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From YouTube: OpenActive W3C Community Group Meeting / 2017-04-12
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A public hangout for members of the OpenActive W3C Community Group.
Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-openactive/2017Apr/0001.html
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A
So
hello,
everybody
welcome
to
our
latest
community
hangout
I
think
you've
all
been
to
one
of
these
before,
with
the
exception
of
tom
Talmud,
and
whether
you
want
to
just
introduce
yourself
to
the
group.
Since
it's
your
first
time
here.
B
Yeah
good
afternoon
guys
a
product
owner
at
Gladstone
and
excited
to
get
on
board
really
and
I
think
it's
best
representation
from
Gladstone
in
this
group.
At
the
moment,
great.
A
And
thanks
for
joining
us
test,
it
so
agenda
for
today's
call.
I've
got
some
slides
that
I
will
share
just
to
take
us
through
the
call
today.
A
Ok,
so
hopefully
you
can
see
those
now,
so
the
main
focus
of
today's
discussion
is
going
to
be
around
the
proposal
that
I
shared
to
the
lists
last
week
around
creating
a
shared
activity
list.
I
also
wanted
to
spend
a
bit
of
time
and
let
Jay
talk
through
some
of
the
data
that's
captured
in
the
emd
system,
I'm
just
too.
So
we
can
compare
that
with
what
we
have
in
the
opportunity
data
spec
at
the
moment,
because
I
think
it's
relevant
to
some
of
the
discussions.
A
So
I
wanted
to
cover
that
briefly
and
then
anything
else
that
anyone
wants
to
bring
up
as
the
business
and
also
I'll
recap
what
we're
going
to
be
focusing
on
for
the
next
couple
of
calls
and
because
we're
from
from
this
stage
on
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
focus
the
discussion
that
each
of
these
around
a
particular
area
of
the
standards
activity
so
yep.
So
then,
so
the
main
focus
today
is
around
the
eelus
proposal.
A
I'll
I've
also
done
a
very
high
level
comparison
of
the
couple
of
the
more
detailed
lists,
I've
seen
so
we'll
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
looking
at
those
later
in
the
call
as
well
so
I'm,
starting
with
the
with
the
proposal
I
think
we
had
three
broad
requirements
that
there's
a
need
for
an
openly
licensed
list
of
physical
activities
that
anyone
in
the
sector
can
access
use
and
share,
and
so
from
the
feedback
that
we've
had
so
far
at
various
platforms.
A
Have
got
activity
lists,
but
they're
not
widely
shared
some
of
the
people
that
will
be
using
opportunity.
Data
to
create
new
apps
and
services
could
benefit
from
having
access
to
a
better
structured
list.
So,
while
in
the
opportunity
data
specification,
we've
described
how
to
pub
how
to
structure
those
lists,
we
haven't
actually
got
as
far
as
defining
a
standard
list.
So
that's
kind
of
what
would
you
focusing
one
more
today's
discussion
there's
been
a
few
comments,
one
that
calls
around
how
that
list
should
be
structured
in
the
specification.
At
the
moment
we've
described.
A
Hierarchical
lists,
and
that
reflects
some
of
the
ways
that
data
is
being
structured
at
the
moment,
so
I
think
we
need
to
carry
that
forward
into
a
standard
list,
but
that
is
a
topic
for
discussion.
I
want
to
come
back
to
and
like
everything
that
this
community
group
is
doing,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
list
is
developed
on
open
collaborative
process.
A
So
what
I'm
proposing
is
that
this
community
group
creates
another
output
so
deliverable
from
our
activities,
which
will
be
the
activity
list
and
that
will
get
published
from
under
the
kind
of
open
active
website
accessible
there
alongside
the
other
specifications
that
we
produce
so
far
and
that
it
will
be
published
under
a
open
license.
So
the
creative
commons
attribution
for
porno
license.
So
that
means
anyone
who's
using
the
list
will
need
to
attribute
open
active
as
the
source
of
the
data.
A
That's
also
compatible
with
the
lies
open
license
that
we've
been
asking
people
to
use
when
they're,
sharing
their
opportunity
opportunity
data
as
well.
The
list
I
think
it
needs
to
be
overseen
by
volunteers
from
the
group
while
I'm
happy
to
do.
A
You
know
as
chair
to
do
the
coordination
work
and
to
to
do
their
kind
of
authoring
around
the
deliverable
and
I.
Think
I
need
some
support
in
terms
of
kind
of
more
expert
opinions
on
the
how
the
list
should
be
structured,
what
the
content
should
be.
So
what
I'm?
A
Like
the
other
outputs
from
the
group,
the
development,
the
activity
list
will
be
done
in
the
open,
so
we'll
use
all
the
same
infrastructure
that
we
have
so
far.
So
we
use
the
mailing
list
and
we'll
use
get
hub
to
manage
any
issues
and
publish
the
content.
We
can
use
these
hangouts
as
a
forum
for
debating
aspects
of
the
list
if
we
need
to
and
using
Google
Docs
to
support
collaborative
editing.
A
So
thinking
of
a
few
things
around
the
the
process
of
how
this
list
is
going
to
fit
into
the
kind
of
standards,
landscape
and
the
data
that
people
are
publishing
still
feel
that
we
shouldn't
be
making
any
requirements
that
people
must
use
the
standard
list.
I
see.
This
is
a
list
as
a
useful
resource
that
people
can
start
to
use
to
incorporate
into
their
platforms
and
applications
if
they
choose,
so
that
it
allows
independent
adoption
of
the
standards
and
of
the
deliverables
that
we're
producing
unless
I
think
activity.
A
I
think
it's
I
think
we're
in
position
to
kind
of
mandate
that
people
need
to
start
changing
their
platforms
to
accommodate
a
single
list
and
because
I
think
in
general
it.
What
we
will
produce
will
not
necessarily
cover
everyone's
use
cases,
so
it'll
need
to
be
extended
or
revised
for
for
different
purposes.
So
I
would
expect
that
various
data
publishers
will
continue
to
manage
their
own
lists.
You
know
so
I
expect
at
sport,
england,
sports,
wheat
and
people
at
for
global
will
continue
to
want
to
maintain
their
own
list.
A
But
what
we're
creating
is
a
new
separate
resource
and
what
we
can
do
is
create
a
mapping
between
those
lists
if
it's
useful,
so
we
can
just
make
sure
that
if
there's
some
slightly
different
wording
or
terminology-
and
you
being
used
across
lists
that
we
can
still
state
that
there
is
some
equivalences.
So
if
somebody
need
does
need
to
map
between
data,
that's
coming
from
systems
that
use
different
activity
lists,
then
we've
kind
of
helping
them
do
that
integration
work.
A
So
I've
suggested
that
that
we
should
be
BK
in
a
hierarchical
list
rather
than
just
a
flat
list
of
activities.
There's.
But
we've
had
a
few
discussions
about
that
already
and
I
think
we
should
come
back
to
again
in
the
cotton
in
a
minute,
but
some
of
the
feedback
I've
had
is
that
a
hierarchy
list
will
actually
be
useful,
more
useful
for
and
developers
in
driving
and
discovery
of
opportunities,
because
it
offers
more
ways
to
drive
recommendations
and
search
indexing
around
opportunity.
A
Data
but
I
recognize
that
there
is
a
need
to
kind
of
manage
complexity
here,
I'd
be
very
easy
to
get
into
a
very
complex
list
structure
that
might
not
be
that
easy
for
people
to
use,
and
we
could
very
quickly
get
caught
up
in
debates
around
how
to
structure
that
hierarchy.
So
I
think
what
need
to
just
look
at
keep
using
hierarchy
to
help
us
manage
and
organize
the
list,
but
keep
it
relatively
lightweight.
So
maybe
just
limit
the
depth
of
the
hierarchy
and
then
kind
of
picking
up
on
the
point
around.
A
Expectations
that
the
list
will
need
to
be
customized
and
extended,
then
we
should
be
clear
about
what
the
mechanisms
are
for
doing
that
extension.
So
if
a
particular
community
wanted
to
extend
the
list
to
add
more
detail
for
their
particular
area
of
activity,
then
we
should
have
some
guidance
around
that
the
same
as
we
have
with
the
core
specification
and
also
be
clear
about
what
the
process
is
by
which
will
be
doing
revisions
to
the
activity
list.
A
And
so
how
would
somebody
come
to
the
community
group
with
a
proposal
that
perhaps
the
hierarchy
should
be
a
changed
or
updated,
whether
those
new
new
activities
that
should
be
added
to
the
list
or
whether
it
would
be
better
to
change
the
hierarchy?
Ins
in
some
form,
I
think
again,
we'd,
probably
to
kind
of
manage
the
overheads
there,
so
perhaps
think
about
having
a
say
three
or
six
monthly
release
cycle,
maybe
even
an
annual
release
cycle.
A
Just
to
let
us
do
revisions
at
a
kind
of
measured
pace
rather
than
continuing
to
change
it
on
a
month-by-month
basis,
so
that
that's
kind
of
broadly
the
proposal
I'm
in
terms
of
process
everything
here.
It
would
pretty
much
following
what
we've
been
doing
over
the
last
last
few
months,
so
I
just
wanted
to
pause
here
and
give
you
a
chance
to
give
some
feedback
so
on
the
process
on
this
question
around
hierarchy
and
also
some
of
the
interesting
your
thoughts
on
some
of
the
some
of
the
content
that
we
could
put
into
the
list.
A
A
The
lists
I've
seen
so
far,
don't
have
definitions,
so
it
might
be
fine
to
proceed
without
sin,
but
I
wanted
to
flag
that
as
a
potential
discussion
point
and
then
the
last
one
is
around
collections
of
activities,
so
both
so,
for
example,
both
the
sport,
sweet
and
sport
in
lists
have
lists
of
sports
and
physical
activities,
but
they
also
group
those
in
various
ways
so
identify
as
a
team
sports
or
winter
sports.
A
So
should
we
be
trying
to
include
that
in
our
standard
list,
or
is
that
an
area
where
we
just
leave
it
up
to
the
community
to
define
their
own
collections?
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
areas
that
I
begin
to
get
feedback
on.
I
just
kind
of
get
open
it
up
to
the
rest
of
you
see
what
you
think
of
that
proposal.
So
far,
does
anyone
starts
off
with
comments.
Anyone
Li.
C
I
mean
we've
got
lots
of
experience
of
it.
Maintaining
lists
of
this
nature
and
no
expertise
in
sports
and
I'd
always
call
it
an
activity
types
list,
as
I've
said
to
you
before,
because
they're
not
actual
activities,
but
that's
semantics,
and
as
long
as
everyone
understands,
their
types
of
activity
can
I.
Just
clarify
from
the
way
I've
seen
is
represented
in
the
spec
you're
right
with
there
being
identified
by
their
preferred
label.
Not
by
any
kind
of
identifiers.
A
C
So
if,
if
somebody
say
changes
the
preferred
term,
that
will
it
will
be
clear
that
that's
this,
that
you
know
somebody's
historically
referenced
it
in
a
data
set,
it
will
be
clear
what
item
they're
talking
about,
although
the
labels
changes
over
time
because
their
be
identified
by
an
identifier
as
opposed
to
their
labours
yeah.
Yes,
we
can
make
sure
the
stability
to
have.
You
add
wasn't
aware-
and
forgive
me
I
probably
haven't
looked
in
detail.
A
D
C
It
Mike
Johnny
give
an
example:
yeah
I'm
totally
example,
I
can
think
of
is
a
bit
fictitious.
If
water
polo
were
considered
to
be
both
a
water
sport
and
an
equestrian
sport,
it
would
fit
under
both
headings.
Yeah
and
and
I.
Think
somebody
in
a
previous
hangout
gave
a
more
realistic
example,
so
it
does
create
flexibility,
but
that
does
start
to
cause
that
there
are
other
complications
for
a
program
are
using
it,
but
you
know
so
can
one
heading
fit
under
two
categories,
so
we
have
a
live
for
that
yeah
yeah.
C
C
The
hierarchies
allow,
for
you,
know,
look
at
a
narrow
asset
or
look
at
a
broader
set.
You
know
we
haven't,
got
kickboxing,
but
we've
got
boxing
for
instance,
and
so
they're.
The
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
say:
Lee
was
just
that
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
rules
like
that,
and
it
would
be
nice
if
they
went
in
a
sort
of
guidance
document
or
rules
document
that
the
editorial
teams
working
too
and
maybe
adds
to
overtime.
Because
my
experiences,
you
forget
these
things
six
months
in
and
then
start
to
contravene
what
you
agreed
yeah.
A
Useful
FIBA
yeah,
so
we
we
do
allow
for
the
poly
hierarchy
at
the
moment,
I'm
both
they
this
that's.
Why
I
as
we
flew
into
his
collections,
because
that's
what
I'm
scores
calls
them
as
well,
so
in
the
in
the
examples
from
both
sports,
wheat
and
Sport
England
and
where
there
are
multiple
parents,
it's
usually
that
there
is
it.
The
one
thinking
of
is
the
kind
of
primary
hierarchy
of
describing
the
activities,
and
then
there
are
collections
of
sports
or
types
of
activities.
So
there's
there's
a
slightly
different.
Okay.
F
A
F
You
and
peace
be
back
a
different
point
and
I
think
it's
quite
important
at
this
stage
that
we've
got
consensus
on
what
our
end
goal
is
in
terms
of
the
activity
lists,
and
I
think
I
emailed
about
our
earlier
in
terms
of
and
if
we're
gonna.
If
our
end
goal
is
to
have
every
single
possible
activity,
then
this
is
a
beast
of
a
project
and
it's
going
to
take
us
is
and
just
looking
at
the
current
activity
lists
and
then
just
from
the
fitness
perspective.
There's
there's
a
lot
missing
and.
B
F
I
expect
that
that
having
look
at
some
of
the
other
sports
that
I
know
about
there
probably
is
as
well,
and
my
my
personal
opinion
on
this
is
the
place
to
start
is
the
the
top
level
or
the
economy
of
what
the
terminology?
What's
that
was
used,
and
we
need
to
get
that
that
top-level
agreed
first
and
has
a
sort
of
phase
one
and
then
then
look
at
what
the
groups
under
that
those
top
levels
would
be
potentially
as
a
face.
F
A
That's
a
good
point
and
that,
but
that's
that's
where
I
kind
of
I
I
think
I
need
some
input
from
the
rest
of
you,
because
you're
you're
dealing
with
this
data
on
on
a
day-to-day
basis
where
I
so
I
can
help
with
the
structuring
of
the
lists,
but
yeah
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
a
good
way
to
kind
of
band
that
top
top
top
set
of
concepts.
That's
why
I
start
to
look
at
what?
A
G
So
this
is
kim
from
sports
wii
and
there's
me
and
my
colleague
becky
get
and
I'm
a
complete
agreement.
We
tried
to
do
this
a
couple
years
back
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
when
we
were
rolling
this
out,
so
I
can't
sports
partnerships.
We
have
the
same
sort
of
debate
and
discussion
with
everybody
was
involved
about
trying
to
put
on
the
sports
and
physical
activities
and,
like
you
said,
it's
a
huge
mammoth
task
to
try
and
get
all
of
those
sports
together.
G
So
what
we
actually
did
is
we
looked
at
sport,
England's
recognized
sports,
so
they
were
the
ones
that
we
took
the
list
from
initially
and
then,
as
our
county
sports
partnerships
across
the
country
started,
adding
their
own
sports
and
physical
activities
that
were
happening
on
their
patch.
We
added
them
to
the
list,
so
there
were
ones
that
were
like
the
common
ones.
So
to
speak,
we
kind
of
put
them
all
on
and
the
same
as
what
you
were
just
saying
is
only
a
two
level.
So
you
have
a
parent
and
a
child
and
that's
it.
G
We
kept
it
as
a
two
level
structure
and
then
had
tagging,
for
it
was
in
two
particular
groups,
so,
for
example,
if
it's
winter
sport
or
Olympic
sport-
and
that
was
very
much
because
of
the
customer
base
that
we
were
working
with
trying
to
a
working
with
do.
Sometimes
you
know
forecast
for
partnerships
need
to
go
to
say
Oh
real
cat,
these
Olympic
sports
for
a
particular
campaign,
but
it
wasn't
really
anything
broader
than
that
and
it
certainly
needs
a
lot
more
adding
to
it.
G
With
regards
to
fitness
classes,
which
is
unique,
a
sports
partnerships
are
going
to
do
some
with
this.
It's
very
much
working
national
governing
bodies
and
it's
very
sport
heavy,
and
so
we
don't
have
quite
an
extensive
list
on
the
activity
side,
but
I'm
hoping
someone
could
help
us
with
that
by
I'm
of
a
complete
agreement.
We
keep
it
simple
and
draw
a
line
in
the
sand,
I'll
speaking
to
heavens,
from
a
TI
es
playin
convention
just
to
the
week
about
this-
that
at
some
point,
but
you
said
it
can
grow
and
grow
and
grow.
G
But
we
need
to
kind
of
put
drawer
liners
and
say
look.
This
is
a
starting
point
and
then,
as
Lee
said,
just
keep
adding
to
it
every
six
months
or
what
have
you
as
we
get
those
partners
on
board
they'll
understand
what
what's
great
you're,
more
required
from
each
sport
in
greater
depths.
That's
how
words
there
anyway,
we're
not
precious
Laver
I
list.
By
the
way
it
was
just
just
our
starter
for
10.
So
if
anyone
can
add
to
it
and
amend
it
and
by
all
means,
please
feel
free.
H
I
soil
it
yet
Nick
here
I
mean
this
couple
is
all
about.
Is
one
kind
of
agreed
agree
with
Kim
and
Jade
about
keeping
it
simple
to
start
off
with
I
think
we
also
need
to
be
very
careful
about
the
finding
what
we
mean
by
spawn
physical
activity,
because
how
far
you
go
down
particular
physical
activity
stuff
and
we
don't
want
to
go
into
starting
gate
very
much
into
details
around
any
kind
of
NHS
I.
H
We
cap
type
definitions
or
anything
like
that
and
I
think
that's
where
the
supporting
documentation
can
be
very
clear
about
what
we're
doing
nothing.
The
other
danger
around
here
is
being
very
clear
about
how
this
links
across
the
world
talked
about
a
program
stuff,
because
what
we
said
here
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
simplify
the
list
and
not
go
down
into
the
detailed
names
that
the
operators
will
keep
grinding
everything.
H
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
is
clearly
marked
off
as
a
separate
being
in
the
documentation,
because
if
you
start
to
open
this
up,
don't
judge
people
then
start
oh
I'll.
Just
that
always
scream
fit
other
side
that
on
and
we
get
just
the
list
will
quit
right
in
particular,
I
think
that's
a
way
of
all
those
health
and
fitness
kind
of
issues
around
that
which
is
going
to
jail
to
have
talked
about,
because
that
list
can
go
on
and
on.
F
Yes,
I
agree
and
I
was
saying
that
and
some
of
the
current
guests
we've
got
like
a
mixture
of
programs
and
activities
like
less
Milsom
by
executive
fitness
perspective,
all
programs
and
I
think
the
strength
thrust
would
be
defining
the
activities
and
then
should
we
want
to
go
to
a
phase
two.
We
can
think
about
responsibility
of
our
ownership
of
those
subsets
as
well.
So
do
we
want
to
take
on
the
ownership
of
deciding
what
the
football
list
is?
H
Yeah
I
can
agree
that
I
mean
I
think
with
football.
Most
of
it
will
be
all
around
their
programs.
We
talk
to
where
they
would
be
quite
super.
Once
you
talk
about
how
you
get
to
define
it,
it's
that
it's,
the
programs
that
they
change
for
the
different
levels
have
changed
quite
a
lot,
a
quite
a
lot
of
llama
I
think
where
the
other
challenges
is
around
around
the
bees.
Where
do
you
draw
the
line?
H
Particular
those
programs
about
program
names
or
things
that
become
almost
become
the
activity
synonymous
with
it,
so
the
zumba
all
across
pit
which
are
going
to
branded
things,
but
that's
what
consumed
all
search
for.
So
how
does
that?
Where
do
you
draw
the
line
on
the
list
of
our,
including
those
toxins.
A
Yeah
I
mean
that
that's
where
there
needs
to
be
some
ongoing
editorial
oversight,
I
think
so
that
there's
you
know
we
regularly
assess.
You
know
new
candidate
terms
for
the
promotion
and
a
good
way
to
do.
That
would
be
to
start
looking
at
the
data,
that's
being
shared.
That
has
been
tagged
up
as
programs
in
the
in
the
open
data,
and
we
can
use
that
as
a
potential
suggestions
for
for
things
that
need
to
go
into
the
main
list,
particularly
if
they've
being
commonly
used
any
other
comments
from
the
group.
D
You
know,
as
it
I
was
interested
in
the
as
a
kind
of
we're
talking
about
about
making
these
lists
such
that
they
could
be
implemented
in
other
people's
systems
right
and
and
the
level
of
detail
in
those
this.
What
strikes
me
is
interesting.
Is
that
I'm
just
thinking
about
how
that
would
be
implemented
if
you've
got
a
list
and
it
might
be.
D
This
is
the
kind
of
high-level
list
I'm
imagining
that
that's
a
drop
down
in
some
of
the
kind
of
you
know,
there's
your
management
systems
or
some
of
the
booking
systems
or
whatever,
and
that
you
can
you
could
choose
which
of
those.
As
you
know,
is
this
a
football
session,
or
is
this
a
fitness
session
here
from
that
drop-down
when
we
get
into
the
level
below
that
that
we're
talking
about
drawing
the
line?
D
Are
we
going
to
basically
not
everyone's
going
to
want
all
that
detail
and
there's
going
to
be
levels
of
granularity
that
some
people
won't
care
about
in
some
systems?
They'll
just
say
we
know
what
we're
never
going
to
get
people
filling
this
in
or
or
maybe
it's
it's
too
much
information.
So
no
is
it.
Are
we
cognizant
about
I
suppose
what's
driving
us
to
designer
levels?
What
is
the
level
one
level
what
the
user
would
expect
to
see
in
the
list
of
activities
if
they
were
choosing
or
is
it?
D
You
know
how
we
you
know
it?
Is
it
how
we
see
ourselves
funding
you
know,
for
example,
the
MGBs
is
an
easy
list
of
sports.
Is
that
how
the
user
would
think
about
it?
You
know
some
ng
bees
cover
more
than
one
sport
and
their
user
sees
them
as
different,
so
I,
just
I
guess
was
interested
in
that.
How
are
making
those
decisions.
A
Kind
of
implementation
side
of
things,
so
how
will
you
be
used?
The
data
to
populate
pick
lists
or
to
do
search,
indexing
recommendations?
So
is
the
right
kind
of
structure
and
detail
there
and
then
separately
around
the
the
governance?
You
know
how
you
define
the
scope
of
sports
example,
so
there
might
be
to
dislike
to
slightly.
A
D
Then
we
might
end
up
with
people
not
making
good
use
of
it.
You
said
I
mean
so
I
feel
as
if
we're
not
including
a
description
for
example,
that
we
talked
earlier
and
is
we
were
bounding.
How
detailed
you
can
get,
because
at
a
certain
point,
there'll
be
stuff
that
just
people
just
don't
know
what
it
is,
because
in
Sony,
Sh,
yeah.
A
G
G
A
H
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
enough
way
is
ever
going
to
put
on
an
activity.
They
don't
I
can't
provide
so
that
it's
either
defined
by
the
facility
people's
defined
by
the
classes
that
they
were.
So
this
is
the
top
level.
Where
were
you
can
prepare
for
fitness?
Then
they'll
be
adding
whatever
program
there,
which
we've
talked
about,
will
be
the
free
text,
whatever
they
want
to
call
it,
and
then
that
will
be
pushed
through
into
booking
system.
So
you
always
have
a
higher
level
back
behind
you.
H
F
That's
a
crisp
in
class
or
their
5
is
less
football,
and
but
if
we're
talking
about
starting
with
our
higher
level
hierarchy
from
a
user's
perspective,
that
will
have
less
use
it,
it
will
be
I
think
it's
what
Nick,
just
that
intensive
enable
people
to
to
sort
of
organize
their
their
own
systems
and
their
own
reporting.
That's
where
the
use
to
start
with
this
is
going
to
lie,
rather
than
it
being
to
the
consumer.
H
Yeah
I
kind
of
oh
yeah
I,
know
what
you
mean.
I
kind
of
agree
agree
with
what
I
mean
it's
Kennish
I
mean
what
you
could
do.
Is
you
carry
out
and
publish
the
high
level
list?
This
is
the
first
bit,
but
you
have
the
other
list
against
it
and
you
basically
say
well.
This
is
the
big
we
starting
with
this
is
the
start
turn
on
the
other
list,
but
we
really
concentrate
on
this
topic
first,
that
might
be
asked
the
other
way
to
do
it.
Yeah.
F
H
H
H
D
Excited
separate,
but
I
guess
related
question
I
had
was
in
terms
of
release
cycles.
We
talked
about
how
quickly
we
can
get
this
stuff
out
and
changing.
So
just
we
talked
about
it
being
an
annual
as
one
option.
I
wonder:
if
there's
a
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
make
it
I,
don't
know,
maybe
it's
sufficiently
high
level.
D
There
doesn't
need
to
be
more
regular
than
that,
but
I
was
just
kind
of
wondering
whether
we
can
make
it
more
frequent
if
we
only
allow
additions
or
something
you
know,
but
changes
are
made
on
an
annual
breaking
changes
have
an
annual
basis
or
something
like
that.
Just
because,
if
we're
evolving
this
I'm
just
thinking
about
how
quickly
we
can
start
to
see
this
list
actually
implemented
in
systems.
Because,
ultimately,
is
it's
the
booking
systems
route
they're
going
to
actually
implement
the
system?
D
I
know
that
some
of
the
guys
sitting
here
you
know
their
backlogs
are
massive
and
they've
got
a
million
things
going
on,
and
you
know
the
chance
that
this
actually
being
implemented
as
a
field
as
a
drop-down
list.
You
know
in
the
next
two
months
is
probably
enters.
Probably
etch
there
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
what
maybe
this
is
not.
Maybe
this
question
for
one
of
those
one
of
you
guys
with
with
systems
anymore.
Well
as
implementation
look
like,
were
you
sitting
there
thinking?
This
is
something
for
next
year,
we'll
wait
to
figure
it
out.
E
Okay,
so
from
my
point
of
view,
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
you
to
have
buyer
nearly
or
or
or
yearly
really
cycle
for
the
sort
of
data
I.
Don't
think
it
is
a
reasonable
expectation
to
expect
all
of
the
legend
management
system
providers
to
to
have
to
have
to
integrate
a
new
version
of
the
list
potentially
every
week
every
month,
possibly
all
the
way
up
to
up
to
up
to
a
single
quarter.
A
F
Think
that
the
release
cycle
two
levels
of
the
hierarchy
needs
to
be
a
lot
less
frequent
than
the
bottom.
So
maybe
you
sort
of
bunch
of
good
standardized
to
list
to
Dokdo
levels
that
sort
of
a
concrete
they
might
change.
I
me
in
a
year's
time
or
two
years
time,
if
there's
a
major
leap
day
that
the
bottom
levels
of
is
web
flex
busy
lives,
yeah.
D
I'm
accent,
I!
Guess
then,
when
you
say
my
versions,
then
if
you
were
going
to
introduce
version
2
which
may
be
there
would
be
a
mad
thing
that
would
come
with
version
2
from
version
1
so
that
you
could
migrate
your
data
almost
like
a
migration
that
you
could
run
over
the
data
to
move,
move
it
to
the
new
that
just
throwing
it
out
there.
Yes,.
A
Yeah,
that
makes
sense
so
one
so
one
thing
I
want
to
do
a
kind
of
put
you'll.
Isn't
it
so
we're
not
starting
from
that
kind
of
completely
blank
slate?
We've
got
potentially
at
least
one,
if
not
two
lists
that
we
could
use
as
the
seed
for
this
activity.
So
I've
been
talking
to
Nick
about
Sport
England
publishing
their
activity
list
formally
under
an
open
license
to
make
it
open
data
Kim
it'd
be
it'd,
be
great.
If
I'm
sports,
we
were
able
to
do
to
do
the
same.
A
I
know
that
you've
kind
of
shared
this
with
with
a
group
already,
but
we
would
be
great
if
we
could,
if
you
were
willing
to
publish
it
under
an
open
license.
What
we
could
do
is
we
could
choose
one
of
the
lists
as
the
the
basis
that
we
work
on.
We
could
even
just
take
one
of
those
lists
and
say:
okay,
here's
the
first
version,
and
you
know
so
we
could
just
compare
them
on
their
relative
merits
as
they
stand
today.
A
If
there's
particular
areas
where
one
list
is
weak
and
we
can
improve
it
based
on
data
from
the
other
one,
then
we
can
do
that.
So
you
know
we're
not
having,
but
sorry,
no.
G
Says
Kim
and
Becky
again
we're
happy
to
start
working
I
mean
you
shared
the
google
doc
with
us
type
today,
and
so
we
could
have
a
little
look
over
that
I'm
happy
to
look
at
the
comparisons
and
start
putting
together
a
full
list.
As
I
mentioned,
there
was
the,
as
is
probably
a
bit
more
bit
more
support
to
heavy,
so
it
might
need
somebody
else's
support
to
try
and
fill
in
me
the
more
physical
activity,
fitness
sized
blanks
even
down
to
the
second
level,
if
we're
staying
at
a
top
level.
G
A
Yeah
I
think
I
think
I
would
be
great.
The
yes
I
mean
so
that
the
comparison
that
I
shared
I
think
at
the
moment,
let's
see,
spool
England's
got
319
entries
sports
we've
got
240
and
as
a
reasonable
kind
of
over
between
them.
G
Yeah
I
mean
just
link
to
that.
There
is
a
few
things,
obviously
like
there's
some
spelling
errors
that
have
made
duplicates
and
then
there's
also
things
a
different
uses
of
words
that
we
might
have
to
try
and
determine
know
you
mention
about
whether
we
use
synonyms
or
something
like
that,
because,
for
example,
we
have
parkour
in
our
list,
but
we
have
you
know
the
synonym
of
freerunning.
So
then
it
came
up
saying
that
we
didn't
have
three
running,
but
we
do,
but
it's
just
listed
as
a
synonym
of
parkour.
G
So
there's
a
few
things
like
that
that,
probably
to
also
try
and
iron
out
as
we
go
through
it
and
things
such
as
you
know,
we
have
white
water
rafting,
whereas
this
wild
water
rafting
on
the
other
list.
But
then
that
also
mrs.
off
black
water
rafting.
You
know
so
again
it
comes
down
to
how
what
kind
of
level
of
something
you
want
to
do
and
what
kind
of
wording
but
I
don't
know
what
what
the
thoughts
were
on
using
synonyms.
G
A
Well,
that
that
was
one
of
the
one
of
my
questions,
so
we
the
standard,
allows
for
synonyms
and
help
within
the
conversion
that
I
did
for
the
support
England
list
I
included
the
synonyms
that
they
had
there.
So
we
couldn't,
we
could
definitely
include
them.
You
know
we
could
build
that
into
the
into
the
deliverable,
so
I
feel
that
would
be
a
useful
thing
to
do.
Okay,.
G
Also
be
a
bit
of
a
reason
why
there's
some
you
know
differences,
it's
actually
just
different
words
calf.
Indeed,
but
you
know
we
can
have
a
little
look
through,
that
we
could
least
start
and
try
and
pull
together
the
sport,
sweet
and
the
sport
england
lists
into
into
one
kind
of
how
everyone
sort
of
said
today.
If
that
helps
and
where
possible
will
also
drop
in
our
and
descriptions
and
that
we
have
for
some
of
the
some
of
the
activities.
G
And
so
then
you
can
then
decide
whether
or
not
that's
overkill
and
we'll
it's
give
it
to
hard
to
determine
what
the
wording
should
be.
Is
you
can
obviously
just
take
or
leave
that
I
love
you
see
fit
but
I?
Guess
it's
a
start
of
a
town
anyway,
and
they
don't
need
somebody
else
to
really
put
their
I
over
it
and
give
it
a
good
shake
and
see
what
what
sticks
yeah.
A
That
sounds
great
I
mean
because
it
means
then
we're
in
the
process.
Initially,
the
process
is
just
how
do
we
merge
these
two
already
well
structured
and
well
tested
lists
and
then
think
about
how
we
maintain
that
going
forward,
rather
than
trying
to
create
a
whole
new
list
from
scratch.
It
means
that
I
think
we
should
better
get
something.
That's
more
useful
for
everyone,
a
bit
by
bit
quicker
so.
E
Net
review,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
need
to
just
make
it
clear
as
to
what
we're
going
to
do
with
sports
that
have
that
have
acronyms
so
that,
for
example,
MMA
that
was
that
was
on
the
one
list
as
mixed
martial
arts
and
was
on
a
on
the
sports
sweet
when
I
think
it
was
as
MMA
or
was
vice
versa.
I
think
we
also
need
to
make
a
clear.
What's
going
to
be
the
what's
going
to
be
the
preferred
name
for
sports,
where
there
is
a
and
no
an
acronym
for
them
as
well.
A
Yeah,
okay,
yeah:
this
is
another
good
point.
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
it
does
again.
We
probably
need
some
just
some
general
kind
of
editorial
guidance
around.
You
know
whether
we
had
we
might
include
synonyms,
but
so
conclude
acronyms,
but
as
a
synonym,
and
we
just
make
sure
that
the
terms
are
fully
spell
out.
You
know
in
the
in
the
hierarchy
of
that
kind
of
thing
and.
G
A
So,
as
I
mentioned,
I
was
once
to
ask
baseball
england,
sports
sweet,
so
kind
of
publish
their
existing
list
as
open
data
I,
don't
know
whether
there's
others
that
are
in
sector
that
we
might
want
to
incorporate
at
some
point
but
I'm,
starting
by
merging
those
two
seems
like
a
reasonable.
F
F
A
E
Yeah
from
from
our
point
of
view,
all
of
our
users
have
have
have
always
tended
to
use
the
sports
England
luster
as
they
as
their
basis.
So
you
know
as
long
as
that's
one
of
the
ones
which
were
using
for
a
fro
starting
list.
I
think
will
be.
You
know
off
to
a
good
start
there,
when
I
just
say,
is
a
on
the
spreadsheet,
which
was
which
was
sent
out
Lee
on
the
fourth
tab
for
for
the
really
high
level
stuff.
H
A
H
Only
other
thing
was
a
mentor
about
Lissa's
I
said
to
you:
is
there
some
areas
of
what
we've
never
really
under
the
secondary
stuff,
really
gone
into
detail?
So
a
lot
of
the
motor
sports?
You
know
we
haven't
gone
into
talking
about
off-roading
or
into
Speedway
or
into
all
the
different.
You
know
motocross
or
anything
like
that.
There's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
haven't
defined
under
summer
sports
right.
A
G
Can
I
also
just
check
I
can't
remember
now,
including
gonstead
earlier,
but
I
think
I'm
one
of
the
list
all
type
like
five-a-side
football,
11
aside
football
and
it
broke
it
down
by
playing
and
visit
I
mean
we're
really
going
down
to
that
level
as
well
or
would
it
just
be?
Football
comes.
There's
lots
different.
A
H
That's
come
from
probably
porn
part
of
the
active
lives,
because
we
were
we
weren't
really
looking
at
trying
to
understand.
You
know
who
do
he
plays
five
sizes
playing
the
full
game,
so
that
might
have
been
where
it
comes
from,
but
that
might
be
for
one
from
offered
for
Jamie
in
terms
of
kind
of
my
local
pitch
work
and
with
less
for
their
perspective
and
that's
that's
important
below
football
yeah.
I
I
think
it
very
much
sense.
They
are
very
much
different
art
sports,
a
lot
of
people's
so
the
way
we
can't
classify
as
a
level
side-
I
day,
so
I
Poseidon
six
side
and
five
aside
and
those
are
different
pitch
sizes.
You
have.
G
Think
that
was
certainly
helpers
if
we're
at
least
doing
the
first
draft
trying
to
pull
that
together,
because
I
know
we
were
referring
to
football
and
rugby
there,
but
obviously
there's
variants
on
a
lot
of
sports.
You
know
you
have
netball,
that's
five
desired
and
seven
aside
in
the
new
also
have
and
volleyball,
which
is
five
aside
and
three
aside,
so
it
could.
G
I
A
That's
great
I'm
think
I'm
having
a
good.
A
good
definition
of
good
test
will
help
us
keep
on
track.
Okay,
so
all
right
so
I've
so
done
to
the
next
step,
so
be
useful
to
get
the
existing
lists
under
under
an
open
license,
and
then
we've
got
there's
raw
materials
that
we
can.
We
can
do
this
merging
exercise
around.
I
I've
already
shared
with
you
all
initial
comparison
of
the
lists.
A
I've
had
so
far
and
gay
to
be
useful
and
if
you
were
able
to
share
your
list
with
a
group
as
well
and
so
I
could
feed
that
in
so
we
could
just
do
another
layer
of
comparison
in
terms
of
getting
some
volunteers
to
help.
Do
this,
this
merging
exercise
so
Jade
days
already
kindly
volunteered
to
help
out
I'm
Kim
might
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
you've
already
offered
to
help
out
here.
So
can
I
maybe
collaborate
with
you
and
Jade
and
perhaps
naked
Sport
England
to
kind
of
pull
together?
A
F
A
What
I
was
going
to
propose
do
is
to
set
up
some
shared
documents,
so
maybe
I've
got
a
better
structured
spreadsheet
than
then
I
shared
before
I'm
seeded
with
one
of
the
lists,
and
then
we
can
start
to
it
to
merging
so
epoxy
here
from
Sport
England
as
the
larger
list
and
then
merge
in
entries
from
the
other
lists
as
we
go.
So
if
I
was
to
set
up
those
shared
documents,
then
done,
we
can
start
to
collaborate
on
on
it
over
the
next
next
few
weeks
that
sound
reasonable.
E
But
Lee
I
would,
in
in
in
terms
of
the
of
the
first
like
the
physical
activities.
I
would
actually
start
the
other
way
around,
where
I
would
cede
it
from
the
smaller
list.
Otherwise,
if
you,
if
you
started
from
the
from
the
larger
list,
then
you'll
get
all
of
the
all
the
different
formats
you
know
in
there
as
as
high-level
activities
right
right
from
the
get-go.
Okay.
A
A
A
Yeah
I
include
that
yep,
okay,
okay,
we
only
have
a
few
minutes
left
on
the
call,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
jail
opportunity
just
to
talk
through
the
document.
She
shared
with
a
list
earlier
and
I
can
bring
that
up
on
my
screen.
F
What
would
things
priority
at
the
moment?
Hello,
one
of
the
things
and
that
we've
gotten
here
is
and
the
owner
be
at
the
organization
or
individual
and
is
more
information
about
that
person
and
so
I
think
we've
got
and
we
have
to
prevent
the
name
in
there
before
and
that's
the
top
thing
and
the
next
one
down.
These
are
actually
the
ginger
of
that
person
and
that
would
be
important
to
the
user
and
a
female
might
only
want
to
go
to
the
sessions
can
catch.
B
F
Categorization
of
activity,
type
hierarchy
and
name
of
class
is
already
in
comments
back
and
I
think
think.
I
saw
inspector
anywhere
at
the
moment,
M
a
and
a
map
which
is
quite
important
and
then
contact
details.
I'm
I've
missed
it,
but
we
have
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
button
in
the
spec
very
rich,
poor
email
and
relief
that
for
optimization
I'm,
whoever
the
activity
own
area.
So
that
would
be
been
your
number
Nina
for
but
organisation
or
to
teach
your
coat
to
instructor
and
quickly.
F
Frequenting
reoccurrence,
I
think,
is
probably
schedule
from
the
event
at
the
moment,
as
well
as
class
play
and
organizing
body.
That's
just
our
definition
of
the
organ
organization
and
activity,
owner
and
capacity
of
the
class,
and
that
could
be
important
to
you.
Oliva
and
some
people
weren't
really
Byron.
F
F
F
F
A
Think,
okay,
thank
you.
It
is
useful
to
see
that
is
it
on
several
levels.
It's
useful
because
it's
good
validation
of
what
coverage
we've
got
in
the
inspectors.
It
is,
as
you
pointed
out,
there's
a
few
areas
where
and
we
haven't
yet
added
support,
so
things
like
capacity
pricing,
some
of
the
disability
stuff,
is
kind
of
known
areas
that
we've
yet
to
get
to
so
yeah.
So
it
is
very
useful
to
see
what
you're
doing
in
practice
and
it'd
be
useful
to
get
equivalent
input
from
other
people
here
on
the
call.
A
G
A
Well,
not
not
necessarily
in
your
in
your
platform,
although
it
might
get
some
conversions
over
time.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
when
you
exchange
that
data
with
somebody
else,
so
when
you
publish
it
openly
really
structure
it
in
a
common
way
and
we're
using
the
same
fields
for
the
same
types
of
information,
how
we
actually
gets
presented
to
a
user
in
terms
of
user
interface
on
your
side
is
obviously
up
to
use
a
kind
of
system
design.
A
But
seeing
if
it's
obvious
to
people
that
there
is
it's
useful
to
collect
certain
times
information
that
would
expect
people
to
start
to
feed
that
into
the
system.
Yes,.
G
So
it's
not
like
you're
filling
the
hole
in
each
time.
You
went
to
the
you
know
onto
the
website
so
and
then
link
to
that
the
facilities
again,
so
a
user
can
create
an
organization
which
will
appear
in
our
database,
so
our
activity,
finder,
isn't
just
activities.
It
has
also
got
a
club
database
element
to
it
in
a
facilities
database,
so
anything
about
the
actual
facilities.
So
you
know
what
to
what
facilities
are
actually
based
there.
That's
also,
then
collected
and
held
separately.
It's
just
to
make
it
shorter
process
really
for
a
user
to
do.
G
They
don't
do
everything
in
one
long
list.
They
do
it
in
different
bits,
as
and
when
they're,
adding
on
either
an
activity
or
the
atom
on
an
organization
or
a
club
that
they're
affiliated
with
to
try
and
reduce
those
barriers.
But
it
does
mean
that
yes,
there,
we
obviously
we
collect
and
present
it
slightly
differently.
So
we
might
still
have
the
same
questions
big,
a
different
way
and
so
I
just
wasn't
sure
how
we
cross-reference
or
whether
we
should
all
be
looking
to
have
similar
questions
or
that
wouldn't
matter
too
much.
Yeah.
A
I
think
there's
room
for
everyone
to
kind
of
innovate
and
create
the
kind
of
user
interface
user
experience
that
they
need
within
their
platforms.
It's
just
knowing
that
we
can
be
reliably
map
between
what
you're
collecting
you
know
whether
it's
one
big,
four,
more
pulling
them
separate
bits
of
your
system
to
be
able
to
pull
that
out
in
a
consistent
way.
I
can.
D
Just
ask
them
Tom
and
Paul
sorry
to
pick
on
you
guys
in
your
year
we've
got
a
Gladstone
and
legend
represented
on
the
call
today
and
I
just
say:
you'd
be
listening
intently
to
all
of
this
and
and
I'm
just
really
interested
in
your
in
your
thoughts
on
that
on
all
we've
been
talking
about.
Is
that
something
I
mean
these
the
number
of
fields
we
just
went
through
an
activity.
This
is
that
something
that
is
that's
a
little
bit
more
than
its
current
II
caps
within
these
systems.
And
what
do
you
think.
J
You
hear
me
yep,
yep
yep,
against
the
first
question
fields
in
contents
of
fields:
I,
don't
think
it's
too
much
a
phase
for
us
as
a
software
provider,
I
think
what
I've
been
scribbling
down.
It's
just
what
this
means
to
the
provider
and
maintaining
all
this
data,
because
you've
got
a
sort
of
marketing
list.
What
is
it
that
we're
putting
to
the
consumer
to
pick
from
I
want
football?
You've
got
those
who
return
to
sports
England.
J
Those
are
returned
to
other
bodies
and
I'm,
just
getting
a
slight
worried
that
they're
going
to
be
receiving
a
single
list,
but
would
fulfill
all
of
those
criteria
because
they,
the
provider,
will
not
want
to
maintain
lots
of
lots
of
items
against
a
single
activity
there.
They
do
so
for
the
software
and
I.
Don't
think
any
software
provide
will
be
that
phase
by
the
amount
of
data.
That's
in
there.
It's
the
maintenance
of
the
data,
I
think,
is
the
biggest
headache
they're.
B
Think
for
me,
it's
providers
are
going
to
want
to
maybe
categorize
these
things
into
their
groups
still
keep
the
very
detailed
level
that
we
just
talked
about,
as
maybe
being
face
to
or
later
face
that
are
very
specific
to
them.
So
I
think
it's
almost
using
this
to
categorize
so
that
it's
easier
to
find
these
things
and
make
it
more
open,
but
I
think
from
our
provider
review.
B
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
there's
always
restrictions
in
in
software
and
people
use
things
like
descriptions
and
categorizing
things
to
to
work
around
things,
so
they
might
do
squash
court,
glass,
glass
walls,
squash
court,
painted
walls,
type
thing
and
ultimately
they
want
to
expose
that
to
the
customers,
because
that's
customers
that
want
to
choose
that
level.
That's
serving
a
completely
different
purpose
than
the
data
we've
just
talked
about
now,
but
generally
from
the
system
point
of
view.
It's
in
a
very
similar
area.
A
Specifications
and
also
for
the
primer
document
that
I
should
go
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
so
for
those
of
you
who
have
just
started
to
implement
against
the
spec
any
feedback
you
have
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
If
you
had
to
any
of
you've
had
time
to
look
over
the
primer,
I
guess
I'm
again,
I'm
probably
think
about
those
of
you
I'm
doing
the
technical
work
here.
If
there
are
particular
questions
that
you
have
that
aren't
being
addressed
by
the
primer
so
far,
then
let
me
know
so.
A
How
you
got
where
you
know
what
the
entry
point
is
into
the
book
of
booking
process.
That
kind
of
thing,
so,
if
you've
got
some
thoughts
on
that,
but
be
good
to
share
them
ahead
of
doing
that,
discussion
on
the
tenth
of
May
we're
going
to
have
a
focused
efficient
around
disabled
participation
and
accessibility
events.
So
again,
jade
is
quite
some
useful
input
there,
because
we
want
to
make
an
area.
The
specification
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
we've
addressed
properly
and
so
building
on
kind
of
good
advice
that
you've
all
had
so
far.
A
It's
going
to
be
great
I'm
I
haven't
yet
identified
the
topic
for
24th
of
May,
and
that
might
be
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
do
a
kind
of
check
in
on
this
process
of
creating
the
activity
list.
If
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
do
so
before,
but
I'm
also
open
for
if
people
have
got
suggestions
for
particular
topics,
with
this
big
array
of
the
specification
that
infield
needs
for
the
work
or
tension,
and
then
let
me
know-
and
we
can
schedule
discussion
around-
that
in
the
future.
D
We're
just
going
to
ask
is
that
in
terms
of
next
hangout
coming
up
is
the
next
one
I'm
going
to
cover
facilities,
specifically
as
having
a
conversation
with
Jamie
owning
the
week.
It
would
be
good
to
just
mention
that
here,
we've
in
various
other
conversations
in
terms
of
looking
to
open
up
data
facilities,
has
come
up
few
times
and
and
I
think
it
actually
came
up
as
well
with
them
with
Tom,
and
we
were
talking
that
through
and
also
with
Raymond
separately,
so
I
just
interested
up.
A
I
I
think
it'd
be
useful
to
incorporate
them
there.
You
know
we've
got
some
support
for
describing
facilities
in
the
specification,
but
not
necessarily
you
know
their
current
availability,
so
I
think
we
should
put
that
into
the
call
on
the
20
from
the
26
I.
Think
that
call
is
largely
me
around
capturing
requirements,
so
just
knowing
what
what
we
need
to
add
to
the
specification
to
start
to
move
it
forward
and
supporting
that
booking
workflow,
it's
kind
of
where
I
want
to
staff.
A
I
D
A
Okay,
but
yeah,
please
do
soup
yeah,
so
you
know,
as
always,
we
have
these
fortnightly
check-ins
but
useful
to
keep
the
discussion
going
in
between
on
mailing
list
so
yep.
So,
thanks
for
all
of
you
for
your
comments,
input
today
and
as
ever,
it's
really
useful
I
think
we've
got
a
good
sense
of
what
we
need
to
do
next
took
around
the
activity
lists
for
those
of
you
who
are
watching
the
recording
on
youtube.