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Toronto and East York Community Council, meeting 32, May 2, 2018 - Part 1 of 2
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0:06:26 - Call to order
A
A
A
The
chair
and
members
of
Toronto
Shore
community
council
gratefully
acknowledge
that
our
committee
is
meeting
on
the
traditional
territories
of
the
Mississauga's
of
the
new
credit
First
Nations,
the
hold
ishani
and
the
Huron
when
dot
Toronto
remains
home
to
many
indigenous
communities,
and
we
are
grateful
to
be
here.
We
will
begin
our
meet
I'm.
Sorry.
Are
there
any
declarations.
I
will
call
for
declarations
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
Act,
seeing
none
can
I.
Please
have
a
mover
to
confirm
the
minutes
of
April
the
4th
2018.
That's
councillor,
Freddie
Dacus.
A
Thank
you
for
those
members
of
the
public
are
here
to
speak
to
any
matters
on
the
agenda.
I
ask
that
you
can
identify
yourself
to
the
clerk
and
they
will
update
you
on
our
speakers.
Listen
I
will
call
you.
When
your
item
is
before
us.
We
will
begin
our
meeting
today
on
page
number,
73
of
the
goldenrod
sheets,
starting
with
te
32.3,
nine
appointments
to
business
improvement
area
boards
of
management,
affecting
many
words.
Yes,
I
can't
sir
Chrissie
Speaker.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much,
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
item
as
amended
any
post
that
carries
thank
you,
te
30,
2.40,
27
to
37,
Yorkville,
Avenue
and
26
to
32
and
50
Cumberland
Street
public
art
plan.
I
would
like
to
move
the
recommendations
in
the
staff
report,
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
Te
32.4,
one
designation
of
fire
routes,
an
amendment
to
chapter
8,
8,
0,
fire
routes
to
strong
Avenue,
1,
1,
1,
princes,
Boulevard
or
19.
A
A
C
C
A
C
I
would
just
I
wanted
to
tell
a
quick
story
about
where
how
this
report
came
about,
but
I
can
wait
until
it's
turn
on
the
agenda.
If
you
want
me
to
hold
it,
that's
why.
C
Seconds
developer
comes
in
for
a
site
plan,
application
walks
into
the
office
and
says
here's
here's
my
plan,
we're
just
going
through
the
regular
process,
already
pre
zoned
for
28
stories.
It's
located
beside
a
park
so
I
said:
would
you
consider
putting
a
childcare
in
the
podium
of
the
building?
He
said
give
us
a
week.
They
came
back
in
a
week
and
said
we'll
do
it
I
said
what
do
you
need?
They
said
three
extra
stories
on
the
building.
C
If
you
do
the
math,
it's
a
five
million
dollar
childcare
center,
fully
outfitted
like
this,
isn't
the
shell.
This
is
a
fully
outfitted
50
child
daycare
and
well.
The
keys
will
be
handed
over
to
the
city
that
we
will
own
for
those
those
three
stories.
We
did
an
immediate
public
consultation
got
overwhelming
support
from
the
community
and
thanks
to
the
hard
work
of
staff
and
in
particular,
the
work
of
the
developer,
to
drive
this
forward,
we
are
going
to
have
Liberty
villages.
First
daycare
and
it'll
be
City
on.
C
A
C
A
A
A
B
A
E
A
A
G
A
A
All
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
Te.
Thirty,
two
point:
five
one
extensions.
So
our
construction
staging
area,
time
extension,
175,
191,
Dundas,
Street,
East,
427
I,
will
be
moving
the
recommendations
in
the
staff
report
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
T
thirty,
two
point:
five,
two
construction
staging
area,
Rover
nurse
Street
and
st.
Luke,
Lane,
480,
494,
Yonge,
Street
or
27
I-
will
be
moving
to
adopt
the
staff
recommendations,
all
the
necessary
additional
conditions
that
we
wanted
are
now
embedded
in
the
report.
A
A
A
C
B
A
A
F
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I'll
move
the
staff
recommendations
there
and
note
that,
if
what
we're
doing
there
is
for
the
non
winter
months,
rather
than
have
15
day
a
week,
15
day
a
month
alternate
side
parking
we're
doing
it
month
by
month,
which
actually
cuts
in
half
the
number
of
times
that
the
parking
police
can
hit
your
residence.
D
F
The
experiment
is
moving
from
15
days,
alternate
side
parking
to
one
month,
alternate
side
parking,
so
everyone
knows
it's
the
first
of
the
month,
whatever
day
the
week,
it
is,
and
that
way
it
has
the
number
of
times
that
the
parking
police
you
know
at
9
a.m.
in
the
morning
they
come
out
and
start
the
dinging
people.
And
then
your
office
is
flooded
with
a
phone
call,
so
we're.
G
Would
just
like
to
a
point
on
that?
I
would
like
everyone
to
know
that.
A
number
of
years
ago,
City
Council
passed
a
motion
that
I
had
made
to
lengthen
the
grace
period
of
mornings
and
that
Toronto
police
operations
have
refused
to
comply
with
that,
although
it
is
well
within
their
jurisdiction,
so
we've
asked
them
a
number
of
times,
but
it
is
a
police
matter.
Parking
enforcement
refuses
so
I'm
happy
to
try
to
get
that
fixed
with
you,
counselor,
yes
or.
A
Are
we
moving
the
rock
recommendations?
Yes,
I'm
moving
approval;
okay,
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
Teehee
32.6,
0
parking
amendments,
Charles,
Street,
West,
427
I
would
like
to
move
the
recommendations
in
the
staff
report
and
to
thank
staff
for
actually
producing
the
report.
We
keep
tweaking
this
little
section
of
the
neighborhood
along
the
roadways
to
try
to
make
it
safer
for
pedestrians
and
easier
for
for
cars
and
every
other
person
using
the
road.
So
thank
you
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
A
T
32.6
one
parking
amendments,
Cooper
Street,
Freeland,
Street,
War
28x,
madam
chair
I'm,
going
to
hold
the
item
I'm
still
waiting
for
a
technical
adjustment.
You
have
it
okay,
then
I'll
move
to
approve
the
staff
recommendations.
Oh
sorry,
let's
move
the
amendment
for
the
amendment.
Okay,
thank
you
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
item
as
amended,
and
he
posed
carried
okay.
Thank
you
and
thanks
clerks
for
getting
that
ready.
J
A
G
G
A
A
B
Going
to
move
the
staff
recommendations
and
I
just
want
to
say
quickly.
This
is
a
new
traffic
signal
on
Spadina
that
staff
are
recommending
immediately
across
from
an
indigenous
seniors
resident,
wigwam,
in'
and
adjacent
to
a
library,
and
I
think
this
is
the
type
of
vision,
zero
measure
that
we
need
to
see.
More
of
and
I
want
to
thank
transportation
staff
for
bringing
this
forward
all.
A
J
J
J
D
You
very
much
good
morning,
everyone
so
I
will
move
the.
What
am
I
moving
here?
The
alternate
recommendations-
and
you
may
have
read
about
this
street
in
the
news
recently
when
I
think
the
star
was
doing
something
on
vision,
zero,
but
so
this
actually
this
street
would
have
met
the
warrants
shockingly.
Had
we
changed
them
from
you
know.
We
lowered
the
residential
speed
limit
to
30
kilometers,
but
we're
still
doing
the
warrants
at
10
kilometers
over,
but
we're
using
40
kilometers,
and
so
that
we
need
a
discussion
on
that.
D
A
A
A
A
A
Will
put
that
on
the
screen
for
you
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries
t
32.7
for
speed,
hums
poll
results,
st.
Joseph,
Street,
427
I
would
like
to
move
the
alternative
recommendations
in
the
report
as
well.
The
item
is
that
the
motion
is
on
the
stream,
all
those
in
favor
that
carries
thank
you,
te
30
2.75
west,
over
Hill
Road
parking
regulations,
421
Your.
A
A
Those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you,
te
thirty-two
point:
seven,
six
use
of
Nathan
Phillips
Square
for
various
events
from
July,
1st
2018
to
April,
30th,
2019
or
27.
I
would
like
to
move
the
recommendations
and
the
staff
report,
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you
very
much.
Te
32.7
7
endorsement
of
events
for
liquor,
licensing
purposes.
I
will
just
hold
that
down
in
case
there
are
last-minute
additions
and
amendments,
which
means
we
are
now
at
t.
Thirty,
two
point:
seven
eight.
A
A
A
Done
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries
everybody.
Take
a
note
of
item
numbers.
You
can
copy
and
paste
for
future
correspondence.
Te
30
2.80
parking
amendment
for
Rock,
Avenue,
Ward
18
and
we're
holding
that
for
councilor
by
Lao
held
by
councillor
McMahon.
Or
would
you
like
to
move
the
recommendations
in
the
letter?
No.
A
Those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
Te
32
point.
Eight
eight
done
downtown
young
Business
Improvement
area,
2018,
Park,
lab
program
war,
27
I'd
like
to
move
the
recommendations
in
the
letter
and
congratulate
the
downtown
community
for
another
summer,
parklets
that
you
will
get
to
enjoy.
Surely
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed?
Thank
you
that
carries
so.
We
are
now
moving
to
time
items
starting
with
te
32.1
naming
of
a
public
Lane
south
of
a
Danforth
Avenue
extending
easterly
from
Carla
Avenue
then
southerly
to
Harcourt
Avenue,
Ward
30.
A
G
G
A
D
You
very
much
I
will
just
I'm
gonna,
move
staff
recommendations,
but
I'd
just
like
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
Andy
Olivet,
who
unfortunately
passed
away
recently
of
cancer,
but
he
so
he
came
to
Canada.
He
emigrated
when
he
was
2
years
of
age
arrived
here
with
his
family
and
they
were
instrumental.
If
you
know
the
beach
area
in
building
the
Estonian
houses
on
Queen
Street
way
further,
all
the
way
east,
almost
by
Councillor,
Crawford's
Ward
there
and
then
from
then
on.
D
So
he's
he's
he's
quite
the
icon
in
in
the
Estonian
community
in
Toronto,
as
well
as
the
beach
community,
and
he
had
I
mean
he
was
a
bit
of
a
king
of
Kensington
had
a
way
with
people
getting
them
involved,
encouraging
active
living
for
seniors,
getting
them
out
to
queue.
He's
very
involved
with
the
Q
Tennis
Club
he's
very
involved
with
our
our
Q
skating
rink.
He
was
you
know.
D
People
often
forget
that
we
have
a
lake
down
there,
that's
actually
beautiful
and
clean
and
and
warmish
that
you
can
swim
in
and
that
we
should,
instead
of
hiking
up
to
our
cottage,
the
cottages
and
whatnot.
We
can
swim
in
the
lake
and
this
guy
would
not
only
swim
in
Donald
Somerville
pool
every
day,
but
he
would
swim
from
his
house
across
the
lake
to
get
to
the
pool
and
he
tried
to
encourage
everyone
to
do
so
as
well
as
seniors,
so
he
was
loved
very
much
loved
in
the
community.
D
A
You
councillor
McMahon,
for
that
wonderful,
wonderful
tribute
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you,
te
32.3,
25
and
35
Liberty
Street,
58,
Atlantic,
Avenue
and
51
261
and
865
Jefferson,
Avenue
zoning
amendment
and
rental
housing,
demolition
and
conversion
application.
This
is
the
final
report.
I
believe
that
there
are
definitely
a
number
of
speakers
I'm
going
to
suggest
at
the
request
of
counselors
counselors
perks.
A
The
suggestion
that
we
hear
the
two
items
together
following
the
this
item
is
te
32.4
alterations
to
a
designated
heritage
property
intention
to
designate
under
part
four
section:
29
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
and
authority
to
enter
into
a
heritage,
easement
agreement,
11:58
Atlantic
Avenue.
A
number
of
the
speakers
listed
on
those
two
items
are
the
same
names.
So
if
you
would
like
to
combine
your
deputation
we'd
love
to
hear
it
sorry
can
you
hold
on
please.
A
Note
that
says
so:
I've
just
received
some
clarification
instructions
from
the
clerk
to
make
sure
that
those
two
items
are
heard
separately
so
in
the
interest
of
clarity
and
process
of
integrity.
I'm,
going
to
request
that
our
first
item
to
be
heard
right
now
is
item
number
three,
which
is
the
planning
final
report
following
that:
we'll
listen
to
deput
ins
on
item
number,
four
for
those
who
want
to
speak
to
the
heritage
matter,
so
I
would
call
our
first
speaker
Dermot
Sweeney
from
Sweeney
&,
Company
architects
and
you
are
not
Dermot.
L
Thank
you
really.
What
I
wanted
to
get
up
and
talk
to
you
about
is
really
to
thank
everyone.
This
has
been
a
process
we've
been
through
for
a
little
over
two
and
a
half
years
since
we
applied
it's
very,
very
critical.
This
kind
of
building
gets
built
in
Toronto.
We
are
seeing
we're
very,
very
involved
in
office,
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
companies
now
start
to
look
outside
of
Toronto,
because
we
literally
have
no
space
we're
below
four
percent
vacancy.
L
Many
companies
that
have
invested
time,
money
and
located
in
Liberty
Village
are
growing
and
can't
find
new
space
I
think
is
very,
very
critical.
We
have
worked
diligently
with
staff
heritage,
planning
staff,
housing
everybody
through
the
process,
I'd
like
to
personally
thank
all
of
them,
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
ended
up
with
a
great
result,
thanks
also
to
councillor
perks,
who's
been
a
great
supporter
of
employment
in
this
employment
district
on
the
Heritage
one
thing,
I
will
say
we
have
we're
very
proud
of
the
fact.
L
Planning
report
does
refer
to
the
Heritage,
so
all
I
would
like
to
say
is
we
work
very
very
hard
from
day
one?
We
all
recognized
the
one
building
as
being
very
important,
as
did
heritage
staff
at
City
Hall.
We
have
allowed
that
building
to
be
listed
and
we've
worked
together
to
save
the
building,
create
an
atrium
space
and
do
a
great
project
and
thanks
to
everyone.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
So
the
one
piece
that
I'm
curious
about
with
the
rental
replacement-
yes,
my
understanding
is
there's
another
building
being
built.
Yes,
yes
and
tenants
are
gonna
be
moving
into
there.
Can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
how
the
timing
of
those
two
things
of
your
development
and
the
other
development,
where
the
rental
replacement
goes?
Yes,.
L
L
L
C
L
Stories
we
reduced
the
height
by
a
little
over
88
meters.
Two
stories
were
taken
off.
The
other
issues
that
were
brought
up
were
the
proximity
of
the
new
building
to
the
face
of
the
heritage
building
and
to
the
face
of
the
street.
So
the
setbacks
on
along
the
east
side
of
the
project
above
the
heritage
building
were
increased
from
3
meters
to
5
meters.
L
The
rear
setback
was
increased
and
the
north
setback
was
reduced,
but
still
maintained
over
5
meters
back
of
the
heritage
buildings
face
the
north
face
of
the
building.
So
essentially
there
was
about
40
50
thousand
square
feet
taken
off.
There
was
two
floors
removed
and
the
setbacks
were
increased
back
from
the
street
faces
or
the
heritage
face.
L
Believe
it
will
be
paid
parking
parking
monthly.
The
market
is
changing
very
rapidly,
which
is
great,
I,
think
the
King
Street
project,
other
things
have
helped.
We
see
less
demand
for
cars.
We
have
established
a
certain
number
of
cars.
We
were
approached
at
one
point
by
TPA
and
we
haven't
heard
back,
but
yes,
it
will
be
paid
parking.
C
I,
don't
think
TPA
right
now
will
want
to
have
anything
to
do
with
purchasing
land.
Just
for
the
correct
you
know
in
the
short
term,
however,
I
think
that
that's
something
that
you
should
pursue
because
that
lot
across
the
street,
could
you
make
a
nun
or
something
more
valuable.
I'm
the
the
developer
still
has
appeal
rights
to
the
board,
correct,
like
with
all
this
switch
over
from
to
the
L
Pat
I,
believe
so
because
of
the
timing.
I
can
confirm
this
with
staff.
C
C
M
You
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
Why
are
we
here
so
late?
We
made
we
need
depositions
to
these
city
councilors,
two
of
them.
A
year
ago
we
put
an
article
on
our
website,
circulated
it
widely,
and
we
started
a
petition
that
has
903
signatures
in
our
support,
which,
in
a
very
local
issue,
is
quite
a
bit.
So,
although
I'm
here
at
this
late
date,
hope
you'll,
forgive
me,
we
got
here
as
fast
as
we
could.
Why
is
this
important
heritage?
This
is
wind
power.
M
Back
in
1834,
you
see
the
largest
piece
of
equipment
in
the
city
on
the
on
the
left
on
the
screen.
It's
a
wind
engine
how
they
used
it
at
Seagram's
to
make
a
very
important
product
in
early
tronto
in
1899,
you
can
see
that
wind
was
the
featured
product
in
the
Toronto
Industrial
Exhibition,
so
throughout
the
19th
century
it
was
hugely
important
to
our
heritage.
In
2002
the
exhibition
place
has
a
great
big
wind
turbine
and
wind
is
going
to
be
very,
very
important
in
our
future.
M
First
Nations,
the
First
Nations,
lived
here
very
quickly,
I've
taken
the
Philpott's
map
that
shows
the
trails
and
clearings
the
First
Nations
use
and
I've
overlaid
them
here.
So
right
in
the
top
top
left
Center,
you
see
a
Red
Square,
that's
where
the
buildings
are,
and
it's
essentially
Liberty.
Street
is
a
straightened
out
version
of
the
previous
native
trail
that
went
through
two
clearings.
Interestingly,
one
of
them
is
over
by
the
carpet
factory
on
the
left.
The
one
on
the
right
is
right,
where
Liberty
Village
has
their
market
trading
area
the
shopping
plaza.
M
So
this
building
is
is
long
at
the
heart
of
a
trade
and
Innovation
Centre.
And
what
are
we
asking
for
this?
This
red
building
that
you
see
here
on
the
left
is
25
Liberty
on
the
front
is
35
Liberty
currently
covered
with
stucco
and
yet-to-be-built.
The
time
this
rendering
was
made
is
65
Jefferson,
which
is
like
that
building,
but
it's
bigger
like
bookends
225.
M
A
M
A
K
On
a
point
of
order
to
be
clear,
the
the
planning
report
references
the
heritage
matters,
so
they
this
is
why
I
was
suggesting
we
consider
them
together,
but
now
that
the
clerk
has
suggested
we
deal
with
them
separately,
I
would
encourage
everyone
who
has
anything
to
say
on
this
to
speak
on
the
first
item
so
that
there
so
that
they
preserved
any
appeal
rights.
Should
they
wish
to
appeal.
Okay,.
M
A
M
A
M
You
so
you
can
see
the
the
heritage
buildings
can
be
retained
and
the
entire
upper
structure
is
still
there
now
in
drawing
this
rendering,
we
haven't
attempted
to
design
things
for
the
developer,
but
they
could
still
build
their
atrium
above
the
building
or
they
could
attach
the
back
of
the
building
directly
to
the
to
their
Lobby.
The
heritage
buildings
could
be
returned
to
their
original
state
as
a
factory,
so
they
would
have
the
post
and
beam
above
your
heads
exposed
would
have
the
Stonewall's
they
could
use
them
for
whatever
they
like
this
kind
of
heritage.
M
M
M
To
our
surprise,
we
were
practicing
in
Jane's
walk
on
the
weekend
and
we
see
on
the
north
on
the
West
elevation
of
65
Jeffers
and
somebody's
cut
off
a
two
foot
by
two
foot
square
of
styrofoam.
You
can
see
they
just
cut
it
off
with
a
bucks
box
cutter.
It
comes
off
very
easily,
exposing
in
this
case
exposing
the
foundation
stone
if
they
cut
the
hole
up
earlier
higher.
It
would've
exposed
brick,
and
you
can
see
that
there's
nothing
wrong.
M
The
stone
hasn't
been
damaged
by
this
stuff,
which
is
power
nailed
on
and
what
we
have
is.
What
does
this
is
a
1990s
photo
we
dated
by
the
cars
that
were
parked
beside
it.
We
have
beautiful
brick
on
the
North
elevation.
We
have
beautiful
brick
on
the
West
elevation
covered
with
paint
which
is
almost
self
removing,
as
we
speak,
and
inside
the
picture
on
the
left
shows
the
rubble
wall,
all
the
length
of
35
Liberty.
M
That's
just
the
kind
of
thing
they
make
beautiful
art
spaces
out
of
and
are
highly
sought
after
and
on.
The
rice
is
a
picture
of
the
post
and
beam
which
is
existing
throughout
the
building.
This
is
directly
under
the
roof,
absolutely
gorgeous
heritage,
in
fact,
two
buildings
north
of
it
they
are
building
a
building
with
artificial
post-and-beam
Jack.
M
This
this
is
right
next
door
in
65,
Liberty
and
here's
what
the
building
will
look
like
and
we're
asking
that
you
give
the
Heritage
Department
time
to
evaluate
it,
not
stop
the
thing
just
give
the
Heritage
Department
the
time
they
need.
I
think
they
might
be
a
couple
of
months.
I
can't
speak
for
them
great.
A
A
N
Madam
chair
members
of
community
council
you'll
have
my
letter
before
you
dated
May
1st
2018.
With
respect
to
this
project.
I
represent
a
group
of
tenants
who
are
currently
reside
in
the
building
and
live
work
units,
as
well
as
a
couple
of
bill
of
tenants
who
are
not
in
the
building
right
now,
but
have
had
their
rights
preserved
through
the
Landlord
and
Tenant.
N
As
you
heard
from
the
last
presentation,
and
also
to
allow
for
further
discussions
between
my
clients,
the
city
and
the
proponent,
around
the
proposed
tenant
relocation
plan
and
the
further
alternative.
If
community
council
and
council
is
to
approve
the
development,
then
that
the
development
be
improved,
be
brought
to
Goldstar
standard
buy-in,
proving
the
tenant
relocation
plan
in
terms
of
whether
counsel
should
refuse
the
application.
The
live
work
units
my
clients
live
in
currently
represent
the
type
of
employment
uses.
The
city
wants
to
promote
in
Liberty
Village
in
our
in
our
submission.
They
cannot
be
replicated.
N
These
units
were
recognized
by
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board
as
good
planning
in
nineteen
ninety
nine,
and
they
have
had
a
vital
role
in
revitalizing
this
area.
They
brought
not
only
employment
but
culture
to
the
area
and
made
it
an
attractive
place
to
visit
and
live
in.
Our
view
does
not
represent
good
planning
to
allow
for
the
demolition
of
these
units
and
the
relocation
or
displacement
of
my
clients.
It
also
will
represent,
according
to
the
Toronto
preservation
services
board,
a
tear
in
the
Heritage
fabric
of
the
area.
N
For
these
reasons,
we
think
the
applications
should
be
denied.
If
counsel
is
not
prepared
right
now
to
refuse
the
applications.
It
is
our
submission.
They
should
be
deferred,
firstly
to
revisit
the
Heritage
protections
to
be
afforded
2:58
Atlantic,
as
you
heard
on
the
last
presentation,
and
also
as
you'll,
see
from
the
toronto
preservation
services
board
report
and
again
to
allow
for
further
discussions
regarding
the
tenant
relocation
plan,
which
is,
in
the
view
of
my
clients,
very
deficient
and
also
was
the
understanding
of
my
clients
to
be
subject
to
further
discussions.
N
Should
council
not
defer
the
applications,
we
think
it
is
incumbent
upon
community,
council
and
council
to
improve
the
tenant
relocation
plan
by,
among
other
things,
making
sure
that
there
is
no
time
lapse
between
the
time.
My
clients
are
required
to
leave
the
subject,
building
and
move
into
the
proposed
building
on
ordinance
Street.
This
will
visit
a
great
prejudice
on
my
clients
and
does
not
represent
a
fair
approach.
Tenant
relocation.
N
They
should
be
allowed
to
stay
in
the
present
building
until
the
new
building
is
ready
for
occupancy
and,
as
you
heard,
the
new
buildings
are
about
to
be
under
construction,
and
the
current
proposed
building
will
take
some
time
to
go
through
site
plan
approval,
as
well
as
to
obtain
building
permits
and
to
get
the
approval
through
the
number
of
documents
that
are
required
to
sign
with
third
parties.
Further,
the
tenant
relocation
package
at
present
requires
my
clients,
for
example,
pay
an
increase
of
4%
for
their
new
units,
an
immediate
increase.
N
This
is
not
fair,
given
that
the
units
are
considerably
smaller
than
the
current
or
current
units,
and
they
do
not,
in
their
view,
represent
an
improvement
in
their
living
conditions.
There
should
be
no
fees
for
the
parking
storage
locker
that
there
are
proposed,
but
that
my
clients
do
not
currently
incur
this
places
them
a
situation
that
is
not
comparable
to
their
existing
rental
circumstances
and
also
the
tenant.
Relocation
plan
in
our
submission
is
not
sufficient
in
terms
of
compensation
and
you'll
see
from
Schedule
B
to
the
letter.
N
There's
a
proposed
compensation
package
which
would
be
fairer.
Finally,
in
terms
of
section
37
contribution,
if
this
proposal
is
be
approved,
my
clients
propose
that
the
section
37
benefits
include
12
individual
work
spaces
located
in
the
new
building
to
allow
my
clients
to
continue
the
work
that
has
contributed
so
much
to
the
vitality
of
this
area.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
members
of
the
public
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
refrain
from
from
clapping.
If
you
want
to
show
approval
of
the
remarks
of
the
deputies,
you
may
do
some
jazz
pots
just
like
that.
That
would
be
gold
star
vine
I'm
sure
that
would
be
go.
Sorry,
I'm
hang
on
tight.
Are
there
any
members
with
questions
for
the
speaker
seeing
none?
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
call
Terry,
Dee,
Merson,
Terry,
welcome
and
Terry
I
see
that
you
also
have
your
name
down
for
the
next
item.
A
Were
the
last
you're
the
last
person
on
this
item?
So
let
me
just
stay
in
your
chair.
What
I
like
to
do
is
ask
members
of
the
public.
Are
there
any
other
members
here
to
speak
to
the
final
report
on
25
and
35
Liberty
Street
I'll,
just
condense
the
address
there,
okay,
seeing
none,
then
we
will
move
on
to
items
te
32.4
and
stay
in
your
chair.
First
speaker
was
der
McSweeney,
but
I
believe
his
remarks
have
concluded.
A
Thank
You
Derman
he's
just
made
that
indication
followed
by
Michael
McClellan
and
then
Mark,
who
we've
just
heard
from
key
mirror
but
I
believe
mark
also
brought
both
his
marks
remarks
together,
and
we
may
note
that
he
was
going
to
speak
to
the
heritage
matter
and
then
Terry
yourself.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
ask
you
to
give
up
your
chair,
we'll
invite
Michael
machlin
to
speak
first
and
then
you
can
come
right
back
afterwards.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Thank
You
Roger
I
was
thinking.
Dermot
was
going
to
speak
in
advance
of
being
say
many
things,
so
I
hadn't
planned
a
full
presentation.
My
sense
of
this
project
we've
been
working
on
this
project.
For
about
two
and
a
half
years.
We've
worked
intensively
with
all
the
staff
of
the
city
with
the
heritage
staff
at
the
city
with
the
planning
staff,
we've
talked
about
the
retention
of
25
Liberty,
which
heritage
staff
we're
very,
very
pleased
with.
We
asked
them.
Is
there
any
other
thing
to
consider
and
they
said
no,
don't
nothing
else.
J
This
is
it
I
recognize
that
what's
come
up
recently
and
has
has
been
an
issue
I
think
throughout
the
project
is
a
tenant
relocation
and
the
the
existing
tenants
on
the
site.
I'd
have
to
say
that
that
that's
not
something
that
we
can
deal
with
from
a
heritage
perspective
and,
in
fact,
even
as
the
scheme
that
they
showed
was
showed
retention
of
those
heritage.
Buildings
wouldn't
necessarily
solve,
may
be
the
solution
to
a
tenant
relocation
issue.
J
So
we've
we've
tried
to
work
very
hard
with
the
city
staff
and
we
thank
the
city
staff
for
their.
Their
cooperation.
Help
sometimes
I'm
here
knots
not
agreeing
with
the
city
staff
I'm.
So
sorry,
but
in
this
case
we've
had
a
very
cooperative
relationship
and
they've
supported
the
project
and
so
I'm
very
pleased
with
that
and
I
really
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
K
J
Those
our
additional
heritage
features
I,
find
that
every
old
build
in
the
city
has
some
heritage
aspect.
It's
really
to
understand
from
the
city's
position.
Does
it
have
a
municipal?
Is
their
municipal
strength
in
sort
of
saying
this
must
be
preserved?
There's
a
possibility
to
interpret
history,
but
is
there
a
necessity
from
the
municipalities
position
to
actually
conserve
a
building
in
place
because
of
its
specific
history,
and
we
didn't
get
that
response
from
the
heritage
staff?
They
did
a
very
thorough
analysis
of
all
the
properties
I'm.
J
I,
don't
love
keeping
any
building
that
I
can
think
of
the
problem
with
this
is
that,
in
fact,
this
this
projects
been
through
two
and
a
half
years
of
study.
It's
in
a
process
of
financing
its
final
financing
isn't
available
until
the
City
Council
agrees
with
this
project
and
it
which
I
throw
a
serious
which
serious
jeopardy
to
this
project.
Right
now
to
talk
about
redesigning
the
project.
A
O
Thank
you
very
much.
Toronto
anis
New
York
City
Council
councilors
chair,
my
name
is
Terri
de
Merson.
I
am
a
resident.
A
live-work
resident
at
25,
Liberty
I
actually
live
in
35
Liberty.
The
building
that's
been
proposed
to
be
torn
down
I'm
here
to
speak
strictly
on
heritage
today
and
I.
Think
this
process
is
incredible.
That
I'm
allowed
to
speak
to
you
today.
O
The
last
and
only
other
time,
I
have
spoken
for
a
city
matter
was
in
front
of
the
Toronto
Heritage
Board
on
April
19th,
a
very
serious
matter
whereby
the
toronto
heritage
board
disagreed
with
heritage
services.
It
was
a
unanimous
decision
that
there
was
something
worth
investigating
on
the
property,
a
single
pen,
stroke
and
a
vote
today
by
each
one
of
you.
Members
could
see
that
heritage
removed,
but
it's
the
board's
wisdom
that
it
remained
now
I
want
to
look
at,
for
instance,
my
efforts
that
have
been
steady
and
steadfast
for
over
three
years.
A
O
You
very
much
okay,
it's
counting
up!
Thank
you
for
three
and
a
half
years
since
this
developer
bought
the
building,
because
I
live
in
the
building.
I
have
an
intimate
knowledge
of
the
building.
The
basement,
all
aspects
studios
that
my
neighbors
live
in
and
I
know
significantly
what
is
at
stake
here
for
two
and
a
half
years,
three
years,
I've
tried
to
be
in
touch
with
heritage
services.
O
I
think
mr.
Dermott
McSweeney's
stood
up
here
and
his
deputation
and
I
agree
with
everything
he
said.
This
city
needs
development.
This
city
needs
good
development,
but
I
have
a
conflict
because
when
I
hear
things
like
when
both
wonderful
mr.
Gibney
spoke
at
the
Liberty,
Village
BIA
and
then
also
ER,
a
architects
spoke
at
the
Liberty
Village
BIA
about
this
heritage
issue.
The
ER,
a
architects,
used
the
words
that
they
had
to
consider.
The
footplate
of
the
new
building,
and
here
you've
heard
that
gentleman
I'm
sorry
I've
forgotten
his
name
speak
about
financing.
O
O
Heritage
value
cannot
be
defined
by
what
the
developer
wants.
Yes,
the
developer
is
key,
but
they
had
an
obligation
when
they
bought
a
building.
They
knew
was
over
a
hundred
years
old
I
commend
them
for
coming
forward
and
saying
to
heritage
services.
There's
something
of
value
here,
but
in
my
opinion,
I
really
think
the
development
led
the
city
and
I,
don't
think
the
developer
should
lead.
This
council
today,
I
think
it's
this
council's
obligation
to
see
this
matter
for
what
it
is,
we're
asking
for
a
review.
O
What
is
time
we
talked
about
time
for
financing.
I
have
five
minutes
here
today
before
you,
you
have
an
election
cycle
in
October,
it's
all
time,
but
we
have
a
building
that
stood
for
over
a
hundred
and
twenty
years,
a
heritage
building
the
Ontario
wind
engine
and
pump
company
has
added
to
the
commerce,
development
and
fabric
of
this
city,
and
not
just
this
city.
There's
historical
records
that
it
added
to
the
very
fabric
of
the
Commonwealth
throughout
the
entire
Commonwealth
heritage
board,
has
asked
for
time
I'm
almost
out
of
time.
O
A
You
very
much
for
your
remarks.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
the
speaker
today?
I
don't
see
any.
Thank
you
very
much.
Are
there
any
other
members
here
who
would
like
to
speak
to
this
matter
in
this
report?
Okay,
seeing
none
thank
you
and
thank
you,
members
of
the
of
the
public
for
those
jazz
hands.
Then
I
would
like
to
bring
this
matter
into
community
council
and
ask
members
if
they
have
questions
of
staff.
Councillor
Matt
Lowe,
sir.
F
J
So
through
chair,
what
I
would
say
is
that,
if,
if
this,
if
this,
if
it
was
the
desire
of
Community,
Council
and
council
for
us
to
go
back
and
to
look
at
the
entire
property
again
as
we
did,
we
did
in
2000
and
2016,
we
did
go
and
we
did
research
and
evaluate
the
entire
property.
And
at
that
time
we
use
the
information
that
we
had
available
to
us
and
we
identified
what
we
felt
was
the
primary
resource
on
the
site
and
that's
what
we
move
forward
with
the
listing
our
for
in
2016.
J
J
So
the
application,
the
application
through
you,
madam
chair,
the
the
application-
has
been
appealed
and
it
does
run
through
the
OMB
process
as
opposed
to
the
new
tribunal
process.
So
if
we
defer
the
item
or
staff
is
asked
to
take
another
look
at
it,
we
still,
you
know
could
be
facing
that
I
won't
be
challenged
and
BR.
The
argument
would
be
because
we
have
two
positive
staff
reports
in
front
of
community
council
today
that
could
be
used
against
us.
So.
F
J
B
A
J
F
No,
the
the
applicant
has
not
been
asked
to
consider
deferral,
also
to
clarify
the
previous
comments
related
to
the
appeal.
The
application
is
not
under
appeal.
That
has
not
been
appealed
in
a
hypothetical
situation.
Were
it
to
be
appealed
where
the
decision
of
counsel
to
be
appealed,
I
believe
that's
what
Linda
was
speaking
to
so,
but.
L
F
A
A
J
C
J
There
is
there's
husband's
chin
that
has
been
through
chair.
There
has
been
some
additional
information,
that's
been
presented
to
us
regarding
the
condition
of
the
the
Harwich
buildings.
Obviously
we
looked
at
them
from
the
exterior
as
stucco
buildings
the
applicant
has
presented.
Some
has
presented
that
perhaps
the
stucco
a
nappy
may
not
have
damaged
the
buildings,
so
that
is
something
that
we
did
not
have
before
eyes
of
the
time.
Also,
we
would
not
have
looked
at
the
interiors
at
the
time
and
that's
been
presented
to
us
since
so
we
have
received
additional
information.
J
C
J
Would
have
to
go
back
and
fully
research
and
evaluate
the
property
again
based
on
that
information,
so
we
don't
have
enough
information.
Just
by
looking
at
one
stucco,
one
sample
of
a
part
of
the
building
that's
been
remove.
The
stock
has
been
removed.
We,
we
simply
don't
have
enough
for
information
at
this
time.
Okay,.
C
C
C
P
The
chair,
I
can't
comment
on
the
valuation
of
those
live-work
spaces,
but
certainly
the
advice
we've
received
is
that
we
can't
secure
commercial
replacement
spaces
and
prioritize
commercial
businesses
for
those
spaces
in
terms
of
the
City
of
Toronto.
Act
stipulates
that
there
has
to
be
where
businesses
are
involved.
We
can't
favor
one
business
over
another.
Okay,.
C
The
way
the
wording
is
and
and
and
I
don't
mean
to
to
sound
greedy
here,
the
way
the
wording
is
for
the
1.2
million
in
Ward
14
for
affordable
housing.
How
that's?
How
is
that
going
to
be
interpreted
with
the
word?
Boundary
changes,
not
that
I'm
suggesting
it's
just
that
word.
It
will
now
be
Ward
18.
P
C
C
C
Imagine
you
may
have
some
councillors,
maybe
not
many
fighting
over
little
bits
of
money.
Fortunately,
I
adore
that
councillor
perks
can
probably
spend
that
money
before
before
the
end
of
the
term.
Oh,
we
would
never
received
it
yet
we
wouldn't
have
received
it
yet.
On
the
rental
relocation
program,
we've
worked
together
on
a
couple
of
rental
relocation,
programs
I'm
just
finding
the
language
that's
used
in
the
report
is
difficult
to
translate.
P
So
there's
two
components
related
to
the
tenant,
relocation
and
the
rent
replacement
plan.
One
is
that
the
42
existing
residential
rental
units
will
be
replaced
at
a
nearby
location
on
ordinance
with
52
or
scuse
me
51
replacement
units,
the
other
matters
related
to
tenant,
relocation
assistance,
so
additional
compensation
and
moving
allowance
and
so
forth
is
above
and
beyond
what
we
typically
secured
for
rental
replacement
and
for
tender
assistance.
However,
certainly
tenants
have
raised
that
they
don't
feel
this
addresses
fully
the
hardship
they've
endured.
C
P
Through
the
chairs,
storage,
lockers
and
parking
are
fairly
standard
occasions
that
we
do
secure
and
we
do
secure
a
rate
according
to
what
is
reasonable.
That
should
be
paid,
particularly
for
storage.
It's
a
fairly
low
amount.
Currently,
the
tents
do
not
have
storage
lockers,
so
that
would
be
a
new
addition
where
parking
is
currently
included
in
their
rent.
That
would
be
dealt
with
separately,
that,
where
they
don't
currently
have
parking,
and
then
they
would
pay
that
that
new
parking
rate,
if
they
wanted
to
select
that
Thank.
A
You
counseling,
that
was
your
last
question.
We
could
open
up
for
a
second
round,
I
mean
I,
think
I,
just
because
we
have
a
very
packed
agenda
and
that's
the
only
reason.
If
the
agenda
was
later
I'd
say
we
can
keep
going
I
wanted
to
just
ask
Linda
McDonald.
She
had
any
additional
remarks
to
your
to
your
questions.
J
P
C
A
Okay,
then,
are
there
any
other
members
with
questions
of
stuff?
No
okay,
I
would
just
have
a
question
regarding
the
heritage
matter
and
heritage
staff.
Can
you
provide
a
broad
summary
of
the
remarks
and
concerns
that
members
of
the
Toronto
Preservation
Board
had
regarding
the
the
report,
your
report,
because
they
they
put
forth
an
opinion
that
was
different
than
your
own.
H
J
A
J
A
Because
the
recommendations
are
not
I
mean
the
recommendations
are
contained
in
a
letter
that
came
to
this
Community
Council.
Can
you
can
you
give
us
a
little
bit
more
information
on
why
they
have
a
different
of
difference
of
opinion
because
they
essentially
turned
your
recommendations
and
look
to
your
recommendations
and
said
we're
deleting
those
and
we're
adding
our
recommendations
to
refuse
the
alterations,
whereas
your
report
essentially
approved
the
alterations,
and
they
also
requested
that
City
Council
would
ask
and
direct
you
to
further
evaluate
the
Heritage
cultural
value
of
58
Atlantic?
J
Well,
although
the
the
Toronto
Preservation
Board
did
not
express
any
concerns
about
the
actual
proposal,
they
just
felt
that
given
what
was
said
by
the
deputies
at
the
meeting
that
the
buildings
that
were
in
question
warranted
a
second
look
and
and
now
that
there
was
more
information
from
the
deputies
on
those
buildings.
So
just.
A
To
summarize
their
their
their
refusal,
their
request
to
refused
was
not
necessarily
regarding
the
the
application
for
the
development,
but
rather
the
fact
that
they,
they
believe
that
58
Atlantic
deserved
an
additional
review.
That's
right!
Okay!
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
clarification.
Councillor,
perks,
question.
K
I
I
E
M
K
P
A
A
K
This
one
has
been
certainly
the
hardest
one
that
I've
dealt
with
in
my
11
years
on
council
and
it's
it's
gone
wrong
from
the
start
and
a
lot
of
that's
been
the
applicants
fault
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
process.
The
applicant
illegally
attempted
to
illegally
evict
tenants
and
just
getting
just
getting
them
to
the
table
on
that
took
months,
and
you
know
I
wish
the
law
had
some
kind
of
clause
attached
to
our
rental
retention
policy
that
allowed
us
to
find
the
hell
out
of
it.
Anybody
who
attempts
to
councillor.
A
K
Unfortunately,
it
doesn't,
unfortunately
it
doesn't.
All
we
can
do
is
to
is
to
advise
tenants
of
their
rights
when
they're
threatened
with
evictions
and
do
our
best
to
get
a
decent
award
under
the
rental
reduction
rules
that
we
do
have.
We
have
exceeded
the
the
base,
the
baseline
for
that
issue.
No,
we
haven't,
got
the
gold
standard,
I've
been
able
to
get
the
applicant
to
go
any
further
than
they'll
go.
K
This
we
and
the
confounding
factor
here,
is
that,
although
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board
years
ago
called
these
Lib
work
units,
we
don't
actually
have
anything
called
Lib
work
in
in
tenant
law
that
protects
them
to
the
same
floor
to
ceiling
heights
and
the
floor
to
ceiling
heights.
Here
are
so
generous
that
people
like
some
of
the
unit's
actually
function
as
if
they
were
two
storeys,
but
for
the
way
we
measure
for
the
purposes
of
how
we
measure
things
that
additional
you
know,
sort
of
cubby.
K
K
You
know
hats
off
to
the
community
from
day
one
they've
been
saying
no
there's
more
here
than
meets
the
eye
and
they've
done
an
awful
lot
of
work
to
get
interior
photographs
from
the
tenants,
but
I
want
I
want
to
alert
you
to
something.
If
we
should
take
the
recommendations
from
the
Preservation
Board
and
say,
let's
go
preserve,
let's
go
consider
preserving
this
other
piece
that
doesn't
guarantee
the
tenants
anything.
The
two
things
do
not
relate
to
each
other.
K
K
Additionally,
you
heard
that
the
applicants
are
well
past
their
date
and
I'll.
Tell
you
something
like
I've
seen:
staff
working
on
this
I
mean
I,
don't
like
to
put
it
in
these
terms,
but
they've
been
carrying
brassknuckles
on
this
one.
They
have
got
every
single
thing
out
of
the
applicant
that
they
could.
The
the
original
building
completely
violated
the
overall
policies
we
have
for
trying
to
maintain
the
height
and
character
of
the
western
part
of
Liberty
Village.
K
To
make
sure
that
the
carpet
factory
is
the
standard
so
and
that
the
applicant
did
not
want
to
did
not
want
to
to
go
along
with
that
they've
they
went
behind
staffs
back,
they
went
behind
my
back,
they
went
to
the
mayor's
office
and
said:
look,
this
is
employment.
Give
us
a
break
and
I
had
to
go
and
fix
that
problem.
K
We
have
an
employment
use
which
you
know
if,
as
it
been
pointed
out,
we
are,
we
are
losing
jobs
within
the
city
to
the
905,
which
is
creating
all
kinds
of
transportation
problems,
all
kinds
of
problems
in
terms
of
our
planning
goals.
We
have
protected
what
heritage
staff
have
said
over
and
over
again
and
I.
K
On
the
basis
of
we
didn't
get
the
very
best
tenant
agreement
that
we've
ever
had
in
the
history
of
the
city
of
Toronto
and
that
the
heritage
resource,
which
is
from
the
advice
from
staff,
is
which
is
still
the
best
one,
is
the
protected
one.
I'm
gonna
have
to
say
the
risks
here.
The
downside
here
of
trying
to
delay
this
process
are
just
too
great,
given
the
upsides
in
terms
of
what
we've
been
able
to
achieve.
C
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
just
speak
very
briefly
to
the
item.
I,
understand
and
appreciate
how
the
difficult
this
has
been
for
councillor
perks,
I've
met
with
residents
on
this
file
and
from
the
beginning
there
were.
There
were
those
that
were
trying
to
point
to
the
additional
heritage
resources
that
were
that
were
on
site
and
the
importance
of
of
protecting
that
resource
within
the
context
of
Liberty
Village.
C
If
you're,
if
you're
down
in
Liberty,
there's
a
very
stark
contrast
between
the
old
and
the
new
and
that's
something
and
a
balance
that
that
our
heritage
department
takes
very
seriously
and
as
does
the
the
local
planners
that
have
been
involved
on
the
files,
I
think
that
that
ultimately,
councillor,
perks
and
and
the
rest
of
us
are
stuck
in
in
a
really
a
terrible
spot.
We've
got.
C
We've
got
possibly
heritage
buildings
that
weren't
recognized
early
enough
in
the
process
that
that
may
or
may
not
have
impacted
the
the
final
outcome
of
this
deliberation.
But
after
two
years
the
the
developer
is
ready
to
move
ahead.
Whether
or
not
we,
if
we
agree
or
not
and
there's
nothing
more,
that
I'd
rather
do.
Then,
given
the
given
the
the
the
experience
that
we've
had
with
with
this
developer
on
the
site,
then
to
stop
it
all
now
and
just
have
have
added
out
at
the
at
the
Ontario
Municipal
Court.
C
There
has
been
significant
change,
I'd
no
give
a
then,
then
what
was
first
brought
in
and
I
think
it's
a
huge
part
because
of
the
local
planner
and
the
local
councillor
that
have
been
pushing
for
that.
Those
are
two
individuals,
I
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
and
if,
if
what's
coming
forward,
is
the
best
that
we
can
negotiate
and
the
the
downside,
the
the
the
risk
that
we're
opening
ourselves
up
to
is
that
significant.
C
I
just
wanted
some
clarity
and
and
how
that
will
work
going
from
one
term
to
the
next,
because
I
think
that'll
be
important
in
particular
for
councillor
cressie
councillor
Tracy,
counselor,
counselor,
wantem
who's
have
significant
greater
resources
that
will
be
transferred
around
those
words.
Thank
you.
Any.
A
Other
members,
Thank
You
councillor
any
other
members
with
comments
and
I,
would
just
like
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
the
recommendations
from
councillor
perk
on
item
number
three
before
us
recommendations
of
the
staff
report,
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed,
seeing
none
that
carries.
We
are
voting
on
te.
Thirty,
two
point:
four:
are
there
any
members
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
matter?
Callister,
perks,
I'd,.
A
Are
there
any
questions
of
the
mover,
seeing
none
anyone
else,
who'd
like
to
speak
I'll
just
speak
to
this
very,
very
quickly.
As
the
the
city
councillor
who
I
guess,
the
only
city
councillor
Loftus
sits
on
the
Toronto
Preservation
Board
I've
had
the
honor
of
serving
there
for
almost
eight
years
now
the
board
goes
through
a
lot
of
careful
consideration
of
every
single
item
before
them
and
I
think
that
members
of
the
public
who
follow
those
discussions
very
closely,
will
recognize
that
those
board
members
are
very
interested
in
speaking
only
to
the
heritage
matters.
A
Think
it's
very
important
to
note
that,
given
the
comments
of
councillor
Layton
and
councillor
perks
is
that
this
is
now
becoming
a
very.
It
becomes
a
decision
around
strategic
moves
to
make
sure
that
the
communities
are
well
protected
and
you
get
the
very
best
outcome.
It's
a
very
uncomfortable
place
to
be
in
I've,
been
in
this
place
before
I
will
be
in
this
place
with
my
own
community
on
to
applications
very
shortly
in
the
next
two
months.
A
J
A
J
Item
66
and
67
66
is
traffic
control,
signals
Broadview,
Avenue
and
I.
Have
a
referral
motion.
I
mean
it's
to
refer
it
back
to
staff
in
transportation,
for
further
consideration
and
to
report
back
to
the
July
4th
meeting
of
Toronto
nice,
your
community
council,
if
I
may
just
say
two
words
about
it,
we.
A
J
J
A
J
Traffic
control
signals
Mortimer
Avenue
in
Dewhurst,
Boulevard
north
I'm,
not
sure
why
it's
called
traffic
control
signals,
because
I'm
gonna
be
moving
to
approve
a
pedestrian
crossover
located
on
Mortimer
Avenue
at
Dewhurst,
Boulevard
North,
which
is
actually
what
the
community
had
asked
for
in
their
original
petition.
So
that's
what
I'll
be
moving
all.
A
A
A
None.
This
is
a
matter.
That's
in
Word,
18
councilor
by
law
is
not
in
the
room.
Councillor
McMahon,
who
has
taken
care
of
items
or
not
in
the
room.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
hold
it
down
in
in
their
names
and
I'll,
hold
it
for
them
and
we'll
deal
with
them
when
they
come
back
te
32.6,
366,
370,
Huron,
Street
zoning
amendment
application
final
report:
are
there
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
to
this
matter?
I,
don't
see
any
hands.
A
A
B
You
I'm
gonna,
move
the
staff
recommendations
and
I
have
a
few
words
on
this,
because
this
project
goes
back
years
and
years
and
years
I.
This
is
being
developed
these.
This
final
report
in
these
laneway
suites,
with
a
positive
staff
recommendation
here
by
the
Huron
Sussex
Sussex
residents,
organization
and
I,
recognize
one
of
our
co-chairs
here
today,
the
University
of
Toronto
evergreen
and
our
city
of
Toronto
staff,
and
why
it
goes
back
years
is
that
within
the
Huron
Sussex
neighbourhood.
B
Nearly
five
years
ago,
the
local
Neighborhood
Association,
along
with
the
University
of
Toronto,
established
in
the
city,
established
an
overarching
neighbourhood
plan
to
guide
ongoing
change.
It's
a
proactive
plan
which
called
for
the
introduction
of
laneway
Suites,
even
before
we're
having
a
conversation
later
today
about
them
and
through
extensive
consultation,
both
on
the
development
of
that
plan
and
the
recommendations
in
front
of
us
for
the
new
Suites
through
extensive
consultation,
a
plan
has
been
identified
that
has
received
near
unanimous
support
from
all
involved
in
the
neighbourhood
through
the
University
and
at
the
staff
level.
B
This
project
is
unique
in
one
way.
I
would
note,
because
around
85
90
percent
of
the
land
Julie
how
much
90
percent
around
90%
of
the
land
within
the
Huron
Sussex
neighbourhood
is
owned
by
a
single
property
owner,
the
University
of
Toronto,
and
so
not
only
have
we
collectively
with
the
Neighborhood
Association
in
the
city
and
the
university
come
up
with
a
model
for
how
to
guide
change.
We're
actually
also
in
the
process
right
now.
B
Establishing
a
housing
strategy
for
how
the
university
is
that,
as
the
90
percent
property
owner
in
the
area
will
allocate
their
units.
How
do
we
deal
with
a
housing
strategy
on
the
basis
of
age
of
tenure,
of
income
of
neighborhood
stability,
along
with
students
and
faculty
and
affordable
housing,
and
so
the
opportunity
here
is
more
than
just
the
introduction
of
intensification
and
housing,
but
rather
from
a
comprehensive
housing
strategy
and
I'll.
B
Just
close
by
saying
later
today,
we're
going
to
be
considering
laneways
in
a
much
broader
way
and
I'm
gonna
have
a
lot
to
say
at
that
point
related
to
affordability
and
sustainability
and
built
warm
and
others.
But
on
this
one,
through
an
extensive
process,
we've
reached
a
positive
outcome
and
I
want
to
thank
the
residents,
association
and
and
the
University
of
Toronto
and
our
city
of
Toronto
staff.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You
very
much
councillor
are
there
any
other
members
with
with
remarks?
Okay,
seeing
none
I
just
want
to
personally
thank
councillor
Cressy
for
all
his
work
on
this
particular
file
and
also
to
the
University
of
Toronto
on
the
applicant
in
the
local
community.
It's
very
exciting
I
have
to
say
it
wasn't
directly
involved
by
just
watching
this.
A
Particular
application
go
through
a
lot
of
keen
interest
just
because
it's
exactly
the
type
of
infill
housing
I
think
that
we
need
more
of
in
the
city
and
so
I'll
keep
my
remarks
short
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
how
grateful
I
am
to
see
such
good
planning
and
great
design.
Thank
you.
So
recommendation
of
the
staff
report
is
before
us
all.
Those
in
favor
any
opposed
carries.
Thank
you,
te
32.7
145
to
149
chaplain
crescent
zoning,
amendment
application,
there's
a
final
report:
we're
22,
I'm.
F
A
Motion
to
defer
before
us
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
Te
32.8,
150,
Eglinton,
Avenue,
East
zoning
amendment
application
final
report.
There
is
a
speaker
registered
here,
I'd
like
to
call
Bob
Murphy
Bob,
welcome
nice
to
see
you
you'll
have
five
minutes
on
the
clock
on
your
left-hand
side
over
here
on
the
wall
when
you're
ready
one.
F
Of
the
Maxim's
of
equity
is
equity,
looks
on
that,
as
done,
which
ought
to
be
done.
This
application
was
originally
for
thirty-nine
floors.
Now
it's
at
forty
six.
This
is
not
a
settlement.
It's
a
it's
a
capitulation.
If
OPA
231
was
approved
by
the
minister,
the
ministers
approval
is
consistent
with
the
minister's
prog
ative
z--.
Under
the
places
to
grow
act.
Estate
growth
cannot
be
just
residential.
The
issue
here
is
not
Madison's
property
rights,
but
rather
Madison's
obligation
under
the
very
law
that
gives
it
so
much
density.
F
Accepting
the
density
means
accepting
the
autocratic
nature
of
the
places
to
grow
act.
The
planners
report
cites
section
two
of
the
Planning
Act
well
section.
Two
also
refers
to
adequate
provision
and
distribution
of
educational,
health,
social
and
recreational
facilities.
The
statute
law
requires
that
these
be
adequate
and
in
place
Midtown
and
focus
a
mirror.
Unfunded
study
is
not
sufficient
for
approval
of
this
project
section.
One
B
of
the
places
to
grow
act
speaks
to
a
rational
and
balanced
approach
to
growth.
F
The
very
definition
of
OPA
231,
this
developer,
having
just
built
two
30-story
plus
towers
across
the
street,
has
put
more
than
their
fair
share
of
stress
on
our
infrastructure.
Now
they
get
to
build
46
more
floors
on
a
settlement
of
questionable
planning
merit.
The
developer
cannot
cite
precedent,
as
the
growth
plan
does
not
confer
property
rights
and
there
is
no
right
to
exceed
growth
targets
or
to
exceed
the
capacity
of
infrastructure.
Councillor
robinson
for
one
has
expressed
twice
in
North
Toronto
a
point
of
view
on
this.
F
That
seems
different
from
the
point
of
view
of
the
planners.
If
the
tests
of
section
2,
Planning,
all
of
it
and
section
1
B
places
to
grow,
have
not
been
met,
ministerial
consent
would
be
necessary
to
exceed
provincial
policies.
The
minister
cannot
tell
Madison
what
to
do,
but
it
can't,
but
he
can
tell
council
what
to
do
and
his
approval
of
OPA
231
is
a
clear
enough
indication
of
what
the
minister
wants.
The
OMB
or
lab
cannot
consider
this
because
it
has
no
clear
instruction
on
what
it
is.
F
It
is
supposed
to
do
if
the
board
cannot
interpret
the
growth
plan
in
terms
of
existing
infrastructure,
then
neither
can
it
interpret
the
growth
plan
in
terms
of
the
excesses
of
the
provisions
of
section,
2
planning
or
1b
places
to
grow.
The
only
good
thing
that
can
be
said
about
this
application
is
that,
unlike
110-120
117
127
Broadway,
there
aren't
four
buildings
full
of
tenants
whose
affordable
housing
will
be
lost
for
435
floor
towers,
but
150
Eglinton
East
is
a
big
dominating
institutional
building.
F
A
Q
This
is
an
applicant
who
was
asked
to
consider
Midtown
and
focus,
which
came
after
the
fact
and
in
response
to
the
comment
that
was
received
just
recently
from
the
speaker
before
me,
two
important
things
have
happened:
number
one
for
OPA
231,
while
under
appeal,
our
client
agreed
to
a
hundred
percent
office
replacement
on
the
site
that
requested
and
agreed
to
by
our
client
number
two.
One
of
the
main
issues
that
the
city
has
had
in
this
area
is
creating
a
proper
green
scape
in
front
of
and
set
backs
in
front
of
these
buildings.
Q
So
if
the
existing
building
were
to
stay,
we
wouldn't
have
that
this
applicant
was
asked
to
create
a
setback
on
Eglinton,
12
meters
of
the
Midtown
and
focus
which
came
after
the
application
and
they
agreed.
So
if
you
take
a
look
just
at
a
couple
of
slides,
I'll
show
you
this
will
show
you
our
green
line.
Looking
east
and
green
line
looking
west
down
Eglinton
and
I'd
say
that
it's
the
first
applicant
who's
agreed
to
fully
comply
with
that
request.
Q
This
is
a
site
that
I
think
is
in
terms
of
the
context,
is
in
the
young
Eglinton
area
and,
as
you're
aware,
is
designated
for
mixed-use
development
in
a
game
with
OPA
231
we've
we've
got
even
a
little
bit
more
than
100%
office
replacement
as
requested.
These
are
the
height
maps
in
the
area
that
show
it's
actually
in
keeping
with
recently
approved
heights.
And
again
this
has
not
been
appealed.
I
know
there
was
a
comment
that
it's
a
settlement.
This
was
not
appealed.
Q
Q
A
Q
F
There
are
significant
concerns
and
our
generation
is
playing
catch-up
really
with
decisions
that
have
been
made
in
the
past,
but
we're
doing
it
and
we're
working
on
it.
One
of
the
core
priorities
we
have
for
Yonge
and
Eglinton
that
connects
directly
to
the
approval
of
this
development
is
that
we
need
to
see
through
to
fruition
our
public
realm
plan.
F
The
other
thing
that
we
have
been
vigilant
about
is
pressing
for
100%
office
replacement,
I,
believe
the
city
dropped,
the
ball
on
98
means
and
West
I
think
we
really
screwed
up,
and
we
undermined
our
own
policy
of
a
hundred
percent
office
replacement
and
what
we've
been
doing
a
Yonge
and
Eglinton
and
we've
had
successes.
The
past
three
challenges
we've
had
to
this
goal
is
to
over
and
over
and
over
again
achieve
100%
office
replacement,
because
we
want
a
complete
community.
We
often
talk
about
Complete
Streets.
We
also
want
a
complete
community.
F
We
want
a
young
and
Eglinton
that
isn't
just
a
vertical
bedroom,
suburban
community.
We
want
a
balance
of
work
residential
and
play
so
that
people
can
walk
to
work
and
not
try
to
jam
themselves
in
on
an
overcrowded
subway
or
get
into
their
car
and
contribute
to
the
congestion
we
already
have.
We
want
to
improve
people's
health
and
quality
of
life.
We
want
a
complete
community,
full
officer
replacement
is
important
to
that,
because
it
also
creates
jobs
which
also
contributes
to
our
quality
of
life,
so
ultimately
I
guess
to
conclude.
F
Ironically,
this
is
one
of
the
very
few
development
proposals
that
I've
ever
had
an
initial
meeting
about
early
on,
where
I
literally
walked
out
of
the
room,
because
the
applicant
wasn't
willing
to
do
anything
that
I
just
listed
as
far
as
our
achievements,
but
I
want
to
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
our
planner
and
our
team
together,
where
we
achieved
I
think
something
pretty
remarkable
from
where
we
began
and
that's
why
I'm
willing
to
walk
back
in
the
room
and
have
a
seat
and
try
to
achieve
resolution.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
councillor
mallow
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
speak.
Seeing
none.
The
recommendations
of
the
staff
report
are
before
us
all,
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
Our
next
item-
teehee
32.9,
1:55,
Wellesley,
Street,
East,
official
planning,
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
rental
housing,
demolition,
application.
This
is
a
final
report.
There
are
two
registered
speakers,
possibly
more
I'd
like
to
call
Larry
Titus
to
speak.
Larry
are
you
here?
A
H
Good
morning,
everyone
and
thanks
for
this
opportunity
to
voice
my
concerns
about
the
redevelopment
of
155
Wellesley
Street
East
I,
originally
intended
the
public
consultation
meeting
on
this
project
back
in
February
to
see
if
the
design
of
the
new
building
would
reflect
the
nearby
century
homes
on
Homewood
Avenue.
It
was
very
apparent
from
the
presenters
at
the
meeting
that
absolutely
no
thought
had
been
given
to
the
matter.
Indeed,
the
architects
representative
stated
that
the
client
asks
us
for
a
glass
box,
so
we
gave
them
a
glass
box.
H
After
the
meeting
I
wrote
of
my
concerns
to
both
the
city,
planner
Jason,
Brander
and
my
counselor
comes
to
town.
Both
have
been
very
kind
and
subsequent
months.
In
replying
to
my
questions
and
comments,
everyone
has
explained
why
this
particular
redevelopment
project
does
not
meet
the
criteria
for
the
design
to
reflect
the
local,
architectural
heritage
and
I
do
understand
the
conflict
between
public
will
and
available
legislative
tools.
My
own
background
is
in
archaeology,
and
this
is
for
us
an
ongoing
battle
in
cultural
resource
management.
H
H
H
Mr.
Brender
does
acknowledge
that
the
proposed
use
of
the
site
serves
a
larger
population
than
that
which
was
intended
in
the
apartment
neighborhoods
policies,
but
that
the
proposed
use
will
provide
a
tangible
benefit
and
improvement
to
the
community.
I
sincerely
hope
that
his
optimism
proves
correct.
I,
do
trust
that
city
staffs
assessments,
as
far
as
they
go,
but
I
also
trust
that
this
council
will
consider
all
views
in
this
matter
and
in
the
words
of
the
official
plan,
whether
this
proposal
actually
does
fit
in
respect
and
improve
the
existing
context
of
the
neighborhood.
A
E
Five
minutes
we
ready
hello
good
morning,
madam
chair
and
members
of
community
council.
My
name
is
Caitlin
Allen
I'm
from
Bousfield
Zink,
and
we
are
the
planning
consultants
for
the
applicant
with
regards
to
this
property.
On
behalf
of
the
applicant,
we
filed
this
application
in
September
in
order
to
permit
this
infill
development
on
the
property
which,
as
you've
heard,
is
to
develop
a
new
two-story
medical
facility
and
a
one-story
pharmacy
at
the
base
of
the
existing
apartment
building.
E
So
the
lower
two
levels
will
be
renovated
and
expanded
to
facilitate
this
development
and
also,
as
you've
heard,
the
medical
facility
will
be
operated
by
st.
Michael's
Hospital
and
will
replace
the
existing
Center
at
410.
Sherbourne
Street
I
wanted
to
be
brief
and
indicate
that
we
are
in
support
of
staffs
recommendations
for
the
approval
of
the
proposed
development.
Over
the
past
nine
months,
we've
worked
very
closely
with
staff
on
the
applications
and
received
comments
which
have
been
incorporated
into
the
refined
proposal,
which
forms
the
base
of
the
final
report.
E
In
our
opinion,
this
represents
good
planning,
as
among
other
reasons
it
will
ensure
the
local
community
will
continue
to
have
access
to
this
important,
the
important
service
of
st.
Mike's.
It
will
introduce
a
compatible
use
on
the
site
that
will
support
the
achievements
of
the
complete
community.
It
will
enhance
the
safety,
amenity
and
animation
of
the
site
and
the
adjacent
public
realm,
and
it
won't
impact
negatively
impact
the
tenants
in
the
existing
building
the
existing
rent
in
the
existing
rental
units.
E
So
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
with
city
staff
to
refine
the
bylaws
to
ensure
they're
consistent
with
the
plans
that
staff
have
reviewed
and
are
in
supportive
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
voice
my
appreciation
for
all
the
work
that
staff
have
done
and
put
into
this
application
so
and
I
request
that
you
adopt
their
recommendations.
Subject
to
the
motion,
which
I
also
think
will
be
before
you
so
I'm
here
with
the
applicant
to
answer
any
questions
and
I'm
also
happy
to
respond
more
directly
to
the
earlier
comments
of
mr.
Titus
as
required.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Are
there
any
questions
of
the
deputy
okay,
seeing
none
I
just
have
a
quick
question
since
you've
opened
it
up.
The
the
previous
speaker
before
you
raised
a
couple
of
concerns.
One
is
around
the
the
contextual
I
guess,
appropriateness
of
the
the
urban
design
that
is
put
forward
in
the
application
versus
and
how
it
relates
to
the
the
heritage
home
some
of
the
heritage
homes,
especially
on
Homewood
Avenue.
How
would
you
respond
to
his
concern?
Well,.
E
I'd
certainly
like
to
also
defer
to
staff
on
this
as
well,
because
we
have
been
working
with
them
on
the
urban
design
component,
but
from
a
heritage
perspective.
The
site,
as
mr.
Titus
has
said,
is
not
adjacent
to
any
heritage
designated
properties
of
concern,
and
we
were
informed
at
the
at
the
very
first
meeting
that
this
wasn't
something
that
would
necessarily
need
to
inform
our
proposal.
E
I
think
that
the
design
has
responded
contextually
to
the
adjacent
conditions,
particularly
along
the
Wellesley
Street
eQuest
corridor,
and
has
been
really
carefully
designed
to
fit
within
the
space
that
is
around
the
existing
18
story.
Apartment
building
in
you
know,
in
a
way
that
is
in
an
appropriate
built
form.
Okay,.
A
And
then
my
follow-up
question-
and
this
is
this-
will
be
my
last
question
with
respect
to
the
the
permitted
use
or
the
the
requested
use.
The
current
the
applicant,
the
new
tenant
they'll
be
coming
into
this
new
addition
is
currently
a
neighbor
of
in
the
in
the
community.
Do
you
believe
that
they
are
an
appropriate
type
of
use
and
given
the
fact
that
they're
in
the
neighborhood,
but
also
given
the
concerns
that
the
applicant
before
you
sorry
the
pray
that
the
deputy
before
you
spoke
about?
Yes,.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comments.
Are
there
any
other
members
with
questions
of
the
speaker?
Okay,
seeing
none
are
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
to
this
matter?
None
any
members
of
Community
Council
with
questions
of
staff,
don't
see
any
then
I
will
just
ask
one
question,
which
is
basically
the
same
question
I
asked
of
the
speaker
to
clarify
the
comment
of
the
prior
speaker,
your
position
as
staff
with
respect
to
concerns
around
this
particular
application
and
the
physical
alterations
to
the
building.
Does
it
have
Heritage
impact?
A
C
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
with
respect
to
the
follow
up
question
the
the
intended
tenant
and
it's
going
to
be
going
into
the
new
addition
is
currently
a
neighbor
and
a
service
adviser
already
in
the
neighborhood.
Yes,
do
you
have
any
concerns
based
on
what
the
the
the
first
speaker
spoke
about
with
respect
to
the
intended
use?
If
number
one
is
it
permitted?
Number
two
is:
is
it
an
appropriate
use.
C
A
You
very
much
thank
you,
any
members
to
speak,
seeing
none
and
I
would
just
quickly
want
to
thank
all
the
readin's
for
coming
out.
I,
also
like
to
move
the
recommendations
in
the
staff
report
to
prove
the
the
application
before
us.
The
the
concerns
that
were
raised
by
the
first
speaker,
I
think
are
are
quite
honestly
legitimate.
There
aren't
a
lot
of
speakers
that
came
out
from
the
community,
despite
the
fact
that
this
particular
application
is
an
addition
to
a
building
that
is
already
there.
A
Think
in
my
office,
no
complaints
ever
about
the
operation
of
that
facility,
as
it
sits
right
now
on
Sherbourne
having
them
relocate
to
a
modern
facility
with
a
much
more
accessible
retail
operation,
is
I.
Think
the
appropriate
move
and
I
think
it's
actually
very
welcome
for
all
the
service
users
of
this
facility
in
this
service
that
they
are
going
to
be
quite
relieved.
Knowing
that
their
service
provider
is
gonna
stay
in
the
neighborhood,
so
that
is
a
very
positive
thing.
A
I
will
look
forward
to
working
with
the
staff
on
the
site
plan
to
make
sure
that
it
responds
to
some
of
the
concerns
that
I
believe
are
legitimately
raised
by
the
the
first
speaker
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that,
but
I
think
we
are
more
than
ready
to
just
go
ahead
and
and
and
approve
this
particular
application
before
us.
If
there
are
no
other
comments,
then
we
have
the
recommendations
of
the
staff
report
before
us.
Oh
sorry,
I
have
to
move
a
technical
or
amendments
or
and
I
don't
have
quorum.
A
Can
I
ask
council
perks
and
councillor
Krusty
to
take
their
seat?
We
can
take
a
vote
and
I
apologize
yeah.
So
before
we
move
the
the
recommendation
of
staff
report,
I
have
to
move
this
technical
amendment
provided
by
the
planning
staff.
There's
just
a
quick
two
or
three
quick
adjustments
on
here,
and
it
is
technical
in
nature.
Some
quick
changes
to
the
the
measurements
and,
in
addition
to
addition,
did
it
soar
an
additional
recommendation.
E
A
Is
significant,
okay
and
there's
there's
something
else
in
there,
but
if
there
are
no
questions
of
the
of
the
mover,
I
would
like
to
move
the
motion
to
amend
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
item
as
amended
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
we
have
one
more
item
here
before
we
head
to
the
big
one:
that's
going
to
take
up
a
lot
of
energy
and
I
think
that's
gonna,
we're
in
for
a
very
exciting
discussion,
te
32
point:
10
1001,
Queen,
Street,
East
zoning
amendment
application
of
final
report.
O
Working
from
the
from
the
street
up
with
staff-
and
we
do
appreciate
the
efforts
of
planning
and
urban
design
stuff,
we've
made
every
effort
to
to
make
this
particular
proposal
fit
into
the
to
the
community
context.
So
it's
a
six
story,
building
four
stories
with
a
step
back
to
the
upper
two
floors:
it's
a
17,
a
1616
unit,
building,
15,
two
bedroom
units
and
one
three-bedroom
unit.
I.
Think
community
council
would
be
interested
to
know
that
the
unit
sizes
of
themselves
range
between
a
thousand
to
1600
square
feet.
O
The
intention
here
is
to
bring
family
suitable
apartment
accommodation
into
the
Leslie
valaria,
and
my
clients
was
very
much
a
promoter
of
that.
He
lives
in
the
area,
believes
in
the
area
and,
of
course,
in
the
base
of
the
building.
It
will
be
a
mixed-use
building
with
retail
at
grade
about
just
under
about
2,800
square
feet
of
space.
So
we
think
that
we've
done
a
great
job
in
matching
the
requirements
from
the
guidelines.
We
would
ask
for
council
support
again
I'd
like
to
thank
staff
for
their
efforts.
O
A
You
very
much
for
your
deputation.
Are
there
any
members
here
with
questions
of
the
speaker?
Okay,
seeing
none!
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
to
the
matter?
Okay,
seeing
none,
because
the
matter
is
in
counselor,
30,
oh
sorry
or
30.
Councillor
Fletcher
is
not
in
the
room
by
way
of
courtesy,
I'd
like
to
hold
the
the
the
decision-making
and
there
were
questions
of
staff
portion
down,
and
should
she
be
coming
back
soon.
A
We
will
bring
this
matter
back
for
discussion
and
for
decision,
so
we're
gonna
hold
that
and
now
I
guess
where
we
are
at
te.
32
point
11
changing
lanes
the
city
of
Toronto's,
review
of
laneway
Suites
city
in
ish,
official
plan,
amendment
and
zoning
amendment
final
report.
There
are
many
many
speakers
on
this
item.
A
A
C
A
So
I
think
that's
a
very
good
suggestion.
Councillor
Layton
and
I'm
happy
to
take
some
11
o'clock
items
only
because
we
know
that
there
will
be
a
holding
down
of
the
changing
lanes
item
anyways,
because
councillor
viola
would
like
to
be
here
when
decisions
are
finally
made
and
I
know
she
would
like
to
speak
to
it,
and
so
what
I
would
do
at
this
moment
is
before
we
hear
from
the
deputies
for
changing
lanes.
A
A
To
do,
and
generally
it's
not
this
confusing,
but
today
it
is
because
there's
so
many
different
requests
to
do
things
when
someone
is
in
the
room
or
someone's
not
in
a
room.
I'll
stay
with
you
for
the
rest
of
the
meeting.
However,
we
need
to
have
certain
bodies
in
the
room
to
take
care
of
certain
items.
I'd
like
to
hold
down
item
number
11,
which
is
changing
lanes.
We're
gonna
proceed
to
te
32
point:
12,
Queen,
Street
West
between
Dufferin
Street
and
ronsis
Vale
Avenue
restaurant
study
request
for
directions
report.
A
R
Okay,
I'm
quicker
than
I
thought:
oh
I'm,
just
waiting
for
number
12,
11,
so
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
restaurant
study
that
was
done
on
Queen
Street
West.
Basically,
what
it
did
was
to
try
to
deal
with
the
changing
makeup
of
the
streetscape
from
a
daytime
culture
to
a
nighttime
culture
I
up
until
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
I
lived
directly
across
from
where
most
of
the
activity
happened,
which
was
from
Brock
to
to
Dufferin.
R
So
I
would
like
to
see
the
25%
item
maintained
within
this
bylaw
and
I'm,
going
to
speak
to
as
to
why
my
rationale
is
that
it
stays
there
I
think
the
report
that
was
created
by
the
company
360
Collective
attempted
to
try
to
do
a
report.
I
think
part
of
the
issue
in
that
report
Illustrated
that
just
given
the
changes
in
the
community
retail,
they
weren't
able
to
actually
analyze
what
the
repercussions
of
that
25
percent
saturation
bylaw
was
so
I.
Don't
think
that
that
report
actually
Illustrated
the
the
issue
around
that
saturation
bylaw.
R
So
that's
my
one
of
my
reasons
for
it
not
for
being
retained
in
the
bylaw.
The
other
issue
is
has
to
do
with
the
alcohol
Gaming
Commission,
the
City
of
Toronto
doesn't
have
the
responsibility
of
issuing
licenses,
that's
with
the
provincial
body
and
up
until
a
couple
of
years
ago
there
is
a
new
regulation
in
place,
which
is
an
as
of
right
for
businesses.
So
any
business,
not
just
one
that
serves
food,
can
get
a
liquor
license.
R
This
whole
process
of
dealing
with
saturation
and
concentration
of
activities
on
the
street
has
been
something
that's
been
going
on
for
a
long
time
when
the
candy
first
got
involved
in
dealing
with
the
issue
around
licensed
establishments
and
the
overflow
that
that
was
created
and
how
it
was
affecting
the
neighborhood.
We
tried
to
figure
that
out.
How
are
we
gonna
deal
with
this,
and
so
the
city
has
done
numerous
reports
on
Ossington
on
Dundas,
on
Queen
Street
on
college
and
what
we
realized.
R
What
was
coming
forward
from
the
city
was
a
sort
of
a
cookie
cutter
approach
to
how
to
deal
with
this.
So
the
study
that
was
being
done
on
Queen
Street
in
Parkdale
looked
exactly
like
the
rest
of
them,
except
they
changed
the
name
and
the
street
location.
So
we
were
kind
of
disappointed
with
that.
So
we
went
out
and
said:
okay
were
these
other
areas
where
they
benefited
from
this
change
and
what
we
realized
talking
to
other
community
groups
and
resident
groups
in
the
neighborhood
was
no
it
will.
It
didn't
affect
any
change.
R
It
just
basically
stalled
things
for
a
year
and
a
half
while
the
study
was
done.
So
we
went.
Oh
that's,
not
a
good
thing,
so
the
community
started
doing
some
research.
So
one
of
the
things
we
did
was
we
looked
at
elsewhere.
Who
else
has
saturation
bylaws?
Well,
we
found
out.
La.
Has
the
saturation
bylaw
Berlin
has
a
saturation
bylaw
London
England.
The
list
goes
on
a
places
that
have
figured
out
how
to
deal
with
this
issue
of
neighborhoods
and
alcohol.
R
So
we
approached
the
city
and
they
said
well
that's
a
different
jurisdiction
that
doesn't
apply
in
Toronto
Ontario,
so
we
did
some
more
work
and
we
found
out
that
byward
market
in
Ottawa,
as
a
bylaw
Stratford,
has
a
bylaw.
Niagara
Falls
has
a
bylaw,
so
we
approached
the
city
and
said
no.
What
you've
got
now
doesn't
work.
We
want
something
better
and
out
of
that
came
this
solution,
so
I
think
that
that
solution
should
stay
in
play.
R
I
appreciate
that
we
would
like
to
approach
it
review
it
again
in
five
years,
but
I
think
we
could
do
that
and
continue
the
bylaw
in
its
place
as
it
still
stands
and
I
don't
understand
that
that
would
go
for
the
towards
the
OMB,
because
it's
already
been
objected
to
so
I
would
like
to
see
it
stay.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
remarks.
Are
there
any
members
with
questions
for
the
speaker?
Okay,
seeing
none.
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
to
this
matter,
seeing
none
members
of
the
Community
Council
with
questions
of
staff,
seeing
none
members
to
speak
councillor
perks,
so.
K
Many
of
you
on
the
Community
Council
will
remember
this.
This
was
a
very,
very
interesting
piece
of
work
that
we
did
in
Parkdale
eight
or
ten
years
ago
we
were
seeing
liquor
license
applications
every
month
and
we
had
one
stretch
of
Parkdale
from
basically
Dufferin
to
Brok,
which
was
unbelievable,
Thursday
Friday,
Saturday
nights.
You
couldn't
walk
on
the
sidewalks
because
there
were
so
many
people
who
were
going
to
one
established
a
pre-established
meant
to
pre
drink.
K
Then
they
were
going
to
another
establishment
to
listen
to
live
music
and
drink,
and
then
they
were
going
to
another
establishment
after
that
to
drink,
and
you
know
I
have
nothing
against
someone
having
a
beer
or
a
glass
of
wine
or
even
two
on
occasion,
but
this
was.
This
was
a
whole
different
thing.
People
were
coming
in
from
all
over
the
Greater
Toronto
Area
to
basically
go
to
what
was
turning
into
the
new
nightclub
district
and
that
had
several
consequences.
K
I
had
people
who
lived
above
some
of
these
places,
who
literally
would
would
go
stay
with
family
and
friends
every
weekend,
so
their
kids
could
get
enough
sleep
to
be
able
to
go
to
school
on
Monday
morning
or
to
do
their
homework.
I
had
people
who
were
having
windows,
smashed
I
had
people
who
were
getting
urine
and
feces
on
their
front
lawns.
K
K
The
correct
way
to
deal
with
it
would
be
to
have
some
kind
of
control
over
the
concentration
of
liquor
licenses
and
we
tried
hard
to
find
a
way
to
do
that.
You
might
remember
councillor
Layton
and
I
very
famously
at
one
point
said:
the
city
managed
to
get
your
council
a
provision
that
the
city
will
not
not
approve
any
liquor
license
unless
the
local
member
of
provincial
parliament
signed
off,
which
they
all
refused
to
do
so
we
had
this
period
of
several
months,
where
no
one
could
open
a
restaurant.
It.
K
Was
bonkers
and
it
forced
the
creation
of
a
task
force
between
the
city
and
the
the
province
to
try
to
deal
with
this
issue
of
over
concentration
of
drinking
establishments?
And
we
boy
did
we
work
hard
councillor
Nunziata
councillor
palácio
councillor,
Layton
and
I
went
up
to
Queen's
Park
and
told
them
about
the
problems
we
are
having
in
some
neighborhoods
in
Toronto.
K
They
said
we
hear
you
councillors,
we
sure
do
hear
yeah
we'll
do
something,
and
after
two
and
a
half
years
of
having
meetings
with
staff
from
the
alcohol
and
Gaming
Commission
I'm
happy
to
report,
they
did
absolutely
nothing.
In
fact,
they've
made
it
worse.
They've
made
it
worse.
I
now
have
as
Rick
mentioned,
but
in
this
stretch
of
Queen
Street,
a
barbershop
that
serves
drinks
and
stays
open
until
2:00
a.m.
because
you
know
who
doesn't
want
to
get
drunk
and
go
get
their
hair
cut
at
one
o'clock
in
the
morning.
K
K
So
we
recommend
that,
because
it
does
create
a
real
administrative
burden
on
legitimate
restaurants,
which
it
does
that
we
take
our
foot
off
the
brakes
and
come
back
in
five
years
and
see
if
we,
if
that
balance,
that
we've
retrieved
is
a
permanent
balance
and
I
think
that's
a
legitimate
way
to
go,
because
where
we're
really
gonna
solve
this
problem
and
I'm
glad
Rick
brought
up
the
Byward
market,
I
actually
had
the
local
councillor
from
the
Byward
market.
Phoned
me
yesterday,
saying
how's
that
going
our
problems
are
getting
worse.
K
So
I
see
the
time
so
I'm
gonna
encourage
you
all
to
support
this
recommendation
with
an
undertaking
that
staff
are
going
to
be
keeping
their
eye
on
it,
and
we
will
get
a
report
on
this
in
the
future,
but
with
a
renewed
commitment
as
a
council
to
bringing
the
rules
around
late
night
drinking
to
heal.
We
have
an
opportunity
in
that
I
understand
the
province
is
going
to
be
reviewing
the
AGCO
rules
as
part
of
their
review
of
the
cannabis
rules.
K
J
As
I
recall,
councillor
perks,
one
of
the
other
objectives,
was
to
try
and
maintain
not
just
restaurants
instead
of
bars,
but
also
to
look
at
encouraging
I
guess
by
default.
Other
uses,
like
hardware
stores
or
bakeries
or
other
kinds
of
business
establishments
and
I,
don't
see
any
reference
to
what
the
findings
were
at
for
other
uses
and
I
know.
I
probably
should
have
asked
that
that's.
K
Okay,
so
we
we
did
hire
one
of
the
premier
firms
in
North
America
that
looks
at
how
commercial
areas
succeed
and
don't
succeed,
and
they
did
a
study
of
this
area,
adjacent
Main
streets
and
comparator
main
streets
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
and
we
found
that
in
this
area,
employment,
not
just
in
rest
in
restaurants,
went
up
and
in
other
categories,
went
up
as
well
and
I
can
tell
you
anecdotally,
you
don't
have
their
full
report
here.
There's
a
summary
of
it
here
and
I
can
make
sure
staff
forward
to
full
report.
K
I
can
also
just
tell
you
anecdotally,
like
this-
is
a
stretch
of
Queen
Street
I,
walk
perche
every
day
that
that
reinvigoration
of
the
daytime,
businesses
in
a
variety
of
business
categories
has
improved.
So
it's
service
to
the
local
neighborhood
has
improved
as
well,
but
the
one
thing
they
did
find
that
I
think
is
worth
noting.
J
A
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
questions
of
the
councillor
who's
moved
the
staff
recommendations,
okay,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
the
staff
recommendations,
any
opposed
that
carries
thank
you
and
Thank
You
councillor
and
the
staff
for
their
work.
Councillor
McMahon
on
a
point
of
personal
privilege,
sure.
D
J
D
A
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
McMahon
I
just
want
to
see
if
we
can
clear
some
of
the
earlier
items.
Councillor
Fletcher,
you
have
an
item
from
time,
ten
o'clock,
tea.
Thirty
two
point:
ten
one
thousand
and
one
Queen
Street
East
zoning
amendment
application
the
final
report.
How
would
you
like
to
proceed?
You.
G
A
E
G
Just
going
to
no
I'm
not
turned
I'm,
just
speaking
I'm
doing
exactly
what
I
said,
I'm
going
to
approve
that
and
I'm
speaking
and
I'm
gonna
give
this
to
staff
once
I
say
what
it
is.
Oh
I
see:
okay,
no,
it's
not
but
I'm
just
I'll
start
again,
then
yeah
so
you're
moving
the
staff
by
moving
the
staff
recommendations
as
is
and
I'm,
and
with
no
amendments.
No
amendment.
A
G
Five
minutes
we
please
proceed
and
having
a
communication
between
the
next-door
neighbor,
which
was
the
first
heritage
designation
on
all
of
Queen
Street,
and
the
developer
and
I'm
sent
it's
one
regarding
light
and
everything
else
and
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
today
to
planning
staff,
so
it
can
be
considered
in
the
site
plan
and
with
that
I'm
moving
the
approval.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
A
A
N
I
represent
the
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
designers,
walk
Inc
and
citizen
gray
book
BG,
limited
partnership.
Our
client
and
their
consultants
have
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
staffs
report,
and-
and
we
do
note
that
within
that
staff
report
is
evidence
that
our
clients
have
engaged
in
several
meetings
and
discussions
with
the
local
community
groups,
including
the
Davenport
area,
Triangle
residents
Association
and
the
annex
residents
Association,
as
well
as
several
meetings
with
city
to
planning
staff
and
urban
design
staff.
N
Our
clients
remain
willing
to
continue
to
work
with
city
staff
and
the
interested
stakeholders
to
resolve
and/or
narrow
some
of
the
issues
that
that
are
existing
in
the
staff
report,
in
the
hopes
that
we
can
avoid
a
lengthy
and
costly
Local
Planning
Appeal
tribunal
hearing.
Unfortunately,
the
recommendations
included
in
the
staff
report
do
not
include
any
direction
to
the
city's
solicitor
or
appropriate
staff
to
continue
those
discussions
or
potentially
engage
in
formal
mediation,
whether
that's
before
the
L
pad
or
by
a
third
party.
A
B
Thank
you
and
I
will
move
the
staff
recommendations,
which
is
to
direct
the
city,
solicitor
and
appropriate
staff
to
attend
the
tribunal
to
oppose
the
application
in
its
current
form.
This
is
a
standard
request
for
directions,
report
and
nothing
at
all
precludes
staff
or
the
local
community
or
the
applicant
for
that
matter,
from
making
changes
as
we
go
through
the
planning
tribunal
process
and
I
would
encourage
that
to
take
place.
A
A
Te
32.1
for
647
663
to
665
King,
Street,
West,
69,
73,
Bathurst,
Street
and
58
60
Stewart
Street
zoning
amendment,
application
request
for
directions,
report
and
rental
housing
demolition
application
report.
Are
there
many
are
so.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
to
this
matter?
Seeing
none.
Are
there
members
of
the
committee
with
questions
of
staff,
seeing
none
members
to
speak
councillor
Crecy
thank.
B
A
I
I'll
make
this
quick.
The
reason
I
here
is
I'm
a
resident
of
Henry
Street
and
on
the
board
of
the
newly
formed
Baldwin
village,
Community
Association,
and
because
of
the
size
of
this
project
and
the
height
its
effect
on
our
neighborhood
and
the
surrounding
established
neighborhoods
I'm,
asking
that
we
be
kept
in
the
loop
specifically
under
sections
37,
and
they
used
in
the
need
at
the
time
to
relocate
the
daycare
in
that
building
and
during
the
construction
of
that
particular
process.
I
I'd
also
like
to
emphasize
that
we
are
very
concerned
over
the
shadowing
effect
of
such
a
tall
building
on
our
neighborhood,
and
the
one
addendum
I
like
to
make
to
the
City
report
is
under
parking.
The
parking
is
residential
parking
can
be
accommodated
at
offsite
parking
locations.
I,
don't
know
who
wrote
this.
Maybe
they're
not
aware
with
the
president
issue
of
the
lack
of
parking
in
the
hospital
areas
at
the
time.
But
what
I
like
to
have
added
to
the
city
staff
report
is
that
condo
owners
not
be
allowed
permit
parking.
I
I
have
no
problem
with
fewer
parking
spots
on
the
building.
I
don't
care
if
they
have
any
parking
spots
in
the
building,
but
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
such
a
large
project
doesn't
take
up
all
the
permit
parking
in
a
neighborhood
and
I'm
going
to
quote
quote
former
councillor
Adams
on.
If
they
do
not
have
parking,
they
do
not
have
cars,
they
do
not
shop
at
Costco.
So
I
would
like
to
move
that
in
the
report
that
permit
parking
not
be
allowed
for
such
a
large
sized
building.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
B
You
and
I'll
be
moving
the
staff
recommendations,
which
is
to
oppose
the
application
to
attendee
OMB
or
the
planning
tribunal
and
to
direct
the
city
solicitor
to
do
so.
Just
a
couple
of
comments
and
just
to
clarify
in
response
to
the
Deputy
two
things
which
I
think
are
critical.
First,
is
it's
important
that,
as
part
of
the
this
tribunal
process,
that
the
baldwin
village
becomes
a
party
to
that
a
formal
party,
so
that
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
city
shares
with
baldwin
village
can
be
heard
so
I
would
encourage
that?
B
The
second
is,
as
it
relates
to
the
concern
related
to
restriction
on
any
potential
project
for
the
per
the
residents
from
having
permit
parking,
which
is
a
standard
restriction
that
we
place
on
all
developments
through
our
office.
That's
something
that
isn't
that
isn't
included
at
this
point
in
a
request
for
directions
report.
B
A
I
I
This
project
is
close
to
my
heart:
I've
lived
in
a
neighborhood
for
40
years,
I
owned
a
building
on
Baldwin
Street,
and
what
I
want
to
make
sure
is
that
the
balda
Street
villages,
social
Community
Association,
is
not
left
out
of
the
process.
We
have
been
left
out
of
the
process
in
the
past.
We
want
to
ensure
that
all
community
members
are
kept
aware
and
review
all
final
approvals
and
concessions
concerning
section,
37
and
approvals
of
the
plan
required
site
plans.
I
I
Given
a
narrow
street
of
this
location,
the
multiple
uses
of
McCall
Street
to
severe
serving
local
residents,
hospital's
parking,
TTC,
streetcars,
Ord,
Street,
Children's,
Hospital,
Hospice,
U
of
T
exam
centers,
etc.
The
loading
and
unloading
doomed.
A
lengthy
construction
period
needs
to
be
dressed
now,
as
the
space
needed
should
and
can
only
be
provided
within
the
site.
Property
I've
been
told
that
the
process
cannot
occur
until
after
an
application.
I
Let's
move
forward,
however,
the
approved
site
plan
for
this
development
must
take
into
account
the
need
for
on-site
loading
and
unloading
and
that
at
the
LPA
t,
I
will
represent
our
neighborhood
to
ensure
that
the
site
plan
is
approved
with
the
construction
needs
in
place.
The
overall
design
in
the
site
plan
should
and
must
reflect
this
need.
Thank
you
very
much
and.
A
B
This
is
a
request
for
directions
related
to
legal
representation,
but
as
it
relates
to
any
potential
rezoning
construction
and
site
plan
that
would
take
place
at
the
next
stage
and
I
would
encourage
Baldwin
village
along
with
the
city
to
be
part
of
it,
and
that's
why
I'm
directing
staff
that
do
that's?
Why
I'm
moving
staff
recommendations
to
oppose?
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
very
much
councillor,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
recommendations
of
staff,
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
You're
zipping,
along.
We
can
probably
do
maybe
two
more
te
32.1
7
150
158
Pearl
Street
and
15
Duncan
Street
zoning
amendment
application
request
for
directions
report.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
to
this
by
them?
Seeing
none?
Are
there
any
members
with
questions
of
staff,
seeing
none
members
to
speak
councillor,
Cressey
I'll.
A
Those
in
any
questions
of
the
mover
no
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
Te
30,
2.18,
504,
Wellington,
Street
West,
owning
amendment
application
request
for
directions
report
any
members
of
the
public
here
to
speak
to
this
item.
Seeing
none
members
are
there
any
members
with
questions
of
staff,
seeing
none
members
to
speak
councillor
Krusty
thank.
B
A
Those
in
favor
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.
We
have
t30
2.19,
64-66,
Wellesley,
Street,
East,
five,
five,
two:
five:
seven:
zero
Church,
Street
and
City
own
public
Lane
official
plan,
amendment,
zoning
amendment
and
rental
housing,
demolition
applications
request
for
a
directions
report.
We
have
a
member
of
the
public
here
to
speak
to
the
item.
Ross
white.
J
So
I
would
encourage
this
committee
to
not
go
forward
with
this
development
until
the
developer
meets
the
code,
amendment
processes,
the
official
plan
and
that
their
proposal
to
change
the
zoning
to
change
the
Official
Plan
be
rejected
and
that
they
do
in
fact
meet
with
the
current
regulations
as
written.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
Ross
for
your
remarks.
Thank
you.
Are
there
members
with
questions
seeing
none
members
of
the
questions
of
staff,
seeing
none
members
to
speak
I
would
like
to
move
the
recommendations
in
a
staff
report
and
to
refuse
the
application
for
a
number
of
reasons,
including
them.
The
reason
mentioned
by
the
speaker,
this
application
is
entirely
inappropriate
for
this
site.
I
believe
that
the
advice
from
planning
staff
at
the
very
beginning,
even
through
the
pre
application
stage,
was
this
is
not
a
tall
building
site.
This
is
too
small.
A
What
you're
proposing
is
too
large,
too
tall
too
much
density
too
much
massing.
There
are
a
number
of
considerations
around
the
the
loading
and
servicing
that
that
was
going
to
be
causing
significant
challenges.
It
would
not
be
supported.
The
application
came
in.
We
are
responding
to
it.
The
applicant
responded
with
some
minor
revisions,
but
it
is
still
too
tall
just
to
provide
some
context.
It
started
off
as
a
forty
three
storey
tower
coming
down
hard
at
the
corner,
church
and
Wellesley.
A
It
is
now
a
thirty-nine
storey
tower
coming
down
in
church
and
Wellesley,
with
the
effective
width
by
and
also
affecting
65
existing
rental
dwelling
buildings,
we're
very
far
from
a
resolution,
and
this
matter
will
now
be.
It's
been
appealed
and
there
is
a
pre-hearing
that's
now
set
at
the
new
El
Pat
and
the
tribunal
scheduled
for
May
the
28th.
So
that's
where
it's
heading
and
city,
legal
and
City
Planning
will
be
going
to
defend
a
City
Council's
position,
all
those
in
favor
the
recommendations
in
staff
report
any
opposed
that
carries.
Thank
you.