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Description
Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Planning and Regulatory Services Committee on Wednesday the 4th of May 2022 at 3.00pm in the Council Chamber at Craigavon Civic and Conference Centre
A
Services
committee
meeting
the
first
ending
agenda
is
apologies.
Now
I
have
a
few
apologies
here.
I've
got
one
from
our
sherman.
You
probably
worked
that
out.
I'm
not
peter
lowry,
so
counselor
larry
has
apologized
olga
murtagh.
The
strategic
director
has
apologized
and
also
counselor
sorcia
mcgill
of
any
other
apologies.
A
Members
bruce
stoneman
mouse,
okay,
right,
okay
and
that
all
the
apologies,
then
we've
got
alderman
wilson
as
well.
Okay,
okay,
nixon
agenda
is
item
two
and
opposed
to
just
take
those
as
the
meeting
moves
along
and
then
next
one
item.
The
agenda
is
number
three
and
that's
a
report
from
header
planning
so
over
you
damien.
B
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
afternoon
members,
members
I'll
briefly,
take
you
through
the
headlines
of
this
relatively
detailed
report,
which
relates
to
the
statistical
bulletin
produced
by
dfi
for
quarter
three
of
last
year.
You
will
note
that
the
number
of
applications
received
across
northern
ireland
was
approximately
12
down
on
the
same
quarter
of
the
previous
year.
In
contrast,
the
number
of
applications
decided
across
northern
ireland
was
8
up
on
the
same
quarter
the
previous
year.
That
pattern
was
replicated
during
quarter
three
within
our
own
council
area.
B
The
number
of
applications
received
was
been
20
died,
while
the
number
of
decisions
issued
was
33
up
now
that
increase
in
decisions
issued
is
attributable
to
the
commitment,
hard
work
of
our
staff
and
to
a
number
of
successful
changes
that
have
been
made
to
our
processes
recording
performance
members.
The
council
was
successful
in
meeting
two
of
its
three
statutory
targets.
B
B
We
were
10th
with
an
average
processing
time
of
23
weeks
and
while
that
was
disappointing,
members
will
be
aware
of
the
operational
challenges
that
covet
has
presented
for
local
applications
and
those
challenges
which
may
be
interested
to
know
that
during
quarters
3,
in
spite
of
those
challenges,
we
issued
the
fourth
highest
number
of
decisions
across
all
councils.
B
Members
may
also
wish
to
note
that
only
three
all
the
11
councils
managed
to
meet
the
target
for
local
applications
during
the
first
three
quarters
of
last
year
and
those
councils
received
significant
significantly
fewer
applications
than
ourselves
in
respect
of
enforcement.
We
were
the
fourth
best
performer
of
the
11th
councils,
concluding
yet
81
of
our
enforcement
cases
within
39
weeks,
which
significantly
exceeded
the
70
target,
an
agreement.
That's
a
very
positive
outcome.
B
A
Thank
you
damian
and
a
it
was
a
very
comprehensive
report
and
I
have
to
say,
stats
were
great
to
read
and
it
is
because
of
the
protocols
and
procedures
you've
put
in
place
and
and
obviously
the
hard
work
of
the
staff,
and,
I
suppose
from
the
committee.
I
want
you
to
sort
of.
A
Obviously
you
know
extend
that
thanks
to
the
staff,
we
do
appreciate
that
it's
been
a
difficult
time
and
hopefully
we're
now
seeing
a
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
sort
of
work
away
and
and
just
point
out
yourself.
Our
our
stats
are
good
in
relation
to
two
out
of
three
of
the
targets
so
and
the
local
applications.
Again.
We
appreciate
the
issues
there,
but
obviously
things
are
going
the
right
direction.
So
look
damian.
A
I
appreciate
of
a
couple
other
speakers
here,
but
just
want
to
record
that
email
just
made
thanks
and
obviously
thanks
to
the
committee.
C
Well,
mr
chairman,
really
just
to
reiterate
everything,
you've
said
there.
I
think
in
the
circumstances.
In
particular,
I
think
this
is
a
very
worthy
report
and
I
think
we
deserve
to
congratulate
the
head
of
planning
and
all
his
staff,
and
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
do
acknowledge
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
alderman
forever,
councilman
cloud.
D
D
B
Yeah
thanks,
sir,
and
thanks
members
for
your
for
kind
words
and
turn
into
a
particular
query:
constantly
cohen.
Yes,
it
the
enforcement
clock,
if
you
like,
starts
to
run
as
soon
as
the
enforcement
case
is
opened,
and
so
we
receive
a
complaint
by
whoever.
That
party
is-
and
we
open
the
case
and
then
that
that's
when
the
club
will
start
and
regarding
number
of
cases
that
we
have,
we
have
an
excess
of
400
enforcement
cases.
B
At
the
moment,
what
we
found
was
during
lockdown
enforcement,
the
number
of
complaints
around
enforcement
did
significantly
rise,
and-
and
we
think
that
was
due
to
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
people
were
furloughed
and
had
had
more
time
to
be
out
and
about
looking
at
the
environment
and
and
finding
things
that
they
felt
the
need
to
report
to
us,
and
so
that
has
happened.
We
have
added
some
resource
to
to
the
enforcement
team
to
ensure
that
we
are
managing
the
caseload,
and
so
the
numbers
are
high.
B
We'll
continue
to
meet
the
target,
though,
and
so
we
are
confident
that
we
will
go
the
right
way
in
terms
of
driving
our
numbers
down
by
continuing
the
statutory
target
for
enforcement.
A
Thank
you,
damon
see
coach
mcclellan.
Do
you
want
to
come
back
in.
B
Yeah,
certainly
the
numbers
arose
during
that
night,
wouldn't
say
that
the
majority
of
those
did
back
to
you
know
the
early
stages
of
lockdown,
but
I
suppose,
if
you're
looking
at
what
lockdown
covers,
I
mean
I'm
including
that
right
up
until
I
suppose,
fairly
recently,
but
certainly
up
until
around
the
end
of
2021,
and
so
that
would
be
the
period
that
I
would
be
referring
to.
E
Just
you
commented
there
by
targeting
the
resource,
mavic
2
to
the
enforcement
team,
honest
the
usual
questions
probably
asked
to
be
every
meeting
here
is:
how
are
we
getting
along
with
it
with
the
filling
of
vacancies,
or
are
we
still
targeting
over
time
to
try
and
catch
up?
It's
just
more
or
less.
The
current
update
that
I'm
asking
for
I
mean:
are
we
making
inroads
there?
Thank
you.
B
Yeah
thanks
chair
thanks
solomon
anderson.
In
relation
to
vacancies.
We
currently
have
a
vacancy
rate
of
around
12
within
the
department
we
have
five
vegan
posts,
one
long-term
sickness
absence
and
now
within
the
vacant
post,
three
those
are
planners
to
our
admin
and
but
the
admin
section
works
very
closely
with
our
our
planning
staff
to
assume
they're
integral
part
of
the
overall
function,
and
we
are
working
extremely
close
with
human
resources
to
fill
those
posts
and
very
often
what
happens.
B
Members
is
you're
successful,
maybe
fill
in
one
post,
but
it's
filled
internally,
which
creates
a
vacancy
somewhere
else
and
you're
no
better
off
in
terms
of
your
staff
and
numbers
and
but
there's
there's
obviously
nothing.
We
can
do
about
that.
That's
that's
part
of
the
process.
We
have
to
rule
with
that.
Members
will
recall
that
back
last
year
we
got
an
additional
funding
to
recruit
five
additional
planners
for
12
months.
We've
been
successful
in
appointing
three
of
those
five
they're
very
difficult
to
get.
B
You
know
we
appoint
someone
but
go
back
to
them
and
then
suddenly
they're
not
interested
in
the
post
anymore.
So
it's
very
challenging
for
us,
but
we
have
three
of
the
five
appointed
we're
continuing
to
try
and
recruit
the
other
two
and
with
regard
to
the
vegan
posts
and
the
long-term
sickness
absence
post.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
are
working
very
closely
with
human
resources
to
try
to
recruit
and
fill
those.
E
E
B
Yeah
thanks
chart
and
thanks
yeah
over
time
we
used
last
year.
I
think,
remember
explaining
the
members.
When
we
first
made
use
of
overtime,
it
was
to
try
and
keep
a
lid
on
the
numbers
so
that
when
we
recruited
the
additional
planners
we
could
start
to
drive
the
numbers
down.
Now
we
used
the
overtime
about
2
000
overtime
last
year
and
through
that
over
time
we
issued
around
430
decisions.
B
And
if
you
know
our
vacancy
rates
don't
improve
and
the
money
might
be
there,
we
could
certainly
make
use
of
it
again
because
it's
a
very
good
way
of
us
trying
to
drive
our
numbers
down,
which
is
the
direction
of
travel.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Damon
I've
counted
over
here.
F
G
B
Yeah
through
the
chart
yeah,
this
is
something
that
councilwide
it's
being
looked
at
at
the
moment.
It's
looking,
for
example,
that
you
know
apprenticeship
schemes.
You
know
taking
students
in
and
stores
that
are
going
going
within
the
council
to
look
at
what
might
be
done
another
because
there
are.
There
is
an
issue
here
of
trying
to
get
the
right
staff
at
the
right
time.
So
that
is
an
option
that
we
are
giving
some
thought
to,
but
there's
still
some
additional
work
to
be
done
on
that.
B
But
all
all
options
are
on
the
table
here
in
terms
of
how
we
can
and
be
more
successful
in
our
recruitment
exercise,
because
very
often
you
do
go
out
the
interview
and
you
don't
get
a
successful
candidate
or
you
point
and
then
suddenly
the
person
doesn't
take
the
job.
But
you
have
nobody
on
the
reserve
list.
So
yeah
all
options
are
on
the
table,
including
what
you
mentioned:
counselor
duffy,
yeah,.
A
A
B
Remember
sorry
that
this
is
a
an
update
just
on
on
live
case
loads,
but
there
is
a
an
element
of
this
that
you
might
somehow
understand
so
you'll
see
from
there
for
a
report
for
you
that
the
number
of
decisions
issued
during
april
was
98,
which
is
a
relatively
low
number
members,
but
looking
to
take
an
account
that
there
was
the
easter
holiday
period
in
the
middle
of
that
number
of
applications
received
in
april
was
one
two
three
123
and
the
number
of
live
applications
now
stands
at
just
over
a
thousand.
B
It's
and
ninety-five
number
of
call-ins
in
april
was
seven
and
with
regard
to
the
number
of
live
cases,
members
you'll
note
that
this
is
significantly
down
on
last
month's
figure,
which
was
just
over
fourteen
hundred
now.
The
reason
for
that
significant
reduction
is
explained
in
the
report,
but
in
summary,
it's
the
result
of
a
new
administrative
process
that
was
introduced
at
the
beginning
of
lockdown.
B
Members
will
recall
at
the
beginning
of
lockdown.
The
planning
offices
were
closed
for
a
period
of
time
and
when
they
reopened
a
manual
count
of
applications
that
were
received
and
registered
was
introduced.
At
that
time,
in
the
interest
of
ensuring
that
live,
caseload
numbers
were
being
recorded
as
accurately
and
robustly
as
possible.
B
Now
as
part
of
a
recent
review
undertaken
of
the
development
management
function
and
caseloads
officers
identified
that
the
planning
portal
was
also
counting
applications
that
were
registered
but
not
validated.
So
there
was
an
element
of
double
accounting.
B
Now
the
review
was
undertaken
in
order
to
invest,
to
get
interviews
on
taking
on
investigate
the
difference
between
the
portal
figures
and
those
that
we
had
been
reporting
now.
The
initial
discrepancy
between
the
two
sets
of
figures
would
have
been
relatively
small,
we're
looking
at
probably
about
eight
per
month,
but
over
time
that
difference
increased
and
became
a
bigger
number
which
led
us
to
investigate
what
the
issue
was
an
accurate
case.
B
Load
figure
is
now
identified
and
that's
one
reported
to
you
today,
members
of
1095.,
but
I
appreciate
you
may
have
some
queries
around
that
and
I'm
happy
to
take
those.
But
in
a
way
I
would
just
give
you
assurance.
It's
a
good
news
story.
The
numbers
are
actually
lower
than
what
they
have
been
reported.
A
Thank
you
damian
and,
and
apologies
for
moving
on
too
quickly
and
but
no,
I
think,
yeah.
I
agree
with
your
name.
That
is
a
good
news
story,
because
I
think
we're
we're
sort
of
thought
we're
looking
down
the
barrel
of
1442
but
actually
1085.
D
Yes,
sir,
it
absolutely
is
good
news
and
I
suppose
the
the
question
that
I
would
have
is
how
does
all
of
this
interface,
with
the
new
plan
and
portal
and
so
on
on
and
in
terms
of
the
time
scale,
on
the
rule
and
out
of
that,
please,
maybe
as
a
supplementary
thanks
chair.
B
Yeah
thanks
chart
yeah
thanks
coach,
mcclellan
yeah.
Look
at
the
whole
objective
of
the
new
planning
portal
is
to
give
us
a
a
an
I.t
system,
that's
fit
for
purpose
and
that's
set
up
for
the
new
two-tier
planning
system
and
not
the
one
that
was
in
existence
prior
to
transfer.
B
So
you
know
we
would
expect
that
issues
like
this
wouldn't
arise.
Now
the
old
system
there
was
a
facility
within
it
which
wasn't
evident
by
any
means
which
allowed
the
planning
portal
to
record
applications
that
were
registered
and
validated
officers
weren't.
Aware
of
that,
so
for
robustness
purposes,
we
were
counting
manually,
the
registered
ones
and
adding
them
to
the
ones
in
the
portal
which
were
valid.
B
But,
as
I
explained
earlier,
that
that's
that's
how
it
occurred.
There
was
no
material
accounting,
but
it
was
really
the
purposes
of
trying
to
give
us
an
accurate
picture
of
the
numbers.
But
I'll
answer.
Your
question
yeah
look
forward
to
the
uit
system
later
this
year,
which
which
hopefully
will
avoid
that
sort
of
problem.
A
Thank
you
damian,
and
I
suppose
one
one
good
thing
is
we're
getting
close
to
that
magic.
850
number
we
just
knocked
about
400
off
of
there.
So
no
it's
it's
it's!
It's!
That's!
That's
good,
because
the
figures
keep
going
the
way
they're
going
we'll
be
down
there
sooner
or
later,
okay,
members,
no
more
lights
on.
Do
you
mean
to
ask
you
complete,
I'm
now
going
to
go
to
tom
agenda
item
4,
which
is
report
from
me
at
a
billing
control?
Thank
you,
tom.
H
Item
members,
it's
a
request
for
the
naming
of
a
housing
development
system
of
15
dwellings
and
the
science
located
of
the
gilbertstown
road
in
logan
and
master
and
appendix
one
and
as
members
will
see,
the
applicant's
preferred
name
of
the
development
is
forest
lien
and
the
applicant's
reason
for
the
preferred
name
is
that
the
site
is
situated
in
the
ankle
ward
and
one
of
the
original
meanings
of
the
shanghai
ward
is
old
forest,
so
officers
of
assassin
deemed
it
to
be
appropriate,
and
the
recommendation
therefore,
is
for
members
approval,
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
Thank
you,
counselor,
nothing.
Okay,
members
got
a
proposer
and
a
seconder
and
for
the
the
recommendation
I'll
agree.
H
Thank
you,
chair
you're,
sending
four
pointers
for
information.
A
signed
petition
has
been
received
by
the
council
requesting
to
rename
and
renumber
a
section
of
the
greenwall
road
in
kiri
and
to
old
school
liam,
as
members
will
see
in
the
appendix
2.
This
is
the
particular
section
is
shaded
in
pink
and
it's
a
tail
end
off
of
the
main
grandma
road.
H
So,
in
accordance
with
the
council's
policy,
officers
have
confirmed
that
the
names
and
the
petition
against
the
electoral
register
and
the
minimum
one-third
number
of
signatures
has
been
confirmed
by
those
living
on
the
road.
So
at
this
point
the
council
shall
now
survey
all
persons
have
acted
by
the
proposed
naming
and
numbering
and
seeking
their
opinions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
tom.
Okay,
remember,
you've,
heard
tom,
you
happy
to
note
or
has
any
questions.
Oh
I'll
enter.
C
This
delay
is
an
awful
hindrance
really,
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
ask
tom.
C
Is
there
any
reason
why
they
want
to
change?
I
mean
this
is
part
of
that
lane.
There's
no
map
to
show
anything
but
from
what
the
report
says.
It's
the
bottom
part
of
the
lane
or
bottom
part
of
the
road.
So
is
there
any
reason
why
part
of
the
road
would
want
to
change
its
name?
That
way,
wouldn't
even
consider
the
process
of
it.
A
H
Happy
to
address
that.
Yes,
yes,
as
as
your
point
out,
the
the
main
grammar
road
is
quite
this
is
a
tail
end
of
it.
It's
quite
a
long
and
straggling
tail
end
and
actually
splits
up
one
end
of
it
and
strange
enough.
At
the
far
end
of
this
tail,
there
is
a
house
actually
which
is
named
off
the
adjacent
road.
H
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
dolly
mixture
of
addresses
down
that
road
and
the
local
residents
said
it
has
caused
confusion
for
years
for
postal
services,
because
it
is
such
a
meandering
teal
and
there
was
an
old
school
down
there.
So
that's
why
they
want
to
rename
it.
They
feel
it'll
be
much
simpler
if
it's
renamed,
so
levitation
at
this
point
in
time
has
quite
a
a
gathering,
and
so
hopefully
the
survey
will
come
will
reflect
that
as
also.
A
H
Thank
you
chair.
That's
just
to
keep
members
up
to
date
with
some
of
the
workload
undertaken
by
the
department
and,
notably
members
will
say
appendix
2.
Last
month
alone,
we
received
237
new
applications.
These
had
a
notional
construction
investment
value
in
the
area
of
just
over
11.25
million.
H
During
this
the
month
of
april,
we
undertook
177
plan
assessments
and
issued
status
notices
on
all
of
these.
We
also
during
that
month
and
completed
just
over
1148
site
inspections,
and
also
the
department
continues
to
deliver
the
property
certificate
function.
Last
month
alone,
we
received
and
administered
277
new
applications,
and
we
issued
actually
366
certificates
to
solicitors
and
agents
all
related
to
property
sales.
A
Thank
you
tom,
okay,
remember,
there's
any
questions,
see
no
lights
on
hop
in
a
note,
okay,
agree
to
note:
okay,
thank
you,
members
and
thank
you
tom.
I
think
that's
the
end
of
your
report
on
members,
where
item
number
agenda
number
five
and
we're
going
into
confidential,
so
a
secret
proposal
on
a
seconder
proposed
by
allen,
anderson
seconded
by
councillor
and
savage
okay
members.
I'm
not
to
read
this
following
statement
right
as
we
is
the
live
feed
stopped.
A
No.
I
read
this
before,
though.
Okay,
no
problem,
okay
members
and
online
viewers,
in
accordance
with
schedule,
six
of
the
local
government
act
and
bragg's
exempt
information,
we
will
now
be
moving
into
a
confidential
session
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we
will
be
turning
off
the
public
feed
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
A
Okay,
members,
we're
we're
we're
back,
live
so
in
continuing
the
agenda
for
the
meeting,
we're
on
agenda
item
number
seven
and
it's
correspondence,
and
we
have
got
two
letters,
obviously
one
from
argent
north
down
and
then
obviously
the
reply
from
the
department
of
infrastructure,
which
I
know
damian's
going
to
give
us
a
bit
of
an
update
on.
Thank
you
amen
thanks.
B
Chart
yeah
the
first
letter
members,
it's
from,
as
the
church
said,
from
oregon
north
down
to
dfi,
and
basically
it's
asking
the
unifi
to
implement
legislation
that
would
enable
old
minerals
planning
permissions
to
be
renewed,
and
the
whole
purpose
of
that
is
because
a
lot
of
these
minerals
permissions
go
back
to
as
far
as
the
1960s.
B
The
purpose
of
renewing
them
is
so
that
they
can
be
assessed
against
current
environmental
standards,
and
so
ours
north
down,
have
asked
the
minister
to
bring
forward
the
legislation
to
make
this
happen
and
as
well
as
that,
they've
asked
the
minister
to
commit
to
dfi
handling
such
applications.
B
Dfi's
response
is
attached
and
you'll
see
from
it
that
the
minister
has
said
that,
in
her
opinion,
the
new
legislation
should
be
brought
forward
in
the
new
mandate.
So
it'll
be
some
time
later
this
year
it
doesn't
say
it
will
but
should
be,
and
then
also
goes
on
to
say
that
it
won't
be
dfi
handling
it.
It
will
be
for
councils
to
handle.
B
So
it's
not
the
answer
that
odds
north
down,
but
liked
it's
not
the
answer
any
of
us
would
have
liked,
but
and
if
that
remains
the
case,
members
will
be
aware
of
the
reports
that
have
come
out
over
the
last
few
months
from
the
northern
ireland
audit
office,
the
plan,
the
public
accounts
committee,
all
of
which
acknowledge
that
there
is
a
financial
sustainability
issue
around
planning
and
there
is
a
funding
issue
around
planning,
so
how
councils
are
going
to
take
on
this
additional
responsibility,
and
in
that
context
you
know
there
is.
B
There
is
an
issue
there
and
there
will
be
cross-government
working
groups
and
ongoing
discussions
and
the
context
of
those
reports
about
how
the
all
the
recommendations
made
by
those
bodies
are
to
be
taken,
account
of,
and
perhaps
that's
the
vehicle
for,
raising
this
issue
with
dfi
and
to
see
how
it
could
be
resolved
in
council's
favors.
So
that
would
be
you
know
my
thoughts
on
the
minor
members,
but
welcome
any
thoughts
of
your
own
or
comments
at
all
thanks.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
Like
yourself,
the
last
thing
we
needs
are
a
lot
of
new
applications
coming
in
that
should
have
been
dealt
with
by
by
someone
else,
and
I
suppose
would
these
applications
potentially
be
seen
as
regionally
significant
and
therefore
they
would
have
been
dealt
with
by
the
department.
That
would
be
my
question
first,
but
then
for
yourself,
damian
and
they'll
open
to
the
floor.
B
B
The
site
has
been
two
hackers
in
size
now
what
whether
it
constitutes,
I
don't
think
minerals
permissions
can
be
deemed
to
be
reasonably
significant,
but
that
that
is
something
that
one
of
the
issues
that
come
out
of
the
whole
audit
review
and
the
review
by
the
public
accounts
committee
is
that
what
the
department
for
infrastructure
have
to
do
is
review,
how
applications
are
categorized,
so
that
would
include
what
classifies
a
reasonably
significant
application
so
day.
B
Five
will
have
to
review
that,
and
that
may
result
in
some
of
these
becoming
reasonably
significant
applications
where
dfi
could
take
them
on,
but-
and
I
think
what
they
fire
trying
to
do
is
basically
pass
them
across
the
councils
and
avoid
having
to
process
these
themselves.
But
there's
a
discussion
to
be
had
around
this
in
the
whole
context
of
the
reports
that
I
mentioned,
and
maybe
that
is
the
the
the
appropriate
forum
in
which
to
have
this
conversation
and
I'm
happy
to
to
take
it
forward
along
those
lines.
A
Thank
you
damian,
and
I
do
think
that
discussion
needs
to
happen.
Obviously
other
members
are
are
open
to
speak
on
it,
but
from
personally
I
I
think
this
is
again
another
way.
The
department,
my
stealth,
is
basically
putting
more
work
on
the
our
planning
department
and
which,
obviously,
as
we
know,
is,
is
still
recovering
from
covert
still
trying
to
get
our
numbers
down
to.
You
know
deal
with
those
applications
that
are,
you
know,
economically
and
and
significant
for
the
real
job
creation
and
things.
A
So
these
types
of
things,
I
think
it
just
needs
to
be
a
discussion,
and
I
I
will
leave
that
with
you,
damn
and
obviously
in
your
capable
hands
across
departmental
that
you
know
you
will
obviously
put
across
the
feelings.
I
know
how
other
members
feel
about
it,
but
I'll
open
it
to
the
floor.
Anybody
any
comments.
B
Sure,
maybe
if
I
could
commit
sorry
chart
you
could,
if
members
would
prefer,
I
mean
we
could
write
to
deify
ourselves
to
you
know,
concur
with
the
the
thoughts
of
ours
in
north
down
and
say
that
you
know
we
would
agree
with
the
approach
that
they
have
suggested.
I
would
ask
therefore,
to
take
that
in
consideration.
B
If
members
would
like,
you
know
like
that,
to
be
done,
I'm
happy
to
to
draft
a
letter
and
and
send
to
them
and
probably
be
signed
by
yourself
character,
I'll,
be
to
do
that.
Just
a
suggestion.
A
A
You
know
mineral
type
up
applications
yeah,
which
you
know
which,
which
again
you
know
should
have
been,
should
be
dealt
with.
You
know
centrally,
rather
than
a
local
level.
Okay,
how?
E
The
orton
northbound
council
and
on
that
letter,
just
handing
along
just
copy
them
and
do
it
okay,
thank
you.
F
A
Yeah
wouldn't
be
a
bad
idea,
actually
copying
all
kinds
of
you
know,
and
so
maybe
people
haven't
really
realized
what
is
potentially
in
in
front
of
them.
I'm
sure
you
have
a
forum,
and
you
speak
to
other
heads
of
planning
as
well
yeah.
You
can
bring
it
up
on
it
and
have
that
discussion.
Yeah
can't
do.
A
Okay,
damian,
thank
you
and
thank
you.
Members.
That's
the
end
of
correspondence,
and
obviously
the
next
item
in
the
agenda
is
a
agenda
which
is
any
other
relevant
business
that
we're
not
aware
of
any
and
ruth
is
saying.
No,
so
there
is
none.
So,
okay,
remember,
that's
that's
the
end
of
the
first
part
of
the
meeting,
we're
going
to
be
a
short
recess
and
then
we'll
consider
the
the
planning
applications
and
we'll
commence
it
four
o'clock,
members
that
gives
you
18
minutes,
yeah
four
o'clock:
okay,
members.
A
Okay
got
the
thumbs
up.
Remember:
okay.
Members.
First
start:
I'm
gonna
leave
out
this
read
this
statement.
Members
of
the
public
you're
advised
that
the
planning
and
regulatory
service
committee
is
being
held
in
the
council
chamber
in
craig
and
civic
centre.
However,
due
to
covert
restrictions,
the
number
of
persons
who
can
physically
be
facilitated
in
the
chamber
is
severely
limited.
A
As
a
result,
members
of
public
are
only
able
to
view
the
meeting
on
youtube
and
anyone
wishing
to
address
the
committee
has
been
invited
and,
in
the
first
instance,
as
an
intended
by
a
zoom
audio
recording,
is
being
used
to
assist
in
the
preparing
the
formal
minutes.
Therefore,
anybody
participating
in
the
meeting
consents
to
you
being
recorded
and
being
live
streamed
to
youtube.
A
Okay
members
first
item
on
agenda
number:
six
I'll.
Of
course,
savage
here
was
later
on
pleasure,
savage.
J
A
Okay,
thank
you
country,
savage,
so,
we'll
make
a
start.
When
you
leave
the
chamber.
A
K
Thank
you,
sir.
This
application
is
a
application
for
outline
planning
permission
for
an
infill
dwelling
on
lands
adjacent
to
14
upper
town,
road,
kids
bridge
the
application
is
before
members.
As
it's
been
called
in
by
an
elected
member.
This
application
site
lies
in
the
open
countryside
is
defined
in
the
area
plan.
There
are
no
specific
policies
in
the
area
plan
for
this
form
of
development.
K
This
application
falls
to
be
considered
under
the
spps
and
pbs-21,
specifically,
policy
cty1
and
cty
yit
one
of
these
policies
cty.
It
requires
four
specific
elements
to
be
met.
The
first
is
that
the
gap
site
must
be
within
another
ways,
substantial
and
continuously
built
up
front.
The
second
is
that
the
gap
must
be
small,
sufficient
only
to
accommodate
a
maximum
of
two
houses.
K
In
this
instance,
officers
are
satisfied
that
the
state
is
located
within
a
substantial
and
continuously
built
up
frontage
and
therefore
criterion.
One
of
cty
is
met.
Officers
are
also
satisfied
that
the
state
represents
a
small
gap
sufficient
only
to
accommodate
a
maximum
of
two
dwellings,
therefore
criterion
two
of
cty
it
has
met.
K
Furthermore,
officers
are
content
that
the
proposed
dwelling
could
be
cited
within
the
application
site,
respecting
the
existing
pattern
of
development
along
the
frontage.
Therefore,
the
third
element
of
cty
is
satisfied
in
regards
to
the
fourth
criteria.
The
site
lies
in
close
proximity
to
existing
poultry
farm,
which
is
located
to
the
rear
of
number
14
over
town
road
officers,
in
consultation
with
officers
from
the
council.
K
Environmental
health
department
of
concern
regarding
this
relationship
in
terms
of
immunity
afford
to
pose
dwell
in
the
environmental
health
department
of
the
council
had
raised
concerns
with
the
potential
impact
of
the
existing
poultry
farm
on
the
immunity
of
future
occupants
of
the
proposed
dwelling,
the
proposed
development
is
located.
Approximately
a
hundred
meters
from
the
existing
poverty
sheds,
the
environmental
health
had
advised.
The
activities
from
these
shades
are
likely
to
give
rise
to
offensive
conditions
and
resulting
impact
upon
immunity
enjoyed
by
occupiers
of
the
proposed
development
due
to
noise,
odour
and
flies.
K
Officers
are
of
the
opinion
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
demonstrate
that
the
proposed
development
would
provide
an
acceptable
living
environment
for
the
prospective
residents
in
terms
of
noise
and
order.
The
proposed
development
therefore
fails
the
fourth
element
of
ct
way.
Yet
policy
consideration
I
set
out
in
detail
in
the
body
of
the
officer's
report.
Officers
are
content
that
the
proposed
development
would
comply
with
the
spps
and
policy
cty,
13
and
14
in
terms
of
design,
integration
and
impact
and
real
character
in
consultation
with
dfi
roads.
K
K
K
K
A
Okay,
thank
you
liam
for
your
your
presentation
on
on
the
powerpoint
okay
members
in
the
chamber
today,
we're
joined
by
the
mr
ocean
conlan
who's,
going
to
make
a
representation
in
support
of
the
application.
A
Mr
khan
you're
very,
very
welcome
and
you've
got
three
minutes.
You'll
see
them
on
the
screen
in
front
of
you
and,
and
that
will
start
when
you
begin
to
speak.
But
before
you
start,
I
just
want
to
tell
the
members.
We've
also
got
seamus
curran
here,
who's,
the
applicant
and
herbie
mcallier
who's.
The
agent
who
are
basically
I've,
got
speaking
right.
So
I'm
assuming
that's
to
address
any
queries
and
that
can't
be
addressed.
Okay,
mr
collin,
your
time
will
start
when
you
begin
to
speak.
Thank
you.
I
And
order
weren't
adequately
addressed
and
during
the
the
original
planning
process,
the
applicant
subsequently
engaged
with
environmental
health
and
undertook
a
detailed
review
of
all
of
the
documents
as
part
of
that
application
on
the
poetry
form
that
you've
you've
heard
about
so
key
findings
and
key
points
raised
with
environmental
health.
At
that
time
were
that
the
application
of
the
poultry
farm
itself,
the
source
of
the
potential
noise
and
odour
was
supported
by
a
detailed
farm
management
plan
detailing
how
noise
and
odor
would
be
managed
to
prevent
impact.
I
The
farm
operations
itself
are
also
including
a
odor
and
noise
are
regulated
by
the
northern
ireland
environment
agency
via
a
specific
pollution
prevention
control
permit
and
with
regards
potential
impact
on
residential
immunity.
The
planning
officer
report
for
the
for
the
poultry
house
stated
the
nia,
the
body
responsible
for
the
investigation
of
any
noise
or
order
complaint
offered
no
objection
to
the
proposal.
I
It
was
considered
that
this
proposal
would
not
have
a
detrimental
impact
on
the
immunity
of
nearby
residential
dwellings
and
further
stated
that
environmental
health
had
been
consulted
in
relation
to
the
proposal
onto
the
order
assessment
in
particular
and
raised
no
concerns.
There
were
no
odor
or
noise-related
conditions
included
in
the
planning
permission
for
the
poultry
houses.
The
proposed
development
that
we
are
talking
about
is
no
closer
to
the
farm
than
the
existing
residential
properties
and
nien.
Both
environmental
nia
environmental
health
concluded
the
farm
would
not
have
a
detrimental
impact
on
residential
dwellings.
I
We'd
also
pointed
out
that
the
bravilian
wind
is
from
the
south
and
west,
so
the
potential
for
noise
in
order
to
extend
from
the
poultry
houses
towards
the
proposed
development
is
considered
much
less
than
to
the
existing
residential
properties.
That
was
acknowledged
by
environmental
health
in
the
6th
of
march
2020.
I
Taking
into
account
that
information
they
advised,
they
would
not
intend
if
there
was
a
subsequent
application
asking
for
an
order.
Impact
assessment
be
to
be
submitted,
so
subsequent
application
was
made
which
we're
talking
about
today.
I
Environmental
health
responded
on
the
first
to
the
second
21
and
they
advise
that
the
the
bravillian
win
provides
natural
mitigation
for
the
proposal
with
dispersion
of
noise
and
order.
Therefore,
the
department
does
not
require
a
noise
or
order
impact
assessment
that
further
marked
in
the
planning
response
checklist
attached
to
that
response
as
a
and
had
marked
a
general
immunity
and
air
quality
is
not
applicable
to
this
development.
I
There
was
a
follow-up
response,
then,
on
the
21st
of
the
12th
21,
in
which
the
environmental
health
stated,
it
is
assumed
that
the
applicant
is
aware
of
the
close
proximity
to
the
agricultural
sheds
and
goes
on
to
say
that
should
planning
permission
be
granted.
Environmental
health
would
request
that
informatives
or
informatives
are
included
to
remain
the
applicant
of
the
potential
for
noise
and
order.
But
importantly,
environmental
health
did
not
recommend
refusal
on
the
grounds
of
odor
or
noise
and
didn't
even
recommend
any
related
conditions.
A
Let's
call
it
your
time's
up,
but
look
I'm
sure,
we'll
tease
this
you
the
rest
of
it
as
the
the
meeting
progresses,
because
obviously
this
is
very
sort
of
technical
one
again,
I
can
tell
by
your
statement
in
relation
to
that.
So
look.
Thank
you
for
your
your
presentation,
committee,
okay,
members,
you've
heard
a
liam's
presentation
and
you've
obviously
heard
the
presentation
from
mr
coleman
on
online
members.
We
also
do
have
paul
mccullough
from
environmental
health,
and
so,
if
there's
anybody
has
any
questions
for
for
paul
he's
there.
A
Okay,
mr
conlan,
hey,
if
you
just
want
to
finish
up
country
duff,
is
asked
to
hear
the
the
full
presentation
so
I'll.
Let
you
back
in
and
you
can
you
can
finish
off
your
the
rest
of
your
presentation.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you.
Well,
it
was
just
to
summarize
the
key
points,
so
those
being
odor
and
noise
were
not
considered
problematic
when
the
poultry
farm
was
initially
approved,
no
related
conditions
were
included.
I
A
detailed
management
plan
is
in
place
and
was
submitted
in
support
of
the
planning
for
that
form,
specifically
for
preventing
adverse
noise
and
odor
farm
operations
from
the
poultry
farm,
not
including
noise,
and
order,
or
are
already
strictly
regulated
by
the
environment
agency
by
a
specific
ppc
permit.
So
failure
to
regulate
those
form
operations
should
not
be
to
the
detriment
of
the
applicant
and
the
statutory
experts
in
nia
and
environmental
health
have
not
recommended
refusal
or
even
conditions
related
to
noise
order
or
pests.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
coleman,
okay
country,
duffy,
you've
heard
the
serious.
I
don't
let
you
back
in.
G
A
Okay
and
thank
you,
councilor
duffy,.
A
We
we
can
indeed
loud
and
clear
paul,
so
if
you
want
to
address,
obviously
you've
heard
what
mr
collins
has
said
and
if
you
want
to
address
those
those
issues
that
have
been
raised
by
country
duffy,
that
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
L
Chair
and
counselor,
obviously,
the
environmental
health
rule
is
to
advise
the
planning
department
to
aid
them
towards
making
a
decision,
and
we
have
identified
that
there
is
a
potential
impact
with
any
residential
property
going
in
beside
and
agricultural
uses
of
this
type.
It's
it's
for
the
planning
department,
obviously
to
take
that
information
and
to
make
a
balanced
decision
on
the
basis
of
that.
So
there
has
been
a
chain
of
consultations,
as
has
been
identified
by
mr
conlan.
L
As
I
say,
environmental
health
health
have
raised
the
the
locality
issues
within
that
in
terms
of
the
stepping
back
towards
the
poultry
house
application
itself.
It
is
true
that
there
are
controls
in
place
and
a
regime
in
place
for
that.
However,
a
lot
of
those
controls
would
only
have
taken
into
account
the
receptors
that
were
present
at
the
time
and
wouldn't
obviously
have
had
regard
to
to
the
future
potential
of
this
particular
application.
A
Okay,
thank
you
paul
for
your
you,
your
reply
country.
G
Yes,
thank
you
cherry
again.
Thank
you.
Paul
was
not
mitigation
in
that
part
of
annex
a
towards
the
end
of
that
report.
That
comes
out
about
mitigation
within
plan
that
these
could
these
sort
of
things
could
be
mitigated
through
what
has
been
said
by
mr
conlon,
through
wind
and
through
the
environmental
agencies,
reports
on
pests
and
other
types
of
flies
and
all
within
the
area
is
just
for
liam.
Is
it
not
part
of
the?
I
think
that
mitigation
should
have
been
attended.
Was
it.
A
F
K
The
polti
houses
are
located
immediately
jason
behind
the
owner
of
the
public
houses,
that
was
the
closest
residential
property
at
number
14.,
this
property.
Wasn't
this
site
wasn't
investigated
as
part
of
the
application
into
the
poultry
houses?
The
other
properties
are
are
further
away
in
that
respect.
K
I
think
what
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
immunity
here
is
is
something
slightly
different
and
that
it's
a
proximity
of
that
and
how
that
relates
to
it,
how
they
manage
them
in
t
and
the
facility
is
certainly
one
aspect
of
it,
but
I
don't
think
it
goes
to
the
level
and
extent
that
we
need
to
be
considered
in
terms
of
residential
immunity
and
that's
what
this
application
is
slowly
falling
down
on
so
yeah
the
application
side
wasn't
investigated
for
a
residential
property
back
when
the
poverty
houses
were
approved.
K
A
G
K
K
Yeah,
basically,
there
was
a
back
in
the
day
when
we
had
the
the
advice
note
come
out.
The
name
of
it
has
just
left
me
for
in
relation
to
infill
policy
tests
and
they,
basically,
we
didn't
count
garages
as
part
of
the.
So
basically,
this
application
was
held
up
in
line
with
that
advice
that
came
out
of
planning
headquarters
and
at
one
point
in
time,
what's
it
called
yeah
the
pan?
K
Sorry
that's
just
gone
blank
on
yeah,
so
the
panel
advice
come
out
and
basically
we
were
basically
sitting
on
applications
of
this
nature
because
we
weren't
sure
what
was
happening
with
it
and
whether
or
not
this
actually
ticked
the
box
from
the
infield
and
fill
point
of
view.
So
when
that
was
withdrawn,
then
it
did
check
the
box
in
terms
of
the
info
point
of
view.
But
when
we
looked
at
the
environmental
health
consultation
response
we
had
when
it
was
added
to
the
delegated
list,
we
didn't
feel
we
could
stand
over
it.
K
So,
yes,
it
was
added
to
a
list,
but
a
decision
was
never
taken
on
it,
because
when
we
fully
investigated
the
environmental
health
response
we
had
we
couldn't.
We
couldn't
issue
an
approval
on
that
basis
and
that's
why
there
has
been
a
number
of
two
and
four
one
in
terms
of
environmental
consultation
responses
coming
back.
A
A
Thanks
liam
coach
w
happy
enough,
yeah,
okay,
I've
got
council
wilson
country
wilson.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Just
a
couple
of
questions.
150
meters
is
that
policy
or
is
that
a
guide
and
the
other
question
would
be
reference
to
environmental
health
just
what's
in
within
my
so
sort
of
the
day-to-day
job.
I
visit
two,
probably
large
poultry
forms,
probably
daily,
and
I
know
that
bio
security
measures
on
poultry
forms,
probably
out
greatly
outweighs
other
livestock.
It's
just
being
captured
of
a
sheep
cattle
or
whatever
odor
is
minimal
a
family
noise.
M
I
can.
I
personally
could
not
hear
the
sound
of
chickens
at
any
poetry
farm
that
I
visit,
and
I
think
maybe
sometimes
this
is
maybe
a
broad
brush
approach.
How's
the
farm
being
visited
has
any
sort
of
readings
being
taken
or
any
sort
of
monitoring
of
the
situation.
I
just
I
think
maybe
this
is
something
we
really
have
to
look
at
as
regards
the
noise
and
odor
situation.
As
we
know,
I
I
hide
the
contrary.
You
have
orders
from
slurry
spread
and
you
have
various
odors
out
there.
M
K
Yeah,
thank
you,
council
wilson.
My
understanding
is
this
is
this
is
guidance
that
is
that
has
worked
off
from
the
the
environmental
health
department
and
has
been
accepted
by
the
plan
and
appeals
commission,
I
suppose
the
other
point
in
regard
to
this
application.
There
were
no
other
assessments,
noise
assessments
or
any
other
assessments
submitted
in
support
of
the
application
which
may
have
you
know,
shared
a
bit
more
light
on
the
specific
conditions
of
of
the
application
side.
L
Chair
country,
wilson,
is
awesome,
just
to
reiterate,
liam's,
exactly
correct.
It
is
gains.
There
is
no
specific
policy
on
this
matter.
L
The
environment
agency
in
england
and
the
former
department
for
agriculture,
as
it
was,
would
have
worked
off
a
guidance
figure
of
400
metres
and
we
have
reduced
that
down
based
upon
many
years
accumulated
knowledge
and
experience
down
to
150
meters.
Just
given
the
local
circumstances
that
we
we
find
in
in
northern
ireland
in
relation
to
the
specific
site
itself.
Look
at
you
know.
L
Whilst
there
are
general
trends
within
within
poultry
developments,
there
are
individual
specifics
on
each
site
and
there
is
ventilation
noise
associated
with
with
developments
of
that
type,
also
noise,
and
due
to
sort
of
deliveries
and
the
processing
and
removal
of
birds
and
so
on.
So
there
there
can
be
impacts
associated
with
them.
We
do
have
a
very
high
standard
in
this
part
of
the
world
in
terms
of
of
poultry
industry.
L
So,
as
I
say,
that's
why
we,
in
our
guidance,
have
reduced
the
400
meter
separation
distance
down
to
150,
which
we
think
is,
is
applicable.
A
G
A
I
The
original
application
was
a
request
for
an
order
assessment
that
hadn't
been
adequately
responded
to
that's
acknowledged
by
the
applicants.
That
said,
in
the
start
of
the
presentation,
we
subsequently
engaged
with
environmental
health
and
pointed
out
all
of
those
points
that
I
I
presented
earlier
and
environmental
health
agreed
that
if
there
was
a
subsequent
application
that
we
are
now
talking
about,
that,
neither
a
noise
or
odor
assessment
would
be
required.
A
Okay,
mr
khan,
thank
you
that
kind
of
stuff.
Okay,
I've
got
council
mega
linden
on
zoom
here.
Here's
that
one.
N
Thank
you,
samia
stegatr,
on
the
thanks
and
apologies
I'm
working
on
here,
but.
N
This
application
seems
to
hinge
on
the
noise
and
odor
assessment
liam
mentioned
liam.
You
mentioned
the
previous
application
back
in
2018.
Could
you
give
us
more
detail
on
that
there?
I
am
thanks
liam.
K
Yeah
councilman,
the
the
previous
application,
was
essentially
the
same
as
what
we
have
before
us
this
evening.
The
reasons
for
refusal
again
were
based
on
amenity
grounds
and
lack
of
information.
K
So
basically
the
position
was
that
they
did
have
some
conversations
with
environmental
health
before
the
submission
of
the
application
we're
currently
here
to
adjudicate
on
this
evening,
but
in
the
context
of
this
application
on
an
officer's.
Looking
at
the
various
consultation
responses
we
have
received
to
date
on
the
application,
some
of
which
we
didn't
really
allow
us
to
proceed.
We
felt
so
we
felt
that
they
needed
interrogated
a
bit
more
so
in
in
light
of
some
of
the
three
different
consultation
responses
we
received
from
environmental
health,
we
finally
got
one.
K
We
felt
it
was
robust
enough
for
us
to
take
the
application
forward,
the
planning
committee
and
realistically,
that's
that's-
why
we're
here
this
evening.
So
essentially,
the
applications
are
more
or
less
similar,
except
that
there
was
ongoing
negotiations
out
with
the
submission
of
the
current
application
with
environmental
health,
and
that
was
forwarded
to
us
in
the
context
of
this
application.
A
E
E
Basically,
we
in
the
past,
as
a
committee,
have
have
probably
a
medallion,
could
clarify
this
worked
within
these
limits
that
we're
talking
about
within
this
report
today
on
the
agriculture
building
some
such
like.
So
we
have
to
see
it
not
right,
although
there's
nothing
definite
from
paul.
E
He
says
that's
a
figure
to
go
on
150
meters
on
unless,
but
coming
back,
am
I
picking
this
up
right
from
ocean
that
you
weren't
asked
on
this
occasion
I
environmental
health
for
another
or
nice
assessment,
and
if
that
is
the
case,
we're
actually
having
this
before
today.
E
Basically,
it's
because
of
those
situations
that
we
are,
we
have
this
decision
before
us
to
refuse
this
site,
so
maybe
paul
on
the
ocean
could
come
forward
and
tell
us
do
we
still
need
an
order
or
noise
assessment,
and
if
not,
why
not?
When
we're
really
trying
to
determine
what
the
issues
are
here.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
L
Yes,
sir
I'll
try
and
clarify,
as
as
best
as
possible,
this
site,
given
its
proximity
to
the
poultry
and
other
agricultural
activities,
will
be
impacted.
We
know
that,
based
upon
our
knowledge
and
experience
of
such
states
and
the
fact
that
it
lays
well
within
what
we
would
deem
to
be
the
appropriate
gains
limits.
L
A
noise
on
the
needle
over
impact
assessment
will
undoubtedly
reveal
that
to
some
extent
and
you'll
still
be
in
the
same
situation
of
asking
yourself
whether
it's
an
acceptable
impact
or
not,
and
with
regards
the
the
residential
development,
then
clearly
it
doesn't
have
the
operational
control
of
the
sources
here.
Whereas
if
you
are
looking
obviously
at
the
development
of
the
new
agriculture
facility,
then
there
are
various
medication
measures
that
can
be
put
in
place.
It
is
much
more
difficult
for
a
residential
property
to
try
and
seek
to
control
any
impacts
like
that.
L
So
that
is
where
we
find
ourselves.
As
I
say,
environmental
health
have
put
forward
the
recommendation
that
our
australia
basis,
but
it
is
our
view
that
it
will
be
a
site
impacted
by
by
noise
and
older
from
the
adjacent
activities.
And,
as
I
said,
you
you've
got
a
plan
recommendation
from
as
a
result
of
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you
paul
for
your
and
feedback
there
and
I'm
going
to
invite
mr
coleman
you've
heard.
Obviously
what
the
environmental
health
officer
said
there
do
you
want
to
sort
of
give
some
sort
of
give
or
give
her
a
play.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
mr
collin
and
I
see
all
the
announcements
later
on
so
you've
heard.
Obviously
what
mr
mccullough,
ms
collins
said.
So
all
right.
E
Thank
you
again.
Sharon
thanks
to
both
gentlemen.
For
for
those
responses,
and
mr
conlon
mentioned
something
asked
about
informatives,
but
they're
not
informs
are
not
really
conditions,
they're,
not
something
that
could
be.
Maybe
you
could
correct
me
liam,
but
there
you
can
put
something
on
a
on
an
approval
with
an
informed,
but
it
doesn't
have
much
standing.
Just
could
clarify
that
first
place.
A
Thank
you,
oliver
anderson
liam.
Do
you
want
us
to
outline
the
diversity
in
condition
and
informative?
Please.
K
Yeah,
thank
you
chair,
essentially,
the
the
the
what
the
the
consultation
response
from
environmental
health
is
flagging
up
is
that
there
will
be
an
impact
here.
An
informant
formative
will
not
mitigate
that
and,
as
the
applicant
has
no
control
over
the
source
in
this
instance,
which
is
the
popey
sheds
and
the
adjacent
agricultural
buildings,
they
have
no
means
of
mitigating
to
an
acceptable
level
that
would
not
have
implications
for
residential
immunity
of
these
prospective
residents.
K
A
G
K
Yep,
thank
you,
chair
yeah.
Essentially,
there
was
a
bit
of
variance
in
the
the
responses
that
we
had
received
from
environmental
health.
The
first
one,
as
I
say,
as
the
agent
has
alluded
to
there
did
say
no
objections
when
we
looked
at
it
as
officers
as
the
sort
of
those
making
the
decision
on
the
basis
of
the
information
we
given
weren't,
really
content
with
that
response,
because
we
felt
that
the
proximity
of
this
poultry
houses
and
other
agricultural
buildings
needed
further
investigations.
K
That's
why
we
went
back,
and
similarly
that's
why
we
have
arrived
at
the
consultation
response
we
do
have,
because,
ultimately,
our
job
is
to
suppose
safeguard
the
council
in
terms
of
not
approving
dwellings
here
that
are
going
to
suffer
residential
immunity
and
lead
to
subsequent
complaints
in
relation
to
an
existing
established.
Business
has
been
there
for
a
number
of
years.
So,
yes,
there
were
a
number
of
consultation
responses
and
the
variety
of
those
dead
chains
over
time,
but
that
was
in
relation
to
further
site
inspections
on
internal
sort
of
discussions
between
ourselves
and
environmental
health.
A
Okay,
liam,
thank
you
question.
Is
that
clear?
Okay,
look
members
with
we've
we've,
given
this
a
good
round
of
questioning?
Oh,
that
was
sorry.
I
didn't
see
you
there
here.
N
Thanks
sure
sure,
in
relation
to
the
agricultural
buildings,
could
you
give
us
details
on
the
size
of
these
buildings
thanks.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
michael
london.
Lastly,
I'm
sort
of
explaining
roughly
the
the
the
scale
of
the
agricultural
buildings,
the
the
size
of
poultry
house.
You
know,
obviously
the
scale
it
is
many
chickens
is
held
in
us,
etc.
If
you
have
that
information,
thank
you.
K
Yeah,
the
the
poultry
houses
are
in
excess
of
2
000
square
meters,
the
agricultural
building
to
the
left
of
the
agricultural
site
or
to
the
proposed
site
that
houses
cattle
is,
is
400
square
meters.
The
other
buildings
across
the
road.
N
Thanks
thanks
cheers
on
thanks
liam
and
you
know,
look
the
size,
the
the
says
you're,
giving
it
they're,
not
overly
large
buildings,
to
say
the
least.
You
know
I
live
in
a
rural
area
here
and
not
too
far
from
me.
There's
large,
maybe
ten
thousand
square
feet,
the
the
poultry
houses
beside
me
and
I'm
just
concerned
that
this
application
for
such
a
small
agriculture
building
that
will
have
such
a
big
issue
over
noise
on
the
and
smail.
A
Thank
you
and
councilman
mclennan,
but
I
suppose
point
of
clarification
think
liam
give
those
areas
in
meters
squared
not
square
feet,
so
that
would
make
the
poultry
houses
about
20
odd
thousand
square
feet
which,
with
a
similar
scale
of
the
ones
you've
been.
You
know,
you're
talking
about
close
to
your
your
70
to
yourself,
so
just
for
clarification,
okay,
thank
you
and
okay
members,
any
other
questions.
A
I
don't
see
any
lights
on
members,
so
if,
if
that's
all
the
questions
addressed
we'll
move
on
to
to
be
at
stage
so
women
a
member's
hands
or
does
anybody
want
to
sort
of
declare
what
their?
What
they're
thinking
is?
At
this
stage,
country
duffy.
G
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
I
believe
what
was
country
wilson
actually
pointed
out
that
there
is
a
lot
of
mitigation
has
gone
on
in
these
policies
because
it
seems
to
be
all
based
around
the
voters
yet
and
not
really
the
other,
the
other
shades.
G
So
there
is
mitigation.
First,
sound
noise,
smell
pollution.
That
really
comes
out
of
this
another
quick
checker.
And
that's
what
says:
it's
only
gains.
You
know
it
actually
goes
down
to
100
meters.
You
know
for
a
free
range
and
a
100
up
to
150
meters,
and
that's
it's
only
guidance
a
minute,
so
he
would
be
of
the
main
to
go
against
the
officer's
recommendation.
G
A
K
No,
it
was
just
a
sort
of
it,
never
never
get
tuesday.
There
was
a
point
raised
by
alderman
anderson
there
about
sort
of
council
and
dealing
with
these
applications.
Previously,
obviously,
we've
had
three
or
four
of
these
before
the
committee
on
the
same
grounds
and
have
been
applying
this
standard
and
advice
to
date
on
a
number
of
applications
that
have
already
passed
through
the
committee.
So
it
was
just
to
sort
of
make
members
aware
of
that.
We
have
had
a
number
of
those.
E
All
right,
thank
you,
chair
and
thank
you
liam
for
for
that
information
I
think
most
of
the
members
here
we
we
realize
that
there
have
been
a
number
of
applications
through
here
for
or
noise
and
on
pollution
and
smells
whatever
is
in
place,
and
I
think
quite
honestly,
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
we
have
to
be
consistent
as
a
company
to
see
that
we
are
taken
into
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
from
the
environmental
department.
E
So
that's
just
what
I
want
to
say
at
the
present
time.
We
need
to
be
consistent
as
a
committee.
Thank
you.
A
N
Sneak
dinner
just
a
bit
of
clarification
on
the
previous
applications
that
layman
mentioned,
did
they
all
fall
just
on
the
noise
and
odor
assessment,
or
was
there
other
issues
that
fell
on?
You
know
this
application
meets
all
the
all
the
all
the
the
criteria
pps21,
so
I'm
just
online
did
they'll
just
fall
on
the
odor
and
smell
order.
A
noise
assessment
thanks.
A
Hey
thank
you
councilman,
but
we're
sort
of
in
the
debate
stage,
but
I
can
I
can
understand
why
you've
sort
of
a
question
has
come
out
of
of
of
that
and
obviously
you're
in
zoom,
so
perhaps
that
you're
not
sort
of
had
had
the
full
sort
of
detail.
That's
come
out
in
the
meaning
liam
do
you
want
to
address
that?
You
referred
to
a
number
of
applications
that
this
committee
has
made
decisions
on.
A
Obviously
that
is
great's
presence
in
in
in
the
context
of
and
where
we
are
so
how
similar
are
those
to
what
we're
dealing
with
in
front
of
us
now,
just
to
just
our
clarification
to
the
members.
Thank
you.
K
Well,
I
think,
just
as
a
sort
of
point
of
clarification,
the
previous
application
on
this
application
site
that
was
refused.
The
first
refusal
reason
related
to
having
notified
the
agent
that
certain
pieces
of
information
were
necessary
to
make
a
determination
that
those
pieces
of
information
were
not
submitted,
namely
the
noise
and
other
assessment.
And
then
the
second
refusal
reason
is
the
same
refusal
reason
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
tonight
largely
in
relation
to
non-compliance
with
the
spps.
K
So,
yes,
we
didn't
ask
for
them,
but
I
mean
the
agents
and
applicants
were
fully
aware
of
the
previous
application
on
the
site
and
knew
that
these
issues
were
there
and
did
have
an
opportunity
to
submit
either
a
noise
order
or
any
other
assessment
in
support
of
their
application,
and
choose
not
to
do
so
and
we're
here
to
be
tonight
between
two
different
positions:
one
from
our
environmental
health
department
and
one
from
the
agent
and
in
respect
of
the
other
applications
that
we
have
gone
through
and
obviously
you've.
K
You
can
recall
that
normally
and
you
can
recall
our
application
for
the
dog
candles.
I
think
that
was
here
two
months
ago,
and
then
we
had
one
last
month
adjacent
to
nie,
plant
and
they're
all
similar
in
proximity
to
sources
that
are
resulting
in
residential
sites
that
wouldn't
be
acceptable
on
immunity
grounds.
A
Okay,
liam
sorry,
if
I
haven't
put
you
in
the
spot
there,
but
you
you've
addressed
it
very
well.
Oh
does
that
clarify
that,
for
you
thanks
for
making
linden
thank.
G
A
I
suppose
in
fairness
to
liam
you're,
not
gonna
get
one
identical
to
what
we'll
have
you
know
in
relation
that,
but
I
think
he's
just
gonna
outline
in
the
the
what
members
have
seen
in
front
of
them
and
just
to
give
away
a
bit
of
a
a
recap
just
to
help
them
think.
But
look
appreciate
your
your
your
your
point.
There.
Okay
members,
I'm
I'm
well
close
debate.
I'm
gonna
move
the
decision.
If
there's
no
more
lights
on
okay
members,
I'm
going
to
decision
so
I'm
in
your
hands
members.
A
Okay,
christopher
and
thank
you.
Okay
members.
We've
got
our
proposal
on
the
floor
that
we
overturn
the
recommendation.
That's
in
front
of
us
tonight
and
from
the
the
planning
department
and
and
and
we
grant
the
approval
have
a
I've
got
a
second
or
for
that.
A
Okay
right
so
we've
got
a
proposal
and
and
and
the
seconder
and
for
we
overturned
the
decision.
I've
got
another
light
on
here:
alderman
anderson.
E
I
realize
every
application
comes
before,
so
we
we
should
always
take
all
the
issues
on
board
on
to
facilitate
within
the
great
area
and
everything
we
have
before
us
to
to
allow
developments
to
take
place,
especially
in
rural
areas,
but
quite
honestly,
what
I
have
heard
from
the
environmental
department
and
from
liam-
and
I
do
remember
a
number
of
those
previous
obligations
and
I
would
say,
as
I've
said
before,
we
need
to
be
consistent
here
on.
I
would
be
proposing
that
we
go
with
a
recommendation
on
that.
To
refuse
permission.
A
Oh
okay,
thank
you.
Alderman
anderson,
alvin,
twiebel.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Hey
all
right
are
alvin
anderson
and
alvin
twail.
So,
but
we've
got
two
proposals
on
on
on
the
floor
members.
So
I'm
I'm
I'm
assuming
we
don't
have
agreement.
So
I
think
at
this
stage
we
have
to
go
to
a
vote
bruce.
Do
you
want
it.
A
Okay,
members
and
because
we
have
a
hybrid
meeting
and
the
vote
can't
be
done
electronically.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
call
out
the
names
who's
present
in
this
meeting,
and
you
give
me
your
your
vote
either
for
against
or
abstain,
and
I'm
I'm
assuming
we
take
country
duffy's
proposal
first,
which
is
obviously
to
overturn
the
council
office
decision.
So
I'm
going
to
go
to
each
member
one
of
the
time.
You
see
your
light
on
give
me
your
give
me
your
your
vote.
Please
hey
oliver
anderson.
C
D
M
Mr
chairman,
who
I
have
have
concerns,
but
just
on
the
grounds
of
consistency
and
what
has
happened
previously
against.
A
A
A
A
O
Thank
you,
sir.
It's
reserved
matters,
application
for
the
direction
of
twitter
to
task
dwellings
and
associated
to
task
garages.
The
principle
of
development
has
been
established
on
this
site
through
the
granting
of
outline
planning
permission
lao
we
had
2018
0890,
which
was
for
a
residential
development
to
include
up
to
35
dwellings.
O
The
matters
were
served
for
consideration
under
this
application
is
citing
design
external
appearance
means
of
access
and
landscaping.
These
are
assessed
in
detail
in
the
main
report,
but,
to
summarize
officers
are
content.
The
development
respects
the
surrounding
context
as
appropriate
to
the
character
and
topography
of
the
site
in
terms
of
layout
to
scale
proportions
masking
and
appearance
of
buildings,
structures
and
landscaped
and
hard
surfaced
areas.
O
The
design
and
layout
will
not
create
conflict
with
adjacent
lounges
and
there's
no
unacceptable
adverse
effect
on
existing
or
proposed
properties
in
terms
of
overlooking
loss
of
light
overshadowing
noise
or
other
disturbance.
Existing
planting
is
retained
along
the
boundaries
of
the
sites
where
applicable
and
supplementary
native
species
planning
is
provided.
O
The
sage
access
arrangement
is
in
accordance
with
the
econ
15
design
standards.
A
new
footwear
will
be
introduced
on
corvette
road
following
the
site
connecting
to
the
json
footwear
to
the
east.
Out
of
it,
car
parking
will
be
divided
in
kirklands
and
off
street
that
complies
with
creating
places,
qr
parking
standards
and
the
internal
layout
is
fully
designed
in
accordance
with
the
police
standards.
O
All
other
considerations,
including
impacting
natural
and
built
heritage
and
flooding
and
drainages
drillage,
has
been
fully
considered
in
consultation
with
the
competent
authorities
and
no
objection
has
been
raised.
The
third
party
representations
have
been
fully
considered,
including
including
those
as
per
the
addendum
report.
In
response
to
wonderful
representation,
an
additional
condition
is
proposed
to
ensure
the
upper
floor
window
to
an
ensuite
room
remains
opaque
glass.
O
From
regard
to
the
above
and
after
undertaking
a
policy
assessment,
officers
of
the
penalty
opposed
development
complies
with
kergalvan
area
plan,
the
spps
and
all
other
relevant
planning
policies
and,
on
that
basis
and
subject
to
conditions
attached,
including
the
additional
one
within
your
identity
report,
is
recommended.
The
plan
permission
to
be
granted.
O
O
Next
slide,
please
subscribe
location
plan,
a
show
in
the
red,
a
line
of
the
application
site
and
the
land
blue
is
also
on
the
ownership
of
the
application
directly
to
the
east
is
the
correct
manner
in
which
the
representations
have
been
received,
and
so
that's
the
layout
under
consideration.
Under
this
application,
you
will
note
there
has
been
two
previous
ones
approved
to
the
front
of
the
site
and
that
development
of
waste
is
is
occupied.
O
So
that's
the
layout
class,
basically
a
close-up
just
to
show
you
the
the
garden
provision
provided,
there's
way
in
excess
of
the
70
square
meters
minimum
we
require
for
such
a
sale
of
house
two
or
three
times
the
size
of
that
next
slide.
Please!
So
it's
just
what
the
house
types
are.
Some
are
finished
in
brick
and
then
others
will
be
finished
and
render.
O
So
there
is
the
george
and
tail
hip
brief
style.
One
is
render
and
side
section
so
there
to
your
immediate
east
is
a
corbat
manor
and
you
can
see
the
separation
distance
as
well
in
excess
of
the
20
meters
as
a
guide
in
the
creating
places
and
there's
just
safe
sections.
The
ones
at
least
in
this
regard
are
the
ones
that's
fronting
the
site.
So
you
can
see
the
front
portion
of
the
site
where
the
the
houses
have
been
recently
constructed
as
a
slightly
higher
level.
O
I
think
it's
not
.89
meters
higher
than
the
ones
to
the
rear.
Next
slide.
Please
and
that's
a
concept
master
plan,
a
provided
but
shows
an
integral
open
space
area
will
be
provided
through
the
center
of
the
site,
and
the
concept
shows
that
it
will
be
still
up
to
35
to
attach
to
it
as
per
the
airplane
approval.
O
O
And
that
just
shows
the
houses
along
the
front
facing
onto
it,
and
the
road
has
been
widened
and
the
footpath
they
link
provided,
and
that
just
shows
the
rear.
This
is
where
the
houses
are
going
back
and
on
to
those
houses,
the
ones
that
they
start
the
ones
nearly
constructed.
As
part
of
the
phase
of
the
outline
approval
and
further
north,
you
can
see
the
distance
is
existing
dwellings
occupy
the
combat
manner,
that's
just
a
close-up
of
the
ones
that
kerber
manner
you
can
see.
O
O
O
A
Okay,
thank
you
sinead
and
members.
As
you
know,
and
schneiderlin
mentioned,
there
was
an
addendum
circulated
before
the
meeting,
which
obviously
addressed
the
written
representations
of
objection
to
the
application
from
elizabeth
lowry,
stephen
rebecca
simpson,
jason
and
gemma,
wilson
and
paul
and
jackie
alan
mckeon.
So
members
have
that
and
I'll
have
that
consideration.
A
P
A
Right
then,
okay,
and
also
with
judith,
is
tim
cousins
of
lesbian
consultants.
He's
there
he
has
speaking
rights.
So
there's
any
queries.
He
will
address
those
judicial
about
three
minutes.
You'll
see
the
clock
and
if
you
want
to
address
the
committee,
the
time
will
start
when
you
begin
to
speak.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
P
P
The
application
site
is
subject
to
an
outline
application
for
residential
development
of
up
to
35
detached
dwellings.
The
current
application
addresses
the
reserve
matters
for
phase
2
of
the
residential
developments
comprising
12
detached
dwellings.
It
is
therefore
considered
that
the
principle
of
the
development
of
this
site
is
acceptable.
P
P
The
contact
master
plan
from
december
2018
had
been
revised
to
accommodate
a
reservoir
inundation
zone
within
the
site
and
the
schedule
10
report
for
the
management
of
the
reservoir
was
not
available
at
that
time.
For
gavin
lakes
has
since
been
classified
as
responsibly
managed,
which
has
enabled
the
contact
master
plan
to
be
reconfigured
to
propose
developments
in
this
previously
excluded
zone.
P
In
light
of
this,
our
client
is
reverted
to
the
concept
plan
for
the
site
which
located
the
open
space
centrally
within
the
scheme.
The
open
space
will
be
provided
through
future
phases
of
the
wider
development,
separation,
distance
and
residential
immunity.
The
eastern
boundary
of
the
application
site
adjoins
the
proposed
agriculture
agricultural
access
road.
This
area
is
10
to
15
meters
wide
and
offers
a
buffer
zone
to
the
existing
dwellings
of
corvette
manor
new
native
species
of
planting
will
be
provided
along
this
boundary
in
line
with
the
concept
master
plan
ecological
impact.
P
The
applicant
is
committed
to
retaining
the
existing
trees
on
site,
and
the
council
has
conditioned
that
all
trades
should
be
retained,
impact
on
local
character.
The
proposed
development
is
cited
behind
the
these
one
prizes
which
front
onto
carvet
road
and
subsequently
will
not
represent
visually
dominant
or
incongruous
development.
P
A
Thank
you,
sorry,
your
time's
up,
but
if
anything
else,
I'm
sure
that
will
get
addressed
during
the
meeting.
So
dr
thank
you
and,
as
I
said,
members
tim
cousins
is
here
from
this
main
consultants.
If
there's
any
queries
in
relation
to
that
aspect
of
the
design,
okay,
members,
that's
the
end
of
our
speaker.
So
we're
moving
to
questions.
So
I
open
the
florida
members.
J
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
your
report
on
for
the
speaker
there
for
the
information
they
provided.
Yes,
you
know
just
in
relation
to
separations
distances.
It
stays
in
the
report
that
will
not
cause
unacceptable
adverse
impact
by
way
of
overlook
or
loss
of
visual
immediately.
It
just
gives
every
idea
of
that.
The
separation
distance
is
at
maybe
the
lowest
and
the
the
furthest
point
please.
Thank
you,
sir.
O
O
So
when
you
have
a
rule
of
thumb
of
20
meters
and
that's
back
to
back,
there's
no
guidance
side
to
back.
It
will
be
well
in
excess
of
our
standards.
We
also
have
to
protect
the
existing
our
proposed
properties
as
well,
and
you
will
know
that
from
the
the
slaves
there's
the
front
portion
of
the
site
under
construction.
Why
not
occupied?
However,
these
dwellings
would
sit
35
meters
back
from
those,
so
it's
well
in
access
on
the
of
the
20
meters.
Separation.
Essence:
guidance,
as
per
our
creating
places.
D
Yes,
chair
thanks
for
letting
me
and
thank
you
to
cheney
and
the
other
speaker
in
terms
of
the
water
course.
That's
right,
that's
mentioned
in
the
report,
and
I
certainly
get
it
that
it
lays
outside
of
the
application
section,
but
there
was
mentioned
that
there
is
a
way
leave
and
and
then
brackets
no
build
zone.
Can
you
give
us
an
idea
in
terms
of
the
size
of
that?
Thank
you
thanks,
chair.
O
G
A
O
This
is
tied
for
the
outline
conditions
of
this
plan
approval
there
are
ours,
restricting
a
half
seven
to
half
five
during
the
week
and
to
have
one
salaries
and
not
at
all
suddenly
spent
holidays
or
public
holidays
and,
as
you
rightly
state,
the
representation
made
reference
to
the
ongoing
building.
Work
may
be
exceeding
or
not
so.
Enforcement
would
investigate
that
they
are
legislators
apart
within
our
gift,
to
look
at
those,
for
example,
they
could
serve
a
breach
of
condition
notice.
O
So
if
they
don't
adhere
to
the
case,
we
can
serve
a
breach
of
condition
notice
on
the
obligating
agent.
Previous
experience
was
said
us
that
we
would
write
initially
and
advise
them
and
outline
to
them
what
the
public
holidays
are
for
the
year
ahead,
so
they're
on
the
they
know
what
the
public
holidays
is
and
there's
no
sort
of
misinterpretation
of
the
didn't
realize
it
was
a
public
holiday
and
to
remain
the
developer
that
this
development
is
subject
to
hours
of
control
regulation.
O
In
the
interim
of
this
a
particular
development,
you
would
note
that
we
have
wrote
two
at
the
agent
architect
who's
speaking
to
the
knights,
to
remind
them
to
remain
the
developer
of
what
the
hours
of
operation
are
on
this
particular
site.
Now,
if
that
was
to
continue
to
pursue-
and
they
let
us
know
on
that
there,
we
will
have
to
use
the
enforcement
part
within
our
gift
to
look
at
that
further.
A
A
Just
checking
on
zoom
here
no,
no
questions.
Look,
I
suppose
a
there's,
no
questions,
members
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
debate
stage,
so
I
mean
anything
burning
in
members
mind
in
relation
to
this
application.
J
There's
nothing
better
than
mine
sure,
but
it's
to
say
look
it's
a
as
always
it's
a
very
comprehensive
report
that
details
the
objections
on
encounters
as
well.
So
you
know
I
don't
think,
there's
any
real
issues
with
it.
I
think
the
decision
that
the
officers
arrived
that
sound
and
the
mind
accept
the
recommendations
outlined
in
the
report.
Sir.
A
Thank
you,
coach,
savage,
yeah
and
10
degrees,
very,
very
detailed
report,
and-
and
it's
been
it's
well
well
presented,
so
any
other
members
there's
no
other.
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
decision.
N
A
I'm
seeing
no
lights
members,
so
I'm
assuming
all
agreed
great.
Okay
members.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
judith
and
thank
you
tim
for
appearing
in
front
of
the
committee
this
evening
and
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
afternoon
stroke
evening.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
members.
Appendix
number
three
is
the
next
on
our
agenda,
which
is
application.
Number
la-08,
slash,
2019-0371,
slash
zero.
Before
we
start
members,
I
I
just
want
to
declare
that
I
had
a
meeting
with
the
applicant
along
with
another
elected
rep,
but
our
discussion
was
primarily
about
progressing
the
application.
It
wasn't
discussing
its
outcome,
so
I'm
happy
to
stay
on
with
an
open
mind.
A
K
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair,
we'll
just
take
you
through
a
couple
of
points
of
correction,
just
in
the
report.
First
of
all
and
on
condition
10.
K
It
should
actually
read
the
existing
natural
screenings
of
the
site,
as
indicated
in
brown
on
approved
plano
one,
and
so
that
needs
to
be
added
in
and
will
be
added
in
in
respect
of
condition.
15
it
talks
about
any
approved
package
plan
shall
be
decommissioned
and
development
connected
to
the
public
server
within
six
months
of
the
council
notifying
the
applicant.
K
That
should
be
the
owner
of
the
property,
and
there
are
two
little
anomalies
that
make
reference
to
condition
13
when
it
actually
should
read
condition
14
on
pages
14
and
pages
16
of
the
report
so
burn
all
that
in
mind.
I'll
just
take
you
through
the
presentation.
K
This
application
takes
outline
planning
permission
for
a
site
for
dwelling
guards
and
lands
north
12,
the
lawns.
Within
this
album
of
warrenstein,
the
raising
obligations
before
members
says
attract
attractive,
four,
more
objections.
So,
let's
be
recommended
for
approval
set,
as
stated
is
located
within
the
settlement
limit
of
warrenstein
set
out
in
the
local
area
plan.
The
listed
warrentown
house
is
located
to
the
north
and
warrenstein
cricket
club
to
the
west.
The
site
is
located
within
warrenstein
historic
park,
garden
and
domain
in
terms
of
the
principle
of
development.
K
The
site
is
not
located
on
any
land
zone
for
any
particular
type
of
development.
Within
the
development
limits
of
warning
signs
to
find
the
local
area
plan,
it
can
be
considered
to
be
weightland.
The
area
plan
states
that
wernerstein
in
warrenstein's
single
dwelling
units
of
appropriate
design
will
normally
be
permitted
on
suitable
sites
within
the
salem
provided.
The
proposal
does
not
prejudice
the
comprehensive,
comprehensive
development
of
adjacent
land.
The
spps
encourages
and
promotes
more
sustainable
housing
development
within
urban
areas.
K
However,
the
spps
also
states
island
policy
os
one
that
development
that
would
result
in
the
loss
of
open
space,
irrespective
of
its
physical
condition
or
appearance,
will
not
be
permitted.
In
this
instance,
the
applicant
claims
single
farm
payment
on
the
application
site
and
is
therefore
considered
to
be
agricultural
and
therefore
not
open
space.
So
in
essence,
the
erection
of
the
dwell
in
this
state
is
therefore
considered
to
be
acceptable
in
principle,
subject
to
normal
planning
and
environmental
considerations
being
complied
with.
K
So
in
terms
of
designing
layout
and
immunity,
the
assessment
of
consideration
of
the
plan
merge
proposal
approach.
Development
is
informed
by
the
spps
craig
ordinary
plan.
Pps7,
the
adenine
pps7
pps
pps12,
creating
places
and
decounted
officers
have
set
out
in
detail
on
the
body
of
the
report
how
the
proposed
development
complies
with
each
of
the
relevant
policies
in
the
local
area
plan
in
terms
of
traffic
access
and
parking
considerations,
officers
and
consultations.
K
Dfi
roads
are
satisfied
that
a
satisfactory
means
of
access
and
sufficient
space
within
the
kurdish
can
be
provided
for
partner
attorney
in
terms
of
the
impact
on
the
historical
environment.
Officers
in
consultation
with
vtd
are
satisfied
that
the
proposal
does
not
adversely
impact
on
the
historic
designated
landscape
of
weinstein
house
anderson
compliant
with
the
spps
and
policy
b
hit.
K
Stark
and
historic
environment
division
have
raised
no
concerns
in
regard
to
any
adverse
impact
on
the
list
of
built
in
the
warrenstown
house.
So
in
that
regard,
officers
are
satisfied
to
propose
a
complaint
with
the
spps
policy
b
hits
11.
in
terms
of
other
environmental
considerations.
There
is
no
capacity
within
warrenstein
wastewater
treatment.
Works
pursues
from
its
disposed
dwelling,
meaning
that
the
proposal
will
involve
non-main
sewage
disposal.
K
Officers
are
satisfied
that
the
implication
of
condition
number
14
ensures
that
the
applicant
must
submit
to
the
council
approved
details
of
a
means
of
sewage
treatment
prior
to
any
development
taking
place.
Consideration
of
the
third
party
representations
are
set
out
in
detail
in
the
report,
and
approval
is
recommended
subject
to
conditions.
K
K
This
is
our
suggested
site
and
condition.
That's
alluded
to
within
the
officer's
report,
so
an
aerial
photograph
of
of
the
site
and
it's
surroundings.
You
can
see
the
cricket
pitch
on
the
the
development
limit
of
the
lawns
to
the
front
on
the
the
the
main
road
there
that
runs
through
the
center
of
the
village.
K
K
K
K
K
A
Okay
liam,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
report
and
presentation
and
members.
We
we
we're.
We
do
have
two
speakers.
However.
We've
received
a
message
from
carla
locker
mp
she's
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
it
so
she's
not
going
to
be
attending
the
the
meeting
and
via
zoom,
but
we
do
have
mr
michael
hornet
who's
who's
going
to
make
a
representation
in
support
of
the
application
and
mr
harney,
can
you
hear
me
you're
you're,
on
mute?
A
A
Okay,
look
michael
you're
you're,
very
welcome
to
the
the
committee
and
you've
got
three
minutes.
You
see
a
timer
in
front
of
you,
so
it'll
it'll
commence
when
you
begin
to
get
make
your
presentation
so.
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm
very
little
to
add
at
this
point
I
agree,
obviously
with
the
planners.
I
add,
perhaps
that
this
was
part
of
the
application
site
that
I
originally
made
back
in
1989,
the
majority
of
that
site
was
within
the
four
or
five
acres
that
I
actually
approved.
Sorry,
the
203
acres.
I
got
to
build
the
whole
launch
and
this
was
like
an
unfinished
end.
It
closes
the
lawns
off
completely
and
seals
the
lawns
off
as
an
identity
on
its
own.
Q
Interestingly,
at
those
dates
in
2000,
the
sewage
actually
went
right
up
into
the
site,
and
it
was
done
because
I
put
the
sewers
for
the
whole
site
in
so
I
have
agreed
that
I
am
putting
in
a
separate
septic
tank,
because
I
haven't
got
the
paperwork
to
show
that
it
was
there,
but
it's
already
in
there
and
as
soon
as
the
paperwork
can
be
replaced,
it
could
be
connected
into
the
existing
manhole.
It
was
built
in
2000..
Q
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
hornet,
and
we're
going
to
move
on
to
questions
now.
So
the
members
may
have
questions
for
you,
I'm
going
to
open
it
to
the
floor
here
to
members.
So,
okay,
members,
any
questions.
J
Thank
you
chair,
I'm
saying
one
fire
from
mr
hornet
just
in
relation
to
one
of
the
objectives,
and
then
one
of
the
the
queries
there
is.
Is
that
there's
going
to
be
plans
for
more
sites
on
this,
and
I
know
it's
not
a
material
consideration
in
this
particular
application,
but
you
did
say
that
this
is
to
I
think
it's
beginning
to
say:
don't
finish
it
off.
Well,
let's
be
the
last
the
last
site,
our
last
build
on
the
site.
Would
you
ever
clarify
that.
Q
Chairman,
thank
you.
This
is
the
top
of
the
site
adjacent
to
my
gardens
and,
yes,
it
is
the
end
of
the
the
road
the
end
of
the
development
at
that
end
of
the
site.
Yes,.
D
D
There
seems
to
be
some
confusion
regarding
whether
there
were
whether
there
have
been
trees
removed
from
the
site
or
not
so
could
we
have
a
little
bit
of
clarity
around
that
issue?
Please
and
then
the
other
thing
chairman
in
terms
of
the
biodiversity.
D
A
K
Yeah,
sir,
I
suppose
the
the
the
role
of
the
plan
departments
to
to
assess
the
application
as
we
found
it
in
the
day
of
submission
of
the
application.
So
basically
from
the
our
site,
inspection,
we
didn't
find
any
trees
to
be
removed
in
that
section
of
the
site
that
may
have
carried
out
previously,
mr
harnick
perhaps
elaborating
up,
but
certainly
from
the
data
site
inspection.
K
We
didn't
pick
any
of
that
up
and
in
the
second
aspect
of
the
biodiversity
checklist,
we
were
happy
that
that
was
completed
by
someone
who
was
competent
and
that
was
reviewed
by
niea
and
they
raised
no
objection
in
that
regard.
So
we're
content
with
both.
A
Okay,
thank
you
liam.
It's
hard
to
be
anything
to
add
to
what
liam
just
said
to
conscious
mcleod's
question,
or
are
you
happy
with
what
liam
has
said.
Q
I
suppose
I
can
add
a
little
bit.
There
was
a
hedgerow
at
the
back
of
the
greenhouses.
In
fact,
I
restored
those
greenhouses
about
40
years
ago
and
then
look
at
the
state
of
the
back
into
again
now,
but
that
hedge
had
grown
up
to
being
fairly
tall
and
on
the
basis
of
that
that
was
cut
down
to
the
normal
hedge
height,
as
is
can
be
seen
on
the
site
at
the
moment.
But
no
trees
were
cut
at
that
stage.
Q
As
for
the
original
checklist
that
the
original
checklist
on
the
application
was
done
by
my
daughter,
who
got
her
degree
in
agriculture
and
then
went
on
to
do
her
msc
in
estate
management
and
land
management
on
exactly
this
topic.
But
after
the
concern
of
a
couple
of
residents
I
got
dermot
hughes,
I
think,
was
his
name.
A
Okay,
look
thank
you
and
mr
harland
and
I
think
liam's
clarified
that
the
biodiversity
checklist
is
has
been
accepted
and
unchecked
and
accepted.
So
thank
you
for
for
clarification,
coach,
mccloud,
yep,
happy
enough.
Okay,
members,
any
other
questions.
A
Remembers,
I'm
seeing
no
lights
on
and
there's
no
more
questions.
Members.
I'm
I'm
happy
to
move
to
the
debate.
Yeah.
Okay,
moving
to
the
b
members.
G
Thank
you
chair.
I'm
probably
happy
enough
with
the
proposal
on
the
reports
very
goodly.
Thank
you.
No
just
had
concerns
just
thought.
It
was
very
unusual.
One
house,
on
the
end
of
a
sort
of
pre-planned
estate,
is
going
to
have
a
septic
tank,
while
the
rest
are
all
piped
into
the
main
search.
G
A
Thank
you
country,
dublin.
I
suppose
it
is
a
strange
one
in
in
that
respect,
but
I
suppose
the
way
n
a
water
is
the
minute
you
can't
get
connection
from
one
house
into
the
mains.
There
remain
a
number
of
houses,
and
I
know
warringstown
is
one
of
those
areas
which
is
a
very
difficult
development,
because
there
is
a
restriction
at
the
minute.
So
that's
probably
why
and
I
would
say
they
would
prefer
to
go
into
the
mains
but
probably
not
allowed.
A
A
A
A
Right
but
it
counts
as
very
suddenly
yeah
right,
okay,
members
moving
on
appendix
number
four:
it's
application:
la
oh,
with
2019
070
at
nine,
slash,
f
and
we're
handing
over
to
schneider
mcavoy
senior
planning
officer
to
present
the
report
on
powerpoint
presentation.
O
Thank
you
chair.
The
sites
were
cured
within
the
settlement
limit
and
consists
of
part
of
the
side
garden
to
the
east
of
number.
57
irwin
drive
an
overgrown
scrub
land
situated
between
the
existing
dwelling
and
an
open
water
course.
The
plan
identifies
the
state's
weightland,
so
it's
not
subject
to
any
pacific
land
use.
Zoning
plan
policy
set
one
of
its
ou1
of
cap
2010
operates
a
presumption
in
favor
of
housing
development
in
such
areas,
subject
revealing
regional
planning
policy
and
all
other
material
considerations.
O
The
spps
and
pps7
advocates
an
increased
housing
density
in
urban
areas
within
without
time.
Cramming.
In
light
of
this
proposal,
officers
are
content.
The
post-dentist
density
of
their
additional
dwelling,
together
with
its
form,
skill,
master
and
layout,
will
respect
local
character
and
environmental
quality,
as
well
as
safeguarding
the
immunity
of
existing
residents.
O
Road
is
proposed
to
be
extended
to
allow
the
construction
of
the
new
access
for
this
dwelling
and
to
facilitate
a
level
of
communal
parking.
A
new
two
meter
footpath
will
also
be
extended
around
the
new
road
access
and
three
number
of
in-cardless
parking
spaces
will
be
provided
all
their
post.
Development
is
outside
of
the
flood
plain.
O
The
designated
water
course
which
flows
along
the
eastern
boundary
of
the
site
is
protected
by
a
5
meter
working
strip
to
facilitate
future
access
to
this
watercourse
in
respect
of
policy
fld3
development
of
surface
water,
the
flood
hazard
map
indicates
the
site
is
not
located
within
a
protected
flooded
area.
You'll
note
within
the
report:
that's
the
word
not
as
enough.
So
that's
quite
important.
O
It's
not
located
in
a
particular
thought
area,
as
indicated
in
the
service
water
flood
map
and
for
reason,
adrenaline's
assessment
is
not
required
by
the
policy
following
consultation
with
rivers,
agency
of
officers
are
satisfied.
The
post
development
will
not
release
any
detrimental
or
adverse
impact
upon
drainage
or
flood
risk
matters.
O
All
third
party
representations
have
been
fully
considered
and
the
necessary
amendments
have
been
made
through
the
processing
of
this
planning
application.
How,
in
regard
to
the
above
and
after
undertaking
a
policy
assessment
and
plan
and
balancing
exercise
officer
of
the
pen
in
the
post,
development
complies
with
the
area
plan,
the
spps
and
all
other
relevant
planning
policies.
On
that
basis
and
subject
to
the
conditions
attached,
it
is
recommended
the
plan
permission
be
granted.
O
Search
repose
is
sight
layered
in
relation
to
the
existing
dwellings
to
the
west,
and
that's
the
proposed
house
type
and
the
floor
plans.
You'll
note:
there's
no
upper
side,
elevation
windows
overlooking
a
57.
O
there's
a
post
section
through
the
site,
so
the
the
closest
residential
is
to
the
rear
at
glen
sheehan
and
it's
over
24
meters,
rear
side
elevation,
a
separation
distance,
and
that
shows
the
top
is
the
existing
contextual
elevation
treatment.
And
then
the
bottom
will
show
how
to
look
like
in
that
straight
elevation
and
that's
the
boundary
treatment
to
the
rear.
O
You'll
note
today,
one
of
the
objections
we're
worried
about
how
the
boundary
fence
was
going
to
look
so
there's
going
to
be
double
sided
fence
so
that
the
the
good
side
is
on
both
sides,
so
to
speak,
so
there's
the
the
access
to
the
site,
so
that
is
some
of
the
objections
related
to
their
park,
their
car
there.
So
that's
going
to
be
extended
out
and
the
carp
or
that
footpath
on
the
left-hand
side
will
be
extended
right
around
it.
O
O
That's
it
there.
That's
a
small
substation
to
the
front
of
the
site,
and
then
the
car
parking
is
going
to
be
beyond
that,
and
then
this
area
to
the
south
of
that
substation
is
going
to
be
extended
to
allow
for
a
new
area
of
communal
parking
for
the
existing
residents
in
ireland
drive
and
that's
just
looking
back
up
from
the
site
just
looking
towards
the
other
side
of
the
just.
That
gives
you
what
the
house
types
are
like,
there's
time
to
attach
red
rick
dwellings.
O
Thank
you
sure.
A
A
I'll
ask
you
a
question
because
I
do
remember
an
application
guest
before
and
obviously
the
majority
of
houses
around
it
are
semis
and
this
is
a
detached
you're,
not
concerned.
This
is
a
change
in
character
of
the
locality,
as
this
is
as
a
totally
different.
You
see,
roshen
laugh
on
the
side
because
you
remember
the
one
I'm
talking
about
so
if
you
could
just
address
that
bad
question,
thank
you.
O
So
maybe
fm
ruth
could
bring
up
this
application
plan,
and
this
is
a
good
question
and
believe
you
me
this
was
quite
a
long
to
be
amongst
yourselves
as
regards
to
the
character
and
taking
in
consideration
say,
plan
the
appeals
commission
on
that.
How
do
you
assess
character?
So,
basically,
you
look
at
you
know
the
what
is
in
the
environment
of
around
the
site,
and
so
we
suppose
just
to
take
it
through
this
education
plan
might
be
easier
for
those
that
maybe
not
too
familiar
with
the
site
location
plan.
O
If
you
can
please
with
just
there
and
so
immediately
at
a
derwent
drive
or
a
semi-attached
red
brick
dwellings
exclusively
along
irwin
drive
going
out
there
to
the
standard,
irwin
gardens,
there's
a
mixture
of
semi-detached
and
detached.
O
However,
if
you
look
at,
let's
bring
that
in
even
closer
and
we're
talking
about
as
a
pse,
do
it
to
refer
the
immediate?
You
know,
environments,
you
know
immediately
rear
to
the
side
to
detach
properties,
and
if
that
wasn't
the
case,
we
probably
would
be
looking
at
this
potentially
out
of
character.
O
But
for
us
to
stand
there
with
the
plan,
the
police,
commission
and
say
this
without
a
character
when
looking
at
me,
your
detached
properties
both
to
the
rear
and
to
the
the
right
of
that-
and
I
don't
think
we
would
be
on
that-
you
know
with
the
thing,
but
definitely
character
is
one
of
those
things
that
we
did
look
at
in
relation
to
building
lane
and
not
as
well.
You
know
our
in
place
if
it
was
immediately
up
that
road.
O
Yes,
but
you
can't
see
this-
you
have
to
go
right
down
and
front
to
side
before
you
see
it
so
that
all
has
to
be
in
the
package
as
well.
So
yes,
it's
a
very
good
question
and
there's
one
that
is
immediate
environments
and
if
there
were
semi
attached
to
the
rear
and
to
the
side
of
that
potentially,
yes,
we
would
be
looking
at
the
character.
D
Yes,
sir,
thanks
for
that
man
and
thank
you
shania
for
the
usual
detailed
report.
I
think
you
mentioned
about
the
presence
of
a
substation
in
the
vicinity
of
the
site.
Can
I
ask,
excuse
me
or
forgive
me,
I
fms
to
end
the
report
I
mean:
is
that
an
nia
or
that
and
I
water
or
whatever,
because
I
don't
see
in
the
statutory
council
days
list
for
anime
midnight
comment,
so
it's
just
for
charity
as
to
what
it
is
thanks
chair.
Thank
you.
Nick.
O
Yes,
it
is
an
nie
electrical
substation
and
that's
not
it's
been
untouched
with
stain
as
it
is,
and
it
actually
is
going
to
be
a
1.8
meter,
high
fencing
around
it
to
protect
it
from
any
abuse,
and
we've
also
consulted
the
environmental
health
and
relation
to
the
proximity
of
the
dwelling
in
that
regard,
as
well.
All
right.
J
Thank
you,
charlotte's
sister,
a
similar
vendor
mcclelland,
is,
is
there
any
means
of
access
for
nia
staff
to
get
into
the
to
the
substation?
Is
that
in
the
I
was
looking
at
the
picture?
Actually,
I'm
not
clear
is
that
in
the
footprint
of
the
site,
the
substation
and
well
they'll
just
be
able
to
get
in
that,
doesn't
mean
required,
or
could
the
owners
say
no
you're
not
getting
in
here
just
just
for
information
purposes,.
O
Yeah,
the
the
application
approved
would
actually
be
easier
access
to
the
substation
because
the
road
has
been
extended
and
this
new
two
meter
footpath,
will
actually
come
right
out
towards
the
front
of
this
night.
She'll
actually
be
able
to
walk
to
it,
but
previously
it's
sort
of
a
scrub,
land
and
overgrown,
but
they
that
will
not
be
closed
off
if
this
were
to
be
grounded,
it'd
probably
be
easier
to
get
access
to
that
substation.
A
A
I
suppose
I'll
start
off
and
say
this
is
she
had
to
say
this
very,
very
detailed
report
and
it's
pretty
clear
and
it's
it's
been.
It's
been
well
presented
this
evening.
I
think
it's
you
know
we're
always
worried
about
these
ones.
These
ones
like
this
one
actually
does
work
quite
well.
So
anybody
else
nope,
okay,
move
the
decision.
Members.
M
I
propose
a
quarterly,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
members,
I'm
seeing
no
lights,
therefore
opposed
exactly
and
all
agreed
great.
Okay,
thanks
members
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
one,
there's
appendix
number:
five
and
it's
application:
number
law,
eight
20,
20,
107,
04,
slash
f
and
the
senior
planning
officer
who's.
Making
the
presentation
of
the
report
and
powerpoint
is
trudy.
Chapman.
R
R
Eight
letters
of
objection
have
been
received
from
six
postal
addresses.
The
comments
made
can
be
summarized
as
increased
traffic,
insufficient
parking
access
to
neighboring
property,
loss
of
light
impact
and
privacy,
adverse
impact
on
property
values
that
all
residents
should
have
been
informed
of
the
proposal
and
concerns
over
who
the
occupants
will
be.
These
objections
have
been
considered
in
the
report
previously
circulated.
R
Officers
are
therefore
the
opinion
that
the
proposal
meets
the
policy
requirements
of
the
svps
pps7
and
its
addendum
and
all
other
relevant
planning
policies
and
supplementary
guidance,
and,
on
this
basis,
officers
recommend
that
members
approve
the
proposal
subject
to
the
conditions
set
out
in
the
report
and
then
I'll
just
take
you
through
the
powerpoint.
Please.
R
So
that's
our
location
of
the
site
within
the
general
area,
we're
in
the
southwest
corner
of
our
massa
next
type
is
this:
is
our
application
site,
so
you
can
see
there
the
layout
of
limestone
square
with
the
open
space
there
in
the
center
of
the
next
slide
please.
So
this
is
an
ariel
photograph.
R
The
area
to
the
bottom
right
of
the
development
is
our
application
site.
It's
the
one
element
that
hasn't
been
developed
yet
next
site
and
that's
a
close-up
just
to
show
you.
The
second
question
next
slide
please.
So
this
is
taken.
Look
from
the
middle
of
the
open
space,
looking
back
down
towards
the
site
and
it'll
be
in
the
gap
there
just
slightly
slightly
to
the
left
of
the
center
of
the
photograph
there
next
slide,
please.
So
this
is
looking
into
the
site
to
the
right.
R
We
have
number
67
69
to
the
rear
and
63
and
65
to
the
front.
67,
69
and
63
all
objected
to
the
proposal
next
slide,
please.
R
So
this
is
from
within
the
site
looking
back
sort
of
to
the
northeast,
so
the
white
house
on
the
elevated
side
is
actually
on
the
rock
road
and
then
the
the
house,
red
brick
house
there
at
the
front
is
59.
He
also
objected
to
the
proposal.
R
R
R
Next
slide,
please
these
are
our
proposed
elevations,
as
you
can
see,
it's
broadly
similar
to
the
one
that
has
already
been
built
next
slide,
please.
Those
are
our
floor
plans
next
slide.
That's
our
layout,
so
you'll
see
that
we
have
an
area
of
car
parking.
It
has
been
designed
in
such
a
way
that
it's
closest
to
the
houses
that
back
onto
it.
R
We've
also
got
areas
for
bin
storage
and
we
have
an
area
at
the
emptiness
to
the
development
where
they
can
put
their
bins
out
on
bin
collection
day,
to
make
sure
that
it's
kept
neat
and
tight
next
slide,
please,
so
those
are
our
bin
stores
on
the
next.
This
slide
on
the
next
show
are
sections
through
the
proposal.
R
Next
slide,
then,
is
our
housing
density,
so
we're
looking
at
the
actual
development
itself
and
the
the
three
nearest
ones
to
it.
The
one
on
the
right
you'll
see
that
the
the
bottom
one
in
pink
is
our
application
site.
The
one
in
green
is
the
other
apartment
that
has
been
built
and,
while
they're
both
their
regular
shapes,
they
both
do
measure
0.1
hectare
so
again,
there's
another
similarity
with
with
that
element.
R
Next
slide
please,
and
this
is
an
extract,
then
from
the
previously
approved
scheme.
So
this
was
what
was
going
to
be
built
in
the
bottom
right
corner.
As
you
can
see,
it
was
a
large
block.
The
nature
of
how
it
has
been
designed
is
that
you
can't
divide
it
into.
Had
you
been
able
to
take
it
right
down
the
middle.
R
A
Okay,
thank
you,
trudy,
okay,
members,
again,
there's
no
one
else
to
speak
on
this
application,
so
I'm
open
to
questions.
A
Okay,
members
have
no
lights
on,
but
today
I'll
ask
one
question
see
on
section
bb
and
obviously
the
back
of
the
apartments
are
very
close
to
the
to
quite
a
steep
slope.
How
are
they
dealing
with
that
landscape?
Wise?
Because
you
know,
if
I
lived
in
one
of
those
apartments,
I
wouldn't
want
to
look
out
on
a
you
know:
it's
it's
quite
stable.
Is
there
some
sort
of
landscape
type,
retaining
structure
there
or
what?
What
is
it?
Just?
No
detailer
thanks.
R
It's
actually
a
rock
face.
This
site
used
to
be
a
quarry,
so
it's
irma
limestone.
So
it's
not
everybody's
cup
of
tea,
but
it's
a
retaining
world,
that's
of
nature
whatsoever,
so
you
can
see
it
in
some
of
some
of
the
photographs
that
it's
it's
been
quarried
to
a
fairly
straight
rock
face.
It'll,
just
be
that,
like
that.
D
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
thank
you
for
that
man
on.
Thank
you
trudy
for
the
presentation.
Yet
it's
just
a
very,
very,
very
quick
one
in
terms
of
sort
of
clarity
you
did
say,
and
I
I'm
looking
at
the
photograph
taken
from
limestone
square,
showing
the
existing
apartment
block.
You
did
say
that
what
is
proposed
now
is
a
mirror
image
of
of
what
we
have
in
this
picture.
R
They
are
broadly
similar,
they're,
broadly
similar
in
terms
of
height
scale.
How
many
apartments
is
in
a
window
position
and
position
into
the
neighborhood?
There
may
be
some
minor
differences,
but
they're
broadly
the
same.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
trillian.
Thank
you,
council
macleod,
any
other
questions.
Members,
don't
see
any
lights
on,
I'm
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
debate
for
this
one.
So
no,
no,
no
lights
on.
I
suppose
my
opinion.
I
think
it
actually
finishes
the
development
quite
well.
If
it
matches
what
is
there
so
and
it
does,
it
does
make
sense
when,
when
when,
when
you
look
at
it
but
councilman
cloud.
D
A
M
I'll
seconds
our
proposal,
mr
chairman,
thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
country,
wilson.
Okay,
members
got
a
proposal
from
council
macleon
a
second
or
from
country
wilson,
to
accept
the
recommendation.
Any
other
proposals
on
the
floor
saying
new
lights
members
so
all
agreed
great,
okay
members.
Thank
you
very
much
and
now
we're
moving
on
to
our
last
application,
which
is
appendix
six
application,
number
la-08,
seven,
eight
f
and
she
needs
from
busy
tonight
there's
another
one
for
her
he's
a
senior
planner
she's
gonna
present
the
report
and
powerpoint
presentation,
sinead.
O
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
the
construction
of
the
northern
ireland
section
of
the
cross
border
ulster
canal,
greenway,
it's
more
cornwall
bridge
on
the
border
at
the
river
core
west
of
number,
one
three,
three,
four,
seven
mountain
roads
to
anagola,
bridge
and
middletown,
and
the
application
falls
in
the
major
category
of
development
and
also
as
an
application
which
is
made
by
the
council.
O
The
development
proposal
consists
of
the
creation
of
a
five
meter
wide
corridor
which
recovery
it's
a
foot,
a
pathway
up
to
three
meters
wide
and
a
drainage
buffer,
verge
up
to
one
meter
wide
on
each
side.
The
pathway
will
consist
of
an
unbound
granular
surface
course
of
gravel
and
dust.
Then
celery
structures
include
direction
of
approximately
1.2
meter,
high
timber
post
and
work
on
rail,
fencing
between
the
greenway
and
private
land,
adapted
to
be
stock
proof
fencing,
whereas
adjacent
agriculture,
breezing
land
and
the
reaction
of
1.2
meter
high
screening
adjacent
to
residential
developments.
F
O
Spps
recognizes
that
networks
of
green
spaces,
commonly
referred
to
as
green
infrastructure,
provide
a
wide
range
of
environmental
benefits
in
both
these
rural
and
urban
locations
and
can
provide
opportunities
for
social
interaction
by
serving
as
a
focal
point
for
recreation
and
community
activities.
This
green
infrastructure
are
designed
in
management
as
a
multi-functional
resource
capable
of
delivering
a
wide
range
of
environmental
and
quality
of
life
to
the
benefits
of
all
communities.
O
Officers.
Note
there's
an
error
in
the
paragraphs
of
ph
13
relates
to
the
newly
wrote.
The
car
park
has
been
designed
based
on
a
worst-case
scenario,
on
the
arrival
of
two
cars
per
hour
and
assumed
an
average
stay
of
two
hours
would
be
six
cars.
A
total
of
19
car
parking
spaces,
which
also
includes
one
disabled
space,
are
being
provided
within
the
car
park
and
will
provide
further
robustness
to
mitigate
risk
of
an
over
capacity
event
occurring.
O
Officers
can
confirm
the
access
cannot
recently
be
obtained
from
an
adjacent
minor
road
due
to
the
existence
of
the
core
river
and
there's
no
existing
vehicle
or
access
at
this
location.
The
proposal
therefore
fails
to
satisfy
annex
a
of
pps21
policy.
Cty1
states
that
other
types
of
development
will
only
prepare
it,
whether
overriding
reasons
where
development
is
essential
and
could
not
be
located
in
a
settlement.
O
The
car
park
is
located
here,
and
this
is
the
start
of
the
greenway
proposal.
Officer
of
the
opinion
that
the
need
and
location
of
this
car
park
is
essential
to
the
overall
project
providing
a
location
for
the
new
car
parking
facilities,
bike,
rack
picnic
area
and
a
water
refill
station
and
such
their
overriding
reasons
why
the
development
is
essential
here
and
could
not
be
located
in
a
certain
limit.
The
efi
rules
have
varies
the
should
council
plan
and
consider
the
principle
of
access
to
to
this
protective
route
to
be
acceptable.
O
The
detail
of
what
is
proposed
is
acceptable.
As
such,
they
would
not
have
any
significant
objection
to
this
proposal.
Proposalists
used
excessive
canal
banks
as
a
greenway
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians,
and
to
follow
the
command
where
canal
were
practical.
The
canal
bed
and
associated
structures
have
become
overgrown
with
vegetation
since
the
closure,
their
post
game
incorporates
several
extent,
structures
that
are
entered
into
the
historic
environment
divisions,
industrial
heritage
records.
O
O
No
third
party
representations
have
been
received
having
regard
to
the
above
and
after
undertaking
a
policy
assessment
and
plan
and
balancing
exercise
also
depending
on
post
development,
complies
with
various
plan.
The
spps
and
all
other
relevant
planning
policies
on
that
basis
and
subject
to
the
conditions
attached,
is
recommended
the
plan
and
permission
to
be
granted
taking
it
through
a
powerpoint
presentation.
O
That's
the
location
of
the
site,
so
it
said
to
the
south
of
a
middle
towns
is
just
north
of
the
border
of
monan
and
that
red
line
gives
an
overview
roughly.
So
it
roughly
follows
the
old
canal,
a
bridge
and
that's
the
modern
road
there
to
the
right
hand,
side,
that's
the
location
of
the
site,
a
within
the
general
area.
O
So
that's
sheet,
one
ones,
that's
coming
out
of
the
middletown
area
and
that's
the
closest
one
that's
going
to
be
to
a
residential,
a
receptor,
but
it's
an
existing
footpath
would
be
extensive,
and
that
is
a
sheep
too,
and
you
can
see
that
the
river
core
to
the
north
there.
So
it's
basically
following
that
route
and
that's
the
the
third.
So
it's
basically
a
a
gravel,
a
foot
pathway
and
then
sheet.
O
Four,
that's
the
last
was
taking
into
a
new
car
park
into
the
north
of
the
site
just
below
middletown,
and
that
just
shows
the
car
parking
arrangement.
Lakes.
Would
spain
a
19,
qr
parking
spaces,
picnic
area
and
it's
been
designed
to
ensure
that
all
vegas
can
come
in
and
out
safely,
so
it
just
shows
there
is
a
varchalogical
historic
interest
along
the
way.
So
that's
been
designed
to
sort
of
increase
the
visibility
of
these
structures
that
will
hopefully
pass
on
on
the
route.
O
At
the
start,
actually
our
connell
abducted
come
off
them
all
and
wrote
there
and
that's
successful.
So
you
will
start
you're
in
the
right
background
over
the
top
of
that
and
that's
just
basically
the
greenway
adjacent
to
the
modern
roads.
I
was
a
former
martin's
bridge
for
those
that
would
know
locally
and
that's
the
canal
log,
so
it'll
be
going
through
the
the
each
side
of
that
and
the
vegetation
removal,
and
there
was
some
profile
reprofiling
there
of
the
land
to
ensure
that
it's
am
level
throughout.
A
Thank
you
cheney
for
your
report
and
presentation.
Okay,
members
again,
there's
no
one
else
to
speak
on
this,
so
any
questions.
A
A
O
A
O
D
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
and
thank
you
sunil
for
the
presentation
and
yeah
it's
a
kind
of
maybe
following
on
in
the
cmv
and
as
your
couple
of
questions
sure
and
that's
and
it
might.
It
might
not
be
within
the
remit
of
this
committee,
but
just
I
would
be
interested
in
terms
of
any
insurance
implications
in
terms
of
adjacent
land
owners
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
But
I
I,
as
I
said,
I've
I
I
totally
realized
that
that
might
be
out
with
our
responsibility
this
evening,
but
anyway.
A
Yeah
yeah,
it
was
kind
of
the
angle
I
was
going,
but
I
think
it
is
it's
an
estate
thing
councilman.
We
can
speak
to
over
in
the
states
to
make
sure
that,
obviously,
that
it
was
in
council
ownership
that
we're
in
control
of
it
and
and
etc.
So
look
are
you
happy
enough
guys
for
traveling,
okay
right?
Okay,
any
other
questions.
Remember!
G
You
start
just
leaning
towards
it,
hey
good
report
and
it's
good
to
see
the
council
having
a
good
new
news
story
in
the
area
and
allowing
people
access
to
get
in
and
out
and
get
out
and
about
on
parking
that
they
can
access
it
rather
than
the
walkways
they
put
it
in
which
had
a
novel
difficulty.
For
a
long
time.
A
bit
parking
and
still
probably
does
sounds
very
well
used,
and
I'd
say
this
once
it's
complete
will
be.
A
S
Yeah,
just
a
similar
viendo
can't
start
afraid.
Mr
chairman,
that's
like
the
only
the
only
thing
that
I
would
have
liked
this
in
was
it
the
the
green
mech
continuing
right
to
the
village?
You
know
it
just
does
stop
short,
but
I
suppose,
when
my
counselor
had
on
that,
I
do
recognize.
It
has
the
potential
to
revitalize
that
area,
but
and
from
a
platinum
point
of
view.
You
know
again.
Sinead
has
produced
a
very
good
report
there
and
I'm
very
happy.
A
Let's
put
that
way
and
it
it
obviously
takes
a
lot
of
boxes,
sustainable
travel
and
you
know
health
and
well-being
and
people
out
walking
and
the
potential
of
of
of
this
being
some
sort
of
like
you
know,
for
tourists
and
things
you
know
just
just
out
and
about,
as
you
say,
it'll,
hopefully
revitalize
and
help
you
know
middletown
village
going
forward.
So,
okay
members
debate,
I'm
gonna
close,
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
decision
and
council
mcnally.
A
A
Okay,
members,
I'm
saying
no
lights
on
all
agree:
okay.
Members.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
thanks
everybody.
That's
the
end
of
of
may's
planning
meeting.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
planned
office
for
their
presentations
for
the
reports.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
work
and
getting
those
together.
I
want
to
thank
our
legal
advisor
a
lot
to
do
today,
but
there's
other
days
you
have
on
and
obviously
on
the
council
staff
for
enabling
a
very
smooth
meeting.