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Public Works and Infrastructure Committee - April 11, 2018 - Part 2 of 2
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A
I'm
bingo:
let's
do
it
welcome
back
everyone.
We
are
going
to
commence
the
afternoon
session
of
Public,
Works
and
Infrastructure
Committee,
and
the
item
that
we
were
on.
We've
gone
through
our
deputies
and
we
are
on
I,
believe
speakers.
Was
there
any
more
questions
or
we
hadn't
moved
to
questions
right.
So
does
anybody
we're
just
so
everybody's
clear
what
item
we're
on
we're
on
the
review
of
single
serve
coffee,
pods
in
the
city
of
Toronto's
waste
diversion
program?
B
B
C
So
through
you,
madam
chair,
no,
the
work
on
this
does
not
stop.
We
will
continue
to
work
with
both
the
recyclable
and
the
compostable
pod
manufacturers,
retailers,
distributors,
to
try
and
find
a
solution
to
that.
Ultimately,
we
want
to
see
a
solution
to
this
as
well
and
and
it's
a
combination
of
a
promotion,
education,
service
program,
side
and
a
technology
side.
So
we
think
we've
got
a
good
understanding
on
the
program
side,
how
this
would
be
delivered.
It's
the
technology
side
and
our
challenges.
B
There
hope
forward
I
in
the
report.
It
talks
a
little
bit
about
both
of
the
technologies
for
the
coffee
pause,
but
but
one
of
them
was
the
the
plastic
components
and
doing
a
pilot
test
to
see
if
it
will
work
with
our
digester
pretreatment
systems.
Is
that
something
that
staff
are
encouraged
to
explore
further
in
order
to
assess
whether
or
not
this
is
something
that
could
eventually
make
it
into
the
organic
stream?
Yes,.
C
We're
actually
working
with
club
coffee,
one
of
the
previous
deputy,
to
do
to
run
a
test
at
our
ad
plant,
just
to
confirm
that
it
will
actually
go
through
the
process
and
that's
our
concern.
We
don't
want
to
accept
a
product
if
we
know
it's
gonna,
get
skimmed
off
right
at
the
initial
stage
and
end
up
in
a
landfill
site
anyways,
so
we're
working
with
them.
C
B
There
optimism
on
the
other
technology
front
with
the
the
other
type
of
coffee
cups
that
are
assembled
products,
and
this
notion
that
you've
circled
in
the
report
about
the
requirement
to
disintegrate
them
before
putting
them
into
the
correct
streams.
Is
there
some
promise
of
the
future
of
that
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
changing
I.
C
Think
there
is
promise
for
the
future
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
be
seen
as
trying
to
stifle
innovation,
because
there's
a
lot
of
really
good
innovative
work
being
done
by
some
of
these
companies.
There's
different
types
of
pods
coming
into
the
market.
We
heard
from
one
deputy
that
has
a
particular
design,
there's
other
designs
coming
into
the
market
that
may
theoretically
be
easier
to
separate
apart.
So
these
these
prod
and
designs
there,
these
companies
are
actively
working
on
making
them
easier
to
pull
apart
and
to
separate.
C
B
Guess
the
last
piece
would
be
in
many
ways:
the
taxpayers
or
the
ratepayers
or
the
users
of
our
service
to
dispose
of
waste
our
consumers.
And
would
you
say
that
there
is
a
consumer
demand
for
the
idea
of
reducing
waste
or
zero
waste,
disintegrating
the
products,
recycling,
the
products
decomposing
the
products
and
as
you
as
general
manager?
Are
you
prepared
to
rise
to
that
challenge
to
meet
the
consumer
demand.
B
C
We're
always
ready
to
rise
to
a
challenge
here
in
the
solid
waste
division,
but
a
consumer
demand
I
think
absolutely
there's
more
and
more
consumer
demand,
and
you
can
see
that
by
the
number
of
these
new
products
and
the
amount
of
money
that
they're
spending
and
getting
these
products
out
to
market
I.
Think
there's
consumer
demand
to
see
these
more
environmentally
fraud
products
coming
into
market
and
and
hopefully
we
will
be
able
to
work
with
those
companies
to
find
a
solution
on
the
back
end
as
well.
C
My
concern
is
always
if
we
do
start
accepting
into
the
program,
is
it
good
for
the
environment
and
can
be
managed
in
an
environmentally
responsible
way?
Is
it?
Is
there
a
financially
responsible
way
to
add
those
to
the
program,
so
actually
in
June,
P
wick
we're
gonna
be
bringing
forward
a
report
that
actually
lays
out
a
stepwise
process
as
to
how
we
would
go
through
considering
added
new,
adding
a
new
material
to
the
blue
bean
or
green
bin
program?
What
conditions
would
be
on
that?
C
A
A
C
A
C
Wouldn't,
if
you're
talking
specifically
about
compostable
pods,
well,
we're
gonna,
run
those
tests
and
make
sure
that
it
is
capable
of
doing
that.
On
the
recyclable
side,
we
did
observe
the
test
at
CFL,
where
our
material
goes.
It
was,
to
some
extent,
successful
and
getting
them
at
the
the
plastic
pod
to
where
it
needed
to
go
that
the
bigger
challenge
is:
is
that
pod
going
to
be
in
a
condition
that
it
is
recyclable
once
it
gets
there
and
based
on
what
we're
seeing
of
material
coming
in
the
front
door?
C
The
recycling
facility,
those
pods,
have
not
been
peeled,
they've
not
been
emptied,
they
are
full
pods
coming
in
and
the
challenge
that
we
have
is
not
necessarily
with
the
plastic
cup
it's
with
where
it
what
happens
to
all
that
organic
material
in
there
and
does
it
then
further
contaminate
other
aspects
of
the
recycling
stream?
Okay,.
A
C
A
A
D
Request,
the
general
manager
solid
waste
management
services
to
continue
to
work
with
the
produces
a
recyclable,
coffee,
pod,
stewardship,
Ontario
and
other
industry
stakeholders
towards
an
agreement
that
would
allow
for
the
recycling
of
coffee
pods
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
I
know
that
this
has
been
stated
that
they
are
going
to
continue
to
do
this.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
clear
and
written
out
that
this
will
continue,
because
I
believe
it
is.
D
It
is
something
that
that
we
can
get
to
and
and
that
we
can
reach
the
point
where
their
recyclable
or
compostable.
Whichever
way
is
the
better
way
to
go,
or
both
perhaps
but
I
know,
some
companies
have
made
significant
strides
to
this.
Other
companies
aren't
doing
anything
so
I'd
like
to
see
those
companies
even
work
towards
this
as
well.
A
Okay,
we've
got
a
motion
before
us.
Is
there
any
other
speakers
on
this?
Seeing
none
we're
going
to
put
the
it's
already
up
there.
So
all
those
in
favor
of
councillor
Carmichael
grubs
motion
that
Kerry
opposed.
Were
you
post
up
that
carried
unanimously?
Sorry
I
thought
your
hair
went
up
that
carries
and
do
we
have
to
move
anything
else
on
the
report?
No
okay,
so
that's
just
I.
Think
we've
got
counseling
on
Giada's
item
dealt
with
now.
Do
we
not
have
that
motion
ready?
Oh,
did
we?
Okay?
A
Sorry,
yes,
I'm,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm
I
was
thinking
about
your
either
item.
So
the
next
item
is
we've.
We've
looked
after
that.
Yes,
that
was
the
one
you
signed.
So
sorry,
I
was
thinking
of
her
item
other
item,
which
was
the
ward
11
safety
and
and
movements.
So
that's
what
was
on
my
mind.
Twenty
eight
point,
twelve.
So
what
we
have
left
is
three
items:
the
car
share,
pilot
and
there's
a
short,
very
brief
presentation.
A
Staff
would
like
to
make
on
that
and
then
moving
forward
on
the
ward,
eleven
activities
related
to
pedestrian
cyclist
safety,
and
then
we
have
the
cycling
network
implementation
and
we
have
speakers
on
that
item.
So
the
clerk's
suggesting
we
do
twenty
eight
point.
Twelve.
Is
that
okay
with
committee
or
okay?
So
the
this
item
is
moving
forward,
an
action
plan
to
improve
safety
and
and
opportunities
for
peds
and
cyclists
and
word
eleven.
We've
got
a
couple
speakers
on
this
item
if
they
could
come
forward,
so
the
first
speaker
is
Rebecca
Goodwin
welcome,
Rebecca.
E
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Rebecca
Goodwin
and
I'm
here,
representing
walk
Toronto
I'm,
a
member
of
the
steering
committee
and
I've,
been
here
before
to
talk
with
you
about
other
things.
Just
a
refresher
walk
Toronto
is
an
all-volunteer
pedestrian
advocacy
group.
We've
been
in
existence
for
five
years.
E
We
kind
of
filled
the
void
when
the
prior
mayor
disbanded,
the
committee
that
worked
as
an
advisor
on
pedestrian
matters
to
City
Council,
so
I
wanted
to
bring
hearty
congratulations
and
accolades
from
walk
trono
to
councillor
Nunziata
and
her
group
on
the
preparation
of
this
moving
forward
action
plan.
It's
just
the
kind
of
thing
that
our
group
is
working
to
encourage
and
support
throughout
the
city.
It
outlines
all
kinds
of
plans
and
recommendations
that
are
very
much
consistent
with
what
we've
been
striving
to
see
achieved
in
the
city
over
the
last
five
years.
E
What
we
would
hope
to
see
is
many
more
war
following
suit
and
doing
this
kind
of
forward
thinking
and
planning.
So
we
want
to
really
congratulate
you
on
bringing
together
the
group
and
shepherding
through
to
produce
a
fantastic
product
in
a
really
a
short
period
of
time
and
to
say
that
we
would
welcome
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
and
support
you
on
any
of
the
recommendations.
There
are
just
a
couple
that
I
wanted
to
draw
attention
to
that
we
were
given.
Our
mandate
are
particularly
enthusiastic
about
and
those
are
looking
at.
E
The
report
on
page
2
recommendation
5
about
assessing
the
width
of
sidewalks
on
major
roads.
That's
something
that
we've
dedicated
a
lot
of
attention
to,
including
on
the
matter
of
licensing
of
patios
and
on
sidewalks
and
similarly
recommendations.
Six
through
10
are
all
spot-on
and
just
so
so
happy
to
see
the
recommendation
about
reducing
the
speed
limit
on
all
local
streets
in
Ward
11
that
are
immediately
surrounding
a
school
reduction
to
30.
E
A
F
A
little
bit
off
the
cuff
and
I'm
not
I'm,
just
wearing
a
t-shirt
to
support
the
friends
and
families
for
safe
streets
and
not
speaking
on
their
behalf
or
anything
I
would
like
to
echo
MS
Goodman's.
Compliments
to
the
the
work
of
the
councillor
and
the
volunteers
of
her
ward
to
produce
a
very
effective,
comprehensive,
fine-grain
and
principled
report.
It
is
a
model
in
some
ways,
so
I.
Thank
you
councillor.
F
F
We
don't
always
stay
in
our
own.
In
one
single
Ward
we
travel
along
when
we
go
along
on
a
street,
we
don't
say:
hey
we're
going
from
Ward
18
to
19
hello.
Sometimes
there
are
discrepancies
in
the
in
the
safety
levels
for
sure,
but
we
don't
do
our
building
by
laws
on
award
by
Ward
basis.
We
don't
do
our
tax
hikes
on
award
by
Ward
basis.
F
F
Certainly,
if
you
look
at
the
current
bike
map,
I
grabbed
was
able
to
grab
a
copy
and
and
councillor
Annunziata
will
know
the
wards
the
boundaries
far
better
than
I,
do
I,
don't
usually
get
too
far
north
as
st.
Claire,
sometimes
get
up
to
Eglinton
and
I
was
up
that
area
yesterday
and
boy
Eglinton
is
pretty
or
on
Sunday
and
Eglinton
is
really
rough
to
be
viking
on
it's
horrible
one
of
the
nice
things
in
this
report
was
that
commuters.
They
say,
commuter
cyclists
actually
like
direct
routes,
and
it's
very
true.
F
So
in
order
to
actually
enhance
cycling,
we've
got
to
have
direct
routes
and,
and
it's
a
very
hard
work
to
work
with,
because
there
are
so
many
obstacles-
Geographic
institutional
to
some
extent,
the
the
rail
lines.
So
you
can
see
that
there's
a
bit
of
a
desert
for
bike
facilities
in
in
in
this
area.
Also,
in
the
2001
bike
plan
you
can
see
there,
we
are
I,
think
that's
closer
there.
F
So
this
begs
the
question
of
okay:
we
have
a
wonderful
rapport
when
are
things
actually
going
to
be
done,
where's,
the
money,
etc
and
I
do
hope
that
we'll
manage
to
find
money,
but
to
some
extent
we
should
take
a
number
to
some
extent,
because
we're
not
doing
things
in
this
central
core
that
are
really
essential
in
the
bike
plan.
And
if
you
look
at
the
crash
stats,
some
of
you
have
seen
this
before
I'm
sure
this
is
what's
focused
me
for
the
last.
F
What
decade
or
two
there's
a
clear
pattern
of
harm
and
crash
on
the
the
old
course
streets.
It
was
noted
in
the
bike
plan.
I'm
not
sure
what
page
it
was
collisions
are
more
frequent
to
the
2001
bike
line.
Collisions
are
more
frequent
on
streets
with
high
levels
of
bicycle
traffic,
such
as
blue
or
college,
and
Queen
notice
of
hazard.
F
So
this
is
good,
but
we
House
will
have
to
think
of
where's
the
money
and
given
the
expenses
associated
with
Scarborough
subway,
we
should
be
thinking
about
bold
things
like
lots
of
tunnels
under
the
rail
tracks
to
actually
provide
that
connectivity.
That's
the
sort
of
thing
that
we
should
be
thinking
about
if
we
really
want
to
improve
the
the
the
ability
of
people
in
Ward
11
to
get
around,
we've
got
to
make
those
sort
of
connections
and
that
sort
of
investment.
Thank.
G
You
very
much
and
so
I
gave
the
the
copy.
The
report
to
the
members
of
the
committee
and
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
Barbara
gray,
because
Barbara
gray
did
attend
a
couple
of
my
meetings
and
special
thanks
to
to
Jennifer
in
my
office
that
that
compiled
the
report.
That
did
the
report.
It's
a
very
impressive
report
and
it's
probably
one
of
the
first,
and
that
was
done
through
the
local
wards
and
and
I'm
very
proud
of
jennifer.
G
G
So
hopefully,
from
some
of
these
development
applications,
we
can
secure
some
funding
from
the
developers
on
some
of
the
costs
for
the
for
the
plan
for
the
safety
plan
and
so
I'm
just
asking
and
the
recommendation
is
there
that
the
refer?
The
report
moving
forward,
an
action
plan
to
improve
safety
and
opportunities
for
pedestrians,
cyclists
in
Ward
11
to
the
general
manager
transportation
services
to
consider
the
recommendation
from
the
Ward
11,
pedestrian
safety
and
cycling
committee
and
report
back
to
the
appropriate
Standing
Committee
for
approval.
G
B
Wondered
if
I
may
raise
a
point
of
order
chair
and
have
the
clerk
comment,
the
recommendation,
through
the
councillors
letter,
is
to
refer
the
matter
to
transportation
services
staff.
Does
the
referral
in
itself
indicate
an
endorsement
by
the
P
WIC
or
is
it?
Is
it
simply
a
referral
so
that
the
staff
can
examine
this
and
take
action
is
necessary?
Yes,.
B
A
So
just
so
committee,
so
we're
crystal
clear.
This
is
the
committee
is
not
necessarily
endorsing.
What's
in
this
report,
cuz,
it's
quite
comprehensive
and
thick
a
lot
of
different
ideas
in
there,
but
we
are
referring
it
to
stop
well
I
I'm,
supporting
referring
it
to
staff,
so
I'm
happy
to
move
that
and-
and
we
could
vote
on
it
now
unless
there
was
any
other
comments,
are
you
okay?
Or
would
you
like
to
speak?
A
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
of
referring
it
to
staff
the
the
package
before
us
that
carries
Thank
You
counselor,
none
zyada
and
we're
gonna
go
back
to
the
car.
The
car
share
pilot.
We
have
a
speaker
on
it.
Murray
I,
don't
know
if
Murray
still
are
welcome.
Murray
come
on
up.
You've
got
five
minutes,
you've
waited
a
long
time.
We
appreciate
that.
So
if
you
could
take
a
seat,
make
sure
your
mics
on
and
you
can
start.
H
Microphones
on
okay,
thank
you,
dear
P,
wick,
chair
members,
city,
councilors
and
guests.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
to
you
today.
I
support
the
recommendation.
That's
come
before
you
from
the
general
manager,
transportation
services
that
City
Council
adopt
the
interim
free
floating
car
share
policy,
March
26
2018,
which
our
City
Council
to
conduct
an
18-month
free
floating
car
share,
pilot
project
from
June
1
2018
to
November,
30
2019,
using
issued
permits
to
a
park
and
locations
designated
for
permit
parking,
etc
and
B
be
exempt
from
the
three
hour
to
import
temporal
parking.
H
Duration
limits
it's,
but
accepting
all
the
other
regulations
detailed
in
the
PW
28.1.
One
report
you've
had
before
you
when
my
wife
and
I
moved
to
Toronto
nearly
14
years
ago
to
live
near
our
sons,
family
in
Easton
Toronto.
We
decided
that
we
could
survive
on
one
car
for
both
families,
given
that
my
wife
and
I
are
retired
and
our
son
works
a
lot
from
home.
This
arrangement
worked
very
well
when
we
both
needed
a
car,
mostly
for
out-of-town
trips,
one
of
us
rented
from
a
company
that
is
within
walking
distance.
H
We
also
found
ourselves
getting
around
the
city
satisfactorily
by
walking
some
cycling,
TTC
and
out
of
the
city
by
go
greyhound
and
via
rail.
After
using
up
that
first
car
and
one
more
used
car,
we
decided
last
June
2017
to
go
Carlos
both
of
our
families
soon
became
members.
Clients
of
the
car
to
go
company
and
I'm,
not
I,
want
to
say
that
I'm,
not
lobbying
for
any
company.
In
fact,
I've
read
in
the
paper
that
there's
another
company
like
this
coming
that
may
be
coming
to
town.
H
So
anyway,
we
we
became
members,
clients
of
the
car
to
go
company
U
and
by
using
an
iPad
or
a
smartphone.
Both
of
us
have
rented
cars
from
them
when
public
transit
was
insufficient.
It's
kind
of
like
an
emergency
backup.
These
cars
are
very
attractive
to
casual
renters.
Like
us,
you,
first
of
all
paid
by
the
minute
than
by
the
hour
and
at
about
four
hours
you
pay
by
the
day
automatically
their
advantages
are
one.
H
The
cars
locations
can
be
found
using
an
interactive,
iPad
or
smartphone
app
they're
within
easy
walking
distance
in
our
neighborhood
in
the
East
End.
Due
to
due
to
the
free
floating
nature,
the
cars
can
be
open
and
made
drivable
in
minutes
from
a
smartphone
app
or
an
electronic
card,
and
I
didn't
put
this
in
my
report
for
written
report.
But
three,
the
cars
are
returned
to
an
open
parking
spot
in
our
own
neighborhood.
H
My
city,
councilor
and
media
articles
made
me
aware
that
there's
opposition
to
this
pilot
due
to
fear
of
free
floating
rental
cars
taking
scarce
parking
space,
but
the
reality
is
perhaps
unexpected.
I
read
many
years
ago
that
every
auto
purchased
require
eight
parking
spaces.
Speed
talk
about
subsidized.
What
subsidized
is
the
car
one
at
home,
one
at
work,
one
at
the
mall
etc.
Carter
goes.
Literature
says
that
each
car
to
go
vehicle
represents
eleven
cars,
not
parked
on
our
streets.
H
That
use
fleet
cars
can
reduce
the
size
of
their
fleets
by
renting
some
of
their
vehicles.
There's
a
list
of
benefits
that
I
took
from
city
staff,
literature,
the
report
On
January,
24,
2018
I'm,
just
gonna
just
comment:
read
them
in
comment,
so
benefits
reduced
vehicle
ownership,
thus
opening
up
more
parking
space
cost
savings
compared
to
owning
or
leasing
a
vehicle
and
maintenance,
reduced
household
transportation
costs
a
benefit.
One
cost
for
everything
else
is
rising
freedom
and
responsibility
from
vehicle
ownership
and
maintenance.
It
is
a
great
time
saver.
H
You
don't
have
to
do
anything
with
your
car.
You
don't
have
to
wash
a
ticket
for
maintenance
because
you
just
don't
have
one
reduced
vehicle.
Kilometers
traveled
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
practical
vehicle
options
in
accessible
locations,
alternative
option
to
public
transit
for
bringing
home
large
purchases
that
I
mentioned
the
business
users
again
can
use
them
for
two
to
four
their
fleets
avoid
parking,
avoiding
parking
congestion
and
provide
time
savings
due
to
allocated
parking
space
for
cars,
rear
members,
health
benefits
resulting
from
more
walking,
cycling
and
transit
use.
H
We
have
found
this
to
be
a
major
benefit
of
not
owning
a
car.
Final
reason:
I
support.
This
recommendation
is
my
observation
that
we
have
far
too
many
private
automobiles
in
the
city,
including
those
trying
to
enter
and
lead
the
city
on
congested
highways.
I
am
a
person
who
walks
cycles,
rides
public
transit
and
drives
vehicles.
I've
lived
a
long
time.
I
am
a
senior
and
have
seen
the
road
traffic
congestion
in
the
Golden.
H
Horseshoe
grow,
two
levels
that
are
now
beyond
compatibility
with
a
human-scale
of
living
people
are
being
overwhelmed
and
being
killed
and
injured
by
too
many
fast
moving
vehicles.
I'm
pleased
the
city
and
the
province
are
finally
taking
steps
to
address
this
crisis
by
providing
infrastructure
for
human
powered,
transit,
walking
and
cycling,
and
public
transit,
whether
it
be
TDC,
NGO
or
via,
and
by
redesigning
streets
as
complete
streets,
where
every
kind
of
human
movement
is
addressed,
the
safety
being
paramount.
Free-Floating
CarShare
makes
a
contribution
to
this.
H
J
Oh
I
think
you
know
what
it
wasn't
on:
that's
not
at
all,
but
I
won't
go
back.
Cuz
I
think
it
was
reasonably
self-explanatory,
so
we're
gonna
go
quickly
through
this
presentation.
The
speaker
talked
a
lot
about
the
benefits
of
car
sharing.
I'm,
not
gonna,
reiterate
those
I
did
want
to
say
that
part
of
where
we
get
all
this
information
is.
There
was
a
pretty
comprehensive
survey
done
in
2015
a
number
of
years
after
the
free-floating
car
share.
J
Pilots
had
emerged
in
various
cities
in
North
America
that
was
conducted
by
the
Berkeley
transportation,
sustainability,
Research
Center,
with
over
7,000
participants,
and
they
really
looked
at
the
benefits
of
car
sharing
for
these
individual
folks
and
what
they
were,
what
they
were
seeing.
So
we
believe
and
have
learned
more
and
more
industry-wide,
that
car
sharing
is
really
starting
to
move
the
needle
on
people's
behavior.
J
There's
a
couple
of
models
of
car
sharing
one
is
this
roundtrip
car
sharing
where
people
have
a
parking
space
that's
assigned,
and
they
the
vehicle,
leaves
from
and
returns
back
to
that
exact
parking
space
and
the
one
we're
talking
about
today
is
a
different
model.
It's
called
free-floating
car
share
which
allows
members
to
take
a
one-way
trip,
beginning
in
one
location
and
terminating
in
another.
J
So
today,
we're
here
because
we
were
directed
by
pew
week
in
February
to
come
and
talk
about
a
pilot
and
a
policy
framework
for
free
floating
car
share.
We
brought
a
proposal
forward
in
September
and
then
to
Council
in
January,
and
there
were
a
number
of
concerns
that
were
raised
around
the
area
where
we
would
mount
this
pilot
some
of
the
time
exemption
proposals.
What
were
we
going
to
do
about
compliance
if
the
companies
who
participated
were
not
we're
not
being
true
to
their
conditions?
J
How
are
we
going
to
monitor
and
enforce
and
then
a
question
about
data,
what
the
requirements
were
for
the
companies
to
provide
the
city
with
data
and
how
we
would
share
that
through
through
open
data,
so
I
wanted
just
to
just
talk
real
crisply
about
the
the
changes
that
we
have
made.
So
we
had
heard,
and
in
the
previous
proposal
there
was
an
exemption
from
the
three-hour
time
limit
for
any
area
of
the
city.
J
This
proposal
before
you
today
allows
for
that
only
in
residential
permanent
parking
locations,
as
part
of
the
permit
condition
for
the
area.
Exclusions
wait-listed
streets
for
permit
parking,
which
are
typically
a
110
percent,
subscribed,
were
to
be
excluded
and
the
companies
would
have
to
come
up
with
a
way
of
ensuring
that
parked
cars
could
that
the
car
share
could
not
end
its
trip
on
a
wait-listed
street
through
a
process.
They
call
geofencing
where
they
don't
allow
the
the
trip
to
shut
down
at
the
end,
if
they're
not
parked
in
a
place.
J
That's
part
of
the
permitted
uses
in
this
location
at
in
the
previous
proposal.
We
were
setting
that
condition
at
the
beginning
of
the
pilot.
We
had
been
asked
to
look
for
these
area
exclusions
semi-annually
and
when
those
those
situations
change
and
so
we've
modified
that
to
review
those
area
exclusions
on
a
semi-annual
basis,
and
then
we
have
proposed
an
increase
in
the
timeframe
from
13
months
to
18
months,
so
that
we
can
come
back
to
to
Council
in
June
of
next
year
with
our
with
our
findings
of
the
proposals.
J
The
next
couple
of
maps
talk
about.
This
was
a
pretty
significant
topic
of
discussion
about
streets
where
car
share
pilot
the
permanent
parking
streets
that
the
pilot
would
not
apply.
This
first
map
is
those
wait-listed
streets,
as
we
described
so
in
this
area.
Participants
would
not
be
able
to
terminate
a
trip
in
a
wait-listed
area
that
would
exclude
about
7700
parking
spots
from
existing
permitted
areas.
Okay,
we
also
were
asked
to
look
at
what
this
would.
J
What
would
be
restricted
if
we
had
those
streets
that
were
at
95
percent
capacity
and
that
would
exclude
about
9900
spots
in
those
permit
parking
areas?
And
then,
lastly,
what
would
it
look
like
if
we
had
90
persists
that
were
at
90
percent
capacity
were
no
longer
allowed
to
be
part
of
the
pilot,
and
that
would
exclude
about
17,000
parking
spots
from
the
pilot.
We
actually
we're
not
recommending
this
proposal,
because
we
think
it
would
be
restrictive
enough
that
it
would
not
make
the
pilot
attractive
for
companies
to
participate
in.
J
J
A
couple
of
other
pieces
are
compliance
standards
so,
prior
to
the
pilot,
we
established
criteria
to
be
able
to
terminate
the
permits
if
a
particular
company
was
being
non-compliant,
and
so
we
would
continue
to
develop
those
those
requirements
and
ensure
that
permit
issuance
also
had
clear
and
discreet
rules
about
termination.
Should
the
company
not
be
compliant
either
terminating,
some
or
all
of
those
permits
and
then
finally,
taking
data
collected
from
the
pilot
and
making
sure
that
it
was
available
on
the
city's
open
data
catalog,
where
possible.
J
Okay,
get
to
next
steps
here
fees,
we
are
still
proposing
a
tier
2
fee,
as
we
did
previously,
which
would
we've
looked
at
a
lot
of
other
jurisdictions
where
car
sharing
exists
in
North
America,
and
we
believe
this
is
a
reasonable
fee
for
us
to
test
out
the
pilot
it's
already
within
our
fee
bylaw.
So
if
we
had
to
make
any
modifications
to
that,
fiend
we'd
have
to
go
back
to
the
fee
and
bylaw
process.
J
So
we
believe
this
is
a
fair
fee
and
that's
would
it
generate
about
a
million
dollars
in
revenue
if
we
were
to
move
forward
and
then
the
data
that
we
will
collect
about
complaints
and
compliance,
we
would
conduct
a
survey
about
travel
behavior
about
vehicle
ownership
and
car
share
use,
so
that
we
couldn't
help
to
inform
the
council's
decision
making
about
a
formal
policy
moving
forward
at
the
conclusion
of
the
pilot
and
I'm
gonna.
Let
us
deliberate!
A
D
K
You're,
the
chair,
the
pilot
would
be
to
allow
the
wait,
the
free
floating
car
sure
permits
to
be
in
any
residential
parking
permit
area.
So
that
is
beyond
the
existing
car2go
service
area.
But
we
anticipate
that
most
companies
interested
in
this
market
would
be
approximately
in
the
the
car
to
go
service
area,
at
least
for
the
foreseeable
future
of
the
time
of
the
pilot.
Because
that's
what
the
demand
for
this
kind
of
service
generally
is,
but
it
would
be
applicable
if
you
want
to
go
back
to
the
map.
But.
K
K
G
D
K
Yes,
any
company
come
in
and
shoes,
because
what
we're
regulating
here
is
about
the
curbside
space,
and
so
our
regulation
is
about
are
they
allowed
to
park
in
in
a
permit
parking
zone?
A
company
could
come
in
and
only
park
in
private
Lots
as
well,
and
so
our
regulation
is
about
the
curbside
space,
and
so
this
outside.
D
K
Is
the
the
map
from
the
end
of
the
last
term
that
shows
the
the
only
ones
that
are
outside
of
the
existing
cargo
service
area?
Is
this
down
here,
which
is
less
than
95
percent
know
if
you
can
see
where
I'm
pointing
and
this
zone
here,
which
is
less
than
95
percent,
there
is
one
zone
higher
than
95
percent,
where
this.
I
Can
I
just
can
I
just
step
in
here?
The
counter,
your
your
ward
is
actually
not
represented
here.
It
is,
it
is
just
north
and
the
bottom
portion
of
your
Ward
does
have
streets
that
have
power
parking,
neighboring
ones
may
be
rewards
as
well,
so
so
permit
parking
actually
extends
as
far
as
north
as
the
one.
K
J
Similar
to
what
we
the
same
concept
of
what
we
do
with
an
individual
permit
holder
for
the
permit
parking,
we
would.
We
would
have
a
permit
requirement
for
any
company
coming
in
through
this
pilot.
That
would
articulate
the
terms
that
they
under
which
they
would
operate,
and
so
that
would
include
the
service
area
and
that
would
include
the
number
of
cars
or
vehicles
that
they
would
have
in
their
operation,
as
well
as
a
number
of
conditions
around
compliance
in
terms
of
service
etc.
J
L
It's
thank
you
I'm,
sorry,
I
I,
just
missed
the
presentation
and
I
have
read
the
report
quickly,
but
what
I
still
am
not
clear
about
and
I
just
want
to
confirm.
The
original
proposal
was
going
to
allow
the
free
floating
cars
to
park
in
areas
that
currently
did
not
have
permit
parking.
So
has
that
been
changed
in
this
proposal?
Has.
K
L
You
were
measuring
the
capacity
available
within
particular
zones.
Are
you
using
a
zone
approach
or
a
Street
approach
to
how
you
measure
the
waitlist
and
capacity,
because
the
reports
we
get
at
community
council
used
to
be
by
zone
and
then
they
started
to
be
by
Street?
So
could
you
clarify
that
through.
K
Coach
would
be
both
I'll
start
and
then,
if
Vince
wants
to
add
in
any
further
detail
from
the
parking
perspective,
but
the
zones
which
I
think
is
for
the
most
of
permit
parking,
is
zone
based,
and
that
is
a
that
capacity
of
wait-listed
is
a
hundred
and
ten
percent
threshold.
When
it's
a
street
specific
parking
permit
area,
then
it's
a
100
percent
Vince.
Did
you
have
anything
to
add
to
that?
K
L
L
J
As
you
know,
it
is
already
putting
pressure
on
certain
streets
where
there
is
permit
parking,
and
we,
you
know
last
time,
talked
about
the
violations
that
had
happened
and
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
some
of
those
have
been
resolved
over
time
since
we
met
last
but
having
a
policy
and
being
able
to
test
it
against
our
permit
parking
I
think
is
absolutely
necessary
in
order
to
get
something.
That's
going
to
work
for
all
of
these
unique
situations
and
I.
K
Expectation
is
that
the
companies
would
be
proactively
monitoring
the
location
of
the
vehicles
and,
quite
frankly,
that
is
in
the
interest
of
the
company
to
make
sure
that
those
vehicles
are
moving
to
a
place
where
they
can
be
used
by
its
another
member.
If
they're
not
in
an
active
place
of
use.
But
the
requirement
is
in
the
event
of
a
complaint,
they
would
need
to
move
that
vehicle
within
two
hours
and.
L
J
Would
certainly
be
something
we'd
want
to
to
look
into,
but
in
terms
of
the
company
being
able
to
resolve
their
own
issues
with
having
multiple
cars
ganged
up
on
various
streets
and
having
an
impact
on
that
particular
street
or
block
those
are
the
ones
that
that
we
would
focus
on
and
clustering
in
this
case,
in
some
cities
is
more
multiple
cars,
two
or
three
or
more.
We
tried
to
keep
that
at
a
pretty
tight
number
so
that
we
could
ensure
that
we
were
able
to
monitor
and
have
the
companies
monitor
it
as
well.
A
B
We're
still,
let's
have
a
couple
questions:
I
did
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
little
bit
about
attachment
6,
which
is
the
parking
infractions
and
associated
fines.
So
this
says
that
the
compliance
or
the
percentage
of
fines
and
penalties
collected
car2go
is
34.4%,
which
stands
out
from
the
others.
You
know
wondered
if
staff
could
through
your
chair.
Could
it
provide
a
comment
on
what's
different
here
or
are
these
all
contested
or
they're
just
slow
and
getting
payment?
That
concerns
me.
M
K
The
chair
there
was
a
request
of
staff
to
provide
this
information
on
the
floor
of
council.
So
if
supplementary
report
was
created
with
these,
with
these
stats,
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
two
things
about
them,
while
I
answer
your
question,
counselor
one
is
that
the
stats
related
to
enterprise
those
were
related
to
enterprise
car
share,
as
well
as
Enterprise
rent-a-car.
K
So
they
over-represented
the
amount
of
infractions
associated
with
car
sharing
use,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear,
and
we
have
some
some
content
about
that
in
in
the
report
attachment
that's
before
you.
With
regards
to
the
discrepancy
for
the
company,
that's
currently
operating
free
floating
car
share
card
ago,
we
asked
for
their
comments
on
the
the
rate
of
payment
rate
of
collection
being
so
low.
They
did
not
provide
comment
other
than
to
say
that
the
the
process
of
collection
can
take
up
to
two
years,
which
is
what
Revenue
Services
has
advised
us
of.
K
B
To
be
clear,
fines
outstanding
are
things
that
are
disputed
in
the
court
or
tickets
that
have
blown
away.
These
are
things
that
the
city
has
provided
notice
to
the
car
share
company,
that
it
is
old
and
I,
guess
short
of
sending
a
collection
agency
or
a
bailiff
or
whatever.
We
do
we're
waiting
for
that
money
to
be
sent
to
us
through.
K
The
chair,
certainly
the
collection
process-
involves
notifying
the
company
where
the
the
ticket
was
incurred,
so
that
can
be
understood
to
be
the
case
for
all
of
these
tickets,
especially
because
these
are
referred
to
for
the
2017
year.
There's
nothing
as
recent
as
eighteen
before
you.
The
reason
for
the
the
not
payment
has
not
been
provided
to
us.
I
wanted.
B
B
I'll
use
the
word
stored
and
I'll
explain
why
aren't
restored
on
areas
that
have
a
high
subscription
rate,
because
that
would
annoy
the
residents.
So
the
one
company
that
you've
dealt
with
I
think
it
is
car2go
has
talked
about
implementing
geofencing
and
I
wondered
if
you
could
explain
to
the
committee
how
you
envision
that
to
work
and
whether
or
not
the
other
companies
are
going
to
follow
suit
with
something
equal.
K
Through
the
chair,
yes,
so
the
the
geofencing
is
about
the
way
that
the
app
actually
enables
you
to
start
a
trip
with
one
of
these
free
floating
cars
for
vehicles
and
end
a
trip,
and
it's
it's
not
something
new.
It's
something
that
they
do
have
in
place
where
they
don't
allow
people
to
end
a
trip
on
a
street
that
has
rush
hour
non
no
parking,
for
example.
So
on
Queen,
Street
they're,
not
able
to
end
a
trip
as
an
example,
because
it
would
they
would
be
incurring
fines
as
a
result
of
parking
on
that
street.
K
So
what
it
means
is
that
when
you're
in
the
app
to
start
a
trip
use
in
with
a
car,
you
would
be
starting
a
trip
using
the
app
you're,
not
sort
of
starting
the
car
with
the
keys
is
you're
getting
you're
getting
access
to
the
car
via
the
app
in
order
to
park
the
car.
You
need
to
end
your
trip
in
the
app
if
you're,
in
a
location
where
you
cannot
end
a
trip
because
of
the
geofencing
that's
been
set
up,
the
app
will
not
let
you
end
a
trip.
K
B
The
difference
being
is
that
you
know
if
I've
rented
the
car
I
can
park
it
anywhere.
I
can
legally
park
it,
but
the
company
stores
unrented
cars
in
places
on
the
street
the
geofencing
would
have
would
they
did
not
store
the
car
in
in
one
of
the
hotspots?
Let's
call
it
where
there's
a
high
subscription.
That's.
K
B
As
a
policy
perspective,
we
are
looking
at
defining
those
areas,
those
geofences
as
areas
of
high
subscription
rate,
okay
right
yeah,
and
they
was
my
last
question.
But
but
in
theory
and
in
practice
the
technology
will
allow
us
to
specify
any
geographic
area
as
a
prohibited
area
and
they
can
set
up
their
geofence
and
they
can
adjust
their
geofence
as
time
goes
on,
to
make
sure
that
rides,
can't
start
and
stop
and
the
places
that
we
feel
are
inappropriate.
You're.
K
M
M
M
I
get
it
so.
Basically,
the
majority
are
permanent
parking
areas,
there's
very
few
street
based
in
Toronto
and
East
York,
where
the
majority
of
these
cars
will
Beach
so
currently
at
ninety
percent
capacity,
if
you're
applying
for
a
permit
overnight,
because
you've
had
too
much
to
drink
or
your
mother-in-law
is
coming
for
Friday
night
and
it's
at
90
percent,
you
can't
you
can't
you're
not
given
a
permit
right,
you're
excluded,
correct.
I
M
J
We
were
asked
to
look
at
both
90
and
95,
and
so
we've
come
back
just
to
indicate
that
the
the
reduction
in
on-street
spaces
for
the
pilot
company
would
be
reduced
significantly
at
90
percent,
and
we
just
wanted
to
show
what
that
was
and
what
it
would
look
like.
So
it
would
be
17,000
fewer
parking
spaces,
as
you
mentioned,
and
in
the
95
percent
threshold
it
would
be
9900
parking
spots
that
would
be
excluded
from
the
pilot
area
to.
M
M
J
K
Through
the
chair,
we
wouldn't
be
hiring
new
staff
to
manage
this
program.
The
complaints
would
be
through
the
301
system
and
directed
to
the
companies
as
appropriate.
We
understand
that
the
company
that
is
operating
free-floating
CarShare
has
approximately
50
employees
that
manage
the
the
redistribution
of
vehicles,
so
we
would
also
expect
them
to
be
proactive
in
that
redistribution
expect.
M
J
This
thing
not
clear
at
this
point
at
this
point,
the
part
of
the
reason
that
we
are
proposing
a
pilot
at
all
is
because
we
understand
that
there's
more,
we
need
to
learn
about
this
before
we
would
make
it
a
policy,
and
that
would
be
including
how
much
staff
we
need
to
monitor
so
coming
back.
Certainly
a
midpoint
of
the
pilot
with
some
understanding
of
that
we
certainly
could
move
forward
to
address
any
staffing
shortages.
Should
there
be
challenges
there
so.
M
The
other
issue
that
I
just
want
to
take
up
is
that
of
areas
and
streets
that
don't
have
permits
that
are
open
and
available.
Many
of
them
are
Cheerios
or
minor,
arterials
and
collectors,
and
that
we
have
a
report
coming.
Are
you
willing
to
consider?
Would
you
recommend
a
hybrid
that
would
allow
some
free
floating
have
dedicated
designated
spots
that
aren't
currently
under
a
permit
system,
so
everybody
would
think
that
would
be
fair
and
other
whatever
else
we
can
find.
M
As
far
as
developments
are
concerned,
that
people
have
access
to
car
share
from
the
street,
this
seems
to
be
a
very
just
in
a
permit
parking
area,
and
we
haven't
looked
at
all
the
other
tools
that
we
have
at
our
disposal
with
planning
and
even
with
the
the
permit
parking
plan.
That's
coming
back
so
have
you
contemplated
that
as
a
hybrid
or
is
it
just
this
straight-up
model
that
you're
bringing
forward
so.
J
M
J
A
Okay,
I
I
have
a
couple
questions
so
how
many
times
has
this
been
to
through?
This
is
the
system?
Is
this
the
third
report
I'm
forgetting
now?
This
is
the
third
time
third
time
and
it's
just
a
pop.
It's
a
pot.
It's
simply
a
pilot
to
test
the
waters,
correct,
correct
we're
not
we're
not
rolling
this
out.
A
J
We
have
noted
reduced
greenhouse
gases
and
emissions
from
reduced
driving
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
an
increase,
walking,
cycling
and
transit
use
and
then
also
33%
of
the
households
in
Toronto.
We
see
work,
actually
don't
own
a
vehicle
and
so
from
an
equity
perspective,
providing
those
choices
and
options
to
those
in
the
city
who
don't
actually
own
a
vehicle
for
the
odd
time
that
they
may
need
to
drive.
J
A
That's
a
great
summary,
so
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is.
This
is
a
trend,
that's
happening
globally
and
we
need
to
similar
to
uber
figure
out
a
proactive
way
to
address
it
and
handle
it,
manage
it
in
the
city
and
the
best
problem.
The
way
you're
advising
given
your
experience
is
to
pilot
this.
With
all
these
conditions.
You've
you've
really
done
a
great
job
with
your
your
slide
deck,
covering
off
all
the
conditions,
things
that
councillors
were
concerned
about
when
it
went
to
City
Council
in
January
through.
J
You
that
is
absolutely
our
intention,
and
it
is
complicated
and
I
understand
why
we've
kind
of
had
to
take
a
couple
of
hits
at
this.
In
order
to
try
to
clarify
some
of
the
confusing
pieces.
We
do
have
quite
a
unique
and
robust
and
well-loved
permit
parking
program,
and
part
of
it
is
trying
to
integrate
this
with
that
existing
program.
And
so
we
believe
this
proposal
for
council
to
consider
at
this
point
helps
to
give
a
path
forward
on
that
and.
A
And
just
it's
it's
happening
so
it's
best
to
figure
out
a
way
to
embrace
it
and
help
facilitate
it.
You
know
taking
in
mind
all
the
concerns
that
councillors
have
I
certainly
understand
their
apprehension,
but
you
know,
if
you
look
at
that
demographic
I
don't
know
20s
to
30s
there
in
twenty
to
thirty
five,
maybe
even
forty
range
a
lot
of
those
how
those
households
don't
have
vehicles
period,
absolutely.
J
And
there's
also
people
who
have
a
child
who
becomes
driving
age
but
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
afford
a
car
or
have
a
second
car
and
there's
we're
also
seeing
groups
of
people
who
are
seniors
who
decide.
They
don't
want
to
have
a
car,
but
they
want
to
have
access
to
a
vehicle
from
time
to
time
or
maybe
they've
moved
in
to
a
condo
downtown
and
there's
no
available
parking.
So
it's
quite
a
range
of
people
who
take
advantage
of
this
service
and
I
I.
J
A
The
trend
of
again
I'm
just
going
to
emphasize
this,
these
young
people
I'll
just
call
them
lump
them
in
those
young
people.
They
tend
not
to
be
purchasing
cars
because
of
the
financial
impacts,
but
also
that's
just
not
there.
It's
not
really
something
they'd
seem
to
do.
I
mean
I,
can
think
of
any
young
person.
I
know
that
lives
in
Toronto
and
none
of
them
have
cars.
A
J
Correct
and
as
the
population
grows
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations,
certainly
and
council
chambers
around
the
importance
of
increasing
the
ability
and
access
to
transit,
walking
and
cycling
as
well
and
making
sure
that
infrastructure
is
available
and
safe.
And
so
a
lot
of
the
people
that
you
are
describing
I
believe
take
advantage
of
all
of
those
options
to
get
around
and
occasionally
they
want
a
car
to
be
able
to
get
around.
And
this
helps
to
fill
that
gap
for
them.
Multimodal.
A
M
I'm
just
going
to
say,
I'm
finding
it
still
very
unfair
for
the
95
and
90%
and
when
it
gets
to
council
I
won't
be
supporting
that
I've.
Had
somebody
come
from
out
of
town
with
someone
very
sick
who
needed
to
go
into
toronto
general
and
drove
them
to
toronto,
they
can't
get
a
permit
to
park
overnight
on
the
street
when
they're
staying
with
me,
because
it's
at
90%
and
not
allowed
to
have
a
permit.
M
So
it
seems
very
strange
that
somebody
coming
in
or
when
this
first
started
for
overnight
permits
and
having
overnight
airs
and
weekenders.
Someone
had
called
me
that
they
just
had
a
baby
and
their
mother
had
to
come
into
town
and
she
couldn't
get
a
permit.
She
had
to
come
for
the
weekend
and
I
think
it's
very
unfair.
That
residents
are
getting
blocked
out
of
getting
a
permit
for
whatever
reason
at
90%
and
will
have
a
car
share
at
95.
So
whatever
we
peg
as
the
number
it
has
to
be
for
everybody.
M
I
can't
see
that
we
can
have
two
separate
policies
and
by
putting
it
in
95,
we're
just
5%
above
those
people
that
need
to.
If
your
son
or
daughter
wants
to
come
over
or
stay
or
or
anybody
wants
to
come
and
stay
your
place,
they
can't
I,
don't
know
about
other
wards,
but
I
hear
about
this.
A
lot
don't
have
anywhere.
If
you've
had
a
party
and
somebody
doesn't
want
to
drive
home,
you
can't
get
a
permit
to
stay
over.
That's
the
first
thing.
M
Second
I
was
very
concerned
when
all
of
these
companies
moved
out
of
green
pea,
lots
for
over
basically
for
overnight
they're
available
they're
everywhere,
we've
paid
for
them
already,
and
some
of
them
aren't
always
full.
So
knowing
that
you
can
always
go
there,
you
can
check
and
see.
How
many
are
there
I
think.
That's
a
useful
thing
to
have.
I
also
believe
that
we
should
be
looking
at
the
streets
that
we've
identified
in
lots
of
places
that
actually
don't
have
permit
parking.
M
Yet
so
there's
nobody
that
gets
to
park
there
on
a
long-term
basis
and
I
know
which
ones
they
are
in
my
ward
and
I.
Don't
think
we
should
be
naive
that
where
people
are
going
to
want
to
park
is
close
to
restaurants,
music,
they're
not
going
to
want
to
park
up
unless
you're
going
in
a
ravine,
but
they're
going
to
park
near
the
big
arterioles,
where
there's
lots
of
Commerce
and
a
lot
going
on,
and
we
have
residential
right
beside
those
streets.
M
It's
very
it's
a
tremendous
amount
of
pressure,
so
I
think
that
we
have
three
streams
here.
We
have
people
who
need
overnight
permits.
We
have
green
pea
Lots.
We
have
unpermitted
streets
that
we
have
full
authority
over
technically
and
then
we
have
places
where
people
can
go
and
cars
can
turn
over,
so
I
believe
we're
kind
of
on
a
one
track,
and
it's
not
multimodal
enough.
M
If
you
want
to
say
that
councillor
Robinson
is
just
not
multifunctional
enough
and
the
fact
that
these
guys
now
since
since
we
noticed
they
owed
so
much
money,
they've
coughed
up
sixteen
percent
they're
still
at
fifty
percent,
who
does
business
with
people
that
owe
you
that
much
money,
it's
just
beyond
me,
and
anybody
that
thinks
that
the
calls
are
going
to
go
to
three
one
one.
Yes,
they
will,
but
do
you
know
where
else
the
calls
are
going
to
come
your
office,
my
office,
probably
not
anybody
else,
because
they're
not
in
the
pilot
area.
M
They'll
call
you
all.
Have
my
constituents
call
you,
because
you're
on
the
public
works
and
Infrastructure
Committee,
but
it
may
be
a
bit
of
an
avalanche.
They
already
feel
like
they
can't
part.
We
have
a
situation
where
years
ago,
the
city
we
the
City
Council
passed
a
bylaw.
That
said,
if
you're
just
going
to
park
there
for
ten
minutes
and
unload
your
kids
and
your
groceries,
you
shouldn't
get
a
ticket.
The
police
refused
to
enforce
that
or,
if
you're
moving
your
car
from
one
side
to
the
other.
M
You
have
a
grace
period
in
the
morning
from
9:00
to
12:00.
The
police
refused
to
acknowledge
that.
So
there
are
just
a
ton
of
tickets
that
people
get
in
permit
parking
areas
and
to
now
have
on
Reggie
I'm,
going
to
call
it
unregulated
because
they're
so
unregulated,
they
don't
pay
the
money.
They
owe
firms
running
around
without
a
really
clear
structure
where
they
also
have
to
go
in
other
places
in
areas
that
are
going
to
be
very
popular.
M
I
remain
concerned
and
I've
heard
that
I
have
residents
that
want
it
and
I
have
residents
that
are
concerned.
I'm,
not
sure.
We've
hit
hit
the
sweet
spot
yet
with
that
and
having
a
differential
between
those
who
can
live
in
a
house
and
get
an
overnight
permit
for
their
son
or
daughter
and
can't,
and
somebody
who
owes
us
a
lot
of
money
can
have
their
car
sitting
in
front
of
that
same
house
at
95
percent.
I
have
a
big
problem
with
it.
B
What
councillor
Fletcher
just
talked
about
was
to
report
on
a
mechanism
but
withholding
permits
to
vehicle
on
vehicles
for
companies
with
outstanding
fines
or
penalties,
and
simply
to
report
back
on
that
in
the
future.
I
worked
a
lot
with
the
clerk's
and
the
solicitor
to
put
these
together
and,
and
they
have
convinced
me
that
this
is
the
form
that
I
have
to
ask
these
questions,
but
I
think
they're
top
of
mind
of
the
committee.
I'm,
really
glad
that
councillor
Fletcher
has
come
and
talked
because
it's
a
great
illustration
of
that.
B
Where
different
minds
are
on
this
particular
issue
and
I'll
also
take
a
moment
to
thank
staff
because
they
worked
really
hard
on
something
to
set
the
table
for
what
I
think
is
going
to
be
quite
the
debate
at
Council
because
of
the
different
viewpoints.
I
believe
these
motions
will
give
us
some
tools
to
try
to
deal
with
those
matters.
B
I,
don't
know
where
everyone
is
on
the
question
on
what
the
cutoff
threshold
is
I
know,
the
staff
advice
is
they've
recommended
areas
that
are
wait-listed
I,
don't
believe
they
made
a
recommendation
on
the
95
percent
threshold,
but
they
did
recommend
against
the
90
percent
threshold
and
I'm
going
to
take
it
that
they
know
more
about
the
dynamics
of
the
car
share
companies
than
I
do
so.
Taking
that
choice
has
an
implication
and
council
will
make
its
choice,
but
I
also
know
from
my
days
on
and
meetings
a
Community
Council.
B
So
I
feel
strongly
that
we're
gonna
about
to
embark
on
an
18-month
pilot
project
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
there
was
a
way
that
the
community
councils
could
deal
with
some
of
the
very
acute
flash
issues
as
they
come
up
and
if
there's
a
way
to
build
in
a
mechanism
to
tweak
this
slightly
I.
Think
that
would
be
very
helpful
and
I
think
it
might
bring
over
some
councillors.
B
That
may
have
some
reservations
or
misgivings
on
this
about
a
particular
issue
or
to
maybe
bring
them
into
a
collective
consensus
on
something
that
we
can
do
to
try
to
make
the
city
better.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
these
mechanisms
will
work.
But
perhaps
there
may
be
a
way
to
be
found
in
consultation
with
the
solicitor
who
had
some
ideas
about
processes
around
this
and
then
the
last
I.
A
Any
other
speakers,
I'm
just
gonna,
place
a
motion
on
behalf
of
staff,
so
if
the
clerk
could
put
it
up
on
the
screen,
this
is
on
behalf
of
the
city
solicitor,
really
to
introduce
the
necessary
bills
to
give
effect
to
council's
decision
and
authorize
the
city
solicitor
to
make
any
necessary
clarifications.
Refinements,
minor
modifications,
technical
amendments
or
bylaw
amendments
as
may
be
identified
by
the
city
solicitor
in
order
to
give
effect
to
the
reasonable
operation
of
the
free-floating
car
share
pilots.
A
A
A
This
is
the
exception
of
areas
at
or
above
95
percent
subscription
rate.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
that
carries
and
the
third
one
is
the
feasibility
of
the
permits
and
then
the
penalty,
notices
and
associated
penalties,
etc.
All
those
in
favor
that
carries
as
well.
Then
we
have
this
one
from
the
legal
team,
all
those
in
favor
that
carries
and
then
adopt
item
as
amended.
All
those
in
favor
carries
all
right.
So
we
have
one
item
left.
A
It
has
three
speakers:
if
they're
still
here,
20
PW,
28,
point
13,
cycling,
Network
plan
implementation
in
thorn,
cliff
park
and
Flemington,
Park
and
I,
don't
know
if
Kevin's
still
in
the
in
the
room.
Oh
wow,
your
patient,
Kevin,
I'm
impressed
so
I
think
Jeff,
kettles
left
but
I
see.
Hamish
is
still
here
so
Kevin.
You
can
start,
you
have
five
minutes
and
then
Hamish
will
be
next.
Oh.
N
Traffic
calming
measures
or
a
330
kilometre
speed
limit
should
be
implemented
in
terms
of
connectivity.
Integrating
these
proposed
facilities
into
the
broader
citywide
cycling
network
should
be
a
high
priority.
We're
encouraged
to
see
the
future
cycling
facilities
are
planned
between
the
dawn,
River,
Trail
and
Overlea.
Boulevard
along
Overlea
Boulevard
between
thorn,
cliff
Park,
Drive
and
Gateway
Boulevard,
and
a
long
Ferrand
Drive.
N
These
additions
would
unlock
greater
access
to
and
from
the
many
schools,
shopping
areas,
places
of
worship
and
other
destinations
in
these
busy
neighborhoods
and
would
connect
to
the
planned
bicycle
lanes
on
allow
along
Eglinton
Avenue
east
cycle.
Toronto
is
aware
that
the
overly
bridge
is
currently
under
study
for
deck
replacement.
This
is
an
exciting
opportunity
for
cycling
in
these
neighborhoods,
as
we
are
hopeful
that
a
widening
of
this
bridge
deck
will
make
it
possible
to
include
protected
bike
lanes
on
the
bridge
in
the
near
future.
N
In
addition
to
our
support
for
the
recommendations
before
you
today,
we
see
bike
lanes
along
Overlea
Boulevard
as
the
highest
priority
for
cycling
connections
in
these
neighborhoods
overlay
Boulevard
will
need
investment,
but
it's
a
critical
link
for
cycling
in
these
into
neighborhoods.
We
look
forward
to
seeing
what's
possible
there
safe
and
properly
integrated
bicycle
infrastructure
in
Flemington,
Park
and
thorn
Cliff
Park
will
provide
better
transportation
options
for
thousands
of
local
residents.
This
will
encourage
more
people
to
cycle
for
pleasure
and
for
everyday
trips.
N
A
F
Yes,
this
is
something
it's
nice
to
know
that
we
can
actually
do
something
quick
and
easy
and
cheap.
Relatively
speaking,
the
I
read
the
Tcat
letter
from
Miss
Smith
Lee
and
clearly
there's
been
a
lot
of
process
and
good
involvement.
So
it's
been
filtered
to
a
great
degree
and
that's
wonderful.
It
is
useful
to
have
the
trail
connectivity
and
it's
good
to
have
some
of
the
internal
movement
within
these
areas,
improved
which
probably
some
road
repair
would
help.
F
Too
that's
pretty
standard,
and
certainly,
if
you
look
at
the
bike
map,
it's
kind
of
isolated
and
not
really
that
functional
right
now
and
that's
one
of
the
big
things
that
was
hinted
at
in
Miss.
Smith
Lee's
point.
Is
that
a
letter
that
really
we
need
to
be
focusing
on
the
connectivity?
So
when
we
do
that
and
I'm
such
an
old
person
I
rely
on
paper,
and
this
is
the
2001
bike
plan
when
we
rely
on
paper
and
look
at
the
paper,
o-over
Lee
was
supposed
to
have
bike
lanes
now.
F
Normally,
as
you
know,
I
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
more
obsessed
about
subway
relief,
but
for
the
price
of
paint
along
blue
or
a
Danforth,
and
that's
also
taking
forever
to
get
very
little
done,
particularly
that
little
segment
there
is
really
key
and
important.
But
here
we
are
overly
that's
supposed
to
have
bike
lanes
by
now
what
the
heck
happened
and
I'm
sorry.
You
might
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
good
is
being
done
here
and
something's
being
done,
but
gosh
darn.
It's
not
really
that
hard
to
see
why
the
ice
caps
are
melting.
F
How
difficult
is
it
to
put
in
some
bike
lanes?
Sometimes
it's
been
16
odd
years,
since
this
was
done.
For
me,
the
really
important
section
is
the
bit
of
Bloor
Street
East
between
Sherbourne
and
Church,
because
that
subway
relief
for
the
price
of
paint
and
a
little
bit
of
Road
repair
again.
So
you
know
yes,
okay,
great
there's,
two
hundred
thousand
bucks,
100
thousand
the
federal
level
25,000
instead
to
paint
Bloor,
Street,
East
and
again
at
Subway
relief,
so
I
think
by
not
providing
overly,
which
again
was
mentioned.
F
I
think
raised
in
the
consults
and
Miss
Smith
Lee
suggested
that
that
was
a
gap
by
not
providing
overly
I,
think
you're
setting
yourself
up
for
more
liability,
and
that
is
a
real
important
thing
and
by
being
its
progress,
but
oh
it's
so
slow.
It's
like
how
does
it
take
15
years
to
do
a
little
bit
of
paint
down
there
and
that's
actually
the
stage
1.
Where
is
it
there?
The
stage
remnant
bit
of
the
stage
1
from
the
1992
study?
F
It
takes
so
long
to
get
very
little
done
here
in
this
city
and
I'm,
sorry
that
it's
we're
dominated
this
committee
is
dominated,
and
then
the
city
core
is
dominated
by
the
more
suburban
car
driving
people
with
some
respect,
they're,
very
helpful
and
stuff,
but
I
think
if
the
City
of
Toronto
had
been
allowed
to
do
things
by
themselves,
we
would
have
the
connectivity
in
the
core.
We
wouldn't
have
the
patchwork.
We
wouldn't
have
the
not
work
which
is
sometimes
is
it's
been
better
in
recent
years?
Thank
you
very
much.
F
We've
we've
made
some
real
strides
with
Richmond
Adelaide,
another
place
other
other
things,
but
we
need
that
connectivity
and
to
go
a
little
bit
further,
along
with
the
federal
money
they're
trying
to
greenwash
themselves
and
by
throwing
money
at
things
to
make,
make
try
and
make
make
them
look.
Green
and
stuff
and
transport
leads
or
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
the
way
and
we're
not
we're
really
behind
we're
bad
we're.
F
Really
bad
and
Toronto
has
an
especially
strong
liability,
I
think
because
of
something
called
the
Toronto
target,
which
was
arising
from
the
changing
atmosphere
conference
from
1989,
where
we
were
supposed
to
have
a
20%
reduction
of
greenhouse
gas
II
of
1990
levels
by
2005.
Well,
we
kinda
didn't
get
to
that
point.
I
think.
Maybe
we
led
the
conservative
government
and
the
federal
government
and
sort
of
knocking
back
the
targets
a
little
bit,
pushing
them
out
to
the
future
weakening,
etc.
So,
even
the
commitment
to
Paris
that
mr.
F
judo
has
given
it's
really
pretty
it's
not
okay,
so
in
terms
of
our
overall
liabilities,
I
think
there's
really
severe
climate
liability
and
that
involves
northern
European
countries,
not
merely
island
states,
because
the
the
the
we
know
that
there's
a
climate
crises
and
what
are
we
doing
about
it?
Not
so
much.
F
We've
got
to
do
more
things
and
be
sensible
and
speaking
of
doing
more
things
and
being
a
bit
more
aggressive
to
provide
connectivity
if
we
had
the
same
attitude
towards
connectivity
of
Ferncliff
area
as
we
do
with
spending
money
out
in
Scarborough
we'd,
actually
like
connect
the
two
parts
of
st.
Clair,
Avenue
East,
maybe
starting
with
the
section
there.
Thank
you
thank.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
to
the
committee
members
for
staying
this
long.
The
can
always
depend
on
these
four
people
or
three.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
till
the
end.
I
think
it's
councillor
Lee's
last
pubic
meeting.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
service
and
good
work
and
commitment
to
this
yeah.
Well,
you're
you're
really
difficult
compared
to
your
neighbors.
There
you're
looking
pretty
good
compared
to
you.