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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Budget Workshop July 14, 2020
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Apopka City Council Budget Workshops at Apopka City Hall at 5:00 PM. To view the meeting agenda visit: http://www.apopka.net/agenda.
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A
All
right
we're
going
to
call
the
july
14th
public
services
department
workshop
to
order
commissioner
smith's
going
to
do
the
prayer
and
the
pledge.
Please.
B
Let's
assume
the
attitude
of
prayer
most
grace
are
almighty,
god,
great
creator,
every
good
and
perfect
gift
and
to
give
all
mankind.
We
come
now
to
say
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
come
before
you
to
partake
of
the
budget.
For
this
afternoon
in
the
city
of
apopka,
we
ask
the
lord
for
your
guidance
for
your
blessings
for
the
presenters
of
god,
as
they
prepare
their
budget
for
this
upcoming
year.
We.
B
B
A
D
D
D
So
a
good
one
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
traffic
road
streets
lights
and
comes
from
houston,
texas,
so
retiring
to
florida
and
wants
to
kind
of
go
down
to
a
little
little
slower
pace.
So
he
has
a
lot
of
expertise
and
we'll
be
he'll,
be
coming
on
board
and
next
month.
So.
D
Anyway,
so
in
the
meantime,
what
we've
done
real,
quick
and
I'll
I've
asked
all
the
managers
we've
been
working
together.
They've
worked
really
hard
on
their
budgets.
They
have
their
wish
list.
We
put
a
powerpoint
together,
and
I've
asked
each
one
of
them
to
do
their
go
over
the
stuff
in
their
division.
D
I
think
it's
good
for
them
to
be
able
to
tell
you
show
you
where,
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road,
you
know
what
their
people
are
doing
and
what
they
want,
what
they
need
for
their
people.
Some
of
these
things,
these
wish
lists
are
long-term,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
you
know
where
we're
headed
into
the
future.
What
do
we
need,
as
we
like?
You
saw
with
police
and
fire
as
we
move
into
the
future.
C
D
Each
one
of
them
have
prepared
their
their
presentations
in
order
to
also
show
social
distancing.
I've
asked
each
one
of
them.
We've
kind
of
got
them
in
an
order
trying
to
let
them
go
as
quickly
as
possible,
as
they
finish,
so
they
don't
have
to
to
stay
around
for
the
whole
presentation
once
they're
done
with
theirs
and
also
to
be
able
to
kind
of
keep
that
that
distance,
but
each
one
of
them
has
their
their
their
portion.
D
So
with
that
being
said-
and
I
gave
you
a
handout
so
that
you
could
see-
I
know
commissioner
becker
doesn't
have
a
screen,
so
you
have
a
handout
if
you
can't
see
it
because
it's
a
little
little
tough
up
there,
yeah
yeah,
so
so
real
quick.
D
I
wanted
to
kind
of
just
give
some
statistics-
and
I
let
me
say
this
too,
as
they
move
through
what
we've
done
is
rather
than
go
through
every
single
line,
because
some
of
the
small
stuff-
it's
just
it's
just
it
doesn't
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
go
through
the
small
stuff
and,
like
you
pointed
out
last
yesterday,
some
of
it's
contractual,
some
of
the
things
are
they're
ongoing.
They
happen,
no
matter
what
I
ask
them
to
kind
of
go
through
their
budgets
and
look
at
the
things
that
actually,
where
were
the
significant
increases
decreases?
D
Where
did
they
look
for
efficiencies?
Have
they
moved
people
around
to
to
to
maybe
cover
some
compliance
issues
and
things
that
we
haven't
been
doing
you'll?
Be
able
to
see
that
so
they're
focusing
on
those
areas?
If,
as
you
move
through
the
presentation,
you
see
something
in
a
light
item
that
you
have
some
some
issue
with
or
whatever
be
more
than
happy
to
to
stop
and
go
through
those
as
we
go,
but
I've
asked
them
to
look
at
it
from
that
level.
So
we
can
spend
time
on
the
things
that
we
can.
D
D
Number
of
households
serve
for
sanitation
is
about
17
000.
tons
of
garbage
collected
39
tons
per
year
street
miles
maintained.
We
have
100
almost
200
miles
of
streets
that
we
are
responsible
for
in
maintaining
traffic
signals.
The
city
is
responsible
for
about
40
traffic
lights,
that
are
our
responsibility,
pipelines
that
are
that
are
made
or
miles
of
pipelines
that
are
maintained.
There's
a
910
miles
of
pipelines,
357
are
water,
approximately
272
are
sewer
119
miles
of
storm
water
and
reclaimed.
D
Water
is
about
162
miles,
just
short
of
1900
fire
hydrants
that
we're
responsible
for
water
and
reclaimed
meters,
almost
33,
000
water
and
reclaimed
meters.
That's
together
wastewater
lift
stations,
145
lift
stations
that
that
have
to
be
maintained
by
maintenance,
the
average
water
average
daily
consumption
of
water,
8.3
million
gallons
a
day.
The
wastewater
treated
each
on
a
daily
average,
3.2
million
gallons
and
the
reclaimed
water.
That's
an
average
daily
consumption
of
reclaimed.
Water
is
about
6.5
million
gallons.
F
We
have
a
1990
dodge
pickup
truck
that
really
needs
to
be
upgraded.
We're
trying
to
get
a
used,
caterpillar
service
truck
to
replace
it.
F
F
A
Any
any
questions
for
charles
they
do
an
amazing
job
down
there.
They
are
they're,
always
looking
at
ways
to
you
know,
keep
the
equipment
running
smooth
and-
and
you
know,
preventative
maintenance
is
really
they're
they're.
You
know
the
key
to
that
that
department,
and
so
his
team
really
does
a
super
job.
Yeah.
H
No,
so
the
the
the
new
service
building,
that's
actually
in
the
budget.
That's
not
a
wish
list
item
right.
F
F
F
G
A
J
Okay,
so
obviously
sanitation
provides
the
garbage
and
recycling
pickup
residentially
and
then
the
garbage
pickup
for
commercial.
We
do
about
39
000
tons
a
year,
that's
about
almost
6
000
tons
more
than
when
I
started
the
first
budget.
I
did
five
years
ago,
we've
kept
the
same
level
of
staffing
and
we
still
have
18
same
as
last
year
and
same
as
I
don't
really
haven't
been
able
to
find
how
long
before
I
got
here.
J
We've
had
that
same
number
of
individuals
and
we
average
it's
just
kind
of
a
rule
of
thumb,
a
ton
per
hour,
and
so
you
can
do
the
math
there.
Let's
see
where,
where
we
are
the
increases
in
the
budget
about
13
and
a
half
overall
in
supplies,
the
professional
services
that
15
000
increase
was
for
is
for
rage,
study
and
looking
at
operations
recycling.
J
J
Currently,
we
kind
of
wash
the
trucks
weekly
ourselves,
but
the
the
style
truck
we're
using
now
has
two
big
cylinders:
hydraulic
cylinders
about
ten
thousand
dollars
worth
of
them.
In
each
truck
and
all
that
material
that
builds
up
in
them
over
the
over
the
week
really
needs
a
good
steam
cleaning,
and
I
think
at
that,
that
rate
and
a
lot
of
the
the
failures
on
those
are
from
dirt
and
grit
accumulating
in
there.
So
I
think
we
would
get
our
return
pretty
easily
on
that
service.
J
Utility
services
120
000
over
last
year
about
90
000
of
that
is
from
the
additional
cost
of
recycling
processing.
We
went
from
49
a
ton
and,
according
to
orange
county,
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
be
somewhere
in
the
80s
a
ton
next
year
after
the
their
current
contract
runs
out
and
they
renew
it.
J
Vehicle
maintenance
55k
up,
that's
basically
just
increasing
operating
hours,
which
means
increase
in
tires
fuel
pm
service,
temp,
labor's
up
70.,
we
kind
of
tried
an
experiment.
You
know
previously
to
drop
back
to
one
temp
per
truck
that
doesn't
really
work
hard
to
keep
help.
They
just
can't
keep
pace
either.
So
we're
going
back
to
the
way
we
were
before.
So
that
brings
that
back
in
line
to
previous
years
operating
supplies.
J
Some
of
that
was
offset,
but
we've
we've
done
a
good
job.
We've
actually
decreased
the
number
of
garbage
cart
replacements
about
800
work
orders
year
over
year
and
a
lot
largely
due
to
upgrading
our
equipment,
new
trucks
they're
not
as
hard
on
the
cans
and
so
good
savings
there.
But
we
we,
we
had
a
spike
in
the
dumpster
usage
and
then
adding
the
25
000
for
the
bear
carts.
J
Again,
just
to
increase
in
the
operating
hours,
capital
outlay,
400
000
over
last
year.
That
basically
includes
the
remaining
370
from
the
truck.
We
put
the
70
000
down
payment
on
last
year
for
a
side,
loader
and
then
one
additional
at
400
000
is
the
estimate
for
it
this
year
and
that
will
replace
the
last
two
07's.
J
Those
are
16
year
old
trucks
with
a
roughly
eight
year,
useful
life
so
they're
way
beyond
and
there's
we
use
them
as
spares
now.
So
we
would,
you
know,
rotate
the
next
oldest
ones
to
spares
and
run
the
new
ones
to
replace
those,
but
the
spares
we
on
a
given
week.
We
run
both
of
them
almost
every
every
week
and
I'm
sure
you
don't
want
to
be
out
in
your
yard.
Talking
to
your
neighbor
when
that
beast
comes
by
you
know
it's
just
not
very
pretty,
and
then
we
we
put
a
20
000.
J
You
know,
do
a
little
paving
upgrades.
That's
I
don't
know
if
you
can
make
out
from
the
picture,
but
that's
our
little
wash
pad
and
it's
just
all.
Busted
up
and
water
can
escape
it.
So
we
need
to
do
some
a
little
bit
of
maintenance
on
that
and
yeah.
So
overall.
J
A
couple
other
items
that
aren't
on
there
tomorrow
night,
I
think
I'll
talk
about
we're
going
to
ask
for
a
rate
increase
on
the
sideways
we're
by
far
some
some
of
the
lowest
rates
residentially
and
commercially
in
the
area
and
I'll
show
you
some
more
details
about
that,
and
so
we're
going
to
do
a
three
percent
on
the
residential
and
a
six
percent
increase
on
the
commercial
rates
and
then
next
the
next
meeting,
then
we'll
also
ask
for
two
additional
people
for
it
and
I'll
try
to
justify
that
that
expense.
J
B
Don't
have
a
question,
but
I
do
have
an
inquiry
from
a
resident
and
wanted
to
know
if
it's
possible
for
the
sanitation
department
to
provide
a
service
to
wash
out
the
containers.
Maybe
once
a
month
or
something.
J
That's
the
service.
We
look
at
there
in
fact,
there's
quite
a
few
you're,
seeing
that
type
of
how
we
could
set
up
to
do
it
ourselves,
and
we
can
also
give
them
the
numbers
of
there's
several
smaller
outfits
here
locally
that
actually
provide
that
they
have
a
truck
that
comes
by
with
a
water
tank
in
it
and
they.
C
J
B
G
Just
curious
on
the
number
of
households
served
with
17
000
in
the
opening
opening
presentation.
Aren't
there
more
homes
than
that
that
we
have
and
if,
if
we're
not
serving
them,
where,
how
are
they
getting
rid
of
their
garbage.
D
D
Yeah
there
were
17
and
you
have
about
33
000
meters,
because
you
have
two
meters.
A
lot
of
homes
have
two
meters
so
but
17
is
residential,
is
roughly
the
residential.
D
C
H
Hey
edward
just
go
back
to
fleet
real,
quick
and
my
confusion.
When
I
asked
a
question
about
the
shop
on
page,
41
or
40,
however,
we
want
to
look
at
it.
It's
on
a
formal
it's
on
the
6300
fund
for
fleet.
H
D
This
is
a
wishlist
item.
Unfortunately
it
did
get
on
that
sheet.
I
know
you're
talking
about
because
that
sheet
was
keyed
in
the
very
beginning,
when
we
put
everything
in
the
sheet
that
you
have
the
packet
that
you
have
tomorrow,
which
is
where
the
millage
rate
will
be
set.
It
excludes
that
piece
so
we're
trying
to
make
that
clear
to
you
tonight
to
show
you
which
pieces
are
in
which
pieces
are
out,
but
your
packet
for
wednesday
will
show
that
it's
it's
been
excluded.
K
K
Then,
under
personnel
you'll
see
some
increase
in
personnel.
What
happened
was
that
edward
allocated
people
to
where
they
were
moved
to
where
they
should
be
so
the
grounds
group
got
smaller
by
four
and
those
four
used
to
be
called
grounds
under
streets
and
now
they're
just
called
streets,
but
those
people.
So
that's
how
we
went
from
four
to
twelve
is
the
people
that
were
from
the
grounds
department
and
there's
the
personnel
listed
there
and
the
increase
and
then
the
supplies
and
others
we
have
contractual
services.
That's
a
mowing
contract.
K
That's
been
started
recently
by
contractor
and
they're
very
responsive.
When
we
get
calls
for
work
that
they
do
the
next
one
is
street
lights,
you'll
see
a
decrease
in
street
lights.
Last
year
we
did
a
downtown
street
light
improvement
program
and
that's
not
in
the
budget
this
year.
So
that's
why
that
is
decreased
and
then
the
street
resurfacing
funds,
and
here
we're
asking
for
an
increase
in
700
000
more
than
we
asked
for
last
year,
which
was
800
000.
K
So
in
this
budget
request
we're
asking
for
1.5
million
dollars
in
and
street
resurfacing
and
we'll
it
makes
sense
to
probably
delay
some
of
that
into
the
year.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
a
pavement
assessment
program.
Well,
actually,
the
pavement
assessment
program
we've
carried
forward.
We
didn't
get
it
done
this
year,
but
we
will
do
it
early
next
year,
so
we'll
be
able
to
prioritize
those
roadways
and
knock
the
ones
out
that
make
the
most
sense
and
then
also
not
in
this
budget.
K
But
something
we
need
to
work
to
add
in
is
a
money
for
speed,
bumps
speed
homes
in
in
this
line
so
go
to
the
next
slide,
supplies
and
other
services.
We've
got.
We
increased
the
budget
for
street
pavement
markings.
K
Some
of
that
will
be
covered
in
the
the
pavement
assessment
will
also
include
some
sort
of
an
analysis
for
the
pavement
markings
that
are
in
need
of
repair
and
then
sidewalk
and
curb
repair.
We
also
up
to
that
budget.
From
last
year
we
do
have
a
large
backlog
of
cracked
sidewalks
and
broken
sidewalks
in
our
work
order
system.
K
Okay,
we're
down
to
the
capital
outlay.
You
see
a
287
thousand
dollar
a
budget
increase,
so
that
includes
a
request
for
a
new
building.
That'll
serve
as
a
warehouse
for
the
streets,
crew
and
it'll
also
serve
as
the
sign
shop,
so
we
could
make
some
of
our
own
traffic
signs
and
then
under
equipment.
We've
got
two
vehicles
that
are
past
their
use
to
life
that
we're
asking
to
be
replaced
and
then
under
miscellaneous
equipment
we've
got
a
stump
grinder.
That
is,
I
don't
know
exactly
how
old
it
is,
but
it's
very
old.
C
K
Amazing,
it
still
runs,
and
then
we
also
have
a
variable
variable
message
board
when
we
need
that
to
alert
drivers
of
activities
out
in
the
field
and
then
down
at
the
bottom
intangibles
you'll
see
asset
management
software
program
on
a
lot
of
different
lines,
we're
dividing
that
up
amongst
us
and
that
will
cover
also
streets,
asset
management
and
then
last
one
pavement
management,
software
that
goes
along
with
the
with
the
pavement
management
program
and
the
software.
K
Okay,
I
roll
to
the
next
slide,
that
is
the
inmate
program
and
again
the
term
right
away
maintenance
program,
that's
primarily
mowing
and
the
personnel
in
that
again.
That
was
another
moving
people
where
it
made
sense.
Two
of
those
crews,
those
inmate
crews,
went
to
the
parks,
department
and
two
stayed
with
streets.
K
K
Down
at
the
bottom
there's
equipment
again,
there's
there's
two
of
our
inmate
vans
that
are
well
passed
through
useful
service
life
that
need
to
be
replaced.
K
Storm
water
management,
the
activities
and
programs
that
will
be
managed
in
this
stormwater
group
is
the
conveyance
conveyance
system,
maintenance
program,
that's
primarily
reactive
work
and
then
the
retention
system,
yeah
the
retention
system,
maintenance
program,
and
now
that
is
stormwater
pond
maintenance,
then
there's
the
npdes
ms4
pollution
prevention
program,
which
includes
the
national
pollution
discharge,
elimination
system
in
pdes,
and
the
municipal
municipal,
separate
storm
sewer
system,
ms4
programs
and
also
that
will
include
the
street
sweeping
component
and
that's
the
activities
and
programs
managed
the
personnel
right
now
in
the
in
the
budget,
there
are
zero
personnel.
K
The
city
is
currently
undergoing
a
stormwater
ut
utility
needs
assessment
and
a
rate
study,
and
when
that
rate
study
says,
we
need
folks
in
in
this
budget
line,
we'll
work
through
that.
At
that
time,.
K
There's
some
other
minor
amounts
there
with
operating
supplies
and
vehicle
maintenance.
Vehicle
maintenance,
of
course,
would
decrease
with
the
vehicles
that
I'm
going
to
ask
for,
or
the
vehicle
that
I'm
going
to
ask
for
in
here.
Someplace
I'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
The
capital
outlay
you'll
see
a
1.74
million
dollar
budget
increase
there.
K
So
in
an
infrastructure,
stormwater
system
improvements,
that's
really
the
the
the
mostly
reactive
thing.
That's
when
stormwater
systems
are
having
problems,
we
need
to
go
in
and
rehab
them
and
then
the
stormwater
pipelining
that's
more
of
a
preventative
maintenance.
So
when
we,
when
we
videotape
an
inside
of
a
pipe
and
it's
beginning
to
fail,
we
can
fix
it
before
it
fails
entirely.
K
The
friend
carlton
center
has
a
stormwater
rerouting
project,
that's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
needs
to
be
done
and
then
also
the
storm
water.
You
need
storm
water
utility
needs
assessment
is
going
to
look
at
the
dream:
lake
nutrient
removal
project
and
the
border
lake
flood
mitigation
projects
both
of
these
projects.
We
are
we've
been
attempting
to
get
grants
for
those
projects
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
towards
that
goal.
K
K
A
flooding
emergency
pump
right
now
we
don't
have
a
spare
pump
well
right
now
we
do
have
a
spare
pump,
we're
pumping
lake
hammer
over
in
sheila
oaks,
because
it's
high
and
needs
to
have
a
storm
water
pump
to
pump
it
down,
and
also,
I
imagine
if
we
continue
to
get
rain,
we'll,
have
a
pump
set
up
there
in
front
of
a
hobby
lobby
at
436
and
piedmont,
makaiva,
probably
the
rest
of
the
summer
to
keep
borderlink
down
and
then
the
last
one,
the
miscellaneous
operating
equipment
that
that
would
that's
a
trailer
that
would
include
that
would
enclose
the
the
new
stormwater
camera
mechanism
that
we
have
earlier
and
then,
like
you'll,
see
several
times
tonight.
D
Mayor
just
I'd
like
to
I
mean
you
can
we
can
ask
a
question,
but
I
want
to
clarify
in
this
area
because
there's
some
some
issues
and
some
concerns
in
here.
So
I
guess
let
me
let
if
you
don't
mind,
okay,
so,
and
I
want
to
thank
richard
because
richard
is
our
stormwater
engineer
and
he
has
now
moved
into
that
role.
D
D
There's,
as
you
know,
we
we
have
a
a
company
under
contract
to
do
a
rate,
they're
doing
an
rates
analysis
right
now
and
then
on
all
of
our
our
future
needs
of
storm
water,
because
that's
an
area
that
we
have
not
that
we've
been
lacking
in
and
so
you'll
see
that
a
lot
of
these
things
are
things
that
are
in
that
that
are
part
of
that
study
and
when
they
finish
that
study-
and
it
comes
back
to
you're,
going
to
see
a
lot
of
these
same
things
in
that
in
that
study
and
how
they
will
come
back
with
a
projection
and
they
will
come
back
with
a
plan
on.
D
How
do
you
fund
this?
How
do
you,
what
will
it
take
to
fund
this?
The
from
the
personnel
all
the
way
down
to
the
infrastructure
improvements
that
you
need
to
make
going
forward
so
that'll
that
from
a
stormwater
side,
I
want
you
to
kind
of
see
where
that's
at
the
street
side
is
where
I
really
want
to
focus,
and
I
want
to
tell
you
that
this
budget
process,
that
will
be
the
toughest
fun
that
we're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
there
are
a
lot
of
needs,
a
lot
of
needs.
D
There
are
a
lot
of
wish
list
items,
there's
a
lot
in
the
in
the
streets
fund
and,
unfortunately,
the
streets
fund
is
funded
by
gas
tax
and
sales
tax.
Those
are
the
two
funding
sources
and
both
of
them
have
been
hit
very,
very
hard.
So,
unfortunately-
and
we
don't
have
those
numbers
yet
they're
telling
us
maybe
next
week,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
little
longer
because
we're
trying
to
determine
what
those
are
going
to
be.
D
So
we
will
once
we
get
those
numbers
we'll
be
actually
be
able
to
see
kind
of
what
kind
of
funding
we're
going
to
have
in
this.
In
this
in
this
fund,
I
will
tell
you
we
have
done
a
lot
of
improvements
this
year,
a
lot
of
sidewalks.
We
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
sidewalks.
D
The
resurfacing
is
getting
ready
to
start
you're,
getting
ready
to
see
those
roads
that
you
approve
the
resurfacing
project's
going
to
start
in
the
next
week
or
so
so
you're
going
to
see
those
roads
get
done
because
we
had
the
funding
this
year
for
those
and
then
our
plan
is
to
once
we
see
what
kind
of
revenues
we're
going
to
have
to
this.
Isn't
the
opportunity
for
us
to
go
ahead
now
and
do
that.
D
Pavement
management
study
so
go
ahead
and
get
that
study
start
that
study
next
year,
so
that
we
have
a
plan
going
forward
with
on
a
resurfacing
plan.
So
we
know
what
we
need
to
pave
each
year.
We
know
what
those
costs
are
going
to
be,
and
so
we'll
have
that
plan
to
follow.
D
So
as
we
once
we
get
those
revenue
projections
in
before
we
get
to
the
september
hearing,
we'll
be
able
to
see
kind
of
where
we
are
roughly
with
this
fund.
Also,
if
you
recall
on
this
fund,
this
is
where
the
street
lights
for
the
subdivisions
are.
We
have.
Mr
vavrek
has
come
back,
he's
already
started
working
on
those
so
going
forward.
The
new
ones
will
now
be
through
assessments,
and
so
that
will
stop
that
will
help
in
this
fund.
It
doesn't
help
the
ones
that
are
in
there.
D
Stop
but
we've
stopped
the
bleeding
because
we
can't
keep.
We
just
can't
stay
at
that
pace.
It's
just.
We
won't
have
the
funding
for
our
resurfacing
on
our
roads.
So
I
think
this
is
very
critical
year
coming
up.
I
think
where
we
we
go
through,
that
study
get
a
study
that
tells
us
what
roads
need
to
be
done
and
we
so
we
have
a
plan
in
place
of
what
we
need
to
do.
We'll
have
a
good
year
of
mowing.
D
This
contractor
has
been
very
responsive,
very,
very
good,
so
I
think
we'll
have
a
plan
for
be
able
to
look
at
that.
Maybe
there's
some
potential
savings
with
mowing.
Maybe
we
can
outsource
a
little
more
of
the
mowing
and
have
some
potential
savings
that
we
can
redirect
somewhere
else,
but
I
will
tell
you:
the
streets
fund
is
the
toughest
fund
and
we're
not
the
only
agency
everybody's
facing
this
with
gas
tax
and
sales
tax.
D
So
it's
an
area
where
we'll
really
be
looking
at
it
when
we
bring
it
to
you
in
september,
but
but
I,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
you
see
the
needs.
It's
important
that
we
see
the
needs
and
it's
important,
that
we
have
a
plan
in
place
going
forward
through
the
recovery
as
we
move
into
the
future
years,
because
we've
never
really
had
that
so.
But
we
have
made
a
lot
of
improvements.
We
still
plan
to
have
money
in
there
to
do
sidewalks
because
we
still
have
our
sidewalk
list.
We
have.
D
We
have
several,
but
we
have
really
we've
really
done
a
lot
in
sidewalks
and
we
hope
to
have
be
able
to
cover
a
lot
of
the
the
of
course,
the
mowing
and
all
of
that
that
we
have.
But
it's
one
of
those
areas
we're
just
going
to
have
to
really
to
look
at
it
very
closely,
and
we
wanted
you
to
have
all
the
information
out
there
so
that
you
can.
You
can
see
what
we're
dealing
with.
G
Yeah,
you
touched
on
some
of
my
key
questions
as
I've
gone
over
this.
Of
course,
the
six
cent
tax
and
you
know
just
how
will
we
make
up
the
difference
if
that
is
a
lack?
What
I
don't
want
to
do,
what
we
can't
do
is
get
behind
the
curve
when
it
comes
to,
I
mean
again,
all
the
departments,
a
lot
of
the
equipment
is
needing
to
get
upgraded.
If
we
push
that
kick
that
can
down
the
road,
it
is
going
to
hurt
us
in
years
to
come.
G
So
whatever
we
need
to
do
as
a
city,
you
know
anything
that
is
fee
based
usage
based.
I
like
looking
at
it
that
direction
the
people
are
actually
using
it
being
the
ones
to
help
fund
it.
You
know
we
want
to
stay
out
of
taxpayers
pockets
as
much
as
we
can,
but
we
have
to
deal
with
the
reality
of
the
whole
thing.
I
I'm
disappointed
to
see
that
we're
backing
off
a
little
on
the
street
lights.
Again
it's
about
150,
5000
or
so
less,
but
it's
still
1.2
and
a
half
million.
G
I
think
that
is
devoted
there,
and
so
I'm
glad
that
we
have
chuck
fabric
joining
us
there
and
keeping
a
real
focus
on
where
we
can
best
put
those
things.
I
know
this
is
something
that
commissioner
becker
has
been
real
concerned
about.
He'll,
probably
talk
on
one
other
question:
the
retention
pond
in
front
of
the
hobby
lobby.
As
you
mentioned,
we
piedmont
wakaiba.
That
seems
to
be
a
consistent
problem.
Was
that
just
not
engineered
back
in
the
day
enough?
Is
there
a
way
to
to
fix
that
in
the
dry
season?
K
Well,
it
was
designed
without
an
outfall
thinking
that
the
water
would
just
be
able
to
discharge
into
the
ground.
One
of
the
issues
that
or
one
of
the
the
opportunities
that
I'm
working
with
orange
county
on
is
potentially
reconstructing
a
drain.
Well
right
near
that
intersection
that
would
drain
lake
rudin
and
help
border
lake
stay
under
control.
K
A
A
You
know,
but
so
it's
a,
but
you
know
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
is
if,
if
by
having
a
drainage
well,
we
could
also
help
supplement
the
water
going
to
wicava
springs
and
to
to
rock
rockspring.
So
it's
there's
some
additional
benefits
and
we've
been
trying
to
get
some
funding
from
the
state
and
and
st
john's
and
dep,
and
also
d.o.t,
because
part
of
the
problem
is
the
436..
A
A
He
had
his
own
little
little
space
up
here
in
community
development
and
we
asked
him
to
take
on
a
bigger
role
here
at
the
city
and
he
stepped
right
up
and
and
took
the
bull
by
the
horns,
and
we
appreciate
you
know,
jumping
in
there
and
taking
on
streets-
and
you
know
storm
water,
and
so
he's
done.
It
he's
done
a
great
job.
B
D
Commissioner,
they
are
currently
under
contracts.
We
have
contracts
with
them
written
agreements
with
them
that
they've
signed,
so
we
would
have
to
go
back.
We'd
have
to
go
back
and
meet
with
each
one
of
them
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
work
through
that
process
to
to
change
that,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
first
is
to
stop
the
bleeding.
Let's
get
the
new
ones
that
aren't
here,
because
those
citizens
have
not
moved
in
yet
still
the
developer
stage.
D
So,
let's
start
from
that
point
forward
the
assessments,
let's
get
that
under
control,
and
then
we
want
to
come
back
and
we're
going
to
have
to.
We
would
have
to
revisit
every
one
of
those
agreements
and
contracts
that
they
currently
have.
So
we
that
that
would
be
a
that's
going
to
be
a
bigger
process,
but
but
if
we
can
stop
this
part
first,
then
we
can
go
back
and
and
address
that
issue
as
well.
D
D
Here,
no,
commissioner,
let
me
kind
of
clarify
that
a
little
bit
so
what
you'll
see
across
a
lot
of
the
budgets
this
year
is
there's
funding
for
an
asset
management
system.
You
see
50
000,
usually
in
the
budgets.
That
program
will
be
used
by
all
the
departments.
We're
trying
we're
looking
for
one
we're
trying
to
find
one
asset
management
system
that
works
the
whole
city,
that's
our
goal
and,
like
mayor
was
talking
about
yesterday.
D
We
have
all
these
different
softwares
and
we've
had
a
meeting.
We've
had
one
meeting
we're
going
to
have
other
meetings,
we're
going
to
have
we're
going
to
put
a
committee
or
group,
together
of
all
the
departments
that
are
so
they're
all
represented,
so
that
we
can
come
up
with
a
good
software
package
management
package
that
will
benefit
all
of
us
that
everybody
can
use
that
that
everybody's
been
involved
in
from
up
up
front
so
that
it
serves
their
purpose.
D
D
So
if
we
decide
to
leave
some
of
those
programs,
we'll
have
some
savings
there
that
maybe
we
can
apply
to
whatever
the
new
package
is,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
funding
in
and
in
in
there,
so
that
when
we
do
that
project
that
that
we
have
that
everybody's
paying
their
fair
share
for
the
software.
B
D
H
A
K
K
H
G
H
Kind
of
core
things
that
I'm
looking
at
in
terms
of
what
we've
just
discussed
is
obviously
beautification.
If
we
can't
do
anything
else,
our
cities
should
look
beautiful
right
street
signs,
some
other
things
street
quality.
Obviously
what
we're
talking
about
with
repaving
so
from
a
right
of
way,
and
I'm
I
may
be
reading
into
the
comments
that
you
made
and
edward
said,
the
same
comment
so
talk
me
through
the
responsiveness
of
our
right-of-way
vendor,
you
said
they're
responsive
to
calls,
but
if
they're
doing
the
job
properly,
I
wouldn't
expect
that
we're
fielding
calls.
K
No
right
now
they're
on
their
their
second
cycle.
I
got
a
call
actually
this
morning
that
I
had
to
let
go
voicemail
that
they've
they've
stopped
the
first
cycle
and
they've
started
the
second
cycle,
and
actually
it's
it's
the
city,
crews.
That
also
do
mowing
that
say:
hey
didn't.
They
know
the
right-of-way
extended
further
in
this
area
or
that
area.
So
I
don't
think
we've
gotten.
K
We
did
have
one
citizen
complaint
on
leicester
road,
where
they
there's
a
pond
on
both
sides
of
the
road
and
they
didn't
go
a
little
further
enough
on
each
side.
So,
during
this
next
cycle,
they're
going
to
address
that
that's
the
only
concerned
citizens
we've
got
the
rest
of
them
just
come
from
our
staff.
Yeah.
H
E
D
No,
it's
probably,
I
will
tell
you
it's
not
enough
money
for
that,
but,
like
I
said
what,
once
we
get
the
revenue
numbers
for
this
year,
we'll
be
able
to
see
where
we're
at
because
I
know
speed.
Humps
is
another
item,
that's
not
here,
but
once
we
get
those
numbers,
we
want
to
try
to
work
that
in
as
well.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
we
may
have
to.
D
H
And
I'm
by
no
means
an
agriculture
expert
by
any
means,
but
you
know
people
will
send
me
stuff
about
putting
ornamental
peanut
in
versus
grass
to
make
it
stay
low
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
and
you
know
blooms
and
things
like
that.
So
also
too,
the
street
sign
replacement
that
that
fund
is
going
down
as
well,
where
I,
I
firmly
believe
it
should
say,
flatter
increase.
C
H
Invisible
at
this
point
I
went
to
a
funeral
at
the
city
cemetery
this
past
weekend,
even
down
by
caitlin
nelson
park,
some
of
the
roadways
there
I
mean
you
can't
even
read
the
signs,
so
I
think
we
should
invest
some
dollars
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
those
up
to
date,
the
the
repaving
that
we've
budgeted
the
1.5
million.
How
much
of
that
is
carry
over
from
this
year's
budget
into
next
year?
There.
D
D
So
when
we
look
at
the
new
budget
this
year,
we'll
be
looking
at
new
dollars
com,
the
dollars
that
are
coming
in
and
we'll
have
to
to
apply
those
dollars
to
those
to
those
funds,
and,
like
I
said
I
wish
I
wish,
I
had
a
little
more
better
information
by
the
end
of
the
month,
probably
the
middle
of
august,
we'll
know
exactly
what
those
revenues
are
going
to
be
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
kind
of
prioritize
where,
where
you
want
to
put
these,
you
know
put
more
towards
speed,
humps
but
more
towards
those
items.
D
Keep
the
street
signs
flat.
We
can.
We
can
go
through
those
and
make
sure
that
those
are
the
prior.
If
those
are
the
wishes,
the
priors
of
the
council
we'll
make
sure
those
items
are
funded.
We
may
have
to
take
away
a
little
bit
from
resurfacing,
but
I
think
that's:
okay,
because
we've
hit
those
roads
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
and
that'll
also
give
us
time
to
do
our
payment
study.
We
got
to
get
the
payment
study
done.
D
H
D
You
don't
need
something
on
paper
to
validate
and
let
me
say
real
quick
I've
been
wanting
to
say
this.
I'm
thinking
about
this
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
resurfacing
has
been
a
little
delayed
is
we
had
some
issues
on
vic
road.
If
any
of
you
drive
vic
road,
you
will
notice
that
there's
a
couple
places
where
the
road
has
like
where
the
the
storm
water
goes.
Underneath
the
road,
the
piping
under
the
road
you've
got
these
dips
and
that's
where
we've
got
some
holes.
Well,
here's
the
problem.
D
We
we're
ready
to
go
on
resurfacing,
but
we
got
to
when
we
got
richard
down
there
and
we
started
talking
to
richard.
It
was
the
lining
that
you
saw
the
storm
water
lining.
We
had
there's
there's
problems,
those
two,
those
two
pipes
under
there
starting
to
to
where
have
wear
and
they're
starting
to
collapse.
D
So
we
kind
of
we
we're
going
to
do
all
the
other
roads
while
we,
so
we
can
repair
those
two
drainage
issues
and
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
able
to
find.
We
have
a
current
contractor
that
can
do
the
lining
so
he's
going
to
go
in
and
fix
that
lining,
so
that
we
can
fix
that
underneath
there
before
we
resurface.
So
that's
why
there's
been
a
little
delay
on
on
that,
because
vic
road
had
some
other
some
other
issues.
Where
are
you
talking
about
like
by.
H
C
D
That
is
that
we
had
a
problem
with
that
storm
water
drain
there
and
then
one
up
further
from
that.
If
you
drive
it
and
you're
going
north
on
vic
you'll
hit
that
when
you
make
that
little
turn
down
in
there,
you'll
hit
that
little
little,
that
little
depression,
that's
there
or
whatever,
and
so
we've
been
getting
potholes
there
that
we
had
to
keep
filling.
So
that's
why
we
wanted
it
when
this
is
why
we
had
an
issue
with
that.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
get
that
storm
water
thing
during.
E
E
B
H
And
then
last
question,
and
I
know
we
touched
on
a
little
bit,
but
just
the
border
lake
flood
mitigation
system
talk
me
through
that
again:
what's
the
scope
of
that
work,
is
it
finalized
or
if
is
it
not?
Are
we
do
because
in
the
in
the
in
the
packet
it
talks
about
50
funding
right
is
that
is,
is
that
in
flight
or.
K
Is
that
a
wish
list
item
as
well
that
that's
a
wish
list
item
and
we
just
we
really
the
the
key
thing
is-
is
getting
dep
to
buy
in
on
the
fact
that
they
would
they
may
let
us
redrill
a
drainage
well
and
if
they
don't
there's
some
other
potential
solutions
that
we
haven't
spent
additional
resources
on,
because
the
the
drainage
well
is
right
there
at
that
intersection,
and
that
would
be
the
the
best
long-term,
cheapest
solution
that
that
we
can
come
up
with.
That
would
solve
those
problems.
H
K
That's
one
of
the
other
ideas,
the
both
both
rerouting
to
the
reclaimed
water
facility
and
the
drainage.
Well,
would
both
have
the
impact
of
of
of
recharging,
the
wekiva
springs
and
and
rock
springs
run,
and
so
so
from
a
grant
perspective.
They
both
have
that
benefit,
but
those
that
is
the
second
best
alternative
that
we
have
in
that
area.
K
But
the
drainage,
well
orange
county
feel
strongly
that
it's
worth
the
time
to
try
to
convince
dep
to
do
that
project
because
it
would
be
much
more
cost
effective
than
rerouting
the
water
into
our
reclaimed
system.
A
Like
three
meetings
with
orange
county
seminole,
county
and
d.o.t
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
plan
we
can
all
buy
into
because
we
we're
40
of
the
problem,
but
we're
we're
not
getting
any
any
real
help
from
the
rest
of
the
the
interested
parties,
and
so
it's
like.
So
why
should
we
drop
a
half
million
dollars
when
it's
not
all
of
our
problem?
Because
border
lake
is
half
in
seminole,
half
in
lake
and
you've
got
orange
county,
see
the
neighborhoods
that
are
on
the
the
the
north
side
of
436
that
flooded
out.
A
You
know
during
irma,
that's
orange
county's
problem,
so
it
you
know
it.
It
needs
to
be
a
community
effort
here
to
to
solve
that
problem
and
so
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
what's
the
best
way
to
do
it,
and
we
need
partners
to
help
step
up,
including
st
john's
and
dep,
to
help
us
solve
it.
A
Yes,
because
it's
you
have
to
go,
it
has
to
go
storm
water.
First,
then
you'd
have
to
clean
it
to
reclaim
water
to
put
it
in
the
reclaimed
system,
so
that,
because
that's
one
of
the
things
we
got
another
we'll
just
got
another
thought
that
we're
we're
working
on
that
might
give
us
an
option,
but
but
at
this
point
we're
not
there
yet
but
yeah.
It's
the
problem,
yeah!
We
you
can't
mix,
storm
water
and
reclaim
water.
A
You
have
to
you,
have
to
clean
storm
water
to
the
reclaimed
water
standards
before
you
put
it
into
the
system.
H
C
B
Let
me
ask
when
you
mention
iteration
of
the
drainage
pipes
that
same
problem
we
have
on
hawthorne.
I
noticed
I
guess
last
week
they
filled
it
in
with
some
asphalt,
but
where
that
dip
is,
is
that
the
same
problem
there.
K
Yeah
we
had
fixed
that
previously,
actually
on
hawthorne
on
at
some
point,
someone
tried
to
fix
the
problem
with
putting
concrete
underneath
the
asphalt
on
half
the
road
and
when
we,
when
we
lined
that
pipe,
we
thought
that
would
take
care
of
the
problem.
But
apparently
underneath
the
concrete,
there
was
a
void
that
that
collapsed,
the
other
side
of
the
road
that
doesn't
have
the
concrete
on
it.
So
we
fixed
that
problem
now
and
I
believe
that
project
is
on
the
repaving
list.
So,
yes,.
B
G
K
Got
to
that
ahead
of
that
repaving.
B
K
Yes,
the
the
the
stormwater
utility
program,
evaluation
and
the
rate
study
is
also
going
to
include
recommendations
and
I
had
on
the
list
the
npdes
and
ms4
programs
and
and
that's
actually
a
requirement
of
those
programs,
and
we
we
we.
K
We
don't
yet
have
enough
staff
to
go
out
and
and
go
through
the
process
of
of
code
enforcement
and
enforcement
against
those
folks.
But
if
we
got
two
or
three
additional
folks
involved,
then
we
would
have
staff
that
could
do
that
sort
of
thing
exclusively
or
at
least
much
more
than
we're
doing
it.
Now.
Okay,.
D
All
right
so
facilities
so
on
the
facilities
side.
As
you
know,
we
have
35
buildings
structures,
buildings
that
we
maintain.
We
have
a
maintenance
program
that
you
know.
We
have
work
order
system
and
a
maintenance
program
that
that
we
work
through
that
we
try
to
follow
and
this
in
this
budget
or
this
cost
center.
We
have
two
full-time
employees
that
work
in
our
facilities
that
they
take
care
of
the
facilities,
the
city
facilities,
keep
in
mind.
This
is
just
city
facilities,
their
professional
services
budget.
You
can
see.
A
H
D
Yeah
yeah,
so
it
looked
great
now
in
the
office,
so
professional
services,
you
see
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
an
increase,
there's
20
thousand
dollar
increase
there.
This
is
due
to
we
have
some
air
conditioning
problems
in
some
of
our
buildings,
where
the
balance
is
not
right.
D
There's
some
of
the
buildings
cold
in
some
areas,
it's
hot
in
some
other
areas,
we've
built
some
structures
or
whatever,
and
so
we
put
some
there's
some
funding
in
here
to
kind
of
rebalance
to
make
sure
we
have
the
air
conditioner
right
in
these
in
the
buildings.
As
you
know,
we
have
some
older
buildings
and
they
haven't
ever
been
been.
There
hasn't
been
much
done
to
them
the
utility
services.
You
see
a
big
crease
here,
125
000
last
year's
budget.
We
ex
we
did
not
have
our
utility
bills
included
in
our
budget.
D
We
we've
been
monitoring
the
overall
budget
to
make
sure
that
we
don't.
You
know
that
that
if
we
have
to
come
back
to
you
for
a
budget
amendment,
we
will
but
right
now
we're
holding
our
own
we're
able
to
to
squeak
along.
If
we
get
where
we
can't,
then
we'll
come
back
to
see
you,
but
we
should
be
okay
to
finish
the
year
out,
but
we
didn't
have
that
number
in
there.
D
So
this
year,
you'll
see
that
125
000
that
covers
all
the
utility
bills,
all
the
electric
gas
bills
for
the
public
buildings,
the
repair
and
maintenance.
You
see
a
decrease
there.
We've
done
some
things.
We've
done
a
lot
of
things
in
some
areas
where
we
have
been
able
to
reduce
a
little
bit
here.
It's
a
little
bit
of
savings
here,
kind
of
will
help
with.
Maybe
you
can
use
some
of
these
savings
to
help
with
the
rebalancing
of
the
air
conditioning.
D
I
will
tell
you
too,
that
we're
also
trying
to
hopefully
we
we're
going
to
put
the
chiller
bid
back
out
to
replace
the
chiller
in
this
city
hall.
We've
been,
you
know,
limping
along
with
it,
and
it's
knock
on
would
have
been
good,
but
we're
going
to
try
to
see
if
we
can't
get
the
rebalancing
put
into
that
we
didn't
have.
D
D
So
we've
got
some
some
maintenance
things
that
we're
not
we
weren't
doing
in
some
of
our
buildings,
so
you've
got
some
additional
dollars
in
here
to
be
able
to
do
those
kinds
of
things
in
some
other
buildings.
Some
of
our
buildings
have
security,
some
of
them
don't
we
want
to
be
able
to
and
again
I'm
not
sure
this
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
all
of
this.
But
but
this
is
one
of
the
items
that
was
put
in
this
budget
to
kind
of
cover
those
costs.
D
So
if
you
go
over
to
capital,
you've
got
about
forty.
Nine
thousand
dollar
increase
in
your
capital
outlay
from
last
year.
The
a
lot
of
some
of
that
is
you'll
see
that
there's.
What
did
I
have
in
that
one
I'm
lost.
Why
am
I
lost?
I
have
to
get
my
notes.
D
I'm
sorry
I'm
looking
for
the
overall,
so
that's
an
increase
from
the
prior
year
to
the
current
year.
So
what
you
see
is
in
buildings
whoops.
We
have
make
sure
I
have
this
right,
so
we
have.
As
you
know,
we
got
the
new
ada
compliant
push
button
that
we
put
in
city
hall,
we've
we're
going
to
put
some
more
funding
in
to
be
able
to
do
signs
and
push
plates
for
some
of
our
other
buildings
to
get
them
to
where
they
have
the
actual
ada
push
button
in
those
buildings.
D
These
items
that
you
see
here
that
are
roof
replacements.
If
you
recall
this
flooring
and
roof
replacement
was
in
the
current
budget
that
we're
in
now,
staff
has
has
put
it
into
this
upcoming
budget.
D
As
I
told
you,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
kind
of
watching
to
see
where
we
are
this
year
to
see
how
we
end
this
current
fiscal
year
that
we're
that
we're
in
these
are
some
of
the
items
we're
holding
back
right
now
because
of
the
sales
tax,
the
number
that
we've
been
hit
with
the
sales
tax,
and
so
these
are
items
that
we're
hoping
we
can
as
we
get
to
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
D
If
we've,
if
we've
got
some
savings
or
some
extra
funding
or
whatever
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
these
items
now
and
we
won't
have
to
have
those
included
in
the
next
year's
budget,
you
have
the
maintenance
on
the
museum.
As
you
know,
the
museum.
We
need
to
do
some
some
maintenance
on
the
museum.
Some
of
the
wood
on
that
is,
has
started
to
deteriorate
so
whatever
so
we
need
to.
D
We
have
some
funding
in
there
for
that,
and
then
what
we've
been
on
this
program
for
ac
replacement,
because
we've
had
some,
we
haven't
really
ever
done
a
really
good
job
at
going
through
our
acs.
So,
as
you
know,
the
last
couple
of
years
we've
had
several
ac
replacements.
This
is
putting
some
money
in
to
replace
some
of
the
other
ones.
So
soon
we'll
have
all
of
those
on
on
a
schedule,
and
then
again
you
see
the
software
in
here
the
50
000
again,
that's
the
asset
management
software
I
was
telling
you
about.
D
Each
facilities
will
be
a
person
that
will
you
this
will
be
a
big
piece
of
this.
For
them
this
software
will
be
huge
for
them
from
their
work
program
to
their
to
their
building
management.
So
that's
why
you
see
some
funding
in
there
as
well.
So
you
see
an
overall
34
budget
increase,
keep
in
mind
that
that,
but
that's
it's
significant
because
you
have
the
roofs
in
this
year's
in
the
20
were
put
in
the
roof
in
the
projected
budget
or
the
proposed
budget,
but
the
roof
was
already
in
the
current
budget.
D
So
for
some
reason
we
haven't.
I
can't
get
it
through
this
current
one
if
they're
they're
putting
it
in
for
the
next
year
but,
like
I
said,
we'll
we're
watching
all
the
numbers
really
close
and
and
hopefully
we
can
come
back-
and
we
can
do
some
of
these
now
that,
as
we
had
planned
in
the
current
year
and
not
have
to
to
roll
them
into
the
next
year,
so
administration.
So
now
that
so
that
covers
all
of
our
public
works
items.
D
Now
we'll
go
to
the
utility
side
of
the
house,
and
this
is
the
administration
side,
which
is
the
director's
section
of
the
of
the
utilities
or
the
cost
center.
So,
as
you
know,
and
they
have
all
the
daily
operations
management
of
the
daily
operations,
the
procurement
side,
the
budget-
this
is
where
customer
service
all
the
phone
calls
come
into.
The
administrative
group
work
orders.
This
is
where
the
work
orders
are
initiated
when
people
call
in
and
have
work,
orders
the
purchasing
and
operations,
supplies
and
equipment.
D
The
inventory
people
that
keep
our
fleet
inventory
and
our
fleet
is
covered
in
fleet.
I'm
sorry
this.
This
is
the
the
utility
inventory
control
person
and
then
the
warehouse
management
where
they
warehouse
they
hold
all
of
our
inventory.
You
can
see
that
last
year
we
had
nine
full-time
employees.
You
can
see
that
there's
six
in
the
current
year.
D
D
What
you
will
see
as
you
move
through
if
we
move
through
these
budgets
in
the
other
divisions,
we've
repurposed
some
of
these
positions,
so
we've
taken
some
positions
from
some
places
that
that,
for
example,
tell
you
there
was
an
administrative
position
here
that
we
were
able
to
repurpose,
because
one
of
the
other
divisions
had
a
compliance
issue
or
or
needed
somebody
to
help
with
one
of
our
compliance
issues
or
whatever.
So
we
were
able
to
repurpose
some
of
those
positions
still
being
these
this
department
or
this
division
still
being
able
to
perform
their
function.
D
D
D
The
cleaning
this
this
budget's
up,
the
next
few,
the
cleaning,
repair
maintenance
and
the
office
supplies
and
utility
services
you'll
see
a
significant
increase
here,
you're
going
to
see
a
significant
decrease
in
those
lines
in
the
other
divisions.
What
we've
done
is
in
order
to
manage
this
better
we've
put
it
into
the
administration
budget,
so
they
can
manage
the
office
supplies
for
the
for
the
whole
group
that
you
know,
because
we
there's
more
there's
efficiencies.
D
The
utility
bills
we've
put
them
all
in
the
administration
budget,
so
that
that
the
the
electric
bills
and
stuff
on
the
administration
building
is
in
one
area
so
that
we
can.
We
can
monitor
it
and
be
able
to
look
at
those
costs
going
forward
the
cleaning
of
the
building.
It
was
spread
over
all
the
divisions,
but
it's
one
fund,
so
it
does
so
we
put
it
in
the
administration
as
well,
so
that
it
can
be
it's
easier
to
manage
it.
D
Now,
if
you
cross
funds,
it's
different,
so
you'll
see
in
your
general
fund
that
they're
paying
their
portion
of
the
of
the
repair
and
maintenance,
but
because
this
is
all
one
fund,
we
put
it
in
the
administration,
so
they
can
manage
it
better
capital
outlay.
You
see,
there's
a
53
000
increase
from
the
prior
year.
Again
you
see
the
roof
replacement
for
the
administration
building.
That's
in
the
current
year.
D
It's
one
of
those
items,
we've
kind
of
held
back
a
little
bit
on
kind
of
waiting
to
see
where
we
end
this
fiscal
year
with
everything
that
we've
been
hit
with.
But
I
will
tell
you
that
this
is
this
is
the
route
this
is
one
of
those
items
we're
going
to
come
back
to
you
as
well
as
we
get
closer
to
the
fiscal
year
and
say
this
is
where
we
are.
D
This
is
what
we
want
to
do
and
then,
if,
if
we
can
do
it
in
this
current
year,
then
we
won't
have
to
roll
it
over
into
the
next
year
the
copier
scanner
machine
printer.
They
need
a
new
one
again,
as
we
talked
about
earlier
rob's
looking
through,
if
it's
better
for
us
to
lease
or
purchase
those
or
maybe
buy
out
the
one
that
we
have,
if
it's
going
to
last
for
several
years,
that
we
can
still
get
some
some
use
out
of
that.
D
D
So
that's
the
administration
side.
If
you
have
any
questions
there,
I
can
answer
any
of
those
and
then
so
vladimir
will
do
the
design.
L
Engineering
good
afternoon,
everyone,
I'm
air,
commissioner
vladimir
manowski,
I'm
the
design,
engineering
division
manager,
I'm
gonna
go
over
our
budget
for
the
fiscal
year.
2021.
L
design
engineering
is
funded
through
the
enterprise
fund.
It's
budget
line
3410
and
it's
part
of
the
public
services
department.
The
design
engineering
division
focuses
primarily
on
planning.
Can
you.
A
L
Sorry
about
that
as
part
of
the
public
services
department,
the
design
engineering
division
focuses
primarily
on
planning
and
engineering
of
the
city
utilities,
but
also
provides
professional
assistance
to
other
departments
such
as
the
community
development
and
parks
and
recreation,
and
plays
an
instrumental
role
in
various
grants.
Funded
projects,
so
design
engineering
currently
manages
three
programs.
L
That's
a
planning
and
engineering
program
which
consists
of
the
utility
capital,
improvement
plan,
program
or
plan
utilities,
rehabilitation,
replacement
program
and
utilities,
development
review
also
construction
management
program,
which
consists
of
the
project,
management
and
construction
inspection
and
the
asset
management
program.
Ultimately
that
we
are
all
talking
about
this
evening,
that
includes
the
geographic
information
system
or
the
gs
administration,
and
also
the
utilities
and
public
works
asset
management
for
the
entire
department.
So
design
engineering
currently
employs
seven
full-time
employees.
L
Two
new
positions
will
be
added
in
the
fiscal
year
2021
budget,
that's
a
construction
project
coordinator
and
construction
inspector.
These
two
new
positions
will
be
part
of
the
construction
management
program,
which
currently
consists
of
only
one
construction
inspector.
No
changes
will
be
made
in
the
total
number
of
the
department
employees.
L
One
position
is
being
transferred
or
utilized
from
the
administration
budget
and
the
other
ones
coming
from
the
water
operations
resources,
the
nine
full-time
employees
will
be
divided
into
three
groups
again:
the
planning
and
engineering
program.
That's
four
full-time
employees.
We
have
two
professional
engineers,
myself
and
another
professional
engineer.
L
L
Sorry
that
will
create
about
28.6
of
budget
increase
under
the
personnel
line,
which
is
between
one
126.10.
L
We
have
another
12
budget
decrease
in
the
supplies
and
other
services.
We
have
about
62
percent
budget
decrease
in
the
operation
supplies,
but
we
have
some
increases
in
the
fuel
and
gasoline
and
training
primarily
due
to
the
two
new
positions:
the
two
new
field
positions,
the
cap
going
to
the
capital
outlay.
We
have
about
156
000
budget
increase
here,
mainly
in
the
equipment.
We
need
to
acquire
three
new
vehicles,
ford,
f-150,
cng,
that's
one
new
vehicle
is
for
the
construction
project
coordinator
and
two
new
vehicles
for
the
construction
inspector.
L
Now
we'll
see,
as
we
come
to
closer
to
september,
we'll
see
how
the
revenue
goes.
We'll
have
more
information
on
that
we'll
see,
we
can
maybe
utilize
some
of
the
other
vehicles
that
our
divisions
will
be
replacing,
so
maybe
find
a
temporary
solution
and
maybe
we'll
move
something
to
next
year.
So
we'll
see
how
that
goes
on
the
intangible
assets.
L
We
have
three
line
items
here.
We
have
the
innovise
info
water,
that's
a
annual
license
subscription.
That's
one
license
subscription
for
eleven
thousand
dollars
the
info
water.
We
need
that
software
application
in
order
to
be
able
to
manage
our
water
and
wastewater
model,
as
well
as
to
update
the
utility
master
plan.
We
also
included
dinovice
info
asset
planner,
which
is
another
annual
license
subscription
for
sixteen
thousand
dollars.
L
L
L
D
I
do
want
to
say
one
thing:
real
clear,
I'm
clear
there
too,
when
you
talk
about
software,
we
were
talking
about
software,
those
pieces.
There
are
a
portion
that
are
in
there's
a
portion,
that's
nit,
for
example,
the
microsoft
everybody
across
the
city
uses
microsoft,
rob
pays
for
all
that
out
of
his,
but
the
transfer
which
we're
having
studied
now,
transfers
that
back,
it's
just
certain
specific
pieces
that
that
engineering
uses
they
maintain
in
there
through
their
budget.
I
Good
evening,
commissioners,
mayor
glenn
brooks
water
resource
operations
manager,
I'm
going
to
be
presenting
three
different
budgets
here.
So
first
we're
going
to
start
with
the
water
plants,
budget
line,
311
facilities
operated,
operate,
five
of
water
treatment
plants
activities
and
programs,
managed
distribution
of
potable
drinking
water,
water
quality
program
and
the
water
conservation
program
personnel.
I
I
Permit
again,
like
I
say,
even
though
we
didn't
add
new
positions,
we
do
have
an
increase
of
six
percent.
This
is
mainly
due
to
the
increase
in
regular
salaries
and
wages,
and
we've
encouraged
some
of
our
operators
to
achieve
a
higher
license
and
they've
done
that
throughout
the
year.
So
we're
excited
about
that
and
putting
them
in
a
higher
payer
ban,
hey
ban
supplies
and
other
services.
I
I
I
I
think
we
can
do
maybe
a
better
job
of
maybe
outreach
and
stuff,
and
let
them
know
that
is
available,
because
this
past
year
we
only
had
four
residents
just
took
advantage
of
that.
So
so,
with
that
we
we've
cut
the
budget
back,
and
so
that's
why
you
see
the
see
the
drop
there
again.
This
program
is
required
by
part
of
the
st
john's
cup
permit,
and
so
it
is
needed.
We
have
to
have
it.
I
We've
had
a
budget
increase,
hold
your
breath,
2.325
million
dollars.
This
budget
increase
is
mainly
due
to
the
replacement
of
three
of
the
upper
florida
aqua
wells
at
the
plymouth
regional
water
plant
with
one
lower
florida
florida
aqua.
Well
and
again,
this
is
required
by
our
st
john's
river
water
management
district
cup
permit
and
it's
at
a
cost
of
1.25
million
dollars.
I
I
Okay,
that's
current.
You
see
that
number
there,
the
0.75
that
is
due
it's
the
same
price
as
the
other.
Well,
that
is
because
we
had
to
carry
over
from
last
year,
500
000,
that's
carried
over.
These
are
large
projects
and
it
takes
over
two
years
to
be
complete
and,
and
with
that
number
up
there,
we
plan
on.
You
know
that'll
be
into
next
year's
budget.
Also,
so
that's
why
we
carried
it
from
last
year.
I
Equipment
we
budgeted
43
000
for
the
replacement
of
one
of
our
trucks,
the
water
department,
water
plant
department
due
to
wear
and
age.
The
truck
is
over
16
years
old
and
it's
out
in
the
public.
These
guys
run
around
from
plant
to
plant
with
these
trucks,
and
this
truck
is
is
in
need
of
a
replacement.
So
that's
why
we
budgeted
that
money.
There.
H
D
These
this
is
a
this
kind
of
a
wish
list.
The
wells
we're
gonna
have
to
fund
one
or
two
of
them.
We're
gonna
have
to
fund
them
somehow,
but
what
we're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
funding
them
over
a
two
year
period
or
three
year
period.
So
this
is
what
what
needs
to
be
done.
This
is
the
cost
of
doing
them
up
front,
but
we're
going
to
budget
it
in
like
a
two
year
period.
H
I
Next,
we'll
move
the
waste
water
plant,
water
recommendation
facility
budget,
3121
the
facilities
operated.
We
have
one
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
three
reclaimed
water
treatment,
plant
pumping
stations,
activities
and
programs,
managed
treatment
of
domestic
wastewater
distribution
of
reclaimed,
water,
environmental
compliance
program,
industrial
pre-treatment
program
and
fats,
oil
and
grease
fog
program.
I
I
I
As
you
are
aware,
we
just
completed
early
this
year.
The
wastewater
plant
expansion
and
one
of
the
requirements
of
our
ftp
operating
permit
was
that
during
construction
we
had
to
be
staffed.
24
hours
per
day,
once
construction
was
completed,
we
went
from
a
4.5
million
gallon
a
day
conventional
plant
to
an
8
million
gallon
a
day.
Biological
biological
nutrient
removal
plant.
I
I
I
I
This
in
return
created
two
operator
positions
that
we
were
able
to
use
in
areas
that
we
were
deficient
in.
This
includes
one
position
that
you're
seeing
here
it's
for
the
environmental
specialist
program
compliance
program.
We
have
an
environment,
we
want
to
hire
a
person
for
that
and
we're
able
to
do
that,
and
also
for
the
fog
program
fatso
in
greece.
I
I
There's
a
9.1
percent
budget
decrease
overall
utility
services
is
down
two
point:
five
percent
operating,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry,
twelve
point,
five
percent
and
operating
supplies
are
down
twelve
percent
again.
This
is
mainly
due
to
the
shutting
down
of
the
west
plant
contract
with
services
is
up,
212
percent,
you
say
whoa
wait
a
minute.
What's
going
on
here,
roughly
23
thousand
dollars
and
again,
let
me
explain
why
earlier
this
year
we
did
a
cost
of
what
the
city
pays
for
a
certified
in-house
lab.
I
We
looked
at
what
other
municipalities
are
doing
and
most
our
size
have
outsourced
their
lab.
Some
include
deltona
volusia,
seminole,
longwood,
castleberry
winter
springs.
When
we
looked
and
did
our
cost
analysis,
we
realized
that
moving
forward.
The
city
would
be
better
from
a
transparency
standpoint
and
from
a
cost
standpoint
to
move
forward
with
outsourcing
our
lab.
I
Savings
miscellaneous
charge
we
see
is
up.
Sludge
hauling
is
slightly
up,
there's
an
increase
there
in
the
sludge,
hauling
capital
outlay.
I
You
see
that
hundred
five
thousand
dollar
budget
increase
fifty
thousand
dollars.
We
did
budget
for
the
painting
of
the.
We
did
have
some
of
the
wastewater,
reuse,
storage,
tanks
painted.
We
have
one.
That's
we
haven't
yet
and
we'd
like
to
get
that
one
done.
There
is
a
cost
difference
between
doing
those
because
there
are
larger
tanks.
So
when
you
see
the
40
000
for
the
water
plant,
they're
like
500,
000
or
reuse
tanks
says
2
million
to
1
million
gallon
storage
tank.
So
there
is
a
cost
difference
there.
I
I
G
A
couple
when,
when
do
we
anticipate
having
to
restart
the
west
plant,
is
there
a
benchmark
number
of
homes
or
businesses,
or
is
there
a
time
frame
that
we
think.
I
Yeah,
commissioner,
banks,
that's
really
based
on
our
flows,
and
I
tell
you
what
we
have
not
seen.
If
we
go
back
six
eight
years,
our
flows
has
been
five
years
ago
was
2.8
million
we're
roughly
around
3.2?
Now
I
know
that
building
is,
you
know,
is
taking
off
on
the
north
side,
but
to
have
that
crystal
ball
to
know
when
that's
going
to
happen,
I
don't
know,
but
the
threshold
to
kick
that
in
is
if
you're
at
at
you
know,
60
some
percent
capacity
or
I'm
sorry
70
capacity.
I
You
need
to
have
a
contingency
plan
in
place.
We
do
have
it.
We
have
the
west
plant,
we
put
it
online,
then
I
think
we'd
make
a
judgment
call.
If
the
east
plant
was
still
meeting,
you
know
the
requirements,
we
probably
wouldn't
from
a
cost
standpoint
once
we're
not
meeting
those
requirements
and
we
get
to
a
certain
threshold.
We
would
put
the
west
plan
on.
But
to
that
do
you
know
when
that
would
be?
I
G
I
I
Absolutely
and
keep
in
mind
where
we
was
at
5-0.
You
know
the
economy
was
just
starting
to
come
back
and
also
where
we
are
today.
You
know
we're
we're
investigating.
I
I
I
H
Yeah,
the
only
question
I
would
have
is-
and
I'm
sure
you
all
are
on
top
of
this-
it's
just
going
into
an
outsourced
environment
for
our
lab,
I'm
assuming
the
contractual
language
has
indemnification
or
making
sure
that,
if
anything
happens,
that
would
potentially
put
at
risk
our
water
supplier
stuff,
like
that,
there's
we're
heavily
covered
there.
Correct!
Yes,.
I
Sir,
we
are,
and
that's
what
other
municipalities
do
and
again,
commissioner
becker
one
of
the
things
that
we
know
we've
all
heard
you
know
people
are
going
to
say
what
they're
going
to
say.
Well,
they
run
they
got
their
own
lab
down
there,
they're
cooking
the
books.
I
D
Yes,
sir,
okay
and
commissioner,
let
me
say
this
too:
we
will
continue
to
keep
we're
going
to
keep
all
the
assets
and
equipment
that
we
have
in
the
lab,
so
we're
not
selling
off
any
of
that
or
getting
any
rid
of
any
of
that.
In
case
we
decided
one
day.
We
wanted
to
bring
it
back
in-house.
For
some
reason,
I
don't
anticipate
that
because
it
works
very
well
outsourced,
but
if
we
ever
did
then
we
could.
We
could
do
that
plus.
We
can
still
do
test
and
house
right,
so
we
can
still
do
if.
I
And
we
will
be
taking
full
advantage
of
of
the
lab
that
we
do
have
you
know
far
as
for
one
of
the
things
we've
done
in
the
plant
expansion
when
I
come
in,
we
was
looking
at
that
maybe
of
outsourcing.
So
we
do
have
a
little
small
lab,
but
we
want
to
use
that
for
our
operators
to
be
efficient
every
day
and
use
it
for
for
other
staff
to
be
in
there
and
to
run
charge
tests
and
daily
samples
in
there.
I
I
I
This
was
for
the
lift
stations
collections
group,
so
we
went
from
11
down
to
seven
employees
at
the
time
and
we
were
more
efficient
that
way
because
for
for
plant
operations
and
or
I'm
sorry
for
the
for
the
maintenance
of
the
plants,
so
we
have
so
we
did
move
those
four
positions
over
and
they've
done
a
better
job
being
under
jorge
and
that
division.
I
I
This
is
where
we
wanted
to
move
those
two
positions
to
so
the
full-time
employees
we
have
is
one
maintenance
supervisor,
two
electricians,
two
instrumentation
technicians
and
two
utility
plant
mechanics
and
two
maintenance
workers,
supplies
and
other
services
is
increased.
Twelve
point:
two
percent.
I
The
increase
is
due
to
the
five
year
maintenance
and
repair
of
the
plant
reuse
well,
including
rehab
of
the
well
pump
and
the
well
hole
at
a
cost
of
50
thousand
dollars,
and
also
northwest
water
treatment.
Plant
high
service
pump
number
two,
the
five
year,
maintenance
and
rehab
of
it
at
a
cost
of
twenty
thousand
dollars.
I
I
I
want
to
just
reiterate
this
with
you
guys.
It
is
so
important
that
we
keep
our
plants
maintained
and
mowed
and
presentable.
Not
only
is
ascetics.
Is
it?
Is
it
important,
but
from
fdep
standpoint,
if
we
do
not
maintain
those
spray
bills
and
keep
them
at
a
certain
cut,
it
is
a
fine.
They
can
come
to
us
and
it's
a
regulatory
compliance
issue.
We
cannot
have
grass
growing,
like
sometimes
we
see
in
other
places.
So
it's
very
important.
I
That's
why
we're
excited
about
moving
these
people
over
in
this
position
to
be
proactive
in
getting
this
taken
care
of?
But
it
is
going
to
require
some
investment
from
us
and
some
equipment
to
get
the
job
done
to
be
efficient
and,
like
I
say,
that'll,
be
for
the
zero
turn
mower,
and
we
also
need
to
replace
our
massey
tractor
that
we
have
is
over
35
years
old
and
it's
it's
always
in
its
shop
in
the
fleet
and
down
so,
and
the
tractor
is
used
to
operate
our
batwing
mower
for
maintenance
of
those
spray
fields.
I
M
M
M
I'm
going
to
go
over
utility
maintenance
and
wastewater
maintenance
budgets
first
will
be
31.41
activities
and
prong
programs
managed
water
meetings,
replace
water
meters,
replacements,
replacement
program,
water
meters,
connection,
disconnection
program,
cross
connection,
backflow,
preventive
program,
hydra
maintenance
program,
valve
maintenance,
programs,
utility
connections
and
repairs
make
sure
our
customers,
if
they
ever
have
a
break.
We
gotta
be
able
to
make
sure
that
their
water
restored
utility
locates
program
and
we're
also
now
doing
our
own
restorations.
M
M
We
got
rid
of
3131,
which
is
our
construction
division.
You
know
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
outsourcing
on
new
utility
pipelines.
M
By
doing
this
is
going
to
enable
us
to
focus
on
the
assets
that
we
have
and
have
better
preventative
maintenance
on
them
or
do
better
better
preventive
maintenance
on
them.
So
we
went
from
15
full-time
employees
to
now
21.,
so
now,
they're
repurposed
and
we're
still
trying
to
manage
on
where
they're
best
needed
on
the
utility
maintenance
group
right
now
we
have
10
that
are
focused.
M
M
They
do
a
lot
of
the
water
leaks,
the
main
water
leaks
and
so
that's
their
focus,
and
we
want
utility
foreman
again
we're
making
sure
we're
staying
in
compliance.
And
you
know
doing
this
shift
is
going
to
allow
us
to
better
focus
on
our
cross
connection
control
program
and
making
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
that
we
are
required
to
do
by
dep.
M
We
need
to
get
a
better
hold
on
the
way,
we're
managing
and
we're
looking
into
our
all
the
approved
devices
and
making
sure
we
got
the
correct
device
on
all
the
residential
properties
that
require
one
we're
also
working
on
updating
our
cross
connection
control
program
manual.
So
that's
something
that
we'll
be
doing
and
we'll
also
be
doing
a
rate
study
on
that
to
make
sure
we
for
this
program
we're
getting
revenue
from.
So
that's
something
that
we're
looking
into
our
capital
outlay
increased
by
540
000.
M
That's
we
put
some
money
in
there
to
be
able
to
start
the
replacement
and
renewal
of
our
old
water
lines,
infrastructure
which
includes
asbestos.
They
become
brittle
and
we
put
together
a
plan
in
in
motion
or
we
did
an
analysis
and
kind
of
laid
it
out
on
how
long
it's
going
to
take
to
replace
the
amount
that
we
have
out
in
the
system
and
we
feel
like
540
will
be
a
good
start
to
get
that
program
going.
M
And
you
see
that
below
infrastructure
we
have
a
hundred
thousand
that
we
always
carry
over.
For
sorry,
450
is
the
actual
one
that
was
going
to
be
put
into
specific
to
this
program,
and
100.
000
is
one
that
we
tried
to
do
this
some
of
the
areas,
but
I
don't
think
we
were
doing
nearly
enough
to
you
know
reduce
the
the
water
leak.
So
you
know
water
leaks.
You
got
water
loss
and
you
know
that's
revenue
that
you
we're
losing
there
so
in
equipment.
We
got
a
acquisition
of
two
new
vehicles.
M
These
we
actually
didn't
purchase
them
this
year.
We
put
them
in
there
again
for
next
year.
That's
this
is
going
to
be.
Vehicles
are
going
to
be
used
on
this
cross
connection
program
and
also
our
census
metering.
We
feel
like
we're
going
away
from
the
rangers.
It's
limited
space
on
them.
The
more
meters
boxes
that
we
carry
the
less
time
guys
are
spending
going
back
to
restock
their
truck.
M
This
will
be
looked
into
installing
on
some
of
these
dead
end
lines
where
quality
becomes
an
issue,
and
we
don't
have
to
manually
do
them.
We
can
install
this
automatic
flushers
and
have
a
they
can
be
metered
and
you
can
monitor
as
they're
being
or
as
they
come
on.
M
We
also
have
money
in
there
for
our
asset
management
program,
and
that
was
for
us.
It's
a
big
benefit
it.
It
allows
us
to
plan
better
on
our
budget.
It.
Let
us
know
where
the
areas
are,
that
we've
been
getting.
The
most
work
orders
the
most
repaired
that
we,
where
we
have
done
the
most
repairs
and
where
our
focus
needs
to
be
going
forward.
H
M
M
These
guys
is
to
make
sure
that
we
get
a
better
handle
and
put
a
get
a
better
system
in
place
where
we
actually
going
out
and
and
doing
all
of
that
right
now,
as
they
come
to
a
hydrant,
they
do
a
complete
rehab,
which
is
they
break
it
down
all
the
way
down
to
the
bottom
seat
and
then
at
the
end
they
paint
it
so
we're
playing
catch-up
once
we
able
to
get
a
better
handle
of
them.
M
Now
we
can
turn
around
and
just
as
we
go
to
them,
do
a
minimal
inspection
and
then
paint
them,
and
it's
going
to
be
we're
going
to
be
more
efficient.
That
way
right
now,
we're
kind
of
you
can't
just
throw
paint
on
it
and
then
the
hydrant
doesn't
operate
properly.
So
we
got
to
make
sure
that
they're
operating
properly
before
we.
So
that's
the
thing
and
you
know
we
can
our
guys
are
that's
our
mission.
You
know
we
tell
them.
You
know
we
get
a
call.
M
We
got
to
make
sure
the
hydrant
is
broke
down,
at
least
to
where
we
know.
We
feel
comfortable.
That
is
going
to
operate
on
an
emergency,
and
then
we
then
paint
it,
but
we
don't
have.
We
don't
want
to
go
out
there
and
throw
some
paint
on
them.
H
H
Great,
I
remember
when
I
first
came
on
council,
one
of
the
very
first
budget
workshops
that
we
had.
We
talked
about
this
idea
of
this
asbestos
cement.
You
know
at
the
time
we
still
had
like
12
miles
of
asbestos
cement
and
in
the
in
the
system,
is
that.
E
E
E
A
E
A
E
M
H
D
That
is
what
that
is
what
was
put
in
the
budget
in
the
very
beginning.
The
prior
public
works
director
actually
was
here
and
built
these,
but
just
as
you
know,
kevin
put
these
together
for
us
and
did
a
good
job
getting
it
all
together.
I
personally
think
from
what
we've
talked.
What
we've,
what
we've
received
from
some
outreach
that
we've
gotten
that
it's
too
much
we,
I
think
it's
too
much,
and
so
we're
gonna
be
between
now
and
september.
You're
gonna
see
that
scaled
back
down.
D
It
down
because
we've
been
hearing
you
know:
we've
been
hearing
like
200
200
000,
not
450,
whatever
we've
been
hearing
200.,
so
I
think
you're
going
to
you're.
Not
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
see
that
scale
back
down,
because
we've
also
got
some
savings
and
if
we
let
some
other
software
go,
we
could
use
those
funds.
So
I
think
the
number
that
we're
seeing
is
around
200
000
for
a
good
program
city-wide.
So
that
number
that
those.
H
D
I
mean
that's
just
no
we're
seeing
two
closer
to
200,
so
I'm
I
will
tell
you
that
we
will
be
bringing
that
down
closer
to
200,
which
will
free
up
some
dollars
for
some
of
these
other
areas
that
we
need
and
then
once
we
go
out
to
bid
for
that,
once
we
decide
what
we're
going
to
get,
we
go
out
to
bid
get
that
product.
If
we'll
we'll
see
how
the
funding
comes
out,
but
we're
seeing
closer
to
200
now
400.
D
M
M
Any
more
questions
all
right.
Next
one
is
wastewater
maintenance,
budget
line,
3171
activities
in
programs
managed
under
this
division
is
sewer:
lift
stations,
maintenance
program,
generator,
inspection
program,
bypass
pump
inspections,
program,
water
control,
sewer
pipeline
inspections,
sewer
pipeline
cleaning,
sewer,
laterals
and
valve
inspections
program
and
sewer
maintenance
inspections,
personnel.
We
had
a
budget
increase.
M
M
I
guess
they
work
closer
together,
so
it
made
sense
to
put
them
back
on
31-71.
We
also
moved
a
couple
of
the
guys
from
three
guys
from
construction
into
this
to
fill
in
some
other
gaps.
You
got
on
this
division.
You
got
one
utility
maintenance
manager,
eight
sewer,
lift
station
maintenance,
full-time
employees,
and
then
the
other
ones
are
in
the
collections,
which
is
they
do
the
inspections
or
manual
inspections,
laterals
valves
and
stuff.
M
Supply
and
other
services,
we
had
an
increase
of
30.9
percent.
That's
due
to
utility
service
being
moved
into
this
budget.
That's
the
electrical
bills
for
all
the
lift
stations
they
we
put
in.
Where
is
now
it's
on
the
right
budget
line,
operation
of
operating
supplies.
Also,
we
see
an
increase
there
of
25.5
percent
and
that's
due
to
put
extra
money
in
there
on
our
order
control
and
this
budget
we
are
barely
going
to
have
enough
there
to.
M
You
know
finish
off
the
year
in
on
what
we
need
nets.
We
increased
it
a
little
bit
to
be
able
to
run
a
couple
pilots
to
see
if
there's
a
better
chemical
out
there
to
have
a,
I
guess,
either
most
more
cost
efficient
order,
control
or
chemical
that
works
better,
for
that
can
also
improve
or
help
us
and
also
improve
their
plant
and
maybe
give
them
some
help
on
what
we
send
to
them
capital
outlay.
We
had
a
budget
increase.
M
M
Our
list
stations
are
only
meant
to
last
20
years.
We
have
some,
there,
that's
been
running
forever
and
we
continue
to
run
them
and
repair
them
as
needed.
But
we
need
a
program
there
that
where
we
do
a
complete
rehab,
not
just
patch
it
in
so
that
we
can
keep
going,
we
need
to
start
replacing
electrical
panels,
re-lining
wet
wells,
replacing
the
the
pumps,
so
they
have
better
efficiency
and
reduce
down
electrical
costs.
The
more
they
wear
down
the
harder
they're
running
the
longer
they're
running
so
increase
its
electrical
bills.
M
You
know,
and
some
of
them
already
the
capacity
is
no
longer
sufficient,
so
they
need
to
be
upgraded
overall.
So
that's
money
in
there
and
vladimir
has
been
working
hard
to
try
to
get
a
something
going,
our
program
going,
so
we
can
start
laying
out
the
foundation
of
that
program
and
continue
to
improve
the
or
repair
or
replace
our
lift
stations
equipment.
We
have
a
acquisition
of
100kw
generator
mobile
k
generator.
M
We
currently
have
four
in
the
fleet
with
124
lift
stations.
Sometimes
it
makes
it
difficult
to
move
around
and
you
know,
as
we
have
big
storms
come
out
power
outages,
so
lift
stations
get
hit
hard.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
constantly
keep
them
pumped
down.
So
that
way
we
don't
have
no
major
sewer
backups
we're
having
their
four
new
lift
station
pumps
and
those
are
going
to
be
to
replace
some
of
this
outdated
pumps
that
are
causing
vibration
issues
as
at
residential
neighborhoods,
we're
not
gonna.
M
This
is
get
rid
of
them.
We're
gonna
repurpose
them
and
use
them
as
backups
on
sites
that
vibration
issues
about
vibration
is
not
an
issue
where
they're
out
of
residential
neighborhoods,
putting
their
money
for
a
new
crane
truck,
and
that's
also
to
allow
us
to
do
better
maintenance
on
the
124
lift
stations
which
it
comes
out.
They
have
295
submersible
pumps,
so
those
constantly
get
blocked
or
just
you
know,
just
doing
the
maintenance
on
them.
M
M
And
on
crane,
that's
that's
very
old,
because
it's
constantly
running
the
engine
is
constantly
running
when
you're
there
at
the
site
to
be
able
to
do
the
maintenance
on
them.
Granted
on
this
one,
the
chassis
is
0.7,
but
the
the
body,
the
the
bed
itself
is
older.
It's
probably
more
of
a
95.
It
was
that's
the
way
it
was.
We
saved
money
back
then,
but
it's
just
it's
getting
worn
out,
and
here
we
also
got
the
intangible
assets
of
50
000.
We
got
a
budget
increase
of
59.7
percent.
H
Can
I
clarify
one
piece
before
you
do
because
I
want
to
on
the
street
light
that
doug
you
had
mentioned
before
on
that
line,
because
it's
is
it
a
commingled
effect,
because
that
particular
line
like
the
1.2
million
it
going
down?
That's
how
much
we
expend
to
pay
for
the
lights
on
right.
D
Yeah,
what's
embedded
in
that
number,
the
reason
you've
seen
it
going
down.
We
haven't
taken
any
street
lights
out
or
anything
or
we
haven't
done
any
changes
to
that.
What
happens
is
with
the
street
light
program.
The
way
it
works
is,
if
you
have
new
lights
installed,
you
have
to
pay
an
upfront
what
they
call
a
ciac
construction
in
native
or
capital
and
aid
of
construction.
D
So
you
have
to
pay
duke
that
fee
up
front
one
time
to
install
them,
then,
after
that
you
just
pay
the
the
monthly
charge.
So
what
you
have
is
last
year,
if
you
recall
we
put
lights
in
we
added
lights
and
on
on
park
avenue
we've
added
some
in
in
in
the
the
southern
half
of
the
city,
we've
added
some
lights.
We
added
some
to
the
park.
If
you
notice,
I
don't
know,
if
you've
noticed
or
not,
but
the
lights,
they
moved
them
closer.
D
They
moved
into
the
sidewalk
and
made
a
match
our
lights
around
the
outside.
If
you
drive
around
the
city,
you'll
notice
that
I
think
it's
from
michael
gladden,
all
the
way
to
just
past
kitland
nelson
park,
they're
slowly
changing
out
all
of
the
the
ones
that
we
have
now
to
led.
D
So
what
happened
was
because
we
did
a
lot
of
changes
last
year
like
that.
That
number
was
high
because
we
had
to
pay
some
out
of
some
up
front
out
of
pocket.
So
now
it's
coming
back
down
to
where
it
needs
to
be.
H
And
that
that's
a
good
point,
so
that's
really
that
should
be
indicative
of
us
putting
more
into
the
system
because
right
now
we're
in
such
a
growth
mode
as
a
city
anyways,
you
would
hardly
ever
see
that
number
go
down
because
we're
always
adding
more
into
the
system
and
energy
costs
certainly
aren't
going
down.
Duke's
not
gonna,
go
down
on
the
energy
cost.
So,
okay,
fair
point.
So
really
we
should
interpret
that
that
delta
being
kind
of
funds
that
we
did
put
into
the
system
that
we
may
not
be
doing
this
year.
Correct
right.
D
And
we'll
see,
like
I
said,
and
on
the
streets
one
and
I
will
tell
you-
I've
been
beating
myself
up
every
night
over
the
streets,
fun
and
I
have
even
when
I
was
here
before.
That's
always
been
the
toughest
fund
and
you'll
see
that
you
see
that
in
every
place,
even
with
county.
That's
why
the
county!
D
You
see
the
counties
working
on
some
stuff
from
their
one
cent,
sales
tax
or
whatever
initiative
they
see
going
on,
because
that
is
an
area
everybody's
struggling,
we're
struggling
in
transportation,
it
just
the
gas
tax
and
just
does
not
keep
up
with
that
that
source.
So
you
see
people
struggling
with
that
everywhere,
but
I
hopefully
like
I
said
I
have
my
fingers
crossed.
I
hope
that
I
am
very
conservative
and
I've.
D
The
revenue
estimating
council
is
supposed
to
meet
friday
and
I
hope
that
I'm
thinking
25
and
I
hope
they're
thinking
20,
because
it
will
it
will
help
all
the
way
around,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
at
their
their
that
can
call
when
it
comes
to
that
so
we'll
see
where
they
they
come
out,
but
they
meet
friday
and
they
say
they're
going
to
have
estimates
next
week.
D
We
will
see,
I
think,
they're
waiting
to
see
what
actually
is
happening
with
the
the
last
several
months
of
sales
tax
before
they
actually
tell
us
what
we
can
kind
of
project
out
into
the
future
and
with
the
numbers
where
they
are
today.
What
that
we're
seeing
with
with
the
with
the
covet,
who
knows
where
that
number
will
be,
but
so
along
those
lines
for
tonight.
So
first,
what
I'd
like
to
say
is
I'd
like
to
thank
the
staff.
D
D
I
tried
to
listen
over
the
last
year
to
them
about
where
they
had
deficiencies.
You
saw
the
fats
and
oil
the
grease
program
we
weren't.
Nobody
was
monitoring
that
we
were
able
to
find
some
efficiencies
in
the
current
positions
that
we
have
to
put
people
in
places
for
those
issues
that
are
compliance,
issues,
the
maintenance
of
our
facilities,
it's
important
that
we
keep
the
facili
it's
a
requirement
that
you
keep
the
facilities
mowed
and
maintained
around
all
of
the
tanks
and
all
of
the
equipment
is
a
requirement.
D
So
I
think
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
they've
done
a
good
job
with
that
we've
worked
hard.
We
have
been
beating
these
numbers
up
like
crazy,
so,
and
I
wanted
you
to
see
the
whole
picture.
I
want
you
to
see
from
them
being
out
in
the
field
what
they're
dealing
with
what
they're?
Having
to
you
know
what
their
issues
are,
what
their
their
problems
are
see
the
whole
picture.
D
Now,
when
we
come
with
you
in
september,
some
of
these
bigger
numbers
that
you
saw
be
scaled
back
a
little
bit,
but
it's
the
program
that
we're
getting
established
so
that
going
forward.
You
know
we
have
this
rehab
lift
station.
We
have
this
this
backflow
program.
We
have
these
programs
in
place
and
you
can't
do
it
all
in
one
year,
but
at
least
we're
on
the
right
track
of
where
we're
trying
to
be
proactive
instead
of
reactive
so
and
getting
the
right.
A
Study
to
know
where
we
are
with
with
all
the
you
know,
because
we
haven't
had
one
done
in
a
while,
and
so
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
charging
the
right
amount
of
money
to
not
only
supply
that
service,
but
for
the
depreciation
and
the
you
know,
whatever
we
need
to
do
as
a
pro
proactive,
you
know,
fix
or
or
a
proactive
replacement
versus,
wait
till
it
tears
up
and
then
try
to
figure
out
where
to
come
up
with
the
money.
Well,.
D
And
they're
digging
around
now
the
rate
people
are
in
digging
around
and
everything
now
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
the
house
in
order.
Do
we
have
the
right
people
in
the
divisions,
because
the
end
of
the
day,
the
rate
study
they
come
in
and
you
give
them
you
give
them
the
information
they
look
at
the
information.
If
you
tell
them,
you
need
six
people
in
this
area.
That's
where
they're
gonna,
they're
gonna,
take
you
as
management
as
that's
what
you
need.
So
I
was
very
important.
D
D
Well,
then,
let's
get
all
of
that
in
order
first,
so
that
everything's
covered
that
needs
to
be
covered
and
you
can
perform
those
functions
going
forward
and
on
a
program
so
that
when
they're
doing
the
right
study
they
know
we
need
this
maintenance
program
so
much
every
year
to
stay
up
to
date.
We
need
to
change
these.
These
lines
out
that
you're
talking
about
and
we
need
300
400
000
a
year
to
continue
to
stay
on
that
path.
G
So
I
really
want
to
echo
that,
with
the
staff
I've
been
really
impressed
from
fire
right
on
across
the
board.
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
digging
in
and
finding
where
we
can
make
savings
by
being
more
efficient,
and
it's
always
that's
always
been
my
mode-
is
fiscal
sustainability
and
being
ahead
of
that
curve,
not
waiting
till
this
builds
up
and
as
hard
as
it
is
this
year
with
all
of
those
things,
we've
got
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
not
let
something
be
kicked
down
the
road.
G
B
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
staff
comes
to
present
the
managers
themselves
to
present
their
budgets
because
they're
the
ones
actually
in
the
field
and
they
know
what
they
need
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
hear
their
passion
and
their
desires
as
to
what
they
would
like
to
have
and
what
it
takes
in
order
for
them
to
work
efficiently
and
do
the
job
to
make
our
city
the
kind
of
city
that
we're
going
to
be
proud
of.
B
And
so
I'm
confident
you
know
when
you
go
to
your
meeting
I'll,
tell
you
15
and
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
a
whole
lot
more
than
we
thought
we
could
can.