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An open workshop for members of the OpenActive W3C Community Group and the wider OpenActive community.
https://w3c.openactive.io/meetings/2019-04-02-booking-finalisation-workshop
A
A
Great,
so
only
we
in
this
room
also
live-streaming
to
some
people
online,
hello,
everyone
online,
hello,
guys
and
that's
because
there's
people
all
over
the
country
that
are
super
interested
in
what
we're
talking
about
today,
which
is
very,
very
exciting.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
so
far,
it's
been.
It's
been
a
journey
to
get
to
this
point.
A
I've
been
involved
in
this
for
four
years,
and
this
is
a
step
of
I-
think
something
substantial
to
say
that
if
people
just
in
this
room
collaborated
using
what
we're
talking
about
today,
I
think
we
could
see
something
quite
special
happening
and
it
will
change
the
industry
in
a
really
brilliant
way.
So
without
further
ado,
the
way
that
this
is
going
to
work
today,
it's
a
bit
of
collaborative
work.
So
we're
going
to
try
and
break
you
guys
into
groups
in
the
tables.
A
Those
groups
are,
if
you
kind
of
split
your
table
in
two,
so
the
left
in
the
right
hand,
side
some
of
the
conversations
will
be
the
left
hand
side.
Some
of
the
conversations
will
be
in
the
group
and
then
sometimes
then,
and
then
we're
going
to
bring
that
to
the
whole
room
and
the
way
we're
going
to
bring
the
information
from
your
groups.
A
The
whole
room
is
using
something
called
slide:
ooh
which
you'll
see
there
and
there
so
to
get
you
guys
ready
for
this
at
the
very
start
of
this
event,
if
you
could
go
to
star
decom
on
your
mobile
device,
this
is
how
you're
going
to
interact
and
provide
information
to
us
everything
you
put
into
side.
You
will
be
able
to
see
so,
even
if
we
don't
get
to
talk
about
the
particular
issue
that
you've
raised
through
that
today,
we'll
be
able
to
see
that
and
react
to
it
later
date
if
needed.
A
So
if
you
go
to
Safari
calm
on
your
mobile
device,
when
you've
done
that,
you'll
see
that
you
can
type
in
open
active
in
there
little
box.
That
appears.
So
if
you
type
that
in
and
then
you
will
see
our
first
poll,
so
this
is
our
commercial
director
at
the
ADI
David
I
should've
introduced
myself,
I'm
Nick,
Evans
work
and
open
active
and
what
we're
going
to
ask
you
is
commercial
director
Troy
to
book
of
omens
occult
near
his
hotel?
A
How
long
did
it
take
two
minutes
30
seconds
five
minutes,
15
minutes
30
minutes
or
he
gave
up
so
when
you've
got
in
there.
You
should,
if
you
press
magic
button
you
see
on
that
appears
some
options.
Can
you
see
that
on
your
Yap
there?
Would
you
see
that
come
up?
Those
options
have
appeared,
you
can
choose
which
one
you
think
the
answer
is
and
online
as
well.
You
guys
that's
on
this
side
of
your
screen.
A
So
if
you
click
on
one
of
the
options
here
and
press
the
button,
then
you
can
vote
so
you
can
see
at
the
top
right
hand
corner
here.
26
people
voted
so
far.
Let's
see
if
we
can
get
more
people
in
the
room.
30,
that's
half
the
room,
some
guys
online
I've
got
40
so
far,
and
the
great
thing
is,
if
you're
in
a
small
group,
when
you
put
your
information
into
this,
you
can
do
that
through
your
group
as
well.
A
A
Okay,
so
should
we
show
the
results?
What
do
people
think
he
gave
up
excellent
and
the
right
answer
is
he
gave
up
10
guys
so
a
couple
more
because
we'll
get
quicker.
The
first
time
always
takes
a
bit
of
time.
So
the
next
question,
if
we
go
to
the
next
poll,
is
what's
the
estimated
economic
benefit
of
open
data,
which
is
what
we're
talking
about
today
in
transport.
A
A
Broke
15
hilly
where
there's
two
others
from
before
corn.
You
guys
online
this
side
there
we
go
perfect,
51,
okay,
me
and
the
results
were
and
again
absolutely
right.
The
answer
is
exactly
130
million.
You
might
have
seen
these
slides
before
and
the
next
question
and
the
final
question
see
if
we
can
get
that
256
really
quickly
maximum
engagement,
what
percentage
of
state-funded
primary
schools
are
engaged
in
changed
for
life?
A
A
A
Brilliant,
so
that's
that
is
so
the
agenda
for
today
this
is
the
introductory
section.
So
what
we're
gonna
do
is
we're
going
to
explain
open
data
just
to
make
sure
that
anybody
who
hasn't
already
had
this
kind
of
introduction
to
what
this
is
can
catch
up,
if
maybe
you've
heard
about
it
through
other
people.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
hear
it
for
the
first
time
using
richard
Norris,
who
is
the
best
person
to
present
this
information
to
you
and
then,
after
that,
we're
going
to
talk
about
booking.
Just
a
summary
of
that.
So
that's.
A
Why
we're
here
today,
obviously
in
the
the
main
topic
of
the
conversation,
so
we're
going
to
cover
that
information,
so
you've
got
an
idea
of
exactly
what
this
looks
like.
So
you
can
picture
it
after
that,
we're
going
to
break
for
lunch,
so
half
hour
lunch
break
and
then
we're
going
to
do
this
booking
finalization
part
one
and
two
we're
going
to
cover
various
topics
of
booking,
just
to
make
sure
that
everybody
in
the
room
is
comfortable
with
what
we're
doing
how
it's
working
understands
the
opportunity.
A
This
presents
and
also
any
limitations
that
are,
that
we've
kind
of
traded
off
as
we've
gone
through
that
process
and
the
tea
break
in
between
that.
So
hopefully
that'll
give
you
an
opportunity
to
relax
because
there's
quite
a
lot
to
take
in
and
and
then
we're
gonna
we're
going
to
close
that
half-past
four
and
during
lunch.
The
lunches,
if
you
haven't
already
been
in
here,
served
upstairs
as
a
mezzanine
floor
and
you
can
go
up
there
in
the
break
as
well
so
good
chance
to
chat
and
get
to
know
people
in
this
network.
A
B
So
yeah
for
those
of
you
who
I
haven't
met
before
my
name
is
Izzy
I'm,
a
data
and
innovation
manager
at
Sport,
England
and
I.
Look
after
open
active
from
outside.
So
to
give
you
a
bit
of
background
on
who
Sport
England
is
just
in
case,
you
haven't
come
across
us
before
we
are
the
kind
of
government's
delivery
agent
for
sport
and
physical
activity
in
England,
and
our
vision
is
that
everyone
in
England,
no
matter
who
they
are,
what
their
background
their
age,
their
level
of
ability,
was
able
to
engage
in
sport
and
physical
activity.
B
So
it's
really
important
to
us
that
this
is
really
kind
of
open
agenda
and
why?
What
is
the
problem
that
we're
facing
at
the
moment?
So
only
62%
of
people
get
their
recommended
150
minutes
a
week
of
moderate-intensity
exercise,
so
there's
a
huge
gap
in
those
inactive
or
fairly
active,
and
we
say
people
who
could
be
doing
more
and
who
could
be
getting
more
active.
B
So
you
might
have
heard
of
this
girl.
Can
that's
our
campaign
about
getting
more
women
active,
because
we
know
that
women
find
it
more
difficult
to
have
faced
more
barriers
than
others
to
get
active?
So
we
know
that
women
are
kind
of
faced
a
lot
of
emotional
barriers,
but
there
are
also
practical
barriers
and
those
practical
barriers
include
finding
the
information
online,
because
it's
really
hard
to
find
that
information
locally
to
find
relevant
activities
to
know
whether
something
is
going
to
be
right
for
you
and
as
consumer
expectations
are
changing.
B
Women
need
to
see
more
and
different
things
to
make
them
feel
like
they
can
take
part
in
something.
We
can
see
that
more
and
more
consumers
are
expecting
people
to
understand
their
needs
up
front.
They
don't
want
to
have
to
work
hard
to
find
information,
that's
relevant
to
them.
They
want
it
there
that
touch
their
fingertips
now,
sometimes
I
think
as
a
sector
we
get
accused
of
delivering
this
experience
not
ideal.
B
Some
might
say
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
in
this
room
are
working
really
hard
to
make
that
better
and
make
that
user
experience
much
more
of
a
straightforward,
easy
process
to
really
engage
better
with
your
customers.
But
this
is
something
where
opens
ADA
can
really
help
you
to
not
have
to
worry
about
giving
this
not
ideal.
Experience
that
we
might
see
here.
I,
think.
The
other
thing
to
note
is
that
consumers
now
expect
will
give
you
feedback
in
this
kind
of
way
on
Twitter
and
get
quite
a
lot
of
likes.
B
You
might
see
down
there
as
well
at
supporting
them.
Open
data
also
fits
in
to
kind
of
a
wider
vision
we
have
so
we
think
that
our
wider
ambition
is
to
help
modernize
our
sector
and
through
the
power
of
data
innovation.
We
think
that
that
can
really
help
get
people
active.
So
how
are
we
going
to
do
this?
We
want
easy
to
access
information.
That's
where
open
data
fits
into
this,
but
we
also
think
that
we
as
a
sector
can
provide
better
personalized
experiences,
new
innovative
solutions
and
have
that
better,
real-time
feedback
response
to
consumers.
B
That
includes
online
booking
and
services,
and
we
also
think
there
could
be
better
rewards
and
incentives
and
better
tailored
relevant
offers
more
collaborative
ways
of
working,
so
I
support,
England
and
part
of
what
we
see
is
kind
of
developing
as
a
sector.
This
shared
ambition
and
commitment
to
that
ambition,
building
the
essential
infrastructure
of
which
open
data
really
forms
a
key
building
block.
B
We
want
to
grow
our
innovations
ecosystem,
whether
that's
working
with
startups
many
of
humor
in
the
room
today
or
you
know,
enabling
the
more
established
businesses
to
do
some
innovation
themselves
and
really
that
involves
embedding
a
digital
mindset.
So
thinking
more
digitally
thinking,
digital
first
and
I
think
what
key
thing
we
also
need
to
deliver
as
a
sector
as
open
active
is
really
showing
the
value
and
the
return
on
investment.
B
We
know
a
lot
of
you
put
a
lot
of
hard
work
into
this
initiative
and
I
can
thank
you
so
much
for
that
here
and
we
think
there's
more
to
come
and
that
you
will
start
to
see
the
fruits
of
your
labor
of
the
next
kind
of
six
months
to
a
year.
But
before
we
kind
of
run,
let's
make
sure
we
can
walk,
let's
remind
ourselves
of
who
that
consumer
is,
why
we're
delivering
open
active
that
we
can
provide
a
better
service
to
them
today,
Thanks.
A
Richard
explains
the
the
opendata
detail,
I
thought,
if
you
guys
haven't
really
watched
this.
We
give
you
an
opportunity
to
do
this
in
there
in
cinematic,
not
quite
as
it's
stereo,
but
it's
almost
there,
so
we're
just
gonna
give
you
the
opportunity
to
watch
this
again
if
you
haven't
already
for
those
online.
This
is
a
bit
of
our
website.
If
you
want
to
explain
what
we're
talking
about
today
to
anybody,
we
recommend
just
showing
them
this
open.
C
C
C
This
means
that
websites
like
last
minute,
comm,
Skyscanner
and
Expedia,
get
up-to-date
and
accurate
information
about
flights
and
hotels
from
most
providers
easily.
These
services
offer
variety
and
convenience
to
consumers
and,
as
a
result,
that
travel
providers
reach
way
more
customers
open
active
wants
to
do
the
same
for
our
industry.
C
Our
mission
is
to
help
more
people,
get
active,
we're
a
community
of
organizations
and
individuals
backed
by
the
government
working
together
to
help
promote
the
benefits
of
open
data
and
help
create
common
standards
so
that
we're
all
speaking
the
same
language
to
be
clear,
open
data
means
information
like
timings,
prices,
location,
availability,
descriptions
and
images.
Details
are
probably
already
public,
not
personal
information
about
your
customers
sounds
great,
but
what
does
it
all
look
like?
Well,
you
may
already
use
a
booking
system
to
list
your
activities
online.
C
Innovators
and
businesses
can
use
your
data
in
amazing
ways
like
featuring
your
activities
and
facilities
in
apps
and
websites
that
attract
millions
of
users
or
through
communities
and
services
that
engage
local
people,
but
also
in
new
incredible
ways
that
we
can't
imagine
yet
using
your
data
that
automatically
kept
up
to
date.
Without
any
extra
effort
from
you.
C
A
Great
right
that
tip
box
at
the
end
is
really
significant.
You'll
see
why
a
little
bit
later
on,
not
just
a
pretty
tick
box
before
we
continue
and
I
introduced
up
Richard.
Could
you
guys
at
the
back
please
come
and
sit
down
at
the
front?
I'm
sorry
that
you're
about
to
stand
just
there,
but
be
great
to
get
you
involved?
There's
a
there's
at
least
four
seats
around
here.
A
D
Hello,
everybody
it's
great
to
see
so
many
of
you
here
today
as
a
Nick
said
like
this
is
a
really
exciting
moment.
We
can
bring
it
all
together
and
and
push
this
initiative
on
a
bit
further,
so
I
just
want
to
give
a
bit
of
a
scene.
Setting
of
what
open
active
actually
is
because
I
think
some
of
you
new
at
this
and
others.
Perhaps
doesn't
it
said
this-
would
it's
kind
of
good
kind
of
starting
point
really
and
open?
D
Active
really
is
all
about
behavior
change,
which
is
a
really
difficult
challenge
that
we
all
think
about
quite
a
lot
and
we
tend
to
refer
to
a
model
that
supporting
your
news
called
the
the
Kombi
model
and
it
basically
helps
you
understand,
behavior
change.
If
you
want
to
get
somebody
to
be
more
physically
active
on
a
regular
basis,
there's
three
different
levers
that
we
think
you
should
be
thinking
about.
There's
the
capability
of
that
individual.
So
are
they
physically
able
to
take
part
in
activity?
Are
they
are
they
the
right
age?
D
Are
they
the
right
gender?
Can
it
can
they
actually
do
it?
There's
the
opportunity
so
does
the
opportunity
exists
for
them
to
get
active,
is
their
the
the
Saturn
or
the
class
or
the
running
route
or
the
instructor
does
is?
Is
there
something
they
can
actually
do?
That's
near
the
house
they
can
that
you
can
get
to,
and
is
that
individual
being
motivated
in
the
right
way
to
take
part
in
activity,
so
is
the?
D
Is
the
activity
being
displayed
to
them
in
a
way
that
makes
them
feel
like
it's
for
them
like
there's
other
people
like
them
that
are
taking
part
in
activities?
The
image
right
is
the
description
right.
Are
you
helping
them
think
that
it's
something
they
really
want
to
do?
Are
you
inspiring
them
to
take
part
activity,
and
if
you
don't
address
each
of
those
three
levers,
you
can't
really
change
somebody's
behavior,
so
you
can't
really
make
somebody
or
help
somebody
become
more
physically,
active
and
I.
D
Guess
the
focus
for
open,
active,
really
it's
it's
the
glue
between
the
opportunity
and
them
and
the
motivation
and
open
data
is
the
way
that
we
think
we
can.
We
can.
We
can
bridge
that
gap,
so
open
data
is
data
that
anybody
can
access
use
or
share.
So
putting
your
time
tables
online
in
a
format
that
people
can
get
to
with
a
license
that
says
they
can
use
that
data.
They
can
use
that
information
without
having
to
ask
your
permission.
D
That's
really
the
kind
of
core
of
what
open
active
is
about
in
order
to
bridge
that
gap
between
the
opportunity.
So
the
thing
that
that
you
use
activity
providers
deliver
day-in,
day-out
and
the
kinds
of
services,
the
kinds
of
apps
or
products
that
can
motivate
people
more
effectively
than
price
has
been
possible
before
so.
Open
data
is,
is
the
kind
of
plumbing
between
these
two
things
so
getting
the
timetables,
from-from
item
providers
like
GL,
or
table
tennis
England
in
a
format
in
a
structure
through
a
mechanism
that
means
those
those
products
and
services.
D
On
the
right
hand,
side
can
start
using
that
information
to
help
more
people
get
active
and
the
reason
why
we
think
openness
is
kind
of
fundamental
to
it
and
to
making
this
work
well
is
because
it
it
reduces
the
barrier
for
those
innovators
for
those
services.
Looking
to
create
exciting
things
that
get
people
active
and
it,
and
it
means
that
you
can
have
a
whole
range
of
different
things
that
can
be
built.
So
it's
not
all
about
commercial
aggregators,
although
they
have
a
great
role
to
play
in
this
in
this
ecosystem.
D
There,
are
use
cases
like
social
prescribing,
employee
well-being,
insurance,
there's
a
almost
limitless
number
of
ways
in
which
that
information
can
get
used
to
appeal
to
a
different
kind
of
person.
So
it's
not
about
creating
a
one-size-fits-all
activity.
Finder,
that's
going
to
work
for
everybody,
it's
about
creating
the
conditions
in
which
lots
of
things
can
be
created
that
can
be
tailored
to
a
specific
audience,
specific
demographic
and
motivate
those
people
in
different
ways,
because
we
know
that
in
order
to
change
behavior,
there
isn't
a
one-size-fits-all
solution.
D
That's
going
to
work
for
everybody,
so
our
open
data
is
basically
taking
the
timetables
from
that
from
those
organizations
on
the
left-hand
side
and
helping
those
organizations
on
the
right-hand
side
use
it
and
then
book
ability,
which
is
why
you're
all
here
today,
is
to
then
help
help
close
the
gap
for
that
for
that
user.
Between
between
the
moat,
between
the
thing
that
they're
looking
at
and
that
tivity
that
they
want
to
take
part
in.
D
An
open
data
is,
is
I
mean
it's
a
fairly
new
concept,
I
guess
for
many
in
the
room,
but
it's
in
other
sectors.
It's
it's
a
concept,
that's
already
yielding
lots
of
value
for
lots
of
different
people
and
an
example
that
we
like
to
cite
is
the
one
that
Nick
had
in
the
poll
early
this
morning,
which
is
transport
so
in
London
Transport
for
London.
He
you
know
many
of
you
will
have
used
the
tube
or
the
bus
to
get
here
today.
Transports
London
run
that
infrastructure.
That's
that's
that
that's
their
focus
right.
D
It's
making
making
those
trains
type
arrive
on
time,
making
that
system
work
smoothly,
but
they
published
their
timetables.
They
publish
the
availability
that
the
live
tracking
of
that
of
that
travel
infrastructure
as
open
data,
so
the
innovators
can
start
using
it
and
there's
a
recent
report
into
the
the
value
of
that
that's
been
created
for
the
city
as
a
whole
and
it's
130
million
pounds
per
year
and
that's
value
in
efficiency.
D
D
And
in
the
context
of
open
data,
open
active,
the
big
use
case
that
we've
got
at
the
moment
is
change
for
life
and
I.
Think
many
of
you
will
be
aware
that
that
that
they've
launched
activity
find
they're
they're
looking
to
do
a
big
push
over
the
summer.
On
that,
just
give
you
a
sense
of
the
scale
of
change
for
life.
They've
got
four
million
people
signed
up
to
that
campaign,
so
it
it's
a
brand
that
people
recognize
it's
a
place
that
people
go
to
to
find
things
to
do
for
their
kids
over
the
summer.
D
But
there
are
more
things
like
a
change
for
life
that
that
are
going
to
start
appearing
this
year.
So
this
girl
can
there
are
other
day
teasers
and
I
think
the
few
of
them
in
the
room
that
would
like
to
talk
to
that
Timothy
providers
in
the
room
they're
going
to
start
using
this
data
in
exciting
ways
over
the
year.
D
And
just
to
be
really
clear
on
the
open
data
side
about
what
gets
published
it's
it's,
it's
information,
it's
data,
that's
that's
usually
on
as
his
activity
providers
website
already.
So
it's
it's
essentially
what
will
go
into
your
time
table
it's!
It's
the
description
of
that
activity.
It's
the
name
of
activity!
It's
the
image
that
helps!
You
understand
what
that
activity
is,
and
it's
you
know
it's
data
about
events
or
or
sessions
or
courses.
D
A
We
get
into
the
booking
side
because
there's
a
real
clean
separation
between
open
data
and
book
ability
just
to
make
that
really
really
clear.
This
is
the
first
step
step.
One
is
open
data
step.
Two
is
book
ability
just
as
an
opportunity
for
everyone
in
the
room
to
really
just
get
into
this,
this
particular
topic
and
if
there's
any
other
questions
that
you
have
around
this,
that
you've
been
thinking
about
for
a
while,
maybe
or
something
that
you've
just
just
has
come
to
you
while
Richard's
been
talking,
it'd
be
great
to
surface
those
here.
A
So
what
we'd
love
to
do
is
for
those
in
the
room,
if
you
could
get
on
in
your
tables
into
a
group
on
the
left
and
the
right
hand
side
of
the
tables,
as
we
explained
before
so
a
small
group
of
three
or
four.
So
that's
one
on
the
left
and
one
on
the
right
of
the
tables,
and
just
in
that
group
talk
through
open
data.
So
what
do
you
think
about
it
is
that
is
that
good?
Is
that
a
good
thing?
Are
there
any
challenges
that
you
see?
A
Is
there
any
questions
that
you
have
about
it
that
you
would
like
answered
here
and
the
answer
might
be?
No,
it's
great
and
you're
all
going
to
say
yet:
live
open
data
and
it's
ding-ding-ding
and
then
that's
brilliant.
That's
the
best
outcome.
We
can
go
to
lunch
early
or
it
might
be
that
there's
anyone
in
there
in
the
groups
that
says
actually
I'm,
not
really
sure
and
in
your
group.
You
might
solve
that
problem
because
there's
enough
people
here
who
have
kind
of
gone
through
this
journey
already.
A
But
if
there's
a
challenge
like
I
said,
this
is
a
good
time
to
talk
about
that
before
we
get
into
the
step
two,
because
there's
no
point
doing
step
two
until
what
happened
with
step,
one
right
so
yeah.
If
I
could
ask
you
now
we're
going
to
just
take
five
minutes
in
your
groups
online,
there's
a
that
you're
in
a
room
online
that
you
can
hear
yeah.
A
So
if
you
you
get,
if
you
hit
that
link
in
the
top
corner
and
join
one
of
the
online
rooms,
you
can
do
the
same
thing
at
the
same
conversation
as
what's
happening
in
the
room
and
then
we'll
service
up
those
questions.
So,
at
the
end
of
those
five
minutes,
what
we'd
love
you
to
do
is
go
on
slide.
Ooh
and
just
put
your
questions
in
just
I.
Do
might
be
there's
none,
which
is
great.
There
might
be
some
and
that's
also
fine.
So
please,
five
minutes
of
you.
Kiddin
Thanks,.
A
Thank
you
so
much
so
we've
actually
got
some
questions.
You
can
see
them
just
over
there
on
the
screen
and
so
there's
only
four,
which
is
great.
So
we
can
move
a
bit
quicker
through
this
content
and
and
so
the
first
one
we
thought
we
would
talk
about
is
the
is
the
top
one
on
this
list
here.
So
if
you
can
see
that
what
data
evidence
is
there
from
early
adopters,
around
increased
uptake
utilization
after
opening
up
data,
Richard.
D
So
the
short
answer
this
is,
we
don't
actually
have
any
evidence.
Yet
on
that
question
and
the
reason
why
is
this,
it's
quite
early
days
still
to
have
the
evidence
base
that
we
we
can
give
you
a
clear
answer.
That's
partly
why
public
health
England
are
really
keen
on
using
booking
as
part
of
change
for
life,
so
it's
kind
of
a
non-commercial
use
case
for
booking
and
the
reason
why
they're,
particularly
interested
in
booking
is
to
help
them
track
the
effect
effectiveness
of
that
campaign
in
a
way
that
they've
not
been
able
to
previously.
D
We
do
know
that
there
are.
You
know
some
innovators
in
the
room
that
have
evidence
on
on
a
third-party
data
user
increase
bookings,
but
that's
not
through
open
data.
So
it's
not
something
that
we've
kind
of
pushed
through
open
active.
So
hopefully
that
kind
of
semi
answers
the
question
no
well,
so
that
we
don't
we
don't
have
that
evidence.
Yes,.
D
So,
there's
over
twenty
different
publishers
and
there's
about
a
hundred
seventy
thousand
sessions
per
month.
In
that
dataset,
we
we
took
a
decision
as
a
program
initially
to
focus
on
getting
that
data
published
before
we
really
started
engaging
the
kind
of
data
user
community.
So
if
you
think
of
the
two
sides
of
the
ecosystem,
we
focused
more
initially
on
building
that
infrastructure
getting
out
there,
so
people
could
use
it,
and
the
focus
now
is
very
much
on
increasing
the
use
of
that
data
and
booking.
As
part
of
that.
E
B
So
absolutely
we
need
to
prove
that
value.
That's
an
absolute
must
for
this
round
of
open
active
from
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
through.
This
is
small,
which
we
won't
talk
about
today,
because
this
is
focused
on
the
detailed
specifications
for
looking
but
part
of
this
phase
of
open
active
that
we're
moving
into
is
focused
on
specific
test
and
LAN
projects
where
we
can
start
to
demonstrate
that
value
back
so
can
we
prove
that
more
people
have
turned
up
to
sessions
coming
prove
that
we're
reaching
different
kinds
of
people?
B
A
Some
people
you
haven't,
couldn't
make
it
today,
unfortunately,
but
but
you
know,
for
example,
have
said
to
us:
oh
yeah,
we're
using
the
data,
but
then
when
we
say
we
will
come
into
room
and
talk
about
the
value
you're
getting
they're,
not
so
interested
in
doing
that.
So,
but
that's
that's
kind
of
okay,
though,
because
the
point
of
open
data
is
that
we
let
people
innovate
at
different
rates,
and
this
is
very
early
in
that
journey
and
so
long
story
short.
A
Yeah,
hello,
I'm,
Lee,
dance
I'm,
the
director
of
advisor
at
the
ODI,
so
I'll
try
and
fill
this
question
so
at
the
ODI,
we've
worked
in
lots
of
different
sectors,
so
we've
worked
in
engineering,
agriculture,
pharmaceuticals,
quite
broadly
in
terms
of
our
work
in
the
travel
sector.
We
haven't
worked
on
opening
up
airline
data,
but
we
have
worked
with
the
Department
of
Transport,
looking
at
increasing
access
to
things
like
bus
timetables,
driving
innovation
in
airline
around
use
of
other
types
of
data,
so,
for
example,
how
people
move
through
airports
so
hopefully
that
answers
that
question.
A
Okay
great,
how
do
we
get
more
traction
through
affiliates,
I
graters
in
receiving
bookings?
I
think
this
might
be
a
good
one
to
pick
up
actually
in
the
next
session,
around
bookings.
Dean
I!
Think.
Yes,
let's
cover
that
in
the
next
session
and
how
do
we
get
more
organizations
to
pull
British
triathalons
data?
E
It's
more
from
the
other
side,
in
terms
of
once
we
start
to
bring
this
data
in
and
start
to
promote
it
from
a
local
authority's
perspective.
If
we're
advertising
a
session
for
young
people
via
our
our
websites,
what
assurances
can
we
give
the
residents?
We
it's
more
to
bring
it
to
the
attention
of
the
other
local
authorities
that
when
it's
authorized
on
your
website,
the
consumer,
the
resident
doesn't
see
the
provider
behind
it.
They
just
see
your
face
in
terms
of
minds:
Manchester
City
Council.
So
as
a
moment
you
were
sending
your
child
there.
E
D
Probably
helped
England
obviously
are
responsible
for
making
sure
that
activities
that
they
display
in
change
for
life
meet
those
safeguarding
requirements
because
they
kind
of
have
that
duty
of
care
right.
If
they're,
if
people
fight
using
that
service
to
find
activities,
then
it's
they're
responsible
to
make
sure
that
that's
the
things
they're
finding
are
safe.
So
they
don't
just
hate
like
a
raw
feed
of
all
the
days
that
have
been
published
and
put
that
into
change
for
life.
D
F
D
Because
so,
if
you're
an
activity
provider
and
you
publish
your
timetable
open
they,
so
you
set
up
your
open
data
feed
yeah.
You
put
a
license
on
that.
That
says
that
anybody
can
come
along
and
and
use
that
data.
So
people
don't
need
to
ask
permission
to
use
it
and
and
yeah
you
will
get
a
whole
load
of
different
people
that
can
use
that
data,
and
that's
the
same
in
in
transport.
Anybody
can
use
that.
There's
those
bus
timetables
to
create
what
they
want.
D
The
the
open
data
feed
doesn't
necessarily
isn't
necessarily
the
thing
that
that
allows
them
to
do
that.
Well,
doesn't
allow
them
to
that
because
they
concur.
They
can
ultimately
get
that
information
through
slightly
more
kind
of
package
means
if
they
want
to
create
something.
Something
like
that.
But
really
again,
the
information
is.
Information
is
already
on
the
web,
so
there's
kind
of
limit
to
what
they
can
do
in
it.
A
It's
probably
also
as
saying
that
the
the
license
the
open
data
lies.
The
specifics
specifically
prohibits
people
impersonating,
the
publisher,
that's
what
it
does
do
it
gives
you
that
protection.
So,
for
example,
if
your
Fusion
lifestyle,
you
can't
pretend
to
be
Fusion
lifestyle
and
public
and
have
time
tables
up
there
so
and
if
there's
reputational
damage
to
do
with
the
way
that
they're
presenting
that
data
or
anything
to
do
with
that,
that
would
really
be
on
the
you
know
that
data
user.
So
if
it's
changed
fly
for
example,
that
do
it
wrong.
D
Other
two
things
I'd
add
to
that
are
again.
If
you
look
at
travel,
you
have
a
lot
of
apps
on
the
App
Store
that
you
use
that
bus
timetable
data
in
different
ways
and
the
ones
that
gain
an
audience
are
the
ones
that
that
work.
Well,
that
are
trustworthy
that
are
safe
and
they
kind
of
rise
to
the
top
of
the
rankings
and
they're
the
things
that
people
tend
to
see
the
ones
that
in
trouble
it's
not
that
they
use
it
in
a
kind
of
dangerous
way.
It's
that
they
should
the
the
user.
D
Experience
might
not
be
very
good.
They
tend
to
kind
of
sink
to
the
bottom
of
the
rankings
and
you
don't
tend
to
see
them
so
from
the
open
data.
Size
I
think
that's.
That
would
be
what
we'd
expect
to
see
in
this
sector.
There
is
control
over
who
can
do
bookings
in
the
economy
bookings.
So
that's
that
it's
not
like
a
free-for-all
and
anybody's
in
the
data
in
a
bubble
way
that
control
should
still
exist
with
the
activity
provider.
D
People
that
have
signed
up
to
change
for
life,
where
does
that
number
come
from
so
that
is
directly
from
public
health
England.
That's
the
that's!
The
number
people
that
engage
in
the
campaign
as
a
whole,
so
change
for
life
isn't
just
about
physical
activity.
It's
about
healthy
eating
habits
and
and
a
whole
raft
of
other
things.
So
that's
the
that's.
The
total
pot
of
people
that
are
engaged
in
change
for
life
than
just
their
TV
find
her
and
that's
come
directly
from
public
health.
England
great.
D
So
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
we
open
literacy.
We
just
we
describe
data
as
existing
on
a
spectrum
from
closed
to
shared,
to
open
and
there's,
obviously
a
very
valid
case
for
why
you
would
not
want
to
open
up
things
like
your
employee
records
or
your
contracts
or
information.
That's
commercially
sensitive,
so
that
information
should
usually
sit
at
that
kind
of
closed
end
of
the
spectrum,
and
you
should
have
kind
of
tight
controls
around
who
who
can
access
that,
and
it
should
probably
be
people
within
your
organization.
D
A
Booking
systems
even
already
have
or
working
on
having
that
filtering
in
place,
so
we
do
are.
We
are
aware
of
particular
circumstances
where
there
are
there's
a
villa
that
can
only
be
booked
by
a
particularly
employees
of
an
organization.
You
always
didn't
want
that
villa
to
be
available
for
the
public
and
open
data,
and
so
some
systems
are
working
on
that
filtering
and
it's
actually
prerequisite
before
publishers
go
live,
making
sure
that
some
of
that
private
data
isn't
isn't
included.
A
Obviously,
generally
speaking,
anything
you
would
advertise
on
a
poster
or
in
public
or
on
time
tables
in
your
leisure
center.
You'd
want
to
be
included
in
the
feed,
because
you're
getting
more
people
to
to
see
that
and
get
more
people
active.
As
a
result,
we
wouldn't
suggest
it
just
the
cleaning
schedule
or
cleaning
rota
from
your
system
being
in
there,
for
example.
A
D
Those
those
I
graters
exist,
so
tom
is
in
the
room
who
has
worked
with
public
health
England
on
on
their
activity,
finder
component,
and
there
are
other
organizations
that
are
doing
similar
things
of
those
things
to
exist,
yeah.
So
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
room
that
can
help
you
with
that
question.
If
you
find
him
at
lunch,.
A
A
D
Non-Technical
commercial
barriers
to
open
at
sessions,
I
mean
I,
think
the
biggest
barrier
we
can
see
is
that
we
want
to
help
everybody
in
this
room
overcome.
Is
that
discussion
about
what
the
commercial
relationship
should
look
like
in
its
making
sure
that
you,
as
the
activity
provider,
can
find
the
kinds
of
things
that
you
want
to
enable
booking
with,
and
that
conversation
can
happen.
So
we've
been
speaking
to
a
couple
of
activity
riders
about
putting
together
an
open
call
to
facilitate
that.
D
D
D
D
In
order
to
do
that,
and
we
think
if
you
crack
those
first
two
things
so
getting
a
better
consumer
experience,
more
innovation
that
should
ultimately
make
your
lives
better
for
the
activity
providers,
so
those
two
things
should
lead
to
activity
providers
reaching
more
customers
which,
in
different
customers
feeling
quiet
times
of
the
day.
So
you
know
things
like
social
prescribing.
D
So
that's
why
we're
focusing
on
booking-
and
this
hopefully
will
answer
your
your
earlier
question
about
the
distinction
between
these
two
things.
So
the
first
step
for
most
activity,
writers
is
to
publish
the
timetables
openly
and
then
the
second
step
is
to
enable
booking
on
those
activities.
That's
that's
the
direction
that
we're
going
in.
D
You
can
publish
your
timetables
openly.
I
need
you
can
choose
not
to
enable
booking
if
you
want
to
so
there's
a
two
step
process
and
you
can
and
you
have
control
over
whether
you
enable
booking
and
who
you
and
evil
it
with
and
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
how
that
might
look
from
a
user
perspective.
D
So
this
is
a
screenshot
of
how
the
eight,
if
all
you've
done,
is
published
the
timetable,
data
openly
and
that's
getting
used
by
a
third
party.
This
is
how
it
would
look
to
a
to
a
to
a
user,
so
they
might
key
in
their
their
postcode.
They'll
find
that
TV
that
they're
interested
in
and
there's
all
that
information
on
that
activity
and
that
red
box
would
say
something
like
more
info.
D
What
like
what
that
user
would
need
to
do
then
is
is
click
on
that
more
info
link.
They
would
then
be
redirected
to
the
activity
providers
website
in
order
to
book
that
accession
that
book
vac
tivity
and
confirm
their
place.
So
it
works.
It's
not
seamless,
so
there's
a
bit
of
friction
there
for
the
customer.
D
So
if
you
were
to
enable
booking
the
way
that
would
look
then
is
instead
of
seeing
what
info
they
would
see
book
now
and
that
consumer
could
click
on
that
link
and
they'd
be
taken
to
a
guest
checkout
and
they
could
fill
in
the
details
of
activity
and
they
don't
really
need
to
go
anywhere
else.
They've
got
everything
they
need
to
to
go
to
activity.
They
know
that
that
place
has
been
reserved
and
you're.
D
D
And
the
final
final
point
we
want
to
make
here
is
that
that
all
this
work
is
for
all
of
you.
So
this
is
this
with
Tim
berners-lee
at
the
opening
ceremony
of
the
Olympics
tweeting
out
that
this
is
for
everyone.
That's
what
the
work
of
open
active
is
is
for
everybody
in
this
room
and
say
we're
hugely
appreciative
of
all
the
input
that
that
those
people
have
been
actively
engaged
in
this
process.
All
the
input
that
you
put
into
this
so
far,
that's
what's
helping
us
get
to
where
we
are.
D
There
are
more
of
you
that
we
want
to
feed
into
this,
and
so
thank
you
for
everybody
who
has
come
here
today.
Please
see
this
as
an
opportunity
to
to
provide
that
feedback
and
help
us
is
better
because,
ultimately,
it's
all
for
you
and
just
I
guess
to
have
one
of
you
sort
of
talk
about
why
you've
got
engaged
in
this
and
and
and
and
where
you
see
this,
going
at
lunch
lights
asked
Sean
from
Sean
Maguire
from
legend
that
come
up
in
circular
words.
H
So
for
me,
the
the
first
bit
of
noise
that
I've
been
generating
is
let's
try
not
call
it
open
data,
let's
instead
call
it
open
opportunities
and
open
bookings,
because
it's
got
nothing
to
do
with
personal
data
and
with
last
year's
focus
on
GDP
our
that
is,
of
course,
an
alarm
that
immediately
goes
off
and
for
us
to
make
this
really
effective.
It's
to
ensure
that
all
operators
are
comfortable
and
an
opt-in,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
actually
we
got
involved
is
to
facilitate
that.
So
why?
Why
did
we
get
involved
as
a
vendor?
H
Firstly,
we
feel
it
was
compelling
just
to
support
the
industry,
but
also
especially
in
front
of
key
stakeholders:
government
Sport,
England,
public
health,
England
and
others.
You
know
too
often
we
hear
those
lame
expressions
about
where
you
know
behind,
on
technology
etc
and
I
I
simply
totally
disagree.
H
So
this
could
be,
in
my
view,
one
of
the
most
important
projects
that
we've
delivered
as
an
industry.
I
really
mean
that
as
consumers
ie
the
aggregators
and
the
third-party
innovators,
we
have
to
seize
the
opportunity
to
open
up
these
new
channels
for
exercise
and
already
based
on
what
we're,
seeing
through
the
innovator
labs
and
through
the
number
of
parties
that
are
innovating.
There's.
No
doubt
that
there's
great
demand
for
that,
but
as
providers
we've
got
to
engaged
with
those
innovators,
it's
a
key
thing
for
me
and
I
feel
that
we've
got
two
choices.
H
H
H
With
this
girl
can
campaign,
it
was
a
real
pity
that
operators
simply
didn't
know
that
the
campaign
was
about
to
be
launched
and
hence
couldn't
incorporate
it
into
their
marketing
plans
into
their
in
facility
communications,
but
also
couldn't
make
use
of
it
in
terms
of
maximizing
those
who
showed
interest
through
this
girl.
This
girl
can
campaign
this
year
is
different.
We've
got
public
health,
England,
already
preparing
and
all
of
us
Tom
at
Gladstone
and
I
and
others
in
the
industry.
H
Thinking
about
ways
that
we
can
support
the
change
for
life
2019,
which
starts
at
the
end
of
May
with
preparations
but
gets
into
full
swing
in
summer.
There's
millions
of
pounds
going
into
it.
There's
two
things
we
want
to
achieve
through
it.
One
is:
we
want
to
drive
the
maximum
number
of
visitors
into
the
centres,
but
also
we
want
to
know
who's
responded
so
that
we
can
actually
evidence
and
encourage
yet
more
investment
in
future
through
the
evidence
based
on
how
many
people
have
responded.