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North York Community Council, meeting 26, November 14, 2017 - Part 1 of 2
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0:02:50 - Call to order
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I
have
a
motion
to
extend
the
notice
area
it's
on
the
screen.
It
actually
has
boundaries
cited
and
those
are
Sherwood
Avenue,
Briar,
Hill,
Yonge
Street
to
the
west
angling
Tain's,
the
South
Mount
Hope,
Catholic
cemetery
to
the
east,
because
it's
a
funny
boundary
there
so
that
the
applicant
pay
the
cost.
Thank.
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No
I
don't
write
this
stuff.
All
in
favor
opposed
carry.
Not
one
person
raised.
Oh
Shelly
raise
your
hand,
yes,
okay
item
that
will
be
known
as
for
at
twenty
six
point:
four:
eight
all
waken
compulsory,
stop
control
at
Heathrow
and
Datchet
and
petition
to
be
entered
on
that
one
permission
to
distribute
all
in
favor
opposed
carry
memo
from
councillor
Fillion.
Regarding
reopening
of
item
24
point
twenty
seven
request
for
offense
exemption.
A
A
Against
okay,
so
the
item
is
reopened
and
can
be
distributed.
New
item,
fifty
communication
from
Jarrod
Goldberg,
requesting
that
the
winter
warm-up
lounge
at
the
shops
of
Don
Mills
be
declared
an
event
of
municipal
significance
to
be
distributed.
Yes,
all
in
favor
opposed
carry
Josh
Cole.
Regarding
the
request
to
reduce
speed
limit
on
all
local
roads.
Inward
15
introduced
introduction,
please
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
councillor.
Fillion
additional
item
will
be
known
as
NY
twenty
six
point:
five
to
extending
the
existing
40
K
speed
limit
on
Avondale
Avenue
to
Yonge
Street
for
introduction.
A
All
in
favor
opposed
carried
memo
from
councillor
Fillion
regarding
recommendations
for
parking
prohibitions
on
Betty
drive
for
distribution.
All
in
favor
opposed
carried
additional
item
from
councillor
men
and
wong.
Regarding
request
to
place
a
no
entry
sign
at
Tara,
View
Drive
and
the
intersection
of
Victoria
Park
Avenue
and
farm
Greenway
introduction
all
in
favor
opposed
carried.
A
Additional
item:
twenty
six
point:
five:
five
memo
from
the
chair
regarding
installation
of
all
a
compulsory
stop
control
at
Garrett,
Boulevard
and
Regent
Road
for
a
distribution
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
and
finally
councillor
Pasternak
item
56
regarding
turn
prohibitions,
codicil,
Avenue
at
Wilson,
Heights,
Boulevard,
Wilmington,
Avenue
and
Bathurst
Street.
All
in
favor
opposed
carry
anyone
else.
Turn
on
your
mic.
Please
there's.
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You
good
morning,
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Joe
Hoffman
I'm,
a
solicitor
at
Goodman's,
LLP
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
Len
gold
developments.
Ltd
with
me
today
are
representatives
of
a
client
and
Billy
Tong,
our
clients,
land-use
planning
consultant.
The
staff
report
before
you
today
recommends
approval
of
our
clients
rezoning
application.
We
support
city
staffs
recommendations
in
the
report,
including
the
proposed
conditions
of
approval.
The
subject
lands
are
located
on
the
north
side
of
Finch
Avenue,
just
east
of
Bathurst
Street.
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The
existing
four-story
47
unit,
rental
apartment
building
on
the
site
is
being
retained,
as
I
just
mentioned.
The
conditions
of
approval
recommended
by
staff
secure
a
number
of
improvements
in
order
that
renovations
to
the
existing
rental
apartment
built
in
and
also
secured,
the
owners
commitment
to
maintaining
the
rental
units
for
at
least
20
years.
E
This
replication
represents
a
modest,
an
appropriate
intensification
on
a
site
on
an
arterial
road
in
a
manner
that
is
sympathetic
to
and
compatible
with
surrounding
single-family
homes.
Planning
staffs
report
confirms
that
the
application
is
in
conformity
with
the
growth
plan
consistent
with
the
PPS
and
in
conformity
with
the
city's
official
plan,
including
the
policies
and
development
criteria
for
mixed
use,
areas
and
the
policy
of
the
plan
relating
to
healthy
neighborhoods,
built
form
and
other
housing
policies.
E
We
understand,
however,
that
the
councillor
has
expressed
some
concerns
about
the
look
of
the
townhouses
first,
we
note
that
the
townhouse
is
designed
is
in
keeping
with
the
city's
recently
released.
Townhouse
guidelines.
I
showed
you
the
front
elevation
of
the
clients
proposal
similarity.
There
is
the
cover
page.
E
Second
and
more
importantly,
it's
important
to
note
that
what
is
before
Council
today
is
a
rezoning
application,
a
site
plan.
Application
has
not
yet
been
made
and
there
will
be
opportunities
for
the
city
to
review
the
specific
diet,
design
of
the
townhouses
as
part
of
that
future
application.
Any
design
changes
will
not
affect
the
amendments
to
the
zoning
bylaw
and
will
not
affect
the
conditions
of
approval
and
therefore
it's
our
submission
that
the
application
is
appropriate,
as
recommended
by
staff,
and
should
go
forward
to
City
Council
for
recommendation.
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Back
to
48
installation
of
all
a
compulsory
stop
control
at
Heathrow,
and
it
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
councillor
mannan.
One
request
up
to
place
a
no
entry
sign
at
terror
of
you
drive
in
the
intersection
of
Victoria
Park
Avenue.
Yes,
yes,
file
under
F;
okay,
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
councillor,
O'meara
installation
of
an
all
the
way
compulsory,
stop
control
at
Garrett
and
reagent
road.
We're
doing
this
because
there
was
a
serious
accident
there
on
Sunday,
all
in
favor
opposed
carrot,
carried
councillor,
Pasternak
turn
prohibitions
at
Cod's
eleven,
you
at
Wilson,
Heights,
Boulevard,.
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M
Good
morning
my
name
is
Kelly.
Nakamura
I've
submitted
my
comments.
I
hope
you
have
a
copy.
A
brief
background.
My
parents
purchased
a
house
on
Whitmore
Drive
decades
ago
directly
behind
the
proposed
townhouse
development.
I
would
like
to
raise
concerns
that
came
to
light.
After
the
last
community
meeting,
we
received
a
letter
dated
June
26
from
the
developers
lawyer
Owens
right.
We
discovered
much
to
our
shock
that
the
developer
is
claiming
ownership,
0.45
meters
or
17.7
inches
of
land
adjacent
to
the
concrete
retaining
wall
at
the
end
of
our
back
yard.
M
We
also
discovered
that
the
City
of
Toronto
owns
a
1
foot
reserve
strip
beside
the
developers
0.45
metres
strip
land
on
which
we
planted
trees
decades
ago
and
built
fences.
Please
note
that
the
commercial
property
owners
on
Victoria
Park
have
never
indicated
membership
ownership
of
our
backyard
space
or
have
objected
to
how
we
have
used
it
over
the
years.
I
have
two
overall
questions
which
will
address
our
concerns.
M
Firstly,
based
on
an
initial
discussion
with
solo
text,
the
developer
I
understand
they
can
prepare
a
neighbour's
letter
agreement
with
a
number
of
specific
guarantees
that
the
developer
will
follow.
Our
question
is:
can
the
city
help
us
to
ensure
that
a
neighbour's
agreement
letter
with
the
developer
is
binding
and
enforced
to
protect
our
property,
avoid
damage
and
avoid
costs
during
construction?
Here
are
examples
of
possible
conditions
that
reflect
our
concerns.
All
costs
involving
changes
to
our
backyards
and
property
during
the
townhouse
construction
will
not
be
paid
by
the
Wigmore
residents.
M
Removing
the
concrete
retaining
wall
will
not
damage
our
trees,
property
or
the
board
fences
between
the
neighbors.
This
is
a
particular
concern,
as
the
concrete
wall
is
leaning
on
our
wooden
fences,
damage
to
our
trees
event,
plants
and
root
systems
must
be
avoided.
An
arborist
recommendations
may
include
not
removing
soil,
to
avoid
damaging
tree
roots,
constructing
a
barrier
to
protect
trees
and
plants
and
watering
trees
to
give
them
extra
resilience.
M
If
the
board
fences
between
neighbors
are
cut
back,
we
should
receive
a
precise
written
specification
of
the
amount
of
fencing
involved
which
we
have
not
received.
How
far
into
the
backyards
the
construction
will
go
and
the
location
and
specifications
of
the
developers
final
fence
tall,
secure,
fencing
is
needed
for
privacy
flooding,
which
is
a
very
serious
problem
for
the
Wigmore
backyards,
will
not
be
worsened
by
the
project.
Please
note:
one
possibility
to
discuss
with
Sola
techs
is
the
Wigmore
neighbor's
retaining
access
to
the
point?
M
Four
five
meters
and
the
developers
final
fence
being
placed
where
the
concrete
wall
is
now
as
opposed
to
the
property
line.
Further
into
our
backyards,
however,
we
need
to
understand
the
implications
of
future
costs
such
as
tree
removal
once
the
developers
final
fence
and
the
landscaping
are
added
and
if
I
represent.
My
second
question
visit
is
related
to
this
neighbors
agreement.
What
is
the
final
grade
or
height
of
the
developers
land
immediately
on
the
other
side
of
the
concrete
wall?
Is
it
the
height
of
the
developers
property
line
at
the
top
of
our
backyard
slopes?
M
We
need
this.
In
writing.
We
need
to
understand
the
impact
that
lowering
the
grade
and
removing
the
concrete
retaining
wall
will
have
on
the
health
and
stability
of
our
trees,
especially
the
older
tall
ones.
This
will
affect
the
guarantees
request
in
the
neighbors
agreement
letter.
We
also
want
assurances
that
the
developer
will
not
cut
into
our
backyards
beyond
the
point
four
or
five
metres,
if
that
is
the
final
location
of
the
developers
fence
and
that
they
will
not
change
the
grade
of
the
slopes
of
our
backyards.
Thank.
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However,
we
have
concerns
regarding
the
trees
which
we
have
expressed
to
John
Lyon
and
also
there
is
concern
regarding
the
impact
of
the
construction
of
the
proposed
underground
garage
under
the
development
at
Victoria
Park
facing
Victoria
Park.
We
feel
that
this
may
impact
the
foundations
of
our
homes,
we're
the
homeowners
on
the
back,
seven
or
eight
homes,
I
believe
on
23
Whitmore
Drive.
So
we
do
have
concerns
regarding
this
development.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
J
J
It's
a
foreign
half
story
stack
townhouse
development
with
147
residential
units
and,
as
you
can
see
on
the
overhead
just
for
context,
the
site
is
shown
by
the
red
star
and
it's
located
on
the
west
side
of
Victoria
Park
Avenue
about
950
meters,
north
of
Eglinton,
Avenue
East
and
the
future
LRT.
That's
going
to
run
along
that.
J
So
next
we've
got
an
aerial
photo
of
the
site.
The
site
is
outlined
in
red
and
just
to
give
a
bit
of
context
for
it
to
the
north
is
Draycott.
Drive
to
the
east
is
Victoria
Park
Victoria
Park
contains
various
uses
and
building
types,
including
three
to
eleven
storey.
Residential
apartments,
as
well
as
other
commercial
uses
to
the
south
is
another
commercial
Plaza
to
the
west.
Are
single
detached
homes
which
front
on
to
Wigmore?
So,
as
you
can
see
in
the
air
photo,
the
site
contains
a
commercial
plaza
in
front
of
that.
J
So
next
we've
got
a
color
sight
plan.
As
you
can
see,
the
proposals
arranged
in
four
blocks:
there's
a
central
driveway
along
Vic
Park
that
provides
access
to
a
crate
loading
as
well
as
the
underground
parking
garage
of
note.
There
is
no
heart,
no
vehicular
access
proposed
from
Draycott,
so
you
can
see
along
the
rear
of
the
site
that
will
generate,
which
is
the
top
of
the
imager
there's.
There's
a
7
point.
J
8
meter
regard
set
back
to
the
property's
long
Wigmore
and
the
owner
is
proposing
a
variety
of
landscape
elements
along
the
rear
of
the
property
to
create
a
strong
buffer.
As
you
can
see
inside
this
site,
there's
an
internal
courtyard
which
provides
access
to
the
residential
units
and
it'll
be
heavily
landscaped.
J
So
next
I'm
going
to
give
some
comparison
photos
the
first
one
here
is
a
view
from
Victoria
Park.
So
if
you
look
at
the
top
image,
this
is
the
existing
situation.
With
the
commercial
plaza,
it's
got
surface
parking
in
the
front
and
then,
if
you
look
at
the
bottom
image,
that's
a
rendering
which
shows
the
proposed
Actos
development
and,
as
you
can
see,
it
will
frame
the
street
along
Victoria
Park,
as
well
as
the
side
street
at
Draycott,
and
there
will
be
new
street
trees
implemented.
There.
J
And
here
we
have
another
comparison
photo,
so
this
shows
the
view
from
Draycott
Drive.
This
is
looking
south
into
the
site.
The
top
image
shows
the
existing
condition
of
the
commercial
plaza.
You
can
see
to
the
right
of
it.
That's
the
rear
driveway,
which
was
previously
used
for
loading
and
garbage
store,
just
so
excited
with
the
commercial
Plaza
and
also
on
the
right.
You
can
see
the
concrete
retaining
wall
which
straddles
the
property
of
the
residential
homes,
long
Wigmore.
J
J
So
in
conclusion,
I
just
want
to
say
we
like
to
thank
City
Planning
and
technical
staff
for
working
with
us
on
the
massing
and
functional
design
of
the
project,
we're
happy
to
have
a
positive
planning
staff
report
in
support
of
it.
In
addition,
the
owner
has
also
worked
with
the
counselor's
office
to
achieve
a
section,
37
contribution
that
will
go
towards
improvements
at
Wigmore
Park.
So
we're
happy
about
that
and
in
conclusion,
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
a
relation
to
this
rezoning
application.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
Yes,
so
in
the
materials
there
was
a
note
from
one
of
the
deputies
that
we
received,
dated
November,
November
13th,
that's
yesterday,
so
and
and
a
number
of
issues
were
raised.
So
so
so
can
you
tell
me
the
issues
are
their
property
line
issues
there's
an
offense
and
you
believe
your
property
lines
at
a
different
spot.
Well,.
J
J
G
G
G
J
G
Maybe
I'm
gonna
ask
staff
what
they
think
the
impact
is
with
that.
Maybe
you
can
tell
me:
have
you
got
studies
to
a
step,
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
with
regard
to
the
because,
with
regard
to
the
flow
of
water,
because
the
residents
on
Wigmore
there's
been
a
very
large
problem
for
all
the
residents
on
Wigmore,
not
just
on
the
adjacent
to
your
property,
but
all
the
way
down
the
street
to
Alveston,
they
have
water
ponding
in
their
backyards.
G
J
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O
J
Yes,
there
are
some
trees
that
are
in
the
rear
of
these
properties,
and
I've
got
Steve
here
from
solo
tax
corporation,
who
Corporation
has
actually
reached
out
to
the
neighbors,
and
he
sent
a
letter
and
he'll,
be
the
prime
contact
moving
forward
and
he's
he's
a
offer
to
meet
with
them
to
go
on-site
and
go
in
their
backyards,
with
an
arborist
report
with
an
arborist
and
to
review
the
trees
and
to
ensure
that
impacts
will
be
mitigated
when
they
remove
the
retaining
wall.
Okay,.
B
I
I
I
My
name
is
Christina
Rother
I'm,
a
resident
of
23
Wigmore
Drive.
My
sister
was
just
the
previous
speaker,
Karen
Rother
Jeffrey,
we're
concerned,
and
we've
joined
forces
with
Kelly
Nakamura
and
the
links
at
on
Wigmore,
and
we
were
all
given
affidavits
from
Vick
towns
lawyer
Owens,
and
write
saying
that
they
will
claim
the
backyard
portion
of
our
land,
which
is
part
of
a
help.
We
all
got
surveyed
maps
with
yellow
lines
and
we
feel
this
is
an
invasion
of
our
privacy,
and
this
is
our
property,
and
we
would
like
to
address
certain
issues.
I
I've
seen
a
lawyer
on
this
matter.
My
lawyer
is
Thomas
Russell
and
he
said
it's
a
municipal
case,
so
we
want
to
be
very
clear
as
to
what
portion
of
the
land
is
municipal.
What
it
my
lawyer
said.
It
was
like
on
17
18
inch
strip
of
land,
that
was
municipal
property
on
which
trees
that
were
situated
on
the
strip
of
land
may
have
to
be
removed.
But
what
portion
is
Vic
town's
property
is
another
issue
all
together.
I
So
my
questions
are:
when
will
Vic
towns
start
and
complete
construction
of
the
townhomes
on
Victoria
Park
Avenue?
How
many
years
of
construction
can
we
expect
to
just
Vic
towns
intend
to
remove
the
hills
from
our
backyards
to
level
the
land
to
make
room
for
underground
parking?
Three?
Well,
the
City
of
Toronto
or
Vic
towns
pay
for
the
removal
of
the
Elms
on
the
property
line
of
Wigmore
for
to
find
the
property
line
between
Wigmore
Drive
residents
and
Vic
towns.
B
G
So
so
then
there's
the
so
then
there's
the
the
applicants
land,
then
there's
the
reserve
and
then
there's
the
homeowners
on
Widmore.
So
is
it
fair
to
say
that
the
residents
have
claimed
for
a
number
of
years
up
to
half
the
metre
of
property
on
this
half
a
meter
of
property
as
their
own
that
the
development
the
applicant
is
wants
to
take
back.
D
G
G
Yes,
that
is
correct.
Thank
you.
Can
we
go
back
so
I?
Can
we
go
to
the
the
grading
issue
for
a
minute?
So
maybe
maybe
someone
mr.
nanos,
someone
could
talk
to
me
about
what
or
talk
to
the
committee
about
what
the
plan
is
for
the
retaining
wall
and
and
any
potential
storm
water
that
might
flow
down
into
the
homes
on
Wigmore.
That's
on
a
lower.
It's
lower
and
there's
been
a
habitual
ponding.
That's
been
a
problem
for
residents.
D
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
my
understanding
is
that
they
will,
as
the
applicant
noted
earlier,
regrading,
to
match
the
grades
with
with
the
adjacent
properties
and
install
a
1.8,
liter
wooden
fence,
and
it's
proposed
that
all
grading
and
drainage
that
originates
from
the
subject.
Property
would
be
contained
on
the
subject
property,
which
is
city
city
standards.
The
detailed
grading
design
is
currently
under
review
by
our
engineering
department
and
will
continue
to
be
under
review
through
the
site
plan
process.
So
so.
G
D
G
G
D
G
D
D
Bhalla
because
they're
under
30
centimeters,
but
may
still
be
affected
as
a
result
of
the
removal
of
the
current
retaining
wall
and
the
grading
changes
and
the
applicant
is
working
with
urban
forestry
staff,
together
with
the
landowners
to
try
to
rectify
that
issue
and
try
to
minimize
any
disturbance
to
the
trees.
So.
D
P
So
any
trees
that
measure
her
30
centimeters
are
greater
1.4
meters
above
the
ground
should
be
dealt
through
it
with
through
a
permit
application
which
can
be
done
during
the
site
plan
process.
Any
trees
that
are
located
or
that
are
measuring
under
30
centimeters
would
not
be
regulated,
and
that
would
definitely
be
a
civil
matter
between
applicant
and
and
the
resident.
G
G
G
P
P
The
planner
from
urban
forestry
who
is
working
on
this
particular
file
is,
is
not
here
today,
and
this
was
the
first
knowledge
that
I
had
that.
We
would
be
speaking
on
this
item,
so
I
can
confirm,
if
which
date
we've
been
out
to
the
site
and
if
we've
inventoried
the
trees
there
or
if
an
inventory
was
provided.
I
just
do
not
have
that
information
in
front
of
me
right
now.
Okay,.
H
Go
ahead,
they're,
just
questions
of
a
policy
nature
I
was
kind
of
surprised
when
I
looked
at
this,
that
that
we
weren't
looking
to
require
some
sort
of
use
of
the
land
that
that
had
more
of
a
mix
that
tried
to
retain
some
retail
grade.
It
was
that
ever
discussed
and
is
there
their
reason
why
we're
taking
a
holiday
from
that
here.
H
H
D
Through
the
provincial
policies
and
the
Metrolinx
policies,
we
ordinarily
look
at
intensifying
within
500
to
700
metres
of
sites.
This
falls
outside
its
950,
but
but
it's
still
within
a
reasonable
distance
of
the
LRT
future
LRT
line,
but
I
should
also
mention
that,
although
it's
a
stacked
on
house
form,
it's
an
intensive
compact
type
form
of
development,
because
all
the
parking
for
the
most
part
is
underground.
So
in
this
particular
stock
town
OHS
form
it's
two
times
over
2
times
density.
D
H
I
was
looking
for
and
I
know,
I
know
that
you
know
we
don't
have
full
on
inclusionary
zoning
yet,
but
this
is
an
area
that
really
is,
you
know
known
for
having
affordable
housing,
affordable
rental
in
in
the
private
sector,
not
even
socially
zone,
but
within
the
private
sector,
it's
reasonable
rents
from
the
low-rises
across
the
street,
etc,
etc.
Was
there
any
discussion
about
requiring
affordable
units
instead
of
cash
in
lieu.
H
D
That's
correct:
the
only
policies
in
our
official
plan
that
require
a
affordable
housing
to
be
prioritized
for
section
37
is
the
large
lot
policy
which
requires
over
parcels
over
four
hectares
to
be
sorry,
correct,
five
Hector's
to
require
affordable
housing
20%
for
housing.
Now,
that's
not
to
say
that
we
don't
have
discussions
with
applicants
to
encourage
them.
In
this
particular
case,
there
is
a
mixture
of
one
bedroom
and
two
bedrooms
for
the
most
part
in
terms
of
the
the
form
of
unit
types,
but
they
haven't
committed
to
providing
any
affordable
housing.
A
H
Yes,
madam
Speaker
I
just
wanted
to
say
briefly:
this
is
you
know.
Clearly
there
are
a
lot
of
things
to
be
worked
out
individually.
There
are
legal
matters
between
owners
and
the
and
the
the
applicant
and
the
local
councillor
has
done
a
good
job
of
making
it
clear
that
you
know
they
have
to
be
in
their
own
driver's
seat.
H
There
there's
a
fair
amount
of
negotiating,
which
means
it's
a
while
before
there'll
be
a
building
permit,
and
this
thing
is
proceeding,
but
that's
why
that's
why
I'm
concerned
about
the
fact
that
really
this
is
an
across
town,
intensification
and
it's
transit,
intensification
and
I
know
that
it's
a
small
sight
but
I
think
all
along
the
Crosstown.
We're
gonna
have
to
begin
to
turn
our
minds
to
policy
that
looks
at
how
we're
going
to
in
that
intensification,
maintain
some
affordability.
H
This
is
an
area
where,
because
of
the
sorry
state
of
some
of
the
strip
malls,
the
apartments
around
them
are
one
of
the
last
bastions
of
the
900
a
month
apartment.
There
are
a
number
along
here
that
that
sell
for
900
by
the
time
you
finish
the
Golden,
Mile,
village
and
and
wonderful
looking
developments
like
this.
A
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
displaced
and
so
I
highlight
it,
because
I
think
we
have
to
go
back
to
planning
and
growth.
It's
a
shame.
H
A
G
City
council
direct
the
applicant
make
best
reasonable
commercial
efforts
to
address
impacts
to
adjacent
properties,
on
Whitmore
Avenue
to
the
west,
with
regards
treatment,
rouble
and
replacement
that
removal
and
replacement
of
fencing
and
related
matters
that
may
arise
as
a
result
of
construction
activities
on
the
subject.
Property
I
just
speak
to
this
man
chair.
So
you
know
the
deputies
didn't
really
talk
about
that.
They
were
opposed
to
the
application.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
original
I
think
staff
may
have
been
partial
to
this
as
well.
G
They
wanted
to
put
up
a
condo
like
1012
stories,
right
which
you
know.
If
you
look
at
this
the
street,
you
know
right
next
door,
there's
another
apartment
building,
so
you
know
the
capacity
you
do
that
you
know
would
have
probably
been
they
would
have
had
a
shot
at
it.
But
you
know
the
residents
didn't
want
this.
G
So
that's
great,
so
so
so
so
I'm
comfortable
doing
that,
you
know
moving
approval
in
that
context.
There
a
number
of
issues
that
are
related
that
the
residents
have
just
raised
with
regard
to
trees
and
and
fencing
and
and
and
water
runoff.
That
needs
to
be
addressed.
I
think
a
lot
of
those
things
could
be
addressed
in
the
site
plan.
G
Councillor
Carol
I
think
she
said
that
you
know
she
doesn't
think
the
site
plan.
It's
gonna
be
issued
any
time
in
the
near
future.
Well
that
depends
on
the
on
the
applicant
and
where
the
applicant
wants
to.
Actually,
you
know
address
the
issues
of
the
residents,
so
so
so
we
can
do
that
so
I.
Don't
think
that
that
we
should
stop
moving
forward.
G
You
know
stop
this
application
moving
forward,
because
there's
still
opportunity
to
address
those
things,
I'm,
not
really
sure
that
you
know
the
one
thing
that
we
actually
don't
get
involved
in
a
property
line
issues
that's
kind
of
outside
the
jurisdiction
of
this
of
council,
but
you
know
we'll,
try
and
see
what
we
can
do.
I'm.
The
one
really
good
thing
about
this
is
in
the
body
of
the
report.
G
Is
we
were
able
to
negotiate
a
section
37
for
850
thousand
dollars
and
that's
a
big
chunk
of
money
for
this
community
and
from
that
I'm,
hoping
that
you
know
we
can.
You
know,
read
reimagine
Whitmore
Park,
you
know
that
can
build
a
pretty
fantastic
splash
pad
and
new
playground
for
all
the
kids
in
the
neighborhood,
so
I'm
like.
Actually
from
that
point
of
view
that
application.
What
you
know
about
the
Victoria
village
is
is,
is
there's
not
a
lot
of
stuff
there
and
you
know
when
to
get
improvements.
G
You
need
section
37
money
now
for
Parks
and
Rec
anything
new
and
unfortunately,
up
until
now
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
development
in
the
area.
So
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
funds.
This
is
the
first
step
that
step
forward
really
positive
step
for
it,
where
we're
going
to
be
able
to
fix
up
of
our
parks
that
needs
some
attention,
so
I'm
actually
really
pleased
about
that.
So
all.
A
Right
we
have
the
motion
before
us
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
we're
going
to
item
5.
Next,
it
was
a
10:15
public
hearings.
Neil
smiley
is
the
only
person
registered
to
speak
to
this
item.
Again,
if
you're
here
to
speak
to
an
item,
please
register
with
the
clerk
go
ahead,
sir.
You
have
five
minutes.
Thank.
Q
Q
With
an
X
through
it,
I
have
with
me
today,
madam
chair
several
board
members
and
congregants,
and
no
doubt
the
synagogue
could
have
easily
filled
the
room
today
with
concerned
residents
and
congregants
alike.
But
given
staffs
recommendations,
madam
chair
of
the
synagogue
has
chosen
to
speak
through
one
voice
today.
As
a
matter
of
background,
the
congregation
was
first
established
in
1928
in
or
about
1966.
It
moved
to
the
Glen
Karen
Avenue
home.
That
I
showed
you
on
the
overhead
today,
with
over
700
family
members.
Q
If
I
could
show
it
to
you,
madam
chair
and
now
the
new
access
point
is
immediately
adjacent
to
the
West
outline
in
blue
I'm,
showing
for
you.
What
I
would
expect
the
average
bear
would
note
would
be
in
compatibility
of
mutual
access
points.
Why
is
cherish
remain
here
today?
It's
here
to
send
council
a
loud
message
of
objection
to
development
as
presently
constituted.
It
wishes
to
support
staffs
recommendations
to
have
council
directly
solicitor,
together
with
appropriate
staff,
to
attend
the
upcoming
OMB
proceedings
to
oppose
the
zoning
bylaw
application
in
its
current
form.
Q
So
there
be
no
misunderstanding:
the
synagogue
is
not
opposed
to
redevelopment
of
the
subject
site.
I
know
you
hear
it
all
the
time,
but
is
honestly
the
truth.
It
also
doesn't
see
itself
measuring
each
square.
Foot
of
Bathurst
Street
related
floor
space
nor
the
height
assuming
it's
reasonable.
It
does,
however,
need
to
ensure
that
its
use
and
enjoyment
of
its
property,
one
that
has
been
the
custodian
of
and
has
been
serving
the
community
for
over
50
years,
is
not
unreasonably
impacted
by
the
proposed
development.
Let
me
share
with
you
two
points.
Q
As
an
obvious
focus
point:
the
synagogue
is
concerned
with
the
health
and
safe
operation
of
its
driveway
entrance
onto
Glen
Karen
Avenue
at
peak
periods
that
access
points,
these
cars
queuing
from
Glen
Karen
Avenue,
to
make
movements
into
the
synagogue
and
cute
cars
queuing
from
the
driveway
to
make
movements
onto
Glen
Karen.
This
situation
is
exacerbated,
madam
chair,
quite
often
outside
of
peak
periods,
when
the
synagogue
has
any
sort
of
community
event
to
think
that
the
proposed
driveway
access
for
the
new
to
can
immediately
exist
next.
Q
To
and
close
proximity
to
the
synagogue's
driveway
is,
with
all
respect,
either
wishful
thinking
or
absurd
add-on.
The
complication
of
additional
traffic.
That's
coming
from
the
development
site.
Madam
chair,
that's
been
recently
before
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board.
That
acts
as
an
egress
point
is
shown
in
green
on
this
plan.
We
really
don't
know
what
that
situations
gonna
look
like
in
the
future.
The
access
point
needs
far
greater
attention.
Q
Secondly,
the
massing
of
the
proposed
structure
onto
a
four-story
element
onto
the
driveway
is
essentially
a
small
apartment
building
that
will
manifest
itself
right
next
to
the
synagogue
property.
If
I
could
show
you
quickly,
the
driveway
and
the
synagogue
building
way
back
from
the
street.
We're
gonna
have
that
mutual
access
here.
Q
To
the
to
the
west,
the
massing
creates
no
sense
of
space,
it
creates
a
tunnel
effect
on
to
the
synagogue
property
and
we
seriously
need
a
setback
in
this
location
where
none
is
provided.
In
closing,
we
support
the
recommendations
in
the
city
staff
report
before
you
today.
We
look
forward
to
the
OMB
hearing
our
issues.
However,
we
will
continue
to
work
with
staff
and
the
counselor,
even
the
applicant,
if
he
so
chooses,
or
they
so
choose
in
hopes
of
achieving
an
appropriate
resolution
of
our
issues.
Thank
you
are.
B
Q
Q
B
Q
B
B
B
Madam
chair,
we
disagree
with
the
conclusions
found
in
the
staff
report,
but
I
rare
encouraged
by
the
fourth
recommendation
in
the
staff
report,
which
is
that
the
city
solicitor
approved
staff
to
be
authorized
to
continue
discussions
with
the
applicant
and
address
issues
of
lined
in
this
report
and
report
back
to
City
Council
that
substantial
positive
changes
are
achieved.
Madam
chair,
it's
the
applicants
intention
to
continue
with
with
the
discussions
with
city
staff.
B
We
have
a
pre-hearing
conference
scheduled
for
December
before
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board,
but
we
have
every
intention
to
continue
discussions
with
staff
and
with
the
with
the
neighboring
synagogue,
as
the
previous
speaker
intended.
The
issue
with
the
synagogue
is
is
correct.
We
have
engaged
in
previous
discussions
to
try
and
share
access
on
the
private
drive,
but
those
discussions
were
not
fruitful
and
are
now
exploring
other
options
to
gain
access
to
this
site
off
of
Glencairn,
which
is
encouraged
in
the
city's
plans.
B
A
A
P
You,
madam
chair
I,
am
the
chair
of
the
Eglin
Park
residents
Association,
which
is
the
body
on
the
ground
where
this
development
is
proposed.
We're
very
pleased
that
the
city
planners
are
opposed
to
the
development.
We
were
shocked
when
the
Bank
of
Montreal
was
brought
down
with
such
haste,
and
we
see
the
present
development
as
oversize.
P
So
we
have
two
very
different
type
ologies
of
Main
streets
in
Toronto
and
the
thing
to
watch
with
Yonge
Street,
particularly
and
also
Eglinton,
Yonge
Street,
very
striking
south
of
Eglinton
north
of
Eglinton,
is
the
immense
pressure
to
transform
an
old
streetcar
street
with
his
ground
near
the
structure
into
something
radically
different,
with
massive
structures.
No
granularity
to
speak
of
now.
This
is
not
an
insoluble
dilemma.
P
They've
been
very
interesting
developments
on
Bayview,
for
instance,
of
mid-rise
buildings,
where,
with
decent
step
back
careful
attention
to
facade
modulation
of
detail,
one
can
recreate
the
feel
of
the
old
pedestrian
streets
by
watching
facades
by
watching
Heights
by
watching.
But
when
can
think
of
as
a
kind
of
variety
and
one
striking
thing
about
the
proposal,
that's
being
sent
back
is
how
flat
and
unburied
the
street
facade
is
how
dull
it
is,
how
totally
antithetical
it
is
to
the
field
of
Yonge
Street,
as
it
continues
north
all
the
way
to
the
brim
of
Hogg's
Hollow.
P
So
what
EPR
8
once
that's
my
organization
as
everybody
rethinks
is
with
goodwill
and
intelligence,
is
reasonable,
massing,
good
services,
housing
for
people
who
are
not
rich
among
others,
and
a
kind
of
responsiveness
to
the
local
context
where
Yonge
Street
remains
Yonge
Street
and
were
the
old
buildings
which
are
heritage
ish
with
their
semi.
Strong
designation
are
allowed
to
retain
their
look,
we've
delighted
even
to
see
the
Bank
of
Montreal
recreated.
P
If
one
could
do
that,
so
as
I
speak
as
I
represented
it
for
my
resident
Association
I
ask
everyone
to
return
to
this
with
intelligence,
goodwill
and
I
do
value
and
an
eye
to
the
nature
of
Yonge
Street,
as
it
looked
feels
as
it
should
continue
to
be,
because
it's
old
streetcar
in
nature
is
a
real
urban
asset.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
F
Do
you
have
a
motion?
Yes,
I'm,
going
to
move
staff
recommendations
on
this
I
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
moving
quickly
on
a
refusal
report
on
this
item.
It
is
a
ridiculous
proposal
at
this
site
and
to
think
that
giving
a
little
bit
of
green
space
in
sort
of
a
response
to
tearing
down
a
hundred
and
ten
year
old
bank
building
would
appease
the
community
is
the
the
developer,
obviously
does
not
know
this
community
as
well
and
is
not
building
anything
or
proposing
anything
that
would
work
in
this
community.
F
A
N
We
have
bought
our
condo
over
three
years
ago
and
a
very
important
part
of
our
decision
before
we
purchased
was
the
fact
that
we
had
a
clear
sudden
view
of
the
city
before
the
purchase.
We
looked
at
other
buildings
nearby
and
we
found
that
buildings
in
the
immediate
area
are
located
on
a
Shepherd
were
anywhere
between
six
to
eight
stories.
So
we
believe
there
was
a
height
restrictions
in
the
area
and,
based
on
that,
we
made
a
decision
to
buy
our
condo
since
our
condo
purchase.
N
We
seen
the
application
to
build
at
621
Shepherd
Avenue
East,
but
we
were
not
against
it
as
it
was
in
line
with
other
buildings
in
the
surrounding
area.
Now,
there's
a
new
applicant
in
front
of
you
to
build
an
11-story
building
which
would
be
three
or
more
stories
taller
than
the
other
buildings
nearby
on
Shepard.
N
If
you
allow
the
11
story,
how
it
you
are
sending
a
president
as
sending
a
message
to
every
potential
developer
in
the
future,
that
the
city
is
easing
up
on
height
restrictions
and
now
allows
11
floors,
are
Shepard
I'm
not
here
to
argue
about
the
density
issue
of
their
project?
I'll,
let
the
city
planners.
Do
the
argument
on
that,
but
I'm
asking
you
to.
Please
reject
the
application
for
such
height
and
do
what's
right
for
the
area
and
what's
right
for
the
condo
owners
in
the
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
Thank.
R
In
the
community,
I
represent
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anybody
here
from
the
applicant
I
really
wish.
There
was
because
I'd
like
to
see
someone
whose
face
keeps
spinning
around
in
circles
and
every
time
they
meet
with
you.
They
tell
you
something
different
and
I
say
that,
because
at
the
request
of
former
mayor
Mel
last
men,
what
some
of
you
remember
he
asked
me
to
meet
with
this
applicant
and
he
said
they're
going
to
work
with
you,
because
the
application-
that's
there,
isn't
appropriate
and
I
said
before
I
work
with
them.
R
I
won't
even
see
them
again
until
they
clean
up
the
site.
The
legal
sales
offices,
illegal,
fencing,
illegal
advertising,
disgraceful
maintenance
of
the
site
itself,
just
a
plague
upon
the
poor
neighbors
that
are
living
there
with
these
empty
houses.
But
some
of
you
have
experienced
but
continue
saying:
I'll
take
care
of
it
so
and
municipal
law
viola
was
out
there
on
numerous
occasions.
It
was,
they
came
in
to
see
me.
They
said.
Don't
worry,
we'll
work
with
you.
R
We
understand
the
plan
and
the
head
keeps
spinning
because
they
say
that
one
day
and
it
spins
around.
They
do
something
else,
the
other,
so
the
short
story,
colleagues,
is.
The
refusal
report
from
staff
is
absolutely
right.
It's
unfortunate
that
we
don't
have
someone
that
wants
to
work
straightforward
and
honest
with
you
that
comes
in
and
works
with
the
staff.
They
really
are
just
wasting
staff
time
with
it.
A
S
S
When
we
moved
into
the
property,
there
was
a
pre-existing
fence
there,
that's
about
30
years
old.
It
was
a
modest
construction
and
about
once
a
year,
vandals
would
kick
in
the
lattice,
and
the
neighborhood
kids
would
knock
off
the
tops,
so
eventually
fell
into
state
of
disrepair
and
we
needed
to
replace
it.
There
was
an
existing,
a
coachman
agreement
from
the
previous
owners,
which
we
maintained.
We
mistakenly
believe
that
we
could
rebuild
on
the
existing
footprint,
and
so
we
rebuilt
a
a
new
fence
in
the
same
position
as
the
old
fence
using
the
same
post.
S
Holes
now
recognize
that
was
a
mistake.
I
apologize
for
that
the
fence
I
believe
is
in
keeping
with
the
neighborhood
most
other
corner.
Lots
on
the
same
street
have
a
similar
offense
in
a
similar
position.
The
staff
report
believes
there's
no
transportation
issues
given
how
far
back
it
is
from
the
corner.
S
We
have
cut
back
the
hedge
already
in
the
front
of
the
property
to
comply
with
the
height,
both
neighbors
on
either
side
have
said
that
they,
like
the
fence,
we've
probably
had
a
hundred
neighbors
walking
by
the
property,
saying
that
it's
a
big
improvement
from
the
old
fence
I'd
like
to
thank
the
councillor,
Carmichael
Greb
for
coming
out
and
having
a
look
at
it
and
the
staff
for
coming
to
work
with
us
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
A
A
I
I
see
some
of
my
colleagues
deferring
items
I'm
tempted
to
defer
this,
but
I
actually,
rather
just
move
through
the
system
so
I'm.
If,
if
council
would
support
me,
what
I'm
recommending
is
that
we
move
it
forward
to
City
Council
without
recommendation,
so
I
can
have
a
bit
more
time
to
work
with
the
parties.
Would
that
be
acceptable?
Yes,
thank
you.
All.
B
B
A
B
A
B
H
Madam
Speaker,
as
as
ownership
of
most
of
the
property,
is
in
the
city's
hands
I'm
sure
they
won't
mind
if
we
move
the
the
strictest
of
conditions,
I'm
moving
approval
of
the
demolition,
but
it
will
be
some
time
before
the
road
is
built.
So
motion
number
three
is
approve
the
application
to
demolish
vacant
residential
building
with
the
following
conditions
and
I
think
we
can
consider
them.
A
A
K
K
K
K
So
we
cannot
take
this
basement
as
a
living
space
also
because
the
water
comes
out
from
the
same
room
of
the
heating
system,
so
that
may
cause
a
danger
of
you
know
in
the
future.
I
don't
know
it's
costly
electricity
or
some
other
damage
to
the
heating
system.
You
can
see
the
water
level
is
very
high
and
also
because
the
mode
we
cannot
it's
pose.
K
Health
concern
to
a
family,
and
especially
to
my
daughter,
he's
she's
three
years
old
and
also
everyday
life
was
impacted
because
we
cannot
put
even
the
toilet
paper
under
in
the
toilet,
because
even
small
piece
of
paper
we
cause
the
colored
and
they
block
in
the
soy
soy
system
free.
So
every
time
we
take
a
bath
or
wash
machine
washing
machine
I
used
a
toilet.
K
We
have
to
conserve
thing
about
concern
about
the
basement,
flooding
and
that
every
time
we
have
to
call
the
plumber
to
use
the
heavy
machine
that
this
lake
he
has
to
remove
the
toilet
in
the
basement
to
put
the
snake
inside
the
toy
system
to
remove
the
root
of
the
sheet
and
the
plumber
told
us
this
situation
becomes
even
worse.
Every
time
because
the
machine
has
damaged
every
time
use
my
damaged
the
pipeline
is
ceramic
I
believe
may
break
the
system
under
the
sewage
pipeline.
K
I
believe
that
has
been
done
by
the
city,
but
the
inside
part
of
the
house
was
not
replaced
because
I
think
that's
difficulty
to
replace,
because
the
they
have
more
than
half
of
the
basement
was
that
close
crawl
space,
so
it's
very
hard
to
for
them
to
do
their
work
to
take
or
do
any
kind
of
work,
because
it's
I
think
it's
one
meter
high
or
like
those
you
cannot
do
anything
yeah.
You
see
it's
it's
very,
it's
a
very
limited.
K
So
then
the
worker
has
to
crawl
into
the
space
to
to
do
their
work
to
replace
and
they
complete
told
us
is
very
costly.
It's
not
feasible
to
replace
the
sort
pipeline
in
under
my
house
and
decide
that
I
think
the
silver
map
is
not
suitable
for
this
city
street.
According
to
the
Ontario
dossier
and
the
wiki
pedia,
this
Chi
is
can
grow
very
big
mona
one
meter
in
diameter
and
also
very
tall
and
the
the
roots
are
very
aggressive.
K
It
may
damage
the
sewage
system
and
the
war
of
the
house
also
they
are
the
walkway,
like
those
it's
very
hard
to
control
the
route,
but
for
this
for
this
she.
So
what
we
request
is
to
replace
this
with
the
smaller,
smaller
chi
in
front
of
our
house,
so
yeah
from
the
house,
because
the
currently
the
trees,
very
cool,
splendid,
very
close
to
our
house,
so
that
the
route
may
come
inside
our
house
to
cause
the
damage.
H
K
K
H
K
H
K
K
C
K
K
R
T
R
K
R
K
A
R
Madam
chair
and
my
colleagues
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
my
constituents
that
are
here.
However,
we
all
know
that
cutting
down
the
tree
isn't
going
to
fix
the
pipe
because
the
pipes
broken
and
it's
leaking
and
it
shouldn't
be
leaking
raw
sewage
into
the
ground.
So
I'm
gonna
support
the
staff
recommendations
to
denying,
but
to
the
Chen's.
R
You
have
not
contacted
my
office
in
the
past.
Please
contact
my
office.
We
will
ask
our
folks
in
water
waste
water
to
come
out
and
see
how
they
can
look
at
it
and
give
you
some
advice.
I
would
strongly
suggest
you
get
a
camera
and
spec
ssin
of
it
to
find
out
what's
wrong
and
then
some
estimates
to
fix
it
because
it's
leaking
into
the
ground
and
we
can't
permit
pipes
to
leak.
The
second
part
is
even
if
I
try
to
move
it
here.
I
would
never
get
it
through
City
Council.
A
O
The
tree
is
affecting
all
the
fences,
neighboring
lawns
and
foundations
for
sheds
and
all
the
neighbors
were
like
to
have
it
removed,
and
it
has
other
reasons
for
removal
as
well,
including
the
roots,
some
cracks
and,
and
many
other
reasons
that
my
arborist
would
like
to
comment
on
so
I
like
to
introduce
Andrew,
Wood
Gaines.
Here,
yes,.
L
Good
morning
my
name
is
Andrew
Wood
Gaines
I'm,
an
arborist
in
the
City
of
Toronto
for
the
past
35
years.
We
took
a
look
at
this
tree
that
summer,
when
there's
a
lot
of
leaves
on
the
tree
and
the
Norma
maples
are,
are
notorious
for
growing,
fast
and
and
smothering
all
other
trees
and
ruining
a
biodiversity
intervenes,
but
they're,
not
a
bad
city
tree,
because
they
provide
a
lot
of
shade
in
this
situation.
The.
L
L
L
Verticillium
wilt
scar,
it's
very
large
and
there's
all
some
lateral
branches
that
have
declining
them
on
this
tree
now,
the
tree
beside
that
has
been
condemned.
There's
a
hazard,
a
tree
as
be
removed,
and
that's
gonna
create
a
lot
of
Sun
scalding
on
this
tree.
So
it's
going
to
exasperate
the
situation
so
I'm
not
saying
that
the
trees,
an
imminent
hazard
and
it's
hard
to
say
where
lives,
you
know,
will
live
another
10
years
or
or
two
years
it's
hard
to
say,
but
it
has
a
certain
contributing
factors
to
the
decline
of
the
tree.
L
H
L
L
At
this
point,
but
these
are
sort
of
growth
restricting
values,
factors
that
may
affect
the
tree
as
years
go
by
so
those
growing
roots
they
restrict
their
growth
and
already
on
that,
the
root
crown
is
not
flaring
out.
So
you
know
that
there's
something
constricting
underneath
there
and
a
lot
of
times,
Nora
maples
they
get
to
a
certain
size
and
they
just
fall
over
now
this
tree
because
of
his
location,
it's
probably
a
voluntary
volunteer,
so
it
wasn't
really
planted.
So
it
wasn't.
L
H
I'm
really
I'm
really
having
trouble
what
tree
got
removed.
Then
the
report
here
says
the
subject
tree
had
some
visible
girding
roots,
but
they
were
small
with
no
apparent
effect
on
health
of
the
tree
at
this
time,
the
adjacent
tree
that
was
perceived
to
have
a
competitive
advantage
was
removed.
Since
the
time
of
this
application
is
that
the
tree
I
see
in
the
picture
that
is
attached
to
this
report.
There
are
two
trees
in
the
picture.
That's.
O
I
O
G
C
C
L
C
But
it's
it's
slated
to
come
out
so
dealing
with
what
we
have
today,
this
the
your
two
back
to
your
two
points,
damaging
an
existing
fence.
We
can
deal
with
that.
Second
point:
interfering
with
another
tree
that
other
treat
is
slated
to
come
down
due
to
its
health,
from
what
I
read
in
the
report
right.
So
that's
no
longer
an
issue.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
now
we're
did
dealing
with
damaging
an
existing
fence.
However,
your
deputation
today
seems
to
be
more
about
anticipating
the
decline
of
this
tree
in
question.
C
L
C
L
Okay,
okay,
so
we
went
this
morning
and
I
saw
the
big
crack
on
the
tree.
That's
exempt
to
come
out
like
CY,
and
on
this
tree
we
saw
some
large
scars
up
the
tree
which
are
verticillium
wilt
and
that's
a
disease
that
gets
into
the
Nora
maples
that's
terminal,
but
the
how
fast
that
disease
goes
to
a
tree
is.
It
depends
on
the
help
of
the
tree,
but
already
up
you
look
up
the
crack,
then
there's
a
lateral
branch,
that's
already,
cracked
as
well,
declining
and
then
further
out.
There's
another
crack
up
the
tree.
L
L
Yeah
so,
like
you
know,
we're
looking
for
the
future,
how
viable
is
this
tree
and
if
we're
gonna
have
these
problems
of
the
treaty
like
say
five
years,
whatever
you
see
that
the
will
to
progress
the
tree
and
some
of
there's
better
to
plant
a
tree
now
at
say,
a
sixty
millimeter
tree
planted
now
will
be
120
millimeter
tree
planted.
You
know
that
grows
out
in
so.
C
O
O
O
O
C
So
then,
this
is
my
last
question
and
thank
you
for
your
indulgence,
I'm
sure
so
from
I
understand
the
airburst,
the
landlord's
point
of
view
about
anticipation,
but
from
the
from
the
residents
neighboring
residents
its.
It
really
comes
down
to
the
there's.
A
promise
tree
isn't
interfering
with
the
fence
so
from
the
residents
standpoint
and
I.
Don't
want
to
put
words
in
your
mouth
but
I
do
it
would
like
you
to
confirm
your
concern?
You'd
rather
cut
down
the
tree,
then
move
the
fence.
H
Yeah
madam
Speaker
I'm
I'm
gonna
move
staffs
recommendation
to
deny
the
removal
of
the
tree
that
the
applicant
can
remove
another
tree.
He
already
has
permission
to
do
that,
but
our
policy
specifically
states
that
we
value
trees
in
the
tree
canopy
and
the
air
we
breathe
over
fences,
which
is
why
I
had
to
rebuild
the
fence
in
my
very
own
property.
H
Not
too
long
ago,
a
lilac
bush
that
turned
out
to
be
more
of
a
tree
than
a
lilac
bush
sort
of
took
over
the
backyard
and
knocked
the
fence
over
and
my
neighbor
and
I
split
the
cost
and
built
a
new
fence,
because
I
canceled
well
enough
to
know
that
there
was
no
cutting
down
this
tree
and
it
is
now
a
lovely
tree.
That's
sort
of
how
the
policy
works.
H
It
specifically
states
and
the
report
that
that
the
city
staffs
evaluation,
is
that
the
fence
can
be
rebuilt
without
damaging
the
tree
and
that's
the
lens
through
which
we
look
at
this.
Not
how
can
we
save
the
fence
it's?
How
can
we
save
the
tree
because
the
fence
doesn't
leave
a
legacy
of
healthy
air
for
my
grandkids
to
breathe?
The
tree
does,
and
so
we
look
first
to
save
the
tree.
That's
what
staffs
denial
is
for,
and
it's
very
unusual
for
someone
did
be
able
to
remove
one
tree.
H
A
T
Hello
good
morning,
everyone
I
complain
about
that
to
some
tree
for
the
for
Christmas
tree,
and
they
make
me
so
much
problem
and
I
am
very
happy
with
this.
Neighbor
I
am
very
happy
with
the
housing
and
only
problem
is
life
threading.
My
my
I
have
some
picture
on
when
I
go
enter
to
the
tree
and
my
I
go
into
the
hospital
and
my
eyes
on
the
swelling
my
tongue
was
swirling.
My
all
the
body
effect
tada
tada
tada
elegy
is
very
big.
T
Allergy
and
I
received
a
letter
from
the
city,
the
city
as
healthy,
but
I
request.
I
am
sick
children
of
mother
their
own
care
about
my
help
too,
because
it
is
I'm
gonna
going
to
die
and
who
gonna
take
care
of
my
children,
because
tea
is
not
important
to
people.
Health
health
is
more
important
for
I.
Have
some
so
picture.
If
you
allowed
to
I,
show
the
picture
an
allergy
effect
to
my
body
and
I
request
to
remove
that
tree
soon
as
possible.
Please
thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions?
T
T
T
T
G
G
T
T
G
G
T
G
H
T
H
Used
to
live
there
I
know
that
that
one
of
the
challenges-
this
is
one
of
the
town
houses
in
the
four
bedroom
units.
But
there
are
four
bedroom
units
elsewhere
in
this
development,
wherever
the
overpasses
are
and
I
know
that,
because
when
I
lived
there,
we
needed
to
move
the
sister
with
a
heart
condition
and
the
stairs
were
too
much
and
we
simply
got
on
the
list
and
as
soon
as
the
owners
were
able
to
move
me
elsewhere
in
the
development,
because
there's
quite
a
large
townhouse
complex,
have
you
asked
to
be
relocated.