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From YouTube: OpenActive W3C Community Call / 2020-04-08
Description
Virtual Events - Tidy Up
* Refining earlier proposal
- Guidance for virtual and on-demand events
- Maximum virtual attendee capacity and remaining virtual attendee capacity
* New
- Donation payment URL
A
I
guess
to
next
as
long
as
we're
all
sharing
this
so
yeah.
The
agenda,
as
I
said
before,
being
cut
off
a
couple
of
times
is
just
I
think,
refining
virtual
events,
perhaps
not
so
much
tidying
up
as
just
getting
them
nailed
down
a
little
bit
more
clearly
with
a
bit
of
experience
under
the
hood.
A
There's
the
question,
I
think,
still
of
guidance
for
virtual
and
on-demand
events,
and
when
I
say
guidance,
I
mean
what
should
be
recommended,
what
should
be
required,
what
optional
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
the
question
of
maximum
virtual
attendee
capacity
and
remaining
virtual
attendee
capacity.
I
believe
we
resolved
that
last
call.
I
was
again
cut
off
at
the
end
of
it,
but
my
understanding
is
that
that
was
resolved,
but
actually
further
reflection
over
the
course
of
the
week
subsequent
led
to
a
reversion
to
the
earlier
proposal.
A
So
let's
just
re-examine
that
and
make
sure
we're
all.
On
the
same
page,
there
there's
a
new
proposal
which
is
donation
payment,
url,
reflecting
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
classes
in
the
sector
are
no
longer
charging
but
still
request
donations
from
participants
in
order
to
keep
themselves
financially
viable.
A
The
other
one
which
was
a
late
addition
as
of
last
night,
is
the
question
of
minimal
requirements
for
things
such
as
training,
insurance
and
music.
Licensing
also
came
up
in
the
last
two
weeks,
and
we
should
address
that
over
the
course
of
the
call
if
we
can
as
well
so
there's
the
introduction
nick.
If
you
could
move
us
on
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
A
So,
yes,
the
question
is
which
fields
are
required
recommended
or
optional
for
virtual
events
and
streaming
events
and
recorded
events?
I
don't
think
we
really
attained
a
resolution
of
this
last
time.
I
think
that
was
left
up
in
the
air.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that
the
reason
for
this
agenda
point
is
most
likely
because
of
the
the
additional
comments
on
this
on
this
particular
thread.
That
issue
comment
there,
so
I'll
just
bring
that
up
here.
Basically,
the
there's
a
there's,
an
additional
organizer
id,
which
is
now
been
moved
to
required.
B
Gender
restriction
was
also
accidentally
emitted,
and
so
I
think
those
two
things
further
to
what
we
discussed
before,
which
kind
of
go
back
up
here
and
show
you
that
that's
just
that
gender
restriction
is
in
recommended
that
organizer
there
is,
is
been
required
with
the
id
of
the
organizer.
C
C
B
Right,
that's
a
really
good
point.
So
the
rational
rationale
behind
this
was
the
ability
for
those
organizations
that
have
got
requirements
to
have
some
kind
of
approval
process
where
they
approve
certain
content
and
not
other
content,
and
that
approval
in
the
safeguarding
stuff
is
through
the
id
matching
of
the
id.
B
So
the
idea
is
that
I
specifically
come
from
sport
england.
So
whether
this
stays
as
required
is
a
good
question.
Maybe
it
just
drops
to
be
recommended,
but
certainly
the
idea
with
it
being
expedited
to
required
for
the
sport.
England
requirement
was,
if
everything
has
an
id,
then
if
you're
happy
with
sorry,
if
municipal
england
campaign,
for
example,
but
others
obviously
would
be
able
to
do
the
same-
that
there's
a
particular
organizer
that
has
produced
content.
B
That
looks
like
it's
of
reasonable
quality
that
you
can
approve
that
organizer
and
all
of
their
content,
which
you
won't
be
able
to
do
if
there's
not
a
unique
id
for
the
organizer.
B
So
an
organizer
means
the
organizer
within
the
system,
rather
than
I
guess,
the
originator
of
the
content.
So,
for
example,
in
playways.
C
Yeah,
it's
an
interesting
one
actually,
because
we
we've
been
scratching
our
heads
around
the
safeguarding
subject
recently.
A
I
mean
I
think,
given
that
the
safeguarding
proposal
is
only
at
the
level
of
a
proposal
and
is
not
going
to
be
entering
the
specification
anytime
soon.
I
wonder
if
it's
premature
to
make
that
required
at
this
point.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
I
don't
want
to
get
into.
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
safeguarding
proposal
too
much,
but
I
think
given
yeah
that
it's
still
a
proposal,
I'm
not
too
sure
that
mechanism
is
necessarily
going
to
be
that
workable,
even
if
it
goes
into
the
standard,
there's
still
a
sort
of
infrastructure
that
has
to
be
created.
A
So
I
think,
for
immediate
purposes.
I'd
say:
let's
just
keep
it
as
as
a
recommendation
rather
than
a
requirement.
Obviously
it's
a
pain
if
we
then
bump
it
up
to
required
subsequently,
but
then
we
can
issue
guidance
about
how
to
derive
identifiers
in
cases
where
we
don't
have
them
yeah.
I
think
we
can
we
can.
I
think
we
can
kick
that,
can
down
the
road
a
little
bit
there.
B
Yeah
sure,
maybe
we'll
maybe
we
put
in
recommended
with
a
note
saying
that
certain
organizations
such
as
sport,
england,
will
require
this,
but
it's
not
in
the
spec.
That's
required.
Yeah
sounds
good.
B
Well,
it
was
just
yeah,
it
was
just.
It
was
simply
just
the
last
video
call
we
had
we
had
the
list
here
and
it
just
wasn't
in
there
yeah.
So
so
so
the
reason
it's
there
is
just
simply
because,
as
it
says
somewhere
further
up
that
these
have
all
come
from
the
existing
modeling
specification,
so
the
existing
model
specification
has
that
so
we're
just
inheriting
the
required
status
of
it
sorry
recommended
status
of
it.
A
Okay,
so
I
guess,
unless
anybody
has
any
strong
resistance
to
that,
that's
really
just
an
administrative
amendment.
Yeah,
that's
right!
Okay,
great!
Let's
carry
on
then
to
the
next
proposal.
B
A
So,
are
you
still
screen
sharing?
Oh,
can
you
not
see
that
I
can
see
it?
Okay,
yeah!
I
can
see
it
now,
yeah
virtual
attendee
capacity,
okay,
so
this
went
round
the
house's
last
call
right
and
I
think
it
ended
up
being
actually
on
the
was
it
the
virtual
location.
It
ended
up
getting
attached
to
yeah
yeah.
A
And
I
think
we
reverted
to
the
original
proposal,
which
was
just
to
treat
it
as
analogous
to
attendee
capacity
and
maximum
attendee
capacity.
A
I
guess
the
question
is
actually.
This
is
one.
This
is
a
useful
question
for
people
who
are
already
implementing.
Is
this
being
represented
in
your
data
feeds
already
and
if
so,
how.
D
I'm
sorry,
I
just
got
pain
and
I
wasn't
paying
attention
for
a
second.
A
So
yeah,
so
the
the
original
proposal
two
weeks
ago
was
to
have
maximum
virtual
attendee
capacity
and
remaining
virtual
activity
capacity
for
for
virtual
events,
which
makes
sense
in
a
way
because
we
already
have
attendee
capacity
at
maximum
attending
capacity
and
remaining
activity
capacity
for
physical
location
events,
and
then
the
two
are
just
analogous
to
each
other.
A
A
However,
we
had
some
tooling
properties
with
that,
because
of
the
way
that
that
ends
up
getting
nested,
and
it
also
doesn't
play
very
nicely
with
this
way.
Schema.Org
looks
at
these
things,
so
I
think
we
sort
of
looped
back
to
the
original
position,
which
was
these
are
just
properties
of
the
event,
but
because
they're
labeled
virtual,
it's
clear
that
it
refers
to
the
virtual
location
rather
than
to
the
physical
location,
which
is
more
consistent
with
the
way
schema.org
does
things.
A
D
Right
for
us,
we
aren't
really
using
it
so
much
it's
it's
rarer
that
a
virtual
capacity
is
set
certainly
than
a
physical
one,
but
they
also
only
have
one
there's
only
one
virtual
location,
so
it
doesn't
matter
where
the
virtual
capacity
is.
E
We
haven't
really
seen
it
in
anyone's
feeds,
yet
so
we
haven't
had
any
chance
to
use
it,
and
I
don't
know
on
the
broker
side,
if
anyone's
sort
of
experienced
enough
to
inquire
about
it.
I
guess
it
depends
on
the
instructors.
If
we
have
no
instructors
that
are
really
using
playways
or
other
systems
that
have
the
need
for
to
limit
virtual
capacity,
then
we
might,
we
just
haven't
come
across
those
instructors,
yet
I
guess
right.
A
Okay,
so
at
the
moment
this
is
kind
of
this
is
kind
of
an
academic
point.
Then
at
the
moment,
so
nick.
What's
the
exact
nature
of
the
tooling
difficulty
here.
B
So
the
problem
is
that
the
the
the
virtual
location
is
it's
in
a
beta
property,
which
we've
called
was
it
beta
virtual
location,
I
think
and
then
and
then,
because
the
virtual
location's
in
a
beta
property?
What
that
means
is
that
if
we
were
going
to
put
maximum
attendee
capacity
on
virtual
location,
that
becomes
a
nested
beta
property
within
a
visa
property
right,
which
is
yeah,
creates
some
bizarre
interactions
with
various
tools
yeah,
I
guess
in
theory
it
should
work.
B
But
it's
just
like
an
extra
level
of.
I
guess
something
that
no
one
thought
about
being
a
thing.
So
there's
there's
that's
one
of
the
angles
and
the
other
angle
is
that
there's
a
it,
creates
a
dependency
between
implementation
of
one
implementation
of
the
other
right:
okay,
yeah,
because
they're
quite
different.
Actually
the
virtual
location
is
a
url
that
you're
kind
of
saying.
This
is
where
you
can
access
the
thing
which,
if
you've
got
a
paywall
in
place,
you
might
not
be
supplying
because
it's
it's
private.
B
You
need
to
get
go
through
the
booking
process
and
you
get
that
at
the
other
end,
whereas
the
maximum
virtual
attendee
capacity
is
actually
a
property,
you
would
be
using
for
filtering.
For
example,
I'm
looking
for
classes
where
there's
about
10
15
people
rather
than
100
200
people,
so
I
might
be
looking
for
small
classes,
in
which
case
you
can
filter
on
that
those
two
properties.
So
the
the
current
the
discussion
last
time
was
concluded
with.
B
We
don't
want
to
implement
remaining
attendee
capacity
because
that's
really
complicated
and
unnecessarily
confusing,
because
we've
already
got
mechanisms
around
sorry
remaining
virtual
attendee
capacity.
We
don't
want
to
implement
because
we've
already
got
mechanisms
around
remaining
attendee
capacity.
So
let's
not
try
and
confuse
it
by
adding
an
extra
property.
Maximum
might
be
useful
because
of
the
filtering
thing,
because
that's
that's
what
that's
for
so
potentially
that's
where
we,
we
would
add
it
so
that
we
could
at
least
do
filtering,
and
so
that
was
the
intention.
B
But
then
we
kind
of
said
well,
if
we're
gonna
put
it
in
we'll
just
put
it
in,
but
only
for
that
and
not
make
it
kind
of
tie
into
the
booking
spec
or
anything
else
that
we
might
want
to
try
and
connect
together,
because
it's
really
just
for
filtering.
B
So
at
which
point
we're
kind
of
at
the
point
where
we
might
as
well
just
use
schema
because
it's
there
we
may
choose
not
to
really
make
use
of
that
in
the
booking
spec
later
on
or
give
it
any
special
meaning
in
terms
of
how
it
connects
to
other
properties
that
we've
defined,
but
but
yeah.
It's,
and
also
that,
if
we,
if
we
put
in
the
beta
name
space,
it
would
duplicate
schema,
which
is
not
something.
We've
we've
right.
A
B
A
Okay,
I
mean,
I
think,
given
that
it
doesn't
look
like
we're
breaking
anything
certainly
doesn't
look
like
there's
been
a
rush
to
implement
based
on
the
discussion
last
two
weeks
ago
and
given
the
complexity,
and
I
think,
also
just
given
frankly,
the
kind
of
unpredictable
messiness
of
moving
these
two
into
a
location.
A
When
I
think,
if
you
were
approaching
it
from
a
scheme
at
an
org
perspective,
you'd
clearly
expect
it
to
be
on
event.
I
think
probably
we
should
resolve
the
issue
as
it
stands
right
now,
with
the
updated
proposal
that
you
made
13
days
ago,
yeah.
A
A
I
think
this
one
is
is
quite
a
simple
one,
and
this
is
simply
because
so
many
people
are
now
soliciting
donations
rather
than
strictly
speaking,
charging
for
participation.
In
an
event,
it's
obviously
helpful
to
be
able
to
point
people
to
the
service,
such
as
paypal
or
whatever,
that
you're
using
to
get
those
donations.
A
So
this
is
a
very
simple
proposal
to
add
donation,
payment,
url,
the
value
of
which
would
be
a
url,
and
that
would
just
take
you
to
the
location
where
you
could.
You
could
donate
to
the
organization
or
the
instructor
in
question.
A
C
So
with
the
idea
there
be,
then
that
on
a
you
know,
on
an
open
day
to
find
I
find
a
session
and
in
the
details
of
that
session
there
would
be
a
url
for
me
to
click
and
go
through
and
make
a
payment
a
donation
yeah,
that's
how
it
would
work.
B
C
Just
seems
to
think
of
the
the
sort
of
the
user
flow
there,
because
what
I'm
probably
going
to
do
is
is
find
the
session.
I'm
then
going
to
to
book
onto
the
session,
and
then
I
may
probably
only
decide
to
make
a
donation
after
I've
attended
the
session
by
which
time,
if
it's
in
the
finder
it
may
well
have
dropped
off,
because
we're
not
showing
sessions
that
are
in
the
past.
C
I
mean
it's
probably
the
way
that
playways
would
do.
It
would
be
to
have
a
you
know,
an
option
to
say
you
know,
make
an
optional
payment,
because
in
our
booking
flow
from
somebody
you
know
booking
on
to
a
physical
or
virtual
session.
They
go
through
a
a
booking
process
that
if
we
were
to
implement
a
donation
payment
option
alongside
our
standard
payment
option,
what
would
be
more
useful
to
us
there
would
be
a
boolean
as
well
as
url.
B
C
E
C
C
C
Yeah,
I
I'm
just
I
could
say
you
know,
I'm
not
suggesting
replace
donation
payment
url
with
a
boolean,
I'm
suggesting
that
a
boolean
would
also
be
useful
so
that
you
could
incorporate
donation
payments
into
a
booking
flow,
rather
than
do
it
through
a
url,
because
if
you
put
a
url
into
a
booking
flow
and
somebody
clicks
on
it,
you're
sort
of
taking
them
away
from
that
booking
flow
as
well.
B
That's
a
really
good
point.
I
guess
yeah,
that's
true
this.
The
the
intention
with
this
was
was
more
around
the
free
sessions
which
don't
have
a
booking
flow,
whether
it's
kind
of
already
on
whatever,
because.
C
We
we
have
three
types
of
of
well
four,
really
types
of
sessions,
we're
on
demand
and
we
have
live
streaming
non-bookable.
We
have
live
streaming
bookable
and
we
have
live
streaming,
bookable
and
playable.
C
So
this
would
sort
of
add
a
fifth
one
live
streaming.
Bookable
and
donatable.
B
Yeah
well
yeah,
that's
interesting!
Well
so
I
mean
to
bring
in
another
example
actually
but
book
when
similar
to
what
you're
suggesting
there
we
have
a
donate
as
part
of
the
booking
process.
You
can
kind
of
go
in
and
and
do
that
as.
B
Thing
or
or
even
not,
I
mean
because
if
you,
if
it's
a
donate
and
it's
a
free
session,
then
you're
getting
the
access
to
the
session
before
you
necessarily
go
through
a
booking
flow
anyway,
and
so
then
you're
yeah.
So
then
I
guess
the
url
becomes
the
book
when
url,
which
is
the
way
of
getting
to
the
the
donation
flow
yeah.
C
Is
structured
it
because
we
have
a
sort
of
top-up
capability
in
in
a
payment
system
that
this
would
actually
be
really
nice
and
neat
and
easy
for
us
to
do
by
just
saying
while
you're
booking
it.
You
know
this
is
free,
but
if
you'd
like
to
make
a
couple
of
quid
donation,
please
put
two
in
the
box
and
press
pay.
That
would
be
quite
easy
for
us
to
do.
It'd
be
quite
neat.
C
A
neat
way
of
doing
it,
but
for
all
we
need
to
know
is:
is
this
something
that
you
want
to
take
ask
for
donations,
for
that
would
be
a
boolean.
B
Yeah
boolean
makes
sense.
So
if
you've
got,
if
you
had
a
boolean,
then
I
guess
you
would.
That
would
allow
you
to
display
also
in
the
finder
that
donations
are
yeah,
because
I
guess
that's
the
the
interesting
information
is
less.
I
guess
in
the
finder
stages
less
what
way
you
go
to
make
the
donation
and
more
that
actually
that
you
can
yeah-
and
I
suppose,
if
that
is
a
clickable
button,
where
it
says
donations
accepted,
is,
is
when
it
would
be
a
url.
C
C
Yeah,
I
can
see
donation
payment
url.
It
may
be
also
more
applicable
for
on-demand,
which
clearly
doesn't
have
a
a
booking
process.
But
you
know
if
I'm
watching
joe
wicks
every
week-
and
you
know
he
puts
a
donate
button
on
his
session-
I
might
choose
to
donate.
I
know
for
that.
I'd
use
the
url,
so
I
think
the
url
is
absolutely
relevant,
but
it
would
also
help.
A
A
I
think
I
think
that
makes
that
make
sense
that
would
also
accommodate
a
wider
variety
help.
People
out,
I
think
the
only
other
question
I
had
with
this
property
was,
I
suppose
you
do
want
to
know
under
some
circumstances,
what
the
payment
service
actually
is
like,
whether
it's
apple
pay
or
whether
it's
paypal.
I
guess
you
can
get
that
information
just
by
parsing
the
url,
but
it
seemed
a
little
messy.
B
That's
interesting
yeah
so
schema
does
this
in
other
places
and
it's
the
approach
that
that
seems
to
make
sense
for
virtual
location
as
well
in
terms
of
the
service,
so,
for
example,
the
same
ass
property
and
schema
which
is
used
for
social
media
handles
so
it
doesn't.
B
It
just
has
a
list
of
it's
literally
an
array
of
urls,
and
you
put
your
facebook
and
your
twitter
and
your
whatever
handle's
in
there
and
obviously
then
you're
just
expected
as
a
consumer
to
parse
facebook's
url
and
go
that's
probably
facebook,
and
then
you
don't
need
to
maintain
a
separate
kind
of
list
somewhere
of
all
of
the
potential
standard
names
for
each
of
the
services,
which
I
guess
you
would
need
to
do.
Otherwise.
So
you
you
just
then
end
up
with
a
yeah.
You
just
end
up
with
it
being
in
url.
B
A
B
What
I
want,
I
guess,
what
I'm
wondering
from
a
practical
perspective
is:
if
you've
got
some
known
services.
You
might
have
that
designed
into
your
experience
like
if
you
want
to
put
a
paypal
color,
you
know
like
graphic
on
the
paypal
link.
You
might
want
to
say
donate
with
paypal.
If
it's
an
unknown
and
random
service,
then
maybe
the
benefit
of
having
the
name.
Isn't
I
mean
it's
just
a
it's
just
a
donate
url.
A
Okay,
yeah:
let's
let's
leave
it
as
is
then
I
think
that's
right.
I
also
think
it's
a
probably
an
edge
case.
Most
people
are
going
to
be
on
one
of
the
what
two
or
three
big
platforms
for
this
kind
of
thing.
Okay,
so,
let's
add
a
donation
payment
available.
A
Yeah,
which
I
do
it
for
a
bit
but
yeah,
it
seems
more
correct
to
have
to
have
your
organization
doing
it.
Thank
you,
okay.
I
guess
let's
carry
on
to
the
next
point,
which
I
think
is
probably
the
most
complicated,
unfortunately
of
them.
This
emerged,
I
think,
fairly
recently
over
the
course
of
the
last
week,
which
is
there
are
certain
legal
and
commercial
requirements
that
sometimes
need
to
be
met,
and
it
would
be
good
to
be
able
to
indicate
that
these
conditions
have
been
met
in
the
data
itself.
A
The
three
use
cases
that
have
come
up
have
been
music
licensing,
so
this
is
mostly
relevant
to
streaming
services
where
music,
that's
copyrighted,
I
think
zumba
is
the
case
in
is
the
most
frequent
case
in
point
here.
Obviously,
if
you're
licensed
to
play
within
a
particular
physical
location,
that's
not
a
problem,
but
once
you
start
streaming
it
out,
of
course,
you're
sharing
it
with
a
dog
plus
world
questions
of
insurance
and
questions
of
instructor
qualifications.
A
I
think
the
original
proposal
that
was
just
kind
of
roughed
out
in
the
open
act
of
slack
was
to
have
a
boolean
kind
of
saying.
Various
qualifications
have
been
met,
but
then
further
discussions
seem
to
tease
those
out
into
three
separate
concerns
that
were
just
listed.
A
So
while
it
would
be
possible
to
have
one
blanket
kind
of
t's
and
c's
checkbox,
it
might
be
useful
to
make
it
more
fine-drained.
All
of
about
15
minutes.
Before
this
call,
I
wrote
up
a
new
issue
to
address
this,
so
my
proposal
has
actually
been
to
have
a
generic
kind
of
property
called
something
like
minimal
requirement,
which
would
have
a
name,
a
url
which
would
be
pointing
to
a
description
of
the
requirement
and
how
it's
met
by
the
organization
and
then
a
boolean
field
indicating
whether
it's
met
or
not.
A
C
First
thing,
I'd
point
out
is
that
having
a
music
license
is
not
a
just
a
yes
or
no,
because
your
video
may
not
have
music
in
it.
So
you,
you
know
there
is
not
required
right
on
music.
I
I
yeah,
I
mean
the
the
idea
of
someone
so
so
in
play
ways
you
know,
as
someone
creates
a
session
they
fill
out.
You
know
plenty
of
data
already,
and
that
is
is
growing
the
more
you
know
open
data
requirements
that
we
put
into
playways.
C
This
is
it
feels
like
it's
relatively
onerous
for
for
users
to
if
they,
if
they
have
to
put
in
a
url
to
their
their
six-year-old
license
instructor
license
or
write
a
description
writing
a
description.
I
mean,
I
just
wonder
how
how
that's
going
to
be
used.
F
F
Of
the
people
who
they
might
want
to
showcase
on
their
website,
and
I
think
they
were
speaking
to
sims
bar
and
emd
around.
What
is
that
kind
of
minimum
requirement?
And
it
was
those
kind
of
things
of
insurance,
licensing
and
yeah.
Basically,
they
wanted
a
way
for
the
systems
to
be
able
to
whether
it's
just
someone
self-certifying
that
they've
got
those
in
place
or
because
I
mean
we
said
that
well
and
then
we'll
have
the
capacity
we
don't
want
to
be.
C
Yeah,
that's
that's
that's
right.
I
mean
when
I
first
saw
this,
I
I
admitted
it
as
being
you
know,
I
I
declare
that
I
have
the
requisite
insurance.
So
I,
if
I'm
playing
music,
I
have
the
requisite
license
and
I
have
the
requisite
training
and
that's
an
easy,
structured
piece
of
data
to
to
filter
out
those
that
say
no
to
any
of
those.
C
C
It
sort
of
created
more
onerous
input
for
people
and
also
I
just
I
can't
see
how
how
that
piece
of
data
that
extra
piece
of
data
would
be
could
be
used,
because
if
they
don't
have
the
capacity
to
go
through
and
actually
check
those
urls
all
the
host
licenses,
then
it's
sort
of
creating
more
input.
That
is
not
really
going
to
add
any
value
to
anything.
G
A
So
you
are
so.
Is
this
just
a
question
of
guidance?
Do
you
think
so
I
mean
I
think,
generally
speaking,
the
field
as
a
whole
would
be
optional.
Simply
because,
as
you
say,
sometimes
you
know
credentials
aren't
relevant,
in
which
case
just
don't
supply
them.
Is
it
a
question
of
maybe
making
name
and
boolean
required,
because
otherwise
it
really
is
kind
of
meaningless
and
url
optional,
or
do
you
think
url
is
just
entirely
redundant.
C
B
B
If
you
said
I
mean
so
so,
playways
asks
the
question:
if
it's
a
tick
box,
which
literally
says
have
you
got
blah
blah
blah
blah
whatever
the
blar
is,
that
question
is
a
defined
question
that
someone
has
just
decided
is
the
right
legal
wording
or
whatever
it
is
that
legal
wording
has
a
url,
so
actually
what
you're
doing
is
saying
that
as
a
booking
system?
I
put
this
statement
in
a
bit
like
when
you
reference
the
creative
commons
license.
You
know
you
reference
the
license
and
say
someone's
accepted
this
license.
B
This
is
the
url
of
the
license.
So
the
reason
that
you
put
the
url
in
the
data
is
actually
not
for
the
user
to
see
the
url
or
anything
to
do
with
that.
It
would
be
to
as
a
way
of
just
having
a
easy
machine,
readable
definition
of
the
words
that
the
words
which
are
then
in
the
user
interface,
and
maybe
those
maybe
the
the
url
itself
or
the
resolves
to
some
more
details.
B
So,
for
example,
if
the
url
says
I
agree
that
I've
got
music,
license
more
details
here
and
click
that,
and
you
go
to
the
url,
which
is
the
same
url,
and
that
takes
you
to
the
emd
guidance
which
has
got
you
know
a
page
of
stuff,
but
you've
still
agreed
generally
to
the
emd
page
and
the
specific
summary
that's
defined
there
and
then
so
you're
literally
then.
If
that's
the
case,
you're
literally
saying
then
url
tick
and
you
don't
have
any
other
free
text
in
there.
F
I've
just
gone
back
to
what
francis
from
sport
england
said
originally,
which
was,
do
you
think
simspur
and
emd
are
doing
a
a
web
page
which
will
have
guidance
around
all
areas
related
to
insurance,
licensing,
requisite
qualifications,
and
she
said
what
is
the
way
that
your
you
could
basically
get
assurance
from
your
instructors
providers
via
a
tick
box
or
similar
that
they've
adhered
to
these
requirements,
so
that
I
mean
that
sounds
like
it's
almost
putting
those
three
things
together,
and
it
is
just
that
one
there
will
be
one
web
page,
which
is
if
the
person
says.
C
C
I
can
see
that
that
works
where
it's
a
you
know,
a
single
provider
source
such
as
emd,
but
on
play
ways.
C
It's
a
case
that
you
know
there's
a
a
wide
diversity
of
of
instructors,
adding
content
for
a
wide
diversity
of
virtual
sessions,
and
so,
whereas
one
sort
of
requisite
license
may
be
relevant
in
one
instance,
may
be
completely
irrelevant
in
another.
E
I
think
I
think,
in
this
case,
there's
an
especially
heightened
bar
to
get
over
for
brokers
to
show
the
data,
because
there's
there's
just
more
scope
for
accidents
to
happen
for
people
who
aren't
because
anyone
can
publish
any
session
basically
on
youtube,
well,
facebook
live
and
that
anyone
can
log
into
those.
E
If
there's
no
like
physical
sort
of
check
of
people
walking
to
the
class
it
being
a
legit
class
and
someone
then
kind
of
making
sure
that
they
can
see
people
and
they're
not
doing
anything
dangerous,
so
there's
kind
of
a
heightened
bot
around
this
stuff.
So
I
think
there's
there's
like
a
line.
We
can.
We
can
a
circle
we
can
draw
around,
which
is
around
a
particular
type
of
activity
which
fine
might
be
the
emd
type,
but
for
sport,
england,
that's
at
least
the
type
they're
showing
for
now.
E
So
emp
covers
exercise
movement
and
dance.
So
it's
it's
quite
a
broad
range
of
stuff
already
and
as
chris
was
saying,
there's
the
use
case
currently
is:
there's
there's
two
stage
gates
to
get
classes
visible
on
on
the
spotlight
campaign,
which
is
the
feed
that,
like
the
data
feed
source,
so
you
know
play
away
their
open
sessions
or
emd.
E
Do
they
have
like
requisite
stage
gates
in
place
that
they've
done
enough
to
check
that
instructors
are
self-declaring,
they
have
what
they
need
to
have,
and
the
second
is
do
we
think
those
classes
are
of
high
enough
production
value,
which
is
a
bit
more
of
a
subjective
thing.
That's
what
england
will
check
on
their
end,
so
for
for
for
feeds,
like
our
parks,
they're
going
to
kind
of
broadly
approve
the
organizer,
because
it's
just
one
type
of
organizing
with
that
feed.
E
To
begin
with,
I
imagine
there's
going
to
be
more
requirements
that
emerge
as
as
we
go
through
this
campaign,
because
sport,
england,
talking
to
sims
pho
talking
to
emd
and
everyone's
looking
at
each
other,
trying
to
figure
this
out.
So
they've
only
got
one
thing
to
point
out
at
the
moment,
which
is
the
thing
that's
on
the
emd
website.
E
So
I
I
wonder
if
we
need
to
pair
this
down
a
bit
and
transfer
to
what
we
know,
knowing
that
stuff's
going
to
emerge
in
the
future
that
will
potentially
allow
us
to
include
other
types
of
providers
or
have
a
bit
more
granular
detail
of.
What's
actually
required,
you
know
like
urls
and
stuff.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
my
feeling
from
what
you
just
said:
nish
is
actually
that
so
the
proposal
can
kind
of
stand.
Actually,
the
problem
is
that
it's
too
capacious
and
too
onerous,
but
that
actually
those
kinds
of
requirements
might
emerge
over
time
and
if
we
keep
the
guidance
fairly
minimal
in
terms
of
what's
required.
A
That
gives
us
the
paired
down
kind
of
version.
That's
actually
usable
now,
but
keeping
an
optional
url
field
allows
us
to
expand
it
out
to
cover
a
wider
variety
of
use.
Cases.
B
Well,
oh,
I
was
actually
thinking
the
inverse
of
that
funny
funny
enough
classic
that
which
was
the
that.
Maybe
we
just
need
an
array
of
urls
building
on
what
I
I
was
saying
earlier
around
referencing
guidance,
because
ultimately,
if
what
we're
saying
is
that
emd's
got
a
url
right
now
and
that's
the
thing
everyone's
pointing
at
then
really.
What
we're
doing
is
someone's
ticking
a
box
to
say
that
they've,
you
know
they've
self-certified
against
that
url.
Therefore,
that
adds
the
url
to
the
array.
B
If
you
don't
take
the
box,
you
don't
have
it
in
the
array
and
it's
kind
of
then.
Therefore,
we've
really
got
like
a
minimal
amount
of
stuff
that
we've
added
to
the
stack
here
to
to
kind
of
deal
with
what
we
know
and
in
the
future
you
can
add
more
urls
for
different
activity
types
and
obviously
it
will
be
on
the
booking
system
to
present
the
relevant
tick
box.
As
rupert
pointed
out,
it's
going
to
be
the
play
ways.
B
Obviously,
if
you've
got
emd
classes
in
there,
you're
going
to
want
to
present
them
with
the
emd
tick
box.
But
what,
if
you
don't?
What?
If
you
have
all
sorts
of
other
things
in
there
that
aren't
that,
but
then
I
don't
know
if
yeah
yeah,
you
know,
painting
class.
I.
E
Think
I
think
an
array
of
urls
makes
sense.
I
actually
don't
think
there
is
a
url
yet
anyway,
because
the
emd
one
at
the
moment
is
specific,
for
you
agree
to
emds
terms
and
conditions
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
which
wouldn't
be
relevant.
E
If
you
were
kind
of
pointing
at
it
from
playways,
there
might
be
a
generic
one,
that's
created,
and
that's
what
we're
talking
to
some
sponsor
england
about,
but
I
think
having
a
field
there,
that's
optional,
that
allows
for
an
array
gives
us
the
most
flexibility
in
the
future
to
to
to
move
forward
and
and
if
stuff
comes
and
we
can
fit
into
that
structure,
then
that's
great.
But
if
stuff
comes
it
doesn't
then
we
can
have
another
one
of
these
calls
and
figure
it
out.
But
right
right
now
we
don't
know.
A
Okay,
it
seems
like
a
pain
on
the
data
consumer
side
to
be
parsing,
this
an
array
of
urls
or
it
assumes
that
you've
got
a
lot
of
sector
knowledge
about
how
you
parse
those
urls
and
what
they.
A
B
Well,
that's
exactly
the
challenge,
because,
if
it
to
give
that
more
detail
level
of
make
your
own
judgment,
we're
gonna
have
to
define
a
lot
of
what
that
looks
like
yeah.
It
sounds
like
we
really
don't
I
mean
it's.
Even
the
insurance
licensing
training
stuff
that
we've
got
at
the
moment
is
all
very
like
we've.
Just
you
know,
we've
made
that
up.
That's
not
you
know.
We.
G
B
Feel
like
there's
a
there's,
a
whole
process
to
go
through,
whereas
if
we
kind
of
take
it
back
to
back
a
level,
maybe
I
mean.
A
You
know,
that's
fine,
I
think
maybe
I'm
over
influenced
when
I
was
writing
this
I've
just
been
working
on
safeguarding
stuff,
which
is
much
much
more
formalized
and
yeah.
So
I
was
maybe
presupposing
a
more
defined
landscape
than
there
actually
is
okay.
So
let's
take
this
back
then
to
array
of
urls.
That
sounds
like
the
minimum.
Everyone
can
agree
on,
but
yeah
as
nish
says,
with
an
asterisk
beside
it,
for
you
know
further
work
in
the
future.
A
Does
that
sound
like
a
reasonable,
workable
compromise
for
everyone
yep?
It's
me
all
right.
Everyone
else
great!
Thank
you.
So
that
takes
us
to
the
end
of
everything
on
the
agenda.
We've
only
got
seven
minutes
left
on
the
call,
but
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
devote
at
least
part
of
that
to
experiences
people
have
had
implementing
and
what
what
people's
experiences
have
been
working
with
data
providers
and
with
classes
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
C
From
from
our
very
early
experience,
it's
something
I've
discussed
with
nish
just
this
morning.
Actually
it's
around
the
on-demand
piece.
So,
for
example,
we
had
the
active
well-being
society
in
birmingham
go
live
with
the
finder
and
they,
the
most
of
their
content,
is,
is
on
demand
content
simply
because
they
had
a
lot
of
it
and
it's
expedient
for
them
to
get
it
onto
their
finder
and
they
sort
of
we
have
a
toggle
on
the
finder
to
move
between
on
demand
and
and
live
streaming.
C
That
data
is
just
coming
through
our
play
ways:
sort
of
our
sort
of
playways
private,
open
data
feed
so,
and
I
think
charlie,
if
he's
still
on
the
callers,
said
that
there
are
other
clients
that
are,
you
know,
leaning
towards
you
know,
starting
out
with
with
on
demand,
yeah.
G
Let
me
I
can.
I
can
probably
build
on
that.
This
is
this
is
high
level
and
could
probably
change
as
we
hit
hit
a
greater
scale
because
we're
working
with
very
spotlighted
and
spotlighted
occurrences
at
the
moment,
which
might
be
giving
us
a
sort
of
a
slightly
warped
view.
What
what
I
would
say
is
where
we're
seeing
the
activity
provider
or
deliverer
sitting
in
probably
the
emd
space.
If
it's
exercise
movement
and
dance,
I
think
there's
a
far
greater
logic
behind
behind
the
like
behind
a
live
delivery.
G
So
in
that,
in
that
arena
there
is
a
lot
more
live
data
available.
Equally,
a
lot
of
the
providers
in
that
space
are
who
have
already
moved,
are
obviously
the
larger
providers
and
they
probably
won't
at
least
initially
engage
in
the
open
active
piece.
They
won't
sense,
the
benefit
of
it,
but
the
smaller
providers
and
the
individuals,
perhaps
when
you
move
outside
of
that,
so
there's
mentioned
active
well-being.
G
If
we
looked
at
what
look
at
what
the
active
partnership
network
are
doing
and
individual
active
partnerships
and
then
in
the
he
space
with
universities,
they
they
don't
have
quite
the
same
ability
or
instructor
availability
to
to
immediately
create
live
stream
content
and
have
so
their
their
resource.
Bank
of
on
demand
is
greater.
They
can
they
can
rely
on
existing
or
create
new
with
what
they
have.
G
So
there
is
going
to
be
a
wealth
of
great,
initially,
a
wealth,
more
of
of
on-demand
content
in
everywhere
outside
of
that
fitness
space.
But
that
trend
might
change.
That
might
just
be
the
initial
initial
leverage,
because
they've
got
access
to
things
much
more
easily
and
it's
easier
to
share.
A
I'm
thinking
technically
at
this
point
rather
than
you
know,
sector-wide.
G
I
I
can't
think
of
anything
specifically,
that's
jumping
out.
If
I'm
honest,
I
don't
think
it's
necessary,
I
think
technically
everything's
available
to
them.
I
think
general
knowledge
of
the
available
tools
is
reasonable.
People
seem
to
always
have
a
go-to,
whether
it's
facebook
or
zoom,
or
google
hangouts
they
sort
of
know
of
at
least
one
and
from
a
from
a
creation
of
content
perspective
I
mean,
I
think,
the
biggest
challenge
we've
all
got
is
again
going
to
be
an
awareness
piece.
G
There's,
I
think,
there's
plenty
of
people
who
know
that
they
can
move
to
delivering
online
and
delivering
it
back
to
their
known
network,
but
to
know
that
they
can
publish
that
out
via
this
mechanism
is
probably
the
awareness
isn't
there
at
the
lower
level
so
without
without
drumming
up
that
awareness.
F
Yeah,
I
did
a
webinar
for
instructors
last
week
and
there
was
loads
of
interest
in
kind
of
how
to
use
zoom
how
to
use
facebook
live.
What's
the
in
equipment,
you
might
need,
what's
the
setup,
the
the
kind
of
promotion
bit
of
it
was.
It
was
kind
of
I
talked
about
active,
but
it
wasn't
like
their
top
concern.
They
were
looking
probably
more
at
kind
of
fully
integrated
systems
where
they
just
do
their
booking
and
then
stream
as
well,
that
that
seemed
to
be
of
interest
to
them.
F
I
guess
the
yeah,
the
stuff
that
we
heard
from
them,
was
just
that
kind
of
technical.
How
do
I
actually
do
this
or
they've
tried
it
and
it
didn't
work
and
they've
had
lots
of
issues
with
trying
to
get
their
their
participants
to
take
part
in
it,
and
so
it
was
really
around
that
that
issue
that
that
we
saw,
I
guess
the
another
thing.
I
don't
know
if
this
even
comes
into
this
kind
of
discussion
at
all,
but
we've
got
some
concerns
around
how
like
accessible.
F
This
is
gonna
be
to
the
kind
of
wider
population
in
terms
of
streaming.
Are
we
gonna
end
up
after
this
initial
kind
of
focus,
and
then
we've
just
got
quite
people
who
are
already
active
accessing
these
kind
of
opportunities,
and
and
are
we
going
to
get
a
bit
of
a
digital
divide
and
I
think
there's
some
stats
around
online
learning
showing
that
that
is
what's
happening
in
the
other
sectors.
F
So
just
think
to
that
we've
kind
of
seen-
and
I
had
a
specific
question-
I
just
wanted
to
throw
out
there,
which
is
around
affiliate
location
and
how
important
we
think
that
is
because,
just
in
our
booking
system,
we've
put
it
in,
but
I'm
kind
of
concerned
it
kind
of
disrupts
the
flow
a
bit.
If
you
choose
virtual
class
and
then
you've
got
to
do
affiliate
location
and
if
we
don't
describe
that
really
clearly,
I
think
it
might
be
a
bit
confusing.
F
Is
this
I
think
it's
optional,
but
is
this
that
we
think
we
should
be
keeping
in
booking
systems
for
now
or
if
we
took
it
out
just
to
stop
confusing
people
for
now?
Would
that
be
a
big
issue.
B
On
your
use
case,
well,
I
guess
someone
representing
active
westminster
should
probably
say
something
about
that,
because
I
think
that's
the
reason
that
that
use
case
is
what
exists,
but
I
don't
know
whether
that
that
is
relevant
for
open
sessions.
I
don't
know.
G
Well,
I
I
I
can't
speak
on
behalf
of
on
behalf
of
eugene,
but
speaking
on
behalf
of
regionally
based
clients
that
being
active
partnerships
and
westminster
when
the
concept
of
being
able
to
promote
their
local
deliverers
has
come
up.
It's
not
saying
they'll
have
thought
of
themselves
because
that's
too
deep
into
our
world
for
them
to
really
have
have
gone
through
their
brain,
but
the
ability
to
do
it
is
highly
attractive.
If
you
are
westminster,
supporting
your
local
deliverers
would
would
feasibly
be
a
very
high
priority.
G
We've
included
it,
but
we've
we've
managed.
We've
found
a
back-end
back-end
way
to
do
it.
We
don't
actually
ask
for
a
location,
so
we've
simplified
our
flow
without
without
sort
of
capturing
capturing
the
data
during
activity
creation,
but
I
it
would
be
valuable
to
to
the
consumers
we're
working
with.
A
Okay,
we
are
at
the
top
of
the
hour.
Thank
you
for
all
of
that
feedback.
Is
there
any
other
business
arising.
A
I
will
take
silence
as
a
no
then,
and
thank
you
very
much
all
for
contributing
to
this.
I
will
aim
to
get
this
written
up
by
the
start
of
next
week.
Thank
you
for
your
bandwidth,
nick
in
both
personal
and
I.t
senses
and
I'll
see
all
of
you
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
I
hope.