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Committee reviewed Ordinance 23.101.19; 24.101.19, 26.101.19, 28.101.19, 29.101.19 and 48.122.19 (MC).
A
I'm
calling
the
Finance
Committee
meeting
committee
members
present
our
councilmember
Fowler
and
O'brien
Robinson
also
joining
us,
our
councilmember
and
committee
member
package.
A
council
member
is
Fahey
and
love.
We
also
have
our
wonderful
senior
legislative
analyst,
I,
think
I'm,
making
up
a
new
title
for
Michelle,
but
she's
here,
Michelle
Andre
we
have
John
revealed
Pichardo,
we
have
an
idol,
he
is
wonderful
and
then
the
most
wonderful
council
members
that
I
didn't
mention
where
our
Richard
Conte
and
Kelly
Kimbrough
in
the
audience
we
have.
This
is
a
lot
of
work.
A
B
B
A
C
A
What
we're
in
I
should,
of
course,
add
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
thrilled
that
Judy
stayed
on
the
committee
is.
There
is
no
possible
way,
no
matter
how
much
I
have
read
these
bonding
ordinances,
that
I
know
in
some
of
those
fellows
her
so
Judy
any
moment.
You
are
welcome
to
jump
in
and
add
your
two
cents.
So
what
I'd
love
to
do
is
open
it
up
for
questions.
If
people
have
any
questions
about
that.
D
D
E
A
A
1.01,
seven
million
is
for
the
the
Durango's
I
have
talked
with
mr.
wheeler
about
the
long-term
goal
of
moving
and
and
I
should
say.
Hopefully
it
will
be
a
shorter
long
term
goal
of
moving
that
into
the
operational
side.
The
way
that
the
fire
department
is
moving
in
that
direction,
and
so
that
I
mean
that's.
Ultimately,
they
agree
that
that's
a
common-sense
thing
to
do.
We
shouldn't
be
borrowing
for
things.
That
is
a
yearly
expenses
than
expected
expense,
but
it's
I
would
say
at
this
stage
they
do
need
vehicles
and
I.
A
F
Of
course,
we
all
would
love
to
not
have
to
borrow
for
things
and
just
and
pay
for
them
just
outright,
though
we
are
not
at
this
point
in
that
position
to
do
that.
So
so
really
I
I
do
understand
the
goal
of
wanting
these.
These
you
know
yearly
expenses
to
be
within
the
confines
of
the
budget,
but
until
we
get
those
contracts
settled
until
we
figure
out
how
much
of
this
fund
balance
we're
going
to
need
to
put
it
together
and
start
looking
forward
to
how
we're
going
to
increase
revenues
would
decrease
other
costs.
E
E
So
that
that's
one
party
game
is
justification,
I
think
I
think
when
it
comes
to
the
ad
vehicles
for
the
marked
and
unmarked
pro
cars.
This
is
part
of
an
ongoing
work
spending
that
amount
of
money
work
in
there
such
a
routine
cycling.
It
was
placing
of
that
and
I.
Don't
really
think
that
there's
any
real
debate
about
doing
that,
so
those
of
there
are
those
two
different
issues
when.
E
The
whole
issue
of
move
this
to
the
cash
side
I
see
this
as
the
optimum
gear
to
it.
One.
When
you
look
at
all
that
I
finding.
We
think
that
we
have
both
evidence
made.
We
are
at
the
limits
of
our
definite
policy.
We
get
policy
limits
period,
there's
no
way
around
it
and
also
we're
looking
at
some
very
significant
consequences
with
regard
to
what
we
have
borrowed
and
what
were
protected
apart
when
we
look
out
at
essentially.
E
E
E
Dollars
there,
so
if
you
put
this
in
the
budget,
the
purchases
that
we're
looking
for
now,
if
you
put
it
in
the
budget
for
2021
and
that
is
passive
in
their
requisition-
forms,
ready
to
go
they're,
essentially
not
good,
get
delivery
too
much
after
what
the
cycle
would
be.
If
we
authorizes
funding
am
I
wrong.
Is
that
that's
my
thing
so.
G
E
Since
you're
talking
about
the
2019
authorization
in
paying
for
me,
20:20
I'm,
saying
quite
a
few
2020
but
2021
budget
for
purchases
to
be
made
in
2021
or
the
vehicles,
so
around
st.
every
time
you
put
in
it
would
be
you're
basically
saying
to
us
that
what
we
authorized
to
2019
is
I'm.
You
delivered
to
2020.
So
what
we're
going
to
raise
now
isn't
going
to
be
delivered
to
2021
is
an
excitable,
and
even
if
it's
not
107
X
cycle,
I
think
what
we're
talking
about,
maybe
is
a
like.
E
A
I
I
guess
my
concern
with
that.
Is
that
I'm
not
do?
We
know
I'm,
not
sure
if
those
vehicles
are
needed,
that
I
mean
I
understand
their
thought
process,
which
is
perfectly
logical
and
it
might
be
absolutely
accurate,
but
not
knowing
the
nuances
of
ordering
police
cars
and
when
they
come
in.
Are
we
creating
a
different
lag
time
where
I
mean
I
am
not
comfortable,
taking
a
risk
on
that?
What
like.
A
H
My
time
about
getting
isn't
about
creation
cause.
All
of
it
is
already
operation
course,
because
even
if
we
did
be
Barney,
there
is
an
expense
for
that
year
of
those
bombs
anyways.
So
you
know,
will
we
do
we
need
extra
money
to
get
that?
Yes,
I?
Think
we
do
my
my
concern
is
I.
Don't
want
her
to
be
anybody
time,
I
also
AM,
concerned
that
we
didn't
have
this
discussion
three
months
ago
and
that
it
hasn't
been
put
into
the
budget
for
the
last
three
years.
H
When
we
talked
about
I
know
we
had,
and
you
talked
about
it
doing
it
anyway.
Will
you
just
be
where
we
cut
it
down
every
year,
so
that
if
we
would
have
done
that
and
probably
be
gone
to
a
dearth
of
where
we
are
now
so
I
understand
hundred
percent
with
with
Judy's
trying
to
say
my
concern?
Is
the
leg
time
my
biggest
concern
to
be
honest
with
you
is
right.
Now
we
have
16
offices
graduated
tomorrow,
they'll
walk
into
a
situation
with
a
47.
H
H
You
can't
go
home
and
if
you
took
two
days
off
yeah,
you
know
if
you
say
you
have
the
weekend
off,
and
you
took
two
days
off:
Monday
Tuesday
and
put
the
flight
with
your
wife:
hey
get
away,
you
can
get
mandated,
you
can
go
to
work
indoors,
they
get
Mandy
to
work,
Saturday
and
there's
nothing
you
can
do
about.
You
gonna
find
something
to
cover
your
shift,
or
you
got
to
tell
you
why
I
can't
take
a
plant.
H
That's
DVR
our
offices,
a
deal
meat
that
is
to
be
on
so
when
I
see
this
as
something
as
what
is
the
reality,
the
reality
of
our
saying
we
are
not
going
to
support
purchasing
these
vehicles
because
we
have
been
able
to
figure
out
this
probably
wait
for
the
last
three
years.
Wait
for
coming
any
of
us
Ron.
H
It's
a
trap,
so
that's
why
I
do
think
and
I
am
going
to
support
this
bomb,
but
I'm
also
going
to
really
emphasize
next
year.
Let's
have
I
brought
it
out
conversation
about
having
to
raise
taxes
25%
to
start
getting
this
off
off
the
tackle
all
of
the
bondage
with
a
need
every
month,
pay
ninjas
and
1.3
million
dollars.
I
think
interest
on
my
watch
I
hate.
H
H
E
E
F
E
G
What
they,
what
they
had
sent
was
something
that
Dave
had
forward
to
you
guys
before
our
last
Finance
Committee
meeting
and
it
looks
like
they
identified
the
location
of
them
with
internal
codes.
So
that
was
what
I
said
to
you
guys
was
was
clarifying
where
they're
going
to
right
now,
I
was
talking
on
the
phone
with
Kevin
McDonald,
who
we
can
have,
give
you
much
more
detailed
information
that
these
are
not
new
vehicles.
There
were
their
replacement
vehicles.
G
G
This
is
something
that
Julie
and
I
have
worked
on
last
year
and
it's
something
that
I
think
is
going
forward.
This
committee
and
budget
can
work
together
on
it,
but
I
mean
the
fire.
Trucks
were
separate.
Turnout
gear
was
$180,000
when
we
start
getting
into
the
1.3
million
dollar
range.
The
and
I
I
grew
hundred
percent.
Those
are
big,
big
decisions
that
that
we
have
to
make
very
big
decisions
and
whether
it's
tax
levy,
whether
it's
and.
A
E
I
B
E
B
G
F
J
G
There's
money
encumbered
right
now,
which
I
believe
is
being
being
paid
out
of
invoiced
and
that
those
are
vehicles
that
we
are
receiving.
That
was
only
half
of
the
bond
amount,
the
other
the
other
half
that
was
remaining.
We
haven't,
we
haven't
placed
out
to
bid
yet
because
we're
waiting
until
the
new
light
comes
out.
So
there
there's
no
contract,
that's
been
violated
or
anything
like
that.
A
A
D
A
So
let's
hold
this
one
for
further
info
and
and
we
can
come
back
to
it-
I'd
like
to
just
touch
so
the
next
one.
Twenty
four
point:
one
zero
one
point:
one:
nine
I.
Actually,
that
did
not
go
through
the
appropriate
process
in
term
that
the
city
has
four
buildings
and
I,
don't
I,
just
don't
think
it's
appropriate
that
we
are
I,
don't
have
an
issue
if
a
department
goes
through
that
process
and
it's
denied
and
that
there's
some
way
there
might
be
a
situation
where
that
might
need
to
come
to
the
council.
That's.
A
E
A
E
B
H
H
A
A
A
F
E
F
E
E
H
F
E
A
E
A
It
is
I
will
say,
I
think
as
a
Finance
Committee,
it's
completely
inappropriate
for
a
department
to
come
directly
to
us
without
going
through
the
process
that
City
Hall
has
I'm
not
interested
in
seeing
building
projects
that
haven't
been
vetted
through
engineering.
The
engineering
hasn't
even
heard
of
so
I
I,
just
I.
Think
it's
completely
inappropriate.
A
So
that's
my
that's
why
I
would
like
to
see
that
removed
if
they
have
something
that
they'd
like
to
replace
with
it
fine,
but
this
is
something
that
I
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
them
to
come
to
us
there's
a
whole
process
for
it
follow
the
process
if
they
feel
like
that
process,
wrong
them
in
some
way
and
that
it's
necessary
I
absolutely
want
them
to
come
to
us
and
I
think
that's
entirely
appropriate.
But
this
is
just
this:
it's
not!
This
isn't
the
it
shouldn't
come
to
us.
J
A
H
A
Fine
but
I'm
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
say
to
them,
I
think
it's
completely
inappropriate
for
them
to
jump
this
out,
I
mean
if
they
want
to
come
in
and
have
me
and
say
that
to
them.
I
person,
I'm
happy
to
so
I'd
like
to
actually
move
to
the
engineering
pieces.
Twenty-Eight
point
one
zero
one
point:
one:
nine
is
going
to
be
removed
engineering
so
that
they
no
longer
need
that.
A
A
G
So
so
Randy
on
December
6
it
emailed
the
the
committee
saying
that
again
he's
estimating
one
point:
four
million
dollars
of
payments.
He
said
he
would
like
to
have
a
a
buffer
of
twenty
percent
in
case
bids
are
over,
so
he
was
asking
for
the
the
number
we
have
available.
It
would
be
closer
to
1.7
million.
G
G
B
E
He
wants
an
extra
20%
on
top
and
what
I'm
saying
is
is
one
point
for
Mike.
You
probably
might
take
a
look
at
it.
It's
one
point
for
already
blues,
like
$125,000
for
architectural
services
which
for
grease
traps
I,
don't
know
how
you
have
to
have
a
hunter
in
what
you
know
and
then
another
20%
for
contingency
is
already.
A
E
E
E
F
D
D
H
F
Know
alright,
so
I
will
reach
back
out
or
all
of
us.
Whoever
wants
you
can
reach
back
out
to
Randy
and
say
you're
telling
us.
You
need
1/2
million
for
contingency
on
this
listing,
but
when
we
see
your
listing
already
has
a
contingency
in
there.
Why
is
what's
that?
Was
that
about
I
think
into
that
pretty.
E
H
H
A
G
G
Came
they
came
to
me
with
with
a
five-year
plan
for
purchasing
equipment,
and
this
project
was
discontinued
and
I
took
three
years
off
and
then
I
left
the
fourth
and
fifth
year
on
because
the
three
years
we're
gonna
add
up
to
what
was
remaining
here
and
I.
Took
that
to
you
guys,
the
president
saying
that's
what
we
would
like
to
do
right.
E
Here's
my
one
is
I,
think
it's
appropriate,
given
what
is
happening
with
this
particular
bond
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
reduce
it
and
just
come
back
to
us
next
year
or
what
they
need
excetera.
The
question
is
whether
we
move
at
2020
and
do
we
give
them
some
room
and
not
take
back
the
poll
twenty
million
dollars
so
that
they
depend.
E
G
We
had
made
the
plan,
it
was
at
one
point
three
million
dollars
so
over
the
next
three
years,
what
DJ's
have
came
to
us
with
with
and
their
their
capital
plan
for
all
their
equipment
has
been
given
to
you
guys
on
a
continuous
basis,
Joe
game.
One
house
has
that
is
this
computer
has
the
same
file
that
he
continuously
updates
that
hasn't
changed
and
that
that's
1.3
million
dollars
per
over
the
next
three
years.
G
What
they
were
asking
for
for
2020
was
for
$65,000,
so
realistically
in
all,
they
need
is
for
2020
is
for
265
thousand
dollars,
and
since
it
is,
is
a
band.
What
what
I
had
talked
to
Mike
about
was
by
the
the
best
thing
to
do
after
talking
to
the
council,
was
in
the
first
quarter
of
2020
was
to
purchase
the
equipment,
then
so
that
then
they
would
only
have
to
continue
to
be
banned
or
borrow
for
the
amount
that
was
spent.
G
E
G
J
A
G
B
D
E
G
E
F
E
A
Anyway,
so
otherwise
I
would
definitely
go
down
there
about
Mike,
but
we
I'm
so
far.
Failing
us,
my
in
my
first
plane
that's
committing
meaning
passing
things
there.
So
now
we
move
on
to
twenty
six
point.
One
zero
one
point:
one:
nine,
the
Skyway
there
has
been
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
on
this
and
we
have
councilmember
love
is
here
as
well,
who
represents
the
district
I
know
that
that
was
important
for
several
members
to
hear
from
her
on
this.
J
B
J
A
B
C
K
A
B
D
What
could
I,
what
connected
comment
to
that?
Wouldn't
an
engineer
worth
his
salt
in
accepting
3.3
million
dollars
to
do
an
engineering
study
want
to
know
some
of
those
questions,
because,
certainly
okay,
let's
say
it's
gonna-
take
15
years
to
accomplish
a
new
787.
Are
we
then
bonding
several
millions
of
dollars
for
a
useful
life
of
a
bridge?
This.
E
E
J
K
E
Where
various
options
were
looked
at
and
it
included
this
whole
spaghetti
area
of
ramps
and
highways.
It's
actually
like
12
lanes
going
across
in
this
particular
location,
and
that
study
noted
that
this
particular
ramp,
the
rampid
adjoints,
so
keep
in
mind
that
this
ramp
goes
loops
around,
but
there's
another
ramp.
That
comes
in
also
that
it's
so
it's
connected
structurally
connected
to
this
animal,
so
the
Water
Street
ramp
in
colony
street.
Those
are
all
underutilized
and
were
identified.
C
E
Potentially,
in
completely
removed
because
of
this
essentially
12
lanes
of
cement
and
and
iron,
you
know
metal
that
separates
the
city
from
the
waterfront,
and
this
all
adds
to
that.
So
you
know
when
I
was
reading
that
and
reading
all
over
Albany
or
no,
you
know
I'm
realizing.
Well,
it's
a
it's
going
to
be
some
time.
E
Spending
things
spending
money
on
things
that
should
be
already
completely
eliminated,
to
help
provide
access
and
and
and
my
concern
is
you
reinforce
this
particular
ramp
and
then
you're,
basically
Telegraph
into
people
Telegraph
into
the
designers
ascent.
If
we're
looking,
you
know
at
what
do
we
do
that
this
is
now
a
fixture
and
don't
touch
it,
and
especially
my
concern.
L
Its
entirety-
I,
don't
I,
don't
speak
for
Sunday
member
Fahey.
She
speaks
for
herself,
but
she
was
very
clear.
She
doesn't
see
these
two.
She
hasn't
been
a
key
component
here
in
state
funding
for
this
time
that
she
supports.
So
I
think
you
know
her
actions
speak
for
themselves.
In
her
words,
she
uses
legislation
or
study.
She
was
very
clear.
She
sees
this
as
a
great.
H
H
E
L
L
D
B
C
Say
the
Hudson
Bay
Park,
which
some
people
are
familiar
with
the
term
around
park
at
the
Empire
State
pleasure,
is
state
property
continues
to
be
state
property
that
they
do
nothing
to
maintain.
That
is
least
not
least,
but
it's
there's
an
agreement
admissible
agreement
with
the
state
that
allows
us
to
use
it
for
municipal
purposes.
C
E
E
E
One
of
my
questions
is,
you
know:
is
this
going
to,
depending
on
what
the
design
is?
Is
this
going
to
require?
You
know
special
vehicles,
special
equipment
or
something
I,
don't
know,
but
so
we
don't
have
an
eat-in
begin.
Ose
basic
havoc
planning
talks
about
you.
When
you
are
talking
about
capital
planning,
you
look
at
all
the
cost,
including
the
costs
of
operation.
L
Or
this
body
I
made
a
commitment
if
the
council
was
interested
that
we
could
allow
you
to
have
to
approve
and
mean
it's
an
operation
super
even
prior
to
authorizing
us
to
monitor
this.
That
is
still
an
offer.
If,
as
if
that's
your
concern
for
that,
that
question
has
been
asked
and
answered
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
So.
E
L
D
A
C
H
H
M
You
know
last
year
we
stood
I
struggled
with
this
a
little
bit
last
year
and
I
still
think.
I
was
correct
about
my
ward,
being
one
of
the
poise
awards
in
the
city
of
Albany
and
I
still
say
well,
I
still
say
that,
but,
like
I
said
with
full
of
discussion
with
some
of
the
members
of
City
Hall
here
that
I
think
that
I
was
going
to
give
it
a
go
and
I
mean
I,
know
I'm.
Looking
at
you,
Judy
and
I
know
that
you
know.
J
K
J
M
And
I
promise
to
work
closely
because
I,
if
I
do
this
I
want
to
make
sure
that
my
ward
benefit
from
this
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
people
in
my
ward,
they're
struggling
for
jobs
and
get
jobs
and
and
I'm
willing
to
work
with
this
100%
I,
don't
want
to
be
cut
out
on
anything.
I
think
that
the
buildings
that
they
promise
to
reconstruct
I
think
that
you
know
I'll,
be
there
100%
to
make
sure
that
we
get.
M
You
know
what
I
need
in
the
neighborhood
to
make
it.
You
know
better
to
live
in
I
know.
Like
I
said
you
know,
everybody
got
their
different
parts,
but
I'm
willing
I'm
willing
to
take
a
chance
on
this
and
I'm
willing
to
work
with
it.
So
I
wanted
to
come
out
of
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation,
so
you
know,
would.
L
I
J
A
Mean
I
I
guess
my
I
personally
think
this
is
a
conversation
for
the
whole
council.
So
that's
why
I
would
like
to
see
it
moved
through
the
committee.
It
was
going
to
be
my
recommendation
to
move
it
through
the
committee
with
no
recommendation
and
then
I
I
think
the
conversation
should
be
happening
with
the
council
as
a
whole.