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B
A
B
A
B
C
D
Good
evening
so
going
over
the
numbers
that
we
have
so
far,
it
looks
like
we've
had.
D
Had
some
gains
in
real
estate
so
right
now
we're
showing
about
a
one
percent
growth
in
the
in
the
total
levy.
B
So
meaning
right
now
we're
about
a
two
point:
seven,
five
percent
actual
tax
increase
on
the
levy
because
of
the
one
percent
of
growth.
For
you
guys.
B
2.75
percent
is
about
one
one
point.
B
B
B
Second,
I
want
to
see
what
the
council's
thoughts
are
on
this
budget
at
a
2.75
increase
and
where
we're
going
to
end
up
by
the
end
of
tonight
and
I'll
stop
I
mean
we
could
stop
right
at
the
beginning,
so
we
have
to
keep
saying
different
departments,
but
if
you
have
any
cuts
or
any
ideas
speak
up
now
or
forever
hold
your
peace
last
thing
I
want
to
hear-
and
I
want
to
be
honest-
is
nobody
speak
up?
Nobody
say
nothing
and
then
come
next
week.
I
vote
no
on
the
budget.
A
B
B
B
A
A
B
B
C
B
A
B
A
A
A
Here
we
go,
I'm
giving
you
where
you're
going
to
say
angela,
you
can't
not
pay
somebody
you're
going
to
have
a
listen
you're
going
to
have
a
lawsuit,
stop
the
overtime.
You
stop
the
hiring!
You
stop
something
we
do
extras
more
with
less.
A
You
get
an
expert
over
here
to
start
upstairs
and
work
his
way
down
all
the
way
down
to
the
recreation
department,
where
we're
losing
money
where
we're
not
losing
money,
because
obviously
we
can't
put
it
together,
but
the
only
thing
we
could
put
together
is
what
five
high
school
kids
could
put
together
and
that's
raise
taxes.
You
don't
need
me
here
to
raise
taxes.
None
of
us
got
to
be
here
to
raise
taxes,
just
let
the
managers
stay
here.
A
You
know
what
3.5
interest
this
year,
we're
all
set:
3.5
percent
next
year,
4.2
percent,
whatever
you're
going
to
do
there'll,
be
a
nymcal
poop.
Anybody
can
do
that
again.
You
can
get
your
daughter
and
my
niece
over
here
to
do
that.
Come
on.
You
say
you
want
to
cut.
You
don't
want
to
cut
all
right,
let's
fight
it!
It's
about
time.
It's
unsustainable!
A
B
C
B
Think
fred,
you
just
want
to
give
an
update
on
one
of
the
salaries
in
here
sure.
D
One
of
the
things
I
proposed,
my
assistant
notified
me
that
she's
going
to
be
leaving,
so
what
I've
offered
is
that
I'll
make
this
a
part-time
position
and
it
will
share
the
part-timer.
That's
currently
with
hr,
we'll
create
a
full-time
position
part-time
in
my
office,
part-time
in
her
office.
D
D
D
This
is
just
finishing
up
the
that
project,
so
it's
you'll
notice.
There
was
30
000
the
previous
two
years
each
year
to
pay
for
the
consultant
to
do
that
and
there's
just
an
additional
7
000
to
cover
any
overages
that
might
be
there.
We
might
not
need
it,
but
the
project's
wrapping
up,
hopefully
by
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
but
timing
wise.
We
might
end
up
with
meetings
with
the
state
because
they
have
to
approve
it,
and
the
consultant
needs
to
be
on
board
for
that.
B
Any
questions
on
the
planning
human
planning
board-
I
mean
planner
human
resources.
D
It's
still
part-time
in
her
budget
it'll
be
part-time
in
my
budget.
So
that's
where
the
savings
realize
so
the
savings
is
in
your
budget,
it'll
be
a
full-time
person,
but
we're
just
going
to
share
the
individual.
It
makes
it
so
that
when
she's
located
in
one
spot
or
the
other,
she
can
see
directly
across
the
hall
to
the
other.
So
if
something
comes
up
needs
our
attention
that
flexibility
is
there,
so
there's
no
change.
B
10
000.
yep
for
the
sunshine
fund.
I
mean
non-profit
organizations
which
last
year
we
gave
five
thousand
to
the
police,
memorial
and
five
thousand
to
the
station.
E
B
B
C
B
Tax
collector
yep-
I
don't
feel
it's
feasible
at
this
moment,
but
personally
I
think
if,
if
we
want
to
cut,
we
have
some
sort
of
higher
increase.
We've
got
to
stop
headcount
at
some
point.
E
Would
be
a
little
less
than
30
000.
the
total
savings
for
that
position
benefits
as
well
as
the
salaries.
Fifty
nine
five,
eight
five,
nine
two.
D
C
E
C
I
was
gonna,
ask
the
same
question:
can
you
re-explain
that
I
can
please
in
the
contract
it's
and
there's
a
provision
that
says
if
they
go
to
college
and
they
can
if.
C
A
B
C
B
B
B
That's
one
of
the
new
perks:
a
lot
of
businesses
are
offering
my
my
place
for
employment.
We
offer
six
thousand
dollars
each
year
for
anybody
as
long
as
that's
something
to
do
like.
So,
if.
F
C
E
B
B
B
C
D
Time
you
shifted
a
thousand
dollars
out
of
election
expenses
up
to
overtime,
so
they
can
get
those
extra
meetings.
But
that's
it's
a
wash
yeah.
A
B
A
Where
are
you
you?
We
are
we're
putting
down
150
000.
from
my
understanding
when
they're
looking
at
papers,
they're
charging
150
to
look
at
three
sentences,
I
mean
I
got
to
get
them
papers
myself.
I
want
to
go
through
that
step
by
step
with
legal.
Then
you
have
a
a
a
prosecutor
that
wants
what
ten
thousand
dollar
raise.
A
I
think
we
ought
to
have
an
executive
session
and
talk
about
prosecute
in
fees
and
fees.
C
B
B
D
14.
14
was
actually
from
all
the
negotiations
going
to
the
courts.
Getting
all
those
agreements
finalizing.
B
In
there
15
was
263
16
254.
270
for
17,
so
far
are
adopted,
so
279
will
be.
D
C
E
D
Right
now,
it's
mike
urcillo.
E
F
A
A
I
think
we
ought
to
get
together
on
this,
though,
on
legal
discuss,
different
options
and
stuff,
I
think
it's
time
to
get
together
and
re
reevaluate
our
situation
there
long
overdue.
B
Want
to
live
want
to
like
elaborate.
C
E
B
B
E
E
B
Management,
any
questions
on
that
ema
equipment.
So
far
this
year
we've
used
zero.
So
what's
that
2900?
How
are
we
going
to
use
it.
F
E
A
Yeah
but
then
you're
back
in
the
same
boat,
you
need.
You
need
reform
about
everything
you
can't
just
you
need
reform,
you
need.
You
need
to
re-examine
I've.
Been
I've
been
a
big
complainer
about
people
on
disabilities
to
have
them
brought
back
to
let
them
get
re-certified.
I.
A
E
D
No
so
so
john
could
probably
explain
this
better,
but
the
general
accounting.
C
E
If
there
was
anybody
here,
it's
just
the
medical,
so
now
we
have
to
disclose
that
liability
on
the
financial
statements.
So
therefore
it
looks
like
that
by
having
that
liability,
you
can
see
your
liabilities
are
that
much
higher
now
by
about
60
million
for
pop
requirements.
However,
what's
different
about
the
op
versus
the
pension?
Is
we
the
town
budgets
within
the
general
government,
the
amount
to
be
paid
for
the
retiree
health
care
costs?
C
E
C
E
C
D
It's
not
a
requirement
yet
that
we
fund
ope.
It
is
a
requirement
as
of
this
year
that
we
report
it.
This
is
the
first
year
we've
been
funding
it
now
for
two
years,
which
was
ahead
of
the
game,
we're
one
of
the
first
to
establish
an
opeb
trust,
so
we're
we're
doing
well,
we
like
to
keep
the
momentum
going
there,
but
again
we
have
no
intention
of
not
funding
out
of
the
budget
retiree
healthcare
for
a
very
long
time.
D
B
B
E
F
B
D
It's
basically
the
fund
balance.
What
we're
talking
about
here
so
general
practice
is
we.
We
want
to
see
at
least
five
percent
of
the
budget,
which
is
the
it's
by
charter
right.
The
charter.
D
But
the
state
state
looks
for
five
percent
and
the
rating
agencies
live
for
five
percent.
We're
we're
nowhere
near
that
right
now,
because
we've
had
two
deficit
years
in
a
row,
which
is
why
you
have
a
fund
balance
to
handle
any
kind
of
adjustments
that
need
to
be
made.
Something
happens
that
we
have
to
respond
quickly
to
it's,
not
part
of
the
budget.
That's
what
that
money's
there.
For
so
what.
D
D
One
time,
and
ideally
things
like
that,
you
plan
in
the
in
the
capital
budget
for
but
in
in
the
past
years
you
know
we've
chipped
away
at
those
things
and
the
deficits
that
you
know
we
ran
on
the
audit
technically
would
come
out
of
that.
So
we
want
to
make
that
back
up.
So
that's
why
we
recommended
250
000.
I
think
it's
prudent
to
hold
that
there,
because
it's
something
that
you
know
it's
it's
just
going
to
be
money
there.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
like
we're
spending
it
on
anything.
E
Minimal
but
yeah
still
cash
involved
with
this.
This
is
money
that
actually
is
part
of.
The
budget
will
be
revenues
that
will
be
collected
that
will
actually
go
into
the
general
fund.
The
one
account
that
we
do
have
the
operating
account,
because
what
we
have
is
cool
cash.
We
have
one
checking
account
or
one
cash
account
that
handles
all
of
the
deposits
from
the
revenues,
as
well
as
all
of
the
expenses
that
we
paid
out.
So
it
actually
helps
us
to
keep
the
cash
balance.
B
E
A
B
C
B
D
Is
that
so
much
different?
The
department
requested
an
increase
for
the
for
the
deputy
and
based
upon
our
discussion.
A
B
D
B
C
This
was
yes,
it
was
serving
two
offices.
E
B
Board
of
assessment
review,
I
got
25.96
same
as
the
manager.
Any
questions
on
that
should
be
basic
police
department.
D
D
D
Do
pay
we
we
get
a
revenue
from
them,
you'll
see
on
the
revenue
sheet
that
I
asked
before.
I'm
sure.
E
God's
sro
or
school
resource
officer,
you'll,
see
in
the
revenue
you'll
see,
there's
approximately
100
change
that
we
get
reimbursed
from
the
school
department,
but
they
actually
get
paid
out.
Okay,.
B
I
know
this
really
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
budget.
Well,
maybe
it
does.
Maybe
we
cut
head
count,
but
I
got
a
phone
call
last
week
and
I
meant
to
send
off
an
email
to
chief,
but
it
seems
like
there's
a
crossing
god
who
leaves
their
post
early
here
to
go
over
to
wakefield
hills,
but
leaves
this
unattended
for
a
good
25-30
minutes
to
get
over
to
there.
So
you
might
want
to
just
check
into
that.
B
D
Issue
would
have
to
do
with
variants
in
school
start
times.
It's.
B
It's
strange
because
this
one
starts
at
7
30
but
they're
leaving
near
I
mean
a
quarter
of
eight
but
they're
leaving
at
7
30
and
the
kids
are
still
walking.
Okay,
there's
still
one
crossing
guard
there,
but
I
just
don't
know:
there's
one
stopping
traffic
to
no
cars
to
go
into
the
parking
lot,
the
teacher's
parking
lot
and
then
there's
one
that
lets
the
kids
cross.
There's
one
down
the
bottom
of
the
hill,
the
one.
A
A
B
A
Let
me
ask
a
question:
I
don't
remember
is
a
contractual
that
we
have
so
many
brass,
whether
in
the
fire
department
or
police
department
like
in
other
words,
do
you
need
one-third
of
them
to
be
captains,
majors,
lieutenants
sergeants,
with
all
these
promotions
with
upper
class
pay.
That
turns
out
to
be
thousands
hundreds.
A
D
A
I
don't
remember
ever
seeing
that
in
a
contract
that
we
have
to
have
so
many
brass,
it's
like
at
the
sewer
plan.
I
said
one
time
before
I
started
you
had
all
bosses
and
no
workers
at
the
time.
I
think,
12
years
ago
I
think
you
had
15
bosses
and
and
four
employees
for
four
maintenance,
guys,
which
is
ridiculous.
I
think
they
got
more
of
a
handle
on
that.
You
only
got
a
chief
in
a
foreman
and-
and
so-
and
I
don't
remember
where
that
changed,
but
I
always
been
thinking
this
too.
How
many?
A
How
many
more
promotions
can
we
afford?
I
understand
people
should
be
able
to
climb
the
ladder,
but
I
mean
what
we're
doing
here
is
creating
more
and
more
and
more
expense
on
this.
It's
getting
out
of
control.
So
I'm
just
wondering
you
can
certainly
take
a
look
at
the
structure.
Yeah.
A
B
B
A
Work
except
you
have
road
supervisors,
you
have,
I
mean
same
thing
in
the
fire
department.
You
got
battalion
chiefs,
you
got.
You
got
four
battalion
chiefs
well
when
we
get
on
that
I'll
go
through
that,
but
I
was
just
wondering:
is
that
set
in
stone?
How
many
of
these
that
we
need
in
eight
square
miles?
I
mean
you
know.
What
do
we
need.
D
B
That
you
look
at
the
patrol
officers.
A
lot
of
them
have
less
than
five
years
experience
right
now
and
they're
all
hitting
their
fifth
year,
which
I
qualify
for
longevity
at
that
point.
So
next
year,
you'll,
probably
you
might
see
this
go
up.
They
might
not
get
longevity,
it
depends
on
the
contract,
but
I
think
police,
the
first
five
years.
They
don't
get
longevity.
E
B
C
C
A
E
E
C
D
E
C
C
A
B
D
B
D
That
would
be
in
the
school
department's
budget
in
terms
of
what
they
actually
get
paid,
so
what
school
department?
No,
we
pay
them,
but
we
get
reimbursed
by
the
school
department,
so
those
numbers
if
they
determine
that
it
needs
to
be.
If
there's
an
increase
or
not
that's
driven
by
the
school
committee.
C
B
You
cut
the
overtime
by
a
hundred
thousand.
Is
that
how
is
that
going
to
be
controlled?
Because
if
I
look
at
the
actuals
for
the
last
three
years
four
years,
it's
been
well
above
that
so
next
year
I
don't.
I
mean
I
understand
we
want
to
keep
it
at
650
and
even
maybe
even
lower,
but
in
the
end
of
the
year.
I
don't
want
to
see
this
line
being
650
and
all
of
a
sudden
we're
spending
9.36.
D
No,
I
agree,
and
it's
so
it's
something
that
I've
talked
to
the
major
to
the
colonel,
about
about
making
sure
that
you
know
we
do
a
better
job
controlling
that
and
to
their
credit
I
would
say
that,
even
in
the
years
that
they've
gone
over
in
overtime,
they've
made
it
up
in
other
areas
of
their
budget,
so
they've
been
able
to
keep
it
pretty
much
consistent.
D
So
I
you
know
rely
on
the
department
heads
to
make
sure
that
they're
able
to
account
for
that
as
best
they
can
and
if
they
go
over
then
we'll
address
it.
Then,
but
it's
an
issue.
One
of
the
things
we've
been
doing
is
trying
to
get
a
head
start
on
candidates
in
the
in
the
academy.
When
we
know
that
there's
a
retirement
coming,
we've
asked
you
know,
paperwork
be
put
in
early
as
part
of
their
contract.
D
We
provide
an
extra
stipend
if
they
give
us
nine
months
head
start,
so
we
can
get
that
trainee
through
the
system
and
train
so
that
we
can
have
them
ready
to
go
when
that
individual
retires
and
we
have
a
couple
of
those
that
are
in
place
coming
up.
So,
accounting
for
those
we're
hopeful
that
we
can
get
the
number
back
in
check,
but
if
not,
then
it's
up
to
the
department
head
to
try
to
work
those
numbers
in
if
you
feel
like
it
should
be
more
absolutely
more.
D
A
D
Well
again,
that's
the
difference
between
15
to
17.
You
added
the
benefits
in
that
weren't
part
of
that.
So
that's
not
the.
D
Gone
up
about
100
and
000
in
that
time
span,
and
there
are
various
reasons
for
that.
But
it's
it's
not
it's
not.
C
C
A
A
Hybrid
speaker,
I
don't
think
a
police
car
should
go
over
50
miles
an
hour.
There
shouldn't
be
any
high
speed
chases,
because
you're
making
the
network
crazier
right.
It
shouldn't
be
where
we
we
were.
I
don't
know
if
we
still
are,
but
this
council
was
totally
against
matter
of
fact.
We
gotta
we
gotta
a
thing
and
that
no
high
speed
chases
in
town,
if
I'm
not,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
we.
B
Don't
have
an
audience,
but
we,
the
the
previous
chief,
understands
that
I
think
the
police
department
understands
when
the
severity
of
the
case
they're
not
gonna,
pursue
it,
but
also
you
gotta,
remember
something
you
might
not
think
they're
doing
a
high-speed
chase,
but
dave
gosling's,
getting
held
up
at
his
local
convenience
store
and
we're
all
locked
in.
You
think
they
want
to
do
22
miles
an
hour
to
the
year.
B
C
C
D
Was
john
furrier,
as
you'll
recall,
we
do
have
two
electric
vehicles
in
the
capital
budget
for
for
town
vehicles
so
for
for
building
inspections
yeah,
and
we
also
have
the
electric
chargers
as
part
of
this
in
our
capital
budget
as
well.
So
we
are
moving
in
that
direction.
It
will
take
a
while
to
convert.
C
The
trend
has
been
more
in
the
twenty
thousand
dollar
range
last
year
was
thirty
thousand
proposes
forty
thousand,
but
the
actual
spent
for
half
a
year
so
far
has
only
been
one
thousand,
so
is.
Is
the
education
piece
well.
D
C
D
Under
his
justification
on
the
second
page
of
his
justification
under
education,
he
said
he
would
request
a
budgeted
amount,
be
increased
by
10,
000
or
accurately
reflect
expenses,
and
and
then
he
gives
you
the
rundown
of
the
expenses.
It's
certainly
something
you
can,
it
doesn't
match.
What's
on
the
yeah?
No
it
does.
He
gives
you
the
numbers,
no.
B
B
D
Yeah
he's
got
some
younger
recruits
in
now.
So
it's
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
where
he's
he's,
anticipating
that,
based
upon
you
know
the
age
of
the
of
the
force.
Now
that
he's
probably
going
to
see
it
an
uptick
in
that.
But
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
best
guess
because
he
doesn't
know
going
into
the
year.
Necessarily
if
someone
is
unless
someone's
already
in
a
degree
program-
and
he
knows
they're
going
to
continue-
he
can
budget
the
best
he
can.
But
then
the
new
people
also
have
that
opportunity,
because
it
is
contractual
right.
A
B
A
D
There's
there's
a
wage
reopener
that
we're
in
the
process
and
we've
you
know,
we've
had
those
conversations
based
upon
where
we're
at
in
the
budget
it
you
know
it
doesn't
look
like
there
could
be
any
wage
increases.
That's
all
that's.
D
A
A
We
come
to
this
when
you
want,
when
you
know
where
you
can
come,
where
you
think
it's
unbelievable,
that
people
wouldn't
believe
you
couldn't
make
this
stuff
up
on
some
of
the
things
in
the
contracts
and
for
past
sins
and
our
own
sense,
where
we
made
it
so
unsustainable
and
we
kick
a
can
down
the
road
and,
in
the
end
the
cans
are
gonna.
Wear
out,
there's
no
more
can
so
we
our
hands,
are
tied.
A
B
A
B
A
B
C
D
C
D
The
new
position
that's
being
proposed,
the
ems
trainers
that
we
call
chief.
F
B
F
Forget
back
in
oh
wait:
there
was
supposed
to
be
eight
wall
guys
on
this
department
because
they
put
the
second
restaurant
service
full
time.
The
council
agreed
to
the
second
rescue,
but
not
the
extra
manpower.
So
now
that
kept
the
department
at
15
on
ship
before
it
used
to
be
15
and
13
minutes
before
the
second
rescue
was
put
in
service
full
time,
but
the
extra
manpower
was
never
added.
F
F
B
A
B
For
the
record,
I
can
tell
you
right
now-
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
myself
and
jim
thomas
spent
hours
up
at
the
state
house,
petitioning
to
our
former
speaker
of
the
house
and
our
senate
finance
chairperson
at
the
time
which
were
both
from
west
warwick.
We
spent
many
hours
at
that
state
house
trying
to
get
them
to
cover
that
and
that
never
came
to
fruition.
So
the
town
did
have
to
go
into.
A
B
But
we
tried
to
get
the
state
to
pay
for
the
the
lawsuit
portion
of
it.
It
didn't
happen.
A
B
I
said
myself
and
jim
thomas
went
up
there
and
I
remember
it
too,
a
t,
because
I
remember
the
conversation
I
just
was
she
had
this
conversation
with
fred.
I
think
we
kind
of
chuckled,
because
we
said
what
you
know
jim's
mouth
was
is
what
blew
up
for
us
that
day,
but
I'm
telling
you
that
I
know
I
damn
well
went
up
there
and
tried
to
petition
for
it,
and
I
tried
to
petition
for
them
to
take
over
the
fire
marshals.
There.
A
A
B
F
B
F
Why
the
technically
not
because
that
position
is
or
what
he,
what
that
position
is
the
new
guy
coming
in
is
the
actual.
A
E
C
A
A
A
No,
he
didn't
so.
I
said
that
I
said
to
him
frank:
all
I
want
to
tell
you
is
we're
on
board.
We
took
a
vote
5-zip
so
do
what
you
got
to
do.
Call
the
manager.
Whatever
you
got
to
do
so,
he
said
to
either
you
or
williamson.
He
says
he's
got
no,
no,
no
responsibility.
C
A
Action
suit
with
a
few
communities
who
raised
that
the
water
department
county.
C
A
B
A
B
E
B
Also
know
we
we've
just
sent
gentlemen
out
to
another
area
for
training
and
the
union's
not
happy
about
it.
They
file
agreements.
You
know,
chiefs
tries,
you
know
whatever
happens,
to
save
money.
I
also
hear
you
know
if
we
use
people
on
light
duty,
we're
taking
away
their
overtime
that
stuff
irks
me.
I
mean
like
duty.
People
should
be
able
to
do
light
duty
work
if
you're
gonna
drive
a
truck
to
a
scene,
not
a
fire
truck
but
any
type
of
pickup
truck
or
something
to
help.
B
Somebody
else
out
when
you're
on
light
duty,
gas
pedal
and
a
steering
wheel
should
be
able
to
handle
it.
As
long
as
you
don't
have
leg
problems
around
problems,
I
think
we
should
utilize
it.
We
shouldn't
be,
I
you
know,
I
get
the
same
reports
that
other
people
do.
You
know,
meetings
happen
and
people
discuss
how
they're
taking
away
our
overtime
we're
not
taking
away
anything.
We
need.
We
need
to
save
money
in
overtime,
and
it's
not
just.
I
don't
hear
from
the
chief
I
hear
from
other
employees.
We
spend
too
much
overtime.
C
B
B
You
know
a
lot
of.
It
was
detail,
I'm
not
going
to
banter,
but
you
know
the
fire
one
I'd
like
to
know
where
all
the
overtime
and
why
the
overtime,
if
it's
sick
days,
vacation
days
what
it
may
be,
I'm
sure
we
have
that
broken
down
on
hr.
How
many
times
a
guy
calls
out.
I
mean
if
there's
an
excessive
call
out,
then
they're
disabusing
the
system
because
they're
working
two
days
three
days
a
week
on
the
front
line
and
they're
working
96
to
100
days
a
year
and
they're
calling
out
30
of
the
time.
B
B
A
It's
sad
go
on
the
computer.
It's
all
public
information
go
look
at
other
communities
with
more
than
eight
square
miles.
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you
what
just
look
at
it
see
how
many,
how
many
people
they
have
working
in
police
fire
school,
whatever
go!
Take
a
look
with
triple
our
population,
triple
the
mileage
square
miles
that
we
are
you'd,
be
amazed
how
they
can
do
it
with
a
budget
that
they
have
just
take
a
look
at
it.
Anybody
it's
sad.
A
A
C
A
C
Not
right
now,
I'm
not.
I
understand
what
the
chief
is
saying
and
the
need
for
it
in
the
advocacy,
but.
F
There's
so
many
state
meetings
in
all
that,
if
I,
if
we
had
a
full-time
guy
he'd,
be
at
all
these
advisory
board
meetings
of
the
state
and
all
that
and
have
an
input
for
west
warwick,
we
don't
have
anybody
sitting
or
going
to
these
meetings,
the
ems
conferences
and
all
that
and
bringing
it
back.
I
can't
do
everything
can.
F
C
A
It's
contractual
not
what
we're
doing
we're
putting
another
another
seat,
another
person
in
a
contractual
position
where
we
can't
afford
to
pay
what
we
have
now
we're
putting
more
burden
on
the
taxpayers.
I
understand
what
the
chief's
saying
believe
me.
I
got
more
respect
for
the
chief
when
it
comes
to
this
there's
dollars
to
dollars.
We
can't
afford
no
new
trucks,
no
new
cars,
it's
that's
it.
People
are
closing
down
shop.
You
might
have
one
shop
coming
in.
You
got
three
going
out.
F
We
also
have
another
problem:
when
we
do
our
ems
training,
we
bring
all
our
trucks
down
here,
we're
in
service.
We
get
a
call,
the
trucks
are
out
they're
in
it,
they're
in
and
out
in
and
out
they
try
to
keep
these
guys
in-house.
We
can't
do
it
unless
we
hire
more
guys
to
operate
trucks
while
they're
in
class
by
having
a
full-time
guy.
F
He
can
do
this
all
day
long,
so
as
the
as
the
trucks
are
out
and
they
come
in,
he
can
get
him
up
to
speed
and
then
the
state
protocols
and
all
the
mandates
of
state
has
come
down
ems
it
it's
it's
ridiculous.
We
we
need
some.
B
F
And
pretty
much
it's
not
a
life
in
debt
situation.
I
didn't
bring
my
copy
up
with
me,
but
when
you
add
the
hundred
ten
thousand
dollars,
hydrants
went
up
all
all
the
holiday
and
everything
that
came
back.
If
you
go
back
and
add
that
on
I'm
pretty
much
balanced
from
level
funded
for
me
here
we
go
so.
B
I
still
say
chief,
if
you
bring
them
on
and
send
them
to
a
meeting
in
four
hours.
I
still
say
it's
cheaper
with
overtime
and
I
hate
to
say
it
that
way.
I
know
your
overtime
goes
up,
but
it's
still
a
lot
cheaper
than
overtime.
A
C
How
many
hours
per
week,
like
average,
how
many
conferences
per.
F
C
F
Someone
there
all
day
to
keep
an
eye
on
this
running
all
the
ems
billing,
the
the
reports
that
we
get
the
request
for
reports,
because
that
that
that
all
then
falls
on
the
burden
of
my
administrative
assistant.
F
B
Did
you
know
kelsey
here
I
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
why
and-
and
you
just
said,
there's
three
conferences.
I
want
to
say.
F
B
Like
a
breakdown
of
all
the
overtime
in
the
fire
department
and
the
reasons
sick
time,
vacation
time
and
whatever
it
may
be
right
now,
I
can't
support
this
position
until
I
get
that.
F
B
B
A
B
B
B
I
know
where
we
stand
this
year
and
we're
looking
at
a
three
2.8
increase
or
2.7
percent
tax
increase,
and
next
year
we
could
be
looking
at
a
3.75,
but
we
can't
cut
that
position
next
year
because
it's
already
in
the
budget
and
that's
the
only
reason
I
support
it.
I
I
have
pride
in
your
fire
department.
That's
why
I'm
pushing
for
a
better
fire
living
quarters
for
your
individuals,
but
I
just
right
now,
eighty
one
thousand
dollars
considering
what
they
said
earlier
and
I
I
just
don't
feel
we.
A
C
B
And
just
to
go
back
to
the
hydrants
real
quick
we've
responded
to
attorney
a
reed,
which
is
the
attorney
that
sent
us
the
letter.
The
only
two
communities
so
far
that
have
joined
is
west
warwick
and
east
greenwich
and
he'll,
be
speaking
to
fung.
Avedijian
tomorrow
have
not
had
a
lawyer's
meeting
yet
so
we've
responded.
We
just
haven't
responded
to
frank:
we've
responded
to
an
attorney
who
sent
us
the
letter,
so
I'm.
B
A
I'm
just
a
guy
that
relayed
a
message
that
I
got
a
call
last
night
that
said
that
we
weren't
answering.
D
Had
an
escalator
in
it,
two
percent.
D
Two
percent,
I
think,
but
then
the
tipping
fees
that
you'll
see
are
all
also
there
under
solid
waste.
That
represents
the
increase
that
we.
B
You
got
to
look
at
some
of
the
council
knew
one
of
the
reasons
why
it
was
privatized,
oji,
maintenance
on
vehicles
buying
all
new
trucks,
the
new
garbage.
You
know
the
bins
we
did
purchase,
but
if
we
had
to
buy
all
them
trucks,
it
would
have
cost
us
a
couple
of
million
dollars.
There
was
no
way
we
could
do
it
and
also
go
with
automation.
C
B
Me
I
wish
we
could
buy
all
new
trucks
and
have
our
guys
do
it,
because
at
least
when
I
have
a
complaint,
I
can
get
that
result.
I
mean,
don't
get
me
wrong,
dave
and
fred.
When
I
complain
to
them,
they
try
to
get
it
resolved,
but
at
least
our
guys
we
can
deal
with
our
own,
but
right
now
we
just
could
not
afford
it
at
the
time.
A
Do
we
have
any
anything
new
we're
buying
here
any
equipment,
the.
B
Only
thing
I
had
highlighted
here
was
supplies.
The
only
thing
I
had
in
here
that
I
had
highlighted
for
some
reason
was
solid
waste
and
supplies
and
expensive
that
supplies
and
expenses
that
was
more
for
salt
in
tar
and
whatever
else.
F
B
There's
nothing
in
there
25.5
any
issues
with
that
that
just
basically
supplies
you
to
consumer
engineering
services.
B
A
Yeah,
I
think
he
explained
that
the
building
over
here.
B
D
D
Yeah,
that
was
in
previous
budget
we've
done
several
improvements,
so
we
did
the
roof
over
there.
We
have
some.
E
D
B
B
B
B
D
B
D
C
A
C
B
D
D
C
B
C
B
A
B
A
B
D
B
Well,
you're
utilizing
three
guys
six
months
a
year
and
one.
E
C
D
C
A
B
One
thing
I
could
say
with
the
parks
you
gotta
remember
one
thing:
three
guys
they
run
seven
days
a
week.
They
have
baseball
games
till
10
o'clock
at
night.
Yes,
they
do
shut
the
lights
off.
Yes,
they
do
maintain
the
fields.
Mccarthy
feel
you're
talking
three
guys
doing
that
from
usually
opening
day.
B
B
They
maintain
the
lights
on
and
off,
and
the
girls
softball
field,
which
I
think
they
just
started,
maintaining
a
little
more
because
middle
school
just
moved
there,
that's
their
home
field
other
than
that
they
maintain
race
silver
because
of
the
amount
of
money
they
put
into
that.
What
do
you
mean
by
maintaining
so
after
the
field's
done
played
on
they
come
out?
They
rake
it.
They
drag
it.
They
do
everything
professionally.
B
With
the
with
the
instead
of
me,
taking
a
tractor
out
there
and
destroying
the
field
myself,
they
come
out
with
their
machine
and
they
go
back
and
forth
figure.
Eight,
it
all
the
way
across
they
rake
the
mounds.
They
maintain
it.
We
put
ten
thousand
dollars
on
the
infield
last
year
and
I
want
to
say
sixty
to
eighty
thousand
dollars
in
total
in
the
outfield
which
was
paid
for
by
this
helped
by
the
school
department,
some
of
my
money
and
some
of
cdbg
money,
but
they
put
a
lot
of
money
into
that
field.
B
B
And
I
can
tell
you
right
now
and
you
and
I
have
had
this
conversation,
you
know
and
I've
compared
it
to
other
cities
and
towns
across
the
board
carbon
street
wall.
You
got
one
two
million
dollar
recreational
budgets
and
we're
sitting
here
on
our
budget
of
300
something
thousand
dollars.
That's
the
only
you
know,
trust
me
I'd
like
to
give
them
six
more
people
down
there
to
help
them
out
during
the
year,
but
and
plus
they
bring
on
some
part-timers
in
the
summer.
B
But
I'll
tell
you
last
year
we
only
had
a
few
people
apply
for
that
position.
So
it's
not
like
it's
the
most
popular
I
I
I'm
down
there.
I
can
tell
you
right
now,
the
last
15
years
I've
been
down
there.
I've
been
a
coach,
I
probably
spend
20
hours
a
week
down
there.
I
can
tell
you
freddie
on
his
off
time
from
work
spends
20
hours
a
week
down
there
with
the
girls,
softball
and
they're
disagreeing.
B
C
B
With
his
department,
so
he
keeps
his
department
down
low
because
he
maintains
the
track
football
field,
the
soccer
fields
down
there.
He
wakefield
hills,
horgan,
you
know
so
they
work
together
and
we
we've
looked
at
consolidating
that
at
one
point,
but
I
mean
for
the
amount
of
guys
in
the
amount
of
work
we
do
it's.
It's
tough
to
three
guys
doing
the
whole
problem.
He.
B
A
C
C
B
Think
that
that
one
fire
station
should
have
a
lawnmower
and
take
care
of
that
one
themselves,
but
that
was
just
my
opinion.
You
know
and-
and
that
was
I
got
my
head
chewed
off
for
that
one,
but
I
give
them
credit.
They
do
a
lot
for
three
and
I
don't
want
to
add
more
head
count
there.
But
again
I
mean
we
ca
and
I
I
know
parks
and
rec
you've
been
in
it
and
so
many
I.
C
C
B
A
D
C
B
And
that's
why
I
asked
about
the
summer
programs
up
there,
because
I
know
they're
looking
to
do
volunteer
camp
counseling
counselors
in
training,
well,
14,
15
and
16s.
Don't
want
to
go
in
training
and
go
spend
their
whole
summer
up
there
without
making
a
dollar.
So
that's
why
I
threw
it
out
there
to
laurie
that
hey.
B
Maybe
you
want
to
put
these
camp
counselors
in
ccap
and
have
them
come
in
and
work
for
you
and,
and
that
way
there
these
these
14,
15
and
16s
are
learning
to
make
money
and
wanting
to
go
to
work
and
give
them
a
little
life
lesson
yeah.
You
know
nobody
wants
to
go
work
for
free.
We
all
know
that
you
know
that's.
C
B
B
You
know
you
look
at
it.
As
you
know,
saturday,
they
were
sitting
here.
Freezing
their
rear
ends
off
doing
andy
smith,
rolling
it
out
trying
to
get
it
ready
for
their
first
game.
You
know
ray
silva,
you
know
they're
getting
ready.
You
know
middle
school
had.
I
think
their
first
game
was
today
back
there.
You
know
and
we
had
a
week
of
rain.
C
B
B
Sometimes
they
don't
want
it
because
they
have
a
good
system
going,
but
I
understand
what
you're
saying
but
right
now
I
think
if
we
just
hire
summer
help-
and
I
think
if
we
advertise
it
a
lot
of
things
a
lot
of
times-
it's
college
kids
who
come
home
for
the
summer
and
that's
probably
why
they're
not
applying
yet
they're
still
in
school.
They
might
not
even
know
about
it.
B
B
I
personally,
I
I
think
if
you
expanded
to
16
to
18
or
16
to
whatever
I
think
you
get
better
luck
with
the
high
school
students
than
with
the
college
students
yeah,
but
in
the
past
I
know,
we've
had
younger
kids
14
and
up
that
hurt
themselves.
So
we
got
to
worry
about
using
the
machinery.
B
You
know
we
had
a
chainsaw
incident
with
the
former
building
officials,
son
a
chainsaw
incident.
You
know
and
that's
and
when
something
happens
like
that
at
14
years
old,
we
got
to
ask
questions.
You
know
the
trust's
going
to
ask
questions
what
happened
to
16.
I
can't.
B
B
B
D
B
Weed
whacker
not
yet
again,
we'll
see
how
the
summer
health
goes
again
this
year,
any
issues
on
that
debt
service.
We
really
can't
do
much
about
that.
We
owe
it.
We
owe
it
that's
all
bonds.
B
Capital,
I
got
a
lot
of
things
highlighted
here
for
some
reason,.
C
A
A
A
D
Well,
it
was,
he
has
12
785
from
the
grants.
60
000
was
from
the
detail
fund
right.
B
D
B
Gotta
say:
we've
been
buying
a
lot
of
cars
yeah.
Unfortunately,
we've
destroyed
a
couple.
B
Yes,
they
get
replaced
through
insurance,
it
does
cost
us
a
little,
but
I
mean
we're
not
cutting
it
down
to
zero,
but
I
think
two
in
the
fleet
would
be
not
too
bad
I'll
help
with
his
detective
side
of
it
anyway.
So.
A
E
A
E
B
C
A
A
B
C
B
A
E
A
B
B
A
Again,
what
are
we
in
over
here?
I
know,
I
know
what
fred
just
said
with
the
green,
but
I'm
going
to
tell
you.
I
don't
think
that
we
can
bother
going
with.
I,
I
think,
we're
going
to
have
enough
cars
between
the
police
department
what
their
overages
instead
of
buying
two.
What
are
what
are
we
saving
there.
A
D
Opinion
and
cut
in
half
try
one
for
the
first
year
and
see
how
it
goes
because
this
is
part
of
a
grant
from
the
state,
so
we'll
get
7
500
towards
the
vehicle
from
the
state,
but
we'll
also
get
the
money
for
the
charging
stations
two
charging
stations.
But
in
order
to
be
qualified
for
that,
we
have
to
at
least
get
a
car.
We
have
to
get
a
car
to
get
all
that
yeah
and
that's.
A
B
B
D
Yeah,
it's
just
because
in
looking
at
the
work
that
still
needs
to
be
done
in
terms
of
the
we
have
a
new
it
consultant
on
board
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
they've
found
that
are
wrong
with
our
it
system.
D
These
are
the
improvements
we're
looking
at
doing
so.
That's
why
we
upped
it,
but
it's
something
that
you
know.
If
we
need
to
drop
it
some,
we
can
certainly
do
that.
That's
that's
their
recommendation
again.
It's
security
issues
I.t,
but
we've
made
a
lot
of
improvements
now
already
we'll
continue
to
make
those.
So
if
you
know
we
can
drop
it
some.
If
that's
what
the
council
wants
to
do.
D
Security
and
just
system
integrity
there's
there
were
a
sheet
of
items
that
they've
identified
in
terms
of
network
security
network
controllers
that
need
to
be
replaced.
So
we
want
to
go
through
that
process
and
that's
why
we
put
the
extra
money
in
there.
We
probably
wouldn't
spend
the
full
50
we're
trying
to
put
it
in
there
so
that
we
can
get
it
things
done
this
year
that
we
need
to
get
done.
That's
why
I
said
we
can.
You
know
well.
D
C
D
D
No
no,
this
is
this
is
the
idea.
This
is
a
get
our
system
up
to
where
it
needs
to
get
to,
because
we
already
replaced
the
servers
in
a
previous
budget,
and
these
are
the
issues
that
they've
found
now
they've
gone
through
and
really
done
a
full
audit
of
our
system.
D
D
C
A
Wait
a
minute
where's
dpw:
where
is
it.
C
B
B
A
A
C
A
I
you
know
again
we're
going
to
argue
again,
but
I
I
can't
see
buying
new
vehicles,
you
know
never
buy
new
when
used
will
do
that's
the
saying
I
think
we
could
buy
for
half
of
that.
For
a
third
of
that
you
could
buy
a
beautiful
utility
vehicle,
whether
it
be
through
a
dealer
to
be
true
to
truck
wholesale
site
or
auction
or
whatever.
I
don't
think
that
we
need
a
thirty
thousand
dollar
truck
to
carry
stuff
around.
A
Rather
so
that's
my
opinion.
I
don't
think
we
need
that
for
that,
for
that
kind
of
work,
it's
not
like
we're
we're
gonna
go
100
thousand
miles
a
day.
C
A
2011
and
had
the
all
the
side
compartments
matter
of
fact,
there
were
national
grid
trucks,
2010s
2011
2012.
I
think
they
were
going
for
seven,
eight,
nine
grand
how
many
miles
I
don't
know.
Twelve
thousand
eighteen
thousand
now
with
national
2020,
I'm
telling
you
yeah
yeah.
B
A
A
B
B
Great
is
that
you
get
two
prices.
Two
use
prices
you
go
to
where
police
off
colony,
four,
wherever
you
want
and.
A
C
A
C
C
B
E
B
C
B
A
B
B
E
B
B
B
C
B
B
B
C
E
B
B
A
B
B
B
We
can
have
this
for
thursday.
Let
me
just
do
a
calculator.
B
B
A
A
B
B
I
know
how
I
feel
arguing
we're
at
1.1
million
dollars
that
we
need
to
raise
or
find
what
do
you
want
to
get
it?
That's
the
question
you
got
to
know
until
thursday
to
figure
it
out.
Gentlemen.
At
this
point,
anybody
have
any
questions
from
the
audience
concerns
comments.
We
have
just
for
the
record
one
private
citizen
here
and
he's
under
the
age
of
18..
B
Everybody
else
is
either
well,
I'm
sorry
nate
other
than
that
everybody
else
is
either
a
town
employee.
You
think.
C
B
I
just
want
to
point
out
I'm
pointing
it
out,
because
in
two
weeks
when
individuals
say
vote
this
budget
down
and
whoever
that
may
be
and
angela
I
know
you
already
said
you're
not
supporting
the
budget.
Okay,
nope,
I'm
one
and
he's
gonna
be
up.
There
saying
vote
the
budget
down.
I
don't
go
up
there,
but
yet
these
people
aren't
educated
on
the
budget
because
they
don't
even
I
don't
know,
who's
watching.
So
that
could
be
a
hundred
people
at
home.
I
don't
know
it
could
be
a
hundred.
A
C
B
Email
call
or
show
up
here:
that's
the
only
three
ways
to
get
it.
Let
us
know
I
mean
I've
gotten
calls
saying
I
don't
want
tax
increases,
I've,
never
gotten
any
calls
to
say
dave.
What
about
this
and
the
budget?
There
was
only
one
person
I
used
to
come
here
and
question
his
budget
every
year,
which
was
paul,
kai
and
ello
senior.
Yes,
I
remember
that,
that's
about
it
and
he
would
ask
questions.
B
B
F
B
Hit
me
with
everything-
and
it's
usually
somebody
who's
going
to
benefit-
ought
to
hit
me
with
everything
you
know,
because
it's
it's
pay
raises
it's
it's
whatever
it
may
be,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify:
there
is
no
actual
increa.
There's
increases
based
upon
longevity
and
all
that,
but
there's
no
salary
increases
in
this
budget
whatsoever.
B
As
far
as
raising
it,
one
percent
two
percent
and
our
town
employees
have
gone
without
a
contractual
pay
raise
for
the
past
few
years.
Almost
six
years,
they've
gotten
other
raises
through
promotions
through
longevity
and
through
whatever
else,
and
that's
why
I'm
saying
there's
no
town
employee
who
says
their
pay
hasn't
gone
up
over
the
past
five
years
but
physically.
B
When
I
first
came
on
this
council,
I
remember
there
was
one
council
person
who
said
we're
only
going
to
give
a
raise
for
one
day
that
year
and
lobbied
for
the
pay
raise
increase,
we're
not
realizing
yeah
you
only
one
day
that
year,
but
you're
going
to
pay
it
every
year
after
that,
because
I'm
a
firm
believer
that
you
know
and
I've
seen
this
in
the
past,
where
other
council
members
have
pushed
to
get
more
in
health
care.
B
Well,
I'm
sitting
there
saying
we're
trying
to
get
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
out
of
health
care,
but
we're
giving
three
percent
raises,
which
is
a
million
dollars.
Why
are
we
doing
that?
I'd
rather
give
them
the
300
I'd,
rather
give
them
the
health
care
and
get
less
raises,
but
unfortunately,
that
didn't
go
in
my
my
favor.
That
was
different
councils
back
in
0.50607.
C
B
Me
the
pay
raise,
don't
worry
about
my
contribution,
but
20
years
later
it
came
to
a
head
and
said:
well
now
we
need
contributions.
Unfortunately,
those
people
in
the
80s
and
90s
are
fully
probably
retired,
now
and
off
in
in
florida
or
wherever,
and
unfortunately,
the
employees
over
here
now
are
paying
for
it.
And
that's
and
that's
unfortunate.
B
I
mean
our
town,
employees
and
I'll
not
take
anything
away
from
them.
They
they
work
their
butts
off
every
employer.
I
don't
care
where
it
is.
Has
that
five
percent
that
may
abuse
the
system
or
whatever
but
majority
of
our
employees,
95
of
our
employees,
work
their
butts
off
and
give
everything
they
can
to
this
community?
B
You
know
it's
hard
to
sit
up
here
and
say:
don't
give
this
don't
give
that
because
we
have
to
worry
about
the
taxpayer.
Also,
you
know
we
have
our
jobs
and
the
department
heads
have
their
jobs.
You
know
and
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
said.
You
know
they
they're
going
to
come
up
here
and
fight
for
everything
they
need
for
their
department
and
we're
going
to
be
the
bad
guys
or
girls
up
here
to
say
no
we're
sorry.
We
can't
give
it
at
this
point.
B
B
B
Time
tonight-
and
I
will
give
the
council
credit
I'll-
give
john
cimino
and
department
heads
and
everybody
that
this
is
the
first
time
out
of
the
the
budget
hearings.
These
are
the
first
cuts
we've
actually
made,
except
for
the
ten
thousand
from
the
council,
which
was
the
last
meeting.
We
got
ten
thousand
plus
an
eight
thousand
dollar
copy
machine,
so
we
cut
eighteen
tonight
we
cut
seven
hundred
and
twenty
seven
thousand,
really
seven
hundred
and
nine
thousand.
B
B
C
B
B
I'm
not
arguing
that,
but
again
I
always
thought
that'd
be
four
or
five
thousand,
but
it
also
you
know.
I've
also
seen
people
harass
other
people
and
that's
what
made
me
lobby,
because
I
remember
a
specific
person
who
came
up
and
spoke
about
the
budget
and
his
grandchild
got
threatened.
Basically
because
his
threat
grandchild
was
special
needs.
Children
and
somebody
walked
up
to
him
and
said
after
everything
we
do
for
your
grandchild.
You're
voting
down
our
budget.
B
A
A
In
my
office
they
call
me
what
the
hell
the
taxes
went
up
again.
Yeah
did
you
vote
against
it
yeah?
Well,
what's
your
name
boom,
you
didn't
go.
You
didn't
even
go
vote.
The
only
sad
part
is
I
gotta
pay
with
you.
So
I
calmed
it
down
last
year
because
they
were
all
screaming
and
I
had
every
name
that
went
and
go
vote.
Well,
there
was
no
tax
increase.
I.
A
B
C
A
Track
they're
walking
dogs
every
day
that
request.