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From YouTube: Historic Landmarks Committee Meeting June 16, 2022
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Historic Landmarks Committee Meeting June 16, 2022
A
B
B
Victorian,
transitional
and
Craftsman,
and
all
four
of
those
types
are
seen
in
the
identified
resources,
potential,
historic
resources
that
are
coming
before
you
tonight,
and
we
also
wanted
to
try
and
make
a
clear
tie
to
specific
social
and
cultural
developments
that
is
identified
specifically
in
our
context
statement.
I.
Think
that
our
consultant
had,
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
hard
time.
B
He
kind
of
cast
a
very
wide
net
intentionally,
because
some
of
the
things
were
not
necessarily
information
that
he
had
specific
local
knowledge
on,
and
that
was
where
the
subcommittee-
and
hopefully
this
committee
as
well,
will
come
in
in
applying
sort
of
a
local,
a
local
context
in
these
local
kind
of
historic
pieces.
And
this
last
item
here.
B
If
a
structure
is
of
unusual
or
special
design
character,
we
basically
left
that
one
unchanged
that
is
often
sort
of
the
aesthetic
value
of
a
structure
is
often
what
sets
it
apart,
especially
for
folks
in
the
community
that
might
not
have
a
lot
of
historic
training
and
we
didn't
really
see
a
need
to
further
refine
that
one.
But
all
of
these
suggested
refinements
are
still
in
draft
form.
So
there
will
be
opportunity
to
continue
to
alter
them
over.
C
B
The
intent
again
was
purely
to
try
and
take
a
very
cast
a
very
wide
cast
net
and
refine
it
down
to
a
list
that
the
committee
would
feel
comfortable
with.
Hopefully,
the
community
will
feel
comfortable
with
and
then
the
planning
Council
will
feel
like
they
have
pretty
broad
support
for
ultimately
adopting
and
as
a
reminder,
the
work
that
we're
going
to
do
it
sounds
like
over.
The
next
few
meetings
will
purely
be
a
recommendation
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
to
the
city
council.
B
It's
not
going
to
automatically
change
the
process
for
any
structure
and
it's
the
council
that
will
ultimately
be
required
to
do
that
policy,
balancing
and
really
take
all
different
perspectives
of
their
constituents
in
mind.
So
don't
you
know,
don't
be
too
afraid
to
really
rep
historic
Perez.
That's
why
you're
here
and
we
acknowledge
that
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
an
iterative
process.
B
So
this
is
the
other
slide
with
a
lot
of
text
and
you
don't
need
to
read
all
of
it,
but
the
intent
again
was
to
try
and
consider
how
could
we
further
refine
existing
criteria?
Beyond
these
four
sort
of
topic
types
we
had
talked
about
well
infrastructure,
you
know-
is
clearly
a
settlement
structure
from
one
of
these
four
identified
periods
in
the
city's
history.
How
many
other
similar
structures
of
that
type
exist
in
the
district
exists
in
the
city?
B
If
there
are
dozens
and
dozens,
maybe
we
can
be
a
little
bit
more
picky
in
the
ones
that
we
decide
to
ultimately
identify
on
this
list,
because
there
are
so
many
other
examples
that
we
can
really
go
for
the
cream
of
the
crop.
On
the
other
hand,
if
there
is
a
style,
an
architectural
style
that
isn't
very
commonly
represented
in
the
city
like
the
stucco
building
that
you
guys
saw
a
couple
of
meetings
ago
in
the
Bayview
neighborhood
Conservation
Area,
that
could
also
be
something
to
consider
it's.
B
You
know
General
a
new
usableness
for
our
for
our
part
of
California
and
then
condition
Integrity
quality
of
significance,
all
kind
of
speak
to
you
know
how
well
can
it
convey
the
story
that
it's
trying
to
tell?
Is
it
in
good
condition?
Has
it
been
altered?
Does
it
still
have
original
windows
original
sighting?
B
So
all
of
that
as
kind
of
a
preamble,
you
know
just
to
kind
of
set
the
stage
for
the
lens
that
at
least
on
the
subcommittee
we
discussed
in
undergoing
this
review,
particularly
for
Alex
and
Bill,
who
are
not
part
of
that
conversation.
Do
you
have
any
questions
any
thoughts
on
this?
Does
this
make
sense
to
you,
or
would
you
like
to
see
us
take
this
in
a
slightly
different
direction?.
B
B
Okay,
so
moving
forward
to
the
kind
of
preliminary
review
where
we
can
actually
talk
through
sites,
we
have
about
20
sites
to
go
through
and
about
half
of
them.
Nearly
half
about
40
were
actually
identified
already
in
Susie
van
Kirk's
1979
survey,
but
for
whatever
reason
they
have
not
yet
been
landmarks,
that's
likely
due
to
a
lack
of
interest
from
a
previous
or
present
property
owner,
or
it
may
simply
be
that
we
haven't
provided
enough
information
about
that
process
in
recent
years.
B
Any
existing
Landmark
properties
that
were
captured
in
this
survey
have
already
been
removed
from
the
list,
because
their
process
will
not
change
in
any
way.
We
are
already
considering
them
historically
significant,
there's
no
potential
about
it
and
when
projects
that
would
alter
a
structure
that
is
Landmark
come
forward,
we
have
a
very
clear
process
for
how
to
manage
that.
B
Okay,
so
again,
this
list,
whatever
list
is
ultimately
recommended
by
the
committee-
will
go
before
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
city
council.
It
will
not
immediately
change
any
procedure.
It
will
purely
be
a
recommendation
from
you
guys
as
sort
of
the
historic
experts
that
advise
the
council
and
it's
just
in
the
decisions
that
they
make.
B
So
I
broke
this
up
into
three
sections
to
make
it
slightly
more
bite-sized.
The
first
section
is
special
cases.
These
are
some
sites
that
the
subcommittee
talked
about
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
had
some
questions
for
the
broader
committee
about
you
know
how
to
handle
so
without
further
Ado,
let's
Jump
Right,
In,
okay,
so
I'm
hoping
this
one
will
be
a
good
place
to
start,
because
there
is
already
a
pretty
good
precedent
for
how
to
manage
these
structures.
B
The
historic
survey
identified
the
other
three
deadline:
cottages
on
the
Block
as
potentially
historically
significant.
They
all
are.
You
know
from
the
same
developments
era
they
all
were
developed
at
the
same
time
they
have
similar
Styles
the
fact
that
there
are
four
of
them
together
kind
of
gives
them
a
special
feel
and,
as
it
says
here
on
the
slide,
the
one
on
the
far
west
side
actually
is
an
existing
Landmark
structure.
B
C
You
could
think
of
this
as
also
the
first
subdivision
in
Arcata
or
the
this.
We
have
this
one,
the
devil
and
Cottages.
Then
you
go
over
to
the
Wagner
block,
and
so
those
are
like
the
first
two
developments
in
Arcata
before
you
got
into
you
know:
Sunny
Bray
and
sunset
all
the
all
of
that.
But
this
sort
of
follows
that
context.
As
someone
built
four
Cottages,
there
aren't
identical,
but
they're
really
close,
the
Wagner
block
has
the
same
thing.
They
have
some
that
are
pretty
identical.
B
Thank
you
and
the
Hsu
special
collections.
Library
I-
didn't
pull
them
for
today,
but
maybe
next
meeting
I
will
bring.
Them
has
some
actually
really
phenomenal
photos
of
the
barrel
Factory
and
the
creamery
building
with
these
four
houses
built
out-
and
you
know
it's
definitely
pretty-
it
was
pretty
pretty
powerful,
then
and
has
retained.
B
Has
you
know,
retained
a
fair
amount
of
significance?
So
this
is
the
first
series
of
sites
that
I
thought
would
make
sense
to
just
bundle
through
they
all
kind
of
have
the
same
story,
and
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
the
committee
for
any
initial
thoughts
or
comments.
In
addition
to
what
Alex
has
shared.
C
Well,
I,
don't
have
any
problems
with
these
I
mean
we've
always
felt
like
well,
some.
You
know
we
feel,
like
we've
always
felt
like
in
the
historic
Community
or
the
historical
site
society
that
they're
very
significant
they're
transitional,
but
they're
like
a
Victorian
Cottages.
They
have
a
lot
of
details
and
they're
very
important
and
I
know
that
they're
across
the
street
from
the
gas
place.
So
you
you
don't
they're
in
the
best
location
to
enjoy
them,
because
there's
not
anything
across
the
street
that
would
emulate
them
in
any
way,
but
they're
very
significant.
D
I,
just
concur
with
that
assessment:
I
mean
at
this
summer.
You
know,
I
mean
I,
think
the
photos
kind
of
speak
for
themselves
here
kind
of
the
Integrity
is
is-
is
fairly
well
retained.
At
least
you
can
tell
from
the
photos
anyways
and
and
obviously
they
fit
the
criteria
that
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
pure
disappearance
of
significance.
So
foreign.
A
C
B
D
C
I,
don't
have
any
and
possibly
they
would
maybe
they
would
know
it
cocoa
hollyashi
she
might
have.
They
might
have
an
idea,
because
they've
always
maintain
that
house
and
and
make
sure
it's
been
one
thing
or
another
I
remember
when
it
was
a
button
place
as
far
as
I.
Remember,
it's
been
there
for
a
long
long
time,
but
you
have
Holly.
Ashi
is
a
new
building
on
the
property.
C
Well,
Holly
yashi
was
never
in
that
building
is
that
right,
maybe
I
misunderstood
what
she
said.
Kalyashi
started
in
a
garage
off
of
Union
Street
on
12th,
Street
I
think
is
where
they
began
and
then,
but
we
don't
know,
we'd
have
to
do
a
lot
of
research
to
find
out.
There
may
be
more
than
that
Cottages
along
this
area,
because
it
was
a
Lumber,
Company,
I,
can't
think
of
the
name
of
it
right
now
that
was
operating
in
this
area.
C
E
I
I
I
guess
when
we
were
doing
the
subcommittee
meeting
I,
maybe
missed
the
significance
of
hollyashi,
yet
I,
don't
think
that
haleashi
has
bearing
on
the
historic
nature
of
these
buildings.
I
think
the
yellow
building
was
probably
moved
there
after
the
fact
and
the
peak
building
during
our
receptivity
meeting
I
found
that
Pink
building
on
aerial
images
from
pretty
far
back
in
the
day,
I,
don't
remember
exactly
what
the
date
was,
but
I
think
we
considered
that
to
be.
E
F
D
Is
the
question
I
think
David
in
some
senses?
Are
you
know?
Our
goal
here
is
to
identify
structures
that
meet
the
criteria
as
set
forth
the
four
criteria-
and
you
know
and
I'm
not
sure,
mostly
focusing
on
the
architectural
qualities
of
these
structures,
as
opposed
to
their
history,
essentially,
and
that's
probably
why
you
don't
see
any
of
the
structures?
No
to
this
meeting.
Let's
say
what
is
the
criteria,
the
social
history
criteria?
D
Is
it
number
three
I
think
that's
probably
why
that
is
because
that's
that's
the
real
that's
a
research
topic
essentially
to
dig
in,
and
you
know
who
was
living
there
with
somebody
important
associated
with
this,
or
something
like
that.
So
so
that's
always
going
to
be
a
weakness.
I.
Think
of
this
list
of
of
identifying
social
history
focused
items,
I
think.
E
No
I,
I,
agree
and
I
think
that
part
of
the
rationale
from
you
know
early
discussions
amongst
the
committee
members
was
that
you
know
the
social
history,
while
it's
not
known
is
conveyed
in
the
integrity
and
significance
of
the
resource
that
remains
and
I
think
you
could
probably
you
know,
put
on
one
end
of
the
spectrum.
You
know
the
town
of
Bodhi.
None
of
many
of
those
structures
are,
you
know
in
pretty
poor
condition.
The
park
service
is
doing
the
best
they
can
to
maintain
them
and
preserve
them
and
I.
E
You
know,
so
you
know
some
folks
might
be
able
to
weigh
in
as
to
you
know
whether
this
structure
has
Integrity.
Regardless
of
you
know
it's
the
length
of
time.
It's
been
standing
in
this
location
or
or
it's
you
know,
social
history.
You
know
what
it
conveys
from
social
history,
so
I
think
you're
right.
That
is
going
to
be
a
limitation,
but
I
think
this
is
the
best
we
can
do
to.
You
know
to
take
a
first
big
step
towards
providing
some.
C
Well,
it's
it's
that
shed
roof
is
it's
probably.
It
was
probably
a
small
Gable
over
the
front
door
originally,
and
somebody
came
along
later
and
did
this,
but
it's
reversible,
it's
not
those
are
all
fixable
things
and
when
you're
doing
rehab,
those
are
the
things
you
get
in
and
you
bring
them
back
to
the
way
they
were
or
the
way
you
thought
they
were
anyway.
But
you
believed.
E
C
You
have
to
remember
that
polyashi
is
a
new
building.
Next
across
the
way,
is
a
new
building.
Next
to
this,
where
the
child
care
people,
whatever
their
organization,
is
that's
a
new
building,
was
built
by
Holly
Ashi,
you
know
so.
I
have
a
feeling
if
we
went
back
and
asked
Holly
Ashi
when
they
got
into
building
all
these
buildings
on
what
was
standing.
There
was
this
in
this
location.
They
I'm
sure
they
have
that
information,
because
they
built
two
buildings
on
this
property.
A
B
Yeah
good
question
so
Jerry
originally
sent
a
list
if
there
were
sites
that
the
subcommittee
felt
were
clearly
not
in
good
condition
or
sort
of
outside,
of
the
scope
of
what
we'd
be
looking
for
in
a
survey,
they
were
not
brought
before
you.
There
were
a
handful
like
these
two
where
the
subcommittee
said
this.
One
could
kind
of
go
either
way,
we'd
like
to
get
the
full
committee's
perspective
on
this,
as
opposed
to
making
a
determination
without,
without
letting
there
be
more
of
a
discussion
about
it.
Foreign.
B
So
there
are
a
few
that
aren't
necessarily
you
know
recommended
per
se
by
the
subcommittee,
but
are
being
offered
up
for
further
further
discussion
and
may
ultimately
not
be
considered
meeting
thresholds
for
significance
that
we
choose
to
apply
so
I
guess
I'll
kind
of
just
speed
through
the
next
few.
But
again,
if
you
do
have
any
any
burning
thoughts,
please
do
to
stop
me.
B
So
this
is
the
last
one.
That's
sort
of
you
know
a
unique
case.
My
understanding
is
Caltrans
has
already
surveyed
and
identified
the
rail
line
here
and
so
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
really
discuss
it
further,
but
this
one
also
is
something
that
we
discussed
a
bit
as
the
subcommittee
and
Tim
I.
Don't
know
if
you
would
like
to
speak
to
it
at
all
sure.
D
So
basically,
what
that
means
is
that
when,
if
there
was
a
need
to
alter
or
remove
this
law,
the
rail
line
going
through,
basically,
someone
would
have
to
consider.
Does
the
Slime
going
to
town
contribute
to
the
eligibility
of
the
Northwest
Pacific
Railroad
as
a
whole?
Okay,
and
if
it
did,
if
a
determined
it
did
and
we
it
was
to
be
impacted,
then
there
would
have
to
be
some
sort
of
mitigation
associated
with
the
alteration
or
removal.
B
Mm-Hmm,
perfect
yeah,
so
I
feel
like
that
one.
You
know
it
doesn't
necessarily
need
much
more.
You
know
discussion
from
the
committee,
but
it
was
identified
by
our
subconsultants.
So
I
wanted
to
add
that
in
here,
so
the
next
batch
is
the
sites
that
Susie
Van
Kirk
did
the
research
on
made
sure
that
she
had
kind
of
done
her
due
diligence
for
both
the
context
and
the
architecture,
but
were
for
whatever
reason,
not
ultimately
landmarked.
B
So
the
first
one
is
Portuguese.
Hall
I
feel
like
this
one
has
a
pretty
clear
sense
of
local
history
and
context
without
really
even
needing
to
go
inside.
It
says:
Portuguese
hauling
it.
If
anybody
has,
you
know
been
inside
attended
one
of
their
linked,
Lisa
breakfasts.
You
know
that
it
still
is
a
very
active
and
thriving
part
of
our
community,
so
that
is
the
first
of
the
Susie
van
Kirk's,
the
Mirada
house,
which
currently
houses
duchies,
was
another
one
kind
of
a
unique
style
for
the
area
in
not
expert
opinion.
B
The
lumber
yard
office
is
an
interesting
one.
Susie
Van
Kirk
identified
it,
as
did
our
consultant.
Our
consultant
in
his
notes
mentioned
that
the
neighboring
Workshop
building
may
also
be
of
interest
that
one
I
would
assume
would
not
really
meet
the
eligibility
criteria
due
as
condition,
but
that
you
know
would
definitely
be
something
for
the
subcommittee
to
discuss
and
make
a
determination
on
if
anyone
has
any
thoughts
on
that
before
I
before
I
move
on.
D
B
And
then
the
Lord
house
I
think
this
may
be
the
last
or
second
to
last
property
that
has
been
identified
in
the
past
by
Susie.
Van
Kirk
is
very
beautifully
maintained,
but
it's
not
currently
a
Landmark
property.
I
know
we
have
had
some.
You
know
very
brief
discussions
at
this
committee
about
the
history
of
the
site.
I
agree
with
David.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
carrying
the
property
owners
along
with
us
for
some
of
the
sites
that
do
have
history
like
this
one
does.
A
E
Yeah,
the
the
rail
goes
down
L
Street,
which
is
proposed
in
the
plan
as
the
second
part
of
a
one-way
couplet
between
K
and
L
Street
to
segregate
Northbound
and
southbound
traffic.
If
you're
interested
in
looking
at
what
that
looks
like
it
can
bring
that
up,
but
but
it
it
is
proposed
to
you
know,
have
some
some
modifications
through
that
section
of
it,
and
you
know
I
agree
with
with
10
that
we'd
have
we're.
E
D
F
C
F
A
C
The
other
thing
is,
it
was
a
trend
in
in
Arcata
to
if
people
have
front
yards
is
to
build
in
them,
and
that
was
a
whole
I
would
say
that
was
happening,
probably
in
the
60s,
maybe
50s
60s
and
it
definitely
went
into
the
70s.
That's
why
you
have
in
front
of
the
Devlin
house
two,
the
units,
so
you
have
these
units
here,
but
the
property
owners
a
few
years
back,
moved
the
one
on
the
east
side
back.
So
you
would
have
a
view
of
the
Lord
house
before
that.
C
You
really
couldn't
see
it
because
it
was
right
up
towards
the
sidewalk.
So
they
made
that
accommodation
and
actually
moved
that
a
whole
unit
on
the
right
hand,
side,
and
then
they
they
put
grass
in
and
walkways
and
fencing
and
Etc.
So
they
did
an
upgrade
there
to
make
it
available.
And
you
you
have
a
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
give
you
the
name
right
now,
but
it's
up
on
I,
Street
and
maybe
14th
and
I
want
to
call
it
the
Chapman
house.
C
But
that
is
a
house
that
there's
another
house
built
in
the
front
yard.
But
it
was
a
house
that
had
a
whole
front
yard
and
a
whole
backyard,
and
someone
bought
off
part
of
the
property
and
built
a
house
in
front.
But
we
used
to
have
where
you
would
have
a
settlement
or
a
house,
and
you
know,
need
longer
needed
the
side
yard
because
you
could
buy
milk
and
you
didn't
have
to
grow
all
your
vegetables
and
have
your
chickens
and
they
sold
it
off.
C
B
Yeah,
the
original
infill
yep,
okay,
so
moving
on
to
the
third
and
final
set
of
properties,
so
there
are
I
believe
eight
of
these.
So
it's
the
largest
category.
These
are
sites
that
our
historic
resource,
professional
identified
in
addition
to
sites
that
we
already
had
a
pretty
clear
sense
of
some
of
these,
the
subcommittee
felt
pretty
confident
should
be
included
some.
They
were
not
as
sure
about
and
wanted
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
sole
committee.
B
B
B
B
C
B
Yeah,
so
definitely
some
you
know
fun
fun,
local
history
associated
with
this
one.
So
this
was
an
interesting
one,
because
it's
pretty
clearly
to
two
structures
that
were
merged
into
one
Jill.
You
know
is
not
here,
but
I
remember
comment
that
she
had
had
was
you
know
that
in
itself
kind
of
speaks
to
an
interesting
era
in
local
history?
B
C
But
but
that's
a
typical
thing
and
when
you
look
at
the
settlement
era
houses
they
have
wings.
So
the
wing
is
two:
they
have
a
one-story
Wing.
It's
either
on
the
back,
the
right
or
the
left,
the
east
of
the
whatever
side
of
it,
and
they
would
build
those
first
because
they
could
that's
the
most
they
could
afford
and
then,
when
they
could
had
some
additional
money,
they
would
build
the
two-story
part,
so
it
so
then
you
have
the
so.
C
B
C
B
Okay,
well
that
one's
good
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
I
believe
this
is
the
last
one
and
so
in
the
Gateway
area
plan.
We
currently
identify
this
one
as
potentially
historic,
but
we
did
have
a
relatively
lengthy
conversation
about
it.
It
falls
outside
of
the
four
eras
of
development
that
we've
identified.
It
is
a
little
bit
later,
but
it
is
somewhat
unique
for
the
area
and
relatively
intact.
There
isn't
really
a
lot
of
detail
on
it.
Jill
noted
the
windows.
D
F
D
C
But
you
also
have
I.
Had
someone
tell
me
the
other
day
that
it's
amazing
like
20
years
ago
they
hated
a
certain
style
of
architecture
and
then
20
years.
Hence
now
they
go
I'd
love
that
how
could
I've
ever
hated
it,
and
so
it
we
evolve
in
our
thinking,
our
knowledge
and
our
appreciation-
and
this
is
definitely
the
Cooper
Building-
is
definitely
a
significant
structure.
Nick
for
encounted
he
remodeled
the
inside
the
inside
was
basically
Argus
Studios
along
well,
I
would
say
well.
C
My
daughter-in-law
had
an
artist
studio
there
with
four
friends
that
were
all
going
to
Humboldt
State
in
the
art
department
and
they
had
rough
wooden
floors
and
it
was
very
the
whole
floor,
everything,
but
then
he
came
in
and
he
redid
the
upstairs
and
he
made
him
into
nice.
Little
offices
put
carpet
down
or
such
input.
You
know,
doors
with
side
lights,
and
you
know
the
kinds
of
things
you
would
find
somewhere
else.
C
B
Okay
and
I
believe
that
wraps
up
our
list,
so
it
you
know
ultimately
was
not
not
a
huge
number
of
resources.
I
think
we.
We
knew
that
outside
of
the
main
neighborhood
conservation
areas
and
core
development
of
the
city,
there
likely
wouldn't
be
dozens
and
dozens,
but
these
are
the
refined
ones
that
hopefully,
we'll
discuss
more
at
upcoming.
F
B
C
G
A
C
G
Alex
know
that
the
building
I'm
in
was
built
in
1948.
It
was
one
of
George
hits
buildings
and
it
probably
has
historical
value
for
reasons
you
guys
would
haven't
identified
with
this
study,
but
I
believe
the
building
you're
talking
about
is
probably
the
one
on
Rich's
Auto
Body.
Are
you
talking
about
the
little
green.
C
G
No,
my
my
Shop's
in
a
big
metal
building
like
I,
say
it
was
constructed
in
48
back
when
the
street
level
was
at
the
same
level,
and
it
was
the
main
road
through
town
at
that
point,
but
anyway,
I
know
a
lot
about
the
history
of
this
particular
building,
but
no
and
answered
your
question.
No,
that's
not
that's
not
me,
but.
H
H
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
know
much
about
any
of
them,
even
the
ones
right
there
near
our
property
on
Ninth
and
then
but
oh,
the
only
thing
I
I
was
wondering.
One
thing
I
was
wondering
about
is
I
saw
a
that
the
property
on
the
corner
of
11th
and
K
was
labeled
as
the
Morata
and
I
think
it's
Miranda.
It's.
H
C
Correct
about
that's
how
they
spell
it
Miranda
and
they
also
have
the
Miranda
farm
that
sound
on
a
oh.
What
street
is
that
it's
m,
or
something
like
that?
Emma
goes
into
because
from
that
farm
that
they
have,
they
had
cattle
and
they
used
to
take
them
Acro
underneath
the
freeway
so
that
there's
an
actual
a
tunnel
or
opening
underneath
a
10
or
navy
base
road
to
take
the
cows
back
and
forth.
H
C
E
A
A
I
Great
I
have
laryngitis
so
I,
don't
know
about
perfect
I'm.
Just
gonna
take
through
a
few
of
my
thoughts
and
notes.
First
off
I
I
have
to
start
with
Alex
we're
gonna
miss
you
I
know:
I'm
gonna,
miss
you,
your
expertise
and
knowledge
and
your
ability
to
humanize
this.
This
discussion
with
chickens
and
milk
deliveries
and
cows
roaming
around.
So
thank
you
for
reminding
us
about
our
evolution
of
thinking,
knowledge
and
appreciation
of
structures
and
blessings
on
your
new
leadership
role.
C
I
Dilo
enjoy
Sacramento
I
was
born
and
raised
there
and
great
PowerPoint,
and
so
I'm
I'm
sure,
hoping
that
this
PowerPoint
will
somehow
magically
appear
or
be
uploaded
on
the
YouTube
channel
for
the
city
under
the
serp
playlist,
like
you
did
for
the
January
meeting,
awesome
PowerPoint
and
Bill
I'm
thrilled
that
you
reviewed
the
recording
from
the
previous
meeting.
That
is
a
pretty
rare
statement
to
hear
from
a
Committee,
Member
and
I
really
appreciated
that,
especially
that
these
meetings
are
zoomed.
I
We
have
the
benefit
of
not
just
having
audio
like
we
usually
did
with
the
in
person,
but
we
have
the
benefit
of
the
visual
for
these
PowerPoints,
especially
so
that
I
was
very,
very
pleased
to
to
hear
you
and
ascertain
that
video
recording
to
on
your
own
as
a
extra
credits.
Bumpers.
You
know
extra
credit
sticker
to
you
bill
and
I
really
am
thrilled
that
the
the
committee
is
discussing
incorporating
the
social
history
as
possible
criteria.
I
I've
always
thought
that
was
such
a
cool
aspect
of
this
type
of
discussion.
I
For
example,
this
this
chapter
is
about
three
pages
in
the
the
draft
Gateway
area
plan,
and
you
know
for
a
person
to
want
to
look
at
what
you're
referring
to
they
have
to
go
to
the
city's
website
and
go
to
the
cert
page
and
click
on
and
look
at
the
table
contents
and
then
find
the
page
and
reference
it.
So
maybe
it
was
included
with
the
committee.
A
Thank
you,
Moonlight
I
would
say
that
I
I
particularly
needed
to
review
that
video
in
in
order
to
prepare
for
the
meeting
of
the
chairs
meeting
that
occurred
between
our
last
two
regular
hlc
meetings
here.
So
that
was
the
reason.
I
particularly
wanted
to
go
back
to
this
committee
and
make
sure
I
I
heard
what
what
everybody
was
talking
about
represented
us
with
the
rest
of
the
chairs
at
the
city
council
kind
of
get
together
a
few
weeks
back.
Thank
you,
though.
Moonlight
next.
J
Sorry
trying
sorry,
Serge
and
I
are
here
and
we
own
one
of
the
Devlin
Cottages
I
think
this
is
probably
a
big
question
and
maybe
not
appropriate
for
right
now.
But
I
would
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
why
someone
would
list
their
property
as
a
historic
building
and
what
the
pros
and
cons
are
about
that.
J
C
Well,
when
we
first
did
the
survey
in
the
1980s
when
it
was
completed,
it
was
complete,
I
think
1980
or
81.
Susie
Van
Kirk
worked
on
that
in
this.
In
the
late
70s
right,
people
were
really
excited
to
have
their
places
listed
or
have
historic.
It
was.
They
were
proud.
There
was
a
lot
of
Pride
and
and
I
would
hope
that
people
still
have
pride
in
having
these
historic
structures
and
that
you
all
do
with
yours
that
you
have
down
there.
C
J
J
C
C
F
C
F
E
So
I
had
heard
a
couple
of
good
suggestions.
Perhaps
that
the
committee
is
interested
we
can
bring
back
the
next
agenda,
just
a
quick
little
staff
report
on
you
know
listing
why
to
consider
it.
What's
the
difference
between
being
listed
and
being
determined,
potentially
historic
under
this
process
and
the
pros
and
cons
of
you
know
whether
you're
listed
or
not
being
considered,
potentially
historic,
I
think
that's
a
really
good.
E
B
A
A
C
C
It
goes
through
the
city
process,
so
you
would
have
to
be
designated
through
the
city
and
then
you
would
have
the
Mills
Aqua
get
approved,
and
so
the
Jacobi
Storehouse
is
on
is
doing
that
right
now
and
that's
why
it
was,
or
it
will
be
announced
on
this
agenda
and
they'll
be
coming
back
next
month
to
go
start
the
process
with
HLA
and
then
they'll
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
council
for
approval
and
they're
planning
on
doing
they
figure
they
can't
dink
it
around.
But
as
a
homeowner
or
property,
a
small
property.
C
You
can
they
figure
they're
going
to
have
to
get
into
major
work
on
the
back
of
the
building
and
that's
going
to
take
a
a
significant
amount
of
money
and
they
couldn't
possibly
do
it
in
stages
over
10
years,
because
it's
so
massive
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
right
there
now.
But
it's
something
to
consider
is
the
millsack
for
sure,
and
the
Chapman
house
used
the
Mills
access.
So
we
only
have
two
Millsap
projects
in
Arcata
at
the
moment,
but
you
may
want
to
look
into
that.
C
C
C
E
F
A
E
K
E
K
E
K
Yeah
and
I
do
realize
that
a
lot
of
folks
will
be
making
their
own
decisions
for
their
houses,
but
I
thought
just
based
on
the
some
of
the
decisions
you're
making
and
the
styles
of
architecture,
as
taking
pictures
of
it
might
be
worthwhile.
If
something
wanted
to
look
at
anything
in
additional
was
the
only
reason
appreciate
the
time.
Thank
you.
E
You
know
that's
something
of
interest
to
think
about
as
well,
and
you
could
see
that
replicated
in
the
in
the
district
and
some
of
the
new
buildings.
Some
of
the
buildings
cash
is
designed,
for
example,
borrow
elements
from
the
creamery
building
and
other
buildings,
so
just
thought
I'd
throw
that
out.
There.
B
B
A
A
A
A
B
Easily
just
take
30
seconds
so
I
think
we
can
stay
on
schedule
here
and
Alex
did
speak
to
it
briefly.
But
I
just
wanted
to
give
the
committee
a
heads
up
that
the
Jacobi
Storehouse
has
submitted
a
Mills
act
application
we
likely
will
be
able
to
bring
it
the
next
meeting,
we're
at
the
meeting
after
depending
on
where
we're
at
with
all
of
the
pieces
of
the
application,
but
it
would
be
to
conduct
some.
You
know
pretty
significant
facade
improvements,
significant
in
the
sense
of
costs.
It
would
not
necessarily
change.
B
There
is
also
an
active
and
simmering
application
for
potentially
a
rooftop
bar
for
the
structure,
we're
going
to
dig
a
little
bit
more
into
that
and
try
and
bring
back
some
more
information
on
that
as
well.
Just
so,
you
can
have
the
full
picture
of
the
you
know,
holistic
developments
and
and
past
of
the
structure
when
you're
making
the
decision,
and
that
is
basically
what
I
wanted
to
say
about
it
just
wanted
to
preview
that
that's
coming
up.
A
I
recognized
many
of
the
chair,
people,
women
and
men,
and
felt
you
know
just
on
personal
level,
felt
felt
you
know
honored
to
be
included
amongst
that
that
Roundtable
of
all
of
us
and
but
yet
I
I
did
say
during
that
meeting
that
our
committee
is
is
only
as
good
as
all
of
our
members,
and
you
know:
guy
Tim
and
Alex
and
David
and
Dilo
I.
You
know
I
do
feel
that
way.
A
Well
it
it
what
I
say
is
true.
You
know,
and
I
also
made
sure
to
say
that
the
the
committee
members
are
important,
but
also
the
the
public
that
attends
our
meeting
are
important
to
us
as
a
committee,
and
so
you
know
thank
you
to
the
various
people
who've
attended
this
this
month
at
this
meeting
tonight
and
your
attendance
is
important
to
us
and
and
keep
makes
us
a
better
committee.
So
thanks
for
everybody
that
attended
today
and
I
suppose
with
that,
we
should
adjourn.