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B
So
we
have
begun
recording
welcome
to
the
March
design
review
committee
meeting
I'm
going
to
call
the
role
confirmed
that
our
DRC
members
are
present.
I'm
Laurie
Davis.
C
D
D
B
Meyer
Here
Andrew
here
DRC
meetings
are
held
in
person
and
streams
simultaneously
to
allow
Commissioners
applicants
and
the
public
to
attend
online
members
of
the
board
and
applicants
joining
us
this
evening.
If
you
lose
connectivity
tonight,
please
reconnect
with
us
by
phone.
Keep
your
devices
muted
and
your
video
turned
off
until
your
article
Central
review
chat
is
active
for
participants,
reading
technical
assistance
and
should
not
be
used
for
questions.
B
The
public
May
observe
these
meetings,
but
participation
in
the
discussion
is
limited
to
applicants
and
members
of
the
utility
public
comment
is
welcome
for
the
hlnp
content
of
the
third
Wednesday
of
the
month
and
then.
Finally,
this
is
a
public
forum.
It
has
been.
This
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
everything
that
is
associated
with
this
meeting,
whether
we're
spoken
is
subject
to
the
freedom
ability
requirements.
B
This
came
to
us
last
month
and
since
then
the
applicant
has
modified
the
application,
as
suggested
by
the
designer
youth
committee,
to
insert
the
bike
called
Windows
just
into
the
existing
window.
Space
so
you'll
see
on
the
images
where
the
existing
window
is
and
the
second
drawing
and
then
above
it
that
that
same
space
would
be
used
for
bipolar
windows.
B
This
is
the
design
con.
Are
you
on
the
line
with
us?
No
Mr
Khan
has
had
trouble
calling
into
the
DRC
meetings
in
the
past.
B
Okay,
do
we
have
any
comments
about
this?
Initially.
E
I
had
a
few,
so
the
drawings
are
still
showing
that
there's
a
portion
of
the
wall
to
be
demolished
and
I,
don't
know
about
anyone
else.
I'm
I'm
personally
opposed
to
demolishing
it,
because
I
think
there's
a
strong,
horizontal
datum
line
both
with
the
single
windows
on
either
side
of
the
proposed
bifolds,
as
well
as
with
the
recessed
doors
on
those
return
walls
there
is
a
window
and
those
are
all
at
that
same
horizontal
datum,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
buildings
on
the
Block,
especially
the
one
to
the
left.
E
Looking
at
it
on
the
street.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
any
strong
preferences
on
it.
It
looks
like
they're
proposing
to
demolish
about
eight
inches,
but
I.
Think
having
that
horizontal
datum,
that's
gonna
go
up
and
down
we'll
be
odd.
A
Shirt,
Robert
I
can
tell
you
a
little
bit
so
pull
up
the
other
images
as
well.
So
you
can
see
yeah
so
he
presented
last
month
and
he
wanted
to
demolish
the
existing
window,
openings
that
was
kind
of
two
storefront
windows
on
either
side
of
the
entrance,
and
he
wanted
to
put
in
bi-fold
windows
that
are
full
length,
and
so
it
would
demolish
the
half
wall
below
the
window.
But.
A
Building
is
right.
It's
right
next
to
was
that.
A
Minute
over
it,
it's
right
across
from
the
Arlington
Draft
House
on
Columbia
Pike,
and
this
is
It's
a
historic
facade
in
the
commercial
form-based
code.
So
therefore,
we
have
purview
of
how
the
facade
is
treated
and
the
DRC
talked
about
it
last
month,
as
well
as
the
hlrb
stating
that
they
did
not
want
the
window
openings
to
be
expanded
and
that
he
could
put
in
some
type
of
different
window
as
long
as
it's
in
the
existing
window,
opening,
which
would
also
mean
like
what
Rebecca's
saying
size
of
the
existing
window.
Openings.
C
D
F
The
windows
single
windows
on
either
side
of
the
right
and
left
of
the
large
storefront
windows
and
I
think
that's
what
the
concern
may
be
is
changing
that
elevation
across
their
you're
going
to
have
these
single
windows
on
either
side
that
they're
going
to
be
at
a
different
height
of
the
cyborg
than
the
what
is
proposed
and
drawings.
As
far
as
I
can
see
right,
right
and.
C
D
And
also,
if
I
can
jump
in
the
the
other
thing
that
I'm
noticing
immediately
is
that
these
these
folding,
these
folding
windows
are
the
the
it's.
Oh,
it's
divided
into
it's
divine
divided
into
five,
whereas
the
the
the
opening
is
you
know,
is
now
divided
into
two.
You
know
so
I
could
see
if
you
divided
it
in
into
four.
D
You
know,
especially
if
you
somehow
carry
that
that
line
of
the
the
you
know
that
kind
of
transom
line.
Somehow
in
the
you
know,
in
the
way
that
you
subbed
divided
the
panels,
but
I
find
the
five
kind
of
weird
and
I
agree
with
everybody
else
about
the
the
lack
of
of
consistency
with
the
elevation
of
the
adjacent
Windows,
either
on
on
the
end
of
the
facade
or
in
the
entry
niche.
G
I
would
agree,
I
concur
with
everything.
That's
what
I've
been
been
said.
I
think
that
the
horizontal
datum
line
that
that's
missing
from
the
the
proposed
is
definitely
something.
That's
that's
not
not
exactly
what
we
were
looking
for,
foreign.
B
I
will
communicate
that
to
the
applicant
another
bill,
so
I'll
give
him
the
option
to
amend
these
drawings
and
let
you
know
how
he
decides
to
move
forward
but
say
you
were
to
move
forward
with
what
he
has
right
now.
I
assume
this
is
a
discussion
agenda
item.
F
D
And
I
think
it
just
completely
changes.
The
rhythm
of
the
you
know
of
the
of
the
facade
I
mean
it
was.
It's
I
think
that
the
I
could
I
could
see,
making
a
concession.
You
know
to
operability,
to
subdivide
it
into
four,
so
that
you
could,
you
know,
have
smaller
panels
that
you
could
open,
but
but
the
five
is
a
completely
different
Rhythm
and
and
it
you
know
it,
it
took
what
what
was
a
composition
of
kind
of
square.
D
You
know
Square
window
panels
and
turned
it
into
the
you
know,
basically
vertical
shutters
kind
of.
Instead,
it's
a
very
different
feel
I,
think
I,
think
and
I
think
I
think
if
they
were
to
show
this
with
the
windows
on
either
side
as
Andy
suggested
I
think
you
would
see
how
weird
this
looks
and
plus
we
can't
tell
you
know.
D
Maybe
it
would
look
okay,
because
the
windows
on
either
side
would
would
be
the
same
width
as
as
those
vertical
panels,
but
I
don't
think
so
so,
okay
anyway,
that's
that
that's
my
thought.
B
Great
question
I
have
those
curves
okay.
So
our
next
item
is
that
3550
Wilson.
This
is
the
former
Arlington
art
center.
Now
the
Arlington
Museum
of
Contemporary
Art
Ria.
Are
you
on
the
line
with
us.
H
B
Yes,
I
am
perfect
hi,
so
we
have
this
application,
but
I
know
that
you'd
I
have
not
I
haven't
pulled
up
about
the
drawings.
I
know
that
you
changed
it
from
two
Banners
To
One
Banner,
I'm
gonna.
Pull
that
up.
Do
you
have
the
single
banner
rendering
not.
H
Yet
I'm
still
waiting
for
our
marketing
team
to
send
that
in
to
me
the
the
goal
of
it
once
you've
pulled
up
the
current
rendering.
Is
it
either
going
to
be
the
one
shown
on
the
left
or
the
right
or
not
changing
the
actual
design
of
the
banner?
H
B
A
Ahead,
I
apologize;
no!
No,
as
you.
B
H
Saying
yes,
we
learned
within
the
past
24
or
48
hours,
or
so
that
we
would
only
be
able
to
have
one
banner
up.
The
variance
also
only
allows
for
35
weeks
which
we're
happy
to
comply
with
and
the
banners
as
you
can
see,
they're
essentially
the
same
except
for
the
color
of
the
logo.
H
We
are
going
to
be
going
with
the
pink
logo.
It's
just
a
matter
of
whether
or
not
it's
on
the
left
side
or
right
set
of
columns.
B
And
this
so
35
weeks
are
those
consecutive,
and
will
this
be
annual
so
by
temporary?
What
kind
of
temper
are
we
looking
at.
H
The
variance
currently
is
unclear
about
whether
or
not
it's
consecutive
I
have
a
meeting
later
on
I
believe
next
week,
with
Essie
over
at
Zoning,
for
whether
we
need
to
break
up
that
amount
of
time
as
for
it
being
annual.
These
are.
These
are
temporary
banners
unless
we
come
up
with
a
new
design
that
we
would
of
course
have
to
reapply
for
I,
don't
foresee
us
having
this
up
for
the
next
five
years,
every
35
weeks,
much
more.
I
B
H
F
Well,
I
find
two
signs,
one
on
either
side
of
the
doorway,
each
in
case
two
columns
to
feel
better
than
the
idea
of
putting
only
one
sign
up
of
either
the
right
or
the
left.
This
is
the
very
symmetrical
classical
building
studio
and
and
to
then
disrupt
it
in
this
manner,
especially
right
on
the
street
seems
to
be
today's
inappropriate.
F
F
D
Even
under
the
the
provision
that
we,
if
we
rule
that
something
is
in
the
interest
of
the
historic
preservation,
because
but
Andy's
saying
I
I
agree
with
that
this
is
a
classical
building.
It's
got.
It's
got
two
large
Bays.
It's
got,
you
know
a
symmetrical,
a
symmetrical
Portico
which
which
has
two
pairs
of
two
columns,
and
then
you
know
so.
It's
like
unless
you're
gonna
put
something
on
Center.
D
It
seems
weird
to
to
have
just
one
of
them,
but
I
haven't
but
I
had
another
comment
which
is
I,
I,
guess
it.
It
bothers
me
a
little
bit
to
cover
up
the
columns.
D
D
So
you
see
it
sort
of
floating
in
front
of
the
column,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
the
columns
ghosted
behind
it,
which
would
allow
you
to
have
the
columns
and
the
banners
and
and
then
I
would
be
I
would
join
Andy,
and
you
know
in
in
supporting
you
know
us
at
least
attempting
to
be
whether
you
could
have
two
of
them.
B
So
the
the
ordinance
a
language
you're
talking
about
is
for
setback
modifications.
So
this
is
not
a
setback.
Notification
I,
don't
think!
That's
why
the
subordinates
prevents
there
from
being
two
banners.
I
could
certainly
join
your
meeting
free
if
that
would
help
at
the
same
time.
At
that
point,
if
you're
concerned
about
the
columns
being
covered
and
you're
concerned
about
symmetry,
you
could
have
a
horizontal
Banner
that
goes
along
the
top,
which
is
a
single
banner.
It's
symmetrical
and
it
wouldn't
be
covering
the
columns
you.
H
We
have
not
ordered
the
banner
yet,
but
some
of
our
material
tests
also
show
a
semi-transparent
material
that
you
could
see.
The
columns
I
will
certainly
ask
zoning
about
moving
it
to
a
single
column
or
to
a
single
horizontal
Banner.
H
D
Let
me
let
me
ask
something
else,
because
how
does
the
we've
had
this
problem
before
with
zoning
and
signs
in
the
way
that
they
interpret
what
a
sign
is
and
how
big
a
sign
is
because,
particularly
if
you
were
to
make
the
banner
or
semi
transparent,
it
seems
to
me
the
the
the
the
the
sign
is
basically
the
logo
and
the
and
the
the
type
you
know.
In
other
words,
it's
it's
relatively
small.
It's
not
the
whole
Banner.
D
D
If
that's
that's,
you
know
at
all
helpful
or
not,
but
it's
it's
a
thought.
B
So
it
sounds
like,
but
in
general
the
DRC
does
not
object
to
banners
on
the
front
of
the
buildings.
They
like.
The
idea
of
both
you
don't
object
to
the
design,
so
in
general,
am
I
getting
the
impression
that
DRC
is
supportive.
D
Well,
I
also
the
other
I
don't
understand
again:
I
I
missed
the
you
know
the
beginning
of
this.
So
this
is
if
this
is
a
permanent
Museum,
it
seems
odd
to
only
have
only
be
able
to
have.
You
know
the
banners
for
for
35
days.
D
H
Eventually,
not
this
fiscal
year
and
we
each
part
of
our
building
is
a
different,
essentially
a
different
County
department,
so
I've
been
working
with
at
least
the
front
of
the
building,
because
we
have
a
clearer
ordinance
about
that.
Our
other
other
things
we
will
eventually
submit
to
you
will
be
parking
lot
banners
and
then
the
Monumental
sign
our
goal
with
these
banners
is
to
celebrate,
exhibition
openings
I,
see
especially
when
you
have
the
summer
and
fall
exhibition.
So
we
would
love
to
have
these
up.
So
people
know
that
our
building
is
still
active.
H
Most
of
our
constituents.
Don't
or
many
people
don't
know
that
we've
opened
up
since
covid,
so
we're
trying
to
draw
the
eye
a
little
bit
more
as
far
as
the
35
weeks,
we
would
love
to
be
able
to
have
them
more
often,
but
at
this
point,
I've
been
working
on
getting
these
banners
up
for
nine
months,
and
this
has
been
the
closest
all.
The
county
departments
have
agreed
that
we
could
have
it.
D
So
so
the
35
weeks
is
for
and
in
for
this
sign,
if
you
change
the
sign,
do
you
get
another
35
week
like
if
you
have
a
different,
exhibit
that
you're
that
you're
that
you're
promoting
do
you
then?
Can
you
apply
for
another
or
is
it
35
weeks
total
in
a
year.
H
That
is
part
of
what
I'm
talking
to
Essie
about,
because
it's
unclear
from
what
I've
gathered
honestly
I
think
it's
going
to
be
35
total
in
a
year
with
17
of
nothing.
But
we
Our
intention
is
to
reapply
any
time
we
think
of
changing
the
design
at
all.
D
Right
because
yeah,
because
again
this
is
you
know
this
is
pretty
standard
stuff.
You
know
the
you
know
the
Metropolitan
Museum
in
New
York
does
Banner
like
pretty
much
everybody.
Does
banners
on
museums
to
to
advertise
the
you
know
the
current
show
and,
and
it
it
seems
like
it
would
add.
You
know
if
this
isn't
you're
not
doing
this,
for
you
know,
for
you
know
like
just
to
sell
computers
or
something
you're
doing
this.
D
You
know
for
the
enrichment
of
the
community,
which
you
would
think
would
be
something
that
the
county
would
would
be
behind
and
anyway,
so
I
I
I
would
I
I
really.
H
No
you're,
fine
I
absolutely
would
love
your
recommendation
for
this
to
spare
to
spare
the
long
story.
It's
because
our
building
is
County
owned
and
independently
run,
there's
disagreements
about
which
order
we
go,
which
department
we
go
to
in
order
who
owns
what
so
any
support
we
are
happy
to
have,
but
that,
yes,
is
our
goal
with
the
manners.
D
Right,
have
you
have
you
thought
I
know
this
is
this
is
a
bit
more
of
a
of
an
investment,
but
have
you
thought
about
putting
the
banners
like
on
the
you
know
like
big
Banners
at
the
on
the
brick
panels
they
at
the
ends
of
the
building,
so.
H
As
I
said:
I've
been
working
on
some
version
of
signage
for
nine
months
now
that
was
our
first
choice,
but
zoning
said
it
was
too
large.
So
these
banners
we're
showing
now
are
what
zoning
said
we
are
allowed
to
have
at
the
max
size.
B
Okay,
there's
a
square
footage:
maximum
I,
don't
know
why
I
don't
know
if
people
have
gotten
wrapped
up
in
larger
banners.
I,
don't
know
what
the
safety
reasons
are,
but
there
are
like,
like
swordless
language
language,
for
temporary
banners,
ordinance
language
for
how
temporary
banners
can
be
installed,
and
so,
if
they
were
more
permanent,
they
would
have
to
have
different
explanation
and
then
also
ordinance
language
about
how
big
it
was
about
to
be
and
what
they're
allowed
to
say
again.
Don't
know
what
no.
D
Yeah,
because,
but
I
think
most
of
those
zoning
rules
were
formulated
for
the
you
know,
the
purpose
of
controlling
commercial.
You
know
advertising
so
like
somebody,
you
know
decides
to.
You
know,
put
a
huge
sign
on
their
building.
Saying
that
you
know
so
it
doesn't.
Look
like
Times
Square
I
think
is
the
is
the
intent
but
the,
but
you
know,
there's
kind
of
a
tradition
in
you
know
in
in
museums,
to
put
big
banners
that
you
know
on
on
and
and
they
and
they
the
thing
to
me
is
that
they
they
fit.
D
You
know
they
fit
the
architecture
in
the
historic
preservation,
because
that's
how
people
used
to
do
it
in
the
old
days
before
they
had
you
know
LED
displays
and
things
they
would
put
banners
on
the
outside
of
the
building
to
advertise.
So
this
is
entirely
in
keeping
with
you
know,
kind
of
a
historic
preservation
point
of
view,
but
anyway
I
I,
I,
think
the
lesson
or
what
the
message
here
is
that
we're
happy
to
work
with
you
to
you
know
to
try
to
get
whatever
you.
You
know
whatever
you
you
can.
H
We
deeply
appreciate
it.
Our
goal
in
the
short
term
is
to
approve
wanna.
Whatever
we
can
have
approved,
we
have
a
show
open.
Now
we
are
opening
another
in
June,
but
the
long-term
goal
would
be
to
work
towards
having
banners
like
the
Met.
B
So
then,
in
that
case
you
this
based
on
signage
ordinance
before
we
like
try
to
Buck
the
system,
you
would
like
to
get
one
of
these
approved
at
the
Museum
on
the
15th.
Yes,
okay,
so
if
Commissioners,
if
that
were
to
be
the
case
and
only
one
could
be
improved
for
the
signage
ordinance,
how
do
you
feel
about
that?
Moving
forward.
F
Instead
of
using
the
banners
on
the
sides
to
frame
and
opening
that's
not
going
to
be
even
used,
it
doesn't
seem
like
I
I
find
this
is
a
historic
building
and
it
is
a
classical
symmetrical
design
and
you
know
what
you
do
with
it.
Exterior
of
the
disciples
doesn't
have
to
be
symmetrically.
Obviously
all
sorts
of
exhibits
there
and
maybe
the
appropriate
thing
might
be
if
you
want
to
do.
This
is
just
erected
as
a
temporary
thing
outside
of
the
building,
which
is
another
option.
F
You
could
put
it
on
the
site
and
I
personally
wouldn't
find
it
Disturbed,
but
I
find
this
appealing.
H
F
Honestly,
I
don't
think
that
is
needed
depending
on
exactly
where
you
put
it.
You
might
be
blocking
some
light
into
the
whole
wood
and
gone,
and
that
might
be
a
reason
to
make
a
little
bit
more
transparent.
C
B
E
Okay,
yeah
I
agree
with
the
horizontal
study.
If
zoning
will
only
allow
one
with
all
of
the
other
comments
that
have
been
said
with
the
cemetery
and.
H
I
will
add
this
to
our
notes,
because
our
variance
does
say
it
has
to
be
displayed
vertically
about,
with
the
support
of
the
board
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
Essie
about
the
potential
of
at
least
having
the
one.
The
size
horizontally.
B
Well,
thank
you
for
your
patience,
so
I
will
work
with
you
this
week,
so
projects
going
through
this
process.
We
have
an
additional
week,
amendment
period
where
we
can
change
the
plans
up
until
they
are
submitted
to
the
hlb
next
Wednesday.
So
that
could
be
something
and
then
so,
since
we
don't
know
what
would
be
going
on
the
agenda,
I
assume
the
contributors
feel
comfortable
with
with
a
discussion
agenda
and
then
we'll
see
what
has
been
worked
out
with
the
with
zoning
and
then
see
what
they
are
proposing.
How
does
that
feel
that.
H
B
Okay.
Moving
on
this
is
a
minor
change
to
the
handrails
on
the
front
of
the
new
construction
at
two
three,
two,
six
North
Jackson.
Let
me
just
move
this
turn
this
around.
B
B
Handrail
from
the
left
to
the
right,
so
you
have
updated
that
and
also
changed
the
design
of
the
the
lentils
and
the
and
pickets
correct.
I
We
didn't
really
change
the
pickets.
We
changed
the
intermediate
posts
to
extend
slightly
above
the
handrail
on
the
two
front
sections.
I
In
the
original
approved
plan,
the
intermediate
posts
were
came
up
underneath
the
handrail
and
the
handrail
was
continuous
in
this
iteration.
The
handrail
is
discontinuous
at
the
intermediate
columns.
I
While
we
were
looking
at
at
the
at
the
plans
with
one
of
the
staff
folks
that
came
out
to
talk
with
us,
we
noticed
there
was
a
couple
other
issues
that
had
never
really
been
fully
addressed.
When
the
handrails
were
added
to
this
project,
the
handrails
in
the
front
will
require,
by
code
a
graspable
rail
that
was
never
shown
on
the
original
institution,
where
the
subsequent
submission
the
raspable
rails
are
shown
on
sheet.
A202
bottom
right
is
a
photograph
example
where
there's
a
handrail
just
inside
of
the
wooden
handrail,
the
flat
handwritten.
C
B
Okay,
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
D
D
I
Mean
the
rail
is
the
rail
I'm,
sorry
there's
a
side
stair
yeah
yeah,
the
original
Plan
called
for
grade,
actually
we're
not
sure
exactly
where
grade's
going
to
be,
but
we're
kind
of
hedging
our
bets
that
we
may
need
a
handrail
based
on
a
code
requirement
that
there'd
be
no
more
than
30
inches
from
the
platform
to
finish
grade
I'm,
not
sure
that
it's
going
to
be
needed,
but
I
wanted
to
show
it
for
you
all
in
case
it
did
and
kind
of
get
a
pre-approval.
I
K
F
What
Andy
I
know
I
understand
why
we
need
the
post
bugs
and
handrail
on
the
front
elevation.
I
Well,
there's
there's
kind
of
two
reasons:
one
the
handrails
that
come
up
the
stairs
the
two
handrails
one
on
the
left,
one
on
the
right
side
as
they
come
up.
They
are
actually
higher
than
the
horizontal
hand,
so
those
posts
that
those
handrails
die
into
actually
want
to
be
a
little
bit
taller
so
that
the
handrail
has
a
better
detail
for
its
termination,
and
so
when
we
did
that
it
made
more
sense
just
to
kind
of
keep
that
Beam
on
the
front
and
on
that
side.
F
G
E
D
All
right
so
should
we
just
put
this
on
consent,
then
I.
F
B
So
I
will
submit
this
to
the
hlmv
as
a
consent.
Agenda
item
I'm.
B
Upload
the
plans
that
you
submitted
to
me
this
means
the
DRC
is
recommending
it
for
approval
to
the
hlob.
The
hlb
can
pull
an
item
anytime
up
until
the
vote.
So
even
though
it's
all
consent,
it
can
still
be
removed
from
consent
discussed
in
the
meeting.
We
would
also
pull
it
if
we
received
any
comments
of
concern
or
public
speakers
for
the
item
anytime
before
the
meeting
we
would
know
about
those
before
about
five
on
the
day.
B
D
Well,
let
me
just
let
me
just
throw
in
that
the
the
I
think
this
is
pretty
non-controversial.
The
the
and
the
the
board
takes
this
up
in
the
first
15
minutes
of
the
meeting,
and
it's
over
really
quickly.
So
it
won't
take
much
of
your
time
if
you
want
to
make
yourself
available
for
it,
but
as
if
not
as
Serena
says,
the
staff
can
can
answer
any
questions.
B
A
So
I'll
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
for
all
the
DRC
members
and
all
the
other
members
who
are
here
in
the
room
are
for
that
project
team
with
reevesland
I'm
going
to
call
it
reason.
We
call
it
the
Reese
farmhouse,
it's
located
at
400,
North
Manchester.
A
Just
for
a
little
bit
of
background.
We
did
provide
the
DRC
ahead
of
time
that
you
know
the
counties
owned
this.
Since
the
early
2000s
we've
been
trying
to
find
a
tenant
for
the
property
and
right
now
the
county
is
working
with
Habitat
for
Humanity
in
large
to
sorry,
I
was
at
the
back
and
forth
and
not
exactly
stay.
It.
C
A
Well
and
homemade
there's
many
different
partners
that
are
all
interested
in
this
property
and
trying
to
make
this
work,
and
basically
the
DRC
is
going
to
be
reviewing
proposed
Edition
and
should
be
trying
to
provide
feedback
to
the
project
team.
A
There
is
a
couple
different
people
here
in
the
room,
some
who
you
might
be
familiar
with.
We
have
Scott
Maddie's
here.
We
also
have
our
project
manager
Michael
spots,
who's
with
habitat
some
other
colleagues,
please
introduce
yourselves
so
yeah
Sarah
Moore
from
large,
and
we
also
have
somebody
from
home.
A
Here
too,
so
each
one
has
a
different
role
that
they're
playing
in
this
and
right
now,
there's
a
big
timeline
that
we're
working
with
with
everybody
all
the
members
of
the
team,
but
we're
trying
to
see
if
we
can
get
some
ideas
down
with
the
design.
We
could
go.
A
Look
at
the
whole
thing
we
could
get
down
to
the
details
and
materials,
but
I
think
I'd
like
to
leave
it
up
to
Scott
to
do
most
of
the
presentation
on
it,
because
I
think
that
the
plans
really
show
everything
very
well
and
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that
and
unless
Michael
you
want
to
mention
anything
else.
Yeah.
L
I'll
just
say
that
please
be
excited
to
be
part
of
this
project
team
I
joined
habitat
in
November,
but
I
know
this
project
has
been
the
worst
for
a
very,
very
long
time.
Prior
to
that,
so
I
want
to
acknowledge
everyone
that
hesitation
that
conversation
before
and
there's
a
lot.
We
can
talk
about
in
terms
of
timeline
process
roles
and
everything
like
that.
I
would
like
to
do
that.
L
A
B
J
J
Good
evening,
everyone
thanks
again
again
I'm
Scott
Mattis
with
the
windsect
and
Associates
I.
Thank
my
colleague.
Rudica
is
online
as
well.
I
know
it's
here,
but
I
think
she
was
anyway
I'm
going
to
track
through
this
package.
I
think
I'll
go
through
some
of
the
background
stuff.
Hopefully,
you've
all
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
I'm
going
to
track
through
the
background
stuff
relatively
quickly
get
to
the
design
proposal.
We
can
always
Circle
back
and
look
at
the
the
underpinnings
of
the.
J
J
All
right
so
I
think
you
all
probably
familiar
with
the
property.
It's
a
single
family
Farmhouse
and
a
beautifully
sighted
area
of
the
county.
So
the
and
again
I'm
not
going
to
focus
too
much
on
these
existence.
You
can
always
Circle
back,
but
it's.
I
J
I
think
I've
got
a
few
of
these,
not
necessarily
in
Arlington,
but
it's
a
remarkably
good
condition
for
sitting
bacon
for
for
as
long
as
it
has
we've
tracked
through
it
a
number
of
times.
There
are
some
issues,
I'm
sure
we'll
find
once
we
get
into
the
to
the
demo
process.
But
at
the
moment
you
know
compared
to
some
other
things,
I've
been
through
recently
out
in
Loudoun
County,
it's
in
remarkably
good.
So
that's
a
pasta.
J
J
The
farmhouse
and
as
you
as
we
see
when
we
track
through
this,
we
are
taking
every
inch
of
that
available
to
serve
the
program,
and
so
the
property
that
is
defined
is
about
13
000
square
feet.
So
it's
at
about
a
third
of
an
acre
or
something
like
that.
So
it's
not
a
particularly
big
property,
that
is
a
single
family
Zone.
It's
still
an
R6.
The
the
urd
really
defines
doesn't
change
the
the
use
parameters
of
R6,
but
it
changes
sort
of
the
setback
parameters.
You
can
see
the
addition
that's
allowed.
J
J
So
this
is
from
and
I
brought
a
copy
of
VM
scene,
the
John,
Milner
and
Associates
is
a
historic
consultant.
They
did
a
report.
This
is
from
their
2004
report
that
they
did
for
the
county
and
it
outlines
the
the
historic
evolution
of
the
property,
starting
from
the
left.
Moving
to
the
right
and
the
the
graphic
code
here
is
that
if
it's
effectively
white
in
black
and
white
with
you
know
black
lines
white
background,
it's
the
building
during
that
phase
and
if
it's
grayed
out
that's
existing
during
that
phase.
J
So
starting
on
the
left,
there
was
a
small,
what's
known
as
the
Taurus
and
tenant
house,
which
was
the
smallest
component,
then,
and
that's
I
can't
read
that
on
the
screen.
That's
from
Circa
1878.
J
J
But
that's
that's
and
then,
subsequent
to
that
plan,
three
directly
in
the
middle
is
Circa
1904
as
a
basically
doubling
the
size,
roughly
doubling
the
size
of
the
original
Farmhouse
added
the
ports
to
the
front
and
that's
time
oops
at
that
time,
The
Farmhouse,
as
we
know
it
today,
was
largely
in
place
the
things
that
happened
after
that
were
a
little
more
subtle,
and
particularly
the
plan
four,
which
is
second
from
the
right
added,
a
little
addition
to
the
to
the
right,
I
guess,
that's
East
and
which
added
a
bathroom
added,
some
other
ancillary
spaces
and
then,
finally,
you
know
post-war
exactly
when
not
known,
I
think
those
four
there's
a
small
addition
here
in
the
room,
so
that
and
and
as
we
kind
of
track
through
this
color's
a
bit
washed
out
on
the
screen.
J
But
hopefully,
if
you
saw
the
original
PDF
that
was
submitted,
these
existing
conditions
plans
and
pictures
help
reinforce
what
was
available
so
again,
it's
ground
four
is
on
the
public
space,
borrower,
social
room,
kitchen,
Etc,
upstairs
or
bedrooms
a
bathroom
to
the
rear,
nice
stair
Hall
in
the
front
that
leads
you
up
there
lower
your
head
as
you
hook
up,
because
that's
why
we
wear
hard
hats.
J
That's
that
we
intend
to
use
and
we'll
get
to
what
that
implication
of
that
means
relative
to
the
plan
and
the
massing
is
it's
a
usable
addict,
probably
a
bedroom.
It's
the
foundations
vary
depending
on
the
building
phase.
Some
there
is
a
small
full
seller
which
is
part
of
the
1904
build
out
over
here
and
the
crawl
space
under
the
original
Farmhouse.
J
There's
a
fair
amount
of
Foundation
joists
under
so
we're
not
quite
sure
what
we're
going
to
find
when
we
get
to
that
point,
but
there's
likely
some
deterioration
of
that
so
the
the
farm.
So
this
is
our
our
site
plan
and
what
we're
going
to
show
you
are
we
started
with
what
we've
called
in
this
package.
The
Baseline
option,
which
is
which
was
our
first
iteration,
that
we
shared
and
discussed
with
staff
with
Lauren
and
with
Cynthia,
got
some
feedback
from
those
meetings.
J
We
developed
two
alternates
based
on
their
feedback
they're
all
in
here,
so
we
so
we
we
felt
you
know.
Even
though
we
got
some
good
comments,
we
thought
we
would
maintain.
This
Baseline
option
show
it
to
the
to
the
BRC,
get
some
feedback
or
some
comments
on
that
and
then
present
the
subject
from
two
options
that
grew
out
of
that
based
on
Commons.
J
So
those
are
alternate
one
and
two
and
here's.
This
is
a
snapshot
of
all
of
them,
so
starting
from
upper
left
going
clockwise
the
existing
condition,
the
Baseline
option
and
apologies.
There's
a
typo
here
in
the
lower
right
is
actually
option
one
and
then
in
the
lower
left
is
option
two
and
the
the
differences
that
we
that
we
develop
options.
One
and
two
are
all
about
the
rear
and
how
we
intersect
with
the
original
back
five
minutes
program
is
largely
the
same.
In
these
two
options.
J
We
do
get
a
little
bit
more
program,
stays
on
the
second
floor,
but
the
the
size
of
the
addition,
the
footprint
of
the
dish,
the
addition
is
basically
the
same
options,
differences
from
being
massive
and
how
we
connect
to
the
to
the
existing
funnels,
so
the
Baseline
option-
and
we
so
again
existing
and
proposed
primary
thing
to
note
here-
is
that
it's
a
one-story
addition
to
the
rear
again
building
out
that
whole
footprint
allowed
in
what
you
are.
J
There
will
be
some
somewhat
expanded
parking
than
compared
to
what
exists
today
in
order
to
serve
the
program
and
but
it
you
know
that
creates
a
motor
cord
there's
some
definition
on
either
side,
we'll
see
that
the
first
minute
and
then
there's
a
one-story
Edition
or
one
story
component
to
that
which
is
a
flat
roof
component,
which
is
the
primary
intersection
with
the
rear.
And
this
little
piece
here.
J
M
J
Up
to
the
second
floor,
it
doesn't
go
up
and
serve
the
attack,
but
I
think
part
of
the
the
comments
we
got
from
staff
and
we
were
talking
is
you
know
that
is
a
little
bit
of
a
bump
on
the
rear
of
the
facade?
It's
you
know
the
massing
of
that
and
that's
this
piece
here.
You
can
see
sort
of
the
corner
of
the
existing
farmhouses.
J
And
that
two-story
piece
directly
exists
to
it
as
the
elevator
this
whole
back
and-
and
this
is
right
there,
where
the
cursor
is,
if
you
can
see
it,
that's
the
original,
notorious
and
tenant
house.
That's
the
oldest
piece
on
the
property.
It
also
has
the
lowest
Headroom
and
the
greatest
challenges
architecturally,
converting
it
to
usable
space.
J
Three,
a
cathedral
ceiling
condition.
That's
really
the
only
way
it
works.
So
we'll
see
that
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
but
this
scenario
had
a
small
portion
of
flat
roof
here
and
the
pitch
roof
of
the
addition
at
the
Western.
So
the
the
intent
there
is
to
create
a
you
know:
it's
like
farmyard
architecture.
You
have
you
create
a
court,
it
has
a
identifiable
Mass
to
it.
That's
you
know
we
think
of
a
scale.
That's
more
sort
of
more
similar
to
some
of
the
outbuildings
that
used
to
be
on
property.
J
If
you
know
the
house
of
the
garage
it
was
torn
down,
but
we
we
conceive
that
as
sort
of
a
farm
outbuilding
and
it's
and
give
it
a
diminutive
scale
to
the
to
the
primary
residence
I
think
so
that
that
is
the
primary
primary
rationale.
Direct
your
attention
to
this.
If
you
can
see
the
cursor
here,
that's
a
proposed
Dormer
on
the
original
The
Farmhouse
and
we'll
get
to
why
we
need
that.
But
that's
in
order
to
provide
Headroom
and
a
new
stair
that
goes
up
to
the
Attic
flash
third
floor.
J
J
J
The
primary
difference
in
this
scheme
is
how
we
address
this
area
here,
so,
instead
of
just
a
sort
of
a
smallish
bump
to
allow
the
elevator
to
exist
and
then
a
flat
roof
surrounding
it
basically
kind
of
extruded
that
end
form
and
maintain
the
roof
line
and
continue
the
roof
line
back
and
we'll
see
a
better
view
of
that.
J
J
J
J
I
J
J
It's
again,
sort
of
the
extruded
version
of
that
of
that
Gable
end
to
accommodate
the
the
to
encapsulate
the
Elevator
Shaft
and
gives
us
a
bit
more
programs
thanks,
I
think
the
harsh
muscle
machine,
and
so
this
is
option
two
everything
I
just
said
about
sort
of
the
Extrusion
of
the
form
you
know
at
the
at
the
back
that
encapsulates
the
elevator
all
the
same.
The
primary
difference
here
is:
we
turn
the
Gable
with
that
one
story:
piece:
it
was
more
independent.
Now
we've
turned
the
Gable
and
engaged
it
with
that
same
room.
J
J
There's
a
little
bit
different
feel
it's
you.
You
hit
you're
faced
with
not
a
Gable
end
at
this
Edge,
but
any
one,
so
it
breaks
down
the
scale.
From
that
perspective,
maybe
that's
possible.
You
know
I.
We.
J
Again,
the
you
know,
fenestration
is
modulated
in
a
similar
fashion.
This
has
because
the
orientation
of
the
Gable
it
has
the
adamant
Gable
pretty
much
like
this
one
and
then
from
the
rear.
J
Again,
the
extruded
form
same
issue
here,
we've
added
a
little
bit
of
a
sort
of
a
recess
or
a
notch
in
the
facade.
Is
that
sort
of
ghost
of
that
that
open
porch
that
we
that
we
have
to
encapsulate
to
get
the
programs?
J
When
you
look
at
it,
the
elevation
of
that
the
proportions
actually
look,
pretty
good
I'm,
not
gonna,
well
plans.
I
can
dwell
on
as
much
as
you'd
like
or
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what's
going
on
in
the
program
and
what
we
feel
like
on
the
interior,
we're
proposing
in
terms
of
a
demolition
campaign,
to
get
the
program
to
work,
to
reconfiguring
of
space
that
because
it
is
effectively.
I
J
Residential
use,
but
it
is,
it
is
an
Adaptive
reuse
in
a
sense,
and
we
need
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
and
what
we're
doing
on
the
interior
ticket
program
functionally
it
needs,
but
so
the
the
code
here
in
plans
is
on
the
right
or
existing
with
demo
proposed
demo
on
the
right
is
the
proposal
new
plan,
so
you
can
see
obviously
the
big
addition
to
the
rear.
It's
actually
not
that
big.
We
did.
This
area
count
the
existing
houses
about
three
thousand,
just
under
3
400
square
feet.
J
The
addition
is
only
about
just
under
1400
square
feet.
So
as
a
area
proportion,
it's
relatively
demanding
fit
as
well,
but
the
the
new
addition,
the
one
story.
It's
it's
a
bedroom
thing.
It's
all
bedrooms
and
bedrooms.
It's
serving
residents
all
this
space,
that's
sort
of
the
public
space
on
the
ground
floor
will
be
reconfigured
as
public
space,
Within
residents,
social
spaces,
kitchen
dining.
J
You
can
bring
a
little
single
family
and
then,
as
you
go
upstairs,
there
is
a
bit
more
demo
upstairs
in
order
to
get
you
know.
The
corridor
that
exists
on
the
second
floor
is
awfully
narrow.
So
we
we
do
need
to
make
that
a
bit
wider
to
get
that
function
properly,
so
you'll
see
a
bit
more
interior
reconfiguration,
upstairs
we're
adding
a
bathroom.
J
This
is
the
elevator
and
and
some
storage
adjacent.
The
position
of
that
elevator
again
is
relevant
to
the
ridge
of
that
addition
that
component
to
the
rear.
So
that's
the
maximum
Headroom
coincide
with
effectively
the
center
line
of
the
Elevator
Shaft.
Upstairs
there's
there's
one
bedroom
in
this
scenario
and
a
couple
other
groups,
the
the
stair
that
goes
up
so
right
now
that
this
is
part
of
a
stair
Hall.
J
You
can
I,
think
see
the
stair
coming
up
here
and
landing
on
the
second
floor,
there's
a
very
small
with
what's
known
as
a
guest
room,
but
it's
a
very
tiny
room.
It's
really
closet
that
what
we
want
to
do
is
convert
that
into
a
stereo
that
goes
up
to
the
third
floor
of
the
term
in
the
Attic
there's
a
little
closet
here,
which
creates
a
terrible
Headroom
problem
coming
up
anyway,
so
that
cause
it
has
to
be
taken
out.
J
It
just
doesn't
work
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
just
to
stack
stair
L-shaped
Stacks
there
that
takes
you
up
to
the
end,
and
then
that
necessitates
the
need,
and
if
you
remember
the
briefly,
we
saw
that
image.
You
know
it's
a
knee
walls
up,
you
know
up
to
four
and
a
half
or
five
feed,
and
then
the
under
Eve
or
under
the
rafters
is
the
space
up
there.
J
J
C
J
A
seventh
bedroom
and
programmatically
is
a
real
advantage
in
order
to
get
configured
with
closets
Etc.
It's
just
a
kind
of
a
dumb
box
at
the
moment,
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
it
means
of
plan
these
these
two
alternatives
and
we'll
see
about
that
roof
for
pretty
much
the
same.
I'm,
not
gonna,
really
spend
any
time
on
these
elevations
unless
you'd
like
to
there
they're,
not
you
know,
you
know
developed
to
the
point
with
enough
detail
for
a
final
submission
for
you
all
to
review
and
comment
on,
but
what
our
goal.
E
A
A
Before
you
jump
in
DRC
members,
I
see,
Cynthia
has
their
hand
up.
I
have
a
feeling,
I
know
what
she
might
say,
but
go
ahead.
Let
me
see
if
you're
reading
your
mind,
Cynthia
I.
N
I,
don't
know
hi
everyone.
Thank
you
for
that
great
presentation,
Scott
and
walking
everybody
through
everything.
I
just
wanted
to
pose
one
question
before
the
DRC
really
got
into
some
of
their
their
main
comments
about
the
the
the
massing
and
scale
I
was
just
wondering.
Could
Scott
or
someone
from
Lars,
maybe
give
a
really
quick
overview
of
the
program
of
who's
going
to
be
using
the
house,
so
there's
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
DRC
members
have
a
full
picture
of
kind
of
the
the
vision
for
the
site.
K
And
lash
is
a
home
for
people
with
and
without
intellectual
disabilities,
so
we
live
as
a
family.
We
live
together,
people
with
disabilities
and
without
disabilities.
In
our
homes
we
have
two
homes
in
Arlington,
South,
Arlington,
two
homes
in
DC
also
and
the
program
is
to
create
another
large
home.
The
program
is
to
create
an
opportunity
for
the
county
to
welcome
more
of
its
residents
to
live
in
the
county
to
deliver
the
experiences
of
intellectual
disabilities.
K
Is
what
I
is
what
I
believe
in
the
community
believes
because
of
the
ability
for
us
to
have
a
housing
space
that
is
on
graves?
So
we
don't
require
students.
All
of
our
current
homes
need
to
have
stairs
in
order
for
us
to
predict
the
program
space
because
of
the
confines
of
the
lots
that
we're
in
this
space
doesn't
do
that.
It
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
welcome
someone
through
all
of
their
life
through
the
program.
It
also
creates
an
opportunity
for
us
through
the
other
program
areas,
the
second
floor.
K
K
The
four
bedrooms
are
for
people
with
intellectual
disabilities
and
the
other
two
or
three
are
further
support:
people
the
assistants
who
live
in
the
home
we
do
live
together
and
I
lived
in
one
of
the
homes.
There
is
one
of
those,
so
we
really
are
living
as
a
family,
breaking
down
some
of
the
barriers
that
we've
created
around
the
commodification
of
work
and
of
Labor
around
serving
people.
N
That
was
great.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everyone
had
the
full
context
for
what
what
the
site
vision
is
here.
So
with
that
we
will
be
quiet.
We're
available
in
case
DRC
or
others
have
specific
questions,
but
we
really
Look
to
You
DRC
members
to
give
some
yeah
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word
critical
critical,
but
give
some
really
sound
feedback
and
direction
to
the
design
team.
So
then
they
can
continue
forward
to
to
finalize
their
their
design.
Here
in
the
coming
weeks,.
F
F
F
F
One
of
those
minds
are
thinking
County
when
they
decided
to
basically
sell
this.
F
Or
whatever,
underneath
the
house
was
built
extremely
post
and
back
in
the
kitchen
houses
pushed
to
the
inside
the
smoke
Lord,
so
it
was
new,
there's
actually
a
lot
of
noise,
the
choice
name
and
it's
actually
not
quite
good.
It's
it's
a
really
Role
Models
down
on
the
floor
very
easily.
F
F
J
J
You
know
there
is
this
odd
Delta
at
least
I
think
it's
where
this
game
will
sort
of
comes
out
to
the
end
of
that
Farmhouse
and
then
the
original
course
is
down
Trump
and
we
had
a
minimum
kind
of
thought.
C
J
Kitchen
floor
and
the
floor
of
the
adjacent,
dining
room
line
second
floor
does
in
the
model
across
that
that
second
floor
is
not
connected
to
the
second
floor
because
you
only
get
up
so
if
we
were
to
raise
it
up
to
get
more
Headroom
upstairs
we're
creating
a
problem
at
the
ground
floor,
we
did
be
equally
hard
core.
We
are
quite
worried
about
what
we're
going
to
find
its
structure.
It.
J
J
J
F
The
formation
of
the
house,
that's
the
best,
slow,
Hill
and
they're
slow.
You
know,
and
you
know
we
didn't
get
much
of
yourself.
Okay,.
F
A
F
Homicide
was
they
kept
around
the
similar,
so
that
was
probably
the
original
Reeves
thought
was
they
they
did
some
division.
What
happened
subdivision
leftist
barrier
out
of
the
whole
park
there
is,
and
residents
around
the
sides
are
pretty
appreciable
of
their
part
in
their
backyards.
So
I
think
there
was
some
resistance
to
the
margin
things
they
more
than
what
mechanics
are
already
worthless.
A
Andy,
can
you
talk
a
bit
about
which
massive
you're
thinking
with
Baseline
and
alternative
one
and
alternative
two
I.
F
Think
both
schemes
work
I
think
that
the
person
I,
like
perhaps
better
but
I,
mean
I
I.
Think
both
the
due
respect,
the
house
and
it's
in
part
where
the
house
sits-
and
you
know,
even
if
you
had
to
raise
degrade
to
raise
the
house
I
think
there's
other
Alternatives.
If
you,
if
you
get
away
from
the
idea
of
having
a
pet,
a
forced
air
system.
J
F
Basically,
the
original
house,
the
kitchen,
was
the
original
structure
of
the
house,
but
what's
the
name
of
the
locations
essentially
moved
down
a
hill
dragged
up,
it
was
like
I'm
a
little
place,
I
think,
even
though
there's
a
Park
area
around
the
back,
the
back
kitchen
area
is
not
of
the
General
Public
are
using
the
park.
I,
don't
think
they're
going
to
see
more
of
them
and
the
front,
and
perhaps.
F
C
F
D
Why
don't
we
hear
from
from
the
the
other
DRC
members
Rebecca?
Do
you
have
thoughts.
E
Sorry,
thank
you.
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
Andy
said.
I
think
both
schemes
respect
the
original
design
of
the
house
and
the
character
I
appreciate
that
both
of
them
step
back
I,
don't
know
that
I
have
a
strong
preference
one
way
or
another
for
which
one
is
preceded.
I
think
the
benefit
to
option
one
would
be
the
roof
lines
and
not
having
a
low
point
at
the
middle,
but
I
think
option
two
has
with
that:
lower
roof
just
from
a
water
shedding
perspective.
A
B
C
M
A
There's
the
Baseline,
the
Baseline
is
the
one
story:
flat:
roof
Edition
and
then
the
one
and
a
half
story:
Edition
that's
going
on
and
there's
like
a
little
Nook
on
the
back
of
the
historic
Farmhouse
for
an
elevators.
That's
the
Baseline.
E
Got
it
then
I
think
from
looking
at
the
roof
lines
of
all
of
them
again,
I
would
say
option
two
just
because
it
continues
the
lines
of
the
roof
and
I
know
that
there
are
lots
of
different
waterproofing
measures
that
can
be
put
in,
but
I
think
from
a
water
perspective.
With
the
original
structure.
It
keeps
everything
sloping
away.
N
N
Up,
no,
that's
that's
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
and
just
you
said
what
I
was
going
to
suggest
that
there's
really
three
different
options.
You
all
are
thinking
through.
So
if
you
could
refer
to
them
as
Baseline
alternative
one
and
alternative
two
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
design
team
gets.
The
gets.
Accurate
feedback
is
all
right.
L
Sure
so
I
just
want
to
say
just
as
a
consideration.
It's
a
bit.
L
With
the
design
moving
forward,
this
is
just
kind
of
a
generic
comment,
as
you're
thinking
through
the
feedback
that
you
might
give
us.
Is
that
we're
thinking
hard
about
sort
of
both
visual
Aesthetics,
but
also
the
long-term
durability
and
maintenance,
given
the
the
proposed
use.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
thinking
about
is
Simplicity
ease
of
Maintenance
moving
forward.
L
So
to
the
point,
what
made
me
think
of
it
was
Rebecca's
comment
about
the
this
more
Simplicity
in
terms
of
waterproofing
you
know
is
this
is
good,
and
particularly
pertinent
and
perhaps
more
pertinent
as
we
get
into
the
conversation
about
materials.
So,
if
you
know
we're
talking
about
this.
C
L
A
permanent
home
for
large
residents
as
long
as
the
structure
stands,
and
we
want
that
structure
to
stand
as
long
as
possible,
and
so
as
we're
thinking
about
sort
of
how
we
would
go
about
maintaining
resourcing
materials.
If
a
you
know,
a
tree
branch
falls
on
the
roof
and
you,
depending
on
what
material
might
be
easier
to
quickly
and
rapidly
fix
that
issue
than
another.
L
Particularly
given
you
know,
the
older
part
of
the
structure
will
always
require
some
TLC,
given
its
age
and
condition
so
I
just
want
to
throw
those
that
can
the
the
as
we're
thinking
about
design.
We
want
to
think
about
the
Simplicity
and
durability
and
materials
moving
forward.
Given
the
programming
for
the
home
moving
forward.
E
Yeah
I
think
going
off
of
that
would
just
reaffirm
that
alternate
option.
Two,
in
my
mind,
from
those
perspectives
has
that
clean
roofline
that
would
really
Aid
in
the
maintenance
perspective.
G
Amari
yeah
yeah
sure
thing
I
would
agree
that
that
alternate
option
two
definitely
provides
sort
of
the
cleanest
roof
line
or
probably
present
the
sort
of
the
best
sort
of
watershedding
characteristics.
I
did
have
sort
of
One
Design
sort
of
a
comment
question
it.
It
would
be
nice
potentially
to
see
some.
Some
I
mean
it's
sort
of
going
against
what
I
said
earlier,
but
it
would
be.
It
would
be
nice
to
see
some
dimension
in
in
the
high
of
the
roofs
between
the
existing
I
guess.
G
The
existing
original
tenant,
I,
guess
portion
of
the
house
and
also
the
the
the
new
Edition
there,
particularly
I,
guess,
look
looking
at
the
view
from
the
southeast
I
think
that
I
think
that
I
definitely
think
the
practicality
of
having
one
one,
continuous
Gable
line,
sort
of
from
sort
of
I
guess
from
from
page
south
to
North
definitely
works,
definitely
has
some
benefits,
but
I
think.
If,
if
we
do
choose
an
option,
it
would
be
nice
to
see
some
some
ways
to
offer.
G
Perhaps
differentiation
between
the
heights
of
the
existing
and
the
and
the
new
I
think
in
general,
though
I
think
I'm.
Definitely
a
fan
of
the
three
I'm.
Definitely
a
fan
of
alternate
option,
two
for
sure
I,
like
I
like
the
way
the
masking
works
together
and
that's
one
thing:
I
just
want
to
thank
the
design
team
for
all
their
hard
work
and
and
all
the
good
options
here
today.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
D
All
right,
well
I'll
jump
in
then
I
I
I
tend
to
agree
that
option
two
makes
the
most
sense,
although
I
do
have
criticisms
of
it.
I
think,
particularly
looking
at
the
view
from
Northwest.
D
And
I
think
you
know
if,
if
it
could
be
broken
down
in
some
way
or
had
Dormers
added
something
to
make
it
more,
you
know-
perhaps
even
you
know,
except
it
probably
doesn't
work
with
the
function
inside
some
a
porch
or
something
something
to
make
it
and
break
it
scale
down,
because
it
just
feels
very
institutional
to
me.
D
You
know
in
fact,
exactly
the
sort
of
thing
you
see
on
on
facilities
like
this.
That
are,
you
know
that
that
have
you
know
that
are
have
modern.
You
know
modern
construction
and
so
I
I
think
something
needs
to
be
done
to
to
kind
of
bring
it
more
in
line
with
the
sort
of
the
historic
character
of
the
house.
D
Looking
from
the
south
east
I
I
am
also,
as
Amari
was
a
little
bit
bothered
by
the
you
know
the
continuous
Gable
line
that
you
know
that
extends
off
of
the
that
original
section
and
I'm
a
little
bit
bothered
that
it.
You
know
that
we've
lost
the
original
section.
Almost
it's
almost
buried
now
in
the
middle
of
the
house.
On
the
other
hand,
I
liked
the
way
you
resurrected
the
little
porch
the
little
cutout
at
the
end
as
I
think
that
that
really
helps
and
I
wonder.
D
If
they're
you
know,
perhaps
you
know
there's
more
that
could
be
done
to
to
break
this
down
but
on
the
whole
I
think
as
from
a
roof
line.
This
makes
the
most
sense,
the
other.
D
The
other
criticism
that
I
have
is
on
the
front
and
I
think
Andy
alluded
to
this
somewhat,
the
port
one
of
the
to
me
having
been
there
and
spent
some
actually
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
you
know
walking
around
and
to
me
the
the
most
wonderful
part
of
this
house
is
the
porch
and-
and
it's
it's
wonderful,
because
you
you
have
this
incredible
sitting
on
the
porch.
You
have
this
incredible
view
across
this
park.
That
is,
you
know,
because
it's
a
park
is
never
going
to
go
away.
D
They're
not
gonna,
build
townhouses.
You
know
in
in
front
of
you,
and
so
it's
an
incredible
asset
and
and
I
find
it
a
little
bit.
I
find
it
a
little
bit
awkward
that
you've
chosen
to
put
the
ramp
across
the
front
of
it
when
it
really
should
be
a
place
for
you
know
for
the
for
everybody
in
the
house
to
come
out
and
sit
sit
out
on
the
porch
and
and
watch
the
people
bicycle
by
in
the
distance
and
and
so
forth.
D
So
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
you
rethink
how
and
also
it's
it
is
from
a
historic
preservation.
Point
of
view.
I
think,
as
Andy
mentioned,
is
one
of
the
most
important
parts
of
this
house
and
particularly
in
the
way
that
it
meets
the
ground.
You
know
where
it's
it's
a
very
it's
you,
it's
a
very
it's
not
very
high
above
the
ground
and
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
really
connects
this
house
to
the
landscape.
D
So
I
would
I
would
look
at
finding
a
different
way
to
you
know
to
ramp
up.
You
know
onto
the
porch,
probably
down
at
the
other
end,
somehow,
and
and
also
to
somehow
maybe
my
and
I
know.
This
is
tough
because
of
the
pipe
stem
that
that
you've
been
handed
in
terms
of
the
site
boundaries,
but
the
it
it
strikes
me
having
the
parking
lot
right.
Next
to
this
part,
porch
is
take
something
away
from
it.
D
So
if
there
was
something
that
could
be
done,
you
know,
at
least
with
you
know,
by
moving
the
ramp
and
then
maybe
putting
some
Landscaping.
You
know
to
kind
of
Shield
the
parking
a
little
bit
from
from
the
port
so
that,
when
you're
sitting
on
the
porch,
what
you,
what
you
see
is
not
a
parking
lot
off
to
your
off
to
your.
D
You
know
off
to
your
left,
but
but
this
park
that
that
opens
out
in
front
of
you
and
and
I
you
know,
I
I
think
you
should
be
able
to
do
something
along
those
lines
and
I.
Think
that
would
really
it
would
I
I
think
it
would
respect
the
historic
house
better,
but
it
would
also
add
I
think
an
incredible
amenity
to
this
to
this
house.
I
mean
you
know,
for
the
residents
to
to
be
able
to
just
go
out
and
sit
out
sit
out
in
chairs
on
the
porch.
D
There
would
be
really
really
pretty
nice
I
think
so
anyway.
Those
are
those
are
my
comments
and
I
and
I.
You
know
I
also
I
also
support.
Some
of
the
other
comments
about
you
know
trying
to
distinguish
between
the
old
and
the
new,
but
my
my
main
comment
about
the
the
option
two
is
is
to
try
to
break
it
down
a
little
bit
more
to
to
make
it.
D
You
know
particularly
the
long,
the
long
Wing
to
to
to
give
it
a
smaller
scale,
so
that
it
it
fits
better
with
the
house
but
anyway,
but
I
also
want
to
compliment
you
on
on
some
really
some
really
nice
work
and
and
and
and
we
all
appreciate
what
you're
doing.
A
And
can
I
ask
any
direction
towards
the
Dormer
great.
D
I
think
the
Dormer
to
you
meet
up
at
the
attic
to
take
care
of
the
stair
yeah
yeah
I
think
that
that
I
I'm
fine
with
it
I
think
I
prefer
the
the
shed
Dormer.
Is
there
a
shed
Dormer.
D
A
And
Andy
I
just
want
to
clarify,
did
you
you
said
you
kind
of
didn't,
really
have
a
preference
between
Baseline
alternative
one
or
alternative
two,
but
now
that
you've
kind
of
hurt
everybody?
Are
you
still
leaning
that
way.
F
This
major,
the
Physicians,
obviously
accepted
peace.
To
me,
it's
sort
of
more
like
what
happened?
Is
it
really
Stanley
and
those
other
first
increase,
but
that's
I
I
could
live
with
any
of
those
options.
I
I
think
it
should
be.
F
C
A
Us,
okay:
Cynthia:
do
you
have
your
hand
up.
N
Yeah
thanks
Lauren,
since
we're
talking
about
shapes
I
I,
just
wanted
to
to
ask
the
DRC
members
to
share
their
feelings
so
on
the
Baseline
option
and
I
believe
on
option
one.
The
one
story:
Wing
reads
as
a
front
Gable,
whereas
an
option
two
which
seems
to
be
more
of
the
preference
from
what
we're
hearing
it
has
more
of
a
cross
Gable
and
just
wondering
if
DRC
members
had
a
strong
preference
in
terms
of
the
of
that
roof
shape
and
that
orientation
of
the
building.
N
I
think
when
staff
was
working
with
the
with
the
design
team
on
some
of
the
earlier
iterations.
One
of
the
comments
that
we
kept
coming
back
to
is
how
the
front
Gable
feature
almost
reads
like
a
detached
out
building
the
way
that
it's
oriented
on
the
site,
and
so
we
kind
of
saw
that
as
a
positive,
given
that
this
has
been
an
agricultural
property
since
since
its
beginning
and
that
just
lent,
we
thought
that
lent
an
interesting
approach
to
perhaps
bringing
like
an
outbuilding
type
feeling
back
to
the
design.
N
D
Well,
that
I'll
I'll
start
the
the
the
I
I
I,
understand
that
point
of
view,
and
that's
I
actually
started
off
thinking
that
as
well
and
but
the
the
thing
is.
Is
it
strikes
me
as
being
it's
right
to
me
as
being
a
relatively
large
piece
that
to
me,
you
know,
starts
to
challenge
the
house
a
little
bit.
You
know
and
it's
it's
and
then
in
its
form.
It's
not
really.
It
doesn't
really
feel.
D
Like
a
you
know,
an
agriculture
bit
building
and
I
I
think
a
large
agriculture
building
like
that
wouldn't
be
that
close
to
the
house
anyway.
It'd
be
a
little
bit
further
further
away
if
it
was
a
barn
or
something,
and
so
it
seemed
like.
You
know
that
if,
if
you're
gonna
do
an
addition
to
the
house
that
it
made
more
sense
to
just
have
the
house
continue
to
ramble,
you
know
you
know
around
that's.
Why
I
think
that
the
even
the
the
cross
Gable
needs
some
articulation
I!
Think
it's
just
it's
too!
D
You
know
it's
just
too
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word
brutal,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
the
kind
of
smaller
scale
and
the
Finesse
of
the
of
the
of
the
house.
That's
there
and
and
I
and
I
worry
about
you
know
either
of
them,
but
I.
You
know,
I
I
think
it.
It
might
be
possible
to
to
also
articulate
the
the
option
one
scheme
in
such
a
way
that
it
it
it
broke
it
down
some
more
and
made
that
more
interesting,
I
I'd
certainly
be.
D
You
know,
willing
to
look
at
it,
but
I
think
what
I
didn't
like
about.
That
was
the
the
view
from
the
rear,
where
you
then
get
this
kind
of
this
kind
of
double
Gable
thing
it.
It's
I,
don't
know
it's
this
sort
of,
as
opposed
to
just
having
the
I
I
liked
the
way
that
the
I,
like
that,
the
way
the
be
on
option
two,
the
way
they
replicated
the
little
porch
cut
out
and
and
then
the
you
know,
the
wing
just
sort
of
takes
off.
D
You
know
off
to
the
side
it
gives
it
gives
more
much
more
prominence
to
the
end
of
the
house,
and
you
know
the
the
sort
of
the
projected
original
facade
you
know
almost
as
if
you
took
the
original
facade
and
moved
it
out.
You
know
to
the
end
of
that
Edition
it.
It
seems
to
me
to
preserve
the
character
of
the
back
of
the
house,
better,
the
option
too,
that
that's
how
that's
how
my
thinking
evolved.
F
N
F
K
F
F
B
I
have
a
small
comment,
which
is
we're
talking
big
picture
right
now
and
I've
noticed
it
mostly
on
the
Baseline
of
alternate
one
and
that's
an
alternate
too.
So
if
we
go
toward
that,
may
not
be
a
problem
but
I'm
seeing
large
expenses
of
unbroken
signing
and
I
realize.
We've
not
talked
about
materiality
at
all
and
you.
You
are
trying
to
focus
on
low
maintenance
options,
but
I
just
thought
it's
in
particular
on
the
extrusions
like
when
you're
looking
at
it
from
the
southeast
and
so
I
just
thought.
B
If
we
could
eventually
consider
something
like
false
Windows
represented
by
closed
shutters
or
something
that
could
break
up
that
surface
without
actually
impeding
any
of
your
operations
and
just
be
something
so
that
because
we,
we
only
tend
to
see
large
swaths
of
unbroken
siding
on
very
modern
structures,
and
it
tends
to
also
give
away
the
composite
materiality
or
vinyl.
Siding
tends
to
be
like
that.
You
don't
tend
to
see
it
with
wood.
Very
much
because
would
have
died,
but
it
is
extremely
minor.
This
may
not
be
something
that
you're
going
to
do.
A
We
were
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
to
Circle
back.
We
were
talking
again
about
the
orientation
of
the
rear,
Edition,
umari
and
Rebecca.
Did
you
have
any
input
you
wanted
to
put
submit
to
what
Robert
and
Andy
said.
G
Not
too
much
more
to
add
I
would
I
guess,
I
would
just
sort
of
echo
what
Robert
said.
I
think
that
I
think
that
the
the
long
sort
of
gable
or
long
the
option
to
the
sort
of
long
sort
of
more
brutal
Edition
that
should
be
broken
up
in
some
way,
not
really
sure
what
the
answer
for
it
is.
But
but
that
should
be
broken
up
into
some
way.
A
Okay,
there
was
a
couple
of
different
ways.
We
thought
this
was
going
to
go,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
go
with
our
original
plan,
which
was
to
have
you
all
continue
to
refine
based
on
this
feedback
and
then
come
back
to
the
DRC
in
April
and
basically
what
everybody
seems
very
comfortable
with
the
shed
roof
or
the
Dormer
and
I.
Think
if
everybody
agrees
to
have
you
all
continue,
refining
alternative
to
I
would
imagine
when
we
get
to
that
point
where
we
would
go
to
the
hlrb.
N
Thank
you.
No
I
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
to
thank
Scott
and
and
all
of
our
partners
here
for
really
your
willingness
to
work
with
staff
behind
the
scenes
to
get
to
tonight
and
for
being
open
and
flexible
to
kind
of
hearing
our
initial
feedback
and
before
we
finish
for
the
evening,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
Scott
and,
and
others
do
you
feel
you
have
sufficient
direction.
A
J
End
and
I,
you
know
I
I,
appreciate
Robert's
comments
on
on
in
in
the
front
porch.
You
know
in
the
ramp
visually
obstructs
that
it's
not
a
better
place
for
a
ramp.
I
know
that,
but
we
will
study
it
for
sure
and
come
back
with
some
Alternatives,
but
we
can
certainly
get
in
the
there's
a
side
door
at
the
end
of
the
Edition,
both
for
egress,
but
it's
also
an
access
point.
J
B
A
Just
so
that
the
DRC
note
the
when
we're
going
to
be
working
with
the
team
through
a
March
and
into
April,
the
only
thing
that
is
necessary
right
now
eventually
is
for
the
hlrb
to
provide
a
conditional,
COA
and
so
understand
that
as
we're
coming
up
with
the
the
mass
scene,
confirming
that
that's
what
everybody's
comfortable
with
and
then
I'm
sure
we
can
get
into
a
little
bit
more.
A
Maybe
details
about
the
materials,
possibly
during
the
April
DRC,
but
all
of
the
details
that
can
be
figured
out
farther
into
the
future,
but
as
long
as
they
at
least
have
an
additional
COA
that
the
hlrb
is
comfortable
with
how
the
addition
is
being
proposed.
That
is
really
what
the
project
team
needs
to
move
forward
with
the
understanding
they
will
need
to
come
back
with
some
of
the
extra
details
in
the
future,
because
this
is
a
nice
long,
new
partnership.
Hopefully
so,
okay.