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From YouTube: OpenActive W3C Community Group Meeting / 2020-03-25
A
Okay,
hello.
Welcome
to
the
open,
active
w3c
community
calls
for
the
25th
of
March
I
think
this
is
a
very
well
attended
call,
partly
because
we've
got
the
kovat
19
crisis
going
on
really
so
we'll
be
going
through
many
proposals
related
to
moving
events
online
and
streaming
classes
because
of
the
urgency
of
the
situation
and
the
speed
with
which
the
sector
has
had
to
adapt
over
the
last
four
or
five
days.
A
Really
we're
hoping
to
finalize
as
much
of
this
as
we
possibly
can
and
get
this
into
the
specification
so
that
everybody
can
start
publishing
open
data
for
remote
and
streaming
events
as
soon
as
possible.
So
we
might
be
moving
it
quite
a
clip
and
if
you
didn't
see
my
message,
I've
also
added
half
an
hour
to
the
call
today
just
to
expedite
matters
as
much
as
possible,
because
we're
a
bit
extend
today.
I
see
people
are
still
joining
us
here,
a
bit
extended
today.
I
suspect.
Not
everybody
on
the
call
knows
everybody.
A
B
Afternoon,
everyone
the
week
is
that
he
wore
I'm
Alice
John
I
work
for
company
called
for
global
I'm,
the
Business
Development
Manager
there
and
I'm
working
with
MC
our
active
and
partners,
kinetic
insight
and
I'm
in
on
the
MC.
Our
active
membership
hub
and
data
portal,
which
is
obviously
picking
trust
and
for
this
forum.
C
C
D
J
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A
M
A
M
N
A
Fantastic,
thank
you
all
for
the
introductions.
I'll
now
start
showing
my
screen,
so
we
can
move
through
the
agenda.
There
is
a
fair
number
of
proposals,
but
they're
all
interrelated.
So
hopefully
the
process
goes
a
little
bit
faster
as
we
go
on
because
we'll
have
dealt
with
various
implications
as
we
proceed.
A
A
Okay,
so,
as
I
said
at
the
head
of
the
meeting,
lots
and
lots
of
activity
providers
are
now
moving
events
online,
typically
through
streaming,
sometimes
through
a
downloadable
or
asynchronous
video,
and
it's
important
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that.
Given
the
speed
with
which
the
sectors
had
to
adjust
to
pretty
much
all
physical
locations
being
closed
down
for
the
foreseeable
future.
A
So
just
take
you
through
the
proposals,
these
more
or
less
run
from
the
most
general
to
the
more
specific
in
terms
of
their
ordering,
so
the
first
one
is
virtual
locations.
So
this
represents
a
situation
in
which
a
class
that
was
normally
held
in
a
physical
location
like
the
yoga
class
or
a
fitness
class,
is
now
being
conducted
online
with
the
instructor
streaming
to
people
watching
at
home.
A
Immediately
beneath
that
we
have
video
objects
or
on-demand
events,
and
this
is
more,
like
your
say,
conventional
YouTube
style
video,
where
you've
got
a
video.
That's
online
available,
all
the
time,
essentially
you're,
just
watching
it,
but
you're
watching
it.
According
to
your
schedule,
because
it's
available
24/7.
A
The
rest
of
the
proposals
are
really
for
how
to
best
describe
these
two
classes
of
objects
streaming
and
an
async
video
describing
whether
or
not
any
equipment
is
required
to
participate,
whether
physical
equipment,
such
as
I,
don't
know
yoga
blocks
or
something
like
that,
or
whether
it's
about
hardware
support
whether
you
need
like
a
microphone
or
a
camera
or
something
like
that
event.
Attendance
mode
is
about
indicating
whether
people
are
going
to
be
participating
online
or
physically
maximum
virtual
attendee
capacity,
I
hope
it's
self
explanatory.
A
This
is
about
tracking
the
number
of
people
who
can
or
are
attending
a
virtual
event.
Event
moved
online
is
a
new
event
status
made
just
to
flag
up
the
fact
that
an
event
that
was
previously
physical
is
now
available
virtually
and
then
a
final
point
about
the
guidance
that
we
should
offer
regarding
these
various
classes
of
object
before
I
charge
in.
Is
there
anything
anybody
on?
The
call
would
like
to
add
to
that
list?
Is
there
anything
people
aren't
seeing
represented
there
that
they
think
needs
to
be.
K
I
have
one
this
is
a
last-minute
addition.
I've
labeled
it
in
the
in
the
github
as
levels
and
I
think
it
probably
it
might
not
take
long.
But
it's
become
apparent
from
the
various
research
conversations
that
levels
for
online
events
becomes
even
more
important,
because
when
people
who
don't
know
how
to
do
yoga
turn
up
to
a
level
2
or
above
yoga
class,
for
example,
it
gets
very
messy
and-
and
they
don't
get
very
much
out
of
it
and
the
instructors
get
frustrated
and
it
doesn't
really
work.
A
K
A
C
A
A
A
A
If
we
treat
location
virtual
location
as
a
separate
field,
in
addition
to
location,
that
makes
Toulon
questions
easier
and
semantics
easier,
but
there
is
still
a
limitation
that
there
can
be
only
one
virtual
location,
supported
by
our
tooling
as
it
currently
exists.
A
virtual
location
normally
just
consists
of
a
URL.
In
fact,
it's
basically
a
website
or
webpage
that
you're
pointing
to
so
I
guess.
The
first
question
to
ask
is:
is
a
single
virtual
location
sufficient
or
do
we
need
to
support
more
than
one
I.
H
M
Like
that
it
is,
it
is
absolutely
possible
to
stream
to
multiple
virtual
locations
that
was
in
literal
possibility,
synchronously.
At
the
same
time,
the
for
instance,
the
most
popular
piece
of
software
used
for
streaming.
This
sort
of
data
is
open
broadcasting
software,
which
is
a
free
piece
of
software,
that
I
encourage
and
anyone
who's
interested
to
have
a
look
at.
It
can
be
used
to
stream
to
multiple
locations
at
once,
including
places
like
Facebook
and
also
YouTube
streaming.
K
So
another
thoughts
are
kind
of
throw
in
here
speaking
to
various
instructors
and
and
and
talking
about
the
different
use
cases.
I
think
it
might
be
interesting,
framing-
probably
maybe
ahead
of
all
of
these
issues,
just
to
think
about
what
exactly
we're
talking
about
making
open
that
the
kind
of
data
we're
talking
about
here
and
and
I.
Suppose
it's
a
good
question
about
whether
the
primary
purpose
of
what
we're
doing
is
to
put
Facebook
live
and
Instagram
live
videos
into
open
data.
I,
don't
know
it's
a
kind
of
open
question.
K
All
of
these
questions
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
possible
and
I
think
in
each
one
of
these
properties.
We
could
definitely
expand
them
in
a
number
of
different
directions
to
cover
a
number
of
different
extensibility
cases
and
potentially
one
of
the
the
other
benefits
we
have
of
doing
this
at
this
stage.
Is
that
we're
talking
about
we're
not
going
to
get
this
into
the
actual
spec
itself
within
the
time
scale?
So
nothing
is
going
to
be
in
in
set
in
stone.
K
These
are
all
beta
properties,
and
so
we
have
the
opportunity
to
to
experiment
and
also
we
have
the
opportunity
to
keep
things
simple,
where
they
can
be
simple
for
the
sake
of
speed,
already
talking
to
some
booking
systems
that
are
like
well
yeah.
Well,
what's
the
minimum
I
can
do
here
to
get
this
working
so
so.
A
A
C
C
If
I'm
an
instructor
and
I'm,
not
in
my
natural
gym,
Community
Hall,
wherever
it
might
be,
I'm
now
doing
it
either
in
my
garage
front
room,
you
know
whatever
it
might
be
in
the
current
climate.
Is
that
not
the
location
rather
than
the
platform
that
you
in
to
distribute
it?
So
there
would
only
be
one
location,
I
mean
I,
think
the
point
of
the
locations
build
is
really
more.
P
A
I'm
just
going
to
say
really
I
think
the
force
of
the
location
property
is
to
let
attendees
know
where
they
have
to
be
and
yeah.
Of
course,
in
the
case
of
physical
locations,
those
two
naturally
imply
each
other,
but
virtual
location,
less,
but
yeah
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we'd
be
expecting
the
instructors
to
reveal
their
physical
whereabouts
for
publishing
purposes.
Oh
no.
C
It's
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
it
like
that.
I
didn't
say
you
know,
I
didn't
mean
come
to
32
acacia
Avenue,
but
I
meant,
because
so,
for
example,
one
of
our
registered
instructors
with
us
is
already
online
in
lanes
and
a
Martin
she's
a
PT
and
a
group
X
instructor.
She
I
mean
she's
fortunate
to
have
her
own
studio
and
hosts
everything
on
a
website.
So
she
pinpoints
everything
to
her
on
the
website
to
attend
of
Martin.
C
A
K
The
point
out
is
that
because,
because
we
need
to
track
when
we
move
from
beta
to
a
full-blown
property,
they
all
have
to
be
a
bit
of
work
for
everyone
anyway,
in
refactoring
their
code
to
account
for
that,
so
removing
the
beta
prefix
so
that
seem
a
little
bit
of
refactoring
could
easily
move
that
that
same
property
to
in
array
form.
If
we
need
it
to
be
right,
if
that
was
the
direction
of
travel,
the
actually
the
other.
The
other
way
in
some
ways
is
more
difficult.
We've.
K
That's
an
array,
then
you've
already
kind
of
everything's
got
an
account
for
multiple
and
as
soon
as
you're.
In
a
many
scenario,
the
UI
is
got
to
account
for
multiple
everything's,
but
account
for
multiple
and
so
you've
got
to
kind
of
really,
whereas
if
you're
doing
it,
if
you're
doing
it
like
everything,
one
and
then
you've
gone
many,
you
could
just
you
know
display
the
first
one
until
you
can
support
many
on
your
UI.
So
it's
kind
of
it's
cuz.
K
A
K
Well,
I
guess
if
no
one's
actually
posted
more
than
one
link
well,
I
suppose
my
jet
might
guide
there's
a
separate
point,
because
yeah
and
I've
already
commented
some
of
this
stuff
on
the
issue,
but
I
actually
wonder
whether
the
URL
for
this
is
going
to
be
used,
that
much
for
virtual
location,
because
because
most
people
are
going
to
have
that
stuff
behind
a
paywall.
If
they're
using
this
mechanism
for.
G
G
A
D
We
have
already
implemented
both
on
the
publishing
and
on
the
consumer
side
of
this
solution
for
just
one
URL.
It
does
certainly
make
it
simpler
for
us,
it
would
add
time
to
our
implementation
to
extend
to
more
than
one
I.
Don't
really
see
why
I
mean
if
someone
was
publishing
to
multiple
streams,
then
the
participants
you
asking
the
participant
to
make
a
decision
as
to
which
one
they
want
to
watch.
H
P
C
F
The
whether
there
are
specific
URLs
ahead
of
time
for
specific
sessions
or
if
some
instructors,
just
using
more
Janette
general,
come
back
at
three
o'clock
tomorrow
and
then
a
post
appears,
and
that
would
then
have
a
specific
URL.
But
that
may
be
overcome
by
putting
their
facebook
URL
in
there
or
their
website.
Url
I
think.
Q
Quite
a
few
of
them
will
have
some
sort
of
membership,
so
you
would
actually
go
to
a
gateway
page
and
go
through
that
to
get
to
the
thing
that
you're
allowed
to
see
because
you
paid
for
it
and
that's
sort
of
the
same
thing
there.
It's
like
there's
the
gate
page
and
if
you
are
a
member
of
the
group
or
whatever,
then
you
you
can
go
in
and
see
the
post.
A
D
This
is
my
zoom
link,
so
for
each
and
every
one
of
those
sessions
they're
going
to
want
to
have
a
unique
identifier
on
each
one,
so
employers,
if
you
set
up
a
schedule
of
sessions,
a
repeating
session
as
we
call
it,
and
then
there
is
the
ability
to
change
the
URL
for
each
one,
but
but
in
our
implementation
at
the
moment
the
URL
is
a
mandatory
field
for
each
session.
Okay,
so
each
in.
A
D
Can
have
either
or
you
could
have
the
same
URL.
If
so,
if
it
was
a
free
session,
then
it
makes
sense
to
just
have
one
URL,
but
if
it
is
a
book,
a
book
session
that
you're
charging
for
then
you'd
want
to
have
a
different
URL
for
each
one.
Rather
what
otherwise
people
just
keep
using
the
same
URL
they're,
not
booking.
D
Okay
and
just
on
the
subject
of
location,
so
we're
also
having
a
physical
location
as
well,
which
is
an
optional
field,
and
that
is
to
enable
consumers
off
the
open
data
using
one
of
their
finding
widgets.
We
could
give
that
to
active
Westminster
and
they
can
prioritize
sessions
that
are
being
run
by
people
within
the
Westminster
region.
Right.
M
P
P
A
K
M
D
They
be
doing
that
I
mean
yeah.
I
mean
people
could
do
that
in
play.
We
assume
you
can
set
up
as
many
series
its
of
sessions
as
you
like.
You
could
have
your
Instagram
Y
on
your
Facebook
one,
your
zoom
one,
but
that
doesn't
stop
people
from
doing
that,
but
it's
just
a
question
of
whether
they
would
actually
do
it.
K
Yeah
I
think
I,
just
I
keep
coming
back
to
this
idea
that
the
primary
focus
of
what
we're
doing
here
is
not
they're
the
people
that
are
probably
going
to
be
broadcasting
at
the
scale
of
having
multiple
I.
Don't
I
don't
know,
but
maybe
that
maybe
there
were
me,
maybe
there
will
be,
and
but
it's
to
do,
that
you
require
significantly
more
software
than
or
technical
expertise
and
production.
A
Think
I
think,
given
that
it's
an
urgent
situation,
it
really
is
about
currently
existing
practice,
because
there
is
some
flexibility
moving
from
beta
into
the
specification
in
future.
So
it
really
is
about
whether
there
is
a
need
to
have
multiple
right
at
this
moment
or
whether
single
given
simplicity
of
implementation
will
do
the
trick.
I.
K
Think
I
think
if
I
will,
if
you
were
to
ask
a
different
question
which
is:
do
we
want
a
complicated
feature
which
is
gonna
be
less
implemented
because
of
the
cost
or
a
simple
feature?
That's
going
to
be
more
well
implemented
because
every
booking
system
will
will
adopt
it
because
it's
cheaper,
potentially
the
cheaper
option,
which
is
going
to
be
more
well
supported,
is
better
than
a
more
expensive
option.
Is
another
way
of
saying.
K
A
Guess
it
was
precisely
why
I
was
asking:
is
we
trying
to
ascertain
whether
four
people
on
this
call?
This
is
an
edge
case
or
not
right,
exactly
yeah.
In
fact,
the
impression
that
I'm
getting
is
that
one
value
is
in
fact
sufficient
and
then
modeling
using
multiple
schedule.
You
know
attaching
a
single
value
to
multiple
scheduled
sessions
would
normally
be
the
way
forward.
If
your
concern
is
that
people
would
keep
on
logging
into
the
same
session
and
therefore
not
charging
before
that,
it
doesn't
particularly
help.
It
creates
complications.
M
M
A
A
A
N
P
K
A
So
yeah,
the
next
point
is
asynchronous
video,
so
videos
that
are
uploaded
for
consumption
at
the
users
choice.
There
is
a
kind
of
top-level
architectural
decision
that
needs
to
be
made
here.
I
hope
that
this
concern
is
not
too
abstract
for
people
on
the
call.
This
might
turn
into
a
Tim
and
Nick
conversation.
A
The
question
is
really
how
we
model
this
and
whether
we
think
of
this
primarily
as
a
recording
of
an
event,
which
is
what
the
system
is
currently
geared
towards,
with
every
event
being
an
opportunity
for
exercise
or
weather
review
it
primarily
as
a
video
object
in
real
terms.
What
this
means
is,
if
we
treat
it
as
an
event,
almost
everything
that's
currently
specified
for
the
open,
active
opportunity
model,
just
transfers
on
to
this
and
there's
a
couple
of
additional
concerns
that
are
added
in
to
reflect
the
fact
that
this
is
a
an
on-demand
video.
A
If
we
think
of
it
as
a
video
object.
Very
little
in
the
open,
active
specification.
Is
that
useful
to
us?
It's
very
hard
to
transfer
data
points
from
events
onto
the
video
object,
but
the
video
object
is
itself
a
playable
artifact.
There's
all
the
information
in
a
video
object
that
you
need
in
order
to
start
up
a
player
in
your
web
browser
plus
press
play
and
go
where,
as
on
demand
event,
doesn't
support
that
kind
of
behavior.
A
To
break
it
down
further,
although
people
can
stop
me
if
I'm
missing
a
nuance
here,
I
think
it's
to
some
extent
about
user
journey.
So
is
it
a
question
that
when
we
publish
an
event,
we're
happy
to
essentially
give
a
URL
and
say
go
here
to
watch
the
video
or
is
it
that
you're
saying
here
is
the
video
you
can
watch
it
right
now
you
are
one
click
away
from
participating
in
the
event.
K
Well,
sorry,
Jim
just
change
it
check
the
characterization
there.
Is
this?
Not
isn't
it
on
modeling
question
rather
than
because
there's
no
reason
you
couldn't
embed
a
video
in
on
demand
event.
In
fact,
unlink
the
isn't
it
cool
more
a
question
of
whether
video
object
is
an
event
or
whether
other
thing
we're
describing
is
an
event
which
makes
it
you
said
I
mean
like
it's
not
we
can.
We
can
imprint
the
functionality
in
either
case
well,.
A
H
Me
it
feels
like.
Maybe
we
go
back
to
the
previous
point
around
simplicity
right,
so
if
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
less
work
to
go
for
an
on-demand
event
and
there's
a
way
of
embedding
that
because
I
think
I
don't
want
to
be
for
everyone,
I
think
this
stuff
that's
way
minimally
doing
we
probably
just
link
to
other
people's
websites
I
think.
A
H
N
Doing
a
bit
of
work
around
this
for
a
current
project
and
we
feel
that
it's
important
for
or
critical
for
the
user
journey
to
have
their
video
embedded
within
the
ok
results
page
in
in
our
instance,
rather
than
linking
off
to
a
different
websites,
play
the
video
and
that's
what
what
we're
building
in
so
I
guess.
It
would
just
be
a
case
of
whether
we
use
they
would
bet
yeah
be
fundamental,
that
that
was
included.
So.
K
From
the
events
you
get
automatically,
you
get
level
and
accessibility
and
whatever
else
that
might
be
relevant,
attendee
instructions.
If
you
want
to
put
equipment
information
in
there
all
that
stuff
is
there
automatically.
And
then,
if
you
want
to
then
link
to
the
video
for
Tom's
music,
a
stone
describes
which,
which
makes
so
much
sense,
then
you
could
put
that
as
a
link
within
the
on
demand
event.
And
just
you
know
this
is
the
this.
Is
the
video
and
embed
in
there?
K
Then
the
you
know
the
widths,
the
height
the
frame
rate,
whatever
else
information
about
a
video
that
there
is,
but
I
guess
that's
that
those
properties
kind
of
proxies
over
the
video
and
actually
you
know
there
might
be
several
videos
or
there
might
be
different
types
of
video
or
I,
don't
know
like
whatever
in
the
future.
That
might
change
and
as
we
talked
about
with
the
last
last
point
about
maybe
in
the
future
there
might
be
multiple
livestream
options
or
single.
K
You
know
platform
depending
on
what,
in
the
same
way
here
we
might
allow
for
extensibility
by
changing
it
in
the
future.
But
fundamentally,
if
the
objects
we're
modeling
are
what
they
are,
then
that
stuff
will
be
easy
to
change
just
you're,
just
changing
it
from
from
a
single
tour.
Many
in
terms
of
multiple
videos,
for
example
on
demand
event.
K
You
could
just
change
it
for
a
single
tour
in
there
or
back
again,
and
that's
the
only
change
you
need
to
make
similar
to
the
last
point,
whereas
if
it
we've
embedded
everything
in
one
and
we'd
kind
of
conflated,
the
notion
of
a
video
in
a
notion
of
the
event
into
one
thing,
you've
tied
two
things
together
that
aren't
really
the
same,
and
then
we
that
creates
further
modeling
problems
down
the
line.
We
can't
just.
We
can
change
it
easily.
So.
A
Q
But
Chris
you
know
on
a
requirements
kind
of
thing
before
we
sort
of
open,
active
R.
Is
this
but
wastefully,
certainly
both
on-demand
events
that
aren't
videos
so
yeah
last
year,
for
instance,
where
we
took
the
5k
women's,
which
managed
to
get
some
fairly
accurate,
it's
from
modeled
it,
and
then
we
did
a
promotion
of
running
against
that
and
seeing
how
how
how
far
behind
the
first,
this
woman
a
5k
you
would
come.
Q
K
Q
That's
also
true
yeah,
so
we've
we've,
if
you
think
of
potentially
doing
something
like
a
5k
program
kind
of
has
on-demand
events
that
are
audio
in
the
events
to
talk
you
through
the
stage
of
the
process
you're
going
to
not
sure
they
would
actually
come
out
as
events
like
this,
but
it's
that
kind
of
thing.
Okay,.
C
So
very
I
think
some
of
it
might
depend
on
which
sector
of
the
industry
were
involved
in.
So
if
you
look
for
us
as
independent
group,
X
instructors
for
them,
it's
the
same
thing.
So,
whether
you
lik
go
going
on
to
class
finder
and
click
I
want
to
do
a
Pilates
class,
and
it's
normally
a
you
know.
Everyone
active
in
Slam,
for
example,
in
the
current
climate
that
doesn't
exist
so
that
the
instructor
may
have
a
online
video.
It's
one
the
same
for
us.
A
Okay,
so
you
might
want
it
okay,
so
there's
two
separate
issues:
I
just
want
to
go
back
for
a
moment
to
address
the
point
Chris
raised
with
Nick
I.
Think
maybe
it's
possible
just
to
generalize
this,
then
if
we
say
on
demand
event-
and
we
take
this
super
class-
a
video
object
which
I
think
is
media
object
in
schema.org
I,
guess
that
would
address
the
concern.
A
K
A
M
A
H
H
Tagging
them
almost
so
you
could
see
from
a
data
user
perspective
if
you
might
only
want
to
show
the
live
stuff
in
one
place,
for
example,
so
there's
a
way
of
I,
don't
know
whether
that's
over
simplifying
it
almost
hogging.
What's
live
like
watching.
It
say
that
you
have
to
be
there
to
watch
those
stuff.
You
can
get
any
time,
I
guess.
A
I
guess
the
preferred
route
from
the
instructors.
Point
of
view,
though,
is,
if
you
join
me
at
9:00,
you
can
join
me
live
if
you
follow
this
link
after
9:30
when
I'm,
when
it's
uploaded,
you
get
it
asynchronously,
so
that
people
just
so
that
the
user
journeys
just
click
on
the
link
and
participate
to
the
fullest
extent
possible.
Given
the
timing,
I.
K
I
mean
I
would
say:
I
attempted
to
take
YouTube's
approach
with
this,
which
is
to
suggest
that
we
take
YouTube's
approach
with
this,
which
is
that
they
they
have
live
and
live,
is
live
and
in
that
mode,
you're
you're
in
kind
of
I.
Guess
what
we're
talking
about
with
with
the
virtual
event
stuff.
Previously
you've
got
a
tuner
at
this
time
and
you
can
watch
it
and
it's
there
and
as
soon
as
you've
finished
that
live,
recording
and
YouTube
then
converts
that
into
I.
Guess
what
is
affected
in
on-demand.
K
It
saves
it
as
a
separate,
be
a
bit
of
media.
If
you
refresh
the
page
after
the
live,
things
ended
you're,
actually
not
watching
live
anymore
you're
watching
the
on-demand
thing.
It's
translated
into
that
and
and
sometimes
platforms,
don't
allow
that
to
happen.
Or
sometimes
you
can
turn
that
off,
so
that
if
you
actually
get
there
at
the
end
and
the
things
finished
like
iPlayer,
if
you've
ever
tried
to
watch
something
live
and
I
play
and
refresh
the
page
ask
the
programs
done,
it
will
say
this
is
gonna,
be
on
demand
shortly.
K
So
you
need
to
go
back
and
there's
different,
so
I
wonder
whether
the
way,
if
we
follow
that
pattern,
the
other
platforms
to
whether
on
demand
is
actually
a
separate
thing.
So
you
know,
if
there's
a
feed
of
events
and
there's
a
few
dove
on
demand
which
may
be
separate,
there
may
be
something
disappears
out
of
one
or
you
know
the
events
finished,
but
then
the
on-demand.
It
appears
in
the
on-demand
feed
as
a
separate
video,
a
separate
content
and
those
two
things
because
ultimately
they're
the
thing
with
on
demand.
K
Is
it's
a
very
different
user
experience,
it's
more
like
Netflix?
Isn't
it
you're
scrolling
through
categories
of
stuff,
because
there's
no
time
to
really
differentiate
between
two
on-demand
videos,
maybe
location?
If
you
want
to
find
things
that
are
near
you
that
have
been
recorded
and
that
you're
you're
much
more
kind
of
not
what's
the
next
thing
I
can
do.
But
what
looks
the
nicest
from
the
description?
And
so
it's
curated,
more
potentially
than
than
just
events,
are
where
you're
just
looking
for
the
next
thing.
In
some
cases,.
A
Okay,
so
in
that
case,
really
the
publication.
In
fact,
there
is
a
difference
in
terms
of
what's
published
between
sync
and
async
video
and
it's
down
to
the
platform,
essentially
to
make
that
transfer
as
seamless
as
possible
and
that's
a
widespread
user
journey
mode
so
far
that
people
will
understand
this
from
I
play
our
YouTube
interactions.
K
A
A
Okay,
we
are
near
the
top
of
the
hour.
Those
were
the
two
I
think
of
the
more
tangled
and
abstract
questions.
The
rest
are
relatively
concrete,
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
just
review
them
fairly
quickly
and
integrate
concrete
suggestions
as
we
go
well,
let's
see
if
that's
actually
possible
before
I
go
on,
though,
is:
does
everyone
feel
that
the
asynchronous
video
question
has
been
sufficiently
resolved?
A
The
immediate
use
case
for
this
is
a
desire
to
present
a
filter
so
that,
when
you're
looking
for
a
class
to
participate
in
online,
you
know
whether
you
need
to
have
to
bring
anything
to
have
anything
at
home
already.
So
this
was
proposed
as
a
boolean
value
or
a
boolean
flag.
Just
saying
yes
and
yes,
you
need
equipment
or
no,
you
don't
need
additional
equipment.
A
H
I,
don't
know
whether
it
needs
to
be
like
sorted
out
now,
but
I've
definitely
seen
things
will
happy.
Some
people
say.
Equipment
is
optional,
just
add
a
confusion
so
as
in
they
will
some
some
people
will
kind
of
say.
Okay,
if
you've
got
dumbbells
whatever,
then
you
can
do
this.
If
you
don't
undo
so
they'll
kind
of
adapt
but
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
common
that
is
and
don't
want
that
to
be
necessary,
blocker,
just
something
we
should
plug.
A
K
Either
the
other
thing
that
I
picked
up
from
some
of
the
calls
I've
had
with
instructors
is
that
that
sometimes
that
you
have
to
in
these
times
improvise.
So
although
equipment
might
be
required,
the
equipment
is
like
two
books
you
have
to
like
or
whatever
like
or
a
it's
like
a
P
Encyclopedia
Brittanica.
If
you've
got
one
lying
around
so
that
there's
yet
so
that
so,
there's
like
like
a
need
for
a
description
field
of
some
kind.
K
Now
that
might
just
be
sufficient
to
have
that
as
attendee
instructions
for
now
right,
because
that's
kind
of
what
sending
instructions
is
broadly
for.
So,
if
someone
takes
the
box
to
say
or
in
or
makes
it
required
or
recommended,
or
whatever
that's
the
other
value
required
or
optional,
then
yeah,
then
they
could
take
a
look
at
that
field.
Essentially,
okay,.
A
E
A
K
So
that's
a
really
good
point
actually,
so
that
I
think
part
of
the
assumption
here
is,
if
you're
looking
for
a
specific
type
of
class,
like
a
yoga
class,
you're,
probably
going
to
know
the
kind
of
equipment
you
might
need,
like
a
yoga
mat,
so
equipment
makes
sense
in
the
context
of
each
activity
enough
that
maybe
an
actual
list
at
this
stage
isn't
needed.
But
for
kind
of
the
majority
of
cases
there
might
be
some
weird
edge
cases,
and
so
some
people
might
be
looking.
For
example,
a
beginner's
class
with
no
equipment
required.
K
Q
A
Q
Got
a
follow-on
question
sort
of
similar,
it's
like,
if
someone's
doing
an
event
on
peloton
or
Swift
or
race
filet,
and
you
need
to
have
peloton
or
Swift
or
race
filet
in
order
to
participate
in
it.
You
know
that's
the
sort
of
required
equipment,
that's
what
it's
a
ship
loose
in
my
head
is
their
concept
of
at
or
you
know
peloton.
You
need
a
whole
bike
so
to
be
part
of
it.
Is
there
a
concept.
D
K
Q
K
So
we've
still
got
the
name
field
and
virtual
location
and
and
and
the
the
URL
field,
so
you
could
definitely
have
and
I
think
we
kind
of
suggested
that
in
the
guidance
here
that
you
would
have
the
name
of
zoom
URL
is
you
know
Zuma
the
name
can
be
raised
fully.
The
URL
would
be
erased
for
calm,
slash.
K
Although
to
be
fair,
that's
kind
of
how
the
same
as
stuff
works
anyway
in
schema,
so
if
you're,
if
you're
referencing
social
media
URLs,
you
just
have
an
array
of
URLs,
you
don't
actually
bother
saying
this.
Is
a
facebook
URL,
because
you're
expected
as
a
consumer
to
just
know
that
that's
the
Facebook
URL
based
on
the
form
of
the
URL
itself,
so
we
don't
need
to
do
anything
more
than
just
use,
use
the
correct
URLs.
Okay,.
A
A
There
was
some
discussion
of
whether
it
should
be
more
specific
than
this.
Like
you
know,
camera
required
microphone
required.
That
kind
of
thing,
I
think
the
feeling
when
we
were
discussing
it
amongst
ourselves
was
that
that
starts
getting
quite
fine-grained
quite
quickly,
and
it
also
removes
a
certain
amount
of
judgment
from
the
participants
about
what
kind
of
interactive
experience
they
feel
they
need
or
desire.
A
H
A
K
Yeah,
that's
pretty
interesting
and
because
the
the
yeah
I
guess
in
in
in
big
classes,
sometimes
the
instructor
can't
actually
go
around
and
check
your
form
and
you
know
and
give
you
instant
and
pointers,
but
in
small
classes,
maybe
that
you
get
more
attention
so
I
guess.
Maybe
there
is
something
in
in
the
real
world,
so
I
totally
see
that
I
mean
I.
Guess
part
of
me
thinks
that
that's
worth
exploring,
but
then
there's
a
little
bit
of
me
that
thinks.
Also
this
is
a
betta
field.
K
Maybe
we
should
be
zoning,
a
non-virtual
for
the
sake
of
the
what
we're
doing
now
and
then
looking
to
expand
that
out
out
later,
but
I
think
if
we
had
more
time-
and
this
wasn't
like
super
pressed
thing
that
would
that
would
almost
certainly
be
yeah
I
can
see.
I
can
see
us
to
do.
We
would
probably
want
to
do
it
additional
research
right
into
into
actually
how
does
this
work
in
real
classes
and
what
kind
of
form
of
words
could
we
use
to
suggest?
K
M
M
To
one
of
the
suggestions
in
that,
even
if
a
activity
is
being
live-streamed
by
one
of
the
many
platforms
we've
discussed
already,
it
does
still
offer
I
can't
think
of
one
that
doesn't
currently
offer
feedback
from
participants
in
text
form,
even
if
they
don't
have
any
specific
equipment
to
allow
them
to
distribute
their
own
voice
or
video.
I
know.
C
C
A
Think,
in
fact,
it's
fairly
common,
though,
that
you
do
get
this
kind
of
curious,
like
shout
out
kind
of
mode.
If
anybody
watched
that
very
highly
viewed,
YouTube
clip
Monday
morning
for
four
kids
at
home,
I
forget
the
name
of
the
service,
but
it
was
a
widely
viewed
streaming
service
and
essentially
the
instructor
all
the
way
through
was
kind
of
doing
a
shout
out
to
Sean
and
Jamaica
who's
watching
this
now
so
their.
K
That's
why
I
kind
of
suggested
preferred,
rather
than
required
back
that
conversation
and
because
he
wouldn't
force
anyone
to
do
it
and
I
haven't
found
anyone.
Yet
who
said
that
they
would
force
or
expect
to
force
that,
but
but
would
very
much
prefer
it,
because
that's
the
kind
of
point
of
the
experience
he's
trying
to
create
if
you
want
to
sign
up
for
a
class,
but
you
don't
get
that
feedback,
there's
lots
of
videos.
You
can.
K
You
know
watch
that
are
one
way
and,
and
that's
not
the
point
of
what
what
he's
trying
to
do
so
I
guess
it
depends
on
if
you're,
if
you're,
looking,
if
you're
a
participant
looking
for
that
interactive
experience
that
maybe
you're
you
more
used
to
in
the
real
world
in
virtual
worlds.
This
is,
if
you're,
someone
that
just
wants
to
kind
of
watch
and
not
get
that
not
expected.
Turn
your
camera
on
they're
not
expect
to
engage
I
think
that
was
probably
the
original
sense
of
what
this
property
was
for.
Okay,.
A
So
I
think
that
points
to
two
needs,
and
the
first
is
simply
that
possibly
we
need
to
think
about
what
the
nomenclature
is
for
is
interactive,
partly
to
narrow
the
scope
so
that
it's
just
virtual
things
and
we're
not
capturing
what
live.
Interaction
is
like,
and
also
to
capture
that
it's
sort
of
personally
interactive
I,
suppose
that
it
is
about
the
instructors
ability
to
deliver
personalized
instruction.
A
More
than
about
just
a
general
ability
to
have
some
kind
of
communication
with
each
other
I,
don't
know
what
form
of
words
that
is,
but
I
think
we
probably
do
need
to
rename
it.
The
second
point
is
that
I
suppose,
if
we
shift
from
preferred
from
required,
it
feels
like
the
optional
category.
No
longer
serves
much
of
a
purpose.
K
E
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
let's
I
think
probably
a
little
bit
more
thought
needs
to
go
into
that,
probably
not
more
than
about
a
ten
or
fifteen
minute
discussion,
but
probably
more
than
we
have
right
now.
So,
let's
see
if
we
can
move
that
discussion
on
to
the
github
thread
and
come
up
with
a
crisp
proposal
and
move
that
into
a
betta
property
shortly,.
K
I
wonder
Anton.
This
is
just
just
a
suggestion
because,
given
the
situation
and
everyone's
came
to
get
on
with
this
I
wonder
if
it's
worth
is
trying
to
swiftly
move
to
cover
all
the
points
by
by
the
end
of
the
call
at
half
past
and
then,
if
anyone
has
opportunity
wants
to
stay
on
the
call
for
an
additional
15
minutes
just
round
off
and
conclude
everything.
If
there's
any
outstanding
points.
K
Basically
the
idea,
because
by
the
end
of
the
call
come
what
may,
we
will
have
the
answer
that
we
need
to
then
by
the
end
of
the
day,
have
all
the
tooling
and
documentation
in
place.
So
everyone
can
kind
of
crack
on
because
I'm
just
concerned
that
maybe
if
we
don't
do
that
that
we
might
we,
the
normal
process,
would
absolutely
involve
lots
of
github,
x'
and
probably
subsequent
calls.
But
I
just
wonder
if
we
we
should
be
more
expedient
than
that
yeah.
A
A
A
A
L
L
K
K
It's
a
good
point:
I
guess
they
said:
that's
really
interesting.
Yes,
what
would
a
feed
consumer
do
when
they've
come
across
an
online
event?
They
don't
know
what
to
do
with
it.
Well,
they
they
look
for
any
similar
to
current
events.
Sorry
to
to
the
normal
events
that
we
have
so
yeah
I
guess
they
would
present
it
with
a
description
that
looks
well.
K
I
G
G
K
If
the
Haitian
know
yet
thing
and
they're
being
distant,
where
ISIL
location
specified
with
an
on
demand,
oppose
that
location
just
represents
where
the
instructor
usually
is
which
allows
you
to
do
things
like
the
Westminster
scenario,
finding
things
that
usually
in
Westminster
literally
but
then
of
course,
that
could
be
misinterpreted
as
well.
That's
a
real
event.
That's
happening
at
that
place,
but
actually
they've
missed
the
attendance
mode.
K
K
So
is
there
a
practical
point
that
is
at
the
moment
we're
all
in
lockdown,
so
anything
that's
being
displayed
on
the
website
at
the
moment
can't
really
be
misinterpreted.
Well,
if
someone,
if
there's
a
data
user
that
hasn't
updated
their
stuff
yet
obviously
a
lot
of
the
data
feeds
will
be
empty
or
or
dry,
because
everything's
being
canceled
or
is
moved
online.
K
So
yeah,
it's
a
tough
one.
It's
because
I
can
see
what
you're
saying
but
I
just
don't
know
how
we,
because
the
scenario
we're
talking
about
is
there's
going
to
be
websites
out
there
that
using
this
data
that
are
going
to
be
incorrect
because
they
can't
pick
up
this
property
because
it's
it's
an
it's
just
they'll
be
ignoring
it
as
what
the
spec
tells
them
to
do,
and
so
there's
incorrect
information,
potentially
that's
being
presented,
then
because
they
might
think
the
class
is
actually
happening
in
a
location,
yeah.
M
K
Well,
the
I
think
it
sounds
like
the
options
we
have
are
either
do
something
that
purposely
breaks
their
stuff
in
a
way.
That
will
not
therefore
render
events
in
the
way
that
they
wouldn't
be
valid,
so
things
like
just
not
including
location
at
all,
so
that
they
can't
possibly
render
it,
because
without
a
location
there
geosearch
will
probably
break
so
actually
excluding
location
is
what
we
want
to
do
actively
or
indeed
any
other
field
that
they
would
depend
on
to
render.
K
But
I
can't
think
usefully
how
we
can
do
that
without
renaming
properties
and
other
stuff
or
types,
but
all
of
that
could
be
yeah,
so
maybe
in
the
short
term,
it's
just
a
case
of
exceeding
location.
But
then,
if
we
do
that,
then
we're
going
to
limit
the
Westminster
scenario
we
talked
about
earlier,
where
you
want
to
be
able
to
keep
things.
Are
my
spins
from
one
place
so.
K
K
Summarizing
it,
basically,
we
we
pointed
out
that,
if,
if
we
don't
use
something
to
make
the
current
data,
we're
publishing
about
virtual
invalids,
then
because
of
the
nature
of
this
property,
which
is
just
indicate
that
it's
online,
but
it's
only
a
separate
property
that
will
be
ignored
by
any
current
data
user
that
you
can
end
up
with
they
data
being
misrepresented.
So
the
proposal
just
now
was
to
use
a
separate
property
for
the
location
as
an
affiliated
location.
What
you're
trying
to
say
that
this
was
originally
there,
but
it's
not
anymore.
K
It
would
have
to
be
a
bita
property
anyway,
and
so
argue.
Arguably,
you
could
retire
that
beter
property
when
we
move
to
the
full
skip
the
full
spec
change,
because
it
might
be
a
breaking
change
next
anyway,
and
therefore
it's
a
bita
property
temporarily
in
this
situation,
just
to
avoid
misrepresentation,
okay,.
M
A
M
I
think
that's
a
side
effect.
The
event
moved
online
is
no
longer
required,
and
then
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
look
at
bringing
event
moved
online
and
removing
beta
affiliate
location.
Once
we
move
to
a
new
version
of
the
specification,
it's
specifically
for
this
interim
interim
period,
where
we
want
to
support
existing
feeds
wherever
of
all
and
we'd
like
to
support
those
feeds.
Once
all
of
this
blows
over
so.
H
I
misunderstood,
so
please
just
tell
me
to
the
shop
if
I
have,
but
if
M,
if
then
you're
a
GL
I'll,
for
example,
who
then
does
have
a
session
that
normally
would
take
place
in
a
physical
location,
and
then
your
session
has
now
you've
now
moved
that
session
to
an
online
broadcast
or
video
whatever
it
is.
How
would
that
be
represented.
K
Or
they
would
they
would?
They
would
simply
use
this
new
property
for
the
word
just
talking
about
here
to
indicate
that
it's
online
and
then
that
would
and
then
remove
the
location
or
change
the
location
to
affiliated
location.
Those
two
things
together
would
break
anyone's,
will
not
break
but
probably
mean
that
in
existing
implementations
would
ignore
the
session.
If
they
were
going
to
render
on
a
map
and
say
you
could
turn
up
there,
because
it
doesn't
have
a
location
anymore,
but
implementations
that
support
virtual
events,
which
would
anyone
who's
going
to
implement
the
stuff.
D
K
H
A
A
We
do
still
need
to
deal
with
maximum
virtual
attendee
capacity
and
remaining
virtual
attendee
capacity.
I
think
these
are
fairly
unproblematic,
I
think
there's
a
because,
as
in
the
case
that
Nick
instance
of
an
instructor
who
only
wants
to
have
say
10
students
on
a
streaming
site,
this
would
be
these
would
be
properties
that
would
allow
that
to
be
that
use
case
to
be
met.
A
There
is
kind
of
a
nomenclature
point
in
that
maximum
attendee
capacity
currently
exists
in
specification
and
is
implicitly
physical,
but
not
explicitly
so.
This
is
a
mismatch
with
schema.org,
which
has
got
minimum
and
maximum
fitness
area
which,
which
has
got
maximum
physical
attendee
capacity,
but
not
maximum
attendee
capacity.
So
I
guess
it's
a
question
of
niceness
of
the
specification
I
think.
A
K
K
No
they've
kept
those
they
call
three
yeah.
This
is
a
really
an
unfortunate
thing,
because
for
them
this
is
really
unfortunate,
because
you
can't
easily
deprecated
things
on
schema
door
because
there's
millions
of
websites
using
it,
but
but
because,
because
when
they
obviously
didn't
think
this
about
about
this
particular
scenario
when
they
implement
it
in
the
first
place.
K
So
this
transition
from
attendee
and
torso
split
between
physical
and
virtual
is
yes,
it's
a
massive
pain
for
and
for
the
booking
spec,
as
well,
like
everything
that
relies
on
having
a
number
of
spaces
remaining
and
now
effectively.
You've
got
two
different
mechanisms.
If
it's
a
mixed
event
to
book
a
thing
and
two
different
attendee
counts
to
keep
track
of,
but
I
what
I
wonder
in
in
this
in
the
short
term,
whether
actually
to
even
simplify
further,
we
don't
eat,
we
don't
adopt
a
purpose.
K
We
don't
adopt
maximum
physical
attendee
capacity
and
just
put
max
from
virtual
attendee
capacity
into
beta
and
therefore
that's
but
but
then
see.
To
be
honest,
the
other
thing
is:
if
we,
if
people
were
trying
to
adopt
the
adapt,
the
booking
spec,
to
make
bookings
against
the
stuff,
then
that
still
problematic,
but
because
you
really
just
want
to
make
bookings
against.
K
However,
many
spaces
are
left,
so
so
yeah
so
I'd
say
we
could
we
could
adopt
it,
but
I'd
wonder
whether
if
we
do
it
optic,
we
shouldn't
really
push
it
that
hard,
because
I
don't
know
it's
probably
more
of
a
kind
of
point
of
information.
Maximum
virtual
attendee
capacity,
rather
than
anything
that
should
be
used
in
a
in
a
calculation,
could.
M
M
K
Yeah
yeah
challenge
there
is:
it
doesn't
fit
with
the
schema.org
modeling
pattern,
because
you're
you're
you're
putting
a
if
you
imagine
the
way
that
schema
thinks
about
things
is
that
any
any
different
type
can
be
taken
in
isolation
and
exists
on
its
own
in
its
own
right.
So
you
might
that
virtual
location
in
theory
could
exist
outside
of
the
event
and
be
you
know,
used
by
multiple
events
and
etc.
M
I
think
I
think
that
actually
correlates
with
what
you've
just
said
that
the
virtual
location
has
a
virtual
capacity
and
by
applying
the
capacity
to
that
location,
it
is
semantically
correct.
It
may
not
line
up
perfectly
with
what
a
schema
event
suggests,
but
given
that
virtual
location
is
an
extension
on
open,
actives
parts
anyway,
I
don't
think
would
be
and
I
believe
that
can
work
in
isolation
in
accordance
with
a
schema
spec
that
you.
K
A
C
Yeah
it's
more
to
doing
lightly
on
it.
It
might
just
be
our
sector-specific,
really
there's
a
huge
debate.
Argument,
route
of
minute
and
they're
made
various
licenses
that
a
lot
of
our
instructors
need,
because
they
include
music
and
there's
the
very
good
gray
beige
area
on
who's
responsible
for
it,
whether
it's
the
platform,
whether
it's
the
instructor,
whether
it
be
the
way,
there's
a
variety
of
licenses
that
need
to
be
in
place
to
stop
breach
of
copyright
right,
okay
and
depending
on
whether
the
class
is
a
two-way,
one-way
or
pre-recorded.
C
There
needs
to
be
a
disclaimer
for
health
and
safety,
because,
if
you're
doing
a
class
in
a
studio
or
a
gym,
the
venue
is
aware
of
health
and
safety
issues
to
make
sure
there's
not
bits
of
rope
lying
around,
so
you
fall
over
it.
But
if
you're
doing
it
in
your
living
room,
you
know
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
space
designed
normally
to
do
exercise.
A
A
K
P
K
A
K
A
We'll
have
to
catch
up
with
us
later
Nick.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
the
call
I
think
it's
been
an
extremely
productive
and
pretty
coherent
session,
given
the
circumstances
so
I'll
look
forward
to
catching
up
with
Nick
on
what
gets
decided.
With
regard
to
the
remaining
points,
thanks
Tim
Nick.
Is
there
anything
else
you
need
from
me?
No.
K
M
M
M
K
I
I
Yeah,
because
we've
we've
had
issues
before
where,
particularly
on
the
model
validator,
it
says
that
there
has
to
be
an
offer
given
for
a
session
series,
but
we
have
some
cases
where
people
might
have
each
scheduled
session
in
a
session
series.
It
has
a
different
price,
so
we
can't
we
there's
no
way.
We
can
know
that
there
will
be
one
applicable
price
to
all.
Yes,.
K
K
M
K
All
recommended
means
is
that
when
well
practically
what
it
means
is
when
you
run
the
validator,
it
sounds
a
little
things
saying
you
should
probably
think
about
adding
still
and
it's
something
that
if
it's
recommended
I
guess
implementers
should
think
about
doing
that
versus
not
doing
it
optionals
generally.
Just
if
your
system
supports
this
in
optional,
then
put
it
in.
If
it
doesn't,
then
don't
what's
recommended
it's
more.
If
your
system
doesn't
support
it,
you
should
think
about
having
it
as
an
you
feels.
K
Well,
I
suppose
that,
yes,
that's
a
good
point,
so
there
well
we'd
recommended
it's
more
that
you,
so
it's
when
you
support
it
or
not
versus
so
it
might
still
not
be
there.
At
least
I
mean
if
you've
implemented
it.
You
might
decide
that
it's
not
in
this
case,
so
you
weren't
included
so
recommended,
is
more
about.
If
it
was
optional,
it
will
almost
be
the
same
to
implementers.
Don't
worry
about
that?
K
K
So
I
think,
there's
probably
I
think
the
list
of
required
is
basically
everything.
That's
currently
required,
plus
attendance
event,
attendance
mode
and
everything
else
is
gone
into,
recommended,
I,
think
I,
suppose
I
suppose
the
final
question,
but
does
anyone
see
anything
I
recommended
they
think
should
be
required
or
we
could
reasonably
require
because
I
guess
a
lot
of
that?
Well,
I
can
initial
look
at
it.
I
thought!
Well,
we
can't
ask
as
a
compulsory
thing
for
it
all
of
this
stuff
to
be
in
that,
but
obviously
it's
a
nice
to
have.
K
Yeah
super
okay,
that's
great
so,
and
then
on
the
on
demand.
Events,
if
you
scroll
down
to
the
next
section
exactly
the
same
question
here,
obviously
we
haven't
got
the
event
attendance,
no
distinction,
because
we
don't
need
it
because
it's
a
it's
a
special
type
of
event
go
on
demand
event.
Is
there
anything
in
there?
It
sounds
like
we
want
to
add
to
the
recommended
or
on
demand
the
video
property
we
talked
about
earlier
or
something
is
that
yeah.
M
K
M
K
K
Q
K
Q
Q
K
K
No
totally
right,
and
that
is
that-
doesn't
match
the
spec
above
it.
So
that
example
would
then
be
wrong.
I
guess,
but
it
sounds
like
actually
what
we're
talking
about
is
if
we
were
based
where
it
says
beta
were
virtual
location
with
work
performed
and
a
video
object,
then
we're
pretty
much
there
than
wait.
So
the
example
was
kind
of
talking
about
the
same.
K
D
K
K
K
Suppose
the
question
is:
oh,
we
can
end
up
in
a
situation
where
people
are
arbitrarily
adding
content
just
to
get
the
required.
You
know
to
make
sure
that
they
pass
this
validation,
because
so
yeah
I.
Think,
though,
that
maybe
further
context.
If,
if
you
don't
have
things
in
the
required
section,
then
your
data
won't
pass
you'll
get
errors
from
the
validator
and
some
implementations
might
then,
if
they
using
the
validator
to
ingest
the
fuge,
might
throw
that
throughout
the
record.
So
I
guess
it
would
be
like
very
strictly
required.
Ie
your
feeds
invalid.
K
If
you
haven't
got
it,
but
so
so,
there's
a
risk
that
people
might
just
fill
fill
it
just
to
make
sure
that
it's
passed,
but
if,
if
we
think
that
but
I
guess
what's
the
value
of
that,
though,
so,
let's
say
that.
Let's
say
that
you
haven't
got
a
YouTube
URL,
because
it's
a
private
each
of
your
own
you're
behind
a
paywall.
K
What
are
the
fields
in
that
work
featured?
Are
you
would
then
be
of
interest
and
are
therefore
women?
Certainly
in
some
ways
like
we're
not
making
work
features
required,
but
then,
but
what?
What
property?
Within
work
featured,
are
we
making
required
such
that
it's
worth,
making
work
featured
itself
required.
K
Well,
I
suppose
it's
the
thing:
if
anyone's
got
any
ideas
from
the
use
cases
they're
aware
of
why
that
should
be
a
required
thing,
but
I'm,
let's
see
yeah
see
what
you
and
you
can't
put
there,
and
just
with
that,
that's
our
final
point.
There's
anyone
else
well,
Lewis
is
looking
through.
Does
anyone
else
have
any
other
final
concluding
points
on
this?
We
happy
with
everything
else's
as
discussed.
N
M
Yeah
from
looking
through,
it
seems
like
this
seems
like
there
is,
there's,
there's
little
difference
between
making
work
featured
required
versus
recommended.
Since
this,
since
it's
a
schema,
it
can
be
completely
unfilled
and
still
be
possible,
so
I
don't
think
it
makes
any
difference.
So
it
may
as
well
stay
recommend.
Okay,.
K
Unless
I've
missed
any
other
issues,
the
level
question
which
hopefully
is
a
quick
one
and
then
what
words
we
should
use
for
preferred
camera
on
or
interactive
is
interactive.
Other
things,
so
maybe
we'll
just
jump
into
the
levels
one
quickly,
because
that's
that's
a
new
topic
and
then
revert
to
the.
K
K
K
Know
I
can't
and
sorry
so
so
yes,
so
the
question
there
is
at
the
bottom
of
of
that
issue.
There's
a
comment
and
then
that
comment.
It
kind
of
highlights.
There's
two
two
types:
really:
there
are
the
main
two
types
of
level:
there's
beginner,
which
is
its
own
thing
and
then
separately
from
beginner
there's
everything
else
as
a
distinction.
K
K
K
Well,
I
I,
guess
I'll
see
if
we
can
get
to
consensus
on
this
really
quickly.
Basically,
what
we're
saying
is
that
if
we
agree
in
principle
that
there's
a
level
which
is
beginner
and
then
there's
other
levels
which
are
not
beginner,
which,
depending
on
what
kind
of
sport
you're
in,
could
be
complicated
or
could
be
simple,
it
could
be
as
simple
as
advanced
in
intermediate.
It
could
be
level
1,
2
&
3,
so
we
don't
try
and
create
an
equivalence
between
those
things.
K
Beginner
would
always
be
there
and
then,
depending
on
the
search
results,
you
might
have
a
mixture
of
other
levels
which
are
available
under
experience.
So
you've
got
beginner
and
experience.
There's
a
two
levels.
If
you
expand
experience,
you'd
have
level
three,
you
might
also
have
intermediate.
You
might
also
have
like
a
bunch
of
different
items,
because
they
all
mean
such
different
things,
that
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
try
and
punch
them
all
together,
and
so
what
I
wonder
for
the
sake
of
this
is
that
it
seems
that
the
online
class
is.
K
The
really
important
thing
is
that
we've
got
beginner
is
a
well-defined
thing
and
then,
and
then
everything
else
is
kind
of
people
will
know
what
they're
looking
for.
So
for
the
sake
of
getting
to
a
consensus
on
this
I
wonder
if
we
could
just
agree
that
beginner
is
beginner
and
then
other
things
are
whatever
they
are.
K
People
can
adopt,
adopt
those
separately
and
actually
even
as
I
mean
even
as
I'm
talking
this
through
I,
wonder
whether
yeah,
whether
it
might
be
easier
to
just
have
an
agreement
that
the
word
beginner
should
be
what
we
use
in
in
the
in
the
field.
That's
there,
rather
than
even
trying
to
adopt
anything
more
complicated,
given
the
timescales,
because
I
was
going
to
suggest.
Why?
Don't?
We
just
agree
that
we
just
just
take
this
as
it
is,
but
even
this
is
complicated
to
it
for
everyone
to
implement.
K
So
maybe
if
we
just
had
a
beginner
filled
with
guidance,
suggesting
that
sorry,
a
guide
and
suggesting
that
we
use
the
word
beginner
in
the
level
field
to
indicate
indicate
beginner
consistently.
So
now
that
might
just
be
enough
to
get
us
to
where
we
need
to
go
without
trying
to
dig
into
all
of
this.
Given
the
time
scales
and
they're,
not
like
yeah.
M
I
think
this
is
a
massive
mountain
to
climb
and
just
to
throw,
unfortunately,
I'm
very
sorry
about
this,
but
obviously
we've
not
been
privy
to
previous
calls
just
to
throw
a
spanner
into
the
works
on
sport.
Suite
our
use
case
currently
is
that
we
have
created
skill
levels,
our
reasonably
arbitrary
across
across
all
sports.
In
fact,
we've
actually
gone
ahead
and
done
that
for
our
clients
to
make
use
of
and
what
we've
done
is
we've
we've
created
the
classic
beginner
intermediate
advanced.
M
We
also
have
a
notion
of
mixed
they're
in
we're
in
the
the
class
they're,
the
particular
activity
as
mixed
levels
of
skill
level
and
below
beginner.
We
actually
also
have
taster
session,
which
is
a
kind
of
a
special
case
that
we've
grouped
into
our
skill
set.
So
obviously,
we've
been
saying
that
beginner
is
beginner.
K
Oh
honey
last
you
there
yeah
understood
understood,
okay.
Well,
so
it
sounds
like
what
we're
saying
is.
In
that
case,
we
are.
We
we
generally
just
just
standardizing
the
guidance
on
the
word
beginner
for
now,
for
the
sake
of
the
virtual
classes,
and
then
we
can
pick
this
whole
other
problem
up
with
probably
several
hours
of
time.
At
some
point,
I
think
it's
clever
I
mean
beginner
is
the
most
important
thing
for
a
from
a
filter
perspective.
K
I
suppose,
is
this
beginner
for
a
führer
publisher,
your
booking
system,
okay,
wonderful
right,
so
we're
losing
people
rapidly,
as
we
kind
of
conclude
the
call
now
so
as
anyone
finally
got
any
thoughts
on
this
preferred
camera
on
situation
or
what
we
could
call
that
is
interactivity
preferred
quite
the
billion
interact
is
what's
that.
What
was
it
is
interactivity
per?
Third?
Is
interactivity
preferred
yeah.
Q
K
P
M
K
K
M
K
Okay,
so
sounds
like
it's
those
two
then
and
then
I
guess.
The
question
is
from
the
schema
stuff
is
this.
Is
this?
Is
this
relevant,
so
interactivity
type
active?
It
sounds
like
these
types
of
learning
are
probably
not
designed
for
what
we're
talking
about
here.
So
then
I
guess
the
question
is:
should
we
use
interactivity
type
reuse
it
for
the
sector
kind
of
consists
of
or
shall
we
go
with
a
beta
right?
Now,
that's
a
boolean.
P
Q
Yeah
I
think,
if
you
think
of
a
lecture
series
which
is
probably
where
this
is
coming
from,
you
know
you've
got
a
TED
talk
queen
sitting
and
watching
it
all
you've
got
a
workshop.
There's
like
a
loon
call
or
you've
got
something
that's
halfway
between
where
made
there's
a
lecture
for
discussion,
a
lot
of
webinars
work,
so
you
sort
of
I
think
that's
how
I
imagine
that
that
would
be
applied.
I
don't
have
any
direct
knowledge.
It's
just
reading
between
the
lines.
K
Yeah
sure
so
I
guess
so
I
mean
what's
our
feeling
on
this?
Is
it
something
I
mean
it
doesn't
seem
like
it's
a
direct
mapping,
but
should
we
should
we
provide
guidance
to
do
that?
I,
guess
or
I
mean
the
fact
that
it
has
three
values
when
I
feel
like
like
we
were
saying
before,
preferred
and
not
preferred
a
basic
seems
sufficient
for
now
I
mean
maybe,
since
it's
just
go
something
that
has
two
values,
because
that
will
simplify
you,
X's
UX
design
for
apps
and
stuff,
where.
K
Q
K
K
K
Well,
okay,
well,
is
it
so,
as
as
simplicity
was,
was
the
guiding
force
of
this
originally?
Shall
we
stick
with
the
boolean
value?
Is
interactive,
it's
preferred
for
now
and
then,
if
it
seems
that
people
are
starting
to
put
in
the
description,
I
don't
mean
preferred
I
mean
required
at
the
edge
case,
which
I
guess
will
will
be
because
also
me.
The
reason
we
want
this
in
is
actually
for
the
filter
right.
K
So
if
you're
filtering,
you
want
to
look
for
things
that
way
where
you
want
your
video
on
you're,
going
to
look
for
those
things
that
have
interactively
preferred
and
if
you
don't
want
video
and
you'll
have
those
things
that
don't
have
interactive
people,
and
so
it
serves
the
purpose
for
the
filter
and
I
suppose
in
terms
of
just
making
sure
that
the
sessions
well
described
enough.
You
know
if
it's
required
or
optional
those
things.
K
I
guess
can
come
in
the
free
text
field
and
they
you're
very
unlikely
to
want
to
filter
on
things
that
require
you
to
have
a
webcam.
This
is
just
for
food,
because
I
guess,
if
you're
the
consumer,
you
want
to
use
your
webcam
or
not,
and
then
you
will
just
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
boolean
thing
that
you're
searching
for
I
want
to
use
my
webcam
or
I,
don't
and
I
suppose.
M
M
I'm
kind
of
suggesting
that
required
isn't
isn't
possible
in
the
current
in
the
capabilities
of
any
platform,
and
so
preferred
is
definitely
the
right.
You
know
home
to
use
and
the
record
ID
actually
is
not
something
that
we
that
anybody
is
capable
of
supporting
at
the
present
time,
so
it
shouldn't
really
be
considered
at
this
point.
Okay,.
K
K
It
thank
you
so
much
for
persevering
with
all
of
this
and
introducing
and
we'll
we'll
aim
as
soon
as
humanly
possible
to
get
this
into
a
guidance
and
into
the
validator.
So
if
you
could
just
keep
your
eyes
out
for
a
follow-up,
email
or
link
that
we
might
be
stacking
you
directly
and
if
anyone
how
you
heard
about
this
call,
which
will
just
be
this-
is
everything
we've
done.
K
We've
agreed
in
one
place
and
if
you
could
just
check
that
we
haven't
missed
anything,
we
maybe
we'll
set
a
deadline
like
midday
tomorrow
or
something
for
a
new
final.
Oh,
you
didn't
mention
that
thing.
We've
got
our
consensus
for
everything,
so
it
will
just
be
that
the
notes
weren't
correct
or
something,
and
we
can
easily
tweak
and
change
that
without
another
call.
So
if
you
see
something
you
know,
that's
not
what
you
thought.
K
The
understanding
was
on
the
call
and
please
flag
that
and
and
then,
if
we
don't
hear
anything
from
that,
little,
that
little
period
of
review,
which
is
much
much
shorter
than
usual.
It
usually
two
weeks
so
we'll
we'll
put
that
out
and
as
I
said
as
soon
as
possible
and
give
maybe
a
half
a
day
or
a
day
for
review
and
if
nothing
gets
flagged,
then
we're
all
good
to
go
so.
K
Yeah
I
will
go
through
this
and
do
that,
but
please
feel
free
if
you've
commented,
if
you
see
those
being
updated
and
again
it
doesn't
match,
then
please
do
quickly
comment
or
like.
If
any
of
the
points
you've
you
wanted
to
express
you
just
put
them
on
the
gap
issues
that
would
help
out
as
well.
There's
any
points
that
you've
you've
raised
and
been
agreed,
but
yeah
I'll
be
going
through
those
now
and
then
and
updating
those.