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Toronto and East York Community Council, meeting 10, November 5, 2019 - Part 2 of 2
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A
C
None
councillor,
lady.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
a
motion,
and
this
is
a
referral
motion
asking
for
two
pieces
of
information
come
to
our
December
meeting.
That's
a
breakdown
of
the
associated
fees
for
the
spots
there's
a
and
a
of
the
feasibility
of
installing
a
2
car
loading
zone
on
on
Bedford.
At
this
location,
the
the
report
outlines
a
rather
steep
cost
to
the
parking
spots.
A
I
know
if
the
counselor
Wang
Tam
is
not
with
us.
I
know:
she's
in
the
building,
so
I'm
gonna
hold
on
to
1044
until
she's
back,
which
takes
us
to
ten
point.
Four
six
extended
approval
for
a
year-round
operation
of
parklets
and
parklet
cafes
on
King
Street
and
Duncan
Street.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
make
a
deputation
on
this
item,
seeing
none
councilor
Cressy
on
1046?
A
D
A
The
next
item
is
te
10.49,
making
parking
pad
rules
clearer
and
creating
a
path
for
electrical
vehicle
charging
on
residential
streets.
We
have
a
number
of
Deputies,
John,
slaughter,
John,
know
Deborah
d'alene,
hi
Deborah
come
on
up
just
take
any
seat.
You
like
that's
perfect
and
just
check
that
the
light
is
on
in
front
of
your
microphone
there.
Okay
you'll
have
five
minutes
and
you
can
watch
your
time
over
here
on
the
wall
clock
to
my
right.
Okay,.
E
Hello,
my
name
is
Deborah
de'longhi,
Beach's,
East,
York
resident
and
I
would
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
very
important
issue.
Many
of
us
in
Beaches
East
York,
find
it
hard
to
choose
to
drive
an
electric
vehicle
because
we
cannot
park
and
charge
the
Evi
at
our
homes
overnight.
E
Many
of
us
do
not
have
driveways,
as
in
my
case
and
many
of
my
neighbor's
cases,
I
own
a
home
without
parking,
but
I
am
here
to
support
councillor
Bradford's
recommendation
referred
to
as
making
parking
pad
rules
clearer
and
creating
a
path
for
electric
vehicle
charging
on
residential
streets.
As
per
his
letter,
first
I'd
like
to
say
that
I
agree
with
councillor
Bradford's
points
as
outlined
in
my
deputation
documents.
E
My
points
are
the
following
one:
the
City
of
Toronto
has
officially
recognized
that
we
are
facing
a
climate
emergency,
and
thus
we
must
do
everything
possible
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
where
possible,
for
the
multiple
purposes
of
reducing
traffic
congestion,
local
pollution
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
It
is
better
if
do
not
drive
cars
and
use
alternative
transportation
options
instead,
however,
this
is
an
unrealistic
expectation
for
many
in
the
city.
Given
the
well
recognized
problems
we
are
having
in
building
out
our
public
transit
system,
not
to
mention
accessibility
issues.
E
Many
people
have
to
drive
an
automobile
to
continue
in
their
jobs
and
make
a
living
facilitate
family
and
social
life,
etc.
Moreover,
we
have
to
recognize
that,
although
some
might
like
to
see
an
overnight
transition,
for
example
car
as
a
service
and
other
related
approaches
other
than
individual
car
ownership,
our
culture
has
been
one
of
car
ownership
for
decades.
This
individualism
and
Association
of
the
car
with
freedom
will
not
change
overnight
as
evidence
by
the
fact
that
even
most
residents
with
driveways
still
drive
gas
cars.
E
E
Although
Toronto's
residents
have
access
to
clean
electricity
and
electric
vehicles
are
widely
available,
we
are
continuing
to
pollute
and
increase
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
driving
vehicles
with
combustion
engines.
Our
main
source
of
GHGs
in
Ontario
is
from
transportation,
not
energy.
Thus,
we
need
incentives
in
Toronto
to
switch
gas
cars
to
v's
a
parking
pad
adds
to
the
value
of
a
home.
Thus,
this
becomes
an
incentive
for
choosing
and
Evi
with
the
proposed
linkage.
E
Paying
attention
to
the
design
of
incentives
in
any
policy
is
important,
admittedly,
more
concrete
in
Tehran
two
is
not
favorable,
but
many
residents
do
do
need
to
park
a
car
at
their
home
and
asking
them
to
choose
an
Eevee
instead
of
a
gas
car
in
return
for
granting
them
a
parking
pad
is
a
reasonable
request
and
a
balanced
approach.
Solving
two
problems
at
the
same
time.
Three
at
this
time,
neither
the
City
of
Toronto
Nora
Ontario
is
facilitating
the
switch
from
gas
cars
to
EVs.
E
Although
the
federal
government
offers
some
relatively
minor
incentives,
only
up
to
$5,000
the
most
recently
elected
Ontario
government
stopped
the
previous
government's
evie
incentives
that
were
helping
people
switch
to
electric
vehicles.
The
CBC
has
explained
that
evie
sales
have
dropped
more
than
50
percent,
since
the
incentives
were
removed.
Now
those
residents
who
do
not
have
parking
choosing
to
pay
the
high
out-of-pocket
cost
of
an
e
V
cannot
even
park
near
home
and
charge
overnight
when
it
is
most
convenient
and
the
price
of
electricity
is
lowest.
E
Therefore,
under
the
current
conditions,
we
are
stopping
many
of
those
even
willing
to
pay
the
higher
initial
price
of
an
e
V
from
making
this
environmentally
friendly
choice,
which
is
beneficial
to
all
of
our
health.
For
for
our
city
economy
to
work.
Well,
we
have
to
help
people
get
to
work
in
a
low-carbon
way.
Transit
is
stalled
and
has
been
stalled
for
decades,
and
the
province
is
not
facilitating
transit
or
low
emissions
solutions.
E
E
By
recommending
the
proposed
solution
5,
even
if
the
province
were
offering
incentives,
the
city
would
need
to
find
a
way
to
help
residents
without
parking
own
and
use
v's
instead
of
gas
cars
to
allow
them
to
make
the
choice
we
should
not
have
to
move
from
our
homes
in
order
to
have
a
choice.
This
solution
is
urgent,
because
residents
are
feeling
increasingly
frustrated
that
they
do
not
have
a
choice.
6,
in
addition
to
the
councillors
recommendation.
A
F
F
E
I
think
your
recommendation
is
one
of
them,
but
for
those
of
us
who
can't
have
a
parking
pad
in
any
case,
because
we
have
other
things
on
our
front
yard,
we
need
to
have
some
charging
along
the
street,
perhaps
or
at
the
end
of
you
know,
at
the
end
of
streets
like
in
our
neighborhood.
We
have
those
kind
of
ends
and
places
where
you
can
put
charging.
So
it's
walkable
to
get
to
my
car
in
the
morning
and
remember
we
have
cold
winters
and
they're
getting
colder,
so
it
does
need
to
be
reasonably
close.
E
The
other
thing,
too,
is
that,
with
all
these
wind
storms
we're
having
problems
with
AC
systems,
electrical
I'm,
electrical
engineer
and
I've
worked
with
Ontario
Hydro
so
and
we've
seen
also
wildfires
in
California
because
of
the
electrical
systems
partially
combined
with
climate
issues
and
wind
storms.
So
you
know
you
can
also
put
in
new
lines
and
I.
E
Think
Toronto
Hydro
has
been
doing
some
of
this,
but
you
can
vary
DC
lines
instead
of
having
AC
systems
and
then
you
could
put
charging
infrastructure
attached
to
those
AC
systems
or
I
mean
you
could
probably
use
the
existing
systems
and
do
that
now,
so
it
wouldn't
be
as
expensive,
but
there
are
options
for,
for
example,
burying
you
know
the
the
wiring
in
the
site
along
the
sidewalk
edges,
so
that
you
could
put
plugs
like
right
in
the
sidewalks.
For
example,
I.
G
E
What
we
need
to
do
is
talk
to
some
of
our
clean
tech
entrepreneurs
in
this
city,
because
we've
remained
us
talent
and
asked
them
to
develop,
and
you
know
stake
hold
in
a
through
a
stakeholder
consultation.
You
know,
how
can
we
do
this,
and
and
so
what
we
have
to
have
accessibility
for
people
who
will
never
be
able
to
have
a
parking
pad,
but
your
recommendation
is
one
good
step
along
the
way,
so.
H
H
H
H
The
second
portion
of
his
recommendations
asks
for
staff,
a
staff
report
for
the
future
on
the
possibility
of
imposing
the
requirement
for
hydro
charging
stations
for
front
near
parking
pads.
So
let
me
just
highlight
the
rationale
that's
been
provided
by
the
councillor
and
why
I
think
that
there
are
fun
two
flaws,
one.
H
The
counselor
suggests
that
the
bylaw
currently
is
confusing,
and
while
there
are
many
provisions,
it
is
pretty
clear.
It
says
you
can't
apply
for
a
front
yard
parking
pad,
but
you
can
appeal
if
there
is
no
other
parking
available,
and
that
includes
on
street.
Permit
parking,
it
is
simple
you
can
park.
If
you
can't
park,
you
can
appeal
to
community
council
for
a
front
yard
parking
pad.
So
it's
not
a
matter
of
confusion.
H
Secondly,
there's
a
suggestion
that
there's
a
need
to
harmonize
the
north
and
south
parts
of
the
new
Ward.
There
are
many
things
that
have
not
been
harmonized:
north
and
south,
such
as
snow
clearing.
As
you
know,
we
have
very
distinct
and
different
zoning
bylaws
across
the
existing
Ward,
and
we
have
not
moved
to
harmonize
everything
within
the
new
Ward's
and,
lastly,
I
think
the
approach,
while
laudable
to
look
at
enhancing
access
to
hydro
charging
stations.
It
really
puts
the
cart
before
the
horse.
H
It
says,
go
ahead
and
you
can
install
front
yard
parking
pads
now
in
Ward,
19
and
sometime
in
the
future.
We
will
get
a
report
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
is
the
wrong
approach
and
that
what
you
need
to
do
is
if
you're
going
to
consider
the
installation
of
any
future
front
yard
parking
pads
and
making
them
any
easier
or
legalizing
the
many
that
are
there
that
create
very
unfair
conditions.
Then
we
should
make
sure
that
there
are
other
environmental
benefits
from
installing
any
new
front
yard
parking
pads.
H
As
you
know,
right
now,
while
it
says
they
must
have
permeable
paving,
there
are
no
standards
for
permeable
infrastructure,
except
our
Green
Streets
standards.
We
work
very
hard
to
develop
Green
Street
standards,
so
we're
going
to
allow
any
kind
of
hard
services
that
reports
to
be
permeable.
We
should
be
looking
at
making
sure
that
those
standards
are
met
and
that,
just
like
our
green
development
standards,
the
stormwater
that
is
created
on-site
should
be
kept
on
site.
So
there
should
not
be
any
net
increase
in
storm
water
as
a
result
of
installing
front
yard
parking
pads.
H
So
before
you
is
an
amendment
that
will
allow
for
the
building
of
many
many
many
more
front
yard
parking
pads.
That
cannot
and
will
not
be
permeable
in
areas
that
are
basement
flooding
areas
basement
flooding
area,
one
number
one
in
top
and
park,
and
in
Park,
View
hills
and
Woodbine
Gardens
we're
spending
almost
20
million
dollars,
great
infrastructure
to
stop
flooding
and
yet
we're
opening
the
door
with
this
motion
to
allow
for
the
installation
of
front
yard
parking
pads.
H
That
is
the
wrong
way
to
go,
and
we
work
very
hard
as
we
face
increasing
storm,
extreme
weather
and
climate
change.
We
know
that
what
we
need
to
do
is
move
in
exactly
the
opposite
direction,
so
I
put
forward
to
motion
on
page
two
that
asks
you
to
refer
back
to
staff
and
ask
for
a
further
report.
It's.
H
I
A
F
F
You
know
it's
on
the
file.
Okay,
wonderful!
So
one
of
your
concerns
that
you
just
mentioned
part
in
the
pine,
but
it
sounds
like-
might
be,
opening
the
floodgates
on
parking
pads
concerns
our
stormwater
management
Oh
Anna
in
the
letter
here,
the
proliferation
of
hey,
that's
a
good
joke,
yeah,
yeah,
okay!
So.
F
J
F
F
H
A
H
Thought
that
the
counselor
is
going
to
say,
I
was
here
all
that
time
and
what
did
I
do
about
it,
so
maybe
I
and
I'm
anticipating
and
answering
the
wrong
question.
But
what
I
wanted
to
do
and
expressed
it
many
times
around.
The
Circle
is
to
create
an
environment
where
we're
not
building
any
more
hard
surfaces
for
parking,
except
in
in
very
exceptional
circumstances,
and
so
we
should
have
authorized
on
street
parking
everywhere
so
that
people
park
where
there
is
already
hard
surfaces
and
I
understand
that
that's
been
moved
off.
H
But
secondly,
I
do
believe
that
if
we're
going
to
legalize
existing
ones
or
build
any
new
ones
that
there
has
to
be
an
environmental
benefit
from
it.
And
so
my
motion
says
refer
it
back
and
have
a
report
back
so
that
you're
not
imposing
the
new
bylaw
amendments
before
you
get.
The
environmental
benefits
can.
H
F
Stormwater,
water
management
and
hearts
in
2017,
our
general
manager
of
transportation
services,
presented
a
report
to
pee
week
to
remember
that,
in
any
case,
she
outlined
the
environmental
impacts
of
stormwater
runoff.
Very
specifically,
in
that
report,
do
you
have
a
sense
of
the
impact
of
stormwater
runoff
associated
with
parking
pads
versus
driveways.
H
It
would
all
depend
on
the
materials
that
are
used
which
and
which
they
discussed,
and
we
should
have-
and
we
should
have
green,
that
we
should
be
using
the
Green
Streets
technical
guidelines
to
be
implemented
along
with
any
further
provisions
of
front
yard
parking
pads.
Or
what
we're
going
to
do
is
to
continue
to
worsen
the
stormwater
problem
in
in
our
community
and
so
that
what
I'm
simply
suggesting
is
refer.
It
back
and
then
consider
whether
or
not
to
grant
any
further
access
to
front
yard
parking.
But
only
if
there
are
increased
environmental
benefits.
So.
F
H
They
there
are
mutually
reinforcing.
Presumably
the
city
as
well
is
already
working,
as
it
was
several
years
ago
on
developing
an
electric
car
strategy,
and
presumably
that's
somewhere
within
and
I'm,
simply
saying
put
that,
along
with
the
other
environmental
standards
for
stormwater
and
bring
it
back
together.
So.
F
H
F
Had
permit
but
I
can
ask
a
question
if
you
had
permit
parking
in
East
York
and
you
had
say
you
had
a
mutual
driveway
and
you
satisfied
all
the
requirements
outlined
in
Chapter
house
question
918
for
a
Frightmare
parking
pad,
but
you
wanted
to
have
an
electric
vehicle
and
the
biggest
challenge
to
having
an
electric
vehicle.
Was
you
had
nowhere
to
charge
it?
What
would
your
recommendation
be
for
that
individual
who
wanted
to
have
any
view?
Well.
H
G
A
J
G
L
Surname
I
am
that
would
be,
it
would
be
just
embarrassing
for
me.
Thank
you
for
hearing
me.
I
am
I'm
a
resident
of
Ward
32
I'm
fairly
new
to
the
neighborhood
and
I
live
about
a
block
from
the
water
I
have
a
mutual
Drive,
and
a
street
parking
permit.
I
know
I'm
very
fortunate
to
live
where
I
do
and
was
advised
that
I
could
apply
for
a
parking
pad
when
I
when
I
bought
the
house
once
I
became
a
resident.
L
What
I
didn't
know
when
I
moved
in
was
the
nightmare
of
finding
parking
close
to
your
home
when
you
live
as
close
to
the
water
as
I
do
in
the
peak
of
the
summer,
and
just
forget
about
the
nights
where
there's
fireworks,
because
you
can't
park
anywhere
near
your
house
for
blocks
if
he
don't
come
home
early.
More
importantly,
I
live
alone
and
I
prosecute
gang
activity
in
the
city
for
a
living.
So
initially
my
main
concern
for
a
parking
permit
was
my
safety.
L
I
applied
I
was
told
that,
but
that
I
couldn't
apply
that
the
code
had
changed.
The
Municipal
Code
no
longer
allowed
any
applications
in
my
neighborhood.
The
other
significant
reason
was
that
I
wanted
to
move
to
an
electric
vehicle.
I
was
told:
that's
not
even
a
point
of
appeal,
whether
I
couldn't
even
apply
for
the
factor
now
like
so
many
Canadians
I'm
frightened
by
the
horrors
of
climate
change
and
I,
won't
go
into
the
details.
L
Some
of
the
other
speakers
have
the
neighborhood
that
I
live
in
is
very
environmentally
conscious,
as
am
I
and
I
want
to
start
to
reduce
my
carbon
footprint.
I
am
ready
to
buy
an
electric
vehicle
and
have
what
have
one
now,
if
I
had
a
parking
pad.
I
understand
the
last
speakers
concerns,
but
there
are
ways
to
make
a
parking
pad
green.
My
plan
would
be
to
put
the
the
grass
block
pavers,
where
there's
grass
growing
in
between
the
rocks,
there's
simply
two
strips
of
those
on
the
lawn.
L
You
won't
even
notice
them
if
the
cars
not
actually
parked
there.
Those
stones
are
known
to
reduce
stormwater
runoff,
which
the
last
speaker
was
concerned
about
and
recharged
the
groundwater.
The
charging
station
would
also
be
surrounded
by
plants
and
pleasing
to
the
eye.
I
support
council,
councilman
Bradford's
initiative
here,
I
think
it's
about
time
that
if
all
levels
of
government
have
been
saying
for
the
past
eight
months,
that
they
support
green
initiatives,
this
is
one
that
should
be
supported.
It's
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
demonstrate
that
commitment.
L
If,
if
restrictions
want
to
be
put
on
it,
that
it's
exclusively
for
electric
for
electric
parking
and
that
before
the
pad
is
legal,
the
the
applicant
has
to
install
at
their
cost
the
charging
station
then
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
certainly
I
would
be
happy
to
do,
and
anyone
else
I
know
in
the
neighborhood
who
is
considering
that
who
can't
do
that
with
permit
parking,
would
like
it.
So
unless
there's
any
questions,
that's
all
I
have
thank.
A
M
Good
afternoon
to
the
committee,
when
we
purchased
our
home
about
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
we
knew
there
was
no
legal
front
yard
parking
pad.
An
earlier
committee
of
adjustment
decision
at
our
property
had
allowed
a
reduction
of
the
front
landscaped
area,
and
there
is
a
paved
area
too.
We
are
ready
to
park
a
car
other
than
the
fact
that
there's
no
sidewalk
cut
to
allow
access
the
neighbors
on
either
side
of
our
house
have
licensed
front
parking
pads
along
with
many
other
neighbors
on
our
block.
Our
street
crew
Avenue
is
a
one-way
street.
M
Eastbound
crew
is
nine
streets
in
north
of
Danforth
Avenue,
just
south
of
London
and
two
streets
west
of
Main
Street.
To
give
you
an
idea
of
my
neighborhood,
it's
a
quiet
residential
area
on
our
block.
The
north
side
has
on
street
parking,
but
there's
none
on
the
south
side,
which
is
our
side
of
the
street.
12
of
the
28
houses
on
our
block
have
licensed
front
parking
pads
and
another
10
have
driveways
for
parking.
The
remaining
six
houses,
including
ours,
have
only
on
street
parking
as
an
option.
M
It
can
be
challenging
to
find
a
place
to
park
on
our
block
with
the
many
driveways
that
require
access
along
with
the
fire
hydrants,
where
you
can't
park,
I
would
say,
for
the
most
part,
I
think
the
neighbors
do
a
good
job
of
not
taking
extra
space
to
allow
two
cars
to
park
between
some
of
the
driveways,
although
sometimes
one
poorly
parked
car
occupies
two
possible
spaces
and,
of
course,
in
the
winter
snow
piles
typically
occupy
several
of
these
spaces.
That
would
otherwise
provide
a
room
to
park.
M
One
neighbor
right
across
the
street
blocks
their
own
driveway
with
their
second
vehicle,
which
is
kind
since
nobody
else
can
park
there,
and
this
leaves
another
space
open
on
the
street.
Allowing
my
property
to
have
a
front
yard
parking
pad
would
have
no
detrimental
impacts.
There
is
already
a
paved
park
spot
to
park.
The
front
area
where
you
would
park
is
already
paved.
M
That's
been
approved
through
a
committee
of
adjustment,
as
I
mentioned,
it
would
take
one
court,
one
more
car
off
the
street
to
allow
the
neighbors
easier
access
for
guest
parking,
occasional
parking
and
provide
revenues
to
the
city
as
a
guiding
principle.
Parking
rules
in
the
City
of
Toronto
should
be
equitable.
I
have
no
objection
to
the
current
fees
that
are
payable
related
to
a
new
parking
pad
application,
which
includes
the
application
fee
itself,
the
cost
for
tree
planting
the
cost
of
the
curb
cut
and
other
miscellaneous
items
plus
the
annual
fee.
M
If
the
city
wishes
to
raise
funds
for
on
street
evie
stations,
which
I
am
supportive
of,
this
should
be
done
across
the
tax
base
and
not
be
borne
by
new
parking
pad
applicants,
though
I
am
not
presently
an
owner
of
an
electric
vehicle.
I
see
this
as
being
only
a
matter
of
time:
I'm
supportive
of
councillor
Bradford's
initiative
to
harmonize
front
yard,
parking
pad
rules
across
the
city
and
to
permit
new
applications.
A
M
It
has
to
do
with
miss
Davis's
point
about
the
clarity
of
current
parking
rules
and
I've
been
advised
that
I
can't
make
an
application.
But
if
I
understood
miss
Davis's
statement
correctly,
I
would
have
a
means
to
appeal,
since
a
I
don't
have
permission
to
apply
for
a
punt
here
at
parking
pad
and
be.
My
block
doesn't
permit
on
street
parking
permits.
M
A
A
I
Afternoon
committee,
my
name
is
Brian
Wallach
and
I'm.
A
longtime
resident
of
Toronto
and
East
York
I
am
thankful
to
have
been
given
the
privilege
to
speak
with
you
today
about
this
matter.
This
is
something
that
my
family
has
been
trying
to
gain
traction
on
for
the
past
five
years,
our
growing
family,
two
small
kids
and
one
more
on
the
way
currently
live
in
a
semi-detached
home
on
Main
Street.
We
have
a
dirt
patch
in
the
front
and
we
have
been
trying
to
get
it
covered
it
to
a
parking
pad.
I
Originally
we
wanted
a
parking
pad
to
help
our
families
stay
safe,
Main
Street
is
extremely
busy
with
drivers
who
regularly
exceed
the
speed
limit
crossing
a
very
busy
street
multiple
times
a
day
with
two
kids
and
bags
is
dangerous
for
our
family.
To
add
to
this,
my
wife
and
my
son
both
suffer
from
asthma
and
it
has
become
increasingly
difficult
to
park.
I
Far
from
our
home,
when
there
are
no
Street
spots
available,
we've
seen
so
many
home
rebuilds
in
our
neighborhood,
all
with
News
rival,
ways
that
weren't
there
prior
and
whenever
we
questioned
why
they
all
got
approved,
we're
told
that
they
found
loopholes
in
the
system.
This
is
extremely
unfortunate,
frustrating
and
unfair.
What
really
excelled
this
issue
into
high
gear
for
us
now
is
that
we
are
now
an
expanding
family
with
a
baby
on
the
way,
and
given
this
we
have
an
immediate
need
for
a
new
vehicle
that
can
accommodate
three
children.
I
Well,
I
agree
that
we
have
a
vast
public
transit
network
and
we
generally
make
use
of
it
when
we
can.
There
are
times
that
we
need
to
venture
out
of
the
city
to
see
doctors,
specialists
as
well
as
to
visit
family,
and
thus
we
have
a
major
need
for
a
car.
My
family
strives
to
be
green,
and
so
we
are
dead
set
against
sorry.
I
We
are
dead
set
on
our
next
vehicle
being
electric,
given
the
current
state
of
climate
change
in
the
world,
there's
an
immediate
need
to
retire
gas-powered
vehicles
from
our
streets
and
replace
them
with
v's.
Most
major
car
manufacturers
have
already
outlined
their
roadmaps
for
the
next
20
years,
which
include
phasing
out
gas
car
production
entirely
in
favor
of
v's.
What
will
we
do
when,
in
the
near
future?
Our
neighborhoods
have
failed
to
adapt
to
this
important
positive
change.
If
gas
vehicles
are
no
longer
available,
what
will
people
do?
I
Who
need
a
personal
vehicle,
but
their
homes
and
neighborhoods
don't
offer
electric
charging
stations?
Now?
Is
the
time
to
plan
ahead
and
retrofit
our
old
streets
for
electric
vehicles
or
our
ward
risks
becoming
less
functional
and
overall
less
attractive,
in
other
words,
in
other
regions
in
the
GTA,
we
have
tried
every
method
possible
to
obtain
an
Eevee
trying
to
get
a
full
green
parking
pad
installed,
which
we
were
denied
and
even
thought
about
running
an
extension
cord
from
our
house
to
our
street
and
of
course
we
were
told
that
it's
not
acceptable
each
corner.
I
We
turned
to
try
and
go
green.
We
have
been
denied.
There
is
no
reason
why
that
in
a
world-class
city
like
Toronto,
we
should
be
denied
the
ability
to
help
save
the
planet.
I
implore
you
to
help
me
help
my
family
help
like
climate
change,
aligned
with
all
other
levels
of
government
to
help
East
York
become
the
model
for
the
rest,
it's
Ragno
by
amending
or
rolling
back.
This
antiquated
by
a
law
that
was
put
into
practice
before
electric
vehicles
and
group
has
were
an
option,
help
us
shape
the
future
before
it's
too
late.
I
J
Yes,
well,
many
of
the
speakers
have
mentioned
that
it
isn't
really
realistic
to
assume
that
everyone
can
do
without
a
car.
Many
people
have
reasons
why
they
need
to
have
a
car.
Ours
is
the
fact
that
my
husband
has
a
mobility
disability
and
he
often
has
to
park
a
long
way
from
our
home.
A
parking
pad
can
be
constructed
in
a
way
to
improve
stormwater
runoff
runoff.
J
J
B
J
J
B
J
Quite
aware
of
that,
my
husband
has
attempted
to
park
in
in
in
these
kind
of
places
in
other
sections
of
the
city,
which
include
an
argument
from
the
owner
who
thought
that
that
was
designated
for
herself
only
right,
so
I.
Don't
really
think
that
those
are
are
ideal.
Okay,
if
another
solution
can
thank
you,
Thank.
A
N
We've
come
to
know
the
friends
we
made
on
the
street
as
family,
and
that
was
a
big
factor
in
a
stay.
Shortly
after
we
moved
into
our
new
home
a
parking
op
enforcement
officer
visited
while
I
was
working
issued
at
work
and
issued
my
wife
a
parking
infraction
for
parking
on
our
driveway.
He
advised
that
we
weren't
legally
allowed
to
park
there
and
that
barriers
would
be
installed
to
prevent
us
from
doing
so
in
the
future.
I
found
that
threat
to
be
unnecessarily
drastic.
N
N
Furthermore,
the
parking
pad
is
currently
paid
with
permeable
material
as
per
the
requirements
of
the
Municipal
Code,
and
it
also
complies
with
the
dimensional
requirements
for
a
front
yard
parking
pad
as
specified
in
the
Municipal
Code.
Additionally,
there's
no
on
street
parking
on
our
side
of
the
street,
so
our
curb
cut
has
no
impact
on
the
available
parking
supply
in
the
neighborhood,
given
that
it
appears
that
I
should
be
fully
eligible
to
apply
for
a
front
yard.
Perking
parking
permit
for
my
property.
N
According
to
the
Municipal
Code
I
went
to
the
parking
office
at
the
East
Year
Community
Center,
to
apply
for
a
legal
permit
immediately
after
I
received
the
infraction.
However,
city
staff,
there
advised
me
that
they
were
no
longer
accepting
applications
and
that
I
would
have
to
apply
for
on
street
parking.
I
asked
if
I
had
the
opportunity
to
appeal-
and
they
told
me
I-
didn't
because
there's
a
moratorium
on
applications
in
my
ward
I
find
the
situation
to
be
unreasonable
based
on
the
following
facts.
The
curb
cut
for
a
parking
space
already
exists
to
me.
N
The
signals
that
at
one
point,
a
legal
parking
space
did
exist
in
this
location
with
our
car
parked
on
the
driveway.
It
does
not
encroach
onto
the
pedestrian
sidewalk
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
In
fact,
there
is
enough
enough
room
to
accommodate
a
5.3
meter
long
space
with
a
0.3
meter
setback
from
the
back
sidewalk,
as
required
by
the
code
in
this
segment
of
salmon
Avenue.
There
is
no
parking
on
the
north
side
of
my
street
at
any
time.
N
Therefore,
reinstating
this
kerb
would
not
result
in
more
on
street
parking
being
available
for
the
use
for
use
by
the
public
or
other
residents
of
the
neighborhood
on
street
parking
on
salmon.
Avenue
is
very
hard
to
come
by.
In
fact,
on
street
parking
permits
are
90
to
99
percent
subscribed
in
my
area.
According
to
information
on
the
city's
website,
it
does
not
make
sense
to
force
us
to
park
our
car
on
the
street,
taking
up
one
more
valuable
space
when
I
have
a
perfectly
functional
and
existing
parking
space
in
our
front
yard.
N
Furthermore,
a
lot
of
these
on
Street
spaces
are
lost.
Its
no
storage
in
the
winter
is
one
of
the
previous
speakers
mentioned,
given
that
on-street
parking
isn't
always
available
in
front
of
our
house,
we'd
regularly
be
forced
to
park
some
distance
away
from
our
front
door.
This
makes
traveling
with
an
infant
unnecessarily
more
difficult.
Also
salmon
is
a
busy
street
so
busy
that
speed
humps
were
installed
last
year.
It
is
significantly
less
safe
for
us
to
cross
a
busy
street
with
a
child
than
it
is
for
us
to
park
in
our
own
driveway.
N
This
is
especially
true
now
that
salmon
Avenue
has
been
made
a
truck
route
for
construction
vehicles
related
to
the
Michael
Guerin
hospital
project.
There
are
several
legal
front
parking
pads
on
Savan
Avenue
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
Our
neighbor
immediately
to
the
east
of
us
has
one
given
this
precedent.
I
believe
it
is
inequitable
to
deny
us
a
permit
for
an
existing
functional
and
unobtrusive
front
yard
parking
space.
N
How
is
our
hearts'
house
different
from
any
of
the
others
I'm
trying
to
make
my
best
effort
to
get
this
matter
resolved
through
the
proper
channels
and
process?
I
could
like
many
people
in
this
neighborhoods,
neighborhood
and
city,
do
maintain
an
illegal
parking
space
and
take
my
chances
with
enforcement.
However,
I
believe
it's
my
civic
duty
to
pay
for
the
appropriate
pay,
the
appropriate
fees
for
utilizing
a
portion
of
the
municipal
right
away.
Even
the
above
I,
fully
support
this
motion
put
forth
by
councillor
Bradford
a
complete
moratorium
on
front
yard.
N
Parking
permits
in
our
Ward
is
ignorant
of
the
practical
needs
of
the
community
and
I'm
not
sure
what
it
attends
to
achieve
other
than
encouraging
illegal
parking
and
exacerbating
existing
neighborhood
parking
capacity
issues
I'm,
not
against
policy
that
aims
to
ensure
a
sustainable
society
as
we
move
into
the
future.
I
am
all
for
prioritizing
transit,
cyclists
and
pedestrians
over
private
vehicles
within
the
public
realm.
However,
these
policies
should
be
in
full
implemented
in
a
manner
that's
practical
and
equitable.
N
We
still
live
in
a
city
where
utilizing
a
private
vehicle
is
necessary
in
some
instances
and
is
more
than
just
a
convenience,
particularly
for
families
with
small
children.
Like
artists,
none
of
my
neighbors
seemed
to
have
an
issue
with
the
parking
addition
on
my
lot.
So
why
should
I
not
be
allowed
to
apply
for
a
permit?
Why
should
I
be
forced
to
occupy
a
non
street
parking
space
that
could
be
utilized
by
a
resident
that
doesn't
have
a
driveway
on
their
property?
It's
simply
not
an
efficient,
Ryan,
I'm
gonna.
Ask
you,
for
your
final
thought.
N
A
C
Counsel
early,
thank
you
just
cuz.
It's
come
up
a
couple
times.
It's
not
really
the
subject
of
the
the
report,
so
I'll
ask
for
a
little
latitude
from
from
the
chair
on
the
permeability
there.
There
was
reference
to
a
report
in
2017
report
on
permeability
and,
and
that
report
mentions
an
industry
scan.
Can
someone
tell
me
what
that
industry
scan
was
and
how
much
research
went
into
it?.
C
If
not,
that's
a
fair
question,
because
I've
added
something
to
the
agenda
that
that
I
hope
to
answer
that
question
like
I'm,
just
curious.
If
we
looked
at
what
was
on
offer,
can
someone
tell
me
then
what
what
requirements
do
we
have
when
someone's
putting
in
a
legal
front
yard
parking
pad
for
permeability
who
checked
like
what
is
it
and
who
checks.
C
O
C
O
C
O
C
O
F
O
O
F
So
one
thing
we
hear
about
is
people
going
through
the
committee
of
adjustment
as
a
backdoor
route
for
parking
pads.
Can
you
tell
us
some
of
the
ways
people
are
where
there's
currently
a
moratorium
like
Ward
31
East
York,
try
to
get
permission
for
a
parking
pad
they're
not
able
to
do
because
of
the
moratorium
brought
in
in
2009?
How
do
they
go
about
doing
that
now
through
the
committee
of
adjustment.
F
If
the
variance
is
granted
by
the
C
of
a
irrespective
of
whether
a
permit
parking
is
impacted
or
not,
transportation
services
will
have
to
approve
the
resultant
request
to
pave
the
Boulevard
City
portion
to
gain
access
to
the
front
yard
pad
which
includes
providing
a
permitted
curb
cut.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
O
F
F
If
we
went
through
the
front
yard
parking
process
that
I'm
proposing,
we
would
have
checks
and
balances
at
just,
as
there
are
in
other
front
yard
parking
pads
here
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
We
would
actually
be
able
to
address
the
stormwater
management
piece
in
the
permeable
pavers.
However,
through
the
sea
of
a
variance
approach,
you
don't
have
that
control.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
O
O
F
O
O
F
O
O
F
F
A
Your
last
question,
thank
you.
I
have
a
few
questions.
So
since
we
have
energy
environment
staff
on
the
floor,
you've
modeled,
you
have
in
front
of
a
plan
for
the
City
of
Toronto,
transform
tÃo
in
Devon,
designing,
transform
teo.
You
brought
in
consultants
to
look
at
the
available
sources
of
energy,
our
electricity
capacity
and
so
on,
and
the
recommendation
was
to
not
fully
implement
electric
vehicle
fleets
right
now,
because
the
City
of
Toronto
electricity
grid
does
not
have
capacity
to
do
that.
Correct.
A
G
A
K
A
A
A
You
very
much
now
we
got
some
answers
of
a
moment
ago
about
the
committee
of
adjustment
and
it
not
having
the
same
requirements
when
someone
brings
a
proposal
to
the
committee
of
adjustment
to
put
parking
pad
entirely
on
the
private
side,
I've
had
the
experience
of
Transportation
staff
and
planning
staff
writing
reminding
the
committee
of
adjustment
of
the
requirements
in
our
bylaw
and
encouraging
them
to
either
turn
it
down
or
to
make
sure
that
the
soft
landscaping
and
tree
planting
pieces
are
met.
That's
practice
now,
isn't
it.
A
A
F
Okay,
thanks
very
much
I'm
gonna
just
speak
from
here,
because
I
got
a
couple
slides
on
the
projector.
I
would
like
to
start
by
thanking
everyone
for
their
input
on
this
motion.
It's
been
great
getting
to
work
with
my
colleagues
and
try
and
get
it
to
a
place.
That's
that's
supportable
and
make
sense
and
allows
us
to
listen
to
considerations
of
residents
of
Ward,
19
and
move
forward
and
I'd
actually
really
like
to
thank
the
deputy
who
took
time
out
of
their
busy
day
to
come
down
and
speak
on
this
important
alert.
F
Please
so
put
the
motion
on
the
screen.
There's
some
changes
than
what
you've
seen
in
the
letter,
based
on
the
feedback
from
my
council,
my
kin,
community,
council
colleagues,
so
I
think
that
those
amendments
will
address
a
number
of
your
concerns
and
you
have
a
circular.
This
will
be
supportive.
Do
you
want
me
to
read
the
whole
thing?
Well,.
F
It
so
and
again,
thanks
to
all
the
deputies
who
came
down,
we
we
had
more
than
120
pieces
of
Correspondence
on
this
in
my
office,
which
is
an
incredible
amount
for
something
that
isn't
actually
a
planning
file.
So
this
motion
is
really
about
us,
providing
one
more
support:
one
more
support
for
the
rollout
of
electric
vehicles,
while
updating
the
parking
pad
rules
in
in
the
new
Ward
19.
F
The
relationship,
as
we've
heard
between
parking
pads
and
electric
vehicles,
may
not
be
clear
to
everyone
on
this
committee,
but
I
think
that
there
is
that
there
is
a
relationship
there
and
it's
pretty
simple,
because
unless
you
have
a
private
drive
or
a
garage
there's
no
way
that
you
can
actually
charge
your
electric
vehicle
near
your
home.
So
you
know
you
can't
run
a
chord
across
the
sidewalk
and
even
if
you
wanted
an
electric
vehicle
today,
the
biggest
barrier
is
actually
not
being
able
to
charge
it.
F
So
staff
have
told
us
in
the
October
2017
report,
preparing
Toronto
for
EVs
80%
of
EVs
are
charged
at
home,
and
many
people
currently
are
just
not
able
to
do
that.
There's
very
few
options
for
on
street
charging
and
the
question
I
had
to
staff
that
they
were
not
able
to
answer.
There
was
if
this
started
in
2012.
That
was
the
genesis
of
this,
and
we
are
now
2019
coming
up
on
2020
and
in
fact,
where
we're
at
with
respect
to
a
pilot
program,
not
very
good.
F
So
here's
a
picture
I
took
this
morning
for
you
to
take
a
look
at
if
we
can
get
that
on
the
screen.
This
is
one
of
our
pilot
stations
that
was
supposed
to
have
been
operational
this
summer,
we're
not
even
close
to
being
up
and
running.
If
we
can
just
get
the
monitor
on
there
in
city
city
wide,
we
have
a
grand
total
of
16
stations.
So
what
you're?
Looking
at
right
right
there
is
the
conduit,
I
believe
and
there's
actually
nothing
even
hooked
up
to
it.
F
That's
that's
our
Evie
program,
pretty
abysmal,
so
you
may
haven't
heard
about
this
from
your
residents,
but
in
war
19
it
does
come
up
all
the
time.
The
feedback
and
correspondence
from
the
deputies
speaks
to
that
and
a
number
of
quotes
from
the
survey.
You
know
the
biggest
one
is
these
types
of
policies
are
absolutely
necessary
if
Toronto
is
serious
about
fulfilling
its
recent
call
to
declare
a
climate
emergency.
If
we
recognize
that
40
percent
thirty,
eight
percent
of
our
emissions
are
from
combustion
vehicles.
F
If
we
recognize
and
acknowledge
that
we
have
a
goal
to
eliminate
those
by
2050
I'm,
just
not
seeing
the
roadmap
based
on
the
progress
and
the
speed
at
which
we're
moving.
Today,
if
we
were
to
take
the
16
stations
and
forward
that
at
that
rate
of
progress
to
2050,
we
would
have
96
installed
across
the
city.
I,
don't
think
that's
enough
to
do
it.
Permeability
has
come
up
a
lot.
F
Here's
the
slide
from
2017
report
to
Pia
wick
that
clarifies
it.
There
was
a
lot
of
confusion.
There
you've
seen
this
report
because
you
guys
have
been
here,
but
basically
it's
from
Barbara
gray,
our
general
manager
of
transportation
services.
It's
very
clear
that
the
cumulative
effects
of
parking
pads
have
had
a
minimal
impact
on
stormwater
runoff.
So
the
question
we're
talking
about
is,
you
know:
are
we
trying
to
move
forward
on
GHG
emissions?
F
Are
we
trying
to
provide
practical
and
pragmatic
solutions
to
the
challenges
facing
residents
and
move
forward
with
an
e
V
regime
that
uses
a
collective
response?
I
think
we
are-
and
this
motion
helps
us
do
that.
As
you
heard
from
the
questions,
many
people
are
using
see
of
a
process
as
a
backdoor
route
to
getting
parking
pads.
It
actually
leads
to
more
paved
areas
when
you
have
to
pave
across
a
public
Boulevard
and
then
extend
further
and
we
have
less
control,
as
we
heard
here
for
actually
controlling
the
permeability.
F
I
know,
that's
a
view
that
councillor
perks
shares
as
well.
These
questions
keep
coming
up.
Why
change
the
bylaw
now
I
think
it's
urgent
and
if
we
have
a
climate
of
emergency
and
we're
not
doing
everything
to
address
it,
then
that's
on
us.
The
important
thing
is
we're
trying
to
get
people
who
want
an
e
V,
a
path
to
do
that
in
to
30
2009,
Ward
or
31
slapped
a
moratorium
rather
than
dealing
with
the
difficult
issues
of
working
through
this
that
we
are
trying
to
do
now.
F
F
G
A
We
only
have
two
wires
that
come
into
the
city,
and
if
we
quickly
move
to
oak
to
transition
vehicles
over
to
electricity,
we
will
blow
that
system
out
and
we
will
not
be
able
to
reliably
deliver
electricity
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
So
our
current
climate
plan
was
to
create
electricity
efficiency
to
reduce
electricity
demand
so
that
we
could
open
up
the
space
for
those
vehicles
that
we
need,
not
those
vehicles
that
we
choose,
but
those
vehicles
that
we
need
to
be
run
on
electricity.
A
Well,
we
need
to
create
that
room
first,
because
bringing
a
third
wire
into
the
city
would
cost
100
billion
dollars
and
require
the
demolition
of
several
thousand
homes.
Further.
We
have
long
had
advice
from
our
planning
department
that
it
is
not
a
desirable
outcome
to
have
between
our
sidewalks
and
the
front
wall
of
houses
up
and
down
streets,
rows
of
parked
cars.
A
A
A
Additionally,
our
transportation
staff
have
repeatedly
told
us
that
having
many
breaks
along
a
pedestrian
sidewalk
in
a
neighborhood
that
small
children
use
creates
additional
risk
at
a
time
when
we're
talking
about
trying
to
achieve
vision,
zero,
increasing
the
number
of
vehicles
that
are
moving
on
and
off
the
roadway
and
into
houses
is
of
risk.
We
have
been
told
that
our
tree
canopy
is
too
small
and
we
need
to
be
expanding
it.
That's
why
we
have
a
private
tree
bylaw
this.
A
Incidentally,
the
proposal
by
councillor
Bradford
would
override
some
of
the
provisions
in
the
private
tree
bylaw.
So
there's
a
lot
here
that
has
to
be
waived
pro
and
con,
and
rather
than
have
a
member
of
council
ask
staff
to
draft
a
bylaw
without
attaching
all
the
analysis
and
the
trade-offs
so
that
we
can
make
an
informed
decision.
A
I
would
prefer
that
we
get
all
of
these
questions
in
front
of
us
so
that
we
can
have
an
informed
debate
rather
than
having
each
of
us
bring
whatever
document
we
chose
to
source
our
opinion
from
and
we
could
be
working
off
one
set
of
documents
and
understand
where
it
comes
from.
So
that's
why
I'm
moving
this
referral.
D
F
A
C
All
that's
to
move
our
question
to
just
just
on
some
clarity
around
house
relate
and
your
question
for
Nate.
Thank
you
very
much
so
just
to
confirm,
because
I
I
think
it's
there,
but
I
want
to
make
crystal
clear
for
maybe
staffs
benefit
as
much
as
all
of
ours
that
the
notion
of
harmonizing
30,
Awards,
31
and
32
will
also
be
reported.
Your
intent
by
your
motion,
my.
G
A
Make
to
make
to
make
things
even
more
precise
I'm
going
to
amend
my
motion
to
add
and
all
amendments
considered
by
the
committee.
So
that
way
we
have
both
your
original
motion
and
your
proposed
amendment.
So
all
of
that
will
be
in
the
general
manager's
hands.
Okay,
all
right
any
other
questions
of
the
mover,
Thank
You,
councillor
Fletcher.
So.
B
B
A
B
A
A
Top
of
that
councillor
I'm
sure,
I
I
invite
you
and
any
other
member
of
this
Community
Council,
who
has
advice
for
the
general
manager
as
he's
preparing
that
report,
just
as
she
is
preparing
that
report
to
send
her
any
thoughts
or
advice
that
you
have
as
well,
I
can
I
can
put
on
a
second
round
of
questions.
If
you
want
members,
I've
been
asked
for
a
second
round
of
questions.
All
in
favor
of
post
carry
councillor
Bradford
just.
F
A
At
the
general
managers
discretion,
so
if
the
general
manager
could
could
take
the
view
that
what
you've
proposed
is
a
good
idea
and
give
a
review
based
on
all
these
points,
why?
On
the
balance
of
public
impacts,
what
you've
recommended
is
the
right
way
to
go?
The
general
manager
could
recommend
some
different
version
of
what
you've
proposed.
The
general
manager
could
say,
go
forward
with
none
of
it,
but
I
think
she
would
have
to.
F
A
F
I'm
not
asking
you
to
do
that.
Let
me
clarify
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
write
a
motion
that
requests
them
to
respond
specifically
to
the
items
separately
from
a
broader
conversation
about
parking
doubts,
because
it
sort
of
sounds
like
in
the
way
that
you're
writing
your
motion
here,
you're,
lumping
everything
all
together
and
in
fact
we
would
actually
like
to
refer
the
item
by
item
those
five
motions
to
be
considered
by
the.
A
Motion
does
refer
everything
you
put
in
front
of
this
committee
to
the
general
manager
for
her
to
consider
actually,
according
to
the
procedural
bylaws
AG
committee.
Yes,
you
can
yeah,
so
your
material
is
all
getting
referred.
Counselor
the
general
manager
will
consider
all
of
it.
I.
Just
can't
tell
you
what
her
advice
will
be
in
advance.
B
B
That
is
not
the
role
of
the
general
manager
of
transportation
services,
so
pedestrian
safety
is
right-of-way
management,
but
electricity
tree
canopy,
stormwater
urban
design,
aren't
and
I
need
to
make
sure
that
your
motion
lifts
that
up
that
this
isn't
just
a
transportation
viewpoint
that
it
is
a
kind
of
City
of
Toronto
general
division,
each
one
of
them
ensuring
that
their
viewpoint
is
captured
here
for
us
to
consider
right.
So.
L
A
L
G
A
D
All
right,
Thank,
You
mr.
chair
I,
think
this
is
for
our
latest
and
newest
term
of
Council.
Our
first
parking
pads
below
out.
It
is
I
recall
my
first
meeting
of
TYC
see
five
years
ago
when
I
was
at
the
time
a
new
counselor,
and
that
was
last
term's
parking
pads
below
out
I
was
in
the
thick
of
it,
because
at
that
point,
I
was
not
a
I
didn't
have
a
firm
position
on
parking
pads
as
I
was
still
learning.
D
Let
me
broaden
this
issue,
because
when
you
get
into
parking
pads,
you
get
very
much
into
the
details.
I
mean
at
a
30,000
foot
level
as
a
city
I
think
we
need
less
concrete,
I.
Think
as
a
city,
we
need
more
green
space
and
a
bigger
tree
canopy
and
ultimately,
as
a
city,
we
need
fewer
cars.
Those
are
my
city
objectives,
so
how
do
I
apply
those
city
objectives
to
the
discussion
of
parking
pads?
D
Let
me
start
by
saying
that
I
am
very
sympathetic
to
councillor
Bradford's
efforts
to
make
it
easier
to
own
electric
vehicles,
I'm
equally
sympathetic
to
many
of
the
deputies
we've
heard
today
who
are
seeking
to
own
and
in
turn
operate
conveniently
electric
vehicle
vehicles
I'm
sympathetic
to
that.
But
there
is
a
lot
more
to
the
debate
of
parking
pads
than
simply
the
conversation
around
electric
vehicles,
and
so
just
as
I
can't
support
any
immediate
changes
to
parking
pad
as
one
position.
D
Nor
can
I
support
one
environmental
objective,
that
being
to
reduce
reliance
on
greenhouse
gas
emission
driving
cars
without
considering
all
environmental
impacts.
In
this
case,
stormwater
runoff
is
one
potential
reduction
in
green
spaces.
Another
potential
reduction
in
trees
is
another,
and
so
on,
and
so
on.
So
I
cannot
support.
The
motion
from
councillor
Bradford
at
sympathetic
eye,
as
I
am
too
is
hard
work
and
motivations
and
I
will
be
supporting
the
referral
from
councillor
perks.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
K
K
Know
as
councillor
cressie
just
said
that
this
general
discussion
can
I
often
describe
community
councils,
the
kind
of
committee,
one
of
the
rare
committees
at
City
Hall,
where
we
pretty
much
agree
on
virtually
everything
you
know
up
until
you
know
99.9%
of
the
agenda.
Many
of
them
go
really
quickly,
cuz
we're
all
just
you
know,
looking
at
the
local
councillor
and
having
a
lot
of
trust
when
it
comes
to
hurricane
pads.
We
do
have
these
blowouts
and
a
lot
of
friction.
K
One
is
I've
looked
at
cities
where
there
is
far
more
access
to
electric
vehicle
charging
and
with
envy
and
I
would
like
to
see
us
move
forward
with
that
councillor,
Fletcher
and
I
the
conversation
about
her
efforts
to
increase
access
for
permit
parking
cars
that
are
that
are
that
a
permits
to
access
TV
as
well
and
I.
Just
think
that
is
something
that
will
benefit
our
city
I.
K
You
know
we're
sort
of
split
between
sometimes
just
very
strong
views
on
the
concept
of
parking
pads
and
we
I
don't
think
we
often
enough
get
into
the
context
of
what
people
are
living
with
and
also
what
they've
been
sold
I.
What
a
Grove
ate
some
enormous
ly
is
that
and
Kessler
Bradford
actually
wrote
this
I
just
want
to
refer
to
something
that
counts
for
Bradford
put
in
the
motion.
To
paraphrase
that,
there's
often
a
lot
of
confusion
when
it
comes
to
the
rules.
K
Real
estate
agents
will
very
very
often
you
know,
tell
tell
people,
don't
don't
worry
about
it,
intuitively
it's
already
paved
and
it's
there
and
you
know
so
of
course
it's
fine
or
don't
worry,
or
even
if
it's
not
fine,
yet
it's
a
breeze
to
get
through
City
Hall's,
so
just
go
and
apply
after
you've
bought
the
house
and
a
lot
of
people.
Just
don't
know
what
they're
getting
into
and
then
they
find
themselves
in
situations
where
their
lives
are
adversely
impacted,
because
they
don't
have
ready
access
to
parking
and
they
rely
on
their
car.
K
And
you
know
we
shouldn't
have
to
rely
on
our
cars,
but
a
lot
of
people
do
have
to
rely
on
their
cars.
We
haven't
arrived
at
a
place
where
they're
not,
and
the
reality
is-
is
that
if
you
don't
know
where
to
put
your
car,
that
can
be
an
incredible
stress
in
your
life,
so
I
would
just
like
to
see
more
contextualized
discussions
around
parking
pass,
rather
than
just
like.
We
don't
like
them.
K
So
no
and
I
also
really
appreciate
the
benefit
of
what
councillor
Bradford
is
doing,
which
is
he's
really
actively
listening
to
the
residents
of
his
community
and
he's
doing
what
we
do
in
representative.
Democracies
he's
reflecting
that
he's
bringing
it
to
us
so
I
do
hope
that
I
mean
it
looks
like
we're.
Moving
towards
asking
for
reports.
K
I
will
I
will
look
to
the
local
councillor,
for
you
know
where
he'd
like
to
go
with
this,
but
but
I
do
hope
that
this
report
is
fairly
and
objectively
considered
by
all
of
us
and
that
you
know
we
look
to
how
to
move
forward
with
some
of
these
ideas,
rather
than
just
looking
for
a
way
to
block
it,
because
I
really
do
respect
the
fact
that
the
local
councillor
is
trying
to
do
something
for
both
his
neighborhood,
but
also
for
the
entire
city
with
respect
to
easier
access
to
Edie.
Thank
you.
B
You
I
just
have
made
a
friend
the
amendment
that
the
chair
has
agreed
to
and
that's
to
spell
out
the
divisions
rather
than
say
other
divisions,
so
we're
really
clear
that
it's
City
Planning
Trotta
water,
office
of
environment,
energy
and
urban
forestry,
because
that's
there
and
the
city,
the
deputy,
am
sorry.
The
general
manager
of
transportation
would
understand
that
I
think
this.
B
We
have
been
grappling
with
the
issue
around
elector
electoral
electric
vehicles
for
a
while
and
I
share
councillor
Bradford's
frustration
that
we
plan
to
have
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
on
the
street
and
there
aren't
any
in
permit
parking
areas.
I,
don't
think.
That's
the
city
I
happen
to
believe
that
it's
Toronto
Hydro.
B
That
is
having
a
difficult
time
in
managing
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
and
just
as
we
have
dedicated
spaces
for
people
that
have
need
accessible
places,
there
will
be
dedicated
spaces
for
people
that
have
electric
vehicles,
including,
and
unfortunately
this
started,
but
last
term
at
least
three
or
four
years
ago.
So
I
do
not
understand
why
this
is
taking
so
long,
and
that
is
why
that
motion
I,
move
that
Thank
You
councillor
Martin
Lowe,
for
referring
to
that
it
council
to
say
get
a
move
on
with
this.
B
Where
is
the
road
block,
and
if
the
city
manager
needs
to
get
involved
in
order
to
make
sure
that
people
that
have
electric
vehicles
can
charge
them?
If
they
don't
have
a
place
to
park
on
their
front
yard,
then
I
think
he
should
get
involved
or
we
need
to
find
out
what's
going
on
it
onto
a
Toronto
Hydro
that
they
can't
move
more
quickly
on
this
and
many
other
files
that
councillors
are
quite
frustrated
about
when
I
was
first
elected.
B
There
was
a
moratorium
in
this
Ward
and
I've
maintained
that
moratorium,
a
moratorium
that
was
asked
for
by
the
residents
because
of
the
street
that
simply
was
all
paved
every
front
yard
on
with
row
near
Logan
was
paved.
The
community
said
that
is
not
how
we
want
our
streets
to
look
and
there
are
streets
in
this
city.
That
is
what
they're
like
they
are
just
paved
on
every
lawn,
and
that
has
been
an
issue.
Even
urban
forests,
not
urban
forestry,
but
urban
design.
B
City
Planning
have
flagged
that
in
the
last
time
we
looked
at
this
and
said,
just
as
they
do
in
a
major
planning
report,
they
tell
us
what
we
can
do
on
a
Main
Street,
what
it
should
look
like
what
the
setback
should
look
like
they
have
weighed
in
and
said.
This
is
not
what
a
neighborhood
should
look
like.
It
should
not
be
covered
with
cars
on
everybody's
front
lawn.
That's
not
a
neighborhood!
That's
what
I
recall
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
if
they've
changed
their
opinion,
if
they
have
I'd
like
to
have
them
here.
B
So
when
we
debate
this
I'd
like
to
have
every
single
division
here,
so
the
questions
that
we
have
can
be
answered.
This
is
not
the
easy
thing
to
do,
because
some
of
us
believe
that
the
wet
weather
flow
master
plan
that
we
worked
on
for
years
and
years
and
years
that
this
is
part
of
wet
weather
flow.
We
believe
this
is
part
of
urban
design.
B
I
certainly
have
great
sympathy
with
getting
v's
somehow
plugged
in
and
I
hope
from
today
that
we
will
ask
Toronto,
Hydro
and
I
did
not
move
that
motion,
but
I,
don't
know
what
the
holdup
is.
I
can't
figure
out
what
the
holdup
is.
We
have
places
that
are
dedicated
that
were
laid
out
where
certain
streets
have
certain
places
where
those
are
to
be
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
on
a
city
street
and
we've
been
unable
to
make
that
happen.
It's
not
the
city
that
has
been
unable
to
me
that
happened
so
I
see
mr.
B
Baxter's
here
and
perhaps
after
I
will
be
as
he's
here,
I'm
gonna
ask
that
question.
If
you've
been
here
earlier,
I
would
have
asked
you,
because
it's
so
frustrating
it's
frustrating
for
everybody.
We
announced
this
pilot
with
great
fanfare.
There
hasn't
been
one
somewhere
up
the
street,
that's
getting
caught
and
it's
not
fair
to
residents.
It's
not
fair
to
those
who
are
buying
V's
and
it's
not
fair
to
those
who
are
in
limbo
because
we
have
moratoriums
and
we
can't
get
anything
on
the
street.
B
C
I've
been
having
discussions
like
about
this
issue
with
councillor
Bradford
since
I
think
his
first
week
on
council
and
in
the
desire
to
address
some
of
the
issues
that
were
facing
with
with
with
with
parking
pads
in
the
City
of
Toronto
and
in
particular,
I
appreciate
the
position
that
councillor
Bradford's,
put
in
by
the
changes
in
the
ward
boundaries
that
have
one
half
of
his
neighbourhood,
able
and
and
councillor
bylaw
as
well
one
half
of
the
neighbourhood
subject
to
one
set
of
rules
and
one
half
to
the
other.
Fortunately
I'm.
C
Not
in
that
position,
no
one
could
get
a
parking
pad
or
appeal
in
Ward
11.
But
the
this
notion
of
harmonizing
I
think
is
is
is
very
important
to
the
councillor.
The
first
four
recommendations,
councillor
Bradford's
motion
and
that's
what
I
want
to
make
sure
comes
back,
because
if
we
don't
and
we
just
kick
the
can
down
the
road
we're
doing
all
of
us
a
disservice,
because
we
will
some
some
city
councilors.
C
Some
councillors
gonna
have
to
resolve
this
problem
and
given
what
councillor
Bradford
knows
about
how
contentious
parking
pads
are
in
this
committee,
I
commend
him
for
for
bringing
forward
a
pathway
to
that
solution.
I
would
have
preferred,
and
this
is
why
I'll
support
the
the
the
referral
it
to
come
by
way
of
a
motion
of
staff,
whether
it's
a
request
for
a
motion
from
staff
or
otherwise.
C
It
would
just
have
been
my
preferred
pathway
to
to
get
a
resolution
in
front
of
us
here
at
Council,
partly
just
so
there's
something
I
can
point
at
to
tell
people.
This
is
why
we
made
this
decision,
because
staff
are
recommending
this
course
of
action
or
staff
evaluated,
and
that's
why
it's
here,
which
which
may
may
indicate
where
my
my
vote
will
land
when
that
part
of
the
motion
comes
back.
The
second
part
on
on
on
EVs
I
also
think
it's
it's
it's
an
innovation
question.
C
C
Thank
you
and
it's.
But
it's
not
what
we've
all
been
discussing
for
the
last
couple
years
about
vehicles
resting
on
them
in
compaction.
That's
not
really
not
what
they
look
at.
It's
small
bits
of
particulate
matter
that
get
on
top
and
clog
the
small
pores,
and
so
they
all
they're
treated
differently.
But
within
a
couple
of
years
you
can
lose
two-thirds
to
to
90
percent
of
the
permeability
in
just
in
a
couple
years.
C
I'd
put
it
up
on
the
screen,
but
what
I
found
interesting
is
the
one
that
performed
the
baths
best
and
could
be
cleaned
easiest.
You
have
to
use
a
vacuum,
so
we're
gonna
have
all
these
parking
pads
and
our
are
our
driveways
and
every
couple
years
you
know
have
someone
come
with
a
big
vacuum:
unplug
the
car
plug
in
the
vacuum
and
and
just
start
vacuuming
out
the
particular
matter.
But
that's
like
we
have
no
way
of
evaluating
what
and
if
those
parking
pads,
but
more
importantly,
driveways,
are
actually
still
permeable
and
I.
A
A
Okay,
so
I,
as
you
know,
with
the
procedures,
we
take
a
referral
motion
first,
so
all
those
in
favor
of
the
referral
sure
counselor
Cressy,
counselor,
Fletcher,
counselor,
perks,
counselor
Wong,
Tam,
counselor
Leighton.
Those
opposed
to
the
referral
counselor
Bradford
counselor
by
Lau
counselor
Matt
law
that
carries
okay.
A
G
A
A
Questions
the
mover
anyone
else
to
speak.
I'm
gonna
have
to
ask
all
your
staff
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item
te
10.5
to
alcohol
and
Gaming
Commission
of
Ontario
liquor
license
application
2:5
for
Lansdowne
Avenue,
basement
councilor
by
law
approve
the
recommendations
in
the
letter.
Okay,
anyone
else
to
speak.
No,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carried
item
te
10.53
installation
of
speed,
humps
on
Joe
Shuster
way
between
King
Street
West
on
and
Dufferin
Street
councillor.
B
A
A
D
D
D
It's
me
councillor
Cressy,
so
I
will
move
the
recommendations
in
my
letter
and
can
I
just
say
very
briefly,
so
this
is
Victoria
Moro
square,
east-west
precinct,
King,
Spadina,
heavily
over-utilized
Park.
Our
recommendation.
The
letter
here
is
to
look
at
taking
over
part
of
the
surplus
right-of-way
currently
used
for
parking
parked
cars
to
expand
the
park.
That's
what
we're
working
towards.
D
Taking
over
the
right-of-way
currently
used
for
parking
cars
to
expand
the
park
line
to
include
that
that's
the
recommendation
where
you
could
put
a
natural
gas
feature,
there's
all
kinds
of
foreign
natural
gas
feature.
I,
know
I,
think
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
the
report
back,
because
I
think
this
would
be
a
great,
innovative
and
cost-effective
way
to
expand
much
new
parkland
in
a
dense
core.
Okay.
A
So
I
need
a
recorded
vote
on
this
one
councillor
Cressy
councillor,
bylaw
councillor,
Fletcher,
councillor,
perks,
councillor
Matt
Lowe.
If
someone
could
inform
councillor
wong-tam
that
she
can
rejoin
us
item,
T
ten
point:
five:
six
strengthening
stormwater
requirements
for
parking,
pads
and
driveways
to
enhance
resilience.
I
still
have
the
item:
councillor
Matt
Lowe,
oh
you're,
getting
you're
getting
councillor,
one
cam,
yeah;
okay,
it's
a
letter
from
councillor
Leighton.
It's
a
rates
or
report.
A
G
G
A
A
G
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
for
the
extra
time
to
work
on
this
particular
motion,
which
is
directing
staff
to
us
to
elevate
the
priority
of
the
signal
installation
at
power,
Street
and
Adelaide
Street
East
and
Richmond
Street
East,
to
do
that
as
soon
as
possible,
either
by
negotiating
with
the
relevant
developer.
Who
originally
had
the
task
of
doing
so
and
to
see
if
we
can
speed
that
up
with
with
him
or
I
will
be
happy
to
release
some
in
section
37
funding
to
advance
the
signal.
Insulation,
ok,.