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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Full Council Meeting on Thursday then 29th of July 2021 at 6.30pm
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E
Lord,
in
terms
of
the
minutes
on
item
c210,
slash
2021,
it's
just
a
word
of
thanks
to
olga
and
to
dawn
from
the
chief
executive
staff
for
for
the
update
on
the
boundary
signage.
I
certainly
understand
that,
because
we're
working
across
across
multiple
sites
with
multiple
owners
and
so
on,
it
is
a
complex
situation,
but
if
it
were
possible
for
officers
to
furnish
members
with
the
list
of
29
sites,
that
might
be
helpful.
E
So
so
that
would
be
a
request.
A
question
would
be
in
terms
of
the
rule
out
of
all
of
this
from
this
point
on
have
officers,
given
any
consideration
as
to
you
know,
if
we,
if
we
get
approval
for
one
two
or
three
sites,
will
that
happen
or
are
we
waiting
until
all
29
are
approved
before
we
actually
roll
out
on
the
ground?
So
that
would
be
a
question
and
lord
mark.
Thank
you
for
your
your
indulgence.
E
If
it
would
be
helpful
that
we
that
we
get
a
ladder
from
council
to
road
service
on
this
issue,
I'm
certainly
happy
to
propose,
and
in
conclusion
I
certainly
hope
that
as
a
council
and
as
a
corporate
body
that
we
are
that
we
are
working
towards
having
this
job
completed
by
the
end
of
the
mandate.
So
that
would
just
be
a
comment
if
officers
want
to
get
back
to
me
at
some
stage
after
tonight,
that's
ground,
but
thank
you,
lord
murph,
for
your
indulgence.
A
G
I
appreciate
you
bringing
me
in
here:
it's
it's
slightly
different,
it's
under
the
committee
minutes
and
due
to
the
fact
that
we
have
an
absence
of
the
leisure
committee
meeting
over
the
summer.
Could
I
request
that
we
could
revisit
that
forum
where
we
had
previously
to
discuss
the
south
lake
leisure
center.
G
I've
been
speaking
to
a
number
of
other
councillors,
and
I
know
that
I'm
not
the
only
one
that
is
receiving
a
barrage
of
issues
and
complaints
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
forum
in
which
we
can
actually
discuss
those,
and
I
thought
this
was
the
best
place
to
actually
come
in
and
ask
that
under
committee
minutes.
And
it's
just.
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
good
clear.
G
You
know
cross
party,
all
the
different
councillors
having
an
opportunity
to
bring
forward
all
of
the
issues
rather
than
them
coming
in
from
all
angles,
because
I
have
received
six
complaints
today
alone
of
different
issues,
and
I
know
that
I'm
not
the
only
counselor
a
lord
mayor,
that's
receiving
these.
So
I
think
it
would
be
very,
very
useful
for
us
to
to
have
some
form
for
him,
but
we
need
it.
You
know
like
asap.
A
B
F
B
I
raised
with
mark-
and
I
appreciate
he's
on
the
eve
now
on
monday
night,
and
but
there
is
a
few
things
I
think
around
the
table
discussion.
Even
I
want
to
meet
to
see
where
we're
going
to
move
forward,
but
I
think
it
needs
to
be
done
are
organized
as
a
matter
of
urgency,
because
there
seems
to
be
a
few.
H
B
And
there
probably
is
reasonable
explanations
to
youth
covert
and
all
that,
but
I
think
when
we
need
to,
we
need
to
thrash
those
out
because
as
elected
representatives
and
we're
getting
a
barrage
at
the
moment,
especially
this
last
week
or
so,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
second.
What
country
has
proposed
tonight.
I
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
I
suppose
just
to
say
as
well.
You
know
people
are
always
going
to
be
quick
to
lift
the
phone
to
complain.
So
it's
not
a
reflection
on
how
the
center
is
doing.
On
the
whole,
the
center
is
a
credit
to
the
staff
and
and
counselors
will
totally
agree
with
that.
But
the
people
left
the
phone
when
they're
frustrated
or
annoyed
and
they're
left
on
the
phone
dios,
and
I
would
go
a
step
further
and
even
look
for
a
working.
J
I
Around
the
south
lake
leisure
center,
I
think
perhaps
in
my
mind
the
board
was
stood
down
just
a
wee
bit
too
early,
and
I
feel
that
the
members
in
particular,
because
I,
if
the
traffic
comes
to
us
mainly
it
would
be
helpful.
It
would
not
be
a
decision-making
body
more.
A
forum
that
makes
regular
because,
what's
going
to
happen
inevitably
is
the
same.
People
at
our
phone
and
counselor
tinsley
are
are
phoning.
I
H
B
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
I
am
happy
with
that.
I
suppose
might
be
slightly
just
slightly
different
country.
Nelson
may
agree
with
me
and
in
terms
of
the
dea
members,
understand
why
that
would
be
because
they'd
probably
get
the
bulk
of
them,
but
there's
a
fact:
it's
a
fact.
We
had
pairs
from
right
across
and
the
complaints
I'm
getting
aren't
from
central
members
they're
from
members
and
my
dea.
That's
why
we're
brought
up
tonight.
So
I
think
it
should
be
open
to
all
members
whether
they
want
to
come
or
not,
as
opposed
to
different,
but.
D
Roger
thank
you
lord
mayor.
If
members
would
be
happy
that
I
can
maybe
try
and
go
away,
I
understand
there's
an
urgency
around
this,
but
trying
to
get
a
working
group
set
up.
We
can
see
some
of
the
complications
around
which
members
we
do
have
an
arrangement
in
place
as
to
how
many
members
from
each
party
and
all
so
if
members
would
be
happy
that
I
can
take
this
away
very
very
quickly
and
come
back
with
something
talk
of
three
party
leaders
to
try
and
help
you
address
those
issues.
D
One
of
the
things
we
are
trying
to
do
is
reduce
the
number
of
working
groups
rather
than
increase
them,
and
we
have
just
stood
this
working
group
down
or
the
the
committee
down,
but
equally
there's
a
need
for
a
forum
based
on
what
members
are
saying.
So
if
you'd
be
happy
members,
I
will
do
something
very
quickly
and
work
through
party
leaders
and
the
chair
of
leisure
committee
and
come
back
with,
hopefully
something
that
can
accommodate
what
you
need.
A
Have
enough
members
see
everybody
shaking
their
head?
Yes,
yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Members
move
on
I'll
agreed
with
4.1
yep.
Thank
you
agenda
on
five
chief
executive
report,
5.1,
which
is
the
reprieve
approval
of
the
letter
of
offer
from
the
northern
ireland
museum's
council,
I'm
going
to
bring
in
bran.
K
Thank
you,
lord
maron
good
evening
members.
So
this
report
relates
to
the
request,
is
for
approval
of
a
letter
of
offer
from
northern
ireland
museums,
council
and
the
recommendation
before
members
is.
It
is
recommended
that
members
accept
a
letter
of
offer
from
northern
ireland
museums
council
for
funding
to
purchase
two
collages
for
arma
county
museum
collection.
Thank
you.
A
On
second
day,
alderman
spears,
any
other
comments
well
great.
Thank
you.
Members,
5.2,
dear
consultation
on
the
introduction
of
traditional
animal
welfare
protections
for
service
animals
in
northern
ireland,
known
as
finn's
law,
which,
incidentally,
is
my
dad's
dog
his
name.
So
do
we
have
any
quick
queries
answer
salvage.
A
N
We
speak
about
brexit,
but
allegedly
such
will
be
available
south
of
the
border,
and
the
regulation
is
not
ruled
out,
as
I
understand
it
in
uk
as
yet.
So
I
posed
a
question
to
through
our
chief
executive
to
our
public
health
officials
to
further
investigate
this
matter.
The
ramifications
for
number
one,
the
food
chain,
the
ramification
for
the
the
manufacturing
of
animal
food
and,
indeed,
more
importantly,
the
food
that
we
all
eat.
I
I
think
there
is
major
ramifications
here
that
have
yet
been
on
covered
and
not
talked
about.
N
A
O
O
O
A
P
Thank
you,
lord
mayor
members.
This
report
is
to
bring
to
your
attention
the
nilga
regional
program
for
council
development
for
2021-22
there's
two
elements
of
the
program.
One
relates
to
planning
and
the
other
is
an
accredited
leadership
program.
The
planning
committee
already
considered
the
planning
elements.
This
report
is
to
seek
approval
for
councillors
to
participate
in
the
accredit
accredited
leadership
programme
should
they
wish
to
do
so
and
if
they
do
so
to
contact
democratic
services.
To
that
end,
thank
you.
A
A
K
A
A
A
Members
and
listeners
to
the
audio
feed
in
accordance
with
science,
sex
of
the
local
government
act.
We
now
be
moving
at
the
confidential
session
of
the
government
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we'll
be
turning
off
the
public
audio
feed
at
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
Can
I
ask
ict
officers
to
please
turn
off
the
audio
feed
and
confirm
with
me
that
the
confidential
section
of
the
meeting
can
proceed.
A
Q
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
bring
this
to
members
again
somewhere.
I
remember
when
I
first
brought
this
so
for
those
who
don't
just
a
bit
of
background
welsh
government,
I
announced
a
memorandum
of
understanding
regarding
a
children's
general
fund.
In
november
scotland,
they
did
similar
on
the
30th
may
2018.
Q
Q
We
are
still
the
only
part
of
the
uk
where
the
cost
of
a
barrel
of
a
child
under
18
will
not
be
covered
by
a
children's
funeral
fund
and
don't
get
me
wrong
members.
I
feel
very,
very
proud
that
this
chamber
has
always
supported
me
with
this
from
when
I
first
brought
this
issue
to
members
back
in
april
of
2018.
Q
I
feel
very
proud
that
we
were
the
first
council
in
northern
ireland
to
waive
burial
fees.
The
rest
swiftly
followed
suit.
They
did
so
because
it
is
a
good
thing
to
do
and
they
did
so
because
it
is
the
right
thing
to
do
from
the
1st
of
june
2018
when
the
scheme
started
here
in
abc
council,
the
second
biggest
council
of
northern
ireland.
As
we
know,
1077
burials
of
those
under
18,
took
place.
Q
This
this
mitigation
amounted
to
a
council
spend
of
around
3
500.
That
breakdown
is
available
to
all
members.
There's
only
one
cemetery
didn't
report,
but
they
had
a
an
idea
of
what
it
would
be,
I'm
not
going
to
linger
in
statistics
because
they
all
refer
to
a
grieving
and
heartbroken
family
who
we
must
remember
at
all
times
in
these
discussions.
Q
Q
Q
This
is
despite
it
being
noted
in
new
decade,
new
approach.
I
am
utterly
appalled
at
this
stagnation
members.
Instead,
I
am
now
receiving
the
same
response.
I
did
when
we
had
no
ministers
with
one
slight
difference
members.
They
are
now
using
the
fact
that
council
have
their
own
mitigation
schemes
in
place.
In
my
view,
that
is
entirely
unfair.
Q
Q
We
see
at
long
last,
consultations
launched
on
parental
bereavement
leave
and
just
yesterday,
the
consultation
on
changing
places,
toilet
legislation.
Wonderful,
but
with
this
we
have
silence.
What
we
have
done
in
council
was
only
ever
a
stop
gap.
It
was
a
sense
of
intention.
If
you
will,
members-
and
now
it
is
being
used
to
disguise
in
action
july-
is
annually
recognized
as
bereaved
parents
awareness
month
a
month
dedicated
to
raising
awareness
of
the
support
necessary
when
one
endures
the
loss
of
a
child.
Q
Therefore,
I
bring
this
to
your
attention
yet
again
members
this
time
I
need.
I
need
your
support
again.
Every
one
of
you
considering.
We
were
the
first
council
in
northern
ireland
to
implement
a
form
of
mitigation
by
way
of
waving
grave
opening
fees.
I
feel
it
is
vitally
important
that
this
council
agrees.
Q
Q
A
A
H
So
if
that
could
be
brought
forward-
and
it
is
worth
noting
that
this
would
not
have
any
financial
implications
all
an
officer's
time,
but
I
think
it's
certainly
something
we
should
progress
in
particular
in
our
rural
times,
likes
of
tander,
gay
and
rapha
island
and
so
on.
So
if
that
could
be
maybe
progressed
by
officers,
that
would
be
great.
Lord
mayor,
thank
you.
J
Yes,
I'm
happy
enough
to
second
that
proposal
and
really
just
endorse
everything.
Council
has
already
said,
I
think,
particularly
in
our
rural
towns
and
villages,
and
it
gives
people
the
opportunity
to
put
forward
maybe
proposes,
like
a
small
market
or
farmers
market
to
increase
footfalls,
so
I
think,
looking
into
that
will
do
no
harm.
So
I'm
happy
enough
to
second
that
proposal.
Thank
you.
L
Yeah
thanks
lord
maron
and
yeah
the
the
proposal,
no
issue
with
the
proposal
at
all.
However,
I
just
want
to
point
out
a
couple
of
things.
First
thing
is:
there
is
an
agricultural
strategy
being
a
at
the
moment
within
this
council
and
an
agri-food
strategy,
so
I
do
think
that
you
know
there
was
a
first
section
was
to
the
farming
community
and
I
suppose
it's
what
is
a
farmer's
market?
You
know
it
has
to
be
led
by
the
farmers
it.
L
So
look
there
needs
to
be
a
real
study
in
this,
and
I
know
that
it's
been
referred
to
that
there
was
a
study
to
be
done
through
economic
development
and
the
regeneration
department,
and
it
was,
I
think,
therese
was
leading
on
it
and
it
didn't
really
go
anywhere
so
I'll
go.
I
I
would
task
you
in
in
relation
to.
I
know
nicola
is
the
the
new
officer
in
charge
of
markets.
I
think
the
doors
need
to
be
a
real
hard
look
at
this.
L
It's
it's
easy
going
for
a
sound
bite
and
saying
it's
a
great
idea,
and
it
is
don't
get
me
wrong,
but
that
needs
to
be
buy-in
right
across
the
board
because,
as
a
city,
if
it
is
becoming
a
competition
to
our
local
shops,
that's
not
going
to
help
our
local
shops
recover
after
covert.
So
that's
the
only
point
I
want
to
make
lord
murr,
but
I'm
hopping
off
of
the
proposal.
I
think
it
was
like,
but
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
the
attention
of
officers.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
lord
mark
lord
mark.
Just
I'd
agree
with
the
sentiments,
the
whole
thing,
but
markets.
There
was
a
survey
done
in
one
of
the
towns,
and
I
think
it
was
close
to
70
percent
in
one
market
so
then,
but
assist
definition
of
a
farmer's
market,
as
what
council
nicholson
has
highlighted
here
too,
and
that's
what
we
need
to
be
careful
too,
I
think
the
oldest
market
in
the
uk
is
bath
in
england,
so
it
is,
and
that
is
connecting
into
the
artisanal
foods.
M
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
artisan
foods
within
our
area.
We
have
a
private
group
that
is
doing
a
food
market
every
month
now,
so
we
have
within
the
area
which
is
to
be
commended,
but
markets
have
to
complement
the
existing
businesses
not
compete
with
the
existing
businesses.
That's
in
the
area,
that's
what
we
need
to
be
doing,
and
we
need
to
be
looking
at
that.
It
has
to
be
a
careful
study
that
is
done
because
we
need
to
be
supporting
the
farming
community.
M
As
we
know,
and
as
councilor
nicholson
has
alluded
to
the
surveys
that
are
out
at
the
moment
that
the
farmers
one
has
completed
the
agri-food
one
has
been
done
and
there's
no
point
trying
to
grab
a
headline
local
paper
about
sharing
about
a
farmers
market
whenever
you
haven't
done
the
homework
on
the
whole
thing,
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
be
doing
here
and
I
suppose
the
right
place
for
that
is
taking
it
back
into
economic
development,
and
the
report
been
done
there.
Thank
you.
Lord
man,.
R
I
and
I
wouldn't
like
to
be
starting
in
some
of
our
rural
towns
when
somebody
would
come
up
with
their
stalls
and
the
local
butcher,
the
local
vegetable
shop
and
all
of
those
different
shops
that
have
provided
food
even
during
covert
and
delivery
services
to
find
that
we're
paying
our
rent
and
our
rates.
And
then
a
farmer,
a
farmer's
market
appears
in
the
former
maiden
even
the
local.
He
could
be
30
40
miles
away.
That
goes
to
all
of
these
things
during
during
the
weeks.
R
So
I
think,
as
councillor
savages
says,
whatever
we
go
to
do,
it
must
complement
that
and
complement
our
terms,
and
I
think
we
need
to
work
with
the
the
abc
business
alliance
and
work
with
the
local
town
center
groups
that
are
there
so
that
it's
a
unified
approach
that
it's
not
just
our
council
have
decided
that
we
want
to
throw
a
market
into
a
rural
town.
Hey.
This
looks
brilliant
we're
supporting
our
local
farmers.
You
know
the
local
farmers
mates
in
the
butcher
shop
and
the
vegetables
and
everything
that's
there
is
being
provided
locally.
R
Our
biggest
problem
is
when
the
banks
close,
and
the
offices
that
are
currently
closed
because
of
covert,
there's
less
footfall,
so
maybe
the
economic
department-
and
I
know
they're
looking
at
that,
we
need
to
look
to
see
how
we
get
fitful.
I
don't
believe
this
is
the
way
to
do
it,
but
let
the
officers
go
away
and
look
into
it,
but
I
think
there's
other
innovative
approaches
that
we
should
be
adopting
to
help
our
town
centers.
R
N
Lord
mayor,
just
I
want
to
support
what
has
been
already
said
by
by
some
of
my
colleagues
in
in
relation
to
this
some
background.
Information
is
always
useful
in
these
things,
in
terms
of
markets
and
on
there's
some
markets
that
are
historic
and
there's
a
relatively
a
small
charge.
It's
a
they're
under
an
old
charter
and
they
provide
an
opportunity,
but
it
can
be
a
non-economic
opportunity
in
the
real
world
of
competition.
N
N
Let
it
be
I
remember
in
in
legacy
arm
our
country,
we
had
the
market
and
we
had
an
officer
to
promote
the
market.
I'm
not
sure
whether
that's
happening
now
or
not,
but
it's
all
part
of
this
equation
that
we
we
need
to
study
and
just
as
we
were
debating
this,
we
mentioned
someone
mentioned
banks,
and
may
I
say
that
we,
as
a
council
again
express
are
a
very,
very
strong
view
in
relation
to
the
closure
or
proposed
closure
of
more
banks
within
our
district.
N
N
N
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
for
letting
me
in
this
one
yeah,
certainly
in
terms
of
the
farmer's
mark
in
terms
of
the
farmers
markets,
happy
to
to
support
the
concept
of
of
them
being
well
thought
out
a
wee
bit
like.
I
think
it
was
councillor,
barry
and
perhaps
councillor
nicholson
said
you
know,
because
we
don't
want
them
taken
away
from
the
traders
that
are
there,
and
we
only
have
to
think
of
some
of
the
feedback
in
terms
of
the
christmas
markets
and
that's
always
an
issue
in
terms
of
the
traders
within
our
towns.
E
E
It's
perhaps
a
little
bit
ironic
some
of
the
comments
of
support
that
we're
hearing
this
evening,
given
that
we
had
an
opportunity
last
month
in
terms
of
the
climate
change
bill
which
will
absolutely
devastate
our
our
our
primary
production
sector.
But
anyway
I'll
say
I'll,
say
no
more
about
that,
but
certainly
in
terms
of
the
farmers
market
happy
to
support
well
thought
out
thanks,
lauren.