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March 21 2022 Energy Committee Meeting
A
All
right
and
there's
six
good.
Well
then,
I
would
just
like
some
introductory
comments
about
our
process
tonight
like
to
thank
everybody
for
attending
and
there
will
be
multiple
opportunities
for
public
comment
and
so
we'll
be
asking
for
that
comment
on
the
different
agenda
items
and
if
you
are
logged
in
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
either
raise
your
hand
or
press
number
on
your
keypad,
and
we
also
have
made
arrangements
for
ada
accommodations.
B
D
A
Oh
so
we're
100.
This
is
great
good
appreciate
that
very
much
so
we
have
a
forum
and
we
can
conduct
our
business.
That's
good.
First
item
on
the
agenda
is
minutes.
Approval
staff
has
written
up
the
january
24th
2022
minutes
and
before
we
take
a
motion,
I
would
like
to
ask
for
a
public
comment.
Do
we
have
any
comment
on
the
draft
minutes.
B
F
D
A
Okay,
we
have
this
approval
so
with
that
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
oral
communication.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
any
member
of
the
public
to
address
us
on
matters
not
on
the
agenda.
We
have
several
subsequent
items
and,
if
you're
here
to
comment
on
those,
you
can
wait
till
those
items
are
called.
But
if
there's
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
convey
to
this
committee
not
on
the
agenda,
please
advise
staff
and
you
will
be
recognized.
A
A
B
A
G
C
Yeah
I'll
offer
I
mean
I'm
I'm
okay
returning
to
in
person,
but
I
would
you
know,
certainly
defer
to
anybody
else.
You
know
particularly
michael.
You
know
your
concerns
make
a
lot
of
sense.
So
it's
not
something
I
feel
strongly
about.
I
could
go
one
way
or
the
other,
but
I
I
have
a
slight
press
preference
for
in
person,
but
it's
not
strong
one.
I
J
I
mean
I'm
in
that
I'm
in
that
same
exact
same
category,
I'm.
I
would
be
fine
meeting
in
person
I'm
trying
to
start
to
connect
with
people
in
outside
of
the
zoom
screen
a
little
bit,
but
I
completely
understand
you
know
and
and
would
be
and
very
sensitive
to
and
respectful
of
people's.
You
know
the
the
risk
is,
I
think,
is
is
different
for
each
of
us
and
and
so
I'm
yeah.
I
I'm
I'm
fine
meeting
in
zoom.
You
know
I
I
honestly
would
prefer
to
meet
remotely.
J
A
A
Consensus
that
I've
just
heard
that
that
we
continue
with
zoom
meetings
out
of
respect
for
safety
and
health
and
we'll
and
staff.
Please
plan
on
that
for
the
may
meeting
now
I
know
that
there
are
some
there's,
an
assembly
bill,
361
and
there's
some
other
state
actions
that
require
kind
of
revisiting
this
matter.
B
Yeah,
I
can
offer
just
a
little
bit
of
perspective
if
it's
helpful.
Wetlands
and
creeks
has
also
elected
to
continue
to
meet
virtually
for
similar
stated
concerns,
so
they
are
going
to
keep
it
on
their
agenda
as
well
and
revisit
in
may,
and
probably
you
know
just
continue
to
revisit
so
that
certainly
could
work
for
energy
committee
and
I
believe,
parks
and
rec
is
in
the
same
same
situation.
So
just
wanted
to
echo
that
that
energy
is
not
unique
in
what
I've
seen
in
the
other
committees
that
I'm
liaison
too.
B
B
A
Well
good,
thank
you
for
those
comments
and
for
that
consideration
it's
not
nice
getting
old,
but
it's
better
than
the
alternative
and
safety
has
been
is
now.
Health
and
safety
are
yeah
things
I'm
having
to
pay
attention
to
more
than
ever
so
good.
All
right
now,
we're
gonna
continue
with
our
new
business,
and
this
next
item
is.
B
A
A
C
F
A
A
L
All
right,
thank
you,
chair
and
committee
members,
I'm
pleased
to
be
before
you
tonight
with
our
draft
of
the
arcata
gateway
area
plan.
I
believe
we
were
before
your
committee
last
summer
during
the
preparation
of
this
document
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
the
elements
of
of
the
community
amenities
and
you'd
weighed
in
on
that.
I
believe
that
that
is
in
your
packet
tonight,
some
of
the
content
that
came
back
from
or
the
recommendations
that
came
back
from
that
meeting.
L
But
now
we
have
the
opportunity
to
share
with
you
the
the
actual
draft
document
that
we
put
together
with
our
consultants.
That
is,
I
believe,
in
many
ways
responsive
to
what
we
were
hearing
from
the
community
during
our
engagement
over
the
last
several
years,
so
that
portions
of
that
document
are
in
your
packet
tonight.
Staff
did
its
best
to
try
and
excerpt
from
the
document.
L
The
sections
that
we
believed
were
you
know
most
responsive
to
the
the
concerns
that
you'd
raised
in
in
last
summer
at
your
last
meeting
when
this
was
taken
up,
but
I
also
have
the
the
entire
document
here
for
for
your
review.
If
there
are
other
areas
of
the
document
that
you
wanted
to
dig
into
before
I
get
to
that,
though
I
just
and-
and
I
will
make
my
staff
report,
you
know
brief
to
try
and
allow
time
for
the
the
committee
to
direct.
L
So
first,
we
have
you
know:
we've
been
bringing
this
to
the
the
committees
that
had
reviewed
it
before
and
you
know
tried
to
reflect
back
to
them.
You
know
the
changes
that
we
had
made
and
the
the
item
before
you
tonight
is.
You
know
it's
certainly
your
purview,
whether
you
want
to
take
a
formal
action
on
it.
You
know,
make
a
recommendation.
L
Many
committees
have
decided,
you
know
we're
not
quite
ready
to
make
a
strong
recommendation.
Yet
we
have
some
thoughts
and
ideas
and
there
have
been
some
straw
polls
that
have
that
we've
taken
to
try
and
you
know,
bring
together
sort
of
a
loose
recommendation
and
essentially
what
we're
doing
with
those
recommendations
is
to
you
know,
collate
them,
collect
them
and
provide
them
to
the
decision
makers.
L
As
you
know,
here
are
some
of
the
changes
that
were
recommended
by
you
know
these
various
committees
or
the
public
at
large,
and
then
staff
will
make
a
final
recommendation
for
you
know
for
what
to
do
with
those
those
suggestions,
and
so
you
know
some
have
been
really.
You
know
simple
they're,
just
you
know
clarifications.
Some
have
been
great
suggestions
for
how
to
amplify.
What's
in
the
document,
some
have
been
recommendations
for
how
to
change
the
document
and
then
others
have
been.
L
You
know
really
just
new
things
that
aren't
yet
in
the
document,
and
so
you
can
think
to
yourself.
You
know
we
can.
We
can
span
that
whole
gambit
make
any
of
those
recommendations.
Possible
question
came
up
at
a
recent
committee
meeting.
Well,
what
are
you
going
to
do
with
those
those
different
data?
And
basically,
if
it's
something
that
amplifies?
That's
something?
L
You
know,
changes
to
the
document
that
that
you
know
comport
with
what
we've
heard
previously
in
the
direct
former
direction
of
the
council,
we're
also
making
you
know,
recommendations
they
consider
those
things
that
are
going
to
result
in
you
know
balancing
priorities,
you
know
if
we,
if
we
adopt
this
recommendation,
we'll
be
not
able
to
adopt
this
other.
You
know
element
in
the
in
the
proposal.
L
Those
you
know
we're
waiting
to
get
a
little
bit
more.
You
know
policy
direction
from
the
council
before
making
formal
recommendations,
and,
in
that
case
we're
just
providing
the
the
council
with
you
know.
These
are
the
trade-offs.
This
is
the
policy
that
you
would
be
balancing,
so
that's
kind
of
the
high
level
any
questions
about
sort
of
the
super
high
level
process,
questions.
L
L
L
First
thing
I
want
to
orient
you
to
is
this
people
summary.
This
is
kind
of
a
high-level
synopsis
of
the
document
similar
to
an
executive
summary
where
the
important
person
the
executive
is
able
to
read
the
entire
document,
one
or
two
pages,
the
cliff
notes
version.
The
important
executive
in
this
instance
is
the
people.
So
we've
made
this
executive
summary
for
the
people
summary
here.
So
if
you
have
no,
you
know
no
inclination
to
read
the
entire
document.
This
is
a
great
way
to
understand.
L
Generally,
what's
going
on
in
the
document,
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
other
detail
in
here
about
how
the
plan
relates
to
other
documents
that
we
have
in
general.
This
is
a
general
plan
element,
so
it's
of
that
order
of
the
policy
document.
It's
important
to
keep
that
in
mind.
A
lot
of
people
have
read
this
and
say
hey.
I
have
questions
about
really
detailed
questions
about
x,
y
and
z.
The
detail
isn't
in
this
document.
L
L
We
catch
the
cahill
shell,
there,
the
little
cahill
shell
bump
and
then
follow
out
alliance
cut
over
around
14th
15th
street,
excuse
me
and
then
down
through
o
and
then
across
at
11th
to
q
and
that
q
street,
which
is
not
a
full
thoroughfare
all
the
way
through.
But
that's
the
the
alignment
for
q
street
forms
the
westernmost
boundary
of
the
city
there.
So
this
approximate
138
acre
area
here
is
the
gateway
area
plan.
The
other
piece
I
wanted
to
point
out
was
this
blue
line
with
the
little
zigzag
there
a
little
zigzag
there.
L
This
is
the
coastal
zone
boundary
everything
south
of
that
line
is
in
the
coastal
zone.
Everything
north
of
it
is
outside
the
coastal
zone.
So
that's
just
to
orient
you
real,
quick
to
the
plan
area,
I'm
going
to
jump
around
a
little
bit
to
the
challenges
and
opportunities,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this
section,
but
the
this
section
describes
each
of
these
different
challenge
and
opportunity
areas:
everything
from
housing
to
racial
equity,
growth,
management
to
infrastructure,
circulation,
parking
generally
outlines
sort
of.
L
The
next
section
I'll
jump
to
is
this
key
opportunity
sites
within
these
opportunities
sites.
We've
identified
these
properties
here
in
orange,
and
we've
identified,
you
know
their
acreage,
how
many
parcels
are
involved
in
each
one,
so
some
of
these,
you
know
include
multiple
parcels,
what
the
opportunities
are
in
that
particular
location
and
then
a
range
of
residential
unit
capacity
and
what
other
things
are
because
of
its
location.
L
L
L
We
don't
anticipate
that
the
market
will
drive
full
build
out
in
that
20
years.
An
analogy
I
like
to
use
is
the
plan
that
we
adopted
for
the
downtown
area,
the
commercial
core,
which
encompasses
several
blocks
around
the
plaza
here.
Approximating
this
area,
where
20
years
ago,
22
years
ago,
now
we
basically
said
hey,
look,
you
know,
four-story
buildings
are
allowed
in
this
area
and
that
didn't
relate
to
a
you
know:
wholesale
conversion
of
all
of
the
parcels
in
that
area
to
four-story
buildings
in
that
whole.
L
In
that
time
frame,
we've
had
three
structures
built
that
you
know
approximate
the
maximum
building
height,
one
fourth
story
and
two
three
stories.
So
by
way
of
of
you
know
that
analogy,
even
though
there's
lots
of
development
potential
in
this
area,
it's
not
likely
to
be
developed
out
in
a
near-term
planning
horizon.
L
I
wanted
to
jump
to
the
land
use
section
and
just
point
out
real
quick
that
the
area
is
broken
down
further
into
sub
districts,
with
different
allowable
densities
and
different.
You
know
ultimately
design
specifications
that
will,
you
know,
comply
or
adhere
to
those
those
different
districts,
the
barrel
district,
so-called
this
yellow
area
down
here,
would
have
the
higher
highest
densities.
It's
the
furthest
removed
from
other
residential
uses.
L
You
know
large-scale
residential
uses
and
provides
greatest
opportunity
with
large
vacant
sites.
The
hub
has
a
step
down
in
density,
but
also
allows
for
fairly
large
scale
buildings.
The
corridor
is
concentrated
on
commercial
uses,
commercial
purposes,
and
then
these
brown
areas
are
the
transition
district,
which
would
step
the
buildings
down
to
you
know
reduce
impacts
on
existing
adjacent.
L
Now
I
want
to,
I
want
to
say
just
real
quick
here,
because
you
know
the
terms
I'm
using
some
people
have
interpreted
these
to
say
that
you
know
hey
this
plan
is
already
you
know
the
term.
I
heard
today
left
the
station
that
this
is
a
done
deal
already.
It's
not
a
done
deal
we're
taking
input
on
this
and
we're
you
know
conveying
that
input
back
to
the
decision
makers
before
they
make
their
decision.
L
L
So
what
are
these
community
benefits?
You
know
what
does
this
look
like?
Oh,
let's
zoom
way
in,
let's
move
that
back
a
little
bit,
so
we've
right
now
put
them
into
these
various
categories:
housing
creation,
arts
and
culture,
open
space,
so
on
and
so
forth,
retail
and
job
creation,
and
at
this
level
you
know
this
doesn't
give
you
a
lot
of
detail
about
what
specifically
the
community
amenities
would
be.
L
But
these
are
the
sort
of
subject
areas
so
within
housing,
if
you
can
create
housing
quickly
or
if
you're
going
to
do,
you
know
a
certain
percentage
of
them
in
small
units
or
a
certain
percentage
of
them.
Indeed,
restricted
for
affordable
housing,
and
now
these
are
above
and
beyond
what
the
core
baseline
is.
L
You
can
see
that
within
the
active
and
alternative
transportation
we've
got,
you
know
a
lot
of
things
that
are
probably
of
interest
to
the
community.
The
committee
you
know
in
green
building
we've
got
several
that
are
probably
of
interest
to
the
committee,
so
we
can
dig
into
those
in
more
detail
if
you
want
and
look
at
how
they
comport.
With
the
recommendations.
L
The
committee
made
before
the
last
piece
that
I
wanted
to
jump
into
before
turning
it
over
and
this
is
you
know
largely
because
the
you
know
the
community
input
around
the
infrastructure,
the
existing
infrastructure,
and
then
I
want
to
sort
of
make
the
nexus
to
you
know.
The
energy
committee
here
is
that
you
know
right
now
in
our
infrastructure
and
services.
You
know
we.
We
essentially
say
that
you
know
we
want
to
you
know,
plan
you
know,
plan
for
existing
infrastructure
plan
for
future
infrastructure
that
meets
the
needs.
L
L
You
know
electrification
and
community-based
energy
resilience,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
this
out
for
the
committee
to
to
talk
a
little
bit
and
that
recently,
with
the
an
outfit
called
ecoblock
and
essentially
what
they're
doing
is
that
they're
taking
entire
city
blocks
or
you
know,
multiples
of
city
blocks
and
their
their
vision
is
to
work
with
these
multiples
of
city
blocks
and
build
a
microgrid
around
that
one.
You
know
group
of
housing
units,
and
so
the
microgrid
would
be
you
know
collectively
owned
and
operated
managed
through.
L
You
know
fees
that
come
through
the
generation,
the
money
that
they
receive
back
on
the
generation
of
power,
and
there
are
some
other.
You
know
nice
amenities
that
go
along
with
that,
including
you
know.
A
car
share
electric
car
share
that
the
all
of
the
folks
within
that
group
can
can
use,
and
so
I
can
see
a
project
like
that.
L
You
know
microgrids,
on
a
block
level
being
an
infrastructure
policy
that
we
would
want
to
add
to
the
gateway
area
plan
as
sort
of
a
pilot
project
to
do
this,
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
as
an
additional
thought
process
for
this
community.
To
consider
with
that,
I
guess
I'll.
Just
close,
I
think
I
mentioned
earlier
that
the
the
packet
has
yellow
highlighted
for
policies
that
we
felt
like
might
be
of
interest
to
you
and
I'm
happy
to
address
any
of
those
or
anything
else
in
this
document.
That
is
peaking.
A
B
I
So
when
we
are
encouraging
people
to
switch
to
electric
and
trying
to
motivate
people
to
put
solar
panels
on
their
roofs,
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
if,
if
there's
a
six
story
building
across
the
street
and
the
house
is
fully
casted
in
a
cast
in
shade
most
of
the
day,
mid-afternoon,
especially
it
would
be
nice
just
kind
of
to
bring
those
the
scale
of
the
height
of
the
buildings.
Down
for
this.
Just
for
the
solar
capacity
alone,
mckinleyville
did
a
great
job
with
their
infill
plan.
That
just
came
out.
I
It's
all
two
three
stories
and
it
fits
in
really
well-
and
it's
not
really
oppressive
to
neighboring
buildings,
bolts
and
they're,
also
not
in
a
residential
area.
But
so
that's
my
concern
as
a
loss
of
solar
access
for
some
of
these
homes
and
also
there's
not
a
lot
of
talk
about
electric
electric
vehicles.
H
I
Anyways,
those
are
two
of
my
concerns.
I
yeah
I'd
really
like
to
hear
what
you
guys
think
and
what
you
would
like
to
change
with
the
plan.
I'm
really
happy
to
see
infill
come
to
the
area,
but
I
just
think
there's
a
lot
of
concern
and
we
have
to
have
it
fit
really
well
with
what's
already
existingly
existing
here
so
anyways.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity.
H
I
share
that
with
you
tonight
that
four
out
of
the
six
committees
were
all
in
alignment
regarding
enhancing
or
supporting
alternative
transportation
as
an
important
community
benefit.
So
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
this
committee,
which
is
indeed
unique-
I
do
want
to
say
that,
along
with
this
committee,
there
was
the
transportation
safety
committee,
of
course,
but
also
parks
and
rec
and
economic
development
committee,
all
found
that
the
alternative
transportation
was
an
important
amenity.
H
So
I
just
had
been
trying
to
share
that
information
during
this
round
of
committee
discussions
because
it
seemed
noteworthy,
and
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
cool
for
everyone
to
know.
So.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
service
and
looking
forward
to
hearing
what
all
the
committee
members
tonight
have
to
say
about
where
we
are
on
the
process.
Thank
you.
A
L
C
I
I
had
a
couple
questions
that
I'll
just
throw
out
to
the
group.
I
don't
know
if
anybody-
and
maybe
I
don't
know
if
anybody
would
have
answers
to
these-
or
even
I
don't
know,
kind
of
sort
of
answers,
but
just
after
listening
to
the
public
comments,
one
of
them
regarding
solar
shading
by
all
buildings,
has
there
been
any
sort
of
analysis
of
what
sort
of
shading
would
result
on
adjacent
properties
based
on
certain
building
heights?
Has
that
ever
been
looked
at
objectively.
L
So
I'm
gonna
answer
that
in
two
parts
the
first
part
is
that
you
know
solar
shading
is
you
know
you
know
critical
importance?
Obviously
the
you
know
the
built
environment
that
results
from
this
plan
has
to
be
a
high
quality
built
environment
that
we
will
all
be.
You
know,
proud
of
and
would
appreciate
living
in
ourselves.
L
You
know
buildings
within
the
community
right
now.
The
way
that
our
code
is
written,
for
instance
in
the
downtown
it
allows
for
buildings
to
be
four
stories
tall
right
on
the
back
of
walk
and
during
the
winter
time.
For
you
know
large
part
of
the
wintertime,
what
that
means
is
that
in
particular,
during
the
you
know
early
morning
you
would
be
shading
or
mid-morning
you'd
be
shading
properties.
You
know
to
the
west
and
north
there's
not
a
whole
lot.
L
You
can
do
about
that
because
the
sun
is
so
low
in
the
early
morning
and
then
in
the
evening
you'd
be
shading
buildings
to
the
to
the
south
and
east.
Similarly,
the
sun
is
so
low
that
even
with
the
modest
sized
building,
you'd
be
and
and
setbacks
you'd
be,
you
know,
shading
those
buildings,
but
then,
in
the
middle
of
the
day,
at
four
stories
right
on
the
property
line,
with
the
50
foot
rights
of
way
that
solar,
the
shading
solar
shading,
the
shadows-
that's
cast,
goes
about.
L
L
What
this
plan
does
is
recognizes
that
in
particular,
if
we're
going
to
have
many
of
these
buildings
in
a
zone,
you
know
as
theoretically,
you
could
have
in
the
downtown
right
now
that
you
need
to
take
that
into
consideration.
Solar,
shading
and
access
to
sunlight
is
really
important,
and
so
at
a
policy
level
we
say:
look,
you
know
you
have
to
do
these
step
backs
so
that
we
can
provide
for
that.
L
The
next
step,
the
next
phase
of
the
public
engagement,
we're
a
contractor
with
ghd
to
do
some
3d
gis,
modeling
and
some
sketchup
artwork
to
you
know,
give
a
sense
for
you
know
what
would
actual
you
know.
You
know
physical
buildings
look
like
on
the
ground
in
arcata.
What
would
those
you
know
you
know?
Shadow
casts
look
like
from
those
buildings
and
so
we're
actually
going
a
step
beyond
just
you
know
doing
it
in
the
abstract,
we're
actually
going
to
be
able
to
put
into
practice
what
a
you
know.
L
Modeled
shadow
study
would
look
like
on
an
individual
building
by
building
basis,
use
that
information
to
build
into
the
form-based
code
that
I'd
mentioned
earlier,
some
standards
that
would
prevent
to
the
extent
you
know
that
is
practicable.
You
know
solar,
shading
and
so
we're
trying
to
address
and
ameliorate
these
concerns.
L
G
I
have
a
comment
on
that.
Also,
I
don't
know
if
it
addresses
it
very
well,
but
one
thing
to
pay
attention
to
is
the
amount
of
sunlight
striking.
This
area
is
not
going
to
be
reduced
by
the
buildings
being
there,
but
what's
going
to
happen,
is
that
the
sunlight
is
going
to
hit
the
buildings
instead
of
the
residences.
So
I
wonder
if
there's
any
way
that
the
buildings
could
generate
electricity
and
share
that
with
the
residents
who
are
being
deprived
of
their
access
to
solar.
C
You
know,
I
think
one
other
point
of
clarification
and
if
patricia
would
be
interested
in
weighing
in
on
this,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful,
but
you
know
my
my
initial
question
was
in
response
to
patricia's
comments,
and
one
point
of
clarification
that
I
think
just
is
is
coming
out
a
little
bit
in
the
last
couple
minutes
of
discussion,
the
term
in
terms
of
solar
access
that
term
solar
access.
You
know
in
my
mind
that
could
mean
two
different
things.
One
of
them
is
electricity
generated
by
the
sun
or
other.
C
C
C
L
Yeah,
no,
that
that's
a
really
good
point.
I
think
that
you
know
I
can't
give
you
a
universal
statement.
The
idea
is
to
try
and
ameliorate
that,
to
the
degree
that
we
can
with
design
will
a
building
ever
cast
a
shadow
on
another
building
in
the
future.
The
answer
is
absolutely
yes.
Will
you
have
unfettered
access
to
sunlight
whenever
it
happens
to
be
shining
throughout
the
entire
year?
The
answer
is
really
no.
L
You
know,
shadows
that
are
cast
during
you
know,
portions
of
the
morning,
even
without
you
know
relatively
large
stature
buildings,
you
know
two
three-story
building
is
going
to
cast
pretty
long
shadow
during
those
points
and
times
so
we
will
have
more
information
on
that.
We'll
have
more
detailed
information
on
that.
Certainly,
you
know
as
this
process
progresses,
but
we're
gonna
do
what
we
can
to
ensure
that
you
know
there
is
solar
access
right
now.
L
I
I
don't
think
that
we're
we're
not
we're.
Never
gonna
have
a
development
that
doesn't
have
impacts
on
other
existing
developments
around
it.
You
know,
I
mean
part
of
part
of
having
something
new
come
into
the
community.
There's
going
to
be,
you
know,
pros
and
cons
to
you
know
all
the
various
things
that
that
make.
You
know
your
experience
of
your
living
space.
What
it
is
today.
B
I
K
I
Garden
and
love
sitting
on
the
front
porch
in
the
sun,
it
that
is
definitely
a
concern
as
well,
so
not
just
the
shading
of
our
rooftops,
but
you
know
for
energy
consumption
too.
Just
you
know
if
our
house
is
mostly
in
the
shade
most
of
the
time,
so
I
guess
you
know,
I
think
when
the
plan
first
came
out,
it
was
more
around
three
four
stories
and
that
would
you
know
was
totally
acceptable
to
me
and
it
seemed
very
reasonable
to
most
of
the
community
and
then
now
we're
talking.
I
Stories-
and
I
know
there's
a
community
garden
that
would
be
backed
up
right
against
the
line.
That
would
could
possibly
be
eight
stories,
so
you
know
they're
right
on
the
fence
line
there.
So
so
I
would
like
maybe
to
hear
a
little
bit
of
clarification
of
when
those
setbacks
to
the
buildings
would
actually
start.
Would
it
start
at
two
stories?
Would
it
start
at
three
stories?
Would
it
start
at
four
stories?
I
We
haven't
heard
a
lot
of
clarification
with
that,
and
I
always
assumed
there'd
be
apartments
in
this
area
and
especially
across
the
street,
for
me,
and
and
would
welcome
that,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
we
could
get
back
down
to
three.
Four
stories
like
at
like
mckinleyville
did,
and
I
think
it
would
guarantee
and.
H
I
Put
the
higher
buildings
outside
of
the
residential
existing
buildings
excel
existing
area,
and
if
we
did
taller
buildings
like
that
were
outside
of
that,
that
would
be
great
but
anyways.
That
was
my
concern.
I
just
kind
of
would
like
clarification,
a
window
set
backstop
start
and
if
it's
ministerial,
is
it
going
to
be
amenity
that
they
get
to
step
back
when
they
step
back
or
you
know
so,
would
it
be
really
clarified
like
a
building
would
have
development
would
have
to
be?
I
J
This
is
all
just
the
zoning
code
and
then-
and
this
would
allow
somebody
to
then
design
a
building
that
fits
within
this
code
right.
You
should
call
it
a
form
based
code,
so,
but
I
guess
I'm
just
curious
if,
if
that
is
if
that,
in
fact
is
true
that
over
time,
the
the
number
of
stories
has
has
risen
and
also
just
kind
of
interested
to
understand
what
what's
driving
that
you
know
are
there
are
there.
J
You
know
certain
number
of
housing
units
the
city
needs
to
needs
needs
to
meet
in
a
certain
amount
of
time,
and
you
know
I
I
mean
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
to
me
anyway,
and
probably
pretty
clear
to
most
people
that
you
know
the
whole.
The
impetus
for
for
for
infill,
like
this
and
and
kind
of
building
up
rather
than
out,
is
that
it
it.
J
You
know
it's
it's
the
alternative
to
to
sprawl
and
build
it
in
our
open
space,
and
I
think
you
know
most
peop
most
of
the
folks
in
our
community.
I
think,
would
be
very
much
in
favor
that
you
know
that
said
I
I
can't
understand
how
somebody
who
has
a
house
across
the
street
and
says:
oh,
my
god,
there
could
be
a
seven
or
eight
story
building
across
the
street
from
us.
In
a
couple
years
would
you
know
is
going
to
feel
some
concern.
J
L
I
can
try
and
address
that,
and
that
was
you
know
very,
very
great
synthesis.
I
think
of
of
a
lot
of
the
process
that
we've
gone
through
to
get
to
where
we're
at
with
this
proposal
in
relation
to
you
know
how
we
grow
and
develop
in
the
future,
so
it
started
initially.
You
know,
we've
been
having
this
conversation
for
quite
some
time
now,
and
it
really
started
with
a
recognition
that
we
are
running
out
of
housing
stocks.
L
So
all
of
the
properties
that
are
zoned
residential
within
the
city
of
arcata,
you
know,
we've
we've
basically
been
you
know
every
you
know
long-range
planning,
cycle
or
housing
element
cycle.
That's
come
up.
We've
just
reused
that
existing
housing
stock
and
the
for
the
vast
majority
of
that
housing
stock
was
identified
and
developed
back
in
the
50s
cities
gone
through
a
couple
of
annexations
and
annexed
some
properties
that
had
you
know
some
development
potential
on
them.
L
We've
also,
you
know,
had
you
know,
stock
residential
zoning
on
on
the
books
for
quite
some
time
that
just
hasn't
been
built
out
and
slowly
over
that
70-year
period.
We've
gotten
to
the
point
now
where
we
have
about
230
units
of
housing
left
in
residential
zoning,
and
so
our
current
regional
housing
needs
allocation
under
a
current
housing
element
cycle
requires
that
we
show
that
we
can
build
out
610
units,
so
we're
about
a
third
of
the
way
there
with
our
existing
housing
stock.
And
so
in
order
to
get
a
certified
housing
element.
L
So
taking
all
of
that
into
consideration
hearing
what
we
were
hearing
from
the
community
about
the
need
for
housing,
and
that
was
the
single
highest
priority.
We
started
talking
about
in
around
2017
a
housing
strategic
plan
and
in
fact
I
think
it
was
michael
winkler
who
was
listening
to
the
presentations
where
we
were
talking
about.
You
know
all
these
housing
policies,
but
we're
also
talking
about
you,
know
mixed
use
and
the
the
need
to
you
know,
drive
jobs
and
this
sort
of
thing
and
he
asked
the
question.
L
You
know
policy
ramifications
of
growth
and
development
within
that
area
into
consideration
through
that
public
engagement,
as
we
were
going
through
that
process
trying
to
identify
you
know,
what's
the
most
importance
to
people,
you
know,
should
we
be
expanding
onto
the
you
know,
green
fields
on
the
bottoms
or
you
know,
do
we
concentrate
in
field
development?
How
much
do
we
concentrate
in
field
development?
Do
you
want
to
see
adus
accessory
dwelling
units?
Do
you
want
to
see
you
know
large-scale
multi-family
buildings?
Do
you
want?
L
You
know
we
went
through
this
whole
process
and
a
lot
of
it
really
drove
towards
high
scale
maximized
housing.
So
what
this
draft
reflects
to?
You
is
a
first
attempt
to
convey
back
to
the
public
what
we
heard
really
emphasize
housing.
We
really
emphasized
it.
We
took
it
and
went
as
maximum
as
we
thought
we
could
possibly
go.
There's
allowance
for
eight-story
buildings
in
this
plan
and
we
reflected
that
back
to
the
community
and
now
we're
getting
the
community
feedback
on
well,
you
know,
maybe
eight
stories
is
a
little
too
big.
L
I've
heard
this
from
a
number
of
people.
There
are
very
few
minority
of
the
people
who
say:
eight
stories
isn't
big
enough.
The
vast
majority
of
people
are
saying
a
stories
is
too
big,
so
we're
taking
that
we're
integrating
that
into
our
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
the
planning
commission.
There
was
never
a
time
when
we
came
out
and
said
you
know
hey.
Should
we
do
four?
Should
we
do
five?
Should
we
do
six
and
we
kept
ramping
it
up?
We
took
all
the
conceptual
data
that
we
got.
L
We
took
all
the
conceptual
information
that
our
feedback
on
the
conceptual
models
that
we
were
using
and
we
built
that
into
this
first
plan,
which
proposes
eight
seven
six
five
stories
as
the
max.
It
also
requires
in
most
districts
that
you
have
a
three-story
minimum
and
in
some
that
you
have
a
two-story
minimum,
so
we're
using
both
minimums
and
maximums
to
drive
investment
in
housing
development.
L
So
I
I'm
probably
starting
to
wander
a
little
bit,
so
I'm
gonna,
I
think
I'm
just
gonna
stop
and
ask.
Does.
Does
that
kind
of
address
your
question?
I
think
all
of
these
things
really
are
policy
balancing.
You
know
if
we
reduce
the
size,
the
height
of
the
buildings,
then
that
means
that
we're
going
to
provide
less
into
the
future
and
it
might
mean
we
have
to
make
more
dramatic.
J
Can
you
I
I
just
one
other
question:
thank
you
for
that.
That
was
that
was
helpful.
Can
you
say
a
little
something
about
the?
I
think
you
were
saying.
You
know
that
that
if
so
you'll
once
you
have
a
plan.
Obviously
it's
still.
You
know
it's
still
in
process,
but
let's
say
the
plan
gets
gets
finalized
and
the
council
adopts
it,
and
so
you
have
this
new
form-based
code.
J
I
think
he
called
it
streamlined,
permitting,
maybe
or
streamlined
approval,
and
I'm
just
curious
how
like
how
that
I
guess
a
little
bit
about
what
that
means
and
how
that
relates
to
something
like
say,
sequa
or
you
know
how
how
maybe,
how
it
relates
to
what
it
would
be
like
for
a
developer
that
was
just
putting
in
a
new
a
new
multi-family
housing
unit,
and
it
was
wasn't
meeting
foreign-based
code
or
these
community
things.
How
about
that?
How
that
process
differs.
L
Right
now.
You
know,
if
you
you
know,
if
you
wanted
to
build
a
four-story
building
in
the
downtown
you
basically
for
the
most
part.
Unless
there's
something
unique
about
the
project,
you
need
to
do
a
design
review
process,
so
you
would
go
through
design
review
typically,
that
scale
of
building
would
go
through
a
planning,
commission
design
review
and
that's
a
you
know,
a
public
hearing.
L
Those
are
you
know
under
our
current
codes,
those
are
kind
of
one-off
decisions
that
are
made
on
a
project-by-project
basis
and
there's
really
no
integration
between
the
you
know
the
amenities
that
we
get
as
conditions
of
approval
through
that
process.
There's
no
master
planning
process
associated
with
that
and
they're
really
limited
to
just
things
that
are
directly
related
to
that
project,
where
there's
a
nexus
and
a
proportionality
to
that
approval.
L
L
Part
of
part
of
the
reason
why
we're
doing
it
this
way.
The
reason
why
it's
structured
this
way
is
because
you
know
we
went
through
the
the
village
project,
which
was
you
know,
as
many
of
you
may
remember,
a
private
purpose-built
student
housing
project
that
was
looking
to
rezone
the
craftsman's
mall
area
and
then
bring
four-story
buildings
to
that
craftsman,
mall
area,
it's
going
to
provide
800
beds
of
housing,
and
basically
you
know,
four
or
five
or
six
design,
iterations
later
and
17
to
20
public
hearings.
L
Later
from
the
time
when
they
first
went
to
public
hearing,
no
one
was
satisfied.
They
wound
up
walking
away
without
an
approval.
The
community
felt
better
about
not
having
better
access
to
the
design
process
and
the
and
the
the
committees,
the
commissions,
the
council,
they
basically
you
know
had
you
know
the
community
upset
the
entire
way
through
one
of
the
things
that
the
community
asked
for
during
that
process,
or
at
least
the
ones
that
were
engaged
in
that
that
endeavor
was
more
of
a
community-based
design.
They
wanted
more
input
early
on.
L
They
wanted
the
ability
to
talk
about
what
things
would
look
like
and
what
the
scale
and
massing
would
be
that
project
the
village
project
came
in.
It
met
all
of
the
design
standards
that
the
community
has
set
out
for
projects
right
now,
and
so
the
decision
maker
looking
at
that
typically
says.
Well,
they
meet
the
design
standard,
so
we're
going
to
approve
this
project.
L
This
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
work
in
much
more
detail
with
the
community
to
find
out
what
are
those?
What
are
the?
What
are
the
amenities
that
we
want
in
our
community,
even
if
they
don't
meet
direct
nexus
with
this
project,
even
if
they
don't
meet,
you
know,
proportionality,
necessarily
most
of
the
developers
I
talked
to
said
you
know,
look
I
would
pay
more
to
come
in
and
have
a
you
know.
Sure
thing.
L
Let's
take
that
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
or
some
portion
of
it
and
invest
it
into
our
community,
invest
it
into
the
things
the
trails
the
you
know,
this,
the
you
know,
microgrids
the
you
know
whatever
it
is
that
that
makes
our
community
what
what
is
special
to
live
in.
Let's
put
that
money
directly
into
the
community
was
sort
of
the
concept
behind
this,
and
so
we're
going
through.
L
You
know
that
sort
of
project
level
review
in
a
sense
on
a
community
scale
and
a
plan
scale
review
so
that
we
can
all
weigh
in
and
say.
This
is
what
we
want
arcata
to
look
like
in
the
future
and
then
once
projects
come
in
and
demonstrate
that
they
meet
that
they
would
go
through
that
streamline
process.
So
it's
it's
not
totally.
I
mean
it's
new
for
our
area.
It's
not
totally
unique,
though
there
are
many
jurisdictions
throughout
the
state.
L
L
K
L
Yeah,
I
guess
we
can.
We
can
look
at
specific
intersections
if
you
want
to
to
to
illustrator.
If
you
have
a
specific
recommendation
where
you
think
that
would
be
most
appropriate.
I'd
be
happy
to
take
that
excuse
me,
but
what
one
thing
I
will
say
is
that
we
really
are
talking
about
increasing
the
total
number
of
you
know
the
multi-use
pads,
which
would
be
segregated
from
you
know,
from
traffic
and
also
to
increase
the
you
know,
class
two
lanes.
L
L
But
we've
we've
definitely
heard
that
before,
and
I
think
that
you
know
we've
done
a
really
I'm.
You
know
I'm
proud
of
the
work
that
we've
done
here,
that
our
traffic
engineers
have
done
here
to
try
and
create
as
many
possible
trails
and
as
safe
as
possible
trails
and
and
class
one
two
and
three
bike
lanes
as
possible.
K
K
F
L
You
know
would
provide
a
curb
separation,
so
that's
that
is
definitely
something
that's
in
the
plan
and
then
some
of
the
other
ideas
were,
to
put
you
know
those
little
plastic
bollards
that
won't
ruin
your
car
if
you
run
into
them,
but
but
give
a
clear.
You
know
signal
that
hey.
This
is
a
separate
area
yeah.
So
that's
another
alternative
as
well.
L
A
A
L
Absolutely
yeah
the
these
documents,
this
the
gateway
plan.
You
know
we're
anticipating
some
time
by
the
end
of
2022
early
23
as
when
they
would
be
adopted
sometime
well
in
advance
of
that
we're
hoping
to
get
some.
You
know
some
good
direction
from
you
know,
council
on
you
know
the
the
framework
so
that
we
can
start
building
out
the
zoning
code.
L
That'll
have
a
lot
of
this
detail
that
I
think
people
are
thirsty
for,
and
so
you
know,
I
guess
you
know
one
of
the
things
I'm
thinking
is
that
you
know
if
we
you
know,
can
continue
to
be
in
a
conversation.
Certainly
you
know
you
can
agendize
this
we'll
come
back
as
necessary
or
emily
can
convey
the
message.
If
you
have
specific
recommendations,
you
know
and
ultimately,
we'll
we'll
bring
those
back
before
the
decision
makers
before
they
finalize.
C
H
C
A
J
I
I
would,
I
would
appreciate
more
time
personally,
I
I
don't
feel
like
I've
really
taken
the
time
to
yeah,
to
delve
into
it
enough
to
make
any
informed
recommendations.
At
this
point
I
mean,
if
everyone,
if
someone
else
wants
to
put
something
forth,
I
would
do
my
best
to
you
know
weigh
in
on
it,
but
I
I
I
think
I'm
I
kind
of
feel
like
like
mike
does.
I
think
that
that
some
additional
time
would
be
useful.
F
Thank
you
same
for
me
yeah.
I
really
agree
with
that
and
also
just
want
to
focus
in
on.
You
know
the
topics
relevant
to
the
energy
committee.
There's
there's
a
few
in
the
plan
that
I
see,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
more
discussion
than
we
have
time
for
to
make
any
specific
recommendations
on
those
energy
related
elements.
E
Do
we
do
we
know
when
the
the
shading
studies,
the
shadow
studies,
will
be
complete?
I
mean
that's,
that's
really
interesting
to
me.
I
mean
I've
read
the
most
of
the
the
plan
and
I
generally
support
it,
but
the
you
know
I've
heard
the
community's
concern
about
the
shading
and
I
would
be
really
interested
to
know
what
those
shadow
studies
look
like.
L
L
E
L
So
there's
not
going
to
be.
You
know
kind
of
like
a
charette
process
where
we
say
well
what,
if
we
add
a
couple
of
stories
here,
let's
move
it
around
this
side
of
the
you
know,
property.
You
know
they
will
have
thought
through.
All
of
that
and
we'll
be
able
to
articulate,
we
can't
move
it
to
this
side
of
the
property,
because
it's
going
to
have
this
on
an
unintended
consequence.
L
We
can't
make
the
buildings
bigger,
because
you
know
this
is
the
the
you
know
typical
form
for
residential
development
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
then
we'll
probably
end
up
with
just
a
couple
of
scenarios
that
we
can
instead
of
moving
things
around,
we
could
just
share.
Like
you
know,
here's
scenario,
one
here
scenario,
two
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
B
Yeah,
the
only
question
I
would
ask
is
maybe
more
pointed
for
you
david.
Would
the
may
meeting
give
you
enough
time
to
perhaps
bring
the
solar
shading
model
results
back?
If
not,
it
might
be
worth
this
committee
waiting
until
that
is
available
and
scheduling
it
for
the
subsequent
meeting.
After
that,.
L
I
would
appreciate
input
from
the
committee
as
soon
as
possible,
based
on
what
we
have.
I
don't
know
when
solar
shading
is
going
to
be
done,
and
I
don't
know
how
relevant
that
is
to
the
committee's
decision.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
other
energy
policy.
That's
in
there.
You
know
that
that
can
be
that
we
could,
you
know,
use
it
as
part
of
that
framework
to
help
start
building
out
the
the
more
detailed
implementation
plan.
So
I
I
would
rather
get
it
sooner
than
later.
L
You
know
if
the
committee
wanted
to
you
know.
I
know
this
is
a
huge
volume
of
information,
and
you
know
I
I
get
it.
I
I
want
to
thank
you
all.
You
know
for
the
energy
and
efforts
that
you
put
into
it
and
it's
a
lot
to
grapple
with,
but
you
know
again
we're
we're
here.
Also,
you
know
our
staff
is
here
to
assist
you
as
well.
If
you
want
to
give
us
a
call
and
say
hey,
you
know
I've
been
reading
through
the
plan
and
I
have
these
questions.
L
You
talk
through
those
things
with
you.
If
you
wanted
to
set
a
subcommittee
to
work
more
closely
with
staff
to
understand
the
plan,
you
know
we're
open
to
doing
that
and-
and
I
think
too,
you
know
if
the
elements
that
do
pertain
to
sort
of
energy
policy-
that's
you
know
relevant
to
or
related
to
you
know
those
those
shading
analyses.
You
know
we
can
bring
that
back
again
at
a
later
date.
L
Yeah
I'll
put
together
some
information
for
emily
and
she
could
put
that
on
your
next
agenda.
Just
as
an
informational
item.
It's
a
really
cool
project.
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
a
pilot
project.
It's
not
ready
to
scale
up
right
now,
but
basically
their
concept
is
that
once
they
get
the
pilot
project
implemented
they're
going
to
just
open
source
the
the
documents,
so
other
communities
can
do
exactly
what
they
did.
C
L
That
is
on
our
website.
If
you,
google,
serp
s-I-r-p,
which
stands
for
strategic
infill
redevelopment
program
and
arcata
it'll,
be
the
top
hit
our
website,
our
landing
page
for
the
serp
page
would
be
the
top
hit.
If
you
click
on
that
you'll
find
links
to
the
plan.
You'll
find
links
to
the
info
market
study
you'll
find
links
to
you
know
our
frequently
asked
questions
you'll
find
links
to
signing
up
for
e-notifications.
L
A
A
I
really
would
like,
even
if
we
don't
have
the
shading
analysis,
I
would
like
to
see
us
come
together
with
some
very
clear
recommendations
at
the
main
meeting
to
really
you
know
provide
we
just.
We
need
to
be
participants
in
this
and
I
think
our
recommendations
carry
a
lot
of
weight.
I
think
the
decision
makers
want
to
hear.
A
All
right
with
that,
our
next.
Our
next
agenda
item
is
the
old
business.
Many
goals
for
22
23.
We
have,
we
have
refined
our
goals
down
to
four:
the
arcata
greenhouse
gas
reduction
plan,
climate
action
plan,
transportation,
mode
shift,
arcata
all-electric
initiative
and
explore
low-carbon
options
for
community
resilience,
and
this
is
all
prefaced
by
a
good
statement
that
staff
has
crafted
about
pursuing
these
goals
and
are
as
to
reflect
for
energy
related
environmental
justice
and
social
equity.
B
I
just
caught
george.
I
apologize,
I'm
not
seeing
one.
Oh
wait.
Yes,
I
am
the
waste
to
energy,
I'm
looking
at
the
agenda
packet
and
I'm
not
seeing
it
on
the
published
version,
but
I
am
seeing
it
on
the
separate
pdf,
sorry
to
jump
in
there.
It's
just
that.
You
said
there
were
four
and
I'm
seeing
six.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
some
version,
control
happening.
B
J
Emily
can
I
I
can.
I
could
send
you
an
email.
I
guess
I'm
wondering
I
don't
think
I
got
the
packet
this
month,
which
is
or
this
time
which,
but
it
might
have
gone
to
my
home
email
rather
than
my
work,
email
which,
which
I
never
look
at
my
home
email.
So
if
it
did
go
there,
it's
not
well,
I
shouldn't
say
never
but
seldom.
B
You
know
it's
interesting.
You
mention
that.
Usually,
when
I
prepare
for
the
committee
meetings,
I
look
to
see
the
email
that
includes
the
packet
materials
and
I
actually
didn't
see
that
email
myself.
So
I
pulled
the
online
version.
So
did
anyone
else
not
receive
a
packet?
Any
other
committee
members.
C
D
A
A
Title
24
energy
code
and
then
the
waste
energy
projects
support
projects
generating
energy
from
diversion
of
organic
waste
and
it
can
be
demonstrated
to
provide
ght
emission
reductions
and
the
air
quality
standards
so
yeah.
This
is
even
better.
That's
good!
So
any
comments
from
the
committee
on
these
six
that
we
have
been
working
with
and
then,
if
thinking
ahead,
to
whether
we
want
to
take
an
action
tonight
and
make
them
our
22-23
goals,.
J
B
But
the
city
council
does
have
a
broader
quote-unquote
electrification
initiative
that
does
include
city-owned
buildings
and
fuel
switching
and
what
have
you
so?
It
could
either
way,
but
just
to
provide
that
other
context
that
the
city
council
has
sort
of
a
more
line-itemized
initiative.
That's
broken
out
in
their
priority
projects.
J
G
E
D
B
I
think
certainly
it's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee,
but
I
do
think
that
both
of
those
would
be
captured
under
the
all-electric
initiative
umbrella,
and
I
just
say
that,
because
that
sort
of
mirrors,
what
council's
priority
project
is
so
yeah.
I
think
you
could
go
either
way,
but
I
think
that
including
it
all,
as
one
is
perfectly
adequate.
F
I
see
the
source
of
confusion,
though,
because
we've
had
this
electrification
initiative
and
a
subtask
or
project
is
a
municipal
gas
span
for
permitting
and
what
we're
calling
it
at
one
point:
it
was
an
electric
reach
code,
so
I
don't
know
if
others
will
misinterpret
that
or
if
how
we
can
clarify.
The
one
thing
I
could
think
of
is
that
we
actually
just
put
another
comma
in
this.
That
says,
including
a
municipal
gas
ban,
to
highlight
that
subtask,
as
is
something
separate.
F
I
think
we've
actually
discussed
this
before
about
whether
we
want
to
get
that
specific.
But
you
know,
because
it's
been
discussed
at
such
length
and
such
a
hot
high
priority
topic
for
decarbonization
I'm.
I
would
be
in
support
of
adding
a
another
comma
in
this
under
item
three.
That
said,
including
enacting
a
municipal
gas
van
or
something
of
that
sort.
D
C
B
C
F
A
J
Thank
you.
I
first
of
all
emily.
I
I
I
just
located.
I
don't
know
how
I
wha.
What
happened
why
I
didn't
find
see
the
packet,
but
anyway
it
did
come
to
my
email.
So
somehow
the
error
was
on
on
my
side:
apologies
yeah!
So
the
item
that
I
wanted
to
bring
is-
and
actually
I
think,
george
you
some
an
email
went
to
you,
I
believe,
and
also
to
you,
michael
and
andre
it
went
to.
You,
though,
is
your
old
email
address.
J
I
think
maybe
at
hsu
or
something,
but
it
was
a
oh.
So
it's
from
the
I'm
forgetting
the
woman's
name
now,
but
anyway,
she's
with
the
eureka
city
of
eureka,
energy
committee-
I
don't
remember
if
she,
if
she's
the
chair
or
not,
basically
she
was
reaching
out
to
us.
Actually,
my
my
the
email
didn't
go
to
me.
It
went
to
the
shot
center
and
then
it
made
its
way
to
me
and
it
is
with
regard
to
building
electrification
and
and
in
particular
reach
codes.
J
You
know,
there's
been
a
subcommittee
of
myself
and
andrea
and
and
gwellin
have
been
working
on
it
for
quite
some
time
I
mean
we've,
you
know
we,
we
passed
a
reach
code
for
the
last
building
cycle
or
building
code
cycle,
and-
and
now
we've
been
talking
about,
you
know
something
sort
of
moving
beyond
the
reach
code
to
like
a
gas
moratorium.
So
anyway,
it
certainly
seems
like
we've.
J
You
know
gathered
a
lot
of
information
and
have
have
a
sense
of
kind
of
the
lay
of
the
land
and
it
would
probably
be
useful
if
somehow
we
could
share
that
information
with
the
city
of
eureka
energy
committee,
so
they
don't
have
to
start
from
scratch
and
figure
it
out
all
the
on
on
their
own
and-
and
I
you
know-
certainly
the
the
resources
that
we've
been
able
to
use
from
you
know.
Pg
e
and-
and
the
woman's
name
is
escaping
me
now.
But
what's
that.
D
G
Well,
I
think
we
should
ask
staff
to
send
the
information
that
has
been
developed
by
the
city
of
arcata
to
the
eureka
energy
committee.
I
also
think
it
probably
would
be
worthwhile
as
long
as
the
group
meeting
with
eureka
was
less
than
a
quorum
of
the
energy
committee
to
to
answer
some
questions
that
they
might
have.
D
B
G
J
So
emily,
I
think
I
think
it
would
be
great
if,
if,
if
you're
willing
to
to
you,
know
reach
out
to
them,
I
realize
that
now
we
you
know
we
we
have,
I'm
not
I'm
not
remembering
anybody's
name,
it
seems
like
so.
I
think
I
think
I
know
all
of
your
names,
but
anyway,
our
the
new
staff
person
who's
who's,
helping
with
you
know
with
this
topic
now
as
well.
J
So
obviously
that's
you
know
you
probably
are
gathering
more
information
than
than
than
even
you
know
that
we've
been
we've
looked
at,
but
I
I'd
be
willing
at
some
point.
If
it
were
useful,
I
she
asked
one
of
the
things
she
asked
for,
I
think
was
a
was
kind
of
like
a
a
powerpoint
slide
deck
or
something
I
think
you
know
I
think
they're
just
trying
to
kind
of
understand
what
are
reach
codes
and
well
or
how
to
how
you
know
how
they
be
used,
but
they
they
did
specifically
talk
about
electrification.
J
J
Well,
I
don't
know
but
yeah,
probably
just
it's
probably
not
a
good
use
of
our
whole
committee's
time.
So
maybe
just
yeah
I'd
be
willing
to
talk
with
them.
I
know
I'm,
I
don't
want
to
volunteer
aguela
and
I
know
I
I
think
well
and
probably
of
all
the
folks
on
our
on
our
in
our
group.
I
think
well
and
I
feel,
like
maybe
has
had
the
the
strongest
handle
on
all
of
it,
but.
D
F
Happy
to
attend
if
it
works
with
my
schedule,
we
obviously
have
to
keep
the
group
small,
so
we
don't
violate
the.
What
is
it
the
prime
act?
There's
also,
you
know
the
larger.
I
think
rca
could
have
a
role
at
some
point,
especially
if
there's
other
jurisdictions-
and
there
are
there's
some
precedent
in
california-
that
some
ccas
have
actually
led
the
reach
code,
support
and
adoption
for
their
for
their
constituents
and
the
various
municipalities.
A
D
D
M
D
M
If
you
go
to
our
events
page,
it's
the
it's
a
five
five
meeting
series
and
I
think
the
next
one
is
you
see
it
was
january
february
march.
There's
still
marches
oh
march,
is
tomorrow
cost
effectiveness,
analysis
and
then,
in
april
it's
our
reach
code,
ordinance
options
and
implementation
is
the
fifth
and
if
you
register
for
it,
then
you
get
to
go
and
have
access
to
the
recording
to
go
back
over
all
of
them.
So
that
might
be
something
the
committee
would
want
to
do
on
their
own.
M
M
D
J
J
D
J
M
M
M
M
But
I'll
try
to
keep
it
really
quick.
I
want
to
tell
you:
we
have
been
consistently
added
to
our
rebate
offerings
this
one's
pretty
exciting.
I
just
published
last
week.
Is
our
commercial
rebate
catalog
again,
you
can
find
it
under
commercial
here
commercial
rebates
and
come
to
this
page
and
it's
just
pretty
straightforward.
M
The
way
we
have
it
laid
out,
I'm
still
sending
it
back
to
the
heat
pump
page
for
those
details,
but
under
all
these
different
types
of
appliances
and
things
for
the
commercial
sector,
everything
is
here
that
we
are
currently
offering.
Things
will
be
added,
of
course,
as
time
goes
on
and
we'll
try
to
update
the
website
as
they
come
up,
but
people
should
call
us
if
they
either.
M
So
those
are
a
couple
of
bigger
accomplishments.
I
think
might
be
of
most
value
to
you,
but
we
also
have
this
thing.
I
do
a
monthly
update.
We
do
a
monthly
update
now
for
our
board
and
we
just
completed
one
yesterday.
It
has
some
highlights,
including
our
microgrid,
which
is
really
coming
close.
It
should
be
operational.
Next
month
we
have
a
couple
of
storage
projects.
We've
done
rates
are
going.
D
M
Looking
for
our
money,
a
contractor
vendor
network
is
really
handy,
because
people
always
contact
us
and
say
how
you
know.
You
know
anybody
that
would
be
good
at
installing
something
for
me.
So
now
they
can
go
and
at
least
have
a
list
of
people
to
choose
from
there,
and
so
those
are
the
main
things
there.
I
want
to
tell
you
about.
We
have
a
board
meeting
on
thursday.
M
The
packet
is
here.
If
you
wanted
to
see
what
it
looks
like
a
fairly
uneventful
or
minimally
eventful
meeting
this
time
around
for
a
change
as
laurie,
it
says,
don't
say
that,
because
it'll
end
up
being
kind
of
wild,
but
anyway,
that's
all.
I
really
have
to
say.
Oh
also,
we
have
we
are
turning.
Cce
is
turning
five
this
this
year
it
was
may
1st
we
launched
our
cce
program
and
so
we're
going
to
have
a
celebration
and
we
would
love
to
have
all
of
you.
Join
us.
M
It'll
be
on
earth
day
april,
22nd
so
friday,
from
4
to
6.
I'll
be
emailing
out
invitations,
but
I
wanted
to
let
you
put
that
on
your
calendar.
If
you
want
to
come,
I
think
we're
going
to
do
it
at
the
social
club
in
samoa,
but
we're
going
to
go
there
and
kind
of
check
it
out
tomorrow
again
and
see
how
it
is
yeah.
A
G
I
have
one
that
somewhat
personal,
but
about
20
years
ago.
I
think
I
bought
the
first
heat
pump
water
heater
in
humboldt
county
and
it
died
a
few
months
ago,
and
I
have
now
replaced
it
with
this
new
prototype
heat
pump,
water
heater
produced
by
a
company
in
maine,
and
so
I'm,
I'm
learning
all
the
more
sophisticated
ways
of
using
a
heat
pump
water
heater
even
more
efficiently
than
in
the
standard
way
that
it
comes
and
eventually
being
able
to
use
one
to
help
support
renewable
energy
in
the
grid.
B
Sure
I'll
keep
it
pretty
brief,
so
one
project
that
we
have
been
moving
forward
on
is,
I
think
I've
brought
this
to
the
energy
committee
before
but
fuel
switching
the
arcata
community
center
trying
to
move
that
forward,
as
well
as
installing
solar
and
implementing
some
energy
conservation
options.
We've
been
working
with
rcea
on
all
of
that
they
provided
a
solar
feasibility
analysis
gosh,
I
want
to
say,
like
fall
of
2020,
so
that
needs
to
be
updated.
B
I've
been
in
touch
with
our
cea
staff
on,
I
think
we'll
be
meeting
soon
to
discuss
that
and
they
also
provided
an
assessment
around
conservation
measures
and
fuel.
Switching
the
overall
project
is
a
little
more
complex
than
meets
the
eye,
because
the
city
does
have
some
future
plans
to
bring
in
a
new
natural
resources
shop
into
that
general
mlk
way,
complex
and
doing
fuel
switching
would
require
some
level
of
electric
service
upgrade
probably
trenching
as
well.
B
The
solar
couldn't
offset
that
because
the
solar,
as
I
understand
it,
at
least
the
rooftop
solar,
pretty
much-
is
maxed
out
providing
for
the
ev
charging
and
the
existing
electricity
so
just
kind
of
working
through
some
of
the
logistics
as
far
as
well.
If
we're
going
to
install
or
if
we're
going
to
construct
another
building
making
sure
we
dovetail
that
with
any
electric
service
upgrades
so
that
we
can
dig
once
also
thinking
about
the
phase
out
of
gas-powered
small
tools
and
those
needing
to
be
electric
and
it
being
our
parks
and
natural
resources.
B
Shop
building
we'll
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
adequate
power
for
that.
So
anyway,
not
to
get
too
too
down
the
rabbit
hole
on
that.
But
just
really
wanting
to
illustrate
that
we're
moving
the
project
forward
and
just
kind
of
putting
the
pieces
together
around
fuel
types
and
then
bringing
in
solar
and
the
different
loan
options
is
a
little
bit
more
complicated
than
my
ebi.
But
I'm
really
excited
to
move
that
forward
and
have
the
support
of
our
cea.
B
We
have
been
also
working
with
swell
on
powerwall
installation
battery
backups,
and
I
do
believe
that
our
first
one
has
been
officially
accepted
at
100
g
street,
so
that
should
be
getting
off
the
ground.
I
would
say
in
the
coming
months,
director
stinkhorn
has
been
leading
that
project,
so
I'm
not
as
in
tune
on
the
timing,
but
it's
excited
to
see
that
effort
get
off
the
ground.
I
think
we've
been
working
on
with
swell
since,
like
2020
on
battery
backups
myself
and
emily.
B
B
Yeah,
I
should
know
exactly
what
facility
that
is,
but
I
I'm
not
positive,
and
then
myself
and
david
loya
have
been
working
regionally
with
other
municipalities
on
the
climate
action
plan.
We
expect
that
the
draft
climate
action
plan
will
probably
be
released
in
the
next
few
weeks,
so
we're
really
excited
for
that
process
to
continue
moving
forward.
B
I've
also
been
plugging
away
on
the
electrification
ordinance.
I
know
I've
been
a
bit
silent
with
the
subcommittee
and
the
reason
is
that
we
have
been
vetting
that
on
the
staff
and
city
attorney
level,
it
is
bringing
four
different
city
divisions
together
to
collaborate
on
the
real,
fine
logistics
and
nuances
of
the
ordinance.
B
So
it
does
take
a
little
bit
more
time
just
to
sync
all
of
our
schedules
together
and
work
through
some
of
the
finer
details,
but
I
am
really
excited
that
we're
building
consensus
on
the
staff
level
and
then
we
can
move
that
through
the
subcommittee
and
broader
public
process.
I
am
still
I've
had
to
release
some
of
my
my
excitement
for
moving
that
forward
on
a
really
expedited
timeline,
but
I
am
really
still
hoping
we
can
at
least
get
a
draft
first
reading
to
council
before
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
B
B
She
had
said
march
or
april,
so
I
expect
that
they
should
be
coming
out
here
soon
and
so
our
hope
was
to
really
be
able
to
look
at
those
studies,
even
though
those
aren't
required
for
the
municipal
ordinance
gas
ban
to
still
look
at
them
and
compare
to
what
we're
proposing.
So
we
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
cost
effective
the
natural
gas
ban
would
look
when
looking
at
those
cost-effectiveness
studies.
B
J
You
know
what
we
we
never
talk
about.
We
talked
about
it
long
long
time
ago
it
seems
like,
but
the
the
high
like
high
use
electric
high
use.
I
forget
what
the
right
terminology
is,
but
anyway
high
electricity
use
tax
or
whatever.
So
that's
been
continuing
to
to
be
in
place
and
continuing
to
generate
continuing
to
generate
revenue,
and
then
is
that
just
being
spent
on.
I
don't
I'm
trying
to
remember
what
you
know
where
how
that
all
landed.
B
It
is
a
general
fund
allocation
that
is,
as
I
understand
it,
how
it
was
put
on
the
ballot
so
yeah
it
is
general
fund.
I
would
need
to
you
know,
having
been
or
being
newer
to
the
budget,
I
should
say
we're
just
about
to
launch
our
next
fiscal
year.
Budget
process
and
it'll
be
my
first
time
really
taking
a
leadership
role
in
that
process.
B
In
my
new
capacity,
so
I
feel
like
I
can't
speak
as
directly
to
how
that
general
fund
revenue,
potentially
trickles
through
to
the
energy
fund,
specifically
I.e
if
our
enterprise
energy
fund
also
has
some
general
fund
revenue.
I
just
don't
have
as
clear
a
handle
on
that
revenue
stream
and
then
how
it
funnels,
through
into
expense,
knowing
that
it
is
a
general
fund
revenue.
I
don't
know
how
much
tracking
specifically
there
is.
J
J
I
don't
know
what
some
you
know
had
to
do
with
what
what
they
could
put
on
the
ballot,
and
I
can't
remember
how
all
the
things,
but
I
I
what
I
remember
was
there
was
some
discussion
and
I
thought
there
was
some
provision
for
some
portion
of
those
funds
to
definitely
be
dedicated
to
to
energy
projects,
and
and
but
I
don't
it's
not
something
that
we've
really
ever
yeah.
It's
not
like.
I
don't
you
know.
J
A
J
F
Okay,
I
I
have
some
institutional
memory
and
it's
that
we,
the
committee,
would
have
liked
to
have
earmarks
and
lobbied
for
it,
but
it
was
always
set
to
go
to
the
general
fund
and
in
the
early
days
there
were
some
energy
projects
that
this
staff
said
came
out
of
that
fund.
You
know
to
show
that
just
kind
of
feeding
back
you
know
money
came
from
energy
went
back
to
energy,
but
I
it
I'm
pretty.
G
Oh,
it
would
have
taken
a
two-thirds
vote
in
order
to
pass
it
as
a
as
a
as
this
attacks
for
a
specific
purpose,
and
we
on
the
council.
We
weren't
sure
that
we
could
have
gotten
the
two-thirds
vote.
So
that's
why
we
went
with
a
with
a
general
fund
which
only
took
a
a
simple
majority
vote
of
the
citizens
of
arcata.
J
J
G
Thank
you
so
the
the
folk.
I
think
that
the
focus
shane
brenton
and
I
worked
on
this
at
the
time
the
most
and
and
our
thinking
was
we
wanted.
Money
was
drying
up
and
we
wanted
to
find
a
way
of
especially
funding
an
energy
specialist
position
in
the
city
and
and
so
there
was
direction
from
the
council
to
try
to
use
it
that
way,
but
we
couldn't
legally
dedicate
to
that.
G
J
J
George,
you
can,
I
I'm
sorry
I
just
there
was
one
other
thing
that
just
popped
into
my
head
and
just
as
emily
was
given
this
her
staff
report-
and
I
I'm
just
wondering
if
this
could
be
a
future
agenda
item
perhaps,
but
I
I
this.
This
is
also
I've
been
with
the
energy
committee
for
too
many
years
and
this
so
this
goes
way
way
back.
J
D
B
I
don't
know
offhand
when
those
vehicles
would
be
slated
for
replacement,
but
certainly
we
do
as
part
of
again
our
annual
budget
process
identify
the
vehicle
needs
and
replacement
needs,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
convey
that
and
make
sure
that
that
is
a
consideration
when
those
vehicles
are
ready
for
replacement
that
we
shift
to
electric.
I
think
we're
really
trying
to
do
that
across
the
board
anyway,
but
certainly
I'd
be
happy
to
pass
that
along
and
advocate
for
it
as
well.
B
J
A
Okay
next
meeting
may
16
same
time
and
we'll
do
that
virtually
so
staff
will
be
sending
out
a
zoom
link
and
as
of
7
37,
this
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you
all
and
be
thinking
about
those
arcata
gateway
comments,
and
we
really
want
to
come
together
on
that.
The
next
meeting.
So
do
you
see
you
in
may.