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From YouTube: March 10 2022 Forest Management Committee Meeting
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March 10 2022 Forest Management Committee Meeting
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Okay,
oral
communications,
the
15-minute
time
period
provided
for
the
people
to
address
the
committee
on
matters
not
on
the
agenda
at
the
occlusion
conclusion
of
all
oral
communications.
The
committee
may
respond
to
statements
request
that
requires
staff.
Action
will
be
set
by
the
committee
for
a
future
agenda
or
referred
to
staff.
Do
we
have
any
public
communications
submitted
for
today
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
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This
committee
had
recommended
three
top
priorities
for
forest
improvements:
two
being
public
access
with
the
margaret
lane,
trailhead
improvements
for
the
sunny
brave
forest
improvements
for
access
for
all
trail
users,
also
an
alternate
trail
to
trail
9
in
the
arcata
community
forest
track.
That
would
really
help
redistribute
trail
users
from
a
steep
section
of
trail.
Nine,
where
we
have
staff
have
received
more.
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So
just
wanted
to
give
that
update
and
then
ford.
For
next
year,
city
staff
will
be
compiling.
You
know,
progress
on
meeting
those
priorities
and
ensuring
that
our
expenditures
are
shared
and
tracked
with
the
committees
in
the
ad
hoc
committee
and
especially
if
there
is
funding
shortfalls
or
funds
left
over.
Those
would
be
what
funds
left
over
would
be
going
towards
enhancing
the
reserve
in
this
open
space
special
tax
fund,
but
that's
just
a
brief
update
on
on
the
status
of
those
priorities.
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We
have
several
several
areas
identified
in
jacobi,
creek
forest,
and
it
was.
We
will
see
if
we'll
talk
about
that,
also
just
with
our
next
agenda
item,
but
but
that
will
be
needed
for
just
further
identification
and
consideration
of
you
know
what
locations
would
make
the
most
sense
for
kind
of
going
in
and
doing
road
or
culvert
upgrades
and
what
ones
do
we
really
want
to
plan
when
we're
next?
Having
a
larger,
you
know,
forest
management
activities
in
certain
parts
of
the
jacobi
creek
forest
in
particular,.
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We
are,
you
know,
I
think
the
cal
poly
humboldt
is
continuing
to
determine
how
that
property
will
be
managed
and
opportunities
for
co-management.
So
right
now
we
are
not
actively
working
on
management
priorities
on
that
on
those
parcels
right
now,
but
there
is
certainly-
and
I
really
foresee
in
the
future-
those
collaboration
opportunities.
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Good,
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
some
road
connections
between
that
property
and
the
80
acres,
that
the
city
was
able
to
acquire
and
what
our
responsibility
would
be
there.
Perhaps
you
know
if
we're
going
to
go
into
management
that
requires
passing
through
the
80
acres
or
on
the
80
acres,
I'm
wondering
if
we
will
need
to
do
some
a
pertinent
road
upgrades
in
order
to
in
order
to
access
that
property
and
beyond
larger
jacobi
creek
forest.
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Yeah
that
road
as
it
is
now
dennis,
is
just
a
seasonal,
unrock
road.
We,
the
city,
rocked
portions
of
it
from
the
gate
at
fickle
hill
road
down-
for
probably
I
don't
know
just
a
few
hundred
feet.
You
know
a
thousand
feet
or
something
in
just
some
of
the
worst
locations,
but
we
haven't
shaped
the
road
or
anything.
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The
cities,
s
the
cities,
80
acres
in
there
are
pretty
accessible
right
off
that
main
road,
but
the
road,
definitely
you
know,
is
encroaching
with
small
alders
and
brush
brushy
type
species
on
the
edges,
but
for
the
most
part,
it's
just
a
seasonal
summer,
road
right
now,
but
anyway,
great.
Thank
you
you're
welcome
and
I
don't
see
any
comments
from
anyone
in
the
public
on
these
all
business
items
here.
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So
this
was
a
part
of
their
packet
at
the
last
meeting,
and
these
are
kind
of
numbers
for
reference
locations,
and
this
was
not
included
in
this
packet,
but
we'll
kind
of
pull
up
the
map.
So
this
is
what
we'll
use
as
a
standing
way
to
be
able
to
talk
about
where
these
priority
locations
are
both
in
the
acf
and
sunny
bray,
as
well
as
priorities
on
the
jacobi
creek
forest.
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So
in
particular
of
this
you
know
seven
and
eight
in
this
area
that
we
were
just
talking
about
with.
You
know
this
being
a
major.
You
know
priority
for
the
committee
and
the
city
improving
roads
in
the
upper
jacobi
creek
forest,
including
the
spi
83
city
property
and
the
cal
poly
humboldt
forest
as
well
as
getting
in
here
soon
for
have
timber
inventory
at
the
spi
83
city
property.
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So
I'm
happy
to
touch
on
again
any
of
these,
these
specific
priorities
or
if
there
are
other
things
that
the
committee
would
like
to
keep
updating.
As
this
will
be
a
living
document,
we
will
keep
referring
to
and
also
please
let
staff
know
if
it's
helpful
to
have
these
priorities
and
the
associated
mapping.
You
know
in
your
packet
each
time
or
if
you
would
like
to
continue
to
have
this
as
a
standing
item.
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You
know
in
the
city's
interest
of
collaborating
with
local
tribes,
collaborating
with
jacobi
creek
land
trust
in
the
jacobi,
creek
watershed
and
they're.
You
know,
and
there
continue
to
be
opportunities
that
we
can
explore
with.
You
know
our
partners
for
ensuring
that
you
know
there
may
be
acquisition
opportunities.
That
would
really,
you
know,
benefit
the
city's
forest,
but
we're,
but
we
are
really
wanting
to
be.
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My
understanding
on
that,
michael,
is
that
you
can
go
to
a
working
forest
management
plan
slightly
different
than
the
ntmp,
which
is
going
to
allow
that
greater
acreage.
The
again
from
my
understanding,
it's
been
kind
of
cost
prohibitive
for
us
at
this
point
we
may
get
there.
We
would
discuss
that
as
a
committee,
but
we
would
have
to
kind
of
look
at
all
like
the
whole
road
system
of
all
the
properties
and
new
geo.
It
would
be
similar
to
when
we
started
the
ntmp
from
what
I
understand
about
that
process.
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B
Yeah
right
now
with
the
ntmp,
we
file
an
nto
every
you
know,
anytime.
We
do
management
activities
and
I'm
not
sure
how
the
working
forest
management
plan
would
be.
I
would
imagine
it
would
be
similar,
but
it
it
would
be
a
lot
of
upfront
work,
but
then
it
would
allow
us
to
be
able
to
continue
to
grow
the
forest
all
under
that
one
management
plan.
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And
I'm
wondering
if
the
next
box
next
to
collaborate
with
other
organizations
should
be
something
on
the
order
of
start
a
rainy
day
fund
to
help
fund
that
shift
to
the
working
forest
plan,
because,
right
now
I
don't
know
how
much
of
a
rainy
day
fund
we
actually
have.
So
we
can
start
building
up
a
war
chest
to
cover
the
costs
of
doing
that
kind
of
planning
in
the
future.
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B
Right
now
and
just
to
kind
of
further
this
conversation
right
now,
we've
been
very
strategic
on
the
parcels
that
we
want
to
integrate
into
the
ntmp.
So
the
new
planned
ntmp
amendments
we're
taking
long-term
outlook
and
the
2500
acres
into
consideration
prior
to
amending
those
properties
into
the
mtmp.
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Me
engagements
both
at
the
decision
makers,
recommending
bodies
and
just
generally
with
the
public
since
that
time,
and
we
intend
to
conde,
continue
this
engagement
for
about
the
next
you
know
month
or
so
month
or
two,
but
then
sometime
early
in
2022,
we're
hoping
to
sort
of
resolve
on
the
framework
of
this
document
so
that
we
can
start
digging
into
the
details
that
will
be
included
in
a
zoning
ordinance
and
so
just
sort
of
high
level.
This
document,
the
gateway
area
plan,
is
going
to
be
an
element
of
the
general
plan.
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It's
intended
to
be
the
policy
document,
the
high
level
high
order,
generalities
that
we
would
then
use
to
compare
with
the
more
detailed
and
substantive
ordinance
that
would
implement
these
policies.
So
it's
it's
important
to
understand.
I
think
some
people
have
been
confused
by
the
lack
of
detail
in
this
document.
It's
purposefully
designed
that
way.
G
Okay,
so
here's
the
cover,
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
about
what's
in
this
document,
but
I
do
just
want
to
orient
you
real
quick.
We
have
a
people
summary
as
opposed
to
an
executive
summary.
This
document
was
written
for
the
people,
so
we
have
a
people
summary
instead
of
an
executive
summary.
This
is
a
great
synopsis
of
everything
we're
trying
to
do
in
the
document.
So,
if
you
haven't
read
it,
I
encourage
you
to
do
so,
especially
if
you
don't
think
you'll
have
the
time
or
interest
of
reading.
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G
A
little
background
noise
there,
but
I
wanted
to
pause
for
a
moment
here
and
look
at
the
map,
so
on
figure
one.
We
see
the
gateway
area
designated
here
in
yellow,
so
it
encompasses
several
blocks
along
samoa
and
then
it
kind
of
zigzags
in
here
picking
up
some
opportunity
sites
within
the
area
surrounding
k
street
here's
bud's
mini
storage.
G
It
includes
the
winkle
floyd
property
and
then
goes
out
along
q
street
jags
over
and
then
follows
along
m
n
street.
Excuse
me
and
then
comes
back
down
alliance
decay
and
then
we're
back
in
a
loop.
So
this
is
the
area
that
we're
talking
about
here,
and
many
of
you
is
in
the
forest
management
committee
will
be
familiar
with
this
area.
As
you
know,
former
you
know:
mills
industrial
lands
right
within
the
center
of
our
city
and
just
to
put
some
context
on
it.
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G
This
area
has
been
envisioned
as
a
you
know,
opportunity
for
mixed
use-
it's
organically
developed
as
a
mixed-use
zone
over
time,
you're
familiar
with
the
creamery
district
and
and
perhaps
you're
familiar
with
some
of
the
zoning
changes
that
we
made
to
accommodate
what
was
going
on
in
the
creamery
district.
Previously
this
is
sort
of
a
a
one,
a
level
up
on
that
effort
that
was
done
earlier
and
to
really
embrace
the
fact
that
you
know
many
of
these
sites.
Are
you
know,
vacant
underutilized?
G
Okay,
I'm
gonna
jump
around
a
little
bit
here,
but
I
do
want
you
to
note
the
you
know
the
topics
here.
So
there
are,
you
know
several
different
topic
areas
ranging
from
land
use
to
infrastructure
and
we
can
dig
into
any
of
these
or
interest
you,
but
I
wanted
to
pop
over
to
the
land
use
section,
real,
quick
and
just
orient
you
to
a
couple
of
the
pieces
that
are
again,
I
think
germane
to
the
discussion
today.
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For
instance,
in
these
these
brown
zones
between
higher
density
uses,
that
will
happen
in
the
core
and
the
existing
lower
density
uses
that
surround
the
prop
the
the
project
area,
and
then
I
wanted
to
kind
of
dive
into
some
of
the
policies.
So
I'll
use
this
as
a
by
way
of
example,
for
how
the
entire
document
is
set
up
just
again
for
orientation.
G
We
typically
start
off
with
some
front
matter
that
talks
about
the
the
purpose,
and
then
we
dive
into
the
policies
explaining
what
the
objective
of
those
policies
are
and
then
for
areas
that
have
the
need
for
additional
definition
around
what
the
programs,
the
implementation
programs,
would
be
to
implement
those
policies.
We've
got
you
know,
program
section,
so
just
zooming
in
real,
quick
on
you
know
these
land
use
policies.
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G
For
you
know,
industrial
uses
on
the
ground
floor
and
residential
uses
on
the
top
floor,
which
I
believe
in
many
instances
that
can
be
done,
we're
not
telling
you
you
can't
do
that.
Traditionally,
our
land
use
tries
to
segregate
those
uses,
and
so
you
can
have
industrial
over
here.
You
can
have
housing
over
here,
but
you
can't
have
them
combined.
G
There
are
certain
uses
that
are
just
not
compatible
with
that,
and
you
know
many
storage
has
been
sort
of
the
the
the
use
that
I've
picked
on
most
often
most
frequently,
because
many
storage
does
not
contribute
to
those
goals
and
objectives.
It's
not
to
say
that
many
storage
is
an
important
land
use
activity
that
provides
a
service
to
the
community.
G
But
if
we
were
to
design
a
perfect
city,
not
many
of
us
would
put
many
storage
right
in
our
downtown
area,
so
there
will
likely
be
a
provision
that
says:
look.
You
know.
Personal
storage
can
be
combined
with
other
uses.
So
if
you
have,
you
know
housing
and
you're,
not
you
know.
Most
of
those
units
are
small.
Those
people
are
going
to
need
a
place
to
put
their
stuff.
G
You
know
how
to
implement
those
uses.
The
other
thing
that
I
want
to
focus
on
just
before
we
you
know
before
I
close
and
there's
there's
a
lot
more
in
this
document,
but
I'm
trying
to
focus
on
what
I'm
anticipating
is
of
interest
to
you.
Are
these
two
policies
down
here?
The
first
ga1f
relocate
existing
uses,
and
so
the
idea
here
is
that
you
know
we
don't
want
to
lose
businesses
our
data
businesses.
G
You
know
outside
the
city,
we
do
have
some
lands
that
are
zoned
appropriately
for
some
of
the
heavy
industrial
uses
that
are
contained
within
the
site.
We
also
have
lands
outside
of
this
area
that
are
zoned
appropriately,
for
you
know
some
of
the
other
uses
that
would
be,
you
know
not
allowed
in
the
future.
For
the
most
part,
most
of
the
uses
that
are
occurring
in
the
zone,
though,
would
be
allowed,
and
would
you
know,
would
continue
as
a
legal,
conforming
use,
but
if
they
do
have
to
relocate.
G
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out-
and
this
is
the
the
last
policy
I'll
focus
on-
is
ga-1g
non-conforming
uses,
site
conditions
and
structures
where
you
have
uses
that
are
non-conforming
that
are
determined.
You
know
illegal
in
the
new
code,
but
they're
existing
now
mini
storage.
For
example,
we
have
a
couple
of
them
in
the
in
the
district.
Those
non-conforming
uses
can
go
on
indefinitely.
There's
no
reason
why
use
if
they
want
to
continue
can't
continue
and
in
fact,
there's
a
provision
if
that
use.
G
Generally
speaking
with
non-conforming
uses,
you
don't
want
to
see
them
expand
because
you
don't
want
to
see
them.
You
know
re-entrench
and,
and
you
want
to
see
that
that
area
shift
away
from
those
non-conforming
uses,
but
there
is
a
sort
of
back
door.
Another
process
that
that
non-conforming
uses
can
go
through
to
ensure
that
you
know
they
can
remain
viable.
G
What
we
believe
will
happen
with
this
plan
is
that
many
of
those
non-conforming
uses
will
at
some
point
realize,
instead
of
investing
in
this
non-conforming
use,
it's
actually
to
my
financial
benefit
to
you,
know,
transition
and
start
looking
at
other
uses.
That
would
be
more
compatible
with
the
vision.
So
those
last
two
points
again.
Just
to
recap,
existing
businesses
city
will
work
to
relocate
them
within
city
limits,
and
existing
businesses
that
are
non-conforming
can
continue
to
operate
as
non-conforming
businesses,
and
that's
that's
sort
of
all.
A
Yeah,
I'm
raising
my
hand
so
david.
I
I
want
to
thank
you.
I
have
actually
read
the
gateway
plan
and,
as
you
know,
I
agree
during
the
planning
commission
hearing
what
about
three
weeks
ago
or
something
and
and
it's
a
hell,
it's
a
really
big
piece
of
work
and
a
lot
of
thought.
It's
obvious.
A
lot
of
thought
went
into
it
and
a
lot
of
work,
and
so
I
want
to
commend
you
on
that.
A
The
one
thing
that
really
concerns
me,
of
course,
are
those
last
two
items
that
you're
you're
talking
about
regarding
conforming
uses
and
assisting
any
business
to
relocate
the
the
community
forest.
As
you
know,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
basically
growing
large
trees
and
providing
high
quality
logs
to
the
market,
and
it's
all
part
of
the
entire
management
plan
strategy
to
show
people
how
to
do
restoration,
forestry
and
to
make
it
economically
viable
to
do
so.
A
A
It
creates
tons
more
greenhouse
gases,
and
things
like
that,
so
it's
critical
that
we
maintain
a
large
diameter,
sawmill
figus
right
now
does
have
the
opera
does
have
the
capacity.
However,
what
they're
doing
is
they're,
basically
taking
all
the
logs
from
humboldt
redwood
companies,
the
large
logs,
they
are
not
out
there
buying
logs.
A
So
that
is
not
an
option
for
us,
so
if
rnl
needs
to
relocate
that
is
going
to
result
in
a
lot
of
downtime,
it's
going
to
potentially
result
in
a
loss
of
their
market
and
then
they're
going
to
have
to
ramp
up
again
and
try
to
recover
that.
So
it's
a
it
is
a
huge
concern
for
the
city
community
forest
anyway
and
for
this
committee,
and
so
when
you
say
that
the
city
is
looking
to
would
assist.
A
G
You
know
those
are
great
questions
I
think
you
know
to
you
know
to
a
couple
of
the
points
that
you
made.
You
know,
I
think
those
are
considerations
of
the
plan
as
well.
I
mean
our
overall.
Our
our
economic
development
strategy
recognizes,
you
know,
number
one
niche
manufacturing,
which
you
know
whether
we
like
it
or
not.
You
know
log
processing,
you
know
timber
management
in
this
area
has
become
it's
gone
from
a
major.
G
We
want
to
support
that
and
continue
to
you
know
to
grow
that
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
the
overall
economic
impact
I
mean
you
know,
I
think
that
there
there
are
going
to
be
changes.
You
know,
and
all
changes
have
even
ramifications
both
intended
and
unintended,
and
and
we
will,
you
know,
continue
to
manage
those,
but
you
know
the
implications
to
the
economy
as
a
whole.
Ensuring
that
we
have
you
know
source.
For
you
know.
G
These
linkages
of
different
economic
activities
is
an
area
where
we
believe
we
have
a
special.
You
know
advantage
both
locational
and
you
know,
and
the
fact
that
we
already
have
those
businesses
in
our
our
community.
So
I
think
we're
going
to
continue
to
to
leverage
those
in
the
future.
We've
been
in
communications
with
both
the
landowner
and
rnl
lumber.
I
won't
speak
for
either
of
those,
but
you
know
will
identify,
and
I-
and
I
also
am
not
at
liberty
to
discuss
you
know
in
in
detail.
G
G
And
to
answer
your
other
question
about
you
know
what
specifically
we
would
do.
We
don't
have
programs
in
place
right
now
per
se,
and
so
at
this
point
you
know
they
would
have
to
be
crafted
on
a
one-off.
You
know
basis,
but
what
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
do
with
this
plan
is
to
actually
establish
an
ongoing
funding
source
that
would
assist
with
business
relocation,
so
the
way
we'd
cobble
it
together
now
would
be.
G
You
know,
through
means
of
you
know,
maybe
a
cdbg
grant
for
job
retention,
for
example,
or
the
city
has
land
out
in
happy
valley,
and
so
maybe
you
know
you
know,
partnership
on.
You
know
how,
to
you
know,
purchase
and
or
long-term
lease
land
to
some
of
these
businesses
might
be
involved
in
in
what
that
relocation
would
look.
G
Like
certainly
streamlining
that
you
mentioned,
I
mean
we
have
absolute
control
over
the
the
permitting
process,
and
you
know,
we've
been
very
effective
recently
at
you
know
streamlining
for
projects
that
have
a
significant
community
good.
You
know.
I'd
point
to
the
hambro
recycling
project
is
an
example
where
my
office
took
a
minor
use,
permit
process
where
we
typically
quote
three
to
nine
months
for
a
use.
F
As
a
question
david,
it
can
you
give
us
a
sense
of
the
timeline
of
how
this
it.
I
guess
it's
a
little
fuzzy
to
me
because
it
looked
like
in
the
rules.
It's
not
that
you
push.
People
out,
you
said
that
non-conforming
uses
were
kind
of
like
it
sounds
like
non-conforming
uses
are
going
to
be
encouraged
to
move.
I
guess
this
is
how
I
read
that,
but
you
know
when
you
think
about
the
timeline.
F
C
G
You
know
the
the
property
type,
and
so
you
know
focusing
on
the
mill
you
know
the
rnl
is
leasing
property
on
a
site
that
someone
else
owns,
and
so
it's
up
to
you
know
their
lease
terms
that
they're
existing
it's
up
to.
You
know
the
desire
of
the
property
owner
on
how
quickly
they
want
to
move
once
this
is
adopted,
and
you
know
what
what
the
you
know
the
city
can
influence
in
that
negotiation.
G
G
You
know
optically
that
just
doesn't
play
well,
and
so
you
know
everyone
recognizes
that
the
landowner
recognizes
that
we
we're
working
with
them
to
to
ensure
that
there's
a
you
know,
smooth
transition,
and
you
know
I
don't
know
the
timeline
specifically
for
you
know
for
any
particular
site
would
be
really
dependent
on.
You
know
a
lot
of
factors,
but
I
I
do
not
anticipate
seeing
you
know
large
scale
changes
rapidly
with
the
introduction
of
this
plan,
and
I
do
think
that
you
know
where
there
are.
You
know.
G
Some
sites
are
just
complete
vacant
parcels
that
could
be
developed
tomorrow.
Those
will
likely
be
developed
first.
Other
sites.
Have
you
know,
you
know,
challenges
that
that
are
associated
with
them.
They
either
have
you
know
contamination
or
they
have.
You
know
other
constraints
that
need
to
be
dealt
with
first.
They
have
you,
know
businesses
that
are
operating
on
them,
that
you
know
those
those
need
to
be.
You
know
worked
out
and
have
smooth
transitions.
They
have
people
who
are
living
on
them.
G
Those
issues
need
to
be
worked
out
and
have
smooth
transitions
so
so
yeah.
I
it's
not
going
to
happen
in
a
year
it
it,
you
know,
will
happen
slowly
over
time.
A
good
example
of
how
slowly
over
time
it
happens,
is
if
you
look
at
the
you
know
the
existing
general
plan,
the
existing
zoning
in
the
downtown
area,
for
example
the
commercial
central.
G
G
I
do
think
there's
a
danger
in
looking
backward
to
predict
what's
going
forward
because,
as
we
all
know
there
are,
you
know
additional
pressures
on
our
community
for
growth
that
that
weren't
there,
especially
in
the
first
part
of
the
2000s
that
we
saw
exactly
ramp
up
in
the
two.
You
know
2010
to
2020
decade
and
I
think
we'll
see
continue
to
ramp
up
over
the
next
couple
of
decades.
A
There
there's
been
some
talk
and
rumors
going
around
that,
oh,
my
god,
if
we
don't
pass
the
gateway
plan,
then
they're
going
to
come
for
development
up
in
the
community
forest
and
I
think
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
tamped
down,
because
it's
sort
of
like
a
false
narrative,
a
whole
bunch
of
the
transactions
and
the
acquisitions
that
the
community
force
and
the
city.
You
know
the
lands
that
have
been
acquired,
such
as
the
sunny
break
track.
A
The
samuels
foresight,
lima,
and
you
know,
humphreys
a
host
of
others
do
have
restrictions
on
development.
As
part
you
know
the
deed
restrictions.
So
I
think
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
talked
about,
because
it's
it's
not
true.
They
just
can't
start
moving
up
into
the
forest.
The
only
other
thing,
the
actual
core.
A
So
you
know
perhaps
there
should
be
a
conservation
he's
been
thrown
on
that
or
something
like
that
to
protect
poor.
I
mean
you
know
politically.
It
may
look
ugly,
a
lot
of
things.
Ugly,
political
things
have
happened
in
the
past,
so
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there
as
come
up
to
that
argument
about
development
in
the
community
forest,
it
really
is
pretty
restricted
from
that
kind
of
activity.
D
There
still
would,
you
know,
continues
to
be.
You
know,
opportunities
for
further
development
on
the
periphery
of
the
community
forest
and
then
the
unincorporated,
you
know
part
of
the
county
and
part
of
the
you
know
department's
focus
as
we
were
talking
about.
You
know,
reaching
the
limits
of
our
acreage
conservation
easements
as
a
as
a
tool
to
reach
some
of
those.
You
know
same
goals
and
I
think
the
department
will
continue
to
pursue
those
and,
as
we've
discussed
or
you
know,
actively
working
on
two
are
directly
adjacent
to
the
community
forest.
D
G
G
I
think
that
that
language
could
be
strengthened
in
our
update
to
the
to
the
general
plan,
and
it
strikes
me
that
you
know,
based
on
your
comment,
dennis
that
the
you
know
some
language
around,
you
know
green,
a
green
belt.
I
don't
know,
I
guess
if
it's
just
a
community
force,
maybe
it's
a
green
button
policy
or
something
that
you
know
that
really
does
emphasize
exactly
what
emily
said.
Not
only
within
our
own,
you
know
lands.
G
E
I
would
just
like
to
salute
the
effort.
I
think
there's
a
whole
bunch
to
recommend
this,
and
it's
it's
great,
that
it's
being
done.
If
you
look
at
my
inbox,
a
lot
of
people
are
really
exercised
about
this
and,
as
dennis
said,
spreading
sort
of
panic
misinformation,
and
this
is
that
I'm
just
really
happy
that
this
has
happened
and
seems
like
a
really
progressive,
appropriate
thing
for
arcadia
to
do,
and
also
just
mention.
E
B
We've
had
a
hand
raise
from
one
of
our
people
in
attendance
from
the
public
they've
been
very
patient
waiting
for
their
question.
I
wanted
to
allow
our
committee
members
to
respond
in
case
that
help
facilitate
any
further
questions,
but
I
think
it'd
be
great
if
we
could
move
to
allowing
our
attendee.
B
H
Good
morning
my
name's
david
winkle,
I
am
the
plant
manager
for
rnl
lumber
company.
We
have
I'm
going
to
first
specify
I'm
not
related
to
rich
winkle
wanted
to.
We
first
of
all
I
do
know
mike.
I
know
dave
recently,
we've
been
meeting
he
mentioned
and
then
dennis
and
I
went
to
humboldt
state
together
same
time.
So
I
do
know
three
of
you
and
and
I
enjoy
working
with
all
of
you.
H
My
personal
background,
I'm
born
and
raised
in
arcade
of
blue
lake
area
with
arcata
high
and
humble
state,
so
I'm
I'm
a
local
and
my
whole
family
background
has
been
in
the
lumber
industry
since
the
40s.
So
I
enjoy
it
and
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
arcata's
approach
to
the
management
of
their
forests
and
we're
we're
honored
to
be
a
part
of
of
that
and
being
a
customer
of
yours
so
and
I
enjoyed
the
working
relationship.
H
One
of
our
three
main
concerns
with
the
project
is
safety
for
our
employees
and
our
company
security
and
liability,
of
which
we
have
not
had
a
lot
of
issues
with.
We
have
a
homeless
encampment.
That's
back
to
the
right
of
the
the
new
gateway
project.
We
have
not
had
a
lot
of
issues.
We've
they've
been
generally
respective
of
not
walking
through
our
operation
during
operating
times,
and
our
operating
times
are
six
in
the
morning
to
approximately
four
in
the
afternoon
monday,
through
friday,
and
occasionally
we
operate
on
saturdays.
H
When
the
market
is
strong.
You
know
we
do
work
some
overtime
on
saturdays,
it's
you
know,
people
entering
our
property
when
we're
operating
and
we're
not
operating,
but
mainly
when
we're
operating,
because
we
have
large
equipment.
We
have
loaders
and
helio
booms,
and
you
know
it's.
You
just
can't
see
everybody
that's
walking
through
there
when
we're
in
full
production
mode.
So
we
have
recently
experienced
some
break-ins.
H
We
kind
of
anticipated
that
was
going
to
happen
with
the
movement
of
the
rvs
out
on
small
boulevard,
they've,
actually
cut
holes
in
our
fence
and
come
in
I'm
not
saying
they
mean
the
people
in
those
rvs.
Somebody
has
we.
We
have
not
been
able
to
fine-tune
or
fine-point
who
that
is,
and
we
don't
think
it's
the
people
that
are
out
there.
H
We
think
it's
someone
that's
driving
up
on
samoa
boulevard
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
taking
lumber
and
exiting
so
we
we
know
that
that's
part
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
to
deal
with
and
we
talked
with
the
city,
police,
department
and
they're.
You
know
they're
doing
a
good
job
patrolling
so,
but
back
to
our
secure
security
issues
and
our
liability
are.
H
We
have
tried
to
come
up
with
some
ways
to
to
secure
the
property
without
having
to
you
know,
spend
an
additional
amount
of
money
for
building
fences
and
things
like
that
around
the
property.
So
with
that
I
did
not
see.
I
have
not
read
the
report.
I
would
like
to
get
a
copy
of
it
and
I
did
not
see
anything
that
addressed
that
those
issues
and
the
index
briefly
looked
at
it
and
I'm
not
expecting
any
answers
right
now.
I'm
just
wasting
our
concerns.
H
I
have
been
working
closely
with
dave
about
relocating
and
we're
very
encouraged
that
that's
going
to
happen
within
the
next
couple
years.
We,
our
timeline,
would
be
a
minimum
of
two
years.
We
believe,
but
we
have.
You
know
we
could
speed
that
up
with
with
some
additional
outside
help
the
owners
of
our
company,
one
of
what's
going
to
try
to
be
on
the
call
this
morning.
But
something
came
up.
The
one
is
in
santa
rosa
and
the
other
ones
in
concord,
and
they
are
mainly
they're
our
customers.
A
A
B
A
Okay,
great
and
david
loya,
I
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation
and
the
hard
work
that
you
and
your
staff
have
put
into
this.
Quite
frankly,
after
hearing
from
dave
winkle,
I'm
I'm
gonna
sleep
better
tonight,
so
I
really
appreciate
it
and
that
you
and
rnl
have
been
so
proactive
in
addressing
you
know
the
potential
concerns
that
you
know
the
community
would
have
in
the
forest
management
committee
in
the
city.
Regarding
you
know
a
place.
A
G
Yeah,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
this
morning.
It's
been
a
great
conversation.
I
think
we've
got
some
some
ideas
for
how
to
improve
the
document,
and
you
know
I
owe
it
to
the
the
great
team
that
I'm
working
with
the
that
the
good
work
that
we're
doing
and
to
the
community.
You
know
input
that
we're
receiving
as
well.
There's
a
lot
of
really
great
conversations
going
on
around
this.
G
A
B
D
And
just
for
some
background
from
par
infinity
reached
out
to
the
environmental
services
department,
this
fall
and
caleb
will
touch
on.
You
know
their
hopes
both
for
you
know,
opportunity
for
management
of
existing
disc
golf
holes
that
are
on
the
community
forest
property,
and
these,
were
you
know,
developed
when
the
property
previous
to
city
ownership
and
so
looking
for
opportunities
for
refining
those
as
well
as
caleb,
can
touch
on.
I
Okay,
yeah,
so
just
a
little
bit
of
background,
I
guess
about
par
infinity
is
probably
apropos
at
this
point.
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
is
sort
of
up
to
speed
on
what
we're
about
and
our
history,
we
are
a
a
nonprofit,
disc,
golf
club
that
was
formed.
Roughly
I
mean
before
we
were
an
official
non-profit.
The
club
history
goes
back
well
over
30
years
and
the
course
in
that
you
know,
is
partially
on
the
community.
Forest
has
a
similar
history
at
least
30
years
there.
I
This
go
round
with
with
emily
and
the
environmental
service
department,
because,
what's
going
to
happen,
there
eventually
is:
if
they
develop
that
property,
we
will
be
losing
a
portion
of
our
course
and,
and
that
would
be
a
few
holes
there
at
the
bottom.
If
you
have
that
map,
it's
kind
of
poles,
two
and
three
two
three
four
areas:
kind
of
that
bottom
area,
down
there,
yep
and
so
so
kind
of
just
starting
the
conversation
with
the
city
to
see.
I
If
we
can
kind
of
solidify
our
partnership,
there
figure
out
ways
that
we
can
improve
what
we
have
existing
and
then
eventually,
if
that
property
does
get
developed,
we
will
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
a
new
plan
and
possibly
some
redesign
and
develop
some
new
holes.
If
we
want
to
keep
an
18-hole,
disc
golf
course
in
the
community
for
us
slash,
hsu,
cal,
poly
property,
I
think
that's
obvious
for
us,
that's
obviously
what
we
would
like
to
do.
We
want
to
keep
an
18-hole
disc
golf
course
or
more.
I
You
know
they
advertise
it
in
their
general
catalog
as
being
you
know
a
course
that
they
have,
which
is
you
know,
sort
of
a
misnomer,
because
they've
really
done
nothing
but
have
the
space
for
that
to
to
live
on,
which
you
know
is
a
huge,
obviously
a
huge
deal
but
anyways.
That's
aside,
so
just
looking
to
form
that
partnership
and
talk
about
you
know
how
we
can
do
that
and
how
our
course
could
you
know,
evolve.
I
I
I
For
that
and
it's
sounding
like
you
know,
we
still
have
some
time
here
to
figure
out
our
game
plan
and
and
what
we're
going
to
do
moving
forward,
so
that
that
gave
me
a
little
bit
of
relief,
because
I
I
was
expecting
kind
of
a
shorter
timeline,
but
it
sounds
like
for
him.
You
know
he's
sort
of
uncertain
on
the
timeline,
but
it,
but
it
seems
like
we
have.
We
do
have
some
time
to
figure
out
and
get
all
of
our
ducks
in
a
row.
I
So
I
think
that
there's
sort
of
two
two
parts
to
this
you
know
one
is
we.
I've
talked
to
emily
about
also
getting
an
mou
with
the
city
of
arcata
and
I
think,
that's
kind
of
more
a
near-term
goal
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
are
establishing
that
relationship
in
a
more
substantial
way,
so
that
you
know
we
say
here's
what
we're
doing.
Here's,
what
you've
agreed
to
allow
us
to
do.
You
know-
and
we
have
some
some
substance
to
that
relationship.
I
E
A
Okay,
so
first
off
caleb.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
presentation,
and
I
support
you
know
disc
golf.
You
know
up
in
the
community
forest.
I
think
it
is
totally
in
line
with
one
of
the
the
objectives
and
one
of
the
management
features
of
the
community
forest
is
to
help
provide
recreational
opportunities
for
the
community,
and
so
I'm
I'm
so
supportive.
I
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
a
big
part
of
it
is
the
legacy
course
that
we
have
there
now.
You
know
the
the
ideas
we
want
to
keep
as
much
of
that
course
intact
as
possible.
There's
a
ton
of
history
there
with
our
club
with
the
community
with
the
greater
disc
golf
community.
You
know
people
travel
from
all
over
the
world
to
play
certain
holes
on
this
course.
It's
a
world
renowned
course.
You
know,
so
we
want
to
keep
keep
as
much
of
the
existing
course
as
we
can.
I
So
I
think,
moving
off
of
that
area
entirely
is
not
the
idea.
It's
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
continue
to
to
use
that
area
and
and
and
sort
of
add
a
few
holes
to
to
replace
the
ones
we're
losing
is
our
is
our
goal,
our
hope.
So
we
would
love
to
explore
other
areas
as
well
if
they
were
presented
to
us,
but
but
that's
the
main
goal
for
this
area.
E
So
I've
got
a
couple
of
comments.
One
is
that
you
may
or
may
not
know
that
the
six
rivers
national
forest
is
in
the
process
of
figuring
out
how
to
move
their
staff
to
the
road
sciences
lab
as
six
rivers
and
rsl
have
both
downsized
and
six
rivers
wants
to
get
out
of
there
very
expensive
lease
in
eureka,
so
that
would
introduce
some
additional
potential
conflicts
or
at
least
some
parking
squeeze
in
that
area.
Yeah.
I
We
we've
we've
had
a
pretty
good
relationship
with
rsl
through
the
years.
Occasionally
some
parking
issues
come
up.
Disc
golfers
in
general
know
that
they
are
not
allowed
to
park
in
that
lot.
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
permitted
and
monitored
lot,
so
you
know
any
any
disc,
golfers
parking
there
get
ticketed
and,
and
so
we've
had
a
pretty
pretty
good
track
record
with
them.
As
far
as
that,
lock
goes.
Thankfully,.
E
Yeah
and
I
I
worked
there
for
a
number
of
years
and
we
always
felt
that
the
the
golfers
were
very
respectful
and
no
no
no
real
trouble
came
up
other
than
sometimes
the
dumpster
was
overflowing,
with
beer
cans
right,
but
anyway,
not
not
a
very
reversible
impact.
But
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
bring
up
is
what
I
think
is
a
best
practice.
A
lot
of
the
holes
are
get
get
trampled
and
it
becomes
bare
ground
and
that
impacts
the
forest.
I
I
We
can
kind
of
get
that
document
going
again
if
need
be,
but
I
think
with
disc
golf,
we
sort
of
end
up
with
what
we
call
islands
and
trails
kind
of
concept
which,
oddly
enough,
there's
a
there's,
a
fella
who's
living
down
on
the
property.
The
other
foresight,
property
in
question
he's
a
living
in
the
woods
there
and
he's
sort
of
done
this
organically
on
his
own
in
that
area.
I
don't
know
if
you've
been
in
that
area
at
all.
I
There's
like
these
sticks,
where
he's
just
like
creating
these
kind
of
islands
and
defining
trails
using
sticks
and
and
that's
oddly
enough,
exactly
kind
of
our
our
concept
and
what
we
would
like
to
see
for
a
majority
of
the
course
there,
and
that
would
allow
for
more
protected
areas
where
we
would
have
that
litter
layer
more.
You
know
a
deeper
litter
layer
and
then
defined
trails.
I
Obviously,
people
are
going
to
go
off
those
defined
trails
to
play
their
shots
and
whatnot,
but
at
least
you
have
you
know
you're
directing
people
and
and
minimizing
the
impact
rather
than
having
it
so
much
spread
out.
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
main
concepts
we
have
talked
about
the
issue.
I
think,
with
with
that,
fella
is
he's.
You
know
he's
bringing
in
logs
from
other
areas
of
the
forest
to
that.
I
So
that's
kind
of
a
problem,
but
we
we
would
have
to
figure
out
how
to
you
know,
what's
going
to
be
appropriate
materials
to
create
those
pathways
on
the
disc
golf
course.
What's
the
appropriate
material
to
use
for
the
litter
layer
obtaining
that
kind
of
stuff?
Obviously
that's
stuff.
We
can
talk
about
down
the
road,
but
that's
definitely
on
our
radar.
I
We
had
an
issue
on
the
course
with
a
bunch
of
material
that
was
placed
on
the
log
deck
it's
up
on
full
on
trail,
three
and
a
half
north
of
trail.
Three
at
one
point,
there
was
a
huge
pile
of
like
wood
debris
placed
there
and
we
have
this
whole
back
and
forth
about
whether
we
could
spread
that
or
not
there's
a
bunch
of
nauseous
weeds
in
it,
etc.
Ultimately,
that
got
spread
up
on
the
course.
I
E
F
Good,
so
thanks
caleb-
and
I
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
these
islands
approaches-
I
have
noticed
that
as
I've
walked
there
and
I
I
didn't
know
that
it
was
well.
I
didn't
know
that
that
this
was
kind
of
uncoordinated.
I
guess
until
recently
that
it
was
one
person
just
kind
of
moving
stuff
around,
but
I
do
think
it's
effective.
F
Spread
of
people
over
a
really
big
area
creates
so
much
more
impact
than
you
know
having
people
kind
of
like
routed,
and
I
do
think
those
islands
do
a
pretty.
It
looks
it's
a
cool
idea-
that's
not
like
intrusive
for
for
the
golfers
anyway,
so
I
I
encourage
you
to
keep
pursuing
that.
I
had
a
question
about
whether
you've
been
actually
talking
with
cal
poly
about
you
know
long
term.
If
they
see
any
potential
for.
I
Yeah,
so
another
question
on
my
notes
here
was
to
actually
ask
you
all.
If
there
I
I,
I
had
a
contact
at
cal
poly
years
ago
and
we
had
sort
of
arranged
to
build
our
tea
pads
back
there
and
been
given
the
go
ahead
to
do
that,
and
I
had
someone
in
their
environmental
services
department
as
a
contact,
but
I
have
since
lost
contact.
We
haven't
talked
to
cal
poly
in
in
years.
F
D
I
Yeah
and-
and
I
think
you
know
I
kind
of
briefly
mentioned
it
earlier-
on
and
sort
of
in
a
in
an
off-the-cuff
way,
but
I
think
you
know
we
we've
built
something
on
their
property
and
they
recognize
it
as
a
thing,
but
we
don't
have
any
formal.
You
know
contact
or
arrangement,
you
know,
and
so
I
think
getting
getting
in
good
standing
with
them
and
making
sure
that
we
have
an
understanding
with
them
about
what's
going
on
and
then
planning
for
the
future
is
definitely
important.
I
I
think
it's
a
huge
asset
for
it
for
the
university
and
something
that
they
can
use
a
little
bit
more
to
their
advantage
than
they
are
currently
and
then,
if
they
can
help
us
out
in
any
way.
So
that
would
be
awesome
as
well.
So
I
think
I
think
yeah,
that's
definitely
a
partnership
that
we
need
to
be
looking
into
as
well,
and
it's
on
my
radar
certainly.
B
A
C
B
I
Mostly
yeah,
I
think
there
would
be
a
section
if
we
were
going
to
connect
the
course
and
there's
hole.
Nine
is
one:
that's
you
know.
We've
addressed
as
kind
of
a
problem.
Again
this
course
was
built
sort
of
before
anyone
was
thinking
about
safety,
or
you
know
there
was.
There
was
three
four
five,
maybe
ten
people
playing
the
sport
at
that
time.
You
know
we're
not
talking
we're,
not
thinking
about
safety
or
trails
or
anything
so
hole.
9
is
one
that
we've
identified
as
as
kind
of
the
most
risk.
I
You
know
whole
on
the
course
that
would
be
one
that
we
would
be
looking
to
remove
in
our
sort
of
ideal
scenario.
We
would
we
would
drop
down
from
8m
into
the
valley
behind
and
and
then
play
down
through
into
area
one
that
would
be
our
ideal
area
to
develop.
It
would
help
us
with
course,
flow
connect.
The
course
from
the
front,
as
you
notice
there's
a
front
in
the
back
there's
kind
of
two
sections,
and
as
it
is
now,
you
kind
of
have
a
long
walkout.
I
If
we
were
able
to
develop
area
one
that
would
allow
us
to
sort
of
connect
the
course
into
a
complete
18-hole
loop,
and
it's
it's
really
a
nice
area,
whether
or
not
hsu
is
going
to
be
amenable
to
us
developing.
That
area
is,
you
know,
obviously,
to
be
determined,
but
that
area
kind
of
in
order
to
connect
the
two
would
would
incorporate
a
portion
of
the
community
forest
property
kind
of
just
below
full,
eight
and
nine's
t
so.
B
B
Looks
to
be
on
the
recent
arcade
lima
purchase
the
lima
20..
Now
that
area
had
recent
timber
harvest
management
activity
in
it
prior
to
the
city's
ownership
on
it
and
is
in
planning
wise.
There
shouldn't
be
any
additional
horses
and
stuff
like
that.
So
that
was
only
my
two
comments
and
just
kind
of
seeing
if
you
had
a
preference
on
your
areas,
one
and
two
area,
two
to
me
seems
a
little
yeah.
B
I
Our
first
priority
would
be
area
one
for
some
of
the
reasons
that
we
mentioned,
and
we
have
you
know
we've.
We
obviously
consider
the
impacts
that
we
have
there,
understanding
that
that
is
a
an
older
stand
of
forest
and
as
far
as
sediment
and
and
riparian
you
know,
that's
also
been
taken
into
consideration.
Luckily,
fern
lake
is
a
giant
sediment
trap,
so
we
do
have
that
going
for
us
on
that
area.
I
We
also,
I
was
hoping
that
mike
belcheck
would
be
able
to
join
today,
he's
sort
of
our
oldest
disc
golf
member.
That's
still
involved
he's
a
biologist
and
he
and
I
have
walked
the
property
extensively
and
discussed
kind
of
what
would
need
to
happen
to
make
those
different
areas
work.
You
know,
and
so
we
we-
we
do
have
folks
thinking
about
these
things,
and
so,
yes,
I
think
less.
The
least
impact
obviously
would
be
area
two.
As
far
as
that's
concerned,
for
our
purposes
area,
one
is
our
ideal
scenario.
E
E
Okay,
we
might
want
to
get
those
mapped,
so
we
can
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
conflicts
with
this,
or
anything
else
really
want
to
be
careful.
Despoiling
long-term
plots
is
a
is
a
unfortunate
thing
that
happens
a
lot
of
times,
so
we
just
lose
track
of
them
and
and
then
they
get
changed
in
a
way
that
impacts
their
research
value.
I
I
On
the
mountain
bike
side,
we
did
look
at
some
area
that
would
be
kind
of
adjacent
to
their
trails,
and
this
kind
of
brings
up
another
topic
that
we
sort
of
you
know
discussed.
We
had
a
walk
through
with
emily
and
we
talked
about
areas
not
affect
you
know
crossing
over
just
trying
to
limit
crossover
with
the
mountain
biking,
et
cetera
and
trails,
etc.
I
You
know-
and
just
on
that
topic
I
think
you
know
if
worse
comes
to
worse,
you
know
disc
golf
can
be
a
multi-use
activity
and
we
can
work
with
you
know.
Mountain
biking
and
trail
use
to
some
degree.
So
I
don't
want
to
totally
eliminate
areas
to
explore
as
options.
Obviously
we're
going
to
look
at
options
that
don't
you
know,
interfere
with
those
other
activities
as
much
as
possible,
but
I
don't
want
to
totally
eliminate
those
other
options
from
our
search.
D
I
Yeah-
and
I
I've
sent
the
mou
to
our
lawyer,
who
is
just
another
disc,
golfer
and
doing
everything
very
pro
bono-
so
he's
got
that,
and
I
haven't
nudged
him
to
work
on
that,
but
it
is
on
our
radar
and
it's
something
that's
on
on.
My
short-term
goal
for
sure
is
to
get
that
in
place.
Whether
or
not
the
relocation
of
goals
takes
a
much
longer
timeline,
which
I
assume
at
this
point
will
we
do.
I
We
do
want
to
get
that
mou
in
place
and
start
working
on
the
existing
holes
and
bringing
those
up
to
speed
and,
like
emily
mentioned,
we'd
love
to
build
some
cheap
pads
to
increase
the
safety
on
those
work.
On
those
you
know,
islands
and
trails,
concepts
and
re
rebuild
some
of
those.
It's
particularly
holes,
five
and
six
seven
and
eight
play
kind
of
on
a
on
a
more
recently
harvested
property
as
part
of
the
forsyth
area.
D
So
we
really
have
right
now.
We
still
have
the
covid
emergency
declaration
in
place
that
allows
remote
meetings
to
occur
and
but
we're
it
may
occur
even
more.
As
you
admit
that
the
city
says
you
know
we
need
to
all
meet
in
person,
but
I
just
want
to
give
that
heads
up
that.
That's
what
the
council
and
planning
commission
are
heading
towards,
engage
the
committee's
interest
in
meeting
format.
E
I'm
interested
in
in-person
meetings
and
I
guess
I
don't
understand
the
I.t
requirements.
All
you
need
is
a
connected
computer
and
a
projector,
maybe
there's
more
to
it
than
that.
But
it's
pretty
simple
and
many
many
businesses
and
organizations
are
going
to
the
hybrid
format.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
with
us
for
for
the
foreseeable
future,
so
we'll
find
our
way
into
that.
A
Right
and
I'm
I'm
in
support
of
you
know
doing
you
know
face-to-face
meetings.
The
only
issue
I
have
is,
as
you
can
see,
happy
time
is
week
on
week
off.
Then,
of
course
it's
easy,
and
so
anyway,
that's
that's.
My
only
concern
if
it
is
a
simple
thing
to
do.
Hybrid
that'd
be
great
it'd
work.
Well
for
me
when
I'm
down
here
but
yeah,
I'm
I'm
all
for
it.
You
know,
as
far
as
doing
in
person
hybrid
would
be
best,
especially
if
there's
some
community
members
that
cannot
attend
in
person.
A
C
F
Yeah,
I
I
agree
I'd
like
to
meet
in
person
if
possible.
I
think
some
of
the
well,
I
don't
know
exactly
the
I.t
limitations,
but
I
think
it's
more
than
just
a
laptop.
Usually
the
hybrid
model
requires
like
projection
and
like
to
actually
integrate
people
into
the
meeting,
so
that
might
be
some
of
the
limitations
in
terms
of
I.t.
But
in
person
is
fine
with
me.
If
that's
the
direction,
we
go.
D
Great
well,
thank
you
for
that
feedback.
We'll
continue
to
meet
the
reputation
for
the
hybrid
side
conducts
you
know
that
to
be
able
to
switch
from.
What's
projected
to
you
know
the
the
committee
and
for
most
of
our
committees,
they're
just
staffed
with
one
staff
liaison,
and
that
would
be
kind
of
too
much
to
put
on
that
one
person
and
not
enough
time
for
our
it
manager
to
attend
all
the
committee
meetings.
So
you
know
we'll
see
if
we
can
work
any
of
that
out.
D
E
D
D
We
have
two
kiosks
that
are
being
planned
with
information
at
the
start
of
the
peanut
butter
and
jump
trails
and
acf
and
along
the
ridge
trail
in
sunny
bray
forest
nearing
the
downhill
trail
that
will
have
information
on
trail
rating
and
what
to
expect
for
different
levels
of
mountain
bike.
Trails
with
the
new
features
added
to
the
sunday
brave
forest
staff
is
considering
and
would
be
interested
in
the
committee's
input
on
making
that
downhill
trail
biking.
D
Only
the
high
speeds
of
that
downhill
trail
are
like
seen
as
a
concern
for
hiking
on
that
section.
There
are
kind
of
multiple
multiple
trail
opportunities
in
that
area,
and
it
is
already
signed
as
directional
just
heading
you
know
south
or
downhill,
but
there,
but
that
is
an
opportunity
to
consider
for
ensuring
safety,
so
would
be
interested
in
committee
feedback
on
that.
D
A
Yeah,
if
I
remember
correctly
this,
this
is
the
trail
that
ended
up
getting
a
lot
of
heat
when
it
was
converted
to
a
downhill
only
for
safety
reasons
to
because
there
is
a
lot
of
conflict
between
pedestrians
and
and
mountain
bikers,
and
I
believe,
if
I
remember
correctly,
this
ended
up
bleeding
some
mountain
bikers
off
of
the
main
trail
being
used
by
horses
and
pedestrians.
If
I
remember
correct
yeah.
D
A
A
I
am
in
favor
of
turning
that
into
a
bike
only
trail
and,
like
you
say,
the
construction
and
actually
the
the
steepness
of
parts
of
it
really
isn't
conducive
to
equine
and
there's
plenty
of
other
opportunities
and
trails
there.
That
are,
you,
know,
sports
and
mule,
friendly
and
pedestrian
friendly,
and
you
know
slow
speed,
bicycles,
and
so,
if
we
can
reduce
the
public
risk,
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
idea.
C
D
D
J
F
B
B
Is
the
2022
priority
track
we're
working
with
green
diamond
and
going
down
the
road
we've
used
the
ground
better,
we're
still
working
both
tracks
into
the
ntmp,
so
both
tracks
are
still
being
amended
and
that
process
has
had
no
change.
We're
just
kind
of
shifting
our
priorities
into
the
klein
laforge
track,
as
opposed
to
swainer
being
the
primary
priority.
B
So
again,
I'm
gonna.
You
know
kind
of
defer
to
mark
on
that
when
he's
ready
for
that,
but
yeah
when,
when
the
area
is
all
ready
for
a
field
trip,
I
think
we
will
reach
out
to
the
committee
and
all
you
know
public.
You
know,
however,
that
process
is
and
we'll
be
reaching
out
at
that
point
for
pre-harvest,
but
right
now
there
wouldn't
be
much
to
see
we've.
All
we've
really
kind
of
worked
on
is
the
roads.
B
I
haven't
flagged
in
boundaries,
so
it
would
be
similar
to
your
guys's
tour
that
we
just
did
about
a
year
ago,
two
years
ago
now,
where
we
just
walked
on
the
property
and
looked
around
there,
there
wouldn't
be
much
more
to
show
just
kind
of
want
to
get
it
a
little
more
ready
for
before
a
field
trip.
I
would
say.
D
D
We
also
had
a
suggestion
from
you
know,
having
a
presentation
on
carbon
projects
by
professionals
working
in
that
sector,
perhaps
reaching
out
to
andrea,
tuttle
and
would
take
you
know,
committee
interest
on
timing
for
that,
and
then
a
committee
field
trip,
it
seems
a
pre-harvest
inspection
in
july
could
be
something
that
we
could
have
on
the
radar
other
and
and
we
will
be
keeping
the
forest
management
priorities
and
maps
as
an
old
business
item.
Standing
other
suggested
topics.