amendment
160,
Sheppard,
Avenue,
West,
the
local
councillors
move
staff
recommendations,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that
is
carried
item
number
three
final
report:
zoning
bylaw
amendment
application
11
in
1925,
29
industrial
street.
This
is
councillor
Robinson.
A
Name
is
Joshua
butcher,
I'm
a
planner
with
boughs
fields
and
we're
the
planning
consultants
to
first
capital,
Realty,
the
owner
and
applicant
behind
this
rezoning
application
to
expand
the
Leeside
Village
Shopping
Center.
We
have
reviewed
the
staff
report.
We
agree
with
all
the
recommendations
and
I'm
just
merely
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
may
arise
for
the
applicant
on
this
rezoning
application.
Thank
you
all.
B
I
G
A
You,
mr.
chair,
they
are
designated
employment
lines.
However,
there
was
a
site-specific
policy
that
applied
to
this
land
in
particular
that
allows
the
retail
uses,
as
we've
had
in
some
cases,
and
this
was
a
result
of
a
settlement
under
OPA
231.
So
this
application
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
to
bring
the
zoning
in
conformity
with
the
Official
Plan
policies
right.
D
I
I
A
A
I
B
B
C
B
B
B
I
I
H
I
I
I
B
H
B
I
D
H
D
B
F
J
Tlc
submitted
a
letter
of
concern
on
this
item
to
community
council
dated
June
the
20th
expressing
concern
with
approval
of
the
CBA
for
this
site
on
the
basis
of
insufficient
space
in
local
schools,
to
accommodate
students
anticipated
from
growth
in
the
Midtown
area.
City
staff
recommended
that
council
direct
legal
staff
to
attend
at
the
L
pad
to
support
approval
subject
to
a
number
of
conditions
and
those
conditions
would
have
the
L
Pat
withhold
its
order
until
the
conditions
are
satisfied.
J
J
Tlc
is
diligently
participating
in
as
many
l-pad
proceedings
as
possible
regarding
Midtown
development.
Application
appeals
in
order
to
consistently
address
the
cumulative
impact
of
development
in
the
area
on
school
accommodation,
Community,
Council
and
council
are
certainly
aware
of
the
context
for
this
engagement.
J
Significant
intensification
and
population
growth
is
presenting
serious
accommodation
challenges
within
a
catchment
area
that
is
already
over
capacity.
The
cumulative
student
yield
of
this
growth
is
hundreds
of
elementary
and
secondary
school
students,
and
those
yields
do
not
even
account
for
the
provinces.
Recent
changes
to
OPA
405
the
Midtown
plan,
which
will
permit
even
greater
intensification
in
the
longer
term,
a
new
Elementary
School
will
be
needed
in
Midtown.
In
the
shorter
term,
TDSB
must
find
accommodation
in
existing
facilities,
where
possible.
J
Finding
accommodation
in
the
shorter
term
may
involve
a
mix
of
physical
improvements,
school
boundary
changes
and
programming
changes,
all
of
which
is
being
studied.
Now
the
TDSB
has
commenced
the
young
Eglinton
phase,
two
program
area,
review
or
par
a
process
that
requires
study
of
options
in
light
of
known
and
anticipated
development
applications,
public
input
and,
ultimately
Board
of
Trustees
approval.
The
TLC
seeks
to
align
implementation
of
changes
approved
through
the
power
process,
with
the
timing
of
development
so
as
to
resolve
accommodation,
deficiencies
to
the
extent
possible
short
of
a
new
school.
J
The
provision
of
adequate
school
facilities
in
a
manner
that
is
coordinated
with
the
granting
of
approvals
for
development
is
what
provincial
policy
requires
and
what
the
city
city's
official
plan
ignite
is
essential
to
providing
complete
communities.
Accordingly,
the
TLC
respectfully
requests
the
community
councils
support.
The
resolution
requested
at
the
outset
of
my
deputation
and
to
be
pleased
to
repeat
that
request.
If
that
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
B
I
A
I
I
Okay,
and
at
that
session,
they
were
very
open
and
transparent
about
John
Fisher
effect,
I
call
it
and
that
that
really
was
symbolic
of
many
things
when
a
35-story
tower
was
approved
beside
a
very
small
grade
school.
My
understanding
from
the
staff
at
that
presentation
is
that
really
you're
here
now
partially
because
of
the
John
Fisher
experience,
and
so
that
really
inspired
these
policies
that
the
TDSB
is
now
an
active
partner
when
developments
are
popping
up
and
there's
capacity
issues.
Is
that
correct
through
the
chair.
J
In
part,
Fisher
involves
impacts
on
the
school
facility
from
adjacent
development.
It's
something
of
a
separate
issue
from
the
overall
accommodation
question.
What's
really
driving
my
attendance
here
today
and
the
TLC's
participation
both
in
appeals
at
the
L
pad
and
the
application
process
is
simply
the
over
capacity
issue.
Not
every
school
will
have
a
development
compatibility
concern
like
Fisher
does,
but
for
sure
every
application
in
the
Midtown
area
and
the
Davisville
area
is
raising
the
capacity
issue.
Okay,.
D
J
D
J
Focus
right
now
through
the
chair.
The
focus
right
now
is
on
what
I
would
call
the
hotspots,
so
certainly
young
Eglinton,
the
Davisville
area,
High
Park,
is
another
hot
spot
where
there's
such
a
high
concentration
of
growth.
That
capacity
simply
cannot
keep
up.
So
it's
a
multi
prong
effort
by
TLC
to
intervene
in
the
problem,
not
only
at
El
Pat
proceedings,
but
also
in
the
application
process
and
even
earlier
in
the
city's
various
policy
planning
processes.
So.
D
We're
the
hotspots
discussed
with
the
board
the
reason
I'm
asking,
because
my
word
has
most
of
the
Shepherd's
subway
in
it
and
where
we've
asked
the
board
to
become
a
party
to
hearings,
whether
el
pat
system
or
OMB.
This
is
a
today
we're
looking
at
it.
This
is
76
additional
units,
I
had
600
additional
units
and
couldn't
get
the
board
to
register
to
be
a
party
despite
multiple
urgings
by
myself
in
the
community
planner.
D
D
D
J
Very
much
so
through
the
chair
is
certainly
an
intention
to
have
communication
with
with
all
of
the
offices.
There
is
a
program
of
ongoing
discussion
with
City
Planning
around
the
accommodation
issue.
There
have
been
a
number
of
information
sessions
held
with
City,
Planning
and
legal
around
the
accommodation
problem,
the
sorts
of
conditions
of
approval
that
TLC
would
be
looking
for
to
deal
those
problems,
and
the
TLC
will
also
be
having
information
sessions
with
the
counselors
and
trustees
over
the
summer.
J
D
D
We
don't
actually
have
the
toolkit
to
refuse
a
development
on
the
basis
of
school
capacity.
We
needed
a
whole
bunch
of
other
reasons
to
do
that,
but
going
to
the
party
and
having
having
additional
parties
at
every
hearing.
Now
the
new
OMB
to
drive
the
point
home
and
be
negotiating
directly
to
that
province
into
that
developer
is
really
the
way
forward,
and
is
it
going
to
be?
Is
that
going
to
be
clear
to
the
trustees
so
that
they
do
their
politicking
at
the
right
government
through.
J
The
chair,
the
engagement
of
TLC
and
the
planning
process,
as
I've
described,
is
in
accordance
with
Board
of
Trustees
direction.
They're
fully
informed
of
what
is
unfolding.
I'll
respectfully
disagree
with
you
in
terms
of
having
the
planning
tools.
We
believe
there
are
the
policy
hooks
in
both
provincial
policy
and
the
city's
official
plan
to
hold
up
development
on
the
basis
of
insufficient
capacity
in
schools.
It
hasn't
yet
been
tested
in
a
hearing
at
the
tribunal,
so
we'll
see
where
that
goes.
J
J
G
J
Through
the
chair
I'm
not
aware
of
an
official
response
from
TLC,
yet
on
bill,
108
or
OPA
405,
frankly,
I
think
the
changes
to
OPA
405
are
still
being
digested
and
will
have
to
be
considered
in
terms
of
the
program
area
review,
both
the
one
ongoing
and
future
reviews.
It's
a
constantly
moving
cycle
of
reviews.
G
J
Through
the
chair,
are
you
referring
to
signs
that
say
you
may
not?
Have
your
children
accommodated
in
the
local
school
I
believe
we
are
I'll
just
check
with
my
colleagues
they're
nodding,
yes,
and
that
historically
has
sometimes
been
as
far
as
the
school
board
would
go,
but
now,
with
the
intense
capacity
issues,
it's
not
enough
to
simply
say
you
may
not
be
accommodated
in
the
local
area.
So.
G
J
Could
you
do
well?
In
the
past,
the
TLC
has
or
TDSB
has
used
warning
clauses,
as
required
warning
clauses
and
the
various
agreements
that
residents
of
a
new
development
would
sign.
But
now
the
TLC
is
involved
in
the
development
approval
process
from
the
outset.
I
don't
know
that
that
filters
through
to
residents
if
development
is
ultimately
approved,
but
the
goal
of
the
TLC
is
to
ensure
that
the
timing
of
development
approvals
is
better
aligned
with
the
provision
of
the
infrastructure.
Yeah.
G
And
I
just
wondering
whether
it
would
help
you
and
your
efforts
to
alert
the
public
to
the
fact
is
that
when
they
buy
a
condo,
especially
in
the
young
Eglinton
area,
a
young
Davisville
area
that
there
won't
be
accommodation
available
and
I
mean,
would
it
help
if,
like
I'm,
considering
the
city
issuing
a
similar
sign
or
posting
a
similar
sign
at
all
future
developments
than
the
young
Anglophone
areas?
Councillor
robinson
said
where
we
might
say
a
warning:
you
can't
get
on
the
subway
in
the
morning.
You
have
to
wait
for
six
subway
cars.
G
There
is
no
parks
in
this
area.
Traffic
is
horrible
and
just
be
careful
before
you
buy
a
condo
in
those
condo
crush
areas
of
the
city.
Would
that
help
perhaps
in
getting
the
message
across
the
people,
especially
in
light
of
bill
108,
which
basically
and
ripping
up
of
Midtown
focus
we're
going
to
get
so
many
applications
nevermind
the
John
Fisher
OMB
application
again.
G
So
would
that
help
you
if
we
perhaps
started
posting
our
own
signs
about
warning
people,
don't
buy
a
condo
in
these
areas,
or
else
don't
complain
to
us
after
the
fact
that
there's
traffic
there's
no
parks
and
can't
get
my
kid
in
the
school?
So
would
that
help
you
in
your
efforts
to
basic
educate
the
public
about
what's
happening
with
this
condo
crush
through.
G
B
B
B
So
I
guess
in
the
eight
years
I've
been
here,
I,
don't
think
we've.
Maybe
we've
had
one
person
from
the
TDSB
come
into
pew.
You
may
be
the
second
or
third
person
there.
Just
didn't
seem
any
being
an
interest
in
our
planning
files,
and
rarely
do
we
get
any
correspondence
and
I'm.
Looking
at
your
letter
now
I
mean
it's.
The
only
a
letter
I
can
really
remember
ever
receiving
in
the
last
eight
years.
There
just
didn't
seem
to
be
any
interest
from
the
TDSB
is
that
is
that
changing.
J
Certainly,
sir,
since
I've
been
engaged
over
the
last
two
years,
there's
been
quite
active
involvement.
I
think
you
would
find
there
have
been
a
number
of
written
and
oral
submissions
to
community
councils,
both
here
and
and
in
the
High
Park
area.
So
whatever
the
past
status
might
be
absolutely
there's
an
active
engagement.
Now
the
TLC
has
sought
party
status
in
every
El
Pat.
B
So
when
we
established
the
Toronto
Lands
corporation,
when
I
was
there
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
it
was
to
dispose
of
non-performing
assets,
real
estate
assets,
because
empty
schools
and
other
vacant
properties
that
were
constantly
tediously
money
and
those
the
funds
derived
from
that
were
to
be
put
into
a
capital
fund
to
build
in
to
build
capacity
and
in
high-stress
areas.
Is
that
no
longer
the
philosophy
of
the
chilling
DLC
I.
B
Just
very
quickly,
there
was
at
one
point
a
provincial
fun.
Well
I!
Guess
it's
gone
under
the
current
administration
that,
if
you
could,
if
you
could
prove
that
a
school
was
in
such
a
poor
state
of
good
repair
that
was
basically
dilapidated.
You
could
tap
this
fund
for
the
building
of
of
a
new
new
school.
It
was.
It
was
25.
50
million
dollar
fund.
Is
that
funds
still
available
for
you
to
build
capacity
I'll
just.
B
J
A
process
that
TDSB
has
been
engaging
in
for
many
years
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
sir,
where
they
look
at
past
experience
from
developments
and
the
yields
from
those
and
they
look
at
future.
Demographics
who
is
in
the
area
generally
who's
anticipated
to
come
into
the
area,
and
they
use
that
demographic
information
to
generate
yield
factors
on
a
fairly
geographically
specific
basis
throughout
the
city.
So
it
is
a
projection,
but
it's
a
well-informed
projection.
B
I
Basically,
what
we're
recommending
is
that
we
approve
the
staff
report
along
with
it
with
this
amendment,
and
the
amendment
is
that
we
direct
the
city
lustre,
an
appropriate
City
staff
to
continue
to
work
with
the
TDSB
to
secure
appropriate
conditions
of
approval,
including
potentially
a
holding
symbol
H
regarding
the
provision
of
public
school
facilities
to
accommodate
students
generated
from
this
development.
So
that's
my
motion
that
was
written
by
the
city
lawyer
and
the
planners
are
on
board
with
this,
and
my
understanding
is.
The
TDSB
has
also
reviewed
this
motion
and
are
also
comfortable
with
it.
I
So
my
understanding
is
all
parties
are
on
board.
With
this
motion,
I
would
just
say
that
I'm
very
happy
to
see
the
Toronto
lands
Corp
here,
thrilled,
actually
I
feel
this
is
long
overdue
and
I
have
to
refer
back
to
john
fisher
and
what
we
went
through
on
that
development
when
the
TDSB
decided
not
to
register
as
a
party
and
the
city
was
left
kind
of
holding
the
bag,
even
though
it
was
basically
on
top
of
a
school.
I
A
very
precious
school,
quite
frankly,
a
wonderful
school
French
language
school
in
our
city,
so
we
heard
from
the
tunnel
lands
wrap
that
maybe
partially
it
John
Fisher
influenced
their
participation.
But
my
understanding
from
the
TDSB
planners
is
it
very
much
has
influenced
their
decision
to
now
register
as
a
party
as
they
see
fit,
particularly
in
the
young
Eglinton
area.
Where
I
you
know,
my
colleagues
have
heard
it
over
and
over
again
about
the
infrastructure
issues,
challenges
the
lack
of
green
space,
the
lack
of
community
centers
libraries
parks,
fire
stations.
I
Whatever
you
want
to
choose,
it's
there's
a
lack
of
it
there.
My
biggest
beef
is
the
two
things
the
locker
greenspace,
because
that
makes
neighborhoods
livable
but
also
transit
and
as
the
chair
of
the
TTC
I've
worked
collaboratively
with
many
stakeholder
groups,
including
Sarah,
which
is
the
South
Eglinton
residents
association
they're
here
today,
Andy
quartz
in
the
audience
and
he's
on
board
with
both
the
motion.
All
the
motions
before
us
today
representing
a
very
broad.
You
know,
group
of
residents,
but
they've
done.
I
This
associations
done
a
lot
of
work
on
assessing
transit,
particularly
at
Yonge
and
Eglinton.
Now
and
in
the
future-
and
it's
very
when
you
look
at
the
map
of
what's
coming,
there's
a
lot
being
built
at
Yonge
and
Eglinton,
but
what's
coming
is,
is
frightening,
literally
terrifying
and
councillor.
Cole
and
I
face
this
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
I
Last
week,
I
was
struggling
with
a
very
aggressive
development
at
a
hundred
100
to
120
Broadway
about
800
units
and
I
wished.
You
had
been
at
the
table
on
that,
but
I'm
happy
to
see
you
this
week
at
the
table
and
I
hope.
You'll
keep
your
eye
on
that
application.
I
will
be
in
touch
with
you
about
that.
I
I
We
you
know
we
move
this
along,
but
at
the
same
time
work
with
the
TDSB
to
review
this,
whether
it's
the
planners,
our
city,
solicitor
and
and
myself
as
a
local
councillor
with
local
residents
associations
who
are
very
active
and
engaged,
and
thank
goodness
for
that,
because
they
do
a
terrific
job.
So
thank
you.
Mr.
chair.
G
These
are
adults
that
are
in
danger
every
day
if
they
try
across
that
intersection,
which
the
construction
of
the
Eglinton
crosstown,
the
condo
construction,
that's
taking
place
all
up
and
down
Yonge
Street
and
along
and
more
to
come.
So
I
think
this
is
a
very
timely
deputation,
I,
totally
totally
support
councillor
Robinson's
motion
and
I
just
think
you
know
as
certain
parts
of
the
city
it
it
doesn't
happen
everywhere
and
I
mean,
if
you're
fortunate
enough
to
live
in
a
part
of
the
city.
Where
is
it
there?
G
How
is
that
going
to
be
a
place
to
live
and,
as
councillor
Robin
said,
we're
short
a
library's
school
capacity?
We
talked
about
green
space.
We
had
a
meeting
last
night
for
the
revitalization
of
a
goes
in
park.
The
the
Eglinton
community
center
there,
north
troncos.
It
was
packed
with
people
all
fighting
over
this
small
little
park.
We
had
they
wanted
soccer
baseball,
dog-park
splashpad
and
you
know,
we've
got
all
the
wall,
people
there
now
and
then
we're
expecting
another
40,000
people
moving
into
that
area.
G
All
fighting
over
this
little
poster
sides
Park
at
Yahoo
Eglinton.
So
that's
really
a
harbinger
of
things
to
come.
It's
you
know
it's
like
The,
Hunger,
Games,
that's!
What's
coming
to
Toronto
because
in
the
new
provincial
edicts,
there's
no
money
for
parks,
no
libraries,
the
community
helped
that
went
towards
paying
for
some
of
these
facilities,
gone
sections,
37,
section,
42,
they're
gone
and
so
people
I
know
will
say.
Like
last
night
a
moment
people
come
the
meeting,
they
weren't
very
concerned
about
the
Midtown
unfocused
plan.
They
weren't
concerned
when
Bill
wanna
wait
came
into
play.
G
So
now
they
come
to
public
meetings
and
say
why
don't
we
have
more
parks
and
they
don't
understand
the
connection
between
planning
decisions
made
by
the
city
and
the
residents
like
as
Andy
Gordon
and
others
have
worked
for
six
to
eight
years
on
a
local
plan
that
was
ripped
up
and
everybody
sits
there
and
says:
oh
those
are
just
the
NIMBYs,
well
the
NIMBYs
to
take
a
look
at
Yonge
and
Eglinton
I.
Think
they
just
approved
me
I!
Guess
that's
autumn,
Josh
Matt
low
side
on
the
corner
there
there's
about
sixty
five
story.
G
Building
it
just
went
up
amongst
the
other,
so
we
are
in
a
realist,
councillor
Robinson.
We
are
in
a
real
crisis
crunch
here
and
the
rest
of
the
people.
Toronto,
better
wake
up
to
what's
happening
to
our
city,
because
essentially
we
have
lost
planning
control,
not
only
of
our
neighborhoods
we've
lost
planning,
control
of
the
necessary
public
investments
in
our
neighborhoods
they're
gonna
disappear.
So
you
can
have
all
the
concrete
condos
you
want,
but
if
there
isn't
a
park
for
your
dog
to
be
in
what
good
is
that?
G
If
you
move
into
one
of
those
areas,
because
you
can
see
what
the
traffic
is
there
now
so
anyways,
maybe
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
as
I
said
our
own
signs
about
saying:
beware:
buyer!
What
you're
gonna
get
if
you
buy
that
beautiful
400
foot,
you
know
closet
in
the
sky
and
Yonge
and
Eglinton.
Beware!
Buyer!
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
C
C
B
Additional
item
43
report
from
city
clerk
regarding
appointment
of
stakeholder
representative
to
the
Larry
gross
and
Forest
Hill
arena
board
introduced
by
councillor
Cole,
all
those
in
favor
pose
that
is
carried
item
44
report
from
the
city
clerk
regarding
appointment
of
public
members
to
the
North
Toronto
Memorial
Arena
board,
introduced
by
councillor
Cole,
all
those
in
favor
items,
45
report
from
the
city
clerk
regarding
the
appointment
of
public
member
Lisa
I'm,
a
moral
community,
gardens
arena
board.
Councillor
Robinson.
B
46
but
29
66,
Bayview,
okay,
okay,
all
those
in
favor
next
one's
mine,
47
memo
submitted
regarding
25
Fisherville
interim
request
for
directions
report.
All
those
in
favor,
oh,
is
that
is
carried.
I
am
Oh.
Item
48
is
withdrawing
item
48,
so
it
didn't
make
it
on
the
agenda,
so
we're
not
really
withdrawing
it.
B
B
B
B
A
Through
the
chair
counselor,
the
any
major
demolitions
regards
to
industrial
commercial
properties,
there
is
a
notification
that
is
sent
prior
to
the
demolition
permit
or
notifying
that
a
demolition
permit
has
been
issued
for
that
particular
property.
It's
not
part
of
an
official
or
a
report
to
Council,
but
it
is
just
a
notification.
Could.
G
A
G
B
B
B
G
I
Thank
you
very
much.
I'll
be
very
brief.
This
is
a
actually
a
leftover
from
last
term.
It's
a
new
part
of
my
ward
that
I
didn't
represent
at
the
time
the
decision
was
for
the
you
know
that
application
at
Bayview
and
Eglinton
on
the
north
east
corner
I
think
very
famous
hardware
store
there
for
many
years.
I
When
that
development
was
approved,
the
section
37
it
was
determined
that
a
park
would
be
built
or
it's
really
a
mouth
to
the
park,
that's
already
there
and
there
was
a
lack
of
access,
so
the
resident
who
lives
beside
this
was
here
last
month
and
and
did
a
deputation
and
was
very
upset
about
all
that.
So
we
gave
them
an
additional
month
to
talk
to
the
developer
and
to
park
staff,
and
he
would
like
us
to
defer
this
again
but
I
feel
like
we
have
to
move
on
the
parties
all
agreed
to
this.
I
This
commitment
to
lease
I
to
open
up
this
park
and
create
more
accessibility.
Having
said
that,
I
do
respect
the
residents
concerns
and
will
commit
to
working
with
them.
As
this
Park
unfolds
over
the
years.
I
think
it's
going
to
take
a
few
years
and
work
to
make
sure
that
his
property
is
acknowledged
and
dealt
with
throughout
the
process,
and
you
know
there's
some
type
of
buffer,
so
I
really
want
to
be
I'm
empathetic
to
that
resident,
but
at
the
same
time
the
all
parties
agreed
to
this.
It's
not
council
approved
it.
I
I
B
I
B
H
I
B
A
I
B
A
B
D
K
G
I
I
B
B
B
B
B
B
J
A
B
B
B
D
This
is
item
19
speed
have
full
results.
He
this
was
a
50-50
in
terms
of
a
result,
so
not
enough
to
proceed.
50%,
responding
and
50%
of
those
saying.
Yes,
it
does
meet
all
the
warrants
for
speed
humps,
but
it's
clear.
The
community
is
not
ready
to
go
there,
but
we
had
a
follow-up
meeting
and
what
what?
What
is
clear
is
that
what
we
really
need
to
do
is
harmonize
the
speed
reduction
it's
40
kilometres
for
a
section
of
the
road
in
between
a
side
street
and
a
side
street.
D
What
they
would
like
to
do
is
where
it
says
in
my
motion:
comer
Avenue,
that
the
speed
limit
on
pine
way
be
harmonized.
Such
the
speed
limit
is
40
kilometers
from
comer
to
whether
Stone
Crescent.
What
that
gives
effect
to
is
that
the
the
speed
level
will
be
consistent
from
comer
Avenue
down
to
the
hydro
belt,
whether
stones,
the
street,
just
above
where
the
Greenbelt
goes
through
and
I.
D
Think
that's
I
think
that's
a
more
what
the
residents
are
looking
for,
then
the
the
extreme
of
speed
humps,
but
in
the
meantime,
so
they
can
begin
to
sort
of
get
a
little
more
creative
than
speed
humps.
Just
so
you
know,
councillor
Bradford
is
making
I'm
doing
a
pilot
with
880
cities
on
Danforth
to
do
a
pilot
on
a
suburban
street.
D
880
cities
is
going
to
come
and
pilot
some
alternative
to
speed,
hump
types
of
traffic
coming
with
this
community,
so
that
will
have
a
suburban
model
as
well
all
funded
by
a
donor
who
lost
a
family
member
in
a
pedestrian
accident,
so
well
report
back
on
that
after
the
summer.
Those
are
my
comments:
Thank
You
mr.
chair.
D
A
B
I
I
would
like
to
speak
on
it,
so
just
so,
my
councillor
colleagues
understand
you're
absolutely
right
in
identifying
earlier
that
we
did
lower
the
speed
limits
at
the
end
of
last
term.
In
Lawrence
Park
Lawrence
Park
is
experiencing
a
lot
of
cut
through
traffic
for
a
number
of
reasons,
including
Metrolinx
being
built,
which
is
a
bit
south.
So
that's
a
bit
of
a
stretch,
but
more
because
of
the
ways
up,
it
seems
to
be
directing
people
through
Lawrence
Park,
particularly
st.
Leonard's,
because
there's
stoplights
at
various
points
in
the
in
the
system.
I
So
we've
now
finished
the
very
controversial
Lawrence
Park
environmental
assessment,
where
you'll
remember
you
know,
was
in
the
news
a
bit
because
of
the
number
of
trees
coming
down.
We
were
able
to
reduce
the
the
tree
impact
quite
substantially
and
get
that
through
council,
but
now
we're
embarking
on
this
EA.
It
has
been
approved
by
the
province
and
we
are
now
starting
that
process.
So
transportation,
engineers
and
staff
have
been
saying
for
years
once
we
start
dot,
L
P,
EA,
the
Lawrence
Park
environmental
assessment
and
do
the
stormwater
work
and
rebuilding
of
the
roads.
I
So,
yes,
we
have
lowered
the
speed
limits
to
30
on
the
local
roads
in
that
area,
but
we
would
now
like
to
look
at
other
measures
and
options
because
of
the
cut
through
traffic,
that's
really
affecting
really
affecting
the
safety
of
children,
trying
to
walk
to
Toronto
French
school
on
Mildenhall
and
the
huge
impact
of
the
Waze
app,
which
you
know
I've
reached
out
to
stop
many
times
on
this,
and
we
haven't
got
any
resolutions,
so
we
just
wanted
to
do
it.
There's
one
Street
looking
for
speed,
humps,
st.
I
Leonard's,
and
that
was
upsetting
some
of
the
other
streets,
it's
very
similar
to
what
councillor
Carroll
was
just
referring
to,
and
so,
instead
of
just
slapping
speed,
humps
on
one
road,
we
want
to
do
it
in
a
comprehensive
way.
Big
picture
and
look
at
you
know
I
think
Shawn
often
says
traffic's
like
water.
It
finds
a
way
to
flow,
so
we
want
to
do
it
in
a
comprehensive
way
and
look
at
it
big
picture
versus
just
doing
treatment
to
one
Street
and
then
impacting
neighboring
streets.
B
D
Wondering
if
you
have
had
this
conversation
with
the
community
and
you'd
be
willing
to
make
it
clear
today
if
we
were
to
adopt
this
I
am
considerably
north
of
this
I'm
having
to
say
to
my
residents
on
a
regular
basis,
there's
no
point
in
doing
a
giant
traffic
master
plan
right
now,
when
Eglinton
crosstown
is
quite
clearly
impacting
us
all
the
way
up
to
north
of
the
401.
If
we
adopt
this,
would
would
the
community
understand
if
they,
if
the,
if
the
real
study
happens
in
the
years
time,
when
we
have
the
new
normal
yeah.
I
So
I
think
that's
a
that's
agreeable.
I
would
just
say
that
we
are
trying
to
really
be
efficient
and
do
it
alongside
the
environmental
assessments.
So
these
these
measures
won't
be
put
in
tomorrow,
but
just
starting
to
map
out
a
plan.
We've
had
multiple
conversations
with
there
with
our
transportation
team,
so
I
think
you're,
absolutely
right.
That
is
having
an
impact,
and
we
will
definitely
weigh
in
on
that.
So
I
think
that's
agreeable.
D
D
D
F
D
B
I
Would
just
say
that,
yes,
if
you
don't
mind,
one
question
to
staff,
I
know
it's
a
different
division
that
does
the
construction
but
you're
well
aware
of
the
the
environmental
assessment
that's
taken
place
over
eight
years
and
the
roads
will
be
reconstructed
and
narrow
to
accommodate
the
trees
that
we
are
trying
to
save,
but
also
it's
safer
when
you
have
narrower
roads
and
pinch
points.
So
does
it
make
sense
to
look
at
that
big
picture
as
you're
doing
an
environmental
assessment
like
does
it?
I
F
The
chair-
yes,
absolutely
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
would
consider
out.
There
would
work
hand-in-hand
with
the
improvements
that
are
going
through
as
part
of
the
EA.
For
example,
the
construction
of
sidewalks
are
prerequisite
for
traffic
calming
to
be
considered,
so
those
two
things
would
work
hand
in
hand.
So
absolutely
okay.
D
So,
just
briefly,
I
ask
my
questions.
So
I
think
it's
something
we
all
have
to
be
mindful
of
we're
getting
transportation,
we're
getting
complaints
and
sometimes
residents.
They
want
to
be
helpful.
So
generally,
they
phoned
out
with
their
problems
but
with
their
problems.
Slash
solution
therefore
do
this
and
do
this
right
now.
D
We
know
the
solution
and
and
I'm
in
the
difficult
situation,
particularly
on
north-south
routes,
now
I'm
having
to
say
that's
a
great
idea,
but
we
really
can't
study
and
give
you
a
definitive
answer
because
we're
not
in
normal
circumstances
we're
we're
in
circumstances
everywhere
because
of
that
largest
infrastructure
project
in
Canada,
and
so
this
is
Lawrence.
Park
being
being
being,
you
know,
south
of
Lawrence,
from
from
from
Lawrence
down
to
Eglinton
they're
right
in
the
infiltration
spot.
D
I
always
think
I
have
a
perfect
way
across
Eglinton
in
that
area
and
then
they've
changed
something
about
it.
Now
we
gotta
find
a
different
way.
Sometimes
red
path
works
then
it
didn't
then
Mount
Pleasant
work,
then
it
didn't
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
so
we
really
are
probably
troubling
these
people
greatly.
You
know
you
get
on
Mount
Pleasant
and
it's
a
mess,
so
you
start
to
divert
around
so
having
heard
from
staff
that
they
can
do
this
in
stages,
I'm
absolutely
willing
to
vote
for
it.
D
But
I
also
note
that
before
me
and
in
the
new
part
of
my
word
billion,
when
they
look
at
the
section
37
lifts,
we
have
been
piling
up
development
by
development.
These
traffic
study
amounts
and
they're
all
still
sitting
there.
Ten
thousand
a
time
all
the
things
there.
We
do
have
to
start
to
calendar
eyes
at
the
minute
the
Crosstown
is
done.
We
spend
those
funds
on
okay.
This
is
the
new
normal.
D
Where
does
traffic
flow
now,
whereas
water
traveling
to
now
so
I,
just
want
to
note
that
that
well,
this
proceeds
in
stages,
the
bulk
of
it
I
think,
should
be
part
of
that
north-south.
Look
that
we
do
of
the
whole
babe
you
Leslie
Don,
Mills
piece
as
soon
as
the
crosstown
is
done.
Thank
You,
mr.
chair,
okay,.
B
I
B
B
C
This
is
the
intersection
of
two
very
heavily
traveled
roads,
Church
Avenue,
which
is
part
of
the
service
road
network
running
from
from
Yonge
Street
to
Doris,
and
then
continues
as
a
collective
Road,
past
Doris
and
Willowdale
Avenue,
which
is
a
minor
collector
which
is
really
starting
to
function
as
a
collector.
Sorry,
sorry,
it's
a
minor
arterial
starting
to
function
as
an
arterial,
so
we
are
moving
a
one
of
the
old-style
pedestrian
crosswalks
from
Maketu
to
this
corner.
As
part
of
the
reconstruction
of
Villa
Dale
Avenue.
C
To
me,
it
makes
no
sense
at
such
a
busy
spot
to
not
put
in
a
proper
you
know,
but
inactivated
pedestrian
signal.
There
is
a
school
on
that
fronts
onto
Church,
Avenue
McKee
school
with
about
700
kids
in
it
there's
a
Mitchell
field.
Community
center
is
right.
Next
to
it,
Lansing
cooperative
nursery
school
is
at
the
corner
of
Willowdale
and
Church.
So
for
safety
reasons
and
I
do
understand,
it
doesn't
meet
the
warrants,
but
for
safety
reasons
we
really
should
be
putting
in
a
proper
safe
crossing
at
such
a
busy
spot.
F
F
H
H
H
H
H
H
F
F
I
F
F
The
existing
pedestrian
cross
crossover
was
studied
and
observed.
It
was
aimed
to
be
operating
safely.
It
is
acknowledged
that
will
Adel
is
a
minor
arterial,
but
it
was
determined
that
it
is
an
appropriate
control
on
this
section
of
road.
However,
it
was
acknowledged
that
it
would
be
more
appropriate
at
the
intersection
with
Church.
H
H
B
H
H
B
H
H
H
I
and
it
is
related
to
the
report-
the
public
report-
that's
presented,
that's
here,
I'm,
not
I,
don't
think
I'm
going
into
the
the
staff.
Public
Health
wrote
a
report
about
walnuts,
so
I'm
asking
questions
about
walnuts.
Now,
if
the
city
solicitor
says
we
can't
go
there,
then
I
understand
that
I
didn't
think.
I
was
breaking
any
rules.
H
H
B
H
So
so
what
we
heard
said
there
there
so
there's
a
potential
for
some
person
who
eats
a
walnut
to
have
an
extreme
reaction
that
could
actually
end
with
someone
could
end
up
in
the
hospital
easily
and
then
isn't
it
also
true
that
the
more
times
you
end
up
and
the
more
you
have,
the
nuts
each
successive
reaction
can
be
worse.
I'm.
A
H
H
B
H
B
D
H
Move
I'll
move
that
the
North
York
Community
Council
recesses
public
session
to
meet
in
closed
session
to
consider
NY
35
NY
7.35
titled
application
remove
a
private
tree
at
45,
Addison
Crescent.
The
reason
being
that
the
report
from
the
city
solicitor
contains
advisor
communications,
they're,
subject
to
solution,
client,
privilege.
A
H
F
D
B
A
Very
much
morning,
Council.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
out
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
councillor
Pasternak,
as
well
as
inspector
meadow
we'd,
been
trying
to
solve
this
problem
for
almost
two
years
now
at
28,
boring,
walk
with
the
neighbor
to
the
south,
and
it's
been
very
difficult.
Coming
up
was
something
that
the
neighbor
to
the
South
would
agree
with,
as
he
had
to
install
decorative
lattice
on
his
side
of
the
fence.
B
A
B
A
B
D
B
L
Good
morning
Council
the
suggestions
that
the
homeowners
have
sent
us
it
would
eliminate
the
climb
ability
features.
The
issue
is,
is
that
the
Plexiglas
and
the
construction
of
the
Plexiglas
onto
the
existing
fence
is
not
within
the
requirements
of
the
pool
enclosure,
part
of
the
fence
bylaw.
So
in
this
particular
case,
the
what
they
would
be
asking
for
an
exemption
at
this
point
would
be
the
type
of
materials
used
in
the
construction
of
a
pool,
enclosure.
B
For
this
kind
of
situation,
the
problem
is
on
the
applicant
sign
and
not
on
a
neighbor
side.
In
this
case,
the
lattice
is
not
the
pool
owners
lattice.
It
is
the
neighbors
lattice
that
abuts
the
property
and
creates
a
I,
don't
know
climbing
allurement
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
As
the
neighbor
accepted
this
solution,
they
will.
They
will
agree
to
the
Plexiglas
installation
on
their
side
to.
L
B
B
B
B
B
B
F
Last
summer
we
built
our
backyard
pool.
We
chose
our
gates
because
we
had
seen
them
being
installed
in
other
pools.
They
were
also
being
built.
Last
summer,
the
gates
for
a
pool
are
very
safe.
They
are
over
five
feet
tall,
where
the
city's
own
requirement
is
only
four
feet.
They
are
non
Klima
ball.
The
differential
between
the
horizontal
bars
on
our
gates
is
four
feet.
F
When
I
came
in
front
of
the
committee
last
month,
we
established
with
the
help
of
city
staff
that
the
gates
chosen
by
us
were
indeed
allowed
halfway
through
the
summer
last
year,
I
had
our
inspection
taken
place
a
couple
of
months
earlier,
our
gates
would
have
been
deemed
perfectly
acceptable.
The
change
in
policy
was
not
communicated
to
pool
builders.
My
pool
builder,
who
had
been
building
pools
in
Toronto
for
25
years,
told
me
these
greats
were
gates
were
great
and
that
he
had
built
plenty
of
pools
with
these
gates.
F
He
was
shocked
when
he
learned
the
city
changed
policy
midseason
without
notice.
Unfortunately,
upon
the
first
inspection
our
gates
and
pool
were
already
built.
We
didn't
try
to
circumvent
any
laws.
The
city's
own
pools
vector
told
me
that
our
gates
are
solid,
safe
and
secure,
but
he
cannot
formally
approve
our
pool
without
the
committee,
allowing
it
I
hope
you
guys
can
help.
F
D
L
Original
chapter
for
for
seven,
as
it
was
amended
a
number
of
years
ago,
never
included
the
allowance
of
a
gate
in
front
of
a
door.
The
municipal
licensing
and
standards
was
attempting
to
modernize
our
by
law
outside
of
actually
rewriting
the
bylaw
in
order
to
help
community
members
and
pool
owners
in
order
to
change
with
the
times
that
was
done
in
August
of
2017,
with
strict
requirements
which
allowed
gates
to
be
put
in
front
of
doors
with.
D
L
The
strict
requirements
at
the
time
were
to
have
at
least
a
1.2
meter
fence
that
was
self
closing
self
latching.
That
was
affixed
to
the
actual
dwelling
itself
in
lieu
of
a
fourth
fence
that
would
have
been
at
least
1.2
meters
away
from
the
wood
the
water's
edge,
at
which
point
in
time
the
design
was
incorporated,
as
you
see,
with
this
particular
property,
we're
a
similar
offense
that
met
the
requirements
under
normal
circumstances
under
the
pool
enclosure
bylaw.
But
the
only
difference
is,
instead
of
being
a
minimum
of
1.2
meters
away
from
a
structure.
L
L
Property
owners
apply
for
a
pool
permit
they're
provided
chapter
4
for
7
for
them
to
read
and
familiarize
themselves
in
detail.
If
they
have
any
questions,
they
can
seek
a
Q&A
with
anyone
or
the
Toronto
Buildings
officials
and/or
our
department,
more
specifically
because
we
deal
with
the
pool
enclosure
itself
right,
at
which
point
in
time.
The
ownership
is
with
the
owners
to
understand
it
and
approach
us
if
they
have
any
questions
right.
D
L
D
L
Speak
for
for
this
particular
property,
but
in
normal
circumstances
the
contractor
will
do
everything
for
them
in
order
to
help
them
out
from
a
customer
service
point
of
view
and
do
everything
for
the
property
owner
the
problem
with
that,
the
ownership
of
any
violation
still
exists
with
the
property
owner,
so
the
contractor
is
long
gone
and
now
the
property
owner
now
has
to
deal
with
the
issues
at
hand
in
this
particular
set
of
circumstances.
The
contractor
may
very
well
have
worked
to
the
benefit
with
the
the
homeowner.
L
A
L
The
issue
at
hand
is,
is
that
the
original
blueprints
and
drawings
that
were
submitted
to
the
City
of
Toronto
through
the
Toronto
Buildings
Department,
which
was
then
supplied
to
us
for
review,
was
permitted.
The
problem
is,
is
that
the
property
owner
and
or
the
contractor
deviated
from
the
original
agreement
of
the
site
plan?
So
what
had
happened
was
is
that
when
they
applied
for
their
permit,
they
were
told
go
ahead.
What
we
see
is
good
to
go
install
what
we
see
when
we
arrived
on
site
in
order
to
do
our
pool
enclosure
inspection.
L
The
officer
then
indicated
that
it
wasn't
in
compliance
based
on
the
time
of
the
inspection,
because
at
that
point
in
time,
the
memo
that
allowed
what
they
had
there
was
not
permitted.
So
therefore,
they
were
in
violation
which
brings
us
up
to
today.
If
the
property
owner
had
built
what
they
originally
agreed
to
do,
then
we
wouldn't
be
here
today.
D
G
L
The
inspection
on
the
property
myself
and
the
gates
that
are
affixed
to
dwelling
do
meet
the
requirements
of
the
fencing
closure
part
of
the
bylaw.
They
are
self
closing.
They
are
self
latching,
they
are
not
themselves
Klima
bowl.
The
problem
is,
is
that
the
issue
remains
that
climb
ability
features
are
available
within
1.2
meters
of
these
gates,
which
in
lies
the
issue
where,
if
you
see
in
one
of
the
photos,
the
the
homeowners
kitchen
table
is
within
that
1.2
meters.
L
The
way
that
they're
built
is
structurally
sound,
the
way
that
they
function
is
within
the
requirements
that
I
expect
and
my
standards.
The
only
issue
is
the
climb
ability
feature
of
the
materials
on
the
inside
the
other
issue
that
we
didn't
mention,
because
it
wasn't
an
issue
as
far
as
I
was
concerned,
I
relayed
that
to
the
property
owner
was
the
windows
that
have
access
to
the
rear
yard
were
not
a
safety
issue.
L
G
L
Disputing
that-
and
it's
just
you
have
to
understand
from
our
point
of
view-
is-
is
I
based
on
the
current
build.
It
doesn't
meet
the
requirements
based
on
chapter
4
for
7.
The
install
was
based
on
a
memo,
not
an
actual
modification
of
the
city,
Toronto
bylaw,
and
it
was
in
in
in
all
factor
the
the
memo
was
omitted
in
May
of
2018
and
the
building
permit
was
received
in
September
of
2018,
so
in
reality
the
the
permit
was
actually
done
many
months
after
the
memo
was
already
rescinded.
I
just.
M
G
L
Would
be
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
decision
to
allow
that
would
be
left
up
to
council
from
our
particular
perspective.
The
issue
is,
is
that
anything
can
be
used
and
that
particular
section
of
the
bylaw
is
not
in
the
by
law.
They
are
required
to
have
a
fourth
fence
and
they
do
not
have
a
fourth
fence.
L
L
The
unfortunate
set
of
circumstances
is
chapter
4,
4
7
is
written
pretty
much
in
a
black-and-white
scenario
and
when
we
start
getting
into
the
what-ifs,
the
municipal
licensing
and
standards
always
takes
the
position
of
safety
and
it's
an
unfortunate
set
of
circumstances
when
property
owners
want
to
try
to
modernize
it
and
we
try
our
best
to
work
with
them.
But
in
this
particular
case
we
have
to
take
the
position
that,
based
on
its
currents
install
it
would
be
an
unsafe
condition.
G
B
G
L
B
D
D
D
Very
popular
these
days,
glass,
fencing
with
a
solid
base
that
glass
fence
ain't
going.
Nowhere
and
I
am
a
big
fan
of
that,
because
it
architectural
II
does
match
some
of
the
renovations
we're
seeing
in
this
neighborhood.
If
you
do
a
Google
search
of
this
neighborhood
and
really
zoom
in
and
do
a
little
3d
switch
ups
you'll
find
it.
D
We
have
a
number
of
grandfathered
pools
that
that
that
aren't
fenced
in
we
have
a
lot
of
safety
issues
and
so
we're
we're
new
applications
come
along
or
applications
to
put
in
just
the
pool
itself
where
the
house
is
already
done.
Wherever
we
can
I
think
we
have
to
uphold
our
bylaw
as
best
we
can
and
deal
with
the
anomalies,
but
to
have
that
fourth
wall
around
the
fence.
Maybe
it
changes
the
size
of
the
pool.
D
G
Yeah-
and
this
is
again
a
very
challenging
situation
for
I'm
sure
for
our
staff
and
for
the
homeowners
family,
who
I
think
has
tried
their
best
given
the
sort
of
complex
situation
they
find
themselves
in
and
the
technical
variations
that
occur
reluctantly
I'm
going
to
have
to
support
the
staff
recommendation
on
the
side
of
safety.
I
would
come
very
close
to
giving
support
to
the
applicant
I
can
see
his
real
dilemma
here.
Really
the
safety
and
the
long
run
I'm
gonna
have
to
support
the
staff
recommendation.
B
They
refuse
to
report.
Ok,
any
other
speakers.
Ok,
the
review
staff
recommendation
to
refuse
item
number
one
on
item
38
531
cram
book
is
before
us
all.
Those
in
favor
of
the
refusal
reports,
hosed
that
is
carried
I,
have
two
very
quick
I
guess.
There's
one
reopening
item,
21
counselor
Fillion
is
asked
to
reopen
and
amend
I.
Think
it
earlier
motion
that
we
passed.
Yes.
C
B
B
Great
all
those
in
favor
posed
and
his
carried
an
item
held
down.
It
was
item
37
defense
exemption,
empowering
walk.
We
have
changed
the
motion
to
require.
We
grant
we're
granting
the
fence
exemption
with
the
condition
that
they
erect
a
Plexiglas
barrier
covering
the
lattice
on
the
adjoining
property
and
apparently
the
two
homeowners
have
agreed
to
the
solution.
Staff
have
said
that
that
makes
it
safe
all
those
in
favor
posed
that
is
carried.
B
K
B
K
K
A
You
for
hearing
me,
my
name
is
Mike,
be
learn:
I'm
the
owner
of
1:53,
strap
Allen,
just
to
make
it
clear.
This
is
not
a
fence
exemption
for
a
pool,
enclosure,
I
have
a
pool,
and
all
that
has
been
taken.
Care
of
and
I
do
have
an
existing
fence
around
the
perimeter
of
my
property
along
the
east
side.
Adjacent
to
151,
straw
and
I
have
about
80
odd
feet,
running
from
the
back
of
my
property
up
to
the
front
corner
of
my
house,
which
has
a
fence
in
most
cases
below
the
six
foot
six
requirement.
A
I
have
an
issue
in
my
backyard
with
the
neighbor's
tree.
It's
a
large
evergreen
that
had
about
half
of
its
branches
over
onto
my
side
of
the
property
in
order
to
facilitate
cutting
it
back.
It
left
I
mean
it's
a
it's
an
ugly
tree.
That's
just
leaking
SAP.
All
over,
so
I
had
cut
back
the
in
chess
that
were
on
my
property
and
to
cover
up
the
the
look
of
that
tree.
I,
put
up
a
16-foot
fence,
one
foot
in
on
my
property
as
a
screen.
A
B
K
B
K
We
have
the
same
fence
same
height
and
the
part
that
you
are
seeing
above
it
that
mr.
Birla
built
you
can
see
is
significantly
higher
than
you
know
is
permitted
by
bylaw
and
when
the
Bible
or
inspector
came
out,
he
said.
Yes,
it
is
a
fence,
it
does
exceed
the
existing
bylaw
and
for
us
on
a
personal
level,
it
does
shadow
property.
K
K
You
know
directly
towards
the
other
fence
and
what
is
really
doing
is
creating
a
barrier
between
the
two
properties
and
it's
notable
that
that
curtain
and
the
balcony,
as
far
as
I
understand
from
the
building
office
was
not
an
improved
structure
and
part
of
the
original
plans
for
his
house
and
has
also
been
cited.
So
you
know
bottom
line
is
that
this.
K
So
much
above
property
is
affecting
us
sitting
in
the
backyard
we're
now
in
shadow
in
the
afternoons,
and
they
knew
when
they
built
this,
that
it
was
not
in
keeping
with
bylaw,
because
I
went
and
I
spoke
to
the
Builder
who
was
building
the
fence
and
I
said
you
know
you
realize
that
this
is
in
excess
of
the
bylaw
height,
and
he
said
yes,
I
know,
so
this
wasn't
done
by
mistake.
This
was
done
with
complete
knowledge
that
it
was
not
in
keeping.
G
D
M
M
M
D
B
M
Through
the
chair
it's
and
that
fence
line
is
on
the
east
property
line,
so
I'm
Sun
rising
in
East
I,
can
only
assume
that
there
would
be
a
shadow
cast
from
you
as
I
say
before.
I
haven't
been
on
site,
but
I.
Imagine
that
a
good
10
feet
fence
is
gonna
cause
somewhat
of
a
shadow
there,
but
only
into
the
only
into
the
applicants.
Property
I
would
have
thought
for
the
majority
that
I'm
in
till
the
late
evening
when
to
the
west.
G
M
The
maximum
allowable
under
the
fence,
bylaw
chapter
4,
4
7,
would
be
2
meters
and
the
the.
If
we
want
to
call
it
a
privacy
screen,
it
is
in
fact
a
fence,
but
the
screen
portion
of
it
is
actually
measured
at
3
meters,
which
is
close
on
10
feet.
The
pool
equipment
storage
unit,
which
is
the
other
part
of
the
exemption
request,
is
2.4
meters.
G
M
G
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
again,
the
it
is
a
difficult
neighbor
confrontation
over
fences,
as
we
see
here
quite
regularly,
I
just
think
overall,
since
it
is
higher
than
permitted,
and
it
is
quite
a
sizable
fence
that
does
create
shadowing
on
the
next-door
neighbor
I'm,
going
to
basically
support
refusing
this
application
as
difficult.
That
is,
for
the
neighbor
who's,
trying
to
also
protect
his
property.
But
it
is
above
the
required
by
law,
Heights
and
so
I'm
going
to
support,
refusing
the
application
for
an
exemption.
G
B
I
B
B
B
B
N
You
so
much
Thank,
You
counsel,
I,
greatly
appreciate
it.
I
reside
at
342,
Lawrence
Avenue
s
next
door
to
the
applicants
just
to
go
over
some
of
the
items
for
the
facts
for
this
council
already.
This
is
the
view
from
grey
road
showing
what
the
material
is
made
out
of
and
so
forth.
That's
been
shared,
including
a
child's
beach,
ball,
protruding,
metal
and
so
forth.
It's
still
up
to
this
day
blocking
sunlight
to
my
lawn,
which
is
currently
dying
next
over
as
well.
H
N
Currently,
if
the
application
is
approved
even
to
the
new
level
or
stays
as
is,
you
can
currently
see
that
there
is
only
one
area
for
light
to
come
into
my
property
to
my
lawn,
so
the
exemption
would
be
cutting
off
and
building
basically
a
citadel
around
my
property.
Without
my
expressed
intent
or
ass.
B
N
To
that
as
well,
is
you
know
if
this
is
a
concern
about
privacy
just
to
show
from
my
own
window
just
taking
a
quick
picture?
This
is
not
from
any
security
cameras
or
any
such
just.
Everyone
in
our
neighborhood
can
see
each
other's
neighbors
yards
from
their
second-story
window.
Everyone,
it's
not
a
question:
how
high
do
I
have
to
build
a
fence
to
get
privacy
you're
not
going
to
get
it?
You
know
we
live
in
a
city.
This
is
how
it
works
related
to
that
this
is
more
surprising.
N
I
think
goes
into
being
a
good
faith
actor.
This
is
the
side
of
the
property
you
will
notice
originally
in
the
photo
from
city
staff
and
2018,
there's
a
mirror
for
backing
up
along
the
driveway,
since
this
application
has
been
put
forward
by
the
applicant
they've,
extended
after
being
notified
of
what's
suitable
and
unsuitable
materials
and
mirror
higher
than
what's
allowed
under
the
bylaw,
knowing
it's
in
the
same
area
under
their
application.
So
it's
made
out
of
unsuitable
material
and,
if
you're
going
to
assume
that
they
were
a
good
faith,
actor
they've
already
been
explained.
B
O
Chair
and
members
of
North
York
Community
Council,
my
name
is
Patricia
I'm,
daughter
of
Gus
and
Helen
Lam,
propolis
owners
of
344
Lawrence
Avenue
West,
who
have
lived
there
for
over
55
years.
My
parents,
who
are
in
their
80s
and
90s,
regret
that
they
could
not
be
here
today.
They
are
requesting
a
fence
exemption
in
order
to
keep
in
place
a
privacy
screen
they
erected
two
years
ago
on
their
property
made
with
materials
available
to
them
at
the
time
which
is
located
at
the
rear
yard
of
their
own
property.
O
This
screen
exists
solely
to
protect
their
privacy
on
their
own
private
property,
from
one
specific
surveillance
camera
in
particular,
situated
closest
to
their
home,
which
belongs
to
the
next-door
owners
of
342,
Lawrence
Avenue,
West,
Miss,
Cindy
cipher
and
mr.
Jack
Paar's,
who
just
spoke.
The
specific
camera
in
question
is
one
of
several
of
their
backyard
cameras,
which
capture
images
of
our
property
from
varying
distances.
There
is
also
a
camera
on
their
front
porch
angled
toward
our
home.
O
My
parents
were
always
willing,
from
the
very
beginning,
to
voluntarily
remove
the
privacy
screen
altogether
and
withdraw
the
requests
for
the
fence
exemption.
Provided
mr.
parez
and
Miss
cipher
would
first
just
move
eastward
at
least
four
feet,
just
this
one
camera
and
make
sure
it's
not
angled
toward
our
property,
which
they
have
so
far
refused
to
do.
It
is
not
normal
to
be
filmed
by
others
without
permission
on
your
own
property
24/7.
O
O
It
does
not
block
any
sunlight
or
daylight
from
entering
their
home
as
it's
not
located
directly
in
front
of
any
of
their
windows.
Any
suggestion
that
we
can
see
in
two
bedrooms
is
false.
Their
bedrooms
are
on
the
second
floor.
The
house
is
identical
to
ours.
Even
before
the
privacy
screen,
we
had
no
desire
or
ability
to
look
up
into
their
bedrooms
and
that's
still
the
case,
we're
not
the
ones
with
cameras.
No
one
has
complained
about
it.
Until
now,
we
are
happy
to
enjoy
great
relationships
with
all
of
our
other
neighbors.
O
Where
you
see
the
post,
where
you
see
the
post-it
note,
that's
the
camera
here
that
has
necessitated
the
erection
of
the
privacy
screen
down
here
is
the
top
of
the
at
the
bottom.
Is
the
fence,
the
top
of
the
fence
that
divides
our
backyards
down
here?
The
second
photograph
will
demonstrate
all
their
other
cameras.
O
O
B
O
B
O
G
O
To
the
height
that
we're
requesting-
and
the
only
purpose
of
that
is
just
to
obstruct
the
view
of
the
camera,
it's
not
that
everybody
can
look
into
everybody's
driveway.
Just
I
mean
we,
my
parents
are
elderly.
They
can't
really
mount
the
patio
properly,
so
they
sit
in
the
driveway
proper.
There's
a
direct
view
from
that
one
camera.
B
G
O
B
G
M
Could
have
been
staff
there's
no
by
law
that
regulates
that
at
all
and
we
would
revert
the
fence
by
law
in
this
instance
and
consider
it
a
offence.
The
intention
of
the
applicant
is
to
install
that
to
shield
it
from
view,
but
there's
no
provision
in
the
bylaw
that
provides
us
anything
to
deal
with
that.
G
Another
difficult
neighbor
to
neighbor
situation,
given
the
the
applicant,
is
agreed
to
replace
that
temporary
screen.
That's
up
there
with
something
that
complies
with
the
proper
material
etc
and
given
their
concern
about
something
they
can't
do
anything
about.
The
the
cameras
make
them
very
uneasy
and
I
think
hinders
their
enjoyment
of
their
property
and
so
I'm
gonna
support
granting
the
application
for
the
fence
to
remain.
D
D
It's
not
really
clear
to
me
in
the
the
alternate
recommendations
it
says,
require
the
installation
be
maintained,
a
good
repair
not
be
changed
to
appropriate
materials.
I
I
really
can't
really
can't
vote
for
this
without
knowing
for
sure
that
they're
gonna
tear
it
down
and
put
up
one
that's
proper,
but
even
then
I
would
have
trouble
adopting
that
height
because
you
will
find
it
happening
in
dots
throughout
the
neighborhood
in
no
time
at
all
and
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
want
that,
and
so
just
because
I
want
them
on
the
table.