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Toronto and East York Community Council, meeting 33, June 6, 2018 - Part 1 of 2
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Like to invite everyone to take a seat, it's time for us to start this meeting.

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Thank you. Everyone and good morning welcome to meeting number 33 of the trout and East Shore Community Council.

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The chair and members of Community Council gratefully acknowledged that the Tron East Shore community council meets on the traditional territories of the Mississauga's of the new credit First Nations, the holy Shawnee. The here on, went at and home to many diverse indigenous communities. I'd like to ask if there are any declarations of interest under the municipal conflict of interest Act, seeing none can I. Please have a mover to confirm the minutes of May 2 to 2018 councillor Crecy, all those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you.

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We are going to begin our meeting on page 78 on the golden rod sheets.

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Starting on page 78, te 33.3 9 appointments to business improvement area boards of management. Yes,.

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If I could I have a technical amendment, we were sent some names from the West Queen West BIA to be removed, add to add some names from the West Queen West BIA we're having a difficulty a difficult time reaching quorum. Okay,.

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Members the motion is on the screen, all those in favor any opposed item at any item as a item as amended any opposed that carries. Thank you.

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We are gonna, add new business a little bit later. Let's just go through this portion. First, this will be a fairly long meeting, but not as long as next meeting TTE 33.4 0 proposed official naming of a future Park at Bathurst, Street and Fort York Boulevard for 20 I. Think.

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You're not gonna move staff recommendations and, if I could make a comment, this is to change the name of what is to become. Originally. It was the mouth of the creek park immediately north of the Fort York library.

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We are changing the name with staff support to lower garrison Creek Park to connect upper garrison Creek to the lower and I just want to note in making this and bringing this forward that Steven Otto recently departed, championed this initiative and the area for decades and I'm only sad that we weren't able to get this done before his untimely passing. Thank.

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You hear hear all those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you, te 33.4, one assigning the ceremonial name, Barbara Turnbull way to Oak Hall, Lane or 28th thanks.

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Madam chair, before I move staff recommendations I'd like to take a minute to note the contributions of this remarkable woman after being paralyzed from the neck down as a teenager by a shooting in 1983 Barbara went on to study journalism joined the Toronto Star as a reporter and published two books on living with quadriplegia. She created a foundation that has raised significant funds in support of leading-edge research to solving spinal cord injuries in 2015. Barbara was posthumously invested as a member of the Order of Canada Barbara was a longtime st.

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Lawrence neighborhood residents of 35 Church Street and her.

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Unit overlooked Oak, Hall Lane. This.

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Lane runs along the Toronto sculpture garden, which is about to relaunch its programming on Thursday Barbara was a local activist as well and lent her expertise that the Bercy Park redesigned to ensure it was a space to be enjoyed by all the ceremonial naming is a fitting tribute to a person who lived a.

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Powerful life, while living with a disability. Thank you thank.

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You very much councillor all those in favor any opposed that carries te 33.4 to lower young public realm concept plan final report, 428 thank.

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You, madam chair I'll, move approval staff recommendations.

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Any opposed carried. Thank you te. Thirty three point: four: three: Portland's interim control, bylaws extension, final report, Ward 30,.

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Moving a staff recommendation.

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Counselor has moved staff recommendations, all those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you. Te 33.4 for George Street, revitalization, streetscaping plan war, 27 I'd like to hold this item down. I know that I'm still working on a motion with staff. So we'll come back to that.

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Te 30 3.45 assumption of services, Bridgepoint health subdivision registered plans, 66m two four: six: eight ward, 30 okay, hold that. Yes, that is held near named te 33.4, 611, 221, new york, ville, a venue and 16 to 18 Cumberland, Street official plan amendment zoning amendment and rental housing demolition application. Preliminary report were 27. I would like to move to staff the staff recommendations.

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Okay, oh I, see okay, thank you, I'd like to move expanded notification area and combat and accommodations for sign language interpretation as well as child care, as needed. I thought I thought we had made a deal standard, not yeah. Okay, all those in favor of the motion before you any opposed item as amended any opposed that carries. Thank you very much te 33.4 7:30 Bay Street and 50 Harbor Street zoning amendment application. Preliminary report, 428 expanding.

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Chair I'd like to move approval staff.

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Recommendations: okay, all those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you very much te 33.4 8 Gerard Carlisle planning, study city, initiated official plan amendment preliminary report; thirty, okay, that's held te; thirty, three point: four: nine residential on street electric vehicle charging stations, parking amendments, delegated locations, Ward, nineteen, thirty and thirty. Two.

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I'll move the staff recommendations; okay,.

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All those all those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you. Te thirty three point: five: zero residential on street electric vehicle charging stations, parking amendments, non delegated location, Ward, thirty,.

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All those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you. Te. Thirty, three point: five: one: construction staging area: ninety nine Atlantic, Avenue, Ward, nineteen.

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I'd like to send this item to Council without recommendation, I just haven't, had an opportunity to go over it with staff as closely as I'd like this is a really significant closure in Liberty Village. Okay, that's all right!

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Thank you. Motion.

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On the floor to move without Rex, all those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you t thirty. Three point: five: two construction staging area, public laneway, ninety line, Atlantic Avenue, Ward 19, thank.

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You very much I'm happy to adopt staff recommendations on this item. It's the same construction site, but it's off the street, it's in an alleyway north that doesn't involve any other properties. Okay,.

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All those in favor any opposed Kerry. Thank you. T. Thirty, three point: five: three: construction: staging area: fifteen to thirty five Mercer Street war, twenty I.

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Just like to hold that down for one second to make sure I touch base with all the stakeholders who are here. Okay,.

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And thank you very much. The clerk also just alerted me that we also have a deputy tenth. Oh, we do yes, okay and 33 te 33.5 for construction, staging area force, Hill, Road, 200, st. Clair, Avenue West for 22 I mean.

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Who defer this for a cycle.

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One-Month deferral; okay: the motion of floor to defer from one cycle all those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you, te 33, 0.55 construction, staging area time extension, 94, Cumberland, Street for 27 I, would simply move the recommendations in the staff report. We're so close to finishing this building, all those in favor any opposed that carries. Thank you. Te 33 point: five: six construction, staging area 65 to 89, King, Street, East and 46 Colborne Street war, 28. Thank.

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You, madam chair I'll, be moving staff recommendations. Please the.

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Approval of staff recommendations, okay,.

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All those in favor any opposed carried. Thank you. Te 33.5, 7 installation, removal of on-street, accessible parking spaces made 2018 delegated affecting a number of wards. 18 19, 20, 30, 32, okay, move by councillor Fletcher, all those in favor and opposed carried te 30, 3.58, Road alteration, Leslie Street war, 30, 32 hi. There.

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So I'd like to move staff recommendations good morning. Everyone thank.

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You all those in favor any opposed carried te 33.5, 9, accessible loading zone, Lindsey, Avenue, Ward, 18, approved staff recommendations, all those in favor any opposed. Gary t 33 points, 6-0 commercial loading zone, Dovercourt, Road, Ward 19. Thank.

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You very much I'd like to move the staff recommendations. All.

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Those in favor any opposed carried. Thank you. Te 33 points, 6 1 commercials, loading zone, Victoria, Street, Ward 28. Thank you. I'll be moving staff recommendations, all those in favor any opposed carried te 33.6 school bus loading zone, Palmer, Avenue or 31 move adoption; okay, all those in favor any opposed carried te 33.6, 300, Ward, 31 adoption, all those in favor any opposed carried t 33.6 for the echo with restriction raid lane war 28. Thank you.

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Moving approval staff recommendations, all those in favor any opposed, carry te 33 point six five and meant Dovercourt Road Ward 19.

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Yes, thank you. I'll move the staff recommendations, all.

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Those in favor any opposed carried t 33 point six: six traffic and parking amendments; Baldwin Street between Spadina Avenue and Augusta Avenue war, 20.

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I'm, sorry, could you just repeat that no.

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Problems to e 33 point six: six parking, I'm.

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Gonna defer that for one cycle to July, if that's all right, please.

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One month, deferral all those in favor and he opposed you all better show up to this meeting that carries. Thank you. I know. There's anyways, hang on tight t, 33 point six, seven parking amendments, Brownlow, Avenue war, 22.

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All those in favor any opposed Kerry. Thank you. Te 33 points, six, eight parking amendments, Cheston Road war, 22, all those in favor any opposed. Kerry te 33 points, six, nine parking amendments, Charles, Street, East war, 27 I've, moved the recommendations in the staff report, all those in favor any opposed carried te.

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Come back another.

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Day, one month of rope, mmm all those in favor one month of furrow, any opposed Kerry.

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33.7 one parking amendments, Barrington Avenue between Secord Avenue and Belfort, Avenue Ward 31, move adoption; okay, all those in favor any opposed carried te 33.7 to Dufferin Street from Dundas Street West to blur Street West, extended peak parking peak period, parking regulations, war at 18 I do have.

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A motion: okay,.

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Are there a deputy deputy don'ts, no.

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No deputy tense counselor, let's hold this down for you, because the clerk's don't have your motion yet so, let's just make sure you guys sort that out. Okay, all right, so that's held please counselor bar allows name. Let's move on to t30 3.73 student pickup, drop-off area, Madison, Avenue or 20 with.

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Deep apologies I'm going to defer this for one cycle, the last one I'm deferring for one cycle: okay,.

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All those in favor one month or furrow any opposed, carries te 33.7 for Forest Hill, Village parkland pilot project 422. This is exciting. Counselor mackovic, wrong.

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One, oh sorry,.

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Sorry I was looking in the wrong direction. I know.

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I know I know, I know why you would have assumed it was him yeah.

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Of all I want to acknowledge the Forest Hill Village BIA for doing a good job in consulting the community and moving forward with this initiative, and any of you who want to see counts from a havoc sitting in front of what a bagel out on the street eating bagels and drinking coffee vote. For this motion. Nice.

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Councillor Matt lo I'm gonna, the the clerk's have advised that there's us there's a revised report coming so can you hold.

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We'll come by one defer: I won't deferred for a month. You can make that wonderful speech again later te 30, 3.75 parking, meter, removal, Rowan, wood, Avenue war, 27 I, would adopt it. I've moved to adopt the staff recommendations, all those in favor and he opposed carries. Thank you. The 33.7 six short term parking, Girard Street East war 27 moved the recommendations in the staff report, all those in favor any opposed, carry t30 3.77 traffic safety, sudan avenue war, 22 and.

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With my apologies to my colleagues, I have to defer this for a month because we have the info, but we now need to consult with residents on the street. All.

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Those in favor any opposed that carries t30, 3.78 traffic control signals in pedestrian cross over Lansdowne Avenue between wit, talk Avenue and Bloor Street Westport 18. Thank you and I do have a motion and.

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I ask for your support for the installation of this crosswalk.

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Motion is on the screen, all those in favor any opposed item as amended all those in favor any opposed, Carrie te, 33.7, nine right turn on red prohibitions, Bloor, Street, West and Lansdowne Avenue, or at 18 approve staff recommendations. All those in favor any opposed carries te 33.8, zero traffic control signals, Bay, Street and Grenville Street 427.

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Yes, I'd like to move the alternative recommendations and to prove the installation of the traffic control signals at the intersection of Bay and Grandview, all those in favor any opposed item as amended any pose carried them. Thank, You, T, 33.8, one traffic control signals, Broadview, Avenue and Bridge Point Drive 430.

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With the other one, okay.

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Counselor Thank You T 33.8 to temporary traffic control signal, Leslie, Street, &, Unwin, Avenue, 430, move.

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But note that it's on both sides word 32 and 30, it's for a very, very large project by Toronto water, which will build out the site right. It's building out the south end of the Toronto water site, creating a wetland and there's gonna be so many trucks. There's a temporary signal. So yes, I know.

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Sir, can I ask if your microphone is on yes, I'm, just saying it's that.

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It's no words actually so I just wanted to make sure councillor. Mcmahon was up to date on that, because it's to build out the plant on her side. Thank.

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You very much councillor if I can ask the folks at the back of the room, we're gonna need you to sort of lower the volume of talking. Thank you very much, all those in favor any opposed carried. Thank you. Tea, 33.8 three always stop control down lucky way and how C Street or 20 I'll.

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Move the staff recommendations to adopt and note that it was the 20th anniversary of Dan's untimely passing just this past Sunday and so take a moment to remember our dear friend, Dan.

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Thank you very much councillor, all those in favor, any opposed carried T 33.8 for stock controls, Granby Street, were 27. I would move the recommendations in the staff report, all those in favor any opposed carried T 33.8. Five stop stop control lane way at Glen, Eden, Crescent and Lane away at Gunn field.

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Crescent Ward 31 for thirty-one we're on item number 85, stop control lane way at Glen, Eden Crescent, move adoption; okay, all those in favor any opposed, carry and we're moving on to deferred items from May, 2018 te, 33.86 traffic calming speed, humps reset Avenue, Ward, 18 or indefinitely all those in favor. To never see it's joking. You can bring it back any time any opposed that carries. Thank you very much te 33.8 7 traffic calming speed, humps Nassau Street wore 20 cancer, Krusty I'm.

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Gonna hold that down for one moment: I'm just waiting from some language from transportation staff, okay,.

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Thank you very much te 33.8, a traffic calming speed, hums, Roberts, Street and.

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Again, I'm gonna hold that down for one second, as I get some language. Thank.

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You very much te 33.8 nine traffic calming speed, humps I, think.

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New war 21 thank.

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You, madam madam speaker, madam chair, I'll, move the alternate recommendations.

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Motions on the screen, all those in favor any opposed item as amended any opposed carries. Thank you. Tea. Thirty three point: nine: zero traffic calming speed, hums Neil on Avenue, 429, I'm.

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Gonna be moving the alternate recommendations.

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Motion is on the screen, all those in favor any opposed item as amended, and he opposed carries te. Thirty three point: nine one traffic calming speed, humps McGee, Street, Ward, thirty.

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Yes, I'm going to move the alternate recommendations, but in light of the motions that we passed, eight council, just when our staff- if this these will come to us in a different way, based on your recommendations rather than.

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That's why that's why Jose hilt is so I'll hold mine and then we'll do them all together, I think so so we understand exactly what the new process will be. Okay,.

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So we won't vote on that. Councillor. Fletcher is going to hold that we'll come back to it. Yep.

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Now that everyone's had an opportunity to immerse themselves in the technical amendments of 33.7, for perhaps we could we get to prove that.

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Spread it in detail, it's just the regulatory changes that allow for the park.

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We can then, so why don't we just dial back page 124 te 33.7 for Forest Hill, Village Park, let pilot project the revised report has been circulated. You've all had a chance to read it all, those in favor of the recommendations, the report any opposed carried. Thank you very much. Let's move forward, and now we are te. Thirty three point: nine two traffic calming speed, humps Simpson, Avenue, Ward, thirteen.

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So we are holding that in your name: te 33.9, three traffic-calming speed, hums Hammersmith, Avenue, Ward 32. Thank you very.

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Much I, like Timmy, of alternate recommendations. Please motion.

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Is on the screen, all those in favor any opposed item as amended any opposed carried. Thank you. Te 33.9 for speed. Humps poll results, Crawford Street, Ward 19. Yes,.

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Thank you very much. There is a speaker to the item, but it's item 94. So if there are there any members of the public to here to speak to this item, including Tim, do you hear Tim? You want to identify yourself, okay? Well, unfortunately, then we'll just have to wait until.

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So item number 94 is held for deputies, te 33.9 five Rivertown proposed installation of crosswalk markings bike route, Charles and speed bombs, Ward 30, not.

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Surprisingly, I'm just going to hold this because, since we've done, this world's finest cars has moved in and I know, we've had a conversation about the impact of so many vehicles through the revised River town and having been there last night. I can tell you it's catastrophic, so I would like to review that with staff prior to that's.

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Held in your name, councillor te 33.9, six proposed installation of speed, bumps north first south public Lane, east of Coxwell Avenue between Plains Road and O'connor Drive Ward, 31 I, move adoption, all those in favor any opposed carried T. Thirty. Three point: nine: seven nomination for appointment to a Cecil, Community Centre Board of Management wor, 20 I'm.

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Gonna move the recommendations all.

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Those in favor any opposed carried.

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Te thirty three point: nine eight nominations for appointment to the Apple Grove community, complex Board of Management Ward 32.

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If staff recommendations, please all those in favor note that this will be over in Fletcher's new Ward. Eventually. Thank you very much counselor, all those in favor any opposed. Kerry.

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Thirty, three point: nine nine reopening items to 0 do born Avenue request to extend number parking, bylaw 20, who.

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The recommendations we.

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We need to vote to reopen all those in favor to reopen any opposed, carried counselor havoc, who.

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The recommendations all.

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Those in favor any opposed Kerry. Thank you. Te 33 point: 100 traffic signal investigation on Eglinton, Avenue west, near hilltop, Road war, 21, recommendations.

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Those in favor any opposed carried te 33 point 101, reducing the speed limit on a Chester Road and Heath Street West between Bathurst Street to Spadina, Road war, 21 recommendations.

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Those in favor any opposed carried. We are reopening, there's a request to reopen this item. It's t 30 3.10.

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It's a reopening of item number t 30 point: seven one parking amendments which would Avenue Ward 21 all those opposed. I start all those in favor. Any opposed item is reopened. That's carried and councillor Matt havoc with.

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The recommendations, recommendations.

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And a letter on the floor, all those in favor any opposed carried te 33 point 103, nomination for appointment to the board of directors, Crescent town club, Inc, Ward, 31 I am very pleased to.

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Move the appointment of Cathy policemen to the present town, Community Center Board.

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Of Directors, all those in favor any opposed carried t 33 point 104 endorsement of events for liquor licensing purposes. I will hold that down in case there are some last.

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Okay, we have some new business, we need to add. These are items number te, 33 point, 105 all the way to T point 115 motion to add and expand the gender counselor maillot any opposed Cary. Thank you.

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So that brings us to our first 9:30 item, and so we are now proceeding to te 33.1 permanent closure of the public Lane known as Road a ghilane abutting, the south limit of 65 King, Street, East and east of leader Lane. There are a number of speakers. May I. Please call madam chair. Oh use.

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Me sorry can I'd like to hold this for discussions with the deputies and city staff.

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Not a problem, do we hear the speakers first? Can it be helped.

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Okay, so why don't we hold this down and we'll let the community continue to have their conversation? Maybe we'll have a resolution we're moving to te 33.2 naming of a public Lane south of st. Clair Avenue East, extending between glen eden, crescent and Glenfield crescent. Are there any members of the public here to speak to this matter? Please identify yourself and the clerk will make sure you're added to our speakers list we're on item number T 33.2. If there are no public speakers, this is sitting in Ward 31. How shall we proceed?

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I would like to move.

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Adoption of the staff recommendation and if I could just to acknowledge Jack Christie the longest-serving hydro commissioner in East York's history, and he was also very, very active in all of the sports organizations in not just East York but in Ontario and was the recipient of many many awards. He lived on this street for 40 years. His son still lives there now and he used this laneway frequently while walking his dog and that's been fully supported by his family and the community, and so I'm very pleased to move these recommendations. I.

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Think Thank You councillor, anybody else will like to speak. Seeing none recommendations are be for us all, those in favor any opposed carried. Thank you.

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Okay, there's a request for the volume of speaking to come down to a zero noted. Audible can I, please ask those who want to carry on private conversations, may I invite you outside of the committee room and and when you're ready to come back in come back in okay, so we are now at te.

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33.3, changing lanes the city of Toronto's, review of laneway, Suites city, initiated official plan amendment and zoning amendment. This is a final report. This is affecting all of Toronto East Shore Community Council. There are a number of speakers. I will call you please come to the front of the room for those who've spoken before you will know the process and we welcome you back.

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The first speaker is George Emerson and if there's any other speakers who are very interested in speaking to this item, please identify yourself to the clerk and we will add you to the speaker's list. Okay, are you ready.

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We please have some assistance, I, think, there's a presentation coming.

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Just so we can move things along I just want to let the next speakers know there. Are there orders of speaking so you can be prepared. Our next speaker is Graham Haines and followed by Paul Bedford.

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Okay, norge welcome and the clock is on your left-hand side. You will have five minutes proceed when you're ready, okay,.

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Morning, councilors first I want to say thank you to each and every councillor here for all your hard work, I have a sense of what's involved in your job. I grew up around City Hall politics. This is my mother, Anna Emerson. She managed the mayor's office in Halifax. Many people urged her to run for Halifax, City Council, but mom said I deal with 25 councilors every day, but they have to deal with at least 250 people every day. Who would want that job?

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I know it's hard to please everyone, but today I've got an easy one for you, because, as a philosopher once said, if mama ain't happy ain't, nobody happy you can make some mamas happy today. I'm gonna do shoot another one. This is my mother-in-law. My family's matriarch, mrs. Daphne mullings she's.

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In her 90th year she came to Parkdale in 1967, one of the first non-white registered nurses in Canada, an RN for Sick Kids and for many years Toronto Public Health she'd, be here today, but she's visiting her 104 year old sister in England, but she did send this message to you.

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We had some volume.

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We could stop his time while we get the volume correct, are.

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You able to fix the the volume I, don't know.

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Sorry, I actually only restarting your time, but let's give you back I'll take off a minute.

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With my grandchildren, I want to show you a 120 year old barn in Nova, Scotia nope, just kidding, that's a 120 year old, laneway structure off my street in Parkdale. That's a 19th century building. This is what zoning policies encourage today. There's my bike that I ride through all the lanes of Toronto and in my observation about 50% of the laneway infrastructure in Toronto is derelict. It's like that. The other 50% is, in my opinion, severely underutilized land, not the highest and best use of land.

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So I would ride my bike 25 years ago to derelict old buildings where I worked with other guys building things. What were we building? Internet companies Internet companies in Toronto, that occupied these buildings zoned or not attracted have attracted over the last 25 years, untold tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars in investment and created tens of thousands of jobs. That was all organic growth. We didn't ask the city for anything.

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We just asked the city to get out of our way and to let us grow and that's the same situation you have with housing.

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This is flashing forward 25 years. This is last week in Parkdale our residents Association the agenda. Laneways Suites, the number of people you see is 5 times the turnout we ever get at the ronsis vales residence Association I just want you to look at those forces, leaning forward wanting to be unleashed.

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People voted 70 to 1 in favor of laneways Suites and the one May came up afterwards and wanted her vote amended to I want a couple of changes. I believe you guys have contemplated those changes. She wants I hope they'll be adopted today.

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So I just want to remind you. This is what happens when you keep Toronto on a leash. This is what is in many lanes around Toronto. This one block away is what happens when someone unleashes themselves. This got snuck through all the restrictions that we place, that is a green roof. It's a net, zero building, it's all within code, I, don't think anyone lives there, but no one's really asking, but this is happening in Toronto, whether you restrict it or not. Why not?

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Let it happen in a way that we can all control it and that gives fair access to everybody. Who's got the drive to make Toronto a more livable city, so here's mama grandma as we call her yesterday and there's her grandson at prom last week. These people need better housing options. I urge you to vote for them today. Thank you all very much councillor may have it.

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You had some questions about how you could do this yourself, I'm happy to take those questions now, councillor, Crecy and late and I think you guys were conspiring to do something like this I've done. A lot of research I can help you figure it out, but again. Thank you all Council. Thank you for your hard work.

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Thank you very much George. Are there any questions for the speaker, counselor Krusty in.

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The interest of clarifying the record, you are aware that by conspiring this was my attempt to live in my Clayton's backyard, correct it.

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Was a free beer involved or something chickens? Okay,.

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Thank you very much George. Thank you. Our next speaker is Graham Haines Graham. Are you here great wonderful, come on up.

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We'll start your clock go ahead. Please wait. Five minutes all.

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Right, thank you for having me here today. I'm the research manager with the rice and City Building Institute were a public policy group that works out of Ryerson University, so I'm just here to say that Ryerson CVI is pleased to see the changing lane. Reports come back to Toronto and East York Community Council, and we look forward to seeing the recommended changes to the zoning. Bylaw and official plan enacted language suites offered the City of Toronto an important tool for delivering new, family-friendly and rental housing. Something attractive desperately needs more of.

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As a report bedrooms in the sky shows. Over the past decade, Toronto has delivered an abundance of small one-bedroom condos, but few larger family friendly units Langley suites, are not a silver bullet, but they do offer us one opportunity to build these larger units that are suitable to a range of households and families. Friendly Suites will also help add housing to areas with good access to existing transit, employment opportunities, services and schools.

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Many of these neighborhoods are decreasing in population as households, age gentle densities, such as laneways Suites, can help revitalize these areas and support local businesses and services. A research in turn into Toronto's rental supply, identified the need to scale up the delivery of units across the Judeo. Specifically, our research called for 8,000 purpose-built rental units to be delivered every year and while lamely suites won't be purpose-built rental units, they can contribute to our secondary rental market, which can help. These are tight vacancy rate, which is sitting at 1%.

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Ideally, that should be at three or four percent, so any small increment we can get towards that is helpful, given the need for a new family-friendly housing and rental supply in Toronto CBI thinks it's important to move forwards with the current staff recommendations. That said, we do believe that there are opportunities to improve policies related to lamely Suites in the future, for example, calls for less restrictive, angular, plane requirements and landscaping requirements could be considered as a program evolves. Potential refinements, however, should not get in the way of approval.

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To do the best way to learn about any potential improvements will be by implementing the program and monitoring its outcomes. This will allow the city to evaluate any successes and challenges that arise and recommend improvements based on real-world results from the program. We are also pleased to see that Toronto and ICI our Community Council recognizing recognizes housing, affordability as a concern for the city, and we are hopeful that some Torontonians will take advantage of the proposed pilot program.

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However, we also believe there are more effective ways to address affordability in Toronto's housing market than violin right housing. With that in mind, concerns about affordability should not be used to inhibit opportunities to live, to add lamely housing to our neighborhoods. To do to properly addressed affordability, we really need to increase the supply of rental units and family-friendly units across the city and particularly in established neighborhoods close to transit employment opportunities, serviced in schools as with laneways suites.

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This is going to require changes to our official plan, and zoning bylaw can make it easier to deliver the type of housing we need. Ultimately, we are excited to see laneway housing advance in toronto. It goes without saying that housing is a better use of our land than garages.

L

So, while lame isolates, may not be the Silver Bullet to affordability, they certainly can contribute to a more diverse housing stock that can better serve all Toronto residents. Thank you.

B

Thank you very much. Are there any questions for the speaker seeing none? Thank you. Our next speaker is Paul Bedford. Thank you, Paul and, as Paul gets to the front following Paul, be Sara Klima hanga, mark Despres, tow and natty savage, we're gonna, restart your clock now go.

O

Ahead: hey good morning, councillors I'm happy to be here to speak in support of laneway housing and I'm. Just gonna make three very simple points: I'm gonna talk about the process that you've gone through now to talk about the concept and then I'm gonna talk about the next first of all, the process I think you've done your homework. This is first thing.

O

I want to say this is not a new idea when I was here, we talked about this over 20 years ago and it was sort of a vague idea and maybe now maybe later well. Now is later. You have two comprehensive staff reports before you that have spelled out a very solid planning framework as to how to move forward with this exciting concept.

O

You've done an extensive consultation that I think has been very positive and helpful, and it's produced a better and result, and the supplementary report, before you I believe, does respond to many of your concerns that you expressed. Second, the concept. The phrase has been used earlier, that this is perhaps best described as gentle density. Why? Because it adds a supply of market housing and space for extended families in a way that fits within the context and the character of established neighborhoods, the as of right concept, I believe, is key to this.

O

If you really believe in this- and you want to see this to happen- then adopt the report, allow it to happen as of right and move forward. The other thing I want to say is that the performance-based zoning approach that the supplemental report talks about is really important. It's it's it's important because it talks about reality. It talks about what people see what they feel, what they touch once when laneway housing gets built instead of relying on artificial numbers that are in the zoning bylaws, such as 0.6 or 1 times the area.

O

The lot, as the supplement report, says many many properties in the Toronto and historic community councils already built in excess of that. So, if you go by a zoning criteria, you wouldn't allow anything. The other thing I think that's. A very important addition is the 1 million dollar pilot, affordable housing, laneway initiative, which has been added and referenced in the supplementary report up to 50,000 dollars could be provided if below market rent is secured for up to 15 years. Think this is really important as a positive addition.

O

My third simple point is this: what's your next step, the next step is to adopt it time to move forward and I'm gonna share this with you. Jane Jacobs often told me personally when you want to try and induce it, introduce a new idea that, maybe is not. You know that comfortable to people there's a couple of things that are really important, don't try and do it on a massive, comprehensive citywide basis. Do it in areas where there is already a high degree of support and I. Think these.

O

The two reports before you have done have responded to that. The second thing she said is get something built, so people can stop talking about it and go see it and experience it, and and and remove the and dispel the fears of the unknown, and the third thing she said is just start. Stop talking just start and do it and I think that is a really important. You know set of comments and advice that I will never forget from Jane I think you also have a great program of monitoring in place.

O

You can see what happens, you can see what the results are and you can make adjustments as needed. So, in summary, my message to you is I. Congratulate the staff I congratulate you as counselors I, think with laneway housing makes sense and there's one it's one simple way to add to the Housing Choice menu that we don't have now: no more paralysis through analysis, just move forward. Thank you. Okay,.

B

Thank you very much. Are there any questions for our speaker, okay, how's, my havoc? Yes,.

D

Just very quickly, do you think that this a project, I thought when you were speaking about next steps, I, should also look at call it non laneway secondary units on appropriate Lots, I.

O

Don't know I'm not gonna, frankly get into the details: I'm gonna leave it up to staff. Counselor I just wanted to keep it as simple as possible and say this is what you have before you I you've done your homework I think it's important to move forward and, let's see what happens because I think you have all the controls that you need in place to kick-start this. Thank you. Okay,.

B

Thank you very much. Are there any other questions? Okay, seeing none! Thank you Paul.

B

Our next speaker is Sarah climate hanga icer. Welcome back.

P

Thank you very much. Everybody. The other speakers have said everything more articulately than I. Would so I think I I concur with what they've said and thank them for what they said and thank you for having this report and considering it. I just wanted to give you my personal perspective. I have a two-car garage in my back yard. I would happily convert it into housing that would enable my parents who live in the city to age in place close to me it would free up their apartment.

P

Another thing it could allow me to do is my three children would be able to afford to live in the city because they could potentially live in a laneway unit. So personally, I would really like to see this happen. The other thing is my Lane way is not a well cared for or tended place its litter strewn. It's neglected. It's not it's kind of a loitering area. I, don't feel particularly safe at night, walking through my lane way.

P

So that's another reason: I'd really like to see it utilized and cared for I'm excited to have people using that space and I know it will be much safer and nicer. Finally, many of my neighbors feel the same way. They just don't have time to come down and depute, but I wish I got a video the way the first speaker did.

P

That was fantastic to bring that perspective and there's a lot of people in my area who would love to see language, housing, proceeds I, hope you can go forward today and thank you very much for all the work that you've done and that stuff is done. Thank.

G

B

Thank you very much Sara. Are there any questions for the speaker? Okay, seeing none. Thank you. Our next speaker is Mark and Repetto, and mark welcome. I will start your clock when you're ready thank.

Q

You yep it's a mark de Prado. Thank you. Yes, thank you. So my first time here, speaking at a council and I'm glad to be here and the reason I'm glad to be here- is because my wife and I made a very diff decision over 20 years ago or about 20 years ago, when we gave birth to a severely disabled son, and in that decision we had to decide one thing: where are we gonna live and we had a couple choices.

Q

We thought well, we can live, we can move to the suburbs and let's go to a nice sprawling ranch bungalow, because that'll be an easy way to live, or we can do what our heart told us to do, which is we wanted to stay in the city we were born in the city. We lived downtown, we loved living downtown, it's what we do.

Q

So we made a decision to invest a tremendous amount of money to renovate our house put in a four-story elevator and make it so that our son could live in our house as we wanted him to and have full access to everything that we have access to in that house. Along with that, we then had to start to think about. Well. What will this mean in the future? Well, the future is upon us. The future is upon us now.

Q

Our son is 20 at the age of 21, he's cut off, he's cut off from the system, he's cut off from a lot of funding, he's cut off from a whole lot of things, which is a whole other story, but with that my wife and I have made a decision along with our family and friends and a lot of folks in our neighborhood who fall said.

Q

Let's be inventive, let's be creative when we worked for their architect 15 years ago, he said you know what I think there might be a real chance for some laneway housing. It's gonna come one day. He was a real visionary for it back then, and here we are today, and we want to create an opportunity for our son and for our family to continue to live the way we want to live and the way he can live with dignity and fairness and laneway housing can help us get there.

Q

It can help us get there by giving us my wife and I, as we age should have a harder time caring for him, perhaps move into that laneway house and provide a place for our son and maybe another disabled person to move into our four-story, fully accessible house where he could live with a friend and a caregiver.

Q

My wife and I could move in to the laneway house, or my wife and I stay in the house with our daughter and, however else we live there and our son moves into the laneway house with a full-time caregiver. The bottom line is had I bought two condos 10 years ago and said we're gonna live in one or something's gonna live in the other and they're gonna be adjoining. We probably would have done that when we would have figured out a way to afford that. That's not gonna happen.

Q

Now we can't do that now, but what we do have is we have an asset. We have an ability, we have a desire and we have a neighborhood of people, I received I. Think I must have received five or six emails from friends and neighbors. Who heard about this meeting? Who said hey? Do you know about this? This could be a really good thing for you guys. You should think about this and I emailed them all back said I'm gonna be speaking here today.

Q

Trying to give you perhaps a perspective that you may or may not be aware of, of how important and timely your efforts could be in our success as a community and as a city in seeing a different way forward in helping us figure out a different way to live with dignity, fairness, compliance and all the stuff that comes with that.

Q

That's all I got to say. Thank you very much and.

B

Thank you for your remarks. Are there any questions for the speaker seeing none? Thank you, I'd like to call Nattie's Abuk and following nattie will be Josh Klein, Leah, Mastan and bridgett Shem, but natty first welcome natty. Thank you. Thanks.

E

To the councillors and city staff for having me here today, I'm a filmmaker and arts administrator of the Academy of Canadian cinema and television, I McMurphy's in Toronto and with Torontonians, and try to tell stories that are unique to the city and work at the academy to help others do the same. I was born and raised and currently live in Ward 15. My father and brother lived in Ward 15, my mother lives just south of DuPont in Ward, 19 I, see councillor must have a chat, the barns and on his bike.

E

Toronto can feel very small and certainly does, from this vantage I'm, proud to speak up. My family's behalf and I'm very grateful for the opportunity. If I can speak broadly for a moment, I want to raise a family in Toronto and want that family to grow up in a community that was as diverse as the Toronto that I grew up in I lived at Vaughan and Sinclair, which was then a middle-class neighborhood blocks from mansions and housing. Coops.

E

My classrooms, basketball teams, dance classes, arguments and friendships were with folks from an enormous Lea, wide range of cultures, incomes and opportunity. Diversity of community is the defining aspect of it is what makes Toronto so wonderful, creating space for folks who don't need or can't afford a house and don't want or can't afford to live in a condo, especially when there is a surplus of space sitting along our famous Toronto laneways seems like the right thing to do to keep this aspect of Toronto strong.

E

More specifically, my younger brother has a disability that limits his independence. He lives with my dad and the two floors of a triplex that was our family home, their garage, which opens onto a poorly lit alleyway and was recently broken into sits full of stuff. A laneway house would brighten that alley could help support my father, an artist with no pension or provide a home for my brother to carve out another sliver of Independence, while not risking his health. Instead, it's got a bunch of stuff there's a box for an orange Mac.

E

They bought in 1998. My own garage sits full of stuff, while my mom rents an apartment, a set of weights and old, Kenny, Hotz, poster and university textbooks, stuff. I, don't think I could live with my mom, but I certainly would like to live next to her.

E

I cleared this with her and she wanted me to emphasize that she also would not like to live with me, but as she gets older and needs someone nearby and as my own family grows, a laneway house would let our family stay close until then, it would provide renters an opportunity to get their footing in a community close to the subway and feel the Toronto that I brag about when I travel and much further down the road.

E

My brother will need to look to me for support and when that time comes, I want to be able to provide him with his own space. His safety and independence are. What motivates me the most to speak to you here today. Basically, I need more family and less stuff stuff, and things fill our garages across the city.

E

While there are real people and whole families that are looking for homes, the city should celebrate this opportunity to create new homes that aren't dependent on developers but are being championed by homeowners looking to share their corner of the city. With your approval, my laneway house will be next to the Davenport bus depot down the street from Hillcrest Park in McMurray school district, where my younger brother is the crossing guard and where both of us went to school and a 10-minute walk from Albert's.

E

Perhaps most importantly, where one day my mom we'll welcome my children from across the yard. With your approval, Elaine wait house would change the way my family and many others inhabit. Toronto. Thanks for your time and consideration, it's been a pleasure to speak to you today. Thank.

B

You so much for your remarks. We do have a question for you from councillor Roger Davis, wonderful, thanks.

D

So much mr. Zavitz for coming out and disputing Lee, so I just wanted to be clear. Did you say that you live in Ward 1515.

E

That's right: okay,.

D

So Ward 15 I'm, not sure if you're aware is in the North York district, and this is actually not.

E

I got that wrong: 21.

D

Okay, all right, then,.

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E

We go yeah. The website is wrong. You guys for.

K

Clarification absolutely yeah.

E

Yeah yeah, anticipating you know: okay,.

B

Thank you very much for.

D

The clarification and.

B

Councillor Laden is that a hand to indicate know anyone else with questions. No. Thank you very much. Thank.

E

You very much our.

B

Next speaker is Josh Klein hi, Josh, welcome, I'm gonna, start your clock and when you're ready five minutes. Thank.

K

You thank you, madam chair and councillors, for having me in today. It.

B

Can I just ask you to hold on, can I ask everyone to keep your you're talking to a minimum I'd like to hear the deputies I'm sure there others as well, please go ahead. Thank.

K

You um so my reason for coming to speak today is I understand. Laneway housing had some pushback with regards to the sitting wanting to implement further affordable housing measures within within the implementation of this program and I. Think my information here today is- or the reason I'm here today is just to provide a little bit of information on how effective this program is to help out the communities as a whole, as well as address some of the affordable housing issues that are sitting in front of the city.

K

So I can start off with a couple facts. The I'm sure many of you guys are aware that one-bedroom housing or one-bedroom rentals in Toronto has increased by 11 and a half percent to $2,000 a month or just under two thousand dollars a month. Two bedroom units have increased rental prices to twenty-six hundred and fifty dollars a month, which is an increase of of just over nine percent.

K

Vacancy rate is the lowest historically in Toronto sitting, just under or at point zero seven percent, which is historically the lowest that I know of and I think, according to the trap stats, it's also the lowest on record. The lack of available supply in the rental housing segment is a large reason that you've seen this incredible growth in in rental prices here in Toronto.

K

The way that laneway, the laneway housing plan has been implemented is really designed at an on several lot, which really allows for an increased supply of rental housing within our markets.

K

We also have the opportunity here to Olivia alleviate some of the other issues that were having in the city. I know, there's according to Canadian Centre, for the economic analysis that was done earlier on in 2017. There's a reported 2.2 million empty bedrooms within the city. There is a.

K

By allowing these types of developments to take place, people who want to maintain the the their stay in their neighborhoods and maintain the fabric that they've created are able to create other options for them to stay in their neighborhood, and you know maybe move into their language housing, allowing for all those empty bedrooms in their houses to be rented out and again increase the amount of supply that would be available to people within our city.

K

People want to stay in their neighborhoods. This is a viable opportunity for people to stay in their neighborhoods and alleviate that those empty bedrooms at the the town hall that that councillor Wang Tam hosted earlier on this year, or this I think it was last month as well at U of T.

K

There was certain discussions, or there were certain comments that kept on coming up, where it's very difficult for the the individual homeowner to really contribute in a tangible way, at executing executing just a method to alleviate some of these pressures that we have on our on the availability of stalk, which is leading to this growth. This this crazy increase in prices for our rental housing.

K

This makes a again a tangible way of allowing communities and individuals to create to create housing and help with this problem beyond community organized efforts to lobby government and then there's another side of this as well, where developers, when they deal with growing when developers apply for affordable housing permits to deal with building in the city they're often incentivized by by government, so by by holding back or by creating further hurdles for people to jump over to to get these approved or try to subsidize it or create more taxes on it.

K

What you're really doing is you're penalizing the little guy when the city typically incentivizes developers, to build these houses. If anything, you should. You should implement plans that that allow this type of development to to proceed at a faster rate and and try to implement this into the cities as quickly as possible.

K

The province of Ontario has also strongly recommended that we look at secondary Suites and implementing secondary Suites. It requires the municipalities to look at their policies and plans. This falls into that policy and plan they're talking about auxilary housing. They have identified this as a sustainable way of increasing, affordable housing simply by adding more by adding more inventory into our into our into our city. This hits the marks on that on that element secondary Suites, the secondary Suites would be a win for the for the city and and does hit it for the province.

K

I understand I'm. At a time. That's.

B

Correct, thank you. Perhaps there might be a question for you. Are there any questions for the speaker? No okay. Thank you very much.

K

B

Our next speaker is Liam Aston Leah welcome nice to see you again.

N

B

N

Hello, I'm, Liam, Aston, I'm, an architect and I designed small buildings and laneway houses I do that for a living. This is kind of my field of expertise, along with the Toronto Society of Architects and the Ontario Association of Architects. We've been reviewing the final report and I'm here to say that we support the laneway suite mandate and the reason why the voice of architects is important in this context is because architects are the ones that interpret the zoning bylaws and turn them into buildings every day.

N

There is one exception to our unequivocal support of the report, which is, you might have received this email all from from me, and the Ontario architects Association already, and that is the detail of the angular plane setback. You might wonder what what is the angular plane setback I'm, just gonna.

N

It's the corner, cut off the building on the side of the house towards the backyard, and why is this an issue? There are three reasons why this is an issue: number one: affordability.

N

If you remove that amount of space on the second floor, that means that we can't it's not livable space under the angular plane, and that removes the amount of floor space that is about equivalent to one bedroom. So one bedroom equals maybe one person and does it make it less expensive to build? Not really you could kind of build the same.

N

You could probably build something without the angular plane for the same price.

N

The second reason.

N

The second reason is about privacy and overlook, which are and overshadow, which are the reasons why the angular plane exists and I personally would argue that if I can I am allowed to build dormer windows in the corners of the building, then the building will overshadow the neighbors and have as much overlook in any case.

N

So what we are interested in is seeing the the angular plane.

N

Would you consider removing that from or consider recommending, not including that, because it is prescriptive of the building form and we would like to be able to encourage a variety of different building forms to be possible, Toronto's, a great design city. It's got really interesting architects and we think that there is a lot of potential to do great buildings as Langley buildings.

N

So, in conclusion, I would like to say: I really support, laneway, housing and I hope you vote yes, but consider recommending to not include the lien, the angular plane.

B

Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Are there any questions for Leah, okay, councillor Lee? Yes,.

E

Thank you very much as you're the first architect up, I'm yeah I've got some just practical questions and I'll be supportive of the recommendations coming forward. You should be building it along the it is about cost, because when we do, there is a lot of discussion on affordability and for many simply building. It may be an expense that yes,.

N

E

Affordable because you can't you can't Bank on rental income, if you are planning on renting it out. mhm So what is what are the costs associated with with with building a laneway house? If you can Ballpark it, you know like there. There is a it's, not just a pad. Most of our most of our garages are built on parking on pads.

E

It needs a foundation and.

N

E

The water and the waste water correct.

N

E

Are we looking at those costs well.

N

Your cost for building new residential in Toronto is around $300 a square foot. I would say these buildings are gonna cost between 300 and 600 thousand dollars to build. They could be less, but if you really include all of the costs of servicing and your cost of the professionals like the consultants, construction permitting, it would add up to a number 300.

E

To 600 well.

N

It could be less, it could be less, but it depends on what you're building you know like I got.

E

Two-Story, like.

N

E

Okay, no I just I'm going to get a ballpark of what what it would look like for a homeowner.

O

E

Karen half a million dollars on their mortgage. Yes,.

N

E

It would take to actually do this cuz, that's gonna impact update.

B

And ice I'm gonna suggest that maybe counselor Lane speak to you offline. If you want to carry on this conversation, anyone else with questions for Leah, okay, seeing none Leah. Thank you very much for your for your deputation. Thank you.

B

Our next speaker is Bridget. Jim Bridget welcome following Bridget will be Lauren Stevens and Gary Wright, all very familiar people Bridget.

G

Welcome, thank you so much. My name is Bridget Shem I'm, an architect I'm up and I'm. Also a professor at the Faculty of architecture, landscape and design at the University of Toronto, I designed and built a house in an East End neighborhood in the early 1990s and the site we found was filled with abandoned cars left there by our neighbors house that we built demonstrates the potential of lane ways to strengthen, strengthen and stabilize neighborhoods.

G

My husband and I have raised our two children and it's the only house, they've known in 2003 I worked with my students at the University of Toronto and we put together a book called sight-unseen laneway architecture and urbanism in Toronto, my master students in architecture, landscape and urban design, researched the potential of laneways, and in a way we felt that it was such a viable possibility. In 2003 we submitted this work to the Toronto architecture and urban design. Awards.

G

We didn't know if it belong in the student project category or the vision and master plan category and, to my surprise, my students and I received the award of excellence for vision and master plan in a way. I just wanted to give you a few excerpts from the jury comments. They talked about this being an extensive body of research about laneway, intensification and development in Toronto that it was rigorous and well presented, and the body of work is grounded in the real thesis which is about changing the city's policies regarding laneway architecture.

G

So this is 2003 and, and also it goes on to say that in 2003 now 15 years ago, this was this work was long overdue. So this design studio in the university of toronto recognized and explored the unique opportunity of existing laneway networks to provide a resource for the city. Defining a new and important built form an open space network within the fabric of our existing Toronto, so I'm here to say that I firmly support this Elaine Way initiative and I've been supporting it for the last two decades.

G

I truly appreciate the enormous effort of city staff. In preparing these thoughtful guidelines upon careful review of the guidelines, I would really agree with 95% of their work and I respectfully request the removal of the requirement for the angular plane for two reasons: the angular plane design requirement is restrictive, it will hamper design excellence and the potential of laneway housing. My hope is that laneway housing is really a beacon for good design that also simultaneously reinforces our existing neighborhoods across the city.

G

Also, this angular plane requirement will hamper the ability of laneway housing to address the pressing citywide issue of housing, affordability by limiting the micro dimensions of the interior. Second floor, plate we're talking inches throughout this area, but it actually matters because these are bedrooms.

G

The potential to really maximize the second floor of a laneway suite and enclosing laneway intensification is an issue that has been around for decades and it is essential to support and to pass this motion and to ensure that we can define the best built form and the best open space framework possible, reinforcing the existing fabric in our great neighborhoods in Toronto, and to ensure that by passing this, there will be a kind of continued vitality in all of these neighborhoods for decades to come. Thank you. Thank.

B

You very much Bridget. Are there any questions for the speaker, okay, seeing none. Thank you great. Thank you. Our next speaker is Lauren. Steven Lauren. Are you here, Lauren Stevens? Can we may come back to Lauren? I may call your name again. Gary Wright is our next speaker.

B

Carrie. Welcome. Welcome back.

Q

As mr. Bedford's said, this item in particular has had a long history. I can remember many discussions myself with staff, always a difficult issue to confront and I'm very pleased that, through a coordinated effort of councillors, community and staff, we now have something that can move forward and will be a really good thing for the city.

Q

There's been lots of good work done on this. Certainly a lot of community consultation, a lot of staff work, a lot of technical analysis and I. Think the right framework is in front of you and the principle that the housing is subordinate to the main structure is a key one and also that it cannot be severed. That was one of the things we always worried about when we dealt with this issue.

Q

You know we don't want to separate the house behind a house so with those kind of principles in mind, it's the right time to bring this to fruition. I think it's also good infrastructure in place and adding modest density by way of laneway housing is a very good idea. It will add to the rental housing stock over time. I.

Q

Don't expect this to be hundreds and hundreds of units in a year, maybe it will be, but over time it will add to that stock, which I think is critically important to the city and it will add diversity to the neighborhood housing stock. That's something that I think is also important, because sometimes these neighborhoods can be a bit static.

Q

If the official plan says everything has to be within the character of the neighborhood and I think we need to find creative ways to add diversity to that, and something also is that, as of right, zoning is the key to this without ads of right zoning, it's just too much process and I think the process has happened. Now's the time to move forward with our right zoning I think it'll also make Toronto a more interesting. City and cities need to be interesting. They need to continually differentiate themselves from their surroundings.

Q

The suburbs, the exurbs all of those kinds of things and adding these modest little things I. Think these small interventions make the city a more interesting place to live more two-faced at work, certainly more and more interest in place to walk around, and we don't always need a big move to do that, and sometimes the small moves will accomplish that.

Q

There is also I think over time the opportunity to actually make these laneways more attractive and that's not a bad thing. My first experience with a laneway 1975 I was working in the West End of the city at a site office. We got a call. One of the residents wanted some help dealing with the building inspection problem, so I go out into the slain way.

Q

This resident had done some extensive repairs to the garage and actually attached a piece of the garage to a tree and, of course the building inspector said well, that's not really how you, how you build things and I had to take that advice. I was kind of young and full of vim and vigor and thinking the residents were right about everything anyway.

Q

That was a real exposure. You know the things that go on in laneways I think have changed over time. I think this particular kind of addition will be really important. Moving forward, as I said, I just have a couple of pieces of advice. One is with as of right: Sonia I simply think. Staff have to carefully monitor committee of adjustment applications, because if you get two or three bad laneway houses, that's not going to be the kind of story anybody wants. The other thing is councilor may havoc looking forward over the years.

Q

What are the possibilities of non laneway, secondary units and I think again over the next term of council? That may be something to look at I grew up in Scarborough on a suburban lot. My brother owns that family home now I can tell you putting a secondary unit on Lots that deep should never be out of the question. It's gonna have to be a process around that there's going to have to be buy-in, but we need to look at ways to densify these neighborhoods without turning them into high-rise or medium rise.

Q

Neighborhoods told us to leave you with those thoughts and thank you very much for all your work. Thank.

B

You very much Gary and thank you for your comments. Are there any questions for the speaker seeing none? Thank you. I'd like to call Barbara vac off Taylor, welcome nice to see you again, okay, and we will just restart your clock when you're ready.

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D

Morning, members of the committee, my name, is Barbara voce Taylor I'm here on behalf of the Toronto society of Architects, the Toronto society of Architects has a long tradition of advocating for design in the city, ensuring that architecture and urban design are key considerations in public discussions and in the processes that have an impact on our built environment.

D

It's with this mandate in mind that we are here today regarding the changing lanes, the city's Toronto, the city of Toronto's, review of lane ways, seat suites, and we are here to firmly state our support allowing laneway housing as of right within the proposed area. We would like to begin also by acknowledging the role of advocates and city staff, advancing the important issue of laneway housing in Toronto and their persistent work throughout the last two decades that have brought us to this point where laneway housing might become an overdue reality in our city.

D

This is an exciting opportunity for a new typology for architectural innovation and excellence. The housing stock in the city can be diversified while preserving the character of our neighbourhoods, as dictated in the Official Plan. You've heard from a lot of supporters today, a lot of independent members of the public. The need for this mandate is not from a larger intention of simple development and intensification, but real stories from real people that are looking for an independent method of achieving their needs.

D

I'd like to echo the comments of Pyle Bedford that we need to. We need to a place to start and I think we have a good system of checks and balances proposed so that we can monitor the progress of this mandate, but we do need your leadership from the committee. In order to start you have the TSA s strong support.

D

In conclusion, I'd also like to.

D

State that our support for laneway housing is unequivocal, but we do strongly advise against overly prescriptive guidelines. Architects thrive on constrictions and restrictions. We love a challenge, but it withers under prescriptions. If it is too prescriptive, there really is just one solution and to move past that solution or that singular solution would require applications to the already overburdened committee of adjustment. So we do recommend establishing clear performance criteria that would provide flexibility to architects and designers while addressing the site-specific conditions and ensuring the key aspects.

D

We trust that our feedback will be considered as the guidelines are finalized and we make ourselves available to the work with us to work with the city to ensure policies and guidelines on laneway housing allow this new housing type to live up to its full potential. Thank you very much. Ok,.

B

Thank you very much and are there any questions seeing none? Thank you. Barbara I would like to call Karen Gore's line, followed by Glen, Smith and Chris spoke.

B

Yep that that's fine, thank you. Oh, Karen and Glen welcome back.

C

Is it started? Yes, okay, I'm not going to go through who we are, and you I think you've seen us before and know who ABC our residents association is I'm Karen Gore's line I'm with that group and we're speaking to our submission, which is two one three. So first I wanted to thank the Toronto and East York Community Council for the opportunity to have the one month differ and those consultations with city planning staff I think it was a month.

C

Well-Spent I think we've seen some good improvements to the proposal, and so we thank you very much for that opportunity and also thank the Senate planning staff for working with us and listening to us and and so I think it was a very productive meeting. So we're gonna speak to a few of the comments in our letter, but not necessarily all of them in introduction, I'd like to say, we are not interested in obstructing or not opposed to laying way sweets in principle whatsoever. But in terms of specific aspects we have concerns.

C

Some of those concerns are still unresolved and we're going to raise them. We we acknowledge, they may or may not be able to be dealt with. We have in the future. I myself may be looking for a laneway suite I live in a three-story row house, it's a lot of stairs the knees are holding up so far, but who knows for how long? And we have consistently raised the issue of seniors and accessibility from the very first day. If you look at our earlier submissions, we constantly are coming back to that.

C

Why is it not there? We even tried to get it changed in the amendment, so George we would love to make mama happy and we think everything we suggest would, if it were in place, would not only make mama happy but would also make neighbors happy, and so that's where we're coming from. So let me just move quickly into what we had to say because it's time it's going in terms of our concerns around policy I think the city planning staff have a respondent in a way we feel comfortable.

C

We agree with the issue going that needs more work and it should be removed from SAS P 546 at this time. As proposed by the staff report, we request that the issues outlined in C and D be are related and aligned to updating, SAS P, 2 1 1 3, as directed by City Council and follow-up action, should be blended in and merged into that activity of updating the overall secondary specific for our plan.

C

In accordance with the City Council decision on May, the 22nd in terms of fire and emergency, we have an ongoing concern in spite of the comments by city in the city staff report. We still regardless have a concern about someone being trapped between a row house and an the equivalent of rural house lay house in old, dense neighborhoods fire can spread very quickly if someone's asleep.

C

We have no issue with once laneway houses one-story as of right, what none whatsoever- and we are no stranger to intensification and density in our areas if all we have to do, is look down at Laura and Yonge and look at the one, and we know that there's something happening there and everywhere else. We look, and we appreciate the interest and looking at more effective land-use and providing more options within a consistent and appropriate framework.

C

We think some of the pressure about the having two storeys as of right may come from experience with committee of adjustment in the past. In the past, the any laneways suite was did was not a permitted use and it was not covered by any standards that will no longer be the case. It will be a permitted use and it will be covered in standards, and so the only laneway houses that would go to committee of adjustment would be the ones that would do as of now.

C

If they were one story in terms of going with certain modifications they wanted to make, and it's a fact of life of dat downtown living. We believe one right promotes modest homes and they be more less expensive to build in terms of Ottawa. They talk about and theirs they only permit one story as a bright and the things that they talk about are things that we think are important, that the applications are circulated to neighbors they're allowed to appear at the committee of adjustment. They have a right to appeal.

C

They also talk about it's best to comply with Sony. If a minor variants application is required, it's best to talk to neighbors and explain and see if you can work it out, so that whole building of better relationships through dialogue- oh my goodness, okay in terms of a modest homes and affordability, we have a chart. We want to show you on yeah.

B

Karen and Glen, just so, you know I'm merging your time together, so yeah collectively you have to I, will show you.

C

One short in terms of- and you can ask me questions about it, but the current proposal, as one story 8 by 10, is 861 square meters. In in that footprint, you could put the studio a one-bedroom and adequately a two-bedroom and that's what this chart is showing I'd be happy to speak to questions on that. Okay, okay,.

A

Just just want to say thanks for having us, we really appreciate the extra time we were given this past month to discuss things with planning and that council gave us that time. We think a lot has been accomplished. We we want to recognize that a lot of work was done by a lot of people. Tree protection.

A

Landscaping has been addressed and good in good ways and council has addressed affordability in some ways, as well as a background I've been living in Toronto for 35 years for 28 of those years, I've lived as cold, no farther than 450 meters from Yonge Street, so I'm, a city person, I've lived everywhere from young and Gerard in College, Park to Avenue, Road and Lawrence to young area. To now, the ABC neighborhood were on 450 meters from Yonge Street, so I live in the city. I've lived almost my entire life in the city as an adult.

A

We believe a lot has been accomplished, but there's a couple of issues so I'm just going to get into some details. First, there's overlooked privacy issues outstanding, there's some yard size issues and there's some laneway with issues. Now we expect today and hope that this proposal, or a variant of the overall proposal, will go through today. We're not here to stop anything at all, we're here to identify some issues that should either be addressed in amendments or so we at least followed up in the monitoring period after the fact.

A

First off the previous report doesn't really look at privacy issues. There has been some so that has been addressed. One key area, though, is the proposal allows for, as of right permission to build secondary Suites up to six meters. These units are meant to be subordinate to the main building on a lot. The maximum height should not be allowed to exceed the height of the main building on the property.

A

If this main building is a bungalow and as of right, six meter, high secondary unit may become the dominant structure on the property and certainly overlook the bungalow, and we know there are some of these buildings in Toronto. We suggest any second story be reviewed by CoA to ensure compatibility with neighboring properties and the main house now last month we also talked about windows and dormers.

A

There has been some fixes on dormers, but, as pointed by one of the previous presenters, the dormers still encroach on the 45-degree angle in a significant way, but we'd like to changes generally.

A

There's also been talk, though about some people may choose not to do the 45-degree angle, but instead call the step back. So the second floor will all would be right. There, sorry for the floor, enos of my hands. There would be right where I put the red mark. This would allow the entire back of the house to be covered in glass because there are now and can be no guidelines about fenestration facing the yard.

A

So as of right, somebody can build an entire glass wall facing the the backyard and what would stop them from putting a sliding glass door in place in the guidelines? Nothing that doesn't mean that would be legally attacked, but people could step out onto that Jimmy. Here's setback, space.

A

Tree protection again we're very happy with what's happened with tree protection and landscape. You know, there's still some issues in regards to yard sizes planning says: setback on a one one story unit should only be five meters from the main house.

A

That is an improvement on some of the current the guidelines within the city, but doesn't take into account that this new yard will be shared by a minimum of two households in the primary house. One minute and the secondary house I want to show an example of basically my yard in my neighbor's yard. This is it today if I follow the guidelines, I could build a one meter unit that close to my house. Now this perspective issues scary, but basically I can take away a lot of green space further.

A

My neighbor could do that whose houses in this deepest mine- and they could build within that yellow space, basically giving up major yard space, and that would still be five meters from their building.

A

We think that lamely housing should be oriented or locked towards the lane bay and not be allowed to be pushed too far constantly.

A

Lastly, I just want to show one quick thing about Glen.

B

You're out of time we have a picture. You can look at okay, there are. There is a question for you from councillor Davis councillor Davis, please go ahead. Did.

C

You have to add to finish your submission.

A

Talk about it, yeah a ton I can say, but in the nature of good timing, I want to mention that there's a perfect there's, really no provision for five feet early anyway. The proposal says the proposed 1.5 meter setback is appropriate. Insurance language suits will not prevent residential lanes from eventually meeting or exceeding the required twice unit. 5 meter with overtime I want to suggest how this may be an error, or at least an omission.

A

Let's take a look at a 3 meter lane way, which is what I have so you put a 1.5 meters setback for the units on either side. If the city that assumes a 5 meter lane way, that will only allow a point. Five meters setback for lane rehousing, which basically means the housing will be facing right onto the lane way. Doors wouldn't even be able to open without if we assume a 5 meter, eventual.

A

B

Think that's unless councilor Davis has another question for us.

A

Is really it may have none conforming house that opens right onto the lane way, and that could happen with these plans, as is if the city assumes a 5 meter laying in the future.

B

Ok, thank you very much. Are there any other questions.

N

Thank you thank.

B

You Karen for your deputation I'd, like to call Chris spoke to speak. Thank you, Chris, nice to see you again welcome back 5 minutes when you're ready, sure.

L

Good morning my name is Chris Volk and I'm. A member of housing matters so.

A

We are a group of Torontonians who advocates for advocate for increased housing supply to address the.

L

Housing availability and affordability crisis that is, pricing, many renters young people and middle-class families out of our city. We take very seriously the common-sense notion that if we want more people to have housing in Toronto, we're going to need to build more housing, I appreciate the opportunity to speak on.

Q

The city's review of Illinois Suites today I would like to start by thanking planning staff for the.

L

Diligent work that went into this file, as many of you know, our rental vacancy rate at 1.1 percent is now the lowest it's been in 16 years. This metric, which we use as a measure of available housing units, points to a clear supply problem when housing in Toronto.

F

It is on this basis that we.

L

As an organization are enthusiastic supporters of laneway Suites, the city has estimated that we could see up to 300 laneways suites constructed in Toronto, where they allowed were they to be allowed. So that's up to 300 homes for up to 300 households.

F

Per year, laneways suites on their own will not solve our supply problem, but they take us in the right direction and they're long overdue. So, for the sake of those 300.

A

F

Households per year, we urge you to please say yes, laneway suites, and to vote in favor of adopting this package. Thank you. Okay,.

B

Thank you very much any questions. Okay. Thank you very much. Our next speaker is Jeffrey Joan, followed by Sarah, udo and craig race. Jeffrey welcome.

R

B

If your microphone is lit with the red light, then your microphone is on very.

R

Good all apologize by the way in advance for my hay fever, but otherwise I think I can talk fairly quickly. I'm Jeffrey, Jones I'm on the board of directors of Sarah Sarah is the South Eglinton great bears and residents Association, and basically we are the Association for Davisville and we do have a couple of laneways there, which are city laneways. I hope to speak for only about three minutes, but I did make some notes and I'd like to go through them.

R

In particular, sarah did send a letter which was signed by my colleague our kitty, and this is regarding the issue of the walkway for laneways sweets. We think it's a good thing that laneway sweets are required to have a walkway which takes people from the laneway suite to the main street in front of the main house. However, this is exempted for about six or seven hours, actually a dozen houses, if it's on either side of the lane way when it is within 45 minutes.

R

Forty I beg your pardon forty five meters of the entrances of the laneway. Now we feel there's a risk to seniors in winter, and this is from my letter from Alice letter forced to walk down an icy rotted vehicle laneway 45 meters, whether plowed or not, instead of a pedestrian walkway to the street, which is being required for most, but not all properties.

R

So I'd like to go through that issue, a little bit I think it's common sense, but it seems to slip past the analysis, the falling between cracks, because people by and large been looking at the architecture issues. So I was delighted with some of the early speakers who did speak about their mother, their father, their family, etc. Who will have to do this?

R

You think common sense, even if you live in a tall building in downtown Toronto, if you just step off the sidewalk of a downtown street, which is for pedestrians onto the street itself in the wintertime, it's a mess and it's actually quite dangerous for a senior now.

R

I've spoken with someone I won't say who who said well: you're disabled senior should not grant a unit on those 45 meters. Well, I, don't think that's the way you can look at it because we're talking about Aging in Place, and we all know people who have had a problem after they've rented their accommodation and the aim of this initiative is to have seniors Aging in Place ongoing.

R

The other thing which is interesting is the background as to why you have this 45 metre provision. As far as I've been told and I'm, not a hundred percent sure this is true. It's because fire hydrants are 90 metres apart, so the fire hose is in Toronto are traditionally about 90 metres long, so the rule of thumb has really developed from the length of the fire hoses and not from talking to seniors.

R

We've had a number of discussions about this, with senior staff at our planning and so forth, and to tell the truth: they've never been able to mention where we did consult with seniors organisations. So our request is that there would be some consultation with seniors organisations about this. One specific issue: we see no reason why a walkway couldn't be required to the street as is required for all the other Lane where Swedes.

R

Generally speaking, we don't believe in asking counsel for last-minute changes, because we know they've been a lot of work. Developing this I think we all would like to see. You approve this initiative today, but we do think these excellent, very complex technical reports have been written with very little consultation with seniors and disabled organizations.

R

I'd like to mention that there was in the 1980s an Ontario thing called the granny flat demonstration project and it had a lot of consultation with seniors organizations.

R

So that is our request that there would be some more consultation unless you see the common sense of what I'm suggesting and what we recommend that change now. I'd, also like it's a pity that counsel Layton isn't here, because I have some information for him. I have here in front of me. The granny flats are option for the elderly from 1986 through report, and it talks about costs, and let me see if I can find the right page here. It says it was hard to swallow such a price shock.

R

The prices were between $21,000 for a laneway suite in 1986 up to 54 thousand dollars for a company that wasn't interested. The mid range was between 35,000 and 37 thousand dollars for a laneway suite, so I fill that out. If councillor Layton is interested in building one, he should probably talk with those architects.

R

Thank you very much and.

B

Thank you very much Jeffrey. Are there any questions for the speaker, seeing none? Thank you or I'd like to car next speaker, Sara Udo, and welcome back nice to see you.

S

Thanks for having me so my name is Sarah. You know I'm an urban planner with glad keep planning, associates and I'm the founder and co-director of crazy Dame's, which is a community engagement.

S

Consultancy people often ask what the names about it's an ode to Jane Jacobs, who was called a crazy Dame's in the 1960s for her ideas in the fall of 2016, crazy, Dame's, co-led, the laneway sweets, consultation with evergreen and I authored the laneway sweets consultation, summary report that was published in March 2017 I'm here today, to provide my support for the changing lanes policy recommendations.

S

My support is based on my experience, leading the consultations in this process and my experience working on development applications and housing policy as an urban planner, as well as my understanding of the updated guidelines, I strongly believe the policy should be enacted immediately and without any additional amendments and I want to tell you why. First, the consultation process truly informed. These policies I want to briefly summarize the consultation process. I was involved in. We lied to Ward specific consultations in wards 33 and 18, and a citywide consultation over 400 people attended.

S

These consultations, which, as a consultant working on citywide public engagement and policy projects, is extremely rare and impressive, especially for people who were in support of the policies and not opposed to them. The participant group was diverse, including homeowners, who backed onto lean ways, residents and laneway houses, members of the development community and interested citizens. Often citizens who, like me, are watching rents and costs of homes skyrocket in Toronto and are wanting the city to enact any even small-scale changes to alleviate the stresses on the housing market. Okay.

S

So what did we hear from these consultations held back in 2016? The vast majority of participants were in favor of laneways Suites, those who had concerns, and the few who were opposed mentioned parking traffic, shadowing and noise issues as concerns, many participants requested relaxed regulations or financial incentives, as developing laneways Suites at this point was not deemed to be feasible by them. Ensuring adequate space and promoting sustainability was a major theme discussed, and most participants felt that parking requirements requirements should not be necessary for building laneway Suites.

S

This consultation was just step one and I'm so impressed by the work of landscape evergreen and a City Planning Division, in how they've kept the public informed through the process have consulted further as policies progressed and have developed thoughtful policies that responded to the concerns and opportunities outlined through all the consultations, including the ones I mentioned above similarly, the most recent iteration is further refined to better protect trees and privacy and to recommend an affordable language Suites pilot initiative, and this is all based on what City Planning has heard on May 2nd, which I also commend so now, I want to quickly discuss why I approve these policy recommendations from a planning perspective from a big-picture City Building perspective, as outlined in the staff reports.

S

Laneways Suites can encourage complete communities and help make the city's underutilized lanes more livable and and safe by promoting eyes on the street from a housing perspective. My office glad keep planning is known for the work that we do in housing policy and affordable housing developments having worked on Regent Park and Lawrence Heights and a bunch of other projects. I clearly understand that this is not an affordable housing policy. I mentioned the work we've done in housing, because we understand that the city needs both large-scale housing policy and developments, as well as smaller scale.

S

Approaches like this to assist with the addition to rental housing and to provide more housing options. I also quickly want to mention my experience with the development approvals process. Right now to develop, a laneway house would be extremely difficult, as you'd have to go through a rezoning process. Projects I've worked on that require rezoning, take often a minimum of two years to get improved, and this isn't just for large condos. A recent example was an affordable housing project that I worked on, that staff approved of that still took over two years.

S

A two-year process would make this unfeasible for most people working on small-scale projects such as this I'm, getting approached by residents who are looking forward to the laneways sweets policies, getting improved and want advice on next steps and I'm happy to be able to tell them that this will likely make the process more efficient and cost effective to add rental housing to their neighborhoods and lastly, in support of the guidelines.

S

As a planner I appreciate the importance of respecting the context and neighborhoods and happy that there are guidelines that will ensure laneways sweets are built in a sensitive ways that consider green space privacy and bike parking just to name a few. So.

B

Your final thought please great.

S

Good timing: for all these reasons, I again urge you to approve the policy recommendations without amendment. Thank.

B

You very much any questions for Sarah. Okay, Sarah, you've covered it all. Thank you. Our next speaker is Craig race, followed by Joe flat and Sue Dexter, Craig I know you're. Here there you are.

M

Thank You councillors very welcome I would combine if that's okay, absolutely.

B

That's fine you'll have ten minutes together then, okay. Well, we'll be brief.

P

Nice to be back with all of you this morning, thank you for having us here. I think we've heard some really interesting and useful and valuable remarks previously.

P

So I'm not gonna, repeat what you've heard from a lot of the wonderful decadence this morning, I'm Joe flat I'm, the senior leader evergreen, as you already may know, and was very involved and have been involved in language Suites issues for the past several years and ran the consultations with landscape and a by Lao and Mary Margaret McMann, so I think I, just wanna start off by applauding the city staff for their really great work the past month and before that it has been a lot of heavy lifting, and we know they've done some incredible due diligence and consultation that has really looked at so many different issues, so I really want to commend them, especially around the affordability work.

P

I think this is actually something to be thinking about in other project contexts, we've managed to think really creatively about it around something, so small. Let's try to do this around everything. It was a really great example and we're very pleased to be seeing that I also really appreciate the effort to monitoring and review I think it's really important that we learn how to iterate and adjust and adapt over time.

P

I was just reading the city of Vancouver's laneway Suites review process and it provided a great deal of insight on the uses of laneway houses and the areas needed change. They consulted with homeowners who built them. People who live in them also the construction developer community and are using those insights to adjust and tweak their programming on a on an ongoing basis, which is something we can look to and learn from.

P

It's been so successful in fact that they're hoping to build 4,000 more units in the next ten years as part of their Vancouver strategy to build 72,000 units across the city, so really just building on their success and something we can be excited about and look forward to here. In Toronto, as Sarah mentioned, there was a really exhaustive process and I want to reiterate that the findings idea, guidelines and insights contained here are really a function of many.

P

Many voices from across the city and with a process of monitoring review, we can continue to integrate those voices and perspectives and I'm gonna turn over to my colleague Craig to take it from there. So thank you. Everyone thanks.

M

Joe, so we sort of wanted to do a design presentation, because we've been analyzing the bylaws that are proposed to talk about the virtues of the design and how they've been crafted in such a way. That's actually going to be adding trees and green space to our city, as well as preserving a lot of the built form, qualities that we appreciate in our neighborhoods.

M

Currently, the rear yard between the laneway suite and the main house will have a requirement for more soft landscaping than it has a bright house and garage. So every language that gets built will be seeing more planting area and more trees. It's only possible for that to go up as these get built. Also, the separation from the laneway is greater than those four as of right garages by half a meter. So if Lane widening were to ever turn a three meter Lane into a 5 meter, Lane.

M

First of all that wouldn't be possible because of existing as of right garages, but these would also be set back from buildings. So that's something we're confident is future-proof in terms of the details that go into the rear yard. The requirements around the deck ensure that decks will be close to grade that cannot be higher than the ground floor by more than 0.3 meters, so privacy and Overlook will never be a concern and also the covers over. Those are also limited to a very shallow depth and a low height. It can't be above 4 meters.

M

They will never create shadow impact on neighbors. In addition, the requirements for the laneway side, as I mentioned, will only be out in green space and beauty. Any decks have to be facing the public realm, which is the laneway. It is not OK and the bylaws clearly state. You cannot have second-floor decks facing the rear yards, so the possibility of people having walkouts on that side is completely moot and will be controlled by these requirements.

M

Also, some changes were made to the mechanical equipment to ensure it is effectively invisible to anyone on the laneway or in adjacent rear yards, which we think is a really good step forward.

M

Finally, the overall shape of the building is what I really love about this and what I'm most proud of it's based on parameters of available space. It doesn't need to be connected to the gross floor area of the house, because you can only build these where there's adequate space and separation from adjacent structures by living on additional requirements. We actually make this more complicated and more expensive for people to acquire, basically the exact opposite of what we're trying to do.

M

We have to think that the concept for this movement is to put power back in the hands of our individual homeowners, we're tired of developers being the only people who can afford and have the expertise to build our housing. That means we have to have simple and clear guidelines that are accessible to everyone.

M

That means we have to avoid going to sea of a that's the whole reason we had such an thorough consultation process to make sure we got ahead of neighbor issues and came up with a guideline that everyone can agree with, and we can get rid of the bureaucracy. The months and the tens of thousands of dollars that going to see of a these are gonna help. People afford their mortgages and accommodate their families.

M

They're going to give us flexibility to continue to live in our neighborhoods, where we're currently being pressed out by increasing prices, so the keys to success are simple, effective and performance-based bylaws, and that's exactly what you have in front of you today. We want to take back control of our housing and let everyday homeowners start to put the housing they need into their neighborhoods in sensitive ways, and this is our chance to do it.

M

We encourage you to approve it without change immediately, and we look forward to staying involved in this as it continues to evolve and grow and improve over time. Thank you very much.

B

Craig, thank you very much for your deputation and thank you. Joe. Are there any questions for the speakers? Okay, seeing none you've covered it all. Thank you, I'd like to call Sue Dexter, followed by Rachel collab, then Sitaram, color1, Singh and Nicholas Martino, so just get ready. Thank you very much. Welcome back to well well. Well, that's.

H

Right good morning, counselors it's quite a day. Actually it's been a long process and it's being a respectful process both on the part of those who would see lamely housing going in and and it's made it easier for the communities which which are divided on this or skeptical. You could call us sympathetic, skeptics, I, think from the beginning, our object, I'm from HP RA, which is lured to college, spent dining in two bathrooms.

H

Our objective has been to reach an informed consensus on how best we might accommodate new laneway Suites while doing the least disruption to our highly functioning growing community.

H

At the end of the day, we regret that there aren't better advance zone, affordability and- and that has to be an issue that that we grapple with as as a community going forward, we've suggested in our letter that losing internal parking space to internal parking within the unit could reduce costs, because the incentive to build a second story would be reduced.

H

It would also ensure that such major change to properties would remain directed to its purpose, which is to provide modest rental accommodation or, as best as modest could be. This should be picked up in them in the monitoring process and and we're looking at this as the end of phase one. Now we move into monitoring, and we have to be very rigorous on this because, together we have a chance of working toward making these Suites really work functionally in the community.

H

Kraig race came to me the wild goal there earlier today and he said good work on on the green on the green space and I said. Let's work together on implementing this, so I think one of the other things that we should one of the challenges to the development community is reach out to the communities. When you're going to put one in and and hold a meeting, you know get the neighbors involved, get everybody working toward realizing this, rather than simply the strike dead.

H

As of right here, it is, we don't have to tell you it's it's a challenge for all of us to collaborate and and I took Greg's remarks to me as being very positive and a good indicator of how we might jointly work together. Let's talk, trees for a minute, I was I was true, calculate 30, centimeters diameter at breast height. Does anybody know how big that actually is so the diameter at breast? Well, it's like this okay.

H

So so one of the positive things that this study has spawned is: let's look a DB H in a serious way, because those are the thriving, mature trees that could be impacted by these developments. So you have a tree. That's this big diameter. At breast height, it's gonna be 60 feet in the air. The forestry guys will know better than I, but it could be as high as 60 feet. That's a huge amount of canopy. So if we can address this going forward in a separate, let's, let's try to reduce that.

H

Okay, next thing is as of right: you're doing this as of right, let's ensure that the neighbors can fully participate in the monitoring process, so you say this is going in as of right, but in two years we're gonna be coming back to you to ask: how did it work? Did it work for the people in the sweet dough to work for the property owner? Did it work for the adjacent community that worked for the broader community?

H

So it has to be a full-bore consultation process going forward, in our view, the weir of good cheer at the end of the day here, the process has been good. The Greg ewtn's George Kontos is Corbin, Canberra came in in the end, councillor cressie came in other councillors, we've been working with over this time and and all the departments have been involved in this.

H

It's it's been a kind of silent operation where we bounced the departments and they bounced back to the planning and we're all bouncing around here, but I think we've come up with something that's reasonable. We do have cautions around the five meters. We worry about that Craig suggested photographs. Should be taken before and after and that would give us concrete proof of what actually happens in those real yards.

H

The city thrives in partnerships- let's let's partner, to do this properly and to make this really work, and maybe there have to be a adjustments in the long-term. But let's, let's see how it goes, sue.

B

Your time is up. Thank you. I was pretty good, go I, you were, you were excellent, but you do have just you were. You do have a question from cows or perks. Oh yes,.

H

Here we go what.

T

So I want to thank you. I know that you've.

D

Come a long distance to come and make these remarks today and.

Q

I and I appreciate it. It's that kind of spirit that, when.

D

We take the attitude you're taking in Toronto East York. We get things done. So thank you for that. You mentioned the tree piece and, and I've had my eye on that as well, I'm wondering so. If, if you look at what the supplementary report does by writing the tree protection piece in as part of the OPA, it actually gives it more teeth in.

T

Reviewing applications and in case anyone goes to the.

D

Committee of adjustment as well, then any other tree protection tool. We have on any other kind of application. Does that give you better.

E

H

I think there are two issues: one is that the root systems of adjacent trees could be implicated when there's been when, when a suite goes in, you've got denial of supply systems to the trees.

H

You know, if you started putting in hard surface we're just I confess we're after about as much as we can get on trees, we've lost trees, we've lost huge trees because they're just a shade under the 30 DB agent and and that's a that's a tragedy for the city, because, ironically, my neighbor took down their garage this week and the difference to my property was amazing because it suddenly looks like a garden all the way over to Robert Street. It's it's a relaxation property and we have to. We have to have relaxed spaces.

H

We have to have the ecosystems shouldn't, be fragmented. All those arguments with stormwater retention, but sheer beauty. The beauty of light in a tree is is, is a community resource. Okay,.

T

Thank you thank.

B

You very much any other questions. Okay, counselor, Davis, um I didn't hear you speak.

C

At all and I wonder if it came up in your consultation about any concern about businesses.

C

Occupying the secondary Suites and whether.

G

That would have impact well.

H

I said I think our criterion has always been if you're gonna put them in, let's make them rental, let's make them inexpensive, we're worried. We have illegal Airbnb on our street and in in our neighborhood already, which is which is using those suites for profit, I. Think if someone went in and was was and had a little computer, you know he's working on his home computer or something because people are working from home. Now.

H

That's that's absolutely acceptable, but I, don't if, if you suddenly have people coming to the property, that's a different thing and that becomes a commercial operation, but I know you were concerned last time about about flanking business, businesses and I. Think your neighborhood and ours. We don't have that condition so much yep.

I

B

Thank you very much, any other questions, seeing none sue. Thank you. Thank.

H

You guys, by the way.

B

I'd like to call Rachel de la be okay, sorry key leve key lab a.

B

Please correct me: if you like good.

G

Morning, how I ended up with a Turkish last name is a long story, but calleb a collab.

B

G

Good morning, council members and yes.

G

I'm, an architect and a member of the Ontario Association of Architects I'm here on their behalf, CoA, is extremely concerned about the provision of housing and specifically affordability, including all forms of infill in to exist urban fabric. All of us are familiar with the projected population growth for GTA. If the City of Toronto does not provide for this growth, it will go outside to green filled sites. There will be more Brampton's, more bonds. If the city does absorb this increased population, denser neighbourhoods are socially and economically air HOA I'm gonna ask you.

B

To just hang on I'm gonna hold your time for a moment and I'm gonna ask the those who are speaking in the room just to drop your voices or take your conversations outside. Please continue I've.

G

Personally, been a member of to be IAS and I know, the density of neighborhoods is very important for keeping the economic health of a neighborhood. Infill reduces the marginal costs for services, transportation and land living in a denser community, closer to shopping, work, schools and transportation reduces non building costs of living. Therefore, infill housing is an opera has an opportunity for being affordable.

G

Our president of the Oh, a John Stevenson, has written a letter regarding this particular application.

G

The Ontario Association of Architects would like to express its support for the initiative to introduce laneway Suites in Toronto laneway homes are an appropriate and sensitive means to add density to the historical neighborhoods in Toronto and an opportunity for new architecture reflecting the city's culture in the present, the OE acknowledges the excellent work on this matter by the City of Toronto Planning Department, the city councillors, who are supporting this initiative and landscaped who's, been assisting.

G

We're writing you to provide our support for the suggestion of an adjustment in the current proposed design guidelines for laneways Suites to eliminate the angular plane setback for the following reasons that we believe are in public interest number one. An angular plane setback would have the effect of prescribing one primary building forum for laneway Suites within a limited built volume on an already constrained footprint.

G

Eliminating the Giller plane setback would permit architects and designers to develop solutions within a variety of building volumes. The resulting variety of design approaches will help achieve a more vibrant and diverse urban environment, contributing to a livelier, City aesthetic without negatively impacting either the laneway or adjacent properties.

G

Point to an angular plane setback reduces the livable area of the laneway suite at the second floor level and renders an area approximately the size of a bedroom into unlivable space. Under the angle, if there was no angular plane, setback for relatively the same cost, a person investing in the construction of a laneway suite would gain an extra bedroom and, as has been discussed before, that opens out to a variety families, a whole variety of different living arrangements and certainly increases the affordability of that unit.

G

The oay supports the creation of new, affordable housing and regards an angular plane setback as an impediment to housing, a greater number of people more affording them affordably 0.3, achieving greater capacity and variety of affordable housing through a wider range of built form approaches is also consistent with the city of Toronto's, Official Plan, which advocates for and defends the affordable housing needs for Toronto the away thanks, you and your colleagues for bringing this issue to our attention, and we support you in your efforts to improve the plan. Bylaw john stevenson, architect. Thank you and.

B

Thank you for your deputation. Are there any questions for Rachel? Okay, seeing none! Thank you. Our next speaker is Sita Ram, kala, Wan Singh, followed by nicolas martino. If there are any other members of the public here to speak, please let us know and self to the clerk. I will also call Lauren Stevens, who owes name I called earlier, but was not here so Lauren. If you're here, please let us know and we'll have you as our final speaker, only three more speakers, that's right. Well, potentially three seated, please proceed when you're ready.

I

I don't know if you've had it read my updated letter good morning, everybody I'm glad it's still morning.

I

My name is sit around :, Singh I know many of you and have worked with you in various things. I live in the Grange neighborhood and I've lived there for close to 50 years. We do have laneway houses in our neighborhood and the houses that are there were introduced by a way of rezoning. Probably as long ago as 40 years ago, and by the way my letters number of two to seven I noticed.

I

So we were very glad to have had the opportunity for the one month. Deferral I think it has, as we said before, more haste, less speed that this month provided an opportunity to improve and refine some of the issues that we raised. The last time around. One of the proponents of this Lane, rehousing and and I said the last time I'm in favor of laneway Suites.

I

Send me an email last night saying that one of their learnings from this process was the need to work closely with residents associations who actually have on-the-ground experience of development issues. So in keeping with Craig races, comment to sue Dexter and Sue's comments. We think it's very important for this joint collaboration to take place and we look forward to doing that through the monitoring process. Now, I wanted just to speak to two or three issues and I want to specifically address the issue of sweets behind roll housing.

I

I've raised this with with with the planners and I, don't know how you can see this, but if these are row houses- and this is a laneway suite- I- would like to see a 1 meter setback from the side lot line and that's to deal with two issues. One has to deal with a quicker and easier in EMS and fire code, even though fire says that they could deal with this being a protection area. I, don't think that that's satisfactory. What happens in the four minutes of response time of five minutes of response time?

I

It would also be very important in terms of waste, receptacles, green bins and and other and and waste, and so on, and getting it around to the front of the of the of the unit. Currently, the existing proposal provides this separation on the side of the building. So I'm basically saying this should be mandated for some reason. Somebody says it's in the fire code: I don't know planning is said to me: they don't support it and I.

I

Don't understand why, but it would place both situations in a similar in a similar would provide both with a similar degree of protection with I support. One storey, as of right I, think the 45 angular plain issue would disappear if you just dealt with four stories with one story, the second story should probably be limited to existing garages, because I don't think we want to see more garages being built. The purpose of this is to provide housing.

I

So that's really all I want to say today. I look forward to any questions that you might have and I said and I could occur with a lot of Seuss remarks. You.

B

Know, thank you very much. Are there any questions? Reseda councillor, Krusty I, just.

F

Want to pick up on on the point raised you race either regarding the the absence of a side yard setback in a row, housing context is, is the the motivation behind that related to safety? If fire is comfortable with it or is it related to livability, as it relates to people being able to access and egress and so forth? Well,.

I

It's related to DOS those two things plus moving waste, receptacles, green bins and so on to the side street, because I don't know how you get it to the front of the house except you know: where are you gonna store those things? Are you going to store it inside of your tiny little laneways suite or you? You know you know and how we I mean. The planning report suggests that some arrangement could be worked out with the main house, but I.

I

Think if you want some kind of independence, it should probably be there so, but fire is actually the primary motivation. Livability and removing waste is another. Okay.

F

B

Thank you very much for the questions and for the answer. Anyone else. Okay, seeing none thank you cedar and our last speaker will be Nicholas Martino. Unless Lawrence Stevens is back in the room. No okay, nicholas Nicholas Martino going once twice three times: Lawrence Stevens. Okay, so we don't have any more speakers. Let's bring this matter into community council. Are there any members with questions of staff, counselor, Matt, low-cal, Surma, havoc.

J

Through you, madam chair, the question was raised by the South acquaintance: rapers residents association with regard to safe, safe access in the lane ways to to the new Suites for seniors others with mobility challenges. To cetera.

J

Has that been considered? Could you explain what you will do to the monitoring process and, moreover, what has been done to talk with your colleagues and transportation and any other relevant staff with concern to standards, maintenance, winter maintenance, all those matters that are not at the same standards as the typical street in Toronto today,.

T

Through the chair regarding the first question that yes, we we have tried to develop a set of policies in a zone, engrain work for these units, which will allow them to be built in a way that will allow for accessible units to be constructed, acknowledging that, in some cases where there are limited side yards or in the case of row houses, you may still be able to build a laneway suite, but one of the accesses would be via the lane itself, as opposed to a side yard next to the house.

T

If, in instances where a family member is living in the back yard, it's entirely possible and I think reasonable that that family member will be able to access the laneway suite through the main house and in cases where somebody may have mobility concerns with the location of the laneway suite that they're looking to lease they aren't related to the people living in the main house. That's something to factor into factors into their decision of whether or not to lease the unit in the first place. So I think with regard to the condition of laneways.

T

That's a choice. Somebody makes if they're going to at least one of the units, otherwise family member, they may be able to access the unit through the house in a lot of cases. With regard to the maintenance of laneway, as we met a number of occasions of occasions with transportation services staff who do have a budget in a program for the maintenance of laneways, they will be advised locations where new laneway suites are constructed the monitoring process and we'll be able to tailor any of their responses to maintenance.

T

Accordingly, and any other improvements to public lanes will be undertaken as improvements to roads or other public infrastructure is undertaken on an as-needed basis and what.

J

Is it? What is your feedback with respect to councilor REM Keller? One sings concerns regarding timing of emergency vehicles.

T

We've met with Toronto Fire Services on a number of occasions to make sure that the the criteria we were developing for laneways Suites, you know allowed for adequate emergency access. Now we're a suite is applied for through the building permit process, Toronto building staff and Toronto Fire Services staff will review the suite design to ensure that it meets the safety standards in the Ontario Building Code, and that is in at the discretion of buildings and fire staff. As with the construction of any unit and.

J

Last question: would you have any problem with with a request to meet with some seniors advocacy groups, along with their staff, implementing the senior strategy to discuss with them? You know your strategy as far as the monitoring implementation, we.

T

Would be happy to thank you thank.

B

You very much for the question. Councillor may have iqbal ABAI councillor crusty.

D

Chris was gonna: ask on the laneway the laneway possibilities for role housing. Did you ask that no sir counselor counselor Madeleine? Did you ask that that question I don't want to repeat sir I'll ask it again, then? Could you respond to Sitaram cleansings concerns and okay, you did okay, so you know that's answered again. Please sorry, okay,.

T

Threw the chair, in the case of a laneways suite, constructed behind row houses, the guidelines and the proposed zoning amendment, do allow for the construction of a suite behind a row how's that sweet, we'll still have to meet the requirements of the Building, Code and fire safety requirements and satisfy a tronto buildings and fires review that adequate emergency access is provided with regard to solid waste transportation to the front yard, mail and other functions of a suite, that's located in the rear yard. These are.

T

These all represents choices that a tenant may make when leasing the unit determining well. You know once a week I'm gonna have to walk some garbage around to the front, so it gets picked up or that my mailbox is going to be located on the front of the house and I'll pick up my mail that way. Those are considerations that have to be taken into account. I, don't feel that they're significant considerations that are significant enough to prevent the creation of a laneway suite on a lot that otherwise complies with all of our recommended criteria.

R

Okay, thank you. Thank.

B

You very much councillor mehek councillor, crusty, followed by councillor Davis anyone else. Okay, go ahead. Thank.

F

You I'm going to begin with my questions to the affordable housing office. I see the wonderful Shaun is here one of the questions that we had asked last month in looking at what to defer this was: does the city have the capacity to dictate rent? Can we say you must rent at this amount for all these suites or not I know you don't counselor, that's being investigated.

E

And you don't have that capacity so in.

F

The absence of the capacity for us to dictate the rents, the proposal that you've brought forward is 1 million dollars in this first year. Basically a grant of up to $50,000 to go towards the construction in return for keeping them at an affordable rate for 15 years. That's correct councillor and no do we have a sense. What is based on the CMHC average at an affordable rate of what is a one-bedroom at which would be in you know, downtown of Toronto in East York. What is a one-bedroom going for that'll.

E

Be so the average is $1,200, so we would essentially control that rent over the course of the 15 years to track the CMHC increases over that period of time. In.

F

A two-bedroom, the average two bedrooms at 14 26, and what would the expected uptake be? What do you expect for this million dollars we're putting in for the first year and we'll be reviewing? Are you anticipating an update based on you know your professional opinion, so.

E

Counselor my office currently runs the Toronto renovates program, which is used by homeowners, low-income homeowners, to assist them in making modifications to their homes. Last year we administered 147 of these grants were these forgivable loans to Toronto households. We have four staff in my office that are from the municipal buildings department that are experienced in doing the investigations and administering this money, so this is 20 more additional loans on top of the hundred and forty seven that we administered last year for homeowners. So we see this as really on just a tack on.

E

If you will to the current administration, we don't see any problem in terms of administering the twenty additional loans and we would expect full take-up and I would hope that, in fact, I could be back here next year suggesting to you that we extend this loan program so that we would get additional lamely houses that are affordable and.

F

Maybe go even deeper affordability, absolutely.

E

The money that is being proposed here is not City dollars. It's a city really want to get behind this initiative, there's also city funds that could be attached to this program going forward. Okay,.

F

Thank you. I'll come over to to Toronto buildings for a moment, so Muriel the measures in place to ensure compliance I mean one of the things that's being done and the changes here is in theory, there will be a net increase in soft scape and soft landscaping. So, for example, if you have a if a property has a rear yard, that is concrete and they wish to put a laneway suite in that rear yard, which is concrete, will have to be converted depending on the depth to 85% or 60% soft landscaping.

F

What measures do we have in place to ensure that that happens so.

D

As part of the building permit process, the review, of course, we review for compliance with the applicable zoning bylaw and would be applicable. Zoning bylaw the applicant would have to demonstrate on plans that the area that has to be soft landscape, as required by the bylaw, is in fact the depicted as soft landscaping. And, of course, we would inspect that as part of the building permit process. When we're inspecting the property I.

F

Guess the question I think so as part of the application you would have to demonstrate, in this case the soft landscaping and as part of the inspection, they would see it. One of the concerns we often have is you know. Frankly, people do things after the fact and it's it ends up being policing of each other's neighbors. So could we not put in place a condition that the occupancy permit would be granted on condition that this criteria had been met? Councillor.

D

No, unfortunately, City Council doesn't have the authority to intervene or step in the place of where, where there are provisions in the Building Code with respect to occupancy, so you could not introduce a bylaw that prohibits occupancy where the building code specifically outlines, where occupancy shall be granted. Occupancies of buildings, including this type of buildings, are not predicated to zoning compliance. So if there's enough zoning compliance non-compliance, we would still need to allow occupancy and.

F

And I'll just I'll go to City Planning with my final ten seconds. A lot of questions on cars in one question that's being raised, is you know if you're building a laneway suite from scratch and there's no existing a garage? Why not just have it for housing and not have a car? Is that something that you would be supportive of or willing to look at as part of the monitoring based on the uptake through.

T

The chair I think it's something we should look at through the monitoring period. The bylaw as written, is flexible to allow for the option to provide parking or not and I think it's will be interesting to see how that plays out during the monitoring period before we make any specific adjustments. Adjustments. Thank you. Thank.

B

You very much councillor our next councillor to questions councillor Davis, okay, I.

C

I know that they were, there are suggestions and deputy ins has said there is going to be more green space than is allowed currently or required currently under our zoning bylaw. But we are sharing backyards now, so our front yard and backyard.

C

We're confident at the five meter, separation and the minimum or maximum widths and are going to provide sufficient I guess outdoor amenity space basically, is what we call it for multi-unit dwellings. And how does it compare with the outdoor amenity space that we require for multi residential buildings? The.

T

Amount of outdoor amenity, space or rear yard space on a lot residential lot and including a lot with a laneway suite, greatly exceeds the minimum required amount of outdoor amenity space for an apartment or mixed-use development. The.

C

Tree protection, official plan amendment and amendments to the Municipal Code I was quite surprised to see that you found I was pleased to see that you strengthened. Those provisions are these provisions that we should or could could and should be putting into the Official Plan and amendments to the Municipal Code for all developments to ensure that we protect more trees. Could we do that? I.

D

Think that is three madam chair is something that we could certainly raise with our parks, Western Recreation colleagues.

H

But it is something we could take a look at in the larger context for the for the downtown. Now this.

C

Recommends that they refuse to grant permits, but how does that change the existing practice, because, right now, what we understand is they can't refuse? Maybe forestry.

D

I'm sure, if my colleagues from forestry here, but that is a separate process from a building permit process and the two shouldn't be intermingle necessarily so if a building permit complies with the applicable zoning bylaw, the chief building official is obligated to issue a building permit, despite the fact that that permit may result in the engine, injury, damage or removal of a tree that is necessarily protected under the tree bylaw right, because the private tree bylaw and the city tree bylaw are not listed as applicable laws.

D

Having said that, the fact that you have a building permit that doesn't mean that it's all the necessary approvals that are required to undertake a construction. There are other approvals, so they would still need to obtain the necessary approval to remove or injure the tree. Of course, if they injured or remove the tree illegally or without permission, there are. There are penalties under that bottle, but.

C

There's nothing different about the process that's proposed here than what currently exists, for instance, for an as of right approval other than your strengthening the language in the Official Plan. For this specifically o P 403. Is that correct.

D

I'll speak just to the building permit process and enough no.

C

Different, it's.

D

No different, okay.

C

So, forestry, this requests you to go and talk to an applicant. If there's a proposal to remove a tree, it asks you to refuse and I'm wondering how that's different than what we currently have as a practice.

C

It's forestry here they.

T

Are I just quickly? My understanding of the process is that, right now, urban forestry will generally approve permits to remove a bylaw tree if it's required for as of right, construction of a building. The way that this differs is this direction given to forestry staff, to refuse that permit and to direct the applicant to come talk with City Planning staff and forestry to look at redesigns to the suite to preserve the tree that you know it's.

C

That different, it's, what I'm asking, because that is my understanding of what currently happens, is.

T

That, yes, sir okay,.

B

I have other questions. Perhaps forestry staff can answer.

P

Hi, my name is Roy Camilla denotes I work with the City of Toronto urban forestry policy and planning group. So the permit the fact that urban forestry would refuse the permit to issue the tree, removal or injury would the only difference would be in that that the applicant would then need to look into other ways to to protect the tree. They would need to look into other ways of construction in order not to contravene the bylaw. However, they would still have their building permits. So, yes,.

B

So, what's different.

C

Building a legal building permit yeah that overrides our private tree protection by law. That's we haven't changed that yeah.

P

Because we cannot change our bylaws.

C

Really, the only change is that we're strengthening the direction in terms of the refusal.

P

That's right: we are encouraging the applicant to talk to the City, Planning and forestry to all your gonna, be the meat.

C

In the sandwich event anyway, I wanted to I wanted to ask council.

B

Davis your time is, have you have you've gone six minutes? Do you want to ask one final question I want to ask more than that? Well, I'd like to come back then. Yes, we can also do that. Are there any other questions from councillors our councillors wanting a second round starting with councillor Davis?

B

Okay, I do okay! So let's, uh let's proceed I just I just want to! Let folks know I have to vacate the chair. I would really love to be voting on this and recorded in the affirmative. The affirmative I've also got a motion, but unfortunately I've got to leave in five minutes. So councillor Davis. Why don't you just proceed here? I, don't I don't want to delay it simply because people been waiting. All and I know that this has been deferred items so but go ahead.

B

I just don't think I'll be here to vote for it then I.

C

Wanted to ask about the amendment in Opie 403, which look is intended to deal with applications for severance, so you have contemplated that there may be situations where applicants will then come forward and say we want to sever our land. Tell me how these standards, or these I don't know what you call these requirements would prevent that, or does it threw.

T

The chair in, in our opinion, the proposed policies really restrict the opportunity to sever Suites constructed, except in some very specific instances.

T

We are not saying an application cannot be submitted, but if that application is submitted, the policies specifically policy f on page 30 and 31, contain a list of criteria that would have to be met for support of that application. Those criteria are difficult to meet in all, but some exceptional cases and from a process point of view. A zoning bylaw amendment will be required, along with one of the applications under the Planning Act or the condominium Act, to consider that severance or division of lands. It.

C

Would be a zoning bylaw amendment along.

T

With an requisite application under the Act and.

C

Finally, there was a suggestion by one of the deputies that we should put in provisions about walkways to the street.

C

Can you comment.

I

T

The the bylaws as they're written actually the the building code, is it as it applies to the construction of these Suites, would require sort of an emergency access route or allow access via the laneway in instances where there isn't an accurate side yard.

T

The way that these guidelines in this this process is structured access to these sweets would be in either of those two options and so properties that didn't have adequate side yard access or were not within 45 meters, for instance, of a public street along a laneway would not be able to construct a code compliant laneway suite as our understanding at the discretion of toronto fire in toronto buildings.

T

D

You any other members for okay, Telstra, Fletcher, I,.

I

Just had BIA be in touch today and just ask about commercial laneways where there are, is loading and I'm wondering what pardon.

F

I

Understand the zones RCR commercial residential zones, so it's not as I understand it. Are they allowed in the CR zones? Long commercial strips under.

T

The the current zoning, the CR zones have a broad range of permissions, including residential and commercial and setback in density requirements, which could allow somebody to build a residential unit toward the rear of the site in a way that would appear. There share similar characteristics to a laneway suite which will be built. It was proposed in a residential zone.

I

On the opposite song that let's say that yes,.

T

I

On the south side, sharing a come Elaine for their commercial purpose with residents who are across the lane. So what is they've asked me to ask about that, and is anybody here from Economic Development or they you had a conversation with.

T

Well, I'm, not sure if anybody from the economic development office is here, we have considered whether or not is appropriate for a laneway Suites to be constructed adjacent commercial lanes. In our view, there exists a number of instances where a commercial residential use relationship exists in close proximity to each other, and this is similar to that relationship. I think it comes down to a design matter if you're building a suite fronting on a commercial lane. The design of the suite should have regard as to what is happening on the other side of the lane.

T

I think that's something we can provide some advice about in the guideline documents, but as for zoning and use permissions, the commercial residential relationship exists in a number of other instances and we feel it's appropriate in this one as well. So.

I

It actually has to do with the use of the lane and the loading large trucks, etc would get already an issue. Have you contemplated that? Yes,.

T

I

C

Any other members of council to.

D

Ask any questions seeing none! Oh sorry, councillor your to speak. Okay, so I'm gonna take a speaker's list just a moment.

D

Counselor my havoc I saw your hand up. You have yes, I've seen that there's so many hands and seeing that it's 12:15 last month. My concerns were around the affordability issue, issues and I'm very pleased that there are. There was a program that is being envisaged, I'm very happy with that I think other things were added in this last month. That I think are positive.

D

I do have a motion in the motion really is to look at a staff to start to review possible options related to, while the second phased, an appropriate properties without laneways and to report back in the fourth quarter of 2019, which staff is happy with so that areas of the city that are not in the downtown and I'd say: Midtown there'd be a number of places where, where I do have people that are very interested in this in this kind of a program and would love to be able to to add a unit where their garages but are not able to simply because there's not a laneway in their back yard.

D

So this would allow those folks to also benefit from this kind of program and the city to benefit from this kind of a program from talking to staff. They have some work to do on that. There are different design guidelines and issues that are raised by this, but let them explore it and they'll come back in 2019 with that. That said, I am I'm good I think this is in a good place and I think it will be a good thing for our city.

D

Any questions of the mover I have one councillor my havoc, so I'm, just wondering about your motion, you're aware that we have like something in the Official Plan that prohibits a house behind a house. So how do you? How will this be in contradiction to that? Possibly, have you considered that? Yes, yes, I have and it's frankly it's no different than a laneway house. It's just laneway house is a house behind a house laneways suite behind its.

I

D

To include sweets on appropriate properties, it's the same as it is now. The only difference is is right, but you're aware that we don't allow housing behind housing through RF in our official plan. You are aware of that. I am aware that okay, thank you.

D

You have five minutes.

J

So what is your, what is your interpretation of the term appropriate places.

D

Well, I think that's to be defined and I. You know I'd look forward to staffs report on it. I could see many an instance where it would not be appropriate because of a shadow impacts or tightness of the lot size of the law depth of the lot, but I would see many instances. I'm thinking of Forest Hills Cedarville wait no crest communities where, where, in fact that it would be very appropriate today,.

J

What could you give an example of what what is an appropriate place in your view like what? What do you? What are you referring to a.

D

A place that has a frankly a driveway and they have an independent garage to have a unit on top of the garage or to flip their garage into a two-story suite to serve their parents, their children, the nanny, whatever Joe Cressy.

D

E

Know you can live.

D

F

The chickens Mike.

D

Won't take you I'll, take ya.

D

I'm sorry, there any other questions to counsel my havoc. No okay, um I have councillor cressie up next, you have five minutes and if you have a motion, please introduce it at the start. I.

F

Thank you and I'm going to introduce a motion and a couple amendments. First of all, the motion I'm moving the supplementary recommendations and then I have a couple amendments which I'll explain here related to cars related to trees and related to row housing as part of the report back we're looking for next year for parks or serene rec staff to report directly to TYC C on the tree by law with respect to laneway housing.

F

Specifically in particular, we want to look at I would say private trees in the diameter width of trees, but we're asking staff to report back also as part of the monitoring one of the things I think we need to look at through the monitoring process. Frankly, is cars and a question I have is for properties that don't have a garage? Do we need cars?

F

Should we pre prioritizing the laneway going forward as for housing and livability or for cars, and that's something I think as part of the monitoring we need to look at, along with the question that's being raised, related to RO housing and so asking staff to look at those, and those are the amendments that I'm moving along with the supplementary recs. Let me begin my comments, first of all, by thanking all those involved councillors McMahon and by Lao, who introduced this and it being tenacious over a year to get us to this point.

F

Our city staff, who I think have have done an honest, Edd's level of consultation on this and work with local stakeholders and in particular, local residents, associations who are here today and have been here all along and have prepared not only 29, page memos but full audit of neighborhoods and how this would look on a street by street Lane by Lane basis, and so I want to thank all of them: staff, stakeholders and the residents for their of engagement. I approach. This and I talked a little bit about it.

F

At the last meeting from three broad principles. The first is that we need more purpose-built rental options. That's a first principle, not just mid rises and high rises for rental, but new, diverse, purpose-built, rental housing options, because the city is changing. People will not be owning property in the future at grade. We need more rental options in the market. That's one principle. The second principle is that the established neighborhoods are special and unique, and we have to be very deliberate and collaborative when we look at as of right changes to the established neighborhoods.

F

There are those who say it is time to break up the established. Neighborhoods I, don't believe, that's the case. I think that would be a tremendous loss. Rather, we need to look at how we allow and manage change within the established neighborhoods. That's the second principle, and the third principle for me is affordable housing that we must at all times, do everything we can to increase the amount of available, affordable housing in our city and not just to increase the overall amount, but to ensure that we are building mixed income neighborhoods in our city.

F

It's not one or the other, and so the supplementary report, I think, has really addressed many of these issues to a way that I think is vastly improved this report on landscaping and trees and, in fact, I think this will result in an increased in soft, scraping on issues like encroachments and where the a/c units go.

F

The stronger language to prevent severance is in the opie I, think the better review and monitoring process and the affordable housing program and I want to really recognize the strong work that our chair of our committee, councilor by Lao and the office has done to make sure that we roll that out and I think hopefully expand upon it.

F

I think you know in in closing I would say that the big picture is that we do need more rental housing options, that we can't expect people to own property, but that it must be done in a neighborhood context and it must result in increased mixed income, affordable, neighborhoods, I'm hopeful that the proposal in front of us will work in that I'm hopeful by waving DC's making this as of right in a carefully constructed model, we'll see more people build rental, I'm hopeful.

F

We see that I'm also hopeful that, with the pilot program through the affordable housing office, we'll see an uptake in the number of affordable units. I'm hopeful I'm also hopeful that the monitoring process we've put in place at two years or a hundred units that we'll be able to see what works and adapt and modify and tweak to make it better and I would also say as a cautionary note. That far too often in this debate, there have been those who said the answer to these issues of affordable housing and rental housing is simply supply.

F

That is not the case that our job as decision-makers and councillors here is to weigh it all and to look at how do we build liveable equitable, sustainable and accessible neighborhoods and I?

F

Think in weighing all of those criteria, I'm more than satisfied that we have got it right here, I think it's rigorous, I think it's thoughtful I think it's time to proceed and I want to again echo the thanks to the neighborhood's to the stakeholders and the staff, because this point of collaboration to get to this excellent report will only continue and that's what it's going to make it a success. Thank.

D

You thank you very much. Councillor Matt Lowe.

J

J

Yes, thank you. I have a motion to reflect what was requested before, which I think is completely reasonable- that that our senior strategy, along with seniors advocacy organizations, be participants in the discussion about how to move forward to ensure that standards are set in a way that we have safe and an accessible lane ways for those who choose to move into them.

J

Last month, I. You know I recall when, when there were, there are a group of people here who all seem to support this initiative in principle, and there was up into a point of very respectful and I think very positive discussion happening and then, and then there was some some concerns raised.

J

Counselor's havoc and Cressy raised the question about affordability. They didn't say I know it can be more affordable or or it you know can't they said what, if we could and because they asked that question they actually got an answer that is going to contribute to making this a more affordable mission. I think that's a good thing.

J

Councillor Davis asked about tree protection. That's a really good thing to ask about. We care about our trees and we care about our canopy and we care about our environment and we care about how they contribute to our quality of life and I, really respect the fact that councillor Davis delved into that I think it's really important our ratepayers associations, many residents came here and what I heard from them. The the spirit of their comments was never we want to obstruct. We don't want to get in the way. It was simply.

J

We have genuine things that we want to ask about, and we want to be part of this conversation and we want to work with advocates like evergreen and others, and we want to be partners in this and we want to move forward and that's what I heard again today and so community council decided to defer this for one month and one month only to address those specific questions and specific concerns so that everyone could win right.

J

Everybody could come together and move forward in a really positive way to support something I heard everyone say is positive, and after that it was amazing. You know, there's a column, I read that basically derided that whole thing is like you know, there's those bums at City Hall, just getting into bureaucracy again and holding up things for no reason, and it was just like really it's just kind of it didn't really reflect what I heard. Actually here that day, it was like that is like that.

J

Individual who I have a lot of respect for wasn't in the room and didn't really understand the motivation I heard from some counselors and others who were very dismissive of those of you who asked for that time to come together and have a really respectful conversation, but hadn't before and I thought that was unfair and what what I see today, along with the supplementary report that staff worked on in in response to those requests, was now now I.

J

Believe we're actually going to have every counselor here, with the support of our neighborhoods unanimously moving forward with something that is a really thoughtful report and a thoughtful initiative that will contribute to a more diverse housing stock, a more affordable housing stock, more options for people. I heard some really compelling stories. Today that gentleman who's got a child with severe disabilities, I hope this I hope this really contributes to their quality of life. I really do many people have aging parents, I do and I think this is another option for people.

J

I think that's really important. I love that there was a comment earlier about how this makes it a more fun city like walking through the lane ways and and safer counselor Troi's was talking about how you know more eyes on the street. I mean there's so many good reasons to do this, but it was because people who had already decided it was awesome, and then people who said sounds good but I've got questions came together and arrived at a resolution.

J

That's healthy democracy to me that that that friction was good, that you know that contest of ideas was good. That's exactly what we're supposed to be doing here and I just hope. This is a lesson for all of us that, on on issues like this, it's okay to question, it's okay to say: I, don't get it! Okay to say, I've got a problem with something as long as we meaningfully come together and try to arrive at a resolution. We did that and I'm really I'm really impressed with the councillors who brought those questions forward.

J

I'm really impressed with the residents who who brought those concerns forward, but but didn't come in like crossed arms, we're open to working those out councillor, man and and to conclude very impressed with cancer by Lao for championing this initiative. Okay, thank.

D

You very much councillor Matt Lowe. We are now one minute from.

I

Extension to finish this, no.

D

Unfortunately, we're not going to move any extensions because councillor Wang team will be here for that one.