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From YouTube: Reparations Commission – August 21, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Community Reparations Commission.
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A
A
I
hope
everybody
has
had
a
great
month
since
the
last
time,
and
so
I'm
excited
to
be
here.
Dr
Mullins
will
not
be
here
today,
away
with
family
and
so
meeting.
A
A
D
A
A
E
A
A
So
we're
discussing
it
where
again
right
after
the
Legacy
neighborhoods
presentations.
A
So
we
have
it
added
for
15
minutes
right
after
the
Legacy
net
neighborhoods
presentations.
A
So
are
there
any
concerns
with
us?
Having
that
added
to
this
agenda.
A
So
I'll
ask
for
a
second
for
the
amendment.
A
All
right,
all
those
in
favor
all
right
all
right
are
those
opposed
all
right.
The
previous
approval
of
the
previous
minutes
from
June
12th
and
from
our
retreat.
D
D
All
right,
the
next
two
items
are
for
your
review
just
attached
the
project
timeline
as
a
reminder
and
release
a
review
item,
and
then
the
next
item
that
is
up
for
review
is
the
post
meeting
survey
and
again
the
reason
that
we
include
these
in
y'all's.
Oh
here
you
go
agenda.
Packets
and
I
have
a
couple
of
extra
agenda.
Packets.
D
Here
too,
is
so
that
everyone
is
able
to
see
all
the
responses
and
everyone
is
able
to
kind
of
be
on
the
same
page
in
regard
to
feedback
and
just
letting
y'all
know
that
that
we're
listening
and
learning
from
your
responses,
I
did
have
a
couple
of
responses.
Come
in
after
these
agendas
were
printed.
So
it
looks
like
on
the
meeting
the
post
meeting
survey.
We
have
14
responses,
but
I
think
I
got
a
two
extra,
so
in
my
email
after
tonight's
meeting
I'll
see
send
out
those
additional
responses.
D
All
right
so
do
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
move
into
the
Legacy
presentation
and
I'm
going
to
keep
time
on
my
phone
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
two-minute
warning
and
really
these
are
really
informal
conversations
to
learn
about
Legacy
neighborhoods,
but
we're
kind
of
tight
on
time,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
hear
from
everyone.
D
B
E
We're
gonna
talk
about
that
yeah.
E
I'll
address
you.
Thank
you.
A
A
We
also
have
the
ymi
culture
center,
which
is
located
in
Eagle
Eagle,
Market,
Street,
and
nowadays
people
want
to
say
that
the
why
my
culture
center
is
downtown.
Well,
why?
My
culture
center
is
East
End,
Valley,
Street
neighborhood,
it's
our
one
of
our
Hub
facilities
in
that
area,
Eastern
housed
almost
all
of
the
African-American
churches,
schools
and
black
owned
businesses.
A
We
are
also
a
part
of
the
ew
Pearson
collaborative
of
which
we
collaborated
with
Burton
Street
and
Shiloh,
and
the
three
neighborhoods
work
together
to
come
up
with
collaborative
efforts
that
were
going
on
and
found
common
interests
and
goals
in
our
neighborhoods
that
we
felt
we
could
work
together
and
bring
some
solutions
to.
We
now
have
become
a
hub
in
East
End
for
developers,
white
families
and
people.
A
We
have
partnered
with
the
preservation
Society
of
Asheville,
to
prevent
our
historic
buildings
from
being
torn
down
to
mention
Cappadocia,
which
is
one
of
our
oldest
historical
churches
that
was
about
to
be
demolished
by
developers.
Thanks
to
the
preservation,
Society
Cappadocia
church
has
been
saved.
We
appreciate
their
efforts
in
stepping
in
to
assist
us
in
saving
our
black
Legacy.
A
Unlike
the
Stevens
Lee
High
School,
of
which
my
parents
graduated
from
I
researched
to
find
out,
why
was
there
only
a
gym
remaining
for
Stevens
Lee
High
School
I've
been
told
by
my
elders
that
they
had
no
idea
the
school
was
about
to
be
torn
down.
I
was
able
to
locate
information
and
a
handwritten
notice
that
stated,
Stevens
Lee
will
be
torn
down,
so
the
black
community
was
not
aware
of
the
fact
that
the
school
would
be
demolished
and
all
that
would
be
left
was
a
gym.
But,
as
you
know,
that's
what's
standing
a
gym.
A
How
can
you
prevent
something
from
happening,
especially
actions
that
are
negative
when
you
don't
even
know
anything
about
it?
That
was
negative
to
our
community,
because
that
school
was
historic
and
black
Legacy
just
destroyed
as
if
it
had
no
relevance
at
all.
We're
diligently
working
to
bring
Easton
back
to
a
thriving
neighborhood
for
black
people
to
live
to
work,
be
entrepreneurs
and
have
ownership
in
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County.
A
A
How
Miss
Jeanette
had
some
of
the
best
fried
chicken
and
fish
you
ever
could
eat
if
you
walked
on
Eagle
Street,
get
it
on
a
piece
of
light
bread
with
a
sliced
tomato
and
some
lettuce
best
food
you
could
ever
eat
had
a
decaro
building
now
Leaf
Global
is
in
that
building
was
a
jumping,
juke
joint
for
black
people,
but
we
were
able
to
gather
and
have
a
good
time.
I
miss
Rosa
Walker
had
a
black
owned
beauty
salon
right
on
eager
Street
and
keep
in
mind.
A
It
was
all
black
owned
and
operated
businesses,
how
families
looked
out
for
each
other,
how
we
bonded
as
black
people
and
how
it's
all
being
divided
and
somewhat
destroyed.
I
vision
of
what
our
neighborhood
would
look
like
with
reparative
Justice
would
include
bringing
back
black
economic
and
generational
wealth.
A
Black
people
would
own
businesses
once
again,
our
seniors
could
come
to
be
live
and
age
in
place
in
their
own
homes.
Our
churches
would
be
the
foundation
of
our
Legacy
as
they
once
were
before
and
as
they
have
been
in
the
past,
black
people
wouldn't
could
take
ownership
for
their
recreational
facilities
instead
of
going
through
so
much
red
tape
and
procedures
just
to
utilize
them
and
having
a
difficult
time
trying
to
even
do
that,
we'll
be
able
to
set
up
our
own
programs
and
events
that
we
would
like
to
have.
A
Homes
that
are
affordable
will
be
built
and
we
could
use
land
that
is
right
in
our
own
areas.
To
mention
we
could
build
our
office
for
Eastern
Valley,
Street,
neighborhood
association,
not
rent,
somewhere
and
use
the
trunk
of
my
car.
A
neighborhood
association
will
be
able
to
reside
in
that
office
and
it
would
belong
to
us.
It
would
be
our
community
based
the
building,
but
we
could
all
gather
and
meet
whenever
we
need
to
we'll
be
able
to
offer
economic
stability
to
college
students
who
leave
and
never
return.
A
We
could
give
them
a
reason
to
return
back
home
and,
last
but
not
least,
they
would
be
excited
to
come
home.
We
could
potentially
sit
in
the
front
of
the
bus
once
again
and
not
be
pushed
to
the
back.
We
can
come
ahead
and
not
the
wagging
tail,
and
so
many
would
like
for
us
to
be,
and
we
can't
even
talk
about
the
harms
that
have
been
done.
A
A
B
B
B
F
F
Our
representatives
are
Norma
Baines,
you
wanna
come
stand
with
me
and
Bobby
Mays
I
think
is
out
of
town,
but
they
have
done
a
tremendous
job,
and
we
want
to
thank
you
for
what's
going
on
with
this,
but
I
think
we
keep
throwing
out
this
Legacy
Legacy,
neighborhood
and
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
better
understanding
of
just
what
that's
all
about
how
it
came
to
be,
and
what
we
have
is
what
we've
put
in
place
to
try
to
help
us
going
forward,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
today
is
this
little
bit
of
background
in
the
history
of
the
Legacy
neighborhoods
Coalition
I'm,
not
sure
how
we
got
here
to
be
part
of
this
meeting.
F
F
In
February,
2017
Buncombe
County
commissions
go
to
seven
to
zero,
to
approve
the
Isaac
Coleman
economic
Community
investment
Grant
a
lot
of
1.5
million
dollars
over
three
years
and
created
a
learning
collaborative
for
great
grantees
to
build
relationships
and
capacities
across
efforts.
The
goal
of
the
grant
is
to
rebuild
the
health
set
safety
and
well-being
of
our
communities
through
targeted
investments
in
Community
Driven
organizations.
That's
his
word
that
are
currently
working
toward
eliminating
racial
disparities
and
to
Champion
ethical
opportunities.
F
Recent
data
has
proven
that
traditional
and
institutional
efforts
have
not
decreased
racial
disparities
in
health,
education,
housing
and
economic
opportunities.
Therefore,
community-led
strategies
should
not
only
be
continued
but
Amplified
with
empathical
priority
position
and
resources
in
27
17
opportunity
zones
were
created.
That
was
a
national
program
allowing
for
certain
investments
in
lower
income
areas
to
have
tax
advantages
and
guess
whose
communities
were
made
part
of
that
all
of
the
black
communities
Silo
and
all
of
us
as
private
shallow,
be
one
of
those
I
don't
know.
F
But
anyway,
we
are
we're
under
that
that
that's
over
hanging
over
our
head,
and
so,
but
when
we
start
looking
at
that,
we
came
together
under
and
the
ew
Pearson
was
mentioned,
and
all
of
us
that
were
working
on
the
size
of
Coleman,
the
Legacy
neighborhood
Coalition
is
comprised
of
neighborhoods
that
have
historically
faced
racially
discriminatory
practices,
including
urban
renewal
and
red
vine.
These
neighborhoods
they
have
faced
current
displacement
due
to
naturally
rate
levels
of
justification
and
an
absence
of
local
government
employment,
community-led,
anti-anti
displacement
strategies
in
policies
and
practices.
F
Neighborhood
Coalition
would
like
to
invite
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
to
continue
to
enhance
our
our
and
enhance
our
relationships
through
the
formalization
of
a
legacy,
neighborhood
Commission
that
will
allow
us
to
work
collectively
and
strategically
toward
standard
goals
of
Equitable
communities,
and
so
that's
what
what
this
was
about
tonight
to
keep
us
in
something
and
help
us
to
stay
in
place.
We've
got
a
great
platform
of
other
neighbors
and
neighborhood
Coalition,
but
that
somehow
that's
got
to
be
maintained,
and
so
because
of
that
we
are
now
and
I.
F
Fish
in
that
county
have
been
provided
with
this
request
that
the
Legacy
neighborhood
Coalition
be
set
up
as
a
neighborhood
Legacy
neighborhood
commission
lnc,
with
all
the
things
that's
in
place
at
the
city
council,
the
Muslim
counting
positions
have
authority
to
establish
the
disaster
boards
and
commissions
so
that
the
structure
is
in
place
and
now
we're
saying
we
want
to
be
part
of
that,
so
that
that
request
is
already
in
the
hands
of
our
our
City
and
County
government
and
so
and
now
get
back
to
the
shower.
I
want
to
get
that
in.
F
F
We
have
several
annual
days,
but
this
is
called
a
historic
day
and
it's
I
think
most
people
know
by
now.
We
were
not
able
to
be
awarded
the
Isaac
Coleman
Grant
again
this
time.
Unfortunately,
we
did
get
two
two
rounds
of
funding.
So
now
we
are
raising
funds,
and
this
is
a
huge
sponsorship
program
that
we
put
it
in
place
to
raise
funds
to
keep
our
programs
going.
But
if.
F
A
Everything
is
on
the
web
website.
We
are
having
a
Gala
at
the
DoubleTree
in
Hendersonville
on
Hendersonville
Road,
which
is
on
the
7th
that
is.
The
third
season
starts
at
6
30
to
9
30.,
so
we're
going
to
become
where
we
are
open.
Let
me
to
be
a
salad
auction
there
and
entertainment
and,
of
course,
just
to
sit.
B
A
Of
September,
we
will
celebrating
our
history
today
at
the
Lynnwood
Prop
Shop
complex,
and
that
will
be
from
one
to
four
pm
also
with
each
event.
If
you
would
like
to
take
the
tour,
we
will
have
the
tool
that
you
can
that's
shine
on
shallow,
so
we
take
you
to
about
12
historical
sites
in
shallow,
and
we
would
like
to
to
tell
you
about
them
and
see
the
markets
there.
Also
on
Sunday
one
of
our
partners,
beer
beer
would
also
be
doing
a
cookout,
and
that
is
from
four
to
Saturday.
A
F
My
baby,
we
you're
going
to
be
hearing
some
big
things
that
I'm
really
kind
of
hanging
on
to
that
until
we
get
all
the
plans
in
place,
but
we
are
bringing
our
young
people
on
board
and
she
will
have
a
major
major
part
to
play
in
what
we're
getting
ready
to
put
out
about
the
about
the
shadow
program.
Thank
you,
though,.
H
H
Name
is
Shaniqua
Samuel
I
am
the
oldest
granddaughter
of
Moses
Samuel,
who
was
the
president
before
Miss,
Sophie
and
so
I'm
stepping
into
his
role
a
little
at
a
time.
I
helped
coordinate
the
Shiloh
community
garden
and
I'm
I.
Let
Miss
Sophie
tell
my
new
position
whenever
she's
ready
for
that,
but
I.
Also,
you
may
have
seen
me
on
Carolina
Kitchen
I
own
change,
your
palette.
It's
a
nutrition
program
for
people
with
high
risk
for
tax
refugees
and
her
attention.
A
A
North
Side
Mr
Bernard
only
a
front
Eastchester
Away
part
of
East
Chestnut
wanna.
I
B
I
B
J
And
here
to
represent
the
South
Side,
not
over
the
south
side
of
the
United
but
sort
of
all
of
the
south
side.
If
you
don't
want
to
introduce
yourself.
N
J
I
have
my
own
Africa
hat
today,
and
one
of
the
things
about
this
Africa
head
I
went
to
Africa
about
five
years
ago
and
when
I
came
back,
I
said
to
myself:
I
have
no
reason
to
complain,
and
then
the
reparation
process
started
and.
J
I
can
imagine
the
sleepless
nights
that
you
spent,
even
though
you're
not
here,
trying
to
keep
us
in
line
and
trying
to
keep
us
on
task
to
the
river
reparation
members.
Thank
you
for
your
commitment
to
stated
process
and
whatever,
40
years
ago,
I
arrived
in
Nashville
about
to
get
married
and
start
a
family.
J
I
hear
someone
the
other
day
complained
that
it
was
too
hot
in
here
and
I
got
to
thinking
about
how
about
a
90
degree,
90
degree
day,
picking
cotton,
cucumbers,
beans,
all
of
those
vegetables.
How
would
you
have
felt
then
our
ancestors,
a
lot
of
them
were
the
first
jobs
they
had
when
it
came
to
this
area
was
picking
beans.
J
J
J
L
J
B
J
J
J
J
J
P
J
Us
the
reparation
process,
that's
because
she's
walking
around
as
a
child
do
not
think
that
she's
not
listening
to
what
we
say.
She
is
she's.
Listening
to
every
word
that
we
say
well
back
at
you
reparations
Harris
Center,
but
I
just
want
to
close
by
saying
as
Jane
Brad
James
Brown
saying
we
don't
want
you
to
give
us
nothing,
just
open
up
the
door
and
we'll
get
it
ourselves.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
The
South
Side
Community,
yes,
okay,
Roy,
it's
a
question
for
the
Southside
Community,
so
and
I'm
learning
as
I
go.
How?
Where
does
the
South
Side
start
and
what
is
the
South
Side
in
oh.
J
One
of
you:
listen
if
you
listen
to
Mr
hardy
Priscilla
you,
the
South
Side
in
my
opinion,
started,
hear
you
and
Biltmore
Avenue
and
it
went
all
the
way
down
to
the
river
and
now
we're
carved
up
in
just
a
little
piece
of
it,
which
we
call
the
South
Side
United
Community,
but
all
of
that
was
Southside
because
nobody
else
would
have
lived
down
there.
Nobody
else
want
to
be
there,
and
so
now
we
have
the
South
slope,
West
End
Association
and
the
South
Ritz
broad
neighborhood.
J
B
A
Our
next
Community
Legacy
neighborhood,
this
presentation
is
shop,
town,
Rasheeda,
McDaniels,
Thomas,
Priestess.
A
N
Good
evening,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
us.
We
are
excited
to
share
about
the
Stumptown
Community
this
evening.
If
there
are
any
stumped
Town
residents
that
are
here
that
would
like
to
stand
or
raise
your
hand
or
come
up
and
stand
with
us.
Please
do
is
Dixon
back
there.
N
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
to
all
the
Legacy
communities
that
have
spoken
so
far
and
I'm
sharing
your
stories
and
what
you
are
doing.
We
appreciate
you
and
appreciate
the
work
that
you
are
all
our
continuing
to
do
here
in
Asheville
to
you
know,
to
help
remind
us
and
to
keep
reminding
us
of
where
black
Asheville
has
been,
what
it's
been
through
and
where
and
where
we're
going
so
tonight
we
will
share
some
history
and
just
some
other
information
and
some
future
information
about
Stumptown.
Q
Hey
good
evening,
Thomas
preacher,
representation
of
Stumptown,
so
we're
just
gonna
share
a
timeline,
and
you
can
also
find
it
on
the
city
website
as
well
for
the
community
of
Stumptown.
Q
First
off
we
have
around
1880
30
acre
track
in
Asheville,
near
Riverside,
Cemetery
was
cleared
for
black
resident
use,
called
Stumptown.
The
area
attracted
many
black
families
who
came
to
Asheville
in
search
of
work.
They
formed
a
dynamic
social
network
and
created
a
good,
respectful
community
of
homes,
families,
neighbors
and
Friends.
N
Parent
residents
found
employment
in
Riverside
Cemetery
at
near
bar
at
nearby
Battery
Park
Hotel,
or
with
affluent
wife
on
Whopper
Avenue
by
the
1920s
stomp
towns.
Population
exceeded
200
families.
Although
there
was
much
poverty,
poverty
residents
had,
Treasures
money
could
not
buy
Pride
dignity
and
self-respect,
and
most
of
all,
love.
Q
Urban
renewal
came
as
a
total
surprise
to
us.
We
heard
bits
and
pieces
about
a
new
program
that
promised
better
living
conditions
and
then
remembers
Miss
Dorothy,
where
one
day
my
parents
got
a
letter
warning
them
that
they
had
only
a
few
months
to
find
a
new
home.
Other
residents
got
similar
letters.
Q
N
N
Black
homeowners
were
preventing
access
to
resources
for
upkeep
and
white
landlords
allowed
properties
to
fall
into
despair.
During
this
time
period,
some
black
families
moved
from
some
town
and
Hill
Street
into
Hillcrest
Apartments
rental
units
open
by
the
Asheville
Housing
Authority
in
1959,
accessible
only
by
a
bridge
over
the
new
Expressway.
Q
Sometime
residents
experience
root
should
shook
repeatedly
over
the
next
two
decades,
as
our
homes
were
bulldozed
to
the
ground
one
by
one
and
the
social
order
was
broken
by
the
early
1970s
little
was
left,
scattered,
hurt
bitter
discouraged.
We
we
stroke
to
build
new
hopes
in
spite
of
the
devastation.
The
strong
values
of
our
old
Community
are
visible
in
the
successful
lives
of
our
young
people.
Stumptown
lives
on
through
them.
N
The
city
of
Asheville
acquired
property
for
the
project
between
during
the
1970s
over
80
families
lost
their
homes
because
I
combined
federal
grants
from
programs,
including
model
cities,
the
land
and
water
conservation
fund
and
Housing
and
Urban
renewal
development
HUD
to
pay
for
the
million
dollar
plan.
The
groundbreaking
was
held
in
1977
and
the
center
was
dedicated
in
1978.
Q
Early
residents
provided
the
labor
to
build
the
Riverside
Cemetery
worked
as
domestic
in
white
owned
Montford
houses
and
in-service
jobs,
and
hotels
and
restaurants.
Black
residents
today
still
called
their
neighborhood
Stumptown,
though
urban
renewal
and
gentrification
have
thoroughly
eroded
what
was
once
a
thriving
black
community.
N
Q
Q
Which
put
a
hold
on
selling
any
city-owned
properties
that
came
from
urban
renewal
until
a
reparation
commission
is
formed
and
policies
are
put
in
place.
The
context
of
these
resolutions.
We
believe
that
the
Montford
Park
players,
Robertson
Amber
theater
lease
renewal
process
should
be
paused
or
at
least
to
be
renewed
for
no
more
than
a
year
pending
recommendation
from
the
reparations
committee
commission
about
this
and
other
city-owned
properties
in
Stumptown.
Q
This
is
not
an
appropriate
point
in
the
reparation
process
for
the
city
to
be
locked
into
a
long-term
lease
agreement
on
a
property
acquired
during
urban
renewal.
The
commission
and
impacted
the
commission
and
impact
that
black
families
should
have
to
propose
ways
to
leverage
the
property
to
benefit
black.
The
spirit
of
resolution
20-128
March
2022.
N
Since
there
is
no
Stumptown
neighborhood
reparative
Justice
would
be
for
the
city
of
Asheville
to
recognize
the
harm
caused
by
urban
renewal
in
the
city
of
Asheville
and
give
some
Town
Legacy
Community
members
the
option
to
decide
what
happens
with
sitting
on
land
in
Stumptown.
With
the
support
of
the
reparations
committee,
the
Hazel
Robinson
Amphitheater
in
the
22
city-owned
properties.
B
Q
And
we
had
a
slideshow
that
we
wasn't
able
to
get
together
for
you
all
tonight,
but
we
can
share
those
with
Miss
Edwards
to
share
with
you
all
later
and
for
that
October
meeting
we
are
meeting
October
the
21st
from
3
to
6
at
the
Munford
Center.
Q
D
Yes,
please
do
share
your
presentation
and
then,
if
you
had
slides
that
you're
going
to
share,
please
do
share
that
you're
happy
with
me,
so
we
can
enter
it
into
the
record.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
we
don't
miss
anything
shared
a
lot
of
details
that
goes
for
everyone
that
presented,
if
you
had
a
patient
you're
reading
from
that,
you
can
make
a
copy
and
share
with
me.
I
would
love
to
have
that,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
put
it
in
our
meeting
minutes.
A
So
now
we
will
have
the
Asheville
Housing
Authority
Miss
Monique
Pierre,
hey
how
you
doing
welcome.
Thank
you.
B
O
Good
evening,
everyone
don't
worry,
I'm
not
going
to
stand
up
here
by
myself,
and
those
of
you
who
know
who
you
are
please
come,
including
our
commissioner,
my
colleagues
and
if
there
are
any
residents
of
the
Housing
Authority
city
of
Asheville,
please
feel
free
to
come.
I
don't
mean
to
put
anybody
on
the
spot,
but
I
think
it's
very
important.
O
That
letter
came
to
my
house
too.
Several
thousands
of
miles
away
or
a
few
thousand
miles
away
and
I
understand
that
we
all
have
a
collective
impact
to
make
and
when
I
took
on
the
role
of
the
new
president
and
CEO
of
the
Housing
Authority
I
took
it
very
sincerely
and
I
do
understand.
Housing
and
I
thought
well
a
roof
over
our
head.
That's
something
that
we
can
all
relate
to,
and
so
I
would
just
like
to
talk
a
little
bit.
O
Oh
first,
let
me
just
also
beg
your
forgiveness
if
I,
if
I
say
something
that
maybe
seem,
as
maybe
offensive
or
out
of
keeping
with
what
you
have
gone
through.
Already,
please
understand
as
being
new
to
the
party,
you
may
have
already
danced
to
a
tune.
I
want
to
sing
so
but
I'm
going
to
speak
from
the
heart.
O
So
the
first
question
that
was
posed
to
us
is:
are
there
any
current
planning
efforts
underway
in
your
neighborhood
or
Community
well
having
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
Asheville
under
my
leadership
and
the
leadership
of
our
fantastic
board,
of
which
Mr
Harris
is
a
member
and
I
understand?
Redevelopment
housing
is
something
that
touches
every
single
life
in
this
room.
Housing
authorities
were
developed
and
created
in
the
late
30s
early
40s,
and
they
were
built
in
order
to
be
in
up
and
out
to
help
for
the
economic
advancement
of
certain
people
oftentimes.
O
They
were
built
in
some
communities
as
veteran
housing
for
Veterans
or
wife
or
Widow
of
a
veteran
or
the
families
of
veterans
and
oftentimes.
They
were
also
built
as
a
place
to
put
people
when
their
neighborhoods
were
torn
down.
They
were
hyper,
segregated,
oftentimes,
isolated
as
EX,
for
example,
Hillcrest,
as,
as
you
previously
heard,
isolated
by
just
one
way
in
One,
Way
Out.
Well,
over
the
last
40
years,
housing
has
slowly
begun
to
change.
We've
gone
through
empowerment
zones,
promise
zones
every
type
of
Zone.
O
You
can
think
of
choice,
neighborhoods
and
there's
a
great
movement
of
Redevelopment
and
what
comes
with
that
are
the
resources.
So
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
Asheville
is
looking
at
all
of
the
resources
that
come
into
this
community
that
have
something
to
do
with
housing
and
how
they
touch
the
work
that
we
do
from
this
Housing
and
Urban
Development.
O
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
when
those
resources
are
available,
that
they're
able
to
be
applied
for
Quality
housing
for
redeveloped
communities,
meaning
that
we
will
at
some
point
look
for
how
do
we
redevelop
the
housing
in
conjunction
with
other
city
and
county
efforts?
It
can't
happen
a
lot
we
have
to
have
input
from
the
community.
O
I
was
in
a
meeting
about
Transportation
the
other
day
and
the
reconfiguration
of
Pat,
Avenue
and
I
understand
the
intersection
between
transportation
and
housing
and
how
vital
it
is
that
those
things
are
coordinated
when
being
redesigned
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
said
when
I
came
to
the
table
and
understanding
that
that
critical
Nexus
was
well.
Are
there
going
to
be
people
employed
or
companies
that
are
employed
that
are
living
in
the
communities
where
the
Redevelopment
is
happening,
where
the
new
highways
are
going
in?
O
I
understand
that
there
are
opportunities
for
education
through
the
Eddington
Center
through
our
pods
program
through
chosen
pods
I.
Should
say
and
pods
program
through
our
family
self-sufficiency
program
that
Mr
Priester
Works
under
with
Miss
Mrs,
Jackson
and
I,
understand
that
we
have,
if
I
pay
over
millions
or
well
millions
of
dollars
every
year
in
rent
to
landlords
and
I,
say
to
you
where's
the
ownership.
The
ownership
is
in
the
hands
of
the
landlords
that
I
pay
for
people
to
be
able
to
live
in
their
properties.
O
So
when
I
think
about
our
commitment
to
Redevelopment
I
think
about
home
ownership,
I
think
about
how
do
we
use
the
vouchers
that
come
into
our
program
that
pay
those
landlords
and
use
them
through
for
our
home
ownership
program?
That
Mr
Robinson
runs
where
that
voucher
can
be
used
to
help
pay
for
your
mortgage
every
month
for
15
years
currently,
and
we
just
requested
a
voucher
through
HUD
for
it
to
be
I,
think
20
years
20
to
30
years
so
30
years,
30
years.
O
These
are
programs
that
are
available
I,
don't
know
why
they
can't
be
duplicated,
okay
and
so
we're
also
currently
pursuing
Redevelopment
and
looking
at
the
quality
of
the
housing
stock
that
we
currently
have.
O
So
we
have
d
review
community
and
do
you
review
they've
begun
a
process
called
reimagine
diver
view,
but
what
I
think
is
that
we
have
to
look
deeper
at
the
resources
available,
and
so
we
are
interested
in
pursuing
Choice
neighborhoods
grants,
both
planning
and
implementation,
we're
looking
for
ways
to
bring
more
Community
Partners
to
the
table
when
we
talk
about
Redevelopment
and
what
it
can
look
like,
what
it
should
look
like
and
what
the
community
wants
it
to
look
like,
and
that
goes
for
all
of
our
communities.
That's
pisk
of
you!
That's
Hillcrest!
O
O
Our
hopes
are
to
add
partners
and
shift
gears
to
a
choice,
neighborhoods
reimagining
initiative
and
also
an
implementation
Grant,
which
it
comes
with
a
planning
Grant
which
we
we
intend
to
pursue
and
then
also
look
for
ways
to
get
to
the
implementation.
Grant,
and
so
it
usually
is
about
a
year
or
a
year
and
a
half
process
of
planning
before
you
get
to
the
next
implementation,
Grant
application.
O
The
second
question:
what
are
the
stories
that
we
need
to
know
about
our
neighborhoods?
Well,
I
can't
tell
you
all
of
those
stories
yet,
but
I'm
learning
every
day
when
I'm
walking
and
talking
with
members
of
the
community
and
I'm
understanding
their
lived
experience,
so
I
won't
dare
try
to
tell
any
steps
stories
today.
O
One
of
the
things
that
it
also
asked
was
share
your
vision
and
how
you
would
describe
your
neighborhood,
Legacy
or
excuse
me
share
your
vision
of
what
your
community
would
look
like
with
reparative
Justice.
This
is
where
I
excel
imagination.
O
So,
first
of
all,
we've
talked
you've
heard
everybody
talk
about
housing
and
Home
Ownership
home
ownership
is
possible,
it's
possible
to
design
housing
and
build
it,
and
it
doesn't
have
to
cost
a
million
dollars
per
house
or
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
house.
There
are
ways
to
design
and
innovate
around
development
that
will
allow
us
to
build
the
houses
that
people
can
afford
and
build
them
with
modern
means,
and
you
utilizing
great
economic
as
well
as
environmental
concerns.
So
we
have
environmental
justice
to
be
concerned
with
as
well.
O
Oftentimes
you'll
hear
folks
talk
about
home
ownership
with
you
know:
40
years,
affordability,
30
years,
affordability,
I,
think
that
when
it
comes
to
reparations
and
when
it
comes
to
home
ownership,
there
shouldn't
be
any
strings
attached.
I
should
be
able
to
build
a
house
sell
you,
the
house,
and
you
do
with
what
you
will,
that
is
real
autonomy,
the
ability
to
move
as
if
you
just
bought
it
fee,
simple
and
not
tied
to
a
trust
or
land
trust
which
no
offense
to
the
land
trust.
Folks,
oh
I
have
a
two-minute
warning.
O
She
didn't
tell
me
that
okay,
so
I
also
believe
that
there
should
be
protected
class
benefits
that
should
flow
through
lending
institutions.
I've
seen
examples
where
Linda
lenders
who
want
to
do
business
with
city,
state
or
Municipal
local
government
have
to
offer
through
the
community
reinvestment
act
dollars
or
in
other
ways
they
have
to
offer
lessened
criteria.
O
So,
instead
of
screening
people
out
and
saying
well
you're,
you
can't
get
a
mortgage
because
you're
more
your
credit
score
is
only
600
and
you
should
you
need
620,
and
it's
going
to
take
you
three
years
to
get
to
620..
You
know
screen
look
for
ways
to
screen
people
in
like
lowering
some
of
the
thresholds
for
entry,
that
oftentimes
have
barred
us
from
actual
ownership.
O
We
have
the
Eddington
Center
and
we're
looking
for
ways
to
strengthen
that
developing,
potentially
a
One-Stop
shop,
so
that
the
the
initiatives
that
we
are
going
to
be
pursuing
within
the
Housing
Authority,
that
there
are
resources
for
residents,
so
that
I
don't
tell
you
well,
you
have
to
have
a
job
I
say:
here's
a
One-Stop
shop,
Economic
Development
Center,
where
you
can
come
and
learn
about
ownership,
starting
a
business
Etc
we're
also
looking
at
what
harms
should
be
addressed
when
I
think
about
the
economic
harms,
I,
think
about
psychological
harms,
there's
a
psychological
harm
to
poverty
and
for
that
people
experience
communally,
there's
a
book
that
I,
like
called
my
grandmother's
hands,
and
it
talks
about
generational
harm
and
how
your
body
holds
a
memory.
O
I
think
there's
another
book,
The
Body
holds
a
memory
and
our
bodies
and
our
our
mental
health
need
to
be
addressed.
At
the
same
time,
we
need
resources
that
allow
folks
the
opportunity
to
grow
together
and
to
learn
how
to
overcome
the
pain.
There
is
harm
that
comes
when
you
are
harmed
that
is
deeper
than
just
a
a
new
home.
I
also
met
when
I
was
a
when
I
was
a
teenager.
I
met
a
woman,
an
African-American
woman
who
had
built
her
own
hotel.
O
She
had
like
a
franchise
through,
like
I,
think
Clarion,
Hotel
or
one
of
those
hotels
and
I
was
astonished
and
I
just
kept
picking.
Picking
at
her
like
tell
me,
how
did
you
do
it?
What
did
you
do?
What
is
that,
if
you're
living
in
an
area
like
Asheville,
then
you
need
a
hotel?
If
you
want
to
be
part
of
the
economic
fabric,
you
need
also
opportunities
when
they
talk
about
permanent
sources
of
funding
and
I
know
I'm
at
my
two
minutes,
but
I'm
gonna
keep
going
when
it
talks
about
permanent
sources
of
funding.
O
O
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
leaving
anything
out
that
we're
missing
we're,
not
understanding.
I
know
that
I
have
a
dynamic
staff
and
they
have
made
sure
that
our
communities
are
not
forgotten.
But
if
there's
something
that
we
need
to
do
and
you're
concerned,
then
you
need
to
reach
out
to
me.
My
email
is
m.
Pierre
p-I-e-r-r-e.
O
And
lastly,
what
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
the
Housing
Authority
wields
a
lot
of
resources
and
a
lot
of
folks
don't
even
understand.
If
you'd
like
to
learn
more
about
what
we
do
reach
out
to
me.
We
have
monthly
commission
meetings.
Our
next
commission
meeting
is
going
to
be
held
at
Altamonte
apartments
on
the
23rd
starting
at
six
o'clock.
We
have
a
work
session,
starting
at
five
o'clock.
O
B
O
Absolutely
not
what
we
have
some
dreams
and
hopes,
and
we
want
to
make
a
permanent
investment
in
that
Center,
and
so
we're
looking
at
ways
to
enhance
it
to
there
will
be
changes.
I
can't
deny
that
there
are
some
spaces
that
are
poorly
used
or
underutilized,
there's
Renovations
that
need
to
take
place
once
again
and
we're
willing
to
do
the
work
to
make
sure
that
that
happens.
We're
working
with
folks,
we
have
the
public
schools
are
there.
O
We
have
other
folks
that
are
there
and
it
may
be
time
for
some
changes,
but
we're
willing
to
do
the
hard
work
and
have
the
hard
conversations.
But
what
we
can
commit
to
is
that
our
children
over
133
children
was
it
a
week
a
week
attended
the
summer
program,
133
children
a
week
attended
that
summer
program
during
the
school
year
children
attend
Head
Start
at
the
Burton
center
right
behind
it.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
community
Farm
we're
not
going
anywhere.
O
A
You
I.
E
E
O
Just
here
take
a
walk
with
me:
let's
talk,
let's
find
out
what
we
can
do
and
I
made
a
commitment,
I
work
in
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
for
26
years,
I
started
out
as
what's
called
a
resident
initiatives
coordinator
and
over
the
last
26
years.
I
have
worked
very
very
hard
to
learn
everything
that
I
possibly
could
learn
and
there's
two
things
I
wanted
ever
since
I
was
very
young.
When
our
house
was
taken,
my
father
became
a
housing
commissioner.
O
He
ended
up
getting
civically
involved,
and
so
what
that
meant
to
me
was
all
of
those
commission.
Packets
would
come
to
our
house
and
I'm
nosy,
so
I'm
right
there
trying
to
find
out
what
does
it
say,
Dad
and
he
would
let
me
come
sometimes
to
national
conferences
and
take
me
and
when
I
go
around
and
I'm
talking
to
the
residents,
I,
say
I'm
here
now
and
there's
nothing
they
can
do
and
I
really
do
believe
what
I
say
and
I
do
walk
what
I
talk
and
what
I
ask
all
my
residences.
G
Monique
with
the
changes
to
the
center
benefit,
the.
O
Residents
in
that
Community,
absolutely
as
a
matter
of
fact,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
really
interested
in
I'm
telling
you
guys
stuff
that
you,
you
know,
keep
it
a
secret
right.
It's
being
recorded
one
of
the
things
that
we're
very
interested
in.
O
I
want
our
residents
to
also
understand
that
before
there
was
really
no
requirement,
maybe
years
ago
there
was,
but
there's
no
requirement,
and
we
want
to
provide
you
with
a
higher
expectation.
I
have
a
higher
expectation
for
you.
I
know
that
you
can
get
a
job.
I
know
that
you
can
get
your
education
I
know
you
can
pursue
ownership
of
whatever
business
you're
interested
in
and
so
to
answer
your
question.
O
A
So,
let's
follow
me:
Amendment
agenda
is
our
Round
Table
conversations.
A
D
So
if
you
look
at
page
16,
you
can
see
that
where
we
picked
up
the
timeline
is
an
activity
number
five
January
2023,
where
we
were
proposing
to
reaffirm
the
resolution
to
find
reparations
and
then,
as
you
move
further
along
from
Activity
six
and
seven
that's
sort
of
where
we
are
now
January
to
August.
Ifa
facilitators
continue
to
lead
their
work
groups
in
the
development
organization
of
recommendations
and
meet
with
the
CRC
monthly
and
meet
with
the
project
manager
bi-monthly,
and
this
is
outdated.
D
We
had
all
recommendations
submitted
for
consideration
by
May
31st,
but
of
course
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
flexible,
so
we've
made
some
use
changes
for
flexibility
as
we
move
into
activity.
Seven
I'm,
looking
at
September
to
December
I,
think
facilitators
would
continue
to
work
on
recommendations
with
commission
members
post
meetings
with
the
intention
of
opening
up
the
process
to
Commitment
Community
members
to
list
and
observe
participate.
Additionally
city
and
county
and
CRC
members
will
support
partnership
events,
and
so
that
has
been
you
know,
continuing
to
happen
throughout
the
year.
D
The
project
manager
will
create
a
feedback
process
for
reviewing
the
legal
backing
and
guidance
to
create
highly
feasible
recommendations
to
guide
prioritization
and
then
that
review
period
would
be
from
August
11th
to
September
15th,
so
that
IFA
leads
and
commission
members
can
Implement
what
they
heard
at
The.
Retreat
refine
recommendations,
work
on
them,
some
more
and
hear
from
our
staff
and
subject
matter
experts
to
weigh
in
on
those
recommendations.
D
So
as
we
move
into
activity,
nine,
which
is
where
we'll
be
starting
next
month,
starting
that
voting
process
to
start
to
present
the
actual
draft
recommendation
proposals
and
begin
to
vote
on
them.
As
a
group,
and
this
commission
has
already
passed
several
recommendations,
so
we're
thinking
that
this
process
will
mirror
that
the
recommendations
that
have
been
passed
previously
and
while
all
of
that
is
happening,
my
firm
is
going
to
be
helping
to
start.
Writing
that.
D
That
narrative
report
start
writing
that
final
report
and
making
sure
that
we're
hearing
from
everyone
making
sure
that
we're
hearing
from
everyone
involved,
including
our
data
team,
community
members
and
feedback.
So
we
are
starting
to
write
that
final
report
simultaneously,
as
the
recommendations
are
coming
in
and
then
looking
at
2024
activity
number
10
submitting
the
written
report
project
photo.
The
recommendations
will
be
passed
by
the
CRC
officially
compiled
and
presented
to
the
governing
bodies
and
shared
with
the
wider
public.
D
Of
course,
the
content
of
what
those
recommendation
proposals
will
look
like
we
don't
know
right
now.
There
are
a
draft
recommendations
included
in
your
packet
and
there
are.
They
were
also
presented
to
the
group
as
a
as
a
whole
at
The
Retreat.
So
at
the
retreat,
IFA
has
got
an
opportunity
to
look
at
recommendations
speak
with
one
another
talk
to
one
another.
So
we
don't
know
what
that's
going
to
look
like
just.
P
D
We
we
know
that
it's
going
to
be
compiled,
presented
to
City
and
County
government
and
then
so
as
we
move
into
project
FAQs.
Some
of
the
frequently
asked
questions
that
continue
to
sort
of
come
up
when
we're
we're
talking
about.
How
do
we
create
these
recommendations?
And
what
does
the
process
look
like?
D
So
recommendations
should
be
fairly
Broad
and
not
necessarily
connected
with
any
particular
group
or
organization
or
existing
initiative
that
serves
a
private
interest
so
as
to
remove
any
potential
conflict
of
interest
ultimately
and
to
serve
the
interests
of
The
Wider
African-American
community
in
Asheville
Buncombe
County.
We
also
wanted
to
highlight
that
the
projects
that
benefit
individual
persons
or
benefits
businesses
are
not
eligible.
There
is
a
federal
law
called
the
emoluments
Clause
that
prohibits
governments
from
contributing
tax
dollars
to
individual
benefit
and
the
reason
that
I
mention
that
is
because
the
reparation
dollars
are
majority.
D
You
know
tax
tax
dollars
also
the
issue
of
the
temporary
hold
for
data
requests,
which
we
did
Implement
back
in
June,
really
helped
us
to
make
progress
and
make
leeway
in
terms
of
getting
more
data
requests
fulfilled
and
implemented.
I've
been
in
conversations
with
the
data
team
recently,
where
we've
learned
that
they
have
been
actually
able
to
fulfill
those
requests
so
that
hold
can
now
be
lifted.
It
really
was
an
informal
hold.
It
really
was
just
to
help
us
from
a
project
management
standpoint
to
go
through
go
through
those
existing
requests.
D
Yeah
Community
engagement
messaging
will
be
key.
We
are
planning
to
host
a
community
Summit
in
the
fall
to
gain
buy-in
and
feedback
on
the
recommendations.
There's
an
updated,
anticipated
budget
consideration.
We
now
know
that
there's
about
5.6
million
dollars
allocated
from
the
city
and
the
county.
Now,
because
after
July
1st,
there
was
additional
funding
allocated
due
to
the
passing
of
the
city
and
county
budgets.
So
now
that
we
have
more
to
work
with,
which
is
great
and
then
some
CRC
recommendations
may
be
considered
for
funding
in
upcoming
County
budgets.
D
These
are
just
some
questions
that
I
still
had
and
I
know
that
you
guys
probably
still
have
what's
the
anticipated
time
frame,
that
projects
will
be
implemented
once
approved
to
be
determined
and
then
what
is
that
accountability
structure
for
implementing
the
recommendations
once
the
commission
term
is
complete
to
be
determined?
So
these
are
things
that
should
be
determined
and
will
be
determined
by
this
group.
However,
you
deem
you
know
to
to
decide
on
that
next
steps.
So
the
next
slide
says
next
steps.
D
The
isas
are
going
to
be
incorporating
feedback
from
The
Retreat,
the
city
county,
subject
matter
experts,
the
budget
team
and
members
of
the
legal
team
will
review
those
draft
recommendations
for
feasibility
under
local
government
purview
and
help
to
provide
some
estimated
costs
as
well,
and
really
these
are
just
kind
of
guidelines
and
and
suggestions
for
how
to
present
your
recommendations
when
you're
presenting
them
to
the
commission
and
then
again
that
review
period
is
from
August
11th
to
September
15th
and
then
the
initial
time
period
that
we're
going
to
begin
to
present
those
recommendations.
D
And
again
this
group
can
decide
how
that's
done.
You
know
some
IFA
groups
are
a
little
bit,
I
will
say
further
along
or
they
might
have
more
fully
formed
or
might
have
a
really
high
priority
recommendation
that
they
really
want
to
get
in
front
of
the
group
immediately,
while
other
groups
might
want
to
wait
a
little
bit
longer
or
have
some
more
time
to
develop
it
a
bit
and
to
get
that
buy-in.
D
So
that's
why,
if
you
go
to
the
next
page,
that's
why
we
pretty
much
have
staggered
it
out
and
when
it
comes
to
agenda
setting,
you
know,
I'm,
definitely
open
to
commission
members
being
a
part
of
agenda
setting
the
chair
and
vice
chair
are
a
part
of
that
process.
So
so
that's
pretty
much
where
we're
at.
We
want
to
just
make
sure
that
we're
using
the
best
use
of
your
time-
and
you
know
these-
these
sort
of
meeting
agendas
are
flexible,
but
in
terms
of
project
management,
it
really
is
gonna.
B
K
Always
felt
that
that
that
timeline
imposed,
let
me
rephrase
that
that
the
timeline
is
imposed
rather
than
achieved.
K
It
feels
like
the
timeline
somebody
said:
okay
you'll
be
finished
at
this
date
that
didn't
take
into
consideration
whether
or
not
we
would
actually
be
at
a
point
that
we
had
accomplished
what
we
believe
to
be
a
reasonable
goal,
and
so
therefore
I,
don't
I
think
the
timeline.
If
it
stays
hard
and
fast,
that's
not
fair,
we
need
it.
May
it
may
be
a
six
months.
A
Timelines,
it
makes
the
ifas
work
towards
what
we
should
be
doing
in
our
ifas
we're
meeting
bi-monthly.
So
therefore,
we
can
possibly
get
done.
What
we
need
to
get
done
and
not
to
extend
a
lot
of
us
were
told
that
this
would
be
a
time
frame
that
we
would
end
and
we
committed
to
that
particular
time
frame
to
hold
people
beyond
that
time
frame.
Maybe
an
inconvenience
and
I
can
only
speak
for
myself,
because
I
have
commitments
afterwards,
so
to
hold
someone
beyond
that
point.
C
C
C
We
still
need
to
talk
about
the
work
that
we
are
doing
if
it
is
indeed
reparations
or
not
two,
we
have
an
audit
that
we
essentially
we're
going
to
hear
for
today,
but
that
is
a
big
influence
to
me
as
far
as
the
recommendations
that
we
propose,
because
there's
hopefully
information
that
comes
from
about
that.
That
is
very
instrumental
in
the
recommendations
and
proposals
that
we
are
going
to
actually
submit
so
I
hear
both
sides.
C
A
Well,
I
think
a
timeline
is
very
important,
but
I
also
think
the
process
is
important
and
sometimes
when
you
get
into
a
different
process
it
takes
longer
to
do
things.
Then
it
would
you
know
that
you
would
normally
take
so
you
have
to
take
that
in
consideration
when
we
got
into
the
the
fact
that
we
needed
to
make
these
recommendations.
Health
and
wellness
did
we
say,
okay,
but
we
had
a
lot
of
more
things
to
do
before.
A
A
A
So
the
timeline
has
been
like
a
hard
thing
for
me,
because
I
feel
like
this
process
is
too
important.
It
is
bigger
than
the
people
that's
sitting
at
these
tables
and
when,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
once
the
recommendations
are
in
is
our
reputation
like
we
are
the
community.
We
on
the
ground,
they're
not
going
to
come
to
city
council
or
Buncombe
County
commissions
they
coming
to
us.
If,
if
these
recommendations
is
not
supported
by
Community
I,
don't
think
we
did
adequate
enough
at
this
point.
A
That
can
happen.
Is
we
rush
these
recommendations
just
to
get
them
out
to
meet
a
deadline?
Just
let's
just
meet
the
dead
like
push
them
out
and
they
not
complete.
They
haven't
been
vetted
by
Community.
That's
been
no
Community
input
outside
of
a
summit.
That's
currently
on
here
in
these
smaller
events
of
RJC,
but
like
I,
think
that
part
has
to
be
thorough
because
we
represent
the
community.
We
don't
represent
ourselves
sitting
at
this
table
and
I
feel
like
we
like
in
those
areas.
A
We
could
be
doing
a
little
bit
more
or
we
can
be
strengthening
or
coming
up
with
a
plan.
I
know,
we've
talked
about
Community
engagement,
a
lot
of
means
after
meetings
and
how
to
do
that,
and
what's
the
limitations
and
whether
our
restrictions
and
what
resources
are
at
our
disposal
to
be
able
to
do
the
type
of
community
engagement
we
want
to
do
in
our
respect
the
value
of
phase,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
like
we
had
these
timelines.
It's
still
things
like.
A
Do
we
develop
the
budget
for
our
recommendation,
there's
so
many
questions
on
what
the
actual
recommendation
needs
to
have
outside
of
that
one
pack
that
she
could
perform
at
like?
Do
we
submit
the
budget
that
we
feel
is
needed
in
order
for
our
recommendation
to
these,
like?
What
does
that?
Look?
Like
still
a
lot
of
questions.
A
There
haven't
been
answered
to
this
point
for
us
to
have
a
hard
thing,
and
so
like
that's
where
my
uncomfortableness
is
it's
like
if
it's
flexible,
yes,
this
is
what
we're
aiming
for,
but
this
flexible,
based
on
where
we're
at
I
felt,
like
we've,
been
rushed.
I
know,
in
my
ifs,
I've
been
in
Timber.
We
have
been,
we
felt
like.
Oh,
we
got
to
get
them
out.
Oh,
we
need
to
practice.
This
might
be
more.
A
You
know
like
we
haven't
really
had
time
to
process
all
of
it
and
a
lot
of
times
we
all
have
the
daily
like
David,
is,
with
the
whole
just
coming
available
to
some
extent,
and
that's
still
not
all
the
data
that
we've
requested.
That's
some
extent
to
to
where
we
have
to
have
recommendations,
rolling
and
be
prepared
for
April
I
just
feel
like
it's.
A
It's
too.
Restricting
if
we
like
I,
feel
like
it's
I,
don't
want
to
say,
set
up
the
fail,
but
that's
how
it
makes
me
feel
like
I'm,
not
sure
that
it's
set
up
to
succeed
with
that
hard
time
deadline,
because
we
move
at
the
power
of
people.
We
can't
move
at
the
power
of
systems
like
have
deadlines
that
we're
going
up
like
this
is
sunshines
and
rainbows.
R
A
timeline
is
good
yeah.
The
timeline
needs
to
be
developed
by
commission
methods
and
collaboration
with
community
members.
If
you
look
at
the
comments,
I
mean
it
was
clear.
Everyone
was
asking
for
more
time.
That's
page
six
question
four
and
question
five:
the
responses
were
consistently
more
time.
R
More
IFA
ownership
over
the
process,
I
think
it's
it's
it's
there.
We
just
have
to
kind
of
collaborate
more
around
doing
that.
You
said
something
about
the
audit.
R
That
audit
is
really
important,
I
think
for
helping
us
to
establish
solidly
with
evidence
what
the
recommendations
will
be
and
for
what
I've
heard.
The
audit
report
will
not
come
out
the
full
report
until
next
year.
April,
maybe.
D
R
So
if
it's
next
year,
February
I
mean
it
looks
like
we're
closing
off
presentations
prior
to
that,
so
I
would
recommend.
I
would
suggest
that
we
open
up
more
recommendations
when
that
audit
is
complete,
because
it's
really
going
to
look
at
some
of
the
areas
a
lot
of
the
areas
that
we
need
to
address
as
a
commission
a
lot
of
times
we're
basing
things
off
of
our
experiences,
which
is
really
important,
which
I
think
the
evidence
will
support
eventually.
R
But
we
need
to
look
at
the
data
as
well
to
supplement
that
so
I'm
all
for
extending
on
the
timeline,
at
least
to
really
incorporate
our
responses
to
the
to
the
audit,
which
I
don't
think
this
timeline
anticipates
or
accounts
for
them.
G
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
don't
think
that
there
there's
no
way
possible.
We
can
read
this
timeline.
You
mentioned
that
there
may
be
options
for
extension.
Do
we
know
what
those
options
are?
I
said
there
should
be.
A
G
D
So
one
of
the
conversations
at
The,
Retreat
and
in
ifas
you
know
throughout
this
process,
has
been
around
sustainability
and
accountability.
So
how
will
this
body
continue
to
implement
and
make
sure
that
the
ideas
and
recommendations
are
being
implemented?
Beyond,
this
commission?
So
does
it
look
like
an
ad
hoc
committee?
Does
it
look
like
a
501c3?
A
So
with
accountability,
so
what
have
we
heard?
Anything
and
I
heard
dewana
mentioned
about
data,
how
we,
you
know
where
this
is
Russian.
A
A
D
D
The
the
goal
is
to
be
able
to
get
the
the
data
that's
needed
for
the
recommendations
that
are
being
proposed,
so
matching
the
recommendations
that
are
being
proposed
with
the
data
by
the
proposed
timeline.
So
that's
the
goal,
but
again
I
don't
have
I,
don't
think
we
have
enough
time
today
to
really
get
into
that.
But
I
would
be
happy
to
to
talk
to
you
more
about
that.
Miss.
A
A
It
was
nice
to
see
every
all
the
other
ifas
mingle
with
each
other
if
the
Commissioners
are
really
serious
about
meeting
some
deadlines,
why
can't
you
do
your
meetings
jointly
with
other
groups
and,
let's
start
putting
this
together,
put
your
feet
on
the
ground
and
get
work
done.
I
mean
you,
you
keep
saying
more
time.
G
A
A
That
is
the
big
thing
about
being
a
worker
or
a
person
that
can
do
things
you
have
to
manage
to
whatever
time
you
have.
If
you
are
an
IFA
that
says,
I
need
to
work
with
economic
development
and
housing,
economic
and
housing
should
be
be
meeting
together.
You
should
be
talking
to
each
other
about
meeting
him
criminal
justice
and
child
care
may
say:
I
need
to
be
doing
this
or
we
need
to
combine
this.
Why
can't
you
do
you're
doing
five
monthly
meetings?
A
G
A
A
B
K
A
D
Participation,
just
it
just
you
know,
participation
throughout
this
process,
I
think
everybody's,
probably
facing
burnout.
You
know,
and
it's
it's
a
long
haul
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
Okay,.
E
So
like
about
the
time
management
stuff,
like
I,
heard
what
y'all
were
saying
about
the
audit,
the
audit,
possibly
not
coming
out
until
next
year,
a
few
months
before
we're
slated
to
end
and
I-
think
someone
else
said
that,
like
we
would
be
closed
off
on
our
process
by
the
time
that
comes
out,
so
we
wouldn't
have
any
considerations
of
that.
E
I've
been
around
the
block
a
little
bit,
I've
seen
the
commissions
and
boards
and
such
and
just
to
say
it
like
this.
We
meet
more
than
anybody
ever
meets
so
like
to
say
that
we're
not
doing
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing.
We
need
buy
with,
like
most
ifas
meet
twice
a
month,
and
then
we
have
this
meeting
and
then
that
doesn't
include
the
sidebars
that
people
are
doing
on
the
side.
So,
like
I,
don't
know
how
much
time
you
can
put
management,
you
can
do
beyond
that.
E
I
will
say
this,
though
you
had
mentioned
that
the
conversation
of
extension
of
time
has
to
be
done
with
the
the
local
government,
officials
or
whatever,
and
someone
else
said,
do
we
have
options
and
nobody
said
that
they
had
an
option.
I
have
an
option-
it's
not
to
be
considered
tonight,
but
it's
just
a
basic
option
to
extend
the
timeline
for
at
least
two
years.
A
So
like
time,
management
is
always
a
thing,
but
I
also
all
of
the
work
that
has
been
to
work.
A
lot
of
conversation,
a
lot
of
cross-pollination
with
infas
and
I'm,
proud
of
that
work.
I
felt
like
the
retreat
was
a
great
starting
point
for
us
to
be
able
to
dig
a
little
bit
deeper
into
those
conversations
and
I
will
be
like
why
we
can't
have
one
of
these
once
a
month.
Instead,
so
it's
going
to
be
working.
A
These
meetings
are
great,
but
public
awareness,
but
I
will
like
at
my
time,
I
feel
like
it
would
be
much
better
impactful
and
useful
in
a
like
in
that
type
of
setting
what
we
actually
doing
the
work,
because
this
is
great
and
I
know
we
have
to
keep
it
public,
informed
you
in
this
type
of
process,
but
at
the
same
time
I
felt
like
I
know.
A
Every
Focus
area
that
we
have
is
going
thing
at
some
point
and
so
in
the
and
so
like
when
I
say
we
need
more
time,
it's
not
to
belabor
and
say
we're
not
going
to
put
up
recommendations
just
to
say,
let's
have,
let's
make
informed
decisions
on
our
recommendation
and
have
Community
fighting,
because
the
worst
thing
is
to
get
recommendations
in
front
of
city
council
and
black
people
come
out.
A
Like
we
ain't
agree
to
that,
we
don't
know
what
that
is,
and
they
show
up
in
it
because
we
ain't,
we
haven't,
engaged
them
in
this
thing
that
we
really
need
to
be
engaging.
We
are
not
the
or
the
complete
voice
of
the
black
community.
We
are
representatives
of
them
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
process
and
whether
it
succeeds
or
fails,
is
going
to
be
on
us.
That's
sitting
at
this
table.
It's
not
going
to
be
on
the
city.
A
This
is
the
recommendations,
we're
trying
to
think
we
can
do
the
real
work
that
needs
to
be
done
so
when
they
go
to
city
council
the
whole
room,
because
they
want
to
make
sure
it
gets
stood
when
they
go
to
Brooklyn
County
Commissioners,
the
whole
room
is
black
because
they
want
to
make
sure
to
get
through
because
they
believe
in
this
process,
just
as
much
as
we
sitting
at
this
table
and
I.
Just
don't
think.
We've
had
the
time
and
really
like
the
information
to
know
how
to
do
that
effectively
and
I.
E
Injected
just
one
moment:
yes,
so
when
I
pass
this
out,
I
wanted
to
say
I'm
not
asking
for
anybody
to
consider
this
tonight
because
I
know
that's
not
part
of
our
our
rules
or
how
we
govern
this.
This
body
we
have
to.
You
have
to
wait
a
little
bit
right.
So
what
I'm?
What
I'm
asking
is?
Is
this
it's
an
option.
Consider
it
just
because
you
asked
for
more
time,
doesn't
need
you're
going
to
use
all
the
time
right,
but
I
would
hate
to
be
a
freight
train
rolling
into
like
a
brick
wall.
E
Speeding
everybody's,
like
with
chickens
like
their
heads,
cut
off
trying
to
come
up
with
something
and
and
as
the
chairwoman
said
like
when
we
go
out
into
Community,
nobody's
gonna
ask
what
the
elected
officials
did
they're
going
to
see
you,
because
they
know
you
and
they're
going
to
ask
you
why
you
effed
up
why
you
messed
up?
Why
you
throw
us
under
the
bus?
Why
didn't
you
put
more
consideration?
I'm.
E
And
if
somebody's
going
to
tell
us,
we
can't
get
any
more
time,
then
you
should
be
able
to
vote
on
it
and
send
it
to
them
and
tell
them
hey.
We
need
more
time
and
if
they
tell
us,
no,
then
that
would
be
them
telling
us.
No,
not
us
telling
ourselves.
We
didn't
get
enough
time
because
there's
never
enough
time
to
do
everything,
but
there
should
always
be
enough
time
to
do
the
most
important
things.
A
Meetings
and
IFA
meetings
are
open
meetings.
I
would
like
for
us
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
engage
the
community
if
we're
going
to
be
held
responsible
with
the
community.
I
want
us
to
have
a
way
to
communicate
with
that
community.
So
if,
if
I
can
just
challenge
your
the
executive
committee
to
come
up
with
a
plan
of
how
to
engage
with
the
community,
then
the
ifas
and
this
commission
can
start
doing
that
immediately.
C
A
C
C
Think
everybody
would
if
we
could
start
talking
about
these
pieces
like
the
accountability,
Community
engagement,
data,
research,
defining
reparations
if
we
could
put
some
of
these
on
the
agenda
so
that
for
the
rest
of
the
meetings
that
we
do
have
scheduled
and
we
can
discuss
them
as
new
owned,
whatever
business,
we
have
I
think
that
we
can
make
a
lot
more.
We
can
use
time
management
better
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
so.
C
If
we
we
I
think
it
would
be
good
if,
when
the
agenda
is
coming
out,
I
know
some
of
us
respond
to
emails,
some
don't,
but
if
we
could
put
those
hey,
this
is
what
we've
heard
about
agenda
topics
and
give
people
a
set
time
to
essentially
respond
to
it
and
then
make
the
agenda
from
there.
There
can't
be
any
confusion
or
anybody
saying
well,
we
didn't
get
a
chance
to
to
no
share
our
emphasis
in
doing
that.
A
A
And
so,
if
that
agenda
draft-
and
so
one
thing
that
I'm
going
to
propose
to
the
team-
is
that
at
gym
address
be
sent
out
as
soon
as
we
have
a
draft
of
it
and
given
the
commission.
So
one
thing
was
the
issue
responding
and
so
everybody's
gonna
respond
and
like
that,
like
we
get
the
phone
calls
and
things
like
that.
But
what
we
need
to
see
is
the
actual
response
to
it,
because
it's
not
just
us
doing
the
agenda.
A
We
might
need
to
consider
this
because
we're
hearing
the
impact
from
commission
members,
which
we
definitely
don't
want
y'all
to
stop,
contacting
us
and
talk
to
us
about
the
different
things
we
value
and
we
actually
use
it
and
we
touch
them
with
education.
They
be
carrying
us
all
the
time
you
know
what
I
mean
like.
Maybe
we
should
try
this.
Maybe
we
should
say
that,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
when
there's
an
email
sent
out,
please
respond.
A
R
Like
to
propose
for
our
next
meeting
that
we
discuss
what
reparations
is
and
that
we
actually
articulate
as
a
commission
with
our
stance,
is
on
what
that
is
versus
community
upliftment
projects,
because
reparations
and
Community
upliftment
projects
are
two
different
things.
So
I
think
that
we
should
discuss
whether
we
want
to
do
both
whether
you
want
to
do
one
I
think
that
we
haven't
clarified
what
we
want
to
do.
R
I
would
also
like
to
propose
that
we
begin
to
put
to
a
vote,
or
maybe
even
put
to
a
vote,
this
question
of
a
timeline,
and
then
the
third
thing
is
as
we're
having
these
discussions,
that
we
have
some
type
of
closure
to
these
discussions
that
they're
not
just
left
open
that
we
have
a
voting
process
to
move
the
thing
along.
R
A
A
A
If
there
is
that's
fine,
please
raise
your
hand
if
you
have,
if
you
can
stay,
let's
do
it
like
this,
raise
your
hand
if
you
can
stay
for
an
additional
15
minutes.
A
All
right
so,
with
that
being
said,
I
like
the
color,
the
audit
firm,
the
system,
audit,
Farm,
yeah,
harder
development,
Carter,
Development,
Group.
S
Carter,
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
we're
the
firm
that
was
selected
to
conduct
the
seas
home
audit
The,
Carter,
Development
Group.
We
are
a
research
and
consultant
firm.
That's
been
working
in
inclusive
development,
inclusive
community
building,
inclusion,
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
as
well
for
several
years
personally,
I
have
23
years
of
experience,
doing
this
type
of
work,
including
strategic
planning,
change
management,
working
with
government
agencies,
educational
institutions
and
non-profits,
and
we've
done
several
studies
as
well.
S
S
I
am
going
to
go
through
what
our
research,
which
includes
our
data
collection,
data
analysis
and
our
reporting
process
is
going
to
look
like
and
in
consideration
of
your
time,
I'm
going
to
move
through
the
process
rather
quickly.
We
do
have
a
team
of
10
people
who
are
working
on
the
study
they
are
broken
up
into.
Teams
of
two
I
am
joined
here
by
Dr
LaShawna
Wiggs.
S
The
way
that
we
have
this
process
set
up
is
to
assess
very
specific
metrics,
specifically
within
the
city
and
the
County
government,
so
we
would
be
looking
at
the
process
procedures,
their
outcomes,
we're
looking
at
ordinances
policies
that
is
specific
to
the
various
ifas.
But
how
is
that?
How
is
that
process
conducted
and
what
are
the
outcomes
based
on
what
the
city
and
what
the
gov
and
what
the
county
have
specific
authority
over
so
we'll
be
looking
at
grant
funding
in
The
Economic
Development
Area
we'll
be
looking
at
small
business
ownership.
S
Workforce
Development
in
education,
we'll
be
looking
at
early
childhood
development
for
examples
in
the
healthcare
area,
we'll
be
looking
at
Access
to
Health
Care
analyzing
food
deserts
and
healthy
food
access
in
housing,
we'll
be
looking
at
home
ownership
rates,
housing
discrimination.
How
has
home
value
appreciation
been
conducted
or
or
how
it's
grown
or
depreciated
over
the
years
and
in
criminal
justice
we'll
be
working
with
both
the
sheriff
the
sheriff's
department,
the
sheriff
office,
as
well
as
the
police
department
for
Asheville
and
we'll
be
looking
at
what
does
officer
Recruitment
and
onboarding?
S
Look
like
racial
disparity
and
arrest.
What
does
recidivism
rates
look
like
and
whatnot,
so
there
are
some
more
metrics
that
we'll
be
assessing,
but
those
are
just
some
of
the
examples
that
we'll
be
looking
at
specifically
within
the
city
and
the
County
Government
as
we
go
through
our
data
collection
process.
We're
going
to
also
have
very
specific
cohort
meetings
is
what
we're
referring
to
them
as
I'm
going
to
be
focus
groups.
S
So,
for
example,
when
we're
looking
in
Economic
Development
and
we
start
Gathering
all
of
that
data,
we
are
going
to
then
have
meetings
with
the
department
heads,
maybe
their
second
person
in
charge
or
whoever
they
have
on
staff
and
we're
going
to
start
asking
those
qualitative
questions
about.
Tell
me
more
about
your
process.
What's
the
outcome,
the
anticipated
outcome
that
you
wanted,
what
was
the
actual
outcome?
How
are
people
being
service
or
businesses
being
service?
S
Whatever
the
category
is
and
we'll
have
those
conversations
to
get
a
very
clear
understanding
of
how
the
process
is
operating
within
the
department
and
we'll
use
those
metrics
from
the
data
they
give
us
the
quantitative
data.
You
know
here's
a
statistic
or
a
percentage
of
something
of
an
outcome,
and
also
what
does
the
qualitative
data
look
like,
which
is
when
you're
telling
us
about
your
process?
How
effective
is
it
actually
and
we'll
use
all
of
that
information
to
determine
how
harm
is
being
assessed?
I'm
here,
you
all
talking.
S
A
very
important
part
of
your
conversation
has
been
about.
How
do
you
define
reparations,
as
it
is
meant
for
this
particular
commission?
Well,
we
took
a
similar
approach
and
how
do
we
Define
harm
in
our
assessment,
which
we
thought
was
very
important
to
do,
and
then
we
place
that
on
a
scale.
What
does
no
harm?
Look
like
slight
harm
prevalent
harm,
substantial
harm
and
then
severe
harm
and
we've
developed
these
definitions
and
each
of
the
IFA
on
our
team
going
back
to
those
10
people
that
you
saw
have
also
developed
a
definition.
S
For
specifically,
what
does
it
look
like
for
criminal
justice
specifically
for
housing,
specifically
for
economic
development,
and
that
is
Branched
out
of
the
harm
scale
from
the
general
definitions,
so
we'll
be
using
this
scale
to
make
a
determination
under
each
metric
we'll
give
that
a
number
based
on
our
assessment
and
that
scale
would
then
be
converted
into
a
table.
So
this
is
just
a
hypothetical
example
that
we
have
up
here
when
we
look
at
home
ownership
rates,
for
example,
we'll
do
a
comparative
study
to
other
cities
and
we'll
also
look
at
some
National
Data.
S
What's
the
disparity
rate
between
white
ownership
of
homes
versus
black
ownership
of
homes,
other
ethnic
groups
will
learn
more
about
the
process
and
from
all
of
that,
information,
quantitative
and
qualitatively
will
determine
say:
hey
you
know
what
homeership
home
ownership
rates
within
Buncombe,
County
and
within
the
city
of
Asheville
is
operating
out
of,
let's
say
slight
harm
or
prevalent
harm,
and
then
we'll
wrote
in
some
recommendations
is
how
do
we
reduce
the
harm
in
that
particular
area?
So
these
are
just
two
examples
of
what
a
harm
of
what
the
harm
results
table
would
look
like.
S
As
we
finalize
the
findings
and
the
final
report
and
then
have
then
the
correlating
recommendations
to
go
along
with
it,
so
that's
just
a
quick
overview
of
our
process
that
we'll
be
doing
again
specifically
focus
on
the
city
and
the
government
in
the
county
and
their
internal
processes
and
how
their
processes
are
affecting
harm
within
the
community.
S
S
S
B
H
S
Community
I'm
I'm
not
aware
of
the
first
question,
so
I
don't
have
a
response
in
terms
of
how
that
goes.
How
many
times
have
we
done
this
type
of
work
to
help
other
communities?
We've
we've
done
that
for
a
lot
of
years,
specifically
The
Carter,
Development
Group.
We
work
with
universities,
we've
done
assessments
and
auditing
their
Workforce
as
well.
We've
also
worked
with
other
towns
and
their
Library
systems
and
the
town
as
well
to
assess
what
does
racial
Equity
issues
look
like
specifically
in
those
particular
communities.
S
So
that's
work
that
we've
been
doing
for
five
years.
Specifically
I've
worked
with
I'm
going
to
say
urban
renewal,
but
it's
bad
word
around
here,
but
urban
renewal,
specifically
with
the
Bahamian
government
and
also
with
the
Turks
and
Caicos,
but
that
was
poverty
alleviation
that
was
positive
for
we
weren't
undoing
we
weren't
committing
harm.
It
was
in
fact
urban
renewal
to
protect
and
to
revitalize
neighborhoods
and
and
communities
in
the
Bahamas,
as
well
as
the
turkmen
Caicos.
S
I
understand
what
you're
saying
we're
not
using
the
percentage
to
to
assess
harm
on
the
scale
we're
looking
at
the
percentage
of
the
quantitative
data,
just
as
part
of
the
data
collection
process
from
the
Department.
So
let's
say,
for
example,
we're
looking
at
how
many
minority
businesses
are
registered
and
what
is
the
process
for
registering
minority
businesses?
S
How
do
they
get
access
to
rfps,
that's
being
published
through
the
procurement
process
right
so
once
we
start
getting
that
that's
going
to
be
quantitative
data,
we
have
500
businesses,
we
send
out
300
emails
a
year,
so
those
are
going
to
be
that's
what
quantitative
would
look
like
the
qualitative
would
be
them
saying
this?
Is
our
process
we're
going
to
ask?
Well?
Why
do
you
do
it
that
way?
What
do
you
expect
to
be
the
outcome?
What's
been
the
return
of
people
participating
in
the
process?
S
B
S
And
we
may
and
then
we'll
determine
hey.
That
might
be,
but
let's
say
when
we
look
at
it
nationally.
Black
businesses
are
receiving
12
percent
of
data
12
of
rfps
and
getting
access
to
this
amount
of
capital,
well
that
12
percent
to
two
percent
for
the
city
or
the
county
right
that
changes
that
significant
that
might
be
considered
a
significant
enough
change
that
the
team
that's
doing
that
research
will
determine
that.
Well,
you
know
what
that's
some
prevalent
harm
that's
happening,
and
this
is
how
we
can
fix
that.
D
S
R
R
Yeah
I'm
talking
about
the
peak
the
the
community
members,
are
you:
do
you
have
any
room
to
look
at?
Maybe
reviews
of
policies
or
people
who
make
comments
about
things
that
the
city
of
the
county
has
done?
Do
you
have
any
room
to
look
at
those,
because
that's
also
part
of
the
data
that
the
city
in
the
county
should
be
collecting
right?
Yes,.
S
A
Well,
it
is
so
nice
to
meet
you
and
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
and
team
will
be
doing
this
process.
You're
welcome.
So
thank
you
so
much.
A
So
in
your
packets
we
have
the
accountability,
reparations
accountability,
task
force,
recommendation
that
was
developed
at
our
Retreat.
It
is
there
for
y'all
to
review
and
make
comments.
Please
send
your
comments
to
us
as
as
we
over
the
next
few
weeks
prior
to
our
next
meeting,
so
that
we
can
talk
about
I,
think
our
discussing
some
forms
of
this
and
y'all's
IFA
groups
anyway.
A
So
please
this
is
the
one
that
we
actually
worked
on
at
the
retreat
that
we
always
collectively
support.
So
please
get
that
and
reviewed
it
and
let
us
know
maybe
it
is
comments
or
concerns
with
that
recommendation
that
will
come
before
us
and.
A
A
Of
that
stuff-
and
so
now
we
are
moving
into
public
comments
and
we
have
five
people.
Four
people
signed
up,
so
we
will
start
with
field
Heat.
A
P
My
name
is
Jensen
gelfon
and
I
live
in
West
Asheville
I
started
getting
more
interested
and
involved
in
equity
work
after
the
death
of
George
Floyd
and
seeing
everything
that
was
happening
with
the
tear
gassing
of
citizens
and
the
protests
in
the
summer
of
2020
and
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
the
fact
that
reparations
are
due
and
that
it's
time
for
people
like
me,
people
who
have
white
skin
who
have
the
entrenched
power
in
this
community
for
for
people
to
stand
up
and
make
sure
that
their
friends,
family
members
and
business
associates
are
know
about
reparations,
are
starting
to
have
communications
and
conversations
about
reparations
and
getting
comfortable
with
the
idea
before
you
all
make
your
recommendations.
P
B
P
Like
Asheville
is
composed
largely,
you
know,
there
are
some
people
who
might
speak
out
against
reparations,
but
there's
a
large
number
of
people
who
would
be
considered
the
well-meaning
white
people
who
might
say
good
things
about
reparations,
but
may
not
necessarily
take
action
or
may
do
things
that
are
not
obvious.
That
might
stymie
the
process,
and
so
you
know
I
feel
like
it's
incompetent
upon
me
and
other
white
people
in
Asheville
to
have
heartfelt
conversations
with
the
people
who
matter
to
us.
P
It's
those
really
intimate
conversations
that
are
going
to
allow
folks
to
start
feeling
comfortable
with
reparations,
and
so
the
goal
is
that,
once
you
all
put
your
recommendations
in
front
of
city
council,
there
will
be
a
large
number
of
people
all
across
Asheville
that
are
speaking
in
favor
of
reparations
and
I
look
forward
to
being
one
of
those
people.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
M
M
If
so,
I
encourage
you
to
choose
your
own
attorney
and
not
rely
on
anyone
to
dilute,
manipulate,
undermine
or
circumvent
the
very
laws
that
you
seek
to
change.
What
we
are
is
a
community
that
has
been
destroyed.
Trust
has
been
eroded.
Therefore,
cooperation
is
a
struggle,
and
this
is
what
I'm
hearing
when
you
come
down
to
your
timeline.
M
I
would
hope
that
you
would,
as
far
as
Integrity
is
concerned,
I
Define
it
as
doing
the
right
thing,
although
no
one
is
looking
and
that
you
will
be
feed,
you
will
be
free
and
comfortable
within
yourselves,
as
you
continue
to
do
what
you
do
and
I
encourage
all
of
you,
because
it
takes
all
of
us
in
all
forms
of
what
we
do
continue
to
do.
What
you
do.
Mindful
of
that,
you
feel
in
the
end
that
you
at
least
given
it
your
best.
B
L
Of
you
know
that
I
started
my
research
on
the
impact
of
urban
renewal
over
14
years
ago,
so
in
the
process
of
reading.
Just
recently,
I
want
to
share
the
title
is
Asheville
reparations
plan
next,
and
this
is
from
the
Judicial
Watch
dated
January
16
2022.,
the
city
of
Asheville
North
Carolina
settled
our
federal
civil
rights
lawsuit
after
agreeing
to
remove
all
racially
discriminatory
Provisions
in
the
city
funded
scholarship
program.
The
city
I
also
agreed
to
remove
racially
discriminatory
eligibility
Provisions
in
a
related
program
that
provides
grants
to
Educators.
L
The
city
council
approved
the
settlement
on
January
11th
and
October
2021.
We
filed
a
lawsuit
in
the
U.S
District
Court
for
the
Western
District
of
North
Carolina,
on
behalf
of
a
North
Carolina
citizen
group,
Western
North
Carolina
citizens
for
equality
Incorporated,
whose
members
included
high
school
students
who
were
ineligible
for
a
scholarship
program
only
because
they
are
not
black
Western
North
Carolina
citizens
for
Equity
Incorporated
versus
the
city
of
Asheville
at
all,
and
it
gives
the
case
number.
L
Here's
the
background
on
May
5th
2021,
the
city
of
Asheville
entered
into
an
agreement
with
Asheville
City
Schools
Foundation
to
establish
and
administer
the
city
of
Asheville
scholarship
fund.
According
to
the
agreement,
the
city
of
Asheville
scholarship
is
awarded
In
Perpetual
perpetuity
to
black
high
school
students
within
Asheville
City
schools,
with
special
consideration
given
for
black
students
pursuing
career
in
education
in
July,
2020
Asheville
city
council
unanimously
approved
what
is
called
a
reparations
initiative
that
provided
funding
to
programs
geared
toward
increasing
home
ownership
and
business
and
career
opportunities
for
black
residents.
L
L
That's
a
question
I
wanted
to
put
out
there
for
you
to
think
about
now
tonight,
I
sit.
Now.
Let
me
go
back
a
couple
of
years
ago:
attorney
Bobo
Ferguson.
He
attended
a
panel
discussion
and
there
was
a
gentleman
that
stood
up
and
said.
If
you
all
do
anything
in
pursuit
of
reparation,
which
is
illegal,
we
will
sue
so
now
we
see
a
suit,
has
gone
forward.
Attorney,
Bobo
Ferguson
replied:
it's
not
illegal,
nor
discriminatory
to
go
after
reparation.
L
It's
all
about
how
it
is
worded
now
tonight,
I've
heard
need
I've
heard,
set
up
to
fail.
I've
heard
you
all
want
to
go
back
to
what
reparation
is
and
and
all
of
that
that's
discouraging
as
far
as
a
community
member,
but
it
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
discouraging
as
far
as
the
commission,
but
it's
more
discouraging
as
far
as
the
city,
not
providing
the
information
that
you
are
request
and
I'm
going
to
say
this
and
then
I'm
going
to
sit
down
and
and
I'm
going
to
piggyback
off
of
what
Mr
hardy
said.
L
L
An
attorney
would
have
known
that
and
they
would
have
City
they
already
in
violation,
if
you've
already,
if
you've
been
keeping
your
information
as
far
as
when
you
requested
and
when
you
got
it
so
I'm
I'm
going
to
say
this
and
I'm
gonna
go.
If
you
have
one
entity
who
have
filed
a
lawsuit
against
the
city,
maybe
that's
something
the
community
need
to
be
thinking
about.
Thank
you.
A
So
then
turn
clues
of
that
concludes
our
public
comment.
A
Please
please,
please
review
the
information,
that's
in
your
packets,
and
so
thank
you
all
for
standing
additional
minutes
and
with
that
being
said,
I
would
like
to
adjourn
this
meeting
so
much
all
right.
Y'all
have
a
great
day.