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From YouTube: Asheville Regional Housing Consortium – July 6, 2023
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Regular meeting of the Asheville Regional Housing Consortium.
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A
B
Right,
we
should
be
live
good
afternoon.
Everyone
I
am
Sage
Turner,
chair
of
the
Asheville
Regional
Housing
Consortium
I'd,
like
to
welcome
you
to
our
meeting
today.
It's
July
6
2023.,
we're
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
engagement,
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city's
website.
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen
live
by
phone.
That
number
is.
B
855-925-2801
and
when
prompted
the
meeting
code
is
8763
I'm
going
to
go
through
and
do
introduction
and
board
members
and
staff,
and
if
you
could
please
come
off
mute
briefly
and
say
a
quick
hello.
We
know
that
Robin
Merrill
Vice
chair
town
of
Marshall-
and
she
allowed
me
to
say
this
candidate
for
District
Judge,
Robin
Merrell-
will
be
absent
today,
but
I'm
thrilled
to
be
able
to
say
that
Karen
Keno
Karen
join
us.
I
thought
that's
all!
No
okay,
Sam
Starbomb
yeah.
C
Yeah
thanks
so
much
Sam
Starr
mom
planner
2,
with
the
city
of
Asheville,
representing
here
for
the
first
time
as
a
full
voting
member
of
the
boards
welcome.
B
B
Great
thank
you
and
welcome
Jennifer
Miranda.
B
H
B
B
B
C
J
B
C
B
B
Okay,
all
right,
just
making
sure
okay,
we
are
going
to
quickly
get
moving.
We've
approved
the
minutes
from
March
and
we
have
some
Community
Economic
Development
staff
updates
from
Nikki
Reed
Nikki.
You
want
to
do
a
quick.
D
D
It
has
been
a
while,
since
this
group
has
convened
so
I
wanted
to
do
a
proper
introduction
of
Dennis,
and
so
Dennis
will
be
our
our
staff
manager
for
the
Regional
Housing
Consortium.
We're
very
fortunate
that
Dennis
actually
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
fact,
has
worked
with
a
a
Regional
Housing
Consortium
like
this
in
his
in
his
previous
employment.
So
Dennis
has
been
with
the
city
for
maybe
seven
weeks
now,
I
think
eight
eight
yeah
all
right
so
eight
weeks,
a
semester,
so
we're
we're
really
glad
to
have
him.
D
In
fact,
he
had
some
ideas.
I
know
this
group
has
talked
about,
hopefully
convening
in
person
to
really
get
to
know
one
another.
Maybe
do
some
board
training,
so
he
and
I
have
been
talking
about
that,
but
really
I.
Think
Dennis
I'd
like
to
just
give
you
the
floor.
If
you
can
share
a
bit
about
your
background
and
perhaps
give
us
some
more
ideas
to
consider
with
respect
to
an
in-person
meeting
for
our
next
convening
so
Dennis
I'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
you.
Thank.
I
I
With
regards
to
the
Consortium
and
the
things
that
Nikki
and
I
have
spoken
about
and
would
like
to
convey
to
all
of
you.
First
of
all,
at
some
point
in
time,
and
probably
the
next
meeting
I'll
ask
that
we
do
it
in
person
meeting
for
a
couple
reasons,
one
to
provide
some
training
with
regards
to
our
role
as
to
participate
in
jurisdiction
of
the
PJ
and
your
role
as
members
of
the
consortship
I
am
very
cognizant.
I've
been
reminded
several
times
that
it's
not
just
about
Asheville.
I
It's
four
counties
involved,
so
I
will
always
remember
that
in
our
discussions
and
I'm
certain
that,
as
my
attorneys
have
gone
so
far,
if
I
forget
I'll,
be
reminded
of
that.
I
But
having
said
that,
I
think
that
for
the
work
that's
gone
on
in
the
past
and
then
and
certainly
credit
to
you
Jonathan
as
well
for
the
things
that
have
gone
on
here
in
the
past,
they've
really
had
a
tremendous
impact
on
the
four
counties:
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
continue
that
I'm,
hoping
that,
through
the
remaining
funding
that
we
have
available,
as
well
as
new
funds
and,
of
course,
with
the
home
ARP
funds
that
we're
able
to
have
even
greater
impact
in
our
community
serving
low
to
moderate
income
persons.
So
thank
you.
B
B
So
interesting
idea
on
getting
together
in
person,
I
will
say
in
the
three
years
I
have
been
sharing
this
board.
I
have
never
met
in
person
with
you
all,
because
we
started
in
covid,
and
that
is
just
strange.
You
know
fine
with
doing
this
virtual.
It
does
ease
our
schedules
a
little
bit,
but
we'll
talk
about
it.
I
appreciate
the
invitation
to
get
us
all
together.
B
I
So
I'm
gonna
do
Miranda
and
a
little
bit
of
Christina
too.
I
Okay
with
regard
to
home,
ARP
I,
don't
know
I'm,
assuming
that
you
all
have
some
familiarity
with
that
program,
but
the
home
ARP
was
the
last
of
the
harpa
type
related
activities
that
were
funded
by
Congress
and
in
doing
so
with
this
one
there's
some
opportunities
to
do
some
things
with
the
home
program
that
we
perhaps
couldn't
do
Under
the
regular
home
program
you
approved
as
part
of
the
application
to
head
for
funding,
addressing
two
issues:
housing,
construction
of
course-
and
then
the
second
area
was
Supportive
Services,
very
excited
about
the
support
of
services
piece
many
times.
I
We
are
one
situation
where
we're
faced
with
trying
to
provide
affordable
housing,
but
we
forget
in
many
instances
that
keeping
what's
been
obtained
is
very,
very
difficult.
So
the
idea
of
providing
wraparound
Services,
if
you
will,
that,
will
assist
people
to
maintain
what
they
currently
have
as
they
aspire
to
obtain
new
or
additional
type
of
housing,
is
kind
of
what
this
section
is
about
in
my
short
time
here,
one
of
the
things
that
I
recommended
doing
was
based
on
a
couple
of
things.
I
One
I
recognize
that
the
construction
season
is
slipping
away
and
so
the
construction
piece
of
this
Remains,
the
most
important
part.
To
that
end,
we
are
going
to
do
two
requests
for
proposals,
one
that
will
address
the
construction
aspect
of
it
and
it's
my
hope
that
by
early
August,
that
RFP
will
be
out
the
same
with
Supportive
Services.
I
There
are
some
non-profit
organizations
in
the
four
counties
that
may
have
a
desire
to
participate
in
accessing
funds
and
Supportive
Housing,
but
aren't
necessarily
involved
in
the
construction
of
housing,
so
the
opportunity
to
split
both
of
those
up
kind
of
made
sense
to
us
at
a
department
level
more
on
both
of
those
later,
but
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
update
at
this
particular
point.
I
wanted
you
to
know
that
we
are
in
the
works
of
trying
to
get
both
of
these
out
as
soon
as
possible
and
I'm,
hoping
by
August
September.
B
Wow
that's
helpful
and
we
are
certainly
abreast
of
the
process
and
we've
kind
of
slowed
down
and
I
think
you
know
looking
back
I'm
glad
we
have
slowed
down
now
that
we
are
where
we
are
I
think
some
situations
have
settled
some
others
have
risen.
So
it's
going
to
be
helpful.
I
think
that
we
didn't
just
rush
out
of
the
gate
and
determine
how
to
use
this
funding.
So
thank
you
for
the
update
and
I.
B
Is
that
so
that's
all
you
wanted
to
share
on
both
correct,
correct,
okay,
great
I,
like
that,
how
concise
too
so
for
those
of
you
listening
we've
completed
number
four
and
we're
now
moving
on
to
number
five,
which
is
a
Homeward
Bound
tpra
Amendment,
an
update
who
is
presenting
on
that
or
sharing
I
am
okay,
hi
Laura,
hey!
How
are
you
good
go
ahead?
You've
got
the
floor.
B
I,
don't
know
if
our
staff
doing
it
or
you've
got
it.
Athena's
gonna
pull.
K
Okay,
okay,
so
this
is
the
Homeward
Bound
home
TBR
Amendment
next
slide.
So
key
takeaways
from
this.
In
early
2023,
Homer
and
Bowden
met
with
the
city
staff
to
discuss
the
difficulties
they're
encountering
while
trying
to
spend
home
tbra
funds.
They
were
awarded
over
multiple
fiscal
years
in
order
to
be
good.
Stewards
of
the
funds
difficulties
at
Homeward
Bound
expressed
included
a
shift
in
the
homeless
population
within
the
city
of
Asheville,
High
staff
turnover
and
the
upcoming
conclusion
of
cdbg
CB
funding,
which
is
being
used
for
Rapid
rehousing
purposes.
K
The
agency
has
seen
a
diminishing
number
of
chronically
homeless
individuals
who
need
long-term
Housing
Services
and
they
would
qualify
for
permanent,
Supportive
Housing
Programs
and
an
increasing
number
of
individuals
experiencing
episodes
of
homelessness
that
do
not
need
long-term
Supportive
Services
and
they
qualify
for
Rapid,
rehousing
programs.
Homeward
Bound
does
not
have
any
tbra
funds
that
were
allocated
for
the
use
within
the
rapid
rehousing
program.
All
their
tbra
funds
previously
awarded
are
to
be
used
to
support
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
program.
K
So
a
little
bit
about
their
home
TBR
program,
Homeward
bounds,
home
tbra
funds
are
to
be
used
to
help
the
chronically
homeless.
Households
obtain
permanent,
supported
housing,
and
this
is
done
in
the
form
of
utility
deposits,
security
deposits,
Utility
payments
and
rent
payments
for
the
fiscal
year.
2021
Homeward
Bound
was
awarded
eighty
thousand
dollars.
They
have
about
74
000
of
that
still
remaining
and
the
same
year
they
got
awarded
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
home
t-bra
funds
and
those
are
to
be
used
within
Buncombe
County.
K
For
the
fiscal
year
21-22
home
rebound
was
awarded
eighty
thousand
dollars
in
home
tbra
funds
to
be
used
within
the
city
of
Asheville
and
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
home
TV
Ray
funds
to
be
used
within
Buncombe
County.
Both
of
these
allocations
have
not
gone
to
contract
yet,
and
that's
the
amendment
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
is
to
those
two
fiscal
year.
K
Next
slide
continuing
on
about
their
tbra
program,
like
I,
said
earlier
all
of
Homeward
bounds.
Tbr
allocations
are
slowly
to
be
used
within
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
program.
They
do
not
currently
have
any
tbra
funds
that
can
be
used
within
the
rapid
rehousing
program.
Tbra
funds
that
are
used
within
City
Limits
are
linked
with
community
building
and
block
grant
Housing
Services
funds.
Cdbg
funds
are
currently
used
for
the
management
of
Homeward
bounds,
tbra
funds
for
their
permanent
Supportive
Housing
program
and
then
for
the
fiscal
year.
K
K
Thank
you,
yeah
you're
welcome
next
slide
and
because
these
are
tied
to
the
cdbg
funds,
just
a
little
bit
about
their
cdbg
Housing
Services
Program
Homeward
Bound
cdbg
Housing
Services
funds
are
used
to
administer
the
tvra
actual
funds
to
help
chronically
homeless.
Individuals
obtain
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
and
this
is
primarily
used
to
pay
for
the
salaries
of
permanent
Supportive
Housing
program
staff.
For
the
fiscal
year
22-23
Homeward
Bound
was
awarded
82
000.
They
have
about
50
000
of
that
remaining
of
cdbg
funds.
K
The
funds
are
currently
being
used
to
administer
the
fiscal
year,
2021
tbra
funds
and
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
program,
and
then
recently
for
the
fiscal
year
23-24
home
rebound
was
awarded
about
108
thousand
dollars
in
cdbg
funds
for
Housing
Services.
This
funding
is
to
be
used
for
the
administration
of
Home
TV
funds,
both
for
permanent
Supportive
Housing
and
for
Rapid
re-housing.
This
allocation
has
not
gone
to
contract
yet
because
we're
still
waiting
on
the
HUD
contract
to
come
through
next
slide.
K
So
I
made
this
little
graph
to
kind
of
explain
which
funds
we're
trying
to
amend
the
ones
in
green.
We're
going
to
keep
the
same,
but
the
ones
in
red
we
want
to
amend
them
to
also
incorporate
rapid
re-housing
as
an
eligible
use
for
their
funds.
So
we
want
to
change
the
2021,
both
the
Home
Asheville
Teaberry
funds
and
the
Buncombe
County
TBR
refunds.
K
Next
slide,
so
staff
recommendations
Homer
bound.
They
already
have
an
existing
rapid
re-housing
program.
They've
shown
their
capacity
to
effectively
run
the
program
with
demonstrated
outcomes.
This
amendment
would
align
with
the
most
recent
fiscal
year,
2324
cdbg
Housing
Services
allocation,
which
provides
services
in
both
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
program
and
the
rapid
re-housing
program,
and
this
would
also
allow
for
the
fiscal
year
23-24
cdbg
funds
to
be
used
to
administer
the
fiscal
year.
K
21-22
home
TBR
funds,
the
fiscal
year
2122
home
TBR
funds
have
not
gone
a
contract
yet
because
they
only
serve
permanent
Supportive,
Housing
clients
and
there's
already
an
existing
and
mostly
unspent
amount
of
money
from
the
previous
fiscal
year
that
serves
the
same
population.
This
amendment,
allowing
rapid
rehousing
to
be
used
for
these
funds,
serves
a
slightly
different
population
which
would
allow
us
to
go
to
contract
immediately
and
drawn
down
from
the
funds
as
soon
as
possible.
The
amendment
would
likely
result
in
a
shorter
average
length
of
program.
K
K
Key
takeaways
in
early
2023
Homer
and
Ben
Homer
bound
met
with
the
staff
to
discuss
the
difficulties
they
were
countering
while
trying
to
spend
down
these
funds
difficulties
included
a
shift
in
the
homeless
population,
High
staff
turnover
and
the
conclusion
of
the
cdbg
CB
funding,
which
was
used
to
support
the
rapid
rehousing
program.
K
The
agency
has
seen
a
diminishing
number
of
chronically
homeless
individuals
who
need
long-term
Housing
Services
those
qualify
for
permanent
Supportive
Housing
Programs
and
an
increasing
number
of
individuals
experiencing
episodes
of
homelessness
that
do
not
need
long-term
Supportive
Services.
Those
who
qualify
for
rep,
rehousing
programs,
Homeward
Bound,
does
not
have
any
tbra
funds
that
were
allocated
for
the
use
within
the
rapid
rehousing
program.
All
TBA
funds
previously
awarded
are
to
be
used
to
support
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
program
staff
is
seeking
action
to
amend
the
fiscal
year.
B
L
B
B
Thank
you
both
for
being
here,
I
just
have
a
couple
questions
about
I'd
love
to
hear
from
y'all
how
this
has
played
out
up.
So
this
is
the
first
time
hearing
about
it.
I'm
sorry,
I
wasn't
as
prepared
as
it
normally
would
be.
So
it
sounds
like
you
had
previous
cdbg
that
was
doing
rapid,
rehousing
funding
that
dried
up
in
the
meantime,
you
had
picked
up
this
other
funding,
but
it's
not
being
used
as
quickly
as
you
thought,
so
you
want
to
reallocate
what
from
your
perspectives
either
one
of
you
like
what?
B
L
I
can
speak
to
the
I
mean
the
money
was
awarded
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
and
through
the
past
two
years,
we've
just
had
a
a
really
high
amount
of
staff
turnover
both
in
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
but
in
particular,
at
a
hope
and
in
the
homeless,
Services
side
of
our
work,
and
because
of
that,
we've
not
been
able
to
slate
clients
as
quickly
as
we
historically
do,
just
as
we've
been
playing
catch
up
with
staff
training
and
having
staff
cover
caseloads,
while
we're
in
the
hiring
process.
L
At
the
same
time,
we're
also,
you
know,
probably
six
to
eight
weeks
away
from
opening
Compass
Point
Village,
which
will
have
85
permanent
Supportive
Housing
additional
units
added
to
the
community,
and
so
there's
already
a
really
big
push
for
Esh
happening
right
now
within
Homeward
Bound,
and
then
all
of
the
funding
that
Lacey's
program
has
had
up
till
this
point
was
all
covered
relief
funding,
and
so
the
you
know
our
idea
was.
We
want
to
be
good
stewards
of
this
money.
L
We
want
to
spend
it
down
also
based
on
the
recommendation
of
the
National
Alliance,
that
our
area
really
needs
to
grow
rapid
rehousing.
It
just
made
sense
to
investigate
if
we
could
move
These
funds
to
Rapid
re-housing
so
that
we
could
continue
to
to
do
rapid
rehousing
in
our
community
and
also
spend
down
this
money
faster
than
we've
been
able
to
in
the
past
and
then
lace.
If
there's
anything,
you
want
to
add,
feel
free.
H
I
mean
I
think
that
pretty
much
covers
it.
I
think
I
just
want
to
add
that
at
the
same
time
that
that
things
have
slowed
down
a
little
bit
for
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
they
have
not
slowed
down
for
Rapid
re-housing.
So
we've
seen
a
study,
a
steady
number
of
folks
who
qualify
for
Rapid
rehousing
services,
and
we
also
are
very
interested
in
growing
the
rapid
rehousing
program
here
because
of
the
National
Alliance
recommendation
that
we
add
200
slots
in
our
community.
B
J
K
I
can
answer
that,
for
you,
it's
tied
directly
to
both
the
application
and
what
we
told
HUD.
We
were
going
to
do
with
the
funds
so
now,
in
order
for
us
to
change
it,
we
have
to
do
the
whole
process
of
going
back
to
HUD
after
we
talk
to
you
guys,
so
we
can
go
to
council
and
get
approved,
but
we're
pretty
much
be
holding
to
what
we
told
HUD
hi
thanks.
Thank
you.
K
Did
you
guys
say
yesterday,
then?
Yes,
hello,
go
to
the
next
yeah
30-day
notice
after
this,
so.
B
B
Any
other
questions
for
Homeward,
Bound
or
staff.
Okay,
I
saw
Sam
and
then
I
like
that
Rusty's
coming
up
as
Woodfin
now
I.
Don't
really
love
that,
but
Sam
go
ahead.
Yeah.
C
There's
a
little
bit
of
cognitive
dissonance
if
you
worked
for
Ricky
here
in
Asheville
to
see
that
too
I
wanted
to
say,
of
course
thank
you,
Lacey
and
Jenny
for
your
time
and
some
explanation:
I
I
get
conceptually
the
difference
between
primitive,
supportive
and
Rapid
re-housing,
but
lazy.
Specifically
I
was
hoping
you
could
talk
about
the
nuts
and
the
bolts
of
what
rapid
re-housing
looks
like
in
Asheville,
and
you
would
also
mentioned
the
qualifications
for
this.
H
Sure
so,
in
terms
of
the
qualifications
for
Rapid
re-housing,
the
target
population
is
not
typically
chronically
homeless.
Individuals,
although
we
do
serve
some
individuals
who
have
chronicity.
H
H
So
the
the
program
works
in
such
a
way
that
we
provide
financial
assistance
with
rent
and
utilities,
as
well
as
Supportive
Services,
to
help
folks
figure
out
ways
to
increase
their
income
with
the
goal
of
them,
eventually
stopping
case
management,
whereas
with
permanent
Supportive,
Housing,
they're
receiving
case
management
really
for
the
duration
of
the
time
that
they're
in
the
program
there's
not
really
like
a
time
limit,
but
we're
providing
case
management
for
a
period
of
a
couple
of
months
to
up
to
two
years
and
during
that
time,
we're
working
with
them
to
again
increase
their
income,
make
it
sustainable
for
them
to
eventually
be
housed
on
their
own
without
support.
G
H
H
We
also
have
had
our
fair
share
of
some
staffing
issues
here
and
so
I
don't
think.
We've
been
able
to
quite
meet
the
capacity
that
I
would
like
to
see
us
meet,
but
we
are.
We
are
placing
folks
in
housing
at
a
pretty
steady
rate.
I
think
we
we
actually
just
this
week
had
just
between
this
week
and
last
week
we
have
had
five
households
move
into
housing
in
our
rapid
rehousing
program,
that's
funded
by
our
ESG
dollars,
and
we
love
to
be
able
to
also
be
moving
folks
into
housing.
H
Utilizing
the
cdbg
funding
for
Staffing
and
home
TBR
as
well.
I
think
we
could
definitely
see
the
same
sorts
of
numbers.
F
Yeah,
so
I
was
I,
guess
kind
of
a
question
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
what
you
all
are
seeing
when
it
comes
to
know
the
number
of
folks
who
are
experiencing
chronic
homelessness.
If
we're
shifting
funds
away
from
those
programs,
you
know
what
what
are
the?
What
are
those
numbers
looking
at
you're,
looking
like
from
year
in.
L
You
know
if
you're
looking
at
the
point
in
time
count
numbers.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
a
decrease
in
chronic
numbers
with
compass
point
Village
coming
on
point.
In
addition
to
the
Ramada
renovation,
that
step
up
is
doing,
you
know
we'll
see.
A
heavy
amount
of
over
40
percent
of
the
folks
in
our
community
who
are
chronically
homeless
will
have
an
opportunity
to
move
into
housing
between
these
two
projects.
L
Alone
in
addition
to
I,
would
say,
family
rebound
has
stabilized
at
this
point
on
some
level
as
far
as
case
manager,
staff
turnover
so
we'll
also
begin
to
pick
back
up
slating
clients
to
store
our
regular
HUD
COC
grants
and
to
finish
off
the
2020
2021
home
funding,
but
the
biggest
need
within
our
organization
and
the
biggest
Gap
in
our
community
for
housing.
Support
right
now
is
within
rapid
rehousing.
There's
not
really
any
other
agencies,
besides
helpmate,
which
is
targeting
you
know,
a
very
specific
portion
of
the
homeless
population.
L
There's
really
no
other
agency
doing
rapid
root
housing
at
this
point
for
civilians
in
the
in
the
community
and
so
to
try
to
open
up
space
for
folks
that
we
know
have
potential
to
earn
income
and
stabilize
before
they
become
chronically
homeless
and
then
join
that
that
list
of
folks
that
are
already
on
the
chronic
list.
F
L
No,
we
will
continue
to
serve
the
same
and
additional
folks
in
psh
with
the
HUD
COC
funding,
plus
this
remaining
home
money.
Now,
when
we
down
the
road
go
to
apply
for
additional
home
funding
in
the
future,
we
would
probably
apply
for
it
in
a
way
that,
if
that
funding
could
be
used
for
Rapid,
rehousing
or
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
based
on
kind
of
what
the
needs
were
in
the
community.
L
At
that
point,
when
we
applied
for
these
funds,
we
didn't
have
our
battery
housing
at
that
point,
so
we
were
pretty
focused
just
on
psh.
F
As
far
as
outcomes,
do
you
see
those
shifting
and
like
between
the
two
grants,
I
think
there
was
like
30
households
for
TBR
for
private
re-housing
and
Asheville
and
maybe
12
in
Duncan,
or
maybe
the
other
way
around
for
each
of
those?
Is
that
do
you?
Do
you
see
any
outcomes?
Changes
in
the
contracts
is
this
this
group.
F
H
E
Thank
you
kind
of
just
follow
up.
I
guess
to
to
Jonathan's
question
is
about
the
outcomes
and
the
period
of
performance,
just
making
sure
that
those
are
clear.
I
would
imagine
the
programs
are
different,
but
what
you
can
actually
perform
with
the
same
amount
of
money.
E
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
like
your
anticipated
household
impact,
how
long
you
can
support
them
in
an
Iraq
rehousing
scenario
versus
a
permanent
Supportive
Housing
scenario,
just
making
sure
that
that's
really
clear
and
that
those
really
are
the
outcomes
that
we're
looking
at
I.
Think
this
group
knows
that
I'm
always
I
have
been
consistently
leery
of
tbra,
because
there's
been
an
issue
with
spin
down
and
and
not
just
particular,
to
Homeward,
Bound
and
I
appreciate
knowing
what
this
the
issue
has
been
for
them.
E
E
I
think
that
that's
really
kind
of
just
my
my
question
is
making
sure
that
what's
included
is
accurate
and
then
just
for
clarification,
is
there
a
reason
that
we
wouldn't
leave
it
established
that
they
could
use
the
funding
for
both
scenarios
right?
If
we're
going
to
look
at
that
in
the
future,
is
there
a
reason
that
we're
switching
wholly
from
one
to
the
other
and
not
leaving
the
opportunity
for
both
to
be
served?
Can.
K
So
the
whole
amendment
is
to
include
rapid
re-housing
with
the
permit
Supportive
Housing,
with
an
emphasis
placed
upon
rapid
re-housing
clients.
So
it
ends
up
that
you
know
the
rapid
rehousing
clients
aren't
coming
through
as
fast
or
as
numerous
as
we
thought.
They
still
have
the
option
to
use
it
with
permanent
Supportive
Housing.
K
E
I
think
I
mean
that
answers
my
question,
particularly
with
this,
that
it's
open
to
both
and
then
that
to
me
also
answers
the
other
question
about
projected
outcomes,
because
they're
going
to
base
it
on
a
more
conservative,
I,
think
impact
which
would
be
permanent,
supportive
as
a
more
expensive
or
perhaps
more
costly,
long-term,
sustained
expense,
so
I
wouldn't
see
them
the
shift
if
you're
leaving
both
options
open
it
just
didn't.
It
wasn't
clear
to
me
so
I
appreciate
that
yeah.
L
Other
question:
if
we
end
up
spending
the
majority
of
that
funding
for
referee
housing,
I
believe
the
outcomes
will
be
higher
than
what
is
currently
stated
in
the
contract
but,
as
Matthew
said,
I
think
we
want
to
be
prepared
for
for
either
either
way.
We
need
to
use
the
fun,
but
right
now
the
plan
is
to
definitely
push
those
two
rapid
rehousing.
So
I
could
see
the
outcomes
actually
being
higher
Jonathan
Jones.
F
Yeah
sorry
I
said
last
one
I
promise
as
far
as
shifting
to
Rapid
rehousing
and
getting
people
into
units
quickly.
What
is
what
is
the
unit
availability?
Look
like
in
the
community
for
you
all
right
now,
I
mean
I
know,
that's
been
a
struggle
for
everybody,
but
as
you're
shipping
funding.
If
you
see
that
as
something
that's
going
to
be
more
challenging
now
or
any
movement.
H
I
mean
I,
think
it
is
challenging
to
locate
affordable
units
within
city
of
Asheville
limits,
but
our
housing
team
is
highly
skilled
and
they're
they're
working
all
the
time
to
develop
really
strong
relationships
with
landlords,
and
so
even
though
we
we
have
seen
the
same
struggles
that
other
folks
have
seen
with
finding
available
units.
It
has
not
really
slowed
down
our
ability,
I,
would
say
across
programs
to
find
units
and
place
people.
So
I
think
that,
although
that
is
a
bit
of
a
barrier,
we
are
pretty
well
versed
in
this
barrier.
E
I
just
wanted
to
to
jump
in
and
piggyback
on
that
only
because
I
feel
like
we
need
to
acknowledge
if
we're
making
this
shift,
given
that
the
home
article
cleaning
process
suggested
that
we
shouldn't
be
allocating
funds
from
that
pot
of
money
to
tbra
because
of
the
difficulty
in
finding
affordable
units
for
that
use,
they
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
homework
planning
process
and
what
we
can
actually
perform.
E
That
can
change
over
time
or
what
an
organization
feels
that
they
can
do,
but
I
feel
like
it
would
have
been
remiss
not
to
acknowledge
kind
of
the
homework
guiding
us
away
from
that
and
then
we're
taking
regular
home
funds
and
doing
the
work
so
I
appreciate
them.
You
know
letting
us
know
that
that's
not
been
a
barrier
for
them
in
deploying
their
funds
in
that
area.
At
this
point,.
I
Did
and
and
actually
Laura
answered
the
question
very
well.
I
I
do
want
to
add
that,
with
respect
to
making
the
switch,
the
thought
process
is
one
of
flexibility,
but
also
keeping
in
mind
a
couple
other
things,
one,
it's
very
difficult
to
find
housing
throughout
the
United,
States
rental,
housing
and
Asheville,
and
the
counties
are
not
exempt
from
that
home.
Tbra
makes
it
very
difficult
to
do
that.
I
Home
tbra
under
ARP
makes
it
even
more
difficult,
but
the
flexibility
should
be
there
simply
for
the
fact
that
in
most
cases,
those
are
identified
as
needed,
permanent
supported,
housing
and
and
while
I
acknowledge
that
I
think
we
all
can
acknowledges
as
well.
I
I
I
appreciate
very
much
the
fact
that
they
have
a
team
in
place
now
that
that's
been
out
on
the
streets
throughout
the
counties
attempting
to
work
with
landlords.
It's
a
very
difficult
process
in
of
itself,
and
we
are
supportive
of
that,
but
we're
also
very
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
every
day
that
need
a
place
to
stay
out
of
the
rapid
rehousing
model
that
makes
the
most
sense
and
I
think
from
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
We
should
be
able
to
recognize
that,
with
regards
to
goals
that
are
established,
that
rapid
housing
assistance,
housing
will
prevail
permanent
support
of
housing
at
this
time.
If
we
were
having
this
conversation
10
years
ago,
I'd
say
something
entirely
different,
but
we're
at
a
a
major
crisis
mode
right
now,.
B
A
B
Nash
is
going
to
be
their
new
interim.
That's
I,
think
incredible
in
itself.
So
all
right,
I'm
ready
for
a
motion.
Would
anyone
care
to
make
it
if
they
have
it
in
front
of
them.
B
Me
to
make
it
okay
I
recommend
that
the
Asheville
Regional
Housing
Consortium
approved
one
an
amendment
to
the
fiscal
fiscal
year.
2122
annual
action
plan
modifying
the
activities
of
the
Homeward
Bound
of
Western,
North,
Carolina,
home
tenant-based
rental
assistance
program
to
include
both
Supportive
Housing
and
rapid
rehousing
and
two
authorize
the
city
manager
to
sign
all
necessary
documents
to
this
effect.
That
language
was
in
our
motion
both
of
the
programs.
B
C
B
Hi
Forrest
Ricky.
G
A
B
John
I'm,
so
sorry,
I
can't
see
you
all
on
my
screen.
It's
nothing
personal
I!
Just
can't
see
you
okay,
so
that
motion
passes
and
we'll
move
on
to
council
City
staff.
If
you
could
expedite
that
through
our
July
meeting,
it
sounds
like
that
would
be
helpful
and
on
to
our
next
agenda
item.
That
concludes
item
number
five
and
we're
now
going
on
to
item
number
six,
the
Villas
at
Haywood
update.
I
And
I
know
just
enough
to
be
dangerous
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
that
we'll
be
allowed
to
send
correspondence
to
you
all
regarding
that
decision,
and
we
can
talk
about
it
further.
If
you'd
like
during
our
next
meeting.
B
B
August,
okay,
okay!
Well
then,
we
can
probably
stand
to
delay
on
that
and
goodness
that
is
other
than
public
comment.
The
only
thing
on
our
agenda
left
so
concluding:
number
six
and
going
on
to
seven
public
comment:
do
we
have
anyone
on
the
phone
dying
to
speak?
No,
we
have
no
public
comment.
We've
answered
all
of
their
questions,
I
guess,
okay.
B
I
I
don't,
but
why
don't
I
suggest
that
we
have
Dana,
send
out
a
doodle
poll
with
a
couple
of
dates
and
times
and
also
locations
that
are
suitable
to
the
group,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
go
from
there.
That.
I
B
It
will
be
great
to
finally
see
some
of
you
in
person
anything
else
before
we
adjourn
today.
Anyone
all
right,
oh
Dana,.
A
Go
ahead,
I
will
say
since
I'll
be
sending
out
the
poll
I'll
do
that
soon,
but
if
there
is
a
place
in
anyone's
jurisdiction
that
you
know
would
just
be
perfect
like
to
have
everyone
come
there
feel
free
to
email
it
to
me
or
if
you
have
suggestions
in
each
other's
jurisdictions.
That's
fine
as
well.
Just
don't
email
each
other,
because
we'll
break
open
meeting
laws
so
just
send
it
directly
to
me
and
that'll
be
perfect
good.
B
Point
and
if
we
want
to
try
and
do
it
around
a
lunch
or
something
we
could
I
guess,
but
just
explore
that
since
it
sounds
like
you
know,
some
folks
might
drive
45
minutes
to
meet
for
an
hour
and
drive
45
minutes
back,
so
I
want
to
consider
that
all
right.
Well.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
your
time
today.
Welcome
to
those
of
you
who
have
joined
us
for
the
first
time,
Dennis
wonderful,
to
have
you
and
I
guess:
you'll,
be
our
lead
from
here
on.