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From YouTube: March 31, 2021 Caucus - Work Session
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the April 5, 2021 Agenda was discussed.
B
Thank
you
welcome
everyone
to
the
march
31st
caucus
of
the
albany
common
council
present
for
the
record
are
council
members
flynn,
anani,
howie,
farrell,
fahey,
conti,
frederick
and
doshay,
along
with
staff,
danielle
gillespie,
our
clerk,
john
rafael,
ricciardo,
our
research
council
and
brett
williams.
The
corp
council
and
along
comes
mr
robinson,
also
include
him.
B
B
C
D
I'm
sorry
I
was
I
was
talking
to
my
mom
and
my
son
they're
on
the
other
side
of
the
computer.
Talking
I'm
so
sorry,
I'm
assuming
they're
on
standby,
I'll
reach
out
to
them
first
thing
in
the
morning
just
to
make
sure
that
once
the
it's
approved
and
then
signed
off
by
the
mayor,
everything
is
available
for
public
consumption
and
then
I'll.
Let
you
know
or
send
an
email
out
to
the
council
body
to
let
them
know
how
quickly
they
can
have
it
go,
live.
B
B
B
B
It's
all
in
the
building
in
code
enforcement
realm
next
local
law.
I,
if
anyone
has
any
questions
or
comments,
just
throw
your
hand
up
I'll,
eventually
see
you
local
law,
eye
of
2021
by
miss
fahey
and
again
has
to
do
with
the
residential
occupancy
permits
and
rental
dwelling
registry.
That
will
be
a
referral
to
law.
F
B
G
G
B
B
B
G
C
H
C
C
Was
introduced
in
the
form
of
an
ordinance
this
one,
which
adds
a
new
section
to
that
same
chapter,
is
introduced
as
a
local
law
and
the
original
chapter.
The
underlying
chapter
was
added
by
local
law.
So
I'm
not
sure
why
the
ordinance
that
was
actually
noticed
and
discussed
in
committee
that
comes
later,
why
that
was
done
as
ordinance
versus
when
it
should
have
been
done
as
a
local
law.
I
C
C
C
I
I
think-
and
I
apologize
if
I'm
mistaken
here,
but
e-code
said
that
371-54,
which
is
the
section
at
issue
in
ordinance,
4
31-21,
that
it
was
amended
by
1
18
1990,
which
I
guess
I
took
to
mean
an
ordinance
because
that's
how
we
number
ordinances
right,
although
now
that
I
think
about
it,
118
the
18
wouldn't
be
an
ordinance
so
yeah.
I
suppose
I
I
misinterpreted
that
as
being
having
been
amended
by
ordinance
rather
than
local
law.
I
I
C
I
I
A
A
E
C
E
B
B
B
H
H
H
E
B
I
The
local
law
refers
to
section
357-4,
a
and
b
in
a
few
different
locations
that
I
have
to
change
that
to
357.2
a
and
b.
That's
just
a
small
edit.
It
won't
change
any
of
the
substance
of
the
local
law,
but
I
will
need
to
make
that
edit
before
it
gets
acted
on
so
okay.
I
guess
that
I
don't
know
if
we
can
bypass
a
sort
of
ministerial
typographical
change
without
having
to
age
the
law
again.
C
B
F
Just
a
point
of
information:
I
don't
know
if
anybody
reads
the
new
york
state
report,
but
buffalo
is
also
had
an
awful
lot
of
problems
and
they're
fortunate
enough
to
have
the
erie
county
sheriff's
department,
which
seems
they're
going
to
be
helping
them
out
with
their
helicopters,
finding
these
atvs
and
bikes.
So
maybe
sometime,
we
could
just
get
a
couple
of
days
with.
K
F
B
B
B
B
D
E
A
Oh
kelly,
right
before
we
I
didn't
realize
we
already
went
over
the
u.s
deal
renumbering
just
because
for
the
right.
Yes,
yes,
go
ahead,
yeah
for
the
for
the
minutes.
This
is
what
nikon
recommends.
So,
just
as
everybody
saw
in
my
email
last
week,
I
just
want
to
make
just
to
reaffirm
it.
The
u.s
still
remembering
based
on
secret,
it's
a
type
2
action.
So
no
further
environmental
review
has
to
be
done
on.
E
E
B
H
J
M
B
H
C
A
N
I'm
okay
with
voting
for
it
on
monday,
but
I'm
actually
curious
what
the
administration
is
doing
leads
to
trying
to
promote
more
affordable
homes
in
the
city.
So
that's
the
only
thing
that
I
wouldn't
mind
taking
it
to
committee,
to
hear
some
of
the
steps
that
being
taken
to
address
some
of
the
endeavors
of
this
resolution.
F
B
C
B
C
H
H
A
H
J
M
E
B
D
B
B
B
J
C
I'm
not
sure
exactly
when
that
happened,
but
there
was
some
video
of
that
on
social
media
that
I
think
appeared
today:
county
exec,
dan,
mccoy
county
legislative
leader,
andrew
joyce,
both
put
out
statements
condemning
it
and
calling
for,
I
guess
his
resignation.
I
also
put
out
my
own
statement
today
as
well,
and
I
can
forward
that
to
everyone
I'll
send
that
I'll
send
it
to
danielle,
maybe,
and
she
can
forward
it
to
members
and
there's
something
else
to
just
cry.
I
know
there.
L
J
B
B
F
H
F
E
B
F
B
B
E
B
B
I
K
I
And
then,
since
I
guess
I
have
the
floor
for
the
moment,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
the
the
position
change
resolutions
with
the
last
batch.
The
council
had
asked
for
a
little
more
uniformity.
I
guess
with
regard
to
how
those
resolutions
are
put
together
and
presented
so
with
30,
33
and
34,
the
newest
ones
that
are
getting
introduced.
I
On
monday,
I
tried
to
kind
of
standardize
the
the
format
a
little
bit,
so
I
welcome
any
input
from
council
members
on
whether
that
seems
like
a
workable
format
or
if
there
are
any
changes
you'd
like
to
see,
I
tried
to
make
it
a
little
clearer
what
positions
are
being
eliminated
and
where
money
was
being
taken
out
of
and
what
positions
were
being
created
and
where
the
money
was
going.
So
again,
I
welcome
any
input
on
that
and
then
one
more
point
I
just
wanted
to.
I
L
B
H
Yes,
so
I
just
want
to
provide
some
immediate
feedback
that
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
with
creating
a
standard
format,
and
it
always
puzzled
me
when
I
started
with
the
common
council,
how
we
weren't
putting
actual
amounts
and
changes
into
our
resolutions,
which
I
think
is
really
critical
for
it
to
be
clear
what
we're
authorizing,
and
so
this
is
great
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
B
A
Yeah,
just
real
quick,
I
just
need
a
little
a
little
straw
poll.
I
guess
you
could
say
really
from
the
council
members.
We
did
get
a
re.
We
did
get
the
notice
from
the
planning
department
that
we
are
involved
agency,
we're
an
involved
agency
for
purposes
of
secret
for
the
project
on
washington,
avenue
and
they're,
asking
that
the
planning
board
be
the
lead
agent
or
if
we
oppose
it.
So
I
just
need
for
the
record,
for
the
minutes
is
any.
Is
everybody?
A
O
B
Okay,
so
yeah
local
see
we
were
we
kind
of
skimmed
it
earlier
it's
gotta
age,
but
we
had
a
pretty
in-depth
discussion
at
our
pub
the
last
public
safety
meeting,
and
I
just
wanted
to
I
I
again
I
personally,
I
I
I
don't
think
and
local
aussie
takes
the
the
ability
to
use
tear
gas
against
from
away
from
the
police
department.
I
don't
support
that,
but
I
wanted
to
have
a
discussion
to
get
other
members
thoughts.
B
E
Yeah,
I
didn't
participate
in
the
public
safety
committee
meeting,
but
but
my
feelings
are
and
that
you
know
maybe
it
should
be
tweaked
such
that
whatever
tear
gas
is
going
to
be
used.
It
requires
the
specific
consent
of
the
highest
ranking
person,
the
chief,
if
he's
there,
certainly
you
know
not
not
a
I.
E
I
guess
I
wouldn't
bring
it
down
to
the
commander
or
sergeant
level,
because
quite
frankly
I
mean
what
what
is
the
alternative-
and
I
mean
is-
is
the
only
other
alternative
shooting
projectiles
through
the
air
at
people
or
close
close
quartering
with
a
baton
or
with
a
spray
mace
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
that
as
a
riot
control
agent,
that's
what
it
was
designed
for
dispersing
people.
Obviously
it
has
to
be
used
wisely
and
not
frequently,
and
that's
that's
my
feeling
I
mean
it
seems
to
me.
E
O
Thanks
kelly,
I
I
did
listen
in
on
the
meeting
and
I
I
didn't
participate
because
I
I
really
wanted
to
listen.
I
know
so
little
really
about
tear
gas
and
oh
my
gosh.
What
what
an
incredibly
emotionally
charged
issue
it
is,
and
this
particular
meeting
anyone
who
wasn't
there.
I
would
strongly
encourage
you.
I
mean
it
was
a
long
meeting,
but
it's
worth
listening
in
and
I
have
to
honestly
say
during
the
course
of
the
meeting.
I
really
went
back
and
forth
as
to
whether
or
not
I
supported
this
or
not.
O
O
O
Alex
hanson
and
she
was
directly
affected.
Somebody
threw
a
brick
through
a
car
window
and
she
got
glass
in
her
arm
and
she
felt
like
her
life
was
being
threatened.
You
know
what
is
the
recourse
when
that
type
of
thing
happens
and
kelly,
you
know,
was
reminding
us
that
there
were
molotov
cocktails
being
thrown
at
the
police
as
well.
I
mean
people
and
it's
not
just
the
police,
of
course,
but
people
were
in
danger,
so
you
know
what
our
I
think
we
have
to
ask
that
question.
O
What
are
the
alternatives
now,
since
then,
I've
gone
back
and
done
more
research
on
the
cs,
gas,
and
I
know
it
I
mean
from
what
I'm
finding
out
is
that
it's
very
un,
unregulated
people
don't
know
the
long
term
effects
on
it.
So
this
really
there's
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
on
both
sides
of
this
argument.
O
H
Thank
you.
I
do
wanna
in
addition
to
the
conversations
that
were
had
during
the
public
safety
meeting.
Following
that
meeting,
we
received
the
mayor's
response
to
the
resolution
that
was
passed
passing
the
plan,
the
second
paragraph
of
that
talks
about
the
outreach
that
they
engaged
in
and
she
highlights
this
outreach
resulted
in
recommendations
such
as
the
reinvestment
of
asset
forfeiture,
the
ban
on
tear
gas
community
diversion
initiatives
and
countless
other
recommendations.
H
H
E
H
H
I
had
a
conversation
with
j.r
about
that
language
and
he
indicated
that
hostage
situation
is
a
hard
one
to
define.
I
went
into
the
penal
law
and
see
that
kidnapping
and
I
forget
the
other
terminology,
and
so
I
deals
with
restraining
individuals
against
their
will,
and
so
I
have
referred
to
that
because
mr
ballerin
also
raised
the
issue
of
it,
not
necessarily
being
an
indoor
situation.
H
H
I
am
concerned
about
the
escalation
of
violence.
My
perception,
the
escalation
of
violence
by
the
police
against
people
of
color,
and
that's
not
just
across
the
country
that
includes
here
in
albany,
and
I
have
had
an
enlightening
of
what
people
mean
when
they
talk
about
the
militarization
of
the
police.
H
B
G
Thank
you.
I
I
re
watched
the
whole
public
safety
hearing.
It
was
four
hours
I
mean,
and
it
was
tremendous
kelly
and
you
know
I
appreciate
you
keeping
the
process
moving.
I
did
send
everybody
an
email
with
the
an
article.
It
was
an
op-ed
from
a
national
guard.
I
think
he
was
a
colonel.
You
know
talking
about
the
militarization
of
crowd
control
and
this
is
a
serious
problem.
You
know
we're
a
democracy.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
We
got
a
problem
in
albany
where
we
don't
have
enough
policemen
right
now.
I've
been
saying
this
since
I
started
the
numbers
are
terrible.
You
know
we
keep
getting
the
academies
and
you
know
graduating,
but
people
are
leaving,
they
haven't
had
a
contract
in
years.
Well,
it's
a
union
problem.
Well,
no,
you
can
do
a
you
can
give
people
a
raise
right
across
the
board.
I
brought
this
up
the
meeting,
but
we'll
make
sure
everything
in
the
council
here's
this
there's
no
law.
That
says
you
can't
give
your
your
employees
a
raise.
G
We
do
it
all
the
time
in
these
resolutions
moving
money
around
and
doing
stuff
like
that,
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
that.
I
don't
see
any
union
saying,
don't
give
our
employees
more
money.
So
we
have
a
police
force.
That's
on
duty,
because
I
missed
I
wasn't
at
the
first
and
it
was
a
riot.
I
wasn't
at
the
first
ride.
It
was
at
the
second.
It
was
right
after
our
meeting
I
went
down
there.
These
guys
were
tired.
These
officers
were
standing
there
all
day
in
this
heavy
deer.
It
was
a
june
day.
G
It
was
warm.
I
remember
how
warm
it
was.
You
know,
standing
there,
people
yelling
at
him
dressed
up
in
military
garb.
I
mean
the
tensions
were
there,
it
was
a.
It
was
a
powdered
keg
ready
to
go
and
it
did
go
I
mean
so.
I
hear
people
say
well.
You
know
that
what
else
can
we
use?
What
did
they
use
a
hundred
years
ago?
What
did
they
use?
150
years
ago?
G
There
was
terrible
riots
in
albany
and
across
the
country
strikes
and
other
things.
What
were
used
for
crowd
control?
What
was
used
for
the
occupied
albany
crowd,
controlled
down
at
city
hall
at
city
hall,
did
they
use
tear
gas?
No,
they
went
in.
They
went
in
with
horses
and
stuff
like
that.
There
are
alternatives,
and
you
know
there's
an
old
saying.
Necessity
is
the
mother
of
invention.
G
G
G
I
think
I
got
a
picture
of
the
guy
sitting.
The
mattress
on
fire
underneath
the
police
car
was
that
person
ever
arrested.
I
don't
know
okay,
but
we're
the
people
who
make
the
the
policy
and
the
laws
in
this
city,
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
war.
This
is
a
good
start
that
not
to
use
weapons
and
that's
what
it
is.
It's
a
weapon
I
brought
up
at
the
meeting
I
got.
I
was
never
right
after
that
being
gassed.
G
I
had
all
sorts
of
intestinal
problems
I
had
to
have
part
of
my
intestine
taken
out
now.
Can
I
prove
that
was
that
tear
gas
night?
No,
but
I've
read
about
it,
I
I
googled
it
and
I've
done
some
research
and
you
know
we
don't
know
the
full
effects
of
these
these
chemicals,
and
you
know
I
think
we
really
need
to
push
this
forward
and-
and
I
hope
my
fellow
council
members
will
side
with
this
law.
Thank
you.
B
K
K
You
know,
de-escalation,
I
think
that
until
we
really
start
having
our
police
force
have
culturally
responsive
education,
where
you
have
or
where
you're
forced
to
have
everybody
in
a
room
and
really
work
through
their
differences
and-
and
you
know,
attempt
to
have
an
understanding,
because
you
can't
you
know
like
when
I
think
about
tear
gas,
I'm
thinking
about
it
being
used
on
our
high
school
students
going
to
and
from
school.
The
pictures
that
I
see
of
people
who
have
you
know
authority
over
our
kids.
K
You
know
that's
a
that's
how
the
tool,
that's
the
vision
of
the
tool
that
I
see
when
I
think
about
the
first
night
of
the
protest.
You
know
the
tool
that
was
utilized,
it
wasn't
an
announcement
and
it
wasn't
any
warning
it
just
was
utilized,
and
you
know
when
I
think
about
the
council
president
asking
a
question
about
what
is
the
the
regulation?
What
is
the
routines
and
not
being
able
to
give
be
given
a
a
a
clear
answer?
K
K
K
The
message
is
clear:
that
people
spoke.
I
don't
understand
why
we're
still
having
a
conversation
about
it.
You
know
you
know
I
I
I
didn't
want
to
say
this
to
the
chief,
but
that's
you
know
like
that's
where
I'm
expecting
that
45
000
increase
that
he
got
like
you
know.
I
feel
like
that's
where
you
can
show
your
worth
to
the
city
when
that
question
is
acts
as
the
head
of
the
apd,
you
had
a
chance
to
be
able
to
show.
K
P
Ballerina,
can
you
guys
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
so
I
want
to
piggyback
on
what
was
already
said.
It
was
a
very
emotional
meeting
and
part
of
it
was.
I
think,
because
of
the
presentation
that
apd
did.
Ap
did
did
a
presentation
about
the
type
of
get
the
fuse,
the
side
effects
and
so
so
forth
and
the
the
issue
I
had
with
the
presentation
biggest
issue
I
had
with
the
presentation,
was
that
it
had
very
little
lessons
learned.
P
You
know
those
those
those
fears
and
anxieties
and
and
burning
sensations
that
they
were
speaking
about,
and
I
will
be
the
first
to
admit
it
figured
it
was
a
trigger,
and
maybe
I
myself
didn't
explain
what
I
was
looking
for
as
clearly
as
I
would
I
wish
I
could
have,
and
I
got
caught
up
between
trying
between
saying
gun,
men
and
gun
person.
Let's
be
honest,
most
of
these
individuals
are
picking
up
gun
males.
P
I
do
appreciate
the
language
that
has
been
added
and
I
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
there
was
information
that
there
was
added
language
about
a
hosta
situation,
because
my
concerns
that
I
I
I'm
hoping
we
can
address
by
the
time
this
gets
to
the
floor
is,
is
not
that
it
shouldn't
be
not
that
it
shouldn't
be
banned.
When
we're
dealing
with
protests,
I
agree
it
should
be
damn
banned.
When
we're
dealing
with
protests,
it
should
be
used
as
a
tool
to
deal
with
disorder
conduct
it
shouldn't
be
used
in
that
manner.
P
P
I
understand
it's
not
that
doesn't
make
it
a
complete
total
ban,
but
it
gives
it
a
very
narrow
scope
of
how
it
could
be
used
that
I
do
believe
is
going
to
help
save
lives,
and
I
I
think
that
we
have
had
an
increase
in
gun
violence
in
our
city
and
not
just
have
we
had
an
increase
in
gun
violence.
We've
had
an
increase
in
the
in
the
style
of
the
violence.
We
have
seen
assassination
style.
P
The
last
thing
we
want,
if
it
can
be
prevented,
is
a
shootout
on
our
streets.
I
agree
with
with
councilwoman
dolce.
There
should
be
a
warning
and
there
should
be
an
announcement
made
so
that
residents
can
have
an
opportunity
to
close
their
windows
or
get
out
of
the
get
out
of
there.
I
can
tell
you
in
my
neighborhood
in
my
ward.
We
had
this
situation
a
few
months
ago,
so
it's
not
as
if
it's
this
far
far
away
thing
that
doesn't
happen.
Well,
we
thought
that
was
a
hassle.
P
P
I
also
believe
addresses
the
issues
and
concerns
that
are
being
brought
up
by
those
who
who
who
want
a
complete
ban.
I
think
it
also
brings
up
and
addresses
those
concerns,
and
I
do
think
it
protects
those
individuals
that
that
council
members
want
to
protect,
but
it
also
makes
it
so
that
it's
a
tool
that
can
be
used
when
we
have
a
severely
dangerous
situations,
specifically
when
we're
talking
about
hasta
situations
and
individuals
with
guns
in
our
neighborhoods.
E
Certainly,
if
the
chief's
going
to
be
there,
it
should
require
nothing
less
than
his
authorization,
which
obviously
didn't
happen,
because
they
had
to
fall
him
away
into
the
police
station
after
the
tear
grass
was
set
off.
So
I
guess
the
question
is
obviously
I
think
you
need
better
regulation
of
who
can
authorize
no
matter
what
circumstances
when
and
where,
because
it
seems
to
me
from
what
tom
said.
The
chief
didn't
even
know
that
that
it
was
going
to
go
on.
E
So
that's
that's
a
pretty
big
red
flag
on
how
it
was
used
at
that
particular
time.
The
other
point
is
tom.
Thomas
said
it's
banned
by
the
geneva
conventions.
I
don't
know
I.
I
was
a
jag
in
the
national
guard
and
I
went
to
jag
school
and
what
is
banned
in
the
geneva
conventions.
Are
all
the
nerve,
reagents
blood
agents
and
intended
to
be
lethal
weaponry,
that's
done
by
by
by
by
gases.
K
E
B
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
o'brien.
I
I
just
I
just
want
to
add-
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
mr
shea
earlier
about
trying
to
create
another
exception
by
way
of
having
the
the
chief
for
deputy
on-site,
making
the
call,
also
language
in
line
with
our
our
riot
first
in
the
penal
law.
New
york
state
is
an
e-felony
and
it's
it's
a
person,
that's
guilty
of
right,
and
this
is
in
response
to
this
riot
situation.
B
A
person
is
guilty
of
riot
when
10
or
more
persons
engages
in
tumultuous
violent
conduct,
thereby
intentionally
wreck
or
recklessly,
creates
a
grave
risk
of
public
harm
and
in
the
course
someone
gets
hurt.
Physical
injury
or
significant
substantial
property
damage
occurs
like
setting
a
building
on
fire,
or
something
like
that.
B
B
I
have
no
issue
with
the
initial
use
of
the
gas,
it's
that
it
kind
of
spread
out
and
they
kept
going
and
adding
more
and
more,
which
was
was
troublesome,
and
I
think
that
initial
shot
might
have
been
what
what
was
what
was
needed
and
then
stay
in
your
ground,
stop
and
don't
spread
out
that
that
was
part
of
what
I
I
thought
was
the
problem
that
was
pearl
street.
That
was
riot.
That
was
crazy
headquarters.
B
I
I
also
don't
have
an
issue
with
the
initial
use
of
the
gas,
because
remember
our
in
that
situation,
some
of
the
members
were
up
there.
The
way
the
police
department
was
staging
behind
the
barricade.
There
was
a
lot
of
folks
out
there
on
the
ground,
but
then,
once
the
commercial
grade
fireworks,
let's
not
just
call
them
fireworks.
If
one
of
those
those
are
fireworks
that
were
meant
to
explode,
you
know
300
500
feet
up
in
the
air
that
you
hear
and
they're
thundering.
B
B
That's
what
I
offered
in
in
the
conversation
earlier
with
mr
o'shea
and
that's
what
I
think
would
would
be
helpful
in
this
instance,
and
the
thing
is
right:
it's
been
32
years,
it
hasn't
been
used
to
think
about
albany's,
a
capital
city.
We
have
not
riots,
but
we
certainly
have
demonstrations
here
pretty
regularly
and
the
police
department
handles
it
without
an
issue.
B
Obviously
there
was
something
different
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
chalk
it
up
to
it
being
folks
of
color
versus
white
people
and
maybe
there
that
was
the
case
to
a
degree,
but
it
was
crazy.
I
I
would
suggest
and
ask
that
every
council
member
look
at
watch
the
meeting.
If
you
don't
watch
anything
else,
listen
to
what
sergeant
alex
hansen
said.
B
Listen
to
her
comments,
it's
important
that
you
get
her
her
impression.
She
she
feared
for
her
life
and
just
one
more
thing
and
now
be
quiet
is
the
presentation
I
I
didn't
have
a
problem
with
the
facts
in
the
presentation
it
just
went
on
too
long,
but
also
I
I
was
expecting
more
and
not.
I
don't
want
to
say
by
way
of
maya
culpa
or
whatever,
but
we're
trying
to
mend
the
relationship
with
the
community,
so
there
should
have
been
some
of
that
in
there,
but
also
for
me.
B
What
would
have
really
been
helpful?
Is
I
kind
of
have
an
impression,
and
can
I
imagine
what
things
were,
but
how
about
some
body
camera
footage
as
a
part
of
that
presentation?
What
what
better
way
to
show
people
what
our
officers
were
up
against
than
to
have
footage
from
one
of
their
cameras,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
you
would
have
been
shocked
and
said:
oh,
oh
wow
and
maybe
even
moved
by
it
and
have
a
better
understanding
of
where,
where
what
they
were
dealing
with.
So
please
view
sergeant,
alex
hansen's
comments.
P
G
Mike
well,
you
can't
see
it.
Oh,
you
can
see
it
a
little
bit.
Just
google,
my
use
of
tear
gas,
just
google,
it
you'll,
see
1925
you,
the
geneva
protocol,
1925
predicted
the
use
of
gas,
the
tear
gas
1993,
there's
even
more
on
it.
There
was
more
countries
involved,
so
you
know
I
don't
know
when
you
took
your
jag
training,
but
things
have
changed.
G
G
Let's
talk
about
waco
texas
76
people
died
because
they
threw
in
tear
gas.
It
started
the
buildings
on
fire.
76
people
died
because
they
didn't
want
to
come
out
and
face
the
guns.
They
were
afraid,
they're
going
to
be
killed.
There
was
a
lunatic
running
it.
I
mean
don't
get
me
wrong,
but
when
we
start
talking
about-
and
I
again
it
really
bugs
me
when
I
hear
somebody
say
it's
a
tool-
it's
not
a
tool,
it's
a
guillotine,
a
tool
or
is
it
an
execution
weapon?
G
I
mean
that's
what
we're
talking
about
this,
this
dangerous
stuff
that
that
we're
allowing
now
and
just
to
answer
kelly-
I
mean
they
were.
Definitely
you
know,
I
wasn't
there
the
first
night,
but
you
know
nobody
seems
to
be
addressing.
Do
we
have
enough
police
on
the
force
right
now
to
handle
situations
like
this?
G
Okay,
maybe
that's
the
big
difference
from
like
when
we
had
occupy
albany
and
today
we
had
different
chiefs.
We
had
different
administrations,
you
know
to
me
the
police
are
the
most
important
things
and
we
started.
We
really
need
to
look
at
them
as
public
safety,
not
law
enforcement,
it's
public
safety
to
keep
the
public
safe
and
that's
something
we
seem
to
be
getting
away
with.
You
know
getting
away
from
them.
I
should
say
that
you
know
they're
there
and
you
know.
G
Safety
is
a
is
a
big
issue
with
most
people
and
most
of
our
our
citizens
and
residents
of
the
city.
They
want
to
feel
safe
and
you
know
how
do
you
keep
people
safe?
You
know
you
could
say
yeah
we'll
do
this
tool,
we'll
throw
everybody
in
jail.
You
know,
you
know
every
every
person.
You
know
that
doesn't
go
with
the
guidelines,
let's
just
throw
them
in
jail
and
what
happens
they
we
throw
them
in
jail
and
then
they
learn
to
be
even
better
at
cree.
You
know
committing
crimes.
G
G
G
I
was
doing
everything
I
could,
even
though
I'm
not
a
social
worker,
anything
trying
to
calm
people
down-
and
you
know
having
this
weapon
being
used
on
our
citizens
is
just
you
know,
we're
we're
throwing
gasoline
on
the
flames.
We
really
need
to
reach
out
to
our
community
and
we
are
doing
it.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
I
mean
there's
tremendous
amount
of
work.
I
know
kelly
with
with
the
committees
that
you're
on
the
anti
the
violence
task
force
and
you
know,
reimagining
the
police.
G
It's
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
I
I
think
we're
going
the
right
direction
and
what
I
said
before
too.
What
if
we
do
ban
it,
and
it
turns
out
that
this
was
the
stupidest
mistake
this
council
ever
made.
How
hard
is
it
to
put
it
back
in?
It's
not
like
it's
it'll
take
forever.
We
meet
every
two
weeks,
so
if
it
turns
out
that
this
was
a
bad
decision,
we
can
always
put
it
back,
but
I
would
rather
err
on
the
side
of
let's
protect
our
citizens.
G
You
know
those
windows
were
open.
There
were
protocols,
they
were
supposed
to
use.
The
chief
even
said
it
during
the
meeting
he's
the
only
one
who
can
authorize
the
release
of
that
gas.
If
I
remember
correctly,
I
can
go
back
and
look
at
the
tape,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
he
said
that,
but
the
gas
was
or
his
designee
the
gas
was
let
loose.
I
wasn't
there
the
first
night.
I
can't
judge
on
that,
but
the
second
night
there
was
no
warning.
The
gas
was
let
loose
and
yeah.
G
I
walked
down
the
block
and
later
when
I
was
able
to
breathe
and
see
again,
I
saw
people
throwing
the
fireworks
and
it's
just
like
this
is
we
should
have
caught
the
persons
in
the
act
but
I'll
shut
up
now,
but
you
know
this
is
this
is
probably
the
most
important
decision
we're
going
to
make
it
as
this
council
as
we
come
to
an
end
in
november,
I
mean
well
in
january.
This
is
going
to
be
the
most
important
thing
and
you
know
you
got
to
respect
what
what
what
our
citizens
and
residents
want.
G
B
F
On
that,
what
are
you
gonna
do
when
you
need
it?
Okay
need
something,
wait,
two
weeks
what
happens,
meanwhile,
what
would
have
happened?
I
would
have
liked
to
know
if
that
wasn't
that
tear
gas
wasn't
used
that
night
when
things
was
really
going
on,
I
mean
you
know.
They
say
that
the
tear
gas
is
to
de-escalate
people,
keep
them
keeping
a
safety
zone
between
them.
I
can
understand
that
they
were
trying
to
de-escalate
now.
What
if
they
didn't
do
that
and
everyone
just
came
together.
F
Another
thing
I've
been
thinking
about
you
know
riots
sometimes
or
be
too
different
between
two
different
groups
and
the
cops
get
stuck
in
the
middle
of
it.
What
do
they
do,
then?
Just
everybody
let
it
go,
and
you
know
then
my
concern
is
too.
If
the
riots
get
so
big
in
our
police
department,
three
shifts.
Isn't
enough,
do
you
get
mutual
aid?
Would
they
want
to
come
in
officers
from
other
municipalities?
F
Would
they
want
to
come
in
well
dirt
chiefs
say
we
are
I'm
not
bringing
my
guys
in
there?
We
can't
you
know
we
don't
have
the
power
to
do
it.
Where
is
that
leaving
right?
It's
get
worse,
just
little
things
that
you
gotta,
I
think
about,
I
think
about
it.
After
meeting
the
other
night-
and
I
don't
know,
I
say,
keep
it
as
a
tool
and
be
very
strict
with
who
can
who
can
order?
F
It
done
just
think,
though,
just
think
what
might
have
happened,
I
mean
those
guys
were
getting
hit
with
cop
went
down
and
he
was
a
horse
officer
if
they
weren't
on
horses
that
night
and
I
don't
think
it's
even
be
safe,
bringing
in
horses
maybe
for
crowd
control
with
you
know,
protesters
outside
the
capitol
or
something
but-
and
I
think
you
need
some-
you
need
some
alternatives
and
take
time
and
study
it.
Just
don't
just
don't
abandon
it
right
now
and
that's
what
the
collaborative
was
saying
take
time
can't
do
everything
right
now.
F
B
Okay
and
I'll
say
we're
in
a
moment
in
history
where
this
this
it
may
quite
conceivably
have
a
summer
like
last
summer,
if
we
don't
don't
work
together
on
this,
mr
say
you
look
like
you
wanted
to
speak
before.
Did
you
want
to
say
something
and
then
we'll
jenny?
If
you
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
about
our
stuff
from
leadership.
J
K
I
was
down
there
before
you
know.
When
the
tear
gas
came
out,
that's
when
things
got
agitated.
You
know
like
what
what
happened
was.
It
was
words.
You
know
people
were
yelling
and
they
were
upset
and
they
were
screaming.
You
know,
but
when
the
terror
guys
came
down,
you
know
things
got
heightened.
So
once
again
you
know
we're
we're
talking
about.
K
You
know
the
once
the
tear
gas
was
used
once
it
was
administered
it.
You
know
the
the
whole
it
got
chaotic
it
got
more
chaotic,
it
didn't
calm
it
down.
So
you
know
anything
that
happened
after
that.
You
know,
you
know
one
could
say
what,
if
they
didn't
use,
tear
gas.
What
what
you
know
what
they
had
to
start,
throwing
on
things
like
that,
like
I
don't
want
to
get
in
that
conversation,
because
you
know
that's
a
hard
conversation
to
have,
but
you
know.
K
You
know,
I
think
about
you
know
like
I'm,
not
gonna
go
into
a
graphic
story,
you
know,
but
that
happened
on
the
street
that
I
live
it.
Let
me
just
say
that,
and
not
only
did
it
happen
after
that,
then
it
was
barricades
up.
I
couldn't
get
to
my
you
know
the
natural
flow
to
go
home.
I
couldn't
I
couldn't
go
home
in
my
natural
route
for
three
weeks
later
and
you
know
we're
we're
using
once
again.
You
know
we're
saying
you
know.
K
We
hope
that
something
doesn't
happen,
but
you
know
we're
ignoring
what
has
what
has
happened
and
who
is
who
it
consistently
and
continuously
happens
to
and
now
we're
saying
hold
up
well
what?
If,
what?
If
somebody
storms
the
capital,
you
know
what,
if
somebody
stormed
city
hall,
then
what
are
we
gonna
do
and
I'll
just
say
this
right.
K
I
bet
you.
If
we
ask
sheriff
apple
questions,
he
can
give
us
clear,
cut
answers
of
how
he's
gonna
do
something.
What's
the
procedures,
and
you
know
because
that
you
know
like
that,
didn't
happen.
It
left.
Even
you
know
it
added
a
more
foul
taste
to
you,
know
this
conversation
and
we're
still
having
it
and
we're.
You
know
it's
saying
you
know
we're
wrong.
You
know
we're
wrong
for
responding
to
the
people,
because
once
again,
this
is
not
something
that
you
know.
K
K
Why
are
we
you
know
acting
like
we
didn't
hear
and
acting
like
we
don't
know,
and
I
you
know
it's,
it's
a
tough
situation
right,
but
you
know
the
one
thing
that
we
can
do
is
not
listen
to
the
people
and
then
wonder
why
they
not
there
when
we
need
them.
What
wonder?
Why
are
they
not
participating
in
these
processes?
K
K
K
So
I
you
know,
I
I
feel
strongly
against
this,
and
you
know
I
know
I
spoke
earlier
and
it
just
seems,
like
you
know,
we're
being
pressured
because
it's
like
we're
taking
a
tool
away
from
the
police.
Nobody
wants
to
tie
the
police
hands,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we're
doing
we
end
up
paying
for
you
know,
without
sometimes
without
the
community
knowing
about
it.
F
Derek
you
you
just
mentioned
something
about
well
ask
craig
apple
whatever.
Let
me
thinking
okay,
I
think
maybe
there
has
to
be
some
sort
of
get
together
with
public
safety
and
see
what
other
municipalities
do
see.
What
consensus
is
there
might
be
better
ideas
than
just
dropping
this
right
away.
That's
why
I'm
saying
let's
sit
back
for
a
little
and
look
into
this
a
little
deeper.
What
alternatives
might
be?
There
has
to
be
better
alternatives,
but
until
we
get
them
you
know,
that's
my
only
suggestion.
So
thank
you.
J
P
L
Is
going
to
be
a
short
presentation
from
the
budget
department
to
kind
of
talk
about
where
we
are
like
what
we
know
about
the
the
funding
from
the
federal
government,
and
that
is
and
I'm
going
to
do
like
a
quick
synopsis
of
it.
But
since
we're
already
losing
a
lot
of
people,
I
would
just
recommend
they
did
a
great
powerpoint
and
they're
going
to
be
doing
that
it
has
a
lot
of
facts
with
it.
So
if
you
can't
join
in
tomorrow,
then
please
watch
it.
L
I'm
also
going
to
be
sending
out
the
powerpoint
presentation,
so
you
can
go
through
there
and
then
you
can
come
with
questions
so
it'll
be
an
another,
exciting
finance
committee
meeting
with
not
just
things
to
vote
on,
but
again
presentations,
so
just
to
quickly
go
through
it.
There
is
albany
will
be
receiving
85
million
282
416,
it's
going
to
be
paying
two
installments.
L
New
york
state
got
12.6
billion
within
albany
other
things
impacting
us.
The
school
district
got,
46.6
million,
cdta
got
51.7
million,
and
albany
county
got
59
million
the
funding
a
lot
of
the
funding.
It
can
be
spent
on
four
main
pieces
and
it
has
to
it's
it's
a
five
year.
It
has
to
be
spent
by
2024,
but
it's
also
for
that
those
five
years.
So
an
important
thing
for
us
to
keep
in
mind
is
this
is
not
just
you
know,.
K
L
Million
dollars
that
we
need
to
spend
right
now,
but
it
is
something
that's
supposed
to
support
us
over
the
next
five
years.
A
big
piece
that
it's
supposed
to
do
is
to
bring
back
revenue
loss
so
within
the
city
of
albany
over
the
next
five
years.
Their
projected
revenue
loss
is
just
over
58
million
dollars.
L
It
can
also
be
used
in
response
to
the
public
health,
emergency
or
negative
economic
impacts.
So
that
is
a
kind
of
a
broad
based
one
and
there
still
is
not
yet
any
guidance
from
the
federal
government
on
exactly
what
that
means.
So
there's
a
lot
of
questions
that
people
have
been
asking
that
we
just
don't
yet
have
the
answers
to
until
we
get
that
guidance
from
the
federal
government
and
that
so
the
external
task
force
that
mike
whalen
and.
L
L
You
know
you'll
have
like
richard
has
lark
street.
So
how
has
that
been
impacted
by
covet?
I
think
different
members
will
have
pieces
to
kind
of
bring
in
and
really
discuss
so
that
will
be
coming
tomorrow
night
and
I'm
going
to
be
basically
every
time
I'm
going
to
try
to
do
an
update
with
every
caucus
that
I
have
been
doing
as
I
get
information
I'll
continue
to
share
it.
L
As
a
council,
we
should
very
much
be
a
part
of
and
make
sure
our
voice
is
heard,
along
with
understanding
that
we
also
want
to
plug
these
budget
gaps
for
the
city,
so
it'll
be
great
to
be
able
to
have
that
understanding.
I
know
that
I've
had
a
lot
of
outreach
from
constituents.
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
too
so
to
be
able
to
explain
those
the
budget
needs.
I
think
it'll
be
really
helpful
for
all
of
us
kelly
did
you
want
me
to
bring
up
the
mayor's
letter?
I
have
that
in
my
notes
too.
L
Actually
before
I
move
into
that
we
this
was
touched
on,
but
we
are
very
short
staffed
in
apd.
They
are
40
officers
down
and
23
are
inactive
for
various
reasons.
You
know
military
leave
illness,
so
they're
very
short-staffed.
If
you
go
to
the
albany
police
department
page,
please
share
it
out,
because
our
staffing
in
apd
directly
impacts
how
we
can
handle
things.
So
as
we
move
forward
with
the
other
discussions,
we
really
each
of
us
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
get
police
officers.
L
L
So
I
believe
that
is
also
on
the
dgs.
Please
page,
please
anything
you
can
do
to
get
you
know
if
you
hear
somebody
share
it
anything
we
can
do
to
get
that
staffing
there,
because
we
all
want
these
things.
But
if
we
don't
have
the
staff
in
place
it
that's
one
of
the
biggest
issues
so
making
sure
that
we
can
actually
hire
the
people
to
do
the
work
is
so
important.
L
L
K
L
L
L
L
We
agree
that
it's
not
ideal
the
council,
the
members
that
voted
for
it,
a
lot
of
them
myself
included,
talked
about
understanding
that
this
is
the
beginning
of
the
process,
and
that
is
a
very
important
piece
that
even
though
a
ton
of
work
was
put
into
it,
we
have
a
lot
of
work
that
is
left
to
do
so.
We
I
mean
I
stand
by
what
we
said
with
that.
L
I
think
that
a
lot
of
us
would
have
been
happy
for
it
to
go
further,
but
also
understood
that
we
had
an
executive
order
that
we
had
to
work
within
and
wanted
to
move
forward
and
understood.
It
was
a
process
with
that
said.
The
mayor
has
the
power
to
veto
it
and
that's
her
choice,
if
they're
unhappy
with
it.
G
B
F
F
G
Yeah,
just
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
city
and
I
I
was
just
curious.
Do
you
guys
know
like
who's
in
charge?
Who's,
the
the
the
chief
planning
officer
and
the
changes
in
corporation
council
are
some
assignments
being
reassigned.
I
know
they're
down,
I
think
two
attorneys.
So
do
we
have
any
updates
on
that
like
who
you
know.
B
B
Right,
that's
yeah!
That's
that's!
I
should
have
said
standing
in
but
brad's
taking
care
of
that
now.
They're,
I'm
sure
down
the
line.
The
mayor
is
going
to
reappoint
someone,
but
that's
that's
where
we're
at
right.
Now
with
that,
and
then
you
mentioned
the
corporation
council,
I
know
they're
down
attorneys
maurice
is
still
the
corporation
council.
Okay,.
G
A
They're
still
there,
everybody
in
corporation
council's
offices
they're
splitting
the
work
amongst
all
the
remaining
attorneys
right
now
they
haven't
they're.
I
believe
they're
going
to
get
ready
to
start
hiring
for
a
new
planning,
attorney
and
and
another
assistant
corporation
council
for
general.
So
I'll
update
you
guys
I'll
follow
up.
They
they're
they're
they're
spread
thin,
though
I
will
tell
you
that
okay.
G
G
G
G
F
L
D
We
have
about
25
to
27
applicants,
because
it's
not
a
civil
service
position.
We
have
to
manually
go
through
them
to
make
sure
that
they
meet
the
minimum
qualifications,
as
stated
in
the
job
posting,
so
we're
still
in
the
process
of
going
through
reviewing
the
applicants
and
seeing
if
they
have
the
qualifications
that
would
make
them
an
excellent
replacement
for
michelle.