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A
We've
had
some
contentious
meetings
over
the
last
couple
months
and
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
we're
here
and
we're
going
to
be
respectful
of
our
neighbors
and
our
other
people
and
and
as
we
provide
testimony
I'd,
ask
everybody
not
to
cheer,
because
that
kind
of
creates
a
different
mood.
A
So
appreciate
everybody
being
here
and
look
forward
to
some
respectful
dialogue,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
the
roll
call
brenda
blittman
is
here
james
burch
here,
I'm
doug
exton
here,
brad
wickstrom
trevor
brown,
here,
brian
coulson,
air
and
jeremy
roush
here,
okay,
let
the
record
reflect
that
all
the
commissioners
are
here:
we've
got
some
unfinished
business.
We've
got
202
103,
302.
B
A
By
commissioner
coulson
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
to
table
this
item
until
june,
9th
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
B
A
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
a
second
second
by
commissioner
wickstrom,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye.
C
A
A
B
A
Very
much
we
appreciate
it.
Is
there
a
second
second
second,
commissioner
brown,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,.
A
E
E
So
this
is
a
zoning
ordinance
map,
amendment
development
agreement
and
one
time:
division,
application
to
rezone
the
property
from
the
southwest
community,
residential
or
rsw
district
to
the
medium
high
density,
residential
r8
district,
there's
also
a
one-time
division
component
attached
and
that
existing
5.46
acre
parcel
you
see
there
will
be
split
into
a
0.69,
acre
parcel
and
a
4.77
acre
parcel.
The
property
is
addressed
off
of
5
mile
road
as
you'll
see
here.
It's
no
longer
has
access
to
5
mile.
It's
an
old
address
for
the
property.
E
It's
a
general
vicinity
map
here
so,
as
I
stated,
you're
going
to
have
two
buildable
residential
parcels
here
that
are
proposed
of
the
smaller
.69
acre
parcel
will
encompass
the
southwest
corner
of
the
existing
property
and
then
the
remnant
larger
parcel
will
be
4.77
acres
that
4.77
acre
parcel
will
have
its
access
and
frontage
coming
off
of
laos
way
here
up
to
the
north
and
the
existing
residence
and
accessory
building
will
be
a
part
of
that.
4.77
acre
parcel
the
the
smaller
0.69
acre
parcel
is
a
future.
E
As
I
stated,
there's
a
rezone
component
to
this.
Existing
zoning
is
rsw,
as
you
see
there
in
yellow
they're,
going
to
be
rezoning
to
the
r8
zone,
which
is
all
that
surrounding
in
red
and
the
r8.
Zoning
is
a
medium
high
density.
Residential
allows
for
eight
buildable
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
the
r8
zoning
is
compatible
with
boise's
future
land
use
map,
which
designates
the
lot
and
the
surrounding
there,
in
yellow,
as
suburban
staff,
finds
that
this
application
complies
with
the
one-time
division
standards.
It's
also
compatible
with
the
future
land
use
map.
A
I
just
wondered:
the
new
lot
is
the
one
that's
going
to
be
serviced
through
the
city
services
and
the
existing
lot
is
probably
on
a
well
and
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
on
a
well
that.
A
E
Yes,
so
the
the
whole
proper,
so
the
city
of
boise
state
that
they
will
serve
both
lots.
I
don't
know
the
the
applicant
is
here
so
hopefully
they
can
maybe
address
this
further,
but
the
city
did
say
that
they
can
serve
both
lots
and
probably
any
future
development.
With
this
application.
A
F
Hi,
I'm
don
morgan,
pretty
much
as
he
stated
we'd
like
to
build.
We
already
have
a
residence
on
the
larger
portion
there.
It
is
connected
to
boise
city
sewer
and
on
a
will-
and
we
have
a
well-served
letter
to
connect
the
new
lot.
The
resonance
on
the
new
lot
to
boise
city
sewer
and,
and
then
the
water
supply
is
a
it
was
a
private
company.
A
No
ideas
only
questions
I
had.
Are
you
ready
for
questions
we'll
see
if
the
commissioners
have
any
questions
from
the
commissioners
go
ahead.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
two
questions:
were
you
present
at
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
if
so,
if
anybody
attended
what
was
the
disposition
or
or
input
and
and
was
how
was
that
incorporated.
F
We
did
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
and
I
would
say,
the
majority
of
the
people
were
just
curious.
There
was
one
person
that
voiced
concern
about
added
traffic
on
the
olmstead
side.
F
Just
just
there's
a
lot
of
houses
in
there
already
and
they
were
concerned
about
one
more.
There
was
one
person
that
voiced
concern
over
the
the
loss
of
open
space
and,
and
possibly
you
know
the
view
from
the
back
porch
not
being
as
open
as
it
is
now
that
that
was
about
mostly.
It
was
just
curiosity
to
see
what
was
going
on.
D
You
have
one
more
question.
Yes,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
My
second
question
is:
have
you
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
findings
fact
and
the
conditions
of
approval
and
do
you
have
any
opposition
to
any
items
or
conditions.
F
A
Thank
you
any
more
questions
from
the
commissioners.
I
think
we're
good
and
we're
going
to
ask
for
other
people
to
come
forward,
and
then
we
might
come
back
to
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
it.
Is
there
anybody
else
that
would
like
to
talk
about
this
project?
I
don't
have
anybody
on
my
list.
J
A
K
5906
south
fire
glow
avenue,
so
I
am
not
on
the
olmstead
side
of
the
park,
but
the
other
neighborhood
in
the
hazelwood
subdivision.
K
Just
speaking
of
some
of
the
other
homeowners
in
the
area,
the
objection
we
have
is
obviously
I
think
what
anybody
who's
got.
A
home,
that's
living
next
to
a
big
apartment
complex,
would
have,
which
is
the
density
that
comes
with,
that.
I've
lived
in
this
neighborhood,
the
hazelwood
subdivision
now
for
almost
10
years,
and
it's
I'm.
A
Going
to
ask
you
to
pause
just
for
a
second,
this
is:
can
you
put
the
picture
up
again
for
us?
This
is
not
the
hazelwood
subdivision
that
we're
talking
about
yeah.
K
E
Want
to
yeah,
sir,
this
is
a
existing
parcel.
That's
not
a
part
of
any
subdivision
they're
splitting
it
into
two
different
parcels.
One
of
them
will
become
4.77
acres
and
one
will
be
0.69
acres,
there's
no
apartments
or
anything
associated
that
it's
an
another
application
coming
up
here
soon.
I
believe.
K
A
K
So
there's
a
park
just
just
on
the
bottom
of
this
there's
a
neighborhood
park,
that's
the
hazelwood
subdivision
park
and
I
live
at
basically
a
doorway
from
that
park.
Beautiful
neighborhood.
We
lived
there
for
10
years
the
concern,
and
I
think
that
the
neighborhood
objection
is
just
the
density.
This
creates,
I
mean,
there's
a
it
seems
like
there's
a
move
to
pack
homes
and
apartments,
maybe
not
home,
so
much
because
I
understand
that
that
that
needs
to
happen,
but
there's
a
desire
to
stack.
K
You
know
duplexes
and
apartments
every
everywhere
there
is
a
stitch
of
land.
We
lived
in
this
neighborhood
a
long
time.
It's
a
it's
a
beautiful
neighborhood.
The
concern
is
the
increased
traffic,
the
lack
of
the
loss
of
open
space,
I'm
also
wondering,
if
there's
part
of
this
plan
as
any
park
park
space
or
will
the
the
the
residences
butt
right
up
against
that
fence,
which
is
right
next
to
the
park.
K
I
don't
know
if
somebody
can
answer
that
question,
but
those
are
the
concerns
that
I
have
so
I
I
so
just
the
type
of
housing.
How
high
it's
going
to
be
the
the
lack
of
open
space
and
whether
or
not
that
new,
that
new
area
would
have
their
own
park
for
the
the
residents
who
are
moving
in?
A
M
A
N
I
think
there's
quite
a
bit
of
confusion
about
what
is
happening
with
this
property,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
mr
morgan,
I
think
it
was
just
recently
stated
that
there
would
be
one
home
that
would
go
on
that
point.
Six,
nine
acres,
the
rumors
start
flying
we've
heard
apartments
are
going
up
different
things,
so
I
think
there's
a
bit
of
confusion
and
if,
if
somebody
can
help
clarify,
maybe
what
the
future
plan
is,
I
think
that
would
help
a
lot
of
us
know.
What's
going
on.
A
A
There
anybody
else
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
talk
I'm
going
going
gone.
This
is
going
to
be
the
last
time
we
we
do
this
and
so
then
we'll
go
back
to
the
applicant
and
so
we'd
like
the
applicant
to
come
back
and
and
maybe
address
some
of
the
questions
that
the
neighbors
brought
up,
and
that
would
be
awesome.
So
thank
you.
If.
F
I
understood
it
correctly.
The
concern
was
over
whether
there
was
going
to
be
some
kind
of
an
apartment
building
put
there
and
that
that
is
not
what
we're
going
to
do.
F
We're
asking
for
r8
zoning
and
we
want
to
abide
with
all
the
all
the
limitations
that
normal
r8
zoning
allows,
which
would
be
one
building
on
one
lot.
I
don't
know
if
if
a
duplex
might
be
allowed,
then
that
would
be
as
big
as
we
would
go,
but
no
bigger
than
that.
Nothing
apartment-wise.
F
The
open
space
on
that
area
would
be
little
changed
from
what
it
is
right
now.
Did
that
get
your
concern
pretty
well.
Okay,.
J
Mr
morgan,
this
the
open
space
is
just
your
property
right.
I
mean
you
basically
got
five
and
a
half
acres
there.
You
have
a
single
family
home
on
already
that's
there
and
then
you're
going
to
split
that
off
at
0.69
acres,
you're
going
to
put
another
home
on
there,
that's
going
to
be
no
bigger
at
most
than
a
duplex,
and
perhaps
just
one
home,
correct,
correct,
yeah,.
J
F
G
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We
appreciate
it
any
questions
for
mr
birch,
I
mean
sorry,
mr
birch,
mr
lindstrom,
I
have
another
connor
birch
in
my
life.
A
J
As
I
was
saying,
mr
burns,
I
move
based
upon
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
contained
in
the
staff
report.
This
commission
approve
project
number
two:
zero:
two:
two:
zero
zero:
two:
four:
five
dash
z
c
d,
a
dash
o
t
d
subject
in
the
conditions
of
approval
attached,
as
exhibit
a
to
the
staff
report.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
a
second
second,
it's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
exton.
What
discussions
do
people
have
about
this
project,
commissioner?
Wickstrom.
G
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
that
little,
that
0.69
acres
is
going
to
be
coming
off
of
the
old
stead
and
that
that's
the
furthest
one
from
ten
mile
or
five
mile,
and
that's
going
to
be
just
a
very
small
development
with
duplex
it's
just
or
whatever
it
is.
It's
going
to
have
a
minimal
traffic
effect,
the
other
one
if
they
do
ever
develop
the
other
part
of
it.
It's
going
to
go
the
other
way,
with
a
little
better
access
to
five
miles.
G
B
A
Thank
you,
and
my
only
comment
is
that
the
surrounding
area
is
all
r8,
and
so
it's
just
kind
of
what
happens
on
infill
projects
is
that
there
are
eight
because
that's
where
everything
else
is
so
we're
not
making
we're,
not
adding
any
density
to
the
area.
A
So
I'm
ready
to
vote
is
everybody
ready
to
vote
so
all
those
in
favor
of
this
project,
a
motion,
please
say
aye
hi
any
opposed,
and
let
the
minutes
reflect
that
all
the
commissioners
voted
for
this
motion
or
this
project
and
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
one.
The
next
one
is
two
zero.
Two,
two
zero
zero,
two
one
one
s
pr
calla,
lily
greek
subdivision
and
miss
breeding
is
our
staff
person
here.
I
I
The
property
is
located
at
the
southeast
corner
of
west
victory,
road
and
south
mcdermott
road
lots,
17
and
18
of
the
existing
willow
tree
subdivision
in
the
rural
urban
transition
district.
With
a
total
area
of
56
and
a
half
acres,
the
11
lots
will
be
a
5
acre
minimum
which
meets
the
dimensional
standards
for
the
rural
urban
transition.
District.
I
Nine
of
the
lots
will
take
access
from
a
proposed
private
road.
The
private
road
will
originate
from
west
victory.
Road,
we'll
have
a
50-foot
easement
and
a
24-foot
wide
trade,
pavel
trade
paved
travel
way.
Excuse
me,
watts,
1
and
4
will
have
a
shared
access
from
west
victory
road.
The
initial
ada
county,
highway
district
staff
report
did
not
address
this
access.
However,
the
applicant
has
been
working
with
the
highway
district
and
they
are
in
support
of
agreement
to
this
access
point.
I
I
I
There
is
a
platinum
on
willow
on
the
willow
tree
subdivision
plot.
Note
number
nine
that
states
lot
one
lot
17
and
la
18
of
block
one
shall
be
restricted
from
development
until
both
the
following
conditions
have
been
met,
that
the
subject
property
has
received:
development
approval
for
a
zoning
ordinance
map
amendment
to
a
rule
or
residential
district
that
allows
a
minimum
watt
size
of
less
than
or
equal
to
five
acres
and
that
urban
services
are
available
to
the
proposed
development.
I
The
property
is
zoned
rural
urban
transition,
which
has
a
minimum
lot
size
of
five
acres,
which
meets
condition
a.
However
urban
services
are
not
currently
available
to
the
site,
which
is
why
a
vacation
is
required
for
this
application
per
state
code.
The
vacation
part
of
this
application
will
be
heard
by
the
board
of
county
commissioners.
I
I
A
For
any
questions,
thank
you.
What
questions
do
the
commissioners
have
any
questions
when
I
was
looking
through
the
the
details,
there
was
like
a
comment
from
senator
district
health,
and
I
think
it
was
on
page
99
that
talked
about
denial.
Does
that
relate
to
those
lots,
17
and
18,
or.
I
Madam
chair,
that's
correct.
The
the
box
was
checked
for
denial
and
then
the
form
states
that
there
is
that
plat
note
that
exists,
so
it
would
require
a
vacation
and
then
they
stated
it
would
require
a
nutrient
pathogen
study
to
approve
any
new
septic
systems.
A
L
Yeah,
madam
chair,
our
building
department
can
coordinate
with
the
fire
department
on
that,
and
I
mean
if
we
want,
if
you
want
to
include
that
as
a
condition.
You're
welcome
to
include
that,
but
yeah
our
building
department
would
coordinate
with
the
fire
department
on
this
to
they
make
it
a
recommendation
and,
as
I
understand
the
residential
code,
you
can't
outright
require
sprinklers.
L
So
it
has
to
kind
of
be
this
negotiation
between
the
agencies
involved
and,
basically
the
developer,
to
figure
out
if
this
is
the
appropriate
way
to
build
those
homes,
because
there
are
alternatives
to
fire
sprinklers.
So
when
we
have
a
condition
like
that,
we
generally
just
refer
to
the
agency
and
and
have
the
developer
work
directly
with
them.
So
it's
not
a
hard
and
fast.
L
We
won't
allow
them
to
build
without
sprinklers,
it's
considerate
and
then
really
that
is
kind
of
a
follow-up
discussion
with
the
building
department.
After
the
planning
process.
L
You
could
certainly
request
that
ada
county
building
official
gain
approval
from
the
fire
department
prior
to
issuing
permit.
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
that.
So.
A
O
Madam
chair
commissioners,
good
evening,
my
name
is
todd
lakey
with
wharton
lakey
law
address,
141,
east
carleton,
avenue,
meridian,
idaho,
madam
chair
and
commissioners.
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
mr
langston
who's,
the
applicant
on
this
project
and
I'd
like
to
thank
staff
for
their
recommendation.
Their
analysis,
in
this
case
corey's
done
a
very
good
job.
As
was
noted
in
the
staff
report.
It
meets
the
requirements
of
your
preliminary
or
your
subdivision,
ordinance
on
the
preliminary
platinum
zoning
ordinance.
I'm
just
going
to
hit
a
few
of
the
high
points.
Corey
really
covered
it
pretty.
O
So,
commissioners,
I've
worked
with
mr
langston
for
a
number
of
years
he's
a
quality.
Idaho
builder
does
very
nice
large
custom
homes
and
that's
the
intent
here.
We
have
some
very
nice
properties
that
exist
out
in
that
area
and
mr
langston
wants
to
be
consistent.
O
O
So
as
far
as
compatibility
commissioners,
this
is
the
assessor's
parcel
map
the
blue
cross.
There
is
the
subject
property.
You
can
see
some
of
the
properties
that
I've
developed
in
the
area
and
it's,
as
I
said,
it's
transitioning
and
transition
next
slide.
This
is
the
parcel
map
without
the
aerials,
so
we
have
the
five
acre
lots
which
are
more
to
our
east
and
a
little
bit
north.
That's
the
rocking
estate
subdivision
and
the
triple
point
subdivision.
So
that's
essentially
what
we're
doing
I
thought
it
is.
What
we're
doing
five
acre
lots.
O
O
I
did
not
go
to
the
neighborhood
meeting.
Mr
langston
is
here
he
did,
but
I
understand
there
was
a
general
positive
feeling
with
some
caveats-
and
I
think
they're
here
to
talk
about
that
tonight,
but
I
think
we're
on
the
same
page
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
just
a
moment
a
minute,
but
I
believe,
there's
support
for
the
five-acre
lot
approach
that
we're
having
that'll
help
preserve
that
more
rural
residential
character
of
the
area
versus
waiting
until
there's
urban
services
out
there,
which
would
naturally
result
in
a
higher
density
if
that
platinum
remained.
O
So
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
plans,
corey
covered
it
pretty
well
there
on
the
left.
You
can
see
the
ariel
our
neighbors
in
the
willow
tree
subdivision,
which
is
part
of
the
original
flat.
O
Have
that
nice
amenity
pond
area
there
that's
going
to
be
our
lot
11
that
will
be
transferred
to
the
hoa
and
then
there
you
can
see
the
location
of
the
well
and
pump
that
provides
fire
flow
and
benefit
to
the
willow
tree
subdivision
will
include
that
in
a
permanent
easement
for
the
hoa
and
then
a
little
bit
on
the
other.
O
We
are
working
on
that
in
the
process
and
plan
and
hope
to
have
that
the
documents
prepared
and
and
ready
before
we
get
to
the
county
commissioners,
but
that's
certainly
our
intention.
I
think
we
have
some
folks
from
the
homeowners
association
here
tonight
and
I'll.
Let
certainly
let
them
speak,
but
I
think
we're
on
the
same
page
conceptually.
O
We
would
like
to
keep
talking
with
achd
on
some
of
them
and
see
if
we
can
maybe
improve
them
a
little
bit
as
far
as
some
of
the
improvements
for
sidewalk
and
some
of
those
along
this
area,
we're
at
the
far
edge
of
their
jurisdiction,
and
so
we'll
be
having
more
discussions.
O
We
agree
with
the
requirement
that
we'll
comply
with
their
requirements,
we're
just
going
to
try
to
negotiate
a
little
bit
more
on
some
of
those
if
we
can
and,
as
I
said,
we'll
work
through
the
hoa
issues
and
the
np
study
is
in
progress.
So,
madam
chair,
that
concludes
my
presentation.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
you
have
them.
J
Mr
mikey,
you
pointed
out
that
the
hoa
has
raised
some
concerns.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
those
concerns
are.
What
the
developer's
reaction
is
to
those
concerns
where
you
plan
on
meeting
it
seemed
like
the
hoa
said:
we
want
to
split
these
systems
completely
in
two,
so
so
they're
not
operating
off
the
same
one.
So
can
you
just
walk
me
through
that?
So
I
understand
it
and
then
we'll
hear
from
them
too,
but
I'm
just
curious
what
the
developer's
view
of
this
is
sure.
O
Madam
chair
and
commissioner
burch,
if
you
could
back
up
a
slide
corey,
so
the
hoa
has
easements
in
the
ccnr's
for
the
amenities
for
the
pond
area
and
then
also
for
the
access
to
the
well
and
rather
than
just
have
an
easement
for
those
things.
Our
intention
is
to
just
give
them
the
ground,
and
I
think
that
was
their
their
request
is.
They
would
like
to
own
that
property.
That's
really
been
a
common
area,
benefit
for
them
and
again
we're
okay
with
that.
That's
our
intention.
O
The
well
is
a
little
further
over
on
our
property,
but
we
will
again
provide
a
permanent
easement
for
them
to
be
able
to
utilize
that
for
those
pipes
that
come
from
that
well
onto
their
property,
that
those
will
be
protected
and
available
for
their
use,
and
then
the
common
drain
field
is
also
currently
in
an
easement
under
the
ccnr's
and
will
provide.
I
think
it
was
a
temporary
easement,
we'll
provide
a
permanent
easement
for
that
drain
field.
O
It
will
not
be
a
buildable
area,
it
will
be
protected
as
well
for
their
use
and
and
maintenance.
O
I
think
their
desire
is
to
keep
and
I'm
going
to,
let
them
speak
for
themselves,
but
to
keep
the
two
subdivisions
separate.
They
have
their
community
water
system
and
and
they
have
their
their
ccnrs
that
apply
to
them.
We're
going
to
be
utilizing
individual,
well
and
septic
and
want
to
keep
those
two
things
separate.
I
think
that's
what
they
would
like
to
do
as
well,
so
we'll
have
separate
homeowners
associations
as
well.
G
O
Chair
and
commissioner
wickstrom,
I
I
think,
with
these
being
five
acre
lots
that
gives
you
a
lot
of
room
for
a
house
and
for
some
additional
area
to
stretch
your
legs
and
and
move
around,
so
I
think
it
it
won't
cause
significant
problem.
Most
the
lots
in
close
proximity
to
us
are
one
acre
and
I
think
they
marketed
fairly
well,
so
we
should
be
just
fine.
I
think
they're
protecting
a
good
portion
of
that
that
lot,
okay,.
G
O
Chair
and
commissioner
wickstrom,
yes,
obviously
we
have
to
have
the
subdivision
approved
before
we
sign
and
record
everything
and
the
property
is
purchased.
O
Madam
chair
state
code
prohibits
the
fire
district
from
requiring
sprinklers,
so
we're
perfectly
happy
with
them
not
being
required.
O
O
J
Yeah
in
that
regard,
I'm
going
to
make
an
assumption
that
the
willowbrook
subdivision
homes
do
not
have
sprinklers.
I
mean
that's
kind
of
an
unusual
thing.
Is
then
the
whole
individual
homeowners
can
request
sprinklers
and
I've
seen
that
there's
some
homeowners
that
do
not
want
them
in
case
they
would
come
on
and
basically
ruin
everything
in
their
home.
A
I
P
P
Also,
I
thought
it
was
a
great
event
again.
This
is
kind
of
one
of
those
rarities.
Typically,
you
have
developers
that
come
in
and
they're
trying
to
get
as
much
density
as
possible.
That's
really
the
opposite
of
what
I'm
doing.
I
kind
of
explained
to
the
hoa
that
you
know
when
urban
services
arrive
to
this
area.
P
They
love
the
idea
of
not
having
150
neighbors
looking
across
the
fence
right,
so
this
is
an
opportunity
for
them
to
own
something
to
have
their
their
privacy,
so
they
were
supportive.
They
had,
they
did
have
concerns,
and
I've
had
great
communication
with
the
with
the
president
of
the
hoa
there's
hasn't
been
this.
I
think
more
logistically
be
able
to
get
on
getting
get
in
the
room
because
we
have
a
lot
of
you
know.
P
The
engineers
got
to
figure
out
all
the
stuff
with
the
drain
fill
and
the
np
studies
with
with
those
things,
but
we're
100
in
agreement
with
with
beating
over
that
common
area.
Like
I
said,
I'm
super
excited
to
work
with
him.
I
think
the
conversation's
been
super
positive
today,
so
looking
forward
to
like
coming
to
an
agreement
like
mr
lakey
stated.
Unfortunately,
we
can't
sign
agreements
because
we
don't
own
the
property
at
this
point,
but
looking
to
work
and
collaborate
with
hoa
and
make
sure
that
everybody's
happy.
A
A
Q
Q
Q
Q
The
only
thing
that
I
think
remains
now
well,
maybe
two,
the
head
gate
on
the
ryden
ball
canal,
I'm
a
little
unclear
as
to
whether
that
will
be
part
of
the
land
he
deeds
over
or
not.
If
I
look
at
the
flat
correctly,
there's
a
road
comes
down
through
there
and
I'm
not
sure
that
that
that
irrigation
district
head
gate
isn't
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
road.
Q
So
I'm
unclear
as
to
whether
that's
part
of
what
he's
deeding
over
or
not
if
it
goes
right
up
to
the
canal,
if
it
doesn't,
we
have
a
transfer
pump
there
at
the
canal,
so
we
would
need
to
have
a
permanent
easement
to
access
that
transfer
pump
and
then
our
pipe
would
run
under
what
I
think
is
the
proposed
road
over
to
our
pond,
which
we
provides
for
our
pressurized
irrigation,
so
we'd
need
to
have
access
to
that.
If
that's
on
somebody
else's
land,
then
obviously
they're
not
going
to
want
us
trooping
back
and
forth.
Q
Q
Q
This
lot,
11,
which
he's
proposing
to
deed
over
to
us
and
then
from
there.
The
effluent
is
pressurized
and
goes
out
into
this
drain
field,
and
we
would
like
to
keep
that
separate.
In
fact,
we
very
much
would
like
to
keep
that
separate
from
their
drain
field,
because
if
only
one
homeowner
fails
to
maintain
their
private
septic
tank
adequately,
we
get
high
nitrate
levels
that
pass
through,
and
then
we
failed
to
meet
the
requirements
with
central
district
health
and
so
with
our
15
homeowners.
We've
got
this
resolved.
Q
Until
such
time
as
city
sewer
comes
out
that
area-
and
so
we
would
be
happy
with
that-
I
questioned
just
how
excited
a
new
homeowner
would
be
to
buy
a
piece
of
land
that
had
somebody
else's
drain
field
on
it
and
a
permanent
easement
there,
because
we
do
go
out
and
maintain
it.
I
spray
the
weeds
on
it
several
times
annually
to
keep
it
clean
and
we
have
a
little
barrier
around
it
to
keep
folks
off
from
it.
Q
A
Q
I
am
almost
done,
and
so
the
final
thing
I'd
have
to
say
is
to
you
folks,
having
served
on
a
planet
and
zoning
commission
for
about
10
years
in
adelaide
county.
I
appreciate
your
efforts.
I
know
you're
underpaid
and
overworked,
and
I
appreciate
your
efforts,
but
with
the
feeding
frenzy,
that's
going
on
right
now
in
this
part
of
idaho
for
land
development.
Q
You
in
fact
are
the
last
line
of
defense
and
while
many
of
the
proposed
subdivisions
would
comply
with
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law,
I
think
it's
also
incumbent
on
you
to
ensure
that
the
integrity
of
those
subdivisions
that
they're
done
properly
and
that
they
protect
the
adjoining
landowners.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Well
well,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
for
the
compliment
so
appreciate
it.
Thanks
for
coming
down,
okay,
I've
got
laurel
day.
R
Hi,
madam
chair,
my
name
is
laurel
day.
My
address
is
5705
west
willitry
court
in
nampa,
and
I'd
like
to
just
state
that
I'm
surprised
pleasantly
surprised
with
the
builder's
statement
about
giving
us
permanent
easement
and
the
fact
that
that's
a
problem
is
that
I'm
finding
out
just
today
about
those
permanent
easements,
because
I
even
got
an
email
just
on
my
way
over
here
with
an
update
that
didn't
include
those
permanent
easements
and
I
know
he
wants
to
work
with
us
and
he
wants
to
make
us
happy
to
move
this
along.
R
And
I
know
he
had
plans
of
wanting
to
combine
our
septic
system
or
our
drain
fields
and
everything
for
our
benefit
as
well.
And
there
are
many
reasons
that
bob
had
mentioned
that
it
wouldn't
be
beneficial
for
us
trying
to
police
26
people
instead
of
just
15
and
or
25
people.
I
guess
it's
probably
only
10
helms
but
and
then,
if
something
does
break
or
there's
some
maintenance
or
repairs
who's
paying
for
that.
R
R
9,
9b
and
they're
about
bringing
sewer
or
city
urban
city
protects
us
in
the
fact
that
in
our
ccnr's
it
says
that
we
have
a
temporary
easement
for
that
drain
field
and
that,
once
the
city
sewer
and
water
comes
in
then
we'll
be.
We
will
get
rid
of
that
drain
field
and
that's
the
only
thing
protecting
our
drain
field
and,
if
he's
given
us
that
permanent
easement,
we
don't
need
to
worry
about
that
anymore.
But
right
now
it's
just
his
word,
which,
which
is
great.
R
But,
as
I
understood
as
our
legal
counsel,
we
had
was
the
person
who
originally
wrote
up
rccnr's
and
they
said
that
they
had
a
couple
weeks
with
us
and
then
the
day
before
they're
supposed
to
meet
with
us,
they
called
us
and
said
that
they
had
a
conflict
of
interest
and
they're
actually
working
with
the
other
with
the
builder,
and
so
it
just
makes
me
it's
hard
to
take
his
word
for
it.
When
so
many
things
have
been
crossed
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
have
good
communication.
R
A
S
So
I'm
morgan
creek
homes,
so
we're
going
to
be
the
builder
of
the
development
and,
like
we
said
we're
trying
to
be
good
neighbors
so
that
everything
is
done
in
compliance
with
making
sure
that
the
septic
systems
are
in.
Compliance
with
central
district
health
is
on
the
new
parcels
as
well
as
the
old,
and
that
everything
is
done.
G
S
G
A
A
L
A
B
So,
just
to
kind
of
clarify
with
the
central
district
health
pretty
much
they
would
be
the
ones
that
decide
where
the
drain
field
would
be,
and
they
would
be
the
ones
that
would
decide
if
it
would
be
a
shared
drain
field
or
a
separate
drain
field.
Based
off
the
studies
that
correct
your
understanding.
I
A
I
L
L
L
I
I
don't
see
an
issue
with
that,
but
I
yeah
so
again,
because
this
is
a
recommendation,
you
do
have
the
ability
to
put
that
out
there
and
and
see
what
happens
we
now
in
june
or
july,
when
we
get
this
to
the
board,
but
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
what
the
board
isn't
or
what
the
both
sides
to
this
conversation
are
interested
in
doing
so.
A
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair
commissioners,
again
for
the
record
todd
lakey,
141,
east
carleton,
avenue,
meridian,
idaho
commissioners,
appreciate
the
comments
from
the
neighbors.
As
was
stated,
we
will
be
deeding
over
that
common
lot
to
the
hoa
the
head
gate
question
for
the
ryden
ba.
It
will
be
on
a
common
lot
within
our
subdivision,
not
an
individual
lot,
and
we
will
provide
that
permanent
easement
as
part
of
the
the
other
infrastructure
for
the
well
and
pump
as
well.
So
we'll
have
these
permanent
easements
for
both
of
those.
O
As
far
as
the
drain
field
goes
again,
we'll
have
a
permanent
easement
for
that
we
are
in
the
middle
of
the
np
study,
as
was
commented,
and
I
think
again
the
the
landowner
that
purchases
that
parcel
will
be
very
aware
of
the
location
of
that
drain
field.
It'll
still
be
a
very
large
parcel
for
someone
to
manage,
and
they
would
probably
appreciate
somebody
cleaning
up
their
weeds
on
perhaps
on
the
back
of
the
property.
O
I
think
it
was
covered.
As
far
as
the
the
how
we
may
approach
septic
systems
on
our
property,
we
certainly
could
not
participate
in
their
drain
field
without
their
consent.
O
Without
their
consent,
then
it
would
be
an
individual
or
community
system
on
our
side
that
would
comply
with
that
np
study,
but
that
mp
study
would
also
incorporate
in
their
analysis
that
existing
drain
field,
I
believe
so
and
then
in
between
now
and
then
we're
going
to
do
our
best
to
sit
down
with
them.
I
know-
and
you
probably
all
know
that
engineers
and
surveyors
are
just
crazy
behind
right
now.
O
Real
estate
and
land
use
attorneys
are
probably
close
behind
them
in
in
being
busy,
but
our
intent
is
to
to
push,
and
hopefully
I'm
not
the
attorney
working
on
that
part
of
it
so
to
get
that
completed
and
everybody
on
the
same
page
before
we
get
in
front
of
a
hearing
with
the
commissioners
with
that,
madam
chair
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
again
appreciate
the
recommendation
of
approval.
T
T
O
T
O
G
Looks
like
the
the
pump
for
the
canal
is
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
the
private
drive,
so
that
they'll
just
have
an
easement
to
get
to
their
pump
without
any
responsibility
for
the
road
or
anything
else.
O
A
I
have
a
question
if
the
commissioners
add
a
provision
for
or
a
condition
that
you
work
with
the
hoa
for
these
things,
that
you've
told
us
that
you're
gonna
do
any
suggested
wording
from
your
perspective
or
any
thoughts
about
an
additional
condition
that
would
help
the
homeowners
association
feel
comfortable
that
we're
you
know
we're
all
moving
forward
with
the
same
goal.
O
Adam
share,
I
think
staff's
recommendation
is
appropriate
for
you
to
put
it
on
as
a
as
an
attorney
representing
clients.
I'm
I
I
rarely
suggest
you
put
a
condition
on
a
project
that
somebody
else
controls
yeah,
but
in
this
case
it's
a
recommendation.
O
That'll
give
us
an
opportunity
to
work
through
it
until
we
get
to
the
county
commissioners,
so
I
think
it's
okay
for
you
to
place
it
on
the
record,
with
kind
of
our
understanding
as
we'll
try
to
get
that
figured
out
between
now
and
then-
and
I
think
you
could
word
it
something
to
the
effect
of
the
the
applicant
will
work
with
the
willow
tree
homeowners,
association
for
dedication
of
or
transfer,
I
should
say
a
lot
11
and
placement
of
permanent
easements
for
for
the
water
infrastructure
and
the
drain
field.
A
And
that's
perfect,
thank
you
then,
and
that'll
help
us
everybody
feel
more
comfortable
as
this
project
moves
forward.
So
thank
you
any
questions
from
the
commissioners,
so
I
think
I
think
we're
good.
Thank.
A
Okay,
unless
there's
anything
else
for
the
commissioners,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
at
this
point
I'm
going
to
open
the
floor
up
for
any
conversations
or
any
well
for
for
a
motion.
D
Madam
chair,
I
move
to
recommend
approval
project
number
two:
zero.
Two,
two:
zero
zero;
two
one
one
s
dash
pr
based
upon
the
findings
of
fact,
conclusions
of
law
in
the
order.
Herein,
based
on
the
testimony
from
this
evening's
hearing
with
the
following
amendment,
and
I'm
actually
going
to
recommend
amendment
of
a
finding
of
fact
on
page
16.
A
A
A
D
Madam
chair,
so
commissioners,
my
main
reasoning
for
the
findings
of
fact
is:
I
do
get
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
dictating
what
what
what
land,
what
private
land
owners
can
and
can't
do
as
a
condition
of
approval
to
that
extent,
in
enforcing
the
sale
it
kind
of
the
borders
on
the
line
of
of
imminent
domain
in
a
taking.
D
In
my
opinion,
and
so
I
feel
like
adding
in
this
information
into
this
specific
finding
of
fact
is
important
for
the,
for
the
first
reason
would
not
that
there
hasn't
been
any
evidence
that
this
would
this
project
would
cause
undue
damage
or
a
hazard
right,
so
so
that
the
damage
of
the
potential
hazards
are
lack
of
access
to
the
pump,
which
would
prevent
the
current
homeowners
from
watering
their
lawns
or
irrigating
and
which
would
be
a
damage
to
their
property.
D
And
second,
if
there
was
not
an
easement
over
that
existing
drain
field,
then
that
becomes
a
life
that
becomes
a
safety
or
health
issue.
So
I
think
that
you
know
it
without
really
adding
in
a
condition
of
approval
and
dictating
and
putting
potentially
the
board
at
risk
of
eminent
domain,
and
it
seems
like
that
everybody's
in
agreeance.
So
that's
just
my
thoughts
behind
doing
it
as
a
finding
of
a
fact
versus
a
condition
of
approval.
G
Kind
of
along
the
same
lines-
just
not
getting
too
getting
too
specific
in
what
they
need
to
do
for
this,
and
we
do
have
the
the
county
commissioners
as
a
last,
stop
and
anything
that's
not
covered
and
they're.
They
want
to
resolve
it
in
order
to
make
get
through
that
next
step,
they're
going
to
have
to
go
through
that
process
and,
unfortunately,
everybody's
going
to
catch
22.,
they
don't
own
the
land.
They
can't
do
certain
things.
They
can't
deed
the
property.
G
They
can't
issue
easements
to
the
homeowners
association,
so
they're
stuck
right
now,
so
hopefully
down
the
road
when
it
does
transfer
they'll
have
to
take
care
of
these
problems
and
then,
just
being,
I
say,
vague
or
general
as
much
as
possible
that
and
they
know
what
they
need
to
do,
and
the
homeowners
association
knows
what
they
want
to
have
done.
So,
unless
there's
an
agreement
there,
it
won't
pass
through
the
next
step.
J
J
J
If
you
have
septic,
if
you
have
sewer
service
down
there
from
the
government,
you'll
get
rid
of
the
septic
systems,
so
there'll
be
something
in
there
that
the
easement
remains
in
place
as
long
as
it's
required
to
be
in
place,
because
there
will
be
a
point
in
time
when
it
may
no
longer
be
needed.
But
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
when
the
parties
walk
out
of
here,
that
what
we
have
put
in
our
recommendation
is
what
each
side
expects
to
see,
and
that
is
that
that
the
condition
of
approval
will
be
that
lot.
J
11
will
be
deeded
to
the
homeowners
association
and
that
there
will
be
a
permanent
easement
for
all
facilities
or
property
currently
used
in
connection
with
the
willow
tree
subdivision.
I
think
those
are
the
two
issues
that
there's
a
drain
field:
there's
a
head
gate
as
long
as
they
have
a
permanent
easement.
For
that,
then,
I
think
that
that
is
what
they're
looking
for
as
long
as
they
have
assurances
that
lot,
11
will
be
deeded
to
the
hoa.
J
That
is
what
they're
looking
for.
It
doesn't
seem
like
from
the
developer
standpoint
either.
One
of
those
is
an
impediment
to
moving
forward
with
the
development
they
are
agreeable
to
those
and
again,
if
those
are
the
conditions
that
we
impose
between
now
and
when
this
gets
to
the
county,
there
will
be
more
discussion
about
what
exactly
those
easements
are
going
to
look
like,
and
the
party
should
feel
warm
and
fuzzy
and
in
agreement
when
they
get
to
the
county
that
everyone
is
in
support
of
this
project.
I
mean
no
question.
J
This
is
going
to
be
a
beautiful
project.
Those
homes
in
there
look
spectacular.
So
that
would
be.
My
recommendation
would
be
to
modify
it
to
be
much
more
specific,
saying,
specifically,
that
our
condition
of
approval
will
be
deeding
lot,
11
to
the
hoa
and
granting
a
permanent
easement
for
all
the
facilities
and
property
currently
serving
willow
tree.
B
You,
madam
chair,
I
don't
think
we
should
have
it
as
a
condition,
because
I
do
think
that
kind
of
crosses
a
line
by
saying,
like
you
will
sell
your
land
and
you
will
give
your
land
over
especially
to
another
private
entity
from
one
private
entity
to
the
other,
and
I
think
it
also
could
set
potentially
a
not
so
fun
precedent.
B
You
know
not
necessarily
like
in
the
immediate
with
this
group
of
commissioners,
but
potentially
when
this
you
know
it's
a
complete
new
set
of
commissioners
on
this
board.
You
know
that
could
come
up
again
and
then
they
look
back
and
say:
oh,
this
happened
before
we
can
do
it
again.
I'd
rather
not
set
that
precedent
of
forcing
people
to
sell
land
in
a
condition.
I
am
much
more
in
favor
of
having
as
a
finding
saying
this
is
how
we
justified
this.
B
I
do
think
if
we
wanted
to.
We
could
clarify
that
justification
amendment
a
little
bit
more
to
something
along
the
lines
of
you
know
based
upon
the
informal
agreements
in
this
meeting
to
create
easements
and
deed
over
land,
because
that
way,
it
still
leaves
it
open.
For
again,
some
more
clarity
down
the
road
like
you
mentioned,
commissioner
birch,
but
at
the
same
time
not
putting
it
in
an
iron
clad.
You
know
you
must
transfer
your
land
over
to
another
entity
in
that
manner.
If
that
makes
sense,.
L
A
I
I
that
sounds
awesome
from
my
perspective,
because
the
two
things
that
when
the
people
came
forward,
it
was
the
two
things
that
were
important
was
that
the
lot
gets
deeded
over
and
that
they
have
access
to
their
facilities.
And
so
I
I
don't
really
care
if
it
happens
in
a
condition
or
if
it
happens
in
a
I'm,
not
smart
enough
to
know
which
is
better.
A
L
I
met
him
share
that
and
it
would
ultimately
be
the
board's
decision.
Staff
would
come
up
with
a
recommendation
working
with
our
legal
team
as
to
what
conditions
should
be
included.
That
would
be
a
part
of
our
draft
conditions
of
approval
and
it
would
be
the
board's
discretion
to
tweak
that
any
way
they
see
fit,
but
it
would
give
us
a
chance
to
work
with
our
legal
team
to
to
solve
some
of
the
the
concerns
you
have.
I
think.
A
Thank
you.
What
comments
do
the
commissioners
have
with
this
new
information.
C
J
A
D
D
T
A
The
irrigation,
so
I
think
that
covers
it
any
is
there
a
second
for
that.
A
Been
seconded
so
my
understanding
is
the
motion
is
to
approve
the
project
as
as
shown
with
a
recommendation
or
with
direction
to
the
staff
to
add
either
a
finding
or
a
requirement
regarding
the
transfer
of
lot
11
to
the
homeowners
association
and
addressing
the
permanent
easements
for
all
of
the
irrigation
and
the
drainage
facilities.
T
I
would
keep
in
mind
I
mean
this
is
a
recorded,
proceeding
that
we
have
all
the
documentation.
We
need
that
for
the
commissioners
I
mean.
So
it's
not
like
this
didn't
happen.
So
we've
heard
the
both
sides
agree
to
what
they
want
to
agree
to.
So
I
think
this
is
going
to
come
out
just
fine
just
reassurance.
A
T
A
I,
like
that,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
aye
aye
opposed.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
everybody
says
I
thank
you
very
much
everybody
for
coming
down
tonight.
We
really
appreciate
it.
Our
next
project
is
two
zero.
Two
two
zero
zero
one,
eight
five
zcda
msp
maltrust
construction
and
mr
danielson
is
gonna.
Tell
us
about
it.
A
T
T
A
H
H
That's
adopted
by
a
county
designates
the
property
as
commercial
which
lists
shopping,
centers,
hotels,
motels,
car
sales,
restaurants,
entertainment
and
outpatient
medical
services
as
primary
uses
and
housing
densities
of
up
to
43.5
units
per
acre
as
a
secondary
use,
as
the
proposed
as
the
proposed
r20
zone
has
a
maximum
density
of
up
to
20
units
per
acre
with
the
proposed
development
will
have
a
density
of
16
units
per
acre.
The
application
is
compatible
with
the
adopted
comprehensive
plan.
H
H
H
The
applicant
has
obtained
approval
to
move
the
lateral
from
the
u.s
borough
of
reclamation
in
the
boise
project
board
of
control.
The
board
of
eight
county
commissioners
will
make
the
decision
on
the
vacation
at
their
public.
Carry
some
state
code
gives
that
authority
to
the
board
to
to
do
the
vacation
to
vacate
the
easement.
H
There
has
been
both
written
intestine
there's
been
ruin
testimony
both
in
favor
and
against
the
proposed
project
from
neighboring
residents.
Those
in
favor
of
the
project
cite
the
need
for
additional
housing
in
a
county,
especially
housing
price
under
1900
per
month.
One
individual
spoke
through
their
role
as
an
employer
and
having
had
multiple
applicants
turn
down
job
offers
due
to
not
being
able
to
find
affordable
housing
in
the
boise
area.
Those
opposed
to
the
project
have
raised
concerns
about
the
effect
the
multi-family
development
would
have
on
their
property
values.
H
The
number
of
parking
spaces,
additional
traffic
onto
west
gisborne
street
school
capacity
and
a
preference
for
an
office
development
rather
than
a
multi-family
residential
development.
The
required
number
of
parking
spaces
for
multi-family
development
with
two
bedroom
units
is
two
parking
spaces
per
dwelling
unit,
plus
0.25
parking
spaces
per
drilling
unit
for
all
multi-family
dwellings.
H
The
proposed
development
will
have
36
off
street
parking
spaces
in
exhibit
number
38.
There
is
a
reference
to
parking
problems
at
the
char
point
apartments.
The
number
of
parking
spaces
required
for
multi-family
developments
in
the
zoning
ordinance
was
increased
in
2009
to
address
the
parking
deficiency
issue
that
was
experienced
at
the
char
point
apartments.
H
H
H
H
H
The
applicant
shall
submit
landscape
plan
that
complies
with
article
8-4
f
of
a
county
code.
The
applicant
shall
also
submit
a
lying
plan
that
complies
with
article
8-4-h
of
a
county
code
staff
finds
this
application
complies
with
a
county
code
and
the
adopted
conference
of
plan
and
recommends
approval
to
the
commission
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
J
Wanted
to
develop
the
property
not
in
a
manner
such
as
the
multi-family,
where
they're
coming
before
us.
What
could
they
do
with
it?
You
mentioned
restaurants.
You
mentioned
medical
facilities
offices.
Can
you
kind
of
run
through
that
list?
And
now
I
realize
they're
limited
by
space
they're
like
under
two
acres
here,
but
but
what
could
they
do
without
having
to
come
and
ask
us
for
changes
to.
H
The
conditions
ma'am
chair
and
commissioner
burch,
so
the
property
currently
is
owned,
limited
office,
so
limited
office
is
typically
what
you
would
see
like
dental
offices
or
professional
offices
that
is
kind
of
the
primary
use.
There
are
some
additional
uses
that
are
maybe
somewhat
accessory
to
the
limited
office.
We
may
have
like
a
restaurant,
that's
kind
of
maybe
serving
some
of
the
offices,
but
primarily
what
you're
going
to
see
in
the
lo
district
would
be.
You
know
like
a
like
an
accountant
office,
maybe
an
attorney's
office,
dentist
office.
H
So,
madam
chair,
commissioner
colson,
that
was
relating
to
the
what
the
what
the
comprehensive
plan
designation
is
for
the
property.
So
let
me
go
back
in
my
notes
here:
real
quick.
H
So
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
future
land
use
map
designates
the
property
as
commercial,
which
is
general
commercial,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
the
the
overall.
You
know
big
picture,
but
there's
multiple
districts
that
could
encompass.
You
know
a
commercial
district.
So
if
they
had
rezoned
the
property
to
more
like
a
like
a
c2
or
you
know,
then
they
would
be
able
to
do
like
a
hotel
would
be
an
allowed
use
if
they
had
rezoned
it
to
like
a
c2
district.
H
U
H
Mean
I'm
chairing
commissioner
coulson.
That
is
correct.
So,
with
the
comp
plan
coverage
of
plan
designation,
even
though
it's
commercial,
the
commercial
land
use
designation,
the
complain,
you
know
it,
the
uses
that
they
typically
focus
on
are
primarily
commercial
uses,
but
they
do
have
secondary
uses
and
that
up
to
43.5
dwelling
units
is
a
secondary
use
in
that
land
use.
Designation
of
commercial,
okay.
A
H
Tried
reaching
out
to
achc
multiple
times
in
this
application.
I
did
get
a
coming
email
that
from
mindy
wallace
who's
kind
of
the
supervisor
of
that
department
and-
and
she
had
kind
of
indicated-
I
mean
they
didn't
really
have
that
she
would
be
sending
a
a
letter,
but
I
never
received
it
and
I
you
know,
had
some
follow-up
email.
You
know
asking
her
if
the
letter
was
coming-
and
I
haven't
heard
back
from
them
from
her
on
that,
but
it
seemed
like
she
in
the
initial
kind
of
email
draft
that
she
had
sent
me.
H
She
didn't
really
express
really
too
much
concerns.
I
mean
she
thought
you
know.
They'd
have
to
approve
of
the
access
point
onto
gisborne
and
they
would
have
me
some
regulations
in
regards
to
on-street
parking.
But
beyond
that
she
didn't
say
anything
else
in
her
email
to
me.
A
H
And
then
the
access
would
be
here
and
then
they
would
use
chloride.
All
would
comes
in
right
here.
So
obviously
the
traffic
into
the
facility
would
obviously
you
know,
come
off
of
cleverdale
road
and
then
go
on
gisborne
and
enter
the
facility
and
then
to
leave.
They
would
make
a
left
onto
gizborn
and
then
make
it
either
eye
or
a
left
onto
cloverdale
road.
A
H
So
up
here
to
the
north
part
of
the
property,
that's
the
existing
hess,
lateral,
uh-huh,
and
so
there's
not
like
a
public
roadway.
There
may
be
okay.
A
H
H
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
mr
jameson.
There's
they're
going
to
be
required
to
put
sidewalk
and
street
improvements
along
cloverdale.
Is
that
correct
part
of
it.
H
Yes
and
there's
an
existing
sidewalk
already
on
cloverdale
road,
so
in
in
the
process
of
of
obviously
moving
the
lateral
if
they
were
to
damage
the
the
sidewalk
achieves
policy
would
require
them
to
fix
the
sidewalk.
H
I'm
I'm
not
sure
on
that.
I
think
the
parking
you
know
and
that's
when
the
neighbors
concerns
that
the
neighbors
had
raised.
I
think
the
neighbors
do
not
want
obviously
any
of
the
residents
to
park
on
the
local
streets
within
rockhampton's
division.
They
want
all
the
parking
to
be
fully
on
site,
so
they'd
want
all
the
parking
to
be
off
street
parking
and
not
have
any
of
the
on-street
parking.
Okay.
A
V
Hello,
my
name
is
brian
wilson,
I'm
at
6171
cutting
horse
drive
cuna.
Is
that
it
what
you
needed,
and
I
can
explain
a
lot
about
the
project-
the
if
you
put
that
the
site
plan
back
up.
Okay,.
V
I
I
have
matrix
construction
so
and
I
own
the
property
on
the
site
plan.
Cloverdale
achd
is
getting
ready
to
redo.
Cloverdale
they've
come
to
me
and
talked
to
me
about
it,
but
they're
not
sure
what
their
plan
is,
because
we
own
all
three
lots
along
there
and
they're
going
to
redo
cloverdale,
go
to
five
lanes,
there's
already
a
48
foot,
easement
or
a
48
foot
of
road
that
they
own.
V
V
They
just
put
all
the
new
power
poles
in
there
and
so
ad
chd
is
a
little
behind
the
curve
because
they
didn't
realize
that
idle
power
is
going
to
put
those
big
poles
in
and
they're
all
concreted
in,
they're
huge
and
so
now,
they're
redesigning
their
whole
deal
along
there
because
they
got
caught
as
of
for
the
hess
lateral.
We
were
approved
two
years
ago
to
remove
the
hess
before
we
even
came
up
with
this
project,
and
it's
already
moved.
V
It
is
underground.
There's
a
vault
at
the
northwest
corner
or
north
east
corner
and
there's
another
vault
halfway
between
that
feeds
the
pond
and
then
there's
another
vault
that
goes
and
then
it
goes
into
the
ditch
so
an
a
to
end
the
boise
projects
it's
already
approved
through
them.
It's
they're
real
happy,
because
now
it's
done
and
so
the
so
that
easement
just
has
to
be
vacated
and
the
border
control
and
the
bureau
of
reclamation.
They
already
have
the
paperwork
to
to
take
the
new
easement
because
it's
already
granted.
V
So
all
that
paperwork
has
already
been
done
as
of
last
year.
So
anyhow,
I
didn't
know
we
had
to
vacate
the
easement
through
you
guys.
I
didn't
realize
that
when
we
went
to
the
border,
control
and
bureau
of
reclamation,
they
never
said
anything
about
vacating
and
easement.
So
that's
why
it's
on
here
now
there.
So
there
will
be
no
parking
on
clover
on
cloverdale
there,
because
that's
going
to
be
a
five
lane
road,
so
there
will
be
no
parking
there.
V
V
V
I
got
a
friend
who
lives
right
across
the
street
and
he's
not
real
happy
about
it
so,
but
for
we
have
no
plans
of
any
on-street
parking
there.
There
is
on-street
parking
right
now
on
gisborne
that
the
neighborhood's
using
that
comes
in
that,
and
I
don't
know
if
the
fire
department
would
allow
it
or
not,
because
it
does
block
the
road
up,
and
I
don't
think
that
gisborne
is
actually
supposed
to
have
parking
on
it.
I
don't
know,
but
there
is
parking
there
now.
B
B
V
We're
just
going
to
leave
it
for
open
space
for
now,
until
if
we
were
to
be
annexed,
then
it
depends.
I'd,
like
you
know,
we're
not
sure
we.
We
offered
this
piece
of
property
to
the
hoa,
probably
four
years
ago,
to
put
a
swimming
pool
in
there
and
do
it
for
for
rockhampton,
but
they
didn't
want
it.
V
So
that's
why
we
decided
now,
since
boise
city
changed
the
ordinance
so
that
we
could
put
multi-family
in
here,
because
before
we
couldn't
we'd
ask
about
it,
I
talked
to
mark
perfect
about
it
and
mark
says:
can't
do
it
and
then
they
changed
the
ordinance
and
mark
told
me
yeah.
You
can't
do
it
now.
So
then,
that's
why
this
came
up
to
be
what
it
is
and
to
build
office
in
there
right
now.
V
It
doesn't
make
sense,
because
office
space
isn't
doing
very
well
in
boise
city,
because
everybody's
working
from
home
and
they're
clearing
out
a
lot
of
these
little
office
buildings
are
getting
cleared
out
and
so
just
to
build
an
office
building
doesn't
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense
at
this
time.
Unless
you
can
get
a
dental
or
a
doctor
in
there
and
that's-
I
don't
have
any
at
this
time
willing
to
do
something
like
that.
G
Thank
you.
I
took
a
deep
breath.
Thank
you
manager
on
your
landscape
plan.
They
did
the
free
building.
Actually
the
first
thing
on
your
four
buildings:
are
they
numbered
in
abc
one?
Two,
three:
are
they
they
will
be
okay,
I
just
I
just
want
to
identify
the
one
in
the
top
left
hand
corner
just
what
to
call
that.
So
that
really
seems
for
me.
That's
the
only
building,
that's
going
to
cause
problems
because
of
it's
the
closest
one
to
the
to
the
adjacent
neighborhood.
G
V
No,
we
don't
have
any
landscape
plan
yet,
but
we
have
no
problem
putting
up.
We
don't
want
to
put
trees
in
there,
but
we
can
put
up
like
arbor,
vituses
and
stuff
like
that.
Will
grow
up
12
13
feet
tall.
The
problem
with
trees
is,
if
the
property
right
there
drops
off
a
bit
to
the
fence
they
built
as
this.
They
built
their
houses
below
when
they
graded
this
property.
V
When
rockhampton
graded
this
property,
they
graded
it
over
and
then
it
kind
of
drops
off
about
two
feet
and
that
their
fence
is
at
the
bottom
of
that
and
it
goes
up.
So
I'm
afraid
if
we
put
trees
in
there,
I've
already
had
trees
that
were
growing
along
that
fence
that
weren't
planted.
They
just
grew
naturally
with
the
property
owners
complaining
that
the
roots
were
going
under
the
fence
and
was
raising
their
the
fence
up,
tearing
the
fence
up
and
raising
their
in
their
garden.
V
So
I
had
to
go
out
and
I
removed
it
and
removed
the
tree
and
then
they
removed
the
the
stump
and
then
they
rebuilt
their
fence,
but
that
was
trees
along
that
along
there.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
work.
Very
good
screening
with
like
arbor
vitus
is
that
shrubbery
will
work.
Fine,
yeah.
V
It's
they
just
put
it
well.
On
the
north
side,
they
just
put
a
brand
new
fence
up
wooden
fans
and
then
the
fence
on
lot.
What
is
that
41?
That
guy
just
put
a
new
fence
in
the
fence
to
the
north
of
that
is
in
good
shape?
They
just
rebuilt
that,
because
they
put,
I
think,
a
swimming
pool
back
there
and
then
the
rest
of
the
fence
is
just
it's
all
grape
steak
fence,
wood
fence,
six
foot
high
and
it's
all
in
pretty
good
shape.
G
A
B
So
you're
kind
of
echoing
off
of
commissioner
wickstrom's
concern
with
you
know
the
screening
or
placement.
I
noticed
the
three
buildings
on
the
right
are
all
spaced
out
15
feet
right.
Could
you
nudge
per
se
the
building
on
the
top
over
a
little
bit
more
to
the
right?
Just
out
of
curiosity,
because
it
looks
like
at
least
based
on
this
map
that
you
have
more
than
15
feet
between
the
edge
of
the
top
building
and
what
I
assume
would
be
a
sidewalk.
V
See
the
the
new
easement:
do
you
have
the
new
the
the
thing
that
I
sent
over
that
shows
where
the
new
hess
lateral
goes?
Oh.
B
A
W
It
was
informative,
madam
chairman,
commissioners
flynn,
a
miracle,
and
I
live
at
lot,
40,
which
is
one
two
three
one
two
west
martia,
I
guess
my
concern
is,
is
that
this
is
really
some
pretty
bad
planning.
In
my
opinion,
the
building
on
that
northwest
corner.
W
It's
10
feet
from
the
gate
that
the
irrigation
company
needs
to
get
in
there
to
do
maintenance
on
that
lateral
and
what
they
do
is
they
they.
They
take
a
mower
in
there
twice
a
year,
which
is
a
full-size
tractor
and
they
have
taken
excavators
in
there
and
with
the
building
and
the
building
placement
is
it?
Is
it
never
fit
through
there
and
as
a
brian
over
there
I
said
we
and
the
neighbors
are
concerned
about
parking.
It's
just
not
adequate.
W
You
know
you
really!
You
can't
park
on
that
street
coming
in
you'd,
never
get
a
truck
by
there,
it's
just
too
narrow
and
as
a
result,
what
the
people
would
do
is
they'd
go
around
the
corner
and
they'd
be
parking
in
everybody's
driveway
and
parking
up
and
down
the
street
and
it'd
cause
us
a
lot
of
trouble.
W
W
It's
really
close
to
the
light
at
lake
hazel,
and
it's
also
right
next
to
a
maverick
that's
off
to
your
right
and
having
used
that
that
exit
for
years
and
years
cars
blow
out
of
that
maverick-
and
I
mean
that's
what
they
do-
we've
complained
to
the
sheriff's
office
about
it
and
there's
not
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
we
can
do.
The
other
thing
is:
is
that
it's
so
close
to
the
light
people
are
speeding
through
that
light
to
get
through.
Do
I
need
to
stop
her?
You.
A
Know
what
we
three
minute
limit,
if
you
could
wrap
it
up,
that'd
be
great.
W
W
W
W
X
C
A
And
then
we've
got
questions
for
the
staff.
What
questions
do
we
have
for
the
staff?
Any
questions,
any
questions.
I
wondered
if
you
could
address
the
questions
about
a
homeowner's
meeting.
Is
the
applicant
required
to
have
a
like
a
a
plan
when
you
have
the
homeowners
meeting.
H
So
at
the
neighboring
meeting,
the
primary
purpose
of
the
neighborhood
meeting
is
really
a
communication
tool
between
the
app
current
developer
and
the
neighboring
property
owners
within
either
in
this
case
would
be
300
feet,
plus
any
registered
neighborhood
groups.
And
so
there
really
isn't
a
necessarily.
You
know
a
formal.
You
know
they
don't
necessarily
with
our
code
is
very
vague,
because
I
think
we
want
it
to
be
more
of
a
communication
tool.
So
we
don't
require.
H
And
so
you
know,
the
neighborhood
meeting
is
really
a
two-way
communication.
So
it's
a
way
for
the
neighbors
to
learn
more
about
what
the
project
is,
but
it's
also
a
way
for
the
developer
to
get
to
know
what
concerns
neighbors
have
and
allows
the
developer
to
if
there,
if
there's
things
that
they
can
do
to
address
neighbors
concerns,
then
that's
something
that
they
can
do
prior
to
them.
Submitting
the
application.
A
And
the
next
question
I
have
is
in
terms
of
process
today
tonight
we're
we're
providing
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
commissioners
or
is
our
decision
final.
H
So
we
didn't
get
any
comments
back
from
the
west,
a
school
district
with
this
development,
it's
generating.
You
know,
16
units,
so
I
I
would
almost
suspect.
Probably
this
development
would
probably
generate
probably
roughly
10
students.
Probably-
and
so
I
mean
it's
not
a
major.
You
know
I
wouldn't
say
it's
a
major
impact.
You
know
you
have
okay,
kindergarten
through
12th
grades,
13th
grade
so
maybe
you're,
adding
one
child
per
grade,
possibly
to
the
local
schools.
Just
with
just
the
number
of
units
that's
being
proposed.
A
But
the
staff
did
send
out
the
letter
to
the
west
data
school
district
asking
for
their
comments.
That's.
A
Just
understanding
the
lay
of
the
land
any
other
questions
from
from
the
commissioners,
I
think
I'm
done
asking
questions.
I
think
we'll
give
the
applicant
a
chance
to
give
us
the
final
rebuttal
and
then
we'll
have
a
motion.
V
The
only
thing
I
have
is
that
that
easement
on
the
top,
if
you
see
the
little
the
little
dotted
line,
then
the
bigger
dotted
line,
which
is
a
25
foot
easement,
that's
where
the
border
control
in
our
access,
the
property
will
be
from
cloverdale
and
will
go
down.
That's
25
foot
wide
and
then
in
they
don't
have
and
the
gates
open
in
the
gates
open
out
too,
but
they
go
open
in
now
into
the
canal.
V
V
We
meet
all
the
the
code
requirements,
so
I
I
just
don't
believe
we're
going
to
have
that
big
of
a
of
over
parking
thing.
You
know,
and
when
you
go
through
these
subdivisions,
if
people
would
park
in
their
garages
instead
of
using
them
for
storage
units,
it'd
probably
make
things
a
little
bit
easier
for
for
how
much
parking
there
is
on
the
street.
V
So
I
don't
really
know
how
we
can
design
it
differently.
We
have
a
25
foot
east,
but
on
the
east
side
and
a
25
foot
east
on
the
north
side,
so
we're
kind
of
stuck
with
the
design
that
we
have
to
build
those
buildings
in
there
and
get
adequate
parking
and
get
the
30
open
space
and
require
all
those
requirements.
A
G
More
one
more
thank
you
manager,
so
the
on
the
second
floors
all
have
a
balcony
amenity
and
the
first
floors
and
units
do
not.
Is
that
say.
V
They
line
up
well,
they
do
a
kiss
ramble,
there's
petty,
okay
right
and
that
and
each
unit
when
you
go
I've
built
these
and
I've
owned
these
buildings
before
and
when
you
go
up
the
stairs,
you
have
a
apartment
on
the
right
apartment
on
the
left
and
then
the
ones
below
it
are
identical
and
the
one
bottom
ones
are
all
ada
accessible
and
the
top
units
they
just
match.
The
bottom
units
and
the
top
units
have
vaulted
ceilings
in
them.
Okay,.
G
V
A
B
Yeah,
so
one
thing
that
to
me,
obviously
parking
is
definitely
a
concern
that
was
brought
up.
I
think,
if
there's
adequate
parking,
you
know
one
two
one
car
per
room
plus
I
don't,
and
obviously
we
can't
control
parking
on
the
street
to
my
understanding,
that's
more
achds
wheelhouse,
but
I
think
it'd
be
unfair
to
try
and
recommend
that
if
you
live
in
those
apartments
you
can't
park
on
the
public
streets
like
that,
unless
we
somehow
did
a
blanket
wide.
No
one
in
this
area
can
park
on
the
streets.
B
I
just
don't
feel
like
that's
fair
and
also,
even
though
the
school
district
didn't
provide
a
comment
on
page
six
of
the
staff
report,
it
does
say
using
the
ratios
of
a
similar
project.
It
would
be
about
six
school-age
children,
so
it's
not
like
they're
predicting
you
know.
50
kids
are
going
to
be
entering
the
school
system
from
this
project
alone,
even
though
it's
still
not
the
official
count.
B
I
do
understand
what
you're
saying
commissioner
wickstrom
about
that
balcony,
but
also,
I
feel
like
it
would
be
weird
to
have
that.
Just
the
one
unit
not
have
a
balcony
in
a
way,
but
that's
just
like
a
personal
opinion
there,
but
yeah
that's
kind
of
my
thought
process
behind
this.
T
I
just
I
said
I
see
both
sides
like
we
always
try
to
for
sure.
You
know
nobody
wants
to
have
that
lot.
That's
right
on
that
situation,
but
that's
one
of
the
things
you
do
when
you
purchase
your
lot
and
there's
an
open
space
behind
you
there's
always
a
chance
something's
going
to
happen
so,
but
I
do
thank
the
applicant
for
providing
some
affordable
housing.
That's
something
that
we
get
torn
between
on
this
council,
a
lot
where
people
you
know.
T
We
got
one
side
that
wants
affordable
housing,
but
nobody
wants
anybody
to
build
anything
anywhere.
So
as
somebody
that
has
family
members
that
search
long
and
hard
for
apartments
in
this
town
and
and
didn't
couldn't
find
any
or
my
daughter
that
couldn't
afford
any,
because
there
wasn't
affordable
housing
available.
T
There
is
a
need
for
this
and
I
hope
you
continue
to
do
this.
I
do
like
the
fact
that
it's
built
on
a
busier
street
we've
had
projects
come
in
front
of
us
where
they
built
this
same
project
where
all
the
traffic
was
going
to
run
through
a
neighborhood
to
get
to
it,
and
we
did
not
approve
that
in
this
case
I
think
it's
a
it's.
A
very
well
thought
out
space
where
this
was
this
was
done
and-
and
I
like
I
said-
I
think
it's
very
adequate
because
you've
got
two
arguments
here.
T
You
can
either
say:
there's
gonna
be
a
bunch
of
school
kids
in
there,
which
means
that
there'll
be
plenty
of
parking
because
school
kids
don't
drive
cars
or
you're
gonna
have
you
know
still
cars
and
and
no
students
that
won't
affect
the
school
so
either
way
it
kind
of
balances
itself
out.
But
I
think
two
per
is
a
very
adequate
parking
ability.
So
that's
why
I
willing
to
prove
it.
A
J
I
I
agree
with
what
commissioner
brown
just
said.
I'm
sympathetic
to
mr
miracle,
as
well
as
to
anybody
else's
property,
will
abut
this,
but
mr
wilson
makes
an
excellent
point.
Nobody
wants
to
be
holding
office
space.
Now,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
people
to
do
it.
If
you
have
that
in
your
portfolio,
you're,
probably
hurting
and
and
what
could
have
gone
there
could
have
been
vastly
worse
than
having
residential
units
there,
you
could
have
had
a
two-story
building.
There
was
an
urgent
care
facility
with
lights
on
24.
J
You
know
every
waking
hour
you
could
have
had
other
facilities
that
would
be
undesirable
there
that
would
still
fit
in
with
the
office
buildings
as
opposed
to
people
having
their
families
living.
Next
to
this
subdivision,
I
think
all
things
considered
given
what's
happened
with
the
economy,
that
what
mr
wilson
wilson's
proposing
makes
a
great
deal
of
sense
and
is
probably
the
highest
and
best
use
for
that
property.
G
I
agree
with
the
site.
I
think
the
applicant's
done
a
lot
to
take
the
the
adjacent
hoa
and
the
homeowners
into
consideration
by
putting
those
three
buildings
against
the
street,
actually
providing
some
kind
of
a
sound
barrier
and
having
to
go
with
the
30,
the
two
per
unit
parking
and
just
having
two
bedroom
units.
G
So
my
my
still
got
have
a
concern
about
parking.
I
thought
that
maybe
be
able
to
have
excess
parking
there
on
cloverdale
and,
unfortunately,
that's
not
going
to
happen.
I
would
like
to
see
a
condition
which
is
for
some
signage
provided
by
the
applicant
at
the
entry
to
that
adjacent
neighborhood,
just
stating
something
to
the
effect
that
parkings
for
members
of
the
rockhampton
hoa
or
subdivision
and
guests
only.
G
G
It
makes
it
a
little
difficult,
but
that's
obviously
that
that
does
mess
up
the
design,
and
I
just
would
like
to
see
just
does
it
landscape
screening
so
that
some
sort
of
arbor
provider
or
some
kind
of
a
tall
evergreen
that
goes
along
there
to
try
to
mitigate
that
that
back
left
building.
D
Madam
chair,
I'm
not
a
lot
new
to
ad
just
emulate.
I
think
you
know.
The
commission
everybody's
had
some
very
insightful
thoughts
as
an
individual
who's
had
apartment
buildings.
You
know,
I
don't
want
to
say,
threatened
because
that's
not
right,
but
as
a
potential
as
a
potential
neighbor.
You
know
there.
There
are
some
concerns
there
that
I
do
think
have
some
validity,
but
I
think
that
you
know
their
their
family,
members
and
and
and
families
or
or
community
members,
and
and
they
have
a
stake
in
the
game
too.
D
So
you
know
this
this
project,
this
site,
you
know
in
the
future,
if,
if
the
city
of
boise
it
ever
got
fully
annexed
in
that
proposed
uses
which
include
office
uses
and
potential
secondary
uses
of
the
43.5
units
per
acre,
I
think,
is
what
is
either
commissioner
brown
or
coulson
were
alluding
to.
D
You
know
that
could
that
could
potentially
have
a
lot
greater
impact
than
than
this
project
and
it's
good
to
see
some
some
high
densities
high
density
projects
in
in
the
county,
because,
typically,
I
feel
like
we
do
a
lot
of
urban
sprawling
and
and
then
are
playing
catch
up
on
trying
to
find
places
to
infill
high
density.
A
A
You
know
if
there's
a
way
to-
and
I
know,
there's
ease
months-
and
I
know
there's
a
bunch
of
things
that
I
understand
so
I
know
that
there's
ways
that
you
could
make
that
building
not
be
exactly
looking
in
people's
back
lot
yards,
and
so
I
think,
if
you
could
modify
that
at
all,
that
might
help
go
a
long
way
to
making
the
neighbors
happier
and
then
also
talking
about
what
appropriate
screening
might
look
like.
A
Knowing
that
the
tree
roots
aren't
aren't
going
to
be
the
best
answer,
maybe
there's
a
a
different
answer
that
is
more
longer
term.
That
makes
more
sense
so
working
on
the
screening
and
working
on
the
maybe
the
design
between
now
and
when
you
talk
to
the
county
commissioners,
so
that'd
be
my
recommendation.
Go
ahead.
T
T
One
of
the
things
I
didn't
like
about
the
house
that
I
was
going
to
buy
on
the
that
was
already
pre-existing
built
house
was
that
the
neighbor
right
behind
me
was
a
two-story
house
as
well
as
the
house
I
was
buying
and
sitting
on
the
patio.
The
person
on
the
second
story
is
looking
into
my
backyard,
so
to
think
that
having
an
apartment
with
a
patio
is
any
different
than
having
a
house.
That's
right
behind
you
with
a
window
that
is,
you
know,
I
mean
it's
looking
in
your
backyard
is
kind
of
silly.
W
T
Put
up
arbovitus
so
that
the
neighbor
behind
them
can't
look
in
their
backyard
from
their.
You
know
bonus
room
or
their
kids
room.
Upstairs
I
mean
it's
when
you
buy
in
a
in
a
subdivision
where
there's
things
close
together,
it's
what
happens.
You
know
if
you
buy,
you
know,
buy
out
60
acres,
you
don't
have
that
problem,
but
if
you're
in
that
subdivision,
so
I
don't
know,
I
think
it's
hard
to
put
any
stipulations
on
them
to
do
that
when
just
a
block
away
or
across
the
street
from
this,
you
wouldn't
need
it.
A
Know
chris
brown,
I
can
totally
appreciate
that
and
that's
why
I
didn't
suggest
it
to
be
added
to
the
motion,
but
I
wanted
the
applicants
to
hear
my
comments
tonight
as
as
ideas
as
they
move
forward
to
the
county
commissioners.
So
any
other
discussion
before
we
vote.
A
U
I
do
have
one
thing
and-
and
it
is
just
for
them
to
to
hear
I
I
mean-
with
respect
to
the
homeowner
that
lives
behind
there
and
the
deck
out
on
the
back.
I
see
no
reason
why
that
building
we're
talking
about
just
spinning
at
90
degrees,
so
you're
already
entering
the
other
one.
It's
just
it's
a
thought
that
maybe
being
courteous
see
to
the
neighbors
back
there.
That's
that's
kind
of
my
take
on
it.
A
Okay,
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
mo
we've
got
a
motion
on
the
floor.
We're
ready
for
a
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion.
Please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Please
say
I!
So
let
the
minutes
reflect
that
everybody
voted
for
the
motion.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
in
tonight.
We
appreciate
everybody's
comments.
A
The
next
project
is
two
zero.
Two
two
zero
zero,
two
nine
seven
humphreys
william
and
mr
danielson's
got
this
project.
H
Pr
is
a
primary
platform,
three
lot
subdivision
with
a
private
road
in
the
rural
urban
transition
district.
The
property
is
located
on
south
stuart
road
north
of
east
hubbard
road
and
contains
approximately
19.06
acres
lots.
One
in
two
of
the
subdivision
will
consist
of
five
acres,
and
these
are
the
the
two
lots
that
are
kind
of
on
this
south
part
of
the
proposed
side.
Division
lot:
three,
which
is
the
northern
lot,
will
consist
of
9.05
acres.
H
The
proposed
subdivision
complies
with
chapter
8-6
of
the
county
code,
since
the
proposed
laws
comply
with
the
dimensional
standards
for
the
rural
urban
transition
district,
the
rawson
canal
and
far
lateral
lie
within
the
project
boundary.
The
boise
project
board
of
control
starts
a
40
foot
ease,
made
both
directions
for
the
roston
canal
center
line.
The
rawson
canal
basically
forms
the
western
and
southern
boundary
of
the
subdivision,
and
then
they
also
the
board.
H
The
property
is
within
meridian's
area
of
city
impact.
Therefore,
the
marine
comprehensive
plan,
as
adopted
by
a
county,
is
the
applicable
comprehensive
plan.
The
future
land
use
map
designates
the
property
is
low
density,
residential,
which
is
intended
for
single
family
homes
and
densities
of
three
dwelling
units
or
less
per
acre.
H
H
The
county
highway
districts
say
that
this
development
is
estimated
to
generate
27
additional
vehicle
trips
per
day
with
three
additional
vehicle
trips
per
hour
in
the
p
and
peak
hour
based
on
the
institute
of
transportation
engineers,
ship
generation
manual,
11th
edition
staff
finds
that
the
application
complies
with
a
county
code
and
the
merging
conference
appliance
is
adopted
by
a
county
and
recommends
approval.
This
application
to
the
commission
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
X
X
Mr
danielson,
would
you
mind
going
to
that?
First?
I
think
it's!
Your
second
slide,
yeah!
That's
what
it's
currently
the
design
and
if
I
were
to
I
plan
on
building
and
if
I
were
to
use
the
the
lane
cleared
down
on
the
rosten
canal,
that's
a
very,
very,
very
long
driveway.
X
So
the
idea
here
is
to
just
split
the
two
way:
the
two
parcels:
one's
14
acres
and
one's
five
acres,
two
two
fives
and
a
nine.
So
it's
pretty
simple
and
then
the
the
private
road
would
go
on.
That
would
go
where
the
the
five
acre
parcel
there
on
the
south
east
up
on
the
the
north
part
of
that.
That's
where
the
private
road
goes
across
to
give
access
to
the
three
or
the
two
back
parcels.
A
What
questions
you
guys
have
any
questions.
I
wondered:
what
was
across
the
street
is
that
four
four
five
acre
lots
across
the
street.
X
X
A
And
as
I
understand
it,
your
road
is
gonna.
The
new
private
road
is
that
red
line
that's
coming
off
of
stewart
road.
C
X
There's
there's
some
dotted
lines
because
that's
the
easement
and
then
there's
kind
of
like
a
cul-de-sac,
part
at
the
end
circle
part.
That's
where
the
that's
where
the
road
would
go.
It
makes
a
lot
more
sense
for
utilities
for
for
everything
and
then
you're
not
so
cl.
There's
a
the
way
the
stuart
road
goes.
It
goes
south
and
then
it
it
hits
into
hubbard
right
there
and
there's
actually
a
lot
of
there's
some
problems,
sometimes
with
people
driving
and
not
seeing
signs.
X
A
D
So
my
questions,
I've
got
two
and
I'll
just
pose
them
both
to
you.
First,
were
you
present
at
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
if
so,
did
anybody
show
up
and
what
was
their
disposition
or
any
comments
that
you
you're
incorporating
in
your
application?
Yeah.
X
We
know
all
the
neighbors
now
and
only
the
the
folks
that
I
bought
the
property
from
that
that
five
acre
parcel
there
on
the
the
the
well-overs
they
were,
the
only
only
ones
who
showed
up
we've
talked
to
them
all
the
time
they
didn't
have
anything
they
kind
of
just
wanted
to
see
who
would
show
up
yeah,
but
that
was
it
and
we've
I've
met
and
talked
to
just
outside
of
the
meeting,
because
I
know
the
meeting
has
to
be
a
meeting,
but
I've
talked
to
all
the
neighbors
over
there
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
road.
C
X
I
did
have
a
chance
to
review
those
and
it's
kind
of
lengthy,
I
admit
the
only
the
only
one
that
I
or
as
two
that
I
had
but
I've
talked
with
are
conversed
shortly
with
mr
danielson.
I
don't
think
it's
a
big
deal,
but
under
I
guess
it
would
be
under
construction
standards
d
talking
about
the
composition
of
the
private
road.
It's
going
to
be
a
gravel
road
at
this
point
and
actually
the
the
contractor
and
the
civil
engineer
I'm
working
with.
X
We
would
like
to
make
the
road
even
better
than
that,
but
it
might
not
have
six
inches
of
gravel.
It
would
have
almo
more
than
a
foot
of
pit
run
to
make
the
road
stronger
and
then
it
would
have
like
four
inches
of
gravel.
The
gravel's
just
gonna
get
spread
anyways.
So
the
idea
is
to
make
the
road
even
better
than
their
requirements,
but
it
might
not
have
as
much
gravel
have
a
far
more
pit
run
to
make
it
stronger.
This
is
all
new
to
me.
X
The
contractor
is
explaining
how
it'll
make
the
road
a
lot
last
a
lot
longer
and
be
a
lot
better.
So
as
long
as
the
understanding
is
that
the
six
inches
of-
if
that's
not
if
I
I
can
do
better,
then
that's
that's
the
goal
here
is
to
do
better
than
than
that.
So
that's
one
point
and
then
the
other
point,
which
I
think
I'm
fine
with
is
b
again
no,
never
mind.
X
Excuse
me
this
is
this
is
on
page:
let's
do
a
paging
around
these
are
15,
there's
a
part
about
central
district
health
and
I've
now
talked
to
them.
This
talks
about
a
full
engineering
report,
but
I've
got
their
application
now
and
I
can
work
through
that
and
get
they
just
need
soil
samples
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I
don't
have
a
problem
so
long
answer
to
your
question.
I
think
I'm
good
with
it
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
X
A
Mr
danielson,
do
you
want
to
comment
about
the
engineer
the
road
it
looks
like
it?
It
depends
on
what
the
county
engineer
wants.
H
Yeah
so
that,
basically
I'm
amateur,
that's
basically
the
minimum
standard,
so
that's
the
bare
minimum
somebody
would
have
to
construct
the
private
road
to
the
in
their
code
for
the
private
road.
The
county
engineer
can
approve
of
an
alternative
plan,
and
so
you
know,
as
long
as
the
county
engineer
is
okay
with
what
mr
humphreys
is
proposing,
then
that
would
you
know
work
would
be
fine,
because
the
county
engineer
has
approved
that
materials.
Okay,.
A
D
G
Chair,
commissioner,
give
me
a
shout
out
based
on
finding
the
fact
inclusion
of
law
contained
here
and
the
testimony
from
the
public
hearing.
The
commission
recommends
approval
project
2022-00297.
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
second
second,
by
commissioner
extent,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
that
we
approve
this
application.
Any
comments.
C
B
A
A
That
was
so.
I
think
the
next
item
is
the
minutes.
A
A
L
A
L
You
guys
might
have
a
new
bar
to
shoot
for
if
you
ever
get
an
easy
agenda
one
of
these
times,
but
the
first
item
was
a
vacation,
we're
not
a
vacation,
a
variance
to
the
boise
green
greenway
overlay
district.
This
is
in
the
eagle
area
off
of
old
valley
road.
That
item
was
tabled.
L
We
had
another
variance
to
the
same
overlay,
district
and
kind
of
generally
the
same
area,
and
that
was
approved
and
then
last
one
was
sorry
you're
dealing
with
the
guy
who's
recovering
from
a
cold
so
subdivision
in
the
private
road.
Preliminary
plot
for
a
two
lot
subdivision
out
in
the
star
area
off
pollard
lane,
basically
creating
two
five
acre
lots:
one
lot
will
remain
in
the
county.
The
other
one
will
go
into
the
city
of
star
for
a
future
residential
development.
L
That's
all
that
we
had
on
the
agenda.
I
will
let
you
know
that
the
board
gave
staff
direction
or
approval
to
go
out
and
tackle
that
winery
and
event
use
update
that
we've
all
been
wrestling
with
for
the
last
12
months,
staff
had
a
bunch
of
open
houses.
Last
week,
too,
open
houses
last
week
for
our
broader
zoning
code,
rewrite
and
I'd
say
three
quarters
of
people
that
showed
up
people
who
want
to
talk
about
wineries.
So
we
we
basically
said
you
know.
L
That's
we
hear
you
and
we're
gonna
have
a
more
focused
conversation
on
that
and
try
to
come
up
with
something
we've
got
engaged
stakeholders
on
both
sides.
You
know.
Obviously
the
neighbors,
particularly
in
that
eagle
foothills
area,
are
pretty
want
to
know,
what's
going
on,
want
to
try
to
figure
something
out,
but
we've
got
the
wineries
that
want
to
figure
something
out
too.
L
And
operators,
in
terms
of
folks
who
attended
the
open
houses
and
had
questions
is
that
what
you're
asking
yeah
it
was
mainly
neighbors.
We
didn't
have
winery
operators
stopping
by,
but
they
have
reached
out
to
us
and
said
we
hear
that
you're
doing
this,
we
want
to
be
a
part
of
this
they've
been
talking
to
us
from
before,
just
dealing
with
what
they're
experiencing
here
and
at
the
board
like
hey,
let's
get
together
and
try
to
do
something
better,
so
they've
been
they've
wanted
to
do
this
for
a
while.
So
is
the
neighborhood.
L
B
I
just
have
a
quick
question
related
to
that.
Assuming
something
does
happen
where
there's
a
new
like
winery
specific
thing
would,
you
know,
do
dewal,
for
example,
who
had
to
apply
prior
to
all
of
that?
Would
they
be
able
to
either
like
reapply
as
the
new
status
if
they
wanted
to,
or
would
they
be
like
grandfathered
and
converted
in
like
how
would
that
work
for
existing
things
that
we've
already
decided
on
for
like
cups
and
such.
L
But
the
way
it's
been
going
lately
they've
been
much
more
restrictive
than
what
our
ordinance
allows.
So
I
think
it's
probably
going
to
land
in
somewhat
the
same
place
anyways,
but
they
would
have
to
reapply
okay,
they're
not
automatically
just
given
all
the
allowances
of
of
the
new
winery
operation,
so
but
I'd
love
to
hear
burch
and
roush's
thoughts
on
that.
If
there's
any
counter
opinion.
D
I
think
he
hit
it
on
the
head.
As
far
as
I'm
aware
of
that,
it's
it's
in
the.
What
what
the
was
it
entitlement
is
that
the
correct
word
for
the
for
the
the
restrictions
in
place
on
the
property.
At
the
time
like
like
what
you
were
saying
with
the
approved
the
approved
use
with
the
approved
permit,
so.
L
J
B
B
And
just
because
I'm
nosy
as
well,
if
there
is
like
that
new
designation
and
they
someone
chose
to
reapply
because
it
was
less
restrictive
or
they
just
wanted
to
in
general,
that
already
had
been
approved
by
us
prior.
Would
they
come
to
us
for
that
approval,
or
would
it
just
go
straight
to
the
board
of
county
commissioners?
No.
L
A
My
comment
was:
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
agriculture,
like
the
flower
in
the
cut
flower
place
that
aren't
exactly
wineries
right,
are
kind
of
connected
with
that.
Having
lots
of
people
come
to
do
things
and
having
food
trucks
come,
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
incorporate
some
of
those
concepts.
We.
L
Are
yeah
yeah
we're
broadening
the
scope?
Originally,
we
were
very
focused
on
wineries
and
then
just
all
the
discussions
led
us
to
the
conclusion
that
it's
maybe
some
more
of
the
events
associated
with
those
with
the
problem
and
then
in
our
newest
version
of
the
code.
We
came
up
with
something
called
aggregate
by
the
way
people
don't
love
that
name,
so
we
might
be
changing
that.
But
it's
this
idea
of
kind
of
agriculturally
inspired
entertainment
uses
so
still
very
ag
focused,
but
definitely
incorporating
a
more
commercial
element
that
one
has
also
come
under
fire.
L
L
I
mean
goat
yoga,
everybody
loves
so
we're
gonna
leave
that
one
alone.
No,
I
don't
know
that
probably
would
be
agritainment,
but
some
other
great
things
that
have
come
out
of
that
are
neighborhood
meeting
practices.
You
know
you
guys
are
bringing
this
up,
so
we're
going
to
look
at
some
things.
There
too,
as
you
know,
we
still
have
time
on
this
a
bigger
amendment,
but
some
of
those
things
are
kind
of
bubbling
to
the
top
of.
How
do
we
ensure?
How
can
we
better
ensure
quality?
L
Neighborhood
meetings
are
occurring,
so
there
might
be
some
some
actual
code,
language
that
we
add
there.
We
might
just
update
our
best
our
internal
practice,
which
would
require
maybe
a
copy
of
the
sign-in
sheet
and
a
copy
of
the
notice
that
people
received
so
that
you
can
be
like
okay,
I
saw
what
you
told
them
and
here's
what
you're
showing
to
us
so
help
me
understand
why
these
are
different.
You
know,
that's
certainly
something
that
could
happen.
L
We
just
wouldn't
want
to
work
against
people
that
again
hear
something
at
a
meeting
turn
in
something
slightly
different
and
then
everyone's
crying
foul
that
it's
not
exactly
what
was
presented
at
the
meeting.
So
those
are
kind
of
the
slippery
slopes
that
we've
gotta
navigate
through
this
process,
but
we
definitely
have
heard
neighborhood
meetings
might
be
improved
a
little
bit
so
we'll
try
to
focus
on
that
too.
D
Just
on
the
topic
of
neighborhood
meetings
have
have
you
ran
into
the
the
mixed
neighborhood
meeting,
because
I
know
we
that
was
a
big
discussion
with
the
ordnance
amendment
several
months
ago,
nine
months
ago,
maybe
with
offering
online
or
virtual
remote
options
in
conjunction.
You
know.
L
That
hasn't
been
we've
had
people
make
use
of
the
virtual
that
hasn't
come
up
as
something
that
people
are
upset
about
yeah
funny
enough.
We've
had
some
cell
towers
that
use
the
virtual.
We
did
that
you
know.
I
think
the
language
that
you
put
in
there
and
that
was
ultimately
kind
of
refined
by
the
board
has
helped
us
create
an
internal
practice
and
a
kind
of
a
basically
the
request
to
the
director
and
a
justification
for
that
request
that
we
have
to
approve
or
ultimately
richard
beck
our
boss
has
to
approve.
L
So
that's
been
a
good
change
to
everything,
but
yeah
that
seems
to
be
working
well.
So
is
there
another
question.
B
Yeah
with
the
like
the
mailing
radius,
because
I
know
that
with
the
winery
especially
way
out
there,
where
it's
very
large
lots,
I
know
that's
kind
of
come
up
yeah.
Oh
I'm
not
right
within
the
300,
so
I
never
knew
this
happened,
yeah
just
kind
of
throwing
it
out
there
as
like
a
possible
idea.
Could
we
maybe
for
the
aggretainment
options
and
other
winery
things,
increase
that
radius
just
for
those
or
does
it
have
to
be
like
a
complete
ada
county
code.
L
We
already
have
a
section
of
code
that
excuse
me,
calls
out
specific
uses
and
an
increased
radius
notice,
so
that
wouldn't
be
a
problem
and
if
you're
reading
the
news
we're
in
the
news
a
lot
these
days,
the
whole
75
alcohol
licensing
thing
yeah
that's
been
coming
up.
You
know
that's
a
clerk's
office
requirement,
but
obviously
we're
looking
at
the
same
projects
just
earlier
in
the
process.
L
So
we
are
figuring
out
ways
to
better
coordinate
the
clerk's
office
and
some
of
the
things
that
we're
coming
up
with
might
be
an
increased
notice
for
users
that
are
planning
to
sell
alcohol
or
need
a
license,
and
some
other
things
like
that.
So
that's
coming
up.
I
think
highly
likely
that
we'll
see
something
like
that
come
out
of
this
process.
So
so
that's
it.
L
There
was
a
way
to
get
that.
Are
we
talking
about
the
cal
lily?
Whoa?
Sorry,
we're
talking
about
callaway
subdivision.
You
know
I
think
with,
and
I
apologize.
If
I
interrupted
it,
I
thought
it
was
a
good
discussion.
I
just
thought
what
I
knew.
What
you're
trying
to
get
to,
and
I
felt
like
you
were
wrestling
with:
does
it
go
in
the
findings?
Does
it
go
in
the
conditions
of
approval?
What
do
we
do
with
this?
Because
we
have
the
benefit
of
that
being
a
recommendation.
L
I
thought
you
could
take
the
pressure
off
yourself
and
let
staff
go
figure
that
out
with
legal.
That
is
definitely
going
to
be
a
part
of
this
conversation,
because
the
board's
going
to
hear
the
same
thing
there
that
they're
hearing
here
I
like
that
you
kicked
it
around,
but
I
think
in
a
situation
like
that,
where
you're
we
don't
have
an
attorney
here,
we
don't
have
the
benefit
that
the
board
has
of
having
an
attorney.
That
could
say,
hey
we're
going
into
executive
session
and
I'm
going
to
advise
people
on
something.
L
So
I'm
certainly
not
an
attorney,
never
will
be
an
attorney.
So
I
think
in
situations
like
that,
where
you
have
the
ability
to
kick
it
to
the
board,
I
would
do
that.
L
I
think,
if
you're
going
to
put
it
in
the
findings,
you
might
want
to
put
it
in
the
conditions
too,
because
the
planners
ultimately
have
to
say
we
have
to
figure
out
what
the
trigger
is
to
say.
Did
that
did
that
occur?
Have
they
met
the
requirements
of
the
project
and
just
putting
in
the
findings,
in
my
opinion,
isn't
strong
enough.
So
I
think
the
conditions
of
approval
would
also
need
to
occur,
but
I
think
you
guys
are
raising
some
good
questions.
Can
we
require
someone
to
give
someone
else
property?
L
I
can
tell
you
I've
personally
been
involved
in
a
lot
of
projects
where
we
did
require
that
and
it
worked
out
now
and
some
of
those
actually
went
to
judicial
review
so
that
part
hasn't
been
challenged.
It's
usually
the
neighborhood
benefiting
from
what
the
developer
is
trying
to
do.
So
if
it's
a
voluntary
thing
on
the
developer's
behalf,
they
can
they
can
agree
to
that
condition.
I
don't
think
it's
an
exaction
or
anything
like
that.
That
would
be.
You
know,
problematic.
L
To
be
yeah,
and
I
think
you
were
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
they
shake
hands
at
the
end
of
that
right.
So
I
think
that
was
a
good.
I
again
a
really
good
discussion.
I
just
thought,
rather
than
figure
out
what
the
legalese
needs
to
be
and
where
it
needs
to
go,
we
could
just
have
staff
talk
to
the
legal
team.
A
L
So
yeah,
it
is
an
interesting
thing
where
it's
private
party
or
private
party
I
do.
I
think
you
all
were
good
in
hesitating
there,
but
I
also
feel
like
again.
This
is
part
of
this
land
use
entitlement
process,
and
if
someone
doesn't
want
to
comply
with
that
condition,
they
can
challenge
it
somewhere
else
and.
T
That
saves
us
a
lot
of
trouble
like
they
brought
it
to
the
table,
like
the
applicant
brought
it
to
the
table
with
an
attorney.
Their
attorney
probably
could
have
very
easily
just
made
it
part
of
the
deal
like
here's,
the
here's,
the
deed
we've
already
written
it
up.
This
is
yeah
like
it
could
have
already.
C
T
L
I
felt
like
they
were
trying
to
do
that
at
the
end.
In
fact,
I
know
I
mean
they
said
they
were,
but
I
think
that
was
kind
of
something
that
occurred
later
in
the
conversation
or
the
review
of
the
application.
But
yeah
I
mean
it
sounds
like
that's
what
the
neighborhood
wanted
to
begin
with.
I
think
there
was
initially
some
idea
of
a
large
blanket
easement
or
something
to
that
effect
and
that
wasn't
getting
it
getting
the
ball
far
enough
for
him.
So
that's
why
deeding?
G
L
T
T
B
T
L
Was
similar
to
that
yeah,
where
you
would
allow
lots
for
a
residential
purpose
under
the
allowed
size
of
the
zone
in
exchange
for
a
large
area
set
aside
at
a
high
level
sounds
great
sounds
like
an
awesome
thing.
It's
the
challenge.
Is
the
community
systems
and
keeping
those
functioning
which
this
one
seems
like
they're
on
top
of
it?
But
there
are
a
lot.
U
L
Right
and
they
weren't
wait
a
minute
yeah,
so
there
was
a
big
period
of
failed
developments
and
and
public
utility
bailouts,
basically
saying
yeah,
we'll
run
sewer,
I
mean
that's
the
story
of
the
southwest
boise
area.
Basically,
is
we
allowed
a
lot
of
that
non-farm
stuff
to
occur
and
or
the
city
was
extending
lines
outside
of
city
limits
and
all
of
a
sudden
like
wait
a
minute?
We
are
like
bleeding
money
on
all
of
this
infrastructure
that
we've
sent
beyond
city
limits.
L
We
shouldn't
do
that
anymore,
but
one
of
the
contributors
to
that
was
these
non-farm
developments,
where
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
a
million
dollars
to
replace
the
system
and
no
one
put
any
money
aside
and
no
one's
going
to
pay
for
it.
So
you
have
15
homes.
I
have
to
split
a
million
dollars
like
that
sounds
like
a
really
bad
day.
I
would
not
want
to
be
a
part
of
that,
so
so
we're
trying
that's
why
we
got
rid
of
that
ordinance,
but
and.
L
So
all
right,
you
guys
only
have
to
do
one
hearing
next
month,
so
congrats
we
will
have
two
in
june,
though
our
board
has
the
board
of
equalization
if
you're
familiar
with
that,
it's
basically
where
folks
with
property
taxes,
get
to
show
up
and
argue
for
a
reduction
or
change
so
that
keeps
them
very
busy
in
june.
They
only
have
one
hearing,
but
you
will
have
two
and
I'm
sorry,
I
know
that's
not
fun
to
do
in
the
summer
time
I
wouldn't
want
to.
L
I
don't
want
to
be
at
two
hearings
for
you
guys
in
the
summer
time,
but
it's
kind
of
the
world
we're
in
right.
Now
we
are
incredibly
busy
and
in
fact
I
think,
maybe
at
our
next
meeting
I'll
do
a
we
have
something
called
a
business
activity
report
for
development
services.
We
are
at
a
12-year
high
for
applications
and
everything
else
that
we're
processing,
so
you
guys
are
in
the
midst
of
you,
know
one
of
the
bigger
waves
here
in
ada
county
as
it
comes
to
development
requests
and
things
like
that.
L
A
L
No
nothing
there.
Those
will
be
heard
by
the
board.
I
think
we
have
at
least
one
next
month
and
then
quite
a
few
in
june
that
were
here
and
got
appealed.
So,
okay,
all
right
well,
thank.