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Planning and Growth Management Committee, meeting 29, May 1, 2018 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=13042
Part 2 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfQPucorAp4#t=7m
Meeting Navigation:
0:11:17 - Call to order
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Thank
you
very
much.
We
have
such
a
lively
crowd
this
morning,
everybody's
so
awake
nice
to
see.
Welcome
to
meeting
29
of
the
planning
and
growth
management
committee.
Welcome
to
the
members
of
the
committee,
the
other
members
of
council
that
I
run
attendance
and
to
the
members
of
the
public
for
those
in
the
room
with
us.
The
screen
at
the
back
of
the
room
provides
real-time
updates
concerning
where
we
are
in
the
agenda.
What's
coming
up
next,
you
can
follow
the
agenda
and
debate
on
your
computer
tablet
or
smartphone
at
WWDC
a
forward,
slash
council.
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It's
amendments
to
the
Planning
Act,
the
province
of
land,
use
planning,
appeal
system
implementation,
trying
to
deal
with
the
impacts
that
the
city
is
going
to
have
with
all
of
the
changes,
and
it
has
some
recomendation
for
staffing,
I
thought
we
could
hold
this
and
we
would
have
staff
give
us
a
briefing
on
it.
So
we
understand
what's
in
it
and
then
we
can
consider
it
later
on
to
the
meeting
unless
we
have
time
before
we
start
at
10:30
city
of
bonds,
young
steel,
cord,
a
second,
he
plan
a
request
for
Direction
report.
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All
have
speakers
I,
don't
know
if
the
speakers
are
going
to
be
the
same
on
all
those
and
for
the
same
matters,
but
we
can.
We
have
to
hold
Teal'c
or
until
10:30,
so
what
we
could
do
is
we
can
start
off
because
they're
all
being
held
for
speakers
with
29.1
I
think
there'll
be
a
great
thing
to
do,
and
there
is
a
presentation
from
our
new
chief
building
official
mr.
Willow
Johnston.
This
is
his
first
meeting
here
as
chief
building
official
and
he's
here
with
his
first
big
plan.
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So
good
morning,
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
members
of
committee,
so
I'm
will
Johnson
I'm
the
chief
building
official
and
executive
director
of
Toronto
building.
So
what
I
is
in
front
of
you?
I'm
gonna
run
through
a
presentation
that
summarizes
the
report.
That's
in
front
of
you
around
our
strategy
for
minimizing
the
negative
impacts
of
residential
infill
construction.
It's
an
update
based
on
the
direction
that
councils
already
given
on
this
matter.
So
one
thing
just
before
I
start
I'll
just
provide
some
background.
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I
would
say
on
trying
to
come
up
with
a
strategy
to
minimize
the
impact
of
impacts
of
infill
construction
in
built
neighborhoods,
and
we
worked
very
closely
with
the
ratepayers
associations
or
residents
associations,
as
well
as
build
and
I
think
the
positive
story
there
is
that
everyone
recognizes
there
is
an
issue
and
there's
a
strong
willingness
to
come
up
with
a
solution
to
address
the
issues
so
just
to
start
off
what
is
residential
infill.
So
residential
infill
is
situations
where
you
have
an
existing
a
vacant
land,
a
vacant
piece
of
property.
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Where
someone
goes
into
an
established,
neighborhood
and
builds
a
new
house,
it
could
be
a
new
house,
a
duplex,
semi
or
triplex.
It
could
be
a
situation
where
you
have
an
existing
home
there,
it's
being
demolished
in
a
new
single-family
home,
duplex,
triplex
or
semi
is
being
built,
or
it
also
can
be
a
situation
where
you
have
an
existing
home
and
they're
demolishing
most
of
it
and
saving
about
50%
of
the
walls
in
order
to
maintain
their
existing
non-conforming
zoning
requirements.
That
also
would
be
an
infill
project.
C
The
other
thing
there
is
that
often
in
often
cases
you
know
previously,
I
would
say
the
city
was
lacking
of
cooperative
framework
or
a
strategy
in
order
to
deal
with
those
complaints,
and
so
the
whole
idea
of
this
strategy
is
to
move
more
to
a
proactive
approach
to
dealing
with
the
problem
as
opposed
to
a
reactive
approach.
So
the
strategies
divided
up
into
what
I
would
call
three
major
categories.
One
is:
what
can
the
city
do
to
improve
complaints
and
manage
those
complaints
in
the
city?
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What
can
we
do
as
a
city
and
to
encourage
good
construction
practices,
and
what
can
we
do
to
improve
the
communication
to
residents
in
the
neighborhood?
So
they
understand?
What's
going
on
my
personal
view?
There
is
that,
if
neighbors
understand
what
is
being
built
and
what
to
expect
often
that
can
reduce
the
anxiety
and
people
have
a
better
sense
of
what's
going
on
and
it
can
actually
help
with
things
going
smoother.
So,
just
in
those
three
categories,
there
were
a
number
of
action
items
that
actually
supported
each
one
of
those
strategies.
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What
I
can
report
on
today
is
all
of
those
action
items,
with
the
exception
of
the
two
that
are
shown
in
white
are
all
underway,
and
most
of
those
I
would
say,
are
at
completion
or
nearing
completion.
The
two
outstanding
matters
which
we're
going
to
talk
about
today
are
mentioned
in
the
report.
One
is
the
public
information
notice
and
that
requires
a
bylaw,
and
that
is
in
front
of
you
today
to
make
a
decision.
The
second
is
around
dust
control
and
that
will
be
coming
back
through
MLS
I.
Think
in.
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July
I
think
it
was
it's
coming
forward,
so
I'm
just
gonna
run
through
the
actions
that
have
happened
to
date
with
the
strategy.
So
one
of
the
key
components
to
this
was
us
setting
up
a
dedicated
enforcement
unit
and
the
dedicated
enforcement
unit
was
set
up
to
work
citywide,
it's
established
in
North
York
and
it's
to
provide
support
to
all
of
the
districts
across
the
city.
C
Another
component
of
this
strategy
was,
as
you
can
you're
probably
aware
of,
is
in
the
city.
It's
not
just
Toronto
building
that's
dealing
with
residential
infill
sites,
so
there's
a
number
of
divisions
across
the
city
or
dealing
with
it,
which
actually
adds
to
the
complexity
for
the
public
when
they're
trying
to
deal
with
sites
or
have
concerns
with
them.
So
what
we
did
as
we
set
up
in
Toronto
building
an
inter
divisional
working
group.
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That
purpose
was
to
establish
a
benchmark,
so
we
could
get
a
sense
as
to
what
are
the
issues
so
that
we
could
later
come
back
and
measure.
What
is
the
effectiveness
of
the
program?
The
other
advantage
of
that
targeted
enforcement
program
was
also
in
order
for
us
to
determine.
Where
are
the
problem
areas
in
the
infill
construction
and
I
believe
that
over
time
those
could
change,
and
one
of
the
recommendations
in
the
report
is
that
we
do
that.
C
We
get
direction
to
do
this
once
a
year
so
that
we're
constantly
measuring
how
effective
is
the
program,
and,
secondly,
are
the
issues
changing.
So
we
know
what
areas
to
focus
in
as
far
as
the
strategy
goes,
so
proving
can
be
education
to
the
residents
number
of
things.
Key
things
happen
there.
The
first
is
that
Toronto
Building
worked
with
the
other
divisions
in
the
city
that
have
an
interest
in
infill
construction
along
with
build
and
the
residents
associations,
and
what
I
can
say
is
that
they
did.
C
They
were
very
successful
in
producing
a
good
neighbor
guide.
That
guide
actually
is
a
very
comprehensive
guide
that
speaks
to
all
of
the
issues
that
can
come
up
during
the
construction
of
an
infill
project.
It
speaks
to
what
the
rules
are,
what
the
expectation
is
for
the
city,
as
well
as
what
the
consequence
of
non-compliance
is,
and
this
what
I
this
guide
has
been
quite
successful
in
the
fact
that
we
put
it
out
with
all
of
our
permits
that
we
issue
and
it's
on
our
website
and
it's
a
fairly
put
the
very
popular
site.
C
At
the
same
time,
we've
issued
on
that
site,
we
list
all
of
the
orders
that
we've
issued
and
then
the
Stata
date
that
those
orders
were
issued,
as
well
as
the
status
of
those
orders.
So
it's
making
all
of
that
information
transparent
to
the
public,
so
they
can
see
what
is
going
on
on
those
sites,
and
so
that's
in
place
already.
C
Furthermore,
for
encouraging
good
construction
practices,
what
we
did
is
put
our
zone,
our
building
inspectors
through
fairly
extensive
zoning
training,
and
so,
if
you
think
about
the
role
of
a
building
inspector,
traditionally,
building
inspectors
are
quite
knowledgeable
on
the
requirements
of
the
building
code,
which
speak
to
the
life
safety
requirements
of
the
code.
If
you
think
of
what
goes
on
in
a
residential
infill
site.
Most
of
you,
probably,
your
complaints
are
very
seldom
someone
complaining
about
the
fact
that
somebody
will
only
put
two
two
by
ten
beams
in
the
place
as
opposed
three.
C
The
knowledge
on
the
zoning
was
a
bit
hit-and-miss,
and
so
what
we
did
is
we
put
all
of
our
inspectors
through
an
intensive
training
program
to
not
to
make
them
experts
on
zoning
but
to
bring
up
their
knowledge
so
that
they
could
better
identify
key
issues
in
the
field
as
constructions
progressing.
So
that
course
that
we
put
all
of
our
inspectors
through
was
a
full-day
course.
Half
of
it
was
in
the
classroom.
C
Second,
half
of
the
course
was
in
the
field
with
their
senior
inspector
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
those
understood
all
of
those
key
issues
with
respect
to
zoning.
One
of
the
ways
that
are
probably
the
primary
way
that
Toronto
Building
confirms
that
the
building
or
the
home
is
in
accordance
with
the
approved
plans
and
the
height
and
location
is
correct.
Is
we
require
an
as-built
survey
from
a
licensed
land
surveyor
to
provide
that
that
confirmation
in
the
past
that,
as
built
survey,
could
have
come
in
any
time
during
construction?
C
C
Then
we
can
have
a
better
sense
as
to
where
things
will
go
and
if
it
isn't
we're
not
dealing
with
a
fully
framed
house
or
fully
enclosed
house
and
then
identifying
the
issue
that
the
hopes
is
too
high,
which
sometimes
has
happened
in
the
past.
So
what
we've
done
there
is
that
the
building
inspector,
when
they
get
there
as
built
survey,
they're
meeting
with
the
zoning
examiner,
who
actually
issued
the
permit
for
zoning
who's,
probably
better
versed
in
the
requirements
of
the
zoning
bylaw
and
together
they're.
C
Looking
at
that
as
built
ceremony,
to
make
a
determination
if
the
house
is
corrective
if
it's
being
built
in
accordance
with
the
approved
plans,
the
idea
there
is
to
increase
the
inspectors.
Knowledge
also
identify
these
issues
much
earlier
in
the
construction
process,
so
that
action
can
be
taken
sooner.
We've
also
increased
our
use
of
ticketing
as
an
enforcement
tool,
so
when
a
building
inspector
issues
an
order,
the
only
way
to
enforce
that
order.
C
If
the
builder
decides
not
to
comply
with
the
order,
is
through
the
courts,
which
is
a
very
lengthy
process,
and
so
I'm
not
saying
that
ticketing
is
our
first
go-to
movement
enforcement.
But
where
we're
dealing
with
issues
of
non-compliance
and
we're
not
getting
the
builders
attention,
we
do
have
the
ability
to
issue
tickets
as
a
way
to
get
compliance.
C
We've
also
set
up,
what's
called
an
introductory
inspection,
and
so
the
purpose
of
this
introductory
inspection
is
to
educate
the
permit
holders,
the
owners,
the
contractors
about
their
responsibilities
and
as
well
as
what
the
city's
expectations
and
their
obligations
are.
As
the
construction
progresses.
It's
a
good
opportunity
to
speak
about
the
good
neighbor
guide
to
make
sure
the
Builder
and
the
owner
understand
what
the
expectations
that
are
in
that
regard
and
how
they
can
be
a
good
neighbor
in
order
to
mitigate
the
issues
as
the
construction
proceeds.
C
It
also
is
an
opportunity
for
the
building
inspector
to
speak
to
the
property
owner
and
builder,
about
the
importance
of
closing
out
their
permit
at
the
end
and
calling
for
that
final
inspection
in
order
to
close
the
permit
in
order
to
control
the
amount
of
open
permits
that
we
have
so
I'm
just
gonna
run
through
now.
This
is
probably
the
meet
of
the
report.
C
That's
in
front
of
you,
where
you
need
we're
asking
you
to
make
a
decision
on,
is
the
residential
infill
construction
information
notice,
so
I'm
just
going
to
run
through
the
key
components
of
that.
So
the
purpose
of
this
notice
is
to
provide
the
public
with
clear,
accessible
and
useful
information
in
order
for
them
to
know
what
is
going
on
on
the
site,
hopefully
so
that
they
can
resolve
issues
themselves.
It
provides
key
information
about
who
the
Builder
is
what's
being
built
on
the
site
and
it's
used
also
as
the
gateway
into
the
city
system.
C
So
when
someone's
looking
at
that
site,
they,
it
also
speaks
to
the
site
that
they
can
go
to
to
see
what
the
inspection
status
is
and
what
orders
have
been
issued
on.
The
property,
the
whole
ideas
there
is
to
foster
clarity
about
the
rules
and
provide
in
from
better
information
to
the
public.
About
what's
going
on,
the
intent
is
not
to
delay
the
construction.
It's
meant
to
actually
improve
the
communication,
and
we've
done
this
through
the
City
of
Toronto
act,
as
opposed
through
the
building
code
act.
C
C
However,
the
permit
placard
is
probably
the
key
piece
of
information
that
the
public
can
use
to
see
whether
or
not
a
permits
been
issued,
and
you
obtain
that
permit
number,
so
they
can
go
and
look
for
further
information
in
that
regard,
where
the
arrow
is
showing
is
that's
typically,
a
very
small
eight
knife
by
eleven
sheet
and
the
sign
that
we're
thinking
of
is
a
much
larger
sign
that
would
go
on
site.
That
would
provide
this
key
information.
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C
The
information
notice
in
the
case
of
demolition
needs
to
be
posted
five
days
prior
to
the
start
of
the
demolition
and
for
the
construction
phase.
The
sign
needs
to
go
up
or
the
notice
needs
to
be
posted
within
five
days
of
construction
commencing
once
the
site
or
the
notice
is
installed
on
the
site.
C
The
Builder
is
required
to
submit
a
photograph
to
Toronto
building,
showing
that
the
notice
has
been
posted
and,
at
the
same
time,
at
the
first
introductory
inspection
is
an
opportunity
for
the
building
inspector
to
confirm
that
the
notice
has
been
properly
put
on
the
site.
We're
also
looking
seeking
authority
to
issue
tickets
for
builders
or
property
owners
who
fail
to
comply
with
the
notice
and
the
notice
is
required
to
come
down
at
the
point
where
Toronto
Building
issues
the
occupancy
permit
next
to
illustrations
are
just
a
Ellis
tration
of
the
can
fill
notice.
C
Sign,
that's
required
to
be
posted.
That's
two
components
to
it
on
the
far
right
is
really
speaking
to
the
site
address
it
speaks
to
who
the
Builder
is
gives.
The
key
information
for
the
Builder
gives
a
brief
project
description
as
well
as
a
rendering
of
what
the
finished
product
should
look
like
has
a
link
into
the
city
if,
if
folks
need
to
want
to
get
further
information
or
file,
complaints
with
Toronto
Building
also
speaks
to
committee
of
adjustment.
C
Decisions
that
may
have
been
made
on
the
site
as
well
on
the
right-hand
side
is
just
a
summary
of
some
of
the
key
points
out
of
the
good
neighbor
guide
about
how
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
So
if
the
one
for
the
construction,
which
the
one
I'm
showing
you
now
and
we
have
a
similar
sign
that
or
notice
that
would
need
to
be
posted
for
the
demolition.
A
A
Our
first
deputy
is
John
Carlos.
This
llll
fitness
from
build-
where
is
John
Carlos
I,
saw
him
downstairs
earlier.
Please
come
forward
for
those
of
you
that
are
here
for
the
first
time.
Deputations
are
five
minutes.
We
ask
you
to
stay
on
the
topic.
That's
in
front
of
us.
The
clock
will
be
running
over
there.
If
there's
questions
it'll
be
from
us
members
of
council
when
you're
finished.
Thank
you
did
you
want
to
use
the
overhead.
B
A
B
Yes,
thank
you
mr.
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
and
members
of
the
general
public.
My
name
is
John
Carlos,
al
fetus
and
I'm
here
today
on
behalf
of
The
Renovators
Council
of
the
building
industry
and
land
development
Association.
It
is
a
pleasure
to
have
this
opportunity
to
address
you
today.
As
you
may
know,
the
infill
construction
and
renovation
industry
has
now
eclipsed
the
new
home
industry
in
terms
of
size
and
economic
impact.
In
fact,
we
are
larger
than
the
auto
industry
in
the
City
of
Toronto
alone.
B
Last
year,
the
industry
generated
almost
6
billion
in
investment
value
created
over
36,000
jobs,
paying
about
2.1
billion
in
wages.
We
are
a
significant
economic
driver
of
the
city
and
hope
to
continue
to
be
so.
Let
me
quickly
draw
your
attention
to
the
screen.
I
know
the
writing
is
small,
but
this
is
an
opportunity
to
remind
the
city
of
our
rental
mark
program
established
by
build
recognize
the
nine
provinces
in
more
than
40
communities.
The
program
identifies
professional
contractors
who
have
agreed
to
abide
by
a
renovation,
specific
code
of
conduct.
B
Our
members
that
build
are
the
professional,
renovators
and
builders
who
play
by
the
rules,
carry
the
necessary
licenses
and
insurance
coverage,
offer
written
contracts
and
warranties
and
don't
run
away
at
the
first
sign
of
an
inspector.
That
is
why
we
have
been
an
the
van
engage
partner
with
the
city
on
the
strategy
for
minimizing
the
negative
impacts
of
residential
infill
construction.
B
The
update
report
you
have
before
you
addresses
ways
that
random
arc
renovators
in
the
city
can
continue
to
work
together
and
we
have
been
proud
to
work
with
staff
on
many
of
the
items
reported.
The
city
has
made
great
progress
since
the
last
time.
I
was
here
in
2016
speaking
to
the
initial
report,
and
we
appreciate
the
proactive
approach
that
has
been
taken
to
highlight
a
few
points
regarding
the
proposed
bylaw
for
the
posting
of
public
no
design
on
infill
construction
and
demo
sites.
B
We
agree
with
the
aim
of
providing
clear,
understandable
information
to
residents
to
resolve
issues
in
a
timely
manner,
although
there
are
many
signs
that
we
are
mandated
by
other
authorities
to
post,
we
share
the
city's
desire
for
improved
communication
to
residents
and
we
embrace
the
proposed
notification
sign.
We
add
build,
went
so
far
as
to
create
our
own
sign
to
indicate
that
we
respect
our
neighbors
and
our
environment.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
the
city
in
ways
that
can
collectively
recognize
the
rena
mark
brand
and
acknowledge
the
extra
level
of
professionalism
that
it
represents.
B
As
for
the
dedicated
residential
infill
website,
we
applaud
the
city
for
achieving
a
mechanism
that
allows
both
residents
and
renovators
the
access
to
permit
status.
Information
that
we
had
built
have
been
advocating
for
for
quite
some
time.
We
as
well
as
our
clients,
need
an
accurate
record
of
inspections
and
their
status.
Prior
to
this,
we
as
an
industry
would
not
receive
any
written
inspection
reports
and
today's
information
age.
B
This
was
something
that
we
couldn't
understand
and
it
made
for
very
confusing
situations,
particularly
when
what
we
would
think
will
closed
permits
would
be
reopened
years
later
because
of
insufficient
data
entry
by
the
original
inspector.
This
new
system
will
give
homeowners
and
renovators
access
to
the
proper
and
most
information,
and
as
long
as
the
system
is
updated
and
maintained
on
a
regular
basis,
it
is
an
excellent
step
in
the
right
direction.
B
On
the
good
neighbor
guide,
we
had
built
we're
very
proud
to
have
worked
with
city
staff
on
its
creation,
as
best
practices
are
equally
important
to
Renault
mark
renovators.
We
have
made
sure
our
members
have
a
copy
of
this
guide
and
encourage
them
to
share
it
with
their
clients,
with
respect
to
inspection
and
enforcement.
B
Needless
to
say,
timely
access
to
inspectors
for
us
is
just
as
important
as
conducting
inspections
into
the
city.
We
believe
it
is
in
everyone's
interest
to
ensure
that
projects
are
built
properly
and
as
for
the
approved
plans
overall,
we
do
believe
that
this
report
is
a
laudable
effort
at
streamlining
the
infill
construction
process
and
at
standardizing
expectations.
We,
as
the
renovation
and
infill
industry,
take
pride
in
the
work
we
do
and
in
meeting
not
only
our
clients
but
the
city's
high
expectations.
B
D
L,
like
people
who
build
homes
for
a
living
as
opposed
to,
but
you
know,
my
perception,
certainly
of
the
area
I
represent-
is
that
there
are
people
who
buy
property
and
then
hire
contractors
and
cause
houses
to
be
built.
They
are
not
home
builders
in
the
end
and
the
way
you
used
to
have
home
builders,
the.
B
Only
thing
we
can
shed
light
on
with
respect
to
that
councillor
is
statistics.
Canada
estimates
that
the
underground
economy
in
construction
is
equivalent
to
roughly
18
to
20
percent
of
all
activity.
Now
that's
significant
there's
no
question
about,
but
again
it's
an
estimate
from
stats
Kent.
We
have
no
way
of
their.
D
Finances
but
okay,
say
I,
just
wondered
if
you
knew
and
and
any
thoughts
on
again
my
perception
of
Willowdale
is
that
most
most
there's
very
relatively
few
renovations,
mostly
the
house
gets
knocked
down.
New
house
gets
built
and
it's
you
know
hard
to
find
who's
in
charge
of
it,
even
its
any
thoughts
on
how
to
bring
that
under
control.
B
Yes,
I
understand
the
question.
I
think
the
enforcement
unit
that
was
created
is
a
good
first
step.
I
think
we
need
better
communication.
All
the
way
around.
All
stakeholders
in
this
industry
need
to
do
a
better
job
at
communicating
with
one
another.
But
to
that
end,
counselor
one
of
the
frustrations
we
face
as
an
industry
is
the
inordinate
amount
of
time
it
takes
to
get
permits
or
get
committee
of
adjustments
hearings.
B
What
that
does
is
it
exacerbates
the
issue
of
homeowners,
saying
I
can't
wait
eight
months
for
a
building
permit
I'm
expecting
in
addition
to
my
family
I
need
this
house
done
and
that
fuels
I,
think
problematic,
building
and
problematic
builders,
so
I
think
all
in
all,
everyone
has
a
role
to
play.
We
all
have
a
part
to
play
here,
and
that
is,
let's
get
transparency
going.
Let's
streamline
the
process
so
everyone's
on
the
same
page.
D
A
How
are
you
assuring
that,
when
occupancy
takes
place
with
the
contractors
that
work
through
you
that
the
building
permits
been
closed,
because
this
requires
a
sign
to
be
posted
until
the
permits
closed
and
I'm
aware
of
situations
and
similar
to
what
my
colleague
has
said,
where
people
might
move
into
houses
and
live
there
for
quite
a
length
of
time
and
they're
still
open
permits
on
them?
Yes,.
B
And
what
we
do
to
ensure
there
are
mandatory
inspections
and
we
keep
record
of
every
time
we
call
for
an
inspection
and,
if
we've
passed
or
failed,
obviously
you
can't
go
on
to
the
next
stage.
If
you
haven't
passed.
The
previous
stage-
and
the
irony
here
is
mr.
chairman-
is
one
of
your
councillors.
One
of
your
colleagues
I
think
it
was
councillor.
B
Carmichael
grep
had
the
same
issue
where
she
moved
into
her
house
and,
seven
years
later,
they
were
asking
for
occupancy
that
the
permit
hadn't
been
closed
and
that
speaks
to
I
think
there's
a
number
of
issues
here.
I
think
the
renovation
industry
needs
to
do
a
better
job
of
calling
for
inspections,
and
the
city
needs
to
be
a
little
more
vigilant.
With
respect
to
closing
permits
again
I
think
it's
a
an
issue
that
all
sides
can
do
a
better
job
on.
A
B
Saying
is
mr.
chairman:
is
that
we
don't,
but
in
the
past
we
never
got
any
confirmation,
be
it
written
or
otherwise
that
the
inspection
was
closed
was
passed
now
with
this
system,
the
wheel
of
the
online
system
I
think
it's
great.
It
does
wonders
for
knowing
where
we
stand,
it's
great
for
our
clients,
because
for
many
renovators
their
payments
are
based
on
achieving
certain
milestones.
A
Sorry
I
was
still
my
question
was:
do
you
have
examples
or
no
of
where
you've
asked
for
final
inspections
and
there's
been
a
lengthy
delay
in
getting
someone
out
for
final
inspections
and
I?
Ask
that
in
all
due
respect,
because
I
constantly
hear
the
words
complaints
that
we're
slow
and
yet,
when
I
asked
staff
to
tell
me
what
their
response
time
is:
they're
pretty
quick.
If
they're
asked
to
come
out,
it
may
not
be
the
same
day
or
the
next
day,
but
they're
not
months
later.
A
B
Terms
of
getting
someone
out,
you
know
usually
it's
within
48
hours.
We
have
an
inspector
I
think
the
problem
lies
when
that
inspector
hasn't
made
the
necessary
and
sufficient
notes
to
close
the
file
in
terms
of
actually
getting
an
inspection.
That's
not
the
issue,
I
think,
generally,
the
city's
pretty
responsive
and
48
hours
later
we
have
our
final
inspection.
A
Okay-
and
the
second
point
that
you
were
making
earlier,
was
about
the
lengthy
time
that
it
takes
to
get
building
permits
through
the
committee
of
adjustment,
which
really
isn't
here
in
front
of
us,
but
my
experience
has
been
that
many
of
the
applications
that
come
into
the
wool
area
that
I
represent
I
think
might
call
the
council
Fillion.
People
are
entitled
to
build
without
having
to
go
for
variances
and
often
I'll,
see
like
some
coming
up.
Tomorrow,
they're
allowed
a
six-foot
SIA
chart
and
they're
asking
for
5.9
feet.
A
B
A
You
have
any
idea
of
how
many
are
trying
to
shall
we
say,
push
the
limits
by
a
little
bit
taller
a
little
bit
wider,
a
little
bit
higher
because
as
I
phrase
it
some
of
the
builders
seem
to
sit
on
the
roof
and
look
to
their
left
and
say
they
got
something
here
they
look
to
their
right.
They
look
this
way.
They
look
that
way.
They
package
it
up
and
then
say
well,
why
can't
I?
Have
it
all
and
it
might
have
been
for
the
reason
you're
say
was
hard
to
fit
out
agree.
B
A
E
E
E
But
you
know
when
residents
see
that
they're
frustrated
and
then
lastly,
I
think
something
that
bothers
me.
The
most
is
is
trucks
on
sidewalks
and
then
pedestrians
have
to
go
around
the
trucks
and
walk
onto
the
street
very
dangerous
and
not
appropriate.
But
I
have
seen
that
so
many
times
in
the
last
six
months.
I
can't
even
really
count
the
number
of
times
so
I
guess.
What
are
your
comments
on
the
trees
signs
and
the
you
know
the
destruction
to
the
street,
as
well
as
the
trucks
on
sidewalk?
Well.
B
Let's
take
them
one
at
a
time
with
respect
to
the
trees,
we
are
required
to
put
up
tree
protection
zone,
fences,
I,
believe
the
parks
and
urban
forestry
have
done
an
admirable
job
of
enforcing
the
tree
protection
guidelines
that
we
are
all
bound
by
I
know
in
one
of
my
projects.
I
had
to
actually
indent
my
foundation
to
accommodate
the
root
structure
of
a
neighbor's
tree,
so
I
think.
In
that
sense
the
the
department
does
a
pretty
good
job
of
protecting
the
trees.
Now
do
some
tree
protection
zone
fences
get
knocked
over
yes,
but
I.
B
It's
my
understanding
that
there
have
been
additional
members
of
compliance
and
enforcement
hired
by
parks
and
urban
forestry
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
in
compliance
with
tree
protections.
So
that's
why
I
would
have
to
say
with
respect
to
tree
protection
with
respect
to
signs
and
we
have
to
post
every
permit
that
we
obtain
from
the
city,
be
it
HVAC,
plumbing,
building
demolition.
There's
four
signs
right.
There,
then
the
Ministry
of
Labour
asked
us
to
post
certain
signs.
B
B
I
believe
they're
signed
by
laws
in
the
city
that
that
could
govern
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I
don't
find
that
it's
a
certainly
in
the
sites
I'm
familiar
with
councillor
I,
don't
find
it's
a
big
problem,
because
most
of
the
Lots
in
Toronto
are
pretty
small
they're
pretty
tight.
If
you
have
a
30-foot
law,
you're
lucky
so.
B
You
know
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
room
for
that
and,
yes,
nobody
likes
to
see
pickup
trucks
on
sidewalks,
that's
the
bane
of
our
existence
as
well.
It's
it's
it's
a
nuisance.
It's
a
problem!
The
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
give
neighbors
a
reason
to
be
upset,
and
that
is
upsetting,
particularly
when
you're
talking
about
you
know
someone
with
a
stroller
trying
to
get
through
or
someone
on
a
wheelchair
trying
to
get
through.
B
We
understand
that
the
only
thing
I
would
ask
in
that
regard
is
that
the
city
provides
some
kind
of
parking
concession
to
legitimate
contractors,
so
that's
not
the
be-all
and
end-all,
but
that
could
go
a
little
bit
of
a
way
in
terms
of
solving
what
the
parking
issues
are
on
the
street
to
us.
It's
it's
a
little
ridiculous
that
we
can't
park
on
streets
till
10
o'clock
in
the
morning,
because
if
your
contractor
said
oh
I
can't
come
to
your
job
site
till
10
o'clock
in
the
morning,
I
don't
think
you'd
be
happy.
B
E
A
A
Why
don't
you
both
come
up?
Because
your
friends
will
at
once
speak
then
the
other,
and
then
we
can
deliver
eat
this
no
problem
with
them.
Where's
Kathy
Kathy,
please
come
forward
and
then
Carolyn
you
may
as
well
come
up
as
well.
Cuz
I
think
you're
both
trying
to
address
us
and
similar
areas
and
we're
here
to
listen
to
you
so
Kathy,
please,
you
can
start
yeah.
F
F
We
look
forward
to
the
wider
implementation
of
ticketing,
because
we
think
this
is
a
really
effective
way
to
deal
quickly
with
problems.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
kind
of
outstanding
issues
that
relate
to
this
area,
one
about
these
waivers
for
zoning
reviews
that
seem
to
create
lots
of
problems.
The
committee
of
adjustment
and
we
needs
more
clarification
around
encroaching
on
neighbors
properties
for
new,
build
construction.
I
think
there
are
regulations
about
maintenance
of
existing
buildings,
but
this
appears
to
be
an
issue
for
some
of
our
members.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say
thank.
E
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
today.
I
know
you
do
a
great
job,
leading
the
charge
with
Fonterra,
I,
guess,
I,
guess
you're,
representing
err.
It
mostly
repairs
associations
in
Midtown,
Toronto
and
bit
north.
Yes,
the
North
Park,
which
all
of
mine
I
think
are
part
and
parcel
of
and
very
proud
members,
and
you
know
this.
Certainly
this
type
of
construction
can
be
very
disruptive
for
him
for
a
local
community.
E
Yes,
is
there
anything
outside
of
what
you've
seen
in
the
report
and
some
of
the
some
of
the
items
that
have
been
really
put
into
action
already,
which
is
terrific?
Is
there
anything
outside
of
this
that
you
would
like
to
comment
or
or
think
we
need
to
work
on
I
know,
dust
suppression
is
coming
the
end
of
this
term,
but
anything
else
that
you'd
like
us
to
look
at
well.
E
A
G
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee
I
represent
an
area
completely
different
from
Fonterra's.
G
Thank
you
where
I
live
downtown,
where
our
infill
is
a
completely
different
kind
of
scale.
From
what
this
whole
report
addresses
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
the
building
official
has
really
thought
about
the
impact
of
high
rise
infill.
This
is
on
King
Street
and
the
theater
district,
and
that's
a
residential
infill,
its
massive
it's
been
done
very
taste.
For
the
other
thing,
it's
an
excellent
example
of
what
can
be
done
nicely,
but
you
know
the
neighbors
again
may
learn
about
this
through
their
zoning
bylaw
process.
G
The
neighbors
never
really
find
out
much
more
about
when
the
projects
gonna
start
and
what
the
impacts
are
going
to
be
so
I
think
this
process
should
apply
to
all
kinds
of
infill
in
all
kinds
of
areas
where
it
affects
businesses
nearby
as
well.
A
further
issue
is
noise
or
from
construction
which
hasn't
been
addressed
so
far.
I
would
draw
your
attention
to
a
jefra
tent
number
17,
claire
riley,
who
spoke
at
the
last
licensing
and
standards
committee
agenda
about
the
terrible
impact
on
her
home
from
a
construction
project,
12
meters
from
her
windows.
G
Also,
residential
infill
is
happening
in
industrial
districts
and
the
impact
on
the
residents
from
things
like
railway
yards
maintenance,
yards
highways
is
also
an
issue
and
the
actual
building
standards
I
think
have
to
be
modified
to
make
sure
that
they
have
things
like
double
glazing
and
extra
installation
to
help
them
live
in
their
homes
once
they're
finished.
I.
G
G
The
proposed
changes
to
the
noise
bylaw
are
extremely
concerning
to
everybody
in
the
public,
and
especially
the
potential
removal
of
the
general
rohit
prohibition
on
annoying
anybody
within
earshot
by
making
a
noise
of
any
sort.
So
that's
very
key
because
that
helps
to
protect
residents
from
the
impacts
of
info
development
of
any
nature.
Thank
you.
A
G
G
A
very
good
point,
I
think
the
noise
by
law
is
also
attempted
to
do
with
vibration.
As
you
know,
high-rise
development
also
involves
low-rise
digging.
They
all
go
down
six,
seven,
eight
ten
floors
for
the
basement
parking,
and
that
involves
massive
pile
drivers,
creating
the
slurry
walls
and
then
the
excavation
by
the
trucks
and
the
machinery,
and
it's
in
terms
of
vibration.
It
can
be
monitored.
I
live
next
to
the
site
where
the
former
your
kyung-bae
gardener
ramp,
was
ramallah
shhhht
starting
last
spring.
Sorry.
A
Carolyn,
yes,
I
have
to
a
my
colleague,
councillor
Davis,
we're
not
dealing
with
large
high-rise
today,
we're
only
dealing
with
small
local
infill
and
I
allowed
miss
Johnston
to
to
speak
because
he
has
a
concern,
but
we'll
have
to
address
that
in
regards
to
that
type
of
development
separately
and
I.
Understand
that
and
would
like
your
input
in
the
way
we
may
be
able
to
bring
a
report
here
to
deal
with
that
as
well.
She's.
A
A
G
H
E
E
A
E
Okay,
so
has
any
any
action
been
taken
on,
addressing
builder
is
encroaching
on
to
the
neighboring
properties,
so
you've
done
a
lot
of
great
work
on
many
things,
but
when
they're
digging
foundations
off
often
that
can
be
very
disruptive
to
immediate
neighbors.
So
has
any
been
any
action
taken
on
that
to
date.
So.
C
So
through
the
chair
with
respect
to
that
issue,
where
the
building
code
does
speak
to
the
safety
issues
around
that
and
so
depending
on
the
depth
of
the
excavation
in
relationship
to
the
foundation
of
the
home
adjacent
to
it,
that
could
dictate
whether
or
not
shoring
would
need
to
be
in
place.
So
that's
one
requirement
that
would
be
invoked,
there's
no
other
than
that.
There's
no
other
mechanism
for
toronto
building
to
require
shoring.
C
E
Great,
thank
you
and
then
just
you
heard
me.
Maybe-
or
maybe
you
didn't
hear
me-
speak
to
the
doctor-
tent
about
sidewalks
and
roadways
being
so
sidewalks
trucks
parking
on
them
all
the
time,
I
see
it
witness
at
daily
and
then
roadways
being
damaged
by
the
developers
and
residents.
Seeing
that
and
feeling
frustrated
that
a
commercial
enterprises,
you
know
damaging
the
roadways.
So
what
do
you
have
in
place
for
that?
So.
C
E
C
The
chair
I
would
say
that
it
has
been
successful
throat,
so
we've
established
the
interdivisional
group,
where
all
of
the
divisions
are
coming
together.
A
lot
of
the
work
in
that
interdivisional
group
is
actually
to
raise
awareness
with
everyone
around
which
each
other's
issues
are
so
that
hopefully,
issues
can
be
addressed
sooner
part
of
the
exercise
going
with
the
interdivisional
group
was
actually
developing
a
strategy
in
order
to
manage
those
interdivisional
complaints.
So
we
can
manage
them
more
effectively
through
that
group.
C
We
did
the
targeted
enforcement
program
where
we
visited
about
617
sites
across
the
city,
and
that
was
an
inter
divisional
group
of
inspectors
that
went
to
each
of
the
sites
and
one
of
the
Xers
one
of
the
benefits
of
that
exercises.
Each
one
of
the
inspectors
became
aware
of
what
the
other
inspector
and
other
divisions
issues
are,
so
it
helps
to
raise
that
awareness,
so
hopefully,
issues
can
be
addressed
sooner.
Okay,.
E
C
I
would
say
up
until
this
strategy.
The
primary
mechanism
to
deal
with
non-compliance
through
Toronto
building
was
through
orders
which,
as
I
indicated
earlier,
are
enforced
through
the
court.
So
we
started
piloting
the
use
of
tickets,
where
we're
not
getting
compliance.
Those
tickets
generally
I
would
say,
generate
a
fine
of
about
$500
per
offense.
The
ticket
can
be
issued
to
the
Builder
or
anyone
on
the
site
who's
guilty
of
our
doing
the
contravention
of
the
bylaw.
C
What
I
can
tell
you
is
we
did
test
that
out
on
some
of
our
issues
and
generally,
what
we
found
is
that,
when
we
issued
orders
about
50%
of
the
orders
that
we
issued
resulted
in
compliance
when
we
didn't
get
compliance
on
the
remainder
we
issued
tickets
and
it
was
about
78%
of
them-
responded
to
the
ticket.
Okay,.
H
Wanted
to
understand
I've
been
told
that
a
building
permit
has
to
be
issued.
That's
the
building
code,
whether
or
not
the
circulation
and
responses
from
right-of-way
or
or
forestry
have
been
received,
and
there
have
been
several
situations
where
a
city
tree
was
right
in
front
of
where
a
proposed
driveway
was
going
to
be
and
a
hydro
pole,
both
of
which
needed
subsequent
permissions
that
they
didn't
get
and
demolition
went
ahead
anyway.
How
do
we
deal
with
those
conflicting.
C
Threw
the
chair
through
the
building
code,
act
where
we
have
a
complete
application?
Our
obligation
is
to
respond
and
issue
the
permit
within
10
days,
as
far
as
as
long
as
the
issues
have
been
resolved
when
it
comes
to
tree
protection
issues
that
you're
speaking
to
is
when
the
application
comes
in,
the
application
is
circulated
to
urban
forestry
and
they're
responsible
for
administering
those
requirements.
Right.
C
H
C
H
C
The
chair,
normally
with
grading,
how
that's
handled
is
there
is
a
grading
consultant.
We
require
confirmation
from
the
grading
consultant
at
the
end
to
verify
that
the
grades
aren't
having
an
adverse
effect
on
the
neighboring
properties
and
I
would
say,
generally
speaking,
that
works
okay.
There
are
unique
circumstances
where
we
may
have
issues
with
a
property
and
when
we
and
with
that
grading
certificate
and
in
those
cases
we
would
engage
with
Toronto
water
or
engineering
and
construction
services
for
help
in
reviewing
that
specific
file.
I.
H
C
Through
the
chair
with
respect
to
infill,
no
I
believe
the
deputy
was
speaking
about
our
vibration
control
requirements,
those
apply
to
the
larger
construction
sites,
they
don't
want
apply
to
infill
sites,
as
defined
in
this
project.
So
an
infill
site,
as
defined
by
this
project,
is
the
demolition
of
an
existing
single-family
home,
replaced
with
another
single-family
home
semi
or
triplex.
A
I
Thank
you,
mister
chair
through
you,
mr.
johnson,
I've,
in
regard
to
the
in
regard
to
the
pre-construction
meeting
mr.
johnson,
I'm
over
here,
hello.
In
regard
to
the
pre-construction
meeting,
I
had
an
instance
there
is
there
a
follow-up?
Is
there
anything
in
writing
as
a
follow-up
to
that
meeting?
That's
required.
I
I
There
was
nothing
in
writing
and
the
construction
went
ahead
without
the
approval
of
the
owner
and
nothing
was
ever
sent
back
to
the
owner
about
the
extra
six
meters
and
he
was
expected
to
incur
the
cost
now
subsequent
to
that,
I
think
it's
worked
out,
but
I
know
that
the
the
whole
purpose
of
the
pre-construction
meeting
was
to
avoid
situations
like
that
and
is
so
is
anything
in
writing.
Is
there
a
formal
process
for
advising
the
owner
of
changes
or
what
was
discussed
at
those
meetings
through.
C
I
C
The
chair,
that
is
a
difficult
and
I,
would
say,
challenging
situation
to
deal
with
the
unfortunate
part
there
is
that
the
building
code
Act
sets
out
the
requirements
around
permitting
and
construction
and
when
a
permit
expires.
So
just
to
summarize
it
when
a
permits
issued,
the
Builder
has
six
months
to
actually
initiate
that
construction.
Once
they
start
the
construction,
if
they
stop
the
work
for
more
than
a
year,
the
permit
lapses,
and
then
one
and
then
what
does
that
mean?
And
so
what
that
means
is
the
chief
building
official?
C
Has
the
authority
to
revoke
or
suspend
the
permit
one
of
the
challenges
around?
That
is,
then,
you
end
up
with
in
a
situation
where
you
have
a
host
partially
constructed,
and
now
you
have
to
have
that
house
removed
the
strategy
we
use
to
deal
with.
That
is
try
and
work
with
the
Builder
to
order
order
to
help
them
along
so
that
they
can
start
addressing
the
issues
and
keep
the
construction
moving.
We
try
and
prioritize
the
issues
and
typically
I
would
say
in
most
neighborhoods
where
there
is
a
stalled
construction.
C
I
I
C
D
D
D
D
C
D
D
Applicable
law
is
there
a
way
that
you
could
think
of
to
make
the
requirements
of
other
departments
applicable
laws
so
that
you
don't,
for
example,
have
a
builder
coming
in
to
the
building
department
demanding
their
building
permit
when
they
have
not
met
the
requirements
of
some
of
the
other
departments,
such
as
paying
fees
to
the
transportation
department.
I
know
you're
required
to
issue
a
building
permit.
If
something
isn't
applicable
law
and
those
things
aren't
applicable
law.
Is
there
a
way
to
fix
that
problem
through.
C
D
Okay
on
construction,
dust
and
I'm,
referring
mainly
to
the
somebody
cutting
blocks.
You
know:
construction
yeah,
where
you
have
this
huge
cloud
of
dust
blowing
over
onto
the
into
the
lungs
of
the
neighborhood,
kids
or
whatever.
Is
that
the
but
regulates
that
or
what
could
bring
that
under
some
control?
Would
that
be
the
building
code
or
does
the
city
have
some
tool
there
through.
A
D
D
Where
people
go
down
so
far
that
they
they
hit
a
lot
of
water
so
either
they
it's
just
because
they're
building
the
the
basements
deeper
or
they're
on
sites
that
you
know
where
there
used
to
be
a
creek
running,
or
something
like
that.
So
we
have
instances
where
you
have
some
pumps
literally
going
24/7
all
year
and
then
feeding
out
on
to
Oh
past
the
lawn
over
the
sidewalks
and
in
winter
you
have
those
areas
freezing
up.
How
could
we,
or
should
we
be
regulating
that
three
three
mister
chair?
It
is
regulated
already.
H
D
H
The
one
that
there's
enough
capacity
in
that
sewer
to
accept
that
additional
flow,
as
well
as
the
quality
of
the
water,
meets
certain
parameters.
Worst-Case
scenario:
if
it
is
a
serious
health
concern
or
public
risk
concern,
and
we
can't
go
to
storm
sewer,
we
do
have
an
application
process
where
it
could
go
into
the
sanitary
sewer,
there's
an
additional
charge
for
that,
and
our
preference
is
not
to
do
that
not
to
take
ground
water
and
put
it
into
sanitary
sewers,
as
it
reduces
the
capacity
that
we
have
for
sewage.
H
A
Group
of
various
staff
from
trial
water
city
planning,
MLS
engineering,
construction
services,
looking
at
some
of
the
issues
around
stormwater
management
and
discharges,
and
will
be
reporting
through
to
committee
in
2019
on
some
recommendations
and
findings
in
regards
to
those
issues.
So
there
is
more
work
to
be
done
on
that
matter,
because
we
do
recognize.
H
D
A
So
briefly,
mr.
Johnston
I
had
looking
earlier
for
some
response
to
closing
of
permits
and
the
reason
I
asked
that
is
I'm
concerned
that
there
are
homes
that
might
be
renovated
and
they
might
be
private
renovations
or
some
person
buys
a
house
and
hires
contractors.
Then
they
purport
to
live
or
live
in
the
house
for
a
year
and
then
flip
it.
A
But
I
find
on
occasions
that
the
permits
aren't
closed
and
if
I'm
correct
the
lawyers
and
we'll
be
relying
on
title
insurance
in
some
cases
to
have
to
deal
with
it.
So
how
can
we
be
sure
that
a
permit
is
closed
or,
if
is
outstanding,
issues
if
they're
being
dealt
with
and
try
to
be
sure
that
we
don't
get
these
flips
of
homes
with
outstanding
permits
on
them
through.
C
The
chair
part
of
our
strategy,
dealing
with
dormant
permits,
is
we've
developed
some
strategies
around
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
one
is
going
back
looking
at
historical
permis
to
make
sure
they
are
closed
and
we've
sort
of
prioritized
them
and
that
works
underway,
and
that
was
part
of
the
40,000
permits
that
was
closed
by
the
dedicated
group.
So
that's
one
exercise,
the
other
is
part
of
our
strategy
is
doing
what
we
can
to
make
sure
that
property
owners
are
aware
of
the
requirements
to
close
their
permits
upfront.
C
So
we
do
that
through
the
introductory
inspection.
We
do
that
through
the
permit
issuance,
we
also
said,
are
in
the
process
of
setting
something
up
that,
once
the
permit
is
closed,
that
an
automatic
email
would
go
to
the
property
owner
to
give
something
to
them.
In
writing.
To
confirm
that
the
permit
has
been
closed.
Those
are
the
things
that
we've
done
or
we're
doing
as
part
of
the
strategy.
C
One
is
I
guess.
If
Realtors
and
lawyers
understood
the
importance
or
where
they
can
write
into
the
city
and
request
a
compliance
letter,
we
would
give
a
list
of
whatever
outstanding
orders
are
orders
or
permits
that
are
not
closed.
We
would
notify
the
property
owner
of
that
if
they
made
that
request.
Oh.
A
Simple
question:
a
home
is
renovated
someone
lives
in
it,
someone
sells
it,
they
don't
have
to
have
the
permits
closed
when
they
sell
it.
The
real
estate
agent
can
list
it
and
the
lawyer
will
deal
with
it
through
title
insurance.
That
is
correct.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
now
come
to
a
point
of
speakers.
Yes,.
E
Thank
you
mr.
chair
I'll,
be
brief,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
Ron,
Oh,
building
and
all
the
city
staff,
quite
frankly
across
the
multiple
divisions
who
have
contributed
to
this
really
improved
service,
and
to
this
report,
particularly
I'd
like
to
highlight
the
contributions
of
will
Johnson
and
welcome
to
his
new
role.
I
know.
A
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
this
by
many
people
across
the
divisions.
So
without
a
doubt,
this
is
an
ongoing
issue
in
our
in
our
in
our
communities.
E
This
large-scale
interdivisional
review,
culminating
in
the
report
that's
before
us
today
and
as
we'll
alluded
to
now,
we're
being
more
proactive
versus
reactive,
we're
streamlining
enforcement-
and
this
is
all
of
this
as
good
news
what's
before
us
today-
is
that
we
need
to
deal
with
these
hoarding
boards
on
construction
sites
and
having
that
key
information
accessible
to
residents,
whether
it's
related
to
tree
protection,
parking
permissions,
people
want
to
know
what's
going
on
and
be
informed
and
communication
is,
is
key
to
that.
So
I
do
hope.
Committee
will
support
the
recommendations
before
you
I
think.
E
That
setbacks
are
here
too
height
locations
footprints.
All
of
that
will
be
dealt
with
as
part
of
this.
These
new
regulations
were
putting
in
place
and
then,
lastly,
again
just
breaking
down
those
barriers,
this
interdivisional
working
group,
I,
can't
say
enough
about
it.
It's
very
exciting,
very
happy
to
see
this.
E
So
I
just
want
to
again
thank
all
the
people
that
have
been
part
of
this
process,
streamlining
the
review
process
by
eliminating
duplication,
and
it's
really
great
to
see
how
far
we've
come
in
in
this
this
administration,
these
four
years,
I
look
forward
to
the
next
report.
Also
a
really
reflection
of
concerns
from
my
ward
on
the
dust,
suppression
and
I
hope
to
see
that
this
term
I
understand.
We
will
see
that
this
term
and
I'll
look
forward
to
seeing
that
report
come
to
fruition.
Thank
You
mr.
chair.
H
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
this
work
I.
Do
wonder
why
this
does
not
apply
to
high-rise
in
filth
and
I
gather?
There
are
provisions
in
the
building
code
that
apply
more
specifically
to
high-rise
buildings.
I,
don't
understand
that
and
so
I'm
going
to
come
and
ask
specifically-
and
we
have
a
noise
and
vibration
complaint
just
this
morning
at
a
site,
so
I'll
specifically
be
dealing
with
that
or
dealing
with
that
specific
situation
with
the
department
today.
Thank
you.
D
You
I
have
three
motions
that
the
general
manager,
transportation
services
and
the
chief
building
official
executive
director
Toronto
building.
We
requested
to
report
directly
to
Council
on
a
plan
to
remove
the
legally
placed
signage
on
construction
hoarding
and
to
collect
the
appropriate
fees
where
the
payment
of
such
fees
would
be
required.
D
That
City
Council
request
the
general
manager,
parts,
forestry
and
Recreation
to
report
quarterly
to
the
parks
and
Environment
Committee
on
the
number
of
tickets
issued
and
charges
later
laid
against
builders
for
failure
to
protect
city
trees
that
the
chief
building,
official
and
executive
director
Toronto
building.
We
requested
to
report
directly
to
Council
on
changes
to
chapter
three
sixty
three
of
the
Toronto
Municipal
Code
to
require
tree
protection,
fencing
to
be
structurally
secured,
so
the
cannot
be
easily
removed.
D
I
probably
could
have
made
another
10
motions,
I
guess
there
are
about
a
there
right,
five
or
six
words
in
the
city
that
just
have
an
insane
amount
of
new
home
construction.
I
know,
certainly
counsel
Robinson
and
counsel
shiner
and
myself
and
and
a
few
others,
and
so
to
give
credit
where
credit
is
due.
D
I
will
say
that
the
city's
dealing
with
the
completely
irresponsible
Builders
has
greatly
improved
over
the
last
year,
or
so
so
it
went
from
just
incredibly
awful
to
and
denial
that
there
was
even
a
problem
to
dealing
with
the
problem
to
various
levels
of
effectiveness.
So
certainly
the
the
building
department,
I
think,
was
the
first
to
get
on
board
to
recognize
that
there
was
a
problem
and
I
thank
mr.
D
And
if
we
showed
we
were
serious
about
that,
then
you
wouldn't
you
know,
then
we
wouldn't
need
so
much
enforcement,
but
by
by
my
reckoning
the
city
is
losing
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
North,
York
alone,
by
lack
of
payment
of
fees
to
the
transportation
department
and
I've
been
trying
to
get
this
dealt
with
for
years
to
the
point
of
being
obnoxious
about
it
and
it
still
hasn't
been
addressed,
and
likewise
with
tree
protection.
It's
it's
improved,
but
we're
not
anywhere
near
where
we
need
to
be
so.
D
A
A
And
to
identify
the
number
of
tickets
issued
a
second
one
that
I
have
in
his
regards
to
the
signs,
because
we
might
be
able
to
actually
review
the
bylaws
and
bring
up
some
recommendations.
I'll
speak
to
them
all
and
the
third
one
is
regards
to
parking
of
construction
vehicles
and
then
I'll
speak
to
them
and
there's
questions
you
can
all
bring
them
forward.
Firstly,
I
really
wanted
to
thank
mr.
A
Johnston
and
his
crew,
because
my
colleagues
have
asked
for
reports
in
the
past
and
they
really
didn't
come
up
we're
supposed
to
have
a
report
back
in
2015,
so
mr.
Johnson
I
sat
down
in
16
and
tried
to
analyze
all
the
concerns
that
members
of
council
have
and
have
tried
to
work
since
then
to
bring
forward
recommendations
that
would
help
resolve
the
problem.
A
This
is
staff
report,
not
my
report
and
I
think
they
have
done
an
absolutely
phenomenal
job
of
leading
the
way
for
municipalities
to
be
able
to
show
that
we're
trying
to
deal
with
the
problems
that
neighbors
experience
on
renovations
and
info
housing.
I,
don't
know
of
any
other
municipality.
That
is
this
far
out
in
front
of
it.
Doing
such
a
great
job
with
pamphlets
for
sure
signs,
information,
online,
I
think
it's
phenomenal.
Is
it
perfect?
No
can
we
continue
to
improve
it
absolutely
and
every
time
that
someone
comes
forward
and
brings
a
concern
to
us?
A
That's
an
opportunity
to
do
better,
so
I
am
moving
the
recommendations
within
the
report
and
the
speaking
to
the
three
motions
that
I
have
here.
The
first
one
dealing
with
permits
being
closed
is
because
people
are
selling
houses
with
open
permits.
There
are
those
renovators
that
aren't
all
professionals,
people
that
buy
a
house
that
renovate
a
house
it's
their
living.
Then
they
move
into
the
house.
They
try
and
stay
in
the
house
for
a
year
or
claim
they've
been
in
the
house
for
a
year
and
sell
it.
A
So
the
house
then,
is
sold
as
a
private
sale,
no
gst/hst
on
top
of
the
house,
no
guarantees
on
top
of
the
house,
and
then
the
new
person
may
move
in
and
there's
outstanding
permits
and
far
too
often
now
many
in
the
legal
business
are
not
doing
their
due
diligence
and
checking
for
these
things
in
advance,
because
I've
asked
and
they
rely
on
title
insurance.
Well,
the
more
claims,
the
more
costly
cost
us
all.
A
That's
not
a
way
to
do
business,
both
in
the
real
estate
business
and
the
legal
trade,
have
a
responsibilities
and
obligations
as
professionals
and
I,
don't
think
they
should
be
selling
houses
with
open
permits
outstanding
on
them,
they've
been
renovations
tickets
and
how
many
tickets
are
issued,
which
is
also
part
of
that
motion.
I.
Think
is
a
good
thing
to
find
out
in
the
future
and
come
back
to
us.
So
we'll
know
the
success,
the
signs
and
the
signage
on
the
site.
A
I
think
our
sign
is
great,
but
my
understanding
is
you
can
actually
do
a
five
square
meter
sign
on
a
building
site
and
is
legal.
That's
huge,
so
I
think
that
the
question
of
what
the
site
looks
like
not
just
the
fencing
and
the
cleanliness,
but
the
signage
on
is
something
that's
important
and
staff
are
reviewing
the
sign
bylaw,
so
I
felt
when
they
come
back
with
those
changes
here
next
year.
A
It
will
be
an
opportunity
to
look
at
what
happens
at
I,
didn't
feel
site
and
bring
a
little
more
control
to
it
if
Council
so
wishes,
and
the
third
part
was
parking.
You
have
an
issue
where
you
may
go
to
areas
and
trades,
don't
Park
properly,
as
I've
heard,
they're
up
on
sidewalks
they're
not
parking
properly,
they
leave
their
trucks
everywhere
and
there
are
other
ones
that
want
to
come
and
do
a
home
renovation
and
want
to
park
somewhere.
A
But
if
they
park
for
more
than
an
hour
or
two
hours
or
three
hours,
they
end
up
with
a
fine.
They
don't
even
realize
that
they
might
be
able
to
call
transportation
services
or
others
where
the
parking
may
not
work,
but
they
still
have
to
leave
their
vehicle
somewhere.
These
are
people
that
are
just
working
to
do
a
job,
and
some
of
them
are
good
people
that
want
to
go
into
a
house
and
end
up
facing
these
expenses.
A
When
I
think
we
could
do
a
better
job,
helping
them
find
ways
to
park,
that's
acceptable
and
not
disruptive
to
the
community,
and
then,
if
they
don't
do
it
properly,
then
we
can
enforce
all
the
rules
that
are
in
place,
but
I.
Think
working
together
is
a
better
way
to
deal
with
us
at
first
and
find
those
that
might
be
there
and,
as
I've
said
even
home
renovators.
A
D
A
So
filling
this
is
not
meant
to
be
in
any
way
to
take
away
from
any
motions
when
the
issue
was
brought
up
and
during
the
discussion
over
here
I
had
the
interim
deputy
city
manager
speak
to
the
sign
staff,
who
said
we're
actually
doing
a
review
of
signage
for
next
year.
We
could
look
at
these
things
and
bring
ways
that
we
might
be
able
to
improve
it.
So
that
was
the
reason
for
the
motion.
The
staff
drive.
D
D
A
A
A
K
A
You
and
thank
you
again
to
my
colleagues
to
the
deputies
and
the
patience
of
the
rest
of
the
people
that
are
here
for
the
tío
core
issue.
Okay,
so
members
of
committee,
we
finished
item
number.
One
item
number
two
is
just
circulated
today,
am
I
mister
planning
acting
province
to
land
use,
planning
appeal
system,
which
we
should
get
a
presentation
on,
but
it's
not
a
timed
item.
Item
number
four
is
a
timed
item
and
we
have
some
speakers
on
five:
six,
seven
and
eight,
as
one
of
them
carries
who
those.
A
A
L
L
H
H
H
H
L
L
Your
indulgence,
while
we
give
you
an
overview
of
teo
core
with
me
today,
is
Amory
Nasser
in
Andrew
Frank
ohm,
who
have
been
among
others
across
our
division
and
many
other
divisions
working
on
this
for
the
last
upwards
of
close
to
four
years,
I
would
say
so.
This
is
a
culminating
event.
As
they
say
at
school,
we
we're
going
to
be
presenting.
A
To
interrupt
you,
because
legal
has
given
clerk
three
lines
that
I
have
to
read
before
we
start
planning
a
growth,
Committee
is
holding
a
statutory
public
meeting
in
the
coordinates
with
section
26
to
the
Planning
Act
for
item
PG.
Twenty
nine
point:
forty
oak
or
downtown
official
plan
amendment
Oh
statutory
special
public
meeting,
so
your
first
big
presentation
is
very
special
to
us
and
I've
read
this
out
and
made
the
clerk
happy
sorry
for
interrupting
it.
Thank.
L
You
it's
so
special
to
me
the
the
matter
before
you
is
steel
core.
It
is,
as
you
just
indicated,
an
amendment
to
the
official
plan
that
brings
forward
a
comprehensive
and
integrated
planning
framework
for
the
city
of
Toronto's
downtown
for
the
next
25
years.
The
plan
the
OPA,
includes
amendments
to
the
main
part
of
the
plan
section
two
to
one
and
map
six
of
the
Official
Plan.
It
includes
the
addition
of
a
new
downtown
plan
and
it
includes
certain
deletions
to
the
enforced
planning
framework.
L
As
many
of
you
know,
there
are
existing
secondary
plans
and
many
siting
area.
Specific
policies
cover
within
the
downtown
a
planning
area
that
are
affected.
This
Opa
is
part
of
the
city's
five-year
official
plan
review
and
is
a
component
of
the
work
program
to
bring
our
official
plan
into
conformity
with
the
growth
plan
for
the
Greater
Golden
Horseshoe,
which
was
adopted
by
the
province
in
2017.
L
Accordingly,
we're
recommending,
as
you
noted
chair,
that
the
OPA
will
be
submitted
to
the
minister
of
municipal
affairs
for
approval
pursuant
to
section
26
of
the
Planning
Act,
we've
been
here
a
couple
of
times
through
the
course
of
the
process
and
have
identified
the
the
geography.
Many
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
geography.
Really,
the
plan
is
providing
a
blueprint
to
manage
the
growth
for
the
next
25
years.
We
have
enjoyed
great
livability,
as
the
city's
downtown
has
grown
in
the
last
25
years.
L
We
want
to
maintain
that
livability
through
the
lens
of
complete
communities,
ensuring
that
there
is
space
really
for
the
economy
to
grow
and
people
to
continue
to
enjoy
living
downtown
and
want
to
live
downtown.
The
role
of
the
downtown
has
often
been
identified,
as
the
big
reason
why
this
is
important.
The
downtown
is
the
most
accessible
employment
center
in
the
entire
region.
One
of
three
jobs
exist
downtown.
It
contributes
heavily
to
our
tax
base.
L
It
is
small
but
mighty
and
in
terms
of
its
overall
geography
at
3%
of
the
city's
land
area,
significantly
we're
projecting
growth
in
the
next
25
year
period
out
to
2040
1,
going
from
existing
about
a
half
a
million
jobs
today
to
upwards
of
850
to
900
and
fifty
thousand
jobs
in
that
planning
period,
and
also
the
potential
to
double
the
population.
From
about
240,000
to
close
to
500,000
people
in
that
planning
period.
L
The
the
public
release
of
the
documents
is
tracked
in
this
slide
in
terms
of
the
date
and
the
timelines,
the
various
strategies
that
we've
brought
forward
so
putting
it
all
together.
The
the
amendments
that
are
before
you,
the
2.21
changes
to
the
actual
text
of
the
main
plan,
plus
the
addition
of
a
secondary
plan
that
really
tie
together
the
the
the
secondary
plans
and
these
scenarios
specific
policies.
L
All
of
this
has
been
updated
to
in
recognition
of
the
fact
that
this
is
the
region's
one
of
the
region's
most
significant,
if
not
the
most
significant
urban
growth
center.
In
the
context
of
the
growth
plan,
we
have,
in
this
work,
delineated
a
new
Health
Sciences
District,
an
expanded
financial
district
and
strengthen
policies
across
a
range
of
policy
areas.
L
Firstly,
the
big
picture
around
growth
and
infrastructure
infrastructure
to
support
complete
communities
is
not
keeping
pace
with
growth,
and
the
big
move
here
is
to
address
this
head-on
in
the
policy
framework
that
we're
recommending
to
include
a
what
we're
calling
a
complete
community
assessment
in
the
in
the
submission
of
development
applications
and
to
tie
that
assessment
to
it
to
an
understanding
of
how
we're
doing
with
our
progress
in
providing
downtown
infrastructure
through
our
infrastructure
strategies.
The
five
strategies
that
that
I
will
go
through
in
a
moment.
L
This
assessment,
then,
will
ensure
that
we
are
linked
our
consideration
of
that
physical
change
with
the
social
in
physical
and
social
infrastructure
that
is
needed
to
support
the
growth.
Another
main
theme
of
the
plan
is
balancing
non
residential
and
residential
growth.
The
downtown,
as
everyone
knows,
is
about
as
diverse
as
you
can
get
both
at
the
Downtown
scale
and
also
by
block.
So
it's
important
to
maintain
the
balance
that
we've
struck
over
the
years
as
a
both
a
place
living
in
a
place
of
work.
L
The
increasingly
though
the
office
and
institutional
sectors
and
and
those
areas
have
been
under
pressure,
all
sites
in
downtown
tend
to
be
tend
to
be
getting
a
lot
of
interest
for
residential
development.
So
we've
taken
a
policy
approach
to
expand
the
financial
district
to
secure
and
prioritize
non-residential
uses
in
that
area.
L
Similarly,
with
the
Health
Sciences
District
the
bay
bleuer
corridor
office
corridor
and
sustaining
what
has
been
celebrated
in
King,
Spadina
and
King
Parliament,
which
is
the
growth
of
our
cultural
sector
sector
and
our
creative
industry
that
is
focused
in
those
areas,
this
map
just
gives
you
the
geography
of
the
areas
that
I
just
mentioned
throughout
the
throughout
the
downtown
another.
Another
area
that
I
just
talked
about
is
is
the
the
notion
of
growing
of
the
residential
and
office
development.
That's
happening
and
it's
happening
in
different
physical
at
different
physical
scales.
L
So
what
we
found
through
the
course
of
the
of
the
analysis
and
the
stakeholder
engagement
is
that
we
needed
to
refine
the
mixed
use
area
designation.
That's
in
the
plan
that
we've
commonly
used
throughout
the
city
to
fine
tune
it
to
the
actual
character
and
the
scale
that
occurs
across
the
different
neighborhoods
of
the
downtown.
It
is
not
one
place
downtown.
It
is
many
places
in
as
many
neighborhoods
and
people
experience
the
downtown
in
different
ways.
L
So
what
we
had
introduced
here
are
different
scales
of
mixed-use
growth
that
really
respond
to
the
context
more
more,
precisely
and
appropriately,
and
recognize
that
certainly,
we've
got
tall
tower
neighborhoods,
but
we've
also
got
places
like
Kensington,
Market
and
places
in
between.
So
we
want
to
recognize
that
going
forward
as
the
city
as
a
downtown
grows.
The
policy
frameworks
that
are
being
introduced
for
parks
and
public
realm
just
briefly
respond
to
the
fact
that
there
has
always
been
increasing
demand
for
parks
and
an
exemplary
public
realm.
L
We
have
done
a
lot
of
work,
but
this
plan
brings
a
policy
framework
that
knits
it
together
provides
a
structure
for
acquiring
new
parkland
and
expanding
existing
parks
and
connecting
those
parks
through
through
a
public.
Realm
includes
a
policy
for
a
new
alternative
rate
for
parkland
dedication,
prioritizes
on-site
dedication
and
introduces
the
the
the
notion
of
a
strategy
that
I'll
speak
about
in
a
moment.
Mobility
policies,
basically
at
the
downtown
scale,
recognize
that
we're
not
growing
road
space.
L
It's
a
fixed,
it's
a
fixed
asset,
we're
not
we're
not
growing,
building
new
roads,
but
we
have
to
use
that
road
space
more
smartly
to
accommodate
moving
people.
That
should
be
the
metric
that
we've
identified
going
forward
as
a
way
to
judge
how
well
we're
using
that
road
space
and
and
Bill
it.
Based
on
that
philosophy.
Bringing
forward
a
policy
framework
that
prioritizes
active
transportation
and
transit
builds
on
the
fact
that
most
people
are
moving
around
downtown
on
foot
or
on
bike
or
moving
around
or
by
transit.
L
The
policy
suite
suite
introductions
around
building
for
livability
are
about
understanding
that,
as
the
downtown
gets
taller,
we
need
to
ensure
that
development
will
be
shaped
and
scaled
and
designed
to
me
and
enhanced
livability,
so
focus
here
on
sunlight
on
public
space,
on
schoolyards,
expanding
the
public,
realm
and
refined
policies
on
how
different
scales
of
development
transition
between
themselves,
housing.
The
the
downtown
as
we've
studied
and
as
we've
experienced
in
the
last
10
to
15
years,
is
becoming
home
to
new
vertical
communities.
L
So
housing
that
meets
the
needs
of
diverse
communities
is,
is
really
the
orientation
of
the
policy
changes
that
we've
got
in
front
of
you
establishing
an
ad
unit
threshold
to
require
larger
units,
which
is
a
practice
that
we've
been
implementing
through
development
applications
and
including
policies
for
the
replacement
of
dwelling
rooms
where
we
have
a
threat,
understanding
of
losing
a
vital
part
of
our
housing
stock
that
occurs
through
dwelling
rooms
that
exists
in
the
downtown.
The
the
in
the
course
of
the
work
that
we've
been
undertaking.
L
The
the
event
of
inclusionary
zoning
has
come
forward
and
we'll
be
dealing
with
the
housing
that
housing
tool,
not
specifically
in
the
downtown,
but
as
a
citywide
for
community
services
and
facilities.
The
issue
has
been
obviously
building
complete
communities
and
ensuring
that,
as
we
grow
the
population,
we
actually
grow
the
infrastructure
for
community
services
and
facilities,
the
policies
around
the
timely
provision
of
Human
Services
facilities,
including
childcare,
recreation,
libraries,
schools
and
other
human
services
fostering
culture.
The
the
growth
that
we've
been
experiencing
actually
puts
pressure
on
the
affordability
of
this
kind
of
space.
L
So
the
policy
framework
that
we
have
introduced
encourages
retention
and
expansion
of
space
for
culture
sector
employment,
supports
the
retention
of
long
live
music
venues
along
with
the
noise
attenuation
requirements
and
identifies
new
film,
given
the
downtown's
use
as
a
film
precinct
identifies
a
new
downtown
film,
loosing
energy,
resilience
and
water
point
of
view.
Obviously,
climate
change
is
playing
out
significantly
in
the
way
that
we
experience
life,
extreme
weather
and
a
constrained
electrical
supply.
So
the
plan
includes
integration,
more
full
and
fully
integrated
consideration
of
various
green
initiatives.
L
Supporting
the
expansion
of
thermal
energy
networks,
backup
power
and
the
expansion
of
water
related
infrastructure,
making,
it
all
happen,
the
tools
providing
a
number
of
tools
to
ensure
the
implementation
of
the
plan
policies
requiring
development
to
be
closely
integrated
with
the
delivery
of
required
infrastructure
and
using
the
increased
use
of
holding
provisions
for
development
until
conditions
are
met,
and
that
is
assisted
by
the
assisted
by
the
complete
complete
community
assessment
that
is
being
undertaken.
So
I'm
not
going
to
given
the
time
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
detail
on
the
five
infrastructure
strategies.
L
I
can
come
back
to
that
at
a
later
time.
Suffice
to
say
that
the
the
plan
includes
supportive
and
there
are
separate
reports
on
the
agenda.
Five
infrastructure
strategies
that
deal
with
the
actual
downtown
parts
and
public
realm
plan,
the
downtown
community
services
and
facilities
strategy,
a
mobility
strategy,
an
energy
strategy
and
a
water
strategy.
I
can
come
back
to
those
we've
got
more
questions
later
on
and
I
just
want
to
summarize
by
indicating
what
we've
recommended
in
the
report.
L
Coming
back
to
you,
with
the
exact
details
on
alternative
rate,
approval
of
the
implementation
strategies
for
parks
and
public
realm,
and
the
community
services
and
facilities
strategy
of
the
5a
Street
typology
recommendations
for
a
street
typology
study
in
transit
area
study
that
will
identify
other
opportunities,
retail
priority
streets.
Zoning
update,
that
is
before
you
and
more
work
in
specific
areas
around
built
form
public
Rome,
inherited
studies,
also,
ultimately,
a
rationalized
planning
framework
that
deals
with
amendments
to
existing
secondary
plans
and
site
area.
L
A
We're
probably
looking
at
well,
we
are
looking
at
coming
back
in
the
afternoon,
so
I
hope
my
colleagues
are
available
because
we'll
be
going
through
quite
a
number.
If
I
could
ask
when
you
come
up,
you
have
five
minutes
to
speak
everyone's
entitled
to
that.
We're
not
changing
the
time.
If
you
can
stay
on
the
issues
that
you
have
with
the
plan,
so
we
can
understand
your
concern.
That
would
be
great
if
someone
said
it
before
and
you
want
to
just
say
they
were
great
and
shorten
your
speech.
That's
also
very
much
appreciated.
A
That
gives
us
a
time
to
get
on
and
get
everybody's
concerns,
hopefully
addressed
within
the
time
that
we
have
before
we
lose
members
this
afternoon.
So
I'll
start
with
round
start
with
PG
29.4,
and
there
are
some
people
that
wanted
to
speak
to
number
five,
six,
seven,
eight
and
nine.
So
if
they
wish
to
speak
to
them
at
the
same
time,
that'll
be
great
if
they
do
wish
to
speak
to
them
separately,
they
are
entitled
to
do
so,
but
I'll
bring
that
to
our
attention
when
they
come.
The
first
speaker,
I
have
is
Ozma
Moloch.
A
M
Right
well,
thank
you
very
much
to
the
members
of
the
planning
and
growth
management
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
My
name
is
Asma
Malek
and
I'm.
Currently,
the
trustee
for
Toronto
District,
School,
Board,
TDSB,
Ward,
10,
Trinity
Spadina,
which
covers
City,
Ward,
19
and
20,
and
as
of
this
morning,
I'm
now
a
City
Council
candidate
for
the
new
Ward
20
as
well,
and
our
city
is
growing
fast
and
so
much
of
that
growth
is
happening
in
the
downtown
core.
M
M
Ensuring
our
city
is
keeping
pace
with
growth
and
that
development
works
for
everyone
and
I'm
here
today
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
tío
core
plan
and
to
personally
deliver
hundreds
of
letters
signed
by
Torontonians
joining
me
in
the
call
in
calling
on
city
council
to
approve
the
teo
core
plan
and
to
invest
in
our
downtown
communities
now
and
for
a
generation
to
come
and
I'd
like
to
read
out
our
letter.
Dear
members
of
City
Council
and
the
planning
and
growth
management
committee.
M
Our
city
is
growing
fast
and,
as
you
all
know,
much
of
that
growth
is
happening
in
the
downtown
core.
The
downtown
is
hope
is
home
to
25%
of
the
jobs
in
the
city
set
to
grow
from
500,000
now
to
nine
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
in
the
future,
but
also
to
residential
neighborhoods
that
have
grown
rapidly
over
the
last
15
years,
growth
that
we
only
see
continuing
from
250,000
to
almost
500,000
in
the
future.
M
Hundreds
of
thousands
of
Torontonians
now
live
downtown
in
largely
vertical
communities,
but
while
countless
condos
were
being
built,
the
city
didn't
keep
up
with
building
the
infrastructure
needed
to
build
complete
communities
like
new
schools,
parks
and
community
spaces.
Parents
are
struggling
to
find
schools,
daycare
and
programming
for
their
kids.
We
need
more
green
space
and
the
kind
of
community
spaces
that
bring
people
together.
This
is
our
chance
to
change
that
in
approving
teok
or
we
can
choose
to
invest
a
city
in
building
complete
communities
in
the
downtown
core.
M
Like
libraries,
childcare
transit
parks
and
community
centers,
even
our
water
and
energy
infrastructure
needs
to
be
upgraded
in
the
court
to
meet
the
demand.
The
vision
set
out
in
teo
corps
will
shape
the
investments
we
make
in
our
city
over
the
next
25
years,
and
voting
to
support
these
investments
will
create
communities
that
can
thrive
that
welcome
all
those
who
call
them
home.
All
of
us
who
travel
through
and
within
them
and
countless
visitors
from
across
our
city
and
across
the
world.
M
Please
commit
to
vote
YES
to
investing
in
our
downtown
communities
by
approving
teok
or,
and
this
letter
is
signed
by
myself
and
hundreds
of
people
who
call
downtown
Toronto,
home
and
I
hope.
Today,
you
show
your
shared
commitment
to
building
come
complete
communities
in
our
downtown
core.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
there.
Any
questions,
I,
don't
see
any
I'm.
Thank
you
for
coming.
Thank
you
very
much
to
members
of
the
public,
though
many
members
of
council
may
also
be
candidates
in
the
election.
We're
not
doing
this
as
an
election
evening
or
a
speech
on
that
we're
trying
to
deal
with
the
issues
that
are
in
front
of
us
of
teo
core
and
whether
you
like
or
don't
like
the
plan
and
what
concerns
you
may
have
with
it
or
what
you
may
think
is
great
in
it.
A
F
I'm
Cathy
McDonald
I'm
here
today,
representing
the
Toronto
noise
Coalition
I'm,
really
pleased
to
see
the
new
teal
core
plan.
I
was
fortunate
to
be
a
city
planner
back
in
the
70s
developing
the
central
area
plan
and
it
has
certainly
grown
beyond
anyone's
expectations.
I
think
our
so.
My
comments
today
are
first
about
the
need
to
ensure
livability
with
this
enormous
growth
of
the
downtown
area
and
more
expected
the
we
believe,
the
the
the
provisions
policies
about
livability
really
need
to
be
strengthened.
F
I
guess
this
is
about
tying
the
silos
of
the
city
together
and
ensuring
that
the
land-use
plan
also
talks
about
the
need
for
good
air
quality
safety
and
protection
from
unwanted
noise.
So
that's
my
first
point:
disease.
The
livability
provisions
need
to
be
strengthened
to
ensure
the
protections
to
people
who
live,
work
and
play
in
the
downtown.
F
F
We
think
that
there
are
better
ways
to
protect
existing
venues
which,
with
City
initiatives
and
forms
of
grants,
use
of
city
facilities
for
live
music
venues,
tax
relief
and
things
like
that.
Other
cities
have
done
it
and
I
think
the
city
really
needs
to
be
focusing
on
these
kinds
of
solutions
and
ensuring
that
all
the
citizens
of
the
downtown
are
protected
from
unwanted
noise.
The
other
policy
area
is
around
the
use
of
open
space
and
having
live
music
and
making
these
spaces.
Vibrant
is
really
important,
but
there
also
needs
to
be
some
rules
around.
F
H
F
There's
I
mean
it
really
depends
on
the
situation,
but
it's
around
hours.
It's
around
mitigation
measures
it's
around.
What
are
the
activities
I
mean
I
should
note
that
there's
lots
of
venues
that
operate
very
effectively
and
don't
create
havoc
for
the
people
who
live
and
make
all
the
noise
complaints
about
them.
So
you
know
I,
don't
think
there.
It's
not
a
simple
process.
F
One
that
we
heard
about
in
our
meetings
and
around
noise
were
by
law
working
group
was
the
Phoenix
on
Sherbourne,
where
the
manager
took
a
number
of
measures
to
ensure
that
noise
didn't
leak
outside
and
people
weren't
rowdy
on
the
streets
after
the
the
concerts,
and
that
was
that's
their
normal
operating
procedures
as
I
understand
it.
Okay,.
K
A
You
no
other
non
members
that
are
here
that
want
questions.
Any
members
of
committee
have
a
brief.
When
Kathie
you
were
saying,
find
solutions
to
protect
Live,
Music
Venues
and
then
on
your
last
question.
It
was
a
question
about
the
noise
emulating
from
the
venue
and
the
people
out
in
the
community.
So
were
you
looking
for
the
city
to
try
to
save
the
old
venues
in
particular
ones,
because
I'm
a
little
confused
or
well.
A
F
A
A
N
J
J
Okay,
we
actually
live
on
on
Huntley
Street,
there's
a
number
of
us
that
got
together
and
while
we
support
the
teal
core
plan
overall,
our
half
block-
and
it
is
a
half-
a
block-
has
been
orphaned.
It's
a
hundred
yards
from
Bloor
Street,
it's
adjacent
to
Sherbourne
subway
station
and
we
have
750
story
towers,
going
up
within
300
yards
of
our
homes,
we're
a
small
number
of
homes
and
we
got
together
and
decided.
We
were
going
to
try
and
be
proactive
about
making
the
area
better.
J
We
approached
a
developer
and
brought
him
on
side
and
have
recently
found
the
Tioga
core
plan
blocks
are
are
moving
forward
quickly
to
resolve
some
of
these
issues
and
as
such,
we're
before
you
here
today
to
highlight
a
number
of
points
and
within
the
agenda
there
is
a
presentation
and
a
letter
I've
written,
so
I
won't
go
through
those
or
read
those.
But
what
I
will
do
is
highlight
some
of
the
really
salient
points
the
neighborhood
is
in
transition
where
mixed-use
transition,
it's
a
small
group
and
we
as
such
should
be
designated
mixed-use
transition.
J
We
have
high-rise
towers
within
a
hundred
yards
250,
two-story
towers,
a
new
Hilton
Hotel,
all
currently
going
up
and
four
more
down
Howard
Street,
which
is
a
continuation
of
Selby
I'd
like
to
take
you
around
the
block
quickly
in
pictures
and
highlight
to
some
of
these
points
and
and
do
that
to
to
really
move
through
the
issues.
This
is
our
partial
bra
block,
as
you
can
see
at
the
top
end
of
the
screen,
we're
right
across
the
street
from
Rogers
corporate
headquarters
to
the
to
the
right
on
your
screen.
J
You
see
the
green
wind,
mall
and
Bloor
Street
and
to
the
south
you
see
the
James
Cooper
condos
and
there's
a
little
square
there
right,
showing
and
all
the
hostel
and
just
below
that
there's
a
new
52
storey
tower
that
called
the
Selby.
That's
just
going
to
be
completed
in
that
next
few
months.
This
shows
some
of
the
areas
around
us
across
the
street
30
feet
away
the
Rogers
again,
the
Rogers
employee
entrance
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
coming
and
going
every
day
from
the
subway
cars
dropping
off
and
going
down
our
street.
J
J
This
is
green
when
apartments
40
feet
to
the
north
of
the
corner
of
Huntley
Street,
again,
really
not
a
neighborhood
and
and
more
locations
all
around
us
that
are
being
developed.
This
is
looking
down
Selby
Street.
You
can
see
the
towers
behind
us
and
on
the
left-hand
side,
there's
a
new
52
story:
Hilton
Hotel
going
in
so
that's
going
to
create
extensive
traffic,
more
trucks,
etc
down
Shelby,
and
then
they
turn
onto
Huntley
and
come
past
a
few
homes.
Here,
another
picture
the
alley
at
the
back
of
our
area:
345
Bloor,
Street
East.
J
This
actually
is
Selby
Street,
which
you
can
walk
through
the
building
and
get
to
blue
or
hopefully,
that
gives
you
some
idea
of
this
location.
If
you're
not
familiar
with
it
parking
and
to
the
right
you'll
see
that's
parking
for
the
mall
and
to
the
right
of
it
is
where
the
construction
of
the
new
Hilton
tell
this
the
another
parking
entrance
loading
bays.
We
have
a
number
of
them
around
us.
This
is
the
new
hotel
going
in
that's
the
air
it's
gonna
take.
J
J
J
This
is
a
Sherbourne
subway
station,
roughly
175
metres
from
from
our
homes
fits
within
the
provision.
Provincial
jurisdiction,
Howard
Street.
This
corner
was
sold
two
weeks
ago
to
concert
properties,
a
new
50
story,
Tower
plus
I'm
sure
at
four
hundred
and
thirty,
eight
thousand
square
feets
going
to
be
going
in
shortly
right
behind
it.
Three
or
four
other
Tridel
buildings,
looking
up
that's
the
Selby
again,
this
picture
I
think
is
probably
one
of
the
one
of
the
most
appropriate
pictures.
J
J
J
N
Also
live
on
Henley
Street
and
then
in
that
block
we're
basically
an
orphaned
area
when
I
first
moved
there.
Thirteen
years
ago,
my
friends
asked:
where
do
you
live?
What
neighborhood
I
was
perplexed?
There
was
no
real
neighborhood.
At
that
time,
it
was
semies
facing
monstrosity.
The
Rogers
in
siding
on
to
green
wind,
I,
still
loved,
where
I
wanted
to
be
and
I.
That's
why
I
purchased
that
property?
It
was
close,
a
couple
minutes
to
Sherbourne
a
couple
more
minutes
to
Yonge
and
Bloor
close
to
all
amenities,
employment,
etc.
N
I
was
a
kid
that
grew
up
in
the
suburbs,
and
I
was
thrilled
to
live
there.
However,
every
area
goes
through
a
tipping
point
and
in
this
area
it
has
gone
through
the
tipping
point
in
our
block
and
time
has
come
in
recent
years,
the
density,
the
traffic,
the
lack
of
privacy
has
become
unbearable
and
untenable,
although
any
semblance
of
a
low-rise
residential
area
is
long
gone,
I
at
least
had
a
chance
to
see
open
sky
in
my
little
backyard.
This
was
my
respite
from
the
chaos
that
existed
around
today.
N
My
one
very
small,
single
block
of
two
and
three-story
homes
is
now
further
engulfed
by
over
80
floors
of
residential
towers
50
over
50
in
the
Selby
and
thirty-two
and
James
Cooper
no
longer
can
I
enjoy.
My
backyard
is
only
seven
narrow
lot
widths
behind
my
home
looms
of
50
floor
tower
with
hundreds
of
windows
from
hundreds
of
Suites
looming
above
my
small
home
in
backyard.
N
My
BOB
blinds
that
before,
when
I
moved
in
were
close
to
the
front,
which
I
knew
and
understood
are
now
closed
at
the
back
as
well,
because
any
sense
of
privacy
I
have
and
a
low-rise
dwelling
is
now
gone.
In
fact,
as
David
mentioned,
I
lived
in
an
I
live
now
in
an
orphaned
half
block.
That
seems
to
be
a
Forgotten
fragment
in
our
city,
with
many
new
developments
further
to
the
south
and
more
being
developed,
more
people
use
our
lane
as
a
sidewalk.
N
So
we
have
a
courtroom-
one
of
Canada's
largest
corporate
headquarters
in
front
of
my
actual
house,
with
the
one
of
the
main
entrances
there
and
we
have
other
major
corporate
headquarters
within
a
one
minute
walk
basically,
so
it
now
makes
my
parking
lane
basically
unsafe
for
my
use
as
it's
basically
a
pedestrian
way
for
other
people
to
use
with
more
loading
zones
coming
with
the
hunt
with
fiat
Selby,
as
well
as
the
residential
and
hotel
complex
known
as
Rosedale
and
Bloor.
This
will
only
continue
to
make
this
area
difficult
to
live
in.
N
My
house
is
situated
north
of
Linden.
If
that
same
house
was
on
the
other
side
of
Jarvis,
it
would
be
a
continuation
of
Charles
Street,
which
has
seen
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
floors
of
high-density
developments.
I
realize
that,
in
order
to
build
a
livable,
sustainable
city,
building
density
is
a
must,
particularly
near
transit.
N
Quickly
is
already
consumed,
the
incredible
proximity
to
transit
and
everything
else
still
is
there.
The
only
difference
is
the
exceptional
growth
in
the
city
has
made
our
area
incompatible
with
its
current
use,
and
it
should
be
part
of
the
mix,
use
blue
or
Yorkville
corridor.
Thank
just
to
sum
up
now
carefully.
N
A
Sorry,
you
had
ten
minutes
between
you
and
there
were
a
lot
of
people
waiting
and
we
understand
the
position
you're
putting
forward
quite
clearly.
Okay,
thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
of
the
deputies,
not
seeing
any?
Thank
you
thank
you
for
coming.
Thank
you.
I
have
mark
Cairns
and
then
I
have
Diane
Valdez
II
after
that.
A
K
A
K
Mine
will
be
sort
of
a
little
more
personal
story
and
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I
do
understand
that
the
teal
core
plan
wants
to
preserve
the
character
and
integrity
of
neighborhoods
I
get
that,
but
ours
has
never
been
a
traditional
neighborhood
and
it's
most
certainly
isn't
now.
So,
as
I've
lived
there
a
pretty
long
time,
I
just
like
to
give
you
a
very
short
but
colorful
history
of
the
area.
K
When
I
was
a
student
back
in
the
70s
I
used
to
visit
fellow
students
on
the
street,
who
were
renting
and
the
constant
presence,
there
was
a
gathering
of
prostitutes
who
you
know
plied
their
business
on
the
on
the
street
and
the
street
was
very
busy
because
John's
were
driving
up
and
down
checking
out
the
girls.
So
the
city
had
to
make
provisions
for
that
and
they
turned
it
into
a
one-way
street
so
that
there
would
be
less
congestion
on
the
street.
K
There
was
still
a
lot
of
transient
people
in
the
neighborhood
and
rooming
houses
and
in
fact
our
neighbors
were
a
bunch
of
rambunctious
guys
who
lived
in
a
rooming
house
and
smoked
a
lot
of
weed,
and
you
know,
played
cards
all
night,
but
my
husband
and
I
used
to
joke
that
it's
a
gritty
neighborhood,
but
it
keeps
us
real
and
gritty.
It
was
the
the
in
our
private
lane
behind
our
garage.
We
often
find
hypodermic
needles
and
used
condoms
in
the
lane,
etc.
K
So,
to
call
this
sort
of
a
traditional
leafy
neighborhood
would
be
a
misnomer.
Why
did
we
like
it?
Because
it's
incredibly
central,
Yonge
and
Bloor
was
you
know
five
minutes
away?
Sherbourne
subway
stop
a
stone's
throw
away.
In
fact,
those
those
subway
stops
are
so
close
that
we
would
feel
the
vibrations
in
our
in
our
bedroom
and
we'd
know
exactly
when
the
subway
was
going
along.
However,
we
did
have
a
little
garden.
It
was
surprisingly
quiet
and
private
for
the
area,
especially
when
the
the
weird
guys
next
door
moved
away
in
203
my
husband
died.
K
An
untimely
death
and
I
said
to
my
friends:
I
will
never
leave
this
house.
That's
his
legacy.
You'll
have
to
take
me
out
feet.
First,
I
and
I
said:
I'll
never
sell
this
house
to
anybody,
because
Andrews
sort
of
not
spirit
but
his
sense
of
who
he
was
was
imbued
in
the
house
because
he
built
it.
Then,
as
time
went
on
and
the
last
15
years
since
his
death
I
have
lived
there
quite
happily,
but
things
started
to
change
around
us
and
my
esteemed
neighbors
have
spoken
to
you
about
Rogers
plunking
itself
across
the
street.
K
Now
they
did
placate
us
by
putting
townhouses
there,
but
sadly
the
townhouses
are
empty
and
dark,
because
they're
really
just
used
for
the
corporate
employees
who
may
come
in
from
out
of
town.
So
if
they're,
it's
a
bit
like
a
ghost
town
across
the
street,
they've
talked
to
you
about
green
wind
Plaza.
One
of
the
problems
that
we've
had
is
that
people
park
in
front
of
our
garage
and
our
private
lane,
so
they
can
run
in
and
get
a
burger
from
McDonald's
or
they
can
do
their
shopping
at
no
frills.
K
So
that
has
been
a
little
bit
of
a
problem,
but
we've
put
up
with
it.
Then,
when
these
two
behemoths,
the
the
32
story,
James
Cooper,
condos,
came
and
now
in
construction,
the
the
50
story,
Selby
things
really
sort
of
took
a
Selvi.
The
traffic
on
Selby
is
so
congested
that
the
drivers
now
use
our
private
lane
as
a
thoroughfare
to
take
a
shortcut
to
Linden
Street,
and
that
happens
very
regularly.
K
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
we
are
not
a
neighborhood
like
cabbage
town,
we're
just
way
too
close
to
the
action
on
Bloor,
and
that
is
both
a
blessing
and
a
curse
depending
on
how
you
look
at
it.
I
can't
fight
this
reality
anymore.
I
accept
that
Toronto
is
a
very
dynamic
city
and
it
inevitably
will
change.
But
we
are
a
hybrid
neighborhood.
K
We
have
no
schools,
no
parks,
we've
got
two
kids
in
the
whole
neighborhood.
That's
it
there's
just
too
much
noise.
Now
too
much
traffic
and
I
think
I
have
to
leave
it's
just
no
longer.
You
know
they
talked
about
livability
and
enjoy
ability
in
my
community.
I.
Don't
have
that
anymore
and
nine
people
on
like
block
agree,
and
how
often
do
you
get
nine
people
to
agree
to
anything?
K
So
our
value
lies
in
the
proximity
we
are
to
Bloor,
Street
and
I
would
just
ask
urge
you
to
keep
an
open
mind
when
considering
the
designation,
which
is
now
neighborhood
and
understand
the
reality
on
the
ground
from
those
of
us
who
live
in
the
trenches
there.
In
my
humble
opinion,
it
makes
eminent
sense
to
designate
this
area
mixed-use
because
in
essence
it
already
is.
Thank
you.
O
O
You,
my
name
is
Victoria
Shepherd
I'm,
the
director
of
operations
at
music,
Canada,
Life,
Canada's
live
music
industry
association
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
our
board
membership
and
our
executive
director
Aaron
Benjamin
Music
Canada
Live
is
dedicated
to
helping
the
live
music
industry,
develop
its
full
potential
through
research
collaboration
and
advocacy
across
Canada.
Our
mission
is
to
entrench
the
economic,
cultural
and
social
value
and
power
of
live
music.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
appear
before
you
to
discuss
teok
or
in
2015
music.
O
Canada
live
helped
release
an
economic
profile
at
the
live
music
industry
in
Ontario
called
live
music
measures
up.
We
established
that
this
critically
important
sector
contributes
1.2
billion
dollars
to
provincial
GDP
and
creates
20,000
jobs.
83%
of
the
companies
interviewed
were
projecting
future
growth.
Toronto
is
a
single
largest
market
for
the
sector
for
the
past
two
years,
music,
canada
live,
has
been
part
of
the
ministry
of
tourism,
culture
and
sport.
Provincial
roundtable
called
the
ontario
live
music
working
group.
On
april
16th,
we
launched
a
document
called
the
vision
for
Ontario's
live
music
industry.
O
This
is
an
approach
to
position
the
sector
for
further
growth
across
the
province.
The
vision
notes
the
importance
of
deeper
industry
and
government
collaboration,
especially
where
regulatory
issues
are
concerned,
such
as
ensuring
that
noise
bylaws
are
balanced
so
that
they
address
those
who
might
be
affected
by
live
music
presentations
in
their
neighbourhoods
without
imposing
undue
restrictions
on
live.
Music
stakeholders
live
music
plays
a
vital
role
across
the
city
by
transcending
cultural
differences,
promoting
public
celebrations,
fostering
vibrant
communities
and
making
Toronto
a
desirable
City
to
live
in
or
visit
in
August
2015.
O
The
Toronto
music
advisory
industry
council
t-mac
submitted
noise
bylaw
recommendations,
which
specifically
recommended
that
the
city
used
the
agent
of
change
principle
in
specially
designated
areas
of
Toronto
to
determine
responsibility
for
noise
mitigation
costs,
developers
and
building.
Permit
applicants
should
be
advised
of
pre-existing
neighboring
music
venues
and
of
the
responsibility
to
implement
reasonable
reduction
measures,
including
appropriate
noise
reduction.
O
Canada
live
applauds
the
city's
proposed
actions
in
the
secondary
plan
that
address
the
concerns
that
are
facing
downtown
music
venues
by
and
I
quote,
including
policies
which
will
encourage
the
retention
of
live
music
venues,
as
well
as
introducing
new
measures
based
on
the
agent
of
change
principle
that
has
been
used
in
other
cities
around
the
world
to
ensure
that
music
venues
can
continue
to
function
without
impact
on
and
from
increasingly
residential
development.
Specifically
sections
twelve
point,
ten
to
twelve
point.
O
Where
we
love
to
live
and
work,
we
look
forward
to
working
with
the
City
of
Toronto
to
ensure
that
the
tío
core
plan
recognizes
the
crucial
contribution
of
live
music
to
stakeholders,
small
medium
large,
both
indoors
and
out
to
the
enrichment
of
our
economic,
social
and
cultural
well-being.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
this
morning.
Thank.
A
P
My
name
is
Lynn
Robinson
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you.
I'm
the
chair
of
the
Toronto
Island
noise
committee,
I've,
been
on
the
noise
beat
for
about
over
20
years
in
the
Toronto
harbour
struggling
to
find
a
way
for
residences
and
the
music
industry
to
coexist
so
that
they
can
go
on
with
their
business.
We
can
go
on
with
our
lives
and
we
are
good
neighbors
to
each
other.
It's
taken
a
lot
of
work
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
does
work
is
noise
mitigation.
P
Good
relationships
with
your
venues
at
the
get-go
so
that
they
do
the
things
they
need
to
do
to
protect
the
residents
and
the
residents
are.
We
can
tolerate
a
fair
amount
of
noise.
If
we
are
in
good
relationships
with
our
venues
to
manage
noise,
you
have
to
start
up
front,
you
have
to
educate,
prevent
and
mitigate
you,
don't
want
with
noise
ever
to
end
up
in
court
or
in
hearings.
P
It's
a
terrible
process,
so
I'm
here
to
talk
about
mitigation,
because
it's
in
the
eto
corplan
noise
is
a
contaminant
it's
defined
as
a
contaminant
under
the
Environmental
Protection
Act,
it's
not
a
matter
of
opinion.
It
affects
people's
health.
The
province
has
laws
to
mitigate
noise,
NPC
304,
stationery
industry.
So
if
you're
a
tool
and
dye
factory,
there
are
certain
hurdles
you
have
to
pass
before
you
can
even
get
your
business.
Rolling.
P
You've
got
to
get
certified
that
you
have
put
in
noise
mitigation
measures,
moving
targets
like
the
music
industry,
traffic
dogs,
fall
to
the
municipalities,
to
legislate
and
regulate,
and
at
the
moment
the
music
industry
and
the
construction
industry
do
not
have
requirements
to
mitigate
their
noise.
I
think
construction
has
a
requirement
to
mitigate
vibration,
but
not
noise.
So
what's
happened,
we
use
it.
We
used
to
partly
manage
noise
through
zoning.
P
You
know
we're
looking
at
dense
multi-use
areas,
we're
putting
what
are
defined
to
be
polluting
industries
that
create
vibration
and
noise
together
with
residents
and
there's
a
great
potential
here
for
a
lot
of
trouble
without
looking
at
how
do
you
prevent
that
noise
from
getting
out
in
the
first
place?
I
mean
it's:
it's
not
rocket
science.
You
put
a
troubling
industry
beside
residents.
You
have
to
try
to
contain
what
that
industry
is
doing
and
I
think
we
have
a
long
long
way
to
go
with
noise
mitigation
in
Toronto
both
for
music
and
for
construction.
P
It's
difficult
to
find
what
silo
this
goes
into
I'm,
showing
up
here,
because
there's
a
noise
mitigation
proposal
in
the
Geo
Corps
plan,
I
used
to
be
a
project
leader
and
analyst,
and
I
often
found
that
people
would
identify
problems
and
with
the
wrong
solution
very
quickly
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
have
in
the
plan.
We
have
a
problem
which
is
the
protection
of
Live,
Music,
Venues
and
I.
P
P
A
P
You,
mr.
chairman,
many
members,
members
of
the
public
I,
also
live
on
Huntley,
Street
and
I
wanted
to
talk
about
a
little
bit.
Why
we
feel
this
area
now
has
become
a
mixed,
neighborhood
and
I'm,
not
going
to
reiterate
what
David
and
Steven
and
everyone
have
said-
I
mean
I
endorse
it
totally.
These
two
pictures
are
the
views
from
our
backyard
and
from
our
front
yard.
Looking
the
other
way,
when
we
moved
into
49
Huntley
Street,
there
are
absolutely
no
high-rises.
P
We
had
a
little
oasis,
we
had
a
secret
garden
beside
us
and
we
enjoyed
our
garden
and
through
the
years
we've
just
been,
it's
just
been
changing,
not
necessarily
for
the
better
and
and
and
really
hasn't,
isn't
a
viable
neighborhood
anymore.
For
several
reasons.
One,
even
though
Rodgers
is
a
great
corporate
client,
our
corporate
head
office
and
is
good
in
the
neighborhood,
it
poses
some
issues
for
us
we're
directly
opposite
us.
P
Besides
the
staff
entrance,
the
shipping
docks
the
underground
parking
they've
also
now
purchased
all
the
buildings
on
the
other
side
of
the
shipping
docks
right
down
to
Isabella
and
from
Isabella
over
to
Jarvis
as
well
from
Huntley
and
there's
going
to
be
major
redevelopment
in
the
future
happening
there
as
well.
It'll,
probably
be
high
density.
Casey
house
is
also
backing
on
to
Huntley
Street
as
well.
They
have
the
shipping
docks
right
there
on
Huntley
to
the
old
Casey
house
as
well,
is
being
used
by
another
group
and
they
have
their
shipping
docks
there
as
well.
P
So
just
on
Huntley
alone,
we've
got
three
shipping
docks
heading
back
north
on
Huntley
on
our
side
of
the
street.
We
have
the
Teachers
Federation
building
is
taken
over
half
that
block
and
there's
just
a
few
homes
left
on
that
corner
and
then
there's
our
little
part
there,
because
we
have
the
green
wind
tower
on
the
next
block,
so
we've
sort
of
been
really
eye
and
then
on
selbee
there
was
a
Catholic
public
school
there.
It's
been
closed
also
for
several
years,
both
the
rogers
buildings
that
they've
purchased
and
the
school
or
empty.
P
The
facade
houses
that
were
built
by
rogers
are
underused
and
we
never
see
anyone
going
into
that
area
like
we're.
Sort
of
we've
been
dying
basically
with
what's
been
going
on
the
traffic
because
of
the
way
the
ones
one
way
streets
have
been
developed
in
order
to
get
to
the
shipping
docks
for
all
the
entities
which
include
the
three
shipping
docks
that
will
be
on
Linden,
one
of
them's
operating
right
now,
the
Rogers
one,
the
ones
further
down
on
Huntley,
both
for
Casey
hospital
and
for
Casey
house,
and
also
for
the
Cooper
mansion.
P
They
have
to
do
a
horseshoe
around
us
to
go
up
Linden
Street
as
well.
Every
day
we've
got
garbage
trucks
and
all
sorts
of
commercial
vehicles.
Mcdonald's
has
tractor
trailers,
they
don't
even
try
going
in
the
shipping
dogs
they
just
Park
on
Huntley
Street
and
do
their
skid
deliveries.
Every
day
from
from
there,
we
have
a
real
increase
in
pedestrian
traffic
now
from
Charles
Street
coming
through
the
walkway
that
they
can
walk
through
a
Rogers
as
well
as
our
lane
way,
and
also
the
employee
entrance
for
Rogers.
The
sidewalks
are
far
too
narrow.
P
The
traffic
is
heavy,
we
we've
become
blur
Street
in
a
way
and-
and
that's
really
changed
the
nature
of
our
neighborhood.
We
feel
with
better
urban
planning,
designating
the
area
as
mixed-use
there's
a
possibility
of
perhaps
improving
the
neighborhood
a
little
bit
and
doing
more
vertical
living
and
trying
to
improve
the
neighborhood.
The
quality
of
the
neighborhood
and.
P
P
A
G
Combined
after
lunch
would
make
sense,
I
do
have
a
submission
on
out
of
29.5
in
writing,
which
I
haven't
seen
anywhere
written
down.
I'll
ask
the
clerk
if
they
can
produce
it,
so
that
members
can
read
that
later
on
I'm,
just
here
really
to
echo
what
was
said
by
the
deputies,
Lynn
Robertson
and
Kathy
McDonald
about
Live
Music
Venues
and
how
they
should
mitigate
their
annoys,
not
impose
it
on
the
public,
especially
the
public
who's.
Already
here,
the
agent
of
change
issue
will
not
help
with
all
the
people
that
already
live
and
work.
G
The
only
thing
I'd
really
like
to
add
is
that
why
Q&A,
which
is
the
residence
Association
on
the
queen's
key,
that
I
am
the
treasurer
for
sorry
secretary,
for-
did
note
that
the
son
plan
to
conduct
public
surveys
and
opinion
polls
to
determine
what
extent
amplified
sound
or
other
noise
can
be
accepted,
downtown
I'm.
Sorry,
members
are
not
listening.
I
can't.
G
So,
therefore,
we
feel
that
a
general
survey
across
the
city
would
provide
a
lopsided
result.
The
people
who
are
affected
by
noise
would
allow
more
of
it
while
the
people
who
live
in
the
night
high
noise
areas,
who
are
a
minority
of
residents
of
the
city,
would
suffer
and
not
be
heard
in
a
survey
format.
So
we
don't
support
the
polling
suggestion
if
they
would
like
to
consult
the
people
who
live
downtown.
That
would
be
fine,
but
please
don't
do
it
citywide.
Thank
you.